/hsg/ - Hearthstone General

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>Still haven't fixed the bugging DK hero powers

What do you think they're doing all day at the Team 5 office?

>>188322101
nerfing druid
oh wait...

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>ant and rayc will be casting the next dreamhack

>>188322178
who

>>188322178
literally who

>>188322101
they play overwatch all day

I want to cum inside Bomb Squad.

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So how should I round off my deck? I have enough dust for a legendary so I don't mind if it requires one.
I guess I'm also open to suggestions for changes too.

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>I'm expected to pay for a retarded story mode that I dont want to play to unlock like 40 virtual cards (when I only need 2 of them) that will be obsolete in a few months
People unironically support this?

>>188322432

you prefer to open random packs instead?

>tried of needing 2 card combos to do anything decent with Shaman
>looking up budget decks
>Secret Mage has a crazy win rate while only needing around 2k dust.

Is it really that decent?

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>watch streamer play highlander priest
>chat is constantly praising him like he's an underdog fighting against druids and not equally cancerous

I cant wait for these dipshits to learn what true cancer looks like when Priest becomes 40% of the playerbase

>>188322408
what's this supposed to be teched against? murlocs?

>druid emotes when you concede

day of rope when?

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which card is the Lulu of this game?
>cute
>adorable
>annoying
>cucks aggression

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Yogg fatigue best deck

>>188322659
Anything really. It does pretty well against aggro and I've had middling success with the druids I've found. I figured I could drop a shimmering for a better card but I don't really know what.

>>188322525
Not him but you can open what, 28 packs 5 cards each for that cost, so yes most definitely.

>>188322941
>20 dollars for karazhan
>20 dollars is 15 packs
>You'll be lucky to get even 1 legendary
no

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>>188322701
Easy

>>188322941

Now compare how many legendaries you are guaranteed in an adventure to how many you are guaranteed in 28 packs

>>188322701
annoy-o-tron

>>188322941
>100 garbo commons + 30 garbo rares
>vs guaranteed high quality legendaries and epics that will form the meta for 2 years
hmmm....

>>188322525
Yes, also there is a mighty fine crafting system that could be used like the rest of the cards instead of locking staple cards behind pay walls. but nope we have to be stingy kikes and milk every nickle and dime we can out of our consumers.
>>188323037
No your missing the point entirely. ALL cards should be craftable especially cards that are going to be out of the meta in a few months. What the fuck is this bullshit?

>>188322614
it's real good against bad players who can't play around secrets effectively, and becomes rapidly shit against players who know how to do that
it might be late enough in the season to start laddering with it, but trying to climb past rank 15 on day 1 was suffering

>>188323236
>A few
It's closer to 8. 20 dollars for 8 months use out of the cards is pretty fair. If you had hopped on board earlier it would have been up to 2 years. I really don't see the problem.

>>188323041
>drood spawned 5 each with both cards
>still powered through them and beat him to a pulp
What is my deck?

>>188323037
I was counting in gold, that's 700g each wing, 4 wings total.
>You'll be lucky to get even 1 legendary
Don't you get a free legendary every 10 packs?

>>188323236
I'd consider 1600 dust to craft a single card a pretty high paywall desu

how much is it REASONABLY to get a tier 1 deck.

i come from tcgs where i can just buy the cards but this is the only game that will have real world prize support.

>>188322941
The people who like adventures like them for the guaranteed dust. You're not supposed to use the cards. One adventure wing gets way more than the equivalent amount in packs unless you pull really, really well and that's not worth banking on.

>>188323159
who the fuck cares? None of them are useful they are all just memes. Let me make the god damn cards I want to make. Medivh's vallet is in every single god damn mage deck. I'd rather have that then the other pointless 40 cards I get from that stupid adventure.

>>188323373
>Don't you get a free legendary every 10 packs?
No. You get a guaranteed legendary in your first 10 packs of each set assuming you haven't gotten one before.

>>188323450
>None are useful
>Babbling Book
>Barnes
>Medivh's Valet
>Arcane Golem
>The Curator
>Maelstrom Portal
>Medivh himself
>etc
Nigga are you dumb

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Ignore the druidstone for a moment and explain which DK you have most fun with.
>play DK Thrall
>keep hearing Overmind's "Evolution complete!" with every HP

>>188323407
just do the math
about 100 dust average per pack
cheap T1 decks cost what, like 5k dust to craft? (though you can run budget versions and they won't be much worse)
That's 50 packs +/-

>>188323450

Look at it this way: you get way more dust from buying an adventure than from buying $20 in packs

>>188323591
>Now compare how many legendaries you are guaranteed in an adventure
>who the fuck cares? None of them are useful they are all just memes
Correct me if I'm wrong, but grammatically, "them" refers to the adventure legendaries, yes? That's the most natural interpretation? And all the kara legendaries currently are memes; barnes priest is obsoleted by razakus, medivh druid is obsoleted by kun druid, and idk what decks even run curator

>>188323765
DK Jaina is actually the most fun card in this game. Just constantly shitting out elementals while healing yourself cucks nearly every deck if you keep tempo and it gives you some good salty messages.

>>188323450
>Medivh's vallet is in every single god damn mage deck
lol maybe at rank 25

>>188323591
I dont care about any of those aside from babbling book. I was going to mention it but I already implied it in my first post. Aside from that, everything else you said are all retarded gimmicks or they belong in decks I dont care to play.
>>188323435
So why not just sell dust and make the cards craftable as an alternative option? I dont want all those cards and I dont want to do the tedious adventures. Spoiler alert: The answer is money. I imagine the stupid adventure encourages you to spend even more money so you can get retarded niche cards to beat the specific gimmick bosses.

