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/domg/ - Dominions General
Blessrush edition

Dominions is a fantasy turn-based war game created by two dudes. One of them is a teacher.
The game combines a simple presentation with an extremely wide array of strategic options, including over 2800 units, 800 spells and 300 magic items. Turns are resolved simultaneously, with players planning battles rather than directly controlling them.
It has simplistic graphics but is easily moddable and extremely deep.
Basically, it's an autist’s wet dream of a war game.

>Steamgroup
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/vanheimageofvidya

>Group chatroom
steam://friends/joinchat/103582791434709795

>Our pastebin
https://pastebin.com/qaccWnMt (embed)

>Dom4 Manual
http://jaffa.illwinter.com/dom4/manual_dom4.pdf

>Dom4 Inspector
This is a community resource that has every unit, spell, and item in the game in an accessible database.
http://larzm42.github.io/dom4inspector/

>Multiplayer guide
http://web.archive.org/web/20150430021604/http://www.desura.com/games/dominions-4-thrones-of-ascensions/forum/thread/core-mp-concepts-that-i-wish-somebody-had-told-me-about/

>Play by email guide
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=202096551

>Pretender designer
http://bsielski.github.io/pretenders/

>Debug Mod
For testing battle formations and spells
https://www.dropbox.com/s/eo3qbjlixfghvs4/Debug.zip?dl=0
http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/showthread.php?t=36453

>Where do I get it?
It is available on Gamersgate and Steam.

>THE BASICS
>Read the manual
>Read the wiki
>Read the pastebin
>Watch some LPs by Sy, Maerlande, or Nuclearmonkee
>Jump into MP feet first; ask for pretender advice in the thread

Submit completed games here:
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1jHX_ZoJi6zIvDq6ANdp-W1Y89W5_fmShuDyHmAj5qC4/viewform

Results Here:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1dlrvyEqLFYIaXRc49TheMmfdoP8jEh1m5rZJHJAzDWQ/edit?usp=sharing

Previous Pantokrator >>187643085
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Did LosingToJomon start already?
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>>188065184

yes, Midgard lost to Jomon that one time
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already ded are we?
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Pretty much.
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Best way to boost Lemuria's research?
Here's what i'm doing:
>Awake Great Sage with at least 3 death
>Summon first D3 guy
>Summon another one after getting the gems
>rush Ench 3 for Revenants
>Leave one to permanent Revenant summon, the other for research or the occasional additional Revenant.
Anything else i can do? Or am i just doomed to anemic research with the spoopy ghosts?
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>>188065184
Yeah, I hit the button after I did my turns.

Here's the memes.
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Did you know that monkeys have 7 morale?

Did you know that Rus gets a 8 pearl succubus on Conj 3?

Did you know that Bandar is a little bitch who staled twice in a row?
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I will not withdraw my troops
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>>188074059
While I do not think I can take this capital with your armies on the move, I will be able to suppress it for a bit
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>>188074265
>>188074059

remove demon monkey
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>>188081159
fire elementals are truly balanced
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/domg/ does anyone have that mod that unlocks pretenders for other nations? Wanted to try some builds and apparently the mod was hosted on desura so it's not around anymore.
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>>188070583
Magic scales. Take an awake expander and get huge so you can hire Indy mages and find more D sites.
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Damn Vanheim and their stall based strats, I might just go to war on the principle of the thing
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>>188088536
How ever could I challenge the might of your bitch-based strat though?
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>>188089172
Ur will be the least of your problems soon
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>>188091425
I think Xibalba will remain the least of my problems for the foreseeable future.
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Conflux update!

http://z7.invisionfree.com/Dom3mods/index.php?showtopic=3457

v0.92
- Tempests now really do cost 20 gold
- Wardens of Fire cost 17 gold
- Heart of Fire/Air/Water/Earth/Magic now give 4 temporary gems instead of 2
- Fixed Astral Spirit's magic random
- Energy Elemental overcharged 60->50
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>>188092513
BLOAT NEVER ENDS
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I need someone to set Kailasa AI, since the guy who subbed in after the bitchfest apparently got bored.
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>>188094823
steamchat?
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>>188091979
Say that to my pretender and not online, Malakal.
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battlefield spells all need nerfs
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>>188097019
t. bogarus
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so Doom we going to find a point to talk?
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>>188096130
The best part of Ur isn't the pretender, it's the foreign rec mages and longbows
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>>188098164
What is Urs pretender anyways?
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>>188099558
The N/E Annuki
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I'll be a lad and post this. It's a shame I can't play any more games, Kailasa got a lot of fun shit, but Fomoria looks unstoppable
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Abysia, are you here? Caelum and Fomoria both say they don't need such a long time to do their turns. How long of a timer do you need to do your turns?
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>>188099636
Post it for the world to see, Vanheim.
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>>188074265
What's Lanka's bless?
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>>188100549
Not shown in graph: Fomoria has just cast Samhain and is thus banned from llamaserver in perpetuity.
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>>188101193
A rather strong bless
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>>188101831
Annoying. They must be removed.
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>>188081237
more the arrow towers.
on line formation the bats will walk, not fly, in lines. They'll get stuck on one another and at the gateway. They'll mill around.
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>>188100549
>>188101692
hey hey hey I had nothing to to do with those elves
I just built a nice door in my house and those jerks run through it once in a while, not my fault, I just wanted my magic door.


And anyways I mostly cast Samhain because it will very quickly pay for itself gem-wise (already half way there). The elfening is just bonus. Not that I have any association with those guys.
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>>188100549
Fomoria never not first place in provinces, good strategy
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>>188105348
The fuck is a Samhain?
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>>188106381
Magic Enhanced spell, causes monthy raids of temporary independent Aos Si (basically Vans) on enemy provinces and creates in all capitols (in the world I think? maybe just that you control, I got it in both Fomoria and Ermor) a special site that gives 20% discount to conjuration and enchantment rituals.

The text description could maybe be interpreted to mean it does more, but I think what I said above is it as far as I can tell.
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>>188072870
Sirin is not a succubus. She is cute, CUTE!
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>>188106381
oh yeah it's national to celtic nations and also when it's up, Marverni gets blood slaves
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>>188106532
>>188106829
I really like the fluff stuff in ME, the balance less so. It brings in even more of the mythology stuff.
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>>188106914
Yea cuz what we need is def more bloat
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>>188106914
yeah a ton of it feels super sweet
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here's the texty in-game stuff from it

the sites it creates are named Samhain Gate
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>>188106982
Is bloat the new cd key?
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>>188107291
I still need a cd key
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>>188107306
Well dont stop now, I still have half the page to work with
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>>188107987
hi i not have enough money to buy game someone buy it for me? i not understand image
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>>188109019
We already have 1 salva
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>>188109918
At least salva could afford the game
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Is Bandar not in the game anymore? When will he be set to AI before Vanarus consumes him and unfairly becomes the strongest player in the game after Atlantis?
Shinuyama just magick supported me, I had the Prophet captain, a couple of Golem Crafters and 55+ sacred half-worms vs his 240 of mages, various random summons and goblins. I exchanged almost all of those half-worms and 1 mage versus 100+ of his troops and summons.
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>>188117924
Hey, it's not my fault he was a pussy. Besides, the strongest player right now is AI Pangaea who's about to capture one of my forts by complete accident.
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>>188119214
>AI Pangaea
>strongest
I take my words back. Right now, my mages and recruiters are brewing 2 strongest armies ever. They will beat both Shinu and Pan in about 50 turns, just watch.
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>>188120484
In 50 turn I'll win the game already, pal. Gotta do better than that.
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>>188113648
salva is a perfect flower and you won't say anything against her
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>>188120553
who is salva
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>>188120510
Okay, 45 then.
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>>188120581
>salva is a perfect flower
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>>188120553
Salva isn't a perfect flower you imbecile, Salva is an angel gifted to us from on high by Panksus
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>>188106532
Yeah, Samhain was supposed to be a blanket reduction on Conj and Ench costs worldwide, like the "Stars are right for XXX" events. Unfortunately they are bugged and don't work for modding, so the capital sites was a bit of a hack.

>>188106914
Glad you like the fluff. With regards to balance, there is a Dom3mods thread and a Steam thread where people can report balance issues, but there hasn't been anything serious reported for a while. If you check the changelog the last update was almost entirely balance tweaking in response to feedback, but if nothing is being report I don't have much to go on.

Early on there were some issues with some Global spells and OP summons but they were nerfed as a result.

>>188106982
If you add something that is better than vanilla stuff, it get used but is "OP". If you add stuff that isn't you are adding "bloat". It's a hard life... ;)

Wait till you see my next thing. Ain't no brakes on this bloat train...
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>>188085337
>needing an awake expander as Lemuria
look at him and laugh
laugh long and hard
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>>188088386
ara ara~
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>>188121326
>coenobita rugosus
CUTE!!!!
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>>188123169
do not encourage the bloat
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>>188123198
nigga just play without magic enhanced holy shit
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>>188123346
magic enhanced
indies enhanced
pretenders enhanced
heros enhanced
nations enhanced
items enhanced
sites enhanced
terrain enhanced

WHERE DOES IT END PAL?
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>>188123198
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ded
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>>188085337
>>188070583
maybe air and fire on your pretender so you can make owl quills/lightless lanterns?
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Post cheese pizza.
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>>188128175
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Heroes of Might and Magic 3 modnation game! Want to be Sandro and drown the living in countless skeletons? Want to have your hydras tear apart the enemies? Blessrush a scrub with sacred cyclopes? Then you should join!
We need 9 players. The map and other settings are placeholders, and I would appreciate if somebody recommended a good map for 9 players.
Claim your nation! (I promised to give Eeofol/Inferno to a certain person, so consider it claimed).

http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=DominionsHeroes
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>>188128714
But is there Conflux yet?
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>>188128783
Yes.
The game disappeared from llama, but should be back soon. Llama does that sometimes.

