/asg/ - Absolver General

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Reposting this from the /v/ thread before it dies.

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>>187812061
What do we name the /asg/ school?

>http://www.strawpoll.me/13828823
>http://www.strawpoll.me/13828823

>somewhat enjoy the game
>runs badly at times because of poverty PC even on all low

man i was having fun, wish steams refund policy was longer than two hours so i can experience the end game pvp

though i think the game not running at 60FPS constantly would be a huge issue

First for Stagger is the better Windfall

>>187812385
ip man is best
fight me

>>187812526
What's the style?

>>187812719
but with a crappy sidestep

man i hate that forced jab

frankly all the forced jabs are terrible and you cant even combo off of them which defeats the entire purpose of a mechanic like this

>>187812826
Khalt
Can school styles be switched?

>>187812891
No idea, I'm only level 11

>>187812891
You can unlock all school styles on one character so yeah

>grinding for a move
>only does it once every minute
>dodge slightly too early and it doesn't count
>dodge at the last second and it tracks
wew this sure is epic

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>2-0 the guy
>suddenly he's lagging like a russian on a brazilian server
>it lags so much that i literally can't move despite mashing every direction
>he kills me 3 times like this

Welp.

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What is this a leaderboard of

>>187812385
>Khalt ability gives stamina to get out of sticky situations.
>Stagger the stagger deck to throw off Forsaken nerds.
No better feeling.

>>187813398
Presumably it tracks who has been getting the most XP from duel wins using the school deck.

I can make a khalt school but should I? Can you make a school and join a school at the same time?

Yall newfriends calling kahlt bad are forgetting that the global #1, aka bestpleb, is kahlt

I cant spell but the truth stands

Forsaken is OP.
Khalt is like a shitter version of Forsaken.
Windfall is trash.
Stagger is the noob killer.

>>187812827
my man i am about to blow your fucking dick off:
ready?

You can feint the stagger jabs but still get the dodge

>>187814591
>Khalt is a shitter version of Forsaken.
Forsaken parries pretty much only lead into you getting hit if you yourself fuck up.

>>187814591
>Forsaken
Whiffs parry and gets punished
>Khalt
ABSORB ABSORB ABSORB ABSORB

how do I actually get stagger?
I beat jinn and talked to the guy behind the door, joined his school, but I did not get the fighting style

>>187815056
Check your fighing decks.
The school gets you a blue deck which contains a fixed moveset.

>>187814812
>>187814591
Lmao nigga like how is Khalt even real just spam light punches nigga hahahahahhahahaa

>>187815108
but I want to use my own deck together with stagger defense

>>187815156
*Dodges to the left*
Nothin personell, kid.
On another note, that's also how you avoid most forsaken parries.

>>187815176
Then you need to learn it by blocking Jinn for half an hour.

>>187813398
Isn't bondage demon that streamer voxelheart?

>>187814591

You know, all you've done in these generals is bitch about Forsaken. Spend that time learning how to fight it.

>>187815285
i learned a lot of his attacks, but how would you even learn a defense?

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>>187815603
NO!

Fuck you and every forsaken player.
Add in staggerfags too, god they are annoying.

>>187815618
Wait, what exactly do you mean with stagger defense then?

>>187815642
Git gud.

>>187815618
spend more than 3 seconds looking at your menus you idiot holy shit

>>187815825
I have, which is why I am asking. In the combat styles tab of the menu I still only have windfall listed

>>187816051
If you're in the correct school, stagger should appear in blue. If it doesn't, try joining a different school then going back to the npc one?

>>187812526
So the school should be Miss Evergreen's School for Challenged Prospects?

What if it doesnt fit?

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>>187816113
here it lists the reward i should have got.
I equipped the deck, which is blue

but...

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>>187816356
combat styles doesnt list stagger

>>187816465
nvm found it, you have to press enter to change it.

Fucking retarded UI

>>187816465
You have to actually select it.

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>>187816326
>>187812526
>You can't name the school

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Did my lost prospect mask change its look or does it just feel that way because of the light?

>>187816609
something was retarded here yeah, not so sure it was the UI

>>187817024
I wasn't the only one who didn't get judging by steam forums.

Sorry pal, but it's not my fault, the UI is actually unintuitive.

t. developer

>>187817406
>weapons work this way
>abilities work this way
Nah m8. Just because your not the only one whos retarded doesn't mean your fully functioning

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>people who do this shit

Why even bother playing if you're not gonna even make an attempt.

If I leave the NPC stagger school do I get to keep the style?

>>187817591
Wait... I think joining the school fucked up my character. When I switch the combat school back to Kahlt my health is still gimped.

Before I joined I had 2k~health. When I leveled vit it went up by 1 or 2 points. Now when I level it up Im getting 10's

My health doesnt revert even after switching styles... am I fucked?

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>>187816679
well, nevermind that. How can I join you, master?

>>187817792
>2k health
jesus fucking christ, i barely have 900
no wonder i always feel like im doing less damage

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>>187817974
Well you see young acolyte

I've got no clue
Also region lock

>tfw can't PvP until I get home
>tfw will spend hours losing over and over because windfall masterrace

>>187818532
so we'll need more than one school.

I'm not ready to be the eruo-teacher.

>>187819314
>Windfall and Staggerfags always falling before the haymaker

Windfails cant even dodge using the dodge style in this game lmao

>>187818013
>2000 health

Erm, i think he might just have remembered his actual health wrong, 2000 seems excessive and i also play Kahlt, im only sitting at like 1200-1300

>>187814649
Shit really? Stagger style for life!

>>187814649
How about let me sidestep and lay into someone instead of forcing a shitty gimmick jab into an otherwise neat ability

>>187818532
>>187819352
Next patch they were planning on removing region lock.

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>>187819696

>been farming Jinn for 3 hours straight and not a single drop from him

I didn't buy this game for this fucking nonsense.

