/dfg/ - Dwarf Fortress General

first for BDC

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Can't wait till Christmas for the update to arrive!

>>186322565
>I'll post the final fight tomorrow
8 days, 15 hours ago

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I just started this fort

>>187184006
Too deep

>>187185347
>Too deep
fucking elves

hot necromancer on kobold action

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>>187180591
Kill Six Billion Demons

I wonder if they'll make a sticky on /v/ when 1.0 comes out.

>>187186280
they won't even need a /v/ when 1.0 comes out, only /df/

Has Toady explained how the raids will be calculated? Is it some form of autocalc?

>>187187539
Explain what you mean by "autocalc" and I'll tell you whether it's that.

>>187187701

Autocalc would just calculate skills, equipment and numbers with a numerical value and do a math equation to come to a result. It's not a simulation.

>>187188091
How is that not a simulation? Or rather, what do you imagine the simulation is doing if not plugging numbers into formulae?

>>187188967
A simulation would run the entire thing, an autocalc is much simpler. Like Mount and Blade's autocalc vs running the battle.

Can you make trading agreements with dwarven civ if you're playing another civ? Played a few time as human but never had the chance to see a dwarven caravan.

>>187188967
He means arena style "drop a bunch of dwarves into a virtual pit filled with enemies and advance time until one side is all dead or flees".
More simple, he's asking whther we'll just get a "you won!" announcemen, or whether dwarves will come back missing toes, covered in scars, with increased misc object user skills from beating a man to death with a hat, and covered in weird blood.

>>187189202

That, and making sure that a multi-legendary dwarf in full steel plate will kick as much ass on a raid as he would back home, so you don't send 20 of them and half of them die to 80 goblins.

>>187189202
even though the off-site and world gen combat is abstracted, characters do lose bodyparts and get scars in them. I can't see why this wouldn't be the case with your squads.

>>187189141
Well, they'll be simulated the way other worldgen/background combats are simulated, but I think that doesn't amount to what you're calling an autocalc. But I'm not sure, as I'm unclear as to what differentiation you're drawing with that term. At all levels of abstraction the simulation is handled by calculations that are done automatically.
Just so i'm clear, is autocalc a word you made up and are now defining as meaning that?

>>187190363

Nope, it's a commonly used word in, for instance, strategy games.

>>187190363
He explained his source, Mount and Blade. It's a common theme in total War esque games where the outcomes of playing out a battle and clicking the "autoresolve" button are WILDLY different. Like you can win without losses if you play it out, but the autoresolve is a total rout on your side.

>>187190512

This

>>187190512
So you think he was asking if he would have the option to directly control his dwarves? Because I don't. In the medium you're referring to the other option is to control your armies/units, which obviously doesn't apply here. Every combat in df that happens away from the player could be described as an autocalc, but the original question appears to be drawing another differentiation by using that term that is still unclear.

>>187191959
You're right, the other option won't be controlling the dwarves.

The two otpions would be:

1. A full simulation
2. An abstraction

Then the question in 2 becomes how accurate the abstraction is, or whether a monstrously powerful multi-legendary dwarf in full steel will die to 5 goblins or so.

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autochalk

>>187185849
Im the guy who asked, and fuck me, that's a pretty obscure reference if I know one

I actually have read all there is to read about KSBD, but that didn't ring a bell

I actually haven´t read everything.I find the lore cool because Im a budistaboo, but it's simply way too much

>>187195689
I wanna bite into this

>>187196831
I wanna bite into you

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I wanna take a bite outta crime.

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Why did they remove "dwarfs stay inside"?

>>187197825
They added burrows and civilian alerts which are a million times better.

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Hmm, strand extracting gold works
It's weird to get only one thread when you could have one gold bar, Ill probably make a custom reaction instead
I want my king to have cool clothing

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>>187197456

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marcasite

>embark with standard 2x proficient sworddorf/dodger
>instant yeti next to where I'm trying to dig
>make two copper swords, no time for bronze
>assign each dorf a specific copper sword, tell them to kill the yeti
>the two retards ignore the swords, sprint straight up to the yeti and kick him to death over 28 pages
>neither took any damage
Did I luck out or is dodging really that OP?

>>187203746
Nice _rock_

>>187204075
It's strong, but the real benefit here is that random wildlife (even intelligent creatures like yeti) have 0 combat skills, so rank 5 in dodging gives you a pretty big advantage. Although rng is rng, so yeah you lucked out too.

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>>187204075
Yes, dodging is pretty OP. Swords are also pretty OP. And swords + dodging are hilariously OP.

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harlequin opal

I can't generate a good world with a desert...

I want to die.

Well this thread is depressing.

>>187215726
>/dfg/ doesn't really care about anything anymore

>>187213856
Are you using adv worldgen? If so, try using a mostly default preset, except lower rainfall drastically (try using a 4x4 grid of like 10, 4, 2, 1, 1) and reduce the maximum number of subregions if you're genning a medium or bigger world. If you're smaller than that you'll get a lot of rejection spam. If you want specifically sand deserts then lower drainage as well, try using the same grid settings. If you want to try and get those variable to "band" with each other, using the x and y variances can help a lot. Give either x or y a much higher variance for rainfall, and then give the exact same variance to drainage so they tend to overlap each other. The larger your world the higher you can make the variance without either having to increase the subregions or getting rejection spam.
Good luck.

