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>Wasn't playing Roll Souls 3: The Sippening
>>187136581

>READ ME BEFORE POSTING, IF YOU'RE NEW
https://pastebin.com/Txe190aw

>Character Planner
https://www.mugenmonkey.com/

>DARK SOULS 3
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1u8Mak1goSv4g73g16XsWV4sJelDQUatWkP2kcO6GVAA/pub
>Full Soundtrack
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B66vvDQ_rAMyS29wdTR6ajZsczQ
>Useful PvP data
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSfgmZuvPRH-V4tNCBopaHAuRjuR3AxytjlBiaoICHC6cWGYzkg1POxHyUxBoJAWAUtFHOPUVte0kWI/pubhtml?gid=0

>DARK SOULS 2
https://pastebin.com/FiDXYjfs

>DARK SOULS
https://pastebin.com/Rtb5w9yS

>DEMON'S SOULS
https://pastebin.com/tehcGm75

>BLOODBORNE
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1sItpr6PHpoEiFbtFIBtPO4UNeNEpxuztHteANTJRHDU/edit#heading=h.od90ylbez0rz
Bloodborne discussion is welcome here, but you'll get more help in their general: >>>/vg/bbg

>KING'S FIELD
http://pastebin.com/G8zw0sc3

>COMMUNITY
Discord (READ THE README BEFORE JOINING): https://discord.gg/C3AX2Hk
Player list: https://pastebin.com/9hG50KHX
Steam group: http://steamcommunity.com/groups/DarkSoulsGeneral
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First for why is King's Field not on PSN
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>>187243848
For future OP makers add SoulsPlanner to the character planner section, I personally find it much better.

http://soulsplanner.com/
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OK SL50 at pontiffs is officially dead, what's the next populated meta?
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Third for forbidden romance!

>>187244026
Well at least you can probably run King's Field games decently on an emulator. The PS3 emulator for DeS takes quite a while longer to be actually playable.
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>>187244583
Just invade bro
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>>187244612
Yeah but my laptop sucks complete ass. It struggles with a lot of games it shouldn't.
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>>187244689
I am but it's taking forever.
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>>187244780
Sl60 anywhere post pontiff.
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>>187244780
Try SL40 Central Irithyll/Carthus Part 2 or SL30 Farron Keep
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>>187244780
SL80 Grand Archives
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Nice double riposte on Demon in Pain
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>>187245497
I don't know how we did that, but we did it pretty well. I'll be at the Mausoleum Bonfire
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>Start a new character
>Invade someone in Heides Tower of Flame
>They're fatrolling,drinking constantly,overall playing really bad
>Fuck around with them for a while and then kill them
>Feel bad
>Check out their profile to see if they're a new player
>"60 Hours of DS2 playtime"
>???????????????
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When you do guys point down? For me it's any of these :
>host is ganking
>host spams the parry button / uses a Caestus
>host motions for an "honor duel" but starts chugging when they start losing
>it's a blue phantom
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>>187245804
Let me think.
>When I need someone to take a look at something somewhere below us
>When I need someone to look at something on the floor
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why would someone backstab a friendly invader it makes me so sad
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>>187246389
>friendly invader
There's no such thing.
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>DeS doesn't have Bed of Chaos
>DS2 doesn't have Bed of Chaos
>DS3 doesn't have Bed of Chaos
>BB doesn't have Bed of Chaos

>DS1 has Bed of Chaos
How is this not the shittiest game in the series?
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>>187246389
>friendly invader
You deserve it for all the faggotry that being a "friendly invader" entails
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>>187246658
>one boss ruins the entire game
This is some low quality bait here.
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>>187246658
>struggling with a boss that dies in 3 hits
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>>187246658
Because one bad boss fight in a masterpiece of a game doesn't mean it's a bad game. Rather have one memorably bland boss fight than all the filler bosses in DS2.
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>>187246594
>>187246943
I mean going full fallen knight tier and attacking ever invader you see right away is ok I guess
But playing along with it while obviously just looking for an opportunity to get a backstab is just silly
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SNO meet you at the next bonfire I'm gonna run through
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>>187245804
Never because I'm not a teenager.
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>>187247390
>not using character names
Okay, I'll be waiting for you. Good luck.
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>friendly invader
Quite the oxymoron.
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>>187247013
>masterpiece of a game
>most bland encounters in the entire series
I've spent the last hour running past retarded fire-breathing fatties that only have the one attack that deals practically no damage if it hits and who themselves die in a single hit had I the patience or any incentive to kill them.
Bed of Chaos is the gnarliest bit of shit on the titanic turd that is this shit game. Can't wait for this crap to be over. After the wonderful Demon's Souls there's absolutely no excuse for this.
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>>187247527
How so?
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>>187247539
>wonderful Demon's Souls
Dragon God and Stonefang.
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>>187245108
>invade in a swamp
Yeah nah.
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>TFW never touched Faith until now

I take it Str and Faith is really good?
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>>187247743
I've done like 12 playthroughs across souls games and never touched faith either. Something about it doesn't click with me.
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>>187247743
"No."
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>>187247743
In 3 yes, but only because some of the best weapons in the game now are STR/FAI ones.

>Saint Bident
>Murky Hand Scythe
>FUCKING CRUCIFIX

Crucifix is the best single Faith weapon in the entire series on par with pre-nerf Defender's Greatsword in 2.
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>>187247539
That whole area is considered the worst in the game, anon. It's the one that was most obviously rushed. Quit nitpicking.
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>>187245497
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>>187247702
Dragon God is easy and has no attacks that can instantly kill you by knocking you into the abyss. I figured out the fight and killed him on my first try, and each subsequent run has only been easier.
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>>187247743
Depends on which game. FTH in DS3 is actually pretty good and has a lot of offensive capability. You can also do shit like Blessed Infused LKGS and absolutely stomp shit.
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>>187247960

Doesn't faith boost buffs like the resins?
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>>187247726
>He doesn't track hosts like an animal while they're poisoned
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>>187248270
It does not boost the power of resins at all, it did that in no game in the series. Faith boosts the power of spell buffs associated with it, Dark Blade, Darkmoon Blade, Lightning Blade. There is also Blessed Weapon but that is a non-scaling buff that instead gives a damage percentage to how much physical AR your weapon has. Ideally for the first three buffs you want to cast them with 60 Faith and Yorshka's Chime.
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>Manikin Claws gets a unique name when refined

Things you never knew and never needed to know
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I got nailed by a connection error, I needed to leave anyway.
Thanks for having me, though, it was a lot of fun.
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>>187248627
Good times anon
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>beat up gaping dragon in 1 try
>pretty happy with myself, go back to asylum
>beat everything up real good
>asylum demon rips me a new asshole

is there something that counters the shockwave thing?
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>>187249016
Yeah, staying the fuck away when he does it.
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>>187249016
>is there something that counters the shockwave thing?
Backing up
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>>187249016
Best done without locking onto him.
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>>187249016
Always stay behind him, fight him unlocked to be able to run behind him easily. If you stay a few steps behind him, you won't get hit. Use the shield you can grab from Oscar, it has like 80% magic block, the best in ds1 (aside from maybe Havel's), so if you're not sure if you're far enough, just raise it. Keep some stamina to run/block at all times, and take it slow, this motherfucker has lots of health. What's your weapon&upgrade level ?
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Whats the easiest way to kill a host and 4 phantoms gangbanging you? Shit is still dumb, especially since red friendly fire is a thing...
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>>187248359
Does the invader get poisoned too?
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>>187249016
Stay behind his thicc ass
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>>187248591
so what is it
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>>187249362
drake sword

I'm making a balder side sword, it's at +7 but hasn't outstripped drake yet. I also have a +5 longsword I plan on making divine once I find some green titanite.
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>>187249848
Skilled, same as the Caestus gets
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>kill Bed of Chaos
>go look for Quelana to receive quest reward
>no Quelana
>locked out of ascended pyromancy flame forever
I fucking hate this shitshow of a "game"
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>>187249891
oh shit, nice drop on the balder sword. I got it on my rapier run, but I feel like it'd be cheating on Ricard's. Also, it can't be that much weaker than the Drake sword at +7 unless you have no dex whatsoever

>>187248591
>>187249898
What is the Dark Dark Sword's name again
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>>187250103
Mega dark sword
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>>187250103
Reinforced Dark Sword I think
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>>187250103
I have a 19 dex atm, haven't leveled it in quite a while.
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>>187250103
Darkest sword
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>>187249763
Yes, but you should have infinite moss anyway. Most phantoms/hosts don't because they're idiots
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>>187250103
Darker Sword
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>>187250103
Quite dark sword
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>TFW you don't mind being invaded but you barely get invasions unless you have phantoms.

Thanks miyazaki
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>>187250103
BLACKED Sword
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>>187250103
DARK Sword
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>>187244720
>laptop gaming
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>>187244026
Not popular enough. Honestly King's Field was pretty shit. Armored Core 1 and Eternal Ring are on PSN though, and Eternal Ring is basically a refined version of KF1-3 gameplay.
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Would anybody on PS4 Dark Souls 3 be willing to drop a Moonlight Great sword? Maybe some staves or something. Can you drop spells?

Thinking about doing a Ludwig cosplay.
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>>187249891
>it's at +7 but hasn't outstripped drake yet.
Upgrade level matters less than scaling in DS1.

Balder Side Sword +15 beats Drake Sword +5 as long as you have at least 22 dex. So a +7 BSS should be stronger than a Drake Sword +3 as long as you have 22+ dex.

At 40 dex, +15 BSS should have ~30% more damage than a +5 drake sword.
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>>187249016
Block it with the Crest Shield that you get from Oscar on the return visit. 80% magic damage reduction.
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>>187251178
You cannot drop spells.
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well lads now that I realize how trash Freides scythe is what do I do with this build, it's just 40/60 dex int
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>>187251486

Damnit. Well, that's not a big deal.
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>>187247743
str+fth is the best PvE build in pretty much every game in the series because it always has the highest damage offensive buffs, highest scaling for physical damage, best damage type (most enemies are weak to lightning) and best offensive and defensive buffs

It doesn't matter what game you're in, lightning infusion + great magic barrier + heal will carry you through most/all bosses.
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Ask a theorycrafter anything.
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>>187251508
At least you won't need a Sage Ring to cast.
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>>187251864
What kind of car do you drive?
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>>187252003
2017 RAV4 Hybrid
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>>187251864
Can I see your tier list?
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>>187251864
How does it feel to be hollow?
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>>187251864
Do you have a discord?
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>>187251178
If you're willing to wait about 30 minutes i can get you one.
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>>187251864
Are you c-cute...?
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>>187252504

you're a saint, man

I'll just chill until then
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>>187251864
Are you a virgin?
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>>187249745
You force the host and his 4 phantoms to waste time and Estus against mobs, and take the opportunity to try to kill phantoms or the host while they're busy.
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>>187251508
Go respec for free.
Or - sharp LS with great magic weapon buff.
Black knight shield and a court sorcerers staff with fucking nukes lad.
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>>187249745
trick the host to falling to their death with a good combo of obscuring ring + milwood greatbow, or force

invasions are always about the environment, not builds. If you can't gimmick kill them through falls or mobs, then it's a war of attrition and you will always lose.
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>Lightning Bolts have a higher AR than Dragonslayer Lightning Arrows

Explain
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>>187251508
aquamarine dagger or crystal sage rapier
sellsword twinblades with crystal magic weapon

or respect to str/int and go MLGS or GSOJ or Heysel Pick
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I have some questions
why is this kid's face so weird
who chose that ugly ass wallpaper
and how do I properly use Ricard's in pve, should I go back to the normal rapier ? I don't want to use the estoc.
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>>187253473
But that's wrong. Build is important too, and environment is definitely a huge factor, but invasions are about mindset.

The war of attrition works fine if you're any good at it.
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on a dex build what's the best infusion for a riposting dagger: sharp, deep or fire?
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>>187254087

chaos until they fix it
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>>187253762
well fuck me, I got invaded in anal rodeo by some giantdad guy with a fucking BKH, he couldn't even get his shitty meme right
needless to say he was lag-backstabbed me because how the fuck does one enjoy ds1 pvp
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>>187253762
REMOVE FROG
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>>187254352
?? even with base int and faith?
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>>187253762
That's probably some random picture a dude at From found when putting "renaissance painting" into japanese google.
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>>187253505
The bolt damage is only one part of the equation. The damage of the bow itself is the other. Between crossbows and greatbows, which do you think has the most potential for damage?
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Any anons willing to help me obtain some rings for a twin on scholar PS4? RoB+2, Flynn, and Illusory Conqueror.
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Arstor's Spear + Ring of the Evil Eye

y/n
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>>187254663

*twink
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>>187252757
Hopping on now, where you want to meet?
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wtf

did they change the rolling in ds3?

i feel so floaty
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>>187254691
1. If you're going to do that, best to use Evil Eye +3.

2. Only for low SL invading, where the HP recovery will benefit you disproportionately.

3. Maybe also include SPR on top of that if you really want to be an asshole.
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>>187254631
But it doesn't make any sense that the lightning bolts have higher AR than the lightning greatarrows
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>>187255070

highwall works for me

password dsg work?
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>>187253762
>why is this kid's face so weird
I think those are all pictures of actual paintings IRL that they threw in the game at the last minute. I think it was originally supposed to be pictures of the developers.

>who chose that ugly ass wallpaper
Also thrown into the game at the last minute.

>and how do I properly use Ricard's in pve, should I go back to the normal rapier ? I don't want to use the estoc.
If you press R2 after doing a strong attack and time it right, you do a 5 hit combo, which staggers most enemies. Works great, but you gotta practice the timing. Basically hit R2 right as the previous attack ends and keep mashing it.
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>>187255216
On my way
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>>187255515
Yeah, I can use the 5-hit combo, but it's rather hard to actually use against enemies, and most of the time I figure I'd rather just R1 spam them to death. I mostly just use it as a stylish finisher, I guess. Didn't think about using it for staggering purposes though, I'll try that
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>>187255568

awesome thank you
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>>187255568

thank you, my man
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>>187255839
>>187256015
You're welcome mate
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Alright, when are you supposed to dodge Super Josh's electric buttslam on midroll ? I always roll too early or too late
Some guy kindled the bonfire three times while I was fighting giving me more estus, but I still died because I suck dicks.
Fuck.
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>>187250796
>implying I ever use it
Seriously, opening my VPN can blue screen it.
>>187250925
I'll check out Eternal Ring. And Shadow Tower. Thanks.
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>>187256593
You back off and don't let it hit.
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>that last patch
what's the point?
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>>187256593
Get naked and quickroll
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>>187257134
Tumblebuff/forcecasting
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>>187257134
To fix forcebuffing and boss invading
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>>187257142
I mean armor is pretty much the reason I play those games, that'd be going against all my principles
>>187257107
Do I need to run across the entire damn room ? It feels like I could be in Ash Lake and it'd still hit me.
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>>187257538
Are you fatrolling?
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>>187257538
learn to tell when he starts to wind up, don't roll when he lands, start backing off way before that point. Then just run in the opposite direction. If you have a shield up, you can also just block most of the damage. It gets weaker the further away you are.
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>host dies before you even land in the Midir pit
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>>187258278
This is why you never do Midir with randoms. Ever.
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>>187258204
>it gets weaker the further away you are
well fuck I didn't know that
I usually beat biggie & smoll without too much trouble, but damn this run I'm dealing far less damage than usual, so I actually have to pay attention and shit, I feel like smough's tells are somewhat hard to read though. I'll get a couple levels to use great magic weapon instead of magic weapon, and my armor to +6 while I'm at it
I'll try super drake instead if I can't do it, I feel like ornstein is easier to read, haven't done super ornstein in forever though
also a +10 ricard's rapier w/ magic weapon and 33 dex doing 50 damage to ornstein is outrageous
>>187258052
I'm midrolling
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>>187250796
Not that bad desu.
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>>187258681
are you using oolacile ivory catalyst? That would give you the best buff damage. If not, you might be better off using pine resin since Smough is weak to lightning.
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>>187257207
>>187257301
I don't like how they're fixing all the fun glitches desu
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Best miracles for PvP?
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What is a good weapon to use for both Co-Op and PVP at 45?

I don't want some weird meta shit like Dark Hand.

