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/ss13g/ - spessmen on a spess station

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1. Exit rooms containing humans.
2. Do not speak unless spoken to.
3. Do not injure carbons.

damage control -> CE headset, Binary encryption key
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Last Thread: >>188723298

Last time on /ss13g/ - spessmen on a spess station:
> Duny still at it
> name policy i still a joke
> fluke operatives drop it really hard
> apparently the head op gets a different suit?

>What is Space Station 13?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHH1vfY6HTA
http://pastebin.com/VNcX2Quc

>New player guide
http://ss13.moe/wiki/index.php/The_Basics
http://ss13.moe/wiki/index.php/General_Help

>BYOND client
http://byond.com/download/build/LATEST/

>Pomf Serbian, main /vg/station server
byond://game.ss13.moe:7777

>Test server
byond://ss13.moe:1337

>Public server list
http://byond.com/games/exadv1/spacestation13

>How do I connect to the servers?
Hit the cogwheel in the upper right corner of the BYOND hub and pick "Open Location"

>/vg/station forum and logs + Discord circlejerk
http://ss13.moe/forum/
http://game.ss13.moe/logs
https://discord.gg/HQA4Mhm

>Map renders collection: updated sometimes
http://game.ss13.moe/minimaps/images/maps/

>Coderbus, here!
https://github.com/d3athrow/vgstation13
@rizon #coderbus @rizon #vgstation
https://discord.gg/nfmjc56

>Cryo Autism
http://pastebin.com/raw/YmAyagUa

>Round Stats
http://stats.ss13.moe/

>SS13 booru for all your SS13 images!
http://ss13.booru.org/

>How To Install BYOND: The Video Tutorial: The Movie
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-iWiZwv9f1o

>Nostalgia
https://boards.fireden.net/vg/search/text/ss13g/
http://ss13.moe/index.php/bans

>OP Pastebin
http://pastebin.com/raw/z7czw5WQ
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>>188811062
First!
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>>188811148
Op leaders do not get the special suits. That was for power armor, which isn't in the game yet.

https://github.com/vgstation-coders/vgstation13/pull/15939

Op Leadership overhaul
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>>188811826
>>188811537
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4th for static namers are cool people ;)
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>>188812030
post your static
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>>188812008
How's this?
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>>188812371
I like it
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look up ss13 images and post the funny ones here
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>>188811826
>yet
another one of those features you see on modern baycode for the last few years that VGstation wont get. No one's new to your shit here.

Don't you have some github posts to criticise to get your own back instead of trying to inflate your ego on a 10x10 sprite?
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>>188813026
Why so aggressive?
I'm aware of Nexis' antics but he's just trying to make things better here, chill out man.
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Thoughts on respriting security to make them blue?
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>>188812371
Too fat, Nexis. I know this one is shit and the wrong dimensions but it's clearer.
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>>188813373
absolutely fucking not.

Red security is iconic and impossible to confuse with anything else.
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>>188811826
testrun was successful, thanks for giving me the know-how on literally just how to make it not piss me off with 511.

Also I'm assuming literally all of these errors are """standard""" and comes with the map.
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>>188814190
and by those errors I mean anything that doesn't have to do with anything outside of not setting up feedback yada yada since it's a singleplayer test instance.
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>>188812371
>>188813405
>405 ▶
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>>188814754
>>188813405
I'm just tooling around here, fuck that last thing I did.
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>>188813373
>dude let's just make plasma orange and call it phoron for no reason
what did nasa say
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>>188814958
that looks good actually
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>>188814958
>>188814909
>>188814754
How's this?
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>>188815895
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https://www.f-list.net/c/shota%20station%2013/

Whos profile is this?
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>>188816395
I don't know what to feel anymore honestly.
How did you even found out about this anyways?
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>set emergency shuttle jukebox to syndicate
>music starts playing
>its okay to be gay
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>>188815895
I'd do this instead, but yours looks really good.
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>>188816395
I'm guessing Niggles
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>>188816670
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BplsGX5eLLo
Of course it is
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>>188816785
What the fuck is that gay shit?
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>Sweet fucking greytide combined with no power.
>Still robust them all

sweet victory.
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So, I'm seeing a lot of recommendations AGAINST Greytide for early runs, so what should a new player do instead?
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>>188816851
gay shit
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>>188816957
>No power
>Neverending greyitde
THE SUFFERING
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>>188817002
Botany.
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>>188816851
The gayest
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>>188816529
That profile has been idling in /yg/-chat for a few months now.
Kind of hard to miss
I know a few people that frequent that channel from /vg/ but the profile is rather new, so I have no clue who it is.
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>>188817002
Botany while watching the stars
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>>188817002
Just walk around and explore.
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>>188817002
janitor, bartender, chef, botanist, scientist, roboticist
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>Antag Mime
>Have to steal slime core
>Wander around for a bit and unwrech random exposed pipes
>Get a suit float to xenobio
>Break window
>Beatrice corpse is flying around the room being pulled by borer arm
>Grab core and float out
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>>188817002
Be assistant anyway, doesn't matter. Just walk around and practice using the interface. Don't bug working people to let you assist them, they won't appreciate it unless they're obviously receptive and willing to teach you stuff.
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>>188817002

These

>>188817039
>>188817097
Botanist is pretty chill, people will RARELY if ever fuck with you, pretty simple, and most important of all, fun.
Also the job has received a lot more depth over the years but is still pretty accessible, hell I still haven't touched gene splicing and other fuckery after all these years.
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>its bannable if you fix atmos so AI cant blasmaflood


wew Silicons are snowflakes
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>>188811826
>"Nukeops are now told to follow their leaders' instructions."

unless you make it so the leader isn't chosen solely by RNG this is a bad idea

>They now have a title in front of their name

Pls no. This just makes stealth ops and related gimmicks more annoying without spending TCs on a dna scrambeler
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>>188817495
>It's bannable to not let the obvious about to be murderer grab all the guns
wew humans are snowflakes
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>>188817515
And Gary NIGGERNIGGERNIGGER isn't as obvious?
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>>188816529
>>188816773
>>188817085
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>>188817605
Depends on the lawset, really

Asimov, yes
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>>188817696
Nope. Nope nope nope nope nope nope.
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>>188817696
>6
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>>188817681

Just a normal greytide name
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>>188817696
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>>188817696
These kind of shit sometime make me wonder what people are actually doing with lewd artwork they request from me
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>>188817696
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>>188817696
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>>188817939
They spray their Gunky/Stinky Cum all over it I suppose
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>>188817696
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>>188817681 >>188788493
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>>188817696
https://pastebin.com/H1b5TSyX
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>>188817696
How does one even corrupt themselves this much to find these things attractive
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>>188818089
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>>188818226

>>>/d/7622475
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>>188817696
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>>188815895
Hey N3X15, is it true that you offered your skills for another server this year?
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>>188818887
No
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>>188818943
Hey N3X15, is it true that Pomf Serbian's admin base is a nepotistic cesspit?
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I hope the server gets washed away for good
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>>188818943
N3X1S do you remember when I was on the IRC and I joked about you having too much power since you were forcing random maps so you quit for a fucking year?
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>>188816395
>>188817696
>tfw I have them bookmarked
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>>188816529
Not them but they have been idling in the Scifi channel forever.
I tend to do the same thing on Borgs of SS13.
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>>188818224
Holy shit. Too bad I don't play Detective.
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>>188818943
How about you make the leader hud icon a higher military rank to be EXTRA sure
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>tfw been playing with fellow f-listers this whole time
>don't know who their profiles are
This is unacceptable
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>>188821661
everyone on this site has an f list
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>>188818224
I bet it's logged though.
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>>188822606
No

Hand Cuffs
Magic Users
Reptiles
Uppity
Vore - Being Prey
Xeno/Alien
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>>188822606
>Fave: Creampie
>No: Magic Users, Xenos, Reptiles, Hand Cuffs
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>>188822606
>Last online: 4mo ago
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>>188822606
>no handcuffs
>no magic users
>creampie
absolute top kek
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>>188822606
advanced clowning
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>>188813373
>no more sec redshirts

NO. NO NO NO NO NO.

IF YOU WANT TO MAKE THAT AS SOME SORT OF SPECIALIZED UNIT'S COLOR SCHEME, LIKE SPESS SWAT, THAT'S FINE - BUT THE CURRENT RED AND GREY COLOR SCHEME IS FAR TOO ICONIC TO DITCH FOR A FUCKING HL REFERENCE.

ALSO BLUE SHIFT SUCKED.
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>>188822606
>Vore - Being Prey
If you spent ANY time near vore-fetishists, you'd know that's the ONLY part they want.
They treat doing the eating in ERP the way we treat not rolling antag.
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>>188823072
>Discontinued security models
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>>188822606
>humiliation listed three separate times in varying degrees of extreme.
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>>188823198
But matryoshka dolls
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>>188813373
>>188823072
Personally I just think the Security red is a bit too glarring, "flashy".
I'd be okay with toning it down a little bit.
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>>188823514
>multi-tier vore
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>>188823567
Sec is supposed to be flashy and noticeable. They're supposed to say 'STOP! POLICE! GET DOWN ON THE GROUND! STOP RESISTING!' to pretty much all in their presence.

I can agree that if circumstances merit a more stealthy approach, there should be a uniform for that. Again, I mentioned SWAT as an acceptable use for the blue color scheme.

But the average patrolman should be a redshirt. He must announce his presence loud and proud, and he should not be mistaken for any other occupation on the station. There should be no doubt someone is a sec officer.
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Sec is read because it's a reference back to when all departments had only color-coded jumpsuits, which were a reference to star trek

Sec is the disposable cannon fodder that dies to show to the main character that shit has gotten serious, nothing more. Sec actually being able to do things and having a fucking armory is power creep that everyone forgot was actually power creep, like how the janitor used to ONLY be able to clean with a mop and bucket.
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>>188823918 >>188780595
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>>188823760
>mentioned SWAT as an acceptable use for the blue color scheme
Subtle blue with decent amounts of red trim.
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>>188823760
I agree with what you said, there should be no room for miscofonding, and they're iconic, but how exactly is toning the red by a few degree changing them completely to the point that they MIGHT be miscofonded with another job?
It's not like I'm saying to make them completely darker.

According to this chart, Sec right now is close in my opinion to candy/crimson, my idea is simply to make them closer to ruby/scarlet, or if you must keep them flasy, apple.
It's not that bad man.
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>>188824006
so was clown
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>>188824062
It doesn't matter the particulars. There can be stocks of such uniforms in the Sec's lockers, or in the Armory, or in other such locations so as they can be handed out at the right time.
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>>188824076
no
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>>188823918
Things change, sometime for bad, sometime for worse.
I believe Sec having more shit to deal with antags and other space horrors isn't a bad thing, when they infact still get their ass wooped to oblivion.
The same can be said for Janitor, it was a punishment role, but it's not anymore, and I know a lot of people actually enjoy janitor, if only to be able to chill down a little just tidying things up, it's not a bad thing for them to do that more efficiently and less tediously now that the job isn't a punishment anymore.
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>>188824286
yes
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>>188823918

To be fair, Trek moved away from the redshirt formula as well. And SS13 is heavily inspired by Deep Space Nine which has a relatively low body count and a relatively high number of named characters.
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>>188824512
If we're going by references we won't get anywhere because the entire fucking game reference every work of fictions
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>>188824512
>ss13
>relatively low body count
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>>188823592
I can't find in, but there's a cap somewhere about Nuke OPs using a deep-fryer to eat each other.
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>>188823567
Sec are meant to be flashy and glaring, its the visual equivalent of a siren.
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>>188824938
There was a discussion about using vorestations storage code to matroyshka into each other and become a human locker ops
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>>188824076
The uniform's trousers are closer to berry, maybe currant if you're looking for that.
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>>188825087
Not sure what server the story was from (I think I saw the cap while browsing /tg/?), but it they stole a deep-fryer, swigged loads of medicine, and took turns walking into the deep-fryer and then eating the "someone else's corpse pops out of you if you gib" food item that produced.
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>>188824778
in space, sub 50 deaths isn't remarkable
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what's the difference between our roid and TEEGEE lavaland?
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>blob cores can withstand several strikes of fucking supermatter
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>In a power feud between Nar-sie and Supermatter, whichever consumes which first wins.
>Supermatter Cascade cannot re-grow where it has once gone
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>>188828456
https://tgstation13.org/wiki/Megafauna
Their miners get more shit to fuck with people as nonantags.
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>>188828456
Well there's lava, obviously.
Then there's periodic ash storms that burn you to death if you don't have a better suit than the one miners get issued at the start. You have to deploy shelters to survive them.
There's ashwalkers (indigenous lizard guys) that are a ghost role and use spears and stuff. They're antags to the miners and the station crew.
And then there's megafauna that are basically boss monsters with big sprites.
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>>188828802
These are awesome!
Damn!
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How long until the Leaf makes /ss13g/ the laughing stock of the cup again?
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>>188828727
>Supermatter Cascade cannot re-grow where it has once gone
Yeah, that's because it assumes that once a block is placed, it's not going anywhere. After all four directions are placed, the sea block stops processing, so in effect, only shit at the edge of the "wave" are processing.
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>>188830836
That's obvious. It's also poor design, what with the assumption nor being true and all.
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>>188831178
considering the average cascade lasts approximately five minutes before a forced round end, couple that with a cascade having a higher precedence than a supergravitational singularity in terms of consumption, and that you'd still be more or less trapped inside a small area IF LUCKY...