>finally get parry and strike from those assholes at the harbor after having so many damn people kill off the guys I'm blocking to learn it
>just as I get it a forsaken decides to jump me while I'm at half health
>I beat him down to half and he pulls out a sword
>in two punches I knock it out of his hand, pick it up, and finish him off with it

Get the hell out of here you parrying little shit.

>>187812061
you included the map twice, ya dingus

>>187820760
Are the parry and strike moves worth using? As of right now they seem kind of lack luster but I was thinking I should put them at the beginning of one of my chains. Though I'm not sure it would be worth shuffling my deck around for them.

>>187819314
>windfaggot master race
>an entire race that doesn't know how to dodge wide arc attacks.

windfaggots don't understand how to back off, and they can't handle the pressure of an in-fighter.

>>187821097
Its shit like this

Many people here would say Kahlt is the worst on paper but the fact is that it is a style that can accommodate aggressive play with it having the highest base stamina and all, and it is hard to keep up against someone out for blood

>>187820240
im like 90% sure you don't get drops from the marked ones. But their armor does drop in pvp

so the stagger school gives you two things off the bat:
1)The stagger style, which is some kind of dodge+attack version of windfall
2)A pre-made stagger combo deck.

How does one unlock the individual stagger cards? Do I have to fight someone who has the style?

>>187821298

No, they do drop. 2 friends of mine has grinded and gotten the drops they wanted from the marked ones. They drop every piece of their armor, too.

They just have a ridiculously low drop rate on everything.

>>187821328
Farm jinn or fight stagger fags to get the moves.

>>187821418
thanks.

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Anyone know where or how to get this armor?

>>187821546
I just fought that guy in the oration quarter.

>>187821546
Pants and facemask are cairns/pots, but I can't remember exactly where. Maybe in Oratian quarter or the Forgotten swamp. I think the shoulders and elbows are the metal set, which drops from NPCs everywhere

Is it cheap to wear the heaviest armor and play khalt? I sacrificed my mobility. So it's not like I am cheating right?

>>187822048
Tilt R to win isn't cheating, no.

>>187822048
you are becoming one with the brawler, anon.

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how's this game? since it's a new fighting system, is pvp totally fucked like for honor?

>>187821328
Whats funny is if you and a friend use the prebaked Stagger deck you can learn the moves from it for yourself by hitting/dodging each other

>>187822048
I personally try to keep my speed juuuust barely on Normal because there are many sweeping attacks you cant dodge far enough to avoid if you're Slow

>>187822236
It might be the honeymoon phase but its pretty incredible. Unlike for honor you can actually initiate

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Been trying a super kick-focused deck. It's pretty fun, people trying to dodge sideways and deepthroating a heel is always fun to see.

>>187822236
Not at all, way more balanced and skill based imo, very few crutch things you can do besides stuff like force blasting people off an edge and a couple EZbait heavy attacks (literally 2 or 3) and stuff

>>187822236
No. For Honor was broken in its core gameplay, and you could experience the entire game after an hour.

Absolver's core gameplay allows for pretty much any type of playstyle to flourish, and is way more in-depth than it seems at first. I probably had 300-400 hours in FH, and Absolver so much more fun. Fighting feels like you actually outmatched your opponent instead of them just fucking up

>>187822478
Kicks seem to have more area variety and versatility

I cant think of a single lowblow or crouching punch type punch

Its all just elbows, hooks and straight punches/jabs which all function the same but are slow/strong, med/med, fast/weak respectively

>>187822427
>>187822479
>>187822652

sold, there's clan or something? how's the pvp?

>>187822683

They do, at the cost of being slower. Someone who is really good at mashing them light punches will usually obliterate you because none of your kicks can come out fast enough, and his punch is fast enough to recover that he can also dodge your kick.

But if they aren't only based around fast punches, you're taking them to pound town.

>>187822710
You can join "schools" which are like clans but you can learn other players's (namely the mentor) moves and style

PvP is obviously great since the game is built around it

Like any online game, it does of course, help to have good connection, so expect a fight with a rich BR (with their signature dial-up) to be.. odd

Currently there is only 1v1, but 2v2 and 3v3 will be added soon ish, as well as crossplay with ps4 (if they, in layman's terms, can get it working)

They also plan to add more weapons, styles and moves

I see there are stats to alocate, can I reset at will later?

what was that tiny update

I got into the Stagger school, how do I unlock the moves now? The style unlocks slowly by using the dodge it seems like but not the skills.

>>187823463
Perhaps a tiny fix.

Is the white tunic a drop, preorder bonus, or can be found somewhere?

>>187823387
No, not as far as i can tell, but all the stats suffer massive diminishing returns after 20, and you get a butt ton of points at max level (max level is 60 i think) so what it basically comes down to at max level is what stats do you want slightly more of

>>187823550
what should I focus on for stagger? seems fun

>>187823547
The orate priest clothes and labyrinth prospect mask are all preorder i believe

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Who here absolutely unbeatable?
>Out of the last 10 matches i have lost 1 round
>Not even a game, just a single round

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i'm too low iq to build a combat deck
this is the worst

>>187815334
yes

>>187823681
I lost one match out of 6.

What are you using?

I hear you get gear from pvp, is it RNG? I've done a couple and the ones that I won I don't think I ever gotten anything besides some experience.

>>187823628
It uses a bit of STR and DEX (but mostly dex) along with the Mobility stat

Though i should say this, you can use any moves with any style, the only thing styles affect are what Ability uou have and your base stats will change a bit based on which ine you have equipped (Like, Kahlt Method for example will give you more max health, moreso than any other style)

>>187823815
Yes it seems to be RNG

BUT

Unique gear and masks can drop from it, though you can get common drops as well

>>187823734
I'm too low IQ to build a *good combat deck.

Maybe I should go grind enemies and get moves I haven't seen yet. I want more Windfall moves pls thanks

>>187812061
Anyone who wants in the school drop their steamid. I'll pick you up when I get home from work

>>187824136
Just wait a month and then copy combat decks from the inevitable pro absolver players/guides/youtubers/whatever

>>187824273
But I want to be a True Understander™ of Hand to Hand Combat

>>187824273
M8, the whole point of the game is to find your own Kung Fu.
He must find his own path.