I was originally using Executioner's Greatsword for Co-Op because the FP regen on kills is amazing for spamming Millwood Greatbow bombs. But I honestly don't like using the Executioner's Greatsword. And it feels somewhat lacking in damage.
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>>187259341
Eh, for every weak weapon that it made viable you had eight million people wandering around with an exile greatsword that was swinging for 650 damage R1s. It was silly.
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>>187259298
I'm out of resins and I don't feel like running all the way back to firelink shrine
and I just did a caster playthrough and somehow forgot about the ivory catalyst
well, if everything else fails I'll run back to darkroot I guess, at least I know of sen's shortcut now
thanks me reminding me of this anon holy fuck I'm retarded
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>>187259508
Smough can be bled out very easily, also, so magic bandit knife might be better.
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>SL20 Dancer
fuck this, anyone mind helping me on PS4? pass dsg
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>>187259341
It was fun while it lasted
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You know, in terms of level design Carthus Catacombs is distinctly mediocre, but it's a great zone to invade in.
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>>187260316
Protip - Master's Garb and a Blood infused Bandit Knife
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>>187260316
Gotcha senpai
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Anon from Catacombs here.
I think I am lost again.
I managed to ring the First Bell, found a Giant Gate with Siegward. Went to the forest and killed a butterfly and after many tries a Hydra. Got rekt by havel until I learnt he was easy to backstab. Again found myself at burg so I went back and explored forest more and found a bonfire behind Black Knight, but it takes me to a place with really strong mini-dragons, and narrow pathway. I followed it but ended up in a place where enemies were facing away from me, so I take it this path is also one of those things I shouldn't do so I homeward boned out.
So now I am lost?
Do I have to buy "Crest of Artorias" to progress forward?
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What's a weapon you love but never see used besides using it yourself?

For me it's the Reinforced Club.
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>>187260873
Lucerne
Warpick before the hyperarmor patch
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>>187260873
Carthus Shotel
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>>187260734
You can buy the crest of artorias or explore the lake behind the hydra, there's a ladder there.

They both go to the same place, but neither are necessary to go right now.

Check your inventory. Before the gargoyles you should have picked up a key, it opens the other door on the bridge with the red dragon, before the giant gate area (sen's fortress). This will lead you to lower undead burg, which is the path to the second bell.
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>>187260873
Harald Fucksword

I love this fucking thing. The WA is amazing and people just ignore it in favour of the Exile Memesword
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>>187260873
Battle Axe
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Ahhh fuck, sorry anon that was my last humanity, appreciate the effort though
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>>187261772
You can pick up reds unembered right? I can drop you a couple.
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>>187261912
Yeah they do, hold on real quick I gotta go fetch another
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>>187260316
Still here?
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>Invade
>'Phantom Star Platinum summoned'
>Oh boy here we go
>It's actually some guy dressed as a stand and using Demon Fists while the host punches the air in the background

I didn't have the heart to kill them, so I played poorly and lost on purpose
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>>187249969
NG+, boi.
>>187258204
Are you sure? I know it does more damage close but because of the physical buttslam hitting you
>>187259484
This, it only made cancer weapons cancerer and next to forced an elemental+buff meta. Can't do the glitch? You get royally fucked.
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>>187262184
My game crashed what the fuck
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>>187262064
Damn got a connection error as I was running up
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>>187262449
Ah so that's what happened
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>>187262423
>Are you sure?
It's been a while since I fought him, but I think each lightning bolt has its own hitbox and if you get closer, you get hit by more of them at once.
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>>187262449
Oh wow that happens?
Still need help?
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So is Dark souls 3 officially done now? Is this the last patch it will ever get?
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>>187262551
That makes sense and I haven't fought o&s in over a year, I could be wrong
In fact, I've sorely been trying to get that randomizer mod to work just so I can get back into it
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>>187262684
Unless more exploits are discovered, yes. Dark Souls has been "done" since the last DLC dropped, since then the patches have all been based around complaints to Bandai about exploits, glitches, or movesets/hitboxes not working properly (especially with a lot of the DLC wepaons). That's a sign that they aren't fixing or improving things, they're just avoiding controversy.
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How is Arstor's Spear?
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>>187262523
Finally, thanks a ton anon. Do you want your humanity back?
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>>187262915
Mediocrity redefined
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Anyone on PS4 want to do some PvP?
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>>187262947
Nah I'm good man keep on trucking. Shalom!
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>>187262959
That's such a shame. I love spears and poison.
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>>187263036
Sounds like a good low level invasion weapon since newcomers won't have any moss on them.
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>>187262959
Better than the Rotten Ghru Spear...
>>187262987
I'm up. Gotta practice with my Sorceress.
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What the fuck was the point of changing Pestilent Mercury to Pestilent Mist? Especially after so long?
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>>187263145
Do you want to 1v1 duel, brawl, 2v2? Anything's good with me.
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>>187263105
By the time you poison them, you'll likely have killed them anyway.

Arstor's Spear is the weapon I really, really want to be good. Only it's not.
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>>187263215
I'm up for anything. Let's start from a duel.
Where to and pass?
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>>187263368
Round Plaza with the pass being: sorc
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Does anyone have the latest up to date weapon tier picture?
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>>187263145
Being better than the rotten ghru spear sets the bar somewhere beneath the floor of Lucifer's wine cellar.
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>>187261450
Oh thank you. Found the door that leads to lower burg. I had completely forgotten about this. Managed to find a shortcut to bonfire right away as well.
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>>187263535
Update to include spells is [soon]. Will probably adjust a few other placements on there after review since this is likely the last patch with no major balance adjustments in the future.
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>>187264340
Thanks a tonne, anon. I appreciate it.
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Oh. So that's what you guys meant by killing the dogs first.
Found a door that leads to "Depths" but I decided to take a trip back to firelink, and there is now group of clerics here who are going into catacombs. RIP Clerics.
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>>187264742
You're on the right path anon just keep trucking once you've gathered yourself back at firelink
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>>187264340
Is Saint Bident really that good in PvP?
What are the best stats for it?
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>>187264916
Saint Bident is fucking amazing now, it's the longest basic spear since the Gargoyle Flame Spear hitbox nerf and since the infusion changes it's one weakness of low AR has changed. The ideal way to use it is Heavy with 26/27 STR and 60 Faith so it gets optimal AR 2H which is what you want with a spear anyway. That gets it just over 400 physical AR since it has partial Faith scaling, and that 60 Faith also allows you to buff it with a full power Darkmoon/Dark Blade sending it to over 600 AR. While buffed it is a monster and even without buff you will have a hefty amount of pure physical damage which with Bident's range is still formidable.
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>>187264916
It is the longest spear, and is amazing with elemental infusions.
You can make it sharp or something and buff it too.
Stronger Gargoyle Spear.
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>>187264916
It's the longest spear, with high AR for it's weapon class, buffable, with additional faith phys scaling.

27 str 60 fth is a very efficient setup for it, but you can do pretty much whatever you like.

It's garbage in invasions, like all spears.
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>>187264742
Talk to people around firelink. Also, I usually postpone the trip back until I grab 2 items from the depths, it helps immensely going through the next areas, although since it's apparently your second time, it would be better to go slow
>>187264916
Heavy and buffed with dmb/lb. 27/12/40-60. It's also pretty gud as lightning or dark if you want it for chase and don't have time to buff.
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>>187264340
why is pontiff knight shield so low? It's got great elemental defenses and low stat requirements, does the low stability make it unusable?
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>>187265854
Yes.

It's stability is in the toilet and it doesn't even have 100% physical block.
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>>187265854
My guess is that it doesn't have 100% resistance against anything.
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>>187265854
Yes, it has 48 stability and only 73% physical defense at max upgrade level. It's stability is the lowest of the medium shields by far and that matters highly in PvP if you're looking to block a hit as that will burn into your stamina greatly. Compare the Pontiff Knight Shield to Ethereal Oak. Ethereal Oak has 100% physical defense, 60% or higher elemental resist for everything except fire, and five more stability. That's not even counting the innate regen. It's a direct downgrade to any other competent med shield, if you're looking to block specific elemental damage there will always be a better shield for your needs.
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>>187265854
It's stability is only slighter higher than the plank shield, it doesn't have 100% physical block, and it can't even parry.

Aesthetically it's great, but somebody on the dev team must have hated the fucking thing because the state it ended up in is downright tragic.
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>>187266115
>and it can't even parry.

Being a WA shield is one of the few positives I rated for it actually, WA med shields are generally preferable because parry frames on medium shields aren't good and WA shields allow you to use things like straight swords optimally with their terrific WAs.
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>>187266115
>>187266065
>>187266001
>>187265950
I'm guessing the justification is that the pontiff knight shield can be bought really early into the game, and for the stage you're at, it's exceptionally good at elemental defense. It's just completely outclassed later on.
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>>187266215
You can get the Lothric Knight Shield or Black Knight Shield just as early as Pontiff Shield, that's a horrible excuse if anything.
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>>187266269
those have high strength requirements though, and BKS has to be farmed, LKS isn't until after greirat's second scavenge, but PKS is from his first, if I remember right.

Just like how trash the zweihander is, but it has lower stat requirements than greatsword and can be bought super early, after undead settlement.
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>>187266370
the only comparable shield would be something like the Crest Shield or Dragon Crest Shield, which are still after the PKS but are the only ones that can be found before ithryll without farming but still have decent elemental resistances. They're both parry shields though.

I'm not saying PKS is good, but I can understand why the developers didn't make it better, since it would give little reason to use anything else later on.
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>>187265212
Wait, should I go into Depths or follow the clerics into catacombs? I can say I know upper catacombs well enough so If they aren't that far gone maybe there is some quest there?
As for now I've managed to find a man in a barrel and a bonfire down in depths. The key to it was in a weird position though It was a long trek back from firelink after I died to rat.
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>>187264340
I noticed even though some items are on a specific tier, they're lower than some others. Specifically the Scythes, more specifically, Corvian Great Scyte and Friede's Great Scythe.

Is this because they're good, but not almost top tier?
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>>187266193
Parry frames for med shields are perfectly fine for setup parries, which is what med shields with parry should be used for anyway.
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>>187266832
Depths. Going to the upper catacombs now vs later just affects various NPC questlines, but the depths is the intended area (in terms of progression, difficulty, and not requiring backtracking) that you need to go next.
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>>187266901
Yes, generally speaking things at the bottom of a section are considered worse than those above it and vice versa with items at the top. It's not as wide a gap compared to mid or top tier.
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>>187267027
Alright. I'll continue along exploring these tunnels.
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I'm planning on doing some kind of Dark Souls 1"total conversion" mod thing where its basically a fan edit with custom shit, like different balancing for weapons/stats etc, starts in NG+ and gravelorded etc, try to make the game more bleak etc

I also want to change enemy spawns, move things around. Put loads of Black Knights in Izalith instead of a bunch of the golem fucker spawns, put those Izalith Sarlac monsters in Blight Town instead, Put the white demon's from Anor Londo in forest or something, fill forest with way more stone guardians instead of treefuckers, replace some mushroom men spawns with big cats infront of sif, put some Anor londo Giant Knights at the end of Sens Fortress, etc etc etc etc.

Is this a thing that's possible? To alter the games files and hard change values of things? Maybe it can be done via some kind of cheat engine script that loads with the game?

Just kinda clueless and I really want to do this, I'm a designer/3d artist, so I'm currently redoing the entire user interface and icons etc, modifying some textures etc

I'm also wondering if it's possible to change all the ingame text and even voice overs i.e replace the audio files. Like, fully revoice the and change bosses names etc.

I'm basically trying to turn Dark Souls 1 into an unofficial Demon's Souls 2 6th Archstone "Land of giants" thing basically. I want to stick some Umbasa's and mentions of Boletaria in place of Lordran in the games audio and text as well, which I can do if there's a way to mod that stuff also.

Or is this something I should be asking (((them))) on (((that site)))
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>>187264340
Why is the Hollow Greatsword lower than the other High Tier Greatswords?
Not disputing it, just wondering. The 2h r1's are pretty good at roll catching people rolling around you, and the pokes hit hard.

I guess the average scaling?
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>>187267371
For a second I thought you were that one fag who always, always complains about Wolnir's being too high.

Hollowslayer is shorter and has less AR, IIRC. It's basically just one-upped by the claymore.
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>>187267371
The infusion changes made it comparatively worse compared to the Claymore. It has average Greatsword range and the basic good Claymore R2s outside the unique 2HR1s. But a Sharp/Heavy Claymore will now out damage the Hollowslayer easily, and the Claymore can also be elemental infused with Dark or something else to deal with shield turtles which. It also lacks AR compared to the Black Knight Sword and it outranged by both the Wolf Knight and Onyx Blade. It's still a great weapon and your points are right, it's just comparatively worse now along with a lot of other vanilla non-infuseable weapons since From didn't change any of them with the infusion patches.
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>>187267347
>Is this a thing that's possible? To alter the games files and hard change values of things?
Theoretically, yes. You'd need a bunch of people with a lot of experience with decrypting game files and a lot of hours into reverse-engineering the game.

Realistically? No. Even if you had a full team at your disposal, you would have to basically bruteforce your way into figuring out how things like enemy spawns are stored and how to modify it.

Dark Souls is stored as a compiled, compressed, encrypted set of files, and while some of them can be unpacked for modding (there's a tool for this) a lot of the values and such are not known. It's also unknown if changing things like that would break other things. It's not like a bethesda game where such things are laid out in plain view and are intuitive to mod.

Things like icons, UI, etc. are easier to find than editing the map, enemy models, spawn points, etc.

Probably the most extensive mods involve swapping items and models for items out with other things, such as the item randomizer, or simple UI / font changes.

If you had a few thousand dollars and a bunch of part time modders on payroll to help you, yeah you could do that. But for every bit of your ambitions, half of what you want to do will end up running into massive problems. For every "simple change" you will need to make 3 different complicated changes.

I'm not saying it can't be done, but it's well beyond the resources of a single modder to make that big of a change. It would almost be easier for you to use unreal engine and make your own dark souls fan game from scratch, since that's well-known territory instead of dealing with the unknowns of modding the base game.
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>>187267781
>>187267704
Oh, okay. I've only just picked up DaS3 again after the last DLC.

Does Mugen have the changes made to infusions?
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>>187267897
I mean, take the chart with a grain of salt. Hollowslayer Greatsword is still a Greatsword, which gives it a ton of bonus points right out of the gate.
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>>187267897
Yes, mugen is updated with all the latest AR changes.

There's also SoulsPlanner now which I recommend over Mugen for build making in terms of ease of use and info displayed: http://soulsplanner.com/darksouls3

>>187267987
t.Revan619
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>>187267867
Yeah, I'm thinking you're right. I think I'll leave it to just cleaning up the interface and icons etc, though I am running into some weird issues with UI stuff that seems to even be a problem in stock game (seams in the UI where elements literally are not lined up properly)

Don't suppose there's a fix for that is there? :P
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>>187267987
>>187268031
Alright cool. And thanks for the new website.
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>>187268119
try romhacking or other sites where modders frequent

you might have better luck with hacking sites because most problems like this are unknown territory, so you need to reverse engineer solutions.

If Zullie is still on this thread (they used to do all sorts of neat hacking for DS3 and post webms of it, like making bosses playable characters) they might be able to guide you with some of the enemy spawns. I haven't seen them around for a few weeks though.
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I'm biting the bullet and taking Arstor's Spear and Storyteller Staff for my level 45 Co-Op build. It will probably be awful, but I'm gonna do it anyway.

What is a good weapon to switch over to if I get sick of it. Preferably something that is good to help lower level people.
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>>187268374
Forgot to mention, I can re-spec if I don't like Arstor's.
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>>187268374
raw sellsword twinblades with resin.

Dark Hand.

warden twinblades with rouge

heavy lothric knight GS with gold pine resin (especially if you pair it with a healslut faith build like projected heal and filanore's chime WA).

Executioner's greatsword, which works well with replenishment and healing miracles, better than arstor's spear.
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>>187264340
>most of the bleed weapons are rated so low these days
Did Bleed builds get a huge nerf?

I remember using Carthus Curved Greatsword with Carthus Rouge, hitting once then chaining the Weapon Art into it for like a one shot on some low vig players.
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>>187269047
Yes, Rouge got a nerf, the only way to reliably bleed players now is using blood infused weapons or certain other combos, the former gimps your actual AR heavily. Also any player who wants to just fuck you over at higher levels can just pop a red moss clump since it's almost instant use.
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>>187269047
>Did Bleed builds get a huge nerf?
Yes. They're great in pve but about pointless in pvp.

Blood infusion procs easily, but lowers damage significantly.

Rouge doesn't work on its own unless the weapon is already bleed oriented, and other resins do more damage in the long run.