Here's the modpack.
http://www.mediafire.com/file/4puw35u4jkkbvm8/HoMM.rar
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>>188128714
Sorry, this isn't a real game. Have you been messing with my URL?
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>>188128714
homm a mmeme
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>>188128714
DEYJA
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Skeletons are in!
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Hoes does one heal, "Does not heal naturally" units
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>>188129667
bring them to a lab
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>>188129667
I think magical creatures with that thing heal in provinces with a lab.
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>>188128714
Erathia has no unique pretenders, and their list is really small. SAD!
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>>188129667
give them a n9 bless
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>>188123040
Not an expander, but you do need an awake pretender, otherwise you literally can't recruit a mage, unless you empower someone 3 fucking times or get lucky with the Wraith Lord hero.
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>>188129918
summod gives them a 2 death starting hero
though you also only have like +5 starting gems
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>>188129918
>Take an awake expander
>not an expander
u wot m8
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>>188129979
>I can't read
I said an Awake PRETENDER you uncultured swine, which means a good magic pretender, not necesseraly an EXPANDER (hell, Lemuria doesn't have expanding problems, and that expanding pretender costs you good magic or dominion scales)
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>>188130321
literally look at the fucking post i fucking replied to first you fucking mongoloid
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>>188129715
>>188129721
Thanks mate
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>>188130353
You literally implied that an awake pretender should also be an expander as well, which is plain wrong in the case of Lemuria, and in some cases also for other nations.
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>>188130321
>and that expanding pretender costs you good magic or dominion scales
Dnno what this means because Beasts are the best at expanding and the cheapest pretenders
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>>188130537
alright, you seem to be literally incapable of thought

i am >>188123040

i was replying to >>188085337

which said take an awake expander

and then a literal subhuman appears >>188129918

to which i express my confusion >>188129979

who then proceeds to get retard rage >>188130321

is this simple enough for you
do i have to draw a picture and explain it with shorter words
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Good talk.
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Where can i find some tier lists? Interested in LA, since i'm an autistic fuck i hate to play overall overpowered nations, it feels like less of a challenge or accomplishment.
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>>188128714
Wyverns are fucking broken. I'm tempted to just go full scales Tatalia and have 300 wyverns on turn 12.
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Oh hey, man, I took a throne on turn 4.
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Turn 7 sure looks good.
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I mean, it's not like they have good stats or anything, right?
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>>188131234
What price would you suggest? I can fix it along with the genie sultan not being summonable before the game starts. Shouldn't affect the pretender creation.
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>>188131405
How much do they cost?
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>>188130716
I'm not any of those guys, but I would enjoy a drawing of yours where you try to mock on them.
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>>188131463
Gee, I dunno. But they definitely shouldn't cost less than heavy cav. You know, the one that can't fly and costs a lot of resources?
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>>188131468
25 gold. Like a sidhe warrior with a stone spear. Really makes you think, huh.
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So I did an experiment. I did not expand anywhere and only recruited wyverns. I had 182 wyverns on turn 13.
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>>188131405
reduce their atk and def by 2 each
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>>188131816
Would 48 gold be enough?
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>>188131894
100g

They are a lot better than elephants, why would they be allowed to be cheaper?
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>>188131894
Then I'd have around 94 on turn 13. Do something with their stats. If they're shock troops, decrease their defence at least. They already have heavy cav-tier protection, and they don't need resources. For compariosn, vanheim's vanheres cost 40 gold each, can only be recruited in the capital, and can't fly.
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>>188131992
Let me clarify. I'd have 94 wyverns on turn 13 without expanding anywhere at all.
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>>188131992
att 13->11, def 12->10, gcost 25->45
Looks okay?
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>>188132052
Still looks like "take someone's capital on turn 10" unit. The only thing that's missing is flying commanders, really. Otherwise Tatalia would have 100 provinces in the first year.
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>>188132052
Won't that be lore-unfriendly? Wyverns are the best thing Tatalia has next to Hydras. Though the reptilian bulls are total beasts.
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>>188131218
For example, would i be a powerplayer fag to play LA Ulm, Ragha, Agartha or Lemuria?
This is important not only for my autism, but also to avoid being focused in multiplayer, since i'm not good at the game.
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>>188132257
If I know that you're new, you're dying in the second year anyway. Play whatever you like.
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>>188132193
Uploaded the fix.
http://www.mediafire.com/file/32vbkse3ucolap0/HoMM-upd1.rar

- Fixed Summon Genie Sultan not working
- Horned Wyvern att 13->11, def 12->10, gcost 25->50, rcost 1->20

There should be no need to reupload pretenders.
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>>188121326
Thats a much more accurate hermit crab than the one I mangled together.
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Today I want to talk about something pretty much all of you encountered (unless you are a scrub who never survives his first war).

In late midgame, a clear leader usually emerges - a nation that's much larger than any other, and who is very clearly on the track to win unless others quickly do something to stop them.

Yet, in every single /domg/ game there is always that one player. His nation is moderately strong, not as strong as the leader by far, but if he joined the others in fighting the leader, he could help greatly and even tip the balance. But he simply doesn't do it.

No matter what happens, even is every other player is PMing him every turn urging him to help them against the leader, even if it's completely obvious the leader will win the game in a few more turns if not stopped - that player simply does nothing.

He is not staling. He may be fighting some irrelevant minor war against AI or a player with 2 besieged castles left. But he will do nothing to stop the other guy from winning.

Were you ever that guy? Why did you do it? What was your reasoning?
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>>188131405
This isn't undertale, you need to go back to /utg/
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>>188132590
Are you fucking retarded
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>>188132556
Just give some gold or gems to the other nations to fight that war for you.The USA did it, so it will work in game as well.
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>>188132640
>The USA did it, so it will work in game as well.
If you are on an isolated island like USA, maybe.
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>>188132590
Literally what?
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>>188132302
That reassures me, but doesn't answer my question. What if i join a game and no one cares that i'm new? Then it'd be important to know (not to mention autism telling me "good job! too bad you were playing OP nations so you still suck")
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>>188132689
Or by being a underwater nation
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>>188132634
>>188132775

You're the one making shit posts
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>>188132556
I've never been that guy, but i do tend to answer the call to war a little bit easily
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>>188132796
Ugh. Any nation that has easy access to blood is top-tier. Any nation that has good summonable sacreds is close. Any nation that has flying units is pretty good. LA Xibalba has all of the above. Connect the dots.

Ragha has all of it as well, besides summonable sacreds. Their cap-only sacreds are so good you will probably kill a player by just moving a stack on his capital.

You have to be gud to win with Lemuria, because most shit players just turtle in their forts, being irrelevant when someone thronerushes.

Again, play whatever you want. If someone would need to find a way to diplo you, he'll do it. "REMOVE BATS" or "REMOVE RAGHA" are both good diplo tools, but it can work with any nation if you try hard enough.
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>>188132590
Speaking of, fuck undertale, why was that game even popular?
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>>188133173
It was good, short, and somewhat novel.
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>>188133348
>It was good
Name one thing about it that was good
>short
That's a bad thing
>and somewhat novel
No it wasn't, it was a shitty earthbound clone
You never see those fags at /utg/ talk about gameplay or anything because it was so shit and forgettable.
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>>188133173
It was honestly a bretty good game, the story and characters were likeable, the combat style of talking your way out of it was a pretty nice idea, and the whole "literally avoid attacks with your mouse" thing was surprisingly not that bad. The music was top fucking notch, it still gets me a bit emotional when i hear it.
Way too short though, even if you explore every ending and 100% it, not to mention it wasn't a MASTERPIECE as everyone was parroting back then (i still remember that "Undertale vs super mario world" vote and the former was winning). Hell, it wasn't even that good of an RPG, it was just refreshing that's all.
The fanbase of course was the fucking worst. LGBT characters? Tumblr whales flock. Sassy character with "edgy form" when angered? Put in there some teenagers while you are at it. Fetishable animals? Oh boy, there's something for everyone!
TL;DR: The game was very good but not goat, the fanbase terrible.

But back to dominions, Is there a way to acquire horrors (or units allowing to break into high astral magic) for personal use aside from Wishing for them and hoping they are friendly? I have a fetish for casting Arcane Nexus as a win condition, but most nations can't even reach the A9 or the pearls required to cast it.
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Discuss your shit games somewhere else. This is a Dom4 thread.
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Always go drain
it's free points
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>>188133809
t. Malakal
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>>188133809
the same can be said of any scale except death
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>>188133903
well no, turmoil is awful
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>>188133960
it depends
T1L3 generates nearly as much gold as O3M1, and way more gems and items
Lanka and Pangea both get significant bonuses from taking T3L3
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>>188133637
Characters.

Not for being widely liked. Short means more people finish it.

Yes it was. Putting helicopter into turn based combat was a hilarious move.
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>>188133742
not the poster you were replying to but the game was pure trash. The combat was shit and unresponsive, there is a reason it's not done often, it's bad. Even then they didn't try to save it, clunky controls, bad game feel and overall poor execution made it a slog.
The characters were poorly written, like something straight out of a spongebob knockoff, only worse. They are one dimentional and aside from the lesbos they don't have a story arch, they end up where they started.
I do agree with your view of the fanbase, however I think you undersold it. It's much worse then just LGBTBBQ nonsense and Tumblr sjw pieces of shit. Zoophilia plays a very big role too, but the amount of degeneracy is just astounding. Look at /utg/, it's despicable.
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>>188134074
by turmoil i meant misfortune xd
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>>188134127
>Characters
one dymentional

What helicpoter?

As for the lenght, It's not my fault most of /utg/ has such bad attention span
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>>188134269
oh
Misfortune in rare events games is fine, and with O3 it's ok even in common events.
>>188134196
>>188134303
>>188134127
>>188133742
>>188133637
>>188133348
>>188133173
fuck off
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>>188134303
The bullet dodging segments in combat.

You asked why it was popular. I told you that it was popular (in part), because it was short and explained why.
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Hope you enjoy your 3 day repose.
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>some random guy brings up undertale
>Now everything is undertale
Only Ermor knows peace from this
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>no haida gwai nation
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New update to the HoMM modpack!

http://www.mediafire.com/file/9a22w5tfiodz3tp/HoMM-upd2.rar

Erathia:
- Angels now have #standard 1
- Angel Lord now has #inspirational 1
- Angel and Angel Lord invulnerable 15->20
- Angel hp 17->35
- Angel Lord hp 20->40
- Archangel hp 49->55, invulnerable 18->25, now has #standard 2
- Supreme Archangel hp 52->60, now has #inspirational 2
- Portal of Glory Conj7->5, S5->H3F2
- Greater Portal of Glory Conj9->7, S6->H3F3
- Griffin gcost 36->45, rescost 1->20
- Hunting Griffin rescost 1->20
- Griffin Tamer rescost 1->20
- Pikeman and Halberdier gcost 10->9, now have #formationfighter 1
- Archer gcost 10->8
- Cavaliers now have a hoof attack

AvLee:
- Elven Double Shortbow range 30->40, dmg 9->10
- Pegasus Rider and Silver Pegasus Rider leather cuirass->plate hauberk
- Unicorn/War Unicorn prot 3->10
- Unicorn def 10->12, awe 2
- War Unicron def 11->12, awe 3, standard 1
- Elven Warrior att 10->11, def 10->11
- Elven Defender att 10->11
- Elven Lance def 10->11
- Elven Ranger att 10->11, def 10->11
- Blade Dancer att 12->13, def 11->12
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>>188128714
>>188128826
>no VARN
I bet you're the kind of """fan""" that sent death threats to the devs when they announced Forge.
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>>188135989
VARN is OP as fuck.
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>>188137237

why?
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>>188134483
There was a fan one for Dom3, it could probably be converted with minimal effort:

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/showthread.php?t=37771
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>>188138121
>>188137948
Ooh nice, and someone ported it.
This seems pretty good.
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Goddammit, why are samurai so resource-dependent?
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>>188139595
Folding the blade a gorillion times is very labor-intensive
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>>188139595
Horses are not very common in the mountainous regions of Jomon.
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Are there actually any decent Jomon strategies?
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>>188141734
Rush Midgard.
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>>188141734
Play a game with no UW or heavily aquatic nations.
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wew
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>>188142084
>samurai horses dont even kick people
shamefur dispray
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>>188142084
But at least true samurai are braver than those horsefuckers
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>>188142084
Speaking of which, is spamming horesemen (regular or heavy) actually a legit strategy for LA TC? Last time I played them was in Dom3.
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>>188134369
https://youtu.be/xzpndHtdl9A
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>>188143360
Heavy horsemen are legit. They're solid in melee, buffable and you can script them to hold 12 turns and attack.
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>>188142084
Summod buffs samurai ponies iirc.
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but then again
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>>188145618
It's just like in the Battle for Wesnoth, humans have that commander unit who is an armored guy with a sword, a shield and a crossbow. That's badass. The unit also has a super cool portrait picture for its Level 2: the Lieutenant, the portrait for the class's Levels 3 and 4 sucks ass though.
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>>188132537
It looks like he just resized a photo or painting. A lot of his sprites are like that.
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>>188147889
To be fair there is a surprising lack of marine life sprites to work off.
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>>188138378
>>188138121
I wish there was a good way to see all the mod nations. Maybe even something with a rating/comment functionality. As it is, there's so many good and niche mods that never really get seen unless you happen to have been in the one place that they were posted when they were made.
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>>188142201
Kicking is dishonorabru.
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>>188148236
There is a thread on the dom3mods forum where most of them are listed:

http://z7.invisionfree.com/Dom3mods/index.php?showtopic=2740
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>>188148330
>the ancient art of karate is dishonorabru
Get a load of this baka.
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>>188147889
Actually for Magic Enhanced most of the sprites were kitbashed from vanilla sprites.