Do you guys even play the game anymore or do you all just study the worldgen?

>>187216406
I just shitpost on /dfg/

>>187216406
I mod stuff and fuck around with dfhack

>>187210962
Rock mineral

>>187216406
What game?

>>187217574
Amored Core: Nexus

>>187221240
Not gonna lie, anon, I really enjoy mecha combat games, the more tactical the better. I hope that when both procedural magic and multitile creatures become a thing I can pilot a giant golem in adv mode. Or even better, assemble a band of mercenaries who will each pilot one of 5 giant lion-shaped golems that can join together to form Dwarftron, Golem Swordmaster.

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Remember what I said about weapons page on wiki being outdated in the last thread? Well, the ammo section into the trash should go as well. What bolts are made of now matters a lot - unless they are made of better material than the armor, they will simply bounce off, giving the target a slow death by a thousand bruises. Candy bolts are now definitely the best ammo in the game, completely shredding even full steel plates.

Anyway, candy > steel > iron >= bronze > copper > silver > rubber dildos > wood.

>>187222078
>I really enjoy mecha combat games
Me too, Anon, me too.

>>187222726
While I disagree to an extent with your other post, you're absolutely right about this. Toady fixed ammo properties back in .40.01 and it just got lost in the buzz with all the other flashy new features that version brought.

>>187222726
This is mostly true, but the is one situation where adamantine bolts are worse than bolts made from other metals, and that is when you are fighting an enemy that is wearing adamantine armor. You see, nothing can pierce adamantine armor, not even adamantine bolts, but that doesn't mean that the force of the blow won't bend or twist limbs, and here is why adamantine bolts are worse than other bolts in this situations, adamantine bolts can bend or twist limbs, but never with enough strength to actually cause damage, meanwhile bolts made of other materials, such as steel, can twist limbs with enough strength to actually cause damage, sometimes even managing to tear apart muscles, rendering that limb unusable. I don't exactly know why, but I assume that the superior weight of steel bolts means they will hit harder.

So, if you had to fight an enemy with full suit of adamantine armor, it would be better to pick up steel bolts rather than adamantine bolts.

I don't have any screenshots but I have tested this in the arena, and you can do the same if you want to see it for yourself.

>>187222726
Update the wiki then

>Kobold hillocks
How do you fuck up so badly

>>187224348
when will you ever be fighting an enemy in candy armor?

>>187225346
Well if you mod the game...

>>187225551
>cheating

>>187225294
Kobolds bandits can squat in any site with no civilized population.

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>>187224745
As I said before, I'll do it once I have some solid data, not just observations from several fights on the arena.

>>187225629
Cheating is supposed to give you an advantage

>>187226767
>lying

>>187222726
>Candy bolts
How long have I been gone...?

>>187227072
You've never been here in the first place if you don't know what candy is

>>187227072
Candy is what you go through to get clowns

>>187227532
actually, "candy" and "clowns" is a stupid meme used on bay12 to avoid spoiling hell to newfags. on /dfg/, people say adamantine and demons outright most of the time.

>>187228624
Clowns isn't used much here, but I've seen people use candy here several times.

>>187228624
Ok, autist.

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>$ ssh [email protected]
>$ ./vidya\ gaymens/rick\ and\ dorty/df_linux/dfhack
The way it was meant to be played.

>>187229162
I hope you get run over by a truck.

>>187225346
It's happened to me before. Adamantine-clad former soldier turned into a zombie by evil mist.
Basically invincible btw.

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>>187229249
t ahmad m*hammad

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>>187229162
ssh df is best df but dfhack is for worthless cheaters

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>>187229162
I hope you get run over by a boat

Is there a trick to generating one shapely landmass instead of some weird noodle shit with dozens of islands around?

>>187189608
I recall Toady saying that he is ensuring the abstracted combat will be rebalanced to make sure your legendary soldiers are as unstoppable as in regular combat instead of just shitty dicerolls deciding whether they survive a fight with a naked skilless goblin.

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>>187216406

>>187229701
It's quality of life desu, digvx.
>>187229846
Is /dfg/ the new islamic caliphate or sumthin'.

>>187228624
I've never heard clown used as a spoiler free reference. I just know it as spoilers. I don't think adamantine itself should really be considered "secret." Name a fantasy game without it. What happens when you bore through a vein of it is the surprise.

>>>/wsg/1845005

>>187231869
About 90% of the time I pick up my guitar nowadays this is all I play.

Any trick to using PerfecWorld without thousands of rejections?

>>187230117
>>187232870
What do you people DO with these all these worlds you so painstakingly create?

>>187233882
Point and laugh because they will never know the silky smooth pleasure of your mom's throat.

>>187234029
Joke's on you I facefucked my mother when I was 16.

>>187234414
greentext it in the style of a df combat log

>Only tileset I've used was Taffer
>Decide to try out spacefox and several other graphical tilesets
>They all look weird as shit

What are the go to ASCII tilesets?

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>>187236640
Myne.

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>Still no update or tourney finale

>>187236640
if you like non-square: vanilla

if you like square: not sure, but probably myne

>>187237253
Now we only have to wait for Zach to announce that Toady died from a heart attack and then can finally declare that this is the worst timeline.