>>188323765
>>188323873
This, but Rexxar is fun too. Everything else just kinda works except Valeera which is a meme.

I STILL HAVEN'T GOT THE PACKS IN BOTH NA AND EU

>>188323982
Then show me a good mage deck that doesn't use that card or babbling book. Please, I'm all ears.

>>188324162
Maybe you should inform someone that can actually help you with that problem instead of, you know, us.

>>188324050
>I imagine the stupid adventure encourages you to spend even more money so you can get retarded niche cards to beat the specific gimmick bosses.
generally it's consensus that adventures give more good cards for less money than packs
personally I think they're the most fun part of the game but that's just my opinion

Anyway, you're in luck because blizzard agrees with you, there won't be any more adventures. Ever.

>When you recognize your own game losing misplay right after you do it
is there a worse feel

>>188324178
>or babbling book
moving goalposts here

anyway, every mage deck that isn't secret or tempo mage doesn't use valet. Like quest or value mage.
babbling books you could replace with shimmering tempest I guess, but yes it's worse.

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Lightning strikes twice.

>>188324472
value mage should run valet
post your list if you disagree

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>Druid - Attack gained by your hero lasts two turns.

>Hunter - Your Hero Power costs (0) this game.

>Mage - Your Hero has Spell Damage +1.

>Paladin - Your Hero Power summons have +1/+1.

>Priest - Double the healing of your spells and Hero Power.

>Rogue - Your spells have Lifesteal.

>Shaman - Your Totems can't be targeted by spells or Hero Powers.

>Warlock - Your Hero Power discovers the draw instead.

>Warrior - All minions act as damaged.

>>188324704
some of these are really strong while others are complete ass

>>188324864
wow, it's just like DKs and quests

>>188324864
and the princes are really strong for some classes and complete ass for others, what's your point

>>188324704
Priest and warlock are insane.

>>188324935
Even the worst DK is miles better than the worst quest.

>>188324864

which ones are which and what is your counteroffer?

>>188324948
because blizzard cant properly design cards doesnt mean we have to do the same imo

>>188324326
>Anyway, you're in luck because blizzard agrees with you, there won't be any more adventures. Ever.
Source please? This sounds too good to be true. Eh even it is true I'm sure they pull something to get people to pointless spend money.

>Lose to Glyph's mana reduction
sick of this fucking card

>>188325020
warlock class cards are really shitty though

>>188325186
>Source please? This sounds too good to be true. Eh even it is true I'm sure they pull something to get people to pointless spend money.
>By far the best dust to gold / money ratio
>Generally has very high quality cards
You actually are retarded

>>188325228
>let me pull an answer out of my ass with zero penalty
They should have removed the mana reduction.

>>188325186

>Eh even it is true I'm sure they pull something to get people to pointless spend money.

they did. packs drain so much money they decided to cut off adventures and keep going with packs only.

>>188325326
>let me pull an answer out of my ass with zero penalty
>Oh look the opposing hero has placed new problems on the board negating what I've done and I have nothing to counter it now
There's a reason mage is considered pretty shit right now anon. RNG isn't good for consistency. Cucking you occasionally isn't anywhere near as bad as every other hero besides Hunter cucking you consistently.

>>188325186
https://us.battle.net/hearthstone/en/blog/20475356/a-year-of-mammoth-proportions-2-16-2017

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>>188324704

god I miss her

Hey /hsg/ i didn't play Un'goro at all, coming back, got like 8k dust, what's a good deck to make? Is it best to have one very powerful deck or many varied for quests making?

>>188325271
>hurrrr muh dust ratio
casual players being able to craft the most interesting commons/rares in the game instead of having a "fuck you" sized paywall in front of them is huge
if you're thinking about the legendaries or the average number of legendaries per pack you're already operating far beyond the scale of casual players and you obviously have no idea what's good for the health of the actual playerbase as opposed to the extreme tryhard minority

>>188325431
>it's ok because druid/paladin is worse
fuck you

>It's ok because nearly every other class is worse
ftfy
Mage having strong removal options is its only gimmick right now and it's fucking bad otherwise. Strip that away and you'll have a class BTFO'd worse than Druid will be in a couple of weeks.

>>188325539
wait a day, druid nerfs are being announced

the best decks besides pirate warrior are all quite expensive

reminder that blizz has yet to justify infestation and plague being cards

>>188325539
what decks did you enjoy last time you played? Currently druid overshadows everything, but all the classes have a decent tier 2 deck.

>>188325550

2800 gold for an adventure far, far outweighs what 28 packs will ever give you.

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>>188325532
One of my favorite cards
Now, with the addition of death knights she's worthless even in wild

goodnight, sweet princess

>>188325550
>Can buy adventures with gold
>Adventures give much better cards on average compared to buying packs
>muh game health
The game is doing fine and you're still retarded. Buying packs is a scam compared to the quality and consistency adventures gave.

>>188325745
Honestly the funnest decks i've played were Miracle Rogue and Jade whatever.

Honestly before Un'Goro i just made the better deck (Pirate Warrior) and some of the Jades to finish quests

>>188325674
>wah wah wah it's ok to be unfair because wah wah wah
no
fuck
you
this is just bad game design fuck you

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>>188321962

r8
h8

>Have to wait a minimum of 2 weeks before druid is deleted from the game

Fucking tournyfags

>>188326063
>unfair
I'm trying to understand you point and I just can't. Why are you so focused on mage when it's literally a toss up on whether they even get that answer when every other class just has that shit outright.
Is it just because they can play it a little earlier? That's hardly overpowering compared to the shit other classes can put out and is one of the few tools Mage has to balance things out. Is Glyph strong? Sure. Does it need to be strong? Fuck yes.

