/dfg/ - Dwarf Fortress General

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First for kobolds

>>187974369
Quit breaking the thread.

>>187974369
We shoulda stayed in the other thread

>>187974369
I genuinely sincerely hope you die

>>187974485
>>187974565
>>187975137
Wow, that dude just got the easiest (You)'s on the fucking planet.

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>>187975460
Agreed.

>And so, having been raised in the isolated environment of /dfg/, the native anons were completely unprepared to deal with the introduction of foreign predators into their ecosystem. With no natural defenses against the shitposters, lewdposters, and other dangerous creatures, the hapless general was quickly thrown into disarray. The once idyllic environment will likely be completely destroyed as the soft and feeble local fauna are either forced out of the general or become shitposters themselves, just as the night troll converts its spouse. Such is life in the land of /vg/.

ded thread

ded game

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Need your help, /dfg/. Got something weird going on in my fort, not sure if bug or if I'm doing something wrong.

So I have a pair of military dwarves in the hospital after a werebeast attack. Shortly after they were hospitalized, I started getting massive amounts of 'Urist McNurse cancels Give Food: No food available' spams.

Now I know I've got plenty of food in the fortress. There's a 497 stack of mountain titan meat sitting in the food stockpile. Some examination turned up the following:

>A dwarf gets the 'Give Food' job
>That dwarf goes to the food stockpile, stands over the pile of 500ish mountain titan meat, picks up 1 piece of meat, and then drops it again on the same tile
>Job cancellation notice is generated
>Looking at the 1 piece of dropped meat shows that it is now owned by the dwarf that went to go pick it up, not the dwarves who are injured in the hospital
>The dwarves who own the food come back later when they themselves are hungry, take the pieces of meat to the tavern, and eat them there
>Meanwhile my wounded dwarves aren't being fed!

I checked all the doors around the hospital, none are locked, and there are doctors moving in and out cleaning the patients and suturing and whatnot, so it's not a pathing issue. Is there some mechanic I'm missing here, or is this a bug?

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I wish I had more time to delve deeper into this game. All I can make is a basic farm, doors, beds and basic rooms & workshops

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>>187977251
Well, basically /dfg/ is just too comfy so we are quite content to wait out the children until they get bored, and soon, school will claim their eager ignorant little brains to resume the process of molding them into happy little capitalist drones.

>>187979116
>Not wanting to be capitalist

I'm unironically a shareholder in several companies and I'm making made dividend loot. Feels good to make money doing literally nothing.

>>187979116
>Max is a communist
Of course, I should have known.

>>187979254
*making mad dividend loot.

>>187974369
noice art

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>tfw enjoy dorfing but can't autism project right
>tfw kobolds are cute and idiotic so would like to play as them instead of dorf for proper autisming half completed projects and starving kobolds everywhere
>tfw too stupid to figure out how to do that

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>>187980078
Guoh makes some nice pieces

>>187980241
All Races Playable mod.

>>187980970
Can I toss that in with the starter pack and have stuff work right?

>>187981128
>starter pack

but really, uh, maybe? Just make a backup and try it out.

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>>187980241
Shut up kobolds are very intelligent creatures and very good at their jobs

>>187981368
>intelligent
>literally don't have a language

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KOBOLDS DON'T LOOK LIKE THESE SHITTY DRAWINGS STOP IT

>>187974369
>>187980385
>>187981368
Please see my post in the other thread: >>187982636
You really are harming /dfg/. Please stop.

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>>187982736
It's your fault you haven't modded your kobolds to look like superior lizbolds instead of disgusting dogbolds

>25 replies
>11 posters

>>187983679
clearly we have an active and healthy general with many multi-post discussions going on.

Squat kob

Kobolds are good but could the two or three insane people who keep posting images of them/retarded anime elves please, please stop.

I wonder how tough dwarf sieges will be (when you raid a dwarf civ a bunch)

Aight bois, I got this fucking gay ass Win10 installed and I'm redownloading dorf.

How should I dorf?

Should I fort?

Should I walk?

Should I even do those things as dorf?

>>187983679

you think having 500 posters and 500 replies is a good thing?

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>>187985910
Make a kobold fort, for the glory of koboldkind.

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>>187979372
Yeah, I'm sure that comes as a shock to literally nobody, though I'd say socialist, or even democratic socialist is closer. Really it's fine if you want faster phones and cars and bacon-wrapped everything delivered to your house, but we're choking to death on it here in the US.

Who the fuck thinks profit driven education, healthcare, infrastructure, military, fire/emergency response, or policing are good ideas? Go on, raise your hands folks.

Ok, yes, I'm sure there are a few of the whackadoo hyperlibertardians that are all for it, but nobody sane should after a few seconds to think about it. The US since the Reagan years has been acting like 100% capitalism is good just because 100% socialism was bad.

More importantly: least I'm not boldfag over there.

>>187985910
You should dorf with all your heart, all your might, and all your beard.

>>187977251
I'll cop to some koboldposting but I coupled my shit with on-topic posts, this general has slowed to a crawl though and some serious shitposters have come to roost.

>>187987121
Oh I don't care either way, I just think its funny how the chillness of /dfg/ is proving to be its downfall as it seems like this general just isn't used to normal levels of shitposting and is thus easily baited and derailed. We are like the dodo, entirely weak and defenseless to the natural predators that have been introduced to our island.

