/wowsg/ - World of Warships Admiral

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WE NEED MORE SCHOOL CRUISERS

ded

What's the point of aircraft carriers in a game about fleet action, when in real life aircraft carriers operated in distant waters far away from ship-to-ship combat?

I mean, this was the reasoning that Wargaming used to explain why submarines aren't in the game, since submarines never operated in fleet battles and historically operated as dedicated packs against merchant shipping.

>>188152658
>submarines never operated in fleet battles
They did though.

>>188152658
>I mean, this was the reasoning that Wargaming used to explain why submarines aren't in the game, since submarines never operated in fleet battles and historically operated as dedicated packs against merchant shipping.
t. Wehraboo

oi lads

been thinking about downloading again, but last time I played was around beta/release

how are carriers? are nips still for torping and claps for killing planes and torping? are there more CV lines in? are claps still overall better?
did the strafing mechanic stick around? it looked extremely awkward, is there more shit like that?

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Uhh, how exactly is this an improvement?

>>188157023
muzzle velocity/ ap pen. not that it matters because the ship is trash

Why do Soviet ships gets a separate Imperial Russian Navy flag for older ships but German ships don`t get Imperial German Navy flags?

>>188157023
The 130's are straight up better because they are much faster and have less travel time. If you end up liking the ship and keep her around, a dedicated captain with BFT and AFT.

>>188157386
Are you kidding? Bogatyr is the best sealclub cruiser.

>>188158602
oops, posted before I was done.
>If you end up liking the ship and keep her around, a dedicated captain with BFT and AFT
...will do wonders since the 130's do benefit from those skills, while the 152's don't.

>>188158602
>muh sealclubbing
*falls asleep*

>>188156210
These posts should answer your questions:
>>188140774
>>188141494
>>188144619

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>>188158272
Don't forget the period-accurate American flags.

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Tsushima as scenario when?

>>188159256
sounds kinda like an exaggerated version of what was back then, ty, I might try it tomorrow

>the turkfag of [HOTEL] is an autocrat
never would have guessed

>>188156210
Only been playing a few months, but I can try to answer you?

IJN are good for their tech tree CVs and most of the other ships are lacking in some way or another, Japanese torpedoes can be seen from space almost and there's numerous ways to detect torpedoes.

Americans get (mostly) pretty bad tech tree CVs but great premium ones, the stealthiest T10 battleship, the best AA and a range of other good ships in general.

Germans get a bunch of good ships with great side armour and shit deck armour, plus secondary gun memes with the Bismark. Crap AA though from what I've seen and their CV is guaranteed replies every time you play a game.

Russians get the best of all worlds because Russian bias, but only cruisers and destroyers to choose from.

British get something completely different and possibly the best T10 cruiser, only two ship lines to pick from though.

French cruisers are for cucks and people who hate themselves.

Strafe is around with manual drops, but only for T6 CVs and above.

Claps?

>>188159991
claps, bongs, sovoks, nips, frogs

>>188158272
Because USSR did nothing wrong, komrade while Kaiserreich flag is used by nazis in denial... or something.

>>188156210
If you chose to play again, get a referral for your server before you play a match. You'll get a free Texas and some other goodies.

>>188159957
>He's not a member of the benevolent inner circle
lol sux to be u

>>188160281
that's for new players is it? or some kind of scroll of ressurection like wow shit

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>discordrama is about to begin, again
Let's stop before it's too late.

>>188160454
I believe you can use the referral if you've been away from WoWs for at least 3 months.

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>>188160747
gimme one for eu then, we'll see how wg percieves me

>>188160454
It's either new players or players who haven't played for 3 months

>>188161084
Here you go
https://playtogether.worldofwarships.eu/invite/LKvlv39

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>>188161309
looks like it worked, we'll see once I get the client

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>>188160624
>mfw reading the discord and the thread for practically the past year

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coming back after so long I feel like PT makes doing the cruiser dance a lot easier than the old SA

My DD game is so shit right now tho it hurts

how do I play the lexington?

I KNOW it can be played well because unicunts with 70% wrs and 100k+ damages exist.

Damage isnt an issue because with 013 I just need to bap 2-3 BBs. But why is my winrate 45%?

What am I doing wrong, that I'm doing right with shokaku (72% wr) ?

>grinding Orion
>doing quite well
>most battles are basically Orion teams vs Orion teams
>get up to 60k dmg average in the Orion
>suddenly today I get two battles in a row with two CV per team where I get focused at the beginning of the battle and removed because there's nothing at that tier that can really stop a CV
I smell statpadders and XVM.

