/indie/ - Indie and Misc. Games General

First for continued RNG discussion.

>>187854673
You can't bluff an AI.

>>187854886
You can if it's a good AI. I remember it was quite easy and powerful with the game GUN that was one of the first games released on Xbox 360.

>>187854886
The AI can pretend to be fooled. Thing is, it's harder to write a mediocre AI than a smart one, which is harder than the usual dumb AI.

>>187855491
And smart AI are harder to distinguish from cheating AI.

>playing a RTS
>send my unit to attack the enemy base
>his units are ready
Of course, what were the odds?

Only tangentially related but most deep learning AIs can actually be fooled fairly easily.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adversarial_machine_learning


Also, vidya enemy "AI" has nothing to do with learning or intelligence.

>>187855675
>most deep learning AIs can actually be fooled fairly easily
Okay. Go play Alien Isolation and tell us how it went.

>>187855750
You're thinking in completely wrong context. Vidyagaems don't have learning AIs. It's just another set of scripted behaviors.

>>187856153
But Isolation is famous for the Ayyylmao learning your move.
Same with Quake 3's bots, who apparently are pretty smart.

>>187848992
Yeah, pretty much all my questions were answered.
Usually people either don't bother and ignore, or propose to figure everything by yourself.

>>187856258
>But Isolation is famous for the Ayyylmao learning your move.
No, Isolation is famous for its marketing making people think that the Alien can learn your moves.
The most intelligent ACTUAL AI in gaming can beat pro dota players in a heavily simplified version of the game.

It will be years before AI in games arent anything but scripts over scripts.

>>187857261
>arent
are*

>>187856258
Because the entire game is centered around a singular enemy, they could afford to spend more of their budget making it behave in cool ways. It's still nothing but a collection of preprogrammed behaviors, it only imitates a real learning thing.

Ditto for UT/Quake bots. Most of them are just static routines and require bot routes in maps to be effective. Some like Reaper can "learn" the maps and have more human-like behavior, but it is not real machine learning.

It will be a long while before we see real learning AIs in vidya and it won't be in rendering-intensive real-time games like FPSes.

>>187857535
>the entire game is centered around a singular enemy
But they're not, though. You also fight Working Joes and humans, and they all behave differently from the Alien.
Try to know what you're actually talking about.

>>187857917
Holy shit stop being contrarian for the sake of it, you know what I meant. The alien is core focus of the game, the main selling point. Other enemies don't have half the behavior/animation polish it does.

>>187858127
>you know what I meant
No I don't.

CHECKING /in/

>>187858127
didn't the aylmao not even matter for, like, the last third of the game?

>>187858297
Welp, the point is, no current vidya has real machine learning as enemy AI. The very first realworld-applicable deep learning technologies are currently in their infancy and require hefty amounts of GPU power. More than rendering of AAA+++ games.

But I suspect we'll be seeing (indie) games with deep learning gimmicks in the near future as more and more hobbyists experiment with neural networks and their possibilities. Maybe in enemy AI, maybe in some other features.

>>187859084
Deep learning in 4x when.

>>187859084
If it spares us the indignity of Empire Earth's AI, I'm fine with it.
I like RTS, but in most case, they become more about abusing the AI than getting good at strategy. Sniping the enemy hero in Warlord Battlecry, harassing the enemy in Age of Empires 2, turtling in SupCom...

>>187859385
>more about abusing the AI than getting good at strategy
Videogame AI in a nutshell.

>>187861128
To be fair, some FPS have pretty good idea, so you need to use real strategy. FEAR, for example, is pretty good, you can't hide in a corner and wait for them to come, you need to flank them.

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What should i play if i enjoyed Darkwood? STALKER games done already.

>>187862546
Condemned perhaps.

>>187862546
Similar story? Subterrain. That game with the teleportation, glitch or something.

Similar gameplay? Hotline Miami.

>>187861336
It's been long since I played FEAR but I don't remember its AI being worth the hype it got back then. They behaved as a squad instead of individuals and the radio chatter made them seem more human, but they were still dumb and abusable in many maps.

IMO arena shooter bots are the only example of a game AI that isn't particularly abusable, since their gameplay is an easy task for a computer. The moment-to-moment gameplay is mostly based on twitch skill where a computer will always beat a human unless artificially restricted. The only other required skills are map knowledge and the ability to keep item pickup spawn timers in your head. Bots excel in the latter and their routes are usually as good as human players', at least in maps with bot paths predefined by the level designer.

>>187862885
>road
What? I always used to just walk around and kill whoever I met with whatever weapon I had.

>>187862546
Teleglitch is kind of Darkwood's dumber, way less spooky cousin. It's not even a horror game really

>>187862629
>Condemned
Will check.
>>187862703
HM already done, and i'm actually trying Subterrain and failing spectacularly.

>>187863960
But are you having fun?

>games that start on monitor 2 or monitor 3 by default
reeeee

>>187854886
Poker doesn't involve that much bluffing anyways, at least not on the skill level most people are.

The thing is bluffs are only effective against certain kind of skilled players (because unskilled players have no idea what they are doing to begin with and might not pay enough attention) and even then require pretty specific circumstances to be effective and should be used sparingly.

Most of the time it's simple math, risk managment and most importantly dealing with the tilt after bad beats.

>>187864212
I guess so, but failing to keep your contamination in check early on lead you to race for medikit and decontamination pills endlessly until you finally have enough.

>>187862546
Play it again and make different choices.

Taxi, some random indie game

CEPM2-BDB89-28T76

>>187867705
What kind of game is it?

What mod do you recommend for Stardew Valley?

>>187867705
I'll have fun trying to glitch this one later anon.
Thanks :^)

>>187869359
the ones that expand your fridge

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>>187854586
What the fuck what his problem?

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>>187870315
what about the mod that expand titties

Oh god, this is a real gem.

>I thought this game was really cool at first... until one gameplay mechanic pretty much brought everything to a halt.

>Unlike in Fallout 1 & 2, there is no healing skill that can be used for free without expending limited resources. All resources are extremely precious and limited. However, you can go back to town and get a medic to heal you completely for free, without limit. Pair this with the fact that you can often escape a fight by entering an area transition zone, and you can leave every fight as soon as you take damage, walk back to town, get healed, go back to where you fought that enemy, and continue fighting them, and they haven't healed at all, and that becomes obviously the easiest way to progress in much of the game, and it is *not fun*. The developers should implement a healing skill (like in Fallout 1 & 2) that can be used without expending any limited resources (or perhaps a healing skill that can be used if the player character has a healing kit, and maybe there's a small chance of that healing kit being expended or partially expended). That seems like it would be an easy fix to this serious game-breaking problem.

>>187870489
He's just confused.
I was like him in the beginning, I even thought it's a shit game.

>>187870652
He played it for 15 hours before he posted his review. 15 hours of walking back and forth between combat encounters and the healer. That's incredible.

http://store.steampowered.com/news/externalpost/steam_community_announcements/2095718613767135086

Dashbored got a small update today.

>>187870443
I'm still going through my first playthrough, but he seems like a swell guy who doesn't afraid of anything.

>>187870854
That 10x multiplier really messed my sense of ingame economy.
I fought those bandits from Jack's quest with level one character and tried to avoid using one of those 5 hypos.

