/scg/edg/ Star Elite: Citizen Dangerous General #192

>>is there a /scg/ org?
>http://steamcommunity.com/groups/vederation
fuck off plex

You're not going to win this, plexie-kun.

>>187051271
the rules are on my side shill and for the nth time I'm not that literal furfaggot. Make your own NMS general if there are so many of you that want to talk about it.

>>187051380
>shill
kek
Also
>postcount doesn't rise
at least change your IP, plex.

>it's a Vederation episode

No thank you. Ved is cancer.

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You're all so childish, make your own thread. It isn't hard. This isn't you schools where is you "protest" long enough you just get handed what you want.

Is there any more solid data on the Origin 600$ yet?

>>187052213
>shitposter is asking about buying a 600 dollar-doo jpeg
Welp, that explains a lot. It's not a dad; just a cultist.

>>187051841
/scg/ has existed since like Nov or Dec 2012, in some form or another. I have been here since then. I wasn't in the first threads but I was in the first couple weeks.

>>187051770
Why would that make me a hypocrite? I'm an SC poster not an /edg/elord.

>>187052327
>>187052327
>>187052461

>poster count doesn't rise
nice false flag dad
sage

>>187052521
gee maybe thats because a couple faggots are spamming sages, throwing a tantrum because they're not getting their way.

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>>187052606
>throwing a tantrum

You're not seeing the slightest bit of irony here, are you?

>>187052689
I'm not the one coming into an existing thread and making self serving demands. I am the one resisting unjustified demands. There is no tantrum being thrown on my part, I am simply not giving you what you are demanding without right.

>>187052606
You cant stand the fact that there's more than just a few who want NMS plax

>>187052801
Thank you for being the official spokesperson of /scg/, faggot.

>>187052834
then make you own thread, nothing stops you. Why are you obsessed with hijack this thread for your game.
This is /scg/edg/ a snarrow focus, specific thread for two extremely similar games, which has existed for years. This is not NMSG, go make nmsg.

>plaxinov in full autistic fury over inane shit

everything is per usual

>>187053527
Thanks for bumping my thread but I'm still not plaxinov.

>>187053527
Don't give him reasons to bump his shit thread via autism. Just make a new general; there's literally 6 fucking people in this one and it's slow as fuck due to fear of autistic screaming.

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I like posting this image.

Reminds me how big elite ships are and how they don't feel big since you're staring out of the cockpit all the time. Why even bother making them so big in the first place then?

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No man's sky general!

>>187053718
They seem about the same size to me.

What do the four galaxy choices in the NMS ending do? If it's a reset, do I get to keep my shit like a new game plus? Or is everything wiped?

I don't even care about planets and shit. I just want to be a space trucker with some fps here and there. MAKE IT HAPPEN WOBBETS

>>187053627
>>187053627
>>187053627
improved thread 100% less furfags

>>187054609
That will hopefully be playable in sc fairly soon. Mechanics of space truckery are mostly sreaightforward, though I'm sure CIG will find some way to delay it and concept out three more spacetruck jpegs during the process.

>>187051108
E:D OP still needs an Update, please reply to OP with E:D related information the belongs there so It can be included in the next OP, I've been copy pasting the same E:D information for like six months.

>>187054976
>>187055083
There's a point where you have to stop, plex.

>>187055204
And you have long passed it.

Hopefully there will be something worth getting hype over on friday, I want to be hype for SC again but it's been so long since anything worth it was delivered.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b7DrujYJ1yg&t=495s

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>>187051108

>>187057008
Yes, CIG are incompetent kikes who both cant set or hit realistic release targets and also muddle those targets further by letting marketing dept fucking with dates too. We know.

>>187058112
Blame Chris.

>>187059231
Im beginning to.
At first I blamed sandi and ben entirely, but he keeps tolerating it when its become very clear the damage their ideas have caused.

I have a feel that the GaymesCON presentation on Friday is gonna be lackluster and half of it is gonna be their austimo spectrum shit... AGAIN.

>>187061361
Lackluster and full of tall tales about Capital ship battles before the end of 2017.

>>187061361
If they don't fuck it up with hardware/access issues and don't agressively sanitize private channels, I think spectrum actually has the potential to be very cool/useful software. It has the Cross platform connectivity of Battle.net, which as much as the rest of blizz is going down the toilet, the ability to always get in contact with someone via B.net is great, better even than steam for contacts, spectrum looks to be even better in that regard than B.net with web integration on top of game and mobile, Like EVE, in SC being able to always get in contact with org members will be highly important, and unlike EVE we won't need to share cell numbers with people to do it becasue everyone can just have something logged in on the spectrum chat app. Combine that with the multumedia functionality of Discord, which spectrum will have, and you have the recipe for an actually good integrated game comms platform.

