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/tesg/ ~ The Elder Scrolls General

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>Is Skyrim Special Edition worth it?
No. SKSE and ENB will likely never be updated to work with it.

>Should I play Skyrim Special Edition or Legendary Edition?
Legendary Edition for the above reasons. Please do not ask again in the thread.

>Mods, modding GUIDES, and FAQs
https://www.tesgeneral.com/
>Found a problem or have a suggestion? Use the "Contact" button at the top right of the site!

>The Booru
http://vgtes.booru.org/
>The Lewd Booru (Use the filter if you find a picture objectionable)
http://booru.Legacywaste.org/

>/tesg/'s characters
https://imgur.com/a/YSUMg
>/tesg/ stories
http://pastebin.com/wt4tJyKW
>/tesg/ tumblrs
https://pastebin.com/BZsXJB9T

>Lore and Lore Accessories
http://www.imperial-library.info/
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Main_Page
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Books

>/tesg/'s sister threads:
>>>/vg/tesog/ - Elder Scrolls Online General
>>>/tg/tgesg/ - /tg/'s Weekend Lore General
>>>/aco/teslg/ - Lewd General

>Thread was created with incorrect OP or a lot earlier than post?
Ignore and report; Wait for a correct thread to be made.

Remember to ignore and report shitposters.


Elder Thread: >>186981179
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We're trying to update the list of mods to avoid. Please post any mod (preferably created/updated in the last one and a half years) which has faulty scripts, causes savebloat, doesn't function properly, has major compatibility issues, is redundant etc.

So far we have:

>Convenient Horses
Dirty scripts, even after being removed.
>Ethereal Elven Overhaul
Major incompability issues with just about everything.
>Athletics Training
Poorly implemented scripts which adds and removes a fork in the inventory every three seconds or so to track itself.
>Dynamic Things
Bloats savefiles and scripts cause instability with any town/city mod.
>Unlocked Grip
Buggy, doesn't function properly.
>Requiem - The Roleplaying Overhaul
Major incompability issues. Patches for it often not up-to-date. Made redundant by other de-leveler, perks and combat overhauls + Morrowloot.
>Mine Foreman sells ore
Not updated for use with USLEEP, still requires the old Unofficial Patches.
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Vampire waifus!
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Is she too plain? I get the feeling she looks way too familiar to be original
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>>187073405
CBBE - Outdated as fuck and UUNP+Bodyslide is the way to go.
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Reposting this, Glenmoril updated:

v0.5.0
Add parts of ep2.
Add new equipments.
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>>187073405

What is EEO incompatible with by chance?
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>>187073449
shes alright. get rid of the belt choker thing tho
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Waifus
Lore
Harmony
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>>187073449
Nah, she looks cute. Face texture looks really two-dimensional though, at least in that shot.
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>>187073542
Anything which alters female textures, skeletons, race-related perks, etc.

There are of course patches, but the majority are outdated.
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>>187073242
>Is Skyrim Special Edition worth it?
>No. SKSE and ENB will likely never be updated to work with it.

>Should I play Skyrim Special Edition or Legendary Edition?
>Legendary Edition for the above reasons. Please do not ask again in the thread.

Horse shit.
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>>187073405
I'd also add that EEO doesn't look as good as regular texture replacers too, so the compatibility issues aren't worth it.
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report and ignore
do
not
respond
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>>187073831
Nothing even happened yet, wtf.
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>>187073815
>Horse shit.
Awww did you buy special needs edition anon?
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Khajit is a Beast, more like Khajit the Deceased
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>>187073405
>Convenient Horses
Shit wish I knew that a few days ago before playing with it for hours. Well hope it doesn't kill my game later.
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>>187074349
Is there a giants set out somewhere to go with that?
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>>187073613
That's probably the lighting, I have a horrible time finding a good ENB for waifuposting
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>>187073815
Good morning Todd. Have a nice sleep?
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>>187074831
I don't think there is sadly
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>>187074859
TKRE. has very good SSS settings
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>>187075746
That's what I'm using right now, tho. Maybe the time / weather wasn't the best.
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>>187075762
something must have gone wrong then. Pic related are TKRE's SubSurfaceScattering settings.

What textures are you using? What lighting mods?
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I love life. If only I could get a source of income so I could continue living like this playing and modding skyrim. Would be nice if Bethesda(please dont steal name symble) hired me to work in unison with them to deliver top quality mods for the community that has done so much of them.
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>>187075762
That is not Tony's Kountervibe Rampage Edit
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>>187075883
Wait, no, I'm an idiot. I switched to Kwanon. I shouldn't mod so late at night, I forget shit.
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>>187076141
That makes sense, that preset is terrible
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>>187076141
>Kwanon
thats the ENB the fair skin author made right?
i did not like it at all, and its clearly made for interior fair skin preview screenshots. It looks bad in exterior and most lighting scenarios.

If your hardware allows it, go for either TKRE or rampage. Those are arguably the best for "waifuposting", especially since you can customize just about everything without any deep knowledge of ENB's required.
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>>187076361
Yeah, I'm gonna switch (back) to TKRE and tweak some color stuff. I like outside shots, and if Kwanon is dog for that, then nothx
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>>187073405
>Holds - The city overhaul
Ugly, redundant, poor compatibility
>Wildcat
Redundant, poor design choices
>Climates of Tamriel
Too many pointless weathers, ugly, not compatible with most ENBs, bakes effects into your saves
>Immersive Citizens
Poor compatibility, redundant, author is an asshat
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How do I add new animations for Sexlab?
This guy's sex animations seems nice http://www.loverslab.com/topic/56630-nibbles-animations-45-25-07-2017/
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>>187077751
>download slal
>download the nibbles' pack
>enable both mods
>generate fnis data
>launch the game and register the animations via slal mcm menu
>??????
>PROFIT
literally everything is explained in the readme files, but apparently too much for your peasant mind to handle
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>>187077983
I like Yuru Yuri
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>>187077370

>Immersive Citizens
>Poor compatibility, redundant, author is an asshat

>redundant
What good alternatives are there? Are you referring to the general AI changes, or things like When Vampires Attack? Considering a switch but like that NPCs have lives and don't do stupid shit.
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>>187078551
>things like When Vampires Attack
yes
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How do you guys deal with having 999 mods that uses hotkeys? a single keyboard isn't enough especially when using loverslab's mods
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>>187078551
>when you realize you have the most unholy of neckseams because of the normal maps
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>>187078724
Stop using Loverslab mods.
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>>187078363
That's the only thing that saves you.
>>187078727
Tweak your maps, nig.
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>>187078756
but that would make skyrim lose 75% of its appeal
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>>187079029
Nah, not really.
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Would anyone happen to still have that text guide on physics mods and the Chinese UUNP and stuff?
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>>187079147
well I do play only skyrim to fap and relieve the need to suplex things or shoot people with elemental magic arrows in the ass
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>>187079678
https://pastebin.com/R99eeeVp
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>>187079940
Thanks. I thought I had bookmarked it but it seems like I didn't.
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>>187077983
Just did this, SLAL said it registered zero animations.
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>>187081186
do you have all the required files for SLAL and have you placed Nibbles pack after SLAL in the mod order?
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Haven't been here in months but is SSE finally dead or did something ever come of it?
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>>187081464
Some people use it, nobody knows why
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>>187081649
I mean Script Extender for it.
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>>187054145
It's a monster from the Witcher 3 that you can find in Darkend
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>>187081374
>do you have all the required files for SLAL
You mean Sexlab Framework and FNIS? Yes.

>>187081374
>have you placed Nibbles pack after SLAL in the mod order?
Yes, and vice versa, both didn't register Nibbles animations.
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>>187081464
I haven't touched it for almost a year now. Without SKSE64, SSE is beyond worthless.
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I can't wait to play Skyrim™ on the Switch®!
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>>187081841
Do you have JContainers installed?
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>>187082259
Just imagine reliving of all your favorite Draugr filled dungeons on the go!
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>>187082354
>JContainers
Nah, what was that for?
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>>187082259
>>187082445
What's on the bottom right that you don't want us to see?
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>>187082642
my cum
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>>187082642
Oh, nevermind. Google just linked me to: http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/81221

Why you're wasting your time badly editing images I'll never know.
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>>187082642
That's the logo of the mod.
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>>187082838
Boy, I had a hard time figuring out which hand is whose. Is this the beginning of a new OTP?
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>>187082572
http://www.loverslab.com/files/file/563-jcontainers/
Install this and put it before SexLab and everything.
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>>187082951
I hope not, lest Haar wants to invoke the wrath of an 8ft tall Nordic amazon and her nerdy tagalong fangirl.
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Should I kill Arcadia?
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i would like to point out that the only regular left is cumtears
everyone else stopped posting
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>>187082951
Fuck off
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>tfw cant decide if I want to play a bow wielding husbando or mage boyfu
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>>187083373
they don't even have threesomes anymore tho
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Can I permanently fuck up my entire mod install if for whatever reason I fail to properly make a bashed patch?

I have minimal issues so far (with 250 mods and 153 plugins) without a bashed patch but I still want to fix them, and.. maybe it's not worth the risk just yet
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>>187082445
>>187082259
this mod has more visual appeal than vanilla
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>>187084028
That's because vanilla Skyrim has no visual appeal to begin with.
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>>187083638
Ava got banned, armorfu still posts, Heiko and honey lurks. Everyone else is either sleep or at work. Not everyone can be neets
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>>187084161
>Ava got banned
Was it because of that unfunny meme pic with the >le angry anime eyebrows xD?
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>>187083480
>100 Alchemy, traveled all over Tamriel
>walk into this bitch her shop
>ask politely if I can make use of her alchemy lab
>"LMAO YOU DO KNOW HOW TO USE IT RIGHT?"
>"CLEAN UP AFTER YOU'RE DONE!"
>greatcustomerservice.mkv
>ask her a normal question, how she ended up in Skyrim
>"IS IT BECAUSE I IZ IMPERIAL!?"
>"I LIVE LONGER HERE THAN ALL NORDS WE WUZE SKYRIM N SHEIT"

I make sure to kill her on every playthrough.
As with all the other non-Nord people I encounter.
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>>187084161
like perma'd or 3day'd
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>>187084709
perma
posted CP
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>calypso's toys can't be downloaded without the retarded worldspace editing shop crammed into it
goddamnit
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>>187084335
Nope a barely nsfw image

>>187084709
I think he said 3 day, I donno
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>>187084380
>"Do I detect a case of Syphilis on you?"
>"Maybe a hardy Nord like you doesn't need a cure-all, huh? What about a Dick-Enlargement Potion?"
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>>187085007
too bad he doesn't live in germany, then he could just wait for the router to reset automatically and claim he's not (((technically))) ban evading
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>>187085205
what do you mean
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>>187084380
>arrive to her shop
>she immediately hits me with one of the questions about if my character has a case of whatevertheheckeritis
She's super annoying but I have to buy her potions anyways.
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>>187083940
H-help
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>>187085547
post her background story
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>>187085205
Stop being antisemitic, Clones. /tesg/ does not tolerate bigots.
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>tfw no cloneskin
;_;
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>>187086026
Completely overrated anyway.
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report

and

ignore
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>book of uunp hdt bodyslides
>armor chestplates jiggle like they were painted on

Not even just HDT fur skirt or anything, just the tits swinging.
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>>187085638
I have something going on but I constantly keep getting dragged away into playing the game and not finishing the background story. Though, I'm waiting for the right time since I want to improve and then write up her story. Something interesting for the reader and not just plain and boring sentences put together.

>>187086026
Just contact Clones. I'm sure you'll get a link.
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>>187086361

Jsut go through and only use HDT meshes on armors it would make sense for

That's what I did
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>>187085547
>relying on off-the-shelf mountainflower tea
>not brewing potions yourself out of DRAGON BODYPARTS, spiced with the finest herbs Blackreach has to offer
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>>187086469
Yeah but to do that I have to download like an extra 5gb of shit. It's what I'm doing right now, but god damn, man.
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I miss the dogfucker
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>>187086747
You can meet her in the afterlife. I'm serious.
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>>187086364
how do you even contact him
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>>187087205
Complaining about the (((Discord clique))) is one of the most effective way to get his attention.
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sksex64 never
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>>187087309
is snakestone jewish?
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>>187087009
Did xir kill xerself?
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>>187087309
There's a discord?
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>>187083638
who would want to post during a cumtears cringe session?
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has anyone here ever posted a collage of ALL their waifus, like all the presets you ever done?
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https://mega.nz/#!cewX3Y7a!519i7vdfSoothVVouaGqiHpHpF6BtqxyKvS6aX1VOIU
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Would you let your waifu be impregnated by an alpha Redguard male?
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>>187088839
No never. I'd rather let an orc do it
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>>187088905
>letting a nigger fuck your waifu
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cbbe or unp?
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>>187088839
No, never.
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Daily reminder that Bee got impregnated by an orc
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>>187089019
*half orc
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>>187088674
Can you post the others that are locked behind the paygate?
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>>187088984
redguards are the niggars
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>>187088656
Not a collage, but I made a group shot. It's outdated, missing my newest character.
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>>187089250
No they aren't. They don't do anything niggetry, their skin is just dark. Orcs are the real niggers.
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>>187084996
TES5Edit
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Why does /tesg/ hate bosmer???
Literally no bosmer characters
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>>187089019
>waifu got impregnated by an orc
>or a troll, or a giant, or a bear, or a falmer, or a cat
Which Honey waifu hasn't?
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>>187088656
Pretty much what https://imgur.com/a/YSUMg is
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>>187089335
This.
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>>187089421
Bee's the only one.
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>>187089420
It's not just here, Bosmer are underappreciated everywhere. Not really surprising, lore on them is very scarce.
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>>187089420
I can name at least five not even counting my own three.
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>>187089547
Erowen got Falmer'd. Orchid got troll'd and sprigg'd.
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>>187089628
They key was the word impregnated.
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>>187089421
At least four of them have never had sex with anything
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>>187089548
I would make that face too if my 10/10 daughter lets herself get fucked by a deadbeat nigger who will probably leave the house once she gave birth to a mulatto abomination.
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>>187089548
That's the COOLEST Bosmer though.
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>>187090515
fuck off shitposter faggot
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>>187073405
Add Ordinator. Its fucking horrifically put together. Shit mod on its own, but thats not the reason.
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Anyone from the discord could hop into the steam group chat to give a link?
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>>187090515
>the only reason anyone would use a follower is to become buddies with the creator
I bet you have many friends in real life.
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>>187090515
>actually talking shit about Ellerete
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>>187090515
>when shitposting clones doesnt get you off anymore
everyone here hates you, fuck off shitposting subhuman
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>>187090515
take your meds
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>>187090515
You can shitpost me or even lewd/maim my waifu, but you do NOT do any of that to Ellerete!
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>>187091665
stop responding to yourself
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>>187091528
yo haar you tried the new frecklemania? what do you think about it?
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>>187091723
That's better.
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>>187091750
No I haven't because I do not like change. If it ain't broke don't fix it, etc. etc. I'll probably inevitably give it a try some day, I'm just in no rush.
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>>187091973
i would really suggest taking a look at the face freckles. the body ones are still not as good as they could be, but the face one has gotten a lot of new different ones, they are really good.