>>187870489
but there's so many bandages and medshots or whatever they're called

>oh cool is that a new indie game
>wait nope its another fucking movie
Steam a shit

>>187852705
Gacha is RNG to make the game hard

>>187872407
nah
gacha is rng to make your dick hard

>>187855675
Machine learning is complete bullshit, dont waste a single second of attention on this meme

>>187870443

he's the one who knocked up the pretty lady who gave birth to the great sow. he's incredibly petty about being run off.

Starting LISA the Pointless

... Here's hoping it's good even though you dudes said it's as it says on the tin, "kinda pointless".

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I tried this and it works pretty well. I pushed those fuckin church pews over to block the entry ways and just jump in through a window.

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>>187872654
>Machine learning is complete bullshit

>>187857535
Reaperbot had no pre placed bot routes, it felt around walls for pathfinding and learned how to move about the maps from the player.
UT had handplaced waypoints and routines placed in maps.

>>187870489
Hes right. There is literally zero reason not to cheese every combat situation like this. Its trivial with the speedhack.

>>187873932
what about the fact that it's boring as shit

>>187871625
Not once you get to Deep Caverns :^)

>>187870489
Wow I kinda ruined it for myself with exit-scumming a few of the harder encounters...

But running back to town all the time? What the fuck.

>>187873271
Machine learning isnt actually teaching machines how to learn. Its completely irrelevant to the subject an AI you could communicate with or play against in a video game.
Dont believe the pop sci hype and educate yourself

>>187874449
what the fuck are you talking about
>Its completely irrelevant to the subject an AI you could communicate with or play against in a video game.
what does this MEAN

>>187874615
>>187855675
keep up

>>187870443
He's a pretty interesting character actually. There are is concrete facts about his background or his motivations, but there is enough info in the game to make speculations.

The most important thing is that he carries a wedding ring that is described as being "fake". You can find 2 real weeding rings that look exactly like his- one in the Pretty Lady's room and the other one in the Hunter's House, worn by a skeleton in a chair.

It's safe to assume the skeleton in the chair is the Hunter. Another very important thing is that you can find an empty empty trophy rack inside Hunter's House, one that looks as if something used to be hung on it.

Another detail that I think is important is that Wolfman's jacket has a hole right where the heart is, suggesting that the previous owner was killed by a bullet.

My personal theory- I believe Wolfman used to feel intense hatred towards the Hunter for some unspecified reason. Perhaps the Hunter tried to hunt him down because of his bestial appearance, maybe it was something more personal, who knows.

Anyways, I believe the Wolfman hated him so much, he decided to not only kill him, but also steal and destroy everything that was dear to him, including his entire identity and his wife, the Pretty Lady. He took his jacket and his rifle and fashioned a fake wedding ring for himself, perhaps as a form of mockery.

The only thing I'm not sure about is the empty trophy rack. It's empty but looks as if something used to hung on it, suggesting that the Wolfman is actually wearing it as a mask. On the other hand, the Protagonist notes that he hears him flapping his tail around, smells wet fur, that his breath stinks of rot. He also licks the Protagonist and actually eats (and possibly rapes) the Pretty Lady.

Perhaps his entire body is that of a wolf except for his head, so he wears the trophy to fully embrance being a Wolfman? Or maybe he just took the trophy away as another form of mockery? Not sure.

>>187874884
>There are is concrete facts
There are no* concrete facts

>>187874024
Use the speedhack. So what if its boring. If it was supposed to be fun then why is there no healing skill then?

Or wouldn't it be more boring to die or get caught up shit creek in a situation where you can't run away, can't heal because you wasted all your hypos, and have no choice but to load an earlier save and replay hours of the game doing the same shit over again.

Best case scenario you made a save every 30 minutes and go back two saves and run back to a healer for every encounter so you still have your 3 hypos left for the big fight.

>>187873932
>There is literally zero reason not to cheese every combat situation like this

>>187875114
> So what if its boring

Following your line of thinking, there is literally zero reason not to spend 10000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 hours savescumming so you can beat the final boss with your bare fits and no points in unarmed.

>>187873932
>Its trivial with the speedhack

>the game is trivial if you cheat
Gee

>>187875330
>there is literally zero reason not to spend [a gorillion] hours savescumming so you can beat the final boss with your bare fits and no points in unarmed.
I mean, if you were so inclined you should go for it. After all there was that guy who hit level 100 in WoW without belonging to either faction by picking herbs and mining copper.

>>187875603
That's not my point. My point is Ano suggested this being a possiblity somehow makes the game not fun.

I bet that if there was no doctor who offers free healing and if it was not possible to exit an area while in combat, the reviewer would simply complain that it's too hard and "unfair".

It seems that many/most(!) players will cheat/cheese if it's too easy, even if it means it will completely ruin the rest of the game for them.

Why does Starship Theory have two seemingly identical .exes? Version 1.0q

Playing LISA: The Pointless, and it did that thing LISA does there areas change visually between visits.

Very powerful, very interesting.

Note to self: Do that it own game.

>>187874167
There's still a metric ton of hypos, the really scarce things are repair kits/bullets and you can get those easily if you played it nice with the Faceless.

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>stumble through the Church on my way to the old forest hideout
>some nigger tells me the code
>alright that's cool, but It's almost night I need need to get back home
>leave to the hideout
>come back later
>mfw he isn't telling me the code anymore
Am I fucked?

>>187883856
>old forest
fuck, I meant old woods

>>187870469
abigail a cute

>>187883856
>>187883968
nevermind, I brute forced my way through it by piecing together what I remembered.

>>187883856
Have you tried checking in the journal?

>>187884460
Yeah, I didn't see any entry involving the guy or a church door code.

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Lewd.

VA-11 HALL-A was originally made for a Game Jam. Is this available to play, anywhere?

This is a PSA to all new Darkwood players. You can throw empty bottles to create broken glass that hurts enemies who step in it. 2-3 will almost kill a stick savage and it's a hell of a lot less costly than bear traps.

Zerotonin made two new games.
http://lab.serotoninphobia.info/completeguide.html
http://lab.serotoninphobia.info/thisgamewill.html

>>187888713
They also can't harm you in any way, which is a huge plus.

I find that scrap metal's a lot easier to come by than empty bottles though, and depending on what you use it for, you don't necessarily get a bottle back from every alcohol. And Trader doesn't offer bottles OR alcohol. So I wouldn't call them less costly, assuming you mean by rarity. Although bottles are less generally useful for much else, unlike scrap metal.

>>187874884
Thanks for the lenghty (you), I lost patience with the game so I missed a lot of lore.

>>187892785
You need a ton of scrap to repair your axe and shovel and to upgrade the axe.

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Tell me about him. Why does he wear the mask?

Why did he call me a liar?

Darkwood question, dropping items on the floor of my house disappear if I leave it? wardrobe is full of shit

>>187891950
this second game kek

>>187893456
Generally, when mean things are scratched onto the dead body of someone, it's referring to the dead man

>>187893634
Everything stays everywhere forever, except in very special circumstances, I believe. Gas in any generators or saws will be drained if you go to a different hideout and come back though.

>>187894247
If gas drains it's pretty slow. Just came back to hideout 2 after spending 2 nights at #3 and my #2 generator was still filled with just under 3 nights of fuel.

