/agdg/ - Amateur Game Development General

First for slowly getting it

>>188554672
Well at least it's not the short OP.

Horo is cute. CUTE.

>>188554818
Better than the chicken nonsense at least.

>>188554672
the latest GM:S update forces the editor test to have a 5 second splash screen

how do i revert to a previous version

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I can't believe this stupid idea to make this attack work, worked.

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There, that's the fifth and last angle, all that's left are pain frames.

>>188555140
wait what
you can't be serious
why aren't people up in arms about this?
why are people still even using GM?

>>188554967
playboy doesn't feature women with real wolf ears on their heads and tails coming out their spine

What is a good explosion pack for Unity?
I really like Realistic Explosions by kripto, but it's expensive and looks already too good for my game, I think.

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W E W L A D

>>188555208
You're inching at a slow but steady rate.

>>188554672
At least learn anatomy before you try to anime

>tfw became so effective at coding maps and pathfinding from scratch due how many times i had to refactor my code

>>188554672
>Anime wolf girl edition
Why? This kind of childish bullshit makes the 4chan game development community look like a fucking joke.

>>188556117
Between short OPs, chicken dinners and irrelevant bullshit, the current status quo is "piss off as much of the thread as possible".

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>>188556117
>4chan game development community

>>188556117
Not OP, but must I remind you of the hillarious chicken meme?

>>188556270
You excluded of course, silly frogposter. You have no game.

>>188549141
Card City Nights 1 and all the other previous games means the dude already has fans.

Even though CCN2 is kinda a stinker, there was a flood of people buying it because of the built up ``brand loyalty``.

>>188550191
I've got games on Steam, can confirm the numbers are massively inflated, and that's before even taking into account free keys/shitty bundles strip mining their product

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progress:
> Skull Progression System
> updated steam build
> some other stuff

Reach stage 8 to finish your run. Then you unlock difficulty skulls. Next run if you want to progress you have to have at least 1 on, and it increases as you unlock more.

So the game gets harder but you choose how

>>188554672
Woah, it's been awhile. Thanks for the pedo OP!

>>188555589
I'm bad at doing sprite work with this many angles. Plus I'm kinda dreading the BIG final thing I have to do for this update.

>>188556117
it's not like constant "artist looking for programmer" memes, enginewars, llc memeing, frogposting, animeposting and neneposting, lets player league, samefagging, posts addressed to no-one, "i've been prepping the programmer for my game all night :) i'm a little stressed, but excited!" memes, gugemposting, "tfw no gf" blogging, "This is a reminder to new devs that enginedevving for 5 years straight is the only way to win the indie race", "You have 10 seconds to explain why you aren't making a mobile/3D game", questionlizard, >circumcised devs, near-constant pretending to be retarded, "If you don't have x I will not play your game" addressed to no-one, "Post x jam game ideas!" with anime attached and other jam drama, bokuposting and other things are doing any favor to this serious 4chan game development community you're talking about

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>>188556626
This guy has a point.

>>188556626
Wow like stop trying to kill /vg/ board culture dude

>>188556626
So... Progress posting is okay?

>>188556117
thats whats good about this place

>>188556909
>board culture

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>>188556626
But the threads themselves are literal proof that doing all that bullshit actually has an audience.

>>188556945
Course.

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Let's talk game/programming design AGDG.

Is there a tried and tested method of implementing "perks"? Assuming a turn-based,grid-based RPG, with various perks such as "attacks inflict double damage when out of mana" , "move twice as many tiles when HP is lower than 50%", "character self-revives just once per combat encounter", "being attacked in melee inflicts status effect on enemy attacker", etc.
There's a lot of different things and systems being influenced, from damage to movement to status effects, so I can't exactly keep all the perks stuff in a single place. How do I keep the code from becoming a mess? Is there a better method than going all over the existing code and adding various "if" statements like
>///...Damage handling code where hp is being subtracted when character is attacked...///
>if(hasPerk("second_wind") && hp <= 0)
>{
>hp = max_hp;
>}

I really can't think of an elegant solution.

>>188557614
>game/programming design
Not this way of spelling "ideaguying" again

Reminder DESIGN isn't a real thing, it's just ideaguys trying to make their IDEAS legitimate way of gamedev.

How HYPE are you for Godot 3?
Predictions?

Video games don't exist.

>>188558213
You mean like Kojima?

>>188558441
There's no need to be hyped for something that I'm using right now.

>>188558527
Yes, his early games that were popular and great were actually made by a different guy, and when that guy left we got MGS4 and MGS5 proving he's a hack.

>>188556519
That logo is awful, I'm sorry, anon. I have nothing else to say.

>>188557725
I'm asking for programming models anon, how is that ideaguying?

>>188558648
Who was responsible for Metal Gear Rising being so good?

>>188554672
Are any musicbros planning on making mecha jam music?

So I changed to the Mental Asylum scenery:
https://fghj.neocities.org/gra8/index.htm

>>188559102
Inaba-chan.

>>188557614
Iterate through an array or whatever. When character is being hit, iterate through all perks that you added to OnBeingHitPerks array, for example. Even better, use events system, make perks subscribe to relevant events and for example when character is hit broadcast event BeingHit which will execute all subscribed code.

How does agdg feel about GDScript? Good language?

>>188559302
good for getting shit done but it's interpreted so it's slow

What is the best idea?

>>188558441
i'm need to keep support for devices that doesn't have opengl ES 3 so i don't really need it

>>188557614
You do some overloading.

>for perk in allPerks:
>perk.handle_event(eventType)

Then the overloaded perk instances trigger only when relevant and ignore all other events.

>>188559443
Actually it is compiled when you export your game to final build.
And it's not interpreted, it's bytecode-executed.

