/civ4xg/ - Stellaris, Endless, Civilization and 4X Games General

Of course it's the spider.

>>187617368
Really new? The new Master of Orion. Absolutely mediocre if you have any experience, but great to get into the genre.

>>187617368
For 4x in general, Civilizations. Either the fourth or the fifth one.
Endless Legend has deeper combat and may scare you, since in typical French fashion, nothing is explained.

>>187617290
Oi, cunt, they're totally different, you mongoltard. Just enjoy it and stop being a pansy.

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>>187617919
Yeah but, enjoy what, the original sin or the prequel, since its a RPG

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>>187618986

>>187618986
The eternal emperor.

>>187619237
This black pilot chick is hawt

>>187618986
is this objectively the best race in ES2? Seems like they're powerful in all regards and get the ball rolling way easier than others.

and really, is industry the only thing that matters in ES2? Like, why would you ever want a ton of food as opposed to a ton of industry? Or any other resource?

>>187619824
They're the only one I enjoying playing so yes

>>187619824
Does a surplus of food even matter? Does it do anything at all?
I'd say that's the reason why the Unfallen are kinda shit, they're all about just growing a bunch of shit while the hummies are all about the industry and the jews are all about jewing. Growing up a population is nice and all, but it's not so useful when you have a glacial colonization rate and make fuckshittons of food anyway.

>>187619985
Increases manpower replenishment

>>187619985
I think excess food is converted into Manpower, which is a crucial resource at times. But funny enough, UE has so much influence that you can just praise the fuck out of every minor civ you find, and getting them on good terms gives you manpower and other benefits anyway.

And growing your population quicker probably doesn't matter when industry can just help you build food-based system improvements faster.

>>187620029
Last time I played the Unfallen that was a horrid fucking disadvantage, though. I was making 1k+ manpower per turn of a total 12k capacity, but I wanted to wipe off all those disgusting fucking cravers off some of my conquered worlds. The only way to do that is either decolonization (which randomly doesn't work sometimes for no goddamn reason) or chaingang them away (for which you oh-so-usefully need to have remaining manpower capacity.) So I had to alternate between infantry and tanks in the military screen for ten fucking minutes just to get a single pop of craver off one world.

Eugenics in ES2 fucking when?

>>187617368
Civilization Revolutions

>>187617448
How is the Vox patch for Civ 5?

>>187620401
Actually, this happened in one of my last playthroughs as UE. I killed off the cravers but a ton of their population is still sitting around. Does Chaingang even let you choose which population dies? How do I get all the cravers to fuck off so they don't deplete the planets they're on?

This really fucked me up because I conquered all 10 of their systems, and their population was all over, there wasn't even the option to just try to send them all off to one planet or anything. Also, they were mixed in with tons of other pops, so I didn't want to evacuate a lot of them.

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Is there any Civ 5 mod that removes happiness?

>>187620659
>>187620401
Can't you ship all the bugs to a given planet and then, I dunno, sell it?

>>187620190
Yeah, because manpower is so incredibly useful to a race of pacifists. Pass.

>>187620659
>Does Chaingang even let you choose which population dies?
No, and it's fucky as all hell, but you can kind of control it (unless you are unfallen and have pop growth out the fucking ass). The pop that's supposed to grown next is generally the one that gets chain gang'd. You'll see it on the growth bar, it'll have a -1 in 1 turn.

I also did one thing - convert to system level 2, send the fuckers off to another planet. Doesn't matter if it'll have space for all of them, as long as it has space for three when you send 'em. The ship will just wait outside the system until space becomes available - and the ship will just disappear if you decolonize it right afterwards.
Of course, that'd be great if you could decolonize any system. You can't decolonize some for some nebulous fucking reason. It'd be great if you got any indication anywhere or if ES2 had a wiki worth shit.


I just wish you could turn excess food into something more useful. Use it to boost trade goods or increase trade stats for the system, hell, sell it off to other systems or civs, fucking anything but just manpower.

>>187620857
Well in my case as UE, there were just far too many. I would have to sort and send off cravers to like 4-5 different systems, and then evacuate off all those systems. Even worse, the mechanic to send off pops only works 3 at a time, and i guess you can't send them off to a planet that's already full? I dunno, it's a weird and annoying mechanic.

>>187621027
I skip over almost every food related tech in the tree for every campaign. They really need to think of more ways it can benefit you. Races like Riftborn don't even need it, they just produce their population.

Also what's the point of being a pacifist race in this game? What's the point of the Unfallen? To just sit there through the whole game and do nothing? How do you win? Are you trying to just colonize half the galaxy? But in that case you'd eventually have to fight somebody. Are you supposed to go for economic by allying with everyone and making trade deals? I don't really get their point.

I felt the same way about the Roving Clans in EL. They can't even declare war. It's a mystery to me how anyone could do anything with that race. Same with Unfallen, I don't get what you're supposed to do. In my games with AI, the Unfallen are almost ALWAYS the first to die, and if they don't, they just sit around and do absolutely nothing, eventually just becoming a useless small blob on the map that spams you with messages about how nice you are.

>>187621438
It's at least possible to go tall in ES2 with trade companies. You can very easily get an economic victory that way.
And it's not like the world of ES2 is all that active anyway. Nobody declares wars on eachother, and if they do, they don't really go that far anyway. It's got all that exploration and story and shit, but they kinda forgot to make any special inter-race interactions. I want political scandals. I want corruption. I want big fuckups that end up affecting multiple races at once - the only event that really affects the entire galaxy is the entire Academy line of events, which is kinda nice.

>>187621690
I think trade companies are overpowered and that economic victories are far too easy. I've talked about it with others in the general before and apparently most people play with economy victory off. Even AI Lumeris if left alone can win a slow 450 turn game by turn 200 with economy victory if YOU specifically don't go try to stop them.

