/mbg/ - Mount & Blade General

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>>187099231
Before I forget :
updated the pastebin to include recent videos (including the ones from insider anon) and the new mods

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Reminder not to save other peoples dank memes because it devaluates the memeconomy

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>>187099798
DO YOU SEE WHAT YOU'RE DOING?

WE'RE RUINING THE MEMESCAPE AS WE TYPE

>>187099128
thanks for advice, anon I (You)'d you in the old thread (with my concern)

>>187100214

>>187099798
>jun 03, 2016

I hope my grandchildren live long enough to play on launch day

I've been gone since the 19th and just came back from holiday, what'd I miss

>>187101071
some bonerlord fight videos
nothing spectactular

Am I the only one disappointed they kept the exactly same combat system? I can dig that for pve, but despite being thankfully slowed down a bit, I believe it will still be a cancer in pvp. Good thing 95% of my playtime is sp campaign

>>187101907
>t. shitter

So does this mod have Diplomacy fixes from Dickplomacy?
https://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php/topic,356426.0.html

>>187101950
are you retarded?

>>187102401
where did the feints hurt you anon?

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>>187101235
shock infantry is hype

>>187101907
>the same combat system
wot

have there been any remotely new nuggets of info picked from the videos

>>187103654
no

>>187100437
Just don't bother with higher difficulty for Xp, or only do so if you're having a cakewalk. Can't really give any advice on the story mode since I have yet to play it.
The option for xp should be in the in-game menu somewhere. I'll try to look into it

For a long time I did start characters in VC before dropping it, several time.

Now I play with.
Skill malus from heavy armor since it also applies to ennemies and that prevents sanic fast vikings made of murder
wounds because why not, its not that bad.
no stamina
rest improve morale because why not and its not that much of a handicap

>>187103425
>shock infantry is hype
i mean i use them in Floris

>>187103654
lots of small combat details

>not playing MP
Lmaoing at ur life rn

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>>187101071
New MP mode for Bannerlord in which you can play 5v5 and each of the players has the control of a small group of units. They must capture objectives or eliminate the other team.
They showed some troop yet unseen before that, pic related.
Armagan got rudely cut on screen, cockblocked from showing 10 minutes more of gameplay.
Clibanarii are OP for the Empire
Battanians a shit

>playing Mount & Blade instead of Tiger Knight™: Empire War® in 2017

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>>187104220
>Armagan got rudely cut on screen, cockblocked from showing 10 minutes more of gameplay.
I'm mad

>>187104220
>Battanians a shit
Battanians and Khuzait had the best showings in the last streams though

>>187104257
>Multi-player only.
Yeah, no.

>>187103884
I'm moving foward so far, atm I'm looking for some skyscrapper which supposed to be at wharf appareantly. I don't wanna spoil the story (I barely started anyway).

I like what I see there (kinda), but to some point, this mod is really retarded. Like size of the every fuckin open locatian,,,wtf?
I haven't taken single athletics point for me nor companions for years, I did so for the first time in polygamy dickplo, but honestly , I had no other option to do.
Here I've opened char. tab after I leveled for first time, checked that I have 4 points in athletics already and put all new points from lvlup.. I didn't think for a second about it

If you missed the first live that had single player gameplay its here from 1:28:20
https://youtu.be/V4XZ2dpXv44?t=1h28m22s

>>187105436
>Like size of the every fuckin open locatian,,,wtf?
mods that go for realism have an odd tendency to put extreme detail into towns and furthermore expand them... Without adding meaningful content to the towns and despite the fact that one of the most popular mods being the ability to access guild masters via menus.

>>187105436
Its definitely useful but try to get a horse quickly, it helps

>>187105587
I don't get what this entire integrate as a vassal thing is supposed to accomplish. Giving you control of faction troops?

By the time you have 50 renown you should have a modest little band anyways. Why would a King vassalize some loser who can't contribute a warband for his cause? Or attempt to defend the very shitty village that kings are obligated to force on you as a starting vassal?

>>187105015
>Deleted
wew lad

>>187106051
I followed the advice of >>187099259, it works

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Today's blog, Q&A with the man himself
https://www.taleworlds.com/en/Games/Bannerlord/Blog/22

>>187106318
I fucking new I forgot to put something in the OP
Thanks
>>187099231 Link for the next one making the OP

>>187106318
i should have added, its fucking nothing

redpill me on vlandia

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>>187108269
this is all you need to know

>>187108269
there is nothing to say of blandia

they never show aserai

>>187108407
Is there besides boring content like Battle and many Faction also something valuable added in Bannerlords like a real economy that makes trading worth it and real production chains. A real diplomacy and Nation managment?
Or anything else that could be actual fun?

>>187105705
Seems that it's true, but everything looks pretty cozy, so I guess I could stand this stuff for liitle bit more. I'n not /ha/fag at all, but guts tell me that this is some real shit out there. Like these funny weapons of these "looters" (cones and shit). Music is also pretty cool. And my toaster handles all this better than native, with better settings for some reason.
Btw. there is implemented possibility to poke your eye off with own slingshot, isn't it? I'm pretty sure there is.

>>187105729
Actually I dropped that bow idea and wanted to go all out with "horse in a viking mod? NEVER"
After three battles or so, I've got my pointing finger tired from pressing "W". I'm getting some horse asap.
ps. how tall could be "talll building" according to frisian standards X c.? Like big dog? Slightly smaller? I'm sure I've checked every building in wharfs (and few bigger crates) already, no result..

>>187106664
>>187106634
>>187106318
>its fucking nothing
Not exactly true.

>“Today I worked on the design of how army coherence will be affected as an army stays in the field for a long time, and how a player can keep it together longer by arranging its composition and spending influence.”
This is probably a new feature to be implemented into morale system that didn't exist in Warband.

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>>187108723
It would be nice if they would just show us the present equipment loadouts in captain mode. This way we could discern the general equipment loadouts of the factions as they are presently.

>>187108639
>deleted

>>187106248
Oh fuck off, it's basically a harmful bump.

>>187109136
harmless*

>>187108805
sweet baby jesus, the battles and player destroying his enemies if his most favourite manner with his own hands is the most unique and fun part of warband (hopefully also bannerlord which hopefully be relased ealier than never)
There are great games for economy, strategy, town construction and so on, but they are not warband
just my, objectively correct, 3 cents,

>>187107971
>tfw all the empire factions are central

Is there any mod that use With Fire and Swords assets in Warband?

>>187110251
It's one central country splits in 3.