While most of spectrum's content is unregulated autism, the underlying software itself does look promising to the point where I don't dread them talking about it. It has potential.

So can someone summarise what in the actual fuck we got out gamescom?

>>187062182
It ain't over yet bud.
The real stuff comes outta the presentation of Croberts taking stage on Friday.

>>187062182
Nothing at all yet.
Stuff we already knew about. The new stuff will be friday.

>>187062232
>>187062289
Thanks. Would explain why I cannot find anything on plebbit and I dont want to visit the spectrum.

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>>187062384
Why wouldn't you want to officially put yourself on the spectrum, anon?

Maybe we'll get to so some of the new infantry weapons on friday, supposedly F42 has been churning em out.

>>187062974
No one gives a shit about the fucking guns, motherfuckers here and there want motherfucking 3.0 but we ain't gonna get it until we reach 200 million are we??

>>187063106
I give a shit about the guns....One of the key things that separates SC from E:D is infantry combatand space legs eheheh. And the promise of seamless space to atmo to ground travel and combat is one of SC's biggest selling points.

>>187063381
star marine is shit. they don't have the mechanics to make it fun to do boarding action. they have a mediocre call of duty game where you die in ~5 hits

>>187063381
Pretty Jpeg guns are shit if there's no fucking gayme god fucking dammit.

>>187063458
You're not wrong, but the ground game will get boring realy fast if theres only like 6 jpeg guns in it. Imagine if in 3.0 there was only AR, Laser AR, Laser Marksmans rifle, Plasma shotgun and two pistols, like in SM right now. It would suck balls,and one of the(several) reasons SM sucks balls is because of that very same lack of loadout variation.

>>187063560
Trust me, anyone with a fucking brainstem could live with the old shitty lookin' guns if the rest of 3.0 is there and actually fucking works.
But fuck it, none of the shit matters until we actually get to sit down with the shit.

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>>187062974
>Why wouldn't you want to officially put yourself on the spectrum, anon?
The same reason I dont fill my foreskin with broken glass then then hit my dick with a hammer.
>Maybe we'll get to so some of the new infantry weapons
>That pic
>angled magazine
>that close to ejector port
What in the absolute fuck?!? Who would be that fucking retarded to design that?
>Sarah
Oh... nevermind

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>>187063703
theres not just reworked old guns coming though, theres actual new guns too. the gemini manufacturer is supposedly being fast tracked with like 5 different guns, the P8 series I think will be in 3.0 and the Kastak guns are either done or near done. Stuff like Pic related gives my inner /k/ommando a massive hardon.

>>187063917
So we'll have a huge range of shittily designed but cool looking guns and no game to fire them in...

WHY EVEN LIVE?

>>187063854
>The same reason I don't fill my foreskin with broken glass then then hit my dick with a hammer.
I guess sarcasm doesn't translate well in text. I'm an org leader with like 40 actual non spam invited active members and I never EVER post on spectrum. We do have our own forums and TS though since we existed in other games prior to SC.

Just to play devil advocate here, it could be a caseless gun, making the ammo smaller, with rounds stacked parallel to the barrel ina staggered readward column like steps. Its would be over complicated and violate a lot of engineering principles, but it could work. I'm sure someones made mag that way not that it would ever be an actual good idea.

>>187064123
There will be planetside, 0g and ship to ship things to do in 3.0, and we wont have any of this shit till 3.0 at the earliest anyway.

I'm just trying to find something to be mildly excited about man, it's hard right now.

>>187064168
>Caseless

Then your gun melts.

>>187064259
The 'blackpill' here is that we'll have to wait for 3.1 before we can actually play with friends without it being a goddam cluster fuck and lawd only knows when 3.1 will rear it's fucking head 18 months MINIMUM after 3.0's release.

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>>187064290
nonsense. this is the future

>>187064339
Thermodynamics just up and decides to fuck off in the future?

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I'm at the booth.

>>187064290
All that exposed metal and weird circle shit on gemini guns are a MUH FUTUR cooling system, to deal with exactly that(heat dissipation in SPESS) issue.

I hope that all these tiny ass buttons they're putting into cockpits can be hotkeyed so I don't have to try to find them with a mouse every time.

>>187064460
>two barreled gun
>heat from bullets charges maser

>>187064398
no but the unobtanium we found on planet magicmetalistan is a thermal superconductor and when combined with the rare high density supercapacitor handwavium of the FREEDOM GROUP asteroid belt lets us create a compact heat capture and ejection system which allows us to fire near indefinitely in vacuum while also [s]double[/s] tripling the price.

>>187064415
Hurl some mashed potatoes at Homeless Santa!

>>187064508
this idea is good too.