Bleed is possible if you use hollow infusion bleeding weapons with 35 luck, but that build caps out really low in damage potential, and compared to other twink strategies like vordts it's not worth it.
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Why did DS3 have to be so disappointingly average?
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How so I get the most out of the Black Knight Sword?
Still on my first playthrough of Ds3 (in the ringed city right now) and it has become my favorite sword for now.
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>>187269521
Go quality.
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>>187269521

>27/40, 2H it
>are they AI? Press R1 until they stagger, then move forward and press R1 again for riposte. Ideally against demons.
>Are they human? Press L2. Then R1. Then R1 again. Then roll away. Repeat.
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>>187269047
Bleed values got lowered, Rouge got it's power cut by 60% from 50 to 20.

Bleed is mediocre now. You can be cheesy at low levels and maybe get a bleed after five hits with a rouge'd CCGS.
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Ok, 30 hours of playtime into my first dark souls experience ever. I'm finding it a lot more fun than I thought it would, but some things are very easily cheesed. Also I'm kind of lost at the moment. Having a lot of fun exploring though, so I'll probably keep at it that way until I stumble into somewhere that doesn't rape me immediately.
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>>187269241
>>187269345
>>187269920
Fuck. Well I guess I'm glad I didn't load up my bleeding guy. Probably best to just delete him now.

Maybe I'll make a new character. Any of the DLC weapons nice as co-op weps? Or maybe some nice unique builds to go through maps with?
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>>187269984
>Any of the DLC weapons nice as co-op weps?

DOORS
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>>187270008
I can't deal with how fucking hilariously retarded they look. I will gladly gimp myself out if it means my character looks more fashionable.
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>>187269670
>>187269549
Seems like I've done pretty good then my build mostly looks like that maybe invested a bit heavily with 27.
2h is the definetely the way to go, I carry a shield on my back for them sweet parries though.

For my second playthrough I was thinking about building a melee/spell hybrid, any suggestions?
This is exclusively for pve by the way.
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>>187270125
>For my second playthrough I was thinking about building a melee/spell hybrid, any suggestions?

Heysel Pick and/or Immolation Tinder mage.
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>>187270114
If only they were Orma and Reeve's...
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>>187269984
Just accept your fate and make a RKPGS character so you can spam L1 forever
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>>187269984
DLC put in some of the best faith weapons and spells and generally made faith extremely good. A co-op build is naturally tended toward faith and healing.
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>>187270125
>bit heavily
In endurance
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>>187270125
>>187270182
This. Also Str/Int does get you access to GSOJ and MLGS later on.
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>>187246658
>dark souls 2 bosses
>it's nothing but artorias and gwynn reskins, or reskins of DS1 enemies with bloated stats

that said, it had ALOT of fucking bosses compared to 1 and 3 but theres really only a small handfull that were both unique and good, and not unique but really poorly designed

looking at you sihn, the harmless pussy who flies away for 30 minutes
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>>187266832
Catacombs can be pesky, the beauty of the game is that you can go either way and find useful loot.
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>>187270337
I generally don't like to push towards pure co-op though because I like to drop a bit of PVP in the mix. Not much, but enough.
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Anybody up to co-oping the demon king whatshisface down in smouldering lake?
PS4
Pass dsg
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>>187270560
crucifix of the mad king and lightning arrow are invaluable DLC items for faith and some of the best pvp items in the game
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>>187269969
there isnt a game in the souls franchise where they don't give you really good bows, then expect you not to exploit the fact the enemies literally never have the AI to react to maximum range bow spam unless they are specifically placed ranged/archer enemies

that said, play your own way man. don't feel guilty of inferior because you did something your way and didnt adhere to some minmaxed PVP build. DS1 and 3 arent amazing about really allowing that kind of freedom but if you end up playing DS2 i dont think theres a build that's rediculous or memey enough not to get you through the game long as you're leveling up
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>>187269984
I've honestly always believed that the MLGS is the best Co-Op weapon.

Just carry repair powder on you at all times. Most enemies are predictable as fuck if you don't PVP, so you can pretty much just spam the beams. Even the Weapon Art if you want, since if both the beam and the blade connect, it does FUCK HUGE damage.

Tough enemy? Ranged beams.
Slower enemy with high HP? Double connecting R2 or Weapon Art.
Too much FP cost on Weapon Art? Carry a Executioner in your off-hand.

It's retarded how powerful the MLGS is in PVE. It might not be the most powerful in pure DPS. But it's definitely the most versatile and offers the user the easiest time.
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>>187270671
Too bad I can't get my friend to drop spells. Guess I'll just Raw Astora for fucking ages.

Thanks, anon.
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>>187270724
Not so much worried about builds. I'm kind of boring though. I always assumed dark souls was essentially a hard 3d zelda. I feel like I'm mostly correct so far. As such, I'm going sword and board, enjoying the crap out of it, though I think run 2 I might go pyromancer.

I have spent so much time gathering resources for weapon upgrades. Still not sure if there's even any point to me making a set of Magic/Fire/Lightning longswords to go alongside my Balder sword, but it seems like a fun thing to do.
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>>187270660
Nvm took him down
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What is the best weapon to abuse Executioner FP Regen?

I've been using this on Millwood Greatbow and it's been incredibly fun, if a little ineffective when helping people. Throwing out an almost infinite number of explosives is cool, though they don't do too much damage to warrant the slow ass speed and massive stamina cost.

So I was thinking a good weapon with a good weapon art to spam might be good. Maybe something with a powerful ranged attack?
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>>187270182
Immolation Tinder looks pretty neat.

>>187270393
Great I've been wanting to use the mlgs anyway. I'm thinking going Int/Str with a bit of faith, sounding good?
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>>187270497
I did that yesterday, was utterly destroyed, then told by rest of anons to start anew because going down to catacombs first for good loot isn't a good idea because the way back is near impossible.

Anyways I've been enjoying DS1 alot more than 3. Every weapon feels unique and seems they have a use instead of just spam R1 to win.I like how I only have enough stamina for 2-4 swings depending on weapon even at 20 End and how much stamina roll cost instead of just spamming it endlessly.
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>>187270864
>people still use raw ass
>>187271475
It's nowhere close to impossible, but if you touch the first tomb of the giants bonfire it can be quite annoying going back up
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>>187271170
>was essentially a hard 3d zelda.
Ocarina of Time was a major influence on Demon's/Dark souls gameplay, so was castlevania.

The customization, style of story/lore, and leveling mechanics are all Armored Core though.

>Still not sure if there's even any point to me making a set of Magic/Fire/Lightning longswords to go alongside my Balder sword,
Each boss has different elemental resistances. But since Fire/Lightning has no scaling, it's best if you are using it on bare minimum str/dex, and magic/enchanted/

If you want multiple weapons, it's better to have something heavier or lighter or with longer range, etc. like a spear or halberd, so you can swap between them for the situation, since some enemies are slower or are easier to fight with a longer-reaching weapon. Another weapon type to have would be something with bleed, since that's highly effective against some enemies. Or sometimes use one weapon for DPS against large enemies (like a katana) and another for One-hit-kills (like a greataxe).
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>>187271609
What else am I supposed to use early game? With no loot, and little stats. I haven't touched the DLC's either.
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>>187271681
literally anything can carry you through the pve, and the best early pve weapon (sellsword twinblades) is a starting class weapon
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>>187271609
For a low stat build early on, i.e. faith users. There is nothing wrong with ASS. It does the most damage for pretty much anything pre-irithyl short of the heavier weapons. And might even start dropping in quality around catacombs.

It's terrible after, but early on it is the best weapon to carry faith low stat
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>>187271609
>if you touch the first tomb of the giants bonfire it can be quite annoying going back up
That's uh. . . exactly what I did. So yeah, had to start new save since I died alot of in that Dark Tomb, and way out was through Skeleton on Wheels. 3-4 anons just recommended me to start anew.

Also God, fuck this Blighttown. That Dart Toxic does alot of damage, atleast if I block those darts I take reduced buildup.
And who thought it was a good idea to put a Katana on a platformy place! Even though it has quite nice moveset.
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>>187271957
if you're still naked, the toxic is a lot worse because the darts stagger you

I think if you have at least 1 poise (maybe 5) you won't be though
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>>187271957
>tfw stumble upon ash lake before lord vessel
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>>187272023
I'm using shield to block the darts, they're slow enough to dodge, but I rather not risk it if I'm facing against these naked guys and end up falling down. I do think I have 40 poise though, Wolf Ring alongside Havel is really useful.

I like rings being powerful but only have ability to use 2 of them instead of 4. I actually like alot of things in PvE here compared to DS3.
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Not only do I still need to acquire the 30 Concord Proofs for DMB, I also have to get 30 Pale Tongues so i can get Rosaria's Soul so I can get Bountiful Sunlight for usage in jolly co-op. All on top of having to grind my character SL100+ just to make him viable and somewhat complete.
Man, being a Faith user is suffering.
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>>187272369
Just so you know that's not how you get bountiful sunlight. That's Leonhards quest.
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>>187271632
I usually use a sword, but I also have a winged spear and halberd lying around at the moment. They seem to kill skeletons alright.
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>>187272452
oh
you just made my night easier
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>>187272369
DMB is completely unnecessary for making a character viable, lightning blade works just fine

bountiful sunlight just needs a single tongue. It's overrated too, since bountiful light has nearly the same effect but with much, much faster cast speed, so it's practical to use in actual battle.
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Is SotFS a decent enough game after you get over the movement weirdness?
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>>187272751
Yes, very much so.
It's definitely a more open-ended experience compared to DS3, that's for sure.
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Should I try to make a run with Old Wolf Curved sword and all the attacking buffs meme, or twink out with Onyx Blade
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>>187272625
>bountiful sunlight just needs a single tongue. It's overrated too, since bountiful light has nearly the same effect but with much, much faster cast speed, so it's practical to use in actual battle.
Bountiful Light only affects yourself, Bountiful Sunlight affects your allies as well, which is the point.
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>tfw somebody invaded you and you parry one shot them

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mp28JPs25ek
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>>187272751
Absolutely.
It's just different but it works well.
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Is this weapon worth respeccing for if I'm 90% PVE?
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>>187273561
This might be one of my favorite gifs of all time
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>>187273546
>he doesn't play a healer dedicated to healing just themselves
>he actually plays a healer that wants to help others
lmao
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>>187273616
Anything works in PvE. Just use the Reddit glitch and you don't have to waste a respec or a Tongue.
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>>187273660
>not wanting to go full "GOD BLESS THIS BRAVE WARRIOR. UMBASA!"
Begone, vile plebe.
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>>187246658
DeS has the Dragon God
DS2 has the Royal Rat Vangaurd
DS3 has the Deacons of the Deep
and I didn't play BB, but I'm pretty sure there's at least one mediocre or shitty boss in that game as well (although I'd be happy if it didn't).
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>>187273865
>the Reddit glitch
what??
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>>187273884
>DeS has the Dragon God
Was jsut fine
>DS2 has Royal Rat Vangaurd
optional
>DS3 has the Deacons of the Deep
Cutting down swathes of them is satisfying.

Bloodborne does have Rom the Vacuous Spider, so I'll give you that.
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>>187272138
I've done it before

Didn't even realise I hadn't killed O&S. I went back to max my pyro flame and drifted down there in a sort of brainless state, then realised with horror that I didn't have a warp option.
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Official list of people you feel for in the Souls genre.

1. Sif
2. Artorias
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>>187245804

Always because I wish I was a teenager
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>>187274007
Oceiros.
I dunno. I don't like seeing old men who've gone mad over their dead baby.
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>>187272369
DMB compared to Lightning Blade is like 20-30 more damage to most opponents. Possibly less.

It's basically a joke spell that exists to lure tryhard duelcucks into getting memed on by reds and/or hollowing themselves out in an endless silver knight farm.
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>>187245804
I do it when someone annoys me.
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>>187274007
>Sif
Dumb doggo getting in the way because apparently he doesn't think I can handle the Abyss.

>Artorias
Some dude who got tainted by the Abyss in the past but whatever he's dead now.
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>>187272876
OWCS is cool as fuck. Back it up with Gotthards for super fun invasions.
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Sk weapons never
Ledo armor never
Variety never
Good game never
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>>187274142
Dark and edgy like my soul

>>187274076
Yea I feel for him too actually, bosses like him make the series what it is IMO
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>>187274194
But the SK weapons were decent,
I guess.


Why do people want them back so badly?
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>>187273884
BB has a couple. Celestial Emissary and Micolash stick out in my mind though. At least Micolash had memes.
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How do I perma gravelord myself in DaS1
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>>187274239
Because they look cool, something this game desperately wants to avoid their characters doing
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>>187274235
Yeah.
I also kill Solaire, Quelaag's Sister and Priscilla on all of my playthroughs.
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>>187274007
3. Siegmeyer and Siegland of Catarina
4. Lord's Blade Ciaran
5. Greirat
6. Siedward
7. Yoel of Londor
8. Oscar of Astora
9. Anri of Astora
10. Sirris of the Sunless Realms
11. Ludleth of Courland
12. Dancer of the Boreal Valley
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>>187274007
Reah
Anastacia
Ciaran
Quelaag's Sister
Quelana
Saulden
Lucatiel
Vengarl
Felkin
Manscorpion Tark
Vendrick
Raime
Elana
Alsanna
Gilbert
Gascoigne's kids
Djura
Ludleth
Yorshka
Friede
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>>187245804
In over 700 tongues, I have never pointed down

My preferred emote is to just start sipping estus and walking away, but if I have no estus left I use quiet resolve.

If somebody annoyed me, I equip bloodlust and sudoku over their corpse
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>>187274239
Mainly because the game would benefit greatly from the added variety (I know I would welcome a sword and spear with innate Lightning damage and/or Faith scaling). Plus, you can almost always get the equipment that humanoid enemies wield, that Silver K***hts are the lone exception is pretty damn retarded.
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>>187274742
>not throwing dung pies all over them, clapping and throwing Very Good carvings onto their corpses
It's like you don't want to really shit on your opponent's skills.
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>>187274559
>Siegmeyer, who willingly chose to ignore his dying wife in favor of adventure, and wasn't even that competent at adventuring anyways
>Yoel, who tricks you and corrupts you with the Hollowing curse in order to turn you into Yuria's pawn
>Sirris, who's stupidly incompetent at fighting and easily breaks her vows as a knight
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>>187273925
If you alt+f4 instead of quitting after you respec with Rosaria, you'll keep your new stats without using up a tongue. This also keeps your rebirths as is so you can respec infinitely instead of just 5 times.
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>>187274964
>Siegmeyer, who willingly chose to ignore his dying wife in favor of adventure, and wasn't even that competent at adventuring anyways
Fair enough, but he was still a bro and it's sad that his demise ultimately comes as a result of you taking what little honor he had left by saving him constantly.

>Yoel, who tricks you and corrupts you with the Hollowing curse in order to turn you into Yuria's pawn
Yoel was just trying to do his duty and Yuria a cutie with a booty

>Sirris, who's stupidly incompetent at fighting and easily breaks her vows as a knight
It's still sad seeing her corpse in front of her father's grave.
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>>187255126
Do I get hp back as an invader if the party kills mobs?
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>>187274937
>not using the stalk dung pie into patches squat true combo
You can do better then that.
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>>187275062
Ah, I'm on ps4 and I know that you can Close Application after hitting "Confirm" on the respec screen to have infinite respecs but I don't know if that saves tongues.
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>>187275290
>not becoming Patches and kicking them off a ledge, THEN performing the stalk dung pie + Patches Squat combo maneuver
Step up, nigga.
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>hand over Dreamchaser's Ashes
>get unique dialogue

>hand over Excrement-Covered Ashes, literally a hand covered in shit
>"Gracious. Passing fine ash thou'st given. Let this ash bestow nourishment. I only hope these new wares content thee..."
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>>187275487
She's had to deal with your bullshit for long enough that being given actual shit doesn't faze her.
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>>187275437
I don't know about you, but I really like Patches. He's a dickass thief and I hate him, but I also don't. I couldn't help but have a big, stupid grin on my face whenever Lapp kicked me off the ledge.
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>>187275487
She has a scat fetish
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>>187275624
Same, I just love the guy
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>>187274007
Crestfallen warriors.
Everyone else had it coming
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>>187275487
>wear Lorian set and fight demon prince
>nothing happens
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>You can't use the soul of the demon prince to make pic related
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>>187274007
None. So far everyone has deserved the swording I gave them. Mostly it's been monsters though.
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How would one go about trying to make a more traditional RPG feel when playing through the games? This includes things like using classes and varying restrictions. The main problem would be the run easily turning into a generic run that could also be done co-op as most RPGs have parties instead of just going solo, like Dragon Warrior. I'm trying to think of a way to do this for any of the games, but primarily 3, as that's where the most people are right now.
Also have some cute cats.
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>>187275487
>use storm ruler against the giants in Irithyll and Irithyll dungeon
>nothing special happpens
iirc
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>>187275268
Yes. That's the entire point. You don't need to be the one who gets the kill in order for the effect to proc. Force the host and his buttbuddies to chase you through mobs, and every three or four of them gives you enough HP to tank another R1.
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Why is the Morning Star worse than the Mace?
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>>187246658
DS1 has this
http://www.nexusmods.com/darksouls/mods/1291/?
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>>187274334
the same way you installed that custom hud

google it
download it
use it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EG1ELx2jTis
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Don't mind me.
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why in the fuck does this guy have so many fuckin horses? Holy shit im glad ive anyways disliked em. Fuckin magic tiger twins stunlocked me and killed me with magic.
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>>187277582
>Good Idea
>replace Bed of Chaos with something akin to the Abyss Watchers

>Bad Idea
>limit the aforementioned Abyss Watchers idea to two combatants and have one of them be a boring NPC with extra health and witch clothing and the other one be a shitty meme.
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>>187277930
Smalltime
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>>187278175
you have a pleb taste, congrats
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>>187278242
If I could roll my eyes any more than I already am, my optic nerves would wrap around them and split them in half.
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Is gwyndolin white or asian?
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>>187278727

white
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>>187250710
Just dried finger that shit harder than namebro fingers his little sis

>>187277416
It has innate Bleed effect so it's basically the Mace but it's good for shit that's weak against bleed.
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Oh Jesus fuck.
I accidentally found few invisible walls because of my habit of hitting every chest, and now I'm knee deep inside some tree filled with Mushroom Saitamas , there is a Hydra and a nice Dragon.
Also, is this the same place as the one in Tomb? I remember going into Tomb and when I was near the Orange wall I saw alot of trees and blue lake, it seems like I went down one of those trees and a Dragon is hiding behind another one of those.