>>188325539
Do you have a phone? Nowadays all the quests I don't have decks for I just do with myself using my computer and an alt, after they changed quests to be finishable with friends. So you don't necessarily have to worry as much about having varied decks

The only decks I can speak from experience about are secret mage, exodia mage, pirate warrior, miracle rogue, evolve shaman, and jade druid.
Exodia (freeze mage) is the same shit it's always been, pirate warrior is the same shit, evolve (midrange) shaman is the same shit, miracle plays a little differently but its core mental requirements are the same. So craft those if you liked them in past expansions.
Secret mage is nice and relaxing but it's not actually very good and also it's cheap so even if you craft it you'll want to craft something else.
Jade druid in the ultimate infestation era is actually pretty entertaining; I'd probably be playing druid in this expansion even without the cards that make it tier 0 because I like the design of malfurion the pestilent, so it's not a bad deck to craft into. The jade mirror is extremely fucking stupid though and you'll run into a lot of those, so if you have low tolerance for mirror matches you might want to craft something else.

>>188326063
>unfair
stats don't lie and they prove you wrong.
The only class that's unfair right now is paladin

>>188325945
>>188325989
Adventures are objectively retreaded to a 100% f2per like myself. Packs and dust are a thing that I can get. An adventure takes too fucking to get if you are all f2p. I would actually considering buying but I just cant considering how stupidly this game handles it's p2p side. I just cant.

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When I run into another Hunter player, I sense this unspoken camaraderie. Like two downtrodden brothers that understand each other's plight.

Is this the Black experience?

>>188326275
>100 gold for a pack that's nearly guaranteed to compared complete garbage.
>Or you can just show the willpower an average grade schooler would be capable of and save up gold for cards that are guaranteed to be good
>Waah it's unfair!

>>188325818
>>188325945
>thread after thread on every forum, actual newfags complain about not being able to craft the one adventure card they care about and are glad the system changed
>butthurt theorycrafters still whining about their memes like "quality" "consistency" and "outweigh"
Killing adventures was the only good thing team 5 has done in 2017 and I'm sorry you're all too retarded to notice that

>>188326201
>>188326252
>Why are you so focused on mage when it's literally a toss up
BECAUSE it's literally a toss up you DUMB CUNT

>>188326275
an adventure wing is 700g
that's about 2 weeks of daily quests
a standard cycle is 2 years
doesn't seem too unreasonable to me.

>>188326458
>A class is at a disadvantage therefore it's bullshit and I hate it
>I love classes that have more than enough answers to my stuff consistently though!
You make no sense

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>>188326275

>An adventure takes too fucking to get if you are all f2p.
I have bought every adventure with gold and there never was a time I didn't have enough for the next wing. You just suck at managing your gold.

>>188326275
The only thing retreaded here is you. Retreaded an old bait.

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>>188324291
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>>188324291

Reposting because this is good info for decklists

>>188326419

good goy

>>188326417
>be a normie
>come back to the game after months of doing other shit
>want to play babbling book because it looks cool
>have to grind 2100 gold instead of going into your collection and dusting a handful of useless cards
>immediately quit to do other shit with your life instead of starting up hearthstone again and maybe buying some packs or an arena run once you're hooked
You people really, really don't understand the HS target demographic

>>188324704

unbalanced bullshit.
team 5 will hire you.

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>>188322178
They'll be casting remotely from the nearest Buffalo Wild Wings

Why compete when you already have a worlds spot and Blizzard is guaranteed paying you

>>188326660
to a guy that's doesn't follow tournaments, this post almost reads like markov chain nonsense.

>>188323372
I would guess Murlocs or Druid ditto but it could be anything

>>188326858
wow, didn't know he's that much of a manlet

>>188324704
>Druid - Attack gained by your hero lasts two turns.
nigga

>>188326839

we do.
that doesn't change the fact its a change for the worse.

>>188326660
>lick noblord's balls because he knows his shit about deckbuilding and lineups
oh yeah that's real good info, real helpful, you really needed two fucking paragraphs to make that point

>>188323982
>he doesn't run Valet in every Mage deck

Quest Mage isn't a real deck

>>188326991

think of it as a 2 health weapon that also damages minions that go face.

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>>188326839
Bless this anon. He understands how I feel.

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>>188326282
I just came back to the game, last time I played this game you could use Kel'Thuzad. I made a deathrattle hunter deck like I always do and I failed, so I caved and made a beast deck and made the hero card with all my dust, which got me to rank 15, but jade druids, asshole priests, and mage faggots kept me in my place.

Is there any way to make a decent hunter deck?

>>188327115
Quest mage is the only real mage deck right now my man.

>>188327128
>Druid has a shit ton of cards that give him attack
>Make that last two turns
That would honestly be fucking worse than Jade.

>>188324704

>>Rogue - Your spells have Lifesteal.

GIVE IT TO ME

>>188325539
Pirate Warrior is the second/third best deck in the game and easily made with that, Jade Druid +Aggro Drukd is getting nerfed probably but it's the best and probably will still be

Secret Mage if you have Kara, Priest if you have Kazakus and Raza

>>188327034
What is the purpose of this point? I just casually wanted to share decklists and resources for lineups to someone who asked about it, Jesus

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the card the game needs.

>>188327204
>and made the hero card with all my dust
noooooooo....
you dun fucked it up

>Is there any way to make a decent hunter deck?
your list doesn't look half bad. dispatch kodo and sand worm can leave, hero might as well stay in, the damage is done now. Maybe just one deadly shot instead of two.
consider hyena, hunter's mark, explosive and freezing trap, cat trick, flare, spellbreaker (or owl even), bittertide hydra, leeroy as possible replacements

>>188327654
no the fuck it doesn't

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>>188327654
>find any card in your deck card

Yeah because that has worked so well in other card games.