>>187894247
>>187894978
Thanks guys

>>187894247
>gas in generators or saws will be drained
Yeah what the fuck. I figured someone was stealing my gas

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Why is the shotgun in Darkwood so fucking satisfying, damn.

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Making some enemies

>>187874884


The Wolfman's origins are given to you in the Black Box. The man in the burned house had two daughters and a dog. The dog was considered 'one of the children'

A White Dress
A Red See-Saw
A Black Box

These gifts, for my girls.

Their hound ate the shrooms, they thought he died. The dog mutated, became intelligent, took the guise of a fox via stealing from the Hunter, and has hated the villagers and everyone in it ever since. It's why he is called 'Wolfman' despite clearly having ripped a fox's face off and put it over his own. He's a wolf-man wearing a fox's face.

>>187897101
looks good!

>>187884521

It's because the code is told to you in a dream. Through a medallion. The code, like almost any other code in the game, is etched into an item or a piece of paper. You find that item by looking at them through the journal.

Pay attention, dude.

>>187897536
What medallion? iirc all I got from the dream was the box and then I died trying to fight the chomper. In the dream the guy just kept telling me to fuck off since he was in line first, but the guy told me the code when he was sitting in the church outside of the dream.

>>187897840

I've never failed the dream. I've always been given the box + medallion after defeating the chomper.

I guess you should learn to keep a notepad on your desk if you're shit with recalling 4 numbers, my dude.

>>187898225
It definitely didn't help that I went to bed after seeing the numbers.

>>187893456
KLAMCA
yeah i know it's not an l, shut up

>tfw hit by the beartrap red chomper wombo combo

>>187897101
>He's actually fucking doing it

>>187900512
that ain't falco

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>>187897272
>>187900670

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>>187902012
just noticed there is a misplaced fly

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>>187902149

>>187902012
>>187902149
>>187902280
neat

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Probably last thing for the night. Sorry for the spam.

>>187862546
Paranoia (HL mod) (spooky+eastern bloc aesthetics)
Out of Hell (UT mod) (spooky+sometimes takes place in the woods)
Cry of Fear (HL mod) (spooky+sometimes takes place in the woods)
This War of Mine (survival/resource managment+eastern bloc aesthetics)
Teleglitch (tense top-down action+resource managment/crafting)
Betrayer (spooky+woods)
Sang-Froid: Tales of Werewolves (action tower defense+woods)
Don't Starve (craft/survival+woods)
Lone Survivor (spooky)

>spent the days collecting resources to barricade the houses
>every night, the village is getting attacked by mongol hordes
>have to run to the mongol spawning points to take a train to San Francisco to buy some weird eggs to save the village
Off all the things, this is not the kind of dream I expected darkwood to give me.

Darkwood question: someone said if I die in the Church dream I get fucked over/locked out of some cool stuff. Checked the wiki but it's laughably out of date. Say it ain't so.

Also I just reached Hideout 3 and shit is hard as fuck. Also I have so many items they won't fit in the workbench and I have a lot of reputation and not much to spend it on. Really wish these assholes would sell more than one magazine per day.

One last thing: is it true I can't upgrade my workbench to Axe levels until this so called "Chapter 2"? Because that same upgrade is keeping me from my sharpened shovel and it's fuckin lame if I gotta keep relying on this with chompers after me.

No wait I lied the last thing is there's not enough inventory upgrades in this game I need to carry everything
stacksize mod when

Is it actually possible to stun the Sow? I can't seem to get inside before the zapping ends.

/indie/ BAD END

Woah, LISA: The pointless is breddy gud. Kinda apprehensive that there's only 1 released chapter though. Going to be over pretty soon isn't it...

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>>187914496

Depends on where you are. If you already left the town with all the Infinity Franchise guys, you're about 3/4ths though the game.

>tfw just finished darkwood
God damn that was intense

>>187909001

There is an axe hidden in the old woods

>>187909001
> someone said if I die in the Church dream I get fucked over/locked out of some cool stuff. Checked the wiki but it's laughably out of date. Say it ain't so.
I don't think so. The olny thing that changes is that the fight in the basement will be a lot harder.

>Also I just reached Hideout 3 and shit is hard as fuck.
Use guns, or even better, spend night at hideout 1/2 instead.

> Also I have so many items they won't fit in the workbench
Yeah that happens eventually. Just make more bear traps, barricades, etc. and limit the amount of each resource you store.

>I have a lot of reputation and not much to spend it on. Really wish these assholes would sell more than one magazine per day.
Buying 1 mag, 1 shell and 1 bullet costs 180 rep, buying 2 wires to make a lockpick costs 60. That's what I do every day.

>One last thing: is it true I can't upgrade my workbench to Axe levels until this so called "Chapter 2"?
Yes. level 6 and higher requires pincers and those are only found at the swamp.

> Because that same upgrade is keeping me from my sharpened shovel and it's fuckin lame if I gotta keep relying on this with chompers after me.
Craft a new shovel then? You just said you have a lot of rep, spend it on that.

>>187896068
It's the sound effect, they are 10/10 for all guns. Also the subtle screen shake.

>>187909001
I died in the church dream, so I don't know if it locked me out of anything. It seemed like I was able to do what I was supposed to be able to do though.

Hideout 3 can suck. If it's really a problem and you can't git gud with your barricades and traps you can always be a shitter and spend the nights at hideout 1 or 2. As far as too many items goes, you can always drop shit on the ground or put it into wardrobes and such.

See >>187916618

I didn't find the max inventory size too restricting. With a maxed hotbar and inventory I only had problems because of my hoarding tendencies, but after I learned to not pick literally everything up I had more than enough room to loot what I needed while having my axe, pistol, shotgun, molotovs, and enough ammo.

>>187897237
>The Wolfman's origins are given to you in the Black Box.
I guess that's plausible, given he is the one who helps you open it.

>>187917659
>The olny thing that changes is that the fight in the basement will be a lot harder.
huh? I'm >>187917785 and I didn't have to fight anything for the key. Maybe I got a different basement since I tried to evade the guy after realizing I wasn't going to win, but then tried to fight my way out anyways?

>>187893456
>Why does he wear the mask?
He's wearing a hazmat suit and most likely got fused with it because of his mutations.

He was a part of the expedition to the woods, the same expedition you were a part of. You knew each other in the past and he still remembers you.

>spoiler
He's not calling you a liar, someone called him a liar after killing him, most likely the Three.

He's not actually a liar though, he was 100% correct that there is no escape and that all roads lead deeper into the woods. He was simply trying to protect the Protagonist and make the best out of the shitty situation you were both in.

>>187917963
>I didn't have to fight anything for the key
Are you sure the chompers didn't spawn after picking it up?

>>187918215
Pretty sure. I casually walked around making sure I grabbed all of the loot. There were sleeping chompers all over the place and I figured turning the radio on would be a very bad idea

UnderRail torrent where? I've searched all the sites I know are trustworthy, and I've got fuckall. Send help.

>>187918853
? I'm fairly certain last time I've been there tpb still had it. And the Russians have it too.

I'm missing something if I "accidentally" killed the mayor throught that hole inside his basement? I heard you have to fight Antek but I guess it didn't trigger.