>>187812061
I think rather than straight up stun you, i think Parry should inflict a mini slow and disable blocking for a short window

>>187824346
>>187824374

Bruhs most martial arts get passed on from student master exactly as is

Unless you're bruce lee, and invent a new one out of multiple ones, but last i checked you can only use 1 style at a time in this game

>>187823770
More like what i'm not using
>Armor

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>>187824136
i just want to build an all kick deck but it just cant work
everyone else is 2fast while im trying to get out my spin kicks

>>187824534
Even within a style you'll have your own way of doing things, There's three major boxing styles but each boxes finds their own way of mixing and matching what they are best at to make up for what they are weak against.

>>187824721
>tfw using both meanings of armor
>am like raging bull that cannot be stopped by naked dancing man

My fist knows of the 20 win streak, as of yesterday

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>>187824397
>tfw low on health and fighting a khalt
>Parry his move
>this is my chance
>ABSORB
>ABSORB
>ABSORB

anyone got an infinite combo yet?

>>187824798
What style are you? Parry might be best for that, letting you reset the momentum of the fight. fast attacks are usually very close in, your kicks should have the range advantage, so try to engage from further away, and play keep away if they try to get in on you.

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So, what are your strategies to escape pressure?

Do you have specific alternates or stances just for it?
Does all of your stances start with a quick attack?
Do you reliably find a flaw in the opponent's deck? If so, how?

>>187824918
just throw random fast shit together and no one will be able to do anything

>>187824920
Kahlt
i'll switch to Forsaken once i figure out where you can unlock it, thanks for the tips anon

>>187825002
absorb attack

>>187825123
what if he's spamming quicks nonstop?

>>187825040
You can get a kick deck working for Khalt too, but the style doesn't help much for making distance like windfall or making your own opening like parry.

The key thing is to work at making distance, and learning where your kicks will hit, but their punches won't. Try to incorporate a few low kicks and sweeps in that will dodge high attacks.

Does dash distance increase with mobility? Is dash even useful at all?

What exactly does mobility modify? Your stamina? The distance of a dodge?

>>187825040
I love Windfall to death but as soon as I unlock the Forsaken school I'm going dick deep into it. Where do you find these schools anyways? All I've found is Stagger.

>>187824918
>infinite combo

That doesnt work that way

Hitstun in this game does not exist in a way that you are guaranteed another hit, the only time you are guaranteed a hit in this game is if you break a guard

Also stamina is a thing, so yeah, you'd have to stop attacking eventually even if there were somehow an infinite combo

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>enemy wins twice with shockwave spam on ledges
>decide to never be close to any ledge
>he loses every fight because he doesn't actually know how to fight
>this ensues

It was incredibly satisfying planting a Nike in his temple at the end.

what to do against people with lot of lag? any way to change server?

>>187825223
Absorb>absorb>absorb>attack

Easy if you have decent timing and reflexes

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>>187812385
Just went and watched Drunken Master because of this picture.
Those credits scenes, jesus fucking christ Jackie Chan is based.
I can't imagine any other actor doing all their own stunts, including setting themselves on fire for the sake of film.
Man, I love that guy.

>>187825520
Two things mainly

There are 3 levels of encumberment related to Mobility which affects how fast your movespeed is and how far you dodge (does NOT affect the speed of your attacks or anything) Fast, Normal, and Slow, very comparable to Souls fast roll, normal roll and fat roll

Also many moves straight up get damage scaling off of your Mobility stat, depends on the move obviously

>happen upon another player and decide to fight him
>he's a Khalt
>not only that but he's also a fellow boxer deck user
>ABSORB
>ABSORB
>ABSORB
>ABSORB
>fifteen seconds of neither of us landing a hit
>eventually we both just bow and walk away

How Gentlemanly

>>187826008
Also stamina recovery, and of course the best moveset deck, which scales with mobility.

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>>187825601
lol that running, i wasn't expected that
he so deserved it

>>187825601
Great finish to that fight, anon.

I fought to guys earlier, one which was just there to try and shockwave people off a ledge while the other distracted them. When I didn't fall for their shit they just ran.

>>187825601
That outfit though. Looking fresh.

>>187812061
Is this game as empty and boring as it looks like?

Is there a real story?

Are there more PvP modes or is it just 1v1?

>>187826636
>Is this game as empty and boring as it looks like? Is there a real story
I rather like the lonely and run down sort of world, the style of the design really works for me. There are other players and of course npc's walking around for you to fight.

As for story, not so much, the single player experience is mostly just there for you to learn a bunch of moves to build your deck so you can fight other people.

as for PVP modes, I don't know I've been gathering moves and haven't gotten into combat trials much, but now that I think I've got all I need, I'm jumping in.

In the damage scaling stuff, why sometimes the Letter ia green or red? What thst means?

>>187826902
It means the attack you're replacing it with had a higher or lower scaling in that stat.

>>187826902
Same as all other green and red letters.
"This scaling is slightly better"
"This scaling is slightly worse"
Same thing happens with the damage numbers if you change some gear but don't change enough for it to go up or down by a full .1 damage.

>>187826636
The PVE is totally pathetic and only serves as a grindy timewasting gating mechanism between new players and a full move deck. The game has your typical Souls-knockoff style story where there is no actual story.

It's just 1v1 for now but more incoming unless the developers/publishers decide they want to tank their public reputation (2v2 and 3v3 have been promised).

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there's any penalization for dying?
what's those arrows that appear on the white "loading bar" that appears after every attack?
I'm missing some tutorial or something, there's anything I should know?

>>187827162
Only real penalty for dying is that you lose any learning progress you gained during the fight you died in. Well, that and moving backwards slightly.

>>187826636
Story is pretty barebones, though it can be legit challenging

The world is comparable to Souls where there are enemies, bosses and items to find

Where do I remove multiplayer from the area jin mesca spawns at?