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>>187986815
Oh c'mon now Max, don't tell me you seriously think like that

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>>187986815
Before I go in I'm gonna fuck with the raws a bit. Downloaded All Races Playable, will also get advfort.

I'm wondering how to give kobolds scales in their actual descriptions. I changed it in the raws but it won't show up on characters. Also removed KILL_NEUTRAL_REQUIRED and UTTERANCES.

Any other changes you guys like to make in the raws?

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>>187987457
>http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/ASCII_Art_Reward/A-F#.2803_March_2013.29

>Big Effie was a walking contradiction, a fat, jolly, good-natured goblin. That didn’t stop Effie’s establishment from being the most violent place this side of Steelguard. As Samser bellied up to the bar, he couldn’t help noticing a dwarf sitting by himself in the corner. Samser tried to back away, but it was too late. The dwarf noticed him.

“Do you know what time it is?” asked the dwarf.

“It is time for you to get out of this neighborhood,” said Samser.

“It is time,” said the dwarf, “for revolution.”

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>not making an ancap fort when economy comes back
Buncha reds in here

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>>187987901
I guess you could make them slightly bigger, DF kobolds are pretty damn small.

>>187989174
nah, left em as is. Fixed the scales, gave them a tail, scales show in desc now. Also changed their base description a bit. Here's the raws if anyone wants:

https://pastebin.com/wu4saAN2

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>>187987457
Yes I seriously think for-profit everything is a bad idea but I'm fine with it driving stuff like electronics and whatnot so I could scoop up some DDR4 ram and one of those 7th gen pentium chips for a couple hundred bucks, just keep that shit out of schools and hospitals and police departments kthx?

Which goes back to df actually: using the same worldgen (https://pastebin.com/898dLPQq basically) and everything else but going from an ivy bridge i3 to a kaby lake pentium + ddr3-1600 to ddr4-2400 made a really obvious boost at first and took a lot longer to slow down.

>>187989881
actually nevermind something got fucked and only the scales on their lips are colored???

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>>187991320
Oh Max, you poor misguided fool, well, think what you want to think I can't stop you. In the end you will see you were wrong anyway.

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It's Friday Night guys: tell stories of drunked Dwarf Fortress antics.

One time I decided "I'm not really doing anything that interesting with this fort anyways" and had my miners breach the volcano cadera that was containing a horde of clowns. My only regret was letting a lesbian couple I had grown attached to get killed in the carnage. Sarevsh was a legendary Clothier and As was a legendary macedwarf who led one of my squads.

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Bump!

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>>187995491
Never drunkforted but I have "loopy from who knows how long without sleep" derped around and vaguely recall stacking units and riding around like fucking Cirque du Soleil.

>>187983010
I just want you to know that the only yous I got in that post were game discussion that you erroneously listed under your off-topic section. I'll bet mine weren't the only ones.

>>188000036
The last set of post links was to illustrate the falsehood of the idea that the big problem is that there's no actual discussion of DF even being attempted. Perhaps my sarcasm didn't come through as well as it should have. I apologize for the lack of clarity.

>>188002017
The point isn't "there's no DF discussion"; the problem is "half of the thread is relentless shitposting".

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Elv

>>188002615
Honestly there's literally nothing we can do to stop the shitposting until the next update comes. We're just gonna have to grin and bear it for the next month or so. The people have cracked and nothing but new content can assuage them.

>>188002615
I know, that's exactly what I was trying to illustrate. Apparently I didn't do a very good job, nor did I dissuade Mr. Shitposter here >>188003117. I'm starting to wonder if some of it is automated, it's not like it'd be hard to do.

>>187995491
Things I've done in DF drunkenly:
*Tried to bore through a 5 layer aquifer
*Built a open air sky barracks 20z levels up where a squad of bare naked wrestlers trained day in and day out
*Collapsed a mountain
*Left the game unpaused while i was passed out and woke up to a siege 3 seasons later with my food and alcohol stockpiles at 0 and all of my dwarves very unhappy at living conditions

>>188003563
Have you fuckers ever heard of "ignore the retard" or "just discuss the fucking game"? Are you so insular that you have never had a single fucking shitposter?

>>188003853
I've been shitposting here since 2012. They are just used to certain types of shitposting. Everyone like their own brand.

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>>188003853
Sadly ignoring them wound up with the last thread hitting image limit with half of it being furfaggotry.

>captcha: POST CYCLISTS
Fuck you captcha, you post cyclists, you... DOUBLE HOBO!

FotF: http://www.bay12forums.com/smf//index.php?topic=159164.msg7553641#msg7553641

>>188003853
yeah, only communicating in text for the last 100 posts really enriched the discussion in the last thread, didn't it?

spamming irrelevant images harms the thread regardless of whether anyone replies, and he needs to stop.

>>188004052
>Sadly ignoring them wound up with the last thread hitting image limit with half of it being furfaggotry.

How does not ignoring them make it any better? Whether you state how it bothers you or not doesn't change the amount of pictures posted.

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>>187987929
this story and picture makes me want to draw

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of course, no library would be complete without its own ghost librarian.

it's the girl the tantruming axedwarf beat to death, if anyone remembers.

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>>188009107
here's the killer.

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I finally did it bros.
I dug through an aquifer.

>>188009107
>>188009258
What type of ghost is she? And just how badly messed up is her killer? I'd like to see his profile screen. People say that tantrums are impossible now, but I can believe you, especially since I've got one dwarf who requires constant pampering to avoid being "under a great deal of stress" while all the others are living less fulfilling lives and dealing with it.