>tfw a bug that drove me crazy for the past hour was caused by objects having a negative position

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Why can't any of you compose music as good as /r9k/'s Wojak's Adventure Game?

https://soundcloud.com/wojakfeels/wojaks-adventure-blue-waltz

https://soundcloud.com/user-985755321/temper-tantrum

https://soundcloud.com/wojakfeels/wojaks-apartment

https://soundcloud.com/wojakfeels/theme-in-gb

https://soundcloud.com/wojakfeels/chipwave-looped

>>188559302
Yeah it's good. It's similar to Python, so it's easy to learn and use. It's fast enough for almost all situations, I've never run into any problems using it. But if you ever do run into slow downs from it you can use GDNative with C++ for better performance.

>>188557614
use perks as components that manipulate existent values in the parent object, example:
object:
int stamina = 10
health = 100
perk:
void update():
if parent.health < 10: stamina *= 2

then all you need to do is keep those component perks updated. a better way is have an attribute = base_attribute + bonus and have the perks manipulate only the bonus so you have the base attributes safe, it helps when you add multiple perks that modify the same attribute

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>>188559623
>tfw bugs making me mad all week long
>buy an eletric racquet
>now spend nights hunting bugs instead of deving

why does godot not have that convenient 'find in documentation on middle-click' thingie gamemaker has?

>>188560342
3.0 lets you ctrl+click stuff

>>188559448
How to find out whether an idea is good:

step 1: Write idea on a piece of paper
step 2: Put piece of paper somewhere out of sight
step 3: Forget about idea
step 4: Wait a week
step 5: Read what you wrote down on that piece of paper.

If it still sounds like a good idea then it's a good idea.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSubNj87DhU
> all these hyper light drifter clones
gross

a reminder that people made playable games in 24h jams while you still don't have anything ready for demo day 16

>>188560572
The pixel art in this is terrible compared to HLD

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>>188560687
>terrible compared to HLD
lol

>>188560342
Shift+F1 will search the documentation with whatever word the text cursor is currently on.

Getting explosions and a feel of destruction right is pretty damn difficult.

>>188560593
I've made multiple jam games ranging from 48 hours to 2 weeks.

I still don't have a demo for demo day. Making a big project is exponentially harder than a jam.

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>>188560687
non-modified image

>>188559302
>>188559934
Isn't Godot 3 getting C#?

>>188560494
That's a really nodev approach, a dev implements a prototype and can see if it will work right away.

>>188561036
Try doing that with an idea for an entire game. Prototypes are good for features. If you want to know what kind of game you want to make, I wouldn't rely on prototypes too much.

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Progress is always good.

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You're writing your game from scratch, right anon?

>>188560572
Are you trying to shill your game by pretending you hate it and then samefagging and saying it's good. I've seen you post this before. No one here gives two fucks about steam games that weren't developed by agdg.
This is not where you'll find potential buyers either.

>>188560925
They're both low-res pixel art, but HLD has a certain polish to it, while the other game looks like shit.

HLD has good colours, the other game uses a really ugly palette.

HLD has no obvious anti aliasing, while the other game does and in such low-res game it makes it look cheap and as if it was made in mspaint.

It's literally as if the devs of that other game said "HLD has 1 pixel long limbs, lets just copy that" while they missed the whole point.

>>188561027
Yeah. But C# is still a scripting language, there's probably performance increases because C# can be statically typed, but we can't know for sure until benchmarks are done. If you know C#, then you can use it, otherwise GDScript is still a valid language to learn.

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>>188560787
your are a saint anon

>>188560787
What the ding-dang diddly fucking nigger kind of shortcut is that.

I've been using Godot for a few hundred hours and I didn't fucking know that.

>>188561181
ye

>>188561107
Yep, now go and tell it to the majority of the gamedev companies on the market so they wouldn't spend so much time and money on making so many prototypes before starting production.

free game idea guaranteed to make lots of money
it's time sensitive and I'm too lazy
you play as hurricane Irma
try to do as much damage as you can before you run out of power
if you spend too much time over land you lose power and size too quickly
if you're good, you can head through the gulf of mexico and fuck up Texas which is still trying to recover from hurricane Harvey

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>>188561208
>Are you trying to shill your game by pretending you hate it and then samefagging and saying it's good.
no i just found it mentioned while i was looking for new games i could use as inspiration
>I've seen you post this before. No one here gives two fucks about steam games that weren't developed by agdg.
this isn't my game
>>188561253
how does it compare to my game

>>188561413
Your game has a nicer colour scheme and you aren't using anti aliasing like a retard, so it looks better just because of those 2 points.

Although I wouldn't call your game good looking.

>>188561506
>Although I wouldn't call your game good looking.
what's wrong with it...

>>188561321
Becaust you are stupid nigger who are too dumb to look up editor's configurable shortcuts.

>>188561635
You got me there.

>>188561363
I don't really think you know what you are talking about. The initial idea for a game isn't based on any prototypes. Once you know what you want to do, that's when you start building prototypes.

>>188561253
>>188560925
>No mention of animation
What the HECK man

>>188561571
Your animations are terrible, and low level of detail.

What about relying on intuition for designing the first prototype

Specify goals for each feature

Make said prototype

Through extensive playtesting get hard data whether features met goals or not

Keep iterating on prototype

When you get a nice spread of things different groups of people love and hate about the game

Time for production

>>188561778
>Your animations are terrible
fair point
>low level of detail
on what

>>188555641
But anatomy is haaaaard

>>188561571
different anon here, I like the look of it
but sand areas are always the worst

>>188561856
>on what

Like the whole world, it looks really samey and sterile.

