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Dandy Edition

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>>>187158769

Beginner's Guide
>https://docs.zoho.com/writer/published/3s2nhd0dcc35f4f504b4f91707d369ee87b9f

Steam Group
>http://steamcommunity.com/groups/guilty_gear

Make lobbies, have fun. When making a lobby, please mention region, platform, and how long you plan on keeping it open. And don't play on wifi.
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Best girl.
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my execution isnt good enough to do the missions TT
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lmao dead game
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>>187392597
Keep practicing, you can do it
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>>187395036
its literally just super canceling i suck to hard
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>>187392597
Drop the game, you won't ever be able to do it.
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>>187395896
shut up anon
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There anyone in the Asia region in these threads?

Could do with some fine anons to play with.
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>>187396647
There's an Aussie that posts sometimes. Closest to Asia I've seen.
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Order Sol sounds really bitter and aggressive. While vanilla Sol is just plain rude.
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Will April ever return?
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>>187398621
Yep, this is intentional. The thing to know about Sol is that he was really intense and hostile until about GGX, where meeting Dizzy and being confronted with the possibility that she is his daughter and that he might have killed Aria when killing Justice caused him to "apply the breaks" a bit. He was bordering on being a villain protagonist before then.

Basically Sol and Ky meeting Dizzy in GGX is the most important moment in the lore. It changed all three of them for the better.
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>>187399872
She has probably been sold as a sex slave at this point.
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>>187400190
Johnny wouldn't let that happen to his KAZOKU will he?
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>>187400190
>"Oh, you looked under the bed, April? That's bad."
>"You really should have stopped being so nosy when you had the chance."
>"You don't trust me? Don't be silly, we're friends. At least I think we are."
>April? Are you scared? You're shaking."
>"Go ahead, tell Johnny. With my cuteness, anything will be forgiven."
April will be back, she's just taking a bit of a time out.
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>>187217628
there are australian lobbies every night. come join our discord https://discord.gg/er5nGvA
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anyone here play melty?
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>>187403664
lol no
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>>187403664
I haven't in a long time, but yes. I mained Full Moon style Warcueid.
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Which waifus are beginner friendly?
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Can't you just fuse with the BB general and make some sort of arcsys game general?
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>>187404447
I've heard May is good for beginners, but still not as simple as someone like Sol or Ky. Well maybe you can try Ky, I mean, he isn't a girl, but I bet if you dressed him correctly he would look like one.
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>>187404447
Elphelt is one of the characters recommended for beginners, along with Sol, Ky, Leo, Sin, and Raven.
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>>187404642
No
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>>187404642
Nah, their's some oversensitive fags that cry if you say BB sucks or some shit, even if you do it in a GG thread.
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>>187404447
Jack-O is the easiest.

>>187404642
Take it up with /blaz/, they're the ones so opposed to it.
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Should I play Elphelt or Jam?
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Something I'm struggling with as a new player is getting out of the corner. I'm playing against my friend who's Sol and he just kind of gets me in the corner and then keeps attacking me until he gets a confirm and then I die pretty much.

What should I be looking for in how to get better at fighting against/preventing this? What are my options once I'm in the corner and he's wailing on me? I'm playing Axl, but I'm assuming this is sort of a generic GG concept
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>>187405417
Elphelt if you want big boobies

Jam if you want pointy boobies
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>>187403664
I'm poor, but not that fucking poor.
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>>187406075
Remember Faultless Defense, it pushes them back when they hit you so you can get some breathing room. Remember blitz attack. If you have some time to activate it you can repel them. Remember dead angles, if you hit with it it'll knock their ass across the screen and get them off you if the pressure is too much.
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>>187406075
This >>187406289 and just blitz shield in general, if you manage to use it correctlt then you can follow with a combo or a super that will manage to get you out of the corner.
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>>187406289
>>187406470
Will blitz shield work on gunflame/projectiles? Something he does is he does a combo into my block, gunflames, and then YRC jump aerial attacks. Should I try to jump up myself? Just keep blocking?
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>>187406687
Charged blitz should catch both of those
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>>187406075
you want to use fd to push him back so you have room to throw out a normal / iad out. Also, general rule with axl is that your dead angle is garbage so dont try to use it to much. Your dp is good tho dont be afraid to throw it out.
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>>187403664
Sometimes. I main C-Wara because I'm too much of a brainlet to play Aoko.
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>>187405417
Too many Jams around lately, go for Elphy
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>>187403664
I was going to but /v/ GG threads started sprouting just as I was became serious about grinding out matches against the MB Discord.
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Boobeh
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I am just now about to load the game up for the first time. Wish me luck /ggg/ as I may never return.
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Will S-Ko get an upgrade too if she comes back?
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>>187410815
Stick with Sol

Sol with Sol

Just in case though, you're a radio
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>>187411057
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>>187411057
Fuck outta here Freddie
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>tfw still can't IAD
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>watching Sign's story mode
>Bedman kills the fucking dog
What the fuck Bedman
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>>187414010
tfw all his effortto redeem himself with bringing everyone he killed back went to shit. I kinda feel bad for him.
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>>187413383
I don't even know how it's supposed to be done.
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>>187414593
956 input
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>>187414010
>tfw killing a puppy is the most compassionate thing Bedman has done.
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Goddamn this thread really dies when US posters aren't here.
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>>187414148
His entire plan actually got cucked. Seriously he thought he was doing something good, and was tricked with no way to fix anything now.
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>>187416987
Some of us are here. Just can't keep bumping the thread by myself
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How do I iad with stick? I just can't do it consistently. It's so easy on keyboard.
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Ky has it good, too good.
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>>187419145
The dude was a child soldier during the shittiest time in human history, cut him some slack.
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>>187419046
press up let go of the stick move the stick forward with your fingers
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>>187419145
I HOPE YOU TWO LIVE HAPPILY GOD DAMMIT
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>>187419046
You have to return the stick to neutral in between inputs.
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>>187398621
OS is also pure unga. If he gets in xrd I'm picking him.
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>>187417157
Yeah, Bedman was being used from the start. He even mentions that he had a plan to activate the Absolute World, himself. But decided to team up with Ariels because she was the first person he was ever able to have human contact with (in any capacity that they would remember him), and he considered her a friend for that reason alone. So he decided that he was going to help her because he thought they had the same goals.

GG's story mode talks a lot about what an individual defines as "the world" because what is truly important to someone will always be context specific to an individual's life and that it's difficult to morally judge one's decisions when their world is at stake, whatever that may be. It's depicted as a positive thing normally, like Ky's family, May's friends, the people Chipp protects, and so on. Bedman is an example of that taken to an extreme negative. That's what his conversation with Axl was about. Both were in a situation where the only way to get back their loved one, or their world, was to sacrifice literally everything and everyone else. Bedman was fully willing to do that, Axl learned that he wasn't after their conversation.
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>>187401071
What's under the bed?
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>>187420108
Nobody who can ever be proven to have met May, or anyone who will ever become a romantic rival for "her" Johnny.
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>>187420043
i still find it really cool on how bedmans this really nice kind of evil, where he thought that he could eventually fix all the wrongs he knew he was doing for the sake of his sister, and with his plan he was eventually going to turn everything right as it was supposed to be. but he gets fucking rocked by ariels and probably turns into one of the more sad villians i have seen in a video game story because everything goes wrong for him and not the protag.
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>>187420210
That's funny, I could have sworn I saw sandals.
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Testing some more Elphelt loops

twitchtv/hatsugi
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>>187420649
... Stop.
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>>187419613
>>187419794
This is what I'm doing. I'm doing 956 or 754, but it feels the dash is coming too slowly if it comes at all. Maybe I'm not doing it fast enough or something. Also, sometimes I fail to do a precise diagonal and end up going 6956/4754. Could that be an issue?
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How's Ramlethal even close to bottom tier? How can she be bottom tier and Millia top? This fucking characters is disgusting.
YES I'M MAD.
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>>187421175
because you can hit her swords and they disappear
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>>187420774
FUCK
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>>187421236
>Hit HS sword
>Get hit by j.S
>Die
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>>187420859
If May doesn't get giant tits in the next game I'm gonna be disappointed.
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>>187402029
I joined yesterday but work work work. Keen to get some practice against other ppl tonight.
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>>187420859
Maybe if you post some more creepy May closups I could forget a thing or two. Can you hook me up?
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Do you use your arm when you're playing stick? I find myself using arm movements when trying to do dashes/backdashes, and getting pretty sore/sloppy after I play for a while.
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>>187421436
Sometimes for 360s, otherwise no.
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>>187421416
Fuck that, we need breasts of all sizes, not a ton of cowtits
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>>187421175
lmao dude just don't get hit by the 2S
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>>187421416
>actually liking amateur sillicone boobjobs
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>>187421432
I have a few. Sure.
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>>187421692
May has the worst type of breasts, small breast.

Medium breasts are great, big breasts are great, flat is great, but small breasts? Get that shit out of my face.
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>>187421590
I guess I should try to lessen my arm movements. I find my movements get very imprecise when my arm tires out. Do you use your wrist or your fingers more?
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>>187421907
The real problem for me are the S and j.S, honestly. Occasionaly the j.HS. (and of course the obligator corner carry into vortex)
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I made an open room on PC EU, it's called "Virgin Noobs 420", pls join.
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>>187421976
I was thinking posing mode examples, but sure. Is there even a place where people post these?
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>>187422152
>angry chinese woman preparing to kill child
Aka: Typical day in China
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>>187422116
Mainly fingers.
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>>187422251
Dunno, I got a ton of them though. I think I dropped 98k in W$ already. Figure mode is addicting.
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Playing with Ramlethal online losing almost every single game having only a slight grasp of what I'm doing and what's going on but at least I'm having fun.
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I don't know about you but I'd fuck May.
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Reminder that if you haven't gotten the game down to a decent extent by 50 hours you should just give up as you will never be any good.
Free wins anyone? http://steamcommunity.com/id/ag42/
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>>187422640
That is haram, do not lewd May
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Anyone wanna play on PSN?
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>>187422870
Where?
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>>187422830
You must dragon install whenever possible. Not using dragon install whenever possible is treason. Treason is punishable by death.
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>>187423361
The only way to play Sol is to immediately go for Gold Burst and then immediately DI.
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>>187423306
Those are pretty good, but for some reason the skull on Testaments scythe is the only thing that looks a little off
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4 more days until gg gets killed by Jubei
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I love Elphelt!
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>>187423590
Don't you have your own thread to shitpost GG to death?
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Best couple.
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>>187424135
Meh.
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>>187423648
I love Elphelt's boobs!
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>>187424909
Milia can't have babbies.
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>>187422631
Are you me?
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>>187425030
I love Elphelt's Elphelts!
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I prefer Ram!
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>>187425010
What's in the pot?
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>>187425324
Oh you know... Food.
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>>187425059
Your point being?
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I think there isn't a single GG girl that I wouldn't fuck, aside from Leap.
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>>187422145
Join the fucking room. Virgin Noobs 420.
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>>187425534
But I can't run the game.
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I've started practicing patience with Ky and have a strong feeling I'm getting good at this game, since I'm downloading opponents and winning matches and not the other (usual) way around. It took only 150 hours to get decent idea on common mechanics and character tools.
Though I don't know half of the casts matchups and paniaclly afraid of fausts.
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>>187425676
watashi mo
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>>187425458
Fresh food?
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>>187426170
The freshest.
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Twin love!
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>>187425458
that young girl looks like a nice piece of fresh meat
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>>187426245
April is food right?
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>>187425876
>Though I don't know half of the casts matchups and paniaclly afraid of fausts.
That's normal. Some characters are less common than others and some are just extremely rare. I've played about 800 hours distributed between different versions and I have barely ever played against Zato-1/Eddie, for example, so I don't really know the match-up.
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PSN room when
>>187424909
Are they even together? After the whole Eddie situation Millia has been pretty luckwarm toward Zato. Doesn't help Zato has no emotions now.
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>>187426523
She's a commodity in a manner of speaking. At least some of her is, anyway.
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>>187423306
East coast! I can make a room
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Obligatory.
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>>187426660
WE'RE ONE HUNDRED PERCENT BLACK
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I obsessively noted all the words written on Zappa. Maybe I might decipher something out of this.
Flutch in den norden
Pohjola A615 suomen tasavalta
Pirkanmaa
Sibelius
Fb102 imperial attestation