>>187827351
Adal Tower has an altar you know

>>187827162
>what's those arrows that appear on the white "loading bar" that appears after every attack?
Read the tips menu in the pause menu of the debuilding practice area.

>>187825223
>>187825569

You guys should stop sucking Forsaken's dick so much, it's not at all a good style against spammers. Nothing is.

Spamming quick jabs is the meta, conform or get fucked. Parrying gives you 0.5sec of respite, and then the onslaught continues.

I'm mad, that the community has deteriorated to this colourless state already, where numbers win and everyone wants to be the Fist of the North Star.

>>187827351
Also it would seem that you can simply disable it at the altars.
In the encounter menu I believe. Either that or in the settings, I'm not entirely sure.

I played the game since release, but I only just now noticed the map at the shrines. Am I retarded or did they patch that in recently?

>>187827538
>Spamming quick jabs is the meta

Odd since anyone who tries this on competent players will get sidestepped and spaced or in my case they'll eat a fucking haymaker for like 1/4 of their health

>>187827538
There's a meta already? I don't even have all the moves I want yet.

They really need to do a video tutorial on how exactly the "create a deck" works

>>187827802
Theres no meta, that anon is just too retarded to deal with someone literally just jabbing them

>>187827753
Retarded.

>>187824798
Initiate with the really quick low sweeps

>>187827351
>>187827442
Also playing offline is an incredibly obvious option for removing multiplayer.

>>187827939
>>187827620
so I have to turn off internet because turning off encounters at the tower or columbine pylons doesnt help as jin mesca spawns in his own little area

>>187827754
Okay, here's what's happening to me:

>be Forsaken
>fight spamming Stagger
>sidestep
>he 360° twirls his hands into my face
>I parry
>he does it again until I fail to parry him
>die to relentless assrape

The same is true for the other two styles: Everyone seems to have wide sweeping attacks right when they need them.

I'm not retarded, I swear, but switching stances this quickly is way beyond me.
Might be because I'm using a steam controller for a lack of my usual xbox-controller.

>>187828096
Block it

>>187828085
It's not the encounter menu, it's the social menu.
You can literally disable seamless encounters globally.

>>187828085
Jin can spawn on the bridge up the stairs from the Adal altar. If he does, good luck, as the space is tiny and he'll pen you in.

>>187828370
yes
go social
turn encounters into invite only
and the game turns it back to normal encounters when you change area

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How the fuck am i supposed to build a deck? Am I supposed to make one combo and have it link into a few other mixups? Am I supposed to have a combo for each stance direction? Am I supposed to leave certain stance directions for counters to other moves, like sweeps or shield breakers? Are you actually supposed to be expected to rapidly switch stance in the middle of a combo to counter what's coming at you? I can barely change stance without accidentally doing my special ability, fuck

>>187828750
You can do all of that.

>Dear Prospects, the team at Sloclap is dedicated to adding new content, features, and fixes to expand and improve Absolver for the community. These updates will be posted here in the News section of the website as well as the forums. Thanks for all your support, you can join the discussion in the official forums.

>Below are the patch notes for update 1.03 that is rolling out now. Please note that we are continuing work on online stability and server availability for players around the world.

>- Crash fix related to combo edition
>- Engine crash fixes than can produce corrupted save data
>- Crash fix on dialog
>- Improved overall game stability
>- Fixed save data corruption issue

>Discussion Thread: http://steamcommunity.com/app/473690/discussions/0/1474221865183656667/

Hope they fix the damn servers

>>187829461
They made an update stating that they're working on fixing the damn servers.

>>187828750
Look at the end of the placed attacks when in your deck builder, also how they are sorted.
Different attacks will leave you in a different stance, even walking around and getting hit will change your stance.
It works like this, if you attack 4 times in a single combo it will go through the row which is for the stance you're in when you started the combo, and it will leave you in the stance that the last attack in that combo ends in.

It will always leave you in the end stance of whatever attack you end with, the alternate attacks will let you switch stance mid combo if you use them.
It's up to you to do with these mechanics what you will.

>>187829019
>>187828750

All of that stuff just gets me excited tbqh, you can start out pretty basic (generally useful to start out making fast-fast with AoE (like spins or sweeps etc)-slow combos to start) but when you really start thinking about it, it's pretty mind-boggling how much you can switch your game up in any given instant once you git gud ideally.

It's not just the end move that switches you into other stances, remember. Each move ends in a certain quadrant, so you could have a 3-hit combo that loops back on itself if you just kept spamming X but if you just do the first hit and then wait a sec or dodge, the next X push could be in a completely different stance, or if you went hit hit dodge the hit could be in yet another stance, and then you have the alt moves that could put you in yet ANOTHER stance, or be set up in a way that could have the alt attack of every other stance except your top right loop you back up to your top right stance, which you could have as your starting position.

This is the sort of game with a lot of longevity that you can really sink your teeth into if you so choose. I love that about it. You can set things up in a pretty simple way when you start and do okay but you can also see how deep the rabbit hole goes and pull off some insane shit, the potential from the core game mechanics alone is intense.

>>187829698
>>187828750
Furthermore, the different stances have different attacks available for them, when you place the first attack in a combo the next attack on that row will belong to the stance that the first one ends in.
So if my first attack moves me to the backwards right stance, the next attack that I can place in that combo in the first row will be from that stance.

Seems the way to win is 30 endurance and stupid fast jab combos that windfall dodges still get caught in and not even absorbing or charging can deal with

>>187830163
parrying stuns them but thats hard against bitchslaps
is it possible to do with attacks that counter?

new player, am I suposed to kill these two bosses called lost prospect? I dont really know what to do or where to go Im lvl 9 not in a school

>>187830163

Try using some long reach attacks to outspace people like kicks.

>>187830613
you are supposed to kill everyone who is not invincible

>>187830613
use the shitty map to find your dots
go kill your dots
kill all the dots

Beating the campaign is actually fucking pointless because the truly important thing isn't beating enemies, it's beating them to within a couple hits from death and then letting them try to kill you for ten minutes while you hope they use moves you don't already have.