>>187237567
That would be a great news desu

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>>187236640
Just play text-mode with a nice terminal font.

>>187238219
ikr!? toady has been ruining DF for TOO LONG. I can't wait for the COMMUNITY to step in and save it. just give the community a week, and we'll finally have the rape feature that toady has been too much of an SJW KEK to implement.

>>187238219
Sure we'd get the source code but people can mod the game anyways. I'd rather Toady puts his ideas into it than just let everyone have at it.

>>187231869
look last post

>>187239053
>/dfg/ here
don't be that kind of faggot

>>187237567
Please no. All the other video games I care about have gone to shit. Nier Automata was the monkey's paw to end all monkey's paws.

>>187239719
yeah okay, sorry

I was/am bored

>>187238621
>I'd rather Toady puts his ideas into it
One idea is years of waiting and bugs everywhere
And modding is pretty limited, at least dfhack helps with this
I wish he would get his head out of his ass and drive some people to work on his project but hes probably too much of an autist to do this

>>187239996
All good, anon. Post your fort. To alleviate the boredom a little.

>>187239919
I don't get it, are you trying to say that the price of getting a good game (Automata) is getting a bunch of teally bad games at the same time?

>>187225294
>>187225712
Plus hillocks are probably one of the few above-ground site types they WOULD like

>>187240429
Oh, my laptop is shit, I intend to play again with the new version once I buy a a better computer

I've actually not played the game in a long time excusing testing homemade mods
(before you ask, they are all unfinished, except a shitty mug-brass knuckles mod)

>>187240560
No, I'm saying that Automata isn't what I wanted at all out of a Nier sequel.

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Update on the comic adaptation of the 2nd dfg tourney:
I'm ready to get started on drawing it, but feel like I should wait for tourneyanon2 to come back and post the screenshots of the gladiator brackets/equipment/skills just so I'm not half remembering/half making shit up for the way some of the fighters (read - not mine) spent their points after the first/second/third bracket.
Man I forgot how good the fight descriptions were; reading through the archive again I'm getting excited to start drawing these battles. Another fun thing is trying to guess which fighters were managed by who, which is to say, what managers had more than one fighter. I only which fighters I managed and that Koksal's manager also submitted the final entry (which I think was Efeye, right?). If anyone who managed multiple fighters reads this, it'll help me out a bit if you can reply and tell me which fighters you managed.
The idea of making this a pretty faithful adaptation of a forum game into an actual fleshed out story with characters and names and a setting has got me pretty excited to get on with drawing it.

Where are you tourneyanon ;_;

>>187240429
>>187240630
I was watching ´´Born in the 4th of july´´

Really depressing movie. Made me give thanks fot bring alive and non-paralitic

>>187241804
If it helps at all, I'm IWRLIH's manager, and I didn't have any other fighter. His equipment never got upgraded from the lead minecart. I can't remember if he wore any clothes or not. I probably gave him some leather pants.

>>187241804
I managed Koksal the roach man and Efeye the desert elf.

Koksal was my main, Efeye was just some joke character (the joke being that he was a girl (male)) I threw in so that we could fill all the character slots.

>>187242373
>>187242847
eggsellent

>Efeye was just some joke character (the joke being that he was a girl (male))
oh yeah, I'm glad you reminded me of that.

>>187241804
I'm Li(his name was Li right)'s manager, and he was my only fighter.

>116 replies
>30 posters

>>187246008
>13 months without new content

>>187246008
>31 now

>>187246008
I've posted both from home and from a mobile IP, and I bet I'm not the only one.

>>187246826
Me too

Christ there ain't many of us

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>>187247648
No update, no posters

>>187241804
In 2017, Tourneyanon was killed by Reg Cogul the Mining of Leather.

>>187248674
>the gate of nature
Into the magma it goes

>>187248647
Who is Reg Cogul?

>>187249239
the Mining of Leather, slayer of TOurneyanon

>>187248975
Magma is natural, though. And we play with it a lot. "Fondlesoot".

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>>187195689
>>187196831
>>187197456
>>187197781
fuck, the lack of updates really spurs the shitposts.

>>187216406
I use the worldgen to create one-shots and world development for the group I dm for.
>They never suspect that a spire of slate thrust into the underworld spawning a horde of demons was a df idea.
>It made for a nice boss fight regardless

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Fuck I just want some new things to do. I am getting tired of making professional cloth dyers for +capes+. I want something new to do.

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>>187239053
I responded

>>187246008
I've made posts from 3 IPs. Work, home, and mobile.

>>187246008
I just realized that, while this is not completely dead, there's always about 20-30 veteran regulars that always have this general's tab opened
20-30 people whom I always talk to in every thread, practically every day

I have friends irl, people who care for me, and for whom I care, but I think I also care about you, regulars from /dfg/, you are good, and I hope we have many good times in the future

not even drunk or anything, just a thought I had
I imagined us like a big group of people sitting on a huge ass round sofa shitposting about toady

Do you think this game will eventualy have too many options. The interface is already complex when the game is only half finished

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>>187254446
and god damn is there a lot to shitpost about Toady

>>187254548
(Shift)(Ctrl)(Left Alt)v to open heatmap of dwarves moving in real time

>>187254446
wanna touch tips anon

>>187252284
try killing a forgotten beast with a blood cannon or a "blood danger room"

>>187255361
>wanna touch tips anon
I-I dunno

watcha mean?
I'll have you know this wouldn't be the first time I flirt with one anon from this general

>>187255681
fingertips(male)

>>187254446
Except that max fucker.