Seeing as half of the Immobiles and Monsters in vanilla look like they were taken from photos, and several of the Titans are known to be reproductions of paintings, I felt like more in this vein wouldn't stand out so much in a Pretender mod.
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dead
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ragha hstaaaallle
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And now for the obligatory news report!

The Pangaea War continues to escalate!
While there have been no large battles, there have been lots and lots of small engagements and raids.
Multiple thugs of same design have been sighted in Fomorian employment. We shall not comment on their effectiveness, as for now they have only been facing provinces with 1PD.

Pangaea has laid siege to Agartha's capital with one of its armies. And at the same time, Agartha's main force is sieging a fort right next to Pangaea's cap. As those armies draw closer, a massive battle is surely about to happen any moment now!
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>>188131463
Might even consider limited production too.
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>>188153851
where's that awe coming from?
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>>188153141
I will feed the general with my noobish exploits as something interesting is bound to happen in my 4 first MP games (first because none of them has ended yet and they are my first MP games).

For now look at this terrible picture of me loosing to the dishohorabru Nippon bakemono.
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>>188137237
>I am SCARED of a nation that doesn't heal at all
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>>188154198
The bless, obviously.
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>>188154458
>worms filename
pic related

>>188155207
wtf? how does bless -> awe???
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>>188156292

dom 10
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>>188156604
Nope, that's only for your Pretender

It's the Throne that grants Awe 1 to your blessing.
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>>188156604
no as anon said that's not a naturally possible major bless effect

>>188157054
but yes there is a throne for it that I'd forgotten could be in the offing (and I didn't know was in that posted game)
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>>188128714
Claiming Eeofol.
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>>188157589
>but yes there is a throne for it that I'd forgotten could be in the offing
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NOW RECRUITING PLAYERS: ExtremeMemeSupreme

http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=ExtremeMemeSupreme

>extreme setting
>extreme mods
>extreme memes
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>>188132556
The moment the leader and a non-leader go to war, everyone else backstabs the weaker one. This is related to the "backstab whoever is currently removing Ermor" phenomenon.
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>>188132556
I think it's almost always best to attack the biggest player I have access to...unless there's truly super duper easy quick pickings elsewhere, otherwise Mr. Big Neighbor develops much more than you (and everybody else) does in the same timespan while you're warring not him.
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>>188159759
How many provinces does the map have? If experience has taught me anything, games with extreme memes are too much for some people so it might be prudent to have a densely packed map.
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>>188132590
>>188133173
>>188133348
>>188133637
>>188133742
>>188134127
>>188134196
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDGialJm5IQ
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>>188132556
I am going to bet that most often the reason those small nations fight the leader themselves (if they do it in the first place) is because he attacked them and they would most likely just sit on their asses expecting the winner not to send them to Tartarus if they could.

So far the most trustworthy players that I've seen in NoMalakals is the grumpy Sceleria who needs no friends and Shinuyama with whom I am currently locked in a deadly struggle. Pan was a dick during his short stay, Bandar Log was untrustworthy and Vanarus is such a guy too, he even claimed that Sceleria must die and Agartha must help because of loads of skellingtons.
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>>188161694
>trustworthy
>reveal the the content of personal messages publicly
tsk tsk
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>>188132556
No. I tend to play decisively and will almost always go against the largest threat besides myself, even when I'm severely disadvantaged (hoping that my solid operational skill will win the war, I'm pretty poor tactically). Given the choice, I'm also eager to make a separate peace once my current target isn't the most threatening one, or bring a two-front war upon myself if someone appears to be running away with the game and I can't end my current conflicts. If there are AIs, I almost always ignore them or play whack-a-mole with two dozen troops on indie commander capturing and recapturing provinces from AI if they attack.

Seems to have worked out all right, given that I win games about as often as not and will very rarely fail to raise to viable endgame position even if I don't (playing primarily mid-tier nations)
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>>188161998
Can't fool me, Vanarus, you sent it to me like 20 turns ago. No harm in revealing everything now, it's not like it was something deeply personal and it's not like anyone was going attack best boy Sceleria. Also, I didn't call MYSELF trustworthy, offering Sceleria loads of nature gems for no reason is highly suspicious anyway.
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>>188159759
>>188161008
Another point of note is low number of thrones (and 10/14 points required to win), wouldn't it be more tolerable not to mention meme-y if you had more meme thrones in the game given that it uses meme throne mod?
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>>188161694
Listen, I just really hate giants, okay?
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>>188161008
>>188164098
Good points. I'll raise the number of thrones and max players.
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>>188142084
wtf are you serious? The extra 2 points of precision is super useful for patrolling!
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>>188162158
t. KimmoKM
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Nani????
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>>188167501
Is this the Jomon the prophecy spoke of?
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>>188167501
To lose to Jomon you must become Jomon.
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>>188167501
The plot thickens.
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>>188132556
NAP
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>>188167926
SCREW YOU
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>>188167926
At least you get to be mentored by him now.
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>>188159759
Looks like it'll be very difficult to play nations that can't easily set up multi-fort recruitment seeing as that ALL of your recruitment is limited by holy points.
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>>188159759
add in the mod that gives everything glamour and i might consider it
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>>188167501

wow outplayed so hard
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>>188167926
>abiding by one when practical necessity demands otherwise in a non-binding-naps game
>ever joining a binding naps game
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>Fecund Breed-Bull is a pretender title
It's just like my fetishistic pastebin RPs!
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Repill me on horrors and related spells
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>>188175103
The less you know the better. Wait... I think I hear somet
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>>188175103
they exist in the game
what the fuck do you want to know
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>>188175705
The meta
How they work exactly
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>>188175858
Call Horror used to be shit because it summoned horrors next to the mage. Now it summons them on the edge of the battle, so they're usable.

Send Horror is basically sending a magic phase thug attack to the province. It can take on middling PD and unsupported dudes. You cast it on armies to burn gems and chaff. Lesser Horror is the same, but dies more easily. Still clears out low PD for spell-only raiding. You can stack multiple full size horrors, because most of them fly, but lesser horrors often don't, so they'll eat each other if you cast multiple times on the same province.
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>>188175858
send horror is the kind of spell that can win a game on its own
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>>188174440
all my games are binding nap games , anon
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>>188178930
binding trades is not the same as binding diplo
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Turn 26 postponed by 24 hours, as requested by Machaka.
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>RIP
What did he mean by this?
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>>188183616
He means that he got fucked up by the superior skill of our new ebony overlords.
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>>188183750
This, but unironically.
Moat's incompetence never ceases to amaze me. Then again, he's still better than 90% of /domg/ players.
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>>188183750
Wait so this message was sent to everyone then? That's a relief, I was slightly worried about a sneak attack for a moment there
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>>188159759
Can you remove Asphodel? I figured out a sensible strategy for marginally less cancerous nation

Although that too feels like it's going to be substantially weaker than Ermor/Asphodel/Pangaea who'll be able to push out several orders of magnitude more units than other nations while two of them have H3s to boot. A fair number of nations are likely going to have trouble even expanding with indie strength of 9 and unit production capped by holy points (what is Arco going to do? Bless strategy with war elephants? Come on).
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I'm so sorry, but can I please have a 4 hour extension?
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Reminder to immediately go to war on every poster that offers a NAP or invites you to steam chat.
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>>188154458
shard guards are terrible
don't build them
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>>188186126
What if I invite you to the steamchat because I want to be your friend?
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Join the HoMM game!
http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=DominionsHeroes
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This is going to suck for everyone involved, except for whoever owns the throne of night
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I love ichtyids!
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>>188191182
2 Enkidu in a Trenchcoat cares not for this "attack skill"! Swerve, vanheres!
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>>188194908
Who could be behind this post?
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>>188195343
I just realized something, that will make it harder to dispel the glamour of the elfs, how are you doing against them anyways?
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>>188195610
Since I'm fucking Ur, I'm using an innovative gear set for my pretender that gets around glamour. I'll be fine, unless I'm not.
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>>188195765
Whats the gear set?
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>>188196124
Maybe someone I've walked it into can post it, but not I. But as others said, it's a geared up titan that is far more than fatigue neutral.
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What nations are claimed in DominionsHeroes? They all show up as Unexpected Nations.
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>>188196307
Someone is Dejya, I'm Eeofel, and the third guy is probably Tatalia.
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One thing I dislike is the disparity in difficulty to play different factions well.
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>>188184683
No worries. You been a good boy.
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God I love this guy, he is decked out in some grand stuff you know
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>>188184007
To be fair, Machaka did start with 5 farms close to their hometown. Which is quite a lot of gold. Even though I tried to rush them with my meme sage, I got owned because I don't know how to position well.
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>>188184007
This. I have no idea things go so much worse than I anticipate they could have possibly gone, 99% of the time.
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>>188198913
I was going to attack Machaka, but then I realized how big the elves were, how close the elves were, and that there were elves.
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>>188198465
P-Precision 9?
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>>188199193
I would have attackes the elves if I had bordered them. But they just lost a lot of knife ears from what I saw and their scales might be catching up to them. Time to vulture if you do border imo.
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>>188199223
Throne of night is a bitch is it not?
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>>188198465
Think you could forward me an A booster so I can forge A3 stuff? I'm willing to pay.

Not that spirit helms and such are that good, but I love to meme.
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>>188199223
precisiion is prolly less relevant when you have a gun that does aoe 1 damage
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>>188199364
Sorry mate, I got it off Lanka's luck and turmoil scale I cannot craft high level air stuff.
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>>188198465
I feel like Lanka should have better chassis.
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>>188198319
>Elludia is the admin
This explains a lot. You've been the last to do your turn every turn (usually ~4 hours from the deadline) for the last several turns. That means you never do a doubleturn even though you certainly have the time to do one. That means you've not been a "good boy" you no-good dead-last doublestaler!
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>>188202891
Because you wanted to falseflag to prevent in-game conseqences for making the turns drag on and on and on. Don't think I didn't notice that you had extended the turn by 8 hours long before """Elludia""" even asked for an extension.
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REMOVE NERITIA!
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>>188203292
for your kids
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How to fix assassin units

>Successful assassinations don't get reported as an event next turn on the opposing player's side.It would just appear that one of the opposing player's mage/commander inexplicably disappeared.
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>>188205627
Whats wrong with assassin units and what would that fix
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>>188202692
The turn timer has been at 32 hours for the last few turns.