Flutch In Den Norden is a novel.
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>>187426660
But who can afford such luxury?
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>>187427860
I bet she's not that expensive, she probably has a lot of customers anyway.
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>>187428421
>shit-talking the first mate's rebound
Someone's cruisin' for a bruisin'.
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>dragon install
>ik activation
>2H
lmao
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>>187428935
He almost pulled it off.
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>>187428421
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>>187429162
you don't do that to someone with burst
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>>187428935
Isn't it that jp sol that dragoninstalls almost every match? That guy is bold as hell
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>>187428935
DI never once
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So I put in a few hours in training and arcade and now I cant find a single lobby with anyone in it online(pc). Normal?
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I want to feel May's throat on my cock
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>>187429546
Lobby or room?
Lobbies are permadead.
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and some may tech for you pseudololi nerds

>>187429362
maruhan
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>trying to do Ram challenges
My hands hurt.
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>>187429681
>The other taunt could have come out thus making him vulnerable
What a madman.
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Flustered boobeh
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Anyone know what the writing on Jam's dress says? Or is it just gibberish?
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>>187422730
I TOLD YOU TTO NEVER POST THIS AGAIN YOU FUCKING FAGGOT WASTE OF SPACE I WILL FUCKING D E L E T E YOU NEXT TIME I SEE THIS
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>>187429648
Both? Lobbies are all empty and ive had one match on the ranked finder in like 30mins.
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>>187430149
Bring it, Asuka. I'll be here with Aria; waiting. And fucking.
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>>187430149
Is it because of the clipping?
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>>187430101
What writing? You mean the big 中 on her sleeves?
http://jisho.org/search/%E4%B8%AD
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>>187430395
Go to player matches, that's where the rooms are. If they are also empty, well, then I don't know what to say.

What's your region by the way?
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>>187429969
DO WHAT YE WANT CUZ A PIRATE IS FREE
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>>187430814
Do what you want because it's another pot matchup lol
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>>187429546
>>187430395
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZuyXAs-NPo#t=34s

player matches
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>>187430579
Im in the UK so EU west I guess?
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>>187430560
Sorry, have the game on console and can't find a good pic online. The texture is so muddy when you trying zooming in on the text in model mode. The text above the X.
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>>187426985
>Flucht in den norden
German novel with a Finn movie adaptation.
>Pirkanmaa
A region in Finland
>FB102 imperial attestation
Couldn't find anything worth referencing. Might just be a proof of passing the standardized exam or something.
>Pohjola A615 suomen tasavalta
>Sibelius
Pohjola is location in Finnish mythology described as "the most extreme North, a dark and terrible place". It gets referenced quite a few times by Finnish metal bands and by Jean Sibelius with his work Pohjola's Daughter.
ASTM A615 is a specification that covers deformed and plain carbon-steel bars for concrete reinforcements in cut lengths and coils.
Suomen tasavalta is Republic of Finland in Finnish.
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>>187431826
BERGELE :DDDDD
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>>187430435
do not FUCKING test me

>>187430478
because of what's refering
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>>187426978
Me too
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>face up card
Answer! No!
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I wonder if they'll announce anything GG related at TGS
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PSN room just went up, come join and help me practice these fuckin Answer iad combos

Search ID is soox

I'm east coast but just fuckin join it all right
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Does May and Baiken talk at all in rev?
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>>187432684
That's how the japanese do it.
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>>187432874
Nevermind I'm retarded. I forgot it wasn't the other way around.
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May is pretty handsome.
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>>187432774
I'm west coast, but I'll give it a try. I'll promptly leave if the delay is super noticeable.
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>>187434749
May is a girl anon
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How much of Xrd will carry over into Dragon Ball FighterZ? Like, will playing a lot of Guilty Gear help me to pick up DBZF?
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>>187434875
She's pretty handsome. Not that I'm mirin' or anything.
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>>187434945
Dumb chinstroking question. DBF is not GG.
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>>187434875
Girls don't throw anchors around like they're popeye's illegitimate child.
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Virgin Noobs 420 is now closed. It was better than expected, I managed to win a round a few times and I almost had fun.
Did anyone from here even join it?
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Who is the elphelt of blazblue
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>>187436670
What's an elphelt?
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>>187437043
A miserable pile of thirst and desperation.
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>>187437103
But enough talk?
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>>187437103
Whatacha doing playing vidya, slayer?
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>>187436670
Noel? They both have guns.
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>>187437043
A mistake with the dubious honor to be dethroned from worst girl spot by her next clone.
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>>187434945
Probably not much. The bare basics might if it has something like a gatling system and you might adapt to it a little quicker, but otherwise it's not going to be anywhere near 1:1.
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What IS unga?
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>>187442345
It's when the other guy doesn't know how to block and then yells at you for winning.
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Trying to get better. What should I work on first, learning some CS/VT loops on Ky or cleaning up my inputs?
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>>187442784
Work on both, but spend more time on your inputs. Loops will be sloppy and droppy like siberian whore if you do not practice input.
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>>187442784
The first 9 advanced Ky trials will clean up your inputs tremendously and you'll get better VT loop
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>>187442345
It's when even the person controlling the character doesn't know what they're doing and still wins. A character that can get away with just "doing stuff"
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https://clips.twitch.
tv/TriumphantGleamingEggDancingBanana
something that happened last night I thought you guys might enjoy
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>>187443756
LK the Yamcha of Guilty Gear
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>>187443756
Who the fuck cares or wants to watch anything about non-jap players? We are all ass and will only learn bad shit from watching them.
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>>187443756
>when a Sol player manages to make his character look high IQ
It's a good feel
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>>187444867
you realize a good percentage of jp top players are also mouthbreathing retards right?
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>>187444867
But Lost Soul is the best Elphelt in the world
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>>187444867
>>187445140
you also realize that a lot of the JP top players recognize western players as being nearly/the same skill now right? This isnt like a few years ago where Japan was leagues ahead of the west, it's been getting closer and closer ever since
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>>187443756
https://clips.twitch
.tv/TriumphantGleamingEggDancingBanana
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>>187445329
>>187445140
Yeah. You don't watch those guys either. And they recognize, our entire player base, to be on the same level as the Japanese shitters. Our "best" players are leagues behind the best players over there.
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>>187442345
Bulldozing your opponent by just doing shit without really thinking.
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>>187445768
post 30 seconds of you actually knowing what you're talking about
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>>187442345
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8aXOUvlyYDI#t=8m29s
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>>187445329
I'll believe this when a gaijin makes grand finals at evo
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>>187436270
You'd probably have more /vg/ players if you set it to specific.
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>>187443705
>>187445878
That doesn't work if the unga player's opponent knows how to block and doesn't panic when they're getting beat in the corner. Let's use Leo's brynhilder stance as an example, since a lot of people complain about that one. In a button mashing player you're probably going to see them mash some combination of pk and the s/hs with some d thrown in for the shield in the hopes to catch your stray hits, but their timing is going to be ass. From what I've noticed in new Leo players they tend to mash out their combo and not know a good way to end it like bt.s into rekka or even hit confirm into super, so they stop mashing for a second to throw out a shield. It's extremely easy to bait this. If you fall for some yeeyee ass shit like that or Sol wakeup DPs you need to stop complaining about unga and start hitting the shower to wash the shame off yourself.
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>>187446658
Gaijin beat last years champ that's pretty good.
Foo took out someone too but I forget who
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thinking of lerning leo so I can pretend to be jiyuna
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0G81zws4G1g&t=309s
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Where da EC room at?
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Sol is honest.
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>>187448659
Leo is honest
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>>187448575
soox for psn >>187432774
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>>187448720
True.
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EC PC room tonight?
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>>187449409
I'd be down, but it looks like Gear is busy. Someone wanna put one up?
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how do you guys IAD? I think i do mine weird
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US East Coast PC Room is up.
Room ID: 60ig
Room Password: unga
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>>187449707
I'll put it up in a minute
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>>187448659
>>187448720
It's Guilty Gear. nobody's honest. Honesty isn't the name of the game. It's about out-bullshitting the opponents bullshit. That's why it's so much goddamn fun.
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>>187449794
How does a whole millia fits into that moon?
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>>187449749
956
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>>187449794
how is jam dishonest or baiken or ky or potemkin or kum
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What's the difference between an airdash and an instant airdash?
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which character is the most comfy?
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>>187451213
Jack-O
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>>187451094
airdash
>already in air, 656
iad
>start on ground, 956 with the jump buffering the first input of the dash
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Any Faust guides out there?
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>>187451413
Bell-bottoms are pretty comfy.
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>>187451213
faust
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>>187451575
Ah, I see
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>>187450698
ya i do some bullshit that isnt that
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>>187451745
what are you looking to learn? I can't say any of them are the greatest but I know of some

krackatoa faust tech
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1_DDfRJDpLbhEySReVBJZNx5TuHTLJOYUYEaVjlDvFN4/
some matchup notes
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1gK2Do0L6eVpFORMk3gbl_SZejNZUvE5bquwvokM5FOU/

good vids
kiisha combo vid (from sign but good ideas and a lot is still relevant)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccfWIGwmy9Q
drill cancel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yd9dv1cB8b4
faust forward crawl (useful to know against players like ky)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DyiEObLnVes

reverse matchup from how other characters' gameplan against faust (just saw this now)
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1L5XHPNuMAkKZRd_mxRh3a2Mho-K0JRF_7XtK_CamyLs/
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>>187452909
Just the basics. Well, this should keep me busy for a while in any case. Thanks anon.
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How do i play better as Ramlethal?
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Closing up the PSN room

thanks to the people that stopped by, I had fun playing with you guys
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>>187453449
Thanks for the matches.I might of been ass but, it was fun.
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>>187453074
this is a good place to start then https://drunkardshade.com/category/guilty-gear/guilty-bits-xrd/

important normals:
5p, 2k, 5k, f.s, 2h, 5h, j.p, j.k, j.h, j.d
bnb
>cancel normal into item toss
>confirm into 2s, 2h, pogo, going my way
>2k 5h pogo gmw
>air combo j.k jc j.k j.s j.h

don't do raw stimulating fists unless in desperation, your dead angle is important, meter is slow to build but important, throw items but make sure you're safe, you zone and poke with normals but you're also rushdown depending on the item, learn the properties of your air moves and when to use them because faust needs all the damage he can get

https://drunkardshade.com/category/guilty-gear/guilty-bits-xrd/ for all the characters
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>>187453145
By playing Millia instead
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>>187453818
Alright, I'll check this out too. Thanks again anon.
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>>187453923
Try to avoid using his airdash, it's shit
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>>187453145
By playing superior girl I-No
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>>187455093
It's not great but it's not completely useless either. It's useful for superjump airdash out of corner, iad j.s/j.p/j.k for specific punishes, and messing around with crossups/fdc
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time in paint > time in game
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>>187453145
Play Dizzy.
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>>187450916
>baiken
basically gets alpha counters for free