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>>187254446
>but I think I also care about you, regulars from /dfg/, you are good, and I hope we have many good times in the future

>people this gay share a thread with you
w e w
e
w

>>187256864
let's do this, right after I post, I'll be touching the screen of my laptop for a minute
you touch yours and report your feelings, rite?

>>187257257
he's manageable

>>187257763
you ain't seen nothin

>>187257851
>report your feelings, rite?
okay did you feel it? I used my dick

AAAAAAAAAH I WANT TO FUCKING KILL MYSELF I CAN'T HANDLE THIS ANYMORE MY LIFE IS NOTHING BUT PAIN PLEASE MAKE IT STOP MAKE IT STOP MAKE IT STOP

>>187258086
the off switch to life is buried in your wrist
grab a knife and dig it out
don't actually, this general is dead as is. pls don't leave

>>187257969
I'm sorry anon, I felt nothing

must be a dick so small it doesn't leave an astral bond
what a shame

>>187258086
can you maybe, chill?

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>>187258293
>must be a dick so small it doesn't leave an astral bond
>what a shame
kms

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>>187258598
>that image
whatever will happen
this chick is ok with it

>>187254446
On the other hand, anon, consider how many times you've argued with those same people. Chances are I've provoked you into calling me a faggot or suggesting suicide over a contentious argument about an obscure game mechanic or a minor point of posting etiquette. Food for thought.

>>187260553
That's just what friends do though.

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dolomite

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This is what happens to any general that goes too long without intervention. It stagnates, accumulating the same people and gaining its own personality inherent to all those anonymous posters. If anything, the tourney was a blessing because it brought new blood. Without it, you just become /ksg/ no matter how much more you're talking about the actual game.

>>187265360
Could be worse. It could turn into another waifufaggotry circlejerk.
I think we should strive to do tourneys regularily and maybe even other organized communal games like succession forts if only to give people something to talk about. But if the current tournament is any indication that's probably a pipe dream.

The 4chan board icon colors are changing on my tab tree. HIROOOO!!!

>>187265360
Start another tournament.

>>187266706
Or a succession fort

>>187266752
Or another tournament

>>187266836
Or a kobold harem

>>187266893
Or a don't reply to me ever again

>>187267417
Or a (you)____________________

>>187265360
yes

>>187266752
This one sounds cool

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Another fortress, another werenigger ruining everything.

>>187268676
How does one disable werepeople? Because I'd do it in a heartbeat. Fuck them.

>>187268676
Turn them off in advanced world gen.
That's what I do.

>>187268401
last time i witnessed a thread try to do a succession fort it was an atrocity
nobody knew how to actually play the game and much less had any idea how to take turns and it turned into a veritable git tree worth of forts

>>187268770
dont be a pussy

>>187271506
I'd be a pussy for you.

>>187270835
What's the fucking problem with taking a turn, anyway? If we take two years, we take two years. You enable autosaving. Save file starts in spring, the next time you see "spring his arrived" you pass on the save file, compressed because that's a whole lot of raws. Done. Wherein is the major malfunction?

>>187268676
>bring soldiers, ore and coal during embark
>make coke
>smelt ore
>forge weapons and armor
>have soldiers train near the entrance guarded by war doggos
>prepare a stockpile for the werebeast corpse
It really isn't that difficult.

>>187271686
how do anon into computer help i just brows forchan on my iphone

>>187272325
You say that like a joke, but that's the norm now. 80%+ of all unique IPs globally are just wireless device connections.

Kobolds

>>187273747
Cutebolds

>>187274419
Qtbolds

>>187273747
We need swolebolds

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>>187273747
>>187274419
>>187274639
Settle down, everyone. Soon enough the new release will be here, and you can enjoy dying from a GCS bite while kobolds stab you with copper spears when you tried to sneak into their cave and recover a kingdom's lost Skull of The Fiftieth Cent

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>>187268770
>>187268676
I don't want to disable werepeople or necromancer or any disaster outright. Just disable them for one or two years or until I have a basic militia running around.

It really toggles my cats when I hear some dwarves saying that we shouldn't let our goblin friends into the fortress. I believe it is our duty to help those in need and we should share our plump helmets and booze with goblin visitors. We are producing 50 steel bars every month, but poor goblins have to use copper and iron, where's your compassion? Dwarves only see them as violent besiegers, but I'll have you know, those are not real goblins. Goblins are race of peace and it really pulls my levers that our green friends have to suffer oppression because of some unfortunate ambushes. Many of them are legendary wound dressers and siege engineers (which has nothing to do with sieges). Dwarves talk about hammergoblins and lashers, but the truth is, most visitors are mothers with children (which aren't kidnapped, you fucking bigot, goblins can have beards too). I also think that baron should ban certain engravings. Just not so long ago, I was climbing some 3x3 stairs when I saw an engraving. It was an image of dwarf and two goblins. The dwarf was striking down two goblins. I felt sick and I retched x12 and I vomited x13.
I mean, come on, it's 1050, we're not in the Age of Myth anymore.