Meanwhile
>>188560925
has tons of going on in the scene without reusing the same assets too heavily.

>>188561843
You can do all that research before any prototype exists though. You can do trend and target audience analysis.

>>188561669
If your initial idea can't be prototyped then you are ideaguying and have no sense of scope.

>>188561993
>muh heads on poles
so just flashier assets then and maybe more different textures

i thought you were talking about the lack of detail on the grass and trees

>>188559859
>mixing chiptune and not
Gross.

I mean these tracks are pretty good but they'd be kinda piecemeal actually placed into a game.

>>188556519
Ah yes, the classic STIJL O3AO!

>>188559859
Because I am incompetent and everything I make is shit

When will Godot 3 get a stable release?

how does music copyright work exactly? can i use a part of a tune or a melody or a beat i really liked? what about modifying it a bit?

>>188556519
>STIJL N[]+ O3AO

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>>188554672
http://www.rollingstone.com/glixel/features/splatoon-2-hideo-kojima-nintendo-japanese-games-w501322

Good article about Japanese game design vs western game desgin.

>>188562639
Don't start Waiting for Godot, now.

>>188556519
UPDATE VIDEO: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dLIVsDt6oQ
(pls subscribe to my youtube and zuck my dik)

>>188558924
nah its great, you just suck

>>188562530
>>188562895
kek

>>188562435
toby did it and everybody say undertale had a top tier ost

>>188563262
Why not?
I'm going 3D and Godot 3 is going to make much needed big improvements on the 3D engine.

instead of idly waiting for godot 3.0 you better download that alpha and report bugs

>>188562003
I'm not sure you can substitute prototyping and play testing with anything

As for Trend and Target Audience analysis it can be useful for visual design and how those effectively market your game to the right audience.

While designing your individual game mechanics around it can be very dangerous as succesful games dominate their respective market in the manner of a pareto distribution, they pretty much get all the money and potential customers while any competitor gets scraps at best.

A reason why people kept yelling indiepocalypse for a while, even though a game can be good why should I buy a relatively obscure game that looks and plays like every other platformer out there when there're well known games like Ori and the Blind Forest or something.

>>188563317
Toby hes cool.

You? You think YOU can get away with it? Pffft. Not happening kiddo.

>>188563476
Because Waiting for Godot is the name of a play and I was just referencing it.

Godot 3.0 will probably get a stable public release in the next 6-8 months.

>he has a "target audience"
>he is "marketing"
How to be a Jewdev

>>188563252
>“I bought this game. Why can’t I just enjoy this game the way I want?” That’s not how we think here. Yes, you did buy the game. But we made this game. And we’re pretty confident about how this game should be enjoyed.
customizationfags BTFO

>>188564036
>not fishing for easy money from furries and weebs

>>188564112
time >>> money
You are just wasting your time you could create something you actually like instead.

>>188562083
Every idea can be prototyped. If you don't understand that, then you are a nodev

>open 20 minutes programming tutorial video you wanted to quickly run through
>watch 2 minutes
>spend 2 hours cleaning room, making tea, playing flute and shit

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>tfw got a let's play of my game 5 hours after uploading the game
>the guy is from my own country too
The fuck?

>>188564213
>implying i don't like furries and weebs

>>188563732
Sure they are important parts of the production process. My point was that skyrim didn't just come together by years of iterative design and programming. Its features however did. But probably even before pre-production, they had a pretty good idea about what they wanted to create. I used skyrim as an example but you can substitute it for any creative work, apart from true art perhaps. Although true art is usually also a culmination of initial idea + studies on techniques.

>>188564586
post fucking link

>>188565573
https://squaredev.itch.io/little-red-hiding-hood
I wanted to wait until Demo Day actually started, I didn't think I'd get any views now.

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Failing gracefully

>>188561413
The way your character still does that 2 frame walk animation but you focus on pretty much everything else shows me you're just messing around.

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>>188565996
>shows me you're just messing around.
i can't draw so i'm putting it off

and it's a 4 frame animation and an improvement from the old bobbing up and down version

To all 3D Devs, do you sculpt? If so, how often for your game?

>>188560062
>fed up with limitations of electric racquet
>start building my own engine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QdIaXRrraXc

>>188566172
You can't make a good asset these days without sculpting. You can, but it'll take you a lot more time than using better tools.

It's kinda of a stupid question, why are you asking that?

>>188566129
>i can't draw so i'm putting it off
Just look at how other games do it.
Find a character which is similar to yours and kinda copy the animations

>>188566172
I'm still prototyping, so I'm not touching that shit yet.

>>188566172
If you want really neat looking bumpmaps on organic designs, then sculpting is the way to go. Also if you need really detailed bumpmaps for characters.

The rest can be done with or without sculpting. Just a matter of what you enjoy doing most.

>>188562196
>so just flashier assets then
Is that he said, retard? You're putting no effort into your game and it shows.

Now instead of flipping sass at agdg because you're dying for attention maybe fuck off and kys rotate 2.0 your game is a boring as fuck exercise in ideaguying and constantly bothering people for feedback you refuse to listen to. Hang yourself.

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>>188566320
Explain how it's easier and more practical to sculpt a model like this compared to box-modelling.
All the Blender character modelling tutorials box-model them for a reason do they not?

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Pic related has a neat little trick from FEAR. There's a dump of other ones here: http://imgur.com/gallery/GdMwk

>>188566517
>bumpmaps
What does this have to do with modelling?
I can create bump maps for any model with Quixel.

>>188564586
>>188565841
That's super cool anon. Great job!