>>187110106
"Favourite part" doesn't mean that it's ok to be as simple as its prequel, M&B is first of all a sandbox, more well made parts and options can only makes it much better.
>just my, objectively correct, 3 cents
Nah, your 3 cents are defective and faggy.

does anons upstab mod work for perisno 0.8.14?

>>187110898
They're different factions, though. I fully expect them to be warring among themselves like any other factions, thus my lamentation. Put more broadly:
>tfw no geographic defenses
Fucking Rhodok shits.

>>187110898

>claiming that bashing skulls with an axe is minor addition to whatever he wanna there
>because it's faggy...

or mayby you just got bored/never really liked the game and instead to play something else you want it to be different for some weird reason
Anyway I know great, althought old, mod for warband, that you should dig, check "Sim City 3000" :^)

>>187108805
They haven't showed that aspect of the game in details yet

>>187108824
Yeah I noticed that too but there we have no confirmation it will be in the game in the end

this game is never coming out
developers wont even give a projected release date or beta dates or even closed alpha information

why?
because it's never coming out. it'll get scrapped like that one xbox game, scalebound

>>187112507
We have no confirmation that the game will be released in the first place, so why not dream?

>>187112323
This can only mean bad things.

>>187112606
Yeah its an interesting idea.
And that's all we can say

>>187112037
>claiming that bashing skulls with an axe is minor addition to whatever he wanna there
Putting words inside someone's else mouth isn't nice, and it reeks of desperation, you know.
>because it's faggy...
Oh, wow.
>or mayby you just got bored/never really liked the game
Yeah, I'm not a true fanboy such as yourself that wants everything as simple or badly made as it was for not a single valid reason, my bad.
>check "Sim City 3000" :^)
No, thanks mr. shitposter, but I'll wait for a game with the ideas of its predecessor finally decently executed.

>>187113035
ignore the pooling

>>187104220
MP looks like a lot of fun.
Like NW's commander battles, except not shit.

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>play VC for the first time after playing 1k hours of everything else
>it's fucking great

>>187113035

I just appareantly dig eintirely different side of the game. so instead of fixing some stuff that is irrelevant for me, I'd like them to fix that one which I like (and there sure is lot to fix about bashing skulls with an axe in m&b too). So do you btw. Nothing really new here.I'm not suprised that someone likes some complex shit that sweats your brain, not fingers and eyeballs, I'm suprised that someone is looking for that in m&b series since these parts were pretty fuckin basic and bad, even for my limited knowledge about them.
And since Talewords has issues with relase at all, it's sure their resources are limited, so better management means worse skullbashing.
Pretty obvious I'd post my meaningless and not changing shit opinion against your meaningless and not changing shit opinion.

Anyone know how to enable the Adult Content for Dickplomacy. I tried googling the answer and looking at the archives but the closest answer i got was.
>module folder, diplomacy install, content options, do the enable adult content stuff
ingame go to camp menu and enable what you want.
I installed diplomacy but there is no content options folder

>>187115171
>there is no content options folder
There is.

>>187115171
did you try reading the fucking readme

>>187115319
For Dickplomacy there is but not for Diplomacy

>>187115547
yes i did
>paste this to diplomacy module folder
Which i cannot find

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>>187115171
first this, then "Camp menu"->""Game content (or something like that, iirc it's not "diplomacy mod content"-> clict top option until it's "consensulal (and non consensual" sex options enabled"
to see it in details, copy shit from "galous faces and naked body" to mod folder.
Details aren't that hot 2bh, pic related. Every model w/o armor is naked after that, and to make it more clear all males have quite big erection.
50% wear no armor
when you're sneaking into fief to see a lady, you wear no armor
peasants whom you train wear no armor
etc

>Armor penalty
Is that really realistic?

>>187093997
kek, why don't they make an MMO too then? Mount and Blade: Online for this type of fanbase. Inb4 cRPG.

>>187115860
Right, was confused since he talked about installing dickplomacy in his first line and then didn't notice that he started talking about diplomacy out of no where.

>>187115171
If you download the files from the link in the op you can find dickplomacy with content folders and all, no idea why you keep talking about diplomacy.

>>187116213
50% of looters
also, 50% of times when you click "looter" unit at party screen, it wears no armor

>>187103654
500vs500 battles max
300vs300 runs at 15fps on a shitty laptop cpu

>>>187115171
shieet, I was sure it's censored pic
I guess I've just earnead another ban for dickplo
at least this >>187113157
faggot is gonna be happy

>>187107971
too bad that they made the cities a lot larger in relation to the map, so in essence the map is smaller than the one in warband

>>187116709
Isn't that just how it looks when you zoom out.

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can't wait to TURK the empire in bannerlord

>>187115547
>>187116394
oh my god im retarded all i had to do was paste the Menus.txt. The instructions kept saying to paste the folder into the "diplomacy module" and i thought i had to get the diplomacy mod. ima try it out now.
>>187116648
I appreciate you anons for educating a retard

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>people actually have problems with copypasting and reading a readme for instructions

>>187117292
To be fair that read me could be written better.

So who are the rhodoks of bannerlord, and no I don't mean le faction becomes the rhodoks 400 years later I mean whose soil am i going to spend thousands of hours protecting

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>>187116847
look at how massive the player on the map is compared to a river and a village

>>187116223
>Armor penalty
>Is that really realistic?
Not unless it's some poorly made armor or the suit is made for a man twice your size (or half your size).

Chainmail and scale armors are especially suited to this, because if your shirt is too big or too small, you can just add more links or scales to fit or remove them. It's time
consuming, but easily done

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>>187116223
No. Despite that it is the "realistic" mods that insist on draconic armor penalties. "Realistic" as for as Warband mods has become code the go-to rationale for dumb design decisions that have no rational basis.

>>187106318
>What I like most is seeing how, as the campaign progresses, you as a player write your own story.

This is both the strongest and weakest point of mb. On one hand, you're able to unleash your creativity and roleplay desires, which are what keep the game alive. The problem is that once the self immersion is gone, it's a somewhat shallow game. Then again warband is pretty fucking old, I just hope bannerlord just give us more tools to keep the fun going on for longer, wb survived on mods.


>I am also looking forward to finishing the game and seeing what kinds of mods will come out.

heh.

>>187117816
But the rivers and trees look so much nicer. But now that you mention it thats all i can focus on.

>>187118231
This is pretty cool. Surprised it looks nice considering how Warband map has terrain that is empathetic to the original faction holders.