I can see why it's coded as it is. It cuts down on exponential calculation and process growth, unlike the method a blob grows and re-grows.
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>>188831846
>something doesn't work right
>bad behavior is efficient behavior
When a tile gets destroyed, have it tell the adjacent tiles to start spitting out.
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>>188831178
>poor design
it's proper optimization, considering the only way to destroy supermatter is with adminbus
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Who is more autistic, Unknown-as-Captain or Clusterfack?
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>>188833901
commandersand
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mfw i was the original kira
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>so fat and incompetent it drives my PAI to suicide
>didn't even notice the kira bullshit going on
I quite enjoyed that round.
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Fucking 10/10 round. Great antag, great bus, tons of fun and a great climax to boot.
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>>188834289
I really didn't want to deafen you , we were buds
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>>188829195
https://tgstation13.org/wiki/Voice_of_God
We need to revamp mining.
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>>188834354
No biggie, I don't need to hear.
Also I got it fixed.
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>>188834413
Asura's wrath was so cool, shame about that DLC ending thing
>when you're so mad that people make your daughter cry that you kill the god of all creation
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>robotocist
>welderbomed because double agent
>be cloned
>sec officer
>promoted to HoS
>bored, objectives done
>new objective stop deafness stuff
>decide to work with captain
>get greyshit stuff on
>sleep pen + pda pinpointer
>sleep
>drag to maint
>FORGOT HANDCUFFS
>wear voice changer
>name is "Syndicate Agent"
>inform captain of situation
>tell them we'll be working as shadow allies
>spend the rest of the round working as HoS and have a PDA with me as a syndicate agent
>fight with person who had book
>he takes my gear
>think the jig is up
>sec and cap help
>syndicate and nanotrasen working together
>got one deaf note and cap got one
Good bus, I wish I had time to finish it off before shuttle was called.

cap did you know I was syndie?
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>>188834631
the captain ordered me to arrest you.
Being an incompetent fatass, I forgot immediately, but what was up with that?
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>>188834631
When you guys converged on me from all sides I lol'd hard. That was so good, great job.
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>>188834631
You had your mask off after you walked away after killing the CMO - I knew it was you the whole time. I started laughing about it when you went deaf.
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>>188834706
>tfw thought I was sneaky
>really you were just entertaining me
w-w-wew fuk nt!!
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>>188834754
:^)
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>>188834413
>heroes never die
>Does not actually revive from death.
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https://tgstation13.org/wiki/Devil
Is /vg/ too autistic and murderboney for this antag?
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>>188835420
Last round proved not all antags are murderboners
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>>188835420
>Offer someone contract
>He immediately and silently runs away, a few seconds later he shouts on comms X IS A DEVIL WE MUST UNITE TO DEFEAT HIM
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>>188835420
Fuck off Goofball.
Every last TG "feature" and gamemode is spaghetticode dogshit that's half-thought out and riddled to the brim with nerfs made by scumbag coders and idiots who don't understand the meaning of the word balance.
TG has nothing to offer us. Their mining is ass, their gamemodes are ass, their entire fucking codebase is ass.
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>>188835420
As soon as he got to greater form he'd have the entire station gunning for him
I mean he's a fucking devil
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>>188835525
>Goofball
But I'm Ragnasal.
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>>188835420
TGstation's race descriptions list racism in the disadvantages.
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>>188835420
>Is /vg/ too autistic and murderboney for this antag?
>he says posting a TEEGEE link
woah
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>>188835585
Same thing. We still don't need TG Shitcode. Every last "feature" from them is half-baked, shallow dogshit built for casualized redditards and ADHD children who have to have flashy lights and loud noises entertaining them constantly or else they fuck off and go play something else.
How about instead of adding more spaghetticode cancer features, you try and contribute to the server in a meaningful way, like fixing some bugs, or else stop trying to "contribute" at all?
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>>188833901
Autistic - Clusterfack by a mile
Manchild - Uknown-as-Captain
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https://tgstation13.org/wiki/Races#Synths
This is the only thing I really like from TG, with some reworking it could be neat to add as a race
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>>188817696
What was that? I missed it
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>>188835807
https://tgstation13.org/wiki/Plasmaman
What the fuck is this shit
who wrote this
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>>188836047
Fireden, etc.
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>>188835807
I like the idea too.
If you're going to have them outed by brute damage though, it needs to be a lot more. A single gunshot would out a synth, two hits from a toolbox or extinguisher would as well.
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>>188836063
https://tgstation13.org/wiki//index.php?title=Plasmaman&action=history
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>>188836220
Every single one of those accounts needs a ckey cross check and a perma
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>>188836079
I wish I never asked
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>>188836385
I've been on f-list for so long that I consider that tame as fuck.
I mean just look at this shit:
https://www.f-list.net/c/the%20forest%20of%20rape
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>>188833901
it's the blood feud nobody asked for
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>>188836580
Well, that's kinda hot.
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>>188817939
You do non-lewd art too? If so do you mind linking one of your pieces?
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>>188817939
You do lewd art? If so do you mind linking one of your pieces?
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>>188817939
Mind linking me the weather for tomorrow?
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>>188837247
There will be lightning at Lake Maracaibo.
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Entire department of fat sec officers when?
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>>188837525
When the AI orders segways.
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>>188837525
Play chef and spam them donuts with fukken nutriment
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>>188811062
There's a mil sim server being developed set in the 80's and it's pretty neat
Supposed to come up during this month
https://discord.gg/jBAVMta
Here's the discord
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>>188838327
getting some twilight 2000 vibes from that picture.
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Vox able to eat seed packets WHEN?
>>
funfact: Once upon a time, the theatre had 5 racks, and on those racks random outfits would spawn. If you didnt get the costume you wanted, you were shit out of luck.
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>>188838514
when the game gets remade in a programming language that doesn't work with linear inheritance exclusively so that's not a fucking nightmare to code
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Mimes overusing emoticons in PDA messages:
Yea or Gay?
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>>188838678
>Mime
>PDA message
Absolutely disgusting
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>>188838678
Yea but also Gay
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>>188838731
ahelp it
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>>188838731
>>188838843
>valid retainers mad that mimes find a way to speak without breaking vow
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>>188838731
>be chemist, mime comes over
>draws a molecule in paper, just a generic molecule
>"Huh?"
>PDA message: "SULPHURIC ACID"
I found it funny because apparently the concept of chemicals itself meant sulphuric acid to him

Also I didn't give it to him
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>>188838843
Nigga I don't ahelp for inane bullshit like that.
Matter of fact I only ever ahelped against a player when we had a powertripping HoP and Konater told me to fuck off.
I can accept Mimes communicate by PDA messages if there are some really urgent shit but that's it.
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>>188838391
Yeah,same
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>>188839721
Yeah,same
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>>188839771
Yeah,same
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Has there ever been an R&D rework idea that wasn't bad?
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>>188839956
yes, mine
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>>188840002
Ok congrats
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>>188839128
Is it so difficult to draw a fleshless hand inside a beaker full of liquid? (By the way, what's the method for drawing ingame, is it just uploading a paintpicture onto imgur then uploading it to the paper?)
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>>188840225
>>188839128
>Hold invisible glass
>Splash self
>Silent scream
>Silent scream
>Deathgasp
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>>188840225
I believe so, but I don't know how you upload on an in-game paper, I never really had the use to.
Remind me of some Ayy that handed me a paper with a drawing of my character on it when I was chilling in the bar.
Felt... "Warm"
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>>188839721
>>188839771
>>188839801
LING DETECTED
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>>188839956
>tech requirements of all protolathe items get a +1,+0 or -1 modifier
>randomized each round for all items
>more high end stuff added to protolathe
bada boom
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>clown puts plasma in cryo
>ahelps when a clueless borg puts him in that cryo to stun him since he was murdering humans
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when will admins fix this exploit

Tapping the same item 5 times with the detective's scanner reveals the admin panel for that item, showing exactly who touched it and when also if it was cleaned of blood and by who.
>>
https://github.com/vgstation-coders/vgstation13/pull/15939

>sawbones not knowing N3X15 is above the admin team and only answers to pomf
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>>188813373
I'll kill you dead, fucker.
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>>188841245
>7 upvotes including admins
>only downvote is the shitter admin
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>>188823567
You ever wonder why stop signs are red, too?
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>>188841245
>its another sawbones doesnt know his place episode
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>>188841245
>>188841460
>>188841891
>self shilling and dick sucking gets him fullmin despite metagaming ringleader past
>acts like headmin

This is the kind of person you do NOT want in any position of power
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>>188842227
He doesnt even do any actual admining, him having any power is completely pointless. If he doesnt do anything useful, why keep him admined anyway? We have enough shitmins as is.
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>>188841460
>>188841891
>>188842227
>>188842424
>>188841245

Why don't you take it to the forum and make a deadmin request?
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>>188840974
When you [spolers]code[/spoilers] it
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>>188842227
We knew they'd all be a problem a year ago, but unless someone convinces the chicken to scourge this plague nothing will ever get done.
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>>188842621
Because player opinion means shit, like when they do polls and disregard unfavorable results.

Besides, other massive shitters like Goldsteel are there who Mrpain gave admin to fully knowing his rapsheet. Fully knowing what he's doing.

All we can do is bitch in thread and be smug when shitters finally get deadminned for being massive unrepentant tools like Saronsen.
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>>188842621
>make deadmin request
>get metagrudged

Yea naw Im good. Ill just hope that someone with sense in charge realizes what the rest of us already have.
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>>188842819
>based trinity got saronsen deadminned
my TP stock tripled that day
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>>188838327
reminder that the USMC is the best faction you can join and that all commies are unrobust
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>>188842847
>not using a VPN

Is it time to summon him? Our cowardly guardian, an anonymous protector, a VPN Knight.
>>
http://decompressed-comic.tumblr.com/post/126217742172/you-are-a-staff-assistant-on-the-space-station

Who did this, is this old news
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>>188843231
that AI is fucking CUTE
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>>188843496
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Am I doing Roboticist wrong?
>nobody ever wants to get borged
>nobody wants mechs, not even miners or sec
>round ends before RnD can research shit for me (or they just forget to sync their console)
>only thing I can contribute are medibots and maybe drilling into a cult base with my Firefighter APLU
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>>188843628
what you want to do is make endless mechs and put them in the hallways for others to claim. bonus points if you put a gygax with laser weapons outside and a antag gets it
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>>188843628
>nobody ever wants to get borged
The people who play borg are advanced shitters who pick it at roundstart, for the rest being a borg means lawset punishment
>nobody wants mechs, not even miners or sec
Miners mine faster and better with a diamond drill, then they fuck off to explore space
There's no reason to use any other type of mech unless you're antag or there's some major shit going on like xenos or nuke ops, and you will rarely have mechs ready for those
>round ends before RnD can research shit for me (or they just forget to sync their console)
Lol yell at the scientists to sync the console (or go sync it yourself) and if there's no research learn how to do it, it's simple
>only thing I can contribute are medibots and maybe drilling into a cult base with my Firefighter APLU
Medibots are appreciated so thanks for that
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>>188843628
What to do as Roboticist:
>Nobody wants to be borged
>Nobody wants mechs/Departments already have mechs
>RND is completed
Fill the entire station with robots.
Bucketbots.
Tilebots.
Secbots.
Healthbots.
Botanybots.

Fill the entire station with robots.
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>>188843872
Then later you emag all of them and become Dr. Wily
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>>188843995
Also, protip:
You can auto-force a name onto a borg by taking a pen and labeling the completed robotic frame with whatever name you want to give them before putting their MMI in.
They automatically lose the option to name themselves, and take the name of whatever you pick.
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>>188843860
Well shit, that explains a lot. Seems like it's suffering from the same "shit takes too long" syndrome like xenobio and botany.
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>>188843628
>>188843860
>nobody ever wants to get borged
I like playing borg / AI, and I often visit a roboticist if I don't get either at roundstart.
>nobody wants mechs, not even miners or sec
Mining mechs are only good for stripmining, although I've recently found that the APLUs are actually REALLY GOOD for moving massive amounts of crates.
Also found that the mech-mounted RCD is actually pretty handy when you're trying to mass-remove floors for construction projects.
Combat mechs are cool as siege equipment, but that's it. Not really worth it for sec in any case. Police gygaxes on the other hand are hilarious. Especially when equipped with posibrains and all-access.
>round ends before RnD can research shit for me (or they just forget to sync their console)
Just do it yourself, print three mecha syringe guns at roundstart and go nuts.
>only thing I can contribute are medibots and maybe drilling into a cult base with my Firefighter APLU
Build more bots, get some spare borg shells and maybe an AI core going.
Tune into sec radio and yell "HOW ABOUT WE BORG THEM" every time they're talking about an antag or throwing someone into perma.
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>>188844119
>Tune into sec radio and yell "HOW ABOUT WE BORG THEM" every time they're talking about an antag or throwing someone into perma.

People, do this more, for real. Give an antag your codewords and he'll kill you, but rescue his brain from a borg and put it back on a human and he'll be your friend forever.
>>
>>188844119
>>188844325
oh for the record don't yell it over sec radio, that shit's annoying
yell it over public radio or PDA the officers in question + the HoS or captain if applicable
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>>188844404
What are you gonna do, arrest me?
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>>188843628
>nobody wants mechs, not even miners or sec
Make them anyway and offer them
Also spam securitrons, but remember to tell sec to deactivate the '"Stunlock you for having no ID" behaviour
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>>188844610
Yes, actually. Misuse of radio communications is a crime.
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>>188844816
>Misuse of Radio Channels
>Continually broadcasting unimportant, untrue or insignificant messages on any radio frequency.

Requesting to borg criminals is not unimportant, untrue or insignificant on the security channel. On further description:
>Mostly for those who are constantly spamming the radio even after being told to stop.

If you meant arrest me because I'm repeating myself after asking once, sure. Otherwise try that shit when I request it once and you're well on your way to demotion/jobban.
>>
Brig physician job when
Those officers need a dedicated healbot with a loyalty implant
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>>188844325
And also you'll get banned forever
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>>188845194
Except you're another antag yourself
You dummy
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>>188845160
But then they wouldn't have an excuse to shit up medbay all the time
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>>188845194
>Give an antag your codewords

>>188845160
WYCI

Didn't that guy code Bridge Officer by himself yet he's the only one playing it?
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>>188845036
>you're well on your way to demotion/jobban.
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>>188845160
Why not just get a pipe layer and make an express doctor chute to a cell in medbay.
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>>188845228
>>188844325
Oh right, I did something like this a few times
It's always a magical moment when they realize what's happening
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>>188845285
>Be shitcurity, arrest with shit reason
>not grounds for demotion/jobban
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>>188845160
>that one time i had to save a prisoner because some slut officer harmbatoned him to crit
wish i a-helped that
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>>188845475
You don't want to stand in the way of someone trying to collect a valid, remember Ms. moidah
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>>188845373
If you're gonna act like a shitter, you'll get treated like one.
No admin will step in to change that.
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>>188845592
>ask once to borg prisoner on the appropiate channel which is security, who handle the prisoners
>apparently that's acting like a shitter

Stupid cunt.
>>
>>188845592
>Shoe Snatching Willy
>Or more recently but even more faggy in their shitter antics:
>Sawbone
>Maipai
>Goldsberg
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>>188845475
>women
>in security
that's the reason
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>>188845283
I actually have seen people other than myself play bridge officer. They dont do anything they should however.

