/domg/ - Dominions General

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First for doing turns

>>187278662
Second for being knocked out first :)

What are the battlefield dimensions? Why is it not in the pastebin?

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>>187278749
Found it.

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>>187278662
Do your turns.

>>187278749
>xibalba amd lanka are being knocked out first

Summod akbar

>>187279068
Xibalba is strong I know that but is Lanka normally top tier?

>>187279313
lol

>>187279313
t.Lanka

>>187279313
>blood nation
>top tier summons
>free skeletons to patrol and eat evos for you
>somehow not top tier

>>187280324
Dont forget that they get extra slaves in turmoil unlike everyone else and a ton of kickass sacred summons.

I'm probably making a MA disciples game soon. Is there interest for that?

I could do it LA instead, but I have already played too many disc games in EA.

>>187280681
>>187280324
Wew, makes me glad I took him out when he was weak

>>187278749
>Why is it not in the pastebin?
Excellent question. Added.

>>187280895
Also, if anyone feels like rewriting 'basics' and 'tips' sections (lots of stuff in there is either outdated or just plain wrong), go ahead.

Apart from that, I think we could use something like this guide https://pastebin.com/MNrJ3ZQh (except good) - supershort guides for all nations; what are they good at and what should you expect when playing as or against them. I can write a few sections, but I don't really feel competent enough to summarize the usual strategies for all nations.

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So as some guy pointed out in the previous thread, Lanka's surrender was entirely premature. And as another proof of that we now find out that Lanka was sitting on some fine reserves of D gems which the AI was not ashamed of spending on lots and lots of undead.

The resulting spike in "Army strength" graph is quite a thing to behold, and those skeletons will take a while to clean up.

Elswhere, we have the following happenings:

>Ur has finally taken Sauro's capital, and is now about to take the last few remaining Sauro provinces. Capital assault was quite tough, with Sauro's mages spamming skeletons and blocking the entrance, so there were some pretty serious losses.
>Pangaea has taken Berytos capital. The capital was barely defended, so losses only include a bunch of maenads and 10 White Centaurs
>Agartha has reached Mictlan's capital and is now sieging it.
>Fomoria has conquered a Mictlan's fort and has not made any further moves yet.
>Ulm's invasion to Lanka has been stopped by the undead monkeys for now.

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Firebirds are seriously underrated. They are a Bogarus-only strategy, but i've found that summoning a few early (piss easy with Alchemists) really makes every turn much more profitable, the good events (if you took god-like scales as i have) are insanely profitable, any gem event lets you convert the entire bounty to, like, other 5 Firebirds (they cost only 2 fire gems), and you research them pretty quickly given Bogarus researchers + magic scales i've taken.
I hope the other players wont realize they are shit tier units and break the illusion of being well defended by them + shit tier archers.

>>187281993
(this doesn't actually work)

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What's his endgame?

>>187284429
I'll see about that, i don't plan on spamming them like the pic i posted, but having a 20% chance more each turn to have good shit happen can be a huge boon for a very little investment (what, like 40 gems or something)

>>187267698
Already exists. Called something-something Gaia. Has immobile freespawn producers and mobile seducers.

>>187284542
To feast on the dead, it will eventually feast on the gods

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You have been visited by UNCLE STALIN and his COZY RECREATIONAL RESORT of GREAT REJOICING!

Good luck and easy games will come to. But only if you reply "REJOICE! THE TRUE GOD HAS ASCENDED!" to this post!

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Ulm had no chance as well. I now have 7/6 thrones I need for victory. Next turn I'm getting the 8th.

>>187286929
>>187286981
Stool are you winning as Marignon? Turns out the anti-Ashdod shilling was just a ruse.

>>187286929
REJOICE! THE TRUE GOD HAS ASCENDED!

>>187287304
Ashdod had 5 thrones when I diplomanced people. He WAS actually doing a throne rush, and I posted screens. He took an indie throne near Machaka's cap ring (on turn 50. yeah...), and only my magic phase memes stopped him.

>>187286929
REJOICE! THE TRUE GOD HAS ASCENDED!

>>187286929
REJOICE! THE TRUE GOD HAS ASCENDED!

>>187286929
https://youtu.be/stlZEKoJg10

хopoшo

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>>187288585

>>187278662
Lanka pls

>>187289119
Ulm is on his capital. Stalestrats engaged.

>>187289167
Then his turns should be fast. He is making us all wait every turn. Is this some next level strategy?

>>187289236
Yep.

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Hello
I participated in an LA blitz a while ago, playing LA Ulm for the first time
Thought I was doing well until a couple of players questioned why I didn't have vampires.
Apparently, the nation should focus on blood magic rather than play as the typical evo human nation like MA Ulm

Is going Blood really the only viable trategy for this nation?
I liked the theme of EA and MA Ulm being about strong men not giving a fuck about monsters and gods. Thus summoning demons and vampires as LA Ulm is something I'd like to avoid not doing,

Pic related Marignon and Patala attacked me for thrones, while Agartha tried to vulture me.
Used an F9 A4 Idol of Man pretender, which in hindsight was a probably a bad idea because I found out black templars were cap-only.

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>>187289690
Also Patala won by using flying elephants that immediately bypassed my blockers and trampled my iron blizzard casters.
How does one counter that as LA Ulm?

>>187289812
Cast Paralyze with your 999 astral mages.

DO YOUR TURNS

>>187289690
*I'd like to avoid doing

>>187289690
There may be alternatives, but then you're basically a low astral nation with some earth. You have national vamp counts that generate free patrollers for bloodhunters. If you're not using them, you're handicapping yourself.