I am not Elludia.

Bad Boys:
Original Smerv Player (back now)
Original Neritia Player
Deyja
Good Boys:
Everyone else
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>>188205773
Based on his proposed fix, he thinks that it's too easy to patrol away assassins.
>>188205627
That encourages tedium and will only obfuscate mechanics from newer players.
>>188205960
>waiting almost exactly 30 minutes to give the impression that you weren't here all along
lol i belief u
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>>188206202
>>188205960
Please direct your eyes to that
>>188204574
The admin forgot to change his name to Elludia and deleted his own post once he realized the mistake
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More like WaitingForJomon
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I just deleted what I think was Eeofol's pretender, because he hi-jacked the nation from the player that claimed it.
I hope I guessed right, because all nations show up as Unexpected Nations.
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>>188206505
I guess we really are losing to him.
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>>188206503
>The admin forgot to change his name to Elludia and deleted his own post once he realized the mistake
This has actually been the second time someone has impersonated me wrt. this game.
>>188202891 was not be, but I really would appreciate it if you attacked Elludia, desu. So go ahead.
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>>188206563
Didn't see that sentence in the parenthesis until literally right now. Sorry.
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>>188206563
Let's say I never played HOMM3. What are the available nations, what do they do?
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>>188206770
Don't worry, no harm done.
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STILL RECRUITING PLAYERS, FOLKS:
>>188159759
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>>188159759
>>188207267
Very easy research is the definition of unfun.
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Is there a "low magic only" mod that doesn't allow any high level or major magic
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>>188206905
I'm phoneposting right now, so I'll try to be brief.
Erathia is a nation of humans with some national Holy spells of dubious utility and recruitable griffins. Later in the game they can summon angels and armored griffins. Also, >crossbows

AvLee has elves, centaurs, and dwarves. Elves fire twice per turn, sacred pegasi riders can raid, unicorns have awe. Tbh it's the worst nation of the set, I will have to rework it later.

Bracada is a nation of mages, gremlins, gargoyles, genies, and giants. Also, nagas. Powerful magic and golem summons.

Eeofol is a nation of demon-like alien invaders that covertly cause unrest and then rain meteors on you. Already taken.

Deyja is the meme skeleton nation. Taken too.

Nighon is a nation of warlocks, minotaurs, and other underground monsters. Very high magical diversity and nice sacred manticores.

Krewlod is a nation of barbarians - goblins, orcs, ogres, and cyclopes. Should be evo-focused.

Tatalia is a swamp nation of gnolls and lizardmen that has terrain-dependant troll and sacred hydra recruits. Also, wyverns and blood magic. Possibly taken?

Whitespire is a nation of elementally attuned humans with lots of different battlesummons. Tempgem items are key.
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>>188206947
Can I claim Conflux?
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>>188207909
Sure, go ahead.
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>>188207543
Why even bother playing dominions at that point, if high level magic doesnt exist how can you ascend to a literal god
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Summer has come and passed
The delays can never last
Wake me up when September turns are in
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I guessed wrong and deleted a different pretender. Whoever that was (Tatalia?), I'm sorry. Please resend.
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I've done my turns.
Time after time.
I've done my doubles and subbed in to make things move fine.
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>>188205960
why are you like that admin
I picked an underpowered nation and tried my best to make them work
Why i am a bad boy, why?
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>>188207873
I'll send in Nighon, seems interesting enough.
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>>188208809
>he thinks we'll have a turn by September
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Unclaimed nations - Erathia, AvLee, Bracada, Krewlod.
And maybe Tatalia too, because I didn't get a confirmation.
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Bracada is claimed now too.
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>>188207909
Conflux has one id conflict that makes pixies and indie troops old. I'll release a fix later, butit shouldn't affect pretender creation.
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>>188208839
Wasnt me, I'd get an email right? Might have been skeletons
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>>188210637
I think the newest nation you put out has that on its regular sword guys too.
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>>188213557
I don't really know. Try resubmitting the pretender. If it says that the nation is taken, then I booted the skeletons.
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>>188207267
No.

Any other games recruiting? MA + summod sounded okay, but everything else is way too much.
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>>188213773
Oh it looks like it was me you deleted after all.
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Vine Men with actual gear are far too strong, actually.

I need to make these guys expensive, I guess.
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>>188215906
What kinda gear we talkin here
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Oi, Doom, where are my gems and slaves?
>>
Been eyeing Dominions 4 for a while. Does it have good single player? Not into mp these days.
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>>188216241
I guess it calculates their rescost pretty high, but they'll need to cost 60 gold at least.

I also forgot to give them base prot.
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>>188216439
I know people hate on it but I think the singleplayer is alright, though I still prefer multiplayer
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>>188216439
The AI is pretty shit. Multiplayer is usually played by email, though, so it's a pretty different experience than other games.
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>>188215906
How so? their stats arent that amazing.
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>>188216663
Blunt/Pierce resistance and high HP for a size 2, mostly.
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>>188216439
People will tell you its not as good as multiplayer and I mostly agree, but at the same time I also played 70 hours of singleplayer before I felt like jumping into multiplayer.
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>>188216484
>60g
>for that
See: revelers, steel maidens, deep one spearmen, and other better units which cost much less than that.
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>>188216769
I forgot about blunt and pierce res.
>>188216484
I dont know man, 60 might be a bit much. Thats more expensive than a lot of cavalry and the mindblasters.
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>>188216897
60g may be too high, but a 17 hp 20 prot ZERO ENCUMBRANCE unit is going to put in work. These guys are better than ghoul guardians for everything except halting heresy, even without counting undead weaknesses
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>>188217158
Then make it limited rec. No way is it worth 1.5 Vanheres, 2 White Centaurs, 2 Avvites, 4 Revelers, 5 Fir Bolg, etc.
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>>188216607
>>188216798
I think I might give it a shot tomorrow then. Just becoming more of a single player as I age I guess.
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>>188217559
limited rec is a bad solution. There is an appropriate price. I think somewhere between 30 and 50g is a good point, just not sure where exactly it'll go. They're better than avvites, that's for sure.
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I'll call the footsoldiers 35-40g and convince someone to play them in the next modnations game, using that as a balance test.

These guys will be one of the sacreds, probably cap-only. Not sure on the price of these either, probably too low considering ancestor vessels exist. On one hand they're no-lance cav, on the other hand they're 3 attack magic poison spear cav.
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>>188218171
I say, you just delete it all then you wont have people complaining about balance that doesn't matter
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>>188218171
It's like you put a Knight of the Deep on land and then gave it 0 encumbrance, resistances, and more HP
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>>188219221
Knights of the deep have better attack and strength as well as costing about half the resources. They also arent magic beings.
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>>188219552
they also don't have 0 enc, 24 prot, resistances, neednoteat, forest survival, mm2, and 3 attacks after the first round in exchange for losing the lance bonus damage. They aren't the same unit, but these guys are monstrous. They outshine vans, centaurs, tiger riders, and any other MA recruitable you want to throw into the mix
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Just a reminder to do your turn and make it double. Something something devastation unite all nations.
Game: MArvelous
Turn number 12
Abysia 2h file received
C'tis 2h file received
Eriu 2h file received
Ermor 2h file received
Ashdod 2h file received
Man 2h file received
Marignon 2h file received
Mictlan 2h file received
Pelagia 2h file received
>Pythium Waiting for 2h file
R'lyeh 2h file received
Ulm 2h file received
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>>188194908
I have a Basalt Castle with Ichtyids pumping out Ichtyid Warriors.I hope the meme doesn't prove to be my undoing.
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>>188220732
>Ichtyid Warriors
>not regular Ichtyids with nets
dis nigga
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>>188206505
>>188206643
My katana is made of Jomonium.
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free spawn nations would be more fun if they weren't so f**king tedious
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>>188223332
>>188223376
Enlarge is a shit spell, anon.
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why the fuck do people claim the Golem is a good thug
It's terrible and costs 25 fucking gems
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>>188223683
mindless lifeless enc0 ethereal teleporter with full slots
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>>188223683
Has shitloads of resists, full slots, and can teleport with a cap
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Hey, what can cause death scales on a throneless province? Some kind of a satanic magic site? There should be an option of razing and using cleansing rituals on a site you don't like.
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>>188223953
Sites, for an indie prov. Look it up in the inspector. It's probably got good income.
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>>188224021
Gee, thanks, too bad I think about the people. Then again, what the hell were they doing there in the first place?
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>>188224314
You can protect them by pushing your domain onto that province. You DID take Growth, right?
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>>188224413
It wasn't part of the plan...
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>>188223949
so you are talking about putting like 40+ gems on this guy to make him into a "thug" ? Why not just summon draconians
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>>188226523
Draconians can't melt steel beams. Also they're kinda shit.
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>>188226523
He's not really a thug or a super sc
Somewhere in between
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>>188224907
Quickly you fool! You must grab the throne of life
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>>188226975
A semi above average thug?
Or maybe a underwhelming Super Combatant?
Either one works if you think about it
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>>188227016
Now someone struck my capital with a spell that kills pop and rises unrest. Two times. Genocide is a big no-no, so I am gonna kill that evil fag. I bet the Japanese Saruman is behind this. Unless it's something an AI can do.
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>>188227823
Didn't intend to reply to you, sorry, Growth throne.
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>>188227932
Dont worry, you recognized your mistake and for that you GREW as a person
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>>188227016
when you start with growth 3 and this fucker is in your cap ring ~_~
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>>188227982
That's reassuring. Now you are growing on me, Growth throne.
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>>188227113
He's very, very hard to kill for most things due to the amount of resistances.
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14h for Ermor.
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>>188228548
doesn't have any protection or defense though
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>>188229480
Full slots and 0 enc. Blacksteel plate's accessible enough, isn't it?
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>>188230280
sure but then you are dumping more gems into this golem
What else, shield? Two shields? Helmet?

On top of a 25 astral summon when there is unlimited wonderful dumps for astral gems
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Well, its official. The fail assassination attempt and my last mage got killed by void beasts. Man am I dead in the water
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>>188227113
It's not really an underwhelming SC. Golems are weaker than other SCs in many ways, but a kitted out golem can be immune to most anti-SC tactics.

>>188230280
Putting blacksteel on a golem means no shroud and therefore no regen (unless you give it a lifestealing weapon, maybe).