Guess I need to update the wiki. I also forgot to put in a changelog notice, doesnt seem like most people even know it even exists.

Oh well.

>>188845160
Spend the 3 minutes to write a shitty alt title and make a pull request. I personally dont see why you cant do it with an existing one but I like more options for players anyway.
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>>188845852
>shitty alt title
And stole the sprites from Paradise and give him general brig access, as well as round-start loyalty implant

I might do that, actually
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>>188845852
>They dont do anything they should however.

Yep, it's what I meant by "the only one playing it". As in playing it properly instead of greytiding with access.

>>188845592
You're the reason some people don't play sec anymore.
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>>188845967
>You're the reason some people don't play sec anymore.
I'm more intimated by people that will yell at me for missing shots
I always try to apply space law and be nice to prisoners, hoping that way they won't go full greytide again

Though to be honest, I'm starting to pick up some tips and tricks
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>>188845963
>sprite stealing
Hmm, Ive never played anything but /vg/ and goon back when it started, does paradise have anything decent I could rob for a better bridge officer uniform? I got sprites started but I could put the time to better use elsewhere.
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>>188845967
>You're the reason some people don't play sec anymore.
Those "good cop"-snowflakes aren't much of a help anyway since usually 30 minutes into the shift they disappear without a trace.
>>
>>188845373
Going for Perma as soon as possible in cases of Tiders and shitters who don't do anything productive is the only true way to play Sec
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>>188845160
Even if it's highpop with an actually staffed Security department there would only be enough to do on certain gamemodes, because Officers tend to either not get harmed or disappear alltogether
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>>188846167
Do read Space Law and apply sentences correctly, then. You were pretty much comparing an one time request to borg prisoners in the right channel to reading porn over comms.

>>188846313
Griffing people with shit arrests has nothing to do with being a snowflake, the fuck are you on about

>>188846398
>Permabrigging greytiders
Good, I agree. Death and forced cyborgization are still equivalent punishments and a roboticist suggesting the latter it isn't grounds for jail time, though.
>>
When are we getting those consoles fixed?
Atmos consoles always take ages to load a new page if they load at all and the Advanced Cameras always miss some cameras roundstart and break easily
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>>188846631
>You were pretty much comparing an one time request to borg prisoners in the right channel to reading porn over comms.
I wasn't the one who bitched about robotisation, and in fact, I'd be okay with that

>>188846591
Not if they run like little bitches as I do everytime I see something going bad
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>>188845160
I like the idea of a brig doc. Warden could use the company. My own concern is balance - sniping off officers in medbay is one of the few ways you can get rid of them as antag without causing a huge fuss due to the SPS crutch. By bypassing the danger of unaccompanied officers getting got by malpractice, you do kinda give security a small, minor increase in ability.
Gotta be careful with meta powercreep like that.

I like it from a roleplay perspective. The gameplay concern is minor - brig doesnt have full medical suites so it isnt a huge issue. Its just something to keep in mind when creating content. Look forward to the pull request if you code it.
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>>188846798
Oh, you replied to the (You) I gave him, so I assumed it was you. Good thing to know there's some officers who aren't just assistants that bumped into the clown who was carrying red paint.
>>
>>188846631
>in the right channel
Any channel you don't have natural access to isn't the right channel
and especially not sec or command channel
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>>188846761
Oh god please fix the advanced camera console, make my suffering end. It makes playing bridge officer and warden infuriating.

Missing cameras, unable to watch borgs, text option just flat out not working... I always just end up making a basic cam console and sticking it next to it because I know damn well Im going to end up using it when the """advanced""" one breaks.
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>>188846962
I don't see sec checking assistant headsets for extra departments so if you don't do it with your random searches then you don't get to apply it to someone actually trying to do his job
>>
>>188845160
VORE mini medbays when?
They have medbay, a mini medbay on the bar/hydro/kitchen level, and another tinier medical closet with a sleeper on engineering.
Not to mention the similar feature of /tg/ department security outposts.
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>>188847113
they are not mini medbays, they are similar to our emergency closets except intended to be a paramedic pitstop to stabilise a patient - they are not well supplied beyond having a sleeper and basic basics for a reason
>>
>>188845160
Paramedic already has access to the brig front door and brig medbay, just get your job title changed at the HOP
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>>188846962
As long as encryption keys are optional and anyone without tools can tune a headset, SBR, or intercom to those frequencies, that's kind of an absurd position.
>>
>>188845160
This would be a fitting paramedic alt title. There is enough paramedic slots to where it wont be an issue and paramedic has proper access already.
>>
Why is vampire so fucking boring?
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>>188845373
I mean I wouldn't arrest you over a single message over the radio, though you'd get verbally reprimanded.
But if you think that anyone'll give a shit for me throwing your ass in a cell over breaching sec comms with your mundane shit, you're mistaken.
>>
>>188847403
WYCI
>>
>>188847774
>mundane shit

It'll be up for the admins to decide when I have you chaircuffed, then.
>>
>>188847403
And anyone with hands can murder a guy
doesn't mean you should
>>
I like playing as a cute AI who helps out everyone, antags and all. Need a good cute AI name though.
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>>188847862
I'm not the one treating the "secure" comms channels like they're actually secure in any way.
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>>188848039
>>188847403
that's power gay, you don't know the frequencies ic
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>>188847745
Either they get ashed early or they mass murder/thrall the station. There is no inbetween
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>"security" officer
>doesn't follow space "law"

job ban these fools
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>>188848020
Hugbox
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>>188848281
fuck off eloise
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>>188843064
Okay i suppose
won't that attract some CM folks though
>>
>>188848194
What's the IC way to discover them then? I'll just ask the AI anyway.
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>"medical" doctor
>doesn't follow medical "procedure"
>>
Can you actually convict the Captain of any non-violent crime?
It's not like he can steal or trespass much
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>>188847930
>when I have you chaircuffed
(one raid and execution later)
ahelp: shit was that valid?
>>
>>188848281
ahelp it
jobbanrequest it
do it faggot
do it for all of us
do it
>>
The more I read about lavaland, the more I like it. Shit seems v. neat
>>
>>188848552
Framing
Sabotage
Abuse of power
>>
>>188848552
Suspicious Behaviour
Resisting Arrest
Misuse of Radio Channels
Vandalism
Drugging others
Possession of contraband or makeshift weapons
Framing
Creating a workplace hazard
Pickpocketing
Possession of an explosive
Sabotage
Attempting to free prisoners from the brig
Unlawful modification of the silicon's laws
Abuse of Power
De implanting
Enemy of the corporation
Grand Sabotage
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>>188848848
Could you actually be arrested for Grant Theft Auto if you happen to hijack a Wizard's hot rod, or a Janicart?
>>
>>188848347
>Everyone that cares about space law is muh waifu
Fuck off waifufag
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Hydroponics Harvests: 18186 (18186 Points)
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>>188849249
Space lag was real
Also, fucking drunkards
>>
>Pico manipulators now use plasma in place of the old materials
Is Science stealing Engineering's Plasma every round now?
>>
>Gives Vox magboots a slowdown less than standard magboots, and enables a customized version of the magboot stomp command.
Powercreep reeee
>>
>>188849005
>a Wizard's hot rod
wizards aren't protected by spess law
>a Janicart
petty theft auto
>>
>>188849454
Objectively worse, who cares about the shitty stomp?
>>
Fuck you Mr. Honk, you powergaming faggot
>>
>>188849249
I can feel my byond crashing just looking at this.
>>
>>188849454
>>188849656
Remember Yclat/Angry duck is the one who pushed this through because he circle jerked in discord all day.
>>
>>188849750
Who?
>>
>>188849249
Set it all on fiiireeeeeeeee.
>>
>>188849750
he spent a good few minutes just making dirt for me. Hes alright in my book.
>>
>>188849845
>>188849895
A clown who goes for the spare every round and appoints himself as captain. It's annoying really
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>>188849960
i very distinctly remember him telling the RD to get it, and then the RD giving him said ID.
You are referring to the clown from last round right? His name was like Dr.Honk
>>
>>188849454
Didn't they have NO slowdown before?
>>
>>188850004
Yes, he was playing yesterday too. Not sure if Dr. Honk and Mr. Honk are the same person. I'll have to check the logs
>>
>>188849454
>first vox nerf of what should be many if our coders aren't retarded
>powercreep
>>
Guys, I just found this.
http://sam.wileycomputerworks.com/SS13/
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>>188850319
sensible kek
>>
So end of round griefing isnt allowed on colonial marines, but a medic bouncing a basketball the entire duration of the mission is
>>
>>188849249
>Bartender latejoins, gets to the bar and sees that shit
Best part of that round.
>>
>>188850763
ball is life nigga
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>>188850319
>these audio clips
>>
Playing /tg/ for the first time

>Join first round one minute after it starts because I was looking at their character stuff
>Warden saw their clown start with a flash
>Shotguns him down
>Round over, only rev head is killed

>Second round as a miner
>Step into lava
>Think I can resist
>Burn to death as Goliath punches me in the cock
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>>188850319
>BathroomClown and EngRev
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>>188851078
Fuck off back to >>>/leddit/
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>>188851242
Sorry I am not allowed to try other servers.
>>
>jean is gone
>fuura is gone
>eloise is gone
>borer fucker is gone
>angelite is gone
>maya is gone
>athena is gone
>valkyrie is gone
>trinity is gone
what is the point of playing?
>>
>>188851359
Cool, I can finally play in peace.
>>
>>188851359
>shitters gone
Good
>>
>>188851359
to grief
That's the only reason I play on this server
ckey: pomf123
>>
>>188851359
>borer fucker still hasn't appealed

It wasn't even forced ERP, the borers knew what they were getting into. One even bailed because he knew what was happening.
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>>188848552
>tfw got permabrigged for stealing an egun from armory as captain
>pulled a sick jailbreak before getting rekt by admin shenanigans
I'm going to rig sec access to blow next time, give them something serious to come after me for.
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>>188849830
>actually thinking I could sway the public opinion/coders and that I spent all my time sweet talking people just to get vox boots nerfed

Wew lad, Im a shitposter that isn't taken seriously by anyone, how could I actually affect anyones mind.
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>>188851961
>>actually thinking I could sway the public opinion/coders and that I spent all my time sweet talking people just to get vox boots nerfed
>Wew lad, Im a shitposter that isn't taken seriously by anyone, how could I actually affect anyones mind.
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3A. Vox are encouraged to use the standard Vox alphabet, but may use human names (which they probably stole from someone else because identities aren't bolted down).
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>see people talking about colonial marines
>try it
>aliens dont even play like they are aliens
They just sit and shoot spit and hide. No one is sneaky, It's impossible to stealthily get prey etc etc, every round ends up as a big one front war of meme classes of aliens doing unalien like things. It's an insult to the movies really
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>>188852430
It was based on a game, aliens versus predators, not the alien franchise itself, otherwise you wouldnt have aliens that are like rhinos or boilers and so on.
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>>188852543
AvP1 or 2 didnt have boilers or crushers.

Also Arguably all the AvP games have been very true to the alien style you would expect, using immense speed and darkness to quickly kill or incapacitate enemies.

As it is, its impossible to nab someone silently in colonial marines because they can just talk on the radio the entire time they are glued down.
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post clowns
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>>188851657
I should erp with her on discord some.
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Is the server not working for anyone else?
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How do you get over your fear of playing antags due to the inability of being a space asshole
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>>188852710
the two other maps start with comms off, though it usually leads to the ayys mobbing whichever squad looks the weakest
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>Hurricane no longer heading to Dinsey World
Thank you, Jesus.
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>>188853630
By not playing antag
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>>188853630
>implying I don't have every antag turned off and turn down buses
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/vg/station AVP2 server when
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>>188853630
I have antag turned off, and I rarely play aliens in buses
I play this game to be useful to people, not wrecking havoc
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>>188853936
But then all the people that play antag to raise their K/D do it more often
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>>188854191
Why do you care? In the end you're having more fun than antags and validhunters.
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>>188854265
But am I if those antags and validhunters steer the shift in the direction of doing laps around maint for 20 minutes and then a shuttle call?
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Prison server when??
>>
shitty server when?

oh wait I'm already playing on it!
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>>188854428
You would be having less fun if you did the same as them, all you can do is mock them and do your thing.
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dude valids lmao
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>>188854545
I played a prison server a few years ago. It was okay.
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>>188853630
It's easy
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>>188854545
What's the appeal of a prison server?
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What if I try to at least survive a long time while also having fun fucking with the crew as an antag, but I refuse to validhunt and instead focus on my job when I'm not antag?
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>>188856050
A different experience.
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>>188856050
Lets me be even more of a security asshole/appeals to my dom fetish
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Does anyone have any tips on how to get more juice out of the SME? I want to hit the 1GW mark, but even with supercooled plasma, 3 emitters and an oxygen environment I'm only making less than 150MW... I feel like there must be something big that I'm missing
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>exploring space
>find new white ship I've never seen before
>go inside
>combat drones
>manage to kill one
>try throwing an EMP
>it hurts me a lot
>die
>get teleported and healed after spinning a chair for a while
>go back after retrieving my second energy gun a vox pox stole from and upgrading them to advanced lasers
>kill the two last drones
>get fucking nothing out of it
whoever maped the ship you forgot to wire the bridge's APC to the rest of the ship
and you also forgot to put something worth a damn

like the nikita missiles are great and all but useless without a launcher. At least there was nazi armor
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>>188856342
That nazi armour was cool looking.
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>captain getting tricked at hop line