>>187091053
you can also try messaging snake on tumblr http://mrsnakestone.tumblr.com/
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>>187090987
lol
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>>187090515
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How do I create a gayboy bosmer?
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>>187092660
make male bosmer and have him romance and have sex with men
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What the fuck is the discord
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>>187091973
cute
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Anybody knows about a good currency overhaul? i played with coins of Skyrim for a while but it's pretty mediocre.
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>playing human in a fantasy game
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>>187093597
it's amazing how many people out there are total chads without any shred of creativity that can't even justify it without boiling everything down to "muh human dik nikka" or being literal self-inserts
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is there a mod that pushes lods farther back?
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>>187093597
Nobody posts cats anymore.
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>>187093861
>>187093597

But there's no humans. Nords, Bretons, Redguards, Imperials, but no humans
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>>187093918
raise ugrids
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>>187094067
how?
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>>187094058
They are humans though. They're referred to as humans in every TES game. That's like saying blacks, asians, whites and spics are not humans.
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10 Archives of Cloneskin variations
https://mega.nz/#!GBtijKzT!bZ-mG8hZpQess84h0GFz_0NW8qXZXu7050SixIhwXJk
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With so many lewd mods out, is anyone doing like a compilation of them?
I know, I know, I am a lazy fuck, but community usually does stuff like that, don't they?
Is it difficult to do here? I just want skyrim like on some of those screens but can never achieve myself.
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>>187094830
Nobody does these, because they would weigh a literal fuckton, everybody has different preferences and nobody gives a fuck.
Skyrim is no place for you if you're a lazy schmuck.
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>>187094830
>but community usually does stuff like that, don't they?
no, not us.

>Is it difficult to do here?
not unless you're stupid and lazy
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>>187094986
>>187094952
I've russians do some on one of their porn sites.
Weights about 8gbs and seems to include many things, but I know fuck all russian, was just wondering.
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>>187094603
virus
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>>187095297
>russians
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>>187094830
It wouldn't have been difficult actually, but no one does it. Instead they give super long instruction lists to do it yourself, so go start there.

Part of the fun is to customize your shit for your own tastes anyway.
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>>187095481
It looks something like that. Not bad, I think. From what I can tell it's a big compilation of many different sex mods and texture mods. But I can't understand shit, even with the translator. Which is why I was wondering if there are any in english.
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>>187095834
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>>187085547
>Buying potions
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>>187095703
Yeah... I already tried it obviously, several times, from scratch, but it's just not looking like those gorgeous screens I see.
If I'm lucky it also won't crush. But yeah, anyway, can a man dream? I am not a very imaginative person and I would be glad to play someone else set of skyrim.
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Any must have mods if you wanna do alchemy stuff?
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>>187094603
whats a cloneskin?
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i just started using Ordinator for my game and was wondering, with the right setup is there literally no limit to how many skellingtons you can have bound to you, or am I misreading something?
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>>187096597
Clones' skin textures.
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>>187096757
are they top tier?

i might try them out
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>>187095834
>The game's visuals have been overhauled completely, all possible to a totally unique version of Tropical Skyrim, made specifically for this modpack.
>The game has become way more interesting, more vibrant and fun, just like tomb raider, prince of persia and far cry
>Personally I like this version of Skyrim more than the original, even modded, I would recommend this to anyone except for rampant lorefags
>If you don't like the new tropical environments you can simply disable them by unticking [plugin names]
>Genre: Blowjob, Titjob, Oral, Teen, Old, Gay, Lesbi, Anal, Rape

Words cannot describe my disgust
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>>187097007
cloneskin and mega milkdrinker is what basically everyone here uses
made by this guy >>187073570
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>>187097062
You reckon it's shit then?
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>>187096043
>got AIDS from a vampire
>walk to alchemy shop
>theres no fucking hawk feathers
>I see a single cure disease potion in stock
>realize I can just fucking use a shrine to cure myself
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>>187097194
wew. ill download it then
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>finally modded Morrowind to perfection
>took hours but was worth it
>want to sit down in front of my big ass television and play
>turns out it doesn't have native controller support
>have to use Ukrainian spyware
>have to basically program the entire input scheme
>took me three hours to refine
>movement still feels horrendous
>quit playing
>uninstall Morrowind

Fuck you
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>>187096231
Please respond
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>>187096069
But even if someone actually did make a convenient one click super modded Skyrim, you still wouldn't know how to use it and eventually properly add more stuff yourself or change what you don't like. Like, if I'd gave you my Skyrim right now, you would have no map markers whatsoever. No one want this in 2017 right? Well I do.

I'd say try again, especially if you have a buff enough PC. If you actually care enough to the point of going into a general of a game you don't even play you should do yourself a favor and pick up the step guide and carefully read it.
Sure you can dream, but you can achieve your dreams, too.

Also
>tropical skyrim
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>>187093541
Anybody?
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>>187097559
Something to unfuck the potion prices, because otherwise you are going to become Skyrim's Donald Trump after brewing your first batch.
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>>187097360
Any modpack is pretty much shit, russians have some "alright" ones but they are not for skyrim and are mostly not to be trusted, ever.
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>>187097509
>playing any old RPG on a controller
You brought this on yourself, you triple nigger turbocuckold
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>>187097656
Alright. Yeah, I do care enough. I just want to be a cool guy, going around having sexual intercourse with chicks.
Any guide that you would personally recommend then? I will have another go at it.
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>>187097479
>downloading viruses
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what do you use to take screenshots?
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>>187097843
It's okay when you can't afford a couch and a television anon.

We don't judge poorfags like you here.
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>>187098005
My screenshot key which takes it through my ENB.
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>>187098306
Clones, who are some of your favorite /tesg/ husbandos?
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>>187098001
Did you download and prove it's a virus, or are you just salty no one has to personally ask you everytime they want a skin texture
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>>187098459
Yes
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>>187098154
dumb frogposter
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>>187098401
>Clones
Wrong person.
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Guys, need a good Mod or something that can make Spellbreaker Better, so it's not utterly shitier armor wise compared to Dragon shields.
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literally unplayable
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A quick question.
I sort of want to return to TES and try Skyrim Special Edition on my way back to Morrowind. Are there any good UI mods for SE? It seems that SkyUI isn't compatible with SE?
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>>187099282
nothing good is compatible with SE.
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Did cloneskin get leaked?
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>>187099412
just old versions, the newest is still not available (the one without any seams)
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>>187097953
As I said go read the STEP guide from scratch. Following it carefully to have a good base modded game first is easier and way faster than asking around about mods. You'll also naturally learn about critical mod utilities too. If you have any doubts about something specific go watch the stuff from this channel
https://www.youtube.com/user/gamerpoets
There's also a youtube version of the STEP guide I think but always read it first as it's constantly being updated. The guide is here
http://wiki.step-project.com/Main_Page
Always read the "detailed instruction" of each recommended mods.
Keep in mind this guide doesn't have the sexy stuff, but you'll add that stuff yourself later, using all the tools and tips this same guide will teach you. That way you'll actually have a good looking, well performing Skyrim in which you'll fuck actually good looking bitches in (or get raped yourself), and even some good gameplay (ask the general about combat mods once you finish the guide)

Took me around 2.5 weeks to get to this level myself, and I have to work overtime. Take your time though, go at your own pace, this game won't die anytime soon
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>>187099368
Damn, that's a shame.
Also I should've read the OP before posting. Looks like SE isn't worth it. Sorry guys!
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Does anyone know if any of the alternate starts for that Skyrim mod can fuck up your progress for any of the quests?
I started out as a soldier for the Imperial Army and I'm pretty sure it irrevocably messed up the Message to Whiterun quest.
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>>187100218
Random start seems less likely to cause issues.
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>foot ik crash for too many animations
>all I have is osex and one poser
how the fuck
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>>187073457
Can someone tell me why CBBE is outdated?
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>>187100534
can you tell me why you are a fucking retard?
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>>187100492
if its halo poser and 0sex then no wonder. they both ahave a fuckton of hkx files
>>187100534
lower poly count, worse weights
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>>187100480
Is random start just a random one of the alternate starts or something else?
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>>187100614
Ok thank you. Also can I ask what is a good alternative for Climate of Tamriel?
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>>187100492
you can always bypass it by creating a new character and loading your newest save.

i like to disable osa and only enable it when i need it since its so heavy.
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>>187100218
They don't.
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>>187100913
>you can always bypass it by creating a new character and loading your newest save.
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>>187101134
ded tred
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>>187100743
Nothing. Weather mods are a meme. True Storms is good though because it's not a "weather mod" in the same sense.
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can i mod skyrim into MGR?
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So what'd you do in Skyrim today, friends?
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>>187077370
I swear to god if Skyrim AI wasn't so horrible to work with to any degree I'd do my own version of ICAO that.. yknow actually works with stuff. You can work around the navmesh compatibility issues, it just takes more effort.
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>>187103349
I reached into the new dimension.
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>>187103349
Cleaning my mods.
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>>187103349
Nothing at all.
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>>187104248
Dem legs tho
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I'm trying to use my controller to play Skyrim on my laptop, but it only detects it when I press buttons which are mapped to the mousepad. So I can look around and draw a weapon, but I can't do anything which is normally done via the keyboard e.g. jumping.

Anyone able to help? Experienced anything similar?

pls help
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>>187104667
what controller are you using
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>>187104812
PS4 with DS4
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>>187099560
That's a lot, thanks.
I found a guide A naughty and immersive skyrim by Anatriax and following it now. Following my dreams!
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>>187104908
do you have "hide ds4 controller" checked in the settings?
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>>187105018
No, should I?
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>>187105450
yes, i use the same setup and i always have it checked and never have issues

never used it with skyrim though, but it should fix your problem
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>start new game
>~
>psb
>~
>tab
>magic
>ctd
rip
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>>187104920
No problem man, and good luck. I skimmed through that guide and while there's a few bad mods in there (avoid tamriel HD) it should work well.
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>>187103349
completely starting new.
going to make a playthrough with a party of 4 (might do 1 female 3 males).
currently brainstorming on how i want to do this.
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>>187105596
It works, whoever you are you have my eternal gratitude
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>>187106358
Is it even possible to make the game balanced with this much peoples
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>>187106565
i wont make them essential
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Hows archery without stealth?
I want to do a character that uses 2H and bows but dont wanna stealth
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>>187106837
so you wanna be a stealth archer is what you're getting at?
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>vinc finally updated glenmoril
Amazing how one autistic gook can manage to make such a superior zone and quest mod compared to beyond skyrim bruma abortion.
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>>187106921
Without stealth
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>>187106970
Vicn is a gift from God.
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>>187106837
ive tried that before. you'll most likely be engaging with the bow and use the sword for the rest of the fight unless you're able to keep your distance
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>>187103349
A couple lewds
>>187106970
I'ma wait until all episodes are finished
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>>187107898
Are there any traps and stuff like that to slow enemies down?
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>>187103349
Hunted down a bandit for Annekke, killed some interesting creatures along the way, initiated a treasure hunt, and soaked a bit at the natural hot spring.
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>>187107898
>unless you're able to keep your distance
Which he won't since hostile NPCs are like homing missiles that can't be stopped by anything other than total death
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>>187107970
there might be a mod out there that can help. you just need to search
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Anyone ever had an issue with oblivion where the audio for environments is balanced but audio originating from your character is coming from one side? I thought it might have to do with me using tfc or tcl alot, or maybe some mod i downloaded but I honestly have no idea at this point.
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>>187107970
Both SPERG and Ordinator add calltrops and bear traps to the Lockpicking perk tree.
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Share stolen treasure

Also, i'm looking for a mod, a house mod. I want a luxurious home to store all my treasure and jewellery in, preferably display it. Any suggestions?
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>tfw want to make custom homes for all my characters
>tfw can't bring myself to open the CK
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>>187111734
You can try here first, has a good number of decent house mods.

https://www.tesgeneral.com/skyrim-abodes
Also, is Buffscale lurking? Your waifu pack link is broken and I need a replacement for the OP site.
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>>187112558
I see her vagoo.
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>>187112558
might want to cover that up
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>>187112461
>buff waifu pack gone
I don't think anyone will miss it.
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>>187112734
And butthole.
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goddamn slutty clothing
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>>187104248
>>187112558
Torn denim shorts? I can get behind that for casual wear.
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>>187113847
>Torn denim shorts? I can get behind that for easy acces.
ftfy
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Bush

yes/no?
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>>187114227
I mean, I guess you could if your S/O is presenting herself in a teasing sort of way.
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Do you guys clean every single mods or just the ones LOOT tells you to clean?
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>>187114838
no
fuck u capn
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>>187114838
Some can rock a bush and look sexy with it while others can't. Try out your options and go with what looks on her.
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>>187114838
Yes

Don't go overboard tho
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>>187114838
You probably use a texture with disgusting pussies anyway, might as well go all the way
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>>187112454
You should give it a shot. Get motivated.