>>187103918
Like what?

What I've seen so far:
- Upstab with spears (thank god finally)
- Directional shield blocking
- Multi-hit swings
- Pseudo-combos where hits chain together
- Shield bash

We know kicks are back and I assume feints and chamber blocks (but everyone I've seen play so far is so shit they can't do either).

I'm still waiting on confirmation of crouching (though there was one early video it was possibly in) and bracing for spears / pikes etc. Also I've seen what looks suspiciously like a sprint (at least on horseback) a couple of times.

Did I miss anything?

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>>187118552
another picture, showing sargoth

>>187118657
it beautiful

>>187118231
Nice looking castle town
>>187118231
Fetch quests are gonna be a real bitch

>>187118657
what kind of monster would support Vlandia after seeing this massive regression

>>187118327
THEY BETTER GIVE US FUCKING NAVAL COMBAT THIS TIME.

>>187118901
>He's not Vlandian through and through
LMAO
M
A
O

>>187118946
i mean they did for viking conquest. But developers tend to go two steps foward then two steps back where expansions are considered.

>>187118879
>Fetch quests are gonna be a real bitch
the in-game wiki does 90% of the work for you by auto-locating the locations for you though

What is really a concern is KINGDOM MANAGEMENT. I'm surprised that Bannerlord has not released any information on king play.

>>187118901
>regression
>empty playdough looking map of nothingness vs. map with enough space to move about well enough but not endless tracks of wasteland where it's a pain in the ass to find parties

>>187118946
Calradia's geography makes naval combat superfluous. It may be nice for future mods but thats basically it.

>>187119065
I was under the impression that was the Brytenwalda devs

>>187119067
Thinking about the real questions. Hopefully it'll be a mark improvement.

>>187119227
>I was under the impression that was the Brytenwalda devs
It was

>>187118879
>Fetch quests are gonna be a real bitch
they won't, the player character is fucking massive too so you'll be able to cross the entire map diagonally in 5 or 6 days

>>187119067
They're probably still working on king stuff, so we won't hear about it until they (maybe) finish those features.

>>187119301
The map icon size doesn't factor into the travel speed. Those are two completely independent variables. If you can cross the map in 5-6 days it's because they set the speed to be like that, irrespective of how large things are.

Are there no companions in the ad 1257 mod?

>>187120091
hire mercenary companions, nerd.

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so how's that /family/ going

will your children honor your wishes and play a bannerlord campaign the way you would have wanted to play it?

>>187120240
I've been visiting taverns and I haven't found anything.

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>>187120091
You can hire mercenary companions from the get-go. Each major culture; except Mongolian I believe, has 3 region specific companions that only vassals or kings have access to.

As an example there are 3 Roman Catholic companions and 3 Islamic companions. By jumping around the different factions you can try to get them all as early as possible.

>>187116223
>Is that really realistic?
Depending on the type of armor, you could have trouble shooting a bow.
If the armor is heavy you'll tire more quickly

>start up new game
>swadia loses praven to nords
>swadia takes yalen
>sarranids take veluca

crazy desu

>>187120475
I can't really think of any armors that would give you much trouble with bows other than fantasy armor with all kinds of weird protrusions and tournament armors. As long as the helmet doesn't impair your vision too much you should be good. Purely out of curiosity; do you have an example of one that might be challenge to shoot with?

>every single army has 150+, often 200+ units in it
>every single lord has 1500+ renown
>factions are completely imbalanced, starting a game with a fresh character is nothing but an exercise in patience
>buying the gear that'd put you on the same level as the equivalent of t3 costs 15,000+ gold
Did the developers of Warsword Conquest even play their mod before they released it?

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>>187101907
Give it up. 99% of MB fanbase will defend to the death those awkward twisting around; all those mouse-dragging tricks such as the spear thrusts, speed-increasing 2h slashes, etc. The feints are alright at first (all those arm feints are cool), but then someone found out that you can trick the opponent by exploiting the differences between the directional-based mechanics and the plain common sense that you can see with the 3D model animation (aka in front of your monitor). Something like parrying an attack that looks like it's swung from the left but then turns out it's a right attack because of some mouse tricks and strafing. Because of this, duels often become battles of sidestepping and strafing, totally the opposite of the development of historical fencing (where you mostly go forward or backward).

Furthermore, there is also no limitation to blocking, even with weapons. Arming swords, maces, and axes are not meant for parrying, let alone static blocking stances. Let alone blocking a sledgehammer. They were always wielded together with shields.

I still remember someone shitting up the idea of making upstab native because it will make spears 'unbalanced' with its already well-known thrust 'techniques' in MP. This is the majority of the MB players. The type of people who cares nothing about innovation or tackling the fundamental problems of directional-based combat mechanics and free mouse look. They only care about this gamey aspect "medieval-combat-inspired" autism, so that they can eat both cakes ("gameplay/competition" and "roleplaying") within their comfort zone. Like how Battlefield 1 is just "inspired" by WW1 warfare, and nothing more than that. I bet it would make a good tagline for Bannerlord.

I'm trying to find a place to talk to dudes about kenshi.
Do you guys know and play kenshi? It seems like the kind of thing mount&blade guys would have.

>>187118657
>>187118231

Why did the mountains shift so much over 200 years? They must've had some mighty strong earthquakes.

>>187121353
allah willed it

>>187120413
They're not in taverns.

>>187120437
I got it, thanks. Weird system. Do you play with lance recruitment?

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>>187121170
>do you have an example of one that might be challenge to shoot with?
Segmentata armor.
This one.
I don't know if mail+ a gambeson under it would be challenging to shoot a bow

>>187121353
it really makes you think doesnt it anon

>Turn on non consensual in dickplomacy + ctt
>This breaks the CTT part

THIS RETARD NEEDS HELP

>>187121240
At least the abuse of feinting is gone

>>187121782
Ah, I forgot about those.Though by the time such armor is available you probably wouldn't want to shoot a bow anyways.
Mail+gambeson is completely fine. I know from personal experience.

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>>187121773
Yes. It grew on me after a while. Its a very functional system and not using it will remove part of the novelty that is 1257AD.

Just be wary that recruited mercenaries and rescued prisoners will not be maintained if dismissed. If you are transitioning from Mercenary -> Vassal/King the initial transition may be bumpy as there is no way to garrison your mercenary and prisoner troops.

>>187121240
Despite the image and ranty nature of the post this was a pretty good read.