>>187063917
>Stuff like Pic related gives my inner /k/ommando a massive hardon.
and by that you mean you're a no-guns shit that posts on /k/, and think that design is good

>>187064415
>1 vagina in entire picture
looks legit

>>187064890
I literally have like 30 rifles in my house.
Who wouldnt want a hand held drum fed minigun?
Who care if it magdumps in 2 seconds or barely aimed ineffective fire, those two seconds would be AWESOME.

>>187064901
I see at least two.

>>187064721
Must be the same shit that lets ED ships fly right into the atmosphere of a fucking star.

>>187064965
>Who wouldnt want a hand held drum fed minigun?
That design?
Anyone that knows how miniguns work
Anyone that knows how sight radius works
Anyone that knows how weight works
and
>>>>>>>thumbhole stock

>>187065010
I really wish the heat of stars would be more pronounced in elite. you have to be right up in their ass for it to matter.

>>187064994
that longhair at the back could just be a hippy midget guy. though in saying that the one sitting at a pc wearing female clothes could also be a guy it is in germany after all.

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>>187064901
>>187064994

>>187065038
its year 2948 dude it just works

>>187065131
right is clearly a guy. I think the "pink" shirt is just a white or beige one discoloured by the shitty phone camera.

>>187065131
i think the middle is a guy
a guy with a ponytail would be not at all out of place at a german gaming convention

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>>187065038
You're not wrong. I'm just giving SCs guns a little bit of a tech pass becasue they're clearly at least trying to stay plausible with the ballistics mechanical function.

The better question is when are we going to get high power semi-automatics, either ballistic or laser. I want a las rifle with power packs that recharge in the sun dammit.

>>187065272
Jaw shape is feminine, or just like the most unfortunate guy ever. One of my sisters has a fairly similar face shape.

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Getting closer

>>187065536
is it just going to be the same deathmatch map again?

>>187066010
Wat

>>187066115
yesterday it was just random deathmatch on an empty bit of desert

>>187066294
Its the surface and orbit Daymar, do whatever the fuck you want "mode"

>>187066373
>do whatever you want
the only thing you can do is deathmatch and find physics bugs

>>187063917

Gemini is expensive AF.

>thats what they told

Can star marine be used to farm uAC and REC or whatever currencies you guys have? Or is that just a thing of races?

>>187051380

>oh look, this crap again

M8. Interference will be minimum and you will only see it for the following 4 - 5 threads tops. It quickly fades away after patches. That game begins to suck after some hours due to the grind. People get tired easily.

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(Wake me up inside)

>>187066815
>Can star marine be used to farm uAC and REC or whatever currencies you guys have? Or is that just a thing of races?

aUEC is used for the PU only, repairs and re-buying destroyed ships and such.

REC is for renting equipment and ships, can earn that in any multiplayer ship mode like VS/PS/BR/SB combat or racing

You don't earn anything in Star Marine.

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>+1 for best farmer

>>187067056
How do you figure? that cant hardly kill anything. Hows that better at farming than a Superhornet or sabre, which can just quickly and reliably murder whatevers in front of it.

SC looks pretty fun with planets and other players desu. I can only hope they have some decent missions, anti air units and stuff so you can do milsim stuff

>>187068229
>milsim stuff
actually end yourself, anon.

>>187068307
uhhhhhh literally the whole SQ42 and most of SC lore is military shit

>>187067875
M50 is the best REC farmer in racing, by a lot. The 350r is almost as fast, but a lot larger and harder to fly.
You can make your re-rental in around a hour and stack ridiculous REC in a week long rental.

>>187068560
Thats not milsim though you dope

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>they literally patched it overnight (78 GB) to show off re entry effects

>>187069215
>78GB
Is that from the stream?

>>187069215
They desperately need to figure out how to patch the game without requiring a re-download.

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Ok I'm done playing.
Nox is broken and falls over when you enter, but it rights itself when you start it up. Didn't get to check out the Cutlass, but the Ursa and Nox are pretty cool. Nox drifts too much though and feels a bit too floaty. Railgun is fun and kills an Aurora LN in 3 shots to the cockpit, starting at full shields. Outpost looks neat. The laser repeaters got a redesign, but I didn't find out if they upped the weapon sizes on the Gladius.

>>187069513
>Nox is broken
I'll just file that under "Shit we already knew"

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>that atmospheric flight

No

>X is broken
I'll just file that under "Shit we already knew"

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>>187070031
>>187070090
>"Shit we already knew" mind

>>187069513
lemme know if they let you play a demo of a build that isnt 4-5 months old

>>187070260
how do you know it is?