Without regen it really is just an underwhelming thug.
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>>188230698
Will the hydra skin armor not do it, that gives the wearer limited regen
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>>188230664
Better for everyone else since at least Pelagia's dom isn't cancer while they sit in their pond unable to do anything relevant.
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>>188230982
Hey now, there is nothing wrong with that dom
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>>188230982
But R'lyeh's dominion causes madness sickness only in LA. Are you sure it's LA?
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>>188230982
3 order 3 growth 3 magic is not cancer..
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>>188230945
Golem is lifeless, limited regen won't work.
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>>188231231
It's MA, and hell I didn't even know it did that LA
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>>188230664
lol
how does this even happen
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>>188230396
Pearls are easy to come by and easy to use. Sure, a primary astral nation probably has better places to drop them, but some nations can really make golems work. MA Ulm probably gets the most out of golems, since cheap items and minimal astral use.
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>>188231756
acashic knowledge > golems
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Why is summod Marignon such cancer.
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>>188229480
Protection and defense is easy to boost
Mindless and Lifeless is hard to get on the other hand and provides resistance to lot of the sc spells like leech/life for life/soul slay spam
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>>188232086
what is the issue with summod marignon
the free flags?
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>>188231692
A combination of things you know, I dropped the ball at early expansion and by the time I could recover these guys with 23 defense came waltzing in, while my highest attack value is 12 with a steep resource investment
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>>188232186
Yes. So many free flags. It kinda feels broken when he floods me with flags ALONGSIDE fucktons of kinghts of the chalice.
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>>188231847
Not really, since actually sitesearching is cheaper, comes online earlier, and gets the gemtypes you can actually use.

Only time I've found akashic knowledge worthwhile was when I was a very rich LA Rlyeh with 20 astral income and a rainbow pretender.
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>>188232296
I'm going to be honest, I don't think I damaged one of these guys the whole game, and the game has only gone on for 11 turns
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>>188232296
>no S9

You could have tried mind blasting unless he really had a doomstack.
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>>188232382
Welcome to playing any UW against Pelagia, really.
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>>188232296
do you have a dormant/imprisoned pretender then?
Wat were you researching
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>>188232413
I tried, the problem is I went with the tramplers early on instead of the illithids
>>188232478
I also didnt get much research done since I was just pumping out troops to get that early expansion and was using star childs as researchers.
Listen mistakes were made
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>>188232781
>S2
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>>188232781
Why did you need effectively water 8? Surely you could afford a little more S.
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What is special about these knights of the deep
They aren't anything better than other sacred cav
Especially at only 1 map move you have many turns to prepare

>>188232781
uh aren't you supposed to expand with mind blasters though
why don't you have cold 3
the fuck
what is the point of this dogshit imprisoned pretender..
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>>188232901
I figured since I was a water nation I should get water, made sense at the time. I was also spending most of my points on the scales to get as much income as I could since alot of my troops just has resource 1 but costed money.
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>>188232781
>not dumping temp scales as an underwater nation
>not taking sloth as rl'yeh
>s2
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>>188232991
Cute!
Next time you join a game feel free to ask advice about pretender design here, a lot of kind anons will try to help you.
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Ma r'yleh even has amphibious mindblasters
Why wouldn't you spam them
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>>188232991
Water is possibly the single easiest path to boost, since it has two cheap and accessible boosters.
Dom 7 is a waste of points, UW has a bit of a buffer zone and rlyeh has no sacreds to spam.
UW provinces can never go past heat/cold 1, so taking heat/cold 3 is basically free points.
If you have order 3, misfortune 1 is a safe enough scale.
Magic scales are great for you, since reducing MR makes mind blasting easier.
Low astral is a huge liability.
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>>188232991
Just take like an E6 snake with Dom 6, Ord 3, Slo 1, Hea 3, Gro 3, Luk 0, Mag 3
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Why are TNN/Eriu/MA Man/La Man summons so useless? All they get is a bunch of dogs no one ever uses.
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>>188234043
This is why you play ME.
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>>188234212
No I don't.
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>>188234212
more like MB
for magic bloated
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>>188234297
>>188234298
Well I mean, you can either bitch about the lack of national spells or use a mod which explicitly fixes it.
Up to you.
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>>188234437
generic spells are plenty good for me
And there are far fucking too many of them

It's a crime when mages can go off script then never cast anything useful because they have 100 spells in their library
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>>188234437
I don't like non-canon summons, had enough of them in Dom3 when CBM was merged with whatsitsname mod that ruined everything.

I was mostly hoping summod can tweak the dogs and the Bean Sidhe to be a bit more useful.
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dominions 5 when?
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>>188234528
Sum1 planned to buff cu sidhe, yeah.
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New update to the modpack! As usual, this shouldn't affect the pretenders. The update fixes an ID conflict, a bug, and gives AvLee some stuff.

http://www.mediafire.com/file/gjyfok5esjyfeyg/HoMM-upd3.rar

Eeofol:
- Fixed Devil Captains being unable to fly

Bracada:
- Fixed Gremlin King's retinue

Conflux/Whitespire:
- Pixie and Beckoned Warrior ID fix

AvLee:
- New spell: Thorn Wind (Evo3 N2 piercing variant of blade wind)
- New spell: Naturalize (Alt5 N2 variant of Shatter)
- New spell: Forced Decay (Alt6 N3 variant of Iron Bane)
- New spell: Rampant Naturalization (Alt6 N4 variant of Crumble)
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>>188234615
This thing could get a slight buff too, as it is it's strictly worse than a Spectral Mage unless you really want an expensive assassin for some reason.
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>>188234806
It has 50% chance of being a great assassin (A2 or D2), that's the problem. You kinda want it to be a great assassin in 100% of chances. My suggestion: just split A/D and W/E crosspaths. +100% of A/D and +100% (maybe less, but why, it's not like it's strong) W/E.
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>>188233558
25 d gems isn't that expensive

mother FUCKER doing captcha is so annoying
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>>188234928
A2 assassins isn't even that great really, TNN has them recruitable and I have yet to see a game where they made any kind of difference. Of course this one has a better chassis but still.

Its main use for LA Man seems to be getting from D1 to D2, but for the current cost and considering the 1/4 chance I would rather empower a Judge.

I'd say cut the cost to at least 20 gems.
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Someone do an edit of this with Ulm and Agartha
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>>188235413
A2 ethereal assassins with glamour aren't great. In LA. Gotcha. Say no more, senpai.

I'd agree to 20 death gems and splitting the crosspaths. Hell, you can just remove W altogether.
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>>188235413
>summons air elemental on your mom
>your mom gets trampled
Your mom coud have only survived if she was size 6 and had shock resistance, how is this not great?
All the competent players I have seen playing Tnn used some of those to be unsiegeable.
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>>188235509
W can be kind of ok though, considering it's the only access LA Man has to W.
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Least memorable nations?
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>>188236214
MA and LA Arco.
Eriu.
MA Pythium.
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>>188236409
MA Pythium is arguably fun and great, you probably mean EA Ermor.
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>>188236214
Arco in general but especially LA.
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>>188236409
>MA Pythium
>Communion T-Strikes
>Angel summons
>forgettable
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So like, what do you spend your astral gems on for all these nations that start with astral production?

Rush the Wrath of God?
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>>188236478
>>188236601
>RoS bait: the nation
How exciting.
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>>188236690
Literally all nations are RoS bait: the nation, this is a bad opinion.
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>>188236650
What nation?
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>>188236779
What about atlantis?
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>>188236779
nations with good hp and helmets don't give af about RoS
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>>188236848
Just talking in general, give me some suggestions

What do I do with Astral gems as an early game sink that doesn't involve level 6-7 spells
Do they have any good summons that I'm not seeing? kk
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>>188236779
Non-human nations aren't.

Nations that don't rely on huge communions aren't.

The only one worsse off than MA Pythium is probably Sceleria, which is hard countered by RoS as a nation.
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>>188236860
RoS does not hit the head.
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RoS was a mistake
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here's what you want to do for MA r'yleh
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>>188237896
>Order 3 and Luck 3
For what purpose?
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>>188238383
Great events, including free forts
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>>188238383
luck 3 is literally the best scale in the game
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>>188238541
I actually want to run a game with dom6 L3 and another with dom6 G3 to see which one ends up with more gold. My bet is the G3 one
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>>188238680
L3 doesn't just give you gold
It gives you items
free units
free sites
free gems

Obviously yea over the lategame G3 will pay off, but as you've no doubt noticed I recommend G3 as well.
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>>188238541
But order makes luck worse.
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>>188238759
>>188238680
Well, 12 turns and...actually L3 is leading by 400 gold. I started a MA game with starting provs=9 and just hosted. Gonna do it another 12 and report back
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>>188238867
Oh also Heros

>>188238836
It's not a immense difference from Turmoil 3
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>>188238867
Starting again with a larger sample size, this has to be wrong
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>>188239143
>>188239095
>>188238867
>>188238759
...interestingly there's only a difference of a few thousand gold at the end of year 2
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>>188238867
>>188239143

did you count all events? counting only luck locked events is one thing, then reduce the event gold by the gold you would have gotten via events even without luck - not like good events can't happen without luck

its extremely difficult to test this
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In magic enhanced the Hammer of the Master Smith seems to be restricted, but it doesn't say what to. How do you use it?
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>>188239589
Arco keeps losing provinces so I think we can safely discount their graph. It is Late Fall in Year 9.

Pythium has 7k more gold than Mari, despite Mari being the leader in the income graph. Pythium also has 17k more than Man, the second highest income in this game. Both Man and Mari are G3 nations, Pythium is a L3 nation.

Arco keeps losing provinces so I'm discounting them, they were L3, and were leading for a while. They have around the same amount of gold as Man, despite losing 2 provinces and having severely lowered income.

Ulm has L3, and has ~the same amount of gold as Marignon.

Mictlan has the same amount of gold as Man and Arco and is L3.
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>>188239960
Okay, I'm running this shit again, this time with controls

Arco, Pythium and Man are O3
Eriu, Ulm and Mari are P3
Mict, TC and Machaka are G3
Caelum, Pan and Van are L3
Jot, Rus and Blog are Neutral

Everyone is dom6, with their preferred temp scales. First two turns income all goes into extra PD to do away with the fucking indie attacks messing everything up.
>>
I wonder if the art of scoregraph painting will emerge from dom4 pro play someday.
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>>188239960
What do the provinces look like, you have only shown us the income. How bad is Acro's provinces compared to the rest
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Whats a good material for a UW nation to work with other than the ones already used?
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>>188241426
Sentient horshoe crabs
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>>188241426
whatdaya mean "Material"
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>>188241426
Whale people.
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>>188241426
>material
Concentrated feces, because that's what all UW shitters are made of.
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>>188241482
I mean other guys got shit like amber, pearl, meteorite and basalt.
>>188241519
>>188241468
Probably should have specified material as in shit they make weapons out of.
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Why aren't there any hivemind nations
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>>188241138
Deleted it, soz anon. This next test will be the actual one since there's a control group
>>188240645
Here's the turn 2 scoregraphs. All nations can be assumed to have started at 0 gold +-10.
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>>188241586
Which mythology had one?
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>>188241598
O3 nations had an average of 8907 gold at the end of year 1
P3 nations had 9183
G3 nations had 8409
L3 nations had 9876
Control nations had 8391
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>>188241873
This doesn't make any sense.
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>>188241937
luck 3 is the best scale in the game
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>>188241930
Are wyverns fixed yet?
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>>188241626
The ant and elephant proverb. As it goes, an ant and an elephant decided to find out who had a bigger brain so they asked Tzar Leonidas of Sparta to decide. According to him, the ant won because it was a part of an ant hive and its hivemind so their brain matter dwarfed the elephant's one. We know that it's a big pile of bullshit made up by ant sympathizers of olden days.
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>>188241930
Wait now hold on
Is that a rancor below the electric solar eagle?
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>>188242037
And Prod gives you more gold than Order?
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>>188241873
End of year 2
O3 nations had an average of 18687
P3 nations had 19973
G3 nations had 18269
L3 nations had 23172 (!)
Control nations had 17868
>>188241937
I've set up a game on a random gen map where all the nations are being played by me with 9 provinces and no sites. I'm collecting the average total gold amounts for 3 nations with the same single maxed scale to determine which has the most impact.
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>>188242113
Yes (att 13->11, def 12->10, gcost 25->50, rcost 1->20). But Tatalia is already taken.
>>188242287
>Is that a rancor below the electric solar eagle?
A who? That's a behemoth.
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>>188242287
People who didn't play HoMM3 should be shot.
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>>188242280
I think its a metaphor for how a bunch of average joes can dwarf the intellect of a genius if they work together. That or ants wrote it themselves, because elephants sure as shit cant write.
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>>188242292
Does each prov have equal income? Can you force it to?
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>>188242280
>so they asked Tzar Leonidas of Sparta to decide
Why him of all people?