However, in most of my games, I somehow always fucking spawn right next to the cravers, so I'm always having some early game fighting and surviving. But after that, you're mostly right, not much happens. I agree with you. I think the AI don't declare war on each other enough. I've seen it a couple times, Horatio and Lumeris almost wipe each other out. But that was just one game. Usually they declare war on me only. And even then, it's easy to get them out of it, and sometimes they're not properly equipped to fight, you just blow up their 2 big stacks and then you sit at war with no activity for 30 turns.

I think teh game has definitely improved recently, where I thought it wasn't even playable a few months ago. I just can't really think of what exactly they need to do to spice it up. Like you said, there's not enough reason to interact. I am not interacting with other races unless I'm killing them.

Synthetic Dawn when fampai

>>187622658
Hopefully never.

>>187622798
I love that there aren't going to be unique ships just because. How fucking lazy are these assholes.

>>187620660
just play without the expansions

>>187622095
It just needs interratial interactions that aren't just war and peace. Diplomacy is lacking in particular, which is kind of sad seeing how technically complex the ES2 AI is. Hell, you can directly hook up to the ES2 game engine in a browser and look at all the AI cores and how they work in real time. They're just a bit too passive in general, and don't have much option outside of that.

>>187619985
Vodyani player here
What is this 'food' you speak of?

>>187619985
Spider player here.
What's food? I just guzzle cum.

>>187621027
There are late game techs in the left and I think right trees that convert surplus food into industry at a pretty substantial rate
They're 5th ring though so it may be too little too late unless you beeline for it

>>187623882
Guess I'm beelining every game, then.

What the shitfuck is with the "overpopulation" penalty anyway? You have absolutely no control over that unless you explicitly go out of your way to microtune the food output of every single one of your colonies. You can't even do any population control, so what the fuck is the point?

>>187623642
this was my, the UE players, original point. I don't think anyone gives a fuck about food. It has barely any use outside of manpower, which is usually not a big deal for me anyway. The advantages for having a larger population than someone else isn't great, especially since they have these overpopulated penalties anyway, why WOULD I want to have a lot of food? I just don't get it.

>>187624039
I mean on the one hand it's certainly frustrating from a player perspective, but on the other in some aspects it's sort of intended to be that way. It adds to the sense that it ain't always easy being a galactic ruler I guess. Like when you conquer craver planets it's like 'alright super, free system' but now you've got a bunch of craver pop that you have to deal with.
I guess it would be nice to at least have the option to go full dictator and genocide civilian populations, but it adds some layer of challenge and counterbalance that you can't for whatever reason and have to find other solutions that won't make your people think you're space hitler.


Or something like that, anyway. Probably overthinking it

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>>187622852
> I love that there aren't going to be unique ships just because.
Far be it for me to defend a Swede, but there kinda are going to be unique ships.
Robot players get the robot ship models, which *technically* aren't new models since they've been in the game since 1.0 for the AI Rebellion, but in practice they are new models because no-one's ever seen the AI Rebellion apart from a few spergs like myself who go far, far, far out of our way to trigger it.

>I AM MANY THINGS

>>187626027
I HAVE BEEN MANY THINGS

>>187626027
I HAVE BEEN INSIDE MANY THINGS

So what are the hints that Auriga is one of the lost?

Fuck, the endless universe has so much neat lore, I'd love to run a pnp campaign in the setting

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Awwwwww yea gimme all dat delicious technology

I wrote over 2000 words of background for a dumb Aurora game with several nations, how do I actually play through it all without giving up right after having designed ships now? Send help.
I always feel like the actual game gets in the way, that's so wrong.

>>187625470
>apart from a few spergs like myself
Was just going to say, I've never seen it, I did not know they had unique ships.

>>187620660
you don't need a mod for that

>>187629301
To every person his/her own way to enjoy the game, you know.

Back in high school, I knew a guy who loved reading game manuals and making plans. He would write down castles for Stronghold, stations for Startopia, and I bet he creamed himself on Supreme Commander.
Yet he barely even played games. He just enjoyed the possibilities more than the actualy game. I called him the "backseat player".

Starting a Stellaris game with all other empires advanced starts, either fanatic xenophobes, devouring swarms or fallen empires. How else can I make the galaxy brutal?

>>187632142
Tap your fingers together, play with a laptop touchpad, with the screen reversed, and have your little sister reading Twilight aloud, while leaving garbage bags in the sun so that it stinks.
NIGHTMARE MODE

>>187632452
Don't you mean "Wiz working on a story update" mode?
Well, you'd need add a few niggers raping his relatives to make it accurate.

>>187632452
I only have a big sister, is that ok?

>>187632621
Then replace Twilight with Fifty Shade of Grey.

>>187632452
I would rather have my sister read Twilight aloud than listen to her talking about her SJW nonsense

>>187632136
I greatly enjoy actually playing Aurora too, but only when I'm playing a single nation. If I make up several, the game dies as soon as I designed ships and SM'd in the first ships.
I've got like like 20 copies of the database with a different game set up in with several nations (and I always autistically arrange flags, ship icons, colors, commander names, themes, ship classifications, etc.), and as many where I actually played the game and sometimes went real far in years (and TN years, not conventional), but with one nation only.

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I want a hard sci-fi colony manager/4x where you play as Joseph Goebbels shortly after embarking in 1945 on the dark side of the Moon, building great subsurface cities and preparing for when you ultimately re-emerge in the year 2018.

>>187632621
>No big sister to furiously masturbate to during puberty

I feel like i missed out.

>>187633123
I can't say I understand that, sorry, but sounds to me you want to create an universe.

>>187628294
I played a Broken Lord in a homebrew campaign one of my friends ran once.

>>187628294
Didn't they release an endless tabletop game?

You know what ruins 4x for me? The lack of discovery, exploration, and the unknown.