>>187063917
>get kicked off /k/ for shit taste
>show up in /scg/ to post some terribad bordlands tier design from the creative mind of some other noguns faggot

>Pets – We have repair bots, we have fish… but we haven’t implemented a traditional pet system in Star Citizen yet. At $64 million, that changes. From Jones the Cat in Alien to the Battlestar Galactica’s Daggit, pets have a place onboard starships… and we want to give you that option in Star Citizen. Expect traditional terrestrial options, plus anything exotic we can dream up in the Star Citizen universe! (Those Torshu Grey crabs that keep escaping are just the start.) This stretch goal is in honor of Paddington, Strike Dog of the UEES Paul Steed. In one of our first videos Paddington helped us get to $4 million back in the initial campaign, and sadly passed away recently.
When will I get to travel the stars with my Doge?

>>187070375
>flying cats in ED never

>>187070375
>>187070717
>tfw will never see a cat inverted by 30Gs of lateral acceleration, turned into a fine paste against the 300i's luxury windshield

>>187070832
I would actually spend more money on SC if it was going towards that.

honestly im excited. i want to see real gameplay though, the proper universe, not just a test server. even then, it looks pretty fun. gunplay and ships and shit, how you can walk around in fight etc
this reminds me a bit of arma 2 armory

but fuck me i want to see the 3.0 PU so bad now

>QT is disabled because 3.0 isn't ready
>yes it is!
>not even in evocati

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>that TTK

>>187072857
>actually watching the stream

>>187064721
>Magic superconductor alloy for guns
>Every ship needs giant wings as "radiators" nonetheless

>>187072804
He meant that QT works but the reason they are doing this is to keep everyone in one playground. It makes sense, really all there is in other places is more of the same, we've already seen QT work countless times.

>>187073231
The wings aren't radiators though. They're just wings.

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>go full speed from orbit into the ground
>ship just bumps off the surface and stops, everything is fine

>>187073430
You were expecting a space engineers style crater and half destroyed ship embedded into the ground?

>>187073597
I think he was reasonably expecting for the ship to explode or be damaged like it should after flying full force into rock

>>187070375
>travelling the stars at all
Never ever

>>187073597
Are you stupid or just pretending?

main presentation is tommorow?

>>187073997
Yes, and I wouldn't miss it for the world

>>187073362
I could swear heat sinks was one of the excuses given for all the space plane designs in SC.

>>187073238
No one's doubting that QT works. It obviously does, but if 3.0 is done, as they have been claiming since it's supposedly not the reason for QT being disabled, why isn't 3.0 in evocati?

>>187074226
yeah I dont want to miss the lie fest and CRs face when he has to annouce 3.0 again

Will there be a sale on Friday with more limited ships?

Need to pick up a gladiator upgrade

>>187074263
That was just theorycrafting. On the Aurora and Hornet I know you used to be able to remove them and were little rectangular components about twice the size of a phone book.

>>187074263
Radiators would be stupid because there's nothing to really radiate into in space. Every reason for space wings I've seen given is that there's atmospheric flight and that ships with more aerodynamic designs would have an advantage in atmosphere.

>>187074301
I could see wanting to push 3.0 straight out to the public at or after the presentation.
or it could already be out and its been kept secret.

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T-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-th-th-that's all, f-f-f-folks! B-b-b-b-basically.

>>187074516
They exist on all ships, anon.
http://starcitizendb.com/components/cooler

They're not radiatiors as such and are fuuuutuuuure active cooling components, but they exist.

>>187074226
>3.0 by Christmas
>2.7
>2.8 March of next year
>3.0 July 2018
>start delaying until GamesCon
>repeat
At some point we have to run out of 2.X releases, right?

>>187074463
>Need to pick up a gladiator upgrade
why

>>187074516
>radiate into in space
does it work that way? honest question

>>187074598
>2.9.9.5 out by October!

>>187074623
because I melted mine a while ago and want it back.

I own a Cutlass Red right now and will sit on the Gladiator upgrade until I can get my hands on the NuCutlass and find out what they are doing to the Red.

>>187074534
The problem is there release cycle has an extensive private testing phase, so they'd either have to say 3.0 is ready but only for a select few, or break their release cycle and blatantly show they're hyping the game for marketing instead of "including gamers in the development promise" like they've said they would do.

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>>187074651
yes

>>187074301

3.0 is clearly not fully ready yet for even evocati. The stream proves that besides still being great. Let's have something playable for once.

>>187074651
space is a highly effective insulator. Radiators work by heating up surrounding air or at the very least particles around them, which don't exist in space, so theres very little to transfer heat to.

>>187074735
It works but they're very slow. Not nearly enough if anything on the ISS was generating serious amounts of heat like an engine

>>187074735
so if I have my shit in a vacuum, it'll just stay warm?

>>187074801
most rockets are self cooling since they expel the heat into space with the propellant

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Pretty cool

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>>187074854
Not quite.