>I still remember someone shitting up the idea of making upstab native because it will make spears 'unbalanced' with its already well-known thrust 'techniques' in MP.
God I remember that.

>>187122367
>Mail+gambeson is completely fine
Hm, good to know.
By the time those armors were used crossbows were still largely in use though.
Arquebusier would use rarely more than a breastplate anyway, to allow for movment

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>>187121170
I don't think you can shoot arrows when wearing a pair of mail/plate mittens. The pauldron design on this >>187121782 one also restricts your arm movement.

Something like this maybe. Mail brigandines, coat of plates, or even breastplates on mail.

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>>187123307
But then again, there's this...

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>>187120475
>If the armor is heavy you'll tire more quickly
It shouldn't surprise me that the very type of people who think walking backwards without tripping is difficult would think that ~40lbs of well distributed weight is significantly encumbering.

Armor could definitely be a negative for specific weapon techniques; namely sword styles that required both wrists to be held together and would be incompatible with gauntlets, but that is very different than a professional warrior getting winded with minimal exertion.

And fuck penalizing armor universally simply because of narrow grip swords. Isn't it bad enough that armor is made less effective so that sword users can damage them with swings.

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>>187123612
...and this. So, I don't know. Maybe they could shoot with full plate armor. Maybe these latter two were lazily painted.

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>>187123612
jesus

>>187123307
You obviously need freedom of movement for the fingers of your drawing hand, and as can be seen in >>187123612 they're wearing armor on one hand only. I don't think there's many pauldron designs that restrict arm movement too much before we start entering the gunpowder era.

>>187119227
>Calradia's geography makes naval combat superfluous. It may be nice for future mods but thats basically it.
B-but what about river battles. Muh not-Yellow Calradia river.

>>187123646
I don't know if the weight of the armor impacts o the stamina in VC. If it doesn't it would be the one thing they could have done right but fucked up.
Anyway, its still a game and making a simulation of the weariness of a fighter depending on his actions and the weight of his armor is neither fun nor would really be impactful on gameplay unless it goes on for hours

>>187122593
How do I dismiss them anyway, is it the "disband lance troops" option at the camp menu?

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>>187103884

>Just don't bother with higher difficulty for Xp, or only do so if you're having a cakewalk.

I totally missed this sentence, do you mean top or bottom one?
I can drop whatever from the top, but from the bottom I'll just change that 750 (which looks like fukin 150) to 150, rest must stay as it is, these are the rulesof my autism

>>187124303
You can disband them in the party screen like in any other game of warband.

>>187124303
Its been quite a while so I can't remember. I think that "disband lance troops" only applies to lance troops - meaning that Mercenaries and Prisoners may not be disbanded with that option. If so you will probably have to just dismiss them in a conventional manner.

If my memory is correct note that this is a GOOD thing though, as disbanded Mercenary or Prisoners cannot be re-recruited via the Lance system anyways.

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Reminder an anon posted a link for Napoleonic Wars with L'aigle's uniforms and weapons
https://mega.nz/#!58lHAQ6B!7J5KCcg3uxPukZ5f00FSdKFxe689FoNSu30Lwl2cpYo

>>187125091
hello sir i'm going to need you to delete this

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>>187124552
I mean pic related

>>187125175
it's forever on the internet

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>>187125212
These are the rest of my settings

>>187121240
but whats the alternative to direction-based combat? theres mordhau combat, but thats pretty complex and basically the first of its kind if im not mistaken, on the other end we have skyrim combat, which is what makes that game unplayable no matter how many mods you dump into it

>>187121240
This holy shit. You don't know how bad it is until you've read thethe forums. PvP fucks want the game dumbed down to shit and filled with dumb shit like jump attacks because of 'muh competitive edge, fuck the immersive simulation and single player aspect'

>>187125493
Blood loss seems fine on paper, but is shit in practice. You can and will bleed out despite being kitted in high tier armor after you're cut by a rusty kitchen knife at times. And since this affects your troops as well, fighting battles where you're outnumbered and have to take on numerous waves will see your elite troops dwindle steadily.

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>>187125795
>...with dumb shit like jump attacks... , fuck the immersive simulation and single player aspect"
There is nothing wrong with jump attacks. "Muh realism!" assholes are just as bad if not worse.

>>187125802
>You can and will bleed out despite being kitted in high tier armor after you're cut by a rusty kitchen knife at times
Never happened to me.
All the times it happened it was an axe to the head that started it. Never got it from arrows strangely.
Really its not that bad since it actually has a small chance to trigger

>>187125795
>PvP fucks want the game dumbed down
are you retarded? that's the exact opposite of reality

>>187125212
>>187125493
k, thanks, I'm just gonna copy them for now and see what's up

I've literally never heard of PvP warband and neither have 99% of people who play this game so why the fuck should anybody care what these greasy skids say

>>187123612
>>187123307
The real reason is plate is fucking expensive so you want to save it up for infantry. Archers and crossbowmen are not supposed to get hit.

>>187125795
>...fuck the immersive simulation and single player aspect"
You can just not do jump attacks. Why do you care how people play the single player mode? You are literally upset that people are playing the single player in ways that you dislike.

>finally start my own faction in dickplo
>realize too late that you can't get brownie points from lords by freeing their imprisoned relatives because it'll automatically declare war against the other faction.

Well shit. Guess I gotta find another way to grind honor now.

Dickplomacy with fixes and CTT has been fixed to have adult content by default, redownload for that. Don't touch menus.txt. You guys could have actually gotten it working by comparing the menus.txt files in the original dickplomacy and seeing it's one tiny little change of a 0 to a 1 in one spot and applying that instead of trying to overwrite the whole file with one that obviously isn't CTT enabled.

>>187125493
>>187125212

the issue is that I have only this top shit both in camp menu and at all. just these boxes to make gore, stamina etc on/off.. I could get different version of the game tho

>>187121170
a kettle helm or similar may get in the way of pulling the string back
>bannerlord-clipping.jpg

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>jump attacks
>SP vs MP fags
Here we go again. Never change, /mbg/.
Inb4
>dual-wielding

>>187126250
If we cared about what the PvP fags on the forum had to say we would get warband with shinier graphics, same combat, same AI. leaving them free to just spam their feint, spin and jumps, thinking they are some kind of e-sport figure.
Thank fuck that some of us actually want some fixes and the overall ebtterment of the game

Any way to make time pass by faster in ad 1257? Like maybe mess with some file or something.

Time seems to go particularly slow when you are waiting at a keep compared to how fast it goes in vanilla or other mods.