#notallgoblins

>>187275076
>1050
>not in the Age of Myth
>#notallgoblins

t. Snodub

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Is this good or should I keep generating?
Once site cap is reached there won't be any new settlements made ever, right?

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>>187275076
>siege engineers (which has nothing to do with sieges)

Can you start playing at year 5 and have new sites be founded while you play or is this exclusively a worldgen feature.

>>187276526
Dwarves will establish and reclaim sites up to the site limit, after that its all up to the player. Other entities will too but, again, to the site limit.

If you can answer the riddle of admantine i will release the next update 1 month before time, if you fail i will delay it with 4 months

Best animals for slaughter on desert embark? Most of my embark points went to alcohol mind you.

>>187262117
yeah, you must learn to stand the bantz and the hostility

>>187265360
look, Im the anon from before

I have been in this general for years and I have been several tripfags, and yet, I always come back to being my anonymous user

This general hasn't been tainted with my personanility, mind you, because I value the anonymousity of this page in several ways

And that's coming from someone who was in the 3000# thread party on /ksg/, one of my favourite generals

That aside, we could really use some more activities to spice our game up, like>>187266094
says, like hand-made levels for /dfg/ to play and that
There's nothing wrong with new users either, don't get me wrong

Behead Tourneyanon

bBood for Amrok and bones for the bone crafter

>>187278236
>And that's coming from someone who was in the 3000# thread party on /ksg/, one of my favourite generals
fuck you

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>>187278812
why the fug would a VN even warrant an entire general? what remains to do in the actual game after reading through all routes? posting stale memes and cringey roleplay?

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>>187278236

>>187279301
KS is different, since it was made by/on 4chan, so there's more to discuss. KSG obviously lived long past any hope of organizing any actual followup effort, and it turned into a poster child of endless shitty chatroom generals full of waifufagging, tripfagging and blogshit.

>>187280053
>made on 4chan
Initially, then taken over by a bunch of normies and circlejerkers.
There isn't any 4chan project that goes without it, never has.
That also doesn't mean it has any more to discuss, you fucking cunt.

>>187280342
>that also doesn't mean it has any more to discuss
potential to gather another group of anons to develop a sequel was there, for a while.
obviously that never happened and the general is a pretty much a fucking travesty.

anyway, none of this has anything to do with DF

>embark as a dwarf civ with 3 sites and 5 historical figures, but not dead according to legends
>caravan doesnt arrive
Bad feel

>12 nuggets

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How fast do dwarves age/when do they stop being considered attractive or fit for combat?

>>187283067
>considered attractive
not a thing in DF.

>fit for combat
until they drop dead.

>>187279301
>>187278812
>>187279351

it's a beautiful story that has made people better themselves, and realize some stuff about life
It also creates great stories, like that guy who changed the desktop picture of his generals' laptop to a picture of hanako in the army

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>>187284401
No, it's a shitty story with shitty writing that has brought a bunch of /jp/-tier shitters into the same general for five fucking years.
And if that is a great story, then you should have the ability to label anything withheld from you indefinitely.

>>187284401
>great story
I've seen Legends mode dumps be written better than that piece of shit

>>187284401
it was a typical retarded anime plot with forced clichéd feels.

for the prose, they proved the illiteracy of weeaboos by unironically imitating shitty translations from japanese.

>>187286193
I played the beta of KS, you know, the one before the weeaboos took over. Hanako or whoever got ran over by a car in it. It was fucking great.

>27 z levels below surface
>still cant find cavern
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>187287678
you might have missed it.

>>187287753
I know, but I don't want to break my corridor aesthetic to look for the fucking cavern.

>>187287941
Use ground penetrating roadar.

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gneiss

>>187292784
nice

I want to grow trees
How many years will I have to wait?

>>187294531
3 years from sapling to a cuttable tree. More if you want better yields from the tree. If you're doing underground trees, the mushroom trees (anything that ends in cap) give much lower yields than the others.

>>187295898
I meant, cultivating trees, for fruits and other stuff, instead of relying on the RNG. And I was talking about IRL years, is there even any plan to improve agriculture?

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>>187296208
I would suggest the horticulture section of /an/. They gave me some help with succulents I was growing a while back.

magic update when

>>187297598
>I would suggest the horticulture section of /an/.
is the autistic dutch elliot rodger still there?

>>187297598
Looks like a pet board desu

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>>187257257
I think he was finally banned for avatarfagging, hasn't been around in a while.

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>>187293486
people talc a lot of schist about gneiss, but I sulphur those fools, because I could look at pictures of gneiss allanite. some of the great things about gneiss just fluorite over people's heads.

Thinking about it makes my bedrock.

>>187306583
Coal story bro.

Is Toady going to fix these ridiculously unbalanced feels ever? I can let my dwarves sleep on the floor in rotted clothing for years and they're still happy as can be.

>>187309627
Nope.
And probably never will.
http://www.bay12games.com/dwarves/mantisbt/view.php?id=9812
http://www.bay12games.com/dwarves/mantisbt/view.php?id=9660
The only solution: Play an older version.

>>187309627
Magic is more important anon!