Take a game of Civ 5. Game starts, and you already know how many players there are and have a general idea of what the map is. Even on random, if you're even a little deligent with scouting you'll have most of the map and every Civ's capital uncovered within the first 50 turns or so.
There's no surprises. Once you meet the 8th civ, you know for a fact that that's it. There's not going to be another continent across the sea or beyond those mountains with another half-dozen fully functional Civs. There's never any big mass of map marked "here there be dragons" or anything like that. It wasn't until very recently, historically speaking, that we knew for a fact what the world looked like and where shit was, yet in 4x we figure it out in the BC years.
So you can't send an exhibition to India and stumble upon the Americas. You can't explore the Dark Continent and all it's mysteries and kingdoms. You can't lead the armies of Macadon out into the unknown, because there isn't any unknown. It really breaks the games for me.

Are there any 4x that deal with this problem? How would you even go about that?

>>187633291
An Iron Sky 4x? I would play it

>>187636592
It sounds like all these problems can be solved by playing the same game with a larger map and more civs.

Also, play older Civ games. It's not uncommon at all to discover another continent around the year 1500, because the map generation produces realistic continent-based worlds.

>>187636592
Play on bigger maps.

>>187620621
Good, improves the game. Calling it a complete overhaul is overselling it, though. Mechanically it's pretty much the same game, besides the different CS interaction and happiness.

If you've poked around on the customization wiki, you've probably heard of all that stuff JFD's made. Colonies and mercenaries and piety and prestige and so on. Well none of that's it Vox. Sorry.

>>187633297
Wtf dude, I only did that like twenty times

>>187637198
>>187637206
Bigger maps solve nothing. You still figure things out about the world way to quickly.

>>187637680
Try vox, 43 civs.

>>187637680
Dunno, don't play pangaea.
I had games of varying degrees of exploration, ranging from can't explore much due to early war, to finding everyone before being able to found WC.

>>187633891
I guess.
Another problem is that designing all these ships' a bit draining on its own, and then doing it several times in a row makes it worse.

>>187635449
Tell me more
>>187635449
Did they now?

>new dlc about robots by Martin "Kill All White Males" Anward

So presumably they aren't really doing anything with the awful boring combat that's like 75% of the gameplay?

>>187639236
There's suppose to be a general combat rebalance when the patch drops, I wouldn't hold out hope of it making combat greatly more interesting though, it's main purpose is to cut down on naked corvette spam and maybe make missiles not complete shit.

>EL "units with remaining moves" button is still bugged
that makes me angry

>>187633297
Play Snow Daze, by CypressZeta.

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>>187639236
>>187641467
>I have to pay even more money to get content I was promised at the very beginning

>>187644257
>thinking that changing the numbers associated with corvettes and missiles is 'content'

>>187636592
>how do you stop the player from metagaming
easy, stop playing games

>>187644386
"Functional Game" is content I was promised

>>187645241
You mean more wacky fanatic purifier variants right??

>you can't genocide Cravers in Endless Space 2
Shit game

>>187647645
>when you defeat a faction as Horatio it doesn't respawn the faction as another Horatio faction
shit game indeed

>>187645994
You heard the boss! More memes!

>>187637680
Civ 4 had a terra like map mode. These maps were generated with the "old world" being a continent situated arround the width axis of the world. The "new world" would be a continent situated along the length axis of the world with a narrow stip of land linking to bigger landmasses. There also are some carribean like islands and some bigger islands in an archipelago near the "old world" in the generated map. All civs start on the "old world" continent. I don't know if civ 5 or 6 have this map setting.

I mostly played on this map setting. It is a shame though that the ai rarely releases it's colonial possessions as a new countries and can't into invasions. It is possible to move your capital to the new world and release your old world possesions as a colony.

>>187636592
> You know what ruins 4x for me? The lack of discovery, exploration, and the unknown.

This is why I continue to rage that the inclusion of buildable megastructures in Stellaris was an egregious mistake.

EVEN IF they were mechanically great (and they're not, they're a mechanical shitshow), they're thematically atrocious because they were supposed to be this amazing galactic wonder that's a fantastic boon to discover and that entire civilizations fight and die over in thousand-year wars to possess the crown jewel of the Sagittarius Arm.

And what is it now? "Who cares; wait a couple of hours game-time, I'll build my own"

In general I agree with you though, there desperately needs to be interesting things to discover in Stellaris. The Leviathans were a step in the right direction in this regard, as "living wonders" to discover and potentially confer great boons.

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>>187622894
How so? I sometimes play with a friend who claims to not have any dlc and it still has that happiness bullshit on. Which would that be?
>leading to cafe
This captcha is up to something

>>187645994

Somebody tell the real Wiz to fix the damn hyperspace FTL. A speed buff is long due.

>>187653025
It used to be faster, and then he nerfed it because warp and wormhole fags REEEEEEEE'd about it.

>>187653025
haha did you say more flavour text for the new wacky fanatical purifier variants

>>187651924
I agree with this completely. Mega stuctures destroys the lore of fallen empires. They were supposed to be these ancient highly advanced empirese that slowly faded away. But now you can develop the same tech levels just over a century after you develop FTL.

Campaigns should be prolonged in stellaris like the pre FTL mod and have more levels of development of FTL tech with each new level promting a short boom in expansion. So the beginning is a period of slow expansion without meeting any other races. Followed up by possible civil wars depending on how you handle this expansion (kinda like LOGH with the war between earth and her colonies). These wars and their outcome could then have a great influence on how your country is run and what kind of bonusses it has other then the pre selected traits. Maybe there should be more traditions which will atomatically be taken if you choose to go down a certain path and exclude the ones that are the opposite of what you are doing.

>>187654906
>These wars and their outcome could then have a great influence on how your country is run and what kind of bonusses it has other then the pre selected traits.

I agree with this - the nature of your spacefaring civilization should be determined by what you actually find in space.

At the moment it's determined by entirely arbitrary civics, ethics, and traditions choices that anybody can pick at any time for any reason.

Come on, it's a sci-fi game - whether or not I become Masters Of The Psychic Plane should depend on whether or not I discover and set up a habitat orbiting the Eye of Terror, NOT because I picked Spiritualist Ethos in 2200.

This is why Horizon Signal: good; Ascensions: bad.

>>187650325
By not posting in the wrong thread.

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>>187662068
Cutest apples ever.