Also, Slav detected.
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>>188242367
Next you are gonna say that HoMM3 is da best fantasy strategy game ever.
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>>188242474
That would clearly be Noah's Ark 3D.
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>>188242289
hm Yea that doesn't make as much sense that prod gives more gold
Unless the O3 causing less events is responsible for that
>>
So, P3H3G3L3 new meta?
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>>188242402
>That or ants wrote it themselves
That sounds very much like them.

>>188242454
Because King Solomon was a gingerhead and black ants are prejudiced against red-haired people, those little cunts.
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>>188242292
End of year 3
O3 nations had 32382
P3 nations had 29888
G3 nations had 28296 (!)
L3 nations had 34825 (!!)
Control nations had 24781
>>188242450
>>188242529
I'm gonna run another test later with all plains. Eriu, which is a P3 nation here had 2 farms which threw my numbers off. Even so, they ended up being outstripped by O3. Vanheim also started with ungodly high base income, so they probably got a few large provinces, throwing my numbers for L3 off. Still, the results are interesting thus far
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>>188242729
But what about turmoil 3 luck 3 nations? Asking for a friend.
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>>188242729
What about Peace 3 luck three, with the income boost of peace and the luck it should beat turmoil/luck 3 yes?
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>>188242802
they suck
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>>188242879
u suk
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>>188242853
Don't think you can directly compare order 3 + luck 3 vs Turmoil 3 + Luck 3 because Order 3 is 6 more scales
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>>188242935
NO, I SUCK!
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>>188242802
Every time I took T3L3 I had a miserable time, despite all gem and hero events. In my opinion, unless you are playing some bullshit nation that can entirely transition into gem/slave/freespawn economy (read: Lanka), it's not worth it.
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>>188243381
What about Pan.
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>>188243453
Playing Pan is gay.
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>>188241579
Settled on magic mollusk shells.
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>>188243939
Wasnt there a different hermit crab before?
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>>188244036
That was for a different mod.
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>>188243939
What mythology is this?
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>>188244130
American
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>>188244130
Crab.
>>188244204
Try again famalam.
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>>188244204
Fuck yeah.
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>>188244257
>crabs having crab gods
Greeks were right.
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>>188243939
seems like bloat on the troops you could cut that down to 3 or 4 easy
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>>188244329
Summod LA Xibalba, is that you, my man?
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>>188244329
hi do you still need a cd key?
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>>188244792
Don't encourage him.
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>>188244792
Doesn't seem like the CD guy to me, the CD guy is more of a beggar to angry manipulator
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>>188244329
You think the bloat is bad now wait until you find out the regular crab guys xp shape to get new equipment.
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>>188245041
I didnt even think dominions could have a leveling system. How would you even decide what they will be?
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>>188245115
Montags, though it might get a bit complicated later on.
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Dead because no cd key & too much bloat gg wp
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>>188247584
I honestly expected AvLee to have old-school HoMM 2 sorceresses. They look pretty mediocre overall.
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>>188247584
>more useless dragons noone will pick
>items noone will build
>bajillion fucking units and commanders noone will ever recruit

~__~
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>>188247683
>They look pretty mediocre overall.
They really do. I added some national spells for them in the modpack to have them at least something. Will probably add something more or rework them a bit after the game.
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>>188247819

What nations are left?
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>>188248191
Erathia, AvLee, and Krewlod.
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>>188244935
>Stalking someone and copying everything they say down
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>>188245041
Are you using xpshape to turn the unit into a monster that firstshapes into a montag?
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>>188248614
Everyone has their hobby
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>>188249631
The plan is to xpshape into a montag and then xpshape into another montag and so on.
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>>188249924
What do you mean "xpshape into a montag"? You realize that you can only indirectly assign the monster that your base creature xpshapes into, right?
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>>188250225
Well shit. Thats a lame way to make the game. Fucking Illfraud always have to make things more difficult than they have to be.
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>>188123664
reality enhanced
no wait, it's where it all just starts to start
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>>188088386
Ctionno Ctiovanna wanted to be a SWAMP-STAR!
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>>188249631
After a little testing, yes that is how I'll do it.
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>>188242450
>>188242729
With nine provinces and three nations, the variation should generally not be significant anyway.
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ded
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So, which nations are taken in the HoMM3 game (http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=DominionsHeroes)?
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>Next turn due: 17:12 GMT on Monday September 4th
>Abysia Waiting for 2h file
>Caelum 2h file received
>Fomoria 2h file received
>Kailasa 2h file received
>Last updated at 16:24 GMT on Monday September 4th

This lovely little shit is about to have their eight fucking stale, and on a 56 hour turn when he only has like 14 provinces to worry about.

No wonder new pankos send all opponents to live forever in hellfire.
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>>188223949
>>188223919
How does he teleport?
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>>188260594
he puts on hat and casts teleport
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>>188260594
it starts with astral 2, you put a +1s hat for astral 3 to cast teleport
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>>188260594
are you dum
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>>188260594
but more importantly ... why does he teleport
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>>188261146
To punch fuckers in the face from 3 provinces away.
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>>188260594
pshhh.... kid..... that's how....
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Postponed 24h for R'lyeh.
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Thanks for double-turn, Vanarus.
Is there a "magic site" that gives out assassins? Shinuyama's new attacks were more successful on that front. But now I am letting lose some of my game changers. Let's see how this turns out.
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Is the meme game the only one currently looking for players?
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>>188264849

all domg games are meme games
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>>188269150
This may be intended as a joke, but it's pretty much true. You never see a game without some kind of gimmick to draw people in.
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Meanwhile, in MyLifeIsFallingApart:

>Fomoria makes a formal declaration of war!
Okay, they actually made it a turn ago, but we assumed that everyone involved has read it and deemed it not newsworthy. This resulted in some angry mail from our fan(s).

So here it is:
" The situation with pangaean corridor was unsustainable, the border bled

pangea (sic) is a seasonal state, created by pantocrators dictate, it needs to be removed

today I have given Fomorian legions free hand om solving the pangaean question

- excerpt from Fomorian King speech after the initial invasion of Pangaea"

Here at Ur we are clearly too uneducated to understand the reference, appreciate the verse or whatever the fuck special qualities this message might have.
Nonetheless, we do appreciate Fomorian diplomatic style, it is definitely refreshing after Agartha's salty barrages.

>All this war and still no major battles!
The maneuvering continues, and so the biggest battle this turn was between Ulm and Lanka, which we missed because Lanka has a terrible habit of suppressing free speech and killing our goddamn reporters.
But its not like you wanted to see another report about a bunch of half-naked men (and women) killing some zombie monkies, right?
We could also show you another Fomorian thug we spotted "scouting" a throne. The poor guy barely escaped after a Sphinx removed his mistform.
But that is also not very relevant and we've featured Fomorian thugs in our reports more than once now.

So instead, we share to you the strategic map of the Pangaean Theater of War!
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>>188264849
There's one with outrageous settings (http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=ExtremeMemeSupreme), although it looks like the settings need to be revised so as not to make playing factions other than freespawn ones a fool's errand (sacred freespawn being an absurd buff to freespawn nations vs all recruitment limited by holy points being a nerf if anything for most nations). Besides Ermor/Asphodel/Pangaea/Sceleria, there's only a few nations I might even consider playing and the map is for a dozen or more players.

There's also a HoMM3 mod nation game (http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=DominionsHeroes)
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http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=FewGimmicks
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>>188270174
I was going to name it 'no gimmicks' but it DOES have summod and there MIGHT be some awful bug that ruins the game

I don't want to use better arena because I hate the Soulstone of Wolves and don't want to see it until the game goes late enough that I hate the game anyways
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>>188270174
>2 starting provinces
Nice gimmicky meme game
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>>188270332
something something new standard for vanilla multiplayer
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>>188263369
What kind of assassins? There's a few sites.

Or it could be one of shinuyama's million national summons.
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How did I never notice this game? Probably the lack of porn in the OPs
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>>188271024
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>>188271024
Probably. But you should definitely buy it, it's fun.
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>>188271769
Or pirate it to test singleplayer.

It's fun as fuck, but it's also unreasonably expensive.
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>>188269809

wow time traveling map! ten turns in the future!

anyway my speech is based on III Reich propaganda before WW2 started on the Polish-German border
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>>188272185
>unreasonably expensive.
Nigga
The only other games that have even a fraction of the depth are the Paradox ones, and they cost literally hundreds of dollars for the full experience.
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>tfw your commander resists a hostile seduction attempt

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyrKeThaEJM
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>>188270881
Stalkers (Elludian Stalkers). I found them in the Mod Inspector. Those are from a site.
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>>188269809

you doing a double issue today? many things happened
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>>188273814
Shit, you better conquer that, it's a great site.
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>>188276176
Throne rushhhhhhh? are we ded?
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>>188277138

no, not yet at least, I am only at 7/12 points as of this turn
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>>188276176
It has been clear from the very beginning, that Agartha's butthurt would inevitably set off the world war. Too bad we couldnt prepare better. But we'll see how it goes.

>THE WORLD WAR HAS BEGUN
This turn Fomoria's treachery has been laid bare for everyone to see!
A massive paradrop, mostly consisting of druids and a few armies has happened, taking a huge number of our provinces.

A heavy thug has also been used to repel our army from Agartha's fort. Clearly, our ordinary troops are not nearly as good as the ones in a throne province, which slapped that thug's shit.

2 naked druids have been lost in the attack, but all of the thugs have been succesful in clearing 10PD provinces.
Ur's main armies have not been hit and are now deploying, preparing to defend.

At the same time, our trusted ally Ulm, has slowly began its offensive on Fomoria's eastern front, taking a province and killing a few stranded mages.

Agartha and Pangaea are at a standoff, and Fomoria has definitely been able to provide a lot of support to Agartha, but so far there still has been no decisive battle. Agartha's cap is sieged by Pangaea, but many Pan's forts are sieged by Fomoria as well.