>>188566320
That heavily depends on art style

>>188566623
>Is that he said, retard?
nice english retard
>has tons of going on in the scene
flashier assets is exactly what he meant, i just need more heads on spikes and dfferently coloured jugs or whatever, maybe with some water or something

>>188566129
>i can't draw so i'm putting it off
You have an excuse for everything. Why are you even pretending to make a game if all you're going to do with it is wave it front of agdg like a steaming pike of shit and try to get them to react to the smell?

Rotate 2.0

>>188566625
Easier - yes.
More practical - no.
You'll get ugly mess in topology that you wouldn't be able to animate properly. Sculpting is only good for static objects with complex forms.

>>188566753
Characters and highly detailed crap is sculpted and then retopologized to be used in a game engine. The highres sculpt is used to bake the bumpmap for the low res retopologized mesh.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOjXaAZHEQE&feature=youtu.be

>>188566834
>flashier assets is exactly what he meant
Sure, call it what you want you fucking moron, you're not dismissing the point.
Other people put effort into their games. You on the other hand made building, obelisk and tree templates and copy pasted them around and have a 2 frame walk animation putter around on it and this is where you've been for months now.

You need to fuck off but you can't because you are doing this 100% for attention and do not intend to actually make a game.

What this is really about for you is starting daily arguments with agdg to validate your existence. A better option: kill yourself.

>>188566850
>Rotate 2.0
you do realize its literally the same person right?

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>You'll get ugly mess in topology that you wouldn't be able to animate properly. Sculpting is only good for static objects with complex forms.

>>188567072
It wouldn't surprise me. If it were really him, being referred to as himself 2.0 is still a heft insult. The kid is/was a fucking disaster.

>>188566638
> these posts
my life is a lie

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Why is unity doing this to me? The lighting is shit and wont stop clustering or finish its jobs? How do I get my lighting back?

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>>188567009
>You on the other hand made building, obelisk and tree templates and copy pasted them around
that is literally how videogames are made dumbass

i have other shit implemented
>this is where you've been for months now.
i've been making visual tweaks and working on the combat

i haven't made WEBMs of it because i'm still working on it

>>188567208
Meant for >>188566851

God fucking damnit.

>>188567220
If you care enough go look back in the archives and youll put it together plus he never denies it.

People need to stop responding to him.

>>188567274
Make another kickstarter

>>188567208
You don't understand what you just posted yourself, do you?

>>188567438
He has denied it plenty of times. Most of the time though he tries to pretend he didn't hear it or pretends to ignore it.

>>188567208
A very clearly box-modelled base-mesh that was sculpted for some wakey wakey normals n bakey.

Also Witcher 1 was a fucking mess from animation to design and I'm not sure why you'd think that would help your point.

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>>188566851
you do know there's this thing called retopo, right?

>>188566625
Sculpting gets you a free normal map, let's you control the flow easier and overall has a smoother workflow.
If your base topo is good you might even save even more time on retopo.
Fantastic if you have a basic "doll" and want to make variations and assets for different character.

Making that cupboard is easier with boxes, but a character, nah.

>All the Blender character modelling tutorials box-model them for a reason do they not?
lol

>>188567618
>retopo
Did you ever used it yourself on anything more complex than pair of cubes?

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>>188567293
>i have other shit implemented
Yeah you had all kinds of "shit" "implemented" on your last game too. How'd that go?

Still resulted in no game. Just a broken heap of shit from an engie who only wants to toy around with gamedev while still wanting all the attention and success of a 1MA. Pathetic.

>>188567618
>hair clips right through the lens on her glasses

lmao all that work for nothing

>>188567525
>>188567557
That entire thing is sculpted. Also watch this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPzxwNlA6mQ

Sculpted, textured, retopologized and rigged all in less than an hour. Dynamic model.

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>>188567698
>Did you ever used it yourself on anything more complex than pair of cubes?
You don't "use" it, you do it. Are you pretending to be retarded?

If you mean something like "zRemesher", you don't use it for the final retopology, you use it to quickly change the edgeflow.

>>188567618
why is she gonna wear glasses in a robot
why are her nipples so hard
where are her pants

what kind of game is this from

>>188567293
>that is literally how videogames are made dumbass
There's a lot more to making games than doing the bare minimum in creating environments. You've never done anything but the bare minimum though. You're extremely EXTREMELY fucking lazy and are known for wasting over 6 months of people's time on a project you bailed on.

You're not doing so great with this second persona or this second game. In fact it's literally just a repeat.

>>188561125
What's the game about? The concept looks interesting, tell me more

>>188567618
Retopology is never perfect, and look at the picture again. What makes you think that needs to be sculpted?

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>>188568058
You can find the author and ask him.

>>188567712
>>188568072
i'm not rotate
>There's a lot more to making games than doing the bare minimum in creating environments.
hence why i'm working on mechanics that don't translate to WEBMs well

i have plenty of progress, it's just that most of it isn't visual

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>>188556626
>TempleOS posting isn't included
FUCK YEAH FAGGOTS

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What are u favorite genre and why u like it so much?

>>188568252
fuck off spic

>>188567293
>>188567712
kind of fucked up that rotatedev couldn't come up with an original character design

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>>188568149
>Retopology is never perfect
Are you stupid or what? Retopology is as perfect as you do it, holy crap.

>>188568202
>i'm not rotate
You mean 'rotatedev'. Referring to yourself like that only makes it more obvious.

You're an imbecile, Blake.

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WHERE'S THE GUY WHO SAID BILLBOARDS WILL NEVER BE SCARY

>>188568252

Most RPGs, especially open world RPGs.

I like them because I know I'll never be able to make one. I just want to make an Oblivion clone dammit.

>>188568424
>>188568285
>>188568202
Would all of you nuisances please rotate 180 degrees and walk away from this thread
The rest of us are making progress

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How hard would this be to model?