>>187103349
Set up a scene for later.
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>>187106970
Fucking yes, please let the Kos Parasite be in it, I'm downloading it now. I wonder if the whip weapons look as good as the screens.
>>
TL;DR on Stendarr and Meridia?
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>>187090987
I've been using ordinator for a while and have had no issues. My favorite perk overhaul
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>>187114838
only Jeb.
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>>187116771
they hatefuck eternally
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Is the enb particle patch suppose to kill my fps whenever I turn my character toward smoke?
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>>187114874
Everything that needs cleaning.
LOOT is unreliable on this front. It relies on users to report the need for cleaning, and then someone that maintains the masterlist has to add it.
Not to mention most cleaning reports only list ITMs and deleted records. A plugin can be dirty in several other ways.
I also make sure appropriate bash tags are added where necessary.
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Post what song you're listening to right freaking now, anon.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5k3casyhOis
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>>187118581
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gzBqayDmJ8
This isn't even a joke.
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>>187118581
>Sabaton
>Man of War
great tastes anon
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>>187118581
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DITy3T2BgbI
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>>187118581
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LL998ajnjN4

I like putting this on repeat while I do things.
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>>187118887
Those eyebrows are way too detailed for that face texture.
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>>187118581
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5Fq3U_FjYc
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>>187115613
>You should give it a shot.
Oh it's not like I've never done that stuff in the CK. Well not a full house anyway, but I've done some cell edits to existing house mods. It's just so tedious and I hate the camera controls in the render window
>>187118581
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CJZtRkgO8k
Cory Henry is too good for words
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>>187119609
Thank you, I never noticed that
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>>187120032
Elf mom follower when?
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>>187118581
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASVn66GIFC0
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>>187120160
Mommy!
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>>187118581
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CudI-RIzcg

>>187120032
I haven't done an entire house yet either. I really want to make one for Fanar but I have so much on my plate already.
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>>187120032
I don't have the patience to make a house mod, and the fact that you have to use the CK sucks. Doesn't help that the camera is so sensitive, and the crashing.

>>187120160
>tfw no 9S costume and no 9S idle
Fucking MemeB.
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>>187103349
trying to fix CTD issues and giving up on having all followers in the same safehouse in the process
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>>187120834
I agree there too much 2b love. I need more A2 in my life.
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>>187118581
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wS0pn3kbAsA

I wanna die right now
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>>187097509
Just use Steam you nigger.
>>
I want weebs to leave.
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>>187118581
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQWgAVCl8e4
the best
>>
what grass mod is this?
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>>187121756
FPS destroyer
>>
What is the best way to make the game feel less lagging when you have tons of mods? I feel like it's all the grass SFO is adding that does it but the grass and foliage is nice.
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>>187121870
>being a gpulet
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>>187120834
>>tfw no 9S costume and no 9S idle
https://mega.nz/#!AKIgxTzC!AoY73NTAebSfWadbsP6W3YyR4TZmwS90PJ3xzx4FnBc
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>>187120135
dunno
>>187120598
>>187120834
I've never had the CK crash actually, but I can imagine how infuriating it must be when it happens My recent trip to Iceland made me want to make exterior cells, but how am I gonna do that if I can't even bring myself to make a simple house
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>>187121756
Dat Grass
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>>187122124
>need a password
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>>187122474
whoever is inside that tower is going to walk out of it with severe eye damage
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>>187122474
Alright, that's a beautiful shot. How'd you do that? What mods and ENB?
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>>187123749
tkre and few texture mods you can by reading the op
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>mfw can't load the last 10 save files for some reason even if I never crashed while playing
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>>187124147
Thanks for specifying which of the fiftyseventhousand texture mods it is. Fuck off you german prick.
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>>187122474
it looks nice but it's poorly implemented
keep finding spots like this
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>>187124367
>german prick
You what
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>>187122124
You're torturing me.

>>187122323
It can get pretty annoying. It takes years to load up, and it took me ages to figure out how to make ground meshes work.
>takes at least 5 minutes to load up
>link ground mesh to inventory slot
>crash :^)
>fiddle with the mesh itself some more
>rinse and repeat until it doesn't crash
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Which of /tesg/'s cutebois would be best to love tenderly?
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Why is there no school for kids in tes?
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>>187125209
Because there's less than 10 kids in all of Skyrim
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Is Superior Lore-Friendly Hair the only retexture for vanilla hairdos (and NPCs, more importantly)? I can't be the only one who thinks it completely ruins everything. As low quality as vanilla is, at least it feels natural, and hides the low poly count.
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>>187125209
home schooled or taught at the temple
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>>187073242
im playing skyrim on a surface pro 4

any mods i should get that shouldn't put a strain on my system?
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magic -snort snort-
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>>187125491
>I can't be the only one who thinks it completely ruins everything
Would you rather they had retarded hairstyles from Apachii? Because that's your other option if you get any npc overhaul
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>>187106837
do conjration magic and get the conjure bow spell when you get to the college of winterhold with conjure battle axe. The battle ax spell is useful until you get to nordic gear and the conjure bow spell is always useful
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>>187127090
Does it scale better than normal bows?
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>>187106970
Just when I thought I was going to do something productive, niiiice.
I'll give it a look in a bit.
>>187118581
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzdNqDHpNWo
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>>187125491
I think it's the only complete retexture. There's a couple of mesh replacers out there, but they don't have everything.

http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/34437/?
http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/28491/?
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>>187127174
it has the stats of daedric gear IIRC and you dont have to carry a bow or battle axe which is like 30 lbs of gear. You can get the bow spell super early at the colle of winterhold and it will level archery and conjuration magic. It's pretty strong. I did that build on a dark elf and it was awesome.
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>>187122323
Usually the crashes happen when you alt tab or idle from my experience. If you just launch and go straight to work it's usually fine. It's always good practice to save every few minutes anyway though.
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Is Aleteration and Illusion a good school of magic?
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>>187126691
I'm sure there are worse mods, but it's still weird. Even STEP recommends it.
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is my ricing good enough yet?
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>>187128235
STEP and everyone else recommend it because it's good. It makes vanilla hairstyles not look like total shit. What's the problem?
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>>187124243
it either works or it doesn't - Todd Howard
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>>187127315
>Nier

I see you are a man of culture as well
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>>187127315
>>187129107
>tfw have the game
>haven't played it all that much as of now.
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>>187103349
Trying to think of a new unique build to try out using Ordinator.
>Necromancer who uses Ahzidal's Ring of Necromancy and Corpse Gas/Plague from Conjuration Tree
>Heavy Armor build that abuses Illusion perks and Primal Fear from Ordinator
>Some kind of bard character
These are my build ideas so far.

>>187127949
Alteration is incredibly strong as a secondary tree for mages and it has a few spells that are good, If you are using Apocalypse Spells then Alteration is the best fucking spell tree in the game, Ocato's Recital lets you store 3 buffs that activate at the start of combat, Spell Twine gives you an effect of your choice whenever you cast a specific spell, Knowledge is Power lets you go cast any one handed spell for free once a day as a power, these are the best spells in apocalypse and they don't require much investment to get to.
Illusion is really fun to use but I haven't gotten far enough to actually know how good it is.
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>>187129024
which is why it might be the time to reinstall everything for the 5th fucking time since apparently saving stops working after a few hours and I've no idea what mod combo in the 200 BSA I have cause it.
I'm starting to think that it might be better to actually install loose mods instead of BSAs trough mod organizer, if that helps in any way to check better incompatibilities.
On the plus side it might be a good excuse to finally experiment with the profile feature of MO and make 1 profile with LL mods and 1 without
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Are there any quality mods for creating black soul gems? I'm doing a mage playthrough.
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>>187129107
I took a break from it a while ago, and I really regret not going through the playthroughs earlier, it's becoming better each time I launch.
>>187129593
You should absolutely. Though, you're more for speedy games, quick beat'em-ups, and have a tendency to shift priority ecstatically.
If you've the time, absolutely install it right now.
The story is amazing, and I'm still having fun with keyboard and mouse, mostly.
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Is this mod any good?
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Can anyone recommend any general npc overhaul mods to cover unimportant townspeople and other nobodies? I have WICO, bijin, the ordinary women, but they each only seem to target a handful of semi-important characters. I know textures will improve npcs but I'm mainly trying to find something that improves head meshes. Inhabitants of skyrim does this but I don't think I'm that keen on it.
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>>187103349
blew a bunch of gross old men
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>tfw no mommy follower
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>>187131445
What do you want a mommy follower for
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>>187132143
I need one to protect me :3
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Anyone has this problem that, after using Poser, you can't zoom in and out, TFC doesn't work, and you can't attack or cast spells, even if you load a previous save?
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>>187131445
I can think of Bee-V, Josalyn, and Nu off the top of my head.
there needs to be more though
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>>187132595
>didnt even mention his step-mom
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>>187132245
But mommies don't fight
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>>187132595
who the fuck is Josalyn
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Post your latest character screenshot, no matter how low quality.
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>>187134256
My latest screenshot is in the /aco/ thread.
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>>187134256
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>>187116049
It's probably gonna be the same as that one Castlevania whip mod, which the look and feel of is highly dependent on having a decent 1h animation to go with it
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>>187134256
already did but ok
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>>187134256
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>>187134256
okay
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>>187134256
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>>187134643
muh hexagons
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>>187130104
>and have a tendency to shift priority ecstatically.
I need to stop doing that because I feel extremely guilty about it at times. Like when I leave people hanging about the Khajiit Textures that I'm working on in order to play a different game or something. It's just hard for me to stick to one thing for a long time.

>>187134256
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>>187135026
>muh, its the only catsuit that doesn't look total carbage
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>>187134790
CUTE bosmer
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>>187134256
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>when a stupid unsolvable bug happens and ruin your entire skyrim

FUCK
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>>187134485
What did you use to create a young looking male?
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>>187135337
literally like KerPlunk
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>>187134256
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>>187133828

yeah mommies fuck
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>>187135740
I want to fuck her in the ass but only if the helmet stays on
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>>187135393
RSChildren, Racemenu, and slider-fu
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>>187073405
>Ultimate Combat
it's bloating my saves superfast, killing them in the process
need confirmation that it's a mod related issue and not because it might be conflicting with other mods

I'm this Anon >>187124243
I started the game with only base game, DLCs, and skyUI and the game kept CTD on load, after disabling Ultimate combat both with and without my other 180 mods I could load again the saves I thought were corrupted

Another 2 notes:

I saw a thread about obsolete and possible conflicting mods which says that mods with area damage might cause issues, Ultimate combat wasn't listed but it has area damage for arrows which might be the culprit.

Tes Edit doesn't show any conflict between Ultimate Combat and my other mods
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>>187136017
Doesn't playing as a kid mess up a lot of quests?
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Im running 2 660ti' SLI and a moderately modded SSE is giving me shit fps (15-25) even at medium quality. Vanilla SSE actualy recommened i play at medium settings. I am pretty sure my mods are all compatible, the heaviest seems to be Immiersive Citizens and Solitude Expanded (tried them serperately and didnt help anything) so its not like im using anything that heavy. Everything was load-ordered with LOOT.

So what am i missing here lads? Hardware power? Should i just upgrade to a 1080 already i mean i have been using these cards since 2013. Im just playing on a 1080p tv right now as well. Some advice or a point in the right direction would be greatly appreciated.
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>>187135246
She's actually just a horribly mangled nord with mongloid features in cosplay.
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>>187135126
Whoops, mixed up erratically and ecstatically,
but yeah, NieR is one of those games I feel you have to really stick with and you get into it, feel for it.
Though with a higher framerate, I'm sure fighting will be much more of a blessing for you. Don't attempt the keyboard controls, ever.
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>>187136324
What the heck
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Racemenu or ECE?
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>>187136624
Racemenu without a doubt
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>>187135538
Rip
I can't fix it.
Literally all I did today was clean 3 mods. And unfortunately you can't undo this so if the issue comes from that I'm fucked.
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>>187135768
But not with their kids tho
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>>187136732
Why?
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>>187136827
compatibility
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Shield and mace is best weapon combination ever

No weapon combination beats it

You have blunt trauma on one side

Blunt trauma on the other side

All the versatility of a metal ball on a stick combined with the protective capabilities of hunk of metal on your arm

Perfection
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>>187136935
Cant you use both?
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>>187134256
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>>187135740
why is she so perfect?
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>>187136820
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Breton conjuration archer or bosmer regular archer with a sword as well?
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>>187137082
why would you wear 2 hats
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>>187135740
I like to imagine your character is like this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eurdtiduqaY
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>>187137181
Oh fuck off already Ellerette. You're just some generic shit like Snakestone who barges in demanding to become a pillar for no reason.
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Ultimate combat or DUEL?
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>>187137447
You should get off the computer for a couple days.
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>>187136227
Not at all. Quests always assume you're the Dragonborn. RSChildren adds its own races.
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>>187137447
You seem really upset "anon"
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>>187138330
Any good mods for fitting armor then?
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>>187137447
>demanding to become a pillar

Literally never happened
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>>187137447
Make it less obvious who you are next time
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>>187137181
It's probably the armor.

>>187137038
>path of exile artwork
Nice, anon. I don't buy cosmetics at all but I'd be damn sure to buy a cosmetic set related to the Oriath.
Shield and mace is definitely one hell of an interesting choice.

>>187137427
That was perfect, though, she'd rather murder the unliving, vampires, werewolves and necromancers than getting married. She can't depend on others and wouldn't love to make, whoever her husband would be, annoyed or worried because of how overzealous she can be about combat.

>>187137856
DUEL is very outdated compared to Ultimate Combat. You can still make a choice between these, but I believe DUEL has little compatibility compared to Ultimate Combat as there are some good patches out there for whatever mod relating to NPCs or combat.
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I'm looking for decent Werewolf/bear mod and discovered Moonlight Tales. However, that mod hasn't been updated in a while and instead a more recent, but feature-stripped version was released by the same author(s)- Moonlight Tales Essentials. The one feature that I'd like the most that seems to be missing is the ability to have werewolf followers transform when you do. Is there any way I can accomplish this without using some outdated mod? I use EFF for my follower mod since that seems to be the only stable one out there at the moment.
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>>187137116

I want them to take turns choking me with their thighs after a long day of adventuring until I pass out
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>>187134256
>low quality
I had bad positioning in this one. The direct lighting from my fireplace has her head in shadow, discoloring it compared to the body. I didn't realize it until it was too late. I should have moved her around and put it to interesting use.
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Why do we never talk about gameplay?
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>>187141028
We do

Alot

Here's that (you)
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>>187141178
>Alot
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>>187141028
What is there to talk about regarding gameplay?
>I walk up to bandits and left click
>FUCKING SCRUB WHY DON'T YOU RIGHT CLICK
>>implying blocking matters
>>melee
>>not sneak archery
>MAGICFAGS BTFO
Yeah we're really missing out on some riveting conversations
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>>187099560
hey its this guy

still around huh? glad someone realized the merit of learning this process and paying it forwards somewhat
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>>187130928
There's NPC84 and SOGs. They're very anime styled but they look alright if you replace the textures.
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>>187100743
vivid adds a lot of stuff, but you might not like all of it. Its almost always having SOME weather in my game and i rarely see a clear day in a months span

i dont mind it personally, but i could see why you wouldnt want it to snow in whiterun ever other day
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>>187141028
The only thing TES is good for is making waifus.
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>>187142756
;_;
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>>187141880
The nexus page has optional patches for clear/stormy weather.
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How you make a pro-creational love in order to make babies?