>>187289690
It's doable in principle but while Ulm reaches midgame quickly (due to recruit everywhere mages), their advantage is the ability to recruit mages without having to build infrastructure first and once other nations get their forts up and recruitment starts being limited by income/upkeep rather than how many provinces you can recruit mages from, bloodless Ulm loses pretty much any edge they could possibly have had over other nations. For example, LA Pangaea does communions better (high HP centaur sages suitable for turbocommunions, can cast Thunder Strike/Gift from Heavens/etc in addition to astral spells), all the while also having big N/E mages AND better troops.

>>187289812
Bodyguard blob on mages.

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Bane?... GET THEM ON BOARD I'LL CALL IT IN

Anyone hosting a MA game?

>>187293882
Tell me about Bane! Does he wear the artifacts?

RemoveLanka Abysia, take your turn.

>>187294220
NO ARTIFACTS FOR A SUMMONED GUN

What bless do you guys take for elves?

>>187295421
Which elves? As far as I know, EA Vanheim wants a troop bless (W9+something most likely) while Tir probably wants N9Ex

>>187295848
I was thinking Tir.

>>187295992
Well their sacred troops suck (more or less), so any bless you take will be for Sidhe Lords. What exactly you take depends on how powerful you want your thugs vs how much diversity or scales you want from your pretender.

>>187295992
N9E4 is the standard TNN bless.
You also might want to try the W9E4 since you can get the hooded spirit that way.

>>187294086
I would, but I'm currently too busy to check the thread regularly. Please create one.

>>187296817
more like those are the standard blesses for almost everyhing ever. some games literally every pretender carries that same bless because the alternatives kindof suck

What settings do you guys usually use? I'm using:
>Random events common
>Story events Enabled
>100% multiplier for resources/supplies/money
>Magic site frquency 35%
>Indipendet strenght 5
Anything i should change? Am i playing easy mode without noticing?

>>187301073
>single player
Yes you are.

>>187301381
Well, i do feel scared on going multiplayer.
Do you use the settings i posted in multiplayer or something else?

>>187303318
Those settings are all pretty reasonable, except story events are usually turned off.
Don't be scared. It's more fun.

>>187303318
Don't listen to the other guy. Be very afraid. Being stomped by something you totally didn't expect is really exhilarating. Then you learn to use the same shit, or even mix it up your own way, and you stomp people yourself. Disregarding the fear part, join MP game as soon as possible.

>>187303318
Join the Multiplayer game as good nation like MA Agartha, they have thick sacred troops and thick sacred statues that you can research pretty early and pretty much all of their relevant mages are sacred >>187293882 in the pic related you can see how 3 thick sacred statues tanked the masked man, his League of Shadows and his army of big, fire-throwing demons. Besides, it's not like other players are necessarily good.

http://steamcommunity.com/groups/vanheimageofvidya/discussions/1/1471967615889746218/

This game will never start but that doesn't stop me shilling it.

Need at least two more for EarlyChocolate
http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=EarlyChocolate

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i still exist

>>187308478
I'm interested in joining this with my newbie, but 6 players are probably too few. How many of them are we aiming for?

>>187310520
Somewhere between 5 and 10 teams. Teaching Feeling had the whole ten.

What about Cold 3 Abyssia?

>>187309590
Do a Treelord!

>>187309590
Sure, make a Sidhe Lord, with the obligatory 3 mirror images

>>187309590
Do a supaya, please.

>>187308478
>>187310520
I'm this guy again, any preferences on age? I wanted MA but then realized I have never seen a LA disciples game.

>>187313193
>If not enough people care about the age, it will be defaulted to Middle Age.

If you want something else say so in the thread.

>>187313682
I would prefer to stay anonymous.
t.me

>>187315598
That'll be tough considering it's a sign up game.

>>187317495
I signed up here, why do you need more than that?

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What happened to that crusader mod some guy was making? The sprites for that looked awesome

>>187318812
I think it was released and he posted a link, should be in the archives somewhere.

>>187318812
I finished it. Posted it in the thread too. https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxQvrB13LOtaWUpPdThacDc4cXc/view

For some reason I couldnt get the #nextspell thing working for me so no dropping small armies of angels and statues on guys and I didnt test some of the combat spells but other than that I think it mostly works as intended.

>>187318458
I imagine it'd be pretty fucking hard to track you down for your draft pick in a month or two when it actually happens.

>>187319187
Oh, awesome, thanks!

Is there anything that could be done with the nextspell thing? I don't know much about modding but is there some other spell that works the same way that you could copy?

>>187319721
I did copy spells that worked the same way which is why I'm so butthurt about it. There was points where the game was telling me that the next spell I set it to use didnt exist despite you being able to see and cast it in game.
Its fine anyway, its not that big a change.

>>187320039
Huh, that is odd then.

Anyway,I got invited to a modnation blitz so I hope you made them overpowered as shit

>>187320490
Well they got cap only sacreds with awe, regeneration, decent armor, flamberges and immortality so I wouldnt exactly call them balanced.

>>187313682
I volunteered as mentor, since there are two rogue newbies.

>>187320039
Maybe you can't make custom spells as network? There is something like that with on-battle spells. The work around is to make them on-battle a garbage spell like crumble and change what it does.

>>187321636
I'm almost certain you can. Like I couldnt even make a spell where you summon a commander and some dudes show up with him despite that being a pretty common type of spell.

At last the true Malakal has ascended!