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>>187310183
>Severity: minor
What? Considering it makes a significant part of fort management pointless

>>187310280
It unironically is.

>>187310709
The person who reports the bug chooses the value for that field. It has no relationship to the bug's actual impact on gameplay beyond the bug reporter's opinion, and no impact on how bugs are selected for fixing.
That said, it is pretty minor. It doesn't cause crashes or harm performance. It doesn't break the functionality of any features outside itself or cut off access to any content (except maybe fell/macabre moods). It's fix will be simple weighting tweak. On the spectrum of df bugs it's practically nothing.

>>187309627
>>187310183
> only solution: older version

actually DFHack has a utility called "misery" that multiplies the effect of unhappy thoughts. now you can have tantrums and such again without the rediculous loyalty failure spirals of the old version.

>>187312102
I tried misery but then it becomes the opposite, everyone is constantly stressed

>10 year old bugs won't be worked on
>he's gonna add an entire magic system
>the 1000 new bugs also won't be worked on
>he's then gonna add 500 new features
>the 1000000 new bugs still won't be worked on
And repeat the process.

Speaking of which, has the FPS death always been around the same, or has any specific feature caused a large drop in fps quicker?
I can't imagine the billion new processes being added keeping the game running stable for a reasonable amount of time.

>>187312667
Everyone is aware that something's got to give, the current system won't work.

>implying DF is going to be finished
pffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffft

>>187312667
World activation added in .40.01 appears to be the biggest recent offender on that front. There's just a lot more the game tracks since then. Multitile trees (added in the same update) have also been fingered as culprits, and I've had some anecdotal evidence of my own to support that supposition, though I've also seen reason to think it's not as simple as that.

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>>187313126
>implying DF is going to be updated
He he he

How do you join the cult of Toady?

What trials must i brave to become a full fledged member?

>>187313461
The first step is to convince yourself that Toady is a genius and that the game isnt going to die in the next years

>>187313628

This seems doable

Could I melt a giant golden dwarf statue to smother an invasion force?

>>187313312
I can't adequately explain why, but that "Rhinoceros first horn horn" gets me giggling.

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>>187314602
forgot pic but something like this

>>187314602
Would be cool but no

>>187314602
Sort of but not really. You could submerge a bunch of gold statues in magma, and then use the magma laced with gold to kill invaders. But that just seems like a waste of gold statues since you would accomplish the same thing with just the magma.
Also never reference that movie in my general again or you'll be sorry.

>>187314804
I forgot how bad that looked

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>>187315087
>who you trying to get crazy with ese?
>dont you know im loco?

>>187284539
>>187284707
>>187286193
>t. haven't read ks

Legit cried when hanako has a breakdown in his route
Why can't you apreciate a good story anons?

>>187313312
Where's the pic of young Toady in the orange shirt from?

I bet it's from his time as a researcher. It has that university staff member feel to it.

>>187314804
What a horrible movie that nobody wanted, stretched over like 9 hours and more movies.

>>187315254
>Legit cried when hanako has a breakdown in his route
I've heard people say that about every shitty VN.

crying doesn't mean shit, by the way. I sometimes cry when I read obituaries in newspapers (especially when they are about dead children). that doesn't make them masterful writing.

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>>187315182
I'M WARNIN YOU

>>187315182
this gif always confuses me. during the time that passes from the moment when the leader dorf gives the order to that the other dorfs actually fire the projectiles, they would already have gotten hit by the arrows.

furthermore, why do the arrows travel in slow motion when the cavalry moves in real time in the same shot?

>>187316558
Because they arent arrows, they are actually little flying kamikaze fairies

>>187315286
I don't know. He looks like a college frat.

>>187316558
It's not linear, the arrows fire when the dwarfs are already coming down from the hill.

>>187316558

Its magic aint gotta explain shit

>>187316558
>gif
.webm*
This is not imgur.

>>187315648
>crying doesn't mean shit, by the way. I sometimes cry when I read obituaries in newspapers (especially when they are about dead children). that doesn't make them masterful writing.

desu, I never usually cry. If a Vn, a film or whatever can deliver a story so well told it makes me cry, it's usually a great example of its field

It's not even cheap shit to make you feel bad, the characters are complex and interesting, and the whole game gives a well done point

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>>187317010
I did some digging through the universities he's been at with the wayback machine, and I found this. Apparently the photo is from his time at Texas A&M.

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>be tourneyanon
AYO HOL UP
>misspells plumpz ice-cream for the 600th time
SO YOU BE SAYIN'
>spoils the most hyped fight of the tourney by posting the wrong webm
YOU BE SAYIN' THAT
>gets drunk on national holiday and misses tourney night without telling anyone
SO HOL UP
>genderswaps gladiators and forgets to give them their upgrades
YOU BE SAYIN' DAT ADAMANTINE CLOAKS
>dies of heroin induced stroke after contracting anal cancer
SO YOU BE SAYIN' THAT CLOAKS
>never posts the final fight, leaving the general to rot in uncertainty
THAT CLOAKS ARE OP AND SHIIIEEEET?????

>>187319830
>national holiday
Last time I checked, we didn't know where he lived, only that he's European.

>>187320156
He's french since the day before(or that same day, I don't remember) he posted that was a national holiday in France.