What race would yield the most strongest seed?
>pls no negers or orks
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>>187143686
Nords Nords and only Nords
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>>187143686
Breton. Talos was a Breton
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Does anyone else here play the game?
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>>187144090
Why would anyone play a 6 years old game and talk about vanilla game?
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>>187144265
haha yeah
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>>187143912
>Talos was a Breton

How cucked are Nords in TES lore? The only thing they ever had going for them at any point was Tiber Septim but then we found out he was a Breton. Any race can be a Dragonborn so what the fuck is even special about Nords? They're just a bunch of retarded savages with no history.
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>>187144265
I'm sure there's people out there who haven't played it yet.
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>>187144982
Don't you know anyone can be Nords?
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>>187146037
Who the fuck would even want to be. Nords are shit-tier and good at nothing.
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>>187146124
Nice meme
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>>187146242
No, I'm serious. What's good or interesting about Nords?
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is there a way to instantly unlock all (including modded) spells

the psb command crashes my game
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>>187134256
Shitty picture taken right before the horse decided to end both of their lives by jumping off of a cliff.
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>>187146421
Literally a race of fair-haired blue-eyed David Hasselhoffs.
Based viking merry-men.
Strongest warriors, had the greatest conquests throughout history.
Make sport of slaying elf fucking shits.
Mastered dragon language and killed dragons with it.
Comfiest architecture.
Agricultural powerhouses.
Will take you to school in a drinking contest.
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>>187146630
Was your horse depressed?!
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>>187147343
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>>187147343
>Literally a race of fair-haired blue-eyed David Hasselhoffs.

Pasty white gorillas.

>Based viking merry-men.

Savage violent hillbillies is more like it.

>Strongest warriors, had the greatest conquests throughout history.

Lolno, Redguards are the best warriors in lore. Orcs are strongest in terms of sheer strength. Nords are just sort of mediocre.

>Make sport of slaying elf fucking shits.

Wow, irrational genocide is so cool dude. Not really though, fuck off back to /pol/.

>Mastered dragon language and killed dragons with it.

Literally any race can do this, it's nothing special about Nords.

>Comfiest architecture.

They live in straw huts. The best architecture in all of Skyrim is in Solitude, a heavily Imperial-influenced city.

>Agricultural powerhouses.

They can barely even grow anything in their shit-tier frozen climate. What are you even talking about.

>Will take you to school in a drinking contest.

Nords drink because there's nothing else to do in their frozen shithole. I guess they can enjoy that alcohol-induced cirrhosis.
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>>187147482
I want to fuck Woe's sister.
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If I download a "hoods with hair" mod will npcs get the hoods automatically?
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>>187147829
Rorikstead is actually amazing farmland. Not much else seems to be, though, and the rest of your post is more or less correct.
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>ban finally up lifted
hijab mod when?

>>187148015
No, unless you have a mod like "wet and cold" installed
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>>187136323
Stop using Special Needs Edition.
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>>187147482
Need more Woe in /aco/
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>>187147829
>that line spacing
christ, reddit
>Pasty white gorillas.
You have a problem with white people? Take your grievances to reddit.
>Savage violent hillbillies is more like it.
They are the most welcoming and tolerant people by far. Every nord is not Rolff Stone-Fist.
>Lolno, Redguards are the best warriors in lore. Orcs are strongest in terms of sheer strength. Nords are just sort of mediocre.
Redguards are great, but their military achivements pale in comparison to Nords who dominated the majority of the continent at one point or another. Orcs are the weakest of the 10 playable races by far, literally can't defend their homeland from a sneeze in their general direction. Have not been the victors in any conflict, ever.
>Wow, irrational genocide is so cool dude. Not really though, fuck off back to /pol/.
I bet you think Ulfric is a racist too. Another thing reddit told you.
>Literally any race can do this, it's nothing special about Nords.
Nope. Only non-Nords who can do it are dragonborn.
>They live in straw huts. The best architecture in all of Skyrim is in Solitude, a heavily Imperial-influenced city.
Solitude is not comfy in the slightest. Only thatch-roofed architecture is in rural villages anyway, which is, in fact, extremely comfy. Thatch-roofing is the best at retaining heat. It's not primitive, it's smart.
>They can barely even grow anything in their shit-tier frozen climate. What are you even talking about.
Did you even play the game or did you close your eyes every time you passed one of the many farms in Skyrim?
>Nords drink because there's nothing else to do in their frozen shithole. I guess they can enjoy that alcohol-induced cirrhosis.
They drink because it's fun and they are immune to alcohol-induced diseases because they're tough as nails.
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Best mod to be a spooky skellington controller necromancer?
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Is this all skyrim werewolf rape mods or can somebody help me with setting up Morrowind multiplayer on a port besides the default one of 25565
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>>187148282
Welcome back
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>>187148604
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>>187148639
Corpse Preparation
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>>187147482
long time no see

gat damn look at em tiddies
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>>187147996
She probably wtfu2

>>187148517
I can repost a few, but nothing new! Unless it's a pic or two I forgot/left out.

>>187148861
I popped in a little bit yesterday! So did the tiddies.
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>tfw Skyrim should have made Nords seem badass since it was their game but it actually made them really shitty backwards racists instead

I mean at minimum you'd think they would be kickass at frost magic but instead they're all HURR MAGIC IS GAY ELF SHIT FUCK THAT
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>>187148945
>but nothing new
;_;
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>>187148945
Please tell me her sister is gonna become a follower
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>>187148974
And by the way, this is considering that they want to weaken themselves by breaking off from the Empire and fight the Thalmor on their own.

That's right. The Nords, who think magic is gay as fuck and avoid it at all costs since they're backwards savages, think they stand a remote chance by themselves against the Thalmor, who can just easily nuke them to oblivion.

Nords are dumb as shit. The Empire should just let Skyrim secede, watch as they get blown the fuck out by the Thalmor, and then move in and take the few parts of the land that are actually useful when all's said and done.
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>>187148945
>even more Falmer
Aren't your kind dead yet?
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>>187149289
>weaken themselves
>by breaking off from the Empire
>fight the Thalmor on their own
>
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>>187149029
I wish that weren't the case, my good GPU died.

>>187149189
One day I hope! It's definitely a goal, but far-removed from this place in time...
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>>187149501
>Nords being smart enough to ally with Hammerfell

They're a bunch of racist inbreds, this would never actually happen.
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>>187149537
How do you have fat fucking titties like that but abdominal definition
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>>187149537
whos the older sister between them
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>>187149432
Well no, there's a huge colony of exiles under an enchanted veil.

>>187149595
Elven superiority

>>187149626
Woe's sister is definitely older! She's basically a celebrity when they're at home, too.
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>>187149716
DOKO DESU KA
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>>187149837
Nya*
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>>187149716
snow elves sure do seem like nudists
maybe they just dont care about how much skin they show down there in elftown or something
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>>187148231
I'm pretty sure the game itself actually says that Rorikstead is pretty shitty land to grow crops on, but raises great crops regardless of the infertile land.
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>>187149432
They should be.
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>>187148974
I thought nords were pretty cool until Skyrim. Granted, I actually do like Skyrim, but the way it presents nords is so bland. Like shitty vikings.
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>>187150702
Will you post the story?
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>>187150702
Where can one find this colony of nude elves?
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>>187150702
I mean sure, some ancient civilizations like the Spartans in particular showed a lot of skin so that idea isn't too far-fetched. People like boobs too, so why the heck not, I like it.
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>>187150463
Quite the opposite, actually. Several npcs there mention how good the land in the area is for farming. You can have a little conversation with the mayor/village leader's steward about it and how successful the farms there are.
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>>187150649
Nords might have been cool in Skyrim if it wasn't for the "racist nazis" angle they decided to push in the game via the Civil War in an extremely hamfisted attempt to balance the factions. They went way too far and so most people just ended up siding with the Empire, and then they felt the need to take away a lot of the things that used to make Nords unique. Now every race in Tamriel has something cool about them except Nords, pretty much. The whole Civil War thing ruined TESV in pretty much every way imaginable.
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>>187151302
Except there's literally only one truly racist Nord.
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>>187151414
Ulfric and all of his lackeys.

>SKYRIM BELONGS 2 DA NORDS

Yeah, the whole factions is pretty much filled with racist shitheads.
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does OBSE have DRM now?
it says you need steam community enabled, what the fuck
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>>187151501
Nationalism isn't racism you idiot.
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>>187151501
It does belong to the Nords tho. Skyrim is the Nord's homeland. Or did you not understand that somehow? It's not an unfit rallying cry when you're trying to push out Imperial oppressors.
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>>187151216
No, I know the farm is successful. I just mean that it really shouldn't be considering it's location.

>>187151676
It's always been like that.
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>>187151750
can we not
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>>187151780
Why don't you reply to the one who started it?
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>>187151764
>it really shouldn't be considering it's location
What's wrong with its location? Do you know a single damn thing about farming?
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>>187151764
>It's always been like that
how so? I used it years ago and it never told me to do that
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>>187151750
Saying that a country belongs to a single race is absolutely racist. What kind of fucked-up logic says otherwise?

>>187151761
Nords aren't even Skyrim's indigenous population. Falmer, Dwemer and Reachmen were there earlier, for example.
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>>187151994
>>>/a fucking dictionary/
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>>187151994
>Falmer, Dwemer and Reachmen were there earlier, for example.
And the Nords won the land through their superiority. That's like saying the USA belongs to the Injuns.
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>>187151750
Nationalism is retarded, especially the Ethno-Nationalism the Stormcloaks want. It's nothing more than an unnecessary spark for war. Cyrodiil is the most multi-ethnic, cosmopolitan region of Tamriel and it's also the most advanced and generally best to live in. Not a coincidence.
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>>187151994
>Saying that a country belongs to a single race is absolutely racist
Gee anon, that sounds pretty anti-semetic. You're not a nazi are you?
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>>187152089
Except the USA government doesn't claim that the country belongs only to white people, not even their President has gone that far (yet, anyway). Of course, if they did, they wouldn't have a leg to stand on, since the land wasn't theirs to begin with. Same deal with the Nords in Skyrim.
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>>187152261
>Except the USA government doesn't claim that the country belongs only to white people
Since when is this about white people vs black people? Real life humans are not different races and as a general rule you should never apply real life scenarios to fantasy, especially when it's completely fucking retarded like what you just did. Fuck off back to your SJW identity politics circlejerk reddit.
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>>187147482
I guess so. I feel like the horse mirrors my soul.
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>>187152392
That's all true but I'm not the one who made that analogy. I was using that poster's logic to turn it against them.
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>>187152506
>I was using that poster's logic to turn it against them.
No you didn't. Not at all. You just made yourself look like an ass.
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>>187152574
I did, and you're clearly too much of a dipshit to understand how I did.
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>>187151882
Ingame sources, my friend.
http://en.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Jouane_Manette
>"Your farms are thriving, even despite the harsh climate. What's your secret?"
>"Secret? What makes you think there's a secret? There are no secrets here, my curious friend. Our prosperity is simply the result of hard work, good fortune and the blessings of the gods."
It's also generally difficult to farm in the tundra. Not impossible, but difficult.

>>187151887
Well, you don't need to do it for disk Oblivion, but for Steam, yeah, you do.
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Anyone know if this eye shape is available in RaceMenu or if I can somehow get eyes that have nice eyelashes like this? I've looked through all the eye shapes and it doesn't seem to be there, at least not with nice eyelashes like these ones. All the ones I have seem to just point vertically and look pretty bad.
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>>187152392
>Real life humans are not different races
Oh shit. Libcuck BTFO'd.
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>>187152642
>Skyrim is, in fact, the Nord homeland, not Imperial
>"BUT WHITE PEOPLE REEEE"
Yeah mate that's some sound fucking logic there.
>>187152646
Yeah you just don't know jackshit about farming in the North then. Do some homework before you
post misinformation. Harsh climate doesn't kill farming.
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>>187149716
>attempted handholding
This is a blue board mate.
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>>187153094
>Skyrim is, in fact, the Nord homeland, not Imperial

I already explained how this wasn't the case no matter how you look at it. If anyone in Skyrim has claim to the land, it's the Reachmen. Multiple races in Tamriel were there before Nords ever were.

And that other anon brought up a real-life comparison by saying that under the same logic, the USA would belong to the Native Americans. Which is actually true, which is another reason why I say that ethnic nationalism is a retarded concept. You couldn't even apply it in that scenario without kicking out everyone of non-Native descent if we want to go the whole "the land belongs to whoever settled it first" route (like the Nords in Skyrim, who that isn't even the case for).
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How does one go about making an interesting looking Argonian? Seen some good ones in these threads, and I'm trying my hand at it, but it feels like it's really missing something and I'm not sure what. Any advice or constructive criticism you guys can hook me up with?
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>>187153395
>I already explained how this wasn't the case
And I already explained how they were all conquested by the Nords.
>that other anon brought up a real-life comparison by saying that under the same logic, the USA would belong to the Native Americans
And he's right. That's how to use a person's logic against someone. Take notes.
>the land belongs to whoever settled it first
This is a retarded concept because it doesn't matter if you were there first if someone better comes along and decimates you. The Nords were not there first, but they came and controlled the land, and have controlled it for thousands of years. Likewise, the colonists came to the United States and seized the land from the Natives. Therefore, in both cases, the land belongs to them now. Why is this such a fucking hard concept for you to understand?
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>>187153781
>muh conquest

So by what measure do the Stormcloaks justify the idea that the land belongs to the Nords, when it was Tiber Septim, a Breton, who conquered all of Tamriel and united it in an Empire in the first place? If the Nords are so into right of conquest, they should sit down, shut the fuck up, and know their place in the Empire.
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>>187149289
>The Nords, who think magic is gay as fuck and avoid it at all costs since they're backwards savages
This seems like a pretty common misconception. The general peasantry =/= all Nords.