>>187127806
>caring about jump attacks
>implying that PvP players care about AI
>"...thinking they are some kind of e-sport figure"
This isn't a SP vs MP thing. This is an asshole who hates it when people play the single player in ways that he dislikes.

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>the fucking forum
I got files full of 'em

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>>187127691
So long as the sword; and it's always a sword for some unknown reason, is essentially a bad shield I for one welcome dual wielding.

>>187127031
ok, I;ve found another ver. I'll check it first

>>187127691
why don't you hate what others like?
the hell is wrong with you?

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>>187126948
I tested it to make sure it works too, got my first time experiencing this. W-why are there horse and pig noises?

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So these are "le ebin vikings" slavanon warned us so much about

but you can already do jumping attacks in warband?

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Is it forum time ?

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>>187129718

>>187129925
this is brilliantly retarded

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>>187129925

>>187132004
>i am not a taleworlds employee opinions stated on this account do not represent the views of Taleworlds
Was this really needed? like to lawyers and shit really go onto a forum, pullup a shitpost and use it as the basis of some smear campaign?

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Get fucking rekt, fags.
Time for you to learn how to play the game like a big boy.

Why are all the vanilla factions so shit? PoP has 10x better factions but the minifaction and elf bullshit make it unplayable

>>187132932
>Faggots crying because their exploits are being patched out.
Just like clockwork. Reminds me of Chivalry.

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>>187133776
I made this
Also : Vlandian MP troops and gameplay
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAuxd9yKMvc
Looks like they get crossbowmen in MP

>>187134130
Both Swadians and Rhodok use crossbowmen so it wouldn't be a surprise if Vladia maintained that as a cultural thing.

I'm a bit surprised that I am not seeing any couching here. Figured that Vladia would be unique in their lance technique for the time period.

>2:40
As Vladia has Zweihandlers there is now zero excuse for later era Polearms to make an appearance. So far it looks like only the Khuzait has sexy polearms (I am differentiating spears from polearms here)

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>playing Dickplomacy
>instead of meeting with the merchant of praven, get stuck here
Did I install the mod wrong?

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>>187135334
Actually on closer inspection I don't see a lower guard - Dunno what kind of sword it is supposed to be but those protrusions along the base of the blade made me think Zweihänder originally.

>>187135334
Thats a pretty violent anachronism, almost 600 years.
I mean Warband had zweihanders but they weren't used by troops

>>187135836
I thought I couldn't see them because of shadows but it seems you're right. nvm >>187135953 then

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peasants- don't bully them

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Anyways on closer inspection it is clearly a longsword. The guard just threw me off - Looks pretty dinky as an actual guard.

And when it comes to the stats of the weapon... What the fuck Talesworld. How does the Glaive even have less damage considering the superior leverage the shaft offers?

i have a small dick

>>187138010
Ignore this post. Was banned for like 2 weeks on some other forum for no fucking reason.
Just did this to check if it was off

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OwO whats this

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>>187137742
For comparison with what I am guessing is the Warband equivalent.

>Swing Speed: 67 to 88
>Swing Damage: 101 to 138
>Thrust Damage: 33 to 77

Even the fucking handling attribute is weaker. What the shit. 67 speed? Really? Thats a lot of negatives for an 18 reach advantage.

>>187137742
>handling stat
I wonder what it is

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Anyone familiar with this error message in TLD? Google isn't helping too much, and I'm playing with the latest nightly patch. The game removes my character form the party on day 103, and I'm left unable to do anything. What gives?

>>187138885
it could be like the speed of feinting or recovering from knockback or something. kinda makes sense it could be different from attack speed, but who knows

>>187133298
The mini factions are great for starting your own kingdom though. You can capture their one castle, then never have to worry about retaliation because they're all fucking dead. Then just buy your way into the other king's hearts, and you're quickly a stable monarchy of your own design.

>>187139746
Have I missed a huge update? Since when do minor factions have castles? Other than the Snake Cult Stronghold and knife ear castle, neither of which you can have as part of your faction.

>>187139746
I thought PoP mini-factions were basically uber bandits?

>>187133298
The Elves are annoying from a Gary Stu PoV but they actually make the mod easier once you graduate from being retarded enough to constantly pick fights with them.

>>187140306
This

>Befriend Noldor
>Start kingdom in Laria
>Watch armies coming to take it back run away from the huge elf army that's just hanging around

ezpz

>>187140306
>>187140258
Oh shit, my bad, I got PoP confused with Perisno again. Yeah PoP's minifactions are kind of lame once you figure them out. They don't really add much depth to the game.

Will they add stamina in bannerlord

>>187140791
no

Anyone else sort of afraid for the modding scene with Bannerlord? I'm retarded so please correct me, but it seems that higher quality textures take more time to make and the new features will be harder to tweak as an unprofessional modder. Seemed like what made M&B:W modding so huge was that the game is so simple at its core. But I'm worrying for nothing anyway, because it's never gonna get released.

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>>187140754
PoP is pretty tame by today's standards as it's foundations fundamentally haven't changed since original M&B.

Well at least that has been my experience following it since original M&B. I haven't actually played 3.8 but aside from the D'Shar being revamped (finally, they were always pretty lame IMO) I don't see much reason to go back. The small scale of the map especially kind of makes the kingdom play a bit tame to me.

>>187140952
Why not I thought they were trying to make bannerlord more realistic

>>187141138
never given two shits about what artists need to go through (nevertheless it'll be the same process made easier with PBR so stop worrying)
the important mods are the gameplay changing ones

>>187141750
says who

>>187141138
>and the new features will be harder to tweak as an unprofessional modder

Couldn't be more fucking wrong. Warband has an atrocious scripting language that's the biggest pain in the ass to work with, in Bannerlord it's being replaced with a real programming language that will be infinitely easier to work with.

Textures I don't fucking know, I don't care too much either. You think every single person on the internet will refuse to upload stuff unless it's of the highest quality? Shit will get made and I'm not concerned about muh grafix.

>>187141509
The small map makes it enjoyable for me as you never have to go on treks across half the map to find parties, there's always something going on yet it still isnt cluttered imo so it's a perfect mix. Everything but the map on the otherhand....

>>187141949
>atrocious scripting language that's the biggest pain in the ass to work with, in Bannerlord it's being replaced with a real programming language
they can just as easily make it function exactly the same

>>187139281
bumping this issue. Just posted it on the dev's trello as well

>>187141138
Depends on the mod and the infrastructure for installing/creating them.