>>187921029
There's downloads, but there's nothing even remotely recent. Is the latest available seriously 2016?

>>187922684
No, like I said Mother Russia has 2.0.2.4.
That's the latest.

Anyone fancy a 3D platform game?

Check out http://www.playhotlava.com/

I just visited the doctor in Darkwood and now i'm prepping for going to the swamp, wich items should i take with me in priority asside from guns and ammo?

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>>187923139
That's not nice.

>>187915420
Oh cool, I have no clue what you're talking about.

... Though I probably will all too soon.

Anyhow Pointless is continuing to be pretty good. Nice queasy feeling about managing items, they feel real necessary.

When people said it was "pointless" I thought it was going to just be some "lolsorandom" fluff, but at least so far, the story has been pretty compelling.

>>187797183
And how would we go about that? Send him a postcard?

>>187925862
Post on his forum, or PM the dev account listed on Steam.

>>187923462
Some planks and nails to barricade on the first night. I would go with 20 planks and 50 nails.

A full tank of gasoline would be nice as well, but not necessary.

>>187925862
Make a thread on the forum or send him an e-mail?

Learn2human interaction

>>187926496
>>187926687
The emphasis is not on the "how" but on the "we".

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>>187904094
I'm going to rework this old isaacmon title screen later

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>>187930046

I wish the devs of Darkwood released the soundtrack.

bingyzongo

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>actually feels like the original Space Funeral but better and funnier
>the game's humor constantly shits on how pretentious these games are, with a beatnik NPC representing the fans
>the whole woods area is way creepier than the blood cavern
>the ending is a huge "fuck you" to games like Space Funeral
>was made in only a few days
>was made by the person who made Space Funeral 4

How was this possible, and by this person of all people?

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>>187930795
For 9.99 yuro-dollars as (no name, no blame) certain indie developers?

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>>187924171

When you find out about the Infinity guys, you'll be about 1/3 into the game.

>>187916618
Tell me where that shit is. Or at least what location it's at.

>>187923278
Damn, I forgot Russian pirates have time machines. Is Underrail 2 any good?

>>187939882
It's great, but ends on a huge as fuck cliffhanger. But I'm sure Underrail 3 will be the best of them all!

>>187939882
Are you into cover shooters?

Who here is hyped for Card City Nights 2?

>>187935598
Is it worth a play on it's own, or would I have to play the other Space Funeral games?

>>187918331

There are zero chompers in the basement if you do the dream

>>187939226

Doctors house area, you need a key

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>>187942930
He's in Darkwood?

>>187854702
Whoever cries about RNG without having played 100% Orange Juice doesn't have any right to cry.

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>>187942998
Yeah. He really let himself down.

>>187943709
Weren't you supposed to kill him in revenge for torturing you?

>>187943856
Nah, I don't blame him. I would do the same if I were him.

>>187944039

Can only visit the Doctor's house if you do the Wolfman's pathway, though.

>>187944647
That or if you kill the Chicken Lady and learn the location of his house from the note she has

>>187943709
What the fuck is going on in that fucking game.

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>>187944919
Spooky woods are bad for your health , either mental or physical. Sometimes both.

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Brown Nomadfu is bad at lying.

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>tfw killing Wolfman after helping him
Thanks for those 2 rifles, sucker.

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>>187946953

>Not murdering a psychopathic dog that grew into the shape of a man and stole a fox's face to hide the fact he's really a dog

Help him. Love him. Hate him. That nigga's got to go.

>>187947681
His ending say that after eating the Pretty Lady, he spent the rest of his life at his hideout chasing his own tail.

So he's not really all that bad, he simply had a huge hate boner for the hunter and villagers. Can't really blame him, tvillagers are dicks andthe hunter most likely tried to kill him.

>>187946953
dumb frog poster

Question about rimworld since I am new to it
any Tips for how my starting 3 dudes should be?
and is there any 'essential' quality of life mods or shit like that

>>187950469
Roll for people that ideally :
>don't have any wounds,
>can do all jobs (almost impossible),
>are NOT pacifists,
>have passion in at least cooking, researching, and construction/crafting

If you play in a difficulty above EZ, also check for melee/shooting skills.

>>187950681
And growing is also useful, it means cutting trees and harvesting faster for a better yield, and also being able to grow more stuff.

Am I abnormal for enjoying the basebuilding in Rimworld more than I enjoy the fights?
I feel like everyone here plays in maximum difficult.

>>187939882
North underrail is sick stuff bro, there's an acid sequence that only makes sense if you're on mushroom brew irl.

http://store.steampowered.com/app/241300

Card City Nights 2 is out!
I am still in the middle of a long game so I probably buy it later myself.

>>187941308
>>187956494
hype

>>187935598
Saddest attempt to advertise your own game I ever saw.

>>187935598
Do you have a hateboner against Space Fneral?

who /prawnsuit/ here?
I restarted subnautica after the most recent patch and this time when I scanned the prawnsuits I actually got the schematics. Found aerogel, etc, got my suit.

So what the fuck do I do now? And incidentally, where can I find freakin' nuclear reactor fragments? I have a cabinet full of uranium just itching to go critical, but nothing to do with it.

>>187959165
The idea of being stuck in the depth spooks me.

Supposely, once you find a blue artefact, the Leviathan contacts you.

>>187959304
It's spoopy as hell right up to midgame. Once you have a seamoth and a cyclops and some familiarity with the biomes, it's pretty comfy.

Then you start having to go deeper into new biomes and it's back to being spoopy as all fuck.11/10 best horror game.

>>187959489
I have a seamoth. Doesn't keep me from panicking. I never knew I had thalassophobia on top of arachnophobia and whatever the phobia of being out of the game is.

>>187959656
Get the cyclops. Search mushroom forests for fragments. It really makes you feel like NEPTUNE, LORD OF THE OCEAN. (Or possibly, a hermit crab. Being able to take your base with you is nice.)

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>>187959910
>It really makes you feel like NEPTUNE
But I don't want to be a pudding-starved mememaster. I'd rather be Histoire, floating through the sky, raining death on my enemies, and being small and adorable.

>>187960219
We'll let you bargain up to Posiedon, if you want.

Jesus fuck though, I can't find the research base, and ghost leviathans are ornery as all heck.

>>187961737
>ghost leviathans
These two words shouldn't be the same.

i had a weird dream about Underrail today

>>187959165
Prawn Suits are good for 2 main things:
1. Getting a shitload of resources. Finding big mineral deposits means 6-12 of that resource (depending), plus no randomized "rolling" for resources like with rock outcrops -- what you see is always what you get. Especially useful for things like gold, quartz, and copper.
2. Story. Late/endgame story requires traveling through extreme depths at great danger and the prawn has very, very high armor, heat resistance, and crush resistance. Stick a thermal generator mod in it and never run out of air or power, load up its backpack with several snacks and water bottles for long expeditions. Apparently some people brought the cyclops for these segments but that just blows my fucking mind.

Prawn suits can also safely travel through teleporters but unfortunately this is usually stymied by the fact that they're located in caves that have low passages the suit CAN'T fit through, e.g. the one that goes from the mountain island to the floating island doesn't actually work both ways which sucks ass because it'd save so much travel time in that slow suit.