Also . . is it feasible going back up or did I fuck myself over again just like I did by entering Spooky Tomb early like last time?
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>>187278727
>tfw white but hairy as a gorilla
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>>187273884
In BB there are Emissary, Failures and ton of shit in chalices, like boar and cocksucker.
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>>187274001
>>DeS has the Dragon God
>Was jsut fine
BoC was much better
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>>187279082

then you are not white
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>>187273884
>>187279087
>>187275236
>>187274262

>hating Memelash
You beastly idiot.

Anyway, Witch Of Hemwick kinda has an interesting gimmick but is a bit crud as a boss. Celestial Emissary is almost literally the Royal Rat Vanguard from Dark Souls.
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Painter loli
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>>187279229
my skin is white
my eyes are light grey
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>>187279317

what colour are your nipples? and body hair?
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>>187279357
pinkish?
light brown on arms/hands/legs
darkish grey/black on the rest
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>>187279256
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>>187279536
>pinkish?

ish? they have to be pink

>light brown on arms/hands/legs
>darkish grey/black on the rest

sorry unless you have blonde body hair you are not white
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>>187279658
>blonde body hair
now you are just memeing
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>>187279709
I got blonde hair on my body, it's considerably darker than my hair though, it looks dark against my skin
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>>187279541
Nice taste anon
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>>187279709

>non white confirmed
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>>187279541
VERY cute!
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>>187279808
>>187279894
im not stating it's impossible to have blonde body hair
im saying it's irrelevant to being white
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>>187279997
HNNNG
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I've fought O&S like 20 times and I still can't beat them. I've gotten to the second stage only 4 times. I had supersmough with literally an inch of health but he charged me out of nowhere. I have no humanity so I can't summon shit and I want to solo it anyway. I'm 2H a claymore because I can't use shields (LB button doesn't work on controller).

2nd stage smough isn't too bad, I can get him pretty low. But 1st stage I die 90% of the time. I try and bait ornstein and smough to attack so I can get 1 or 2 hits but a lot of the time smough just fucks me.

What the fuck do I do?

have 27 vit, 26, end, 30 str so far
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>>187280487
Try to summon solaire.
If you have to do it solo, use the pillars to your advantage and position yourself so you fight one of them.
If possible I say kill Smough first, Super Ornstein only has 1 threating move that is his jump. Rest of them just dodge towards him.
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>>187280626
Nah I don't want to summon. I have played the whole game blind without summons so far. I have killed smough first on 2 occasions but superornstein takes a lot less damage than supersmough so he is more of a risk.
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>>187280773
What weapon are you using? and it's upgrade level.
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>>187280487

are you fast rolling?
if you don't use an shield you really just keep your equip load down
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>>187279997
She gets stabbed, doesn't she?
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>>187280807
2Hing a claymore that is 5+
>>187280954
Yes, I'm not wearing any armor, only sword.

I will post a webm in a few minutes
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>tfw sun comes up
>have to stop playing because of glare
Praising the sun is just a meme, sometimes I wish the damn thing would just burn out.
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>>187281135
She's one of the two NPCs left alive in ariandel
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>>187281209
the sun was an illusion

"the man sees not light, but only endless nights"

it would have affected all of the world, had fromsoft sufficient development resources.
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>>187243848
>Play Demon's Souls for the first time
>no deprived class so pick royalty for soul level 1
>every hollow leaps at me so I can just roll past them and get a backstab or roll back then stab them before they recover or parry them with the buckler I start with which has 90% damage resistance
>the vanguard can't aim, has the world's smallest aoe and is just an easier asylum demon
>start 1-1
>it's just an easier version of undead burgh
>backstep the lunge on the blue eyed knights they can't hit me for shit
>get to the infamous red eyed knight
>he charges at me with his spear which my buckler easily blocks
>hit him with a soul arrow which chews through him
>holy shit these things are amazing, can be fired while moving and my starting ring regenerates my mana
>It's like I'm twinking and I just started
>get to wyvern bridge but easily run through you have so much more time than the DS1 or 3 wyverns
>Boss is Phalanx except he now has a big glowing weak point unlike the painting version
>firebomb him and he dies in seconds
>game crashes because the emulator is a long way from done
Were you guys meming about this game being challenging for all those years or does it get harder later because so far I've never been more overpowered out the gate and everything I'm facing is just an easier version of later game renditions. I mean the big scary red eye knight was nothing compared to the red eye knight outside the church you fight the Dancer.
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>>187281203
>5+
Boy.

>>187281325
Please stop posting lewds of loli. You filthy heretic.
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>Play with Item Randomizer for first time.
>It even changes the things merchant sell.
>This filthy mage is selling his staff for 500,000 souls.
>It's not even a good/unique staff.
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When I get back to it I am going to farm the everliving SHIT out of some sewer slimes. I want +15 before Blight Town, and I think blight town is the my next stop.

Which entrance is the "proper" Blight Town entrance? i have the master key so I have like 3 choices, still haven't found the one in the depths yet.
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>>187281523
>shitty default catalyst
>for 500,000 souls
Damn inflation really hit Lordran hard, huh?
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>>187281604
Well, when souls are money and everything respawns forever...
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>>187281383
>starts with the literal easymode class
>has experience with later entries
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>>187281601

Can you even get to +15 before the lord vessel?

I thought you need the vessel to access lower New Londo
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>>187281860
You can kill Ingward and get the key to the seal early.
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>>187281860
Yes. You can get +15 weapon before even killing Queelag. Requires alot of backtracking though.

>>187281601
Proper entrance to Blighttown is one in Depths. You know the one after merchant.
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>>187281523
Unless the randomiser got updated since I used it a couple months ago, that's not right. When I used it the merchant inventories weren't changed and their prices were normal.
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>>187281984
>>187281860
oops, guess I meant +10, got excited because I got a slab.

Also thanks, guess I have 2 reasons to be in the depths. Never found the merchant on my first run through.
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ive noticed the number of point downs have gone down over time
have the tryhard shitters finally left the game?
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>>187281383
Demon's Souls is probably the easiest game in the franchise but at the same time it's the most punishing.

It's the easiest because you can have million healing grasses, magic is incredibly powerful, you can fastroll under 50% equipment load, the bosses for the most part are gimmicks and once you figure that out they're really easy.

But it's the most punishing at the same time because dying cuts your hp in HALF, The levels go on much longer than most Dark Souls levels, and moreover if you keep dying in levels in body form, you will drive the World Tendency down which makes Black Phantom enemies appear and the game overall harder. If you accidentally aggro an NPC you can't reset their hostility so you can get screwed out of item management completely. There are weapons that can break your gear almost as fast as pc hackers in Dark Souls, and there are spells that can be used to drain your Soul level so if you are really bad at the game, you can get stat drained all the way to SL1 (the remnants of this system probably are what allowed hackers do delevel you in DS1), all your gear broken and in the worst case scenario you aggro the item NPC so you'll be fucked out of inventory management until the next NG.

While I listed quite extreme examples, DeS is still a good example of an easy but PUNISHING game in the Souls series. Also note that DeS was the first game in the Soulsborne franchise so naturally the rest of the games kinda figured that you played DeS / DaS 1 before that game.
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>>187282035
I guess it got updated. Merchant sell different stuff at different prices. Alot of them sell me "Soul of Knight/Proud Knight" at 500, which I think is just their elaborate ruse. They're seelling me those souls for cheap so I end up buying more shit outta their inventory.

>>187282089
Reasons to be in depths.
You get to get Kirk's Armor.
You get Iaito which has more style points than Uchi.
You get Power Within.
You can farm eyes for Gravelord covenant.
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>>187282241
>reasons to be in the depths

Everything past that line is just words to me, but I will stap lots of fools.
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>>187282183
Sounds like it's the hardest if it's your first souls game but if you already know the systems you won't get to experience that difficulty.
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So I finished the original Dark Souls 2. Is it worth going back again and upgrading to Scholar of the First Sin?
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Why are serpents symbols of the undead?
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>>187282646
Some sort of Oroboros Symbolism
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>>187282645
You mean back to back or did you finish the original when it came out?
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>>187282772
Haven't touched Dark 2 since I finished Ivory King on release
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Alot of these inventory changes are fun.
He had infinite amount of Titanite shard I think, well I bought 18. Only 2 Large and 1 Dragonscale, same with souls. Only 1 of them.
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>>187271681
The longsword has more damage raw, the ass has 0 fai scaling and the obvious infusion choice (blessed) is actually far inferior
>>187271957
If you have any poop on you, you can use it to give yourself a milder toxic strain that is far less exasperating
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>>187272876
Power within doesn't stack with carthus beacon and owcs isn't that fast that it makes sense. Unless you meant owcs on back. That with sellsword's is godly. Talking about things like taking less than 3 minutes for ng+3 Gael or Midir
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I just had DS3 gifted to me for my birthday. Anything I should know as an avid DS1+2 player?
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The fallen knight set is pretty edgy isn't it?
Am I an edgelord for wearing it?
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>>187283471
You're not an edgelord. Just the Fallen Scrub. All scrubs wear it. It is literally the "I'm new" set.

Or the kiddy set, as only little kids wear it.
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>>187283471
>>187283541
The true edgy armour is the Artoriass set.
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>>187283471
I also wear that set except pants. Just switch out pants for something else, anything else,e preferably thorns legging.
Also point down / applaud everyone you kill and throw dung pies.
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>>187283464
blind run is best run
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>>187283541
I wear it sometimes and I have 1200 hours in the game and wreck 99% of people in PvP.

I like that it has a reputation as a noob armor set. It makes that loss even more insulting and that point down stings even more.
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>killed all bosses solo without guides or cheesy bullshit
>for some reason I can never kill Pontiff
>on a new character rushing ashes
>get to pontiff room
>looking for summons
>"Mors Westford"
>cool name, lets summon the roleplayer
>Arstor's Spear, Full Ruin Knight except Helm, which is Lapp
>looks good
>we go in boss fight
>he quickly changes his shield to Storyteller's Staff
>poisons pontiff
>about 50 damage ticks
>spend the whole fight just running away while poison spear knight dances around pontiff while poison is up entire fight
>eventually pontiff stops targetting me completely and this guy is just slaughtering the boss
Fucking hell that was cool.

After all this time, I totally didn't know you could poison pontiff. And it was so strong too.
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>>187283464
This is not a souls game, don't treat it like one it's medieval bloodborne.
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>>187283609
Either that, or Farron.
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>>187283754
>on a new character rushing ashes
>get to pontiff room
If you're rushing ashes how did you end up in Irithyll instead of Ariandal the moment you hit the cathedral of the deep?
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What is the absolute best weapon art to spam?

I'm going to help people with Executioner Sword in my off-hand so I can spam weapon arts
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>>187283770
How is it not a Souls game?

How is Bloodborne not just a Lovecraftian Souls game?
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>>187283892
I also wanted to rush Sirris' quest line, the coal and Aldritch Soul.
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>>187282365
>sounds like it's the hardest if it's your first souls game but if you already know the systems you won't get to experience that difficulty

Pretty much. Meanwhile Dark Souls 3 is probably the inverse of that in that it's designed to be kinda casual and unpunishing. The only thing that's really punishing about DS3 is the health penalty when you die but the difficulty of areas in NG and NG+ is completely static, killing NPCs doesn't even matter as much as it did in the other games because the handmaid will be able to sell the gear they were selling if you bring her their ashes (desu I think it was a good chance because it sucked if you accidentally killed a merchant by setting your controller down and literally nobody will intentionally kill merchants unless they're going on NG+), your gear almost literally can't break and there's an INCREDIBLE amount of dev messages spelling a lot of things outright for new players (Archdragon Peak especially felt insulting to my intelligence), not having to commit to covenants at all and the bonfire spam in many levels makes it pretty unpunishing but on the other hand, the challenge level posed by enemies, NPCs and bosses is probably the highest in the series barring Bloodborne and I would even say that if we're not including Chalice Dungeons, base game DS3 bosses are harder than Bloodborne bosses. Of course, that's dependent on your playstyle but yeah, I'd say that. However, challenge wise I think The Old Hunters shits all over both Ashes of Ariandel and TRC.
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>>187283917
Probably one of the spin to win WAs like Dancer's or Winged Knight Halberd.

If you're gonna spam it then you better make sure it's unparriable.
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>>187281523
what hud mod
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>>187284047
Not something like Dragonslayer Swordspear Lightning?
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>>187251864
What's the right build for a virgin.
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>>187284007
What's good about his soul?
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>>187283464
>Anything I should know as an avid DS1+2 player?

There isn't anything you need to know outright honestly except casters are gimped in DS3 except for Pyros. Even if you're going caster you will need a melee weapon at the start because the game has a mana system instead of the limited casts of DS1 and 2.

Armor isn't really that big of a deal and you can't upgrade it but if you don't wear armor in all of your equipment slots, you will suffer a flat defense penalty which is quite significant so while armor doesn't really matter that much, you want to wear SOMETHING in every slot.
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>>187283968
In Souls games the best method is to play cautiously, figure out your enemy's moveset then counter it.
In Bloodborne and DS3 the best method to deal with an enemy is to get the first hit then R1 spam until its dead so you don't have to learn it. You can feel the difference the moment you try to use a shield, where in Souls games the enemy's sword will bounce off your shield in DS3 you'll just lose stamina and they'll keep swinging until your guard is broken. This is supported by the quick rolls with high i-frames and tiny stamina drain to ensure players spend all their time staying mobile like in Bloodborne instead of treating stamina like a resource in Souls games.
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Sullivan was just a frost mage. Why did he use greatswords?
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I really dislike the fact that Gundyr's chestpiece almost always shows your elbows. I only had like 3 gloves which didn't show them and they were all leather or fabric gloves which don't fit. Even When wearing Gundyr's gloves you see your elbows.
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>>187283917
quickstep
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>>187284126
I downloaded entire Dark Souls Overhaul Project so you have to specify which part of HUD.
Still, I guess look at Interface Icons v1.1.
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>>187284306
Just like the boss.
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>>187284221
I want Lifehunt Scythe.
I know it's terrible. But I still want it for the edgy factor.
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>>187284502
But we do not nearly have as big gains as Gundyr. It looks well on him but when you see the big armor on us and our twig like elbows, then it looks silly.
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>>187284228
>In Bloodborne and DS3 the best method to deal with an enemy is to get the first hit and then R1 spam until it's dead so you don't have to learn it

You probably never even played Bloodborne desu.

>where in Souls games the enemy's sword will bounce off your shield in DS3 you'll just lose stamina and they'll keep swinging until your guard is broken

This is straight up untrue unless you're trying to shield a large group of enemies simultaneously or the big guys like Lothric Knights.