>>187142176
wasn't this mod made in like 1852? why would the dev care at this point

>>187142226
It's true it's super old, but it actually gets really frequent updates (last was 8/22), and the trello for the devs is super active. I'm baffled, but grateful.

>>187142059
Explain what the hell you mean by that.

anyone wanna kill some zulu's?

>>187142738
always

>>187142781
i mean like does anyone wanna play azw nigga

>>187123646
I like the penalty you get because it makes light armor an actual option.

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>>187142993
i know

>>187142490
there is currently an extremely tiny amount of Python functionality included in the Warband module system that you'd be hard pressed to even call it Python--only the most rudimentary of scripts are possible
with C#, they can also, for example, not include access to a simple 'for' loop or any other basic component found in the library of a language
languages don't make any difference at this level of modification; it's all in how the developer designs the API that we access

>>187143093
come on buddy i got a craving

>>187143089
Fighting sub-optimally is always an option. Do you want all armor to be equally expensive as well? If not why should the armor be equally good?

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>>187128601
just in case anyone wanna steal that, too
choose ~2,6gb skidrow relase from piratebay, not ~2,3gb (also skidrow)

>>187134130
At 3:08, that heavy cav charge denial is crisp

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i'm actually having a blast playing viking cuckquest campaign
fuck you newfag memers

>>187128031
I mean, do people not understand basic physics? Has that guy never hit anything with a stick or a bat? If you want cleave, just say you want cleave, it's cool and has been a thing in games for years, but don't act like it's historically accurate and that pikemen were impaling 3 knaves at a time. You're not going to cut through a person and hit another IRL. Bad arguments are bad.

>>187145058
Yeah, someone in a previous thread was concerned mounted troops would be OP but it looks like anti-cavalry tactics are definitely there.

>>187138885
point of balance probably
>>187137742
could be refined or something but yeah that's pretty bullshit

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>>187145216
Well, it wouldn't be static either. A dead man doesn't immediately lose all mass for example and would cause some disruption to others nearby. We are oscillating between two extremes but in the end the latter is more fun.

I just hope that cleave is locked behind some heroic attribute/skill (or their equivalent) requirements. A reward for dedicating themselves to Strength rather than something that every pleb can do. It would be pretty strange if every random soldier had cleave mechanics.

>>187135953
warband doesn't have zweihanders of the 16thc style
the latest 2h sword is a 14/15thc style

>>187143621
>>187143089
idk what the option actually affects, but a defined AGI debuff i wouldnt mind. but the way VC vaguely says "stats are debuffed with heavy armor" pisses me off. if idk the trade-offs, how am i supposed to make a decision on whether theyre worth it?

>>187146428
Battles in Mountain Blade are unrealistic as hell anyways. I see no reason to not include cleave because the combat is a huge abstraction as it is.

I mean, even chainmail was almost impenetrable unless you used something like a rondel dagger which was slim enough to slip through the links.

>>187117816
>>187118657
I mean, the player isn't riding a horse as big as a village either. It's a map screen where everything you're looking at is just a reference point of where the actual thing is supposed to be. How big the representative icon is has no bearing on how big the actual thing is.

When's the next event so we can get actual news

>>187146754
The debuff also affects power draw and power strike if I am not mistaken. I took the best armor regardless, you can be sanic with light armor and stab people in the back but one javelin and you're dead.

>>187145058
>press F to spawn as spectated agent
so is that like in certain mods where you can watch the battle continuing after you die? and then does he take control of another troop after that? i cant really tell what happens, and if thats just the way it is so that he can continue after he dies for the showcase

>>187146428
i think cleave should just be something like couched lance damage; locked behind a specific type of weapon, i.e. a cleaver. the guys a fucking idiot for including spears in that argument unless you're only skimming one of them

>>187121170
gauntlets and helmets can impair usability of ranged weapons
you could also be exhausted faster while using those ranged weapons if you're in armor
>>187124237
i'm pretty sure weight does, but armor penalties affect your athletics anyway which is what stamina is measured off of
>nor would really be impactful on gameplay
it is in VC
>>187146754
stats aren't debuffed in VC, skills are
you can see them in red in the character sheet
you can't see by how much off of that which is dumb but a helmet+body+shield adds up to -5 athletics and - less for the power skills
some of the armor pieces don't affect some power skills, iirc shields don't affect PD

>>187147009
yeah im sure its worth it in the end. but knopwing the effects is always better. especially since afaik, theres an arbitrary weight where it takes effect, or it could be slight effects even at lighter armors

>>187146873
>even chainmail was almost impenetrable
no it isn't, it's the padding that really reinforces it
>>187147256
it should be a skill like any of the power skills

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>>187147256
Well, a spear could feasibly go through a body. The problem with that type of penetration from a realism POV is that type of penetration would likely make the spear unusable afterwards due to getting stuck. I remember reading some speculation that part of the logic for spearheads such as the attached was to actually help prevent excessive penetration.

>>187147054
The spectate thing after you've been knocked out is a feature that's in Single player as well (with a button to speed up the game it looks like) but taking control of one of your lackeys seems to be MP only.

>>187147493
>it should be a skill like any of the power skills
but why? i concede if they include it in powerstrike, maybe like 1 extra enemy per 2 powerstrike skill, that would work, but cleavers would be an awesome weapon if it were how i suggested. then of course the balance would be thats its only cutting damage which could be nerfed or the value could be changed

>>187147798
because it's evidently a powerful effect, and having it have to be invested in in order to get the full effect is better, similar to how HA needs so many skills to be fully effective

cleave should just be a thing that can happen, like if you graze your first target and your swing has enough momentum to damage the next

that's what i thought it was going to be

>>187147914
That's what it is but retards want it to be dynasty warrior tier

>>187147914
it's anime garbage tier and i'm hoping it gets reduced as much as possible

>>187147575
well, yeah thats what i mean. if youre gonna continue using it, hopefully itll only penetrate to the point you hit a vital organ/artery and it doesnt get stuck

>>187147849
thats a good point. you could also have half damage per enemy hit, as in the 2nd takes half and third takes 1/4, 4th being unlikely anyway but barely having an effect if its possible

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>>187148103
Cleave is already in Warband, it is just exclusive to horse + rider at the moment.

>>187148012
What are you talking about? No one is asking for it to be stronger than what has been illustrated in the Bannerlord videos.