>>187828096
>steam controller
How's the right haptic working out for you?
You should try rebinding the flappers to change into specific stances.
In the keyboard Q/E/Z/C are your stance buttons, you could bind the flappers to press one or those.

I'm getting my ass kicked, should I just start placing stats into my character?

>>187830163
>People actually lose to the jab spam
Nigga just block the jabs and watch the enemy deplete his own stamina, if he attempts a heavy use your class defensive skill and you can get guaranteed damage when the enemy runs out of stamina or a punish if you're forsaken or windfaggot

Alternatively you can low under them or just sidestep them or just use your defensive skill on the second hit of his one two

>>187831057
>Jabfaggot tries to infinite me
>Just Stagger forward and trade with a punch to enter my own chains instead

Why is Stagger the best style underneath Forsaken?

Where's a good place to learn swordfighting moves?
Feels damn silly to be be building combos where only four attacks actually swing my sword.

How fucking come forsaken can dodge attacks?
The fuck

>>187831213
>Infinites
I'm tired of this meme, this game has no infinites and barely any true strings, more often than not you can always block mid enemy combo

The meme is perpetuated by retards who attempt to mash and lose to people who mash quicker due to faster selection of moves

>>187831595
Nigga I didn't mean I get stunlocked or some shit I just meant his chain links into itself so he can keep the same punch string going until interrupted.

>Literally everyone I fight is using the exact same moveset of infinite chains
>They all have infinite seeming stamina
>Their attacks do HUGE fucking damage and track to a degree that can best be described as fucking outlandish
>They're all Level 40+ while I am level 25

So, uh, is everyone but me using some le epic Reddit meme build or something? Why do their attacks seem to use no stamina and drain my stamina like fucking nuts, but my attacks do tiny plinks of piss damage and use most of my bar? Why the fuck can't I dodge ANYTHING? Why do enemy attacks track me 100% of the time through every dodge movement, but my attacks seem to have the hitbox/tracking of a fucking pin prick? This is absurd, and I don't know if I wanna play a game where literally everyone but me is using the same builds that track perfectly, deal huge damage, require no feinting or guarding, and don't use any stamina.

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>>187832194
eh I figured my own loop
still trying to figure out how to conserve stamina

>>187812061
>tfw theres already hackers running around one shotting people

nice shit game

>>187831498
Anyone can dodge attacks by pressing B on the controller. It's just a slower Windfall Dodge that uses more stamina.

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>>187832194
>"Hm, I have an idea for a deck!"
>"Three quick jabs to loop into a dodging attack, which goes into a quick follow up jab, which does a haymaker to trade with the response!"
>"The enemy will be low on stamina at this point, so I can follow with a flying elbow bash, then a backwards, long ranged elbow bash when they try to back up!"

>Lose to guys who are flailing around like spinning tops with low stamina, high damage, high speed, high tracking moves

At least I tried.

Anyone know where to "farm" Tripped Kick?
I really wish there was some kind of UI indicator that told you which area had specific moves that you've blocked

So basically there is not much point to just run through the areas right? I get destroyed by mobs, better off leveling in arena, correct?

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>forsaken using stagger moves

i thought you guys said stagger was a meme? i get my ass handed to me every time i fight one

>>187833109
No, you should fight most of what you see. Fighting is how you learn moves, and since actually progressing towards learning those moves you have to actually win the fight it's much easier versus AI than players. This gets even more true if you're underleveled and trying to win in the arena.

Fight shit and fill out your combat deck, at the very least.

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>due against someone in a closed map
>easily kill him 2 rounds within a minute
>he clearly gives up and doesn't fight back
>just taunt him nonstop until he finally leaves making him gain no points
Feels coolio

The funny thing to me in this game is that people still haven't figured out spacing, which is the bread and butter of any dark souls 3 veteran.

Look at the range of attacks more, guys. A lot of the fast jab moves are short as fuck, you can really fuck the spammers up by outreaching them.

>>187833469
I fight shit, I just never win, unless its 1 mob or a low level area. They come at me 2-3 and targettting in this game is pretty bad so I get fucked often.

>>187831676
>Not having your entire deck link into itself row after row while doing golden links non stop using alternative attacks to go 1 row back or 1 forward
Do you even deck build?

Do you reckon I can run this on a Nvidia GeForce GTX 1050 Ti?

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>>187825601
>starts running away
I laughed

>>187833585
You can soft target shit in 1vX situations by pointing your left thumbstick at them. Makes fights against multiple people handleable.

You'll still be locked on to whoever you're locked on to, but your attacks and dodges will work relative to the person you're soft locked on to.

>>187833752
Alright thanks, I'm sure I'll handle this sooner or later like I did in the dark souls series.

>>187833673
My deck is one 12 hit looping chain while my alternates are kicks meant to catch dodges and reset me to top right, while my top right alternate is a charged haymaker.

Shit's solid.

>>187833936
>Try to do alternate attack
>Get interrupted by enemy spamming attacks

Also, I wanna see your deck, it sounds funny.

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first arena beat a guy 6 levels over me

gittin gud here bois

>>187822048
Nothing is cheating, everything is allowed. Don't get caught up in the honor bullshit.

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>trying to train a kick off of an NPC
>theres a sword 3 inches from their spawn
>they keep picking up the sword instead of using their attacks
>get the sword first
>a sword instantly spawns in the same place
Why couldn't I just fucking buy my moves

>>187833585

Git. Gud.

i have a feeling I'm gonna be saying this a lot over the next couple of weeks...

>>187822048
I played against someone like that, won 3-0
I fight barechested

>>187834285
Just fucking beat the shit out of them until they drop it, and block with it until it breaks. Then do the same thing for the second sword.

>>187834285
we cant let that happen, its p2w
moves gotta be in lootboxes

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I picked Forsaken and haveno clue that stats to max, I'm just going endurance for now

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If you start a combo with Drunk Crane, you deserve to be shot. That move's hitbox is the size of fucking China.