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Will it be time to make a new thread?

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>>187665227
Page 6, there's still hope. Do your part by posting meme empires!

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>>187665706
Why make another Japanese civilization?

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>tried to be smart in SupCom
>charged early with my UCB
>got killed midgame
>half my building exploded before I could give them to my allies
I'm happy RTS players are chill, otherwise I wouldn't have survived.

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>>187665706

>>187666713
>funguys
>not shyguys

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>>187666795
not sure you get the joke there matey

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>>187665706

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>>187665706
>you must wait 1 minute 30 before posting a duplicate reply

>>187667593
>no trait that increases growth speed when in posesion of domestic servitude slaves
cmon, how hard would it be to mod one with those flags?

>>187667235
Why is degeneracy so fun?

>>187666713
>conservationist
what mod?

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>>187671352
don't remember, some traits mod obviously but this was before civics came out so it'll be obsolete now

Features that should be in stellaris:

>Monarchies should have the option for a ruler to abdicate in favor of their heir after they have ruled for at least 10 years, at the cost of influence. This is so if you have immortal or extremely long-lived rulers you can still change up your government if you're willing to pay.

>Authoritarian empires should be able to control what factions form in their empire by spending influence. When a new faction would form a dialogue pops up with the options to either do nothing and allow the faction to form normally or to spend influence to prevent it. The more pops with the ethos behind the faction there are, the more expensive it is to prevent it from forming.

>Democratic empires should have internal events where factions submit new legislation, which can be vetoed by the player for the cost of influence. These bills would essentially be a forced change in policy for your empire, the policy would depend on which faction, and the veto cost would depend on how numerous that faction is. Allowing the legislation to pass grants the faction a massive influence/happiness boost for a few years.

>>187671240
Because cute anime girls.

>>187673863
But of they add useful features to the game they will have less time to shitpost about blorg bodypillows

>>187673863
>Monarchies should have the option for a ruler to abdicate in favor of their heir after they have ruled for at least 10 years, at the cost of influence. This is so if you have immortal or extremely long-lived rulers you can still change up your government if you're willing to pay.
This would be a useful feature if ruler quality was a major determinant of empire success, as it is in EUIV and to a lesser extent CK2. In Stellaris it's basically nothing.
>Authoritarian empires should be able to control what factions form in their empire by spending influence. When a new faction would form a dialogue pops up with the options to either do nothing and allow the faction to form normally or to spend influence to prevent it. The more pops with the ethos behind the faction there are, the more expensive it is to prevent it from forming.
Tfw the 1.4 faction system is better than the 1.5 faction system
>Democratic empires should have internal events where factions submit new legislation, which can be vetoed by the player for the cost of influence. These bills would essentially be a forced change in policy for your empire, the policy would depend on which faction, and the veto cost would depend on how numerous that faction is. Allowing the legislation to pass grants the faction a massive influence/happiness boost for a few years.
Given that most policies in the policies menu are almost completely fucking do-nothing (first contact protocol? food stockpile?), I do not feel that this would be a particularly noticeable change.
If they did things like "Instantly declare war on Empire Y" or "Break nonaggression pact and rival against Empire Z", then yes, because that actually shakes up the currently glacial diplomatic game.

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>>187672550

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>>187673954

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>>187673863
>>187674412
Faction members that go under 20% happiness should start funding pirates, rebel fleets and armies. Considering 40-60% happiness production as normal then what is "lost" as a penalty for unhappy pop would go into a Rebel and Pirate fund, eventually forming their own breakaway colony/empire where unhappy faction pops would migrate to. They'd buy colony ships and warships out of the accumulated happiness penalties.

I'd love more in depth rebel and pirate mechanics.

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>>187675050
>monster girls
I really wish I wasn't so autistic.

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>>187675050

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>>187674840
There is a Lovecraft mod

>>187676032
oh neat, might try it out once 1.8 rolls around

>>187675218
In the original dev diaries it describes that your sectors were supposed to become "Sector where the pacifists have support", "Sector where the egalitarians have support", "Sector where the spiritualists have support", etc, and over time it gets worse because the pacifists are attracted to migrate to the pacifist sector, so the ones contrary to your ethics get more and more pissed off, until they explode in rebellion.

It sounded like a great system and I don't understand why they decided to throw the idea in the trash.

>>187672550
found it, "extended traits"
the traits work if you still care

>>187676270
because 90% of players would rater set core sector to infinite before bothering with something that doesn't affects the AI empires, that and vision
played really long games, in the new system all my citizens were happy while every other empires were drowning in unrest, never see a single rebelion

>>187674412
>This would be a useful feature if ruler quality was a major determinant of empire success
Baby steps. This at least makes it extensible so that if/when leaders get an overhaul there's already a mechanic in place that makes monarchies viable. Hence why I put it as "should be in the game already"

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>>187681492
Holy shit.

>>187654906
basically the game is about 10x too fast

>>187681492
Be sure to salt these slugs.

>>187684016
Or the game is fast at the wrong points.
Like, in the early game, there's too much to do all at once: explore, fix your economy, colonize... you don't even want to be thinking about war. Or, at least, you have more than enough to do that the absence of war doesn't bore you.
But then the midgame comes, all 3 of those strands dry up, and you're left with the slow grind of "Tedious shipbuilding" followed by "Tedious warfare" followed by "Tedious shipbuilding" again.
All the gaming comes at the start and none of it at the middle or end.

So what you get is a game where the FUN bit is 10x too fast, but then it wastes away into an endgame slog that lasts a long time but is nothing other than time.

>guy making custom empires
>limits himself to custom bios in the game creator
>instead of editing 00_prescripted_countries.txt to be able to give them custom dialog and shit
lame

>>187685679
Wish paradox had added more origin choices, like colonial past (Commonwealth of Man -> UN of Earth). Would be fun to play a game where it's only humans, 7 different human colonies rebelling against the Earth hegemony.

I specifically play Commonwealth of Man because they get a custom intro instead of a generic one.

die

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I like this modded Hivemind intro more than the vanilla one.