>>187074817
it'll cool by radiation and evaporation, if any liquids are present. space would feel quite cold for this reason, most of the liquid on your skin would boil off quickly, taking heat with it. evaporation cools quickly, i.e. sweat, dousing yourself on a hot day etc. radiation cools very slowly.

>>187074651
No, that's my point. Radiators work by creating a large surface for heat to dissipate from into another medium that's, ideally, moved over the radiator. But in the near vacuum of space, there's not really anything to run over the radiator and dissipate heat into. Internal radiators would make sense, with an internally stored substance that is pumped over the radiators and discharged into space.

Regardless, there's a number of reasons for wings. Atmospheric is the most common reason I've seen. More space to store components is also valid, or fuel tanks, or weapon mounts. They'd also serve to move thrusters away from the center of mass of the ship in an efficient manner.

>>187074869
they truly are masters of making these promotional vids these jpgs aint gonna sell themselves

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>>187074869
>those animations at 0:37

>>187074924
that's just to prevent the nozzle from melting. the excess heat still goes into the fuel and is expelled at the end.

>>187074712
>break their release cycle and blatantly show they're hyping the game for marketing instead of "including gamers in the development promise" like they've said they would do
but breaking their release cycle would also be keeping the promise? obviously it would be buggy as hell, in a sense, still keeping people very involved with the development. and they sure as hell aren't marketing it like they used to.

>>187074817
It'll be extremely "hot" if exposed to a star at earth like distances, extremely "cold" if in the shadow of a planet or inbetween solar systems. Massive temperature variation

S42 vertical slice this year?

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>>187074974
space radiators work by IR radiation
there's a water flow connecting heat sources to the radiators and the water convects the heat to the panels which emit IR into space.

>>187075063
>extremely "cold" if in the shadow of a planet or inbetween solar systems
but I thought the heat won't dissipate in the vacuum?

>>187075063
Uhm, no sweetie. We're talking about ship cooling, so the heat comes from components, so the sun has little to do with it.

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>they're now planning to add showering and hunger mechanics

>early access
>procedural generation
>base building already confirmed
>survival mechanics
You can't make this shit up, holy shit.

>>187075242
>Surface of the ISS gets to +/-150 degrees celcius
>hurr the sun has no effect
>we're talking about magical handwavium components

>>187075254
Elite isn't a speed boat.
It's more like a pedalo

>>187069354
Just like the rest of 3.0, the delta patcher is almost done. Just like it has been for the last 4 months.

>>187075254
They've really gone full retard. The game's been hijacked by retarded immersion fags.

>>187075254
Pretty sure they said any RP stuff like that is entirely optional

>>187075492
He just fucking said you need to do that because without food you'll die and without showering NPCs might not want to talk with you

>>187075254
>SC backers wanting ED to fail
Pretty sure that's the other way around.

>>187075598
On stream? I'm not watching it because I have waaay better things to do than watch a 15 minute loop with those horrible personalities

>>187075682
Yes, Erin speaking.

>>187075254
>>187075598
Are you new? Lite-RP shit has always been on the table.
Many things have said and nothing has been implemented.

Remember when beds were supposed to be important?
Toilets and kitchens are just RP fluff that have zero consequence on gameplay.

>>187074463
Probably just the 600 plus maybe the prospector, 85x, m50 and 350r.

>>187075752
>Lite-RP
It's not LITE anymore you fool. Erin just said that showering and hunger will be a core part of exploration in SC now. No food? You die. No shower? NPCs treat you like shit or don't talk if they're royalty or whatever.

>>187075752
>having to take showers and eat in a video game about space ships
>light roleplaying
lol
>you need to eat food
>you need to drink water
>you need to shower or NPCs won't talk to you
Literally just said by Erin.

>>187075905
Yep, just rewinded it and listened to it. Fucking stupid.

>>187075845
>>187075905
Those things have always been talked about and brought up. Erin is saying nothing new and none of those things have ever been hinted at being implemented.

>B-but he said it!!!!!
Like I said with the whole 'Beds are important!' thing, A lot of things have been said. That doesn't mean they are going to be a thing.

>>187074869
>Ad for land rover
>Never actually shows the vehicle moving

>>187075975
Its always been said that it was entirely optional. He very clearly said they're tying it into the health and stamina system, not some "yeah we'll look into it" pipedream from 2014 like you're making it out to be.

>>187075975
>Those things have always been talked about and brought up.
And they were always RP related. Now they're making these systems a part of game's core gameplay. Do you understand the words coming out of my mouth? Do you understand the difference between imagining that you're shitting in the game and actually shitting in the game?