>ky
corner grinders into obscured mixups

>potemkin
absolutely retarded damage

>kum
fireball pullback into mixups

>jam
Ok, you got me there, Jam seems pretty honest, but if you want to be picky cross up puffball is pretty sneaky.
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>>187453145
I recommend watching the top australian ram god LUCIA(niflheim)(vuong)
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>>187452909
krackatoa pls leave
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>>187450916
>Kum's fireball oki
>honest
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>>187457628
i'm not krackatoa nor have i spoken to him, people constantly ask for guides or bibles like the ky or chipp ones.
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>>187457840
and continuing this, i probably should have put it much later because I don't find it to be that useful a guide. nor are the images in the faust discord any help either. just watch nage https://keeponrock.in/#/?p1=nage

Been meaning to have a paste for future Fausts with questions for resources without telling them to waste their time on gay discords
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Should I look into getting a stick if I am mostly using the analog on a pad?
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There's a stealth GG thread on /v/
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>>187457776
Just block it dude
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the thread is really dead tonight despite it being US hours
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>>187460458
The East Coast Lobby is pretty busy tonight. Everyone's basically reached their next milestone with practice at the same time. So there's a lot of intense matches going on right now.
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>>187392296
But she's evil!
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>>187461256
More like neutral chaotic.
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>>187461206
i'm a little bit behind because of the tournament thing, I'll hopefully start playing in the lobbies again tomorrow night
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The East Coast PC room is closed for the night. Thanks to everyone who came by and thanks to May-anon for putting up with my crappy plays for the first half of the night.

I think the last time I touched Millia was back in Midnight Carnival as a sub, but looks like I'll be playing as her again for a bit. Not the worst on again-off again relationship she's ever been in, I suppose.
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>>187460178
>Should I look into getting a stick if I am mostly using the analog on a pad?
Only if you try it and it feels better for you. Honestly, use whatever feels best for you
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>>187460205
Which pulls you back closer to Kum for his high/low mixup.
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Someone post the "easiest to hardest" character tier list.
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GGs EC PC room. Great fights, especially against Winged Hussar and Jam anon's Millia. Also if the other Leo/Ky anon is around, got any tips for my Leo? I've been looking over my replay data and trying to improve. Definitely gotta drill it into my head to use YRC more, and the big sonicboom, and to work on my overall execution, still pretty ass at IADs, throws, and I noticed I dropped a few combos when the delay dropped since I usually practice around 3-4.
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>>187460178
Yeah if you want, I personally can't play on pad so stick works out way better for me and led to a lot of improvement in execution. You won't magically get better without practice but it can open some new doors. I would probably be better on a pad now as I'm much better at the game than when I started but it's a 360 pad and not great for precise stick or dpad movements. I can't spend too long on DS4 controllers playing with the dpad either because it's just not comfortable for my left thumb.
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>>187462375
>>187462970
GGs to all, especially DOOMP, Anti-Air, and Shoebox.

brb gonna spend the next week practicing grabbing Leo out of crossup Zweite on reaction.
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I wish Millia had a better green color scheme. The only two are either too washed out or mostly white.
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>>187461206
>Everyone's basically reached their next milestone with practice at the same time.
I really felt it. That May just got me in the corner and it was like being in vietnam. Got a good list of stuff to practice for next time though.
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>>187464593
>Everyone's basically reached their next milestone with practice at the same time.
everyone except for me
I feel so left behind honestly, and it's such a shitty feeling, just because I started getting serious later than everyone else
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>>187456736
Sol is honest

Prove me wrong
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>>187464842
Don't feel bad, most of the reason I wasn't left behind in the dust tonight is because I switched to Millia, but Jam's rushdown helped prepare me. Trust me, all it takes is one good night for things to click and you'll spend a week blazing ahead of your own expectations.
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>>187464842
Don't feel too bad about it, there are still a lot of monstrous players out there that can kick the entire lobby's ass without breaking a sweat. Besides, when you're still new-ish you make progress like crazy because you're still getting the fundamentals down.
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>All this East Coast talk
I'm kinda jealous of your little community. Don't see west coast lobby posting as much and when I do, it's usually during when I'm doing homework or after it has closed
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>>187465305
Well imagine being EU like me.
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>>187465305
East Coast vs West Coast tournament when? We need someone in like Kansas with google fiber to host.
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>>187465037
Sol is unga to make your opponent block everything unit you YRC Gunlame, run up and Wild Throw.
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>>187465441
>/fgg/ has a huge EU population
>/ggg/ is dead during EU hours
what's up with this?
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>>187465441
Do you wanna pool our money together, move to New York and rent an apartment so we can play video games with strangers from an anonymous imageboard?
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>>187465265
>>187465301
i'll try not to, I still haven't full decided on who I want to main either, it's a huge issue, what made you guys choose who you play?
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>>187465305
I feel your pain dude. Even though my friends and I have been on BB lately in anticipation for Jubei, I've wanted to hop in a WC PS4 room but they always pop up when it's inconvenient
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>>187465608
An East versus West team tournament would be pretty cool. We'd settle once and for all which lobby has the better regulars
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>>187465673
How much do you have?
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>>187465852
$157.63
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>>187466025
Well I have like 130 euromoneys so this ain't gonna work.
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>>187465812
>tfw play Ky
West, you have my GREED SEVER
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>>187466202
Damn. Maybe we should take out loans as capital for this investment. We'll be able to pay them off when we inevitably win EVO, right?

No, you're right. This isn't going to work.
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>>187465767
All aesthetics.
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>>187466362
Oh well, we can always play the lottery.
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>>187465767
Well I'm actually a long time Sol main. And I mean since 1999 in GG1 long. I always switched out my subs growing up to the point where experimenting on whomever I felt like at the time while having a solid anchor to return to was the normal way to learn the game. As a result I tend to not put much focus on my main beyond being a benchmark for what I like in a character. In my case I'm a hopelessly aggressive player, with a tendency to take reckless risks for the hell of it. So I stick to subbing Rushdown characters like Jam or Millia.

Basically, don't worry too much about "deciding" a main. It almost kind of feels like they'll choose you at the right time, rather than you choosing them.
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>>187465767
I'm a masochist, a faggot, and terrible at the game, so the choice was obvious
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GGs to the EC PC lobby. I'm the guy who plays Baiken, but never really posts (Baiken or otherwise).

I'm a bit late in posting this but I had to duck early to prep for work. That was a scary Milia. I need to figure out how to control the pace of the match more against highly mobile characters.
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>>187466753
Raven?
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>>187466532
>>187466749
>>187466753
I tried to decide on aesthetics, and I like too many characters, I can't decide on playstyle since I don't know what I want due to being new to fighters
i'm just stuck
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>>187466939
Those were some intense matches, GG. All you really had to do was catch me in the air once with a tatami or an air dust and half my health is gone.

I haven't played Millia in so long. But I feel like spending the last three weeks powering as Jam helped put me in the mindset to utilize what I remember about her. My next step is definitely starting fresh with her normals. Specifically which ones are jump cancel-able. I know she has a lot of them, but the only one I remembered was 2HS and I didn't even use it.
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>>187467109
probably the best way to decide a main would to make a list of characters you wanna try, and then watch people play them while you do their trials to see if you will like them. eventually you will find a character that should speak out to you that you wanna stick with. good luck anon!
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>>187467263
yeah, so far i watched all of the evo guilty gear 2017 stuff, combo breaker, etc
the issue is not every character is played
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>>187467178
>I haven't played Millia in so long.
The way you were rolling around with your grab shenanigans made me think you play her quite often. GGs there. You also caught me a lot with the surfboard; gotta remember to see if I can react and red parry that.
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Is Baiken worth picking up in Rev 2? I remember playing her in the older games but dropped her for Kliff because I thought blocking everything was starting to cause bad habits.
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>>187467320
If you need high-level match footage Mdsilva is you guy. He clips sets from the Mikado stream and puts them on youtube.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCgCAvdE5VZ1on9dTo-q3FCQ
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>>187467320
Mdesilva's youtube has playlists for every character if there's someone in particular you want to see played.
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>>187465672
Less talkan, more fightan
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>>187468442
From the perspective of someone who was completely new to GG in May/June, it feels like an uphill battle.

She has potential I think. You just need persistence.Then again, I am a masochist who doesn't mind getting bodied time and again.
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>>187468742
>>187468738
Or you can not be a pleb and go straight to Jonio's channel, which is where Mdesilva gets everything. He is streaming literally every goddamn day, and its non stop top players doing their thing.
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Can I get good on pad with this controller? The dpad feels so weird to me for some reason.
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>>187468442
>>187469030
If you have fun with her, do it, but in all honesty she is just not very good in Rev 2. Although if you learn her now, and she gets better in the future, you'll have a head start with her.
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>>187469035
If you're looking a particular character, it's a little more tedious to sift through 7 hours of a stream that might not even have anyone playing who you're looking for.
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>>187465441
you can still host lobbies at reasonable hours like 7-11pm or later. make it a regular thing and eventually people will show up. start off public and eventually you could build a network of players that host lobbies for each other, maybe not from /ggg/ most of the europeans on 4chan seem to like streamboaring capcom too much
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>>187467767
I'm not really sure it's a good idea to parry it but I haven't seen any footage of Baiken playing Millia. You probably have a better bet fuzzy blocking and FDing than risking parry.
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>>187469035
you can twitch, youtube, or keeponrock.in
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>>187469191
That's always the prerequisite for characters like her. I play her mainly for her ability to parry (very hard to do consistently online; she is more fun at locals), but I'm used to playing lower-tier characters myself.