>>187691398
Mod that makes all the Stellaris races into monstergirls/anime girls when?
It'd make the game 100% more enjoyable and also make it the Starbound of 4x games

Have Amplitude mentioned if Unique Planets in ES2 are going to get their own questlines?

Also where do you unlock Virtual Endless Heroes?

>>187691805
> the Starbound of 4X games
I'm not /v/ enough to know what you're implying with this.

>>187691398
>And the higher ones are nothin but a slaves to me

>>187692032
starbound is a /comfy/ game which also attracted a lot of tumblr/reddit

it really is good, especially if you know how to ignore communities and install the white only demetrius mod to soothe my pol jimmies

>>187692376
>comfy
>game
More like $5 million unplayable disaster that is only notable for its growing furry cybering and degenerate scene. It's the penultimate result of ideas guys getting a too successful kikestarter and shitting out an unfinished turd.

>>187692630
so it's the next CoC?

>>187692859
Except CoC is meant to be furry trash. Starbound was supposed to be Terraria except in space. Instead it's a collection of retarded poop jokes and reddit references that can only be made tolerable through excessive modding, and even then it's not playable.

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Don't try it, buddy. This is a bad idea.

>>187691992
they dropped heavy hints about auriga having its own quest being something they're seriously considering on G2G
about a week later we noticed the shard of the lost guardian accessory from endless legend, as well as the eyeless one quest saying they worship gods older than the endless, so it's pretty safe to say the quest has to do with auriga being a lost

also, you can only get two virtual endless, both relating to quests; the first is from the craver story quest and is a very formidable admiral, while the second is from a competitive quest where whoever can free him from his prison gets his services

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>>187693441
>cravers
but I don't want to play them, they're icky bug slavers

>>187694294
The quest thing bugged out and I somehow got Riftborn Blues part 1 as the Unfallen after I've done their final quest. Didn't do anything with it because I was already in the middle of the overcolonization tantrum spiral and couldn't afford getting another two ice worlds, especially not in the last turns of the game.

>>187692630
the majority of people who bought stardew valley would disagree

>>187694909
How is that in any way related?

>>187694956
>unplayable garbage
>is played and enjoyed by the majority of people

>>187695009
What the fuck are you saying, you retard? If you haven't noticed, Stardew Valley and Starbound are different fucking games, you lobotomized mongoloid.

>>187695095
you might hold a grudge against chuckle"phuck" but he's redeemed himself with stardew valley, it really is a great game

>>187695389
He didn't make it, you double fucktard. He only "published" it. It's made by some completely different fucker, same with Risk of Rain which was made here in /agdg/. The cunt only "published" it, god knows what that even means. I sure as shit haven't seen any advertising for it, nor have I seen any marketing whatsoever. Did he just pay the $100 to get it on steam? No fucking idea.

>>187695389
after you mod the shit art maybe

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Guys help me out I've never played this way but I'm sure it'll be fun.
I want to roleplay the Knight from spore space stage:

"Knights are noble warriors that fight for right, not for personal gain. Peace will come to the galaxy only when evil has been vanquished"

Basically conquer anyone and let them live full, happy lives under my empire or at least conquer the assholes or dangers of the universe and constantly fight to liberate, free the galaxy - but still be the good goy.

Help me choose the ethos and species traits plox.

>>187696046
>fun
>playing as a peaceful race in Stellaris
Prepare to have war declared on you for incredibly retarded reasons no matter what you do.

>>187696218
HOW is it PEACEFUL have you even read what I typed lmao.

I said some guys who want to war 24/7 but try to fight for the good cause, always liberate, always force people to stop doing bad shit and conquering some of them especially bad neighbors.

>>187693057
>IGE are you cheating, Anon?

>>187696046
fan. militarist egalitarian

charismatic
strong
slow learners

beacon of liberty (needs democratic - not sure if you want to have a democratic empire)
citizen service
idealistic foundation (instead of beacon of liberty - if you choose something other than democratic)

Does anyone still play Retribution? Community is still active if not toxic

>>187697023
Nah, just never enter the world of mods without it. It isn't safe.

>you niggers are still playing stellaris

what's the best strat for goths and does anyone understand what focus is best for chinese in AoM

>>187618986
>last stage of quest victory as vaulters in EL
>remember this guy
>remember all other shit aswell
>think about what awaits settlers in vast and unforgiving space
>load up autosave 5 turns earlier
>go for wonder victory instead

>>187695501
t. always mad at video games

>>187695495
>i hate people who hire people

>>187617448
>playing civ 6
>have friendship declared with the arabs and indians
>suddenly they declare war on me for no reason

Somehow the diplomacy is even shittier than in previous games.

>>187701740
>Civ 6
DUDE WIFI LMAO

PIGS

PENCIL

COAL MINER'S WIFE

KILIMANJARO

SWEDEN

RAPEFUGEES

Dudes, has anyone ever made a browser script that reads out every new post in a thread with the Microsoft Sam voice as they come?
Because this needs to exist

>>187706671
The thread simulator thing?

>>187706729
Kinda, but as a greasemonkey script or plugin that you can enable for a thread that'll read it out loud as it comes.

>>187699165
>think about what awaits settlers in vast and unforgiving space
Their ship explodes

>>187617448
So when does that Stellaris Machine DLC come out and this general can be alive again for a week or so?

>>187711478
I like the speed of this general. I can make post, have a tea, play a few turns in something, have a nap, go for a walk, and come back to a thread with no new replies.

>>187711831
sometimes I reply to myself just to bump the thread.

>>187711990
Same desu senpai

Dead genre.

>>187714791
Because casuals hate strategy, they can't twitch it and shit talk their opponents.

Nowadays video games are just a way to show off and bully people.
>"hurr durr look at me 360° noscoping parrying that nooblet"
Fucking normies ruining video games.

>>187711831
>I like 4chan circa 2004

Okay.