>Throne watch
Fomoria is currently sitting at 5 throne points, with another unclaimed 2-point throne that used to belong to Ur under their control.
Two 3-point thrones are within Fomoria's direct reach, but the armies there are fully intact. An UW throne is currently safe from Fomoria, but our ability to defend it is very limited in case Fomoria gets a path to it.

Somewhere in the distance, Agartha is heard laughing, as aparently they honestly believe that a conflict over spoils of war is really worth throwing the game. Not like it is over yet, but Agartha clearly wishes it was.
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>>188283094

oh right I killed your scout there, here, one of Ulm armies
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>>188283714
Ah so it was you after all. I thought Ulm managed to lose some troops to Lanka somehow, as i have terrible coverage there.
Well alright, that pinpoints the location of your pretender.
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>>188284086

Wont lie, its up to you and Rlyeh to put up a good fight.
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>>188284768
wait, who am I fighting now?
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Is there any sort of 1v1 ladder? Or some other way to find serious games fast?
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>>188288242
1v1 games aren't serious
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>>188288645
How else do I know if I'm gud?
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>>188289037
Winning or reaching a viable endgame position consistently while playing a variety of nations
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>>188283094
"I-i-i-i don't care about what you do senpai, throw away your chances at winning, i don't care about winning this game either but blah blah blah"
t. Ur about 20 turns ago

Jumping to present, see attached picture.
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Join the HoMM game!
http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=DominionsHeroes
Erathia, AvLee and Krewlod are unclaimed.

Also, what should I use for the map?
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>>188289790
So, looks like AvLee=Rampart and Krewldod=Stronghold. Does that mean Fortress has been claimed? I see only 4 nations in the Llamaserver page
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>>188290450
Yes, Fortress was claimed. Some people still haven't uploaded their pretenders.
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>>188289790
Conflux here. Can I switch to AvLee? I have not uploaded a pretender.
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>>188293925
Sure.
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>>188289790
How does Call the Crusade work exactly and interact with Forge Bardings/Call for Recruits (it presumably does, based on spell description)?
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Ok new guy here. I have the basics down, and can brute force down an AI. I have some questions

How much does unit position matter? Towards the end I get end up with just a ball of units.

This one empire seems to phase out like PL from dota, and always shoves my shit in. How do I counter this?

How do people play online?
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>>188298513
>How much does unit position matte
Depends on skill level of the player.
>This one empire seems to phase out like PL from dota, and always shoves my shit in.
I have no idea what you're talking about my dude. What's a PL? What does "phase out" mean in this context? Not everyone plays your weeb games.
>How do people play online?
Read the pastebin.
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>>188299015
>I have no idea what you're talking about my dude. What's a PL? What does "phase out" mean in this context? Not everyone plays your weeb games.

They are like phantoms. They do damage to my units, but mine dont damage theirs.
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>>188295240
Call the Crusade is a global enchatment. While it's active, your provinces spawn free and upkeepless crusaders and armored griffins, and even occasionally angels. I do not remember the exact numbers. It does not interact with other spells. Those two simply summon units.

Also, I was told that AvLee's national bow is not forgeable, so there will be another update. In addition, I will mske crusaders have 2 attacks and make psychic/magic elementals ethereal.
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>>188299850
Thedoros? Lemuria? Fucking ELVES?

Use mages to blow them away.
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>>188299850
>They do damage to my units, but mine dont damage theirs.
Those units are probably ethereal. That means: they ignore 76% of non-magical hits on them. Normally you'd just have to grin and bear it because magical weapons are rare, but in this case I suspect you're talking about Lemuria, Therodos, or Nazca then. Assuming this is true, you have some options. First, all of their ethereal units have weapons that check magic resistance, so if you boost the MR of your armies (via Antimagic, for example) they will take less damage. You can also cast anti-undead spells like Wither Bones, Solar Rays, and Dust to Dust. Finally, and form of magic damage will work on them: Banishment, Fireball, etc.
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Reminder that Conflux is available now.
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>>188300919
>>188305028
Elves seem like the one to go to me: Elves attack you, elves sneak out. This is exactly what he is talking about (but strategically other than at unit level).
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I love ichtyids!
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>>188309107
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>>188312254
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>>188312254
That doesnt make sense, we should worry if they will be around longer after we are gone
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Nice job retarts.
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>>188283714
pretender support is way fucking op
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>>188314925
That guy was right, the memes are great. The AI meme
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>>188316035
Have you considered not going up against a GOD? I hear gods are pretty powerful, unless you have a archmage pretender.
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>>188300017
Would it be possible to enable some thematic pretender themes for some of the nations? The rosters for some of them feel barren to say the least (Erf snake or bust, there's no sensible options other than that)
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>>188316881
what if H5 priests could call their God into any fight
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>>188316974
Sounds like a powerful god
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>>188316952
I think only Erathia and AvLee have a poor pretender selection. I still have a bug or two to fix, so I could expand the pretender selection in the next update before the game starts.
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>>188317405
Neat.

I'm joining with Erathia and sending a placeholder pretender for now
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>>188316952
If those full slot size 6 people Pretenders costs were reduced by 100+ across the board, gave them all recuperation, and a retinue

Then Pretenders would be more balanced
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>>188317721
oh also armor and a weapon and gem generation
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>>188317684
Great.

Still looking for a map and Krewlod and Conflux players.
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>>188314925
I was looking forward to the inevitable war with the Vans and Chuds. Sad!
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>>188314925
That's so funny that it's not even funny. What would make Vanarus throw the game? Did AIs started to get an upperhand on him? Did he get disillusioned with all those AI left for him to take. We will never know.
Sceleria is ever closer to the position of the inevitable winner that I prophesized for him. That is, unless I forgot somebody else. Somebody I haven't seen yet, but who was in the game from the very start. I know you are out there, Atlantis. I am watching you (no, I am not, 1 scout).
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>>188321869
He sent a message to everyone stating that he was pissed about everyone going AI.
He is quite big so it's definitely not mad-cause-bad.

You'll see my forces this turn, but I am probably just going to go AI as well unless someone wants to join this single player game.
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>>188322195
yeah, it sucks when everyone starts going AI. I was in this game, and eventually it was 8 AI's and three humans. I left making it two human players left, no reason staying at that point
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>>188322195
>implying single player
Shouldn't you border Shinuyama too? He is quite a tenacious one. And the more AIs there, the closer one of the remaining players to the seat of one and only Pantokrator.
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Pan is now where Van's territories were supposed to be. Are you guys sure he was winning?
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>>188321869
Because I hate shitty games like that?
>PM everyone "Pan looks really weak, let's kill 'em"
>Prepare to elf them
>They go AI
>fuck.jpeg
>Prepare to elf Bandar instead while eating Pangaea
>Elf
>They go AI the very first turn
I wanted fun, instead I got a typical /domg/ game. Hope Sceleria kills you all.

>>188324049
Pan took one of my forts by accident, but I killed his army there the turn after. He also tried to invade AI Bandar that I elfed. Have fun dealing with all that shit.
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On a related note, Vanarus is really good. Looking forward to playing it again in a better game.
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On a semi-related note, 8 pearl seducers are bonkers.
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>>188324164
I think you were just outelfed by him, buddy.
>Hope Sceleria kills you all
I have no doubt in his win.
>I wanted fun
Maybe if you hadn't spoiled all the fun for Bandar, he would have stayed longer. You have noone to blame but yourself.
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>>188325078
Should've let him get his astral mid-late-game up instead of killing him off while he was weak, right? Epic as usual, /domg/.
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>>188325241
Well then, you got what you wanted, right? Instead of going astral he went AI, which is more preferrable to you and yet you still complain.
>Epic as usual, /domg/
Agartha stronk. You though, you are a shame on all elfs of Rus.
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>>188325726
If you like eating AIs so much, go and win the game then, what's the problem.
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>>188325078
>I have no doubt in his win.
I'll be frank. You, as the big earth nation, are the one that worries me most. I hope those goblins kill you.
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>>188325814
I am still doing my turns, so I don't need that from someone who went AI, now do I?

>>188325907
It's really only my second first MP game. I would be surprised if I won.
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Why can't immobile pretenders go to Arena

What if you couldn't actually DIE in Arena, nor get Afflictions
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>>188328791
Because they cant move to go to the arena

If there is no risk there is no reward. The arena is the real deal, no CGI involved
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Join this game!

http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=FewGimmicks
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Aw, come on.
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Another (hopefully, final) update!

http://www.mediafire.com/file/q514jab6qt9ql7l/HoMM-upd4.rar

Erathia:
- Crusaders and Ardent Crusaders now have 2 attacks
- Expanded the pretender roster

AvLee:
- New spell: Forest Defense (Alt1 N1 Protection, but castable only in forests)
- Fixed Bow of the Sharpshooter not being forgeable
- Expanded the pretender roster

Conflux/Whitespire:
- Psychic and Magic Elementals are now ethereal

We still need players for Krewlod and Conflux!
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>>188330576
Fomorians used to be beautiful, not the one-eyed monstrosities that are considered the best available today.
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>>188330793
So, nice single player game you got there
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>>188331269
I destroyed Jotunheim with brutal efficiency. I expanded well. I got sitesearching going in a timely manner and quickly offset the research hit I took from fielding my first few mages.

And I don't even get to see the full fruits of my labors.
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>>188331269
You are saying it like it's not your fault, buddy. Also, just because you are a loser doesn't mean that you have the right to be smug.
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>>188331484
I am not even in the game mate, dont get your panties in a bunch
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>>188330793
I already feel bad to be honest.
Sorry lads.
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>>188331639
At least I'll finally be able to put a win of my own up on the board, even if I hardly earned it.
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>>188330793
You might as well go AI yourself, it doesnt matter at this point. Playing against other people is alot of the fun
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>>188330793
>even Malakal himself went AI
Heh.
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>>188330793
Saruman is Malakal, though. It says so right there.
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What is this leaderboard everyone keeps talking about
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>>188331753
Why? Me and Shinuyama still have something to talk about.
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>>188335080
>all those commanders
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>>188335251
>he doesn't like bogarus
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I love Dryads!
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>>188335530
There are more commanders then recruits
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>>188337648
>he doesn't like bogarus
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>>188338427
Are you just stupid or are you memeing?
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>>188338737
I believe he is comparing it to bogarus, which similarly has more commanders than troops.
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>>188338883
Ah, I never played bogarus so that makes sense
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>>188337535
They are great.
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>>188338932
>he never played the best nation in game
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>>188338932
>he hasn't played bogarus
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*mind blasts you*
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>>188338883
It's not hard to have more commanders when you have only 3 recruitable troops
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Why do most nations have indie or sub-indie strength recruitables?
Is it just a noob trap?
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You know whats a noob trap
building non-sacred researchers

