/dsg/ - Demon's/Dark Souls General

>>188122069
"this is a good game but it's not what I expected"

"omg these pvp patches are awful it just keeps getting worse"

"wait we have to buy the game AGAIN to get the 'real' version?"

most people did not buy DS1 on day 1 so they didn't have to deal with the awful pre-patch izalith and such, so it was a bit unfairly compared (DS2 day 1 had a lot of infinite stunlock combos and spells were absurdly OP).

on top of that, PC players got hit hard by scholar since unlike playstation or xbox players, they had a re-release on the same platform (though From probably considers DX9 vs DX11 "different platforms") and fans did not like the idea that if they bought the base game, they didn't get scholar for "free". There was an upgrade period but most people missed it, I think it was very short for only a few weeks.

It wasn't until after scholar and matthewmetosis's videos started gaining reddit traction that fans really started ripping into the game. There were a few threads early on about how Miyazaki wasn't involved but people didn't consider it a "bad" game until those videos, and it became a meme to then hate on it because of that

post cute

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the most aesthetic part of the set

>>188122450
>that flat roof-of-the-mouth texture
>but also those eyes
It always takes still screenshots to notice details like that.

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>>188122462

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what is a good witch set for ds3? pic related

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>>188122475
YE BOI

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>>188122663
emerald herald is for lewd

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*scratch record*
*freeze frame*
Sooooo, yeah, that's me. Bet you're wondering how I got in this situation, huh?

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who's you're levelupfu?
heres mine

>>188123000
I sort of feel sad about how absolutely useless Anastacia became every single time I replayed the game.
But yes, Bonfire levelup was the best shit ever, made it feel more of a personal jouney.

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>>188123000

I'm on my first playthrough of Dark Souls, so far I've rang the bell after the gargoyles and gotten past the first titanite demon and unlocking that door in the forest before going back to head down for the Lower Undead Burg. It feels like I've been doing things in a weird order but it's all been a blast so far, the claymore is too stronk

Also I summoned that knight to help with the gargoyles and he ended up dying, does that matter at all?

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>>188123000
Using the bonfire made the game have a more lonely feel to it which I felt helped the atmosphere of Lordran.

>>188123479
> It feels like I've been doing things in a weird order
this is a fine order. You don't have the open that door in the forest now (and there is a way to get there without opening it) and the forest is mostly "optional" because you don't need to go there yet, you could just go straight to lower undead burg. But it's not very hard and there's great loot so it's better to do the forest first anyway.

Solaire stays alive even if he dies as a phantom in a battle. However, there's a lot of other things that can make him unable to help you out later, so don't be surprised if he disappears. The NPC questlines in dark souls 1 are very convoluted, I wouldn't worry about them on your first playthrough.

>Obscuring ring invade at Ariandel
>Host doesn't stop summoning phantoms
>Run around the map firing greatarrows, dropping dung pies, surprise profane GS art around corners then running into the mist
>Keep this up for 20 whole minutes, killing 4 blueberries and 2 goldboys
>Finally Host gets trapped between the 2 plague doctors from the church and Vilhelm because he accidentally stepped into the library trying to chase me down at one point
>Jump off the map as they close in on him

I'd rather play this shit than Friday 13th.

>>188123490
Yeah this is true. It enhanced the whole tone and atmosphere of the game which was all about desolation. Anyway my levelupfu is the one from DS3

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>>188123479
>unlocking that door in the forest
With the crest? For it you either killed the blacksmith (VERY stupid thing to do) or wasted 20k for an area that can barely help you as a new player this early in the game (not to mention you can go there without opening the door, it's just very inconvenient). As for the rest, you're pretty much on the intended track. Remember to go back to firelink for events and that upgrading your weapon is far more important than your stats (as long as you can swing your weapons and at least mid if not light roll with your preferred armor

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>>188123000

HEY REMEMBER DS1 LMAO
HERE'S EVERYTHINF YOU DIDN'T WANT FROM DS1
WE REMOVED THE SHINY STUFF BECAUSE EVERYONE LOVES DARK AND GLOOMY RITE
Fucking miyazaki

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So what was your favorite ending /dsg/? mine was pic related.

>>188124312
that ending is pretty sexist though

>>188124312
did they deliberately steal the ending from DeS

how lame

>>188123490
i loved the pace that came with it. Getting 'trapped' in blighttown on that first run was atmospheric as fuck

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thoughts on this?
https://youtu.be/V07r7p4rf3I

So I'm respecing and I'm sort of lost on to how much poise from armor should I get. Planning to use great mace. Doing a google search returns me with year old info and I don't know how accurate is it.

>>188125462
Just wear something fairly heavy and don't worry about poise too much. Breakpoints aren't anywhere nearly as important as they were in DS1 or even DS2.

What are the legs in the 4th one of >>188109264 ?

>>188125662
Ruin, I think.

>>188125578
I don't really want something heavy. How does medium armors go?

>>188125834
You should be fine with something medium, like the basic Knight set.

>>188124260
I know, I fucking hated Dark Souls 2 as well.

Are the Brigand Twindaggers any good? They seem like they'd be pretty fun in PVP.

>>188126053
but DS2 didn't have many references to DS1, and the few it did were just side gimmicks, not actual plotlines or world elements

it also wasn't dark and gloomy at all

>>188126416
>DS2 didn't have many references to DS1 and the few it did were just side gimmicks, not actual plotlines

One of the big themes of Dark Souls 2 was the reincarnation of the Lord Souls, the Old Ones' NG+ Souls make it explicit that the DS1 Lord Souls supposedly reincarnated into the DS2 "Old Ones" which retarded as fuck which is also why DS3 tried it's best to forget that the shitshow that was Dark Souls 2 was rightfully forgotten.

>it also wasn't dark and gloomy at all
Yea because the lighting engine got taken out. It was supposed to be really dark (which I would've liked honestly) but they pulled a total and utter bait and switch with the product, sold the game two times to people and STILL didn't include the original lighting engine.

>>188124260
It's called DARK Souls, candyass. If you want bright and cheery go play something else
>>188124312
That is the most fitting for the character, but the non-stomp version is better
>>188124378
DaS3 is basically DeS2 in a lot of ways

>>188126343
DMB is pretty gud on them

>>188126697
>need to make a sequel to a game that doesn't have a sequel
I imagine an alternate universe where miyazaki didn't force DS1 references in to DS2 and you would be complaining how DS2 didn't take ANYTHING from DS1's story. The references in DS2 are annoying but harmless, and designed to not affect the game if you didn't play DS1. Which is better than having tons of refererences that almost require playing DS1 first to understand half of the shit going on.


>>188126807
>DaS3 is basically DeS2 in a lot of ways
only mechanically, and maybe in some levels like CotD or Ithryll dungeon. It's nothing like DeS in terms of game design.