Graphs and short summary following! For now rejoice!

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>>187326307

I subbed in the game around the turn 20 I think. I had about 10 provinces and one non capital fort without addons on a lizard shaman province. And around 60 great olms.

I started with expanding and building more forts and not recruiting a single olm until like last turn of the game.

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!BREAKING NEWS!

Today's big story:

A decisive battle has been fought between Agartha and Mictlan! And while Agartha has suffered some heavy losses, including its pretender, it has been able to completely defeat Mictlan's last stand.

Major part of Mictlan's army consisted of slaves, which have been blown away by Agartha's blade winds.
Ozelotls and Jaggies were actually the ones to hold the line and deal the most damage against Agartha, along with some summons provided by mages.
Agartha's Pretender has been doing fine for most of the battle, but at some point he decided to Drain Life a Jaguar Warrior. That clearly was not his best decision, as the blood vengeance swiftly made him go "poof" in front of his shocked soldiers. And you can be sure there's no dominion to proc his immortality either.

Nonetheless, Great Olms and remaining agartha's forces have been able to succesfully defeat what remained of Mictlan's elite troops and the mages they protected.

RIP in peace "All i wanted to do was blood hunt" Mictlan. We are sorry for bullying you.

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>>187326705

My pretender was dormant (?) D5E5 risen oracle, guess ok but no reason for him not to be imprisoned. Had good gold scales but no magic.

Aight

Before ((((((he)))))) starts bragging i want to tell you how the game went from my perspective

Im pretty sure earth attack was my third MP game in dominions and it showed.
I submitted an absolutely horrendous imprisoned pretender with no bless whatsoever , I started the game and expanded very poorly after which i somehow suceeded in removing Oceania from land and made a non agression pact with agartham which turned out to be absolutely disastrous.
I then ate fomoria and spent the rest of the game watching as arcosephale, vanheim and TC fail to defeat agartha, but it was a learning experience nonetheless

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>>187326705
>>187326873

I started by making friends with my neighbors, mainly Lanka and Sauro.

Lanka quickly got invaded by Fomoria and I moved in to shield him from Fomoria and by providing him with whatever aid I could. He stayed my good vassal for the game.

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fu

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>>187326873
>>187327056

I signed a NAP with Sauro with no expiry date, that was annoying as I couldn't get his thrones and had to go around the entire world for them.

When Kailasa fell I vultured some of his lands, including a throne.

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>>187327056
>>187327286

After that I was aiming for EBDW but Arco stole it from me. Whats even worse he started summoning hidden in sand armies and that made me panic. Sand skeletons are nigh immune to magma kids and that was my entire army by then bar a few mercuries.

I quickly invaded Arco despite only having alt6 and evo5/conj3. Fortunately he wasnt much of a challenge.

Vanheim decided I was the biggest challenge (I was) and invaded me via sailing. He took my throne fort but I retook it after reaching alt7 and fog warriors.

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>>187327286
>>187327615

In the meanwhile Sauro ate Fomoria, Lanka was a small state that was my vassal, also fighting Arco, Kaialsa fell to TC and Vanheim/Yomi.

Yomi was fighting Vanheim and kinda losing but elves couldnt finish him off - because they sent all their stuff on me obviously. Yomi randomly went AI tho despite havign good odds for a great comeback. He did send me 100W before, that funded my mercury army.

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>>187327815
>>187327615

With my newly Yomi funded mercury doomstack and never ending supply of magma kids and some umbrals/penumbrals I leisurely invaded TC/Oceania taking their thrones I needed to win.

TC went all in on conj9 so apparently he had no battle magic despite having an assload of indie mages and research and territory and gems and whatever.

Oceania did fuckall but be annoying all game.

My enemies evidently did not use their rp/gems properly as they had a massive lead for most of the game.

TC had W9F9E4 and played way too passive for that bless. He played scales TC not double bless rapist TC he should have.

Elves gave up too soon. So did Yomi and Arco.

Sauro was too pussy vagina ass to fight me. Cluck cluk chicken, hiding behind our NAP.

Lanka was a good boi, he gets to be my right hand after ascension.

EA Agartha is great fun nation, reccomend it. Pity I didn't get to break the seal tho.

Why is oceania so weak? You would think all the stealthy amphibious troops would make them a nightmare in an UW fight.

>>187328374
Because all the good spells for their paths don't work UW

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Lanka has made a valiant effort to break the siege, however the effort fell flat. It did show me a few errors in my troop positioning and that will be changed to fix it in the future to avoid unneeded loss of life. His pretender is still hiding in the castle, but with even less troops to repair the damage I am causing I think his days are numbered.

>>187328739
Blood nations must be deleted.

>>187328739
You are doing Pantokrator's work Ulm.

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>>187326705
When winning regular noob games from the start just wasn't challenging enough then you started subbing into noob games. Interesting.

>>187326930
Making NaPs is absolutely haram in this community and you should never do it.

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Real talk, why would you take more then one black heart?

>>187330431
>Making NaPs is absolutely haram in this community and you should never do it.

Nothing wrong with making NaPs. Not discarding them the moment they no longer benefit you is a sign of a shitty player though.

>>187330960
t. Malakal

why even sign them then? if the player you signed it with is good he will just break the NaP, if he is bad then why would you want peace with him?

>>187331253
a bad player still grinds your armies down with 30 points of PD and using his mages to cast fireball instead of research

>>187309590
Redo Dai Oni
Not spooky enough

>>187331401
i guess. you're the expert noob whisperer here

>>187330719
For the morale bonus?