>>187284296
>Sullivan was just a frost mage
Retroactive lore planted on him.
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>>187283685
I always play blind, at least the first time. I meant more vague things like>>187283770 >>187284224
>Hey turns out you made a rapier dex+int build! Well you can't respec at any time, and everything in the game has 90% magic and thrust def! Have fun!!
Just want to avoid this kind of scenario, as well as knowing about changes in mechanics like equip load threshholds, varying degrees of usefulness of different infusions (bleed being garbo in DS2 for instance) or that armorless penalty which one couldn't possibly find out withotu running numbers.

Thanks mates.
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>>187285778
Just make sure you don't listen to this guy: >>187284883
Shields are terrible compared to rolling in DS3 and enemies will have massive combos if you let them get the first hit in.
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>>187286051
Even greatshields? Not that I've ever used one, and I try to roll over shieding at least on bosses, but that's becasue I've played 1 and 2 many times so I have most of their attack patterns down. During a first run I admit I'm generally prone to turtling though, guess I'll just ahve to get good.
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>>187286572
Greatshields generally aren't worth their massive level requirements and weight.
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>>187284883
the thing is, while some enemies like random peasants and thralls might bounce off your shield, their recovery time is so small that it literally doesn't matter, they will just often just use some fast hyperarmor attack and hit you regardless

also the enemies that you actually would want to use a shield against probably won't bounce off because muh challenging game for hardcore players.

in the end, the game treats you like a retard ( something something wider audience ), despite the seeming increase in difficulty, "gitgud" now means "press buttons faster lol", and while many people ( especially the new audience ) enjoy that, there are also many who don't. In the end it all comes down to taste, age, education and intelligence.

tldr; the objectively best way to play nu-souls games is to just turn off your brain and go ham smacking baddies on an epic anime journey. das3 is bloodborne without sony polish
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>>187279997
hahaha i fucking killed her
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>>187287395
Got more pictures like this? Is it OK if I save this?
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>>187283464
Pyro now really need fth+int and is legitimate damaging school, not support.
Miracles suck, 2 of 3 good damaging miracles are basically NG+.
Split damage and elemental infusions suck, also you can't buff most elemental weapons.
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guys, if you were doing a demons souls cosplay, what stuff would you use, and more importantly, what would your characters name be? iirc there isnt a name like "chosen undead" for the player character in memeons souls.

>>187275624
iktf
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>>187287681
"Slayer of Demons"
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>>187287789
is that you i just saw getting riposted, the man in havels?
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>>187287605
Just look them up on googles, they're quite easy to find.
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>>187286051
>just make sure you don't listen to this guy
Right. I've only played through all of the Dark Souls games and Bloodborne several times so don't listen to me at all.

>>187286572
The people who shit on shields are kinda right in that they're less useful than in the previous games but they are still really useful. You're not able to hide behind them for large hits but they can be an absolute lifesaver even against the toughest bosses and I definitely would have a shield especially since it can often mean the difference between taking a hit to the face and dying and living. It's not like you can't still roll or anything.

>>187287317
>also the enemies that you actually would want to use a shield against probably won't bounce off because muh challenging game for hardcore players

Did the Black Knights in DS1 bounce off of your attacks? Or the Snakemen in Sen's ?

>>187286572
>Even greatshields
Epicnamebro recently showed in his DS3 playthrough how much greatshields trivialize the game. All the people saying that shields are "bad" in DS3 are probably those who hid behind a high stability shield all the time in Dark Souls 1 and two and couldn't adapt to a playstyle that incentivizes dodging.

>>187284134
Full wizard, all in INT / ATT
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>>187287680
I see, this is really good to know. I literally never use miracles, for caster builds I either go full int sorcerer or str/dex with pyro. I've just run DS2 SOTFS as a full caster so I might switch it up and go for dex+pyro for 3. Or are the int/fth requirements/scaling high enough to make an almost entirely pyro build good?
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>>187287681
Gundyr's armour and name yourself Old King Doran. You could also cosplay Yuria but everyone will just think you're cosplaying Karla.
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>>187287839
No. I'm playing DS1 rn, also that's what DeS pc's title is.
Slayer of Demons
Chosen Undead
Bearer of the Curse
Hunter
Ashen One.
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>>187288180
now that i didnt know
neat desu

>>187288148
but i want to eat grass
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>>187288180
God tier
Feeble Cursed One

High Tier
Slayer of Demons, Ashen One

Medium Tier
Chosen Undead, Bearer of the Curse

Low Tier
Hunter

Shit Tier
Transient Being
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>>187288085
Pure pyro obliterates almost everything midgame and later, after you get Chaos Bed Vestiges or Chaos Fire Orb. It also comboes great with hexes for fire resistant bosses.
Dex pyro is ok too, as the dex now increase casting speed.
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>>187287681
>What stuff would you use
Default Knight gear is pretty much 1:1 the Knight Starting set in Demon's Souls minus the Mail Breaker.

>what stuff would you use
For the knight :
Claymore, Heavy Battle Axe(reference to Crushing Battle in 2-1), Blessed Mace (blessed mace in 5-1), Zweihander, Lucerne (mirdan hammer),Twin Princes Greatsword (reference to Northern Regalia) Tears of Denial (Second Chance) and Wrath of the Gods.

Or do a Temple Knight using the Warrior's Helmet and combine with idk there's good gear that looks like the Mirdan Scale Mail, use a Red Hilter Halberd (looks like the Demon's Souls Temple Knight starting halberd)

Or a Demon's Souls Patches "build" with Black Leather Set and Winged Spear + Archdragon Greatshield+Sun Princess Ring (looks like the Adjudicator's Shield and Regenerator's Ring)

And yes, like >>187287789 said, Slayer of Demons is the DeS equivalent.
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>>187288557
Ascended tier
Young undead
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>>187288646
Sweet, this was really helpful. Much appreciated.
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>>187288012
>Snakemen in Sen's ?
yes actually

but that's not even the point
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>Dorthy's Gnawing completely obliterates the Nameless King
>You can basically One-shot King of the Storm with Sunlight Spear
Holy fucking shit! wtf I love Faith casters now????
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>>187284296
They're only ceremonial. Maybe lore-wise he just uses them as catalysts for sorceries - which he actually does, anyway.
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>>187283917
Lothric's Holy Light
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>tfw you stab a guy and he LITERALLY FUCKING EXPLODES

JESUS FUCK IM SORRY IM SORRY DONT TELL MOM OKAY??
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>>187274007
0. Hodrick
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>>187274007
Queelag's sister. I want to hold her, give her all my humanity juice and tell her it will be alright.
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>>187282646
Source?
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Quick question: If I own Dark Souls II and all of its DLC, do I actually have Scholars of the First Sin or is that considered a separate game I have to buy?

Playing on PC if that matters.
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>>187289827
Dark Souls 1 covetous gold serpent ring
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>>187289868
http://store.steampowered.com/app/236430/DARK_SOULS_II/
http://store.steampowered.com/app/335300/DARK_SOULS_II_Scholar_of_the_First_Sin/
take a guess goyim
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>>187274007
I actually feel bad for everyone, but if I have to, I'd go Kirk route for Fair Lady. I always make a point to give her 80 humanity every single playthrough. It does take alot of fucking time co-oping and invading or even farming rats but Fair Lady is my dedication.
I was really sad to see her dead in 3.
Fucking Sulyvahn and Aldrich.
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>>187289868
It's a separate thing with different enemy placement in non dlc areas and somewhat better lighting. You can upgrade to scholar for a few bucks I think
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>>187289903
Maybe they represent "want" and "the greed of Man". The plot of the second game explores this theme a lot.
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>>187279997
Could we get Scas to draw lewds of piggu knight and his sister?
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>>187290564
Not unless you can at because literally only you care
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>>187289720

wtf is a "sweet spot"? is that that double damage thing some poking weapons have sometimes?
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>>187290753
>can at
Pay*. What the fuck, phone
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I got the "INVALID GAME DATA" message here,but i don't even have a save file in the game. wtf.what's up with that ?
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>>187289720
this bug is hilarious, how come they still didn't patch it?
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>>187290806
yes it is
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fuck enb-sister poster
worst one yet
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>>187290806
Dunno if sweetspot still exists in DS3 aside from on Scythes, but in DS2 on all weapons there was a specific range where weapons did more damage.

Say if you were using Halberd, you'd do less damage if you hit someone who was standing right next to you compared to someone who was little farther away. This was because you were actually hitting them with "Axe" part of your weapon instead of Staff. Same was with Spears I think and swords did much more damage the closer you were to other guy.

The bonus damage thing some poking weapons have is called "Counter" damage. Leo ring boosts it as well. In DS2 almost all weapon had "Counter" damage with thrust weapons having highest if you equipped a Leo Ring.

The "Counter" damage as it is now only exists with Thrust damage. There is also another "Super Counter?" thing that happens if you hit someone during jumping attacks and stuff. Not the best explanation i know, hope some another anon clears this up.
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>>187291194
I would actually prefer if we had both the 4kings poster and the dragonsis degenerate instead of this cuck tbhfam.
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>>187290806
Sweet spot mechanic means that you'll do better damage if you hit the enemy with the actual blade or a specific part of the blade instead of the shaft.

It was in all of the games but it was only expanded to most weapon types in DS2.
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Who the fuck are Yorshka's parents?
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>>187291554
Us
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Is there any point in upgrading Black Onyx if you don't intend to go down an Int and Faith Build? I like the look of it but I'm a strength build
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>>187291276
I don't know what it is, but every dragon I run into is an insufferable dick. Maybe it's just coincidence.
At this point in time, I would welcome Kirk back. I'd rather take his strangely humorous insanity over this guy.
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>>187291638
no
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Why is this allowed
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>>187291724
because it's good
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>drop red sign at pointiff
>fight club
> 2 reds already fighting and 2 waiting turn
>reds both die
> my turn but they're reluctant to fight
>keep waiting
>host summons phantom while another red screws around
> invader shows up and attacks the group
> reds, phantom and host all gank him
> feels bad man
> help the invader out and we eventually kill everyone
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>>187247013
Yeah I dont even remember half the bosses in DS2
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>>187291724
It's good but it has god awful range. Learn to space against it instead of trading.
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>>187251864
What does cum taste like?
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>>187274007
I really hate that Sif is mandatory. Not just because I love dogs (wolves are neat too) but it's just so sad.
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Is magic infusion only for low int characters who want to add some magic damage? Doesn't enchanted always net more damage with high int?
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Finally got a legit copy of ds1. Fuck cooperation is cool. I cant believe how much ive been missing out on.
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>>187243848
>using a giant club for the first time
>it misses everything
>but when it hits the damage is glorious
I have such mixed feelings for this
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reminder to hop over to the non cancerous general
>>187252578
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>>187291554
In Yorshka's dialogue, she states that she knows "very little of anything". Yet, she shows awareness of the existence of, specifically, dragons and crows. This points towards the painted world, which contains crows and Priscilla, who is part dragon. Additionally, Yorshka's church tower is exactly where the Ariamis painting was kept. For this reason, I feel that the most likely candidate for Yorshka's mother is Priscilla.

Yorshka explicitly states that Gwyndolin is her elder brother. She isn't likely to be a daughter of Gwyn, because Gwyndolin is stated in multiple item descriptions to be his lastborn child. Therefore, they must share a mother.

Priscilla, like Gwyndolin, uses illusions; she turns invisible during the boss fight. This is the only connection I can make between the two, but it seals the deal for me.

So in summary, Gwyndolin is the son of Gwyn and Priscilla, explaining his inhuman appearance and illusion magic. Yorshka is the daughter of Priscilla, with an unknown father.

Are Yorshka's legs actually visible? Could she also have snake legs?
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>no cheap attacks with shitty hitboxes
>no instant death pits
>finishing blow feels great
Dragon God did nothing wrong.
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>>187293504
coop takes away from the experience and ruins the tempo of the game.

but if the base game is boring trash like das3, then coop can help making it more fun.
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>>187291554
Gwyn is the father, mother unknown. Probably Velka.

>>187292608
You can ask piggu man's sister that.
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What? I'm a newfag to general someone explain this to me.
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>>187281383
>Picks EASY WIN, the Class
>Have access to insanely retarded early game, due to said Class
>Finds weakness of Phalanx early, sure he's easy, but try him without Fire
>Already have experience in the series
>Complains about easy as hell

I don't know what to tell you man.
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>>187294647
Explain what
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>>187294747
The post above mine. I forgot to reply to it.
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>>187245715
Shocking news, some people never learn.
Proof: DSP.

>>187245804
>Pointing down
I just spam every single remaining Estus I have, just to rub it in their face they couldn't win even when they were Chugging to hell and back
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>>187294797
https://youtu.be/fq3abPnEEGE
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>>187273865
About the glitch. If you have done 99 respecs with the glitch in a single playthrough (highely unlikely but humor me)
Are you unable to use the glitch as you've already gave rosaria 99 tongues?
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>>187293865
Priscilla's feet have been the object of worship for many a wandering knight.
I doubt it's actually illusions, it seems to be a property connected to frost. It's only invisibility and irithyll slaves and friede do it too.
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Is a Item Randomizer and Starting Class Rebalance possible for DS3?

>>187295359
AFAIK Tongue doesn't gets consumed.
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>>187269969
>First time playing
>Being lost
>Just exploring to left and right
I wish I were new to the Souls series again..

>>187281523
Kill that shitter for trying to rip you off.

>>187283020
>Homeward Bone
>500 vs. 50 deal
>Twin Humanities for a whooping 100
>4x Souls of a Brave Warrior for 300 each
>4x Large Souls of a Proud Knight for 750 each
>2x Large Souls of a Nameless Soldier
>Rubbish for 1000
Fucker has a secret, I just know it.
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Anyone knows why dark souls is running so slow even tho I was able to play 2 and 3 before?
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I finally realize DaS3 is not fun. Life is empty now.
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>>187295359
That makes no sense. No, the game doesn't know you actually went through with the rebirth. No tongue is consumed. Also you can have up to 699 of those and always get more.
You can't do the glitch if you don't have at least one respec left and one tongue, if that's what you ask
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>>187295712
go back to 1. It will always be here for you, waiting for another round.
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>>187295786
>tfw feel nothing when playing ds1 again
>Dropped it before reaching gargoyles
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>>187280487
>supersmough
He cant even beat the easymode version of the fight
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>>187280487
If you have to 2 hand then use weapons that scale harder with strength
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>>187295526
>Kill that jew.
I can't . . . . Rickert has hidden himself behind Iron bars.

>>187295915
Try it out with Item Randomizer mode with different starting class. It's fun for me so far. If it still isn't enough there is arcade leveling mod too.
nexusmods/darksouls/mods/1301/
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>>187243848
hey /dsg/ rate my DS1 twink i made for fun in under 10 hours. Just have to get logans cat and i think it's 100% optimized, any invades im getting are already 1 shotting host.
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>>187272751
after about 5 minutes, yes.

It helps to stick around 30-50% equip load.
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>>187245715
This is the problem with invaders.
>I just want challenge bro
>Makes a twink
>Invades some casual who hasn't even played enough to clear the game once expecting them to be some sort of 1337 pvper
>Said noob has only seen pvp in the form of npc invasions and ocasionally being invaded in the middle of a gang of mobs by a minmaxed twink, instantly dying
>Moans about it on /feg/
Just invade at high SL, most people barely pvp on souls games except really commited autists.
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>>187282646
Dragons are symbols of immortality right. And snakes are distant lesser descendants of dragons. Being undead isnt really being immortal but its close because you get to respawn over and over again. Maybe thats why snakes are symbols of undead because they arent immortal like dragons but pretty close?
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>>187276109
Instead of making scaling softcap, make it have accellerating caps. So you gained virtually little/no damage bonus from 0 to 20 str, but gained a bit more from 20 to 40, and then a LOT from 40 to 60, forcing players to specialize into a single class.

Also make the stats affect more things. Like strength is necessary to level to wear heavy armor, intelligence drops your faith bonus and faith drops your intelligence bonus, etc.

So basically DS2's framework but with the complete opposite mindset for balance.
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A DS1 Related question /dsg/. Since I'm going through DS1 with item Randomizer alot of drops have changed in game as well and I've like a billion "Chain Armor" "Chain Helm" in my inventory and I cba to carry them all with me at all times so I decided to drop them.

Can I make those vagrant spawn for other people by dropping these around randomly in random areas of game?
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>>187279082
that's what hormones, bleach, waxing, and nair are for.
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>>187291207

I call it a "sweet spot" but for certain weapons like the poking halberds, there's a certain area of the hitbox where you can land a hit that is actually a double hit. Personally my theory is that there is a separate hitbox for the hilt and the point of the weapon and there's a small area where these two hitboxes overlap, and if you land a hit right in that spot they'll get hit twice in one hit.