In fact Nords approve wholeheartedly of enchanted weapons and armor, and you have dedicated practitioners of the art like Wulferth the Undying and Farengar Secret-Fire.

Two of the greatest mages of all time were Nords (Ahzidaal and Miraak), and all dragon priests were capable spellcasters. Just because unwashed peasants fear magic doesn't mean all Nords disapprove of it, it's simply that they entrust only such things to "court wizards" and others well trained in such matters. There's an interesting dichotomy to their culture and its treatment of magic and no one ever bothers to look past the surface.
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>>187153506
Her nose is very rounded. I don't think that's a problem myself, but if it bothers you, you could change it. Refined Argonian Females might help you out, along with Dragonic Argonians.

Aside from that, just have a clear idea of what you want your lizard to be and try to make her so that it communicates that idea.
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>>187152673
Eyelashes are part of the eye texture. I don't know which they use, may be custom.
That eye shape is Sculpted in some way, you won't find it in either RM or ECE. Rather, you'd have to do it yourself.
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>>187154039
>The College is a bit of an oddity in Skyrim. Magic isn't something that's looked upon fondly here.

>Nords don't trust magic, or those that use it. Made it difficult for me growing up.

>They won't say much, but most people have very strong opinions about the College and those that study here.

>Don't expect the local Nords to take kindly to you once they find out you're from the College.

All coming from Onmund, a Nord at the College of Winterhold.

Nords generally are basically just backwards, brutish barbarians, like the Vikings and other Germanic people they're based off of. Certainly not a race to look fondly upon.
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>>187154030
>So by what measure do the Stormcloaks justify the idea that the land belongs to the Nords
Is this bait? It's simple, they drove out the previous occupants and established their society there. Just like every conquest in history. I mean jfc have you ever so much as opened a history book?
>Tiber Septim
>a Breton
Nice meme, but he's Atmoran. This has been confirmed by a direct statement from Bethesda.
>who conquered all of Tamriel
One, the Nords conquered Skyrim long before then.
Two, Skyrim joined the Empire willingly, they were not conquered.
>know their place in the Empire
>The Empire that forsook its founder
It's not the Septim Empire anymore.
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>>187154363
Why are there no shadows?
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>>187154039
>>187154363
The nords are extremely wary of most magic due to the third era ending largely due to the machinations of Daedra-worshipping mages and the recent huge-ass war with the magic using race.

Also the college gets a bad rap because Winterhold fell into the ocean and some people blame them, which is what Onmund is largely talking about.
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>>187154431
>Nice meme, but he's Atmoran. This has been confirmed by a direct statement from Bethesda.

Nope, read up on the lore. The idea that Tiber Septim was Atmoran is nonsensical Nordic propaganda; Atmorans hadn't been around for several thousand years. He was a Breton born in Alcaire, High Rock.
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>>187154587
He's one of a kind.
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>>187154363
>peasant with peasant upbringing complains about how other peasants didn't like him casting spells
Uh huh.

Master restoration and enchantment and the local guards will speak favorably to you for it. It's destructive energies they mistrust in general. Tsun himself at the gates of Sovngarde holds magic in high regard -- it was once known as the "clever art". That it's gotten such a negative reputation recently is thanks to the war with the Aldmeri Dominion, where an overwhelming number of enemy mages were fought. You hear long enough about how terrible the effects of rampant magic are when tearing through a line of soldiers, you might develop a sour opinion on it as well. There's a big reason the Nords disapprove of cowtowing to the Aldmeri Dominion in general.
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>>187154787
All more evidence that Nords are retarded.

>Hurr the enemy is using advanced weaponry that we could easily have access to but it's hurting us so we better not use it ourselves derp derp
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>>187154587
Not him but Skyrim has a limit to the amount of shadow-casting lights sources that can occupy one space. That limit is 4.
Winterhold is full of non-shadowcasting lights so that the limit isn't reached with just how tightly packed the rooms are.
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Can anyone explain to me why this bitch attacked me on sight?
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>>187154742
Nope, read up on the lore. I'll even spoonfeed your dumb ass.

https://www.imperial-library.info/content/letters-elder-scrolls-adventures
>[He is] a Breton, if you believe those jokers in Alcaire.
>And, while we’re still on the subject, no, Tiber Septim isn’t a Nord, he’s an Atmoran.
http://en.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Tiber_Septim
>was an emperor of Nordic descent
>Believed to have been born in the Nordic continent of Atmora in 2E 828

What's next, are you going to tell me Hjalti Early-Beard isn't a Nordic/Atmoran name?
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>>187152673
I would like to know more about those god-tier facial textures
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>>187155207
The fluffy daughter warned you she was out of control.
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>>187155403
I believe I have made a mistake
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When do you think the next TES game will be announced/released?

Do you think it will have a new engine or just be some shitty updated version of gamebryo again?

Do you think Bethesda will try to implement some paid mod bullshit right from the beginning this time?

Inevitable where will it take place?

WHEN will it take place, how long after Skyrim?

Will the combat still be unsalvageable dogshit?

Finally,

Will mods be able to fix it?
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Kill fluffy tail!
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>>187155275
You're referencing the propaganda I was talking about. Tiber used that "I am a super Nord dudes, believe me!" thing to secure the throne. According to TES' timeline, Atmora was already a frozen wasteland devoid of life when Tiber Septim supposedly came from there. It's bunk. Tiber Septim was a Breton born in High Rock.
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>>187156102
>official statement by Bethesda
>Nord propaganda
>jokers in Alcaire
>not Imperial propaganda
explain how this logic is anything but backwards
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>>187156251
http://en.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:The_Arcturian_Heresy

At least part of this is actually supported by:

http://en.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Ghost_of_Old_Hroldan

And is most likely the accurate account, given its relative historicity whereas the "official" account that the games give us on Tiber Septim/Talos are filled with myth and heavily romanticized and are meant to be taken as suspect.

Tiber Septim was a Breton that the Nords decided to consider one of their own and eventually that morphed into the myth that he was actually a Nord himself.
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>>187155991
>When do you think the next TES game will be announced/released?
2020, maybe?
>Do you think it will have a new engine or just be some shitty updated version of gamebryo again?
this is bethesda we are talking about
>Do you think Bethesda will try to implement some paid mod bullshit right from the beginning this time?
yes, or they will try some way to implement it.
>Inevitable where will it take place?
Valenwood or hammerfell. I want it to be in High Rock
>WHEN will it take place, how long after Skyrim?
that's a jagged question really, They could go back in time so they can explain what happen with certain races and develop on their lore a bit
>Will the combat still be unsalvageable dogshit?
As long as console kiddies get to sprout memes from the internet, then yes
>Will mods be able to fix it?
I hope so, luckly I started playing 2 years after it's release and it's bearable. When I look at Shitout 4 and it's mods. No amount of mods can save that garbage, unless someone mods in old fallout 2 skills, non-sponge eneimes, and more choice, etc. Other than that it's a complete shot in the dark
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>>187156672
>Hjalti was from the island kingdom of Alcaire, in High Rock
>being born in High Rock means you're a Breton
>your birthplace determines your race
Please tell me you're baiting. You cannot actually be this retarded.
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>>187156830
Who's this?
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>>187156830
>this is bethesda we are talking about
i mean yeah

but they have to upgrade eventually
r-right
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>>187156063
>killing your dragonfu
Just terrible.
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>>187155287
Pure skin
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>>187157019
C0DA, written by TES' lore-crafter Michael Kirkbride, has Kyne refer to him as a "manmer", which Bretons are. I forget where, but he was also referred to as a man short of stature with soft facial features, like Bretons have.
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>>187157585
>C0DA
Stop
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>>187157839
No. When the guy responsible for creating the lore of the series writes something dealing with TES lore, that supercedes everything else.
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>>187157585
>C0DA
Non-canon fanwork.
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>>187157585
>C0DA
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>>187157930
>responsible for creating the lore of the series
Oh, so you are baiting
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>>187157951
>fanwork

It was written by Michael Kirkbride. Do you even know who that is? He's the man who created Tiber Septim in the first place.
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>>187157930
>thinks Kirkbride is solely respnsible for TES lore.
He's not even responsible for most of the lore.
MK dicksuckers are the worst kind of """lore""" fag.
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>>187158113
The only, and I mean literally ONLY people who ever get butthurt over Kirkbride are Nord enthusiasts who can't get over the fact that Talos was not actually a Nord, and that Nords are actually pretty shitty and lack any interesting history.
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>>187158098
Kirkbride is not the end all be all of lore, you know.
>>187158220
Why would I be butthurt over something that's not canon?
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>>187158290
Because it is canon, and literally every other part of the fanbase save for some Nordnigger holdouts have long since accepted it and moved on.
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>the concept of C0DA is that every interpretation of the universe is valid. Two people can disagree on a subject and both be right. Indeed, two facts in wild contradiction can be simultaneously true.
>MK fags try to use C0DA to prove people wrong
do these people have zero self awareness?
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>>187158441
Even before C0DA there was plenty of evidence about the whole Tiber Septim being a Breton thing. It was obviously the direction they're taking things with the lore.
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>>187158398
The teslore subreddit (aka "muh headcanon is valid", the board) is not literally every other part of the fandom
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>>187158441
I'm neutral on MK's non-game texts. They're often interesting, but I don't really consider them canon on the same level as actual ingame lore.

Watching MK fags try to act like C0DA is absolute canon while also saying that any interpretation is canon are hilarious.
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>>187158919
You're right, but they're also far from the only place that accepts it.
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>guy who creates a character says that character was a Breton
>uhhhhhhh no that can't be canon only in-game stuff is canon btw all that stuff in-game that supports him being Breton is also a lie lol

Just stick to the waifus, /tesg/.
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>>187158596
>Even before C0DA there was plenty of evidence about the whole Tiber Septim being a Breton thing.
>disproven at every step and used C0DA as a crutch
try again
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>>187159473
>guy who creates a character says that character was a Breton
*in a non-canon fanfiction. Writers do alt universe "what-if" shit all the time.
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>>187156063
Who is that wai-fu?
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>>187157286
keep dreaming anon
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>>187159974
Samuraifu I made. Too bad asian eyes and noses aren't possible
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>>187160324
Sure they are possible, anon.
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>>187159731
It's not even remotely presented as what-if, it simply follows all of the evidence built up in the game of Tiber being a Breton to its logical conclusion. The account that Nord-lovers such as yourself want to cling to has since been deemed propaganda in-universe. Deal with it, son.
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>>187160429
Holy shit gib
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what the fuck is wrong with nexus mods
everytime i try to download something it gives me
>LOL AN ERROR HAS OCCURED FGT
i found a work around by right clicking it and opening the link in a new tab but there are other mods that have prerequisites so it fucks me from using the workaround.
is it just me? i checked the forums and noticed other people have the same issue.
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>>187160492
Allow me to refer you to
>>187157019
>>187155275
Where's the counter-evidence that he's a Breton then?
1. Being born in High Rock does nothing to suggest he isn't Nord/Atmoran
2. Official statements from Bethsoft that align with common belief within the world of Tamriel is solid evidence that he's a Nord/Atmoran.

I'll wait. Try to do it without C0DA fanfiction.
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>>187160324
If Cumtears can make a nip waifu then it should be easy for you.
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>>187160763
>Nord/Atmoran

I just want to know what you're attempting to imply here.

https://www.imperial-library.info/content/kurt-kuhlmann-posts

>On the origin of Nedes
>The usual Imperial arrogance. The hoary old "Out of Atmora" theory has been widely discredited (no reputable archaeologist would publicly support it these days), but the Imperial Geographers continue to beat the drum of the Nordic Fatherland in the best tradition of the Septim Empire. They seem to think that the imprimature of officialdom gives their outdated scholarship added weight -- which, unfortunately, it appears to in the eyes of the ever-gullible public which continues to snap up the latest Pocket Guides along with the rest of their Imperial Certified pablum. (HA)

and

https://www.imperial-library.info/content/forum-archives-michael-kirkbride

>Out of Atmora (07/10/08):

>And for the last time (uh huh), Nedes != Atmorans. That's just shoddy scholarship from a bygone regime.
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>>187152673
That's morphing from RAN's recent ECEE updates; lower/upper eyelid stuff, shape/position/height/depth of medial and lateral canthus'.
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>>187160809
But he wants to make a GOOD asian waifu.
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>>187160893
I don't know what you're trying to say but I don't think I disagree with you? What do Nedes have to do with anything? Nords share Atmoran heritage, everyone knows this.
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>>187160324
It's very possible, anon. You just have to take your time, be patient with your changes.
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>>187160949
Cumtears waifus are unironically top-tier, but underrated.
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>>187160913
Could it be used with RaceMenu? Are the morphs contained in the .tri files or something?
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>>187161105
I was trying to figure out what you meant by "Nord/Atmoran", since I wasn't sure if you were implying they were one in the same, which they aren't.
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>>187161217
Gee, I wonder who's behind this post.
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>>187161258
They're obviously not the same, but they are direct descendants.
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>>187160750
nice to know that nobody gives a fuck.

so much for trying out modding
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>>187161383
maybe people just don't know, dude.
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anyone got this and willing to share?

>Death Lady from Vindictus Slutty Version (All Bodyslide) by Nini
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>>187161383
>no one answers for 10 minutes
>sperg the fuck out
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>>187161383
it works for me. It's probably your broswer
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>>187161239
Ordinarily no, but:

Backup your racemenu everything, then use this at your own risk, I didn't put a lot of time into it. It should work fine as a patch/overwrite.

https://mega.nz/#!FVpTRZrI!7jOUYGZjdQhuHsynQJpXfmnOeFKKWjw3i12cb9J4x_A
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>>187161890
Thanks man. I don't have time to test it out right now, but I have it downloaded for later.
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>>187160750
It's your own fault, the webmaster said so himself
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>>187160913
So I've been wondering, are you a doctor/biologist?
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>>187160763
>Where's the counter-evidence that he's a Breton then?

http://en.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:The_Real_Barenziah#Part_3

>They settled themselves at the table. Barenziah was dumbfounded. Tiber Septim was nothing like the grim, grey, giant warrior she'd pictured. He was of average height, fully half a head shorter than tall Symmachus, although he was well-knit of figure and lithe of movement. He had a winning smile, bright -- indeed piercing -- blue eyes, and a full head of stark white hair above a lined and weathered face. He might have been any age from forty to sixty.