What's the best route for PvE? Does it matter?

>>187834883
When you look at moves in your deck editor you will notice letters next to them which indicate the stats that they scale best from. S scales the best, obviously, and E or - scales the worst.

Level up the stats that best accentuate the moves you prefer, but remember, there are no bad moves or bad styles, it all comes down to your subjective preference and what feels good to you.

>>187835347
dont think it matters much
its so easy to get lost too

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Daily reminder that forsaken is for shitters.

Lets be honest, I'm not the only one who spams and places random fast moves on his deck, right?

how often do you guys bow during arena matches? just in the beginning? at the start of every round (so up to like 5 times)? not at all? :^)

I'm all for being polite at the start but after that cmon man, I just want to fight faggot

>>187835398
yea I've seen that, I guess it's not worth bothering with it for now since I barely have any moves. Can you reset your points?

>>187833676
Most definitely.
This game is not well optimized yet, but on my 1060 it runs flawlessly.

>>187835974
Never, i personally hate it and find it cringy especially mid fight

>>187830865
>How's the right haptic working out for you?
Horribly. Since I'm playing Forsaken and I'm dependent on getting off parries, I'm pretty much fucked. I need to flick my thumb twice most of the time for the controller to register my input and the parry animation to play out.
I'm still fiddling with the settings though.

>You should try rebinding the flappers to change into specific stances.
In the keyboard Q/E/Z/C are your stance buttons, you could bind the flappers to press one or those.

I should've thought of that before, I'll see how that works out.
I use 2 strings of 6 hits each. Binding 2 stances might be clever. Thanks, anon.

Is there an actual reason every single person's every attack tracks me 100% through every dodge or why my matches are exclusively against people 10-15 levels over me?

>>187836032
Not sure actually. I only just started playing yesterday.

>>187835694
you dont know shit about getting lost
im in the same exact area for 2 days already

What to do if someone is pressuring you with a seemingly endless string? I typically play khalt but I have been fighting drunken users and their strings just keep going and going. How do I slip out?

Also, how do I incorporate more heavy strikes? I love falcon punch and jump out elbow but those moves are so garbage that only retarded people get hit. There are no setups in this game.

Also, what's the point of quake? Why not just use exhaust? Don't both of them open your enemy up for attacks with exhaust making their stam shitty and quake doing nothing almost?

>He doesn't wear the heaviest and highest blunt damage reduction armour

any major differences between pc and ps4 population?

>>187836032
You can't, but don't worry about min maxing stats perfectly. Stats impact beyond a certain point is very small.

>>187836341
No clue, though Sloclap is working on PC/PS4 Crossplay so hopefully soon enough it won't matter

How big of a difference does lots of armor make?

>>187835720
Haven't you ever played Dank Souls?
It's part of the mating ritual between two fighters; doing a cutesy dance for comedic effect is the equivalent of shaking dry another Roman's penis in the privy.
Next I'm sure he will start emoting at you with his sassy "not going to happen" fingers.

>>187833558
>the bread and butter of any dark souls 3 veteran
Ooh look out boys it's a dark souls THREE veteran!

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god damnit why's there 2

>>187836174
I also play forsaken, own a steam controller and have two strings of 6 attacks. but ever since I bought a dual shock 3 controller I binned my steam controller.
I really want to love it, but that right haptic really fucks me up in too many games.

Good luck anon, I really hope you make it work and absolutely pummel shitters with it.

I made a pretty kick ass forsaken combat deck that is easy to play. Would anyone be interested if I posted it and explained how to use it?

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Holy FUCK windfall is fucking disgusting. Literally infinite stamina and endless combos with the heaviest armor. I feel like I'm fucking cheating, jesus christ.

Which punches are really meaty but don't have super long wind ups? I am looking for a punch string that has some meat on it. I'm trying to punch faces, not love tap them with a jab string. I want medium speed but moderate damage.

>>187836937
>what you doin on our turf, boy?
>this starts playing https://youtu.be/oMGS--qe15I

>>187836242
>how do I land big hits
Disclaimer: this is all my personal autistic theory-crafting, but I think that:
Feinting works good against forsaken and (with less success) windfall players.
You can line up two heavies, feint the first and land the second.
Or you can use charged attacks that will tank one hit to trade (or feint that) and then string your falcon punch afterwards.
Spacing is king. My favorite heavy attack is actually the front kick.
It moves forward enough to out space a jab.
It's got a long windup which makes it parry bait, but it can always be canceled for another attack.

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stumbled up dude who mostly used charged punches, and other slow heavy shit, at first i figured out his moveset and started parrying him like black belt but then he pulled off another set of different charged shit. He didn't even dodged\parried\absorbed once, not sure what class he was, but its fucking brutal to play against it

This standard Stagger deck is actually super solid

Like I've since learned the moves so I could make my own deck, but i'm scared to do so because I've gotten so used to the school's deck and have been doing work with it

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>>187837468
git gud

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>>187812061
Reply with your fresh absolver fits
pic related

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Neat, just got this. Haven't seen it before.

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>>187837598
im trying ok?
where do you even get these charged punches anyway?

>>187837805
Where'd you find this?

>>187837914

Combat rank RNG.

>start windfall king fu guy
>level 5
>combat trials against level 37 guy
>win twice
Do stats just not matter?

Is there any quick anti air uppercut? As khalt I just don't know what to vs a jump kick or a low kick besides absorb. Where the duck are my low punches and high punches with not shit startup.

In order to unlock stagger style, just killed this drunken punch guy, now I must go to some arena place but where is that?

>>187834121
Don't get attached to that feeling, because you WILL get matched with peole 1X levels over you.
It makes the victory sweater, but also the defeat more frustrating.

>>187838081

They make a small increase in damage and whatnot, but nothing that really matters in the end. If you're good, you'll outskill people.

I just can't find that bottom left "mini-boss"

Where the fuck is him?

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Could this be our resident namefag by any chance?