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He did it again. This time he killed one of the human mercs.

>>188010015
She's just an ordinary ghost, a restless haunt. Entirely harmless.

There are several factors that have contributed to making tantrums rarer. The first one is the replacing of the thought system with the emotion system. The emotion system just seems to be more player friendly than the thought system was. However, even though the emotion system made tantrums rarer, it was still fairly easy to get them, especially if your dorfs saw a lot of corpses in a short time.

A second factor is the inebriation effects implemented in version 0.42. One effect of inebration is that dorfs become fearless. Fearlessness means that they don't react when they see scary things, i.e. corpses, ghosts, etc. Since seeing death was one of the biggest sources of unhappiness, making dwarves indifferent to it certainly made the tantrums even rarer.

However, there are still lots of negative emotions that don't become nulled by alcohol. Being attacked, sleeping without a proper bedroom, not having access to recreation, drinking booze without a mug, using a water source without a well, etc are all examples of emotions that still affects a drunk dorf. All of those probably contributed to the moodiness of this axedorf.

>>188009630
Always a feeling of relief, nice goin' there Urist

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http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=159164.msg7553641#msg7553641
>FotF

http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=165410.0
>Thanks for another great month as we continuing winding this release up. I'm going to an event at Northwestern in the middle of the month to give a talk about the "future of games", whatever that ends up being! So that'll be fun. For the rest of the month, we'll be working on the remaining bits that need to be polished and tested. We probably won't quite finish, but hopefully it'll be close enough that an October release is guaranteed. Look at all this hope!
>October release

Holy shit, so we have to endure another month of shitposting.

>>188012310
someones' got to stop him from seeing all these hipsters.

have you seen the websites of any of these hipster conventions? they always claim to be indie and counterculture, but half of their lectures are about corporate bullshit like entrepreneurship and marketing, or maybe "scholarly research" at some corporate funded think tank. I don't like the thought of these drones influencing Toady.

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>>188012647
>In the most recent dev log you mentioned prisoners, is imprisonment specific to goblin sites right now or do other civs do it aswell now in the coming version?Can we rescue them in adventure mode?
>Yeah, everybody can do it, and they are the same as the world gen prisoners. Somebody mentioned that those might not work in some sites. I haven't changed that, but if you can find them in adv mode, you can rescue them, and dwarf squads will be able to rescue even non-findable ones.


>all civs can now take prisoners
>site structures don't have a place for them yet
>they'll be forever in limbo until Toady fixes it in 10 years
>mfw
Fucking hell, Toady.
I mean, yeah sure, it's better than the alternatives (only gobs take prisoners or the release is pushed back a few months just to fix that), but still.

>>188012310
>That said, if it starts generating prejudices based on, as you listed, appearance, is this even going to be a game people want to play? If you are playing adventure mode and the game says you are the wrong color or sex etc. to speak to somebody, or your dwarves start spitting no certain people, or worse, I think we incur a deeper obligation with our players out there in the real world than just saying "oh the generator did that, no big deal".
t. Toady
We don't want to trigger anyone right?

>>188013684
I think it'd be okay as long as the player could affect it, and it wasn't necessarily something that happened every time.

>>188012310
>But yeah, prisoner rescue squads will rescue other prisoners (sometimes random humans from world gen too). Once they don't return, it won't be too long before you realize that an entire squad was imprisoned or killed, and you can then risk a rescue. Small/lone squads of dwarves sneak better, so sometimes it makes sense to send a single dwarf on a rescue mission, so you don't have to risk your whole army. Even if your dwarves aren't listed, you can still attempt a small-party rescue by sending a general purpose site raid, since the raid squad will always try to sneak first. Later we'll have more specific orders and options.
I cannot wait until I can send my squad of steel-clad berserkers to wreak havoc amongst the goblins and take loot and prisoners and stuff. It would also be amazing when playing a dead civ with no dwarves left, as you can help your population grow by rescuing dwarven prisoners and slaves, that might join your fort and work for you.

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Reminder to elfposters that elves are shit at warfare

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>>188015506
>the ferocious onslaught

>>188015506
>OPEN THE DRAWBRIDGE YOU LITLE SHITS WE CANT GET IN

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>>188015506
such sieges are more common than you think, and it hasn't much to do with which races are invlolved.

if you want to know which race is strongest, you need to rely on statistic empirical studies, rather than isolated anecdotes.

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>>188015506
Generally yeah.

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>>188015506
It's off to war for me, fellas.

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>>188016521
Feels nice to be greeted by enemy propaganda

I've got a dwarf who keeps on going to recover his pet hedgehog, putting it on his shoulder, then dropping it exactly one tick later, walking a few steps away and then starting over. Does anyone know what to do about this?

I find it a bit odd that the one type of organ meat I actually eat with any regularity irl, turkey liver, apparently does not exist in DF, but turkey intestines, which I've never heard of anyone using for anything irl, are produced with every turkey slaughtered in DF.

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>>188017283
Be glad it's just a hedgehog?

Hey /dfg/, I'm the fort poster from yesterday, the one doing a terrifying glacier with no stone. Do people want me to keep posting about it, because it seemed to drown out other posts a little last time.

If I put a hatch in my well shaft can the bucket still come down through it or would I need to open the hatch with a lever?

Hey...
I'm streaming again
it's Xanta_ if you want to watch

>>188020485
you need to open it, it won't work
or thats what the wiki says

>>188021161
OK thanks anon. Just to check before I fuck up, if there is an artifact hatch which is closed, there is no way anything like a flying FB can get through it?