>>187331986
I feel like the HP hit would be more harm then good at that point

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>>187331253
>why even sign them then?
I dont know what the fuck you mean by "sign them". Its just fucking words nigga.

Sure, you can's trust anyone, but you can communicate intent and have mutually beneficial relations with other nations. But once good relations stop being beneficial for you, there is no reason to maintain them.

>>187330719
>why would you take more then one black heart?
To Malakal while you Malakal.

>>187328374
They're great in UW fights. But the thing is that your opponent can just decide to not go UW. On land, you only have two kinds of mage, and sirens are shit and capricorns are expensive slowrecs. Your troops are basically pangean, but worse. No armor to be seen. At least your capricorns can buff them.

Flying around siren deathsquads was funny, but hardly effective.

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MA game soon, friends

>>187337483
When?

Need at least one more Chocolate
http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=EarlyChocolate

>>187337548
Thursday

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Holy shit this guy looks powerful as fuck.

>>187339093
Supaya are literally boomers that never die

>>187339093
I mean, you get what you pay for.

>>187339093
>850 gold
Same price gives Bandar 15 yogi that will magic duel it in 1 round.

>>187339093
They are great, but they're slow, fragile cap only mages that cost more thqn a fort, and a similar upkeep cost.

Use them to reanimate supaya. Flying ethereal sacreds are the shit.

>>187339425
Still worth having one or two of if you're running a communion.

>>187339093
??
what do you mean its fucking terrible lol
low research, low magic, ass tons of gold, low HP...

>>187337548
I'll probably host one in four hours or so.

>>187340368
As I said, you won't force that meme. Don't even try anymore.

>>187339425
>>187339740
>>187340368
Their HP is hardly relevant. Why would you ever fight with those? They are for sitesearching and rainbow spell/crafting shenanigans.

>>187344079
Because they can cast powerful spells?

>>187344079
how can you spend 850 gold on a site searcher and expect to win the game
rainbow site searching is rarely even good, you end up with tons of gems you have nothing to do with.

>>187344315
Trade? Alchemy? Empowering into useful paths?
What kind of fucking scrub are you?

>>187345060
Don't reply to trolls.

>>187345060
trading is haram

Can somebody give me a quick rundown on how I should be playing LA C'tis?

>>187347812
Take B9 and summon tons of tomb sneks?

>>187347812
Take awake scales or awake monobless bless unless you're playing on a very large map (15+ players), in which case you can reasonably argue for the scaling potence of a bless.

Expand with your sacred heavy infantry as a core and falchion flankers, as they don't need a bless to be good at surviving against crossbows.

Spend all of your early D gems on tomb kings. Use chariots for fighting and tomb wyrms for evo bait/general tanking. Later, you might need to dump D gems on battlemagic and boosters, so it's less of an obvious always-buy the way that Dusk Elders are.

Use HoS mage support + indy crossbows for midgame fighting, and transition into armies of undead chaff with banefire + battlefield badness (rigor mortis, heat from hell, etc). Poison slingers are less useful than crossbows early, but become good v high prot or tower shield enemies that can't put up poison res or mass regen, as their poison damage is AN. They also can't be blocked by arrowfend effects.

Once you have a few forts up, spam only sauromancers out of cap and empoisoners from your cap

>>187348997
Alright great thanks for that.

Can a teleporting pretender move his army around with him or is it for himself only?

>>187350313
Depends on the spell. I think there are only like a couple that let you bring troops along.

>>187350313
Just himself, there is a item that allows you to bring the whole army though

>>187350750
Someone post the image of the unexpected event that gave someone an indie commander with Gatestone really early

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How's this for EA Ulm in ME?

>>187354932
You definitely want more order

>>187354932
That looks a lot like the first pretender I ever made for Ulm.

It didn't work out.

>>187354932
It's honestly fine, but if you can bump prod up somehow it'd be helpful for expansion. You also need only E3 for elemental staves

>>187354932
I'd prefer the reliable order/prod income over luck, but Luck/Magic is pretty nice with all the gem sinks ME gives you. Ulm especially can just DUMP gems on battlemagic.

>>187326792
So now that Mictlan's dead is it time to bully fomoria?

>>187355486
Show your name if you wanna collude u pussy

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How to fix Dominions 4

>Reviving a god using "Call God" clears it of all afflictions, horror marks, and curse

>>187354932
literal poop
why the fk would you spend 210 points on that clown when you have access to the thrice horned boar

>>187357701
Why fix what isn't broken?

turns turns go away
host again another day

>>187357701
How to fix Dominions 4

KO sits down with sum1 and Lambert and all those hyperautists and goes through the summod changelog and talks about why they made those changes and modifies the vanilla game, taking inspiration from what the fans have done, to create a balanced experience.

>>187359209
Unironically this. Also, uses ACTUAL FUCKING MP WIN STATS for balance changes. Fucking Illfraud, holy shit.

>>187359339
?
how would MP win stats matter at all
first of all: balance doesn't exist
secondly: ur a fgt
thirdly: give me cd key

>>187359407
It's obviously to everyone here that you're a regular that's just trying to force a bad meme. I'll ask you to stop again.

>>187347812
UNLIMITED BANEFIRE WORKS
Seriously though, Banefire is your bread and butter battlemagic. It works on basically anything.

What do people do if they lose their pretender to bad RNG early game
just go AI?
Just play super cautious like never attacking barbs because their commander can kill you 1% of the time?