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>trying to get colorless demon souls

>>188127305
just dupe lmao

>>188127248
>miyazaki
He had barely any involvement. And ds2 would be better off like that, there would be no question that it was its own game with its own story, just with similar things. And even better if it was renamed to Giants' Souls, since that's what the game is basically about. Is the Dark Soul even mentioned anywhere in 2?
Also, regarding DeS, it draws massive amounts of inspiration. Things like Yhorm, the Stormruler, King of the Storm, combining 2 swords, a bunch of shit in Lothric etc

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>>188127248
>you would be complaining how DS2 didn't take ANYTHING from DS1's story

Not really. After DS3 came out, I started appreciating DS2 as it's own "meanwhile in Drangleic" side story.

If they didn't do these really shallow and shitty ties to DS1 and instead focused on DS2's original story and paced the storytelling better, DS2 would've been a much better game.

Everything related to DS1 is handled in a shitty way and Dark Souls 3 was a much better sequel to DS1 BUT

Dark Souls 2 had a lot of self-contained lore that was cool as hell. Eleum Loyce and the whole thing with Ivory Kang and Alsanna was awesome, like it's own small pocket story within the Dark Souls universe, and the story of Vendrick / Nashandra and Velstadt and Raime was pretty dank, the only problem is that the story was presented fairly shittily and you only start getting any real lore at Drangleic Castle at which point the main game is nearly over. Dark Souls 2 has a lot of good stuff but it's buried under mounds of unsatisfying and pointless filler that only exists for the sake of padding out the game.

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>>188127305
>find talisman of god in 4-1
>trade said talisman with the bird
>dupe the soul

>>188127518
>Is the Dark Soul even mentioned anywhere in 2?
is it mentioned anywhere in 1? 3's the only game I know of that actually calls out the dark soul as something distinct. 1 was just extremely vague about everything. The only thing that could be construed as the "dark soul" is the soul of manus.

2 has an interesting and unique story of its own despite the references. But 3 is BURIED underneath it's references, so much so that cool things like the religion of the deep, King lothric, Sulyvahn, profaned capital, or the backstories of major characters take a back seat to LOL ANDRE. There was a seriously cool story about colliding continents and kingdoms with their own views on fedual kingdom falling apart underneath the weight of its own religious propaganda.

What sucks about DS3's references is that they take such preference over the actual story that we got cheated out of a good standalone story.

>DeS
Visual inspiration =/= being the same game. DeS's game design was still fundamentally different from DS3, mostly due to having multiple parallel areas instead of a linear path, and from having enemies that dropped healing and restoration items, along with having levels, enemies, and bosses share the same gimmicks/types/resistances instead of being haphazardly chosen for the level.

DS3 is still more like BB than any of the souls games, and of the souls games it's closer to DS1's design than DeS or DS2. DS3 plays pretty much like DS1 would, if DS1 didn't have the master key and new londo/graveyard didn't open up until after anor londo.

>>188128049
>Not really. After DS3 came out, I started appreciating DS2 as it's own "meanwhile in Drangleic" side story.

this is basically my complaint with DS3. Remove the cringy references from DS2 and you get a neat story, remove them from DS3 and you have a half-finished story that doesn't make a lot of sense. It's neither self-contained nor consistent, making it the worst of both worlds.

>>188098924

Ye

>>188109264

#1 from left but with helm of #4

>>188128390
Kaathe does and it's shown in the intro cinematic (which doesn't say that it is, but can be inferred since it says it's the Pygmy)
>2 has an interesting and unique story of its own despite the references
definitely but it's much less fleshed out and honestly it's best to pretend the references aren't there
>>188128527
It's a direct sequel. You go in with the assumption that you've played the first game

>>188128701
>It's a direct sequel.
It shouldn't be, because From is fucking awful at direct sequels. All their best games are original stories or set so far in the future that the events of the first game no longer matter. DS3 is weird.

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>>188128527
I personally think that DS3 provided a pretty good conclusion to the series considering that DS1 did not need a sequel in the first place and most of the plot threads from DS1 were closed.

>>188126807
Ds1 and ds2 achieved the atmosphere without being all grey and washed out

>>188128785
Aren't KF games sequels? I haven't played them so I can't speak for them. And I agree it would be better if it wasn't a sequel. But it is and therefore removing all references is silly, you're removing intended backstory. Although sure, a lot are out of place or make little to no sense.
>>188128832
It's supposed to give an extra sense of dread. Ds3's world is way more fucked than Ds1 or 2. Light itself is fading. The whole "skybox turns to eclipse" is fucking amazing and it's a damn shame they didn't utilize it better, essentially putting the whole world in pure black tendency but instead of just black phantoms, many more pus of man hollows, maybe pus of man other enemies, red eyed versions etc. It would also be a bit better if the game wasn't sso linear, so by the time you get that sky there are a bunch of optional areas ahead of you that you would play one or the other way. Except the settlement, all areas before dancer have to be completed with blue sky and the archives have to be done with the eclipse, making a total of 3 areas where you have a choice

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>>188129331
I think that it would've been cool if the game had had two major paths to the Lords before the endgame and if you do two of the lords, the Eclipse sets in and buffs the PvE in the game world, which makes the remaining two slightly harder areas in comparison to if you were doing them first.

And then you could have the endgame in Lothric Castle / Grand Archives.

I was so disappointed that the Eclipse had no in-game effect considering the night phases in Bloodborne actually had effects like Yahar'gul before and after Blood moon.

>>188128832
DS2 didn't really have a similar atmosphere to DS1 / DeS. DS2 was way too cartoony and it was also the lowest age rated game due to a reason, it wasn't as "dark" fantasy or grim as DS1 / DeS.

>>188129568
I'm pretty sure something of the sort was planned, back when you could visit nighttime lothric and fight gundyr in oceireeee's arena, but was scrapped altogether. I also remember when the low-res soundtrack names were leaked and we had "decyphered" it, the way the homoprince soundtrack was named almost made it look like we'd fight one or the other, perhaps a relic of the time when the above was true
Also, is that the corvian village? I don't remember a waterwheel

>>188129331
It was done in BB. There are 3 stages changing the world, evening, night and red moon.

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>>188130159
That's art of the corvian village indeed.

>the way the homoprince soundtrack was named almost made it look like we'd fight one or the other

That kind of coincides with The Know leak vids about DS3 where they talked about the sacrifice mechanic that sounded like it was supposed to switch the nature of the areas kind of like Demon's Souls world tendency or Dark Souls 2 bonfire aesthetics.

>>188125751
Thanks

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Pestilent Mercury is so fucking based
>tfw spawning in a cloud and gassing Quickstep enthusiasts who think they can iframe through it

>>188130458
I'd almost enjoy Crystal Sage as a boss if the arena/skybox looked more like this

>>188122324
Anyone care to co op for the Twin Dragonriders? SM 1435353, PC SOTFS edition, I'm the dude wearing Havel's helm. Hope you enjoy Havelmages.

>>188130458
The Know leaks were pretty much the reason why we thought that
>>188130664
But by the time you cast it they can have bs'd you

>>188130767
I'm good at spacing and knowing when to use spells though, never had anyone BS me out of a Mercury

>>188130884
>zips behind you at speeds exceeding Mach 5
>backstabs you with chaos twindaggers
nuthin personelle, kid

For real though, it must be frustrating as all hell to actually fight one of them as a caster.