Jund mentioned it in his greatlance video, for example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ea_4Y41VWdI&t=305
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>>187281203
You should have a +10 or +14 weapon by now (or equivalent, like a lightning weapon, which starts at +10), or a +5 twinkling titanite weapon. That's why the enemies outside the O&S boss room drop Titanite Chunks and why the blacksmith sells unlimited Twinkling Titanite, you're at the point in the game where you should be at max upgrade for at least one weapon.

Use the lightning spear from Sen's Fortress if you don't have the embers unlocked yet. You can also just farm souls and buy twinkling titanite from the anor londo blacksmith, and use that on any twinkling titanite weapons you have to upgrade them to max. +5 is extremely weak
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Any tips for playing DaS1 (PC version obviously) with a Dualshock 4 controller? I can't seem to get it to work.
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>>187281383
Demon Souls was hard because
>no one had experience with prior games
>nothing was explained
>the game got actively harder if you were shit at it

If you stick to Royalty, white world tendency and have experience with prior souls games, it's the easiest game in the franchise. Everyone knows that DeS can be completely cheesed with magic, and magic even gets stronger when you're in soul form.

Play through it again on black world tendency with a worse starting class and it's significantly harder.
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>>187281383
you can't judge DeS until you've played 3-2 and 5-2
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>>187297340
DS1 Doesn't natively supports DualShock 4, you need InputMapper or DS4Windows.
Even after you do get those programs you need to make sure the controller is working in "Exclusive" mode. If you're on NVidia card go to GeForce Experience and disable "In-Game Overlay" then connect the controller and start the program. Then Enable the In-game overlay.
For some reason Share interferes with Exclusive mode for controller.
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>>187295753
If the tongue isnt consumed then you've answered my question. I know that you can have 699 tongues but you cant offer more than 99 tongues to rosaria. Anyway thanks for the answer

>>187295482
Great
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>>187297470
>5-2
Vietname_Flashbacks.webm
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>>187296281
That's barely a twink, just a glass cannon. And a bit silly at that, you'll be doing way more damage than anyone could tank
>>187297575
Oh, I get your confusion. Offering tongues and respecing are 2 completely different things
Also, I'm pretty sure you can't offer more than 99 at one time, because you can only hold 99 on your person. In total you can offer ridiculous amounts. Just open the dmb roster and check the first dudes
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any working links for dark souls?
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>>187281860
>>187281601
>>187281984
Before Anor Londo you can get:
>+15 normal (must kill capra)
>+5 enchanted (no boss needed)
>+5 chaos (need to kill quelaag)
>+5 fire (need to kill quelaag)
>+5 divine (need to kill pinwheel)
>+5 twinkling (great hollow lizards)
>+5 dragon (farm drakes + ash lake)

The only upgrades you can't max out before Anor Londo are Crystal, Magic, Occult, Lightning, and Demon upgrades. The enchanted upgrade is probably the easiest to do, especially since it comes along with the oolacile ivory catalyst in the farming area.
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I need some advice.

I've been doing co-op for the last two days on my Knight Banner build. Got Executioner in my off-hand for the almost permanent FP when doing Co-Op. Wearing full Sentinel, and two-handing the Lothric Holy Banner.
My first question is, should I go Lightning Infusion (split damage) for 327 AR with the banner, or Sharp for the 279 AR (pure phys).
Secondly, would you like a guy who always follows you spamming the two minute party buffs for 15% damage, though only has a 279-327 AR Spear.
(for reference, it's a +6, and again, I'm only 51)
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>>187282365
>>187282904
If you already beat the DLC, no. Especially since it's not on sale. SOTFS is an upgrade but doesn't add much other than some mini bosses, NG+ content, and a secret boss.

If you want to play online, it's necessary. But the game isn't very active anymore anyway.

SOTFS is worth it if you haven't played the DLC, because it's usually cheaper than buying all 3 DLC packs and comes

But since you've played the DLC, there's no reason to spend $40 on what is essentially just a slight shuffling around of enemies and addition of new NPC invaders/summons, with better graphics.

Remember that SOTFS isn't an "upgrade" It's a port of DS2 to PS4/XB1/DX11 just like Prepare to Die was a port from PS3/360 to PC.
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>>187297917
>There is a cap of 99 Pale Tongue you can offer. After you reach this limit, you can't offer more, but you can still use Pale Tongue to rebirth.

What I just read on the wiki so we're both right
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>>187297917
well the whole idea was to keep SL as low as possible since i just invade people progressing, im getting invades in the depths, sewers, anor londo, pretty much everywhere except for undead burg and blighttown. but yea this is a chameleon 1 shot account
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>>187283020
to be honest those changes make me not want to use the randomizer, because selling powerful shit for only a few souls ruins my sense of immersion. I'd want things like key items, embers, and weapons to be moved around but still have them make some sense. Selling gwyn's soul for 1000 souls is just annoying to me, and ruins the point of trying to change the way the game plays.
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In DS 2 SotfS what are the bosses that the players usually summon help for?
I made a new character to do a bunch of pvp and co op and I want to help some dudes
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>>187298473
oh to add onto this, i think making the account was way more fun than actually invading, i just invade casually while playing other games since it takes so long :(
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>>187283968
In DeS/DS1/DS2, if you rush at an enemy using your default equipment and spam R1 or roll, you will get fucked and die.

In DS3, doing that is the EASIEST way to play the game and taking it slow and cautious is going to get you killed constantly. There's little/no reason to use anything beyond your starting equipment except for adding flavor.
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>>187298120
I need help.
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>>187283917
perseverence

lothric's holy sword

Gael's GS

splitleaf GS

curved wolf GS

farron greatsword

paired ultra GS
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>>187298104
Where the fuck can you get blue or red slabs? I guess technically you can farm your ass off to get an ascended flame, but that would far from make sense
Still, with +4 it's still impressive
>>187298602
>:(
You had fun making it, did you not?
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>>187298582
Early on? Probably Ruin Sentinels.
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>>187298479
You can remove the "Soul" items from randomized pool. You can have weapon/key items randomized though do note, you can potentially get good weapon early as drop, or buy them there is a risk for it.

I got a Demon Machete by the time I hit Darkroot forest both times, on Very unfair.
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>>187298829
Did it work?
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>>187293923
dragon god was fine. He had a stealth mechanic and the cutscene attacks made sense, since you were actually attacking with weapons, and the level was laid out so that you wouldn't miss them if you just tried to get close enough to him to hit.

Bed of Chaos's main problem was that it was very vague about what you had to do, in a game that trained you not to spam R1 on things it expects you to spam R1 on a random glowing orb that you can barely see, then you had to deliberately drop into a pit to get to the interior? It's extremely awful player pathing.
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>play BB
>first Souls game
>enjoy the fuck out of it
>buy Dark Souls 3
>enjoy it, but find it much tougher than BB
>need help with some of the bosses
>get to Nameless King
>want to solo him
>lolnope
>drop game and go back to BB and Nioh

Convince me to give it another shot bros. Id really like to see it through to the end.
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Started with DS3 (which I have over a thousand hours in), went back and played through DS1, played through probably a bit more than half of DS2: SotFS and quit.

Is it bad that I'm actually considering going back and playing through DS1 again though? I really really fucking hate DS2, was surfing youtube and actually found a video that explained it a lot better then I ever could I believe: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UScsme8didI Doesn't cover everything obviously but it hits a lot of the important points imo of why I fucking hated DS2. Game just felt like such a chore, with so many things done so lazily.
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>>187245715
60 hours can be pretty new still, DS2 takes about 200+ hours to finish your first time if you take it slow.

They probably tried playing back on release and got 20-30 hours in, gave up, and then just picked it back up and are still completely inexperienced.
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>Just going through DS1
>End up at Darkroot Garden.
>See 2 summon signs for first time in this playthrough
>Try to summon
>Both fail.
>Restart game.
>can see those people still in area.
>Cannot see signs anymore.
I wish I could've summoned either of them. I know they are still here due to DSCM
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>>187299278
It's up to you mate. I personally like DkS2 a lot more than the others because it was my first souls game and I kinda enjoy the slow pace of it. It's not as bad as some ppl say desu.
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>>187299365
That was the point of my earlier post, took me like 80 hours to beat the first time (before DLCs) and I was already decently experienced with DS1. Just recently replayed it and took me like 100h including DLCs. Someone with 60h in is a complete newbie unless they've played previous games.
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>>187298120
If you're going for a full on co-op build you should make it faith based, at least 60 Faith. I have my banner infused with blessed for the HP regen since its not what i do damage with. Pic related, my faith build. I'll show you the spells as well
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>>187299259

I beat Nameless King by myself on the first try with just a 2 handed lothric knight long spear and rolling, and I bought the game on release.

Think you just need to git gud, and I don't even mean that sarcastically. Even if it's harder for you because you don't have the reaction skills I have, the general idea of dark souls bosses has always been that you fight them over and over again until you memorize their moveset (if necessary) and can avoid their attacks and know what's coming.

Also play unlocked against the first half of the fight with the dragon. I'll tell you this gross simplification though: at the end of the day every dark souls boss is the same. You dodge their attack or combo, then you hit them once or twice depending on how fast your weapon is. You wait for their next attack/combo, dodge it, then attack once or twice. Wash rinse repeat until dead. You die when you get greedy and try to swing 3 times or 4, forgetting that the #1 rule in dark souls PvE is that it's more important than to not get hit than it is to hit. The most important thing is to avoid getting hit at the end of the day.
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Okay guys, since DaS3 was dogshit and DaS2 takes too long before you can actually enjoy it.
I'll give Randomizer a go, but I'm skeptical about something.

Could I in theory end up without a way to get into the DLC and/or end up never getting the Lordvessel or any of the Lord Souls, making it impossible to end the game?
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>>187299278
Dark Souls 3 is arguably the most boring and worst in the series, so it's definitely fine to

>it's matthewmemetosis again

Fuck right off with that shit. His video was made to prey on the fact that most people expected dark souls 2 to look like dark souls 1, and he gets most of the facts about it's development completely fucking wrong. It's an awful video and you should try to think about it in your own terms instead of copying what he says.

His argument basically says "if I didn't understand it immediately, then it was lazy design", and blames the developers for anything that wasn't immediately intuitive, while ignoring all the effort that went into other stuff. This also came out before DS3, when most people realized that DS1 was a fluke and none of their other games were as intuitive.

DS2 is the best game in the series if you like actual game mechanics, optimization, resource management, and having control over your own gameplay and experience. DS3 is the worst for that, and DS1 is somewhere in the middle but with the most creativity in the world design and lore to make up for it.

It's fine to dislike DS2 or hate the way the game is designed, but it's not fine to call it lazy when you don't understand half of the game mechanics, or blame the developers for that lack of understanding.
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Namebrah going live with DS1 right now!
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>>187299937
get the version that doesnt randomize key items then retard
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>>187299937
they have different levels of randomization and in the latest release he has a checker to make sure that key items never end up in places where you can't access them.
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>>187300070
Ohshit, neat.

>>187300024
Sorry, didn't know there was a version that did that.
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>>187299950
ds2 sucks you fag
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>>187300269
t. literal braindead retard
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>everywhere I look has people saying multiple playthroughs without seeing a badur side sword
>I've seen 2 in the last 2 hours
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>>187300130
Look at >>187298914
It as alot of options. Anyways as someone who's doing that too currently I recommend just going with Very Unfair. Fair and Unfair, gave me alot of good items early on enough to make the run pointless.
Also if you can though, give an idea to build you're trying to do and stick to it. Basically go Dex and stick with it, don't waver even if you get an amazing/convenient STR weapon early or you get good pyro spells early so you're now casually raising att and pyro level.
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>>187300269
its no use arguing with those people, its probably stockholm syndrome or something
i mean come on guys, no red eye orb, half the bosses being a variation of a dude in armor and soul memory wasnt THAT bad :^)
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>>187300573
out of arguments eh?
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>>187298813
i did have fun making it, but now there's not really much more to do other than kill seath, which is laughable. sigh i miss when the soul series was really a new experience, shit is too easy even with no vit, i have similar accounts on ds2 and ds3 but nothing beats 1 for me
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>>187300779
not the same dude as before
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>>187298642
I haven't played the first two but in DaS2 holding a shield and just walking to the side until you're in backstab position worked really well, that's not really hard either. Against non humanoid enemies roll r1 spam worked, too. If there are multiple enemies then just lure them one after another with projectiles, in any of the games.
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>>187300426
>Senile Gwynevere
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>>187301115
It's best one. You can find Lord Vessel anywhere. Well anywhere that you can go. It can be in Firelink shrine if you're lucky.
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>>187301348
My body is ready for the greatest adventure of my life.
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What's the most active SL in DaS 3 for online (both coop and pvp)? What SL is the most fun for (You)?
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>>187301114
That only works against solo enemies, of which there are basically none outside of the tutorial area, except for large enemies that can't be backstabbed anyway.

The games all share those same gimmicks, but in DS3 they're far and away the best way to play the game and trying to be creative or use a wide variety of tactics doesn't make the game any easier or more rewarding.

DS3 does a lot of other things good (mostly visual style, individual level design, and combat) but the actual way the game progresses you and your character is fucking awful. It feels like a theme park ride, not a souls game, where you're just on rails and every time you try to do something clever you end up just making the game harder, not easier.
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>smack a mimic with Lloyds
>host just stares at it like it's the 8th wonder of the world
>starts attacking it
>gets eaten
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>>187301640
SL25+2 is most active, but least fun because it's all gank squads and people farming covenant items.

SL120 is the most fun, but only because the ratio of gank squads to fight clubs is lower.
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>>187301736
>Proceeds to spam clappydi clap emote
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>>187301736
my favorite thing to do as a sunbro is to take first time hosts through earthen peak and reveal all the little traps and hidden things in the area and just watch them freak out when they realize the map is twice as big as they thought it was
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small brain: watching enb
big brain: watching letofski
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>>187300573

don't forget it also looks like absolute dogshit too, and completely different from what they told/showed us it would look like before release and a lot of things don't make sense geographically at all :^)

i mean aside from maybe the coastline of majula the game looks like a high schooler's summer project, ffs. nothing like DS1/DS3/BB at all.
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>>187301640
145 is both active and fun because you can actually have a complete character
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>>187301915
My favorite thing as Sunbro in DS1 was Sen's Fortress. I liked taking them where Gold Serpent ring was, then acted like there was more treasure further ahead and sprinted forward and fell down.
Alot of hosts followed me down while others simply got crushed by ball.

Best part was it was very hard to recover the souls since alot of times the soul patch left was at end of ledge or at very end of tunnel.
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>>187302085
No one gives a shit about your opinion. Some people like it, some people don't, you don't' need to go out of your way to announce how much you personally dislike ds2 like its some kind of law, you fucking autist.
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>>187302339
wow there ds2babby no reason to be upsetti spaghetti :^)
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>>187301681
>trying to be creative or use a wide variety of tactics doesn't make the game any easier or more rewarding.
There is no tactics in any souls. You just walk narrow corridor/bridge, smashing mobs. Though I miss DaS2 approach to bosses. Burning windmill, Fume's idols, ballistas at Pursuer, etc.
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Magic or enchanted Dragonrider Twinblade with 80 int and minimum dex? I went with magic a while ago because enchanted scaling seemed worse for this particular weapon but I'm kind of a noob.
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>>187301640

I've just been doing SL60 +6 for ages now, especially aldrich faithful post-pontiff. Having backup invaders solves a lot of the problems with invading other areas (like passive hosts that just run away forever, summoner class hosts, etc) and also allows you to use a lot of different builds besides just the OP one shot shit. One of the things I always hated about invading non-invasion-covenant areas sometimes is that you could get full gank squads that flat-out wouldn't leave the starting area for minutes on end, so you could never use the mobs as a balancing force since they could just sit there and not progress, or even worse they could just summon their friends to play the level and wipe out the mobs one by one and if they ever died, they would just resummon them and run/roll away from you forever, especially if they light rolled. You can simply never stop that shit by yourself, but you get at least 1 buddy and they suddenly can't just run away from you forever (or at least, it's much more difficult to do so). It's also the one place aside from crux woods where you get at least some kind of no friendly fire if you're an aldrich, at least with other aldrich.

There are also a ton of areas to invade and you can make reasonably complete builds at SL60, while twinking still makes you able to reasonably take on ganks by yourself. You're not too OP like at SL35 +4 and you're not gonna get completely fucked like at meta level. Also unfortunately at meta level (SL120-140) you get a ton of hackers on PC, that's mostly where they congregate for some reason, not other SL's just fucking meta level. Dealing with 15 +10 estus is a fucking bitch and a half, though.
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Damn, the Dark Chasm of Old is spooky. I like the idea of the Pilgrims of Dark, what with them basically being dungeon divers. Kinda weird how a covenant dedicated to darkness wants you to light sconces though.