Incidentally the cyclops feels less and less useful. The scattering of shallows around the map means it's hard to ever go from point A to point B with the cyclops, plus it's slow as fuck, and now it can be destroyed. I used to make the cyclops my home base (more or less) but since they added plant farming, aquariums, water purifiers, and so on, I've rarely ever used my cyclops. Hell it's more an escort for the slow-ass prawn suit than anything, at this point, or for transporting goods between bases.

Also this last playthrough is the first time I built multiple bases and I'm glad I did. I wonder what everyone's favorite spots are. I have to assume the underwater islands with their thermal vents are popular for infinite power.

God I wish you could build your own teleporters.

>>187961737
The lost river is a surprisingly difficult to navigate biome, and there's not one but two such bases there, but one is basically empty and pointless (and needs the orange artifact to access). The bigger, more important one was easier for me to find, because the path leading to it is pretty obviously marked by alien pillars. Just keep looking around and you'll find it.

>I was going to have a drink with Vivian
>and they killed her just like Bogdan, at least without my help this time
How do they even keep their staff in JKK?

>>187962124
You're kidding me.

I've been there twice, brought the cyclops once and I only ever found the one that requires the orange thing, has some nifty but useless scan objects, an ion crystal and a data dump? and never seen the other. Never even noticed alien pillars outside of that.

>>187961862
Well, what are you waiting for? You know you want to tell it.

>>187961947
Is it possible to wander off the edge of the map while looking for where you're supposed to be?

>>187962257
They keep their staff, but what use is keeping industrial spies on board?

>>187962375
Yeah, it's a story link that brings you to the next big point of interest on the way to the endgame (I think it straight up gives you a coordinate location to track, even). The whole area even leads on to an even deeper, more dangerous biome. If you start seeing lava you've gone too far down and missed the base, but remember the location anyway.
Basically just keep heading deeper and deeper, look for paths down that lead to greater depths. There'll be a big, broad cavern full of little mesas, and off to one side, near the northern edge, you'll see a humongous 'tree'. Face the tree from the cavern and turn around -- just search along the opposite wall and when you find what you're looking for, you'll know. Pretty hard to miss it. They'll be marking a path that leads deeper in, towards the base.

Because they're cheap I kinda recommend bringing a handful of beacons, especially to this biome and its various POIs and entrances/exits. I found the place by fucking chance -- I'm actually not sure how you're SUPPOSED to find the lost river in the first place, and with as big as the ocean is and as rare as the entrances are, it seems like something you could just miss completely on a playthrough and never know.

>>187962812
>Is it possible to wander off the edge of the map while looking for where you're supposed to be?
It's pretty easy to tell if you have because the ground drops away FAST into an endless abyss, everything will go this really stark blue/black color, and if you use it, the F1/debug screen will say your current biome is "VOID". Also leviathans start appearing everywhere.
It's fairly easy to avoid, honestly.

>>187963005
Is it all over near the floating island? I've been trying search about 1km sw of the Installation, like the datalog says, but I can't get down to 600 ft much less 800. Except for that Void part...

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>>187963532
>stealing sprites

>>187963320
What, the Lost River? It's near-ish there, yes. You don't want the Grand Reef, though -- I think there IS an entrance in the Grand Reef but it's harder to find and you're more likely to get doubled back into the caverns where the Degasi Seabase is instead.
I'd instead recommend checking the Blood Kelp zones, both of which (I believe) have an entrance. Drop down into one in a prawn suit and stomp around looking for every opportunity to get lower. It won't be long before you find long falls leading to much deeper segments -- sometimes 100-200 meter falls at a time. Bring a beacon so you can mark the entrance when you finally find it. Hit the sparse reef and go NW, that's how I found it.
I got lucky because I built a seabase right at the western edge of the sparse reef, a stone's throw from the border between the dunes, blood kelp zone, grand reef, and floating island. I chose the spot because it was fairly flat and close to many other biomes, ended up building almost right on top of the path to the entrance and even closer to a secret stash.

I feel like a decent map is one of the major things missing from Subnautica. The ocean is fucking huge and it's so easy to miss various points of interest, but even more than that, having a basic spatial understanding of where the biomes all are goes a long way. Even a glimpse at the completely unlabeled biome map on the wiki changed my whole playthrough.

And again I'm not even sure how you're supposed to find the Lost River. The two islands I found find because the game gives you a beacon location right on them but how the fuck am I supposed to find this major plot-vital location, just stumble on it randomly?

>>187963975
My main complain with Subnautica (other than the fact that it's spooky as fuck) is the lack of current and wind. Reallistically speaking, I doubt you would be able to hear anything on the island because there are no mountains or trees to stop the wind, it should blow non stop.

Crag Fields are the worst biome. I didn't even fucking know it existed until I'd already "beaten" the game. It's full of resources (apparently it has every major mineral??) but it's so fucking far out of the way why would anyone ever go there

>>187963798
shit. I could find the degasi base, I could find the lost river and a few big skulls (and one a. base) But that's it. Are the teleporters worth hunting down, powering, and going through?

>>187964191
I think some weather mechanics would make it comfy as fuck, but unfortunately only matter when you were surfaced.

>>187962696
it was really weird
>dream start with me and some bros fishing on that river in front of the hanging rat
>we joke around while drinking some cold mushroom brew
>bro 1 manages to catch something big and asks for help
>me and bro 2 help him out
>turns out he managed to hook a crate full of super steel sheets
>everyone thinking that we are all fucking rich now
>some weird drugged up dude comes out of nowhere and kill us all in a fraction of seconds
>wake up

>>187964293
Even underwater, there's weather. Plus adding currents would make it interesting to build your base in a valley rather than near the surface.
Imagine being in your base, sitting on a bench, watching fishes being dragged away by the current while you're safe in your comfy house.

>>187964293
>Are the teleporters worth hunting down, powering, and going through?
They're worth powering up at least. Most of the connections I never cared about because they feel so crippled. Like yeah, a teleport between the two islands is great, but the teleporter is ON LAND so you can't take the seamoth through it, and it's in a small cavern so you can't fit the prawn suit out anyway, so what's the point? Like what do they expect me to do with some of these, just swim in the open ocean?

>a few big skulls
You were on the right track. Keep following the path onward, keep looking for paths down, and you'll pass by more remains, ribcages, etc. I want to say NE is the main direction you'll be going? Follow the eastern wall and you'll definitely find it, that'll open up the rest of the story.

This is my other big gripe about Subnautica: whether you're exploring the Aurora, looking around the Jelly Shroom caves, following the river, or just exploring the open ocean, there's no way to know "okay, I got everything from this location". And if you miss just one thing you'll probably never think to come back (I sure as fuck would never go back to the Aurora thinking I'd overlooked anything), and as a result you could miss a whole fucking plot point and never know it. You could explore a biome to completion and think "okay done here forever" and not realize you overlooked the one small cave opening that led on to the entire rest of the game.

>>187964191
>My main complain with Subnautica (other than the fact that it's spooky as fuck)
I've never seen a game that's both so spooky AND so comfy at the same time.
Like exploring the caves and the depths, or even just swimming along, looking down, and not being able to see the fucking bottom -- that's terrifying. But then you sit on a cozy bench in your little decorated seabase and look out a window at all the fish and the flora and the little growbed you planted with rare plants and it's so fucking comfy I actually kinda wish I was there.