>>187320156
He's French and in Paris iirc

>>187320156
wasn't he a britbong? I remember some guy saying he was, but i don't remember his reasoning.

>>187320379
>and in Paris
F

Actually he said hes australian and moved to europe some years ago

He is of Puerto Rican descent.

I heard he was Angolan diaspora in Finland

You all are wrong, none of you is right.
Tourneyanon is a goblin trying to destroy /dfg/ by causing a tantrum spiral.

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>>187322321
>You all are wrong, none of you is right.

>>187321069
Dunkey = Tourneyanon2

everything makes so much sense

>doing some moddings in plant raws
>oranges are actually mandarins
Is toady dumb or is it an american thing?

>>187323078
Aren't mandarins just a type of small oranges

>>187320156
>>187320332
>>187320379
>>187320395
>>187321042
>>187321069
>>187321797
>>187322321
"All we know is he's called the Tourneyanon"

>>187323126
Its more like oranges are a type of big mandarins
I just find it weird that he put the botanical name in the raws and then put the wrong tree after

>>187323349
Nice job quoting everyone, wow.

>>187323363
>The orange is a hybrid between pomelo (Citrus maxima) and mandarin (Citrus reticulata). It has genes that are ~25% pomelo and ~75% mandarin
Interesting.

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>>187320156

So the terrorists got him, probably got trucked to death

Or

He might be the mastermind behind the terror in France and got his cover blown and iis as we speak fleeing from French authorities in a Nissan Micra desperately trying to reach a WIFI zone to send the last battle of the tourney before he gets busted.

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>https://sites.math.washington.edu/~reu/papers/1998/adams/adams.pdf

>>187324506
I already said that we will be seeing him soon here https://www.fbi.gov/wanted/terrorism if he's not in already

>>187324947

>Turns out Mr Tourney is actually the head of the Al Quaida and COBRA and simply use /dfg/ to pass his time since there nothing to do when your a super villain with thousands of underlings doing all your work

We must cut all bonds to him immediate before the NSA hear about it and start cracking down hard

>tfw you just found a 49 page long transcript of an audio interview with toady from 2009
I don't know any of the context, all I know is that some texas university hosted it. The download seemed kinda sketchy. I probably wouldn't download it if it wasn't from an .edu domain.

It might just be some of the interviews I already have in my collection, but it doesn't seem familiar. It might be an unknown interview.

>>187328502

How long until you have strains of Toadys noble hair and samples from his bed mr stalker?

>>187328502
GIB LINK

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>>187324614
im a bit of an idiot, what does that even mean?

>>187328680
just google
>Tarn Adams [Developer, Designer & Founder] April 19, 2009

it will be the topmost hit. it seems a bit sketchy, since opening the page will save the document to your temp folder without asking for permission. but like I said, it's an edu domain, so I can't see any problem.

I'm investigating the context at the moment.

>>187329134
UPDATE:
here's the context for the interview transcript:
>https://wsampson.wordpress.com/2011/07/29/dwarf-fortress/

he also linked to a download for the audio.

it's some guy interested in archiving old games to preserve them. he had a project about it, and used to run a (now defunct) website. that's the context for the interview.

this might be the rarest toady interview to date, considering it's not mentioned ANYWHERE but on this blog.

>>187329134
Its a ruse do not go to this link

>>187329678
>>187329696
>https://repositories.lib.utexas.edu/handle/2152/8596
the direct link to the university website where the interview can be found.

>>187248674
How did Olon Lessonrack die?
Also, is it normally possible for there to be two separate images in the same material?

>>187254548
>too many options
No such thing, assuming you can always get to the ones you want/need without too much difficulty. And my experience is that when it's decided that there are "too many options" and that some should be removed, it's always really useful stuff that's removed and pointless junk that's left in.

>>187276526
I started my current fort in year 2. I'm not sure if new sites are founded while I'm playing, but they definitely got founded while my dwarves were travelling to my fort at the start.

>>187277852
If you're just going to slaughter them right away it's the same as for any other embark. If you're going to keep them around on the surface for a while you'll want something that doesn't graze.

>>187282069
I wish I could figure out how to set up a fort that never receives caravans or migrants.

>>187301232
He might have been travelling for the eclipse. That's where I've been the past week.

>>187319769
He looks remarkably old in that picture, despite the fact he was at least a decade younger than now.

BEGONE

YOU ARE NOT MY LIEGE

>>187301232
>be in every thread for years
>get bitched at by some anon
>busy with drums
>musta been banned

>>187330412
Nah, saw it from my yard, hit 93% here.

>>187330412
Also how does he look old with that smooth babychin?

The tourney does not exist, it was all in your head.

STRIKE THE BUMP

>>187330412
Olon burned to death after killing a forgotten beast made of fire. He was a former spearmaster who once dropped his adamantine spear during a siege and never picked it up again. I never tried to fix it because he immediately started climbing horizontally along a ledge 1z below where the gobs were spawning and smacking them with his shield. Inappropriate climbing is a time-honored tradition in our fort and his was by far the coolest use of it, so I thought "don't fix what ain't broken". Over the course of time he became an elite wrestler. On the fated day he initially ran from the FB, using his familiar climbing skills to move mushroom cap to mushroom cap, until he found his courage and dropped out a burning whitecap right next to the creature and beat it to death with his shield. His older brother Sazir, a mechanic, spent days in shocked bereavement. His only other relative here were an aunt and a grandmother (whose husband had become a werechameleon and died to a FB years earlier), both elite marksdwarves, neither of whom cared very much. I still haven't filled his spot in the squad he fought with.
There were two raw smoky quartzes used in the creation of the artifact, which is why there could be two images made from it.