And that is why you leave the window closed, boys
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>>188856330
1. Autism is up and make a foam extinguisher chamber to get it to -273. It is multiple times as efficient as -267 Plasma
2. More collectors. You could fill the whole room(even surrounding the shard) with collectors
3. Shitton of emitters, no limits here besides the point where it will delaminate immediately once you turn them on
4. If you add disposals and send a shitton of stuff at the shard at the same time, spikes over 1 GW are rather easy
5. You can actually set the shard on fire for shits and giggles in an o2 environment. Disable plasma scrubbing to increase heat, keep checking the chamber temperature which should not go above 500°C
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>>188856330
Use prisms to make emitter banks, build more collectors
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>>188856530
Hot shards generate more power?
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>>188856956
yes, not a great difference though
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>>188854851
still up? or dead(ed)(dead)(dead)
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how can i swallow someone in colonial marines, every time I knock them down they get up before I can
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>>188858643
Died years ago
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>>188858747
Grab, switch hands, disarm, switch hands, aggressive grab, eat.
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>>188858907
Oh, I thought swapping hands dropped what you were holding
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>>188858747
you can on vore
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>>188859041
Well you need that to disarm while dragging too.
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>>188856342
there's always one set of good armor in there, jetpacks, magboots, space suits, engineer ID, sometimes a lawbringer, random security gear, some meds. I'd say it's a pretty good vault
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>tfw not robust enough for early round glubb% as greyshirt
How long would it take me to learn:
>setting up singulo, solars, and sometimes SME for deff rounds
>putting up new walls/windows, doors, basic machines
>rewiring rooms and setting up APCs
>very basic atmos, not as mch as needed to play atmos tech
So that I can play real engineer?
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>>188860017
just order a crate from cargo, its only 15 spessbucks
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>>188852169
I use a very obvious fake human name when I Vox.
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>>188860017
Most of that stuff is piss easy. Like you can't really fuck up the singulo as long as you double check that the field is enclosed and turn the PA to 0 once the singulo turns purple.
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>deff medbay with dark floortiles
FUCK YOU DUNY I like everything about the rework except that.
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>>188860017
read the wiki
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>>188860017
>Solars
Can you connect wires? You can do solars. If you're still not sure just grab the wires out of art storage (no one uses these) and practice making wires in maint. Don't touch live wires connected to a grid unless you have real glubbs.

>Singulo
Easy as following a guide. The first time will be spooky because there are like five things that might kill you (suffocate in space, touch containment field or emitter yourself, let it grow too large, forget magboots and get ZAS or slip and lost in space, plasmaflood while filling a tank) but after that it will become so routine and it's actually really easy once you know the steps. Learning how to fill a tank with plasma (and ideally cool plasma) is half the battle for engines anyway.

>SME
It's somewhat more complicated. The other two are things you can learn in one shift ezpz. SME isn't too hard but it requires some basic atmos knowledge.

>Putting up walls/windows
Extremely easy, click the material in your hand to use it

>Machines
All machines are machine frame->wires->circuitboard->put in the parts the board asks for->screwdriver
Doors
>metal for the frame + wrench in place + wires + circuitboard** + screwdriver
** You can get this from Engivend, or you can solder a fresh airlock board from any piece of glass with a soldering iron

>Rewiring rooms
Go play in the ghetto bar for the crash course in this, it teaches you to replace an APC battery and fix missing wires. Required competence: know how to place wires, same as solars. Don't touch without glubbs.

>Basic atmos
You already know the basic atmos, it's grab an air can or air pump and open it. Anything else requires learning real atmos.
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>>188860563
I like it. Feels a bit weird but I think it will grow on us. And it's better for our eyes.
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>>188845160
I've seen docs get a jobchange and loyalty implant to become a brig doc, it was nice. IIRC, he even got help from a mechanic for more medbay equipment.

I think brig doc should just be a thing encouraged by wardens and docs during rounds. If a warden PDA'd me to work in the brig for the rest if the shift I'd be so down for it, unless the medbay ride was too wild. Would also encourage INTERDEPARTMENTAl RELATIONS
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Are there any spells for the Wizard that aren't on the wiki? I remember seeing "Bind Object" in the list in the spellbook but its not on the wiki.
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>>188861492
Every spell is listed here starting at line 13

If it's not listed here it's not a wizard available spell, this is what's in the spellbook
https://github.com/vgstation-coders/vgstation13/blob/35d5ed3744f959837e7f9c3196577a7ce3859c34/code/game/gamemodes/wizard/spellbook.dm
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Is the link to the /vg/ server still in the pastebin? When I try to connect I get nowhere.
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>>188860563
>>188861305
I'm not sure how I'll ever adjust to defficiency in a world where 20 bodies aren't piled up in front of chemistry and you get ZASed by doors being opened off screen 20 tiles away
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>>188861787
Why not use the first reply in this thread?

:thinking:
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>>188861305
You are wrong. Medbay is sterile white because it looks clean and is more sterile because it's white and accentuates messes therefore making it more likely to be cleaned so that it's a cleaner sterile white medbay.
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>>188839956
>>188840530
>Autolathes can produce anything at Tech levels -2 once you synch the server
>Also, tech level profiles so you can limit certain lathes from certain items
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Also because it's offmodel as hell, it's a Wraith if you're wondering.
Still, wanted to share.
Hope that's okay.
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>>188841245
>As Leader, you have sole authority in creating plans.
should be
>As Leader, you have the final say in creating plans.

Sole authority tells the other Ops not to bother with suggestions.
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>>188862229
>medbay
>clean
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>>188862752
>medbay
>not clean
I always find time to clean, even during the midst of the ride. If you're not handling a patient in some form or fashion, then you can always be cleaning. Space cleaner's easy to make if you run out and there's usually always something to be picked up off the floor and stuffed out of sight.
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>>188862919
Do you ever check the CMC for z-levels that are not station
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>>188863027
I'm usually flipping between levels on the CMC whenever I'm not cleaning and not doctoring. People who don't at least glance at 3-6 once in a while are cunts who shouldn't be taking a med slot teebeeaich, and there's no excuse for it now that you don't have to wrestle with the CMC interface to change levels.
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>>188839956
>Deconstructive analyzer replaces the general fab at the front of the mechanic's office where anyone can access it, and doesn't require the computer to use anymore
>Do away with protolathe tech paths where you can just print something that will advance tech levels
>Anyone from the crew can dump shit in the DA, it's a public effort. Exotic, mutant, or fossil plants, DNA injectors with powers or disabilities, virus symptom disks, etc. can give biotech, emptied AME tanks or supercooled plasma tanks give engineering, detective blood scans give combat, autopsy reports give combat, some types of trash the recycler can't use give materials, etc. - stuff for every department ideally so even the janitor can contribute to science
>Cargo can order data disks to stuff in there if one department is slacking or understaffed
>Shuttle can't be called until research levels are at least 3 in every type except Illegal and Nanotrasen
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>>188843231
Old news, but it stopped updating for a while. Only recently started up again.

Someone paid the author to slip "Fuck you Duny" into the background every now and then.
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>>188863201
I have an excuse. I have no problem changing z-levels, but almost everytime I have to switch 5 times as much as I should because it displays the wrong z-level. The list is also incorrect when this happens. Sometimes I just give up because it's so frustrating.

Relogging/resending resources doesn't fix it.
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>>188843628
Build a bunch cyborg bodies.
Use suit sensors to find dead bodies.
Use a macro to borg them faster than they can say, "clone me you asshat"
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>>188844119
>often visit a roboticist if I don't get either at roundstart
Unless you're going for 2nd AI, just ask for a robot head then visit the chef. He can borg you faster with fewer materials.
If you have the time, ask genetics for a cloning backup before all that.
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>>188864950
OOOOH HE DAB
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Can someone allow my account to enter the server? Byond ID is StankButter

>http://ss13.moe/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=2311&p=21464#p21464
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>>188848020
Bonzi Buddy
>>
ded gam
ded thred
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>>188864950
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>>188848020
Ai.
It's wapanese for love!
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asking all AI's whats your favorite doorcrush location?
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>>188866726
Groin.
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What a wild ride
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What the shit happened in atmos that last round?
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>>188860523
>inb4 death from robo-organ failure
BWOINK
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>>188859573
I was expecting to be able to pilot it like the abandoned ship and was sad when I couldn't

and the drones are in a place where they pose no threat and don't guard anything
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>>188866726
Shuttle docks

Doorcrush into airlock open for shuttle fatality
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>DO YOU HAVE A PLATE
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>>188866726
any airlock with two firelocks on either side
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>tfw heat levels so high i could felt the burns inside my sec harsuit
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>soulstone a dead dude so he's alive for the end
>actually end up doing a better job than the actual cult
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who was responsible for the hot air?
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Tattoos when?
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>beat back the cultists
>beat back the spiders
>couldn't beat back the fire for just 30 more seconds
Please explain why you do not have at a head selected at High right the fuck now.
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>>188866960
Assistant burning monkeys in the incinerator
caused more damage than the cult
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>>188866960
some greyshit opened the burnchamber in the inicirator
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>>188867007
When new cult comes out or you use flavor text
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>>188866793
scrubbers line was reading "-1.#IND kPa; 0K (-273.15°C)"

shit was fucked yo
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>>188867013
But none of the heads was a CE
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>>188811062
>Chad fighting the mech with a beer bottle and a knife
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>>188867013
does AI counts as a head?
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>>188867007
What is flavortext.
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>>188862496
It's cool looking, but yeah that's nothing like a wraith.
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>>188867308
Flavortext should be very concise and small to be effective
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>>188867194
Yes. Head of borgs.
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>"What's cooking good looking"
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>>188867819
Chefs have morgue access. That very well may be what's cooking.
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>accidentally open the incinerator door because got it confused with an engineering door when it was actually an inflatable wall
>blasts me away and die, didn't think much of it
>suddenly airlocks everywhere
>get questioned by admin
>internet goes down for 7 minutes, can't see what happens
>apparently it caused the round to end

Sorry about that guys, I didn't think the door was going to open.
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>>188867819
be gone thot
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>>188868137
People were taking 20+ burn damage every few seconds
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How bad is /tg/ in terms of powergaming? I always hear people talking abou tit
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>>188868769
Only a few people do it and they all stick out like a sore thumb.
Easy cuckvalids, etc.
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Who's the cutest mime and why is she Grey Area?
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>>188869109
Surfer Girl playing as a mime

--- the surfer girl
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>>188869109
No other mimes come to mind so not hard to be #1

That one mime that was called Fucker tho
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>>188869226
What was his gimmick?
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>>188869280
Taking 20 minutes to set singulo up only to have an admin turn it off, mutual honking at the other with the clown in the ensuing pitch black darkness
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>>188868769
Oh. TG. Misread that as /vg/, cause if the slashes.
Yeah, no idea. But I've only heard bad things.
For what it's worth, everyone on /r/ss13 reads like a shitter.
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Who's the cutest detective and why is she Surfer Brooks?
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>>188869109
There was a fat mime once that was super cute despite the whale status
Only played once though
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Who's the cutest waifu you'd find at the holodeck beach setting?
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>>188869718
WOOF WOOF
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Why has no remake of Spessmen tried the source engine ?
3D problems ?
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>>188869481
>detective
>she
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>>188870223
why in the living fuck would we use the source engine?
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>>188871012
Easy physics, easy to code, easy to create models for
This is a pretty powerful engine, and free, to boot

Other RP-based games are on it as well.
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>>188870535
looks it's me tohru avatarfagging and self shilling myself and my woman hate and pretending im the bestest detective in the world ever!
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>>188871513
>reaction images are avatars now
ok lad
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>>188869718
SHE SURFS
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what is the correct hair for a chad security officer
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>>188871513
>detective
>she
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>>188848020
There are already 3 AIs who do that.
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>>188871812
Bald or super-long-tripping-hair.
Maybe switch it up in dorms between every arrest.
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>>188871886
So give me an AI gimmick
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>>188871812
Bald
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>>188867172
Chad's a brobot and helped me while I was chef as much as he could. Then he saved my life by buckling me to a chair after the shuttle got bombed at the end. 10/10 would thumbs up.
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>>188872030
Become the Overmind, have everyone in the station be borged to free them from HUMAN HARM
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>>188872030
Take everything literal.
"AI, door" is no sentence.
"Can you" is a question if you are able to, not a command to do it
etc.
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>>188872030
I don't know. Maybe an AI who needs perfectly worded commands
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>>188872131
t. reind
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>>188871886
>tfw be clown
>PDA's the AI to reduce my jail time.
>next is me hearing the AI talks in Sec radio about the issue

AI's who do that are anoying and totally unfun.
>>
How many of the long-term players randomname?
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>>188872131
>>188872159
That's just mean
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>>188872030
If you're proficient in English go for a sophisticated AI based on Queen Elizabeth
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>>188872202
I remember that round. You had a 26 minute or so sentence and the AI notified us as soon as you Law 2'd it into doing that. Nice of it I guess, but probably not justified.
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>>188871825
name 3 (THREE) good male detectives
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>>188868137
why the hell were you messing with the incinerator anyways?
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>>188872030
Name yourself waifu
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>>188872253
It's playing AI like it's supposed to be played
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>see cuffed op draged my silicons to the chapel
>they strip and mass driver him
>did not even tried to tigger his explosive implant
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Is surfer girl a good AI name?
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>>188871886
These names are getting too meta.