>>188170019
>. But why is my winrate 45%?
Maybe you should try to hunt DD, instead of BB

>>188170392
>dying to autodrop CVs

>>188170569
Go get fucked in the throat by an STD-ridden rapefugee you fucking living waste of organic matter.

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Is this just some random clan?

What prize do they give you? Shekels?

>>188170019
You either buy Enterprise to play a proper USN CV or just go for IJN. As IJN CV you have Air Control, Spotting, fast recycling and damage.
As USN you either have air control but no damage, damage but no air control or 111 and good spotting while neither having good air control or damage.

A 222 loadout is just the best overall and downright better than 111.

>>188171159
it's a community event run by WG, there's some forum posts about it when it happens
basically you just kill the corgi player and you get 500 doubloons and a bunch of signal flags

>>188170960
Butthurt Alert! Level Anal Rape.

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>>188170960
What the fuck

What's up with Russian bias meme? VMF has like 3 ships that you can get, that can be considered powerful. (Khaba, Moskva and Kutuzov)

>>188176208
Is that Keanu Reeves?

how do premiums work?
do they get normal xp that I can use to research any ship? or will I have to use dubloons to convert that to free xp?

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>>188177548
>or will I have to use dubloons to convert that to free xp?
Do you even have to ask? Of course you have to convert exp. Pic related.
Anyway prems are captain training and credit grabbing machines, I think only Lo yang has bonus to free exp that you get.

>>188177548
That's right, the ship XP you earn with premium ships is stuck on the ship the same as XP you earn with elite ships. The advantage of premium ships is that you can use a captain on them which is specialised to a different ship of the same nation and his skills will work at full effectiveness even if he is undergoing retraining.

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huh

So if I put my captain in a premium ship and he earns enough xp to level up, do I have to retrain him again when I put him back in his original ship?

>>188179996
>She was built in Britain and then transferred to the Royal Netherlands Navy. In 1951, the ship was sold to Indonesia

Huh, so we get British destroyers flying Indonesian flags, before we get actual British destroyers. Neat!

Gotta pander to your SEA customers, I guess.

>>188161309
>>188161614
that worked exceptionally well, I got everything after one battle BUT
for some reason I also got 80k free xp (i think) that would skip me up to tier 7

>>188176523
I hope so

>>188181413
>I also got 80k free xp
Part of the package.
Don't waste it in one go. Glad everything worked out well, Don't forget to say hello in /vg/ chat,

>>188181137
>Gallant

can someone access wotapi?

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Those things are devilish.

>>188152658
>its a butthurt player who cant stand aircraft carrier rape episode

go play hentai faggot

>>188180545
And I'm still a little confused about training and re-training in general. Can a captain only be trained in one ship at a time? I always thought they retained their training for each ship they've been on and could freely move around previous ships without having to retrain. I moved my North Carolina captain back to my New Mexico so I could participate in ranked, which didn't require any retraining, so I thought i was set. But then when the season was over I moved him back to my NC and it said he needed retraining.

How did that work? Was it because he earned a skill point while in the New Mexico?

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>>188185180
I don't watch weeaboo garbage.

>>188170019
Lexington is dead, just paly shokaku, if you are forced to play lexington, go AS

Game is dead. :( even RN BB couldn't boost interest of new players to the game. Soon even largest server (EU) will be forced to wait for a long time to game.
Time kill wowsg. RIP WoWS, your life may be short but you introduced a lot of people to cute boats

>>188185164
they look like Bofors

Tried the game out back when the kraut tree had just been added, have there been any major gameplay changes since then?

>>188159991
>Strafe is around with manual drops, but only for T6 CVs and above.

Wait, are you saying that you can't use manual bomb/torpedo aim on lower tier carriers anymore?

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>Katori for sale on premium shop


Is nothing fucking sacred anymore? God damn.

>>188187353
What the fuck.

>>188186148
We were just short of 30k people today, doesn't look so bad.
On the other hand, backwater servers such as SEA and NA...

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I finally did it reddit!

>>188159991
>Russians get the best of all worlds because Russian bias

Potatoes literally have the worst ships in game except for T10.

>>188193415
besides this being wrong, even if you were correct T10 is the tier that matters most for OP ships, because there is no tier of ships above it to help keep it down

>>188193415
It's like the light at the end of the gulag.

>>188193658

Their T10 ships are not even better than competition. They are good but not great.

Japan is the best nation overall.

Brit BB line

T3: who cares
T4: nice HE, bad turret-speed/AP/HP, good turret layout
T5: nice HE, bad turret-speed/AP/HP, good turret layout
T6: better/worse warspite
T7: nice HE/armour/stealth/AA

Does anyone have any views on T8+?