>>188327654
kill yourself

>>188327654
>wanting exodia mage to be t1

make it a legendary at least

>>188327654
>discover any card in your deck
kys and burn the corpse please

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>>188327219
"no"

How to fix druid:

>Skulking Geist
Battlercry now destroy cards that cost 1 mana, 5 mana and 10 mana in both player's hand and deck.

Y/N

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>pull spooky spoder
So what should I change from this list?

### Custom Druid
# Class: Druid
# Format: Standard
# Year of the Mammoth
#
# 2x (0) Innervate
# 2x (1) Naturalize
# 2x (2) Wild Growth
# 2x (2) Wrath
# 1x (3) Crypt Lord
# 1x (3) Jade Blossom
# 1x (4) Arfus
# 2x (4) Strongshell Scavenger
# 2x (4) Swipe
# 2x (5) Druid of the Claw
# 2x (5) Nourish
# 2x (5) Spreading Plague
# 1x (6) Cairne Bloodhoof
# 1x (6) The Black Knight
# 1x (7) Malfurion the Pestilent
# 2x (8) Primordial Drake
# 1x (8) The Lich King
# 1x (9) Hadronox
# 1x (10) N'Zoth, the Corruptor
# 1x (10) Ultimate Infestation
#
AAECAZICCqQD+AzgrALLvAKHzgLCzgKR0AKZ0wKv0wK24gIKQF/pAf4BtAXEBuQIyccCoM0CjtACAA==
#
# To use this deck, copy it to your clipboard and create a new deck in Hearthstone

>>188327910
>using statistics for all of Legend
>not end of season high legend where aggro gets cucked out of the game by the actual meta
lmao if you think secret "no good matchups" mage and cucktrol are real decks compared to exodia

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>>188327791
Do not talk shit on gen 1 pokemon tcg. Hearthstone will never be as fun as that shit. It's like if Warlock on meth was the meta. They need cards like pic related in modern card games.

I'm bored let's think of some unique Tavern Brawls

1. Health can go above 30, caps at say 99

2. Battlecries are now summon effects

3. Premade dual class decks, Jade Druid/Shaman, Beast Hunter/Druid, Freeze Mage/Shaman, Timewarp Rogue/Mage, Healburn Priest/Pally etc

4. All cards are reverted to their prenerf "best" state, 2 mana UTH and Buzzard, Pyro, undertaker, leper, 4 mana Leeroy, etc

5. You can see your opponents hand but not your own

6. Quest decks but the classes are mismatched

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>tfw playing hearthstone at 5 am after staying awake for 16 hours, completely unfocused, making rank 25 misplays, sometimes even failing to drag removal at correct target and hitting your own minion instead
I don't know what I'm doing with my life anymore

>>188328076
It's good if you remove hadronox

>>188327715
Would tolver warden be a good idea?

Is the hunter quest any good?

>>188326871
(N+1) generally refers to the idea that you want your lineup to still work if you get dicked or highrolled in one or two games by still having winnable matchups against everything else with your remaining decks/having the flexibility of multiple answers for one deck

>>188328174
no and hell no.

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2 legendaries in my final pity pack for frozen throne. saving time now

>>188328025
What does this hit besides druid cards? Finja, vilespine, doppelgangster, thrall lyra/raza/elise, dreadlord?

>>188328278
Well, I'm glad I didn't craft the quest.

>>188328298
I wonder, can you get duplicate legendaries in a single pack?

>>188328025
>Destroy 1/3rd of some builds' deck
are you retarded

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>>188328298
and rip

>>188328298
Rexxar and Garrosh

>>188328445
Arfus is not too bad
well, not as bad as bolvar at least

>>188328445
I'm so sorry

>>188328110
>20% winrate against pirates
>35% winrate against Aggro Druid and Paladin
>viable at end of season high legend

Do you even watch streams of high legend/browse twitter/read vs report? Who the fuck finished high playing Quest Mage. At least the fedoralord apx got top 100 or so with his tempo waifu

>>188328110
>End of season high legend
You have to be in that meta for it to apply to you, anon.

>>188328635
That's something a lot of people don't seem to get. Everybody is always so worried about what legend players are using when none of them are legend themselves. Worry about where you are / will likely make it. From there you can start worrying about shit farther up.

>>188328119
All I remember was rain dance and some haymaker decks, what are you referring to?

>>188328445
Bolvar is good and i wish I could unpack him

>>188328445
bolvar isnt bad you just gotta combo him with that 1 mana pally taunt and its allgood

id dust arfus, hes trash

>>188328835
and what exactly is good about bolvar

>>188328536
>Do you even
Obviously not, I was just baiting, I'm sorry
Are you talking about the same list apx had been playing with tony and burgly bully? Did he change anything about it in the last days of the season?

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>>188327204
This is what I've been running atm. My climb has been reasonable. so far.

Run Hungry Crabs or midpally will beat you off the board in the early game. Macaws are too random and easy to clear before you can Razormaw.
Runts are too optimistic. Dire Wolves curve out from Alleycat and combo with Dispatch Kodo.
Add Bearsharks. Buff them up with Houndmaster and Razermaw to make Priest, Mage and Rogue cry.
Find at least one 5-drop. Tundra Rhino are decent.

>>188327715
The Death Knight makes the cut in midhunter imo. If control decks manage to stabilize, it gives you a chance to win the value game by printing endless broken minions. Also it clears Living Mana.

>>188328919
He is a minion that is extremely difficult to kill in a class filled with buffs that comes out the turn right before spikeridge steed and can buff himself when your divine shields pop.