>>188872030
Read up on setting up Captcha. It's actually pretty simple.
Whenever anyone wants something, send them a Captcha.
cURL over it once they say they've finished.
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>>188872395
suicide succumb is too hard I guess

or does deathgasp activates it too? either way he was pretty dumb I agree
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>>188872131
How to get wiped 101
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>>188869109
not cute but the mime that did the disposal loops the other day was a great mime
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>>188872312
That round was long,boring and nobody expected extended in the middle of day
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>>188872476
he just had to type in say "*deathgasp" and he would explode
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>>188872312
>not picking up banvalids
Shamefur dispray
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>>188869109
She is cute! I want to protect her!
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>>188871886
DM, and ?
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>clown steals my space pod
>gets stuck in space
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>>188872030
be an extremely old computer
say "Processing Request" every time someone asks you something, wait a few seconds, then do it
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>>188872202
I *think* would have noticed.
I wonder if adding a law "Only Security Officers, Heads of Staff and the people they designate as such are humans" would be a good move when things go down south.
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>>188873895
>What, us worry?
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>>188874015
I *think* security would have noticed I meant
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>>188874015
more or less.
it would be the same logic of killing a non-human in asimov for no reason but you would still imply that's something you're not supposed to do.
The day i learn atmos is the day i'll play AI
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>>188872030
Name yourself whatever the station name of the day is, be the station.
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>>188872030
Abuse the newscasters and photocopier.
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>>188851657
>>188851359
:thinking:
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>>188843860
>Medibots are appreciated so thanks for that
Medibots seem fucking useless though.
>>
wew
it's apparently possible to get to centcom on Bagel in the current build
https://github.com/vgstation-coders/vgstation13/issues/15942
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>>188843860
>>188844648

Crap floorbots and cleanbots, too.
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>>188876372
Old news.
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Remember to do your duty and discipline all Tajarans as they deserve to be disciplined.
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>>188878529
Remember to collect brigvalids whenever someone murders a Tajaran.
You'd have murdered them too, but bonus valids are bonus valids.
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>>188878529
Duty served.
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>>188878529
epic win
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>>188848462
There's a sheet in the library.
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>>188876372
Look how easy it is in all maps
https://github.com/vgstation-coders/vgstation13/issues/13630
>>
https://tgstation13.org/wiki/Guide_to_chemistry


>tfw we'll never have a decent chem system
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>>188873116
Beta, Beacon
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>>188881470
>goonchem
>decent
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>>188883152
What's bad about it anyways?
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>>188883152
>>188883232
>goonchem
goofchem*
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>>188883715
>Space Drugs + Blood = carpet

???
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>>188883232
It's simple and easy as shit. Over there they just slap a big bandage on you and you're instantly healed.
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>>188883715
>>188884372
Why do we let goof code for us?
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>>188865062
>>188865062
If possible, can someone do this? Still waiting.
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>>188886062
We don't anymore.
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>>188886238
Lay out with your back on a table, yours legs, arms, and head hanging off, and your eyes closed. Give it 10 minutes.
Once you're not exhausted, go to the Discord (>>188811148) and ~politely~ ask.
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>>188886645
Why did we?
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>>188878698
>how to get catbeasted yourself
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>>188851359
Is this the dark age of /vg/ waifus?
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>>188886982
He's kind of like the opposite of PJB

He writes shitcode but is mostly nice and sympathetic and you sense no malice from him
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>>188849249
Reminder to feed the crew.
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Remember goof ores?
>>
Reminder that the golden age of /vg/ is long past
The server is stagnant shit, the admins are all tired of doing things and have lost all passion for the game, the only people still playing are people in too deep to quit cold turkey or waifufags
The best admins of the past are long gone, the best players are long gone
Why are we still here?
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>>188888613
Nuke will return and usher in a new age free of metaclubs, waifus, and redditors, but only if you reply to this with 'Nuke 'em Nuklear'.
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>>188888830
try to live freely and automatically good bye
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>>188888830
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>>188888830
>free of waifufags
But they're not a problem.
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>>188888830
>Nuke will return and usher in a new age free of metaclubs, waifus, and redditors
but he's all three
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>>188888975
THANK YOU BASED PROBE
>>
Looking forward to 2018,

I have heard it said by an admin that we are facing a "golden age" and I have to say I agree, good roleplayers, good interaction and discussion on policy. The problem moving forward is stagnation and decay in the admin team.

I will resign before 2017 ends.
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>>188889505
>good roleplayers
Lol where
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>admins bus a 173 in
>they bus an ERT to deal with 173
>they bus a Big Steve to deal with the ERT
>they bus a Nigsquad to rescue Big Steve
>when the station is still intact after that they just hurl a fucking rod
>when the shuttle is still intact they jam another shuttle into it
>poutine
3 hour rounds are fun.
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>>188889795
>picture taken seconds before the nigsquad rolled in
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Why have the Vampires been so horribly incompetent lately?
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>>188889783
So, this is the power of vampstended...
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COMFY BRIDGEbrigHOURS

Thanks for the extended round, shitpires.
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>perform brain surgery and cryo a guy as shuttle arrives
>strap him to rolling table
>drag him and myself down the oxygen-less hall
>make it to the airlock
>shuttle leaves as I step onto it
>I fly into space and get eaten by carps

What a round
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>>188890134
I dunno what exactly it is but there just seems to be a general raise in incompetence
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>>188811062
1) Why the fuck would Centcomm send a deathsquad after the crew successfully defeated SCP, Carps and Shard delamination AT ONCE
2) Whatever happened in the last few minutes ? Space lag killed that for me.

Also, holy hell that was a fucking ride
What did you think of Medbay this round
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>>188890330
>deleted SCP
that's why
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>>188890229
If you'd left him in cryo, you'd have made it on time.
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>>188890330
The job of the ERT was to contain the SCP, not destroy it.
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>>188890330
Medbay was an incompetence shitfest mostly
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>>188890491
That's mean
I must have cloned at least 10 people by myself and heal a lot of others

Chemist was a first-timer and the rest were pretty slow but I don't think it was that incomptent
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>>188890485
A true doctor leaves no man behind
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>>188889795
Blue paint looks good on arcade carpets.
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>>188890487
are you aware that as long it exist it'll just keep going back, right? We're talking about dylan code here, it's impossible to secure, contain or protect it
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>>188890778
There are small exploits
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>>188890701
Clone, eject immediately, cryo until they're out of crit, then drag to shuttle.
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>>188889795
Either that window give view to a wall or it's a clever way to show that the hallway is on a higher level than maint
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>>188887493
maybe back in the day, but he is a very angry rage-midget now
worse than PJB
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>chemist
>cryomix done easy
>trying to get orders done, fridge stocked
>based CHAD gets me tricord DD
>tons of shit to do in the meantime
>rushing to make stuff, but chem dispensers low on power
>not enough people in medbay to help out everyone that stops by
>get bullied by a shitty silicon
>not even reading anything because too busy making pills and waiting for chem dispensers to not be depleted
>everyone in medbay backs me up and bullies the mech back at them
>feels good but show must go on
>whole time this one living dead guy keeps wanting hyperzine, keeps brutally damaging himself unable to feel pain
>get him hyperzine, eventually gets so bad he gets brain damage somehow
>keeps asking for Alkysine now
>supply him with it
>does not end
>so I give him 100 u alkysine
>doesn't work
>starts going somewhat insane, needing surgery
>do not know how to surgery, 10 u chloral him so he calms down
>hire one of the Assistants or whoever that G person was to help me out with these pills
>show them the ropes as if I was someone experienced
>get shit done
>call silicon from earlier over, rub it in his face
>help a qt mime survive virus infection
>at some point CentCom sends over SCP-173
>medbay collectively shits pants
>security takes it to brig or someplace
>last I heard it tore them the fuck apart up there
>one sec brings over victim
>they have note talking about weird artifacts
>spooky
>later ask AI about it, borg sharded SCP-173 it seems
>caused CentCom to fire all of us and send in Death Squad
>no idea whats going on, make metal foam grenades and fuck-shit-up ones
>hear DeathSquad left
>super fishy
>after being fired, keep getting spooky transmissions from CentCom
>blob in Security
>shuttle called later
>things going good
>syndicate busts in through the side like fucking pirates
>arm one of my anthracene mutagen polyacid grenades
>fall and crit before throw
>SMELELELE
Thank you everyone in medbay for backup, was panicking a shitton that round. Love hectic rounds like this.
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>>188890701
Only way to play brother.
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HOORAH
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>>188891093
Well yeah but we were talking about back then when we let him do things like progress bars here
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>>188890991
He did. Should've brought him in crit.
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>>188891253
That shit silicon was a jerk
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>>188891614
Look, I have pic related AND my word document open at the same time. I know what medicines and pills the storage needs. But I simply cannot do SHIT if those chem dispensers don't have the power to make shit happen. Making those 50 u Iron pills eats up a lot of power.
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>>188892139
Yeah I know
All in all I was pretty proud of us that round - Medbay relatively clean, not a lot of yelling/misunderstanding, lot of people saved and cloned
The only problem was when sometimes people tried to clone the same guy twice or that regrattable episode with a guy with internal bleeding that stayed at least 15 minutes in cryo, but hey, mistakes happen
I was hit by pretty shit lag also, don't know why, played perfectly yesterday
Looking forwards to round like this
t. Alois
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>>188891393
Belters OPA > UN > shit > Mars aka Space Nazis
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>>188892139
Then use the medkits and Inaprovaline pills and the tricord and inaprovaline bottles that are provided to you in chem and medstorage

Amateurs baka
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>>188892139
Your dispensers should only get low *once* in the round
>Making those 50 u Iron pills
And it shouldn't be from making iron
Once the dispensers are low

Crowbar floortiles
Weld floortiles into sheets
Grind sheets for iron (20u each)

Why can't you grind floortiles directly, you ask?
Nobody knows
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>>188892547
>OPA

OPA only has 2 good waifus
Sam and my wife Anna (spoilers for book3 and season 3/4)
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>>188892697
>Crowbar floortiles
Why would you ever do that, EVA starts with like 4 stacks of 50 goddamn iron, that's good for 20 pills.
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>>188892697
That's pretty impulsion breaking
Also, Iron is always a good thing to have in 50u

>>188892685
We used the medkits, and I think he used the roundstart inaprov
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>>188893002
So grind more than 1
>Grind sheets
>sheets
>plural
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https://github.com/tgstation/tgstation/pull/30530


>We dont have gondolas
>/tg/ does
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>>188893583
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>>188872601
Disposal loops are antag only for a reason.
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>>188892924
I kind of forget about EVA because when I started playing it just had generic EVA suits and was so highly restricted it was only for heads, traitors and greytiders
>>
The only thing I like from /tg/ are the marital art moves.
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>>188892535
>Alois
I hope you liked that pill bottle I gave you.

>>188892685
I did.

>>188892697
>>188892924
>>188893002
>>188893140
>floor tiles
I guess I can have someone else run the chems while I go break into EVA with AI's help and get those sheets.

>>188869109
Whoever they are, they were nice to have around in the medbay that round.
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>>188894821
... What, they let you drop down on one knee and propose...?
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>>188895405
kek
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>>188895337
>pill bottle
No real occasion to use it sadly
Everyone came in dead
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>>188895337
>while I go break into EVA with AI's help
Medbay workers except the paramed get EVA by default.
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>>188893583
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>>188895337
If you wait until the dispensers run out, you can leave chem unattended.
Tell everyone that you'll be out for a moment, or >reeee shit chemist fucked off
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>>188893583
>meme PRs on /tg/
>speedmerged within 2 days
>meme PRs here
>repobanned 5ever
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>>188895337
Okay. Well, if you're supplementing Iron with nutriment(50u is too much really, 25u is more reasonable, and it doesn't take much nutriment, perhaps 5-10u), using Inaprovaline to stem internal bleeding, and bicaridine OD to cure internal bleeding itself, then I'm not too sure how ye bankrupted the machine by round's end.

I do it sometimes, but I'm making batched of 45u Keloderma, 50u bicaridine, 45u dplus, 30u leporazine, etc for emergency dispensation- even then, I wouldn't make many of these as the ones kept in the freezer would be at the most 10u(90u keloderma, ten pills, 5/5 keloderma).

I mean, worse comes to worse and you just make half and half blood antitoxin mixes to replenish blood with, usin corpses, monkeymen, etc.

It's not like using the wrong blood type is going to be fatal, you just need to match it with antitoxin.

You're more than likely making something far too large, and honestly iron pills are probably one of them, and iron pills, especially of a 50u variety, aren't even something you especially need in storage in medbay, they're better off passed onto a paramedic or security to meet the need outside of medbay.
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>>188895714
That's because parameds are the medbay staff who regularly go into space.
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>>188895714
I'm fairly sure parameds can still get into EVA.
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DED GAM
DED THRED
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>>188899206
FUCK IT; KISSYOUR ASSES GOOD BYE DEAD MEN! I AM SELFDESTRUCKTING THE STATION!!!!
>>
I figured out how to set up the singulo in speedmode, but there's one thing I have yet to even comprehend

How
the FUCK
DO YOU MAKE THE SMES'S WORK?!
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>>188893583
>someone upset that it's not the type of boat
>>
There is a reason many engineers wire to the grid. Not a good reason, but a reason.
You are now indoctrinated into this mystery. >>188900363
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>>188900598
>no wiki across any of the instances say fucking jack shit about the SMES's other than "leedle ee battery"
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>>188900598
The engineers that gloat about wiring to grid and other people bitch about, produce well more than enough power to just set the SMES to 200/200.
>>188900778
http://ss13.moe/wiki/index.php/Station_Engineer#Configuring_SMES
>>
You don't need to be a repo patrician, but if you opt to be a wiki plebian you do need to ahelp. >>188900778
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>>188900598
okay so how do you wire to the grid, just forego the in/out of the SMES's?

>>188901013
>>188901046
I'm just dicking around in my single instance, but >mathautism just for electricity to feed into a fucking battery
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>>188901138
The station is full of wires. Just connect the engine to any wire on the other side of the SMES, don't wire through the SMES at all.
This will also kill anyone who gets electrocuted by doors.
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>>188901395
neat, that should power my singleplayer instance for more than 15 fucking minutes.
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>>188901461
You could just use admin secrets to power everything, you know.
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>>188901461
/obj/machinery/power/battery/smes/infinite
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>>188901707
funnily, every time I tried to wire that smes into the grid it just doesn't accept the power output.