Also fuck those giant bulb-headed pyromancers. They can go suck a dick made of barbed wire.
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>>187301681
I put like 15x as many hours into DS3 for the PvP compared to the PvE. Like 100 PvE vs. 1500 PvP. I really wish other games picked up the invasion mechanic and balanced it more, did their own spin on things while still having all the customization DS3 has.

It's unique and that's why I continue to play invasions to this day but I wish it wasn't so unique and other companies made games with invasions.
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>>187302339

damn dude if i knew you were going to be this butthurt i would've used more lube :^)
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>>187302085
>also looks like absolute dogshit too
Runs better though, so it looks great for the graphics requirements

> completely different from what they told/showed us
Nope. They told/showed you exactly what was delivered. The only videos that were different were a year older, not their fault you based your purchase decision on old demo videos instead of the actual game footage they showed

>and a lot of things don't make sense geographically at all
DS1 and DS3 do this too, just not as obviously.


There's legitimate complaints against DS2 but those aren't it. You're nitpicking.

Probably the biggest legitimate complaint against DS2 is that you don't care about customization at all and you're into souls for the visuals instead. In which case it's not a bad game, it's just a game that wasn't made for you.
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>>187302627
tactics is the wrong word, I meant overall strategy, like burning ascetics to get better loot, or using different damage types, or stacking buffs, resource management of consumables, etc.

DS1 was an unbalanced piece of shit for progression, but with the master key you could at least pick your own path to max upgrade and higher levels without being forced into a strict boss order like DS3.

DS3's ONLY exception to that is the dancer skip, which is much harder and much less rewarding than the master key, fragrant branches, or bonfire ascetics were.
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>>187303152

The biggest legitimate complain about DS2 is that it's quantity over quality. It's been repeated time and time again. DS2 is just a big pile of unpolished unfinished lazily done shit, but holy fuck there's a lot of it. Most of us would rather have less stuff that was actually made well instead of half-assed. Like the "half the bosses are just variations on a big dude in armor with a sword" argument is just a shorthand for "most of the fights are pretty much the same and unmemorable, but there are a lot of them so they think that's okay"

Like if I just copy pasted the same paragraph a hundred times and maybe changed a few words in it here and there and called that a book and you were like "dude there are so many pages though!" That's DS2. And it's a chore to read the same paragraph with slightly different wording for hundreds of pages imo.
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>>187303152
Don't bother arguing, he's just shitposting and isn't looking for a discussion, just (You)'s
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>>187284134
pic related

>>187302097
I thought this is virgin SL
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>>187303606
>big pile of unpolished unfinished lazily done shit
Unpolished but not lazy. There's way more easter eggs, creative little gimmicks, attention to balance and the overall progression/framework in DS2 than ANY of the souls games. It's just that those are the sort of things that most first time players don't realize until they've gone through the game a few times, so they say things are "lazy" when really they're very well done, just not holding your hand with how to use them.

That's like saying all sitcoms are bad because they repeat the same problems with slight variations across 500 episodes. Repetition isn't bad if you have a creative framework around it. Because of how many bosses are completely fucking optional and how many opportunities you have to change your equipment, DS2 basically has a framework that takes the experience of re-playing with different classes/stats in DS1 and lets you do that -between every boss encounter-.

I'm going to repeat that, for emphasis.

DS2 has a framework that takes the experience of re-playing with different classes/stats ("change your stats and it makes it feel like a whole different game!") and lets you do that BETWEEN EVERY BOSS ENCOUNTER. It's not the developer's fault if you don't ever utilize that. They gave you all the tools and put player choice at the forefront, to a point where you aren't even forced to use them.

That's not lazy design, that's extremely good progression. It only appears lazy because players don't actually utilize all those things. They want to stick with one strategy and just fight everything head on like idiots.

It's unintuitive, yes, but not lazy.
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>>187303606
>>187304287
tl;dr:

Big Guy in Armor A doesn't feel the same as Big Guy in Armor B if you have completely advanced your character and available strategies before you fight them. It's not the developer's fault that you never did that, so don't call them lazy because you didn't.
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Reminder that this is the kind of guy that complains that invasions are unfair. They don't know a THING about simple mixups, let alone how to handle fighting multiple people. I hope you're not one of those, /dsg/.
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>>187264340
Gotthards need moved to top tier imo. Brilliant weapon even when 1h with a shield just for the range and WA.
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>>187304882
God, its so disgusting how unpunishable healing is in ds3.
Makes me wish I was playing DS2 everytime I see it.
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>>187305052
The range is great but the lack of a Stance WA is kind of a downer for Gotthard's, it's WA has no hyperarmor and can only be comboed into from an L1 anyway. It is an on the edge weapon for either side imo.
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>>187304882
I don't get it. Why would this guy complain about ganksquads when he got a 1v1? I complain about them because Das3 invasions are basically
>invader hugs mobs
>host hugs his 2 (or more) summons
>if there are more than 1 invader the invaders will friendly fire while getting beaten by the party
>greatbows
I enjoy duels more but sadly you don't get covenant rewards for duels.
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>>187304882
dark weapon buff on purple phantoms looks pretty
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>>187305519
>Why would this guy complain
because he can't even win a 1v1, let alone a gank
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>>187305701
Says the host with 30% more health
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The amount of "Summoning Failed" in DS1 is truly disheartening.
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>>187305701
If someone can't win a 1v1 then he'd practice in duels and not spread lies on the internet.
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>>187302079
Why not watch both?
I tried watching Letofski once but he was doing a vodcast and I can't stand people who replay old stream vods as "streams".

You guys are doing yourselves a disservice if you're not watching ENB play DS1. The comfiest shit in existence save for maybe cuddling with his sister but only marcus is allowed to do that.
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>>187287858
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>>187305847
To clarify it wouldn't help this guy cause he's terrible but invasions will never be fair when the host has the ember advantage plus twice the estus.
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>>187304882
>the absolute state of DaS3 pvp
>stand still while mashing r1 and let HA do the work for you
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>>187305891
ironically it got worse when they dropped gfwl
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>>187306014
Can you fucking stop

Get some help, you demented fuck
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>>187305891
>someone else using shiva's shield
my nigger, round shields a best
this thing has everything going for it, 100% physblock, pretty decent stability, and it deflects like a greatshield
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>Farming Shackles

Holy shit lads, i'm losing my mind here. I think i'm going to get PS+ because i can't take it anymore. I just want to be warm. Anyone know any other farming location other than Catacombs of Carthus?
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>>187306141
It's sad. It's hard to connect to randoms atleast with friend you sometime just wait it out 20-30 minutes to connect, with randoms if it fails it's dead.

>>187306170
Honestly, only reason I'm using this is because I got it early due to item randomization. I do have Balder,Sunlight shield now, but fuck it. Shiva shield is pretty dope, has decent stability and looks good.
Btw explain deflects like GS. I do know what deflection is but what are things that GS can deflect what normal shields can't?
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>>187306275
Literally anywhere if you man the fuck up and invade as a mad phantom like you're supposed to
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>kill Aldrich
>want to pick up sun princess ring
>get teleported to dancer
>kill Yhorm
>want to pick up squidward set
>get teleported to dancer

This is the worst part of the game for me
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>>187306275
>Holy shit lads, i'm losing my mind here
Them congrats! You've become the perfect mound-maker!
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>>187305847
Don't forget my filianore regen and two blessed weapons equipped. :^)
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>>187306145
ENB's DS1 stuff is insanely comfy man.
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>>187306418
this is because shitters whined too much about not knowing where to go after they killed the four great ones in DS2 because they forgot the shrine of winter existed
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>>187306579
I literally don't care about whatever the fuck this nebulous concept of a 'comfy' video game stream is, I just want you to understand that this is not a healthy way to live your life and that you need to re-evaluate your priorities and seek professional help.

The fact that it is fucking annoying seeing you post this shit day after day is just icing on the cake
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>>187306394
It's simple, really. Small shields have little deflection, medium shields have medium deflection, and greatshields have high deflection.
Depending on the attack, you need a various amount of deflection, a broken sword hollow will deflect even off of a small shield, but a black knight's slash requires heavy deflection.
Shiva's shield is medium, but it can deflect like a greatshield, so if you block a BK's slash or a Mimic's kick with it, they'll be pushed back and slightly staggered like if you blocked with a greatshield
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>>187306275
This pit is for hollows, and the occasional madman fond of piling up victims.

You've... Better things to do, I'd hope?
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>>187306824
>o if you block a BK's slash or a Mimic's kick with it
Holy shit what?! Strong Deflects push back even BK Knights? Does that even mean SK will be pushed back? After 1000+ hours I feel dumb for not knowing this.
Then again, I spent 100 of them learning to parry them Knights so it's not useful for me now, but still good to know.
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>>187298642
In DS3, if you turtle behind a shield a backstab fish, you will get guard broken and die.

In DeS/DS1/DS2, doing that is the EASIEST way to play the game...

It works both ways m8.
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>>187306579
>he gets smaller over the years
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what are the lore implicashuns here
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>>187307023
>When you invade somebody who has clearly just come from DaS1 because he keeps trying to jankstab you and getting fucked for it, or just keeps his shield up and circlestrafes until he gets guardbroken

Always fun
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>its a Host makes you sit through the cutscenes episode
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>>187306985
I don't think it works with every attack, you probably can't deflect the BK UGS or the Greataxe, or at least not all of their moves, but it does work against the greatsword ones, like in the undead asylum. Seeing mimics fuck off after you block their kick is hilarious too.
http://darksouls.wikidot.com/deflection has every attack you can deflect and how much you need
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>>187307093
DO NOT BULLY PRISCILLA

DELETE THIS
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>>187303754
Honestly, I have a lot more respect for DEX fags than STR fags in DS3.

STR requires almost zero skill to play correctly. You just mash R1 and poise through everything. Maybe switch up the timings of your attacks here and there and cleave off 70% of your opponent's health in one combo.
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>>187304882

Can we all just stop for a second and realize that ultras are shit and the problem in this webm was that the purple was a fucking retard that just kept eating hits to the face for free? Guy has no concept of spacing or timing at all, has nothing to do with the fairness of invasions. On the other hand I do appreciate your ability to delay attacks, OP.

But in all fairness that purple was just a scrub, says nothing about DS3 invasions. A better critique would be 2 invaders chasing you as you just fast rolled away from them forever occasionally turn-and-burning with two straight sword R1's while the "Summoning another phantom" phrase blinked on screen and you just kept running/fast rolling away waiting for your phantom to spawn, then two darkmoons all of a sudden showed up.
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>>187307023
backstabs have nothing to do with the game's progression though, that's combat, and most people agree that DS3's combat is really good.
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>Dark Souls 2 is slo-
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>>187307461
n-nani?!
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>>187307461
>Pssht, nothin personnel, young undead
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>>187307392
So what exactly are people complaining about if not DS3's combat?
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>>187307185

It's at that point where I switch from my fun setup to full-blown meta cancer shit. I just think, "Oh, you are fucking dead. DEAD. YOU ARE FUCKING DEAD YOU MOTHERFUCKER PREPARE YOUR ASS YOU PIECE OF SHIT, DEEEAAAAAADDDD" as I run to the exact spot I now know they're at (^:
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>>187307212
Okay this Heavy Deflection thing is seriously fun. I just wish I could also parry them and game gave it same effect. I guess it was made possible in DS2 with parrying Dragonriders and all.

>>187307297
No. >>187307391
All Ultra are terrible weapons and you should feel bad if you die to them in PvP / you just got plain outskilled if you ever got hit by one. You can at most swing them 3-5 times unlike Dex.

>>187307093
Simple. The world is actually ending way faster, we're reaching DS3 levels of fire fading in DS1.
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>>187306787
This general used to like ENB... He brought us a lot of good times with Dark Souls... And he will bring you more good times if you let him into your heart.

>>187307075
He's shrinking each year but when his sister gives him a kissu he grows back to full size.

>>187307093
>drake sword from Priscilla
Wut? IS that a photoshop ?
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>>187307461
uh, you have i-frames for a reason sweetie...
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>>187307724
>le ultras are bad meme
You try invading with a katana. Let me know how that goes.

Besides, any smart ultra user is going to carry a secondary weapon for when they face "that guy".
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>>187308046
>What is Randomizer Mod
Fucking ENB fanboy is truly a giant retard.
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>>187307185
>Fighting Darkmoon
>Host triggers the Patches cutscene in the Cathedral of the Deep
>Cutscene ends, Darkmoon has vanished, I think I'm being tricked
>'Blade of the Darkmoon killed'
>It teleports friendly phantoms to the bridge as it lowers
>He fell off
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>>187308046
Fuck off you fucking retard, I don't give a shit about your whiny manchild idol and you need to stop posting about him every five minutes

Do you even fucking sleep? You're worse than 4kings poster.
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>>187307709
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>>187308108
All he knows is ENB.
His only purpose is to post ENB.
From the day that he was born, his destiny was laid out before him.
"Praise ENB and only ENB."
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>>187307724

Fun game to play if you are ever in a 1v1 with a 2 handed ultra user: don't even attack them. Literally just lock on and dodge every attack. See how long you can go without taking any damage.

It's pretty hilarious to see the hope slowly drain from their eyes desu. If you want to be absolute cancer use an offhand crossbow and literally hardcounter their shit. Here, I made this webm for you of one of my recent SL60 invasions, you can actually see the exact moment where his will to fight is broken.
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>>187308084
Ultras can be good, but only when you're being chased by a mob. Against a lone host it's the worst thing to use because hosts tend to play vastly better when they're alone.
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>>187306413
>I think i'm going to get PS+
>hururur just invade people
Dumb fucking brainlet, keep your retardation and lack of reading comprehension to yourself you stupid fucking faggot. I shit on you, i have over 20 shackles now i don't need to invade anyone anymore i have fucking won you bitch.
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>>187308350
Just rolling around ultra users until they switch to a different weapon is pretty fun, but often they don't attack because they understand the golden rule of ultra weapon fighting - The person who attacks first loses.
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>>187308379
And it only took you eleven billion years of grinding instead of invading like somebody who isn't a bitch
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>>187307694
Progression and optimization strategies.
>Linear world map
>no sequence breaking, most bosses are in a mandatory order
>weak point bosses where your build doesn't matter at all because they have the same strategy no matter what you use
>can't re-fight bosses
>buffs cancel each other instead of stacking
>heavy weapons are only barely stronger than light weapons
>all the fun buffs llike RTSR were nerfed to hell so only extremely niche builds can even use them
>no proper dual wielding, just gimmicky paired weapons
>bad infusion/equipment system that punishes multiclassing, casters, or
>damage types barely make a difference, except for lightning against dragons because lore
>no new NG+ content
>requiring mid-late game rings to make casting viable as a damage class
>softcaps and level cost is so high that you need to be SL180 to properly multiclass, and you can't even optimize a single stat during a NG run
>DLC contains all the best rings and equipment, but isn't really accessible until the end of the game.
>Enemies are WAY harder if you're underleveled

It makes it feel not like a Souls game. DeS had 5 different archstones you could go to, DS1 had the master key, DS2 had 5 different paths from Majula, what does DS3 have? The dancer skip? Just so you can get chunks in an optional area?

In DeS, DS1, and DS2, having the right equipment more than made up for a difference in level. Since weapon upgrades are tied to your progression (literally no large shards before carthus and no chunks before lothric castle) and there's no armor upgrades in DS3, if you're under leveled you're just fucked.

Souls has always been about customization, finding your own path, and role playing, and that's at its weakest in DS3. BB has the same problem, which is why DS3 is "BB with knights" instead of a souls game.
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>>187308084

Or, you know, a dragonslayer axe or mad king crucifix or gael's greatsword or any number of other great weapons that aren't ultras.

Ultra are only good when paired with a fast weapon (often a straight sword) in some way, either dual wielding (switching between 1H and 2H) or swapping between them in the main hand. If you literally only use an ultra weapon and nothing else you're gonna have a bad time against anyone half decent. One of my favorite builds is cathedral knight greatsword offhand with heavy longsword in the main hand, 2H'ing the CKGS most of the time and switching to dual wield to finish people off or to switch things up. Works wonderfully, but you have to be prepared like that to take on any situation.
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thinking of making a pyro build, what weapon should i main other than longsword and when should i stop my attunment at? 18 or 24?
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>>187308252
is this porn

because if this is porn... SOURCE, NOW.
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>>187308943
Onyx and Demon's Scar, 18.
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>>187308968
hehe
Lurk more, KID
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>>187308543

The problem with invasions is that the invader is often required to be the aggressor, so if the other person won't attack first either you're kinda fucked. They're great if you're being chased though but even then, I've certainly experienced plenty of good players who will pressure you just waiting for you to swing once or twice so they can either backstab you or just dodge and R1 spam the shit out of you, it gets pretty disheartening depending on who you're dealing with and what weapon they have (like a curved sword).
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>>187308857
Yep good point. I for some reason people think that STR = ultras.