>>187838081
This game is like 50% skill, 50% your deck. Build does make a difference, but all that matters is a really strong deck and the intuition to use it effectively.

How do I start thinking ahead? I tend to just do moves and not really think about alternatives or using alternatives to stance change. I often change stance manually. Is that a bad idea? For example, my top right alt is the hay maker. I often manually switch to top right and then haymaker. Is that a bad idea?

>fighting guy with 2 really quick jabs
>dodge the first but still get hit by the second
>charge through the first but get hit by the second
>can't use my attacks that sidestep or duck because it knocks me out of those stances
>he loses almost no stamina doing this
nice game

>>187838882
What are you looking for, rules of thumb? This is a fighting game, not starcraft. You need to be think about what your opponent wants you to do and then do something else, not going into every fight on auto-pilot.

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>>187838882
balancing the stances in your combat deck is a matter of consistency vs. variance.

my current combat deck has my top right quadrant as the "poking" stance. every one of my strings return to that stance on the final attack. my top left quadrant is my "aggression" stance. my every stance has the alternative attack lead to my aggression stance.

that basically means i can determine whether i want to be poking or pushing as easily as pressing X or Y.

i could write a whole post about why my deck owns

>>187839031

Was it "Crazy Lamer"? Because I've seen him a lot doing that today.

I did my first combat trial. Level 36 or something here.
>get put in the arena where you fight the two bosses
>guy bows
>try to bow but can't remember which button to press so I never did
>ah whatever he gets the idea
>he's looking all kungfu so he's probably a windfall
>just go ham on him fucking yolo
>beat the shit out of him, dodging, absorbing, countering great
>pull out my punch mitts last round
>won 3-0 never losing 1/4 of my health
That was fucking fun as shit. The guy was a pretty decent sport, but he'd run away to heal.

Wait, you seriously need to master Stagger before you can leave the School and make your own school?

Anyone have an idea where theres a good spot to grind the heavy armor mobs?

>>187839031
that might have been me rofl, my whole deck is based around griefing people with a quick jab -> hook combo

are you on EU?

How many bosses in Central harbor?I'm stuck and just can't find the bottom left boss, I'm not sure if he is at the coliseum, at the harbor or at the oratian quarter

>>187839340
yeah i'm on eu

>>187839550
There is one Marked One in the Harbor
There is one Marked One in the Arena, and also one Main Boss
There are no Marked Ones in the Oratian Quarter

How do I leave a school? I don't want to be in a school anymore.

How do I beat a parry spamming forsaken player?

>>187839980
Feint

Why are people having brain aneurysms over jab strings? Get one strafing attack(dodges verticals and thrusts) and counter jab stringers with it. As a khalt player, body blow is a really good opener. Yoi basically stuff jab strings because strafing attacks dodge verticals and thrusts for the length of the attack.

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why can't I join this stagger school? I killed the drunk guy at the bridge and talked with this guy

>>187840359
I think you need to be a specific lvl.

>>187840359
alright I did it by spamming some keys, seems doesn't work good with mouse

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I'm still looking for headstand kicks and jumping light kicks, anyone know of any enemy with those?

>>187839883

I'm at the arena right now, the Main boss is that one we "summon" in the middle of the arena?

What about the door that says I need to find and defeat Jin Mesca to open? This door leads to another boss? Who the fuck is Jin Mesca?

>>187839980
Forsaken is actually the weakest class in the game. It's a one trick pony that can be defeated by proper feinting, which any class can do and you should always be mixing into your strings unless your opponent is shit, in which case you can just dumpster them like the trash they are.

>>187840506
The Main Boss is the one you summon.
That door is just there so you can learn a new style later. Jinn Mesca is just a dude that spawns randomly, don't worry about it: it's not gating your progress.

>>187832952
Try the colosseum

>Finally got a mask from PvP
>It's a Tear Chief Mask that I already had
>Not even cleaner or anything like PvP gear usually is

Fuck

>>187840646

Oh, so I guess the boss I'm missing is the "sub boss" at the coliseum then, thanks friend.

>Figured out how to be good with Stagger
>Shitting on all these kids that just picked it up and are spamming moves

The forward dodges and back dodges are fucking insanely good. Between them, there isn't a move in the game you can't stuff. Except for, like, the jumping elbow and other breaking attacks that lunge people forward.

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>>187812385
PLEASE name the movies for Windfall and Forsaken.

I recognise the images, and I'm losing my mind because I can't remember where from.

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fuuck, i want this mask. why won't she drop it

>>187832779
I have a similar deck that works great against them

Simple jab loop in top right with haymaker alternate. Since you always default back into that stance it's a good one size fits all solution to escape strings and punish

>>187841643
you have to sex her first idiot

>>187841596
Windfall = The One
Forsaken = Ip Man

Forsaken inspirational video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9ZRjIiNzhM

>>187841643
Anon you have to do 1v1s to get the mask. Every level in trials drops an item

>>187841863
oh, neat

>>187838345
>if you only have quick attacks in your deck, you'll stomp people

ftfy

>>187841863
You can also get them random dropped from specific enemies

>>187841643
Farm while doing Co-op: the drop rates get exponentially better for some reason.

is there no way to communicate with someone? i was dueling against some guy called WeeabooDown. he wasn't a bad player but his deck was super easy to read. i beat him like 4 times in a row because of that and i couldn't tell him "yo add some mixups senpai"

>>187842261

It's bothersome, but you can beat it.

>>187841814
Thank you. Now I can die.

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>learn 4 moves from boss
>die

>>187842536
Your name in game is the same name on steam so you can try looking it up.