>>187147493
>no it isn't, it's the padding that really reinforces it
But it is, anon. A chainmail won't stop much of the force coming from a hammer or mace, though and that's exactly what they were used for. Still unlikely that you'd kill someone with a single hit, though, unless you manage to hit the head.

That one mass grave they found had people in it who almost exclusively died from hits to the head. http://www.economist.com/node/17722650

so who is insider anon? it might compromise him if he told us his position, but like do we have a direct line of contact in regards to ideas for balance/gameplay?

>>187148324
i would imagine damage falloff is already present, or at least any cleave damage itself is reduced as most games do that
though from the footage it's extremely hard to tell due to the completely changed numbers (everyone has 100 hp base, so damage revolves around that)
so because of that it's a lot harder to judge if something is OP or if the player is using a cheat character or something

>>187148494
>towton
that's literally my point
if you're talking about mail there's a lot of different periods, the effectiveness of mail in the dark ages isn't going to be the same as the 15thc due to the lack of gambesons in that period or lower quality material

>>187148563
im pretty sure hes just an anon that got to play the game at gamescom nigga

>>187148708
Of course there are different periods for armor but the same goes for weapons. I'd say weapons in the dark ages weren't as advanced as weapons in the later periods of the middle ages but you won't cut or break decently made chainmail with a sword or spear. What you can do, however is exhaust or daze your opponent with strikes, get him off balance, throw him to the gound and then stab him in the face.

That being said, chainmail in the dark ages was considered heavy armor I'm pretty sure and only rich folks could afford one as well as the concept of a standing army wasn't really known to the people back then, which means your average soldier had piss poor gear to begin with.

>>187132932
>>187133776
>>187134130
>t. shitters

>>187135334
>Both Swadians and Rhodok use crossbowmen so it wouldn't be a surprise if Vladia maintained that as a cultural thing.
uh you do know that it goes Vladia -> Swadia & Rhodoks
right?

>>187149750
>exhaust or daze your opponent with strikes, get him off balance, throw him to the gound and then stab him in the face.
so like morrowind basically in terms of stamina? because people hate that shit, especially these days

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I'm posting Cao Cao in honour of the poster who was posting in honour of the original Cao Cao poster until we get a good Romance of the three kingdoms mod.

>>187149968
maybe you'll have to actually get good at the game in bannerlord instead of abusing exploits feints

>>187149968
They do have a point, though. Instead of relying on glitches to make the PvP work the devs should try to get it right in the first place. Only that I do not see it happening in Bannerlord.

Patching out the glitches was what made Dark Souls 3 PvP stale and boring.

>>187149987
Yeah. You do realize that Vladia is an in-development faction where changes can occur at any moment right? I haven't seen any Vladian Morningstars or Glaives after all. Nothing is certain yet.

>>187149968
to be fair, i havnt played multiplayer. but feinting seems like an important dimension. i dont see how simplifying it in this way would make it better

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>>187150105
>this intentional feature of the game is an exploit
this is most excellent bait anon i must admit

>>187150178
>Patching out the glitches was what made Dark Souls 3 PvP stale and boring.
No, what made Dark Souls 3 PvP stale and boring was excessive catering to hosts at the expense of invaders alongside making roll spamming and punishing estus healing much more difficult than before.

>>187150091
i like you, though i have no investment in whether your cause bears fruit

>>187150178
you might have a valid point if feinting was actually a glitch

>>187150201
The devs themselves said that feints in their current forms weren't intended you esport faggot

>>187150438
where?

>>187150438
>esport
oh god it's the asshole that wants to disable single player jumping attacks for immersion

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>feinting attacks is exploiting

>>187149987
also Sword "I'm not like this anymore" Hookers uses x-bows
what's the conclusion? bow and bow only, praise Yargolek, x-bow cykas

>complain about how MP players supposedly want to "dumb down" the combat
>be in favor of removing features that increase the depth of the combat significantly
NEURONS ON OVERDRIVE

>>187150038
More like Exanima, I think. That's a pretty good system to use in a game with a medieval setting and combat.

So how about that Bannerlord huh?

>>187132932
Forum link?

>>187150310
That's what ruined invading, not necessarily the PvP itself. The issue I'm talking about is prevalent in any situation that pits player versus player, it just happens to be more visible in 1on1 situations.

>>187150314
I don't think that spazzy movement was intentional but I could be mistaken. Usually games have you commit to attacks at a certain point but in Warband you have full control over your character at any moment.

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>>187151665
gonna have some 10/10 lewd mods

>>187146428
Is that Lu Bu? He looks like a cunt.

>>187150928
because fighting is for dumb brutes and doesn't add any value to the series, which should be about city management and tactics only (or mostly at worst)

posted one bloke today. I'm not shitting, scroll up, it's there.
personaly I hate how they neglected pokemon training part, it's basically almost none

Music DLCs when.

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jakub doesn't like the we wuz meme hmmm wonder why

>>187152631
He probably cannot understand the meme because of his low IQ

>>187143357
You don't know what you're talking about, they have stated multiple times that they are not replacing Python with C#, they are replacing the actual in-house scripting language we were truly using with C#. That's why it's so much better.

>>187153532
Nothing you said contradicts.

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Jumping attacks are fine as they are.
Feints are not an exploit.
Esports are for fags
Dual wielding is retarded.

>>187153684
>Feints are not an exploit.
They clearly are otherwise the devs wouldn't have removed them :)

>>187153807
? you can obviously feint :P

>>187153671
They can't remember for loops from C# itself m8.

>>187152631
It's a pretty shitty meme.
Specially because they ridicule coolhistorical people's like ancient celts with it. Also it disencourages taking ancient peoples that aren't the meme romans or greeks seriously as a side effect.

>>187153684
dual wielding entirely depends on your choice of arms, when you lived, and where you were fighting. It is not inherently retarded, but it's hardly a battlefield technique.

>>187153940
remove*

Sorry, am dumb phoneposter

I think it can still be moddable to tailor the game to your taste if you are a realsimfag or muh-immersionfag. There's no reason to think otherwise with Bannerlord (or is it?). I really like the (Modded) 1257AD damage values, for example. On paper it sounds daunting and tedious, but fucking hell it just werks, I dunno why.

>>187150038
Morrowind is not skill-based but more RPG dice roll, though? The frustration came from it not being intuitive and immersive I think (for the lack of better terms), because it had 3D models and utilizing the hitbox mechanics in an era where people were already accustomed with (or spoiled by) sophisticated model-based hitbox like headshots and so forth.