>>187308814
That really sounds like nitpicking to me.

DS3 has the best gameplay and the most balanced PvP in the series by far. But yeah I do like the world of DS1 and the aesthetics of DS2 as well.
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>>187309305
>the invader is often required to be the aggressor
Just hide behind mobs with the obscuring ring and snipe the host and his phantoms with a greatbow. Force them to chase you.
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>>187309378
>most balanced PvP in the series by far
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>>187302641
Help please.
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dark souls 1 lightning spear:

>available early
>nice damage
>useful number of casts
>satisfying sound effect instead of the pathetic fizzle in later games
>slow, deliberate throwing animation like i'm zues launching some massive bolts at someone

why did they fuck it up brehs
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>>187309305
Like half of being an invader is knowing how to make hosts chase you. It's a non-optional skill that you need to learn.
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>>187309654
Yes that's what I said. Are you going to refute that?
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>>187309378
> best gameplay
Only the combat. Good visuals, good bosses, good combat, shit everything else.

>most balanced PvP
Not even close. Better than DS1, but compared to DS3, DS2 was way more balanced, pretty much everything was viable but also punishable, with only a few exceptions.

also if you like the aesthetics of DS2, you should try King's Field, Shadow Tower, or Evergrace, because DS2's visuals take after those games way more than they do DS1/DeS
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>>187309771
>available too early
>enough casts that you could just spam kill every boss with it
>basically the same animation in DS2/DS3
>too similar to soul arrows, so they made it a partial AoE nuke in the other games instead of a normal projectile
>Miyazaki hates religion, and also hates people who liked DS1

The sound effect and lightning visuals in DS1 are top notch though
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>>187309780
DaS2 had pretty good pvp balance, yeah. It's a shame that the controls were janky and the animations were fucked.

I also wish the poise numbers were better, because the system itself was better than both DaS1 and DaS3.

Dark Souls as a series is synonymous with failed expectations and crushed potential, at this point.
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>blighttown fps on console in namebrah stream
Jesus fucking christ, how horrible
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>>187309780
DS2 handles like a PS2 game. It also had the most retarded PvP mechanic in the entire series: Soul Memory. That alone disqualifies it from even being a contender for best Souls PvP title.
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>>187309772
>>187309510

Millwood GB is an option but gets boring after awhile imo. In invasions you need to both be able to handle being chased as well as chasing, there are plenty of times where it's down to just you and the host and the host starts running the fuck away, you need a way to deal with someone like that especially if they're gonna try to summon again or just wait for blues even.

Otherwise against ganks I just back up into the mobs and fight alongside them to even the odds a bit. I generally don't bother with millwood greatbow though, most people will fight in that situation, and those that don't, well... I have a 2nd computer monitor, I can entertain myself while they can't play the game, for as long as I want lol.
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>>187310014
>Dark Souls as a series is synonymous with failed expectations and crushed potential, at this point.

You mean From Software is syonymous with that.

They haven't had a non-disappointing game since Armored Core Last Raven. Because in 2006 they were nearly bankrupt and had to sell the company's soul to Sega to get a PS3 dev kit. Since then they've been passed around like a whore between a million different publishers until they got bought out by Kadokawa.
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>>187310250
>It also had the most retarded PvP mechanic in the entire series: Soul Memory.
kys Brainlet
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>>187309780

DS2 fag still at it, I see :^)
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>>187308943
fire axe (i dont remember what its called) is hilarious because alot of people have no experience against it so the weaponart destroys them, meme fists are also good if you arent a pleb
onyx blade can get intense meme-levels of AR (i got 770 on my 140SL) demon scar is great for pvp since it slices straight through most shields and the damage dropoff is minimal compared to the normal pyro fist
if you really wanna do pyro in pvp though the only thing you need to learn is to freeaim funsuns and how to bait people into great combustion
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>>187310285
>In invasions you need to both be able to handle being chased as well as chasing
Which is why I will switch between a greatbow and an Avelyn offhand depending on the situation.
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>>187307461
How does that even happen
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>>187310250
soul memory only has an effect at early game and exists purely to prevent twinks from invading people right at the start of the game

The only thing I would change about it is that it should not count souls lost when you die.

>DS2 handles like a PS2 game
DS2's movement and mechanics are way more complicated than DS1 and DeS's because they actually use momentum and varying animations. DS1 and DeS were "arcadey" because your character was unnaturally twitchy due to binary movement and no transition animations or angle controls

Is that better? Maybe. I like DS2's movement more because you have more control over it. But it's not as intuitive and every time you change equipment, your movement changes too.

It's no coincidence though since most of the people behind DS2 were from Armored Core, Otogi, and Evergrace, all of which were games that had way more complicated mechanics and basic movement than DeS/DS1.
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>>187310285
Most parties will start chasing you once you nail a phantom in the head with a greatbow just a single time.

Once they're chasing you, you can use invader tactics to win with a UGS. You can't chase with a UGS, though, so that's a bad idea. Better to have an off-hand dagger equipped. Corvian Greatknife is a good option for it, in my experience. Very, very long for a dagger.
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>>187310250
>DS2 handles like a PS2 game.
you say that like its a bad thing
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>>187310237
>framerate drops down to 20-25fps

and people say dark souls isn't kino
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>>187310691
>soul memory only has an effect at early game and exists purely to prevent twinks from invading people right at the start of the game
There are much smarter ways to accomplish this.

BTW Evergrace looks really cool. I like the unique artstyle. Definitely gonna download the ISO.
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>>187310982
Yuzo Kojima, director of Evergrace, was lead project manager for DS2.
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>>187310628

That's perfectly fine, I love using an offhand arbalest myself. I'm just saying there are other options, some people (like myself) don't want to bother with obscuring ring greatbow shenanigans, but if you do that's perfectly acceptable. I find it's often unnecessary though, most campingfags don't last longer than 5 minutes before they seem to say "fuck it let's just play im bored" and you can use the level on them. Or they'll jump off a cliff or pull the plug, both are fine by me. Even if they wait 10+ minutes I'll eventually just crystal out, knowing I stopped them from playing for that long so it's fine. I don't need to progress through the level, they do. Mostly I just want to play the game though, and luckily most other people do too, so you aren't FORCED to resort to greatbow shenanigans necessarily. Like, I used to do that, but nowadays I don't have the patience and would rather leave instead of wasting both of our time.

>>187310805

You'd be surprised, and I speak from having roughly 1500 hours of invasion experience in DS3 atm. Many will just move behind something (the big ass water fountain in central irithyll, for example) or pull out a shield and dodge the explosion. Sometimes they'll chase you a ways and then retreat, then chase then retreat, over and over. You'd think this would get incredibly dull after a while, but you'd be wrong in a surprisingly many cases.

Mostly people chase with a straight sword desu. Heavy infused longsword is a popular option. That said, 2H daggers work, SS's, katanas, spears, halberds... anything with a good running attack, really. Even curved GS's are nice because they're basically just ultras with an actually good running attack for a change.
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>>187310982
>There are much smarter ways to accomplish this.
I agree. But it's better than locking weapon upgrades behind bosses and removing armor upgrades, healing items, and buff items entirely, which is what DS3 did. Don't remove features just because of a lack of balance, -fix- the features instead.
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>>187311538
That fountain in central irithyll is actually fine, since they can't see you moving down the stairs and around the outside if you stick to the wall and have an obscuring ring on. Maneuver to the side and shoot them in the head again, and they'll chase. I've never seen it fail.

Cleansing Chapel is the one that always gets me. Sometimes the party will be idiots and will sit next to the back wall and I can get my shot in from the entry hallway, but often they just sit behind the door and I'll run in, see if I can drag them out myself, and then squat in the entrance until they get tired if they adamantly refuse to move.

I've got 300 hours myself and I don't often run into people who will just never leave the bonfire at all, even after being provoked. I don't think most people read that much into it, since they have no experience invading.
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>>187311538
Actually I use obscuring ring and greatbows to even the odds vs ganksquads rather than camping hosts. There's no point trying to 4v1 people so I just snipe at them, lead them into mobs, try to seperate them and pick them off one by one.

Greatbows happen to have roughly the same weight as the Avelyn which is why it's convenient to switch between the two. Avelyn is great for finishing people off before they get that sip off.
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>>187284502
>father is black
>"son" is white
it's usually the other way round
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Is Lightning Stake good or is Sonlight Spear still the go-to offensive miracle?
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>DaS1 on PS3
>clearing Demon Ruins, try invading
>get a hit, wonder who the fuck is hanging out here
>spawn in, seeing host and phantoms fighting demons, head that way
>TARGET WAS DESTROYED
I just wanted some PVP anons.
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>>187312782
Son, they're both good on different occasions. Stake can catch people with its lingering dmg even if you miss and Spear's +10% dmg and 2 hitboxes can delete ToD users
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>>187313005
ENB is streaming on the PS3 right now, you could try and go invade him. His SL is 40-ish so if you're in the range, go fuck him up.
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>>187298351
Just checked and whoever wrote that was a retard. I've handed over my 30 long time ago and been stocking ever since, I could offer 99 tongues no problem. Did you read it in fextra?
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God, I really hope we get to see anything from From during TGS.
I swear this company did something to my soul and I cannot enjoy any other games fully. I always end up craving for more souls and end up playing through entire series again and again and again.
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After last patch I can't access all bonfires through CE, anyone has working sheet or knows how to fix it?
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>>187314246
lol pcucks
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>>187314246
check if you have the latest table, if not wait until they fix the pointers,
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>>187314246
>"""""""""""""""""""""""master"""""""""""""""""""" race
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>enb is stuck sperging with the chat whether the lava in Demon ruins is yellow or green

He's hollowing rapidly dear god. Is it even possible for a 35 year old to be senile ?
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if i want to invade at Undead settlement i should go SL 20 weapon +2 right?
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>>187314980
Considering he's an entitled manchild, trying to stay relevant in a dead series. I'd say he's just delusional.
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>>187315026
Sounds about right.
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>>187314980
It's orange though
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I haven't watched ENB ever and already I dislike him just from this thread alone.
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When I make a new character in Prepare to Die for Steam, I seem to be completely disconnected from online. No bloodstains, no messages, no summon signs obviously, and cracked red eye always times out. But the weird thing is my older characters still work fine. Any idea what causes this?
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>>187316617
Get Wulf's Connection Tool, also known as DCSM. Servers been shitting themselves constantly and the tool can force nodes.
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Any tips for Oceiros on a twink build? Niggas wrecking my shit for some reason
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>>187316779
Grab a 100% physical block shield
Press L1
Repeat as necessary
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>>187316779
Heavy Shield.
L1.
Get Bleed.
R1 his ass.

Waow, hard.
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>>187316736
I'll try that, but why would that only affect some characters? Are the nodes per character?
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>enb's sister is in chat

only a matter of time till she's on stream
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>>187317332
>Servers shit themselves
>Only for specific characters
No, the connection is just godawful and takes a long time to adjust for some weird reason.
Nodes are connections.
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>>187316427
You shouldn't let people in the thread let you miss out on a great content producer.

>>187316617
Without DSCM PC DS1 is like playing offline
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>>187317568
Stop, please, for the love of christ just stop
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Chaos Claymore 268 AR at +2
or Raw flamberge 213 AR at +2
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>>187294270
You are a god among men. But there's a few more that you missed.

/eA5jKTnB1dScfIY1GHj2lw==/
/LjzONDNAgYFoXhCI0WunZA==/
/KhzTEoblm7IbaANxPnLPnA==/
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>>187317474
But even when there's two characters at the same level, same covenant, same place, I still have zero connectivity when I hop to one and full connectivity when I hop to the other. Are you sure it's not per character?
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>>187317867
Araki drew naruto?

>>187317960
>>187294270
WHAT ARE THESE
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>>187317968
As the degenerate here said >>187317568
Without DCSM, you're basically in a ghost town.
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hmmmmmmmm
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>>187318183
>She actually does what the degenerate fantasy about
Jesus fucking christ.
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>>187318107
>Araki drew naruto?
yes
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>>187318107
MD5 filters for the ENB spammer. Use them with 4chan X and you won't ever have to see any of his posts again.
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>>187318131
But I can play online without DCSM, just only on old characters. That's what's confusing me
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>>187306170
It's only bad in pvp because the thing it has for itself is gshield deflection, but there is no deflection in pvp. PvE it's one of the better shields
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>>187318575
Oh, you never stated those were old characters.
I guess characters when created also get assigned online properties to them, and those properties have been changed in the files and fucked up so far for newer entries.

>>187318559
GODSENT
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>>187318559
Unless he sees this post and modifies the images.
But he wouldn't do that, right?right?
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>>187318789
He's obsessive enough about letting people know about his sick fetish.
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>>187318559
>4chan X
I never knew this existed and from what little features I've stumbled upon this, this is god sent.
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>>187318789
Duskposter did.
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>scared to attempt to parry the champ
>try it anyways
>parry almost every attack and kill him on my first try
wew
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>>187319445
Congratulations you ruined one of the best boss fights in the series
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>>187319445
Champion Gundyr?
More like Chumpion Gundork.
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It's so fucking bullshit that Friede just randomly gets poise on her attacks every now and then even though she is just wearing nun clothes. Why Dark Souls 3 so fucking inconsistent?
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Can I have a 2smart too link the fire lord of hollows build? Preferably naked.
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>>187319612
>Poise disabled
>"Working as intended boys"
>Enabled as Hyper Armor out of nowhere to Greatweapons and Ultra Greatweapons
>Enemies seem to enable Poise out of the blue at times
I just.. WHAT HAPPENED WHEN THEY MADE THIS GAME?
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>>187319612
the fact that there's no visual indication of when attacks have hyper armor or not is a big problem in general
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>>187319445
>>187319490
Yeah I'm sorry, if using legit strats found within the game "ruins" a bossfight then it's a shit bossfight tbqh senpai
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>>187319490
Nay. Casters really ruin it. Parrying is ok.
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it's only acceptable to parry the champ if he's 1 hit away from death and he does his charge
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>>187313446
Ah fuck. Not at home.
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>453 hours in DaS3
>just now realized you can press "c" hotkey to close the right part of your inventory
>this allows you to use souls without the window closing and having to reopen it after consuming souls
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>>187319490
If Miyazaki didn't want Champ to be parried, he would have not made him parry-able.
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>>187319939
>>187319975
It's a way better fight if you choose not to parry honestly. FromSoft making Sully and The Champ parryable is a huge mistake on their part, it takes away from how cinematic the fights are.
>Big guy in robes jumps across a cathedral towards you with a giant flaming sword
>Big guy in armor charges across a graveyard towards you with a huge cast iron Glaive
>"lol L2"
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>>187320449
You can also just sell the souls to the Handmaid for exactly the amount of souls you would have gotten otherwise.
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>>187320692
thx for the tip, that will speed up things in the future
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Is vanilla DaS2 active at all on PS3? Don't have access to Scholar.
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>TFW Untended graves

Why is this so fucking spooky?
>>
Who the fuck designed Skeleton Doggos in Tomb of Giants?
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>>187321243
Then buy Scholar.
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>>187321243
almost everyone who does anything online for 2 went on to get scholar
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If demons souls was too hard for me, should I give dark souls a go?
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>>187321386
satan
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What do I buy with my SR ticket after 3 econ? I play zombos but all the Odion zombos are terrible.
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>>187321413
>>187321424
I can't get it currently but thanks.
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>>187321546
>>187321546
>>187321546

New Fthread
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>just found out this and Gael's WA are parryable
if the anon from the "Useful PvP data" google doc is here, the link is dead. add that parryable weapons spreadsheet when you're on it
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>>187321386
Don't use reinforced club r2.
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>>187302085
>putting grey and flat turd in the same category with masterpiece of art that is DS1 or even BB
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>>187257134
Fuck fun and fuck you stop playing this game - miyazaki
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>>187245804
I know it annoys people
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>>187312782
Combo one into the other
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>>187313954
this describes my feelings after playing armored core 2 back in 2001

souls is only a stopgap
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>>187321485
In what way was it too hard?

Dark souls is overall easier because there's no world tendency, but it can be harder because there's no warping, grass farming, or royalty class.
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>really close to a full cosplay
not bad. Anyway, does anybody know how to keep the DaS_GG interface visible while playing?
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