>>188130884
There is nothing compelling them to stand in the cloud at all, so getting the first puff off is the most you can hope for, unless that first one gives the player brain damage and they jsut stand in it. Honestly it feels very underwhelming in pvp. If you could at least stand in it to zone and conceal actions it would be great

>invading in dreg heep
>kill both phantoms
>you have lost connection with the host
I haven't died in the last three hours, but I haven't got a single win. Not a single person hasn't quit.

>>188131012
>>188131042
>back off
>cast it while they're closing distance
>they either go through it to try and get a hit in on me and take 200 damage or go around it and give me time to cast something else at them
Never failed me before desu

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>>188131147
It's not like you have to do much, lmao
I fucking hate how they nerfed the angels before I got to invade there

>>188124221
I bought the crest because I thought it would open the gates for Siegmeyer to be honest

what's midir like after the nerf

>>188133581
but he didn't get nerfed, what are you talking about?

>>188133581
Like Midir before the nerf

>>188133654
>>188133908
oh shit what did they nerf then
was it the angels

>>188134439
yes, they're shit now

They shouldn't have nerfed the angels to be honest.

>>188134624
The hidden body working on them was a great idea. The rest is retarded

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Hello, /dsg/, I'm here on behalf of FromSoftware.

Several Bamdo Namcai community representatives have told me that you had concerns or confusion around decisions made throughout the series, particularly regarding the latest installment.

Since the series is now concluded, I feel no reason to keep things hidden. I'm here to answer any and all questions about the lore, mechanics, and development decisions of the Dark Souls series.

Please post your questions to this thread, and I will do my best to answer promptly. Truth be told, I am more used to using 2chan and the Japanese language, but thanks to Google Translate and a team of internet experts, I feel confident I will be able to respond in a satisfactory way.

Sincerely,
— Hayao Miyazaki, Company President of FromSoftware

(Note: If you doubt this is official, please check my personal twitter account for proof.)

>>188134732
NIGGER

>>188134732
What does poise do?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTjNruIl_M8

>>188134732
Who is truly the best girl?

>>188134956
You are :3c

>>188134934

That depends on which game you are referring to. In the first installment, Dark Souls, poise was thought of as a balancing statistic, and as a way of making the game more interesting in multiplayer.

In Dark Souls 2, we refined the concept, thus creating a more varied experience for different playstyles throughout the game.

In Dark Souls 3, we finally perfected it, and I'm proud to say that, today, it is exactly what we envisioned when we first started development on the series.

>>188134898
I advise you against such vulgar language.

>>188134934
You mean ポイズン? It was a leftover from an old game. Ignore it.

>>188134956
You mean strongest girl? The ash from Ariandel.

>>188135202
Are the Primordial Serpents descendants of the dragons that the Lords originally fought?

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>>188134732
>>188135202
What anime are you planning to direct next?

>>188134956

Ha ha! That is a matter of contention within the company. However, many of us agree that the Velka model is probably the most attractive and interesting female character design we ever created. Unfortunately, time constraints made it impossible for us to include her in the game. As means of apology, we took an early poorly-textured model and used it as a 'statue' of Velka, though I'm sorry to say it pales in comparison to what we had planned.

Who is the best cleric, mage and pyromancer of each DS game?

>>188134732
why does DaS2 feel like a game sequel from the 90' ?
it fixes most of the problems of its predecessor yet it feels like an entirely different game.

>>188135202
Why do you hate invaders so much?

I've been invading since Demon's Souls, so I've got experience, and win like 99% of invasions with the other 1% being lag or shit I simply cannot control.
But what about players new to invasions or just want to rank up their covenants?
Do you realize how much we have to take in order for a win? And how cheesy we generally have to be.
I'm personally not complaining, since again, I find the challenge fun and I enjoy shitting on a group of 3-5 completely alone. But again, what about the newer players who want to invade?

>>188135342
As long as we're on the subject of Velka, what was her original purpose in the game? Did she have any family ties to Gwyn? It's a popular theory that she's Gwyndolin's mother, and her crows dropping Souvenirs of Reprisal in the Painted World seems to suggest some sort of connection.

>>188135341

My team has been in talks with Studio Trigger regarding an adaptation of a certain manga. I can't tell you which one it is, due to legal reasons, but I will say that Kentaro Miura is the author.

>>188135340

The Primordial Serpents were originally envisioned as a single plucky pet which would act as comic relief throughout the adventure, but we later scaled the model up and adapted the character to be several go-betweens to help the player arrive at the Firelink Altar.

They were supposed to be deformed baby wyverns with no arms, wings, or legs, as a way to get the player to wonder what life would be like without limbs. They were inspired by my quadriplegic nephew Makoto, who was also the namesake for a weapon in Demon's Souls.

>>188135202

Is that you, Tanimura?

>>188135385

Dark Souls 2 was an experiment, and I'm sorry to say that in many ways it was a failed one. As creative consultant, I did my best to bring elements from Dark Souls 1 back into the game, but was blocked on many occasions. I'm proud to say that Dark Souls 3 is an improvement on every level.

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>>188135852
Is it canon that Creighton won the fight between him and Pate?

>>188135852
Gigantomakhia? Is it loli piss time?

>>188134732
Is this real?

>>188136552

Yes. As a company, we are planning to create similar posts on several popular Dark Souls subreddits and 2chan, as well as on the official forums. We are testing the waters with this post, however, to appraise community response.

>>188136218

I apologize. I can neither confirm nor deny the titles or source material for future or in-development projects.

>>188136110

Yes.

>>188135775

As I've stated previously in interviews, I got the idea for the multiplayer in Souls from a traffic jam in which strangers helped each other out anonymously. I based invasions on the bullies who would randomly jump out of the woods near my house and anonymously hit me with bricks while robbing me. As the Souls series has gone on, however, I've become more wealthy, and have been able to employ a PMC to keep the hooligans off my property. Thus I have had less inspiration than usual in that department. My apologies.

>>188135794

Velka was originally planned to be a hard-to-find vendor in New Londo, who would sell miracles, a talisman, rings of sacrifice, and purging stones. Unfortunately, we decided that gave New Londo too much of a 'homely' feel, so we replaced her with dozens of screaming ghosts. Because her model wouldn't work outside of a flooded environment, we gave what was was completed of her dialogue and inventory to Oswald, who was an unrelated NPC in the game.

>>188136843
Is Karla the daughter of Alva and Zullie?

>>188136843
>I got the idea for the multiplayer in Souls from a traffic jam in which strangers helped each other out anonymously. I based invasions on the bullies who would randomly jump out of the woods near my house and anonymously hit me with bricks while robbing me.
>we decided that gave New Londo too much of a 'homely' feel, so we replaced her with dozens of screaming ghosts

laffin

>>188135162
You didn't answer the question.

What does it do?

>>188136110
Creighton is still in DaS3 and Pate isn't iirc. So yes.

>>188134732
Why is there no option to romance Lothric?