>>188021367
Nope, unless the diagonal z-level movement bug is involved

Is there any way to increase the influx of books from caravans?

>>188022765
I think buying more of a certain good makes them bring more next year.

>forget to stop dorfs from cooking all my drinks- making plants
>dead gobbo in only non- cavern water source and a kea took my only pick
>caravan arrives
>not a single pick, drinks barrel, or plump helmet
toady why

>>188023134
>not managing your foodstuffs properly
>not having a spare pick or materials to forge one
>not using a pump to fill a secure, 2+ z-levels deep water tank
What do you think this is, a school trip?

>>187987901
>UTTERANCES
you may not be aware of this, but utterances has nothing to do with kobolds being hostile, and it has nothing to do with their inability to speak either. literally all it does is give them cute names, which is half the charm with them.

I know the wiki says otherwise, but the wiki is wrong. the main reason I haven't edited it myself is because I haven't experimented with it very much.

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>A vile of force of darkess has arrived!
>zero goblins
>siege ends immediately

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>>188026932

How good is aluminium for artifact weapons?

>>188027268
not very good lol

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>>188027268
About this good.

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>>188027268
>>188028359
This is just embarrassing.

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>>188013684
>>188012310
Called it some years ago, I knew it

He's not directly saying there won't be prejudices, just that he'll put some obligatory ''Be advised, this game can offend some people dude'' message before playing the game, like th pegi messages on comercial video games

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Just got this migrant, by herself (all my other waves had at least 6 dwarves in them) and her bio seemed a bit odd. Should I worry about anything? She is a B suturer and has 9s for a few social skills

>>188014518
>playing a dead civ with no dwarves left, as you can help your population grow by rescuing dwarven prisoners and slaves, that might join your fort and work for you
surprise great idea senpai
It's kinda weird to think that after all of these years, we'll finally have a tangible power about who is and who we dont want to be part of our fort
>Have migrants you dont want?
''Send them to a vault and let angels kill them bro''
>Oh shit, gobbos killed almost everybody, and migrants and visitors barely come because of the perceived danger, what do I do?
Just rescue some long abandoned dwarves in the gobbos forts, etc.

pretty dope alltogether, can't wait

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What's with these children? There's so damn many of them, it's driving me nuts!

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>>188029760
That is screaming vampire to me.

>>188026795
you should do it anon

If you dont want/cant get bothered to do it yourself, post the info here, and some anon will edit the wiki

we should try to have the wiki as accurate as possible

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>>188030119
What is the difference between this vampire and the mosquito?

>>188029332
>he'll put some obligatory ''Be advised, this game can offend some people dude'' message before playing the game, like th pegi messages on comercial video games
that's funny, because it's not how I interpret what I wrote. it seems more like he said that he might or might not add it, but probably not, because he doesn't want to risk offending anyone. I doubt mnay people would get offended, though. Mount and Blade got away with the in-game sexism entirely (they even called playing as a woman a "challenge").

>>188030323
one only sucks blood

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>>188030323
What?

>>188030112
Just one of those embarks. In my current one 37/112 dorfs are children. Two forts before little shits were almost 50% of the population. It's pretty infuriating, but unless you're willing to accidentally all the children, there isn't much you can do about it.

>>188030323
mosquito stops sucking when you slap it?

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>>188030112
Release them into the caverns anon. Test the to see who is worthy of living.

>>188030397
>they even called playing as a woman a "challenge
nah, you are fucking with me, that can't be true


Toady is concerned with people not getting offended. He doesnt even go reach to sjw levels, but he doesnt want to make people feel bad for no reason

On the other side, his fanbase and his autism for realism get the best of him most of the times, that's why we can beat a mother to death with his baby's corpse and stuff like that
Tbh, if prejudices serve a proper function, and with the always getting more complex conversation and personality systems, it'll probably come in the SS update, because it will be needed

>>188030674
>>188030816
I have two necromancers as neighbors, so maybe a solution lies there somewhere.

>>188030886
>beat a mother to death with his baby's corpse
>mother
>his

>>188031319
She identifies as a man you shitlord

>>188030886
>nah, you are fucking with me, that can't be true
go ahead and play it. when you select your character background, they call starting as a male noble "easy mode", and starting as a female commoner the more challenging mode. in the actual game, you lose a lot of functionality when you play as a woman. you'll need more fame than a male character to become a vassal for a king, and even then, they'll refuse to give you any land unless you capture it entirely on your own.

what profs should a warrior new to the game take?

>>188032231
oh jeez this is the wrong general

>>188032231
What's the game, bud?

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Actual photograph of my adventurer

>>188032793
vanilla wow

>>188030886
There's another factor here that's more important in the grand scheme, and that's the power of prejudice and bias as a driver for plot. It's a pretty ubiquitous story element in fiction generally, and in fantasy especially. Add to that the fact that IRL relatively small phenotypic and cultural differences lead to a lot of bias. Its deliberate exclusion in whatever DF's final form looks like would be a weaker story generator, and lead to radically different species and cultures existing in a harmony that strains credulity. I can't imagine that when Toady starts dealing with this aspect of the simulation directly that he won't naturally come to this conclusion as well and add some kind of mechanic for bias.