>>187714791
Not so much of a dead genre as it is that no one cares about CIV 6, CIV 5 is no longer being developed and EL, ES2 and Stellaris don't have any new DLC out right now- but this will change in the next month.

This is what happens when you don't have any new content, with M and B general being a weird exception where people keep posting in order to avoid despairing over the fact that their game is never coming out.

>>187717415
Fuck off Junko. You won't make me despair, Butterlord is coming out.

Just like The Guild 3.

>>187717552
DANGANRONPA 3 SOON WOOOOOOOOH

>>187717641
MORE DANGIT GRANDPA SPANKING ON PIXIV WOOOOT

when will the new stellaris patch drop?

>>187718508
sept 15

>>187718739
source?

>>187718803
What they say on their Patreon, right under the monthly income objective.

>>187718803
my ass

>>187718803
Check the forums

>>187717415
You're right! Even if nobody wants to make 4X games because nobody plays them anymore, that doesn't mean the genre is dead. As long as we have people here to do offtopic blogposts then the 4X genre will never truly die.

>>187720758
>nobody wants to make 4X games
So I suppose Stellaris isn't a 4X then.

>>187720758
>thread being momentarily dead means the entire genre is dead

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Heard you fuckers need a good, old 4x.

Glory to Tetracorp. Death to the Mauna and all who trade with them.

>spiderfag OP
>unique IPs drops from over 100 to barely 50
just let it die, someone less autistic can make a new thread later

>>187694416
stuff like riftborn blues aren't faction locked, you get them randomly if you have a unit of the specific major faction's population
there's one or two for every single major faction

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Post your original empire's most recent incarnation after dlc+mods

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Man, since these ES2 big updates the AI is starting to win all the time. They usually make some kind of 3 way alliance with each other and win by Science or Economic. No matter who I ally with, they don't ever actively help enough to make me be able to slow three entire factions down like this.

I'm not really complaining, it's actually pretty cool. I just have to rethink what I'm doing now because ever since these patches I keep getting to the cusp of victory and the AI will snatch it 30 turns before me. I even had to step down from endless difficulty to Impossible and i'm still losing. Kudos I guess.

>>187729364
oh, but Unfallen and Vodyani AI are still retarded. They really need to make them play more effectively. They're usually far behind everyone else and aren't active in their play at all.

>>187722919
Nah, the genre is just dead. Not everyone is as autistic as you to care about dumb stuff like that.

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>everyone is talking about the new meme game of the year
>meanwhile I'm still playing Red Alert

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>>187731592
Red Alert 2 is more competitive. It's also got Mental Omega.

>>187732034
I hate 2D isometric games. The ranges always seem fucked in these.
At same depth, I'd rather have an ugly 3D game than a beautiful 2D one.

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>>187731592
Being a fan of RTS games is suffering

>>187732465
That fucking game.

It's one of these "looks great on paper but I absolutely suck at it when I try to play it" games.

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>>187732665
Too much micro or not realistic enough?

>>187734085
Not my style of gameplay, that's all. I like to play it slow, but Company of Heroes is made to encourage rapid expansion, harassment, and bringing out the tanks quickly.
And while I can do it in Dawn of War, Age of Empires 2 or even SupCom FA, in COH, I always get countered.
>make mass infantry
>eat a mortar shell

>make snipers
>get rushed

>make jeeps to kill the infantry
>ROCKET LAWNCHAIR

>make a fucking tank
>ROCKET LAWNCHAIRS FOR EVERYONE

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>>187734474
Thats strange because slow buildup/ turtling is kinda my playstyle too and I manage to win 9 times out of 10 against hard ai

>>187735056
WELL GOOD FOR YOU
GO PLAY IT WITH A ROCKBAND CONTROLLER THEN

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>>187734474
>>187735224

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>>187735224
Calm down dude

>>187735523
Have they improved these? Last time I played them, they were really shallow.

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>>187735629
First time playing the 8-bit series games so I cant tell

>>187735846
Well, a few games will let you know. Keep playing.

Only learned it recently, but in Stronghold 2 and Legends, knights are actually stronger than swordsmen.
A bit less in the first and in Crusader, but they're always on horses in these.

>page 10
git rekt

>>187734085
I remember this game being prettier than it is in your screenshot

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>>187712631
>>187711990

>>187699165
Don't worry, they die when the ship explodes after takeoff anyway

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>>187742361
It is
I just had the graphics turned down after I retried the Blitzkrieg mod which for some reason lags like fuck

>>187736070
Alright
I did the first 2 missions of every faction and a skirmish match
I like it

>>187742823
It's pretty fun, but having only one ressources considerably limit the game's depth. It's more a matter of taking over as many gold mines as you can and then spam units.

>>187742823
Ah good.

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>>187743000
Yeah I´ve noticed that and it also kinda destroys the balance since the Invasion factions can just spread out while the Armies factions are kinda shackled to the one or two that are around their base

>>187743425
I think you can spam refinery as an army.

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>>187743572
But you still have to wait for your trucks to get the resources back to the base every time while the Invasion factions just gets a constant income after they put their unit on there

>>187744034
Yeah, but their constant income is a bit slower. Meanwhile others can spam wagons.

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>When you build so many megastructures from so many mods that you lose track of which one is which

>>187748247
That wallace works on multiple levels

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Do we know what will happen when Robot Hive Minds conquer planets with other robot pops on them?

Automatic inclusion, a la the original Hive Mind?

What about if they were mechanically ascended biologicals, so that they were individuals?

>>187748780
They're adding a borg style assimilate option in 1.8 so maybe.

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The Space Nazis solved the Enigmatic Fortress. That explains how they got so strong.

I'm going to kill them, take their tech, and subjugate their pops to my Stubborn Hive Mind.

>>187750054
Enjoy

>>187742795
>>187709191
How is that """""""""""victory"""""""""""" then?

>>187750206
>ah yes all of this money will save us when the planet completely dies in a few years
>ah yes all of this territory will save us when the planet completely dies in a few years
>ah yes all of our foes being dead will save us when the planet completely dies in a few years
The only actual victory is Wonder and even then its possible endless trickery makes it not one.