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>>188136843
what lore implications did mercury had?

>>188134732
me on the left

Should I get the the DLC for DS3 or get Bloodborne?

>>188137563
neither

>>188137563

Both.

>>188136919

Karla is a child of the Furtive Pygmy. According to Tanimura, who designed and has affection for the 'Alva' character, Alva mistook Karla for Zullie during his long search.

>>188137075

Ha ha! Well, we received similar questions regarding Gwyndolin in Dark Souls 1, and I'm pleased to tell you that, this time, there are still relevant secrets left in the game. Keep exploring Lothric Castle! What you find may surprise you.

>>188137135

As previously stated, I can't reveal details related to future or in-development projects.

>>188137030

As I've stated, it's a mechanic designed to vary the experience of specific playstyles and character builds in different environments, and it's working beautifully.

>>188137563
Get Both at the same time
Or just get The Bloodbourne Legacy

>>188137608
How do you feel about the Trump administration?

>>188137608
what are your opinions on the NPC AI of ds2?

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>>188137608
Is Solaire the son of Gwyn?

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Why does dark blade look like the middle one instead of the right one?

Is that anon who rated weapons in DS3 still around? I had a few requests for him.
>Bastard Sword vs Claymore
>Black Knight Sword
>Great Mace

>>188138809
he already did great mace

>>188138208

I feel Dark Souls 3's NPC AI is a vast improvement. Dark Souls 2 struggled with some truly outrageous coding, and the NPCs were no exception.

>>188138431

No. Faraam is.

>>188138459

It's an unfortunate holdover from Dark Souls 2. Personally, if it had been up to me, Dark damage would have been removed from the game entirely.

>>188138459
fucking hell they still haven't removed plastidip buffs?

>>188138868
Did he do the other ones?
And what did he say about it?

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>>188138870
How much you hate Dark Souls 2?

>>188139172
>nose looks more like lips than the actual lips
kek

>>188139172
Poor Emerald Herald looks as though she got caught in a car accident lmao.

>>188137608
Why are you abandoning the DS series when it's vastly better than anything else on the From Software catalog? If you're going to do more robot games, at least make them dystopian robots.

>>188134732
Who was the retard who thought it'd be a great idea to sacrifice healing for casts as a caster?
X amount of cast in DaS2 was perfect.

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>>188139481
I think that's Sister Friede. Here is the correct pic

>>188139481
that's friede you illiterate mong

>>188139648
>>188139653
Well now I feel dumb.

Fucking Friede making me look stupid.
Worst Souls girl.

>>188139609
Brought back DeS mana system without Fragant Ring or spices.

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>>188139824
friede is best waifu though
>ywn have her wank you off with her tender feet

>>188139956
That doesn't answer the question though.

>>188140010
Feet are the worst fetish a man can have.
It's like fantasizing about fucking nose hairs, it's gross and just plain weird.

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>>188140010
>>188139824

>>188140041
Wasn't answering your question, just pointing out why it was a bad choice.
Bring back an old mechanic without the things that made it viable.

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>>188139824
Not her fault you're a dummy, dummy

What does DS2 SotFS upgrade and change compared to the original?

>>188140385
But Knockoff Maria just looked really similar to the EH in that pic.
Eh, ah well.

I didn't find something like this anywhere, so here goes nothing.
I made a minimal DS3 cheat sheet, it describes the minimum amount of things you have to do before killing a boss to not miss on quests or items.

Minimal DS3 Cheat Sheet
(the least you have to do in each area before killing the boss to avoid breaking quests and losing access to items)

Lothric Wall
- Free Greirat

Undead Settlement
- Get Yoel
- Access Moundmakers Covenant
- Hodrick Invasion
- Free Irina
- Defeat Demon with Siegward

Road of Sacrifices
- Talk to Anri/Horace
- Talk to Sirris
- Yellowfinger Invasion
- Summon Hodrick (optional)

Farron Keep
- Yellowfinger Invasion
- Pale Shade Invasion (optional)
- Complete 5 Draw Out Strenght with Yoel (optional)

Cathedral of the Deep
- Patches questline
- Siegward questline
- Longfinger Kirk Invasion

Catacombs of Carthus
- Anri questline
- Tsorig Invasion

Smouldering Lake
- Summon Cuculus and kill Old Demon King

Irythill
- Exhaust Siegward dialogue, don't drink the soup on the counter.
- Anri questline
- Sirris questline (optional)
- Pale Shade Invasion (optional)
- Creighton Invasion
- Alva invasion (must be last step)

Irythill Dungeon
- Siegward questline

Anor Londo
- Anri questline

INCOMPLETE

>>188140468

Several failed elements of the original which focus groups suggested could be improved.

>>188139609

That idea came from a member of the original Demon's Souls team. They had a lot of ideas for Dark Souls 3, many of which were added to the game over time. This was a way to balance magic, which was shown to be vastly imbalanced in previous titles, particularly Dark Souls 2.

>>188139172

I'm not angry at Dark Souls 2. Just disappointed.

>>188140135

Excuse you!

>>188139484

I can safely say that our upcoming projects are much higher in quality than anything from the Dark Souls series. Please be patient.

>>188140849
Followup to Magic.
Why do you hate it so much? We have less choices now, and they're all boring as hell.

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>>188140849
But Dark Souls 2 managed to be better than ds3. Why are you dissapointed. Also when will you make Demon Souls 2

>>188139609
you can't munch amber herbs as an Invader so it's pretty much the same

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>>188141192
karla is bae
>ywn hug karla

>>188140752
That list is quite wrong, it's the things available in each area. For example, freeing Greirat should be before entering the dungeon so that you don't skip Siegward's quest. The fire demon is before opening the second big gates in the cathedral (you can still do it but you miss out on a brau, toast and maybe sleep (unless you can get that in the kitchen)). Getting Yoel is before killing the Abyss Watchers (technically, before entering the catacombs but once you kill them you're almost guaranteed to enter mechanically)
It's a good project though, with the amount of shit you can miss in each playthrough

>>188140135
this
its scat tier

>>188140752
http://zkjellberg.github.io/dark-souls-3-cheat-sheet/
I think this is in the OP

>>188141371
You could have duplicates of spells.
Not saying invasions were fine in DaS2, but you get my point.
Forcing us into that garbage management system that clearly didn't work, since it didn't come back in DaS1 or DaS2. Only reason to they brought it back, was due to references back to DeS.

>>188141192
Dark Souls 3 was our attempt at recycling content and ideas from Demon's Souls, and previous From Software titles, for new players to experience.

Did you like it?

>>188141862
DaS3 was a shitty cash grab.

>>188141862

Tanimura, please stop trying to steal my identity. You clearly don't have the same artistic vision.

>>188141031

The team spent a long time working on magic through Dark Souls 1 and 2, but recently we've discovered that magic does not, in fact, exist. We've been feeling very embarrassed, and have been slowly trying to phase it out of our products.

>>188141192

Once again, I'm sorry, but I can't reveal details from future projects or projects currently in development.

How do I check my softban status of DS2?