>>187361187
Suck it up, a early death is not the end

>>187361187
Just dont sent them to lizard provinces or barbarian provinces or provinces with heavy cav and ull be fiiine

>>187361634
Archers can inflict profuse bleeding too

dead

>>187361751
Imagine what kind of pain bullets would inflict on all those thin-skinned Pretenders.

>>187364860
In all technicality, arrows do more damage than bullets after penetrating, it's just much easier for a bullet to achieve penetration. More likely to hit, as well.

Unless you mean big bullets.

Alrighty I just hosted a FRESH MIDDLE AGE GAME for all of you MArvelous people out there.

http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=MArvelous

I just need to know if the settings I picked are all good or if I should change something.
>random events common?
>1 level 2 throne per player (24 points total)
>11 needed to win (6 of the 12 thrones)

>>187365196
turn on story events

>>187365196
Score graphs on.

>>187365542
You mean those terrible events that cause really bad shit to happen all the time?

One more slot left for
Early Chocolate before I'll start
http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=EarlyChocolate

>>187365830
No, I said story events

so wait how is EA ulm bad, looks like you got good units, cheap recruit anywhere mages with good protection, great archers, smiths + access to dwarven hammers
stealth commanders that are reasonable thugs

What else do you want?

>>187365065
This is not true in the slightest btw

>>187367313
Blood magic and non cap only sacreds

>>187367313
A late game

>>187367459
In what way? I could swear that an arrowhead causes more internal damage than low caliber rounds.

>>187368060
a pistol round is certainly going to cause more internal damage
can fire faster, penetrate better

and obviously are you comparing a high pull bow to a .22 pistol?

>>187368060
It depends.

>>187368149
I did say in the first post that bullets are faster with better penetration.

To be honest though I was probably thinking of 9mm. Almost anything bigger does actual damage, I'll give you that.

>>187368271
pretty sure hollow point bullets cause tons of damage

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>>187368271
>>187368149
Also depends on the arrowhead, but yeah an equivalent weapon (peasant to civilian, war to war) means the guns are stronker.

Let me just switch to AI

>>187367995
Lategame is a meme
But that just means you'll need a pretender capable of doing some stuff

>>187359339
Think about what happened to the poor sea ghosts before you say that.

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>>187312348

>>187374486
Miring.

I honestly don't get these things

>>187374486
i wish to be the little tree

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>>187312806
lord

>>187376235
They are a more fun way to bump the thread than just typing ded for one.

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>>187376328
mirrors
>>187376271
me too

>>187376438
I mean, sure, I don't mind them I just don't GET them

>>187331440
how 2 make spookier

>>187376821
Ghost form?

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Can't stop winning all these games, lads. This one was pretty mediocre.

My innovative N9B9 misfortune 2 drain 2 mari was immediately fucked by throne placement inside cap circle and no way to expand beyond 2 rivers. The game's gimmick was 125% resources, so I wanted to try the knight expansion strat. It went well until I met Jotunheim. I had no choice but to immediately kill him. It was really easy, and even kind of embarassingly so. He didn't even break siege when I domkilled his capital.

After killing Jotun, I saw that Pan was the largest nation, and that he attacked both Machaka and Ulm. I also saw Moat being once again irrelevant with his meme Ys build, as he was blocking me access to AI Vanarus. When all was dealt with, I had 3 capitals, and Ulm and Machaka killed Pan, but were weakened in the process. Ashdod (who I assume killed Caelum just like I killed Jotun) was eating Abysia and was preparing for an inevitable throne rush.

Luckily, I had less thrones than him, so it was easy enough to diplomance against him. I was pretty shocked by my allies' incompetence, to be honest. First, look at the province graph. They were attacking like 1 per turn. Second, at one point Ashdod had his H3 summons and thugs ready for a thronerush, and I had to spend my own gems to save Machaka's indie (!) throne 1 province away from his cap circle. On turn 50. Indie throne on turn 50. Let that sink in.

Anyway, after Ashdod went AI because of a failed throne rush I had seraphs and all the crazy shit they can cast researched. I started half-assing turns and teleporting shit on remaining thrones. If I cared more I could've ended the game earlier, I guess. Machaka and Ulm annoyed me a little by killing my seraph and a few other angels, but I was snowballing so hard that I didn't even care about lost provinces. I basically had one half of a seraph in gem income per turn.

>>187361187
Take an early expander fully knowing it'll probably get you about five provinces then die to hidden cloud mages. If that's not worth it to you, then don't take an expander.
If you don't blind expand like a madman, and you expand turn 2 into hidden cloud mages, you're in a rough spot but its not the end of the world, since on the basis you were expecting him to die by turn 5 anyway, you just stunted your expansion.

If you want to take an expander and use him to cast mid game magic (mother oak probably) then only send him with expansion parties, and/or only attack deer tribe and militia/heavy infantry/archer provinces.

>>187376985
Fuck off Sy

>>187377046
>Can't stop winning all these games, lads.
>cant even beat therodos

>>187376985
ur gonna need a lot more wins to compensate losing to Jomon

>>187376985
Something worth noting. I used summod's flagellant pillaging only like twice. This was intentional. In my opinion that mechanic is super OP in its current state. You can get more flags than Ermor has skellies. And they're all sacred as well. Anyway, I deliberately set up concentration recruitment camps near my capital as soon as possible (temples everywhere). You can see the results on dominion graph.