>>187964880
>Like exploring the caves and the depths, or even just swimming along, looking down, and not being able to see the fucking bottom -- that's terrifying. But then you sit on a cozy bench in your little decorated seabase and look out a window at all the fish and the flora and the little growbed you planted with rare plants and it's so fucking comfy I actually kinda wish I was there.
Mah submariner.

>>187964880
>I've never seen a game that's both so spooky AND so comfy at the same time.
Maybe the Long Dark? It's pretty stressful since you always need food and wood, but when you're sitting by the fire and hearing the wind blowing, it's pretty comfy.

But I admit that Subnautica made me realizes how much I love growing plants in my games.

>>187964880
>>187964938
The cyclops is also comfy as fuck. Even with the lights off.
Making a really hostile, dangerous, scary (but beautiful) world and then giving you a safe, reliable shelter in it is a good fucking recipe.

>>187965070
Indeed. I would enjoy Don't Starve a lot more if I could build a permanent base.

>finish darkwood before full clearing the swamp
>tfw epilogue tells me how the story ended for people I never met
Oops. At least I have an excuse for another playthrough that isn't just to see multiple endings. How many endings are there anyways? I got the radio tower ending.

>>187964415
That actually sounds like just a regular day at Hanging Rat. Fun though.

Last time I had a dream about Underrail it was all about mutants and game mechanics.

>>187962856
Honestly I doubt that she was really a spy. Her dad denounced her and refused her help, so there's no reason for he to pursue more money, JKK pays good money already.
>>187964415
Are you got IN MOTION?

>>187965323
>How many endings are there anyways?
Only two, true and false.

>I got the radio tower ending
Doesn't change the main ending. Beating the dream an the Radio Tower simply allows you to spare the Talking Tree and explore a little before getting to the road.

>>187965762
Oh. Well I'm still going to give it another go to meet the people I missed and fuck up that tree.

>>187963005
>I'm actually not sure how you're SUPPOSED to find th
If you're poking around the degasi base, the final audiolog (dropped just off the foundation) is of Paul Degasi and he mentions 'thinking he saw lights below' with his final breaths.

Which is retarded, since your'e surrounded by bioluminescent jellybeans that generate light way off into the darkness below and above, but I interpreted as a sound suggestion to "go down, my son"

Holy fuck hahahaha torchlight 2 dev are such hacks.I didn't expected that.They literally i mean literally makes you play same final stage two times .They didn't even bother fucking hell.After nearly 2 days of marathon i finished it.My first ARPG.If we ignore last stage it was a fine game desu.

>>187969159
What are you talking about? Care to give more details?

>>187969159
The resistance system in Torchlight 2 makes me absolutely livid because of how poorly thought out it is.

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>>187969159
Ugggh I always forget to upload image

>>187969338
Oh damn it. I remember someone being very loud about the resistance system, but I can't remember how exactly it's bad, despite the guy nicely explaining. I should reinstall it and finish it for good.
Along Titan Quest, Akaneiro, OFF, Diablo 2...

i just realized that i've completely forgotten the name of the ruskie torrent site i used like twice ever

>>187969494
That was me. Torchlight 2's resistance system is stupid because it is additive instead of percent-based. This means that HP is ALWAYS better than resistances. 100 lightning resist basically means you have 100 more effective HP against attacks that deal lightning damage while 100 HP means that you have 100 more effective HP against everything.

>>187969495
Still looking for that Underrail torrent?

>>187969336
After defeating boss[two boss exactly with same health and same action & powers]] they make you play same final stage[They didn't even bother to place minions and doors randomly they will be exactly same as before]and you've to beat same two boss again.The only difference will be that your character will have more level.That's it

>>187964737
Some kind of automapping (hah, with a 3d game like this?) or at least a world map with labeled regions would be real nice.

Also;
>get to disease research facility
>stage 4 carar
>realize I'm at 850/900 depth on my PRAWN and the thermal facility is another 600 below me
>and my cyclops is at 12% battery
fuuuuck

>>187969790
Yeah, that. I remember now.
I keep forgetting because it's inintuitive as hell.

>>187969871
i mean i wasn't the guy earlier in the thread, i was a guy looking for the same thing several threads back
the comments just reminded me that that site exists and that i actually registered an account on it for
probably porn? it was a while ago

>>187969947
>[two boss exactly with same health and same action & powers]]
Ugh i mean they are same while playing another time the two boss are different themselves with different powers.My fucked up English desu

>>187967751
>Which is retarded, since your'e surrounded by bioluminescent jellybeans that generate light way off into the darkness below and above, but I interpreted as a sound suggestion to "go down, my son"
I did, and even found the shroom caves, explored a bunch, and just never happened upon the seabase. I figured I'd gone through the whole cave, but nope. Turns out I just overlooked it. Thought the note was suggesting the caves exist, never realized I'd missed a major element.

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does anyone still play this or am i on my own island

>>187971208
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>187971208
Reminds me of Mercenary Kings.

>Stuck at 800 meters in hellish lost river with 1 (one) prawn (60% power) and 1 (one) cyclops w/ fabricator (0% power)
My options are either to: Take the prawn, climb as high as I can, hope I can use the seaglide to just flee straight up, come back with charged energy cells in the seamoth, swim down with seaglide, try and refuel Cyclops

or

take power cell from prawn (abandon prawn) place into cyclops; use power to craft batteries from various equipment into powercells (fully charged) refuel cyclops, get the fuck out and come back with upgrades to hopefully reclaim my prawn.

Either way I'm getting the fucking grappling arm next.

>>187971551
can't you dock the prawn in the cyclops and then extract the power cell

>>187971551
Oh, wait, no silicone rubber, rip dreams. Trying to walk away then.

>>187971551
>>187971632
also yeah the grappling arm is godlike. not only for just getting up when it's a pain to do with only the jump jets, but also for spidermanning your way across the ocean floor

>>187971632
Bay doors don't open without power.

>>187971848
oh, rip

>>187971437
it was almost kinda mainstream at one point but then it fell flat after jew dev team ran with the money, the owner of the company is the only guy who keeps the servers up now b/c not a faggot

>>187972165
That sounds like a really, really sad story.

>>187971551
Making progress on The Great Escape. Had to slap the juvenile ghost leviathan around a bit to get out.

Wait, shit, I guess this is full of spoilers, no picture then.

>>187972305
>implying anything involving vidya is sad

Since we're talking about ARPG, I really like Victor Vran. The story is meh and it's difficult to get immersed in the game when you meet skeletons going the gangnam style, but I like the system.

>>187972435
Well, I have some really good memories of playing games as a kid. Even if 80% of the time I had no idea what was going on.

I remember when I discovered save scumming when playing Dune, I was really happy.

>>187969494
>Along Titan Quest, Akaneiro, OFF, Diablo 2...
I forgot Grim Dawn, Nethack and Dragon's Dogma.

Especially Grim Dawn, I must be close to the end by now.

>>187970061
How the hell did your cyclops get so low?
Just get in your prawn and jump outta that place, bring some cells with you and recharge.
Or hell, build a tiny charging base down there near the lava vents.