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>try to minmax armour before a boss
>kill it first try
welp

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>>188142207
>The team spent a long time working on magic through Dark Souls 1 and 2, but recently we've discovered that magic does not, in fact, exist. We've been feeling very embarrassed, and have been slowly trying to phase it out of our products.
This is fucking gold.

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>>188142207
>The team spent a long time working on magic through Dark Souls 1 and 2, but recently we've discovered that magic does not, in fact, exist. We've been feeling very embarrassed, and have been slowly trying to phase it out of our products.
Alright, I actually laughed.

Honest thoughts on Dark Souls 2?

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>>188142285
that was definitely because of the 0.1% less damage you received
>>188142207
Kekd
>>188142214
Can't you do that by checking the amount of worldwide deaths? Or is that for full bannu?

>>188142214
Checking the online global death count in Majula.
Softbanned people are in separated servers and have a lower death count.
If it's SotFS on PC, I can check it for you, so you can compare.

>>188142608
Hate it at first, then slowly get used to it.
Finally admit to yourself it's in fact better than the shitshow that is DaS3.

It's alright, despite its flaws, it's the game you get most content out of your money.

Sadly the Bosses outweight it a bit.. However the good ones in it are actually really fucking good.

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>>188142710
Please do Kind anon, I couldn't invade anyone, nor find any red signs in Bridge. Maybe I was just unlucky.

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>>188142207
>The team spent a long time working on magic through Dark Souls 1 and 2, but recently we've discovered that magic does not, in fact, exist
so it's official

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What enemies are supposed to Curse you in DS1? I went through the whole game only encountering the consumable that lets you kill ghosts.

>>188142987
Seems like the same I got on PC, SotFS aswell.
I too get weird inconsistent invasions, at times I can invade a guy constantly, making his life a living hell.
The border says online activity in that zone, but I suddenly can't find any worlds to invade.

I think it takes burning Effigies into mind aswell.

>>188143110
The frog things in the depths and Seathe the Scaleless

>>188143110
-the basilisks in depths and great hollow
-seath

>>188142608
It has enough flaws for it to be legitimately labelled the weakest entry in the series. Yet at the same time it also deserves commendation for achieving what it did at all (after the clusterfuck it went through on the part of Shibuya) and for trying to be its own thing, which is more than what you could say about DaS3. It's also legitimately fun to make new builds and try new playstyles, to say nothing about making caster builds and going through new NG cycles.

>>188142710
Different anon, but it's supposed to be in the 22 million range, right?

>>188143110
The Basilisks, they spew gas at you, which builds up Curse.
There's also a Boss that can do it.

>>188143165
O: does this means I am not soft-banned? Nice.
Also wasn't there a DS2 website that showed all death counters online as well?

>>188143270
As you can see in >>188142987
I am in 22Million Range or is it 220 million?

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>>188142987
Looks like you're not softbanned, just bad luck.
What's your SM? Do you have the human effigy effect active in that area?

>>188143380
>22 million
It's 224 million.

>>188143424
I have few different characters on different SM. My highest one is at 8Million SM, though Iron Bridge/Invasion one is at 1.8 Million.

Still thanks for your help.

>>188143110
Basilisks, Duke's Clams and Seath.

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>yfw humans were actually immortal, which is why Gwyn feared them so much
>humans aren't cursed with undeath, they were cursed with death
>which is why humanity raised your curse defense
>and why Nito was collecting eyes of death
>yfw papa Nito wasn't all that neeto after all

How were you supposed to find siegmeyer in the swamp?
There is literally nothing directing you there after anor londo.

>>188145167

He meets you in Firelink and tells you "I'm heading down below."

>>188145167
He literally tells you he's heading down below.

What were the worst lore additions in DS2 and DS3?

>>188144852
I've been wanting to ask this lore question.
Did Gwyn create the curse to get humans to link the fire forever, because he was afraid of what human become when there's no fire?

>>188145381
>Ornstein never fought against you in DS1 and just ran away
>DS2s idea of "leaving the cycle" was actually great but the fact that DS3 just forgets about it is disgusting

>>188134732
>hayao

Can someone explain the Ringed City lore to me?

Does anyone own Dark Souls Design Works?

>>188145381
Dragons having souls.

Multiple painted worlds existing after Ariamis.

Nito apparently making races of waifu girls and blue-skinned shut-ins who just exist to watch over a crypt.

Seath becoming some immortal consciousness or force that continues to influence things after his death while simultaneously never doing anything with him in 2/3.

The entire character of Filianore whose entire purpose can be just as effectively done by some big rock that keeps the Ringed City's timeline in place instead of adding another child of Gwyn without adding any character to her.

>>188145525
Gwyn didn't create the curse intentionally beyond it being a result of his and the other Lords collecting the Lord Souls, he just created the original form of the Darksign which marked humans. Gwyn just feared humans being a natural part of the Abyss and their collective hold of the Dark Soul which was why he wanted to subjugate them under his and the Gods power.

>>188145381
Gwyn having more children out of the blue without explaining what happened to the ones we knew of

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>>188145273
>>188145294
Oh yeah? How were you supposed to find the doll before anor londo? Chekc mate.

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Why, even after 4 months cold turkey, do I still want to play DaS3 and swing this bad boy at everything that moves?

Why does DaS1 not even come close to scratching my DaS3 itch?

>>188145525
According to a theory I saw by another anon, the Darksign is meant to burn away the human's fragment of the Dark Soul upon death. When the First Flame fades, the Darksign loses its strength, meaning that when a human dies they lose their humanity but not their body; the Darksign is half-working. And in an Age of Dark, when the Darksign has completely faded away, humans are truly immortal.

>>188145273
>>188145294
The problem with that is that it could mean you could find him anywhere between lower Undead Burg and Ash Lake. There's nothing to tell you to specifically look for him in the swamps of Blighttown, in the opposite direction as where you would head if you were going towards the Demon Ruins.

>>188145564
Pygmies used the Dark Soul to fight the Everlasting Dragons
The "gods" feared the Dark so they imprisoned them in the Ringed City under the guise of a gift
Gwyn gave them his conveniently-unmentioned-until-now youngest daughter, who somehow has the power to stop time from passing as long as she's asleep and holding an egg
The "gods" then sealed away the Dark Soul via the Darksign

>>188146098
this but unironically

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>>188146086
pic
>>188146098
Lack of Greatsword that do Strike instead of Slash.
Real men prefer weapons that crush instead of cut.

Best spears to powerstance?

>>188146253
>Implying there was any irony in my statement

>>188145525
I think it was first to weaken them, then realised what a good fuel they'd make and instilled them with an urge to seek fires to burn in
"Bonfires are sustained by bones of the Undead. In rare cases, their previous owner's strong urge to seek bonfires enchant their bones with a homeward instinct."
"The living are lured by flame"

>>188146898
ivory king greatlance and alvas longspear, good phantom range and L2 is majestic greatsword flip

JESUS FUCKING CHRIST STORM RULER

MY DICK IS SO HARD

>>188147220
I take it you didn't fight Storm King before Yhorm.