>Why do I have 1500 upkeep in year 2??
Because non-sacred researchers
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>>188339774
Monkeys are pretty good though.
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>>188339774
So THATS whats doing it. Thanks mate
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>>188339774
Exactly. Sages are the worst offenders.
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>>188339774
Tell that to Bogarus.
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if you ask me, all those old farts are noob traps. Who wants to pay 200 gold for a man with 8 strength and 9 hp? You can get 20 ichtyids or pale ones for that kind of money
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>>188339774
why does non sacred units cost more
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>>188340821
sacred is half upkeep
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>>188340821
Being Sacred halves the gold you have to pay on a units upkeep
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>>188340815
I love ichtyids!
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>>188340815
Or like 3 giants.
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>>188340815
Pale ones, yeah sure, but why would you ever recruit Ichtyids? They're the worst unit in the game, next to Ozelotls
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>>188342042
Are you implying that those no moral and no armor Indian tribe fuckers wearing orange are better than Ichtyids?
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Why do people keep blowing their load to Ichtyids, they dont even look that good
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>>188344469
80 gold communion slave ain't terrible
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>>188344469
Apparently it's because of nets and above average morale.
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>>188344469
Who's saying anything about mages? Look at the troops.
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Am I retarded? Using the dom4 inspector and loading meme enhanced I see more spells, but actually playing with the mod enabled I don't.
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>>188345859
are they nation unique?
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>both armies rout
>side with the fastest units loses because they run off the field first

~__~
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>>188346221
That is why, you always cripple one leg of your units. That way its either fight or die
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>>188346137
Yes
Of the nation I'm trying (MA pythium)
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Hey Agartha, I'm going to cast Three Red Seconds on (20) since for whatever reason you refuse to fort your own damn throne. Enjoy the free castle.
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Attention, players! Should we start without Krewlod and Conflux, or should we wait a bit more? If we start not full, I'd want you to upload your pretenders or replace your placeholder pretenders with the real ones and respond to this post. Also, still taking map suggestions.
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>>188317914
And infinite hitpoints and 999 attacks
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>>188313074
Better, saved
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>>188335080
Who are green gryphons?
Why commander gryphons?
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>>188348071
Hunting griffins and griffin tamers/royal griffins.
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>>188326610
Just cast Earhquake on Sceleria and continue to win.
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>>188348785
jokes on you i replaced all the earth with skeletons there's no spell called skeletonquake is there checkmate coolstory
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Oh cool someone cast twiceborn on Desura
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I am going AI
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>>188350025
classic /domg/
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>>188350025
Only death will cure your doomstack mentality.
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>>188350025
You just got BLACKED
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>>188350215
I don't know mate I think if you use doomstack backed by mages then you got a pretty good deal going
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>>188350767
Pretty good deal indeed. You get a daily discount on earthquake spam.
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Hey guys I am working on a modnation and have most of the sprites ready. Is there a way to access a DMfile for a nation in the game already? I wanted to base my modnation off an ingame nation and make a lot of changes to it to make my life easier. Or is this a bad/stupid idea?

Thanks for the help. I'll post some sprites and/or the mod if I can get it ready soon enough.
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>>188350841
Dont think so. You can copy other mods DMs though and also copy stats from units in game.
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By the way, is it confirmed that body armor and not helmets protects against RoS?
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>>188350215
>doomstack and get fucked by RoS
>don't doomstack and lose fights to nations which can safely field proper armies

>>188351484
It uses overall prot, not body armor.

Body armor just gives much higher bonus to overall protection than helmets.
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>>188346298
Did you enable the mod in the mods menu?

>>188350841
Units in the base game don't have a .dm file, those are only for mods. The vanilla nation info is just in the game file, you can see it on the inspector though.
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I'm sick of this I'm going AI. Fuck you Illfraud you insentive fucks and fuck you Ulm you lying fucking bastard who only RPs when its convenient and deliberately acts 'cute' to not appear like a threat and then becomes a ultra power gamer when you feel like it
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>>188351484
I thought people used helmets on mages because they had minuscule encumbrance penalties compared to body armor.
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>>188351484
Wait, your telling me that I don't need armor on my mages? Just helmets will do fine?
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>>188354572
>>188355059
I don't know, I just wanted to know if armored mages with no helmets (like LA TC ones) were safe from RoS or not.
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>>188354572
>>188355059
>>188355430
This isn't exactly hard to test, you know. Put a helmet on one mage, put some heavy armor on another, then see how they survive half a dozen RoS casts.
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>>188356808
But that would involve doing single player enough, and hope the AI is competent and works with you on this. All in all it would be hard to test due to the AI and time investment you would have to put into single playeR.
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>>188357240
You can play more than one nation in singleplayer. Make a new singleplayer game and set all nations to 'human' difficulty.
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>>188180947
>Postpones for Machaka
Others take advantage to stall even after Machaka did his turn
fucking elfs
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>>188358638
Moat always does his turn last.
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>>188358718
Who?
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>>188358862
A bad player.
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>>188358895
How does one even know a player by name
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>>188359032
By playing a lot of games.
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Join the HoMM3 game! We need Krewlod and Conflux! And I need to sleep.
http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=DominionsHeroes
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>>188347373
Would prefer we wait.
t. AvLee
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>>188362564

I'd join eGG but I am in too many games so waiting a bit works for me
>>
Ded
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>>188366689
inDEEEED
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Crabs riding crabs. Do any nations have sacred tramplers and would they actually be useful?
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>>188371962
Yes and sure.
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>>188371962
I remember there were a bunch of people freaking out about some sacred chariots before that natgen game which went on for ages. I think that nation got destroyed pretty quick so it couldn't have been too strong.
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>>188371962

That's a nice crab sprite.
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>>188373917
Its the only sprite of a crab that I could find on the internet that didnt have a stupid face on it and was pointed sideways. I'm just glad it fits so well.
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>>188374189
Nice.

Are they going to have shrimp/crustacean troops as well, or just crabs? I've seen some of the other sprites you've posted already.
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>>188350025
?
what did you lose all your shit to? PD?
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>>188374754
Magick support.
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>>188374685
Lobster guys as a summon analogues to trolls. Dont know about shrimp, I thought about them but the main problem is drawing them without armour. Might give them like kelp leather and make them a summon or something. Recruits are going to be all crabs.
>>
I tell you what, Game of Thrones is some classic /domg/ shit. Glorious Ulm finally gets a coalition together to REMOVE COLD 3 ERMOR and immediately someone starts scheming to backstab the cancer removal. Never change /domg/, never change.
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>>188376039
>quadbless white walkers will fall off early on, trust me
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>>188376039
Stannis really should have remembered to bring mage support to the siege of King's Landing.
>>
Did ermor have any interaction with blood nations?
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Classic friendly fire archer crit.
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>>188376384
Sauromatia and Marveni. Conquered.
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>>188376384
Marigon killing them with devils in MA is probably the closest.
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>>188376384
They conquered Berytos and Sauromatia and were defeated by Marignon that had made a pact with the devil and become a blood nation (possibly after voyages to Mictlan)
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>>188376624
Those are some big, nice-looking, juicy shrooms.
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>>188376624
and just that easy
you lose your pretender
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>>188374754

What happened here, pd???
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>>188377429
nigga watch your own battles, probably a lucky arrow that got through glamour
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>>188376321
>Only bringing 1 blood slave
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>>188377429
wat spell cast with air or death does this??
>>
>>188378243

wings of death

funny thing they killed a mound king too
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>>188378243
wind of death, salva-chan
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>>188377429
It was that Horse Tribe Chief youngster. His sharp eyes, brave spirit and heroic posture... they stirred something inside the ancient Nemedian Sorceress's chest. She couldn't strike him down and shamefully run away from the battle. But, despite her shameful defeat, the storm of emotions overwhelming her wasnt completely dark.
Because for some inexplicable reason, the moment she saw the young Chief, she felt like a young maiden she had been in the ages past.
>>
>>188378304
>>188378327
how to defend against that
>>
>>188378578
Don't doomstack.
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>>188378578
antimagic is a soft counter
hard counter is not using doomstacks
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>>188378641
or doomstack with things that don't die to decay
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>>188378641
>>188378686
what is this "don't doomstack" nonsense
It's 1 fucking death gem
Literally anything is worth killing for 1 death gem
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>>188378981
Better to lose 10 things than 200.
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>>188376743
>conquered Berytos
This is really just assumed from the real world Carthage analog. We know that Bery was destroyed in game, but the only Dominions lore about Bery's enemies was Machaka and other Melqarts that the King of the City was ready to fight to protect his human followers
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>>188378981
Generally speaking mages who can cast WoD are fairly expensive and rare, so they can't be everywhere.
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>>188379392
But Formoria's primary researcher can cast it with 1-2 boosts
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>>188379716

fir bolg druid can?
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>>188379846
fir bolg druid is terrible
not sacred
and with drain 2(which is free points) you don't want low research
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>>188379846
They get A2D1 pretty frequently my dude
>>
>>188380259
Wind of Death is D4A1. What are you using, a Skull Staff and Skullface on each one?
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>>188350767
Please RoS me: the post.
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>>188357240
You can just play two nations in SP with debug mod.
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>>188381034
What if they are atlantian mages?
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>>188381034
what if all my units have 20 prot and 30 hp re t a r d
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>>188374754
>>188377429
What happened here, PD? Tribless?
>>
>>188381764
I hear Se'irs are good blessed
That whole Ermor army is chaff
>>
Welp, turn 6 here and ghosts are in my cap ring while Atlantheans accidentally wrestled a province from me that I just captured. Nice knowing you guys, I should make a better Samurai Pretender next time.
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>>188381764
Nigress Pussy too stronk for poor Ermor boys.
>>
I will be needing a 2h extension for this turn.
>>
>>188381942
>Jomon is the first to lose to Jomon
Like pottery.
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>>188382251
Bullshit, I didn't even see that Jomon guy yet. Atlantis, come and take my stupid provinces. Better have the life triumph than to feed ghosts.
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>>188381942
Press F to pay respects.
>>
LosingToJomon Vanheim, are you here?
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>>188383778
Uhh, midgârd. Oops.
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>>188384729
He's probably going AI this turn. No point playing Midgard if you can't lose to Jomon, after all.
>>
>>188382474
What did you mean by this?
>>
Game: MArvelous
Turn number 14
Next turn due: 22:44 GMT on Tuesday September 5th


Abysia 2h file received
C'tis 2h file received
Eriu 2h file received
Ermor 2h file received
Ashdod 2h file received
>Man Waiting for 2h file
Marignon 2h file received
Mictlan 2h file received
Pelagia 2h file received
>Pythium Waiting for 2h file
R'lyeh 2h file received
Ulm 2h file received

Current time: 19:56 GMT

I think you guys got like 3 hours. Let me know if you won't make it in time.
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>>188354325
It's back!
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>>188315902
It continues to occur.
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>>188386783
this is why you take luck 3
misfortune is REALLY bad
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You may silence our squelching, but less us gurgle to you the name of the real threat before we return to the muck under your boots.

Know your foe: his name is Malakal, and with his underling's hordes of chaff and the combined might of his communions, ghosts, and 7 evo battlefield clear- you will only suffer if you turn a blind eye to him.
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>>188362564
I'd like to join as Krewlod (mainly because my favourite nations are already picked). I have no idea how to play them though, so I'll probably be making the closest thing to Crag Hack and go after Deyja.
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>>188387840
But muh Ord/Misf
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>>188389018
Order is a meme.
>>
>>188387974

Everyone I hate is Malakal - the post
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New bread?
>>
Is turmoil 3 + fortune 2 (or 3) a good idea? More good events does not sound bad.
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>>188395081
The best events are Order/Production.
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>>188388053
Welcome aboard!

Need just one more player for Conflux.
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