Knights proved really useful with 125% resources. Basically, B9N9 heavily armored sacreds from every fort with crossbowmen support in MA. Nothing to grumble about. Then I transitioned into angels, of course, and with summod buffs they're really great. I even think Seraphs are overbuffed. I have my calculations somewhere, but with gift of reason (that my summoned ivy lords were casting) you get seraph + 3 harbingers for 88 pearls. This is EXTREMELY powerful. And I only used my meme astral tempest/fire storm/wrathful skies combo once.

>>187377220
>loses to thero
>loses to jomon
Sy loses to oceania next confirmed.

Today I got elfed lads. It's true what Yomi said that carto revision gave me a favourable start with 5 farmlands and now most of that is in the hands of tribless Vanheim. You do the math.

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>>187377481
forgot pic

>>187377305
Fuck off Sy no one likes how you brag about how you can beat us all one handed

>>187377562
gimme a screencap of conquered provinces, I need it for reasons

>>187376985
You're really fixated on that throne near my cap, aren't you? You can see the fucking incone graph, I didn't have the money to buy troops. In fact, I don't think I bought any troops at all after turn 25 or so. Pan killing my first two forts before they finished kind of fucked me.

>>187377610
In a rare but conceivable occurrence that you're not pretending to be retarded, I'm not Sy.

>>187377687
You don't need troops to take a crystal amazon throne, m8.

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>>187377481
Furthermore if you are concerned by tribless elves blobbing out of control but you don't border them (yet) you can help the effort by attacking Yomi who started off as a bat enabler and is now an elf enabler. If it wasn't for his dumb attack on me 4 turns ago I would have preemptively stuck Vanheim by now and would have lessened the elfing.

Yomi is pretty not-good. He has conj 5 and yet lost a battle against what was basically some animals and erf meld.

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>>187376501
there's nothing to get, they just look funny

>>187377723
Also, is Word of Power always that strong? Paralyzing Barathus for 38 rounds in one cast seems pretty punishing.

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>>187376985
I managed to delay your victory by one whole turn by killing 163+ gems worth of shit using only 38 gems.

I knew I wasn't going to win but the reaction was priceless.

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>>187377647
here you go.

i'm basically a failed state at this point. no chance of winning. thanks to Yomi mostly who decided to drag me down to irrelevancy with him after his 8 province expansion. also partly thanks to the failed memebuild i went for: drain 3 machaka. i wanted to try and control the spread of my drain scales to my lab provinces using heretics but i fucked it up and the drain scales spread there.

i'll stick around though and try to make life hell for Yomi and Vanheim.

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>>187376968

>>187378220
Could you just distinguish his hair a little more from his face? His hair is just a little bit darker than his skin.

>>187378264
I like his face. Reminds me of animal from the muppets.

>>187378205
a lil bit more high-res, if you could

>>187377751
If I didn't attack you then I would be a faggot enabler; arguably worse.

>>187378531
>mad cause bad

thank you for losing the battle you had no business losing by the way ;^)

>>187378608
I don't really understand how this was a 100% win no matter what to be honest.

>>187378205
Those machaka sacreds look godawful lol

>>187378745
You had conj 5 and F gemmed mage support and turmoil and demons and fliers.

I had alt 2, less mages and some animals.

>>187378745
I would only have been a 100% win if you were competent though.

>>187378818
Hmmm.
I think I probably should have brought troops other than aka-oni and konoha tengu.
>>187378883
That's a pretty high bar to achieve. I'm glad I made you upset though.

>>187378931
I admit that you did. Sucks to have a promising game ruined by a dumb attack like yours.

I badly need to work on my noob whispering. Should have tried for a """""NAP"""" like some other players do.

>>187379059
My friend told me that I should always attack my biggest neighbour as soon as I hit my first relevant research goal or reach critical mass. It seems like good advice, staying irrelevant would be boring.

>>187377751
You had an army twice the size of his
plus more mages
plus pretender support
against a guy who recruits amazons

>>187379126
You should never end up with 8 provs after expansion in the first place.

>>187379208
Says the guy who starts with Myrmecoleon

Our thoughts and prayers are with Machaka. Sending positive energy their way.

>>187379208
I do realize.
>>187379192
To be fair that was a merc.

>>187379192
He had conj 5 F Elemetnal spam and could burn away all that chaff easy-peasy but he fucked up his positioning.

>>187379294
He could have went Earth Serpent but instead took a Great Sage so that he can get spells he doesn't know how to use out faster.

>>187379354
which would only matter if he scripted his shit to spam elementals
plus dumped all his fire gems into his army mages

>>187379435
he fucking did though

>>187379354
How should I have positioned better?

>>187379630
Haven't seen that battle, but probably should have placed elemental spammers in front of your troops.

>>187365542
>>187365821
Please don't

>>187379630
We are still at war so forgive me for not telling you.

Once you are dead I'll tell you everything you did wrong.

Come blitzzzz

I need a few more "elfed by vanheim" pics

>>187381134
For what purpose.

>>187381134
t. Moat

>>187381134
I already showed the full extent of the elfing. >>187378205

>>187381134
Give it a rest, tolkein.

>>187378205
>still have AT LEAST 5 unsieged forts
>""""""""""""elfed""""""""""""""

>>187365196
50% thrones to win is usually standard.
Common events are usually yes.
You can consider bumping magic sites by 10 points, makes gems as common as in EA, but this is up to personal preference.

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I-I sent in my pretender to a game of strangers
Here I go

>>187381881
>Income most likely cut in half
>Occupied fighting Yomi
>Have to deal with F9W9N9 vanhere
gg

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>>187381410
for this purpose

>>187382281
What game friendo

>>187382359
EarlyChocolate

>>187382317
Don't count your memes before they worked Moat.