When I first played fighting games in 2009, I picked up Gen as my first character in SF4 on a pad and stuck with him through USF4. It's all about personal preference and how much you like the gimmicks/aesthetic of the character.

If the dude is all about Baiken, he can probably become a decent Baiken.
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>>187465812
What if I join EC lobbies but I'm not really EC?
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>>187471474
you're garbage and should be avoided unless you get at a maximum of 4f with everyone
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>want to practice fighting games
>need to study japanese at the same time
I really want to improve but I only have so much time in a day and honestly studying the language is something I need to prioritize more than gaming
it sucks
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>>187473192
you can play for funsies
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>>187473552
I want to get to the skill level to play competitively though
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>>187468442
Ok I've seen this picture a lot of times and I want to ask, is this cropped or an edit? Because I've searched around and I haven't found any versions with cum in them.
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>>187473192
Why do you study japanese
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>>187474000
because I think it's a fun language and I consume a lot of japanes media
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>>187474389
>it's a fun language
I see we have different definitions of fun
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So, why is Answer Ram?
>small, janky hurtbox
>strings long chain of small hits
>Resshou has to be IB'd to punish, just like KPP and they both like to end combos/blockstrings with these
>puts crap on the screen for space control/limit opponent's movement
The only difference is that Answer is better than Ram in neutral and Ram is more oppressive in the corner.
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>>187429336
He must have gotten excited and had sloppy inputs and didn't double quarter circle to use it right out of activation. IK has the invincibility to run right through bursts.
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>>187465812
EC would blow up WC /ggg/
I know this because your Ky player is better than any of us.
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>>187477612
WC has the god Elphelts.
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>US goes to sleep
>thread dies
Makes the noggin' go joggin' huh
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>>187477612
Which Ky?
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>>187479614
anti-air. I'm just a baddie who loves this game, first fighting game I'm trying real hard to get better, but he has bodied me dozens of times in a row before.
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>>187479787
Funny thing is I'm not actually EC, but I wanted to join lobbies going on to see all the players and help new ones especially. Also just I started playing this game in Jan and am working super hard to become a strong player. Seriously though, anyone on PC that knows my steam feel free to add me and ask for games/help.
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>>187479339
>spontaneous threads that can't perpetually support themselves
>kicked out of /v/
Really jiggle joggles my mingling mongler.
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>>187480250
I already have you added. I'm the shitty Slayer who has the idea that I have to rushdown in the game. I don't have it in my sights yet to become some great player, but I want to be able to be at a good enough level to at least somewhat compete with strong players, and be a threat at monthly locals.
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Remember to practice your Kum kick loops friends
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>>187480925
Nah man you aren't shitty; everyone has their own play style and works with it. Hell I've played against slayers that used him like a grappler and pushed my shit in. Just work your way up and figure out options you can use in situations both offensively and defensively. I'll help you out friend, no worries.
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Any tips on timing the air dash for Baiken's dust loop? I can do IAD tatami, kire tatami, and tk yozansen but I only get the air dash like 1 out of 10 tries. I feel like I'm struggling because I can't tell if I'm inputting it too quickly or too late. Also, what's a good corner combo for if you can't do the dust loop?
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>>187445463
thank you my good man, at least someone knows how to link clips
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>>187456736
>pretty honest
>shadowstep RISHINSHOU vortex
i wish my boy Yeastie was here to body you all jam player wannabees
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>>187482408
>what's a good corner combo for if you can't do the dust loop?
You better learn that dustloop, and send them to the corner when you can't. That's where Baiken gets her big girl damage.
I learned it visually by first air dashing right before I hit the ground, and through practice, was able to transition that to natural timing and feel.
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>>187482914
Literally no one in GG is "honest", but it's still a pretty balanced game. Makes it really enjoyable for me.
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>>187456736
> jam
> honest
> instant air dive kick
> command dash with invincibility and cross up that can be yrc
> her fully charged special with safe full screen moving hitbox, safe fast standing overhead, safe dp
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>>187482952
Thanks for the tip, I'll practice that tomorrow after I get some sleep. Just to make sure, I should be trying to time the air dash as late as possible for her dust loop?
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>>187482408
It's pretty much right when the canon folds back up, watching a video of it might give you a better idea of how it's done
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7bPsmxejfyI
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>>187483169
I'd say practice it for 5-10 minutes before you go to sleep, since doesn't the brain retain info better that way?
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>>187483151
> instant air dive kick

It's hella fucky without resources, kara geki is faster and gives better rewards.

> command dash with invincibility and cross up that can be yrc

Press a low-hitting button

> safe full screen moving hitbox

Press 6p. Hitbox ain't even that great.
https://twitter.com/Pielo_Ok/status/901111465402388480

>safe DP

No such thing senpai, unless she cancels it into MAX Geki and then she's blowing two hard to obtain resources to just stay unpunished. Which also means she's fucking up.

>safe fast standing overhead

It's unreactable actually if kara cancelled from her command dash. Only MAX version is safe tho and it's mostly used against lightweight characters since it makes them easier to combo.
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Which returning character would make the most people mad online?
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>>187488758
Testament.
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>>187470338
>you can still host lobbies at reasonable hours like 7-11pm or later. make it a regular thing and eventually people will show up.
I was meaning to do that but I've been busy lately, I'll definitely get around to it more regularly from today on. Maybe we can build an european /ggg/ community

>>187467767
Haircar is -13 on block so even if you just block it you'll get a fat punish
You're probably sleeping right now but whatever
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>>187489571
Also I think that there's just not much to discuss for us Euros. As far as I know most of us are not new to the game so we're not asking questions and creating topics of discussion
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>>187488758
Order sol if they give him sidewinder
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>>187488758
bridget because """"she"""" can just run away
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>>187488758
Bridget. Time out matches are the worst.
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>>187483798
hecka*
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These are some real EU hours I tell you what.
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>>187462085
She was literally created by humanity's hope for a better future. Which is why she keeps going back in time to fix things up.
She's lawful good and the purest, kindest and the most beautiful girl in the game.
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>>187489308
*sound of trees popping*
*laughs in cuck*
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>>187498715
Lawful good my ass, she's chaotic good.
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https://clips.twitch.tv
/PiercingFlirtyCoyoteFunRun
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>>187499173
>>187426848
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>>187498715
We know it's you I-no, stop posting
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I have a friend who just started playing GG, who is the best character to force him to stop mashing in the corner? He has this bad habit, he just refuses to block. I'm relatively new too, so I'm not familiar with all the characters.
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>>187501086
Faust and poke the shit out of him? Or maybe someone with fast frame data to out unga him?
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>>187501086
Ky, Sol, Sin, Faust if you wanna big dick normals that will destroy his will to mash. Filling his ass with projectiles is also a good way to make him reconsider his tactics.
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Any tips on holding the stick from people who can do IADs/dashes on both sides consistently? I watched a few videos and thought the grip gootecks shows off in this vid was pretty comfortable:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXP0kc9Sry8&feature=youtu.be

My only problem with it is that while doing dashes/IADs to the left is pretty natural with this grip, doing them to the right is very awkward. I might just have big hands, but I have to physically shift my hand downwards in order to use my fingers to dash to the right, otherwise I'm using the curve of my hand and my dashes come out really sloppy or not at all. It's a pretty big problem since having to shift my hand makes doing my regular motions a pain since I have to shift it back to do them, otherwise I'm dropping my right dashes if I try to keep it anchored in the usual position. Should I keep at it? Is it alright to be constantly shifting my hand position, or should I look into another grip?
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>>187501535
>>187501567
I think Sol will do, his gunflame seems fitting, thanks lads.
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>>187502298
Ky and his grinder hs fireball will make the statement a lot more clearly.
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COCONUT
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Fresh figure mode OC inbound.
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>>187502813
Does Sol DI during sex?
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>>187503310
See
>>187422730
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>>187503310
Yeah, and Aria turns into Justice.
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>>187449794
A-axl is honest
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Anyone EU PC want to play?
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>>187503530
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>>187503602
But I can't run the game.
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>>187502813
that's it
see me this fucking instant

>>187503602
i can play a few
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>>187503856
steam://joinlobby/520440/109775244320781271/76561198046598671
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>>187503487
>>187503490
But does he do it in mid-penetration?
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>>187503937
Only when he let's it out. Inside every time. Obviously.
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>>187503530
>Axl
>honest
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>System voice Zato-ONE
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>>187504820
>>187503617
Yall just mad you cant run your bs as easily on him
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>>187505341
He's an obnoxious faggot that is unfun to play against, moreso than every other character. I'd rather spend 100 hours playing against Leo than one match against Axl.
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>>187502076
pls respond
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>>187506528
As someone who lost 20 straight games to Leo just yesterday, I really thin you should reconsider this sentiment
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>>187506528
At least Leo is somewhat linear and easy to deal with, Axil is straight up not fun to play against from certain characters' perspective
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>>187506528
That doesnt have anything to to with beign honest tho
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>>187506695
Been playing regularly since Sign's console release and stand by my statement. No character is as annoying to play against than the WAHOO man of chains.
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>>187507096
Who do you play?
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>>187507015
Virtually every character has to completely change their gameplay against Axl; his fundamental design is inherently dishonest.
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>>187507229
May.
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>>187507256
The only thing they have to change is actually playing nuetral instead of just dash and mash coinfip rushdown and mixups all day.
>>187506975
>>187506528
Unless you play pot i dont feel bad for you
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>>187507096
I play I-no and I wholeheartedly support that statement.
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>>187508016
I feel your pain fellow I-No bro
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>>187507256
i can tell you that millia chipp and jam,don't have to change shit vs axl
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Axl is easy to beat. All you have to do is get some blocks and reads
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>>187507963
Against Ino, all Axl has to do is block notes and hit 5P sometimes. She can't approach at all. Jack-O similarly gets shutdown and having her level 1 and 2 goons die in one hit now makes the MU even worse than it was in Rev. Set a house and try to approach? Rensen fucks you. He can tag houses from anywhere on the screen and you can't do shit about it. The game would be better without his faggot ass in it, period.
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>>187508652
This