Bear in mind that Symmachus was a Dunmer.

So, we have a man who is native to High Rock and is notably short of stature. What TES race has these characteristics, again?
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>>187161554
https://mega.nz/#!ZHAw0LiJ!EfGny51c0Ygw5Y4pobdwyAvdFP74D-iCqpCpbS_fGi0
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>>187162276
>He was of average height
>notably short of stature
You're not even reaching now, you're blatantly ignoring the very text you yourself are quoting
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>>187162426
Short of stature by Barenziah's expectations, enough for her to be "dumbfounded" by it.
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>>187148763
you could check the tesmp discord they should have a tech help page
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>>187162061
She's my future wife.
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>>187162498
Yes, meaning her expectations were for him to be a giant, not meaning he was a fucking manlet.
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>>187160324
But that's what my character has, anon!
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>>187162660
Average height for his race, shorter than a Dunmer on the tall side... Breton.
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>>187162832
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>>187163049
Are you even aware of the racial heights in TES lore? A tall Dunmer like Symmachus might be about as tall as the average Nord, given that the average Nord is significantly taller than the average Dunmer. In any event, Tiber was shorter than both but still described as "average". The obviously conclusion to make here is that he could not have been a Nord. Breton, however, makes the most sense, especially given his birthplace.
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Didn't most people get Special Edition for free?

I've been enjoying it.
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>>187163394
No point in playing it without a script extender for mods.
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>>187163223
>Symmachus was a particularly tall Dunmer
>Tiber could not possibly have been a short Nord
>Nope, a guy named Hjalti must have been a Breton because he was born in High Rock, I guess his parents were just Nordaboos
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>>187163513
>Tiber could not possibly have been a short Nord

Yes, because he is described as "average".

>Nope, a guy named Hjalti must have been a Breton because he was born in High Rock, I guess his parents were just Nordaboos

Or what about this: we know that, in the Elder Scrolls universe, the children of two different races always take on the race of their mother. Hjalti could have very easily had a Breton mother and Nord father, and he would have been a Breton who was given a Nord name, possibly to reflect his non-genetically-expressed Nord heritage.
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>>187162717
Follower when.
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>>187163721
>"tiber was short"
>"but it says he was average"
>"it really means he was short"
>"okay then maybe he was a short nord"
>"tiber was average"
Spin around any faster and we can hook you up to a power grid and provide free energy
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>>187161973
>I don't have time to test it out right now
That's good, because that's the wrong link.
https://mega.nz/#!Uc5kUAbD!TfolJKC0CaPrZKMMLNnEsEPJlQDOIvD9LLvN2_-UfIE

>>187162639
You stop that.
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>>187163761
Never, very likely. ;_;
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>>187158220
>Nords are actually pretty shitty and lack any interesting history
I can agree with the rest of what you said but not this. They've got a lot of cool stuff going on in their history.
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>thinking talos was just one man
lmao
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I want to impregnate Nim!
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>>187163721
This sounds pretty likely to me honestly, but it would have been more likely for his mother to be a Nord. Maybe pappy was a rolling stone of an Ayleid or something. Well, elves were rapists so that his mother MAY have been raped is not so far fetched, and why would she utilize any naming convention other than that of her forefathers? Breton culture didn't spring up overnight, but what is known is that they share lineage with Nords simply because, well, the Nedic people all had to come from somewhere, yes?

This argument would have more controversy to it if someone had claimed that he was a Redguard -- because in that case there's no way he could have had Nord blood.
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I feel like this is coming along now thanks to some tips anon dropped on me earlier. Still not 'done' but it feels like I'm making some progress, and earlier I was just spinning my wheels and ending up with an Argonian that looked barely NPC worthy, so I think this is an improvement. What do you guys think?
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>>187164496
Please don't say unreasonable things.
Nim is for befriending only.
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>>187164864
Nim is for breeding only? Yeah, I agree!
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>>187163721
>Or what about this: we know that, in the Elder Scrolls universe, the children of two different races always take on the race of their mother. Hjalti could have very easily had a Breton mother and Nord father, and he would have been a Breton who was given a Nord name, possibly to reflect his non-genetically-expressed Nord heritage.
if you have to jump through that many fucking hoops, only to come up with "maybe" chances are you're wrong
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>>187073242
Newfag here Im confused

Game is like 9.89 bucks now but wasnt there a sub-based subscription for this game?
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How goes the hunt/bounty/slaying/dispensing of justice?
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any good Breylena mods?
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>>187165380
/gsg/ is about to raid you guys. get ready.
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>>187165535
which one is gsg
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>>187163852
He was shorter than a tall Dunmer. The average Nord would not be as such.

>>187165072
Well, he sure as fuck wasn't a Nord. I'm really just trying to throw the Nord-humpers a rope, here.
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Why are the elves so shit at genocide? For the Thalmor being called elven nazis, they just suck at it compared to the humans.
The Ayelids couldn't put down the uppity slaves and were wiped out, and the Falmer got nearly wiped out by one pissed Nord and his 500 drinking buddies.
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>>187165575
grand strategy general. This is the third raid today from them.
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>>187165609
>The average Nord
Are you drunk or do you have the short term memory of a candy corn
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>>187165609
>Well, he sure as fuck wasn't a Nord.

>Named Hjalti Early-Beard
>Is cited as a Nord or Atmoran both in-game and by Bethesda
B-BUT HE WAS BORN IN HIGH ROCK AND HE WASN'T 8 FEET TALL SO HE'S A BRETON RIGHT?
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>>187165658
>"raiding" a general during mostly ded hours on their own board
guess they're too intelligent for me to understand
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>>187165750
>>187165658
The guy's a fucking idiot, janny's watching right now after our stunts. He got too eager to waggle the willy.
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>>187165824
>/gsg/ is host to idiots
color me surprised
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>>187165887
at least we're smart enough to make our own mods
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Hjalti was probably just a halfbreed Nord/Breton, like the Reachmen.
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>>187165609
>Well, he sure as fuck wasn't a Nord.
Yeah, I mean it's not like all the evidence points to him being a Nord and the C0DA fags have to reach into the next solar system for evidence to suggest that there's a slim possibility of him being a Breton.

Oh wait.
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>>187165887
Coloring is all they do
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>>187165991
breton with a nord name cause nord daddy, wulfharth was the true nord and stormcrown.
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>>187165609
>He was shorter than a tall Dunmer.
>tfw I've been playing a non-Nord this whole time
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>/gsg/
>literally fast forward and wait for events: the genre
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>>187165702
>>187166109
Let me lay this out for you since you seem to be particularly simple-minded.

-In the lore, Nords are stated to be a very tall race; among the tallest. Certainly much taller than Dunmer, among others.
-Symmachus is a Dunmer who happens to be on the tall side. Given that Dunmer are, on average, significantly shorter than Nords, this would put him toward the range of average Nord height.
-Tiber Septim is described as being quite a bit shorter than Symmachus, while at the same time being referred to as "average height". This would mean that his race is, on average, shorter than a tall Dunmer, and also shorter than an average Nord.
-If he was both a Nord, and of "average height", Barenziah would not have been very surprised by his appearance; it would have met her expectations.

Therefore, his own physical description does not go well with the idea that Tiber Septim was a Nord. Between this physical description and the fact that he was a native of High Rock, a much more likely explanation is that he was a Breton by race. This is all found in in-game lore. Lore found outside of the games, which you're prone to discount since you're so goddamned butthurt over Nords being cucked by recent lore developments, simply goes a little bit further by having Tiber described as being a "manmer". Even without this, the evidence is prettyclear.
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>>187167145
Well since apparently height is a strong enough indication to undo the common consensus of a person's heredity, I guess Kevin Hart is actually just a very dark Chinaman.
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>>187165962
newfag

>making mods for ui-the game is hard
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>>187167145
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20LENVOqydQ
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>>187167145
Average Nords are about 6' and average Dunmer are about 5'9". Give or take 5" (that's being generous to you, height can vary a lot more than that in actuality) it's more than plausible that any given Nord can be shorter than any given Dunmer.
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>>187167207
Who is this Kevin Hart? What elder scrolls games is he from? What race is china? Something from akaviri?
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>>187167407
>reee stop using analogies that destroy my argument
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>>187167480
How does it destroy that argument when you're comparing real life races to a magical land of elder scrolls race? Shit analogy.
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>>187167548
It's simple. I'll mirror the two arguments since apparently you're dumbfoundingly dense.

>Bretons = short
>Nords = tall
>Talos = Nord
>However, Talos is short
>Therefore, Talos is a Breton

>Chinks = short
>Blacks = tall
>Kevin Hart = Black
>However, Kevin Hart is short
>Therefore, Kevin Hart is a chinaman
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>>187167548
Does magic negate the concept of a bell curve
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but how could a nord possibly be shorter than a dunmer?
boom nordfags btfo
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>>187167672
Elder Scrolls races don't work the same as real life races, that's all I'm saying. I don't know if talos is a nord or a breton, he could be short for a nord, or average for a breton. You don't need that analogy to say that nords can be short.

>>187167673
I never said negate, but it does affect it significantly in this case.
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>>187168178
>Elder Scrolls races don't work the same as real life races
Obviously, but the concept of personal height applies to any sentient being, fantasy or real.
>You don't need that analogy to say that nords can be short.
So you admit that Hjalti's stature lends no credence to the notion that he's a Breton.
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>>187168341
I'm not the person that was arguing that, but it does lend credence if he's short and from high rock. It obviously doesn't PROVE it though.
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>>187164556
>This argument would have more controversy to it if someone had claimed that he was a Redguard -- because in that case there's no way he could have had Nord blood.

So you're telling me it's impossible for the future child of that nord guy to be blood related with him just because the mother is a redguard? That's doesn't even make sense!

Also
>elves were rapists
>implying High Rock was still controlled by the Direnni at the end of the 2 Era.
>implying officially taking women from human allies tribes to strengthen the ties with them, and educating the children (proto bretons) making them elites was "rape"
High Rock was never Ayleid Cyrodiil, and Tiber Septim was born thousands of years after all these events.
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>>187168573
It does not lend credence. The fact that he's short and from High Rock means he's short and from High Rock. It does not indicate anything about his race.
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>>187168753
It actually does indicate things about his race though. Elder scrolls races are pretty homogeneous.
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haha coming back to mod skyrim for the 30th time in my miserable life. anything interesting happen with modding in the past half year other than bethesda's reveal about the curated mods things? Vigilant got a translation right? Want to try that.
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>>187168870
We've already established that Nords can be short and Dunmer can be tall. Remember he's not short in general, just shorter than a particular Dunmer. Why are you still trying to push the silly notion that every single person of the same race are the exact same height down to the millimeter? Just because that's how it is in-game due to limitations doesn't mean that's what the lore abides by.
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>>187168612
It's more to do with the fact that Nords and Bretons both have a common ancestor, so that the lines are sometimes blurred is hardly a surprise.

Redguards, on the other hand, are not Nedic in any way, shape, or form.
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>>187073405
I've read that Convenient Horses functions completely differently on SSE. I don't know if it's better than the oldrim version, but it would be worth noting on the page if it is
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>>187168995
>Why are you still trying to push the silly notion that every single person of the same race are the exact same height down to the millimeter?
That's not the notion I'm pushing, I'm saying they CAN be shorter but it's fair to assume that they don't HAVE to have the same bellcurve as real life humans races are expected to have. You can't prove he was a nord or a breton because you can't give him a DNA test, but given that he was born in a nation of bretons and he's fairly short it's way more LIKELY that he's a breton. I don't know if the other guy was saying it's a fact or what, but this is what I'm saying.
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>>187169226
>SSE
>worth noting
no
>>187169284
Given that neither side can use in-game lore to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that he's either Breton or not, one would turn to official statements by the developer. Which in this case, happens to say that he is indeed Atmoran. You cannot refute this.
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>>187168931
>Vigilant got a translation right? Want to try that.
Yeah.
Also try Glenmoril from the same mod author.
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>>187167207
>>187167359
Barenziah. Explicitly. Refers. To. Tiber. Septim's. Height. As. Average. She. Would. Have. Referred. To. Him. As. Short. If. He. Was. A. Short. Nord. Not. As. Being. Average. Height.
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>>187169464
Average. Height. Is. Short. For. A. Nord.
Read. Between. The. Lines.
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>>187169538
>Average. Height. Is. Short. For. A. Nord.
What? Nords are tall.
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>>187169440
oh shit thats some bloodborn, neat. I was trying out special edition because it had just released, then vigilant got fully translated shortly after, but obviously required skse. gonna definitely do a classic playthrough to try all the new stuff since then.
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>>187169590
You're dealing with somebody who actually still thinks Tiber Septim was a Nord in spite of all evidence to the contrary and the fact that every TES Lore community out there accepts that he was actually a Breton. Nordfags and denial go hand in hand at this point. It's a coping mechanism for their retconned lack of relevance in Tamrielic lore.
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>>187169590
Yes. Exactly. Are you fucking retarded?
She described him as average. Not average for any race, just average. The average Nord is above the average person. If he's an average person, he is below average for a Nord. Understand? I'm explaining it to you like you're a preschooler, I sure fucking hope you understand.
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>>187169695
>despite all the evidence to the contrary
I have yet to see a single piece of evidence that could suggest he's a Breton.
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>>187169415
>>187169695
Wait hold on a second. What kind of breton is born in atmora?

>>187169725
>She described him as average. Not average for any race, just average. The average Nord is above the average person. If he's an average person, he is below average for a Nord. Understand? I'm explaining it to you like you're a preschooler, I sure fucking hope you understand.
So you're assuming she meant average height in general. There's no such thing, as every race is distinct.
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>>187169725
What a crock of shit. You keep thinking in terms of real-life disparity. Tamrielic races are different from real-life races; they have set physical characteristics such as height that are much more "locked-in" than our own human variance. The people in Tamriel do not see each other like "oh that Dunmer is a grey-skinned person, and that Khajiit is just a furry person" etc, and Barenziah would not view "average height" in the same way that you do with regards to real-life humans. What utter nonsense.
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>>187169838
>average height in general. There's no such thing, as every race is distinct.
This is really fucking terrible logic. Of course there is an average in general. There's an average for everything.
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>>187169838
>Wait hold on a second. What kind of breton is born in atmora?