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page ten?

This general is dead, and so am I.

new tournament when

Holy shit we've hit page ten three times in a row

Page ten!
Sage, sweet release

>>187353736
Anon you must put "sage" in the options field if you want it to work, you didn't and you bumped the thread.

I've done it correctly and put sage in the options field and as you will see this post won't count as a bump.

>>187353919
I misspelled it actually
I sagged the thread. Sag!

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>>187354094
Sagged you say?

>>187354203
Huh, the boobs seemed quite more saggy when I selected the image, oh well, it'll have to do.

PAGE TEN

AGAIN

>>187357536
just let it die anon... let us die... let us... goodbye

So this is how /dfg/, not with a bang, but with a whimper...

>>187361891
Bang bang bang?

>>187362787
What the fuck is wrong with you? Why would you post that here?
Delete and >>>/b/

>>187363001
>Why would you post that here?
It's a warning.

>>187363056
No, it's you being an edgy child with no concept of the appropriate place for your neurosis.

>>187362787
>ISP is throttling 4chinz and can't watch webm
UGH IT NEVER BOTHERED ME SO MUCH UNTIL I WAS UNABLE

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I have the lazy mac pack installed but non of these three seem to alter the game at all when I launch them

>>187363757
Are you seriously getting triggered by a dumb frog getting butchered alive?

>>187363757
>muh edgy
Get outta here

>>187364095
>>187364136
You're right, fuck me for thinking that a video of an animal being tortured to death doesn't belong on /dfg/.

>>187364583
You're culturally insensitive! Please report to your local re-education camp IMMEDIATELY.

>>187364583
>>187364758
This

You're just a fucking racist that doesn't respect asians and their culture.

>>187364583
Yeah, now if you all don't mind I've got goblin children to pinch the limbs off of before chewing off their facial features and setting them on fire.

>>187365787
Are you talking about Mayweather?

>>187365983
I bet this is a good time to collect some sweet pink wojaks. I saw quite a few betting threads on /biz/ last night.

>>187365787
Ah fuck I knew that nigger was gonna win, but I didn't fucking bet.

>>187369465
>tfw I knew he would beat Pacquiao but, didnt bet
>could have made a cool G
>fast forward
>in glorious south USA surrounded by white supremacists
>Knew he would beat McGregor, still didn't bet
>fml

>>187370775
Get fucked nigger

>>187371161
I mean, if I am a nigger than I'm the whitest nigger I've ever met. I'm like Edgar Winter level of white. You'd lose me in a snow storm white. I'm #FFFFFF white. I'm talking [COLOR:7:7:1] white.

>>187371564
You can't hide from me you albino nigger

>>187371962
What if he ran out into the snow?

>>187374860
I have a dog specially trained to track down niggers, he can but he can't hide.

do threads turn into /b/ before they die? is /dfg/ in its death throes?

>>187376937
Kobolds

>>187376937
It's always been meme hell. When the update hits, you're gonna see some serious shit.

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>>187376937
>>187377730
Urist felt -annoyed- by the lack of updates
Urist took joy in shitposting recently

>>187377054
>77054▶
>>>187376937
>Kobolds
Agreed

>multiple shallow metals
>multiple deep metals
>not a single weapon grade
kill me

>>187381236
A+

>no outpost liaison
>but the civilization is alive
Am I forever doomed with an expedition leader?

>>187384154
we have this post at least once a week.

no liaision does NOT have anything to do with dead civs, it just meant that the civ didn't have a liaision at the time that they sent the caravan.

Started playing this a few days ago
I've been doing well so far, my food stocks are a little down but I got plenty of stuff to trade for food

what I mean to ask is, there are so many industries and workshops, which ones are more important and urgent to build?
I know that masonry/carpentry/craftsdwarf workshop/farm/fishery/butchery are pretty good to get asap, but what about the others?

>>187386441

metalworks.
unless you want to have !fun! when FB comes and throatfuck your unarmoured and wooden xbow wielding militia

>Welcome to the stalest general on /vg/

>>187387560
the regulars are either playing playing the game or waiting for updates, while newfags shitpost because they're new to 4chan and think that's what it's all about here.

>>187387560
what's there to post about?

>>187388662
Exactly

>>187388662
>>187389813
your experiences from playing the game? if you're not playing the game, you have no reason to be here.

>never played df, only here for the banter and general culture
in that case, you're the problem and should stop posting here.

Do new dwarves get poofed into existence ex nihilo if there is no hist figs or generic pops but the civ is alive?

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>>187392406
>your experiences from playing the game
haven't had a chance recently, probably won't get a chance for months desu
now I just lurk the general awaiting the update and to keep up with memes
>>187392787
if there's no hist figs or generics, then in what sense is the civ alive? I don't understand.
and yes, if a civ lacks migrants to send, your first two migrant waves will come anyway, made up of randos