>>188145894
Dragons are "ok" to have souls. We know they can hold them (Seath) so it's easy to infer it's the souls of the people they killed ("Sinh's" soul makes Yorgh's weapon)
>>188146898
Pate's? I hear it's the best physical spear so it will put that extra str/dex to good use

>>188147475
That's correct.

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>>188147220
I really hope you mean pvping des with it. Using the weapon in Yhorm's fight makes you an instant faglord

>>188147763
Guess I'm a faglord, then, it's awesome as fuck.

>>188145381
>What were the worst lore additions in DS2 and DS3?
That Orenstein in ds1 wasnt rhe real one.
The game doesnt explicitly say that, its more of the fandom that sucks

>>188147918
>Baby's first souls

>>188122948
Underrated,

>>188147186
I have no clue what weapons you're talking about even though I specifically said spears

>>188147536
didn't summon him, so I'll CE them when I get the stats.

>>188148716
Can just kill him for it, can't you?

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Should I switch to moonlight great sword or just keep using a magic banit knife and magic caestus for the rest of the game?

>>188148860
DaS1's MLGS is supposed to be one of the best in the series.

>>188148771
I'm dumb. yes you can

>>188148771
But you'll only get 1

>>188148860
MLGS if you want a greatsword
Velaks Rapier if you like light weapons
Keep the bandits knife because it's unfair strong VS bosses and normal enemies that can be bled until you get the gold tracer

>>188148860
>Use a very good weapon at its peak in the series
or
>parry only weapon and a shit weapon

>“For Dark Souls 2, we don’t even expect any additional downloadable content because we want to deliver a full game, the full experience, to fans who purchase the package from day one," said Miyazoe in an interview with Edge.
>"We did do additional content for Dark Souls," continued Miyazoe, "but generally downloadable content for Dark Souls 2 is not really being considered. Buy the package and you’ll get the full experience, and you’ll have as much fun as anybody else."

What did From mean by this?

>>188148860
>caestus
>in ds1
What's the appeal?

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>>188146086

How were you supposed to know you had to jump attack the dragon torso on the bridge in the painted world?

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>tfw picked up DS1 properly this time
>Warrior with a Battle Axe I found
>went for the lower bell first but found it too hard, so currently farming skeletons in the first part of Undead Burg
>Strength 21 and a few bits of gear off the trader, including 40 firebombs to kill that Giant Black Knight (?) I know is there because he fucking raped me

Am I doing it right?

>>188149458
>Went to the lower bell first
The balls on this one, if you've never got into DaS1.
Also no point in farming in DaS1, Weapon Upgrades are literally better than levels in that game.

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>accidentally upgrade my weapon to +3 on a scale weapon
>now I feel lonely with no summons or invaders

oh well I guess

>>188149458
Stop being a retard for the sake of it. Skeletons are worth jack shit souls for how long they take to kill for 90% of the game, really the only places worth farming are the giant stone knights early game, the npc things in darkroot garden and silver knights if your stuck in anor londo, usually it's just flat out not worth it.
Go to the upper bell first, upgrade your damn gear and go grab the Zweihander in the graveyard

DS1 can be beaten in a really fucked up order, but it's a self imposed challenge for people who are already familiar with the game, there is no need to actually do it

Can anyone point me to decent looking DS2 Sliders for pureqt315 or lewdthots?~

>>188149203
>>188149204
I know it's a crappy weapon compared to most other but that's point since it'd keep things more challenging and fun coinciding how op spell casting is.

Using a mix of spells and punching is actually a pretty fun way to play.

>>188150043
https://www.google.com

Anyone on PS3 around SL79 wanna help me cut Seathe's tail?

>>188150050
meant to quote


>>188149106

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>>188149458
There's never a reason to farm for souls, you should be getting enough by progressing the level. I'd suggest you leave that dude alone. He'll rape your face but if you kill him, there's a chance of him dropping a ridiculously OP weapon for early game, trivializing the rest of the pve
By the way, ghost town is not the way to the bell below. Just proceed picking up items and reading descriptions, the game naturally sets you on the proper course after burg.
>>188150050
I get the "challenging" part but not the "fun". I love caestus in 3 but it's so underwhelming in 1. BTW, I suggest you make the dragon bone fist, take a +10 caestus and the golem's core to the giant blacksmith

>>188150326
Just use the self-stun trick, it should give you enough time to get his tail.

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Barring Red Iron Twinblades what other Twinblade would be good for PvE? Same with Lance except Grand Lance.

>>188150504
I keep fucking it up. :(

>>188150504
What's the self-stun trick?

>>188148860
Using MLGS in dks1 is the best part about having an int build.

What greatshield should I use for p8 cosplay? I'm thinking WK, Yhorm's or Glory.
>>188151229
Getting him to stun the crystal, gives you more time to run around him since you'll already be halfway there when he's stunned

>>188150912
dragonrider twinblades
heide greatlance but you need the gutter to be on bonfire level 2 to get it and even then you can get unlucky

>>188151229
Stand next to the crystal, and bait an attack. When he destroys it, he'll stun himself, and you'll be wailing on his tail the entire time.

>>188151475
Yhorm's

i have completed bloodborne (and almost ds3),the first ds i got was 2 and i quit in ruin sentinels ,i remember hating the handling/permagank shenanigans.i intend to play every game of the series but is 2 even fucking worth it? maybe i should go straight for ds1 des?i dont care about replay value right now since i want to play every title nor do i pvp...

>>188148860

MLGS + Standard Bandit's Knife for buffs and bleed and maybe crits.

Why does nobody recommend the King's UGS for PvE, the only pure Strike UGS in a game where strike damage is king?

How much int would I want in DS1?
I feel like 40 but is it worth going 44 for crystal soul spear?

>>188151682
Sentinels are handled easily without taking damage. Actually, only DLC bosses are hard.

>>188151928
Mace and rapier are obtained right away while King UGS is and endgame weapon and doesn't have as much DPS

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>>188151682
Sentinels are pretty easy 1v1 and if you try enough, you can kill them each before the other jumps up. Resistances matter a lot in 2, so you better bring some blunt weapon with lightning/magic resin

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>>188150043
Define "decent looking"

>>188151928
Because people are stupid, and it's not that great, things like the Giant Warrior Club outdamage it easily, it's still on the high end of the DPS scale, but only against really really heavy armor, generally speaking Red Iron Twinblade results in better overall DPS on STR builds, while greathammers result in better burst damage

>>188151682
it is worth it but it might be the worst to get on the soul series. it's freaking long too.
go for ds1 for now

>>188151682
Your first mistake was not playing in release order.

Your second mistake was in not adapting to how DaS2 plays differently.

>>188150043
I fucking hate how hard it is to make a cutie in DS2 cause all the default sliders for women in there are just male sliders

>>188151682
Sentinels gave me trouble the first time, too. But only because I missed much other stuff.
In DaS2 there are many paths too choose from, if you're stuck on one continuing another one will mostly help.

>>188149974
Just go to SL55 and invade in Irithyll Dungeon instead.