>>188329035
I was only half serious. He's alright but not worth the craft imo
at any rate, he seems fun as fuck

>>188328919
If you opened one up you can't open him up again.

>>188328913
Arfus is trash I agree. Bolvar I won't dust, considering he's new they might have some OP shit he can combo with in future expansions.

>>188328823
Haymaker decks is what I'm referring to. Hyper agro, and aggressive discarding. It's like a cross between zoo and discardlock. Oh and also energy removal to destroy anyone who dared to be even slightly slower then you. So much fun.

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>>188329206

FUCK JADES
FUCK DRUID
FUCK THIS GOD DAMN GAME

>>188329402
this is a pro-hearthstone general, friend

>there are people, IN THIS VERY THREAD, who still have any kind of hope regarding the Brode Brigade and their dev capabilities.
How

>>188329459
Too fucking bad
I'm tired of ramp in to UI and filling their fucking hand and making big guys

>>188329513
hmm, well played!

>>188329402
Can Pirate warrior stop it?

>>188329513
you're really killing my good mood

>>188329459

no it isn't.

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>>188329095
>*teleports from your opponents hand onto the board
>"Nothing personnel, kid"

>>188329653
it always has been

>>188329870
>1 out of 30 of my opponents cards which they have 5 turns to draw make them not lose the game to a buffed bolvar
wtf i hate bolvar now

>>188329402
>plagues your wide board
>ramps to 10
>refills hand while gaining tempo and a life lead

nothing personal, kid

>>188330048
>You play 5 mana do nothing
>They push 12 face damage and develop more
>You steed + kill a guy at best
>Spellbreaker and send attacks face
>"THE BATTLE IS OVER - YOU WIN!

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Alright I made a bunch of retarded cards today too, I need to stop.

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>Expansion/Adventure Quality:
Curse of Naxxramas > Blackrock Mountain >>>>>> Knights of the Frozen Throne > Journey to Un'Goro > Goblins VS Gnomes > One Night in Karazhan > Whispers of the Old Gods >>> League of Explorers > The Grand Tournament >>>>>>>> Mean Streets of Gadgetzan

>Expansion Cinematic Trailer Quality:
Curse of Naxxramas > Mean Streets of Gadgetzan > The Grand Tournament > One Night in Karazhan > Whispers of the Old Gods > Goblins VS Gnomes > Blackrock Mountain >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> League of Explorers >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Knights of the Frozen Throne > Literal Shit >>> Journey to Un'goro

Just posting some straight facts.

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>>188329035
damn this IS a nice deck
mind if I steal it?
I named it STD by the way, because alleria has all these crabs

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what deck will get me to legend in wild?

there's so much fuckery going on i'm wondering if its easier to make legend in standard

>>188330246
Why the fuck would my opponent have 12 power on board when I 'm playing murloc paladin? The game would already be fucking over.

>>188330626
Giant druids.
Not even the wild is safe from druids.

Is there ANYTHING holding Aggro Druid back besides Jade Druid?

I easily hate Aggro Druid more than Jade Druid.

I mean fuck Ultimate Infestation for basically ERASING EVERY SINGLE CONSEQUENCE there could ever be for ramping up but I hate Aggro Druid because it's just such a cunt to play against.

>>188330304
>sludge belcher and I'LL SHOW THEM ALL in top quality
>msg last
Spotted the controlcuck

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>>188329012
Just screencapped a vod. Honestly he probably got a good placing playing Druid on the last day like everyone else, but here's what he's been playing recently.

Definitely harkens back to last meta's Secret Mage lists, K have been trying Bonemares over AI for a few weeks with the Bully Tony package and that card just has to be right. Spellbreaker might be a good call just to completely swing the Paladin matchup and Conjurer is great but I've been playing two and feel like it's hard to find time for both.

>>188330792
And why do you need bolvar then

>>188330048
PW, jade and token druid all run spellbreaker now. Priest runs silence and mass dispell. Come to think of it, this might be the most silence-heavy meta since the owl nerf. nuff said

>>188330967
Playing Evolve Shaman and keeping Devolve usually fucks them upside. Best if you doubledown with a Maelstrom Portal to clear those devolved minions.

>>188330967
Fatigue mage beats Aggro druids somewhat consistently

>>188330289
Honestly that's not that bad, it thins your deck

>>188331141
>>188331223
It's just that I made this cool Tempo Rogue deck with some weapon synergy I'm happy with, but it keeps getting ruined by Druids somehow magically knowing I have a turn 3 Shadowblade and saving their stupid fucking weapon destroying pirate until then instead of playing it on the first turn like they would if I played any other Rogue deck in existence. Like they just fucking KNOW.

>>188330514
Go for it, familio. We gotta help each other out in these trying times.

>>188322432
>7 months = few months

>>188330304
>naxx
>best expansion

I agree with MSG at the bottom along with LoE but I'd put KFT right above it, Un'Goro was objectively the most healthy meta we've ever had although my heart goes out to the Patron Combo Druid Handlock days

>>188331374
Wrecked

>>188331374
Well, if I was fighting a class with weapon synergy, obviously I would be keeping a corsair for that.

>>188331428
KFT gets demoted several ranks simply because it introduced Spreading Plague AND Ultimate Infestation. The only problem with Naxxramas was Undertaker, and once that was dealt with, it was amazing and memorable--especially since so many basic cards and decks from the unupgraded Hearthstone could still survive.

>>188330626
Pirates, Paladin of all kinds, Control and Aggro Shaman, Combo Priest, Renolock, Tempo/Secret Mage, not being bad

>>188331493
You don't KNOW what deck I'm playing! I could have been playing Miracle or Mill or any other netdeck that doesn't rely on weapon synergy! But nooo five Druids in a row magically read my god damn mind and play Corsair on 3 when I'm playing my OC deck and Corsair on 1 when I'm playing literally any other Rogue deck.