Tiber Septim was not born in Atmora; that's a myth. See the links in >>187156672

The "heresy" is actually the historical account; the part about Tiber Septim being from Atmora was in-universe propaganda and makes absolutely no sense given that Atmora was a frozen wasteland by the time Tiber was born.
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>>187169887
The human races (except Redguards) are not very distinct at all.
>>187169973
No one is saying he was born in Atmora. Figures that you'd use the same flawed logic that produced "he's a Breton because he's born in High Rock."

Birghtplace != heredity. Stop being a fucking retard.
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>>187170074
>The human races (except Redguards) are not very distinct at all.

This is how I know you're looking at TES lore from an incorrect, real-life-tinged angle. Please read up on the basics.
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>>187170205
They all have a very wide range of skin tones and builds, and, as previously mentioned, heights. Not all Nords have blonde beards tied in knots. Not all Imperials have olive skin and huge schnozzes. Not all Bretons are scrawny midgets.
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>>187170074
Nords are distinct in that they're two meter tall slabs of muscle. It's Imperials and Bretons that are pretty much "average humans", though it's strange to say this of Bretons given their Mer ancestry. You'd think it would show more, but while there are many descriptions of people being immediately intimidated by the sheer size and musculature of the Nords, there's hardly ever anything said to distinguish Bretons.
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>>187170313
Again, you're under the impression that all members of the race are carbon copies of eachother. That's just a result of the limited in-game presentation. Do you think a Nord is going to be ripped if he sits on his ass and studies magic his whole life?
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>>187170291
There is simply no way that Barenziah would ever look at a Nord or any other representative of a race for that matter and think like "yeah, he's average height if you take all of the individual, distinct races in Tamriel, some of which are different species entirely, and calculate what the average of that would be". It makes no sense.
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I remember reading a while ago that mod organizer stopped being updated? Is it still viable to use for classic skyrim? Or should I use something else?
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>>187170363
No, but then he wouldn't be "average", he would be "short". Nords are very tall on average.
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>>187170363
Yes.
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>>187170478
Yes, use Mod Organizer for normal Skyrim. It's the best option.
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>>187170428
>There is simply no way
Why not? People in Tamriel, especially her, encounters every type of race on a regular basis. When you live among a collection of all the races for a long time, you obviously will subconsciously have a mental prototype for how tall the average person is. It's just how the brain works.
>>187170506
He would be average, because the average height of a person is short for a Nord.
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>>187170561
>the chad wizard
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I just downloaded moonlight tales essentials, and it won't let me pick werebear options, am I missing something or did something fuck up?

Pic unrelated.
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>>187170581
>Why not?

Because the races in Tamriel are fully distinct, separated essentially by species and sub-species, and there is no "we r all da same" mentality because they incontrovertibly are not by any measure.
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>>187170363
>in every TES game that had actual attributes Nords had the highest Strength attribute to start with, regardless of class
>higher even than Orcs
>you could be a strong Imperial, or a strong Breton, or anything else of the sort
>but there simply was no such thing as a weak Nord, even if they were a pure caster or Thief
I like to think of Nords as the human equivalent of male lions. Sit around on your ass and just yawning is enough to build copious amounts of muscle.

I feel this is possible mainly because this is fantasy and Nords are not truly "humans" as we know them, they are "the first men". In terms of strength they may as well be the missing link between apes and humanity.
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>>187169935
>Of course there is an average in general.
You can make an average of all races together, but it would make no fucking sense when high elves are tall as shit and wood elves are manlets, and they live right next to each other.

>>187170074
Yes they are wholy distinct, even breton and imperials, just as much as a high elf is different from a dunmer.

>No one is saying he was born in Atmora.
Except the ingame lore states that Tiber Septim was an Atmoran BORN in atmora by the name of Talos at the same time as he was Hjalti from the island kingdom of Alcair.

However given the fact that he has the name Hjalti, which isn't his "proper nord name" according to Heimskr and he's called Early-Beard for a reason, and it's fair to assume that the reason is because he had more beard than the ones around him and that's a distinct nord trait, it's way more likely that he is not a BRETON or a NORD or an ATMORAN only, but in fact he was first a NORD/BRETON then ATMORAN and THEN IMPERIAL. First genetically a Nord/Breton mix when he was born and given a name, second an atmora when he joined in spirits with Ysmir and therefore became Talos, and third an imperial when he created the Empire.

You absolutely can't refute this.
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>>187170757
Essentials is busted, the original works way better for me. More options too.
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>>187170793
That's false. Many races descended from common previous generation races.
>>187170807
>it's way more likely that he is not a BRETON or a NORD or an ATMORAN only, but in fact he was first a NORD/BRETON then ATMORAN and THEN IMPERIAL
Am I seriously having this conversation with someone who doesn't know the first basic thing about TES genetics? No such thing as single-generation half races.
>You absolutely can't refute this.
Just did. Now refute this:
https://www.imperial-library.info/content/letters-elder-scrolls-adventures
>Tiber Septim isn’t a Nord, he’s an Atmoran.
No one else has yet.
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>>187170949
Yeah the original stopped working for me all of a sudden and wouldn't let me change my appearance at all either. I guess I'll reinstall and see if it works again.
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So Wulf in-game is an Imperial, so actually you're both wrong he's not a Nord or a Breton.
As in-game trumps books or oog lore, I win.
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>>187171029
>Wulf in-game is an Imperial
And Ama Nin aka Mara was a redguard.
Avatars doesn't count, because a aedra/spirit can take any shape.
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UESP lists the "Tiber Septim was born in High Rock" version of the story as heresy. Dunno about you but I trust them more than a couple of Nord hating autists.
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>>187171253
>Avatars doesn't count
Unless you have ingame lore to say so, your claim is dismissed
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>>187171021
>No such thing as single-generation half races.
With the exception of Agronak gro-Malog, the Gray Prince.

>Just did
No you didn't.

>Tiber Septim isn’t a Nord, he’s an Atmoran.
Yes TIBER SEPTIM is Atmoran AND Imperial AND Breton AND Nord, because he is Talos the divine who is Ysmir(Atmoran) as he is Hjalti(High Rock breton) as he is Tiber Septim(Imperial). Hjalti however wasn't necessarily Atmoran, but Tiber Septim is, because of Ysmir.
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>>187171451
Why all the hate for Nords recently anyway?

Seeing a lot of it around these parts. Is it because they're the most Chad race choice or what?
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>>187171451
UESP is the CNN of TES lore sources.
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>>187171476
They really don't. Molag Bal has been known to appear as a woman to specific covens devoted to him that were all female.
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>>187171517
Pretty much.
>>187171531
You're thinking of the wikia. UESP is a beacon of quality. There's a reason it's linked in our OP alongside Imperial Library. Likewise, r/teslore is nowhere in sight. You should go back.
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>>187171583
I don't see a source listing any of the claims that they don't count.
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>>187171583
Actually seeing as Hjalti made himself an Imperial, it does in fact mean that it counts as Talos is ALSO an imperial. We are talking about the ORIGINS of Talos, but it is a fact that his race changed in his journey.

You seem to think that Talos was a normal man through his entire life, but he was not. He was CHIM.
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>>187171517
Also it's European time right now, so that explains it. A few hours ago there were more people arguing this on the side of reason.
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>>187171531
Reputable, unbiased, and is often cited by knowledgeable people? Indeed it is.
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i wish there was a tree replacer that got rid of this shit foliage but maintained the vanilla uv mapping
or at least something in the vanilla style
vurt's trees are shit and his work is way overrated
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>>187171517
No one hates nords. Atmoran's just aren't Nords anyway, so he is as much of a nord as he is a breton.

I find it odd that Atmorans wouldn't be giants though, as nords are the closest to them.
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>>187171824
>Atmoran's just aren't Nords anyway
They pretty much are identical in every way except their name.
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>>187171873
Oh you've seen them? Source?
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I still don't understand how Talos become so popular in Skyrim when he was pretty much ignored during ALL the Septim Empire. Even Talos priest is bitching about how nords people in FUCKING BRUMA doesn't give a fuck about Talos and are still worshipping the nord pantheon in Oblivion, and the Guide for the Empire for Morrowind state than some places in Skyrim never even heard of Tiber Septim. And 200 years laters, every nords was turned into Talos fanatics fighting for their right to praise the dude who destroyed their nord armies and conquered Skyrim while making Cyrodiil the seat of his new empire. Where is the fucking logic?

>>187171476
>Azura look like a dunmer in Morrowind
>look totally human in Daggerfall
>her Daggerfall appearance is used on the giant statue in Skyrim, even if it was build by dunmer people
>what was her appearance before she even cursed them to be dunmer?
>nah, she only had one aspect and can't change it because avatar are immuable and a god can't have many different avatars, even if that's absolutely go against the concept of "avatar" and it's not canon if I tell so beside I'm Kirkbride :^))))
Okay.
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>>187171936
Depictions of Ysgramor and accounts of their society and lives' are identical to Nords. There's also the fact that Nords descended directly from Atmorans.
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>>187171943
this is the part where he says Daggerfall isn't canon
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>>187171943
>the dude who destroyed their nord armies and conquered Skyrim
No. The Nord armies joined him out of respect for his Thu'um, recognizing him as their prophecized deliverer.
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>>187171719
>Talos decides to use ~ setrace command on himself
>leads to several hours long argument over what race he actually was on tesg
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Can we go back to talking about waifus? Lore talk creeps me out.
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>>187171451
It is considered a heresy, but it's also true. See >>187156672
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>>187172206
You have to go back.
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>>187172131
Yes, you're right. He "only" killed the bretons. Probably reachmen.
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>>187172215
You keep going "see" at your own post but that doesn't mean it's not just a propagantastic myth. It doesn't matter how many times you do it
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>>187171824
>No one hates nords. Atmoran's just aren't Nords anyway, so he is as much of a nord as he is a breton.

What do Atmorans have to do with anything? Talos definitively did not come from Atmora either way; he did come from High Rock and a fucking ghost of one of his battle companions appears in Skyrim and confirms the heretical report of Talos being a man named Hjalti from High Rock to actually be true.
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>>187172206
Waifu talk is a hell of a lot more interesting than these lorefags going round in circles.
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>>187172372
Cry more bitch
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>>187172274
Read the fucking post and visit both links. The spirit of one of the men who actually fought alongside Hjalti confirms the heretical account to be true. The "propagantastic" myth is the one where Talos somehow came from Atmora even though he was born when Atmora was an abandoned frozen shithole.
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>>187172330
More that the ghost confirms there was a man named Hjalti. Whether he was Tiber Septim or some of his accomplishments were attributed to Tiber Septim until the two were spoken of as if they were the same person is precisely the kind of dickery one would expect from The Elder Scrolls. +I think the best part of Tamriellic lore is that it's all full of shit like this that can lead to such fascinating discussions as this.
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>>187172330
>Talos definitively did not come from Atmora
He fucking did. He was the last recorded emigrant. Besides, contact was made with society in Atmora until the third era. It's not impossible at all that he was born in Atmora.
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>>187172372
>"rate my barbie"
>"what mod do"
>"fat! fat! fat!"
>interesting
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So what do you actually do in Skyrim?
Just jerk off and take screenshots?
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>>187171943
That's because of the spread of the belief that Ysmir and therefore Wulfharth and Hjalti are indeed Talos. Maybe they cared more about the Wulfharth part but came to see accept it more because of Hjalti's campaign through Skyrim to defeat the witchmen(bretons of the reach) and the need to join together to fight back against the aldmeri dominion made them accept Talos as Ysmir.

>>187171994
I guess.

>>187172330
Talos DID come from Atmora, you idiot. Hjalti who became Talos is the one who wasn't born in Atmora.

Here is a pic of Hjalti as Emperor Tiber Septim. Looks pretty nordish.
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>>187172417
>confirms the heretical account to be true
The only thing the ghost confirms is that Talos was in High Rock at one point in his life, which is true. He doesn't say jackshit about his birthplace. Try again.
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>>187172469
I'm not saying the waifu talk is interesting, just this particular brand of lore talk is about as interesting and mowing a lawn by individually cutting blades of grass.
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>>187172579
/tesg/ was never really good at doing lore talk
>waifus and lore living in harmony
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>>187172528
ye purdy much
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>>187172531
forgot pic

looks like a nord from skyrim
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>>187171504
You got that kind of wrong, Talos is Ysmir Wulfharth(Atmoran), Hjalti Early Beard aka Tiber Septim(Breton), and Zurin Arctus(Imperial)
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>>187172661
>Hjalti Early Beard aka Tiber Septim(Breton)
And people are arguing that Hjalti wasn't breton at all.
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>>187172531
http://en.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Pocket_Guide_to_the_Empire,_3rd_Edition/Other_Lands

>For hundreds of years in the Merethic Era, raiders crossed the Sea of Ghosts to invade Tamriel from the frozen lands of Atmora, becoming after generations of living in our land the Nords, Cyrodiils, and Bretons of today. The last invasion – if that is the word for two ships, largely laden with corpses, begging to make port – occurred in the 68th year of the First Era. The descriptions of the land these raiders had left changes radically over the years, leaving many to believe that it was gradually dying, smothered by frost. Expeditions to Atmora in modern times describe a place of permanent winter, with little life and no sign of human habitation. Whatever population did not succeed in fleeing to Tamriel doubtless succumbed to the ever-worsening climate many centuries ago.

http://en.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Second_Era#2E_828

Herpa-derpa-doo.
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>>187172528
Wrong. We take the screenshots first THEN we jerk off to it. I don't do that of course.
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>finally rebuilt my Skyrim before my HD took a shit on me
>want to go and try out new quests and lands from mods
>game keeps crashing randomly out of nowhere whenever I try them out

Fucking kill me

>try to mod some followers to come with some modded items so I dont have to keep spending 15min through console command
>none of the actual items are saved upon exiting CK but the new ESP is still made

Just fucking kill me.
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>>187172698
Yeah I know its just that he got the trio that makes up Talos wrong
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>>187172702
What's that supposed to imply?
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>>187171023
Yeah anytime I transform the skin just goes back to the default for whatever reason.
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>>187171504
The Gray Prince situation is complicated by vampirism and cannot be used to support crackpot theories about the phylogeny of mortals.