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>>188031127
>tfw only 2/124 are children

>>188032806

Whats the point of being this ript if you cant even find a armor that can cover your arms and legs? yo would die to the first swarm of toddlers with spears and bows

>>188032806
the chad warrior

>>188035372
the virgin anon

My CoTG is listed as having killed a moon monster when he was 6. What is a moon monster ad how do I tame them?

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>>188038291
I can't believe Reisen is dead

>>188038291
it's a type of night troll, a category of randomly generated monsters. they don't appear in fort mode. even if they did, they're intelligent and thus untamable.

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>>188034985
Ethics having a prejudicial effect needs to be in before worrying about any of the other shit.

There's no reason someone from a hardcore "no slavery, no cannibalism, no torture" civ would view a "enslave all the things so they can torture our food supply to soften it up" civ member neutrally, but spit at a member of their own civ who took a barfight too far and wound up a murderer.

The bandit reactions are a good start, but shit like "your ilk disgust me, state your business and begone before I send your head back to the flesh peddling scum you call countrymen, or would they just think I was giving them a snack?" would fit in better than the standard "greetings goblin, have you considered suicide lately?" stuff we get now.

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Is the first ever ambush having three necromancers normal?

>>188039251
Bookbinder Necromancer?
So that is a
THREADOMANCER?
*ba dum tss*

>>188039537
Boo. Hiss.

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>>188039537
Never post again

>>188039251
They are doing some recon
They will come back later

>>188039128
I agree that it needs to be addressed, but I'm not sure about "before worrying about any other shit."
I think there's plenty of shit that needs to be worried about and a lot of it is structurally more important than dealing with prejudice at either the personal or institutional level.

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Kobby

>>188040092
Okay. Well, my militia is designed with an undead siege in mind, so hopefully full bronze and silver hammers are enough.

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Alright boyos, name my latest fort, I'll be embarking in a terrifying tundra with some mountains, while my civ is at war with all neighbours, meaning elves and goblins.

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>>188040801
THUNDERSLAUGHTER

>>188040801
Iceanvil

>>188040801
I hit random a few time and got Nekikducim- Coldworks

>>188041250
Heh, fitting. Extra challenge: cavern fortress, with a permanent opening to the surface to let invaders in.

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Dwarves are sadistic sometimes when they attack. I just had a troll attack from the caverns and my legendary swordsdwarf and axedwarf took turns cutting off every single body part on the troll and cutting out non-essential organs like the spleen before finally chopping off the trolls head. Wtf? They could have killed him at any point but they decided to toy with the poor bastard

>>188020342
Little late but yes I would like that

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>>188041941
Okay. I'll post a bit, but only for two hours or so. Anyway, just booted up the game and set up a miltia with this sort of armour - just bronze, then Fashuktizon (the artifact bronze spear) for the militia commander.

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>>188041792
No mercy for enemies of the fortress

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>>188042698
Oh, and this is the profile of our ever so brave militia commander if you were wondering. He goes by "Dodok Climateboats", a heroic name indeed. By all accounts, he seems quite good for the role of Saviour of Spiralknife!

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>>188042920
As you can see at the bottom, he's the father of the fortresses entire population of children (two).

Interestingly enough though, someone else mooded, and somehow I managed to supply the bones without too much hastle.

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>>188043171
Anyway, I think that our trusty three man militia is enough to breach the caverns safely, so I just did (because we NEED wood bad: I made a makeshift tree farm, but that obviously isn't enough to satisfy our wood only economy).

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>>188041181
>>188041250
I like these two the best, so I'll roll for it. If my last post number is greater than 5, I'll go for Iceanvil, if it is not, I'll name it Coldworks.

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>forest titan attacks me
>one of the merchant speardwarves kills it with one strike to the head
>instead of leaving with the merchants he descends into unrevealed caverns
What was meant by this?

>>188044095
amazing

>>188044209
merchants occasionally leave through the caverns. the game doesn't recognise the difference, as long as they leave the play area.

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>>188044486
>blizzard men
o fug

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>>188045497
Please don't hurt them

>>188044740
He was the only one who left through caverns. Also, if that was true he would leave through the first cavern layer, but he took a huge detour to go to the lower level through a hidden passage.

Am I the only one here that likes Adventure mode but not Fortress mode?

>>188046627
Me too.

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>>188043581
The only enemy we've faced is the menacing Giant Toad, which our trusty Militia Commander managed to defeat with his artifact spear. Other than that, I've managed to harvest around 300 logs from Cavern 1. Going deeper is a must, as no only do I not have any other fuel at the moment, but I don't have anything else I can build with.

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>>188046782
He'll be back stronger.

>>188046683
idk but to me adventure mode just seems like a unique and euphoric experience whereas fortress is just kinda bland.

>>188046782
How the hell do you cut the head off a giant toad with a spear

>>188047097
Very carefully.

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>>188046923
I fully believe that it was Toady's incarnation, to punish the dwarves of Spiralknives for what I just did.

What did I just do? Well, I "liberated" some goods from the kindly merchants of course - we need the supplies, and they can't have anything weighing them down as they try to escape the Terrifying biome, can they?

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>>188047169
Wow, you fucking thief.

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>set up a temporary dormitory, because the grand design is grand and it takes time to dig out all that shit
>place ~30 beds for dorfs
>see dorfs sleeping on the ground
>what the fuck
>investigate
>all beds are occupied by fucking brats
>they don't even sleep, they just fucking sit there and play while hard-working dorfs lay in dirt
Sometimes I think Toady purposefully does this kind of shit to piss off the players.