>>187076061
>Do you understand the difference between imagining that you're shitting in the game and actually having to shit in the game?
ftfy

>psyched about SC to cruise around the stars and shoot things
>now it's all about the eating shitting showering refueling meta
Feels bad man. I can't even remember what the game was supposed to be like in 2012 anymore.

>>187076060
>>187076061
Idk, sounds to me like it'll be something like PUBG, where eating restores your stamina/rate of stamina recovery.

I'd be fine with that.
Plus, it's not like this is the first survival thing in the game, Oxygen and Fuel are already a limited resource.

>>187076295
>Oxygen and Fuel are already a limited resource.

Yes which is why we don't need three more fucking things to keep track of

>>187076419
I'm not keen on whatever 'hygiene' mechanic they are talking about but a basic food/stamina mechanic is fine to me.

It'll make actions more deliberate and meaningful.
Assuming you don't have to eat every 5 seconds.

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Man, this interview was the most disappointing thing about SC in a while. They're really building up a game I'm not even sure I want to play now.

>>187076787
>spend thousands on a game to fly spaceships
>spend 95% of in game time watching a QT animation, eating, shitting, refueling, and showering

>>187076787
I told you about the middle aged dads

$6 million budget would have been for gamers. now it's for the same crowd that spends thousands on yokes to play FSX with realtime 6 hour flights pretending to be a commercial airline pilot.

>>187076732
Having to refuel your ship is a meaningful mechanic that even has a ship role around it. Its not comparible to taking a shower, stop it.

I don't play video games to do daily tasks like basic hygiene.

>>187077098
I never said I liked the Hygiene shit, I don't want to take a shower either but I'm cool with some sort of food mechanic to boost/restore stamina.

Fucking hell, you guys are so fucking pedantic.

>>187073721
Turn the shields off

>>187077206
>you guys are so fucking pedantic.
kys

theres nothing interesting about making sure your body has nutrients, either. Its pointless busywork.

>>187077218
The prospector has a bubble shield. The windshield hit the planet and nothing happened, cultist.

>>187074651
Yes, thermal energy can travel across vaccum, and radiators in vaccum work just fine

if it couldn't, our planet would be an iceball as the sun wouldn't be ablento warm us

>>187076043
yeah showed off new environment stuff more than anything

>>187077376
>radiators in vaccum work just fine
They work extremely slowly and inefficiently, so "just fine" is stretching the definition

>>187077559
Slow and inefficent is relative

a radiator in open air works slowly and inefficently compared to one immersed in water.

Last time I checked no none boiled alive on the ISS

>>187077713
What a complete non-argument. The ISS has massive fuck off radiators for what heat it generates, so yes they're inefficient, like you just readily admitted.

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>>187077375
Maybe you should be the one to kys.
It's only video games, no need to get so worked up over it bud.

>>187077559
Actually radiators work extremely well in space.
Typical radiators that use a medium to transfer heat do not, no. However radiators that disperse the heat through infrared work plenty well.

How do you think the heat of the sun gets to earth?

>>187077559
efficiency is proportional to the heat. the hotter it is the more it radiates. check something like children of a dead earth which features accurately simulated radiators dispersing heat from nuclear reactors. they're red hot and disperse much more heat like that.

>>187077865
The sun warms the earth because I never said IR radiation doesn't exist, its just highly inefficient compared to particle radiation. You pubg playing cretin.

>>187077865
>actually arguing convention is less efficient than IR radiation
ok tardlet

Can we forget fucking radiators and talk about if sq42 is ever coming out?

>>187076787
You're several years too late to complain about it bub.

Star Citizen has been about building an 'immersive' sci-fi universe for years now, your fault for not realizing sooner and putting your eggs in a different basket.

>2017
>people still under the impression that Star Citizen is going to be Freelancer 2.0
lol

I like Star Citizen

>>187078510
>>people still under the impression that Star Citizen is going to be Freelancer 2.0
But thats exactly what it is

>>187078157
>if sq42 is ever coming out
Possibly 2018, definitely not 2017, maybe 2019, potentially 2020 or later.

>>187078797
the initial pitch was.
Now it's a FPS set in an immersive sci-fi universe.

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>>187078896
>2020

>>187078925
yes it was

>>187078510
It'll be interesting to see how it plays out. From what I've seen CR say, I get the impression he thinks he's building Freelancer 2.0, and any autistic immersion talk (as opposed to quality immersion that brings you into the game rather than taking you out of it by being tedious) is just pandering to the current community to get jpeg bucks. It's clear other people involved in development think they're building a shitting-in-space simulator and have probably never engaged in a dogfight. The current vocal community definitely wants the shower sim 2030, but represent a very small number of people compared to the people that got hyped as fuck for it back in 2012. It'll be interesting as the game nears completion, if it ever does, whether CR ends up building the game of his dreams and burning the whales and entering the gamedev hall of legends, or if he folds and dies of obscurity as no one will play it.