>>188331445
I hope every one of your cards becomes like Blade Flurry.

>>188330967
Control Mage, Priest, and Control Warrior all beat Aggro Druid, nerfing jades would probably reduce its position in the meta if they hit jade mechanic (which is the real issue other than Plague)

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>>188331374
It's called playing around things, but as someone who plays Rogue often I know your pain

>>188331773
>It's called playing around things
IT'S THE FIRST TURN
THEY DON'T FUCKING KNOW WHAT TO PLAY AROUND YET
THEY ALWAYS PLAY CORSAIR ON THE FIRST TURN WHEN I'M PLAYING ANY ROGUE DECK *EXCEPT* THE WEAPON BASED ONE

>>188331658
You never play your Corsair first against rogue, even making them waste 2 mana for a hp is tempo advantage

>>188331374
thats wnhy you dont paly weapon rogue
many decks are carrying corsairs and oozes because of pirate warrior

>>188331112
>And why do you need bolvar then
To have a threat to kill my opponent with? Duh?
>>188331112
>PW, jade and token druid all run spellbreaker now.
So? the chance of drawing that before turn 5 is low, you don't keep it in the mulligan and getting rid of their silence allows you to buff other things and play tirion without being afraid. Are you going to stop playing tirion in your deck because it can be silenced?

>>188331090
yeah cutting AI in favor of just naturally being heavier sounds like a good call
have you played many games against paladin while on conjurer/bonemare? I feel like it's hard to make space for a good bonemare turn in that matchup, but idk your list/playstyle so your impression might differ

>>188331895
>You never play your Corsair first against rogue
Yeah you say that except these fucking Druid players are god damn psychics wasting their God given talents on playing Corsair first turn whenever I play every other Rogue deck because they know Rogue is always going to be too slow to respond to their stupid god damn aggro board, unless they're using weapon synergy, in which case they suck off the nips of the Aether and magically fucking plan ahead fifty million turns while knowing I am going to have no choice but to use my Shadowblade on their retarded Innervated Flappy Bird.

>>188331907
>thats wnhy you dont paly weapon rogue
Everyone else gets to play weapons and I finally found a core that generally works except against mutant god damn Druids with their fucking brain tendrils molesting my quivering grey matter.

>>188331658
Have you considered that they might have topdecked it and/or been saving it for a good lotus/POTW turn? "random tech card out of nowhere that would normally be played on curve" is usually a topdeck

Is there even a point to joining the druid degeneracy? I hate that fucking deck but I wanna hit legend.

Am I gonna make it? or am I gonna get stuck in the eventual 50% winrate when every single fucking match is a mirror?

>>188332178
>Have you considered that they might have topdecked it
OH SO MAYBE GOD IS JUST ON THEIR SIDE.
MAYBE IT'S ONE THIRTY IN THE MORNING AND THIS IS GOD'S WAY OF GETTING ME TO FUCKING SLEEP.
WELL GOD MAYBE I WOULD HAVE GONE TO BED IF I HAD JUST RANKED UP DIDN'T YOU THINK OF THAT.

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I'm not having fun

>>188330304
Are you joking? All the overpowered deathrattle shit in Naxx was annoying and getting rid of it and GvG was one of the best points in hearthstone history.
Journey to ungoro > Whispers of the old gods> Blackrock mountain > League of explorers > The grand tournement > Mean streets > Naxxramas > GvG > One knight in kharazan > Frozen throne

>>188332227
>this is the current state of rogue players
And here I was proud getting golden with Oil Rogue. Take a chill pill, dude.

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>>188332339
Listen I'm just venting, don't fag it up like we're related or something just because we happen to play the same class. Like there's a Rogue clan or something?

>>188332241
what rank are you that ladder isn't 50% jade druid, 25% aggro druid and 25% kazak priest

>>188332227
>OH SO MAYBE GOD IS JUST ON THEIR SIDE.
...yes? use a card tracker plugin and it becomes quickly obvious that most bad luck streaks come from draw luck more than matchmaking luck
if god wants to fuck you, he will do so in the middle of a match rather than pitting you against people with next level mindgames

>>188332059
Actually I was suggesting that he might be right and keeping AI/cutting the greedy stuff to go faster with Books and Sorcs is the way to go

I haven't actually seen much high-roll priest in action on ladder but watching Dog play it, just looks ridiculous.
Lacks consistency but the chance to just outright win turns 4-6 is pretty nutty.

>>188332486
Rogue players are like Freeze players, a relatively small group of combo fanatics

>>188332621
>if god wants to fuck you, he will do so in the middle of a match rather than pitting you against people with next level mindgames
You don't get to decide what God wants to do only God gets to decide what God wants to do.
You fucking.
Fucking sacrilegious piece of shit.

>>188332023
>the chance of drawing that before turn 5 is low
AS IS DRAWING BOLVAR
It's as if you're being retarded on purpose

>Innervate Flappy Bird
>Coin innervate Flappy Bird
I too love to lose on turn 1

>>188332690
Aggro does that too

>>188332314
>Un'goro above Whispers.
>Frozen Throne dead last.
>Mean Streets, A.K.A PATCHES AND JADES above anything.

>>188332696
Not sure what that has to do with you talking like a fag but okay, I mean, there's nothing wrong with being a fag it just happened to resemble the way you talked is all.

>>188332690
>Lacks consistency
biggest problem I have with this deck
it's as if you're playing astral communion, but worse.