Playing Chipp vs Axl is actually really really easy

Playing Chipp vs almost any character is actually really really easy
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>>187507384
>>187508652
Thing about Axl is how polarizing his matchups are. Like seriously you have to give a round of applause to good solo Axl mains, cause that shit fucking sucks when you play a bad mu.
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>>187508652
Hence the "virtually"
But wow, 3 characters? That only leaves 22 who have to change their entire game to fight one obnoxious faggot.
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>>187509009
yeah bro let me just read that sparrowhawk keeping me fullscreen while there is no realistic way of getting to the other side and if i get a lucky knockdown he just bursts or mashes reversal
fucking axel apologists
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>>187509281
feels good when you bait a chipp to teleport and then hit him with a bomber loop and he fucking dies in 1 combo
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>>187509376
superjump fd
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Ram is the most poorly designed GG character of all time.
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>>187509685
Raven*
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>>187509685
ur the most poorly designed GG character of all time
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>>187509685
You misspelled Dizzy
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>>187510056
smug robot
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>>187509685
>>187509764
>>187509858
*Bridget
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>>187509071
It does suck that 5p is so effective for her but once you get in you can just mix his ass up to death no problem and i dont personally have experience against jackos but it cant be that unwinable because an axl in the discord was talking about losing to one in tourney
>>187509376
Sparrowhawk goes away once he misses once and he has to guess to hit you with it just be patient

Really wasnt trying to pick a fight with the whole thread
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>>187506695
Have some anti-Leo tips
Practice IBing the first hit of Leo's rekka and make him eat shit for being too predictable
He can also be thrown out of his crossup run (236H)
When he's in his stance on your wakeup block low by default and see if he side switches or does his 18f overhead, with practice and awareness you can mash out of those options
Many beginner Leos do bt.K > bt.S > bt.H, if you blocked the bt.K successfully you can interrupt the bt.H
Generally try and keep your composure and you'll avoid getting mauled
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>>187502076
Use whatever grip is most comfortable for you, senpai. It's fine if you shift your hand around while playing. I usually hold my stick between my thumb and the first nuckle of my indenx finger but when I do motions like 236 or 623 I shift my grip up on my fingers and over the top of the ball and then when I do motions like 214 or 421 I grip the stick deeper in the curve of my palm. For IAD I think you should use a loose grip so you can tap 9, release the stick completely so it bounces back to neutral, then tap 6. There's no shortcut for doing it, your taps have to be quick and precise and you have to let the stick return to neutral, if you don't do those things then you're not going to be able to consistently IAD. Just go into training mode, turn on input display, and practice doing it slowly in both directions and ramp up your speed as you get more comfortable doing it.
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If Rev 2 got a balance patch, what are some things you would want changed about your characters?
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>>187510287
This is all true and once you get used to IBing Leo he becomes so much easier to deal with

But playing online against a Leo in 3-4f of lag is really hard. It's way way harder to throw him out of or even react to his crossup and he can get away with way more because you aren't able to properly defend
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>finally get this game to play with my friends
>playing against them I have unstable 5-7F of lag

feels pretty miserable. is there any character i can use to take advantage of this?
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>>187510815
Johnny nerf slightly, raven nerf slightly, answer and baiken buff
that's about all i can think of really, the game is pretty balanced
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>>187511426
G R E E D
S E V E R
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>>187510264
The Jack-O MU is like 9-1 in his favor. The guy complaining likely didn't have any experience or played someone like Purepure. She has no way to approach at all. If she tries to jump over Rensen, 2P, or 2H and goes for jD to cover air approach, he can either go for a followup to Rensen (trades even if she has meter for the 3 projectile version and she gets knocked back, putting her back in the position she was in to start) or he recovers fast enough from his whiffed 2P/2H to jump and tag her with jS (I think that's his air to air). Even if she does get in on him and scores knockdown, burst/DP is all it takes for him to push her back far enough that she will struggle to get back in. The dynamic of the fight effectively makes her gimmick entirely useless. I've got a couple guys I play with regularly who use Axl and Jack-O, so I've seen it played out tons of times; he completely fucks her. It's at a point where the Jack-O player is considering dropping her.
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>>187511180
>But playing online against a Leo in 3-4f of lag is really hard. It's way way harder to throw him out of or even react to his crossup and he can get away with way more because you aren't able to properly defend
That's why you avoid 4f connections unless you're on PC
One day those damn japs will adopt rollback netcode
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>>187511579
If that was a 9-1 matchup that would be one of the most unbalanced matchups in fighting game history. And people say this game is balanced lol
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How do I fight Johnny? His shit is fast as hell and goes through half the screen.
I'm a newbie.
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>>187512297
what character do you play?
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Did people hate axl this much im +r as well? Also, why does everyone want bridget back shouldnt she be just as frusterating to play against
>>187511579
I dont have any knowledge of the mu i dont know / play against any jackos doesnt her shield thing stop rensen tho? I thought it stops projectiles
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>>187512407
Jam.
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>>187512030
Outside of a couple of MUs (Axl-Jack-O, Axl-Ino), it is balanced. Those few MUs are the exception rather than the rule. Coincidence that they're both against the WAHOO man of chains? Nah, he's just an unfun fucking faggot
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>>187512563
sounds like you can't stopping jumping vs axl
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>>187512484
Aegis shield can stop Rensen, but I don't think it stops the follow ups. Regardless, he can tag houses with 2P/H and sparrowhawk. And can hitconfirm from either of those to stuff air approaches.
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>>187510815
Give back Lightning Javelin
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>>187512935
True but those normals are slow so if hes trying to break the houses couldnt you just iad in and hit him with stuff? Im not saying your wrong or anything about the mu beign bad i dont think jacko,or ino, are 9-1tho im just curious
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>>187512563
>>187512684
>>187512935
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>>187512510
well i don't know much about jam but johnny gets all his damage from frame traps. just make sure to not press a button until you know you can beat whatever hes doing
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>>187512563
He just has the proper tools to make those MUs awful, because of the way those characters play. That's why when you play Axl, who has shit mobility, and play against a character like Chipp or Millia it's also polarizing as hell. Part of the game my man, better get used to it.
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>Venom looks interesting af from videos
>play episode
Welp, back to looking for main because it will be Rev 5 before I can do anything interesting with him. It looks like making masters from geometry
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>>187469041
I cam here to ask that too, do these controllers dpad feel the same as the sega ones?

Also is there a way to get PS3/4 controllers to work on GG PC?
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>>187513552
jej
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>>187510815
I'd want them to give Answer more ways to build meter. His tools with meter aren't even all that good, but yet he barely ever has meter to use them in the first place. I'd also want them to change his supers so that they either have bigger hitboxes or are easier to combo into. As they are now, they're nearly useless considering how little damage they do and how difficult it can be to combo into 2/3 of them. Aside from that, maybe a way for him to convert air combos into a hard knockdown. Maybe decrease the startup/recovery on his scroll placements.

I'd want them to change Chipp's gamma blade back to the way it was before.

Raven should be reworked in a lot of different ways. Make his oki not so braindead. Make his ways of building excitement meter an actual risk that he has to take, instead of him building it over the course of a round just from doing regular bnbs.

Give Bedman back his 6HS

Make Ramlethal's newer Rev 2 special moves actually worth a shit

Baiken should have ways to play neutral besides TATAMI GAISHI TATAMI GAISHI TATAMI GAISHI. Her 6HS should be scarier. Give her better anti-air options. More combo options when she's midscreen. Decrease startup on Kabari (the horizontal/diagonal hook thing).

Pot's 2S should vacuum again.
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>>187513805
It's just sticks and balls nigga
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>>187515249
>Raven should be reworked in a lot of different ways. Make his oki not so braindead. Make his ways of building excitement meter an actual risk that he has to take, instead of him building it over the course of a round just from doing regular bnbs.
Unironically agreed, the biggest thing I wanted since playing in Rev 1 was to not have autopilot oki, make pain stance not a meme, and have some variety. Instead they managed to make Raven even more autopilot by rewarding me for turning my brain off.
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>>187503602
I want to play but I want to sleep too.
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>>187512030
it is borderline impossible to get in but if you do you easily keep that faggot in the corner
i got a round off one axl because he got cheeky and got close

>>187512484
yes but it doesn't stop sparrow stance (which is the biggest problem)
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>>187515249
>>187515535
The issue here is that back in Rev 1 building excitement was very risky (as to get a meaningful amount you had to use stance), but because he didn't need excitement for his gameplan to work good players just didn't bother with it at all.
People complained that the excitement gimmick wasn't as integral to the character as it was intended to be, so the solution they came up with was to make excitement easier to build in exchange for making it degrade really fast. The result is that excitement is more important, but still doesn't really require any management or thought.
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>>187513476
I don't think the Jack-O player knows how to IAD. When he does jump dash over the 2P/Hs that hit the houses, the Axl cancels into bomber or DP. Admittedly, the Jack-O player is newer while the Axl and I have been playing since Sign. I play May and don't have as hard a time, but it's still an annoying MU for me.
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Where my Larvas at? C.S S Cr.S fireball feels so fucking nice when it hits. Now I just need to get my reactions up for the anti-air combo. Fucking 6-9 delay doesn't help.
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>>187515573
Doesnt hitting her houses count for staying in the stance?
>>187516076
Can you cancel 2p/6h into dp? And even if you can cant you just fd block or blitz it?
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>>187515573
>>187516548
Ment to say does not doesnt sorry
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>>187515969
>tfw back in Rev 1 my friends kept calling me "best Raven in NA" and "literally the only Raven to use pain stance and not immediately die"
>because no other Ravens ever used pain stance, randoms didn't know how what the fuck to do and would scramble to not fall apart

watching random Kys and shit hand me full excitement+tension and then mistime their reversal baits was magical, Rev 2 Raven just isn't the same
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>>187469041
>>187514601
I've used those madcatz controllers for a long time and while I love the d pad on them, I don't like using it for GG. I feel like there's a delay with moving the dpad in any direct opposite motion on the axis.

For example, if the d pad is not being pressed in any direction but then you need to suddenly do a 2D, there's a delay between pressing down and the d pad being pushed down enough to register that input. Most likely you'll end up with a 5D in that situation.