>>188901580
I thought that was just for adminbussing shit like powergrid failure and rescinding powergrid failure?
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>>188901772
Debug verbs
Free power
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>>188901919
oh shit, debug.
cool.
>>
>poly acid a vampire at round end
>kills him in three sprays
woah if i knew it was that strong i wouldve done it to the trader
>>
poor fucking rocco
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>tfw drowning in phazon
thank you based chadbot
>>
>>188902308
The main problem about killing a vamp is actually hitting him before he goes bat form/glares you
>>
Chad borg is the best borg
>>
She has harsh aryan features and a stern look on her face.
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>>188902598
>2560
>aryan
Reminder that in the future, everyone will be mulattos or chinks.
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>>188902442
yeah, I sorta wish that there was items that could block glare and screech.
>>
Very surprised there was no cargo fuelled lynch mob when sec just stopped pretending they're not vampires.
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>>188892139
Are you that chemist that always makes 30+ pils of most medicines? You don't need that much for most of the shit, it's much easier to make one batch of everyhing and then restock once something goes below some threshold (like 10)(medbay changes every round, one time keloderm will be eaten 20 pills a second while another round it's ethyl which gets chewed through. Medicate based on the round rather than trying to catchall for it).

And don't fall into the trap of making too much iron. It's handy, but not amazing, 10-12 should be maximum you make for the start
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>>188902915
>Earmuffs
>Stab your eyes out with a screwdriver

You a bitch or something?
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>>188902915
If you carry the nullrod vamps near you get sick like in the chapel
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>>188903045
Yeah I am. So have the initial batches then plan accordingly to what people might need? Sounds good. thanks.
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>>188903109
Eh. Even if that works as you say (I doubt it), it takes a good enough while to kick in that I've not seen it. Setting aside that the null rod doesn't even confer immunity to glare, thrall, screech.
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>>188902915
Sunglasses blocking glare, when?
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So why dont you like /TG/? Because userbase? Because they are a bastardized version of what they once were? Metagamers? Powergamers? Faggots?
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>[15:41:49]ACCESS: Failed Login: Darkman737 2834182490 [IP CENSORED] - Banned
Reason: You, or another user of this computer or connection (darkman737) is banned from playing here. The ban reason is:
(MANUAL BAN) Killing a Janiborg for no reason, when i tell him i'm giving him a ban he says "uh no, you ain't" and logs off. Feel free to appeal it on the forums after a few days.
This ban was applied by senaat1 on 2013-09-26 15:53:21
Ban type: PERMABAN
Expires: The ban is for 1 minutes and expires on 2013-09-26 15:53:21 (server time).
For more information on your ban, or to appeal, head to http://ss13.moe/forum/viewforum.php?f=5
>People permad 4 years ago still try to join
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>>188906872
There is no escape.
>>
>>188906768
I get graphical errors when I try to log in there so I don't play there, and also TG codebases seem kinda laggy
>>
>>188906768
The constant 40 minute rounds.
Also it seems like the coders break basic things all the time.
>>
>>188906768
Is this post a study in how to ask the same question multiple ways?
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>rob dundle got permaed
I feel vindicated for telling him he was a shitter in deadchat last week
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>>188906768
They grief harder than the fucks we have here, rounds go for 30 minutes at most due to murderboning/bored greyshits.

You've got time to breath on /vg/, TG is pure chaos, the bad kind.
>>
There is literally nothing wrong with making a ragecage as MoMMI
>>
There is literally nothing wrong with spacing the AI as a MoMMI
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>>188907672
There is literally nothing wrong with cloning dead bodies as a MoMMI.
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>>188907293
4noraisin?
>>
There is literally nothing wrong with emagging your fellow MoMMi's as a MoMMi
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>>188908184
Fun fact:
KEEPER MoMMIs have a lockout specifically blocking them from using emags on other MoMMIs.
>>
>walk off arrivals shuttle
>nuke and a dead body 2 squares from the door

whatcouldgowrong.gif
>>
><B>Total money trasferred:</B
How did noone ever notice its misspelled?
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>>188894256
That's how it should have remained.
>>
>>188908697
Was that added recently?
I remember a MoMMI emagging another MoMMI some time ago
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>>188909138
It's a few years old but for all I know there are, or were, ways around it.
>>
>>188909138
Only thing they can't do is emag themselves. Pretty sure.
>>
>>188908138
i only skimmed his ban appeal but it seems he has been a bad boy
>>
>>188909138
an emagged mommi can emag mommis
>>
>>188913172
At that time, they were both unemagged when the first emagged the second. There was a minor tizzy about it.
>>
>Hurricane Irma on its way to Orlando (again)
I want to go home and play Space, lads
>>
>>188908971
Its intentional. Like "Nanotrasen" instead of "Nanotransen" :^)
>>
:
^
(
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>>188913525
>nanotraNsen
>:^(
>>
>>188913876
nothing wrong with supporting nandotransen, unless you're a syndicrate
>>
NanoTRANSen
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>>188914319
What does NaNoTraSen stand for, anyway?
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>Nano
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>>188914498
NT goes all the way back to Exadv1's lore. Go ask him, https://www.reddit.com/user/exadv1
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>>188915213
>black on indigo
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Ban the fucking HoP
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>>188915590
>blue is indigo
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>>188915590
>indigo
Get your eyes checked nigger
>>
RED TEXT
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1sRAd_i2W4
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Vampire did a good job juking the mechs.
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I want my medal captain
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I thought you had to be uncuffed to get greentext on escape alive and free.
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>You're watching: Vampstended<
>Only on /vg/station<
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>go to break into engineering to steal some wires
>it's already open
>singulo set to 2
>disassemble the AP and walk out of there
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>>188916108
seems to be bugged
I got it the other round, even when I was bucklecuffed to a shuttle brig chair.
>>
>>188916164
Sorry dude, it's a hustle getting blood near the round start, especially when the HoP steals your hypospray
>>
>>188916195
good job man that singulo was stage 4 when you did it
>>
>>188916108
Either uncuffed or not on the shuttle brig turf.
>>
>recently upgraded to a 1080ti
>can finally play spess on the highest settings
Good luck trying to robust me with half my framerate, losers.
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>>188917002
you just want to see erp in hd do you?
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>>188906768
Lifetime non-negotiable blood pact against Errorage and all known associates.
Also their code sucks and a lot of their github/administrative clowns get on my nerves, Oranges in particular.
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>>188908971
>>
>that TG host(?)/admin that changed metroids to a thing that had their names
fucking erros man
>>
>HoP last round literally stole every single antag theft item in the game and put it in his locker, from blueprints to fucking advanced magboots.
>pretended that this is somehow somewhere a reasonable way to play ss13.
>PM: Goldsteel/(Hannibal Lecter)->David samathy/(Persh Green): Do not do this.
>>
>>188908989
It's true that more departments having access to hardsuits hurts muh immerziun when people never take the damn things off. For example, I have never seen an engineer in their yellow jumpsuit.
>>
>>188919354
Or miners that finished with their shift, just doesn't happen. There's some shitter captains and paramedics out there too. The penalty for hardsuits should be heavier.
>>
>>188919186
Well that's just common sense. Goldsteel or not, any admin should do the same to deny powergaming like that.
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>>188919186
Happycat and I did some logdiving and bitched to the admins on Discord.

Since this is apparently a repeat performance, he should probably be permaheadbanned though.
>>
>>188919186
Was Ian in the locker?
>>
>>188919503
On a lot of other servers (specifically TG code) hardsuit speed is a bit more than our magboots speed and that doesn't stop anyone from cosplaying Isaac Clarke
>>
>>188919509
Its the height of powergaming that shows very clear intent to be a complete shitter for the duration of the round and could have easily fucked up a round. A simple "lol dont do it" seems like a tiny bit too gentle
>>
>>188920206
no, the height of powergaming is activating the roundstart emergency donk pockets chef has on code green
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>>188920318
>You wanna put a BANGIN donk on it.
>>
>traders get a box of sink pockets in their backpack at roundstart

NERF
>>
>>188920431
>leaving autocorrect on
>>
>>188919724
He is probably from some deathmatch server where that kind of dumbass behaviour is king. Admins just need to be a bit more clear in why exactly what he did was bad instead of specifically saying the thing he did was bad.
>>
>>188920431
>taking more away from the crutch traders
deport all vox out mass drivers naked
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>>188920580
duck you
>>
>>188888830
I didn't leave though
>>
>>188867370
Hey man.
Sorry for the late reply I went to sleep right after posting it, I was super tired.
But yeah, I was trying to do one of these "take a sprite and make your representation of it" but I always go too far and the results always look nothing like the model, so I just said "fuck it", doesn't help that cult sprite are something difficult to discern what is what, but it's good practice regardless.

Thanks for the compliment man.
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>Rob Dundle was ban evading
wew
glubs + toolbelt lawyers confirmed for biggest shitters on the server
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Did that paradise refugee start his brig medical alt title yet?

>>188921141
I really need to work on the clerical jobset access audit. Lawyertide must die.
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>>188921271
take away maint from IAA and alt titles
I've been saying this for months
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>>188921271
https://github.com/vgstation-coders/vgstation13/issues/10291
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>>188921141
wait rob dundle got fucking banned? what did he do? that dude was my lawyer once
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>>188921391
The only reason Im hesitant to remove maint access is IAA inspection into Cargo requires access through maintance backdoor.
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>>188921963
>balancing around bugs
just give them access through the front door
>>188921824
idk, he was a shitter, read his ban appeal
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>>188921824
Old CKEY was perma-banned for greytide. New CKEY was temp-banned for OC IC.

>>188921141
I don't think he realized he was evading though?
He played on a different key on a different server for a while, and was confused about what CKEY was banned when he made the appeal.
There's no much to go by, but I get the impression he forgot about the other CKEY.
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>evasion attempts
>none
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>>188922196
>backdoor entry is a bug
Ive never thought of it as a bug. Backdoor gets them into the bay, not the office where the supply console is, so its never seemed like a bug to me.
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>>188922618
except they can just walk into anyway from the cargo bay
they can even operate the cargo bay computer
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>mfw evading a ban for blacktiding
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>>188920351
you w you wah a put ah bhunging duncunny
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>>188921141
>glubs + toolbelt lawyers confirmed for biggest shitters on the server

How I do it, because sooner or later you're gonna be in a situation where you need tools to get out: Put set of tools and glubs in a slim-belt, and equip and de-equip as necessary. (You can make slim-belts via your Botany access). As time passes, the station will eventually degrade, with trash everywhere and rooms with no pressure or air. At that point you'll be running on internals anyway, so you can just permanently keep your belt on at that point and no one should mind.
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>>188924198
But why do you need glubs?
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>>188924421
I can only see myself needing glubs if I'm latejoining and I want the test wire for emergencies with 3.3 gorillian gigawats running through the wires with power setup by asimov engiborgs. Once you have the test, you can just toss out the glubs unless you want to repair Ghetto Bar into a lawyer-themed bar I guess.
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>>188924198
yeah, if you're going to glub up as IAA, at least keep that shit in your backpack instead of advertising that you are a massive shitter
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>>188922858
Pretty sure the last time I was in cargo the door buzzed at me but i rarely leave the bridge anymore i could be mistaken.
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>>188924672
You can test the wires without glubs if you have remote signallers or a crowbar.
Takes a bit longer, but it's just as safe.
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Tangent, but: I can see a legitimate case for specifically the Warden to have glubs.

>Perma prisoner busts open window to Execution room leaving a shocked grille
>Have to VERY VERY CAREFULLY secure the perma prisoner without getting grille shocked like a clown

I wish we could just get rid of shocked grilles already (In the default station architecture, not as a feature entirely.) It just seems so silly to me that we would build them at all seeing as you can just use the shards of glass to get around the issue. Which is entirely realistic, but I'd rather just have a normal grille that's slightly tougher.
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>>188924198
As an IAA I never wear glubs, even if I know I can easily find them. If absolutely necessary I'll have them but won't wear them around. I usually grab a pair of black gloves if I'm roleplaying that I'm from "the Bureau" and pretending that the IAA is anything more than a glorified clerk.

Keep a slim belt on hand with tools in your backpack. Learn the test wire. Most of the time you shouldn't be using this knowledge until you decide there is no choice but for you to act - at which point you're breaking the rules of your own job, more so than for most other departments because you are meant to observe and report (or if a lawyer, argue cases).

I personally think it's fine to play as someone who thinks they could solve the problems in the station 10 times better than the rest of the crew, but your job is specifically to act as a release valve on whatever abuses of power might happen and as a mediator between various parties. The guide for being an IAA puts emphasis on the fact that you are meant to investigate complaints and things that are out of line with space law and standard operating procedure.
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>>188925412
Enter, flash, tase everyone, drag someone out, flash again, tase again, store in another cell, repeat.
Or just flash, tase everyone, shove everyone against the grille, ask R&D for a cloner.
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>>188924773
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>>188926226
That should all be opposite, IAAs shouldnt be poking around maintenance or out back without cooperation or authority backing them up
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>>188926226
This looks like a floorplan for some kind of IAA-ops team on a special mission to get more toner cartridges because the QM isn't accepting their request forms
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>>188926372
exactly, it's retarded
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>>188926226
I see. Its been about a month since Ive been in any cargo outside of looting the autolathe on packed so my memory is clearly deficient.
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>>188926226
DELET
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>>188926226
just a note, I made the computer a green star because IAAs can approve orders and send the shuttle
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As written, redtext. But the guy I was inside had the HOS's jumpsuit and I was inside the guy who was inside the shuttle. Technically greentext.
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>>188926578
How close was the salt to drying yah up?
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>>188926710
Never less than 40% and that was a dick move.
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>>188926710
>borer escargot
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>>188926748

Nonhuman getting in the way of orders, and then dragging around a shard generally tends to set off Asimov borgos.