>>188047169
Why do you bother removing the trade depot? Just seize it all from the trade interface.

>>188047169
why does dfhack add these "are you sure" boxes everywhere? it's almost insulting.

>1st artifact is a coke toy hammer made by a dwarven child
>2nd is an iron cabinet
>3rd is a chert mechanism
fuck this fort

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>>188047169
>>188047470
I prefer "roguish bandit". Anyhow, it's for the prosperity of the great fort Spiralknife!
>>188047785
To be quite honest, I don't care about the goods, I just need more wood so I can forge some mechanisms.

In other (less steal-y) news, I have a cunning plan! I'm done with burning all of my precious wood as charcoal, and have decided, for the first time ever, to use magma forges. Guides? Psssht, who needs 'em!
(red=magma, if you couldn't tell. And yes, the bedrooms are unused. Probably).

>>188047567
If the kids aren't sleeping in the beds then they aren't occupied. Just standing on the tile doesn't prevent other dwarves from using them. You were probably seeing hunters sleep in the dirt, it's a thing they do.

>>188047945
Artifact furniture and mechanisms are both good, though.

>>188048665
I have dorfs sleeping on the ground within the boundaries of dormitory while kids sit on the beds and play. I've just watched one dorf come to the dormitory, stand on the tile between beds and fall asleep on the ground while more than half of the beds has children playing make believe on them.

>>188047567
If you have 30 beds, just start making bedrooms.

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>>188048237
So, here we go. Melbil Edandomas, Mason, breaches. This champion of bravery and suicidal stupidity, was specifically chosen for his "special skills". He has no freinds or family, so hopefully if he dies (which is, lets be honest, extremely likely, no-one will be too upset.

>>188049679
He said before it's a temporary dorm while he digs out the real shit. I do it, too. Kind of necessary for large projects that have to be done early.

>>188048237
>To be quite honest, I don't care about the goods, I just need more wood so I can forge some mechanisms.
Oh the depot was made of wood?

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>>188050360
Yeah, it's the only building material I'm allowed to use, as per /dfg/s rules. Makes everything rather tricky, seeing as I'm on a treeless tundra. Luckily for me though, it seems my haphazard attempt to set up magma forges is working. The reservoir is filling up nicely.

>>188048803
Only worth 12k and 6k though, and I don't need either for years

Do all potential migrants right now only offer to be bards or soldiers?

No working migrants?

>>188051014
Yup

>>188050646
Huh? Weren't you on a glacier? I thought you were allowed to use ice blocks.

In current version, is there anything interesting to do in adventure mode?

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>>188050646
And Toady seems to be mad at me again: a Cave Crocodile wandered into my entrance. Luckily, our valorous militia and a plucky soap maker defeated him. If I were being practical, I'd throw him into the volcano to prevent re-animation, but I really want Id the Soapmaker to eat crocodile tonight, so the body is off to the butchery!

>>188051116
I was mistaken, turns out it's a tundra. Only difference is that there isn't even ice blocks for me to use.

>>188051357
Depends on the kind of thing you find interesting.
I find researching legends mode, picking out something interesting (like the last living titan or an uninhabited island) and doing something with that in between lots of roaming around and exploring very interesting. You might not.

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So, as I was bringing that Cave Crocodile to the butchery, the obvious happened: it reanimated, surprise surprise. Unlike what we were all expecting though, a miner literally DECAPITATED it in only a few swings of his pick. I think that this man deserves a title. What name should I bestow upon this miner, /dfg/?

>Started an adventure game
>I am in a 4x4 room with no door

What the fuck?

>>188052127
There a roof? Try climbing out.

>>188052127
can you fast travel?

>>188051357
visit old forts
kill bandits, monsters, and angels

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BOLD

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>>188053145
>dogbold
Ewww

>>188052446
>>188052598
Nevermind, I didn't recognize the door. Fucking hillocks.

Now what the hell is Giant Cheetah Recruit?

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>>188052081
Some asshole doesn't like bronze apparently - it's a cassierite scepter with bismuthinite rings. Wasteful bastard.
BUT. We now have three magma forges up and running, and six magma forges. Mechanisms for all! I think now that I can equip a proper militia (i.e. one bigger than three guys), I can properly explore caverns II and III, and find adamantine or capture interesting "pets" to help us against the undead.

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It's time for elv

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Elv is best race without a doubt

>>188053354
a giant cheetah that is trained by someone, probably goblins or bandits. kill it before it kills you.

>>188053403
>>188053592
>>188053816
>>188053816
And that's my cue to leave for today. Might keep on updating you on this "fort" if any of you are interested, sometime.

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>>188053326
KOLDB

>>188053916
Oh I know I should kill it. Just haven't played adventure for a long time. Forgot all about butchering and stuff.

Stabbed it with a sword that lodged and beat it to death with shield instead of pulling sword back out. I feel ridiculous.

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>>188053958
Stop posting these dirty dogs in my thread

I see that it's time to stop posting in this thread now. Good night.

>>188053948
Great, so this autist is not only bringing the image limit closer, hes also driving away interesting posters. Fucking spammer faggot.

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>>188054208
Eat shit nerd kobolds have wet noses and floppy ears.

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Kobold pet!

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>Summer is over, they said

>The kids will be back in school they said

>The shitposting will drop and all return to normal

sometimes i think we should close down the general for a couple of months just to weed the grass and trim the hedge a little

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>>188054951
You too

>>188055425
That or move the general to a different site that allows us to ban anyone doing this porn posting

>>188055425
>>188055597
We could start one on infinitychan I guess.