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>>188151682
People who like DS2's encounters are the sort who take the time to understand the game's RPG mechanics and enjoy combat math.

People who hate DS2's encounters fall into two camps:
>"I can't fight more than 2 enemies at once!"
>"I aggro'd more enemies than the game's design intended for me to and can't fight 16 enemies at once!"
Either way, the game isn't for you.

>>188151560
Thanks senpai.

>>188152189
Anything that doesn't looks like straight up monstrosity or looks like something that's made by only changing 1-2 slider.

>>188152839
people who think that ds2 has any semblance of strategic depth are always the most pitiful and laughable ones, especially given how awful the individual enemy design in ds2 is

>>188152034
>>188152184
every first playthru ive done on a quality build ,what kinda weapon do you suggest that i can get relatively early? ive done ds3 on BKS.ive never used a shield ,does armor matter that much in ds2?how should i distribute my stats?in ds3 i went full quality (17 vigor) would something like that work in ds2?(i know i need agility to roll properly)

>>188152839
>DS2 has items that temporarily increases your stats.
>DS2 has items that temporarily boosts your defense
>DS2 has multiple tier of anti-poison item
>DS2 rewards solo-play by adding an item that increases your
>DS2 has items that restore your spell cast and can also heal you.
>DS2 also rewards solo play with item that increases your defense and offense by 20%.

Why do people hate this game again?

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>>188152839
Why.
The filename has caused me to lose my sides.

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>>188150043
>>188152513
>>188152189
>>188152857
Is this a cute enough?
It's a character I made and abandoned years ago. I didn't delete her because it was my first and only attempt at a female in DS2.

>>188153032
Shields are actually useful.
Ser Lance a lot did a run without leveling Adp.
Anything is possible!

>>188152839
The big "tactics" in DaS2 are
>"being smart with your stats"
meaning
>put points in ADP and walk through the game
>use projectile to lure enemies
>buy and use healing items

>>188153018
that's the entire series, it's not some complex strategy game it's a simple action rpg. the only time you ever have to "think" in a souls game is when you're playing a pure caster or some other gimmick

>>188153018
>implying anything can have less strategic depth than Spam Roll and R1 while Sipping: the Game

>>188153264
don't forget the most important one
>bait enemy attack and punish it as they only operate with the most primitive and simplistic attack patterns and shit ai
>works with any enemy in any numbers

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>>188152857
There's a slider video for this if you don't mind looking vaguely like an MtF.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vf2YfJITuEQ
I usually tone down the eye shadow just a bit to look slightly less like a prostitute.

>>188153264
>>>put points in ADP and walk through the game
>>use projectile to lure enemies
>>buy and use healing items
None of these are necessary. More accurate is
>put points into ADP if you're a melee without a shield
>use projectiles if you can't deal with a group of enemies
>buy and use healing items if you're not good enough to play without them

>>188153351
You call "Maybe I shouldn't try to killl this big burning demon with fire" - "to think"?

>>188153351
>that's the entire series
rest of the series are an enjoyable arpgs with a nice mix of dynamic combat and exploration
combat itself in ds2 is simply abhorrent and to think that it even remotely compensates it by forcing you to lure enemies away sometimes is simply moronic

>>188153527
So it's turtle behind shield or invest in ADP to get a gorillion i frames compared to the slow ass attacks?

>>188153527
>if you don't mind looking vaguely like an MtF
I am so doing this then, thanks anon.
FutaX0X0Thot playthrough begins.

>>188153730
I personally don't really understand what was bad about DS2 combat, but maybe it's because I used Halberds and bows.
Even Crossbow were so much better than DS1.

>>188153383
anything takes more skill than buy infinite lifegems and backpedal ad infinitum: the game

>>188153032
The morningstar, look around majula

>>188153710
having to use different spells certainly requires more thought than a melee build

>>188153730
>dynamic combat
>press b to phase thru everything and then press r1. repeat forever
very dynamic. i like this series but you guys often play it up to be more than it is

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>he argues about whether or not a game takes more skill to play than another game in the same series
>he doesn't just enjoy both for what they did right and just has fun with it
Jesus fuck.

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>people who hate DS2 need healing items
>people who hate DS2 need iframes
>people who hate DS2 need shields
>people who hate DS2 need to lure
Like fucking clockwork.

Should I update to the testing version of DSCM?

>>188153730
Most of the individual enemies in DaS2 are not all that challenging, it's gauging the overall situation and dealing with it accordingly that's where most of the thought goes into. Plus, you actually have to manage your resources and stamina, which further impacts the above.

It's not like DaS3 where every encounter is just a game of timing, hitting R1 once or twice and rolling away to wait the half-second or so to completely recharge your stamina, and repeating.

>>188153032
Deal with Pursuer. Fly to Bastilla. Go to McDuff. Get hammer from under his ass. Rape anything you meet.

>>188154282
>Most of the individual enemies in DaS2 are not all that challenging
no shit, individual ds2 enemies are fucking terrible, i would rather fight against winter lanterns for my entire life than to slog through any of ds2 areas ever again just so i won't see those abomination with broken-ass animations and utterly predictable attack patterns
>gauging the overall situation and dealing with it accordingly
yes, pulling enemies with a bow and not rushing like a retard, holy shit what depths of strategy
>DaS3 where every encounter is just a game of timing
i take a fun game of timing over something that manages to have neither a satisfying combat nor any semblance of actual depth

>>188153032
And armor doesn't really matter. In base game all bosses attacks are easily rolled even without any agility. In DLC's bosses and mobs just don't give a flying fuck about your armor.

>>188154282
>it's gauging the overall situation and dealing with it accordingly that's where most of the thought goes into.
>get bow out or any other projectile
>shoot
>now do the same as in any other Souls game: r1 and roll
Woah, that's so mich more thought process compared to the other games.

>Plus, you actually have to manage your resources and stamina, which further impacts the above.
>DaS3: r1 once or twice
>back off and again
>DaS2: r1 once or twice
>back off a little longer and again

None of the games actually take much thinking but they're still fun. If I wanted much thinking while playing I would play something else than Souls games.

>>188154576
>i would rather fight against winter lanterns for my entire life
>he'd rather fight an enemy that can kill you faster than you can say "what the fuck" than fight against relatively easy to manage enemies that DON'T make you scream in frustration
Bit excessive.
That's like saying you'd rather play Russian Roulette than play fucking Shadow the Hedgehog or something.

>>188154576
>broken-ass animations
Grabs are the pinnacle of it. Cyclops and froggo just hit half a location

>>188155003
winter lanterns are one of a few genuinely terrifying enemy types in the entire soulsborne, probably the only type that forces me to actually consider an encounter against them as a threat and i really appreciate them for it
i don't remember a single ds2 encounter ever giving me the same experience, it was mostly an extreme boredom

>>188155016
>he doesn't level Adaptability
In all my playthroughs of DaS2 where I properly level the stat, I have never been hit by a glitched grab or shitty hitbox.