>>187971551
60% power is more than enough to just walk/boost out to the open ocean. Come back with proper mods.

The gods blessed me with a duplicate single-shot shotgun in Darkwood. Should I sell it or might it come in handy later?

>>187974110
That's the reusable one, right?
I don't know why you'd need to hold onto it, so sell it I guess.

>>187973397
IDK. I think maybe the dooks have an EMP ability that drains battery, but I'm guessing.

>>187973513
Where do I get the components for all that high-tier shit? I haven't even seen half the ingredients (though at least now I have nickle ore from LR)

>>187974254
>Where do I get the components for all that high-tier shit? I haven't even seen half the ingredients (though at least now I have nickle ore from LR)
The high level depth shit just needs plasteel, right? What exactly are you missing?

>>187969159
I recommend Titan Quest. It's from old times but got a remake to make it run on modern systems and it is what got me into the genre.

>>187974357
Polyaniline, Kyanite, etc?

Damn, there are oddities in gauntlet. Do I really have to be fast or can explore freely? Don't want to miss the only source of xp here.

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This is the worst lazy developer spoiler I can remember. Just before the characters were talking about how the door would not be movable at all with everyones combined strenght but walking close shows me that it has a next map trigger. And of course the map shows me an from here unreachable area with 2 chests too. Granted, chests I only see on the map because of an equip but still.
And this is with the game normally stopping you from walking further in paths because it is outside of your study area or you have to talk to some people before.

>>187974632
Kyanite can only be found as large deposits in the biome even past the one you were in, so you'll need to bring a depth-ready prawn with a drill.
Polyaniline is just hydrochloric acid with gold. For the acid, you need Deep Shrooms. You can find them all over the place at lower depths, mostly in blood kelp zones.

Incidentally this is just personal preference but I don't recommend bringing the cyclops at all next time you go in there. On top of all the other problems, there are little lava larvae that will latch onto your vehicles and start draining them of energy.

>>187974727
>Do I really have to be fast
Yes.

>Don't want to miss the only source of xp here.
None of the oddities found in the Gauntlet are exclusive to it.

>>187975163
I explored pretty much majority of core city and still can't find some of those numerous oddities.

>>187975556
The only 2 semi-unique oddires found in the Gauntlet I can think of are Insect Repellent and Cyberetic Module.

Repellent is found in the sewer caves (part of the JKK questline, for other oligarchs the door opens when you finish the warehouse quest).

Cyberetic Module can be found during the last oligarch quest, regardless of which one you joined.

>>187976375
It seems I can explore these first rooms freely, but at the final one you have to be fast.
I was talking about instances of regular oddities, I found tenth core city plans for example.

>see this thread
>decides to replay Grim Dawn
>find my old save
>have no idea what the spells are
>or what I'm supposed to do
>or why I'm not wearing that armor in my smuggler stash

>>187976845
And fifth rat head amulet.

>>187976845
>It seems I can explore these first rooms freely, but at the final one you have to be fast.
No, the timer starts as soon as you enter the Gauntlet. It's possible to be zapped before you even reach the final room if you are really slow.

>I found tenth core city plans for example
Found in Talloski Manor.

>>187976996
> rat head amulet
Found during one of the oligarch quests.

>>187977358
>It's possible to be zapped before you even reach the final room if you are really slow.
Wow. I just spotted other guys in the end for the first time, it seems they had all the keys.
I'm missing 3 more "arena now" schedule, I managed to pickpocket only one from a guy in dropzone.
If these are not random, it's strange that there's no map with all of them.

>>187978005
>I'm missing 3 more "arena now" schedule
Plenty can be found around Upper Underrail.

>If these are not random, it's strange that there's no map with all of them.
I guess no one wanted to bother with making a comprehensive list. I actually wanted to add oddity locations on the wiki but then I realized how much work it would take. Maybe in the future.

>>187978992
>Plenty can be found around Upper Underrail.
Okay, thanks, I haven't explored it yet.
> I actually wanted to add oddity locations on the wiki but then I realized how much work it would take
Please do for some rare ones like loaded dice. If you have time to spare, of course.

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>>187935598
>the ending is a huge "fuck you" to games like Space Funeral

Then why make a game like Space Funeral?

>let's crime it up!
What the hell lol

(I'm not going to load just to get a screen shot, fu)

>>187979736
satire, I would imagine

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>>187980872

>>187979736
Because he wanted to show the same thing could be done much better, but they're lazy sacks of shit?

ys seven is fun as FUCK

who getting ys viii here

>>187981640
I need to play the series from the beginning first.
>supporting sony
>ever
kys cancer

any reason to go into chapter 2? the mobs that literally teleport into your hideout make the only good part of the game (hiding and hoping you don't get discovered at night) pointless

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Well, it's pretty obvious who the last player is.

The team has a wiki page now. It's a work in progress and player positions are not final.
https://implyingrigged.info/wiki//indie/
I'd like ideas on a team motto and nickname.

/indie/ will play /agdg/ on the 16th of September at 20:30 GMT (4:30 pm EST).

>>187982423
You clearly hear them coming at least few seconds before they actually appear next to you, they are completly haramless and defensless a few seconds after digging out and take only 3 pistol shots to kill. I don't see what the problem is.

>>187982852
>I don't see what the problem i
they make a core aspect of the game, barricading and moving furniture pointless?

>>187982954
Same could be said about any enemy capable of destroying barricades and events that can happen inside your room.

Barricades still protect you from savages, huge dogs, human spiders, chompers and banshees, all of which can spawn during nights at hideout 4. Sounds to me like you simply can't adapt to a new enemy type.

Okay, I have been playing Darkwood for a few hours, the free version the devs let out.

If I purchase the game, will I be able to continue my save?

>tfw too retarded to fight chompers in melee
How do I git gud?
Do dream sequence deaths count against you in hard?

>>187982625
>rng dungeon for DD
>not APEX

>>187983758
If you put them in the right save folder I think so, yes.

>>187984092
Sideways dodging is the god strat but it's annoying as fuck to do because your character has myopia or some shit and has a <90 degree field of vision even though humans have over 210 degrees by default, if you include periphery

>>187981640
>sony
>not getting it on pc

???

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Is it just me, or does this look like a nice map?

>>187985736
I need rimworld mods but I don't know what i want

>>187985926
Sorry m8. I haven't played rimworld

>>187986136
Good thing I didn't mean to quote you then :^)

>>187985736
That's the map I had in my second playthrough. It is an nice map because the hideout is never far away

>>187981358
cute

>>187986452
>tfw it's also my second playthough
I thought the maps were supposed to be random?

>>187986750
I'm sure the minor locations will be different for you, but stuff like the Hideouts, wedding, village entrance should be the same

>>187935598
If you're going to advertise your fucking game, please leave a link so I can play it, asshole.

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Gross.

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Fucking tribe

>>187988606
What the fuck is going on here?

>>187988718
Insect farm, was working until these tribal assholes showed up.

>>187988606
What's up with Rimworld? Is it like Dwarf Fortress for casuals?

Any tips for night survival in dark wood?

>>187989283
Find the safest room in your hideout, bring a weapon, put your back against the wall and pray. If you have scrap to spare, blocking weak points with bear traps works well. This is good enough for the first two hideouts. Nothing worse than a savage with a stick will probably find you, anyway, and they can be taken down easily enough if you play keepaway.
The light is your friend.