I tested this myself offline with three different pads of the same kind (I have three of the original SFIV Madcatz pads along with two of the micro pad versions from SFxT). All had the same issue with the d pad. I know it tends to be overrated, but I use the Hori Fighting commander pad. The D pad could feel a bit better by being raised like the buttons are, but it's still one of the most accurate input d pads I've ever personally used. Although the real draw to it is the face buttons.
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>>187516548
He can continue sparrowhawk if he tags a house. I think he can cancel into DP from those moves; either that or he's perfectly timing it after the recovery. FD or blitz should catch it. I think the Jack-O player is so used to using jH as a jump in that he doesn't consider those options. I'd have to mess around with it and see if I can get him to adjust some things.
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>>187517089
Can you link the page you got it from? I'm paranoid about buying the wrong version. I've heard that a new one came out a month ago but it seems like the US store isn't supplying it yet.
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>>187517082
How does pain stance work? I played a raven in lobies before you used it on all my normals and i wasnt sure what was happening.
>>187517227
Also, yrc in nuetral is a good way to make it hard for axl to tag you
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>>187515571
Just play Bedman
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3 more days until CF2 kills guilty gear
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>>187520553
>tfw too much of a brainlet to get good at more than one fighting game at a time
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>>187519075
>214K to go into pain stance I think,so much is muscle memory I often forget what I'm actually doing
>while in pain stance you have super armor (but can still be grabbed) and all damage taken is converted into temp damage, which gets slowly recovered if you don't take damage for a while
>you gain excitement in stance, how much per hit often feels arbitrary, but generally multihits = max excitement
>offhand, all you can really do OUT of stance is roman cancel it (dodgy in my experience, but I must have done something wrong) or "reversal super"
>if you try to do stance on wakeup/reaction you'll see usually just see "REVERSAL!" flash on the screen, and the stance pose for a split second, before getting knocked out of it and counterhit, because the startup is deceptively long
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>>187518963
Sure thing.
>https://www.amazon.com/HORI-Fighting-Commander-PlayStation-Officially-Licensed/dp/B01GVOFIAA/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1503946429&sr=8-1&keywords=hori+fighting+commander+4
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>>187520945
>tfw too much of a brainlet to get good at one fighting game
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>>187521652
Me on the left
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>>187510815
Bring him back. Also May's anchor should not have hurtboxes just like any other weapon in the game (afaik).
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>>187522234
just about every weapon in the game has hurtboxes
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>>187522234
Ky's sword has hurtboxes
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>>187521413
And you stay in stance until it is canceled or your thrown out?
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>>187522234
Genuinely interested in how he'll play like if he gets included and most likely streamlined.
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>>187523123
>he
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>>187523290
Yes anon it's a boy
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>>187523290
Considering the time past since the previous game he's been in he's probably gonna be a big buff dude. He never wanted the trap life, it was forced upon him.
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>>187523551
May.
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>>187523661
Yes anon May is gonna return as a buff dude too
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does this exist now or is this a meme
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>>187524567
U wot
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>>187524756
I want to facefuck I-No.
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>>187525113
>not anal
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>>187525336
I can facefuck her ass too.
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I made a PC EU open room, it's called "Virgin Noobs 420", pls join.
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>>187525820
Stop making it an open room you retard
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>>187526106
>make a closed room
>no one from here joins it and I spend an hour just sitting there like a retard
>make an open room
>no one from here joins it, but at least I have a chance of playing a few matches against joining randoms
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>>187525820
Any reason you don't set these to specific? I usually can't find them when they're open.
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>want to play Baiken
>at the same time dont want to put time into a character that will give barely any reward for the effort put in, compared to other characters
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I can't believe Bedman is fucking dead
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>Over 50 hours logged on Steam
>Over 50 played on the pirated version
>Still can't do basic shit
I'm tempted to start practicing the game on a dummy account with Steam Family share so I don't seem too shit for my hours played.
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>>187529165
It was about 100 hours in before I started getting shit down at all too. Now I'm about 500 hours in and pretty decent.
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>>187528985
It's anime. They'll come up with some half-assed reason to bring him back.
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>>187529165
I have 40 hours in the game and I have bouts of despair every time I see someone do air combos or basic confirms into super. If my friend didn't play GG I'd drop this game immediately - way too much effort required for minuscule reward.
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>>187529683
I can't wait to play as his sister. I'm more curious about Jack-O standin.
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>>187529661
>>187529968
I still don't even know how to block. All I really do is spam Stun Edge and f.S/j.S hoping for a knock down so I can do a grinder setup.

Also VT/Ride the Lightning on wake up if I get knocked down.
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>>187529165
>been playing for about 50 hours
>still fuck up basic shit like quar circle and dp motions
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
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>>187530340
>100 hours in total
>cant block
did you play the tutorial?
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>>187529165
It can't be help. At least you know that you're not as shit as you were yesterday.
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>>187530291
Jack-2.0
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>>187529165
>Got game almost 2 months ago
>Watched the story and played maybe half characters through Episodes and still haven't picked main to train.
>Browse here almost every day
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>>187530291
I just went through the story, will Jack-O come back like Ram did or will she disappear with Aria becoming whole? I'd prefer Jack-O to remain an independent character than become Aria and cease to be.
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>>187530635
>I don't even have the game
>still browse here every day
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>>187530663
They'll just do Nightmare Bedman and Nightmare Jack-O like Tekken does with Geese.
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>>187530440
Yes, and I can block on the tutorial. I can go to versus against the AI and just block attacks when I'm not trying to get hits in, but when I go to an actual match I fail to block literally anything that isn't 100% obviously telegraphed.
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>>187530814
you know you should be basically holding back constantly if you're on the defensive
are you saying you cant block in general, or you're just bad at blocking 50/50's?
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what the fuck nyarl use your fucking shadowstep what are you doing man abuse that shit
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>>187530635

Play Jack-o. She's fun. Maybe not the best option, but she's fun to play as.
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>>187531635
>like her looks, movement, buttons, specials
>hate the house shit
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>>187530814
>>187530905
I think he means he doesn't know how to defend against setplay/frametrap mixups and then tries to rely on reversals for everything. That comes with experience, and I also play Ky and when it comes to neutral everything will seem weird and out of place when you start playing against people. It's a little too complicated for me to teach to you right here, but I really recommend reading the kyble and watching how players position and what they use to to counter options. Study up and apply my man.
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>>187531259
I have no idea what I'm doing man. Shadowstep is the other version of the command dash, right? I don't even remember how it works.
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>>187530802
You should play anon!
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>>187532327
I'd like to, but my PC can't run the game with a stable fps.
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>>187530905
I guess a little bit of both. Any 50/50 just automatically gets me, but even if it's not 50/50, I sometimes think I'm safe to attack after blocking a couple of things but then I get nailed with something and eat a combo.

>>187532123
Yeah, I've been reading it a little bit. I don't think I've been able to apply much of it yet, but hopefully soon.
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>>187530802
>have the game
>don't even play it
>still browse here every day
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lmao
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Is there a character that forces you more to learn the basics and the universal mechanics than the others? Settled for Ky now but if ever Zappa comes back I'll main him.
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>>187422145
Next time you open a room always use the "Announce blahblahblah" option before closing it then wait until everyone gets off the cab, if you just close it abruptly you interrupt every match in the room
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>>187502076
I posted about this in the last thread or one before. I use 3 finger grip but the pinky in front of the stick instead of behind. I find this more precise and less prone to input errors like using fingers. Use a combination of your shoulder, elbow, and fingers for the special motions. Dashes to the right should be with the knuckles on your palm and 9 should be a combination of fingers and moving your arm in that direction

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kyo2LtmHMj4#t=40s
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The room went down due to me forgetting to pay for my internet. Sorry to everyone who was still there.
I'll probably remake it as soon as my internet returns.
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>>187534031
Sorry for always shitting on your connection, friend
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>>187534245

>>187534634
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>>187534735
you know its k and i understand friendo
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which character can I learn the fastest with little to no training mode. I just don't have the time to spend in training mode between playing blazblue, studying japanese and watching anime and manga.
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How's your pocket Johnny coming along /ggg/?
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>>187535391
I wondered about that too. Training mode can suck my dick, I'd rather do something fun instead.
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>>187535391
Play Leo, the character for people with big dicks
Here are your combos
>gatling into rekka
>5D9 j.H j.H j.H 236H
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>>187535436
training mode is for autists
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>>187535391
Stop playing Blazblue, stop watching anime and stop reading manga, if you do then you'll have more time to train
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>>187535880
I have assburgers and I don't like training mode
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>>187535869
I have a small dick though
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>>187536568
Raven is right up your alley then
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>>187535436
Your brain and penis are immensely small if you can't find enjoyment in the training room for even the briefest spurts of time.
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>>187535869
>not doing optimized crouching combos
for shame
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>>187537145
>putting even the slightest amount of effort into your play
Are you a faggot or something?
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>>187537425
t. Sol Badguy
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>>187537145
Right, check this sick crouching only combo
>gatling into 6k into gatling into rekka
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>>187535434
Nah, I'm not good enough to play Johnny as much as i'd like to, I have a pocket Sol instead.
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>>187537015
Sure. Playing training mode feels like one of those German busywork simulators and I will never enjoy it in the slightest.
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thinking of playing ramlethal. I like her feet
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If someone doesn't play training mode he's either really dumb or really brave.
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>>187538798
There's nothing brave about not using p mode
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>>187535391
how much anime are you watching that you don't have time to train
also stop playing blazgreen that shits trash
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>>187539206
normally 4 episodes a day. I haven't quit blazblue yet because I havne't found a character to main in guilty gear yet.
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>>187539206
Why does BlazBlue get so much hate around here? It's not as fun as GG, but I wouldn't call it trash.
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>>187509343
Pot doesn't change his gameplan either, still loses tho lol
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>>187516369
>6-9 frame delay
Just do some round start rainbows and stun dippers :^)
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hmm I heard Ramlethal voices Akko. But she doesn't sound anything like her.
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>>187516369
>Fucking 6-9 delay doesn't help.
you shouldn't be playing the game. you have a toaster, you need to get off dialup, or >playing competitive 1v1 games in the middle of nowhere
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>>187541260
>you shouldn't be playing the game. you have a toaster
I don't have a toaster, I fell for the "Everyone will get it on consoles for competitive meme"

I'll get it on PC next check

>>187539975
>Just do some round start rainbows and stun dippers
I would but I'll stick to my evolution process
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>tfw can't find a main
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>>187542469
Christ I look very similar to that guy except right now I have no beard
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MOTTO MOTTO
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>>187543545
Frig off Raven
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As Ky what options do I have on wake-up when Raven uses his fireball then flies at me? Do I have to take it can I tell him no thank you?
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>>187542639
That's how I imagine most goobers to look like. Middle aged, Bald and angry.
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>Heaven or Hell
>Duel 1
>Let's Rock
QUICK, WHAT DO YOU DO
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>>187544019
I FUCKING HATE AXL
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>>187543985
>SFV fucks gets ONE (1) decent looking character and now they feel they can talk shit
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>>187544114
Taunt
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>>187544114
Fingers turn into spaghetti and lose the match
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>>187544114
GREED SEVER
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>>187544114
Quit because they picked a cheap character and block their ass
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>>187544610
LTG hates Dhalsim though
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>>187544114
>backdash
>run, then fd brake instantly
>roll if I predict a low profile-able normal
>IAD in if my opponent respects me enough
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>>187544710
update
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>>187542639
>tfw I look near identical a character in gg
>tfw it's 2cave
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>>187545059
But I've seem him bitch about Hugo as Rolento as well
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>>187545360
Gootecks?
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>>187544019
>>187544135
not again
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>>187545569
Nope. Just someone with 100% Eastern European genes on both sides of the family. Venom's comment about having "common and unremarkable" features was extra funny because there's literally generations full of Slavic Jews that have 2cave's face. Some more exact than others, and I'm in the former of the two.
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>>187535869
>>5D9 j.H j.H j.H 236H
C'mon dude, you can do better than that. Leo's basic combo #10 is better and easy as fuck to pull off.
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>>187545360
Jean Reno? I didn't know you played GG.
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>>187545403
>>187545059
>>187544610
relevant
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>>187546249
My dude didn't want to spend time in training mode so I gave him babby tier combos
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>>187544114
GOLD BURST
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>>187546169
Get out jew
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>>187534079
Any character that lacks defensive options.
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>>187546601
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ta4dFNMaREo

>15:39
>YOU ARE THE WORST BURSTER ON THE PLANET, YOU JUST LOST THE TOURNAMENT FOR THAT
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>>187547047
Fucking savage.
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>>187547047
link the timestamp then retard
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>>187547354
I fucked up
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>>187547047
Jesus
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>>187547553
>>187548150
https://youtu.be/5fNwyFHA_Wg?t=14m58s
>14:58
Wow.
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Aside from the games what other GG related stuff should I check out?
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>>187548823
>That DP
>That Burst
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>>187549006
The porn I guess
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When I start feeling more confident with my Venom, I think I'll pick up Dizzy. I'll devote myself to filling the screen with shit.
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>>187549006
Most of the series is just the games. But if you can find a subbed recording anywhere, the Drama CDs are pretty cool (Side Red & Black for a bad end timeline, and Night of Knives if you want to know how fucked up the Assassins Guild was). I have no idea where to even begin looking for them, but there were also two light novels, one of which was a story set between GG1 and GGX (titled "Lightning the Argent), which also had I-No and Raven's first canon appearances. The other is titled "The Butterfly and Her Gale" which is a canon, but self contained side story focusing on Chipp.