>tfw you get emails from people saying they like your game but couldn't buy it because they are struggling financially
>tfw they basically tell you they pirated your game
>tfw they still tell you what they want changed

>>188568202
Hey rotate did you consider that you demanded just earlier that everyone say what's wrong with your graphics

and now you're making excuses?
Why did you even ask then?
It's because you're fucking mental and use gamedev as a way to get attention.
KYS

>>188568321
Way to confirm you're a complete idiot that knows nothing about sculpting.

>>188568492
hello

>>188568649
Tell them you'll send them a revised copy to their home address. Ask them for said Address. Then call the cops.

>>188565841
The video was pretty good, the T-pose bolting at the end had me chuckling.

>>188568424
you're the fuckers who keep calling me rotate

kill yourself
>>188568690
still not rotate
>you demanded just earlier that everyone say what's wrong with your graphics
saying they haven't changed in a month isn't valid criticism

saying they lack variety is fine and it's something i'm going to work on, i'm listening to that guy and ignoring the rest of you retards

>>188568690
If he's using gamedev as a way to get attention then why don't you stop giving him so much attention instead of getting angry for no reason?

>>188568582

Most of it would be texture work.

>>188568695
Not him but, wtf do you mean. What he said was correct. You do the retopology by hand, basically drawing out the polygons over the high-res sculpt. You end up with a second mesh at a lower resolution. The quality of that mesh depends on how well you did the retopology. You sound like a retard.

>>188568170
Wait, she has a panties at front but a loincloth at back?? And no visible back part of the panties?
Does that mean her front panties are fasten to the anal plug or something?

>>188568582
Very easy. THe main things you consider impressive are all procedural crap, like all the noisy bark and "moss".

Then you drop a few tiny flowers with an object brush and maybe a leaf or two that are literally planes with a photo texture.

>>188568863
>U MAD
>JUST IGNORE ME
lol

>>188566625
you could easily "sculpt" a character like this in minutes but you'd have to retopo it. a lot of people think sculpting just means taking a blob and scraping away it but they are just misinformed, you can sculpt with blocking shapes in together and making slight adjustments, it's preferable if you aren't going for that lumpy creature look and wants something more stylized

see
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTWoyKTqT2I

>>188568932
where's your treant

>>188568582
This Game Will Keep You Up All Night

>>188568854
>saying they haven't changed in a month isn't valid criticism
I think a more valid criticism is that you are not capable of making games. It's written on your face, it's written on your forehead. Your game looks like shit, your progress is non-existent. Most devs here could catch up with you in 2 days just like every other "game" you've ever attempted.

Kill yourself Blake.

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>>188568695
>Way to confirm you're a complete idiot that knows nothing about sculpting.
It's like you're replying to yourself

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>>188566956
>It's not fair, the pigeon doesn't have instructions written all over the place.
>I checked, he apparently isn't diagnosed with learning difficulties

>>188568876
>manual retopology
>more practical than poly modeling for simple character models
You're such a stupid idiot it's funny.

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>>188567765

>>188568932
Shitters like you sure like to say things are easy, but never seem capable of backing it up. I guess that's your way of feeling better about yourself.

>>188569356
>moving the goalposts

Go, go!
Go Danny go!

>>188569356
this is bait

>>188569480
That was the original argument, you bumbling idiot.

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>>188569001

>>188568854
>i'm listening to that guy
Who fucking cares? You really needed someone to point out that your game looks bland as shit and has nothing going on?

You think we're envious of anons who beckon your ear to heed their feedback?
Kill yourself.
Start a poll and ask how many agdg anons expect you to actually make this game happen, maybe that will be the wake up call you need to finally give up and stop coming back. You argue with feedback, you disregard feedback, you brush it off with stupid shit nobody wants to hear, like you're our child and giving us excuses about your messy room. It's YOUR shitty game, retard, and nobody here actually believes you're capable of improving it or making something of it. Keep your excuses to yourself.

>>188567712
That is a tasty fucking looking fire effect. Going to steal that.

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Why aren't you making a hentai game?

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>retopology is perfect
This is what babies actually believe after sculpting for the first time.

>>188569912
Retopo is not not necessarily automatic.

>>188569853
Insufficient art proficiency

>>188569912
You can use a zphere and do it manually, which would *generally* be preferred for an animated mesh.

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>rotate is getting found out and talked harshly to again
>time to freak out about danny again
It's crazy that someone who actually thought they were a gamedev became this
https://boards.fireden.net/vg/search/text/danny/username/rotatedev/

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>>188569356
I mean, if you're a bumbling fuck who uses Blender tutorials, box modelling might be easier.

if you know the workflow though, you can quickly prototype a character and retopo it easier and faster.

>>188569853
I always thought about just kicking back for a month and making a VN. The most generic VN possible, about Crippled Monster girls, who are also cursed to attend a maid school or something

The MS Paint artwork would probably enhance the experience

Please stop replying to the retopo shitposter

>>188569819
No need to steal you could probably get the original asset from Theonian since rotatedev abandoned him like a coward without a word.

>>188569789
>You think we're envious of anons who beckon your ear to heed their feedback?
clearly you fucking are if you keep whining that i don't listen to YOUR retarded gibberish

saying i listen to feedback but not yours is how i prove that i listen to feedback you mongoloid
>BOO HOO HOO ARR YOU DO IS WALK AROUND
better than another generic piece of trash like you shitters enjoy shitting out

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>>188569912
>he thinks retopology means using zRemesher
This are the people you share a thread with.

>>188570086
Nobody here ever mentioned detailed models built for UE4 you retard.

For simple characters with no complex geometry, box/poly modelling is more practical than sculpting.