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>>187750131
Big mistake, Bird Brain.

>>187750206
>>187750381
the fact that OP-BOT survives (we know he does because there was a community contest that would decide what sort of hero skill tree he would have, as well as a recent backstory for him) means that it's also possible for the vaulters to have survived

>>187751448
Most of the backstories were about him being found floating in space though.

>>187751520
the mere fact that he survived the explosion means that other crewmen could have survived as well

>>187751683
opbot is a war robot, vaulters are meat people

>>187751801
I thought he was just a medic.

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>>187751306
Nationalistic Zeal was a pretty good choice to pair with fanatical purifiers.

Still, welcome to The Xandar, we'll gnaw on you until the genetic modification takes hold.

>>187751801
if opbot was intended to enter combat in his squad, he would be using a gun in-game
he's just a medical bot attached to ken's outfit

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>>187753101
>negative 1075 energy per turn

Is Endless Space 2 still trash?

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>>187628294
>So what are the hints that Auriga is one of the lost?
Pic related is one of them

>>187756787
no

>>187756787
much better now. Big patches fixed a lot of stupid bugs and the AI actually plays the game.

Why is it in Stellaris that as an Authoritarian empire I can't fully enslave a species, only half enslave them(caste). I could be a xenoplile/Authoritarian and use caste on xenos but I can't enslave them entirely.

Why?

>>187760792
You can fully enslave as authoritarian, what the fuck are you talking about

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>>187760884

>>187761262
sweden yes
honest answer probably a desperate attempt to give xenophobes something unique

Why are there no good games in this genre planned in the foreseeable future?

>>187764745
>AI War 2
>The Guild 3
>Veil of Crows
>The Guild
>that Victorian game
>"GUISE WHY IS THERE NO MOAR STRATEGY GAMES OR CITY BUILDER"

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>>187753629
just won a war, so I had way too many core planets.

Also, shouldn't this combination of traits be illegal?

This next Stellaris patch has me hype because after a full fucking year they're finally making missiles great again.

>>187765312
more importantly, kinetics nerf

>>187764994
I said GOOD games.

>>187765558
Only in the early game which will be surpassed by missiles anyway for their better damage and tracking.

>>187765619
>deciding games are trash before they're out
You're American, aren't you?

>>187765312
>taking Stellaris' balance claims seriously

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>>187765693

>>187765695
Literally all they needed was a means to retarget and they're getting that.

>>187760792
yeah its bullshit, I just edit it back
my prefered empire to play is authoritarian,materialist,militarist/xenophile
>>187761843
having them being the only one to go full "gas the kikes" when purging instead of just displacement would have been enough

>>187765772
>moving the goalposts
Yep, American.

>>187765917
>moving the goalposts

How does that comic move the goalposts?

>>187766220
Answer the question first.

>>187765772
>he doesn't eat shit
truly pleb

>ITT : an americafat get BTFO

>>187766424
You were asked a REAL question first

>>187770473
>moving the goalpost again
Americans, everyone.

itt: autism

>>187768458
>>187770742
Why do you repeat yourself?

>>187770865
I like the sound of my own voice

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>>187771017

>>187765695
It's very likely that they'll fuck it up and missiles will become OP, which is fine with me as long as it's not ridiculous.

>>187771575
>Paradox
>screwing up
Oh ye of little faith...

>>187756787
You shouldn't buy it yet if that's what you're asking.

>>187773359
Okay, thank you.

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reminder

>>187779318
what's this? some shitty windows tablet?

>>187779573
>implying all tablets aren't shitty

>tfw you hit late game Vodyani
>half a dozen brainwashed minor civs
>every turn one of them pumps out a pirate fleet that tries to start shit with your leecher's guard
>can't even enjoy watching combat anymore, just autoresolve everything
>can't even be bothered to evacuate and settle their systems
I did not expect 10-player galaxies to be this exhausting

>>187782315
it's rough. I autoresolve everything late game, otherwise it'd take me days to actually complete a campaign. I was just played UE and had over 12 fleets at 22/22. Too many battles to watch. It was exhausting enough just managing all of them to make sure everyone moved and took some kind of action each turn.

>>187782315
>>187782874
honestly i really do feel like ES2 is just about the best space 4x combat system when it comes to the late game and multiplayer
you have so many fleets and so many battles to get through that actually playing them out would extend the game to a frankly absurd length, but with its current system you can compress fights to a fraction of the time it would otherwise take while still retaining decent tactical input

Are we allowed to talk about Tyranny and the upcoming Bastard's Wound expansion?

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>>187784315
Why would an rpg be allowed here?

>>187784720
It's Paradox.

>>187784791
This isn't a Paradox general though. Not that I mind, talk about it if you want, we're dead anyway.

>>187784150
I think it's good that you can autoresolve and still be okay. I remember playing Ardent Mages in Endless Legend and late game was a nightmare because I had to actually play out most combat situations because you need to actually cast spells on the battlefield. Really added a fuck ton of time to the playthrough.

I still think the combat is pretty fucking confusing sometimes, I had to do my research to even understand what exactly is going on and how the cards and ranges affect each other. It does feel good when you know what you're doing in certain situations and you beat a way bigger fleet by just setting up your fleets ranges correctly against their's.

>>187784150
>>187785426
I don't play multiplayer, but wouldn't the combat in the multiplayer be way more random? You can't really guess what card your opponent will play, so you kinda just have to guess the correct ranges, right? Or just start making ships that are all 100% efficient at long range and only deploy long?

The last day of the Summer. Where are my fightabommaz, Amplitude?

so if I move the folder out of the steam directory I can use it without steam, and the game would stay in the current version right?
but how do I make the mods from the workshop work? starting from the exe inside the stellaris folder gives me an empy mods list

>>187787579
for whatever reason they mean the end of the seasonal summer? So like September 21st or something. I know, it's stupid.

Is there a roll chart for Endless Space 2?

>>187789574
You can make one, come on, I super-believe in you!