There was also a non-canon manga called GG Xtra featuring a green haired OCDONUTSTEEL Gear named Tyr, but it's kind of shit. Also hard to find anything of.
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>>187549550
Venom is better if you wanna fill the screen with projectiles. Dizzy is more risky. You'll see in some matches that Dizzy won't even use summons in neutral because you can get counterhit by a ton of different things.
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>>187548823
how is it possible to make it that far in life and burst so poorly
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>>187550140
It's not even the bad burst followed by the baited DP. It's that he has a literal history of performing shitty bursts. Please someone take bursts away from this man, he's only hurting himself with them.
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>>187548823
Chipp looks really fun from what i've seen of him, but he's really hard to play, right?
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>>187549821
I have to stay careful while summoning the balls and you're saying she's even more risky with her projectiles? I'm in no rush, I'll get used to it eventually.
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>>187550414
If he gets hit, RIP weeb president
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>>187550414
He has a high barrier of entry but once you get to a good level he has so much strong tools that he can just roll through you.
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>>187550414
>>187426848
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>>187550414
He's very technical and has probably the best mixup potential in the game, it's just that every bone in his body will break if you get hit. God help you if you're fighting someone like Leo or May and they get off even one moderately high damage combo on you.
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is anyone making an east coast pc room tonight? if not ill make one
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Tekken player here. Have not touched a single fighting game outside of Tekken for 6 years. Used to play this game way back in the day just so watch the characters move and animate. Just bought this game on steam.

so far I like Venom, Faust, Johnny, Raven, and my guy Slayer.

any tips?
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>>187551527
I don't even play this game
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>>187551594
Refund the game, it's not worth it.
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>>187551527
Usually goes up at like 8:30ish
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>>187551594
Hop online and see how you do. All those characters are solid, it's a matter of how well you actually know them and they hold up in the lobbies. You'll probably end up settling on one or two that you're better with. Hard to give tips before that.
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PC US East Coast room is up. I'll try to go until 10PM tonight.
Room ID: nwhr
Room Password: unga
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>>187551704
dead?
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>>187551796
just so you know, you dont need a room password if there's a room id, i dont know why you keep making one
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>>187544114
backdash or forward dash
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>>187551907
Yeah, you fucking namefag
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>>187546990
So Venom?
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>>187551907
Ignore that faggot. Venom is probably the most technical character, but if that doesn't deter you he can be a lot of fun. Raven is flowcharty, but still really good. If there's one character in particular, I might be able to find a basic guide. Mdesilva's YouTube channel is a good resource and he has playlists for each character. Alternatively, Jonio streams from an arcade in Mikado (it's where Mdesilva gets his clips); lots of high level players to watch.
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>>187552448
Thats why he appeals to me so much outside of having a sick character design. thanks my guy.
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So coming from Tekken, I am used to not having to worry about the tier list in any way shape or form. Does this game have a heavy matchup based approach like many other 2d games? Most 2d games I have played in the past like Street Fighter and Melee all have horrible tier list balance.
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Take the trip off my dude
>>187552352
Yeah or Zato(without Eddie) and Dizzy
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>>187552779
>>187553023
Here's a guide to basic and intermediate level
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1l2we8pbqN2KQlXk52A5CIg17M6ieRx6uKy3y2AbcLt4/mobilebasic

Also, yes, GG is more MU oriented compared to Tekken.
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What the fuck is a MU
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>>187553809
Match up
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>>187553809
Match up. Its to determine what each character can do in the match to render each other options.Number values like 5:5 is consider even and 6:4 means the match up is favor toward the left character.
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>>187553536
ayyyyyyyy sick thanks man
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>>187551796
is the room full? can't find it
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>>187554640
yeah
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>>187553534
Or May
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Please hold me /ggg/
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>>187559752
Cmere bby
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>>187559752
Can't, too busy dying
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>>187559752
Have your bed do that instead
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>mfw two axls in the room
guess i'm learning that matchup
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>>187560394
But I don't have a bed
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The US East Coast PC room is now closed for the night. Thank you to everyone who stopped by.

Also a special thanks to Leo-anon and Baiken-anon for putting up with my Lady Unga bullshit as Millia. Looks like my practice this morning was well worth it.
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I cant even move and throw out normals the way i want to let alone do combos is fucking frusterating
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GGs everyone, I once again lament the fact that Answer doesn't have a single useful super
>>187561586
wish I got to play you more, I nearly beat you a few times
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GGs to EC PC room, especially Millia anon and Baiken anon, really intense fights and I can really feel the improvements I've made the past few weeks.
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gg's EC lobby

I can feel my may slowly improving
answer anon your scroll mix ups are pretty good you just need to find a way to set them up. it's really obvious when you want to hop on the scrolls
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GGs as always East Coast. I wish I couldve joined earlier for a Baiken v Answer. 0 experience in that matchup.
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If people still want to play, I'm putting up another lobby until probably 11-1130.
PC US Northeast
Room code: oo1d
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>>187561961
You did really well. It's been a while since we fought and you're clearly improving. I think the scales tipped when I realized I can use Millia's 6K to get over your lows on wakeup because her hitbox is off the ground during the flip. I don't know how to play Answer, but figuring out a way around opponents with those kinds of normals will do some good in the long run.
>>187562168
Thanks for coming in. Those matches were intense because I die in two combos against Leo. There's really no room for error whatsoever.
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>>187561586
I didn't get to play your millia but from what i spectated it looked pretty nice
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>>187562245
I'll be playing tomorrow if you want to experience it, though i'm still playing around with other characters
>>187562201
Yeah I need to work on that, it's just so hard to implement, the only time you'll ever get to jump on one is oki > 6h, or if you just manually jump into one, it's terrible
I also kept not inputting 46P, which is a habit I need to break out of
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Also someone explain to me why this isn't an overhead
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>>187562351
Thanks. I actually subbed her all the way back in Midnight Carnival. While I haven't touched her since then until now, a lot came back fast. Plus she had a lot of representation in Sign, so it's not like I went in completely blind.

Basically I like mixups and being able to play recklessly aggressively. Any character that can offer those are the ones I end up flocking to eventually.
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Is there something wrong with using instant kills during matches. I haven't seen many people try and go for it during regular matches, is there some kind of etiquette regarding the use of them? Should I read up on do's and dont's?
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>>187562587
Because Daisuke hates you
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>>187562407
Wish I could but I am going to have to be away from computers/games for a week. Hopefully, next week if you're around.
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>>187562327
couldn't find the room
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>>187562327
>>187562829
I can't tell if the code is a 1 or a lowercase L so it's probably oold
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>>187562907
it's not that either
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>>187562725
if your talking about the axl that quit during yours thats me and i apologize i was really mad at myself for sucking during all the matches and wasn't thinking
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>>187562725
If you can go for them, by all means do so. IKs are really, really, REALLY risky. So it's common not to even bother attempting them until you have a match winning round, 50% tension, and an opponent with 20% or less life for the Gold IK bar. Usually by then, it's a much better idea to use the meter to finish them off through other means.
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>>187562725
Because it's really hard to pull off mid match unless you're fighting a really shitty new player or you're in a game winning round and know a decent combo to set it up and your opponent fucks up enough to allow you to do it. That and if you fuck it up the downsides are horrible.
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>>187563008
Made a new room. Try b84d

PC US Northeast
Room code: b84d
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>>187562703
I hope my sub comes back one day
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>>187563525
According to Daisuke, he's the next in line to come back. Unfortunately it's still going to be a while.
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>>187563010
No, I'm PSN, just a passing coincidence I guess.
>>187563017
>>187563072
I see, makes sense that there would be more sensible options to winning a set. I was curious since none of the players I watched seemed to really went for one.
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If anyone is interested in a PC West Coast Lobby I will set one up in about an hour or so, might go afk during it if I can get enough people to work on some readings.
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>>187563765
I'm fine with waiting a little longer if we get more characters than rev1 had
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>tfw "forget" Potemkin's backdash and he potbusters me on failed oki
Fug
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>>187563268
GGs anon
I really need to work on using more normals and RCing/using tension, hopefully that will come with time
also learned I need to work on doing DP motions so I don't have a super accidentally come out when I meant to do a command grab again
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Boobeh
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>Jam discord has a section dedicated to food
She would be proud.
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>>187569043
Jam discord is also the discord with the most japanese pros iirc
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Is Jam still a virgin?
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>>187569609
Of course, she's saving herself for me.
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>>187569647
Nice joke pal, but she's obviously going to pick me.
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How do you beat Ken/Sol that just does the most random shit but with meter so you can't punish?
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>>187569972
Block and punish. That meter doesn't appear out of thin air.
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>>187569972
Pick Ryu/Ky and do the same the same thing.
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>>187569972
I don't
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>>187570056
It kinda does with how Sol plays
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Well it started to rain again, guess I'll stay here for a while.
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>>187510815
>If Rev 2 got a balance patch, what are some things you would want changed about your characters?
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>>187571426
It rains outside and I'm about to spend next 4 hours on a train. Oh the things I do to get cheaper weed.
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>>187571426
Eat your hamburgers Ram
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>>187396647
I'm from SEA on PS4, it's pretty tough finding matches during the day, night is packed tho it's pretty good, still a bad feeling playing on 4-7 f, i main baiken and i'm never going to play my best online.
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>>187571594
my brother grows weed. I have tubs full of weed that will never be smoked and I could smoke it whenever I want. I actually don't smoke weed anymore. I've smoked so much weed It doesn't get me high anymore.
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>>187571809
I'm in a somewhat similar position. That's why I'm also gonna take a nice bag of speed to go with it.
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>>187551594
>Tekken player here. Have not touched a single fighting game outside of Tekken for 6 years. Used to play this game way back in the day just so watch the characters move and animate. Just bought this game on steam.
>so far I like Venom, Faust, Johnny, Raven, and my guy Slayer.
Give Ramlethal a looksee too, she's got tekken combos and juggles.
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>>187571948
But anon speed is bad for your health