>>187989449
Okay cool, thanks. question: if my generator is turned on, but no lights are on, does it still consume gas? And does having one light on consume the same amount of gas as all of them?

Also, are some things attracted to light? Should I always have them all on

>>187935598
Pretentious is an adjective that better describes the people who surround weird and offbeat works of media, not the works themselves.

Granted, the level of fan pretentiousness does vary from game to game. I can see why some people might think OFF is a pretentious game because there plot is essentially buried under very obtuse dialogue. That said, OFF on its own merits is still delightful and has a cool soundtrack.

>>187988606
The lifted Prison Architect style bothers me to no end.

>>187989630
Yeah. In my experience, I believe the generator consumes the same amount of gas as long as it's on. Nothing else matters. If you're trying to save gas, just wait longer to turn it on, but you're saving slivers and playing a dangerous game.
Honestly gas cans are really common and can be bought infinitely from traders for pretty cheap, so I wouldn't sweat it. If you grab every gas can you find (and take the inventory size upgrades early) you'll be just fine -- I had like 6 or more in storage and was frequently selling spares. Nails and boards are likewise all over the place and I've sold whole stacks, plus they're dirt cheap to buy. You'll eventually be rolling in reputation anyway (even if you don't obsessively sell all your extra goods and haul back all the junk for salvage, like I do) so again, I doubt you'll ever run out of gas, even in the early game.

Always leave lights on, but stay away from open windows if you can help it because enemies can peer in, see you, and go on the chase. Sitting in a corner is usually safest for this reason. Always stay watchful.
It can help to drag furniture, I especially found repositioning lamps was useful to help cast light into multiple rooms.

>darkwood
>hiding out during the night
>notice a weird thing pop up on the ground nearby
>walk over
>pick up "?"
>huh, alright
>go back to my corner
>turn around
>there's now a banshee standing right on the weird nest
>it does a quiet shriek and disappears
holy shit that spooped the shit out of me

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Been a while. A friend asked me to draw Fish.

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>the fucking baby banshee nest around the radio tower
jesus h christ that was the most tense shit I've played all week

I think I fucking suck at Rimworld
if its not everyone starving to death because my crops have not finished growing its everyone dieing of a heatwave or letting all the meat rot because they spent all day staring at clouds instead of finishing the fucking electronic shit

>>187994441
Learn to manual priorities+Work scheduling
Its not even hard, just manually force them to do things if you need it right away

What do lights being on/off in darkwood actually do aside from keeping ghosts away

>>187996794
That's basically it. Visibility + ghost protection.

>>187998074
>tfw I learned this lesson one night when I accidentally all my gas and had to keep the ghosties away with a lantern
After that night I stopped stressing over whether or not I had gas if I had a lantern in decent condition.

Regarding Darkwood, are hard and nightmare difficulties memes? Is it just for muh epeen? Do I even get an achievement or something out of the ordeal?

>>187999203
Gas is really not that hard to come by.

>>187999757
I dunno about achievements but they're really not fun; I feel the game is more than exciting/punishing enough with death mechanics as it is.

>>187999925
>Gas is really not that hard to come by.
I know, but the night in question was iirc my 2nd night at the swamp and I forgot to turn the generator off in the morning. I had just dumped the only other gas tank I had scavenged into the saw for some barricades when I realized my mistake. I never had any other problems, but it was always nice to know I had a safety net in case I fucked up again.
Will bike man come to the swamp?

>>188000436
He will not. Sorry bro. Only what you can carry, this time.
I wonder if there's a definitive list of best supplies, but I guess just "ammo" would probably top it.

>>187902280
I'm going to have to rework a few because I forgot to take transparency into account

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>>188000772
Oh well
>tfw I didn't think to bring my empty shotgun and had to scavenge/buy the materials all over again

>>187935598
I tried this game (PARMINGULATOR) and I think that it's critical of Space Funeral more as a vehicle to insult its fans rather than to really insult the game or the game's creator. It's very possible to criticize something you like. I actually really like Earthbound, but I think that games inspired by it have exceeded it in terms of engagement and artistry.

You can love something and recognize that it isn't perfect, and it's actually really fun to pick at it a little bit to fuck with obsessive fans.

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Starship Theory has a flawed progression system.

The ships you encounter are limited by your "mass", ie. how many tiles your ship occupies. It is extremely easy to build a ship that wrecks everything in its mass class. Once you've done that a few times, it feels lame to keep expanding your ship just to get challenging enemies again.

It's also silly how engines are completely useless on shieldtanked ships. Engines do nothing except increase evasion and the shield bubble always gets hit with no chance to evade.

>>188004673
So basically just build dense and you win?

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>>187694419
Sorry, I've been offline. Had something come up in the family.

If you still want a suggestion, these could work

>Hit the Birds
>Children of Vurrus
>Willy Milly

>>188004896
It feels more like you need to keep adding huge empty rooms to get into fun fights. There's a short difficulty spike whenever you have expanded your ship's hull considerably but haven't yet made use of the space.

>>187988953
Yes. And it doesn't make your eyes bleed.

>>187999925
>I feel the game is more than exciting/punishing enough with death mechanics as it is.
Death on normal is not punishing at all, it's actually optimal to die instead of fighting during the day to save resources. It might be even optimal to die during an esoecially busy night if the saved resources outweight the lost reputation gain.

That's why normal sucks, death is way too easy to abuse. Hard is the best difficulty, still allows the player to make mistakes but also prevents abuse and forces the player to survive.

>>188008610
>it's actually optimal to die instead of fighting during the day to save resources
what
maybe if you're right at your home base?

>>188008918
No, it's always optimal during the day.

Why would you waste healing items, weapon durabilty and ammo if you can just fucking die, wake up with full HP and get your gear back in a matter of seconds like nothing happened?

>>188009110
Because it's fun to actually try and survive in a survival horror game and I don't need a limited number of lives to actually try and play the game because I'm not autistic?

If you're not even going to try and fight back during the day then what's the point of even picking any non-required items up? Just die during the night to save time and rush every story objective. Now that I'm thinking about it, I don't believe you even need a weapon to complete the story.
I don't think anything is stopping you from rushing the whole game by immediately zipping to silent forest, grabbing the key from the well, rushing old woods, have wolfman take you to the house, go to the train, enter the tunnel, rush radio tower, and leave. desu I'm probably forgetting a step somewhere, but you could probably complete the game in 3-4 days or less if you evaded enemies well.

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>>187988953
Yeah. And it's actually pleasing on the eyes.

>>188013057
>name-calling
Sorry mate, but he won and you lost.

>>188009110
Because it'll only take a matter of seconds if you die right outside your hideout?
Because time like entertainment is an investment in this game?
Because repairing weapons is dirt cheap?
Because resource management is a fun part of the game?

>>188015519
DASGC.png

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>>188004930
>If you still want a suggestion, these could work
If we can agree on a player to switch out, sure. Any suggestions on who?

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>>188016915
Fate has a nice ass.

>>187992107
>fire went out
The literal state of Nuclear Throne.

>>188017517
There's no fire in Nuclear Throne.