>>188332697
>describing how god has been shown to act is now "deciding what god wants to do"
Are you a nigger or just as stupid as one?

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>>188332719

>>188332701
Not drawing bolvar does not lose me the game whereas them not drawing their 1 answer to a buffed bolvar does lose them the game. kys shieldbearer

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>>188332790
The absolute state of /hsg/ posters, stay tilted

>>188332690

It's unbeatable when it high rolls
>t3 coin + Barnes + baby Yshaarj into big Yshaarj
>t4 if both Yshaarjes are still alive you win, if one or both is removed and you revive one you win

>>188332840
You don't KNOW God, only GOD knows GOD.
Are you God? Huh?
If you're God then what number am I thinking?
What number am I thinking RIGHT NOW?
That's right.
You're probably... a fucking... a fucking Hindu.
You probably think God is a cow.
Fucking.
God isn't a fucking cow he's surrounded by angels that are rings of fire covered with eyes, okay, get your fucking message straight.

>>188332932
No man I'm not tilted I'm straight, that's like the opposite of being on a tilt, being straight.
I know you're not straight I'm just saying I'm okay with that.
I accept you and love you and respect you.

>>188332779
At least mean streets had playable cards for almost all classes besides the handbuff ones. Frozen has overpowered cards only for priest and druid and then rest are all shit.

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>>188332883
>implying a 5/7 wins the game
>calls other people shieldbearer

>>188332960
Are you that retard who was posting the other day about how Jesus has the truth, you don't need the church, churches are just set up to lie to people and gather wealth and power? Because it's kind of the entire fucking point of religious practice that humans can know God, by extension humans can fail to know God, and therefore it's important to put effort into knowing God
If you don't accept that then you don't have faith, you just have a weird relationship with your personal delusions

>>188332960
>What number am I thinking RIGHT NOW?
Is it 5?

Why does Shaman have such shit tier legendaries?

>Get an insane Priest deck in Arena, Kazakus/Raza were my first two picks. LK came later.
>Lose at 3-3 when I tend to average 5-6~ wins. I'm not amazing but I normally get my value out of a run.
>Only felt like I misplayed in any large way in one of those matches.
I like this expansion but it feels as if going first and playing curvestone is stronger than ever in Arena. Or just getting a Hero Card and winning because of that. Delete these from Arena.

>>188333274
>what is spike ridge steed, blessing of kings, rallying blade, other divine shield minions

Valanar should have divine shield.

>>188333478
>what are wonky x-card-combos
shit is what they are.

>>188333550
>a million buff cards that murloc paladin already runs are "wonky combos"
You're so retarded it's pointless to argue with you

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I want to.

>>188333375
Shamans class identity was always being shit.

>>188333613
there are better buff targets than a gutter tier card that dies to everything plus silence.

I don't understand moorabi

Is blizzard not aware they printed spirit echo?
Why is he so criminally understated when the effect isn't even that good?
Why does he cost 6 mana?

Just why?

>>188333397
the simultaneous printing at common of sun'borne valkyr (effect exploitable on 5), cobalt scalebane (effect exploitable on 6), and bonemare (effect exploitable on 7) was a huge sign from blizzard saying "fuck you play curvestone"

>>188333732
Maybe shaman will get more freeze synergy cards next expansion
maybe it's just grimestreet goons 2.0
who knows

>>188333727
>7 health minion with divine shield that comes out on only turn 5 dies to everything
again, the things you are saying are literally retarded.

>>188333732
you are really expecting too much from this dev team

Any nerfs yet?

>>188334207
Swipe damage reduced to 3 and 1.
Jade golems can't grow past 20/20.
Ultimate infestation now only gives 4 armor.

>>188334207
nerf Yurius

>>188333847
not him but it's at least slightly relevant in the jade MU that bolvar + BoK triggers into BGH range compared to most BoK targets which go to 5 or 6

>>188333375
They don't though, Control Shaman is gpkd in wild but just lacks some key early/mid game support and gets dicked by Jade. Hallazeal and Thrall are decent, White Eyes is pretty good

>>188334207
Skulking Geist now destroy cards that cost 5 and 10 mana too.

>>188333478
I'd rather play a Skelemancer over Bolvar honestly

>>188334595
>tfw agro druid is still tier 1

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>>188334504
Mad?

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>>188334749
Muh dick

>Shaman mirror
>opponent has lethal
>he slowly attacks face
>he devolves instead of finishing me off with his last minion
>minion devolves into taunt
>he can't finish me
>I BM him back and kill him

This was the most retarded BM I have ever seen.

>Zodiac demon
>Pull Thane
>summon 2 wights (it doesn't deactivate fanfare like UTSU)
>kill Thane, kill one of the opponent's big guy
>deal 2 damage to opponent's face
>get a free 4/5 ward with bane
>The board goes from 0 things to 5/5, 2 2/1s, and a 4/5 ward with bane
>thinking this is ok

>>188334912
>it doesn't deactivate fanfare like UTSU
2/10 made me reply

>>188335097
It actually doesn;'t.

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high skill gameplay

>>188335578
well bitch? what did your barnes pull?

What deck can I play if I want everyone to know I support Trump?

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>>188335763
1/1 statue guy. I drew ysharj that turn. I'm new to Priest though so I'm not so talented with the deck yet.

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this guy is much better than me at the game

>>188336096
>Not-Druid
You don't even like winning so who cares?

>>188335892
Big Priest

>>188334889
I may have BMed someone before like this and thrown it all away
I laughed and went on to the next game
Zero regrets

>>188336096
Based Druids keeping Priestcucks in their place

>>188336238
Fuck of Druidfag

>>188335972
>talented with a 100% luck based deck

>>188336096

>turn 3 Barnes
You have a chance

>>188336238
druid player OMEGALUL

>>188336335
>posting twitch emotes

This site is 18+ only.