Swedes

Deder than dedth

>>187791504
I don't even have photoshop

>>187794680
do it in paint

>>187791504
>>187795426
if i wasn't about to go to bed i'd fire up GIMP and make one super quick

>>187765005
Probably, but low habitability mutation is random.

Kawaii number robots are fun
But FUCK the epitists that start on your home planet with you for whatever fucking reason holy shit
"Here is all of this food that is utterly useless to you, we will use it to overpopulate with ourselves on your planets, in turn making us grow faster giving nothing but more food"
Just let me be autist robots in peace

>>187797047
Use them as buffer population to get systems up and running, then chain gang them for manpower.

>>187797047
you completely misunderstand the purpose of minor factions as riftborn

since you have to build your population, you'll be at very low population numbers on each of your systems until about midgame; this is an issue, because it means you are always running at very low efficiency compared to what you could have (as pops with worse bonuses are always better than no pops)
however, minor factions solve this issue, as they will grow on their own and fill up your planet slots, ensuring that your systems are running at higher efficiency earlier. the epistis in specific are a match made in heaven for the riftborn, as they provide lots of food on sterile (the planets riftborn like), letting them provide for themselves with no food improvements required, while also providing a small bit of industry so they actually have something to give once they've filled everything up.
hell, they're even objectively useful when it comes time to cull them to make room for riftborn, as every single slot they were working for you means +300 manpower once it comes time to replace them with riftborn - meaning they can save you precious turns that nay have been spent generating manpower

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>there is nothing more in the portraits files
well I didn't expect shit, but not even the upper arms are fully drawed? lame, wanted to see if x specie had tentacle/wings/claws for arms and shit
fuck it, I give tits to the mammals out of boredom or something

How is civ vi guys?
The normies seems to like it.

I'm not a good player so the AI being kinda bad doesn't bother me. I love city builders so the districts appeal massively to me (rip in pieces /cbg/ ;_;). I also love the new artstyle.

>>187806659
as always, pirate it till all DLCs are out and then decide if what you played is worth the prize and buy the "full/definitive" pack

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>>187806659
Everything about it is fucking shit.

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>>187807003
>that pic
REEEEEE

>>187807003
>le funny inaccurate normie quote
As expected.

>>187807003

I have played the game just a bit when it came out. It was fun.

Every time someone talks shit about it (other than the AI complaints which are justified) is always extremely buttblasted about the quotes. Yes, they are bad. Get over it and stop being autismo prime.

>>187808274
t. Firaxis Defense Force

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>>187808794

I'm a pirate, man. I just don't get most of the hate for it.
A lot of it is MUH QUOTES autistic rage.
Who the fuck cares.

I have barely played it so I can't really say.
But it was fun.

>>187810767
Dumb phone-animeposter.

>>187810767
>I didn't play but it was fun
t. not firaxis shill

>>187810767
Dumb phone anime poster who doesn't even play the game he's defending.

>>187810767
>i never played it but it's good
So you're not a shill, you're a retard. It's worse.

>>187810976
>>187811117

>complaining about anime on 4chan

Yep, that's autism.

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>>187811176
>Defending anime
>Saying that other people are autistic

>>187811169

I said I played it you fucktard, just not much.
You guys are no better than /gsg/.

>>187811358
Let me guess, you never visited /gsg/, that's why you're an expert about it.

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>>187807003
>lets be disingenuous to make the commies look good

Haven't played Stellaris in several months, any major updates recently?

in other words is it still boring

>>187816069
next big update/dlc (synthetic dawn) is a couple weeks away so there hasn't been anything major for a while.

In other words; yes

>>187816529
>synthetic dawn

And I was just about to start a Brotherhood of Steel playthrough, nice

>>187816069
It is still boring and the next patch is not going to make the mid game more interesting by giving new mechanics or linking the exsisting ones in a logical way. Naked corvette is still a thing and will be a thing after the next patch. I do however like the change that leaders will be able to level to 10 and that the core worlds now finally need one ambassador.

>>187817025
>one ambassador

You mean governor?

>>187817025
>core worlds now finally need one ambassador.
jesus this has bugged me since day one, about time.

>>187817128
Governor then. Haven't played in a loooong time. Every race playing more or less the same and the mid game grind just keeps me from starting a new game

>>187817146
I didn't like this as well because it was far more benificial to put your planets in a sector to give them the leader bonusses rather than wasting all your leader slots.

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>>187811416
Good one, have a (you).

>>187817025
>>187817128
>>187817146
Like, one governor for all your core planets as if it was a sector, or do you mean it's mandatory to have a governor/core planet now?

>>187818227
Like one govenor for all your core worlds (basically core sector) instead of having one for every core planet separatly.

see
https://forum.paradoxplaza com/forum/index.php?threads/stellaris-dev-diary-83-%C4%8Capek-feature-roundup-part-1.1040948/

>>187818413
Nice link faggot

>>187818442
protip: add in the missing dot

>>187818551
https://forum.paradoxplaza........com/forum/index.php?threads/stellaris-dev-diary-83-%C4%8Capek-feature-roundup-part-1.1040948/ doesn't work either.

>>187818635
you're a real comedian aren't you

Lots of bickering retards lately itt. We're not that dead are we?

I spotted a new retard.

>>187818442
>>187818635
So this is what summer is like.

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/r/ing the new version of the Star Trek mod for a filthy pirate.

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>>187818871
It is.
I mean, look, the OP even invites rtsg and cbg, still dead.

I should play SC4 again some time soon. Maybe when I'm done with this shit.

>still no release date
Fuck you Wiz.

There's no piracy release of endless space 2 higher than Endless Space 2 Update v1 0 52-CODEX is there?

Is the game even worth playing with the latest patch? I really liked it, but some bugs were simply pissing me off. Not sure what the current state of affairs is.

>>187819621
Yes there is. Search harder.
And it is worth playing. Each patch actually adds and fixes shit, unlike with Stellaris.

>>187818871
The general will spring to life again when new content is released.