>>188570074
>https://boards.fireden.net/vg/search/text/danny/username/rotatedev/
I notice 2015 archives are gone. That's like 3,000 shitposts about danny lost forever. A tragedy.

>>188570263
There's literally no need to sculpt and manually retopologize simple models when it's easier to poly model them from scratch, retard.

Why does he pretend that it isn't him when there's proof? The sourceposting is and was always him.
https://boards.fireden.net/vg/search/username/Mothdan/

>>188570408
Have you tried painting normal maps by hand?

>>188570262
>YOUR retarded gibberish
What was retarded about telling you to stop arguing with anons who you ask feedback from?

Even now you are desperately seeking to further argue. This has more meaning to you than your game because you know your game is an abortion just like everything else you attempt.

>>188570245
I'll remake it myself but thanks for trying to help, anon. Appreciate it.

>>188570541
Reality check: the original poster who asked the question posted a character from POKEMON XY. It probably doesn't even fucking have normal maps.

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>>188570289
What you posted is not a simple character.

Especially if you want to do something cool with maps and lighting.

And if you're proficient with the tools, sculpting and retopo is quicker than box modelling.

>>188570520
Who cares?

>>188570556
>What was retarded about telling you to stop arguing with anons who you ask feedback from?
>>188566623
>Is that he said, retard? You're putting no effort into your game and it shows.
>Now instead of flipping sass at agdg because you're dying for attention maybe fuck off and kys rotate 2.0 your game is a boring as fuck exercise in ideaguying and constantly bothering people for feedback you refuse to listen to. Hang yourself.
so this is the power of feedback

fucking kill yourself

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This is a humble reminder that learning how to develop your game from scratch (that is, not relaying in game engines such as unity and GMS) will take you closer to deploying a game and beat your competitors.

Because games and game development are so popular, and you are competing against other games for attention, it is in your interest to use more performant tools that allow you to program your game without cutting any feature or depending on closed software.

If you are interested in defeating your main opponents (those using game engines, like the ones listed in the op poster), here are some tips:

- Use efficient and performant programming languages, such as c++, rust or nim.
http://cplusplus.com/doc/tutorial/
http://doc.rust-lang.org/book/
http://nim-by-example.github.io

- Learn algorithms:
http://coursera.org/specializations/algorithms

- Learn maths and physics:
http://khanacademy.org/math
http://khanacademy.org/science/physics

- Learn how to get the most out of your cpu:
http://dataorienteddesign.com/dodmain/
http://learncpp.com/cpp-tutorial/79-the-stack-and-the-heap
http://fgiesen.wordpress.com/2016/08/07/why-do-cpus-have-multiple-cache-levels/

- Learn how to do graphics:
http://opengl-tutorial.org/beginners-tutorials/

Good luck.

>>188570682
There is no such post in the reply chain

>>188570074
rotate knew he was never going to be a gamedev. that's the problem.

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>>188570814
At this point you might think that nothing of this applies to you. Please, reconsider it:

- Data-Oriented Design (Or Why You Might Be Shooting Yourself in The Foot With OOP)
gamesfromwithin.com/data-oriented-design

- Pitfalls of Object Oriented Programming
.slideshare.net/EmanWebDev/pitfalls-of-object-oriented-programminggcap09

- common OOP game engine development pitfalls
bounceapp.com/116414

- Three Big Lies
cellperformance.beyond3d.com/articles/2008/03/three-big-lies.html

Think about it in this way: understanding how your computer work might not secure you success, yet it gives you a huge advantage in this race.

You might say that the latest famous indie game done in unity didn't put any effort into engineering at all, but this is only illusory. You cannot see how many hours, days and months the developers behind successful unity (and GMS) games had to put to work around its inherent limitations.

You can say to yourself "I don't need anything else, i'll rely on my luck" or think wisely and increase the likelihood of being success by spending some time learning more about computers.
Everything depends on you.

>>188570262
>"shitters"
>>188570724
"so this is the power of...."
"REEE FUCKING KILL YOURSELF"
you haven't changed a bit blake. always burst into flames whenever your mental faculties tire from simple discussions with adults.

No one wants to read your posts MothDan, put the trip back on please, we know it's you so hiding isnt working.

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>>188563287
if anyone watched this, u got feedback for future update vids?

>>188570814
>This is a humble reminder that learning how to develop your game from scratch (that is, not relaying in game engines such as unity and GMS) will take you closer to deploying a game and beat your competitors.

Wrong. Your development time will be multiplied exponentially.

>Because games and game development are so popular, and you are competing against other games for attention, it is in your interest to use more performant tools that allow you to program your game without cutting any feature or depending on closed software.

Nobody cares if the game is programmed on its own engine or uses a game development kid. It's the art and GAMEPLAY that matter. Fuck off shitposter.

If you want to get into Sculpting, is ZBrush necessary?

How does Blender Sculpting, Sculptris and Mudbox compare?

>>188570845
He was wishy washy at best
>http://pastebin.com/mN1K6jS3

>>188570987
>simple discussions with adults.
IN THE POST I QUOTED YOU LITERALLY TOLD ME TO HANG MYSELF
>>188571040
did you spam loads of keys for this on /v/

>>188570724
Maybe instead of unraveling you should fuck off and think about your life a bit.

You are not a gamedev and never will be, Blake.

>>188571054
>Nobody cares if the game is programmed on its own engine or uses a game development kid
t. someone out of touch with the video game community.

People are waking up to Unity being shit, which is why we're now seeing several threads on /v/ criticizing it and people saying they avoid playing anything made in the engine.

>>188571110
Sculptris is absolute garbage.

Mudbox is good.