>>187077865
the sun is extremely hot, so hot surface cannot be solid. it is also extremely large. you can't really compare it to a spaceship radiator.

>>187079170
What exactly does Chris bring? Is he just 'the ideas guy'?

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>>187078510
It still hurts, you know.

>>187079590
so comfy. I can hear the music already.

tfw I want them to scrap the whole space thing and just build a true Planetside sequel with the planet tech they have.

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>>187079539
He's a "bad ideas guy".

>>187079784
planetside 3 when

>>187079539
Pretty much. To his credit Wing Commander and Freelancer were great games. He definitely knows how to make a good space sim. The only questions are if he'll ever finish SC, if he actually has a coherent plan of how the game will play (because as of right now no one really knows what SC will be like once it launches), and if he has the backbone to follow through on his #VISION.

>>187079994
The Freelancer you played isn't Chris' vision of Freelancer.

I'm still not convinced CR does anything besides play the best dev build and ride the hype train with everyone else.

I have a feeling Sandi and a few other people are in control and just feed CR good builds of the game and sell him on hype like they do us.

>>187079994
with wing commander he had superiors at origin breathing down his neck
with freelancer microsoft bought out the studio and had to kick him off to finish it because it was going into exactly the same feature creep SC has today

the difference is he has sycophantic whales as his only superior now.

>>187080074
It's some of his Freelancer, just with a lot of stuff he wanted to add cut because they ran out of money and were forced into a deadline, which is likely what will happen with SC.

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>fly in my RSI™ Aurora™ LN
>suddenly a pirate appears
>not wearing any RSI™ G-Protection Nanosuit™, so I red out instantly on first maneuver
>pass out for 10 seconds
>come back to
>floor it to the nearest asteroid field
>black out because speed is too great and I don't wear any RSI™ G-Protection Nanosuit™, like I mentioned before
>pass out for 10 seconds
>wake up floating in asteroid field, no pirate in sight, I'm safe
>see red light blinking on HUD
>oh-oh, I'm running out of oxygen
>QT to nearby station
>notice another red light blinking
>oh-oh, I'm out of fuel as well
>realize I'll have to fly to the nearest moon and look for procedurally generated bases
>get my cruise engines warm and ready
>kick it
>black out yet again because speed is too great and I don't wear any RSI™ G-Protection Nanosuit™
>pass out for 10 seconds, kick the engine again, black out, repeat
>do that until I crash land on the moon
>my RSI™ Aurora™ LN is destroyed
>see a building in the distance
>I'm saved
>[gurrrrggrrrrrrrr]
>another red light appears
>I'm hungry
>I'm thirsty
>pass out
>come to in a medical center
>need to talk to the doctor, pay the bills and begin a new adventure
>doc doesn't want to talk to me because my RSI™ Aurora™ LN didn't have RSI™ Turboclean Shower Module™ and I'm all dirty and smelly now
>uninstall the game

>>187076787
whats the matter anon? you don't want to play dayz with spaceships?

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>no mining in 3.0
>yet another fucking network rework
>(i assume) player count cutback to 12, which is what they have right now in their barely playable version of the moon sandbox which STILL performs like ass with barely anything in it

ok

>>187084952
>STILL performs like ass with barely anything in it
Runs at stable 30FPS at Core i7 7700k, 32Gb RAM and 1080Ti :^)

>>187084952
The network rework is in progress and most of it isn't coming for 3.0.

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>Sq42 demonstration, despite being """"""""days or a week off"""""" almost a year ago still not ready
>animations for it are STILL BEING IMPLEMENTED AND WORKED ON
>AI still doesn't work yet
>On the question if someone is stopping him from adding more features: That day is when the game dies. It will always be developed and they aren't aiming for a concrete release date. You can buy the game now and play it and that will be always this way. But of course, he wants to get to a point where all basic functions are in and a game-loop is working fine and most people are happy with it.

Incredible. Word from the man himself.

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>>187085478
>no concrete release date

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>there will be no money in 3.0
for fucks sake how many more years will it take to get a god damn basic gameplay loop in place

>>187087471
just do the probes again anon :^)

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>star shitizen doesn't even have basic gameplay mechanics
>no mans sky still isn't allowed here

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>>187076787
what interview?
link?

>>187088295
>basic gameplay mechanics
You mean moving around in 3D space and shooting stuff
which it has?