I remember disliking it too but for some reason I had no problem with it in Daggerfall, IIRC and if it actually existed in Daggerfall. Strange.

>>187151524
ive never been able to really grasp the concept of exanima

>>187154349
People drunkenly swing at each other, it's not hard to grasp.

>>187154349
It's physics based movement which looks like 2 drunk people trying to awkwardly fuck each other.

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>>187154123
I don't think he's referring to the dice roll combat rather than the stamina system. Where each swing you make or step you take lowers your stamina and if it goes down all the way your skills start sucking along with your chance to hit and attacks cause you to get knocked down on your ass.

>>187153807
then why didnt they remove them in warband like they removed parrying?

>inb4 newfags think im talking about blocking or chambering

>>187154123
>>187155081
i forget exactly how it works, but i remember physical combat itself lowering enemy stamina, which at a negative value would render you paralyzed. im pretty sure this just involved physical stats and not magicka, but i cant remember currently

I just want bannerlord

>>187156371
Physical attacks do not lower enemy stamina unless you're fighting unarmed or you're using damage fatigue spells or poisons. But it sure as hell lowers yours.
Its a pretty shitty mechanic in that game honestly. It just means that traveling is annoying since you'll be out of stamina all the time and you'll need to stop and rest for an hour before every fight to get it back or chug down potions if you're in trouble.

Hand-To-Hand sounds fun at first, but then you find out that you have no way of directly damaging anything before they're completely drained out of stamina. So every fight just turns into spamming power attacks at a single enemy for 5 minutes until they fall down and then curb stomping them with your shitty weak slaps for another five until they die.

>>187152112
Fuck off m8, I'm not that guy and I do think combat is the core of m&b but even still I'd like to see more developed features for kingdom management and many other things that aren't combat.

>>187157261
I'm not a native speaker, I guess I took a title to literally.
Seriously speaking I don't mind your ideas and any other as long as it won't mean combat getting neglected and as long as I won't be forced to do them (too much). Just like in warband- you could not give 2 fucks about combat and just command your troops from some hill, I could not give 2 fucks about commands and shit and just jump straight in, waving 2h axe.

>>187157261
>>187158124
>Kang management
Which thread?

>>187158697
this one, somewhere in the middle I think
just regular beef about preferences, not something super-interesting
one of the guys didn't even have decent english
unfortunatelly, that'd be me :^(

>>187149750
>spears don't pierce mail
come on
the "heavy armor" in that period is light, it's a helmet and a hauberk, that's relatively light armor

>>187159805
They really don't, though. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mail_(armour)#Effectiveness

Unless it was cheap chainmail, you couldn't really get through it.

With heavy armor I don't mean the actual weight, but the type of protection it offered. In the dark ages, chainmail would've been considered heavy armor because it offered the most protection, in late medieval times, a chainmail would've been medium or light armor because plate armor was much better at protecting you from blows and injuries.

>>187160716
in that period the melee weapon that's most likely going to penetrate mail is a spear, we can even infer that the armor wasn't that impactful either due to the lack of specialized weapons in that period, not to mention there's records in sagas of nobles being pierced by javelins
>chainmail would've been considered heavy armor because it offered the most protection
in dark age britain it would be, but not globally or even in europe

>>187161043
Nah man, spears didn't pierce mail. Chainmail was specialized military armor so the people that could afford to wear one were very few in number. Most people who fought back then were militias or drafted peasants so the chance to encounter someone wearing mail was pretty low since the bulk of the army was fodder.

With spears you could still poke at the legs and other unprotected parts or hold someone with mail on distance, maybe even push him over with a well placed and powerful thrust.

>>187161962
>Nah man, spears didn't pierce mail
i mean your link disproves that general statement but ok
>so the chance to encounter someone wearing mail was pretty low
it increased over time, especially during the viking invasion period
>With spears you could still poke at the legs and other unprotected parts
that's obvious but it isn't the point
>or hold someone with mail on distance
if people in mail were impervious to spear thrusts they wouldn't be kept at distance from spears

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>>187162270
>When the mail was not riveted, a well-placed thrust from a spear or thin sword could penetrate
>When the mail was not riveted
>not riveted
>Unless it was cheap chainmail, you couldn't really get through it.
Riveted mail was the good one, butted the cheap one, which you can pull apart with your bare hands, by the way.

>if people in mail were impervious to spear thrusts they wouldn't be kept at distance from spears
Jesus man. You could still get a grip on someone if the tip was caught between the the links, which means you could apply force. You know, just because you can't penetrate the armor doesn't mean it just magically bounces off of you and all the force disappears.

>>187163221
you stated a blanket statement of spears not piercing mail
you didn't specify in that post, that's why i said that
>doesn't mean it just magically bounces off of you and all the force disappears.
that's literally what you've been implying

>>187163438
I already excluded cheaply made chainmail at the very beginning, my good anon. Riveted mail was the standard way chainmail was manufactured.
>that's literally what you've been implying
No, I said you couldn't get through it. Which literally means just that, your weapon will hit the armor but not go through it.

>>187163974
then don't make general statements like that if you don't mean them, because you're changing the argument

>>187164158
I didn't change the argument because I established at the very beginning that subgroup X is removed from group A.
So every time I subsequently speak about group A it is evident from my previously stated argument that when I mention group A, subgroup X is absent.

Is this the first conversation you have?

>>187164571
for all i know it could've been somebody else but whatever
should've known by the r*ddit spacing anyway

>>187161043
I think you don't even have to penetrate the mail in order to incapacitate someone in battles. With that much of thrust force you might just break someone's ribs or even damage his internal organs. Gross stuff like that.

>>187164728
especially during that period due to the lack of padding, though a lot of that warfare was actually done at range rather than in melee
it's a pity that media doesn't catch on that for tv shows, seeing two sides throw shit at each other would be pretty great

>>187164715

Not him but Reddit spacing looks like this. Don't use terms you don't understand.

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>>187164715
>fails to grasp the argument
>yeah uh but you've been memespacing!!
whew what a comeback

>>187165117
buttflustered

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>>187165972
>abbreviates per to pr.
what the actual fuck

>>187165972
L O L

still waiting on you spics to translate the independence of chile mod

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>>187166702
delet

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>>187162323
nigga i cant see shit in these

>>187168918
i don't even have the brightness all the way up on my monitor and i can still see them

>>187169080
eh, i guess my backlight is pretty low anyway, and ive got f.lux on, but i literally cant see shit

>this entire thread
I'm going back to sleep. Good night, /mbg/.