Also playing under it's effects is cheating, and that is unforgivable
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>>187571578
Give leo back the ability to jump cancel 6P.
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>>187572361
You want him to be even more unga?
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>>187563765
>According to Daisuke, he's the next in line to come back. Unfortunately it's still going to be a while.
Apparently that was slightly mistranslated. Daisuke said he'd like to do Robo-Ky next, but for whatever reason, despite being his game, the decision isn't completely up to him, so it might not be him yet.
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>>187572224
Yeah, but it feels good. It's not like I'm gonna go on a several day binge, I'm not a young buck anymore.
I'm sure I'll still suck even with doping, but maybe it'll give me enough concentration to grind out my Jam bnbs properly. I love her design and playstyle, but being allergic to putting effort into things makes it hard to play her.
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Ok these lighting strikes are getting way too close now

Fucking Ky
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>>187572540
It wasn't mistranslated I don't believe. He stated if someone were to be next it'd be Robo-Ky. Fans have twisted that into saying he's absolutely next.
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>>187572540
Because games aren't usually made by one person.
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games ne1

us west pc
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>>187573003
Nigga just IB them.
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>>187573428
Sure, wanna make a lobby?
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>>187573019
>Because games aren't usually made by one person.
Right, but you'd imagine someone with as much pull at the company and who created everything about the game would have final say as to who's next or not
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>>187573508
This ain't no joke anon the last one actually made the windows shake pretty hard
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>>187573508
>IBing with a 1/1000th of a frame window
I hope he's japanese.
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>still cant airthrow
i dont get it
i honestly dont
i OS like you guys say
and I never do it
i cant tell if there's another thing im doing wrong or what
when i OS it always just does HS and not S like an OS is supposed to do if not in range of an airthrow?
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>>187573598
He probably does have the final say, but its not up to just him to consider who should be playable next.
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>>187573596
sure code is "acxg"


anyones welcome to join
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Anyone have tips for dustloop? Getting the second j.D is such a pain, I can get it maybe 5% of the time
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>>187573883
I almost never throw intentionally with the way they are done in GG. I understand that all the possible two button combinations are already taken by other mechanics, but I'd still love for the throws to be better separated from the normal moves.
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>>187574154
restarting my pc and remaking lobby after a game finishes
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>>187575452
Okay cool, connections were going crazy there
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>>187575452
>>187575617
yeah i dont know what happened, my connections usually pretty stable

i remade the lobby the code is "cukt" (lol)
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Am I retarded? I can't dash/backdash on stick just by using my fingers. Usually find myself having to move my arm at the elbow to do that motion
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>>187576008
Try to flick the stick with your thumb and forefingers instead of actually pushing or pulling it
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>>187576243
This is what I've been trying, but a lot of times my dashes just fail like that or I start using my wrist. Feel like I need to strengthen my fingers or something.
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>>187576008
That's what I do for forward dash, for back dash my thumb does the work. Forward dash my hand slaps the stick with the knuckles that are part of the palm and the forearm rotates slightly. It's almost like you're tapping a beat on the edge of a table.
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>internet dies a bunch of times in lobby
>wait until my connection is a little bit more stable
>get into a game
>internet dies again
Guess it's back to training mode
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>>187579023
Leo-anon?
it's fine, there's always more days
I wish I had gotten to play you more, I need to learn how to deal with Leo's pressure as a character without any way to get out of it outside of system mechanics
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>>187579626
No, it's the Ky that uses the black/blue colors.
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>>187580242
Pastel Ky here. We should play sometime when your internet is doing good, I'll teach you some stuff.
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>>187581883
Would appreciate it. Got a ton to learn. Still struggling with the advanced combos in the combo section.
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>>187575918
GGs guys, needed to do a few things before I went to bed so I decided to get off.
>>187581979
Just practice them my man, you'll get them down eventually.
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>>187582194
ggs amigo thanks for joining
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>>187582194
one day I'll learn to look out for fireball yrc
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>>187582194
Will do. Hopefully it's soon. The timings are throwing me off, and I'm still having trouble adapting to the stick. I wish I could git gud already.
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>>187510815
I just want to fake out with Mappa again like in Accent Core Plus R with Slayer. Having to YRC to go for a bite costs meter, makes it more obvious and you're more prone to hit the guy or not be close enough. Plus I'd like Helter Skelter to me moved as a D input and have It's Late be back to HS as well. If Baiken can have a follow up for all 5 buttons then there's no reason why Slayer shouldn't
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If you don't start mashing like mad before the freeze frame you get hit with IK in that unblockable set up.
It's fraudulent as all hell.
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Late leo here. Thanks for the games slayer and faust.
Remeber leo players WANT you to mash throw don't give them what they want.
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GGs to everyone that joined the lobby, and thanks for joing, was fun
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>>187583651
Sorry I just left like that. I was getting salty as hell, and then I realized I hadn't eaten in 12 hours and just wanted to play after getting done with work. Hunger gets me cranky easily and Leo already easily spirals me into bad mistakes.
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>>187584314
It's cool I'm well aware leo does that. That's kinda his strength. if you let him in he can force you into simple mistakes and he gets a lot of reward from them.
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>>187584729
I do have a question about Leo, even though I should probably just test it out in training.

When I IB your rekka, what do I do when you restrain yourself and don't follow up with the slash through? I know I jumped the gun and automatically went for the throw and you countered me, but do you just get away free and continue pressure after, since is trying to punish just rolling the dice whether or not you continue or not?

Maybe I'm overthinking it and there is a simple solution I need to figure out, but it always seems like it goes so fast in game and I never know what to do in that particular situation against more careful leo players.
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>>187585212
Well after IB mashing 2a will stop both the cross up and me trying to continue pressure so that is the simple solution.
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Is it possible to cancel into super jumps? I'm trying to practice some combos, and half the time they're too high up for me to reach. Wondering if it's possible to super jump instead of regular jump
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Who's the best Rekka/Rushdown character to learn in GG?
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>>187587425
I want to say leo.
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>>187585212

You're fucking up if you're just going for throw after IBd first rekka, what you need to do is either 4+any button+HS or 6+any button+HS. First OS FDs a button he chooses to press instead of rekka and throws the crossup and the second - vice versa. Keep in mind it's spacing specific, being too far won't net you throws, but still.
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>>187587705
Leo player here. Problem with that OS is that if i do Rekka 1 and go low you get knocked down and i start my shit. You can't block low and OS throw at the same time. Second problem with that OS is that if you do it too early you make rekka 1+_ on block. It IS the safer option but it's also easy to exploit if you're aware they're doing it. I'm sure a lot of people who've played me in here have noticed that i almost never do the second rekka it's because it's way to easy to blow up. Most decent leo players don't bother with the second rekka anymore outside of certain set ups or it's clear that they don't know how to deal with it.
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For anyone having trouble with dealing with Leo, here's a three-part guide on how to handle his pressure:

https://www.evernote.com/shard/s733/sh/7e53ba64-cbdd-4ace-b24d-b3d1f67b8093/d3cc40d32ace0fcd8f70d79d767d4c51
https://www.evernote.com/shard/s330/sh/a6dc3213-901e-40c6-9dc9-0185e71d18d9/92b7216760dd99255e74de1917df7b19
https://www.evernote.com/shard/s733/sh/6e7a37a3-51b3-4712-a987-ee217a69b321/0a4c182bd304d854b4128b0cad4fe42a
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>>187587425
Chipp/Leo
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>>187548823
He was dead by then, didn't matter if he bursts or not.
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S-Ko will kill you in your sleep.
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Jonio is streaming
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It's kind of surprising that these threads have all of these rooms across platforms and regions with consistent amounts of players in each

Like, there are PC East coast rooms, a PC West coast rooms, PSN East/West too

I still wish the game was cross-platform, but it's nice to see a that there's a healthy playerbase no matter what platform you're on
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Real EU hours bump
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>>187599785
yeah it's nice but I never see PC west, especially when i'm wanting to play.
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>>187419145
They deserve happiness.
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>>187522467
At the very least Sin, Ram and Johnny don't.
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>>187600712
Hard to keep us alive during Euro hours
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>>187600712
Are you still there? just got back from work, want to play?
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>>187601597
Ask if people will join if you make a room
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>>187606610
Alright, I made a lobby, ID is x3nw
It's winner stays if anyone else wants to join
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>>187606610
Not that anon, but I'd play for like an hour. I'm free tho.
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>>187607219
What's your steam, senpai
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>>187607508
http://steamcommunity.com/id/pivotkraner/
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do you guys lab other characters to help figure out their shit?
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>>187607862
Sometimes. Mainly to check the range on their normals and compare it to mine.
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>>187536687
but raven literally has a mechanic that makes his dick grow during gameplay
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>>187603791
surprisingly, only ram is the one without any hurtboxes on weapon normals, there are some exceptions like sins second hit of 5h and johnnys 5h has a good amount of hitbox without hurtbox, but for the most part those two have hurtboxes on their weapons.
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>>187596117
It's not like I want to live anyway
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>>187608003
Is it worthwile to do all the characters combos?
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YOU WANNA BE CRAZY
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>>187610125
Probably not. Some of them are really impractical and won't see use.
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Dizzy having fun with friends
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>>187612379
Can lorefag explain why Raven is immortal?
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>tfw you trip on the power cable
>again
im only alive by accident
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>play against somebody
>get smashed over and over
>get excited
>suddenly new player joins and you have to rotate
>immediately lose interest and leave
Pretty weird feeling.
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>>187612971
Sure, it's a slow day in the office.

The thing is, we have no idea exactly why Raven is immortal. But like I-No, Axl, and possibly Sharon, his existence is interpreted as some kind of anomaly or error by the Backyard. The most likely theory is that the Backyard doesn't count him as being alive, or more specifically, existing. This would suggest that someone that doesn't exist has physical form. Because the backyard can interpret his body as existing, but Raven himself as non-existent, it puts him in an endless paradoxical loop where he can't die because he isn't alive to begin with, but he has a physical "shell" that is alive. Whenever the error is "corrected" by his death, the way the backyard processes the death of someone who isn't alive is to basically hit ctrl+z and put him back into a state of life because it can't interpret the state of his life/death and puts it in the previous state it can understand.

The backyard is basically the source code for reality and like all code, bugs are inevitable. Those "errors" are people like I-No, Raven, and Axl.
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NEW THREAD

>>187614704
>>187614704
>>187614704
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>>187613752
Thanks lorefag. That's some interesting shit.
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