>>188195060
Like t7.

They literally shit all over everything.
baBBies wet dream. Shoot HE that deals as muhc damage as AP pens, AA that deletes whole squadrons, better camo than most cruisers.

>>188195503
I thought Monarch AA was meant to be pretty short-ranged and mediocre?

KGV does apparently have colorado-tier AA which is nice, but it seems like more of a punitive than a preventative measure (Kaga will rape you either way).

On another note: AFT or fire prevention for the tier 4 skill after CE?

>>188195749
Fires seem like a non-issue on the tier 9 and 10 with their super heal.

Can someone give me a break-down on all the Destroyer lines?

>>188196984
Japs focus on torps and have usually the lowest detectability.
Burgers focus on short range firepower and good smoke. Torps are very short range until tier 7.
Nazi botes get hydro at tier 6, mediocre torps, shitty smoke, and take extra damage form AP.
Commy line to khaba goes fast and shoots stuff, the other one trades firepower for torps and a bit of AA.

>>188190747
>there are people that paid $400 to collect the Katori less tham 1 year ago

>>188190747
Maybe the ship will finally get buffed?

>>188197679
Fuck that noise. I won mine in a contest. All it cost me was 4 days of spare time.

>>188197679
I got mine in a supercontainer

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should I be taking AR, LS or smoke in the clemson?

>>188197679
>>188198086
>>188199025
I did a simple mission set

>>188199764
That's what I meant, it took me probably 4 days to grind them all.

>>188199741
nigga who gives a fuck it's a low-tier DD, are you intentionally trying to go clubbing?

>>188199741
I should add you fucked up by selecting ES over Last Stand

>>188200172
ah, yeah was pretty easy.
i always love it when Wows has the missions for a free ship if i have enough time to get it/ easy enough to do

>>188200202
I'm nearly done with my Nicholas grind but I'd still like to know

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>Khaba has fucking Repair Party now
Did WG think the ship is not broken enough? Should've added radar and sonar while they're at it.

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Alright boys, lets see what we got.

Pray for me.

>>188200470
I hope they do more like that

>>188201814
>gamlbingproblem
tell us more anon

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>>188201814
Awesome!

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>>188202292

>>188201297
But you have to unequip the smoke generator so it's totally balans))))
Nevermind that at 43 kn speed carrying smoke is pretty useless

I bought a zep.

>>188202286
>Go down to the Indian Casinos for my birthday
>They all give you free spins for their machines when it's your first time visiting
>I win $500 off my free spins
>Put it all back in the machine to try and double it
>Proceed to win and lose $500 all within 10 minutes of my first time gambling
>Since I won it all on free spins I technically didn't lose any of my money, but it still felt like I did
>10 hours and 4 different casinos later I spent close to another $500 of my own money now trying to win back "my money"
>Go home before I lose more
>Have reoccurring dreams of playing the slots
>Return to the casinos every once in a while
>Never win like that again, mostly just break even if i'm lucky
>Never truly satisfied

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>>188202292


I Have an honest question for all of you tonight, /wowsg/.

Do any of you guys use the "special" modifications that drop from supercontainers?

shiggity bumpity bump

its greg's birthday today.

wish greg a happy birthday.

Happy birthday greggo

>>188191165
I know right? It's annoying when your AA gets fucked up like that.

>>188196984
>IJN
Stealth and torp-focussed, usually poor guns and low HP

>USN
Smoke and close-range-focussed, decent guns throughout as well as good stealth and strong torps at higher tiers.

>VMF
Speed and gun-focussed, mediocre to poor stealth and maneouvrability, they work best when they can keep the range open.

>KM
The ultimate cap contesters, they trade HE dmg/min for HAS. Their torps deal less damage than others, but reload relatively quickly making them surprisingly useful.

>>188197679
I got mine from an event shop over a year ago. Could've picked some other ship, but no ragrets.

>>188199741
LS is the cornerstone of every DD build.

>>188203927
I have the spotter plane mod on Warspite, engine boost mod on some DDs and the MN cruiser I'm grinding and HAS mod on Lo Yang. The recent slot reshuffle has made a lot of them more viable.

I have no motivation to play. What should I do?

>>188208379
Then don't play, who fucking cares? Get a life or something.

>>188208379
Not play. Wait for a PT so you can enjoy some carefree matches and come back to your live account with a day of premium.

Will somebody buy me a Mutsu? I'd suck your dick as compensation.

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> the city of Premium CV players

>>188210134
kys greg

>>188203927
I use the speed boost one on my frog t10 cruiser. Can just stay boosted forever.