You also still haven't refuted the cold hardcore fact that Talos is Atmoran.
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>>187172708
That's your waifu? I thought it was one of Brave's giraffe pseudo-nips.
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>>187172756
I'm a fucking idiot, it's apparently tied to bloodmoon rising's rank system.
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>>187171763
Eh, Vurt's is fine for me. But I do remember an old version of the Ascadian Isles was just terrible.
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>>187172754
Than the White Walkers already conquered Atmora.
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>>187172754
The final recorded immigration of people from Atmora took place in Year 68 of the First Era. Tiber Septim's birth took place in the Second Era, with the common time of birth being Year 828 of the Second Era. You tell me what that implies.

The whole thing about him being from Atmora is a myth to tie Tiber Septim to some heroic legend of being the last of a dying breed of people who gave birth to all of humanity within Tamriel. It's all meant to be taken as contradictory, in-universe bunk.
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>>187172702
You conveniently left out the part about Talos sailing from Atmora in the second era and Potema's translator coming in contact with Atmorans in the third era.
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>>187172832
That's a heckin' rude thing to say.
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>>187172832
I keep hearing giraffe necks being mentioned. This a new meme? Is Brave known for giraffe necks?
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>>187172708
>those eyes

when was teh last time you saw a real person
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>>187172759
>cold hardcore fact that Talos is Atmoran.
That's because Talos wasn't just one person, but one of them was indeed born in Atmora. If he was an Atmoran born in Cyrodiil he'd just be a nord, and the guy says he ain't a nord but an Atmoran.

>>187172920
>a myth to tie Tiber Septim to some heroic legend of being the last of a dying breed of people who gave birth to all of humanity within Tamriel. It's all meant to be taken as contradictory, in-universe bunk.
No, the tie itself is not a myth. Hjalti wasn't born in Atmora, but Wulfharth was an atmoran, and Wulfharth is part of Talos. See Talos' avatar is literally named Wulf.
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>>187172976
See it for yourself.
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>>187173089
Put your trip back on
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>>187173089
>Copy that
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>>187173012
>teh
I see nothing wrong with her eyes, anon.
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>>187172934
Because it's bunk.

>>187173017
Tiber Septim, the man, the aspect that become Emperor, was born in High Rock and was almost certainly a Breton. This is what we're talking about in particular, not Talos.

But even if we look at Talos, no part of him is a Nord. You have Wulfharth, who was Atmoran (Atmorans eventually split off and lent their ancestry to Imperials, Nords, and Bretons according to some lore, but Nords themselves obviously did not exist at this time), Zurin, who was an Imperial, and Hjalti Early-Beard, who was in all likelihood a Breton.
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>>187172708
those eyebrows tho
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>>187173349
I like it better than the "713-714" eyebrows that I used for the previous iteration.
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>>187173278
>Zurin
I don't thikn he's include in Talos. Wasn't his soul in the Mantella for controlling the Numidium? Wasn't he be turned into some kind of lick, the Under king, and only died after the events of Daggerfall?
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>>187173278
Do you call every lore source that proves you wrong bunk? You can't cherrypick whatever the fuck you want.
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>>187173486
>kind of lick
LICH. I MEAN LICH.
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>>187173532
I call every lore source that is meant to be taken as incorrect bunk, yes. Because that's what it's there for. To give the impression that historians within the TES universe are prone to providing misinformation to promote agendas or because their own view of their universe's history is muddled much like our own can be.
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>>187173486
He is part of Talos if you believe that the undead King Wulfharth granted Tiber Septim the Thu'um. This is false obviously.
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>>187173584
Why is it misinformation? Because it proves you wrong? I can just as easily dub whatever I want as misinformation, but I don't because I accept what the lore is trying to tell me. You on the other hand pick and choose lore to back your personal theories.
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I want to lick a lich!!!
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>>187173451
>>187173193
Why do Asians have soulless black eyes?
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>>187173278
>Tiber Septim, the man, the aspect that become Emperor, was born in High Rock and was almost certainly a Breton.
And that aspect became very assimilated to Wulfharth in soul. They were also both dragonborn with shards of Akatosh. The same reason that ghost confuses you with Hjalti, because of your SOUL and the same likely reason Talos ascended the way he did.

>But even if we look at Talos, no part of him is a Nord.
Except I never said he was a nord.

>>187173602
It isn't false. Talos' aspect is named Wulf even. And they did meet.
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>>187173721
Gross.
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Hi

what mods to I need to play a cute pretty boy mage?
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>>187173486
Hjalti (now under the name Tiber Septim) and Zurin discovered how to power the Numidum. Tiber Septim tricked Wulfharth into meeting with him, and then had Zurin soul-trap him. However, Zurin is killed by Wulfharth in the process and their souls merge together (they were both Shezzarines) and this merging creates the Mantella. Tiber Septim then uses the mantella to power the Numidium and conquer Tamriel. Eventually, Tiber dies, and eventually, Wulfharth's body revives and searches for his soul. Daggerfall's hero recovers The Mantella and Wulfharth can finally die. The Merged Wulfharth/Zurin soul then merges with Tiber Septim's, and these souls along with remnants of Lorkhan, merge together to form Talos.
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Some post the Morrowind mod doc pls
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>>187173779
So what if his aspect is named Wulf? He can call himself whatever he wants to. The story about Zurin and Wulfharth killing eachother is obvious falsehood.
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>>187173970
>The story about Zurin and Wulfharth killing eachother is obvious falsehood.
Right. This is in no way arbitrary.
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>>187173721
Good luck
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>>187174020
Recorded history states Tiber Septim and Wulfharth didn't meet. The oversoul theory is just a theory, fueled by the far fetched heresy present in one book.
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>>187174095
>The oversoul theory is just a theory, fueled by the far fetched heresy present in one book.

That book is the only account of the life of Tiber Septim supported by other in-game accounts, such as the spirits of people who actually fought alongside Tiber Septim. It's heretical because it contradicts the official Imperial account which in itself is contradicted by the universe's timeline, but that doesn't make it incorrect. It's like how, for a time, claiming that the Earth was round was heretical. The Arcturian Heresy has the most going for it being the accurate account by far.
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>>187174095
Recorded history states that Hjalti learned the Thu'um from Wulfharth, and in daggerfall the underking and the mantella are a real thing.
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>>187174095
>The oversoul theory is just a theory, fueled by the far fetched heresy present in one book.
The idea that children are always the race of the mother is a loosely-supported theory present in one book yet people treat it as gospel
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>>187172896
i'd appreciate his replacers more if they departed from the vanilla style less. they all make vvardenfell too verdant, mess with its sense of scale or introduce weird shit like baobabs in the grazelands.
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>>187174217
No, that's the heresy.
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>>187174246
>The idea that children are always the race of the mother is a loosely-supported theory present in one book yet people treat it as gospel
>who is the Grey Prince
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>>187174272
So you're roleplaying as an imperial citizen then? Because the book being called heresy makes no difference.

Also that doesn't dispute what I said about daggerfall having the underking.
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>>187174246
It's not loosely supported, it's a rule supported by the lack of half breeds in existence, minus a handful of exceptions to the rule who all came about by extraneous circumstances.
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>>187174270
I just use his ashlands and bitter coast replacers personally

imo those don't depart from vanilla too drastically
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>>187174246
It's a HUGE thing about the lore for the Bretons. It's litterally how they were create.
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>>187174272
>the book is titled heresy so it must not be canonically true
Where on the spectrum do you lie, anon

>>187174367
You know as well as I do that that's because of game limitations, anon
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>>187174367
Yes, the Gray Prince is pretty much an orc, since his mother was an orc, but he is gray because his father was a vampire, which is in some ways a race of its own, and the relation of Vampires to molag bal made his genes have the tiniest bit of dominance necessary to make his skin pale.
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>>187174349
Tiber Septim learning the Thu'um from the greybeards is supported by both recorded history and the greybeards themselves. I don't have to roleplay to see which version of the story is more concrete. Also UESP agrees with me.
The Underking's appearance in Daggerfall does nothing to support his alleged contact with Tiber Septim.
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>>187174334
the grey prince is an orc, like his mother

he's just pale and greyish, which lines up with the book saying that mixed race kids can have traits of the father

he doesn't have vampire eyes, a weakness to sunlight, the need to drink blood, etc

idk why people shit themselves over B-BUT THE GREY PRINCE when he's a perfect example of what that book is talking about
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>tfw the only person here who plays the game
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>>187174414
Sure, but then there could be loads of half breeds that exist in oog lore. Except there aren't.
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>>187174494
>Also UESP agrees with me.
You know you're talking about the same UESP that considers everything in ESO canon
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>>187174552
>there could be loads of half breeds
There could be some, but I'd imagine they'd still be relatively rare, and why bring them up in the OOG lore when it would just call attention to the lack of them in-game?
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>>187174512
I actually think his greyish tint is because of the vampirism of his father, not because of his imperial ancestry. Vampirism sitll a cursed disease, it's not impossible it can affect how a kid will look, even if he doesn't have himself vampirism from his "undead" parent.
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>>187174414
Tell me how do you think it would go if you were a real life historian in a debate and you pick up a book that says HERESY on the cover in big letters and you start citing passages from the book as fact.
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>>187173929
which one
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>>187174535
Adventure won't play itself!
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>>187174585
ESO is canon. I don't necessarily like it but I'm not autistic enough to think my opinion matters more than the company that makes the games.
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>>187174692
You do know "heresy" is a religious term, right? If your History book is the Bible, well, it explains a lot...
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>>187174692
I think it would go just fine seeing as I would be in a debate with historians, not theologians
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>>187174784
>Heresy
>opinion profoundly at odds with what is generally accepted.
Its origins are religious but the word has been generalized as such for aeons.
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>>187174535
I'm re-installing.
That's why I asked about the mage-thing.
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>>187174762
>the company that makes the games
ESO and the rest of the TES series are made by different companies. Zenimax just owns the two of them.
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>>187174714
I'll show you adventure if you know what I mean
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>>187174905
Bethesda says ESO is canon.
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>>187174929
That would sure be interesting seeing as how ESO blatantly contradicts Bethesda's canon at multiple points
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>>187174929
>tfw bethesda ruined their best rpg series by making an mmo
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>>187174985
>>187174989
That's why I said I don't like it. It's still true though, we don't have to like it.
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>dips to 45 in falkreath on my brand new high-end graphics card
I have an an intense enb and a bunch of graphical mods, but it's still only in 1080p 60hz with vsync
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>>187174985
Every elder scrolls contradicts the previous one, that's hardly an argument.
But I don't think Bethesda has said it's canon. They haven't said it's not canon, and they purposefully had it set in a time the canon hasn't really talked about, and the only one to my knowledge saying anything about canon is some pr tweet.
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>>187174929
>implying bethesda has any creative authority when a ghoul can live in a fridge for 200 years
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>>187174494
Except Wulfharth was summoned by the Greybeards time and time again through Shor, and Tiber Septim is of the same kind as Wulfharth. Talos mantled Lorkhan(Shor), and Wulfharth is an avatar of Shor too. A shezarrine. You are one too, in Skyrim, though you aren't Talos. Wulfharth on the other hand, is.

Also one of the official people of the game said Tiber Septim was an Atmoran, not a nord or a breton. See https://www.imperial-library.info/content/letters-elder-scrolls-adventures
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>>187175046
Closed City Falkreath mod when?
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ESO being canon doesn't really change anything anyways.
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>>187175121
I agree that Tiber Septim was an Atmoran. That contradicts the story of Hjalti meeting Wulfharth however.
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>>187175046
>I have an an intense enb and a bunch of graphical mods
It's gonna dip with Skyrim solely due to how unoptimized the game is.
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>>187175184
Autismo was just trying to use it as a cheap attempt to discredit UESP
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>>187175203
That does not contradict Hjalti meeting Wulfharth in any way.
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>>187175046
enjoy your copy of windows 10
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Im a loser for actually playing the game ;_;
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>>187174985
It's called retcons, guy. It sucks but you gotta learn to live with them.
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>>187175273
Said the autismo trying to use a book's title as a cheap attempt to discredit its contents
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>>187175454
The whole thing about him being Hjalti in the first place comes from the same exact source saying that he comes from High Rock and not Atmora. If we accept that any aspect of Talos came from Atmora, that would be Wulfharth, but he was a different man than Tiber Septim/Hjalti.
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>>187175678
>The whole thing about him being Hjalti in the first place comes from the same exact source saying that he comes from High Rock and not Atmora.
No, Hjalti was a Shezarrine as seen in old hroldan ghost, and did indeed become Tiber Septim. TIBER SEPTIM came from Atmora, not just Talos in general.

http://en.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:The_Ghost_of_Old_Hroldan

So you can't say that he wasn't Atmoran when Tiber Septim is indeed Hjalti.

By accepting that Wulfharth is a part of Talos you also have to accept that Wulfharth did indeed meet with Tiber Septim, and in other words Hjalti, and that they are both Shezarrine who joined together in soul for being aspects of Shor. The Arcturian Heresy makes sense.
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>>187175464
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how do i increase the distance dof will focus on an object?
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>tfw people laugh at me on steam for playing Skyrim unironically
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>>187176251
>having steam friends
you brought it on yourself normie
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>>187176282
I-I tell them its really modded to make myself look better ;-;
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>>187176251
Skyrim is like one of the most normie RPGs out there, why the fuck are they laughing?
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>>187176343
Because they are all from 4chan and not normies.
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I will PLAY Skyrim Special Edition and none of you can stop me!
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>>187176251
yeah same, thats why i always "play" in offline mode. If im online and launch steam, i get like 3 messages in 3 seconds.
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>>187176535
Whats special about it?
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>>187176581
>"play"
What did he mean by this
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we ded
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>>187176796
Yes. Page 10 reached, just let /tesg/ fade into Oblivion...
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>>187176796
THANKS LOREFAGS
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>>187176535
Cool, enjoy the lack of mods.

>>187176865
>>187176868
We hit the bump limit a while ago and the thread's been autosaging, make a new thread.
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Why do people reply to Cumtears now again?
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>>187177039
No I shall not make a new thread someone else will do it for me.
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New bread >>187177372
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>>187174695
The googledoc one, surprised it's not in the op
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>>187180389
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1UobmRY-c6HkjSwBMxUGMKRTNANURMbifr3LYRnucN_c/edit
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