>>187842734
This is why you always put them at one hit before learning moves

Anyone know where the Forsaken school is, if there even is one? I'm already Forsaken but it seems like you get extra goodies while leveling up in the school that matches your style

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>>187842886
>Try to do this with Jinn
>He pulls out a fucking sword and has the capability to oneshot me
>Try to dodge instead
>His moves are all wide arcs so thats a pipe dream
>Stagger Sword moves forever out of reach

>>187842261
Yeah uhh I haven't really found any use for slow heavy attacks in this game. They only get me if I don't recognize the move. If I do recognize the move, then it's more or less a guaranteed parry into my OWN heavy attack. Seems like feinting is way too fiddly and has to be used too early in this game to be worth it

>>187842886
didn't know that the boss would ABSORD 10 OF MY FUCKING MOVES GOD I FUCKING HATE THIS SHIT

Got it an hour or so ago. This game is pretty bad on telling you what to do. I can see why people like it, but the combat is so chaotic and seems l'm just flailing all over the damn place. It's not that the basic mechanics aren't simple to grasp, but the flow of the combat is wonky as fuck. I'm never sure how to handle individual moves that opponents use. It just feels like the best strategy is usually blocking and then unleashing your own combo before having to block again.

Trying to figure out which one of your own moves you should use for specific situations is about as incomprehensible. Call me a newfag or tell me to git gud, but it doesn't feel right at all. The only thing I like is the dodging and movement. Figuring out how to work your way around different moves is actually pretty intuitive and fun.

DESU, it just makes me want to install Blade Symphony. May just end up refunding this and reinstalling that.

What level do you have to be to rechallenge big boss chick? Don't want to go through the effort of climbing that fucking tower if I'm underleveled.

>>187843352
I felt the same when I started playing. The game just drops you into it. It took me a couple of hours to figure out how to build a deck and how to manipulate my moves so that I'm doing what I want to be doing

It is pretty satisfying when you happen to make a sick combat deck that actually works really well though

>>187812684
i found lowering the resolution quality helps greatly in keeping 60fps without much of a visual detriment on graphics - it looks a bit washed out and blurry but i dont think it matters much in a game like this, i still drop in some areas though

>>187843398

30 Combat Rank, then 60.

>>187843398
You need to be level 10 in Trials to challenge the mind control guy, and level 20 to challenge the twins, so I'd guess you need to be 30 to challenge her.
>she drops her mask beating her for the third time
this game will be dead by the time I reach this fucking rank

Anybody know what enemy has the Axe Kick? Not the Hammer Kick that glows, but the actual Axe Kick.

>>187843352
>It just feels like the best strategy is usually blocking and then unleashing your own combo before having to block again.
if you block forever you eventually will be guard broken and comboed, if you try to start your yolo mash combo you eventually will be dodged\parried\absorbed\ and comboed by opponent instead. Use your brain ffs, thats how you usually play fighting games.

newfag and git gud

>get the bird duel map
>framerate goes to 45 because it's absolutely necessary to render all the foliage that isn't on the screen

great optimization desu

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why is baiting class abilities so much fun?

Is there any reason not to put all of my points into health and stamina?

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so, anyone else encounter this with the update?

>>187844534
soft caps, noticeable at 15+
but yes, 20 points in vit and end seems standard

>>187844534
You'll do shit damage?
>inb4 hurr, I'll just outlast them
No you won't, damage rise in more noticable than health/endurance

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>>187844242
>wearing both the stupid coat AND the stupid mask

Is there a way to see if your offline, or try to reconnect, without exiting to the main menu?

I was playing for a while and saw some other players, but then they disappeared and I didn't see anyone for like 20 minutes so I exited and it said I was offline. I want to play with people, what the fuck.

>>187845021
>Not wearing the stupid coat.
That blunt protection though.

>Tfw you go to the 5th round against someone clearly your equal

Post your battle music, /asg/!

https://youtu.be/ZTidn2dBYbY?t=23

>>187844242
>try to spin
>get hit
>"next time!"
>try to spin
>get hit
>"next time!"
>try to spin
>hit
>"can't handle the baits haha"

>>187845042
The encounters menu as well as the social and 1v1 fighting will all be grayed out.

does anyone know if the difference between fast and normal encumbrance is large enough to care about?

I wanna fashion and, granted I like my current fashion, it's very limiting.

>>187845021
Fuck off, the poncho looks comfy. It's blunt protection is also neat.

>>187845289
if it actually looked like a poncho though

nice i was fighting two npcs and someone joined my game, lagged me to shit and all my inputs stopped working. got lagged into a corner and killed.

FUN GAME GUYS

Am I seeing this right that comboing stagger users is hopeless because their interrupts are so quick? What exactly is their drawback, bad at trading single hits?

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>>187845021
better?
>>187845270
the lighter you are the faster stamina regens and normal dashes seems to be faster/cover more distance

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Good style or no? Wanted to fit a pair of gloves on, but the fur is so heavy it would push me into the next weight class.

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>>187845195
>tfw punch only deck

either
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6JapDyUwAu8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1fuwUJnKFM
or
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dVKMla1LAY

>>187845363
Just wait until you've finished learning 7 moves from an NPC, decide to go ahead to kill it for those sweet unlocks and then have it literally despawn in front of you because some fucktard connected to you

>>187845493
Where did you get that fur?

>>187845717
They're both Tear Chief furs, got the shoulder piece from a random drop I think, got the belt from PvP.

>>187845471
>the lighter you are the faster stamina regens and normal dashes seems to be faster/cover more distance

well yeah, I know that but I wanted to know if the difference between light and normal is large enough for it to matter in the long run

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>>187845547
>>187845195
anyone figured out how to mod the music yet

>>187845570
>>187845363
>not playing in offline mode
literally why?

>>187845789
does not seem so

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>>187845195
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83486UyyB04
SPEED
IS
MY
WEAPON

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Matchmaking: u tried :)

>>187845978
>Go into matchmaking completely unprepared
>Get surprised when you lose.
Wew laddy.
You're supposed to beat the bosses first.
Once you've done that then the difference between high levels and low levels is the amount of moves they have, and a very slight damage difference.

>"If you find a master, you can change your combat style"
So I'm guessing you need to join a school to get another style?
Anyone have a Windfall school

>>187825601
what is the stats to go for, for Forsaken? I went 18 str, 18 dex, 12 end 12 vit