>>188571114
><yukizini> i'm now making a castlvania game again
he abandoned two (2) vania games? kek

>tfw no game development kid to make your dream games for you

>>188571110
Never use Blender for anything, it steals precious brain power you need for learning the apps that are actually used

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>>188571229
Ahem

>>188571110
Zbrush is the industry standard, R8 introduces a lot of quality of life improvements.

Mudbox is good, Sculptris is like a free demo for a a real sculpting software, and Blender is Blender.

>>188571229
Yeah and I guess CoD only sells 100 copies since everyone on /v/ says it's shit so that means literally no one buys it.

>>188571493
now youve done it

>>188571427
What do you use for rigging then?

>>188571668
AutoCAD

>>188571229
>People are waking up to Unity being shit
How out of touch are you? "REE UNITY" was an outdated topic by 2016. Jim Sterling made another "wah unity" video just a month ago and everyone told him to fuck off because people are tired of beating a dead horse.

Find a new thing to try and validate yourself with.
>I DON'T USE UNITY THOUGH
doesn't cut it >>188571493

Is ZBrush Core all you need as an indie gamedev, or does the full version have some essential features?

Good OBS Studio settings and good WebM for Retards settings please? Highest quality possible while staying within the limits of the general

>tfw your cool awesome game idea is being held up because you can't do graphics
>your antfarm is too nerdy to catch an artists attention
I should just give up and stalk someone else's idea to help with programming.

Will you be using GDScript in your Godot game? Or C++?

>>188571229
>we're now seeing several threads on /v/ criticizing it
You sound like a politician desperately trying to hold onto their base.

Please show us these "several threads" in /v/ about Unity.

Poor little reek :^) Why won't they listen? :^)

>>188571110
>>188571337
>>188571507
Is this true?

https://www.methodj.com/mudbox-vs-zbrush-beginner-learn/

>>188572165
https://boards.fireden.net/v/search/text/>made%20unity/type/op/

>>188572352
There's some valid points, but learning zbrush interface is not that hard as people make it out to be. It won't "hinder your artistic growth", you'll just spend some time learning the UI, just like any other program.

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>>188572565
Neat, you just linked dozens of out of context shitposts like
>Unity
and
>le homer unity laugh

The same shitposts nodevs make in agdg they make in /v/
I guess Unity really is dead!

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Does /agdg/ dislike Jim Sterling?

>>188567208
Isn't the idea to sculpt a high poly mesh with all the little details, then create a low poly mesh based on the shape of the high poly mesh, then bake the normals from the high poly mesh to the low poly mesh?

>>188572938
I have no idea who that might be

So, this anon is a liar and is lying

>>188571229
>we're now seeing several threads on /v/ criticizing it and people saying they avoid playing anything made in the engine.

Nice lie, liar who lies.

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>have randomly generated married couples
>need to decide if they are always a man and a woman or not, and the potential bitching due to either decision
Gamedev used to be so simple

>>188572938
I dislike stupid /v/ shit leaking into these threads

>>188573034
where is your fucking game that matches your fucking shitposting you fucking waste of space

>>188572938
Why does this guy's opinion matter? Why does he need to dress up like a clown? Why does he pretend to know everything?

>>188572938
I don't care for his politics or his opinions on the quality of video games, but I appreciate him calling out the shitty developers who give us a bad name.

>>188573034
Just make it like 85% straight, 15% gay.
It's not that big of a deal.

>>188572938
>listening to the opinion of anyone too stupid to manage their weight

anyone who is fat isn't worth listening to about anything

>>188572938
He's irrelevant now. No longer gives a shit about indie games and just wants to be the Content Cop for AAA games and microtransactions.

He's not even a gamer he's just a gossipy journalist looking for things to stir controversy.

>>188573034
Add some sliders in the settings that allow people to adjust the probabilities. Then use a random seed to set those sliders when the game is launched for the first time. This way they can never attack you for anything.

>>188573034
Just make it like you want it, let others waste time steaming about it.

I'd make it all man-woman only

>>188573396
Wording this. And absolutely ignore anyone that asks about it. Your game, your rules.

>>188573202
Your perspective of the world is completely warped by 4chan and Tumblr. Fewer than 2% of people are gay.

Anyone here have experience in publishing games on konregate, armorgames, itch or similar sites?
Can it be somewhat financially successful?

Is godot 3.0 stable enough for 2d right now? I've been making my game in 2.1, but I heard I won't be able to port it over to 3.0.

>>188573034
>>188573202
This except make it way less. You probably would only need 1 in every couple hundred couples be gay to get your brownie points, but knowing the more popular target audience if they see more than a couple in a playthrough they'll flip the lid.

>>188573552
You're about five years too late anon. The days of making ten thousand dollar Flash sponsorship deals is long gone.

>>188573530
I know it's not actually 15%. But does it really matter if it's 15% vs 2%?
The only people that get triggered by gayness are closeted faggots who are afraid of being gay.

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you mightve wondered which way would be faster

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C'MON
JUST FIVE MORE SPOTS

>>188573734
>everyone is secretly gay like me
Classic faggot you are.

>>188573552
Depends what you consider financial success, I've gotten ~$1,300 in donations for my free game on itchio.

>>188574013
link please, I want to donate
I have to donate
It is my life's calling to donate

>>188573034
lolisim dev?

>>188573573
finish it in 2.1, it will still receive updates until 2.1.5, features are still added to it (like move_and_slide). you only want 3.0 if you want 3D or opengl ES 3

>>188573573
They have been bugfixing a whole lot for the past month, so it has gotten more stable. It's still considered alpha though. How much of the game do you have done so far?
There is a 2.1 -> 3.0 converter. It's not perfect, but it should help with porting to 3.0. I think the biggest things that wont port easily are shaders, audio, and 3D stuff. Most nodes still work the same, and GDScript will still be the same, there's just some additional features to GDScript. Many function names and node property names were renamed, but I think the converter is supposed to handle those.