This could have been avoided if toady had just updated the game.

>>188055703
I support it.

>>188055895
I'm just watching as the image limit counts down compared to the replies. There's going to be no room for good posts here tomorrow.

>>188055703

I don't really fond that place but more in favor of simply closing shop until next update

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Elv butt

>>188055597
>>188055703
>>188055425
>>188055937

>People are getting worked up over some of the tamest shitposting I've ever seen

Jesus christ you're just gonna have to smile and take it. You really think anything is gonna change until the update? We're more or less completely out of shit to talk about barring the rare random with a good idea. I mean I know shitposting is bad but fuck, is this all it takes for /dfg/ to get buttblasted? I mean come the fuck on, can't you all grasp this is just a temporary state of anarchy while we wait for the update? It'll pass once that hits and then everything will be back to normal. Like for real, this isn't hard to figure out. I guess its true that /dfg/'s comfyness caused it to have a fucking Reddit-tier inability to deal with shitposting.

Its annoying sure but honestly its hardly a big deal. Just embrace the madness, it won't last.

>>188056061
I don't know, it might be worth a shot, if that also fails then we could just stop making generals until the update.

>>188056348
>implying Toady will ever update the game
no, we are in eternal shitposting now, and it will only escalate from here

>>188056616
I mean if that were the case then I reeeaally couldn't give a shit, because then this general would definitely die out no matter what happens, so either way its a moot point.

>>188056348
Eeeeeeeeeh I don't really know. I do think that closing the thread down for a while would be good honestly.

>>188056038
Just do your job of good old Report&Ignore
I suggest also just filtering "elv"

>>188056348
desu, image spamming isn't really a thing on any of the boards I post on. it's mostly a problem when people spam threads, but those seem to get removed fairly quickly. shitposting on those boards is usually just slightly off topic banter that everyone can have a laugh at.

this is different, because it's clearly a malicious attempt to harm the community.

>>188055703
Then the threads can get spammed with /p9k/ fags?

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Do you prefer vanilla elv or chocolate elv?

>>188057120
I reserve my seed for Lion Women and Shark Women

>>188056923
>this is different, because it's clearly a malicious attempt to harm the community.

But when you get down to it, what's the state of the community? The answer is jack and shit, because we're all just pissing around waiting for the update. The only reason this is happening is because people got bored. When the new update comes, people will stop getting bored, the general will be flooded with new blood, and we'll all be revitalized. This is just something to be endured.

I actually lurk in several generals and honestly, I'm liking this shitposting a looot more than the other stuff I've seen. Most of it was drama and feuding between namefags and it was like a fucking high school with its cliques and gossip. I fucking hate it. But just posting lewd images? I mean, that's tolerable for me.

>>188055425
>visit 4chan since 2007 when totse died
>over the last few years get more and more tired at the complete failure by the staff and degradation from what we lovingly called a shithole into an actual shithole
>get the urge to post a kea
>even /dfg/ is getting spammed with off topic nonsense

When 4chan shuts down it's going to be funny hearing everyone give their different bullshit rationalizations when all it took was mods giving the slightest fuck. Good on Moot for getting out when the place was still worth money.

>Visited my old fort that was once ovverun by goblins
>Armour stockpile is still there, can't find any weapon though
>Some merchat just sits there selling clothes

>>188057120
well that's a ding dong bannu lad

>>188057351

Thus closing the general for some time would be good and healthy

Its not like moderators going to care about some fringe general on /vg/

>>188057351
>But just posting lewd images? I mean, that's tolerable for me.
Yeah no
Literally 0 effort shitposting, and increase image counts

>>188057351
I bet my kidneys the shitposters don't even play the game, friend, so there would be no reason for them to stop posting once the update arrives.

>>188057629
I mean, you could always just try reporting these images.

>>188057351
like it has been said before, it eats away at the image limit, making it impossible to actually have relevant game discussion. as we have seen during the day, there ARE still people here who are playing the game and are happy to share their experiences. I haven't seen a single bump today. the image spamming just ruins the general for those who actually want to discuss the game.

plus, whenever the spammer says something about the game, it becomes obvious that he doesn't belong in the general.

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>>188057328
A man of culture I see

>>188057713

On it already

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Shark women

>>188057669
>shitposters
>s

Fucking dingo men. Why are they so deadly?

Well, you had a good run /dfg/, I'll be back when the update hits.

dead thread

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Who the fuck are those people and why are they terrorizing my reclaimed fort?

>>188061842
reclaiming is buggy

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This demographic aint right.

>>188063613
Ded civ?

>>188064403
Nah, just reclaimation of a site with tavern in it, and I'm swarmed by bards for some reason. Maybe I should stop declining.

Civ is fine as far as I'm aware.

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This guy is too hard on himself.

>>188069058
Do you want to build a snowman anon?

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>>188069058

>>188069067
>Warning for false report

Maybe I wouldn't have to report his images as illegal content if you fucks actually did your damn job.

So what is /dfg/'s opinion on kobolds?

>>188069595
I appreciate your enthusiasm but janitors and the other 4chan staff shitters in charge of deleting things take stuff more seriously when multiple people report posts, which is to say, when someone is shitting up your thread with

Kob

Elv

Kob

Elv

you ALL need to report them

>>188070105
I wish we had someone dedicated to removing shitposting as the dedicated /egg/ janitor against KSP is

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Automatons in DF when?