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>>187382447
Who the fuck is Moat? I'm Disnag.

>>187382412
http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=EarlyChocolate
Why is it called EarlyChocolate when it doesn't have chocolate thrones?

>>187382802
>tfw R'lyeh still isnt fucking deleted

>>187382553
Moat is the elf. The meme would be a lot better if you found a picture of some real elfing. This one is 4/10 at best.

My greatest alpha strike so far was attacking 24 provinces as Therodos

Deyja! I was told that you went AI, but could you please give some feedback?
So far I want to increase the necromancer's gold cost from 85 to 120, and replace her 50%D random with 50%E random. Should I also make liches and vampire lords StR - they seem powerful. In addition, D3 recruitable anywhere Queens of the Dead look way too good. Maybe I should make them D2H2 or make them cap-only StR?
t. Strabo

>>187383376
Also, would like the hear from people who fought Deyja. What caused you the most problems?

>>187357701
>clears
>horror marks

how about no

Man, I suck at positioning. Is it okay for mages to be in the center if I want them to cast Earth Meld?

EarlyVanilla has like no space at all for some reason. It feels like 10 players were squeezed into a map twice smaller than normal.

>>187385947
>start with twice as many provinces as usual
>game feels twice as small
Gee I wonder why.

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that awkward moment when your postit note commander makes it into the hall of fame

>>187385630
Earth Meld is range 20, which is a bit short.

If you're expecting their frontline to start near the front of the field or to move forward to meet your troops, that positioning should be fine.

If your enemy deploys their troops further back and your troops move forward to meet them, you'll likely be out of range.

>>187320716
Bug report:
High Priest has Elegist, but not an Elegist value. Format should be "Elegist n", where n is the number added to priest levels for the purpose of recalling your god.

Autospellrepeatl also needs an argument: "spell n", where "spell" is the spell you want cast and n is the number of times it's cast per round.
Cherub has both "#holy" and "#sacred".
Holy Book has a "damage" tag instead of "dmg"
Cherub Stun has "dt_stun 20" instead of "dt_stun" and a seperate "dmg 20".
Bugs(?):
Black Knight is a multihero but a generic angel archer is a unique hero.


If you're willing to explain what spells you were trying to make but couldn't, I might be able to help.

>>187332210
You can only take a chest wound once. All hearts after the first are free.

>>187388586
>Black Knight is a multihero but a generic angel archer is a unique hero.
Fucking id numbers. Also originally I was going to add a commander to both the crusade spells (angel mage for the angel crusade and stone priest for the statue one) and possibly have the angel one be a far summon.

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Congratulations to Nerita for taking his turn in a timely manner! Elludia is back to his old tricks again, and he has a new best friend, Smerv.

>>187389337
What the fuck nations are these

>>187389514
Smerv, Lentia, Elludia, Avernum, Phlegton, Neritia, Sawaiki, and Doom.

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Hello, friends!

Dont you think it's great when so many things are happening all the time that there's always something to report on?
Well, we do think its great.

Today's main stories:

>DOUBLE KILL!
This turn 2 nations have been completely vanquished at the same time! And in both cases their pretenders had the same name! Is this just a Coincidence, or perhaps some higher plan is at work here?
Either way, both Pythons are fucking dead now, and it seems Mictlan is about to join them soon too. But unlike them, at least Mictlan put up an actual fight.

>Lanka clearly stronger after going AI
Lanka has been amassing its undead troops for a while now, and this turn it has decided to knock on Ur's Fortress.

Majority of Lanka's army consisted of undeads, but also included their weird Prophet guy.
The undead monkeys dont make for strong warriors though, so despite their massive numerical advantage, Lanka's forces have been routed. The prophet was also able to retreat, but not before we gave him a few parting gifts that hopefully will take a while to heal.

>>187388047
Okay, thanks. I tried slowing down my army for now (Hold and attack).

>>187388586
>Autospellrepeatlatl, the weapon Mictlan uses to fling spellspears many times

Is there a cap on how much you can boost a magic path via communion/empowering/wish?
If so, do most spells still scale only up to level 10 or can they go further in regards of damage/magic penetration/increased effects

>>187394186
I dont think there is a cap. I remember one dude empowered his lich with the debug mod to the point where it could punch doom horrors to death and shrug off wishing for death.

>>187394469
There is a cap on god creation though. But if you want to go past 10 for some reason you can once you get them in game.

>>187394469
Daaaaamn, so a REALLY fuckhuge communion casting an AoE spell could annihilate an entire army with a single spell?

>>187394919
yes

>>187394919
>annihilate an entire army with a single spell?
All you need is E2A1 for that

Whos the god atlantis makes a deal with in LA anyway?

>>187395920
It's (you).

>>187376501
reddit-tier memery.

>>187396429
But I picked a bog standard monolith with no D, magic or otherwise.

>>187396620
You're just chilling on the beach in Alaska when some weird frogs come up to you and ask if you would be their god.

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>>187387516
Could've been worse.

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>>187390796
I enjoy those reports

>>187397151
seconded

>>187394186
>>187394919
Someone tested, communion boost caps out at +6 from your base skill.

Scaling via other methods is, as far as I know, uncapped.

>>187395920
A dead one

>>187396620
You wrestled out the power from the dead god's weak grip

Need a 2 hour extension please!

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I don't only do fsjals

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bump nigga

Is Lemuria still garbage?