>>188155016
there's those ng+ falconers or whatever they are called who just slide along the ground like if they were manikins of some type, it's pitiful to watch

>>188155220
You meet them. You die. You go to the dream and equip frenzy resist rune. You rape them into eye-sockets.

Can someone on Ps4 mule something for me?

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>>188155375
Don't forget the legend himself.

>>188155429
frenzy is a non-problem, it's grab that can actually screw you up if you start panicking

>>188141532
That list can't be turned into a minimalist one like I'm trying to do. I'm thinking of the least amount of effort needed to get a character up and running without worrying about missing stuff that can be done later.

>>188155479
>tfw they cancel their animation mid-attack and beat your tits if after you rolled away for a quick sippy
It's infuriating but hilarious at the same time.

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>>188155530
They can't grab you if you stunlock them.

>>188155530
Frenzy is bullshit, end of.
It's poison that instantly deals it's damage and the rules on how it works are never clear, you just slap on your highest poison resi- I mean frenzy resist, then proceed to ignore it until it crops up again.

Running from the eye like some kind of knockoff sauron was fun, but not worth how terrible it was

>>188155726
It's just the hammer guy, the other two are fair game.
But this fucker, he doesn't play by the fucking rules at all.

>>188155847
Take back 2 steps, walk him on the stairs, enjoy one of the easiest encounters in the game
Option B shieldpoke
Option C use a weapon that has overhads as its R2, just spam those and he will miss all of his attacks except for the literal 4 second windup overhead smash he has

>>188155479
he detect
but he also attac

>>188155479
what is this?

>>188155479
I have no idea who this is supposed to be. PlsHelp.

Is this the guy who's in Dragon Aerie, in the room below?

How do I titanite catch pole?

>>188156036
>>188156073
it's the GH drakekeeper with satellite tracking

>>188156036
>>188156073
The Drakekeeper with the giant Mace.
As stated by >>188156016

He's known for killing more players than anything else in that area.

>>188155991
Yeah, I know how to cheese him. But first time you meet this fucker, he'll slaughter you.

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>>188156036
Greathammer Drake Keeper, a single enemy who's tracking and animation cancelling made him a meme.

>>188156180
>>188156186
Oh, right. Cheers.

>>188156073
It's the mace guy, was really annoying pre patch if you just tried to go in for attacks between his swings since he had infinite stamina.

Patches made him a non-issue since the tracking got nerfed to shit, the overhead is delayed to all hell, the shield one you mentioned is the actual annoying enemy now. But since memes were made on release not current patch, nobody really cares

>>188141482
Yes, those are the absolute limits. I just made the list in a way that respects each limit naturally on the playthrough. It's mostly so I don't miss shit.

>>188156036
with his high speed hornet ring
and now he's pointing down like he actually done something, get off it dude

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>>188155726
>>188156212
Too bad it's not true, at least not in SotFS.

>>188156305
I never have issues with the Sword&Board guy, like ever. The fuck?

>>188156410
That's because he was nerfed all the way into the ground after people complained.

>>188156418
Because unless you download a pirated copy to play release you wont
Same as you won't have issues with the giant knights in Heides tower of flame, the things that made those encounters annoying, the super aggressive tracking on their attacks, was removed years ago. But again, these memes were made on release and some people will cling to them until the end of time

>>188156418
I still eat his shield bash while waiting for his sword to swing, but that's just me.

>>188156410
For me, it was more to do with the fact that they occasionally cancelled out of attacking if I got a lil' bit too far away from the, and hastily smacked my shit in. Kinda like the Alonne Weeb Knights and their Naruto-style Ninjitsu Stabs.

What fashion would go well with double smelter beatsticks besides the fucking smelter demon armor ? It looks like a fun meme

>>188156647
I still eat the hammer at times, the delayed attacks and seemingly endless combo always get me. I just skip him now, fuck that guy.

>>188156410
For me it was never the tracking that was a problem but rather how fast they can be in relation to everything else in DS2. Getting hit once guarantees another which will pretty much always kill you in NG+

>>188156564
As far as I'm aware the only enemies to ever get nerfed in DS2 were the Last Giant and Lost Sinner

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>>188155479

>>188156859
This, this is art.

>>188156806
>skipping the drakekeeper knight
BITCH YOU BETTER FIGHT HIM OR ELSE YOU'LL HAVE MORE THAN A MACH 5 HAMMER COMING AT YOUR FACE

>>188156647
you mean the warpick dude? I don't think sword&board bashes. But yeah, the hammerguy doesn't even hold a candle to the warpick dude. That shieldbash stuns for hours

>>188156802
Something really light and basic-looking, to pair with a shortsword and parrying shield.

Parry unsuspecting rubes in the arena, swap weapons and L2 them into oblivion.

>>188156840
Giant was nerfed too much. Sinner is ok, on the same level as Freya and OIK.

>>188156564
I know, I played vanilla DS2. He was absolutely vicious if you dare to use a shield against him.
Not relevant anymore and shouldn't be used as an argument against DS2 anymore, just that.

>>188156768
I had to farm this guy in SotFS, and it does not cancel its animations, and if you run away a bit, it doesn't chase you, letting you heal easily.

>>188156840
Partially true. That webm is NG+1, you can see how fast you can kill it, but yes, he can stunlock you for one more hit, although that shouldn't kill you if you leveled Vigor.

>>188156418
Not that one, the one with warpick and greatshield.

>>188157053
Sorry, yes that's what I was referring to.

>>188157053
Because for some reason the shieldbash is a guard break

>>188157171
>the one with warpick and greatshield.
The what now? Don't think I've ever seen that fucker.

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Oh shit you guys are on about the Satellitekeeper thing we had some days ago.
My drawing was posted too. Nice to see my scribbles made you guys happy!
Have the Microshaft Taint version!

>>188157379
>tfw no actual satellite hammer/axe weapon
>you will never know the joy of swinging an actual satellite around to beat people to death with it

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>>188157270
Where the 2 guys are, after the mace dude, look for some boxes and go from there.

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>>188157270

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>have to go through Farron Keep
>actually need to explore it as well
>Smouldering Lake is pretty much straight afterwards too

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>>188157270
You missed one of the best rings in the game, then.

>>188157652
Where's the dragon knight? Is that vanilla DS2?

>>188157652
That stun, the nightmares.
On each subsequent playthrough I summon Bashful Ray just to deal with him, then BC before the NPC invasion.

>>188157895

Yeah that's vanilla.

>>188157660
Other than the frog place, I've actually grown to like the Keep.

>>188157660
>not just memorizing where all the shit you need are
I usually just go to the left, grab the estus shard, put off the 2 fires, hit the bonfire, pick up the bone shard, up the ladder for the ash and titties and then back to the first bonfire, go right and it's over.

>>188157621
>>188157652
>>188157895
Oh, that guy. I didn't have much trouble with him.

>>188157660
you dont need to go thru the entire level since from doesnt understand risk vs reward and all the optional stuff is filled with useless shit

>>188158139
that's for dumbass fighters. You also may need coal, cat ears, scrolls, titanite, if you need it.