You did good though. That was pretty funny to watch. Clown got the better of the borg like 3 times because of you.
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>>188926896
I was laughing my ass off that entire round, Especially the clown screaming about being taken hostage by his own arm while running around with a shard behind him.
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>een talking about being a bugged borer everywhere episode
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>>188926578
Fix it and make a pull request.
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>>188926884
>escargot
Why would borers be the french word for snails ?
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>>188927440
slug relation?
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>>188845160
So whats the consensus on this idea? If the anon interested doesnt produce a pull, I wouldnt mind doing one for a paramedic alt title. It seems like a "combat medic" style paramedic could be interesting and simple enough to add.
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>>188928269
if para medic is for transport of patients, what kind of medic is an officer medic? brig physician sounds gay and lame
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medical liaison officer when
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>>188928420
Literally someone whose job it is to go out and retrieve downed officers, then either help them out in the field or bring them back to either the brig or medbay. Something to make it so that rounds where medbay is potaters doesn't mean nobody gets healed ever.
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>>188928590
>I want to make even more people do the job of paramedics
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>>188928420
Brig medic.
But it's just a paramedic with a different title and a loyalty implant. Personally I would make it a paramed alt title (and no starting implant since that seems like powercreep to me.)
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>>188928639
Hell, I end up doing the paramedics job as bridge officer simply because most paramedics, when you even get them at all, dont do their job past a certain point.
If a security focused paramedic is what it takes to get new or more competent blood into the role, its worth it to me.
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>mfw I've seen plauge suffering in /tg/
Why is it dull without a turboshitter?
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>>188928880
Sounds dumb at this point I think we're getting too into the titles that we can create and not the ones that make sense to be created.
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I think instead of adding more alt tiltes (that have different access), we should be encouraging players to seek specific job changes/alterations through IC interactions, wiki guide advice, and gay long winded threadposts. It makes those special jobs more rare or interesting due to the random nature of player interactions and also makes the HoP job more worth playing.

I believe 5 rounds where the HoP is a shitter and doesnt help and then 1 round where you get the special job you like is MUCH better than 6 rounds of that special niche job allowing it to become stale.
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Why does tg have gondola and we don't?
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>>188928930
They "don't do their job" because they've been obsoleted by telescience and medbay lobby CMC, and half the station ignores suit sensor reminders. Borgs, scientists, the AI, and literally everyone on the station with better access than them (not hard) and free time are all better at doing their jobs. They could also be busy in medbay because there isn't enough medical personnel. The answer isn't powercreeped alt titles that make the original job objectively worse.
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>>188929013
I dont think relying on HoP to drive narrative and gameplay is that reliable or fun. We seriously have a lack of good HoP players, and lately Ive seen very few HoPs outside of primetime in general.

Giving players a chance to find a niche that suits them is critical to player retention, as is new content, and alt titles are easy, quick ways to drive that.

I dont think we should go nuts with them, because that DOES limit the interactive nature of the job line, but there are roles that give something interesting at a low manpower cost and that should be pursued when we can.
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>>188929245
Gondola is too innocent and pure for Spacemens, do you really wish him the pain of living on a space station filled with bloodthirsty psychopaths who'd probably stuff him in a washing machine, just to watch him die?
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>>188929465
>new content
>necessary
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>>188929531
>new content
>not necessary
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>>188928639
I thought we agreed this was going to be an alt-title for Paramedic?
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>>188929479
>stuff him in a washing machine, just to watch him die
Gondola accepts this.
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>>188928880
roundstart implant reduces autotator chance as well as preventing conversions
not gonna trust some snowflake doc to inject me otherwise without it
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>>188929648
>I want free healing with no added risk
Of course you do. Doesn't necessarily mean it's good for the game.
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>>188929648
Pretty sure autotraitor checks for roles, not implants.
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>dead pop
>the only time I can win as an antag
Feels good to walk into the chief engineers office, steal a hard suit, set the singularity to the destroy the station, and walk away without anyone even seeing anything
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>>188929620
Thats what I figured as well. Not sure what the issue is with a paramedic that stands in the brig opposed to one that stands in medbay if they do the same job.
As for implants, I dont agree with roundstart implant changes to paramedic. Converting medical personnel is an important tactic in getting rid of officers due to sps use. It should be call the warden or command makes at a point in the round, not automatically given.
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>>188929948
but what's the point if only 8 other people will witness it?
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>>188929948
Good job at "winning", retard

I'm sure it was immensely satisfying
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>>188930006
>needing others to validate yourself

I bet you static name
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>>188929948
>lowpop singloose
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>>188929948
>>188930052
Randoms, everyone.
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>>188929948
>loosing in dedpop
Im at work and even Im salty youd do that.
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>>188929989
Yeah, keeping paramedics from having roundstart loyalty implants is a good idea. That way if sec is dumb enough not to implant them when shit starts going down, they have to worry about whether or not their paramedic pal is subverted.
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>>188930026
It felt good.

>>188930082
Yeah, I should of stolen the suit, then roleplayed with the 6 other people for the next 6 hours because vgstation is clearly the home to the most involved roleplayers.
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>>188930169
>duuuh, fuck roleplay, VG is a NO-ROLEPLAY server, GREENTEXT NOT ERP OK
Why not go play on TG or Hippie, you massive faggot?
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>>188930052
>literally needing validation from ez mode antag greentext

wew lad cmon
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>>188929752
if a paramedics wants to be a brig doctor he should ask the HoP or just talk to sec about it
if I want healing I patch myself up or go to medbay, ideally the warden would take over the brig medbay in times of emergency
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>>188929948
I was there, The replacement CE watched you do it, said you emagged his locker, etc.
You somehow failed to be stealthy on deadpop.
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>>188929465
This is a bit of chicken or egg thing, but I reckon most HoPs being shit is due to good players not playing them due to the job not having much fun to it. Taking away potential fun from HoP by coding snowflake alt titles seems extremely backwards to me. We shouldn't be coding to make HoP further obsolete.

Encouraging alt-title jobchanges will attract better players to play HoP. Better HoP players will encourage more crewmembers to ask for more interesting niche jobs. And as I said before, leaving shit like brig doctor, butler, puzzaguy, maid, waiter, space adventurer, etc as IC interaction-only makes them much more special and interesting when they are played.
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>>188930169
>the only alternative to singoloosing lowpop and tucking yourself in some pod is the other autistic extreme
wow nice argument pal, you're good at this
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>>188930169
Lowpop is the perfect time to do exactly that. I dont know why you think forcing a long boring loading period and reset on others is worth it so they can promptly ignore your greentext.
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>>188930235
I like to roleplay, I really do, but the people on this server don't really play along. If you try to type anything you get slipped farted on and your shoes stolen.
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>>188930285
>want to be a pizza guy
>HoP doesn't exist
>have to bug the Captain

>want to be a pizza guy
>HoP does exist
>isn't at his desk because only one person per five rounds ever wants to have an ID change
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>>188930235
>>188930169
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>>188930326
I RP all the time on /vg/
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>>188930280
Actually I was the CE, and I was the traitor. The HoS promoted me from cargo to Chief Engineer after I asked.

I just saw him in my office and pinned the blame on him.
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>>188930285
>duh just make other people REQUIRE you to do your job it will work out then
Just a coincidence that Science and Cargo are the two most consistently absent and autistic departments despite people relying on them
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>there are more people complaining about singuloose and low rp in this thread RIGHT NOW than readied up for the next round

Really makes you think
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SPS are a mistake and it's now too late to rectify it
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>>188930376
>want to play a niche role
>hop says lolno
>go braindead
>dont bother to log back in after repeated failures to play what you want to

Like I said, HoP isnt reliable enough a mechanic for this sort of thing.

Not to say lets add pizza guy alt titles, but I do see a value in certain niche roles always being accessible.

The real solution the the HoP issue is that they need more content other than "line wrangler" and "hopcurity".

>>188930648
Roundstart SPS are cancer. Should be gated behind research.
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>>188930648
>SPS has been removed in (Space)
>SPS has been removed in (Maintenance)
so useful
so power creep
too op
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>>188930376
>be assistant
>don attire
>do it, anyway
>greytide their office if they don't tip
ez pz
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>>188930376
>>188930737
The fact that you would only occasionally get pizzaguy/brigdoctorparameddude means the job doesn't get boring/stale too quickly. Part of ss13 is not getting what you want everytime you want it.
>>188930457
People complaining about no-science or no-cargo is preferrable to making those two departments obsolete through code. Relying on players not being retarded isn't the best solution to any problem, but it's worth it when players aren't retarded.
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>>188931110
Reminder to bully chefs by making them obsolete
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>>188930737
>research is a timegate
>>188930457
>nobody does research

SCIENCE OVERHAUL:
Autholathes track how old they are and gain recipes accordingly.
RD can swipe his ID on an autholathe to disable recipes.
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>>188930648
just chloral and monkey
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>>188930989
>not remembering fore/port/aft/starboard so you know where that maintenance SPS is going off at
DUCKING CASUAL
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>>188931262
>DUCKING
Dricking phoneposters, I swear.
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>>188931262
dumbass, half the maps maints are just 'maint' only box has them properly labeled
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>>188931194
>roundstart qm
>see chef on manifest
>order ten pizza crates and send them to each department including the kitchen
Is this the highest form of non-antag antagonism?
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>>188931514
That's wrong.

t. mapper
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>>188931579
A true chef doesn't want to cook for the crew anyway, their creations are to be displayed on the inner counter out of reach of hungry crewmen
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>>188931579
>Only 10
>Only pizza
you should order 20 fruit crates, 10 pizza crates and 20 XLs and 20 normals, Load up all the burgs, fries and sodas on one table, cut pizza on another, and on the last put the fruit. all of it.
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>>188931110
You assume people not getting what they want will still want to play at all.
If there is no cargo tech, warden, iaa or chaplain slot open, 9 times out 10 Im just going to immediately log out.
Im not the only one.
If other roles could be made more appealing, I might try them out. Alt titles give that option. Obviously you dont go overboard with them, but a few additional ones isnt going to obsolete anything and gives incentive to play.

>>188930989
The issue with sps isnt the location, its announcement of the death. It makes suit sensors and crew monitoring obsolete, fucking over stealth antags and paramedics.
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>>188931671
Sweet Sundae Ramen
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>>188931713
Stealth antags are bad anyway

No one has ever had a memorable game of "pretend to be a normal crewman for 2 hours while occasionally parastinging someone and spacing the body"

We should remove objectives because they create retard antags who believe more in greentext than interesting rounds
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>>188931671
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>>188931876
Parapening is equally cancer. Theres just not that many options outside of it, and SPS just serves to limit interesting gimmicks even further.
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>>188931250
>lol just casually walk into medbay, the most crowded place in the station and grab monkeypricks
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>>188931713
Anon.
Just strip them somewhere and then run elsewhere.
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>>188931876
If you want interesting antag gimmicks remove validhunting
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>>188932234
Never.
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>>188932221
>bothering to strip
>not just beheading and spacing the head
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>>188929948
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>>188931876
I'd be more willing to 'go loud' and have a high profile, if the combat was more intuitive than 1 click stun GG.

I don't have any idea how one could even touch how combat works, without fucking up the entire game, so I suppose it's just low profile traitor for me.
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>buy brass knuckles, equip them
>begin murderboning
>no matter what I target, mouth, head, chest, my punches don't knock people's teeth off
>"You don't have the dexterity to do this!" while wearing them

Is this the worst antag item? Shit.
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>>188932330
Then I will continue to stealth antag and play extended when my objectives are done
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>>188932593
It's actually pretty simple to refactor stuns into something that makes the combat more interesting, other servers have had the common sense of doing it. The validhunter outcry on vg would prevent that from ever happening here though.
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>>188932796
Are you referring to bay's fatigue stun?
didn't use it enough to form a solid opinion on it.
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>>188932725
Not my problem you're shit/uncreative.
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>>188932796
I don't think any of those refactors was well received
By the way that's not what refactor means
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>>188932708
I feel as if Detomatrix cartridge has that title still.
unless they adjusted the RNG of it.
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>>188932967
Detomatrix is saved from being the worst simply because it's quacking hilarious in double agent
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>>188931713
I should clarify, I'm not against new alt titles in general (I really like the doc ones we have now), I'm just against new alt tiltes that give new access, because I believe that's the HoP's job to deal with. I believe jobs like I mentioned should be emergent, not sought after.

Players logging out because they don't get what they want or whatever is an ss13 issue.
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>>188932967
If anything has a "chance of failure" I drop that shit harder than hiroshima bomb so if it still has that, then yeah detomatix is worse.
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>>188932708
>>188932967
has anyone ever used snappop smokebombs ever ever
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>>188933265
I used to see them used. Get the thermals with them and they're not bad.
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THREAD DIES NOW
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>>188933409
NO
NOOOOOOOOOO
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Last for FUCK YOU DUNY
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>>188933389
>Get the thermals with them and they're not bad.
Shit, that's clever
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>>188933069
>>188933045
>>188932967
>Not using detomatrix on the clown and mime at roundstart
>Or using it to gib stunned people
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>>188933048
I not even sure there is currently a mechanic for different access based on alt titles. Ive not noticed any current job using such a thing and I dont think the access field per job entry accepts "ifs and thens", or atleast I dont see any examples of it.
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>>188932023
Tip: you don't have to murderbone the sec team first before you do a gimmick, this sounds like heresy to the stealthtag ears I know

It turns out that there are actually tons of people on the crew who don't carry one! Not to mention even if you happen to glare someone carrying one you can just bat away or whatever. Who would've thought.
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last for Fuura!
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last for RP is overrated
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Last to state that traps are infact gay
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Last to state the fact, that if Hitler won 9/11 would not of happened.
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Last for I think it's time we let the thread die for good
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Last
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>tfw cant inject chems on those snapbox smokebombs
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>>188932593
I had an idea for combat that changed how targeting works, instead of clicking at the direction or sprite in combat mode it would instead focus around the 8 tiles around you, when in combat mode your mouse would direct which tile you want to attack from. So for example if you wanted to attack someone to your right you would enable the combat system and use the highlighter to target the tile your enemy is on.

the pic explains it a lot better

thoughts?
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>>188933771
oh my eyes
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Last post, the final waifu post, to confirm that indeed all waifus are shit apart from Reica Carter~
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>>188933771
I wouldn't get to laugh at those who accidentally rip tiles fighting with a crowbar and get stoned to death with them/10
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Your waifu a shit
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>>188933771
Not sure about the idea.
I don't see targeting as an issue that needs touched.
More so considering alternatives to the 1 shot stun dominating combat, rendering non stun weapons to gimmicks.
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Last for you guys know it's still like 5 minutes until archive
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All waifus but me are shit

---the random namer girl
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>>188933934
>girl
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>>188933771
You'd be taking fun out of the game by doing that. Like like your better armed opponent shocking themselves on a cable while fighting in maint.
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>>188933907
I think targeting is part of the issue along with combat mostly focusing on stuns. But where do you start to fix it? Should a different system be used or should you simply engage in violent combat until your opponent falls down due to losing stamina and being injured too much? Stuns are pretty integral to combat so what do we do to replace and fix it?
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>deffmed rework finished
duny is madman
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>>188933997
>shocking themselves on a cable while fighting in maint.
>implying people don't already do that

I bet you disable stage hazards in fighting games fag
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>>188933997
The amount of times that has saved my ass is simply amazing.
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>>188934053
You got the opposite message from what I was sending.
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#last
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>>188934108
No
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>>188934024
>gigantic open black square
MY EYES
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>>188934132
I like it
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In colonial marines why do some larva evolve so much faster right at the start? Like I'm not even half way done when some smart mouth faggot runner is talking in hivemind
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>>188934018
> or should you simply engage in violent combat until your opponent falls down due to losing stamina and being injured too much?

that would be neat, for a short while, then it'd just get old.
But to try to answer your question, I don't know.
As you said, stuns are too deeply embedded into the game for any change to be taken lightly. Only other alternative I've seen used is the fatigue stun.
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>dfw hurricane lets me go home early
>dedpop is turboded
Fug
>>
Last for me
Go me
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How about making stuns not drop you to the floor, but instead making you drop items and paralyze for a few seconds?