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Fantastic use of battle elephants

>>187404470
Pffft HAHAHAHA. Stay bad, meatbag.

Come blitzzz

Regeneration doesn't work on lifeless targets, but what about undeads without the lifeless attribute?

>>187405494
It works as a bless on sacred statues, how lively those could be?

>>187404512
So... has it been buffed? Or is it the same old garbage it was before?

>>187405653
I should have been more specific: regeneration as a spell, does it work on undeads not lifeless?
Item regeneration (so limited regeneration), does it work on them?
Finally the N9 bless, does it work on them? (from your answer i'd say yes)

>>187385579
You know they wear off while a pretender is dead, right?

>>187405494
Regeneration works on tarts, so the answer is yes.

Anyone else having trouble with llamaserver?
I haven't gotten a turn normally in two days, every time I had to send a resend request, sometimes multiple times.

>>187407173
Check your junk mail, same thing was happening to me.

>>187407363
Oh shit
Fucking google kikes

>>187407721
I know right?

>>187407903
Literally the first time "check your spam folder" has ever worked with a problem

Reminder time! MArvelous is looking for players!
http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=MArvelous

>MA
>Summod, Worthy Heroes
>Carto map!
Sign up while you can these spots are going fast!

>>187410015
>Carto map!
ECH

>>187410015
>Carto map
says Aran my dude

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>>187410852
>SHU 4 LIFE

>>187410852
>Rlyeh asked to be deleted before the game starts
>Submits a Pretender named Python
>Restart in 3... 2.. 1...

>>187410852
Nigger I'm sorry but I aint playing in two games that I didnt want to join.

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Somebody asked for my MA Mari pretender. Here it is. I it wasn't 125% resources game, I'd obviously up production. If I was tryharding, I'd probably empower it into F1 for soul contracts when I got garnets. Had 800 slaves by turn 59.

>tfw you have serious regrets about your game

>>187414836
Which game?

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>>187401230
>mfw I'll get home 10 minutes after I stale.

>>187415148
seeeecret (also though mostly one, slightly for multiple games)

I don't regret joining, just some pretender design and turn order regrets

>>187415373

How is that game going anyway?

>>187417987
Pretty good I'd say. Deyja is salty as fuck because people are killing him.
RIP SANDRO

>>187418183

Deya went AI mate

>>187418504
Oh shit. I've been thinking about casting Eyes of God and sharing the map.

>>187414351
You get enough gems to empower to f1 in like, the first two years, even if you don't sitesearch at all

>>187418183
It goes alright. Looks like Sawaiki has recently been losing ground to Lentia in their underwater war. Dejya is pretty much dead, I joined in on an already-underway war on them because I subbed into a research set that was good versus their undead. When I was fighting them, they weren't even blessing their n9d9 sacred heavy undead knights.

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What the fuck.

>>187420374
>What the fuck.
What the fuck?

join gaem
http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=MArvelous

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>>187420756
What the fuck!

>>187421514
I see only liberals who think "Diversity is our strength" play this game
s m h
One summon of trolls, claymen, and niggas

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>>187410852
>was shilling the game hard for a week and doesn't get the max it could have been
>gets beat by a game made yesterday

>>187421748
It was a MEme game in EA. No one wants to play ME and we had a lot of EA games recently.

>>187421210
Hope you guys don't start within the next few hours, 'cause I'm heading to work.

>>187421210
WE'RE FULL

ADMIN PLEASE GEN THE MAP

Jesus fucking christ that was fast. Alright I'll gen three maps and start up a strawpoll we can start the first turn in a few hours unless everybody votes really fast.

>>187421748
Magic Enhanced is a fucking unbalanced mess, to be fair.

Ctis staled again. I'm in need of a sub. Wrath of God killed all my scouts so I can't say their position for certain, but I believe they have Utgard's cap and border a massive Xibalba. N9B9 bless.

It's an RP game but we haven't talked much. Ask xib or patala what they're like.

>>187425018
>Wrath of God killed all my scouts
I finally found a good use for Wrath of god

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Not sure of the best way to show off maps so I'll just convert them to crappy .jpg then link to the strawpoll on the game page.

This is MArvelous 1

>>187424382
Dominions is a fucking unbalanced mess, to be fair.

ME buffs several weak nations, therefore isn't ME less unbalanced than vanilla?

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This is MArvelous 2

>>187425569

one more spot for Shinuyama?

>>187426034
Fuck off were full

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And this is the third option MArvelous 3

I'll load em into my dominions maps to see if they are any different in terms of province numbers land/sea and then put the strawpoll up.

I don't think I have to do any editing with these maps to get the thrones to work so they will probably be as they are.

wish this game was ftp

>>187426241
Hello CD nigger, has anyone given you a key yet?

>>187426306
no1 will giv me cd key

>>187426034
I would but Carto only generates with specific numbers of players I'd have to bump it up to like 16 which is a much longer game than advertised. I will probably host a Late Age game in a week or two though.

I set up the strawpoll on the game page but I guess I'll also place it here.
http://www.strawpoll.me/13802336

>>187425664
In doing so it also buffs already powerful nations to broken levels. I'll admit there is some stuff I like, such as the Man changes.
And I can sort of appreciate how batshit crazy it makes the late game with stuff like the new artifacts and Reach Through Dimensions.

>>187425569
>>187425791
>>187426127
>>187426675
Concerning the land/sea # of provinces
MArvelous1 - 151 land 41sea
MArvelous2 - 153 land 39 sea
MArvelous3 - 148 land 44 sea