>>188333370
>Are you that retard who was posting the other day about how Jesus has the truth, you don't need the church, churches are just set up to lie to people and gather wealth and power?
No, church is the house of God, why would it be evil, you MORON.

>>188336252
>>188336335
I don't play Druid often and Plague + something else needs to be nerfed 100% but it's not an unpopular opinion to despise Priest in any meta whether it's good or not

Feels good seeing them steamrolled just like the old days

>>188336569
Why you hate Priest so much?

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>>188333370
>you just have a weird relationship with your personal delusions

Like pottery

>>188336681
What do you mean why? It's hard Blue in a game that doesn't allow interaction on your opponent's turn, that's a fucking mistake and I like attrition-style decks

>>188336467
>>188336694
laziest samefag I've seen in my life

Why is token shaman rated so high? If you don't draw Evolve+Dopple early you will lose 99% of the time.

>>188337012
Evolve+doppel isn't their only win condition.

>>188337012
Board spam + bloodlust

>>188337012
if you're never getting chip damage -> bloodlust wins you're doing something wrong

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Im going to marry bomb squad girl

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>>188337165
Im going to marry gnome

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should i get this?

>>188337543
Cringe

>>188337598
whats wrong with it?

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>>188337543
save your money for this instead retard

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>>188337857
i dont like the design. was also considering this btw

>play quest mage
>Tony is at the bottom of my deck almost every game
>play Highlander priest
>shadowreaper anduin is bottom 2-3 card in my deck multiple games in a row
Why does blizzard hate me?
Like why should I play anything other than aggro like Druid or pirates?

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>>188338001
>white

nah cracka check this shit out

>>188338226
>Tony is at the bottom of my deck almost every game
you say that as if it matters

>>188338271
all memeing aside, this actually a cool design even though it's cringy

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Thoughts on this card? I have it and like to use it with 10 mana Kazakus potions. Sometimes I get to use it a couple turns early so even better. Decks are pretty tight nowadays though so not a lot of room for adding or taking away cards.

>>188338345
It does when you're waiting on him to finish the game

>>188337543
imagine seeing a druid main walking down the street wearing this

you'd be tempted to run him over

>>188338271
Why are you posting digital blackface? Delete this image.

>>188338709
you sound like a mage player

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what's the best mage version of the wild naga giants deck?
I'm short a molten giant ever since the nerfs but I'll probably craft one

AAEBAf0EBooB+wbcCvUPiMEC5MICDMAB0wGrBJYF4Qf3DYkOlQ+5Ed4WgrQCmMQCAA==

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>>188339123

>>188339157
Nobody likes Druid players

>>188339487
Nobody likes Priest players. They're all whiny faggots. Druids never whine, even when their only good deck was deleted from the game.

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Daily reminder there is (still) no viable counter to druid

>>188340000
druid

>>188339928
maybe because priest sucked for a long time, and druid has literally never been sub tier 2

>>188339928
>Druids never whine, even when their only good deck was deleted from the game.
What does that have to do with anything? People don't dislike druid players because of their fucking personality issues, they dislike druid players because druid has always been a cancerous anti-fun class

>>188340136
>druid has always been a cancerous anti-fun class
what cancerous anti-fun deck did druid have in kara?

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>>188337165
>>188337279
>midget fetish

>>188340203
Yogg druid

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>Malfurion gets the coin

>>188340136
druid wasnt THAT bad before kft
you had jade idol cancer but that was about it

>>188340273
and what about angry tree noises which was the most oppressive deck for a year straight?

>>188340219
but that deck was fun

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>>188340206
actually...

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>>188340273
Was still the most played class.

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>>188340382
How Team 5 can be so shit at balance never ceases to amaze me

>>188340429
stop playing pedo games

>>188340368
"Fun"

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>>188321962

>got rogue and or hunter quest

>mfw facing yet another priest, warrior or druid

http://howlooongcanthisgoon.com/

>Turn 8
>A druid has managed to ramp, dump his hand and play both ultimate infestations

This is getting stupid.

>>188340136

Druid is actually like the most honest class in the game along with Warrior

Priest now there's a cancerous anti-fun class

only people raging about druid are stupid shillary supporters and shillerverse players...

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>he trades into Tabbycat

>>188340745
>Only class that can cheat the mana curve
>"Honest"

Can we please ban token//aggro druid from the game entirely? Every token deck should be stuck in a separate mode where they can only queue in to other shitty token decks

>>188340745
warrior will always be the most honest class

>>188340771
>2017
>still talking about Hillary
why

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>>188340429
whats the sauce on that image

>>188340827
Just add an option to ban druid. That way all druid players can have 10 minute matchmaking times while they wait for that single person who didn't ban druid.

>>188340992
>the only person who doesnt ban druid is another druid

kek

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>>188340954
Just a mere mention of its name keeps g00k up at night

Unterulterbach

>>188340948
shill detected
SHOO SHOO

MAGA

go lose against more based druids you hunter cuck..

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>Magni Pirate Warrior
Do people have no shame?

>tfw everyone is too busy getting booty blasted by drood to hate on my disgustingly broken raza priest with 70% winrate
Seriously I haven't run into a single deck I can't consistently beat. Even jade druid gets fucked more than 50% of the time

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>>188321962

Fixed Hearthstone. Hire me Blizzard!

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>>188321962
>druid gets nerfed
>higlander priest will be the next op deck
>druid doesn't get nerfed
>we get to lose against druids for 8 months

>>188341123
Highlander Priest is only good because of how good Druid is at suppressing all the other decks

>>188341109
you must be legend by now