>>188187278
T5 and 6 CVs Can't manual bomb/torp anymore since wargaming though it was smart to take out the sealclubbing from t4-5 but all it does is move sealclubbing to T6

>>188211746
You mean 4-5 right

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>Wichita in WoW Blitz

Neat

>>188212290
Yes and the best thing about it is that T5 CVs will still get in 2v2s with T6 CVs who can just strafe the piss out of them.

>>188213117
isn't it the tier 8 of that game?

>>188213637
Yes.

>>188213117
>reload booster
i've thought it would be neat to add this maybe for a ship(s) gimmick, but i've always thought there would be a down side to it's activation like a higher chance of detonation/more dmg taken
>>188214032
can you post the tree?

also, reload booster for my Des Moines with adrenaline rush when?

>>188203927
Engine boost mod is good on DDs and French CAs. Smoke mod is amazing on Perth. Radar mod is good for Chapayev, Donskoi and Moskva.

>>188214241
>also, reload booster for my Des Moines with adrenaline rush when?

Diminishing returns. It makes almost no sense on a 5.5 sec reload. It would, even with max AR, only bring it down about a second.

>>188214391
How the fuck is it diminishing returns? It doesn't matter whether it reduces the reload by 1 second or 10 seconds, it's about the % time reduced.

>>188213154
>>188212290
May as well skip to T6 at that point

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>>188214241

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Last one. There is also a Soviet cruiser tree that's the same as on PC.

>>188214391
actually, if you went full reload Autism, with reload modification, adrenaline rush (i decided 25% HP to use as a base line) and using the reload booster from WoWs Blitz you could bring the Des Moins' stock reload down from a 5.5 second reload to ~3.49 second reload. I would try it

>>188215458
>>188215667
>>188215861
>>188216086
thanks man, I think it's interesting to see what they did differently for this game, like the Ishizuchi as the tier 4 IJN BB, Takao in the tech tree, and Pensacola & New Orleans moved down a tier with Wichita slotted in tier 8.
I always thought Wichita was tier 8 premium material, I wonder if there useing blitz to test WoWs tech tree ideas, or if the differences between the two games will always be differences

>>188215667
>Takao

>>188215667
>Takao
>Izumo

BUMP
U
M
P

>>188226097
ded game

did anyone ever find the source for >>187973005

>>188228803
it's fake idiot

>>188203927
Radar mod on Des Memes.
56s of screw you DD.

>>188228841
no shit nigger, but who made it?

Ded boats

What are the high points of German DD line?

>KGV
>50 HE shell hits
>only 5 fires

Dude KGV so OP lmao

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Ahaha silly guys, keep the thread alive!

>>188236476
Don't tell me what to do, Umidoori! I'll let the thread die if I want, and you can't stop me!

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>>188237523
>Umidoori

>>188237674
She said "silly guys", so it has to be Umidoori!

Evelyn doesn't browse /wowsg/ any more, ever since Mosh took off the wig.

Concealement expert for brit captains Y/N?

I'm afraid if I don't pick fire prevention it'll come back to bite me in the ass.

>>188237904
You can't burn what you can't see, take CE.

>>188237904
Of course you pick it up you goddamn spastic, it's like asking whether Bismarck picks up BFT and AFT

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>>188237730
Mosh is a faggot, Umidoori is a man, stop being deluded.

>dude the KGV AA is awesome!
>Hiryu just drops me from 3km away and loses no planes

So this... is the power of British AA

>>188238797
Is Grimalkin a man?

How about Iri?

Having a 19pt captain is awesome now that we have elite captain xp

>want to train up a great captain in future? Just use this XP storage!

>>188238930
I don't know who the first is, but Iris is a man.

>>188238890
This is what happens when your long range battery is garbage.
All of them have pathetic long range batteries; situation gets slighty better on higher tiers because at least they get Bofors.

>>188239468
To think the wiki says

>Solid anti-aircraft suite, roughly equivalent to American counterpart Colorado.

Yeah maybe at 2.5km

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the fuck is that

>>188239745
is to attract baBBies))))))))))))

>>188241007

Kaiju invasion event.

>>188241007
it's the thing from halloween last time

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its not like i need guns or anything !

>>188242256
Be glad your gun took the hit and not your hull

>>188242305
died a second later anyway. still kind of sucks to lose 2/3 of your frontal guns

Did 12K in my last T7 BB game, fucking disgusted at myself

>>188242930
Don't worry this is like 70% of what average pubby does.

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>tier IV BB HE spam

y'know, German BBs were interesting with the whole secondaries, turtleback, torpedoes etc.

The Brits? I dunno, I love BBs but they just seem a little boring. Fire HE and hide, yay I'm a cruiser.