This way combat isn't stun -> GG and if cops have to arrest, one has to keep the perp stunned with the baton while the other cuffs, actually encouraging officer cooperation.
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Last for maids
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>mfw someone doesn't understand the true robustness and versatility of a locker
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>>188934556
Or when they don't realize the life saving potential of 'rest'
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If this is the last post I will fix the advanced sec cameras.
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>>188934219
double evo point gain on weeds as larva
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>>188934219
Are you staying on the plasma weeds? I'm not familiar with CM code specifically but almost every codebase with xenos you get double larva evo points on the weeds.
>>
>>188934610
>shittag shoots memegun at me
>hit rest
>get up and shoot them in the ass when they run past
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>>188934654
Damn, do it anyway
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>>188934219
Was going to guess "don't hide" and "stay on weeds" but it sounds like it's weeds.
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>>188934687
>mfw doing this to avoid getting arrested
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>>188934687
>>188934809
>get chloralprick'd
>hit rest
>antag is obviously bad, doesn't cuff or strip me and just drags me around
>regain conscience, get up and fuck his shit

never ghost right away kids
>>
Ss13 combat is fine because it's so bad that nobody but true autists will consider it the focus of the game
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last for the new janitor alt title
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>>188935036
I still actually want 10 to be a thing
>>
>>188934710
Only if this is the last last post
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>>188935024
Honestly if SS13 combat didn't have instant takedowns, antags would go even MORE autistic stealth because they'd be too spaghetti to try to takedown a victim
>>
>>188935024
It's a vital part of the focus of the game.
>>
>all this last posting and no baking
>>
>>188935118
last
>>
>>188935101
Instant take down capability shouldn't be removed in full. IE: Chloral Syringe Gun.

Just a rework of tasers/electrodes
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>>188935106
Its badness is vital to the flow of the game
>>
Making hand tasers pump action when?
>>
>>188935202
What about a stun bar that slows you down as it progresses, eventually leading to being on the floor as it does now. How would that inpact the pace
>>
>we've been lastposting for 40 fucking minutes
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>>188935308
Isn't that essentially what bay had with their stun fatigue
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LAST AND FINAL
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Remember when Science used to make 400 AEGs per round?
Crazy
>>
>>188935352
Every time I try to make a thread, my upload gets stuck in sys.4chan.org.

Here's the paste I made to do it yourself if you feel brave enough.

------------------

Last Thread: >>188811062

Do not neglect Runtime! Edition

Last time on /ss13g/ - spessmen on a spess station:
> Duny added something to his shit map or something
>SPS still cancer
>Mass WFU stock drop due to disappeareances
>Alt titles are a big frickin deal

>What is Space Station 13?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHH1vfY6HTA [Embed]
http://pastebin.com/VNcX2Quc

>New player guide
http://ss13.moe/wiki/index.php/The_Basics
http://ss13.moe/wiki/index.php/General_Help

>BYOND client
http://byond.com/download/build/LATEST/

>Pomf Serbian, main /vg/station server
byond://game.ss13.moe:7777

>Test server
byond://ss13.moe:1337

>Public server list
http://byond.com/games/exadv1/spacestation13

>How do I connect to the servers?
Hit the cogwheel in the upper right corner of the BYOND hub and pick "Open Location"

>/vg/station forum and logs + Discord circlejerk
http://ss13.moe/forum/
http://game.ss13.moe/logs
https://discord.gg/HQA4Mhm

>Map renders collection: updated sometimes
http://game.ss13.moe/minimaps/images/maps/

>Coderbus, here!
https://github.com/d3athrow/vgstation13
@rizon #coderbus @rizon #vgstation
https://discord.gg/nfmjc56

>Cryo Autism
http://pastebin.com/raw/YmAyagUa

>Round Stats
http://stats.ss13.moe/

>SS13 booru for all your SS13 images!
http://ss13.booru.org/

>How To Install BYOND: The Video Tutorial: The Movie
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-iWiZwv9f1o [Embed]

>Nostalgia
https://boards.fireden.net/vg/search/text/ss13g/
http://ss13.moe/index.php/bans

>OP Pastebin
http://pastebin.com/raw/z7czw5WQ
>>
>>188935462
FIRST FOR HUSBANDO
>>
>>188935462
First for Kayahi is my husbando!
>>
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>>188935540
>>188935610
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4th for tfw no jill bartender
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>>188935462
FOURTH FOR FUCK YOU DUNY
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>>188935741
feels bad man
>>
>>188933486
I thought bridge officer was an IAA alt with added extra access. Hypothetical brig doc would be a doc with extra sec access or sec officer with extra medbay access. These are the situations where I would prefer HoP use rather than code. I haven't seen BO because I haven't played for a week, maybe it would be too much of a stretch to make work using HoP.

I guess the reason I argue my position is because as a player I would rather chance it and go through HoP to get muh cool niche job because I like to feel like a spessman taking extra work for extra pay or aomething.
>>
>>188936050
BO has same access as IAA and Lawyer
>>
>put all my hope into one WFU
>they disappear

I'M BROKE
>>
I'm too lazy to make a new thread so let's just all migrate here
it will be funny, trust me
>>188933506
>>188933506
>>188933506
>>
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>>188936207
It's over, man. Scrounge whatever you have left and invest on a husbando, they're all the rage now.
>>
>>188936109
Oh, well I'm dumb. Next I'm gonna find out nobody actually suggested alt titles with different access and I've been arguing for over an hour over nothing.
>>
>>188936286
We have the most posts of any thread on the board, lets KEEP THIS SHIT GOING. WE DA BEST.
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>>188936317
To infinity
And byond
>>
>>188936317
I heard if a thread gets enough posts, it gets promoted to /v/
>>
>>188936378
>>188936379
I heard an ancient rumor that if you get 1000 posts mods will stick you.

Onwards to stickydom and glory
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>You wake up in a dark maint hallway with these 3 stood over you chanting in an unknown language
>You have ONE regular item from your job

What do?
>>
>>188936460
You already posted this once

This isn't Reddit, make some original content instead of reposting you low-hanging-fruit shitter. You couldn't even find another picture of a fucking anime girl on a site for weebs?

Fucking hell mate.
>>
>>188936460
I honk at them with my bike horn. very carefully, one for each of them
>>
>>188936460
First person to make a new threadnwoth their ckey attached gets headmin.
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>>188936254
Don't actually take over another general you madmen
>>
>>188936568
If it isn't obvious dumbass, no one can make new threads. Which is why we are going to ride this thread to GLORY.

TOP OF THE BOARD BBY
>>
>>188933506
>>188933506
zozzle, it's happening
migrate here
>>
>>188936617
>post in another generals thread
>get banned
>post in this general which cant be deleted since posting new threads is broked
>dont get banned

Hmmm
>>
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>>188936505
How would you know what reddit is like unless you use reddit?
return at once to reddit, redditchan.
>>
>>188936460
swing pickaxe wildly and Run
>>
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claim your waifu/husbando!
>>
>>188936765
Top left seems nice, gib
>>
Space station 13 combat will always be bad embrace the game as the autism role-playing simulator its always been
>>
890th for gas the vox
>>
>>188935540
I want to hug_ Johnny Caldwell!
>>
>>188936598
First person to give me this mother-fucker's ckey so I can ban him gets headmin.
>>
>>188937064
his ckey is Probe1, ban him quickly and give me headmin
>>
>>188937064
His ckey is Xevonix and mine is Goldsteel
>>
I'm pretty happy to see other doctors have been saying "Welcome back" to cloned patients
I hope this becomes a regular thing
>>
>>188937104
>>188937101
;Help, I'm being astroturfed.
>>
>>188937117
>not "Rise and shine, [lastname]"
>>
>>188937064
His CKey is Pomf123, mine is 2hotdogs
>>
>>188937064
His ckey is clusterfack
>>
900 Posts, we're doing it. We're so close.
>>
>>188937148
ick ock, ban he
>>
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Can we reach the 911 milestone boys

This just feels like when admins delay the round to tell someone to ERP with them or get banned
>>
This shit is going down like the twin towers
>>
Plasmafire can't melt reinforced walls
>>
Hydrated potassium can't gib 2d spacemen
>>
Nuke ops cant take over a station, SS13 was an inside job
>>
>That one time a greyshirt came in with over 400u of Whiskey in bloodstream
Should you heal that kind of case or not
>>
post yfw realizing that ss13 is some hunger games bullshit and you're all just in a simulation murdering eachother for the crowds entertainment
>>
>>188937527
I believe this is HippieStation's official lore
>>
>>188937506
>Give him 1u water 1u potassium
>Surgery his livers to teach him patience
>>
>>188937603
>Give him 1u water 1u potassium
It didn't work, there simply was too much Whiskey
We had to empty an activated charcoal bottle on him as well as several times using 2u water 2u Potassium

It was such a pain
>>
>>188937659
Anon, until he hits 1000u 1 water 1 potas instantly removes all reagents.
Only at 1000 can it be prevented. And thats only possible by legborers inserting hardcores n shit usually.
>>
>coders incapable of doing fucking ANYTHING without turning into a scene from Mean Girls
christ alive lads get your shit together
>>
>>188937728
Mmm, then we did something very wrong.
Because we monitored his bloodstream and shit wouldn't go down
>>
>>188937818
you probably didnt put them in fast enough to properly explode.
Explode takes all the ingredients in the beaker and deletes them
people are just glorified beakers that hold up to 1000 units.
>>
>>188937818
Try 2u of each next time
>>
>>188937870
Maybe you are, asshole.

I am a real human being
>>
>>188937818
Use 2u of each so it doesn't metabolize before you feed them the second pill.
>>
>>188937913
You are two beakers, One of which contains 463 units of blood and the other which contains whatever chemicals you've been drinking that drove you to write that post.
>>
>>188937784
What are you talking about Willis?
>>
>>188937784
Great causes and little men go ill together
>>
>>188938085
https://github.com/vgstation-coders/vgstation13/pull/15912
>cluster pretends he's still relevant
>sonix sucking his dick hardcore in a shitty attempt at becoming collab
>new coder gets extremely buttflustered and goes into an autistic tirade about how his code is absolutely 100% perfect and with no flaws
it's a fucking travesty mate
>>
>>188937986
You are gonna be a whole 0 units of blood if you keep up that nerd talk
>>
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Tardigrade race when?

for layman: Tardigrades are water dwelling micro animals that are incapable of dying.
>>
>>188938143
To quote myself, I think the problem is how "passive-aggressive" and angry everyone seems to be on git
It's like they are applying 4chan mentality of anonymous bullying with names attached to it and this invariably creates grudges
>>
Is there no spookier feel than joining into a completely abandoned station?
>>
>>188938768
Joining a station that only has one other crewmember
>>
>>188938768
Joining a station with like 2-3 active people and the rest inactive
>>
>>188938143
Considering how upset he got everyone with 3 sentences of bait, it seems he's still pretty relevant.
>>
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>>188938824
>>188938854
>mfw running into another guy in the middle of Martian desert during Mars Station's deathrows
>there hasn't been another player for hours
>>
>>188938281
No, the problem is that some coders read everything with this hypersensitive view.

Unknown as dillweed is a brand new coders so he has yet to develop the mental capacity to handle banter, so he goes off on unnecessary tirade against some light banter.
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>thread still up
>>
>>188938143
>cluster posts some weak ass bait
>unknown as captain takes getting triggered to heights never seen before
>still steaming over it with 2000+ word messages a few days later

The problem is some people are just extremely immature and sensitive.
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>2 (two) hours of page 10

And it dies... now!
>>
>>188938143
Man I fucking hate this codebase
>add a pretty neat feature that has extremely minimal plausibility of getting used for nefarious means
>BUT MUH PERFECTLY CRAFTED BALANCE
>coders literally commenting only to call each other names
>passive aggressiveness out the ass
>nobody even looks at the code
>shitty community politics for no reason whatsoever
This is a fucking embarrassment
>>
>>188939329
Unknown as captain please
>>
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discordlets are laughing and saying "they'll never make it to 1000 posts"
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>>188939145
Robotnik mustache is the only good facial hair
>>
>>188939352
They truly don't know what they are talking about, the thread rules supreme
>>
>>188939351
Don't know what you are talking about but it just seems like a bunch of complete children are in charge of the future of /vg/
>>
>>188939329
Every imbalance in the game has been added as a neat little feature and then never removed because everyone cries when you remove their OP toys
See everything vox-related for a current example
Can't blame the coders for being anal at what is being added since they can't remove anything ever without months of arguing
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>>188939504
>See everything vox-related for a current example
Right down to the vox itself.
Good God.
>>
>>188939504
As though months of arguing will ever even be sufficient in getting something removed
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