>>188573903
Literally no one would give a fuck about these meaningless, microscopic, pointless optimizations

Ten billion loops of that will be less consequential than a single HDD read.

>>188574376
>>188574396
I'm not far into my game and it's 2D. I started maybe 2 weeks ago.

>>188574013
You've seen through my ploy, I never really meant to donate
All I wanted was to see your itch page
For this display of honesty you'll share the link, right

>>188574574
>Literally no one would give a fuck about these meaningless, microscopic, pointless optimizations
that's where you're wrong

>>188566851
>Sculpting is only good for static objects with complex forms.

RETARD ALERT. RETARD ALERT.

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I thought ragdolls were cool, wtf anons?

>>188574891
>his spine turns into jello when he dies
noice.

>>188574891
nice 3d maneuver gear

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>>188574979
It's a jump kit

What does agdg think of QUIXEL Suite? How does it compare to Substance?

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What language is my best bet for being able to develop games while also just potentially getting a career as a software dev? I'm done with Java I think

>>188575484
java

>>188575484
most enterprise software is now written in C#

>>188575484
C++, C#, Java.

>>188575484
your only path is enginedev in C O B O L

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>>188575406
>What does agdg think of QUIXEL Suite? How does it compare to Substance?
Completely different things, basically. (Googling this would've given you the same answer)

Quixel suit is mainly for making normals from scratch, creating generic sci-fi panelling and so on. You can also make normals from photos (would not recommend).

Substance is for making materials and PBR textures. You bake down maps from your high-poly onto your lowpoly and drag-and-drop and paint on your mesh.

Make sure to understand the difference between Substance Painter and Substance Designer, they're for different things.

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I made a wheat field. not sure about the scene composition put yeah

>>188570814
absolute fucking retard

I got a question regarding how GML collision event works.

I have a collision event that never gets triggered itself, but I trigger it using event_perform when needed.
Is that more taxing than just having a custom event and triggering that?
Does collision event itself keep checking for collisions every step? Is that how these events work?

>>188575884
Feel bad for him. For some people this is how they cope with not having a game. Giving "advice" and lecturing from undeservedly arrogant perspectives.

Case in point
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFRuzZQBlJc

>>188565841
another pasta here downloading it right now

Languagedev

What's the easiest genre of music to get into? I just want to make some placeholder music for my games. But I've never done more than playing the recorder in elementary school.

OSdev

>>188575870
Either remove the sun or make it way smaller.

>>188575870
>ywn be as happy as that scarecrow
feels bad man

>>188570814
How do you explain this, Mr. Engie?
>>188571493
Keep in mind it's not like rotate had literally nothing to work with. He had great original assets provided to him by Theonian and a custom engine in production and nobody cared, because there was no game. He was certain he was the biggest deal and going to be rich and famous because "NOT UNITY".

Beat by a asset store flip.

Anyone used Easy Flares Pro? It's on sale this week and the only competitor is Pro Flares which is fucking $80.

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How do you punish a playr for hitting walls/ground while web-swinging?

>>188573034

>Think the same thing about having black characters in my otherwise European fantasy game
>Decide to just respond to criticism by saying "Feel free to mod black people in :^)"

Sometimes I'm glad I was trained in being a dick by 4chan.

>>188575917
why not move code into a script?
i doubt that gamemaker checks for collisions when no collision code is present so unless GM is that stupid, collision event does make object check for collisions every step automatically (i think it's literally just place_meeting(x, y, obj) that gets executed).

i used collision event of player object with wall object to show error - it got triggered when my own collision code fucked up and player overlapped with wall. you can do everything yourself in step, so i don't think there's any point to use it.

>>188570814
>>188570985
I know you think it's ironic shitposting after all this time but still, posters like you will always be the biggest promoter for commercial devs like GMS and Unity. Nobody who wants to make a game would ever want to end up like you making posts like this even ironically, trying to cope with not having a game. Nobody wants to be you, so it stands to reason the best thing to do is do the opposite of your advice.

And that's why all of the games in agdg are made in commercial engines.

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Haven't been here in a while, so here's what I'm currently working on. It's a new area called Kukui Village. It's something of a resort area. Still touching up some of the colors. You'll have to rescue the daughter of a pilot to get to the next town from here.

>>188576741
damage based on their velocity.
Really tired of being able to negate fall damage in every game because they tend to do fall damage checked by an is_falling state.

>>188576741
isn't it inherently punishing cause they have to spend time to get back up?

>>188575738
agdg has told me in the past that i should only get one or the other though?

>>188576741
make them ragdoll for 2 seconds

>>188577072
I am agdg and telling you to use neither

>>188576296
If you can build a coroutine system that works well for AI, beat Lua for hot-reloading individual scripts, and still build a passable JIT, you'll be the hero enginedevs deserve.

>>188576849
What are you talking about?

Even if nobody here successfully builds an engine from scratch, if they have the skills required to make one, there's about a 100% chance they will have a far more successful, wealthier life than you and every other no-hoper in this thread.

>>188577242
>JIT

>>188577276
>entrusting your precious game logic to an AST evaluator like a fucking barbarian

>>188577396
>interpretation

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>>188577254
>being this delusional
Google "slipstream".
The best engies in agdg are at best able to scam 5k off a KS and run away. Congrats.

>>188577276
>>188577442
Eager compilation, lazy compilation, I don't give a fuck. Just let me edit scripts while the game is running and compile them to native code so I don't get framerate anxiety.

>>188576327
tribal percussion