>>188246346
So let's list every nation's gimmicks:
IJN
>accuracy and powerful
USN
>powerful and AA
KM
>secondaries and armor
RN
>cruisers

What do you think will be the gimmick of the Regia Marina

Okay so I've never played aircraft carriers until today. How do I win an air battle? Every time I try to engage enemy fighters with my own I lose all my planes with no loss for the other guy. I don't know what I'm doing wrong.

>>188246579
If the littorios are anything to go by, probably similar to the IJN.

Me is poor refugee pls buy me premium botes

>>188246579
If T5 prem is correct, then it will be cruiser tier dispersion and Kawachi tier sigma

>>188249807
>cruiser tier dispersion and Kawachi tier sigma
Meaning?

>>188249914
I'm guessing small horizontal dispersion but large vertical dispersion?

>>188242256
I miss day when Ognevoi come with no guns.

>>188249807
The sigma at t5 is kinda bad for all the battleships, so their meme is probably high accuracy but somewhat low range i guess?

I HATE ANIME REEEE

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Guns? Who needs guns?

>>188251187
Father Stalin says, you are the torpedo, the weapon of proletariat, comrade.

>>188248524
In tier 4 and 5, there's nothing you can do to influence air battle. Just click and pray RNG is in your favor.
Starting from tier 6, strafe is king. You can annihilate multiple squadrons in one go if you can use it correctly. Learn to strafe, it's fucking essential.

Unless you're using USN strike loadout, in which case prepare to get berated by your teammates.

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qt

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>>188252838
nip overengineered garbage

>>188253280
No

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What naval battles from WW2 you wish to see as scenario?

>Tokyo Express
>you play as IJN DD tasked to deliver supplies to some island while evading much more powerful enemy fleet

>Atlantic Raid
>you play as Scharnhorst/Gneisenau or a German DD trying to cause as much destruction as possible to enemy merchant fleet
>around 10 minute mark, RN fleet arrives to fuck your up
>you can either try to fight them or flee

>>188193295
And it's not fun to play. I have no idea why I even expect anything else form a free premium ship.

>>188254196
Sounds nice.

>>188254196
Hunt for Bismarck.
a AI Bismarck with 100000hp

>>188257620
>can be done only in Hood, Nelson, and KGV

>>188257620
Just HE, lmao

>>188249914
>>188250219
Dispersion is the maximum 'circle' that shells can end up in and sigma is the likelyhood of them grouping to the center of the dispersion circle.
So I'd guess he means that they can't have dispersion that flies off all over the place but they won't all group where you want them to consistently.

>>188254196
raid on taranto, wg could just change the killer whale scenarion a bit

>>188251967
I'm sure you do, Orange-kun_Kakoi

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ded

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still dead

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what's the shell meta nowadays?

last time when I played beta in a bb it was AP on all sametier bbs and cas, and he on everything else

are there some simple pointers?

>>188270249
>splashes next to Nagato
Is this the Leyte fleet?

>>188269286
in non-RN BBs you can just AP everything
in RN BBs you can just HE everything
in cruisers if you're shooting at things giving you broadside you can AP but otherwise just HE

>>188270614
yes

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>>188271105
>japans mightiest battlefleet scared off by some DDs
kek

>>188271105
Only exceptions to that are premium BBs.
HE at everything in Ichizushi, AP at every in Warspite. Scharn probably follows cruiser rules.

>>188271405
See, comrade? WoWS IS realistic)))))))

>>188271405
>400 aircraft
>Strength 30 aircraft, losses 52 aircraft

>>188271859
n-nani?

>>188246205
>hiding names
hownew.ru

>navyfield release on steam postponed another 4 days
WAKE ME UP

>>188275418
>wanting to play nanifield
for what purpose?

>>188275418
Which navyfield

Nf1 had a revival few months ago in eu, but playerbase dropped sadly, at least I think

>>188280509
first.
Second is already on steam and it is dead. Like really dead. Steam showed average online of 2 past few days. Compared to that even WoWP/Steal Ocean is alive

>>188280509
>Nf1 had a revival few months ago in eu,
That can be because they announced some return program or so.
So my theory is, that people driven by interest and small bit of nostalgia came, got their lvl 90 seamen, and saw that in practice not just graphics weren't updated in years, but there wasn't any balancing done in a long time. Said thanks, but no thanks, there exists at least one alternative in market now and left.

>>188282083
that would be pretty cool, but kinda strange after this years rerelease

nf2 doesn't exist tho

>>188283590
we had return program, people that were in old server databases got some neat stuff, based on NA version prems

and balance is okay, hardly bad