>>188070898
maybe with magic as golems and shit
maybe never

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>>188069058
This embark used to be completely white. Oh well, this ain't so bad I guess.

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>>188071062
Well they are a planned feature in the development page, so we'll probably get them eventually.

>>188071062
Golems could be a pretty cool addition.
I want to be able to melt down my metal FB corpses too for assloads of ore...

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My dear, you do not have a dining room.

Also seriously, bismuth bronze? Why stop there, why not just demand a divine metal dildo while we're at it?

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>>188071491
At least they're asking for something that's possible to make without a mood.

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>>188071323
Alright /dfg/, you named my fort so I'll let you give nicknames to my starting seven. First seven posts decides the names of whoever they want. Just starting the fort now after having dinner and watching a movie, and ready for some comfy dorfing.

Also, anybody got some tunes they wanna share while I play?

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>>188072020
Bigdick McPenis

>>188072228
For which dwarf?

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>>188072020
Avuz - 'Anus'

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>>188072273
Expedition leader, even if it's a girl, especially if it's a girl.

>>188072020
Medtob 'Anal Drum'

>>188072020
one of the girls has to be 'cumdumpster'

Name expedition leader Chad or Stacy depending on gender

>>188072603
>>188072739
This was a bad idea wasn't it

>>188072758
absolutely
Too late to go back now.

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>>188072758
You did this to yourself

>>188072758
Ducim Bad Rectum Armageddon

What's necessary for an elf civ to exist?

A neutral low savagery forest?

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Don't slow down now ladies, there are still two more dwarves who need nicknames!

>>188074339
Call whichever of the remaining two has the biggest chin "Chynn the Redditor" don't ask why

>>188074497
>he has a broad chin
I guess my metalcrafter is the lucky redditor

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good day

>>188074705
perfect

>>188073781
I dont think savagery really matters for elves

>>188074339
Alright

Name your hunter Hunter

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>>188075307
Done
On another note, a wild yak has killed three of my dogs

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>>188075490
Four

>>188074497
Why?

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>>188075490
>cumdumpster is a bone carver

What role does the player have in the DF world?

>>188075817
mysterious guiding force

>>188075706
Don't ask

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Is there anyway to convince the elves to stop this senseless war with my civ?

>>188077473
Kill them all.

>>188072020
The One They Call Stumpgrinder for a miner of your choice.

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>>188077473
death

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>>188075490
>Bigdick McPenis
>"plant seeds"

>>188040151
I mean more important than like "I hate light skinned goblins" or "blonde elves with broad ears are shitbags" which adds little outside of a random asshole button vs moddable ethics changing interactions and shit entirely.

>>188080097
I feel that "lets fucking kill everyone with [feature]/that believes in [deity]" is pretty realistic.

Im meeting all the requirements but the monarch hasnt come for years.

>>188088746
Are you sure your civ still has one? I've had bizarre delays in their arrivals too. One time he arrived years after I met the requirements, another time I got the "Monarh has arrived" message and the entourage appeared, but with no monarch. Several years later when the monarch died one of my Mountainhome's dwarves took over.

>>188089242
Yes. I even checked in legend viewer for her precise location.

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Kobold butt

Does anyone else use DF to generate names for characters in other games? Right now I'm starting a game of DCSS as Datandurad Tabarlamlarul.

>DCSS
Get the fuck out of my thread

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I can't wait for toady to start working on the romance stuff, I want to form a family with a cute kobold in adventure mode.

>>188093783
I do all the time.
When I played Persona 5 I used the Elf language to name my phantom thieves Vilelaurithi.

>>188096225
memes aside relationships is something I am actually looking forward to.

>>188096560
>Sex is refereed to as copulating and it's fade to black stuff

>>188093783
I've used dwarves from a fort as NPCs in a DnD campaign before.

>>188096782
I don't care about the physical stuff, just relationships. It just seems like having NPCs able to fall in love could cause a lot of fun stuff to happen.

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But what about starting a relationship with elv? Will other elv be ok with her marrying a non-elf? Discrimination could add many layers.

>>188096958
>i am in love with Urist the Crafting of Craft
>i feel nothing in particular

>>188097052
Elves in Dwarf Fortress are canonically tall lanky cannibal hippies with fucked up teeth and shitty hair.

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So many possibilities, so many elv to choose from.

Too bad it's gonna take several decades until we get it.

>>188097603
Can you post furfaggotry instead of elv thank

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I just can't stop thinking about elv

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>>188097736
Why would I post that instead of elv? Are you crazy? Elv is superior.

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they said it was impossible... behold! marksdwarf actually training archery!!!

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>>188098237
Incroyable

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>all these goblin nobles in my civ
This is the result of all that racemixing /pol/ warned us about!

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>>188100118
You call that diversity? pffft.

>>188098237
I've never understood the frustration about markdswarf training. Just build an archery target, assign it to the squad, and set the squad to active/training.

>>188102228
Yeah, its good to also make sure you have quivers, crossbows, and ammo. you also need to assign ammo in the military menu (m-f-c) for (C)ombat and (T)raining, set your marksdwarf squad alert to Active/Training, create a archery range and assign the squad to it.

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>>188102228
Agreed, I have more trouble getting them to do anything else. I have to unassign their ammo or forbid it all if I want them to train any other combat skills. A little armor user would do my shooters some good so I could protect them a bit better.

Anyone streaming later tonight/early tomorrow? I'm working a night shift and am really bored.