>>187088830
mechanics are not gameplay

>>187075201
Another anon for a short course :
Heat always goes from hotter area to colder area, always. That's a fundamental of fabrics. You cannot prevent heat transfer or reverse it without radiating more heat away (that part of what prevent infinite energy generator)

There's several way for heat to move out : thermal conduction, thermal convection, thermal radiation, in space only radiation work. Radiation mean that heat is moving out as an electromagnetic energy (or why

If you are near a star, the star is radiating a lot of energy unto you, you are being irradiated and so heated.
Any area of you not looking at a star is irradiating toward colder area, since the cosmic background is at -270°C (or 3°K)

This is by the way why STEALTH IS IMPOSSIBLE IN SPACE (I mean this in practical terms, and it stand unless you control so many parameters of the context that you didn't need stealth in the first place)
btw, you are not authorized to dispute this fact unless you have read all of this
http://www.projectrho.com/public_html/rocket/spacewardetect.php#nostealth

Here we go again, all you salt dispensers will sing a completely different tune tomorrow

>>187088727
The Erin/Chris roberts inteviews. If I'm not mistaken, one was during the twitch stream, and the other was for a magazine or something.

>>187088727
Gamescom day 2 stream on SC channel, someone in comments timestamped the thing.

>>187088889
They are, actually. Gameplay is literally a string of mechanics.

>>187090903
How does it feel when even reddit and youtube comments are filled with disappointed people, dad?

>>187091269
what gameplay does flying around aimlessly create?

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>>187079590
I remember how Freelancer was breathtaking at the time. All that space.
It only looked silly because some of the space-gate made you understand how short the distance between planet was.
Also, the development cut made space fighter into a straight level up, it could be amazing that SC will finally have role-focused spaceship.

>>187079539
Good idea guys.
Freelancer was amazing despite being half of what he wanted, the Wing Commander were game of the year, and the WC moving was only a failure because he tried to fit 60 hour of good idea into a 2 hours movies with limited budget turn out you can't have X-wing level design using tube and scavenged wreck plus Star Wars episode 1 as a concurrent.

>>187080209
>It's some of his Freelancer, just with a lot of stuff he wanted to add cut because they ran out of money and were forced into a deadline, which is likely what will happen with SC.
Did you missed the infos where he still have 150 millions in advance and could continue production for years without income?
Unless you mean he'll cut features, this I'll agree on. They started already.

>>187091927
Apart from the enjoyment of flying, none.
Thankfully there are half a dozen different game modes in addition to free flight, and SM, and the PU..

>>187092875
>arena commander
pay to win, horrible balance
>PU
aimless griefing sim

>>187090903
I expect to be singing about how ugly the 600i is. And how overpriced it is.

>>187092959
bye bye goalposts, I'll miss you..

So uh, at what point does Star Citizen start to look like fraud? What they showed at gamescom was so underwhelming. You still can't mine anything, you can't really steal ships anymore. They're actually taking away features more than adding them and they still don't have a tentative release date for 3.0.

>>187093158
there are no goalposts. there is no gameplay in the current state of the game.

>>187090903
>game being delayed to literal hell
>things that were said to be needing just some polish or were almost done are still at the "almost done" stage many months later
>features confirmed for 3.0 removed
>another ship sale

Been watching game progress for 5 fucking years now. Currently we're waiting on a 3.0 that has had it's content slashed in half that can't even support a playercount above 15 that will likely have no AI, will have no currency system, and even mining is gone for now. What shiny new shit can they show tomorrow that will make up for this? Anything short of 3.0 and all of it's features being put to PTU live on camera won't fix this.

>>187093310
it should have been by the third year they pushed the release date back.
>coming 2014
>jk 2015
>lol actually, 2016 now
>when it's done

>>187090901
Shut the fuck up before Chris hears you and delays the game to add accurate thermodynamic simulation

>>187093468
6 years in development and nothing at all to show for it feels like fraud to be quite honest.

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>>187093964
I was so star struck by the kikescammer
>look at this fully functional flight combat demo with a big ship we made in 6 months with no funding
>give us 2 million so we can work even faster and get investor funding

>6 years later
>coming soon, hehe, just buy another ship. only $400 - plus tip

>>187051108
Is this game playable now? Do they have shooting vs players yet or is it still the old King Kongor looking at sky boxes game.

>>187093964
>nothing at all to show
But anon, what about a 3.0 planetary demo with space physics running on a server with 10 people for 15 minutes at a time :^)

>>187094254
you can shoot at people if you want but there's no reason to do so unless you really want to p2w a hornet and get into competitive arena commander

>>187094374
ah so you can actually interact with people now. Ok. What is missing from the game then?

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>>187090906
>>187091126

>Live from the Gamescom Showfloor (8/24 @ 10am UTC)
Gamescom august 24th?
I only see a interview with Erin at the 3:45:00 mark.

Did CRoberts say something noteworthy somewhere else?

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>>187094365
>Implying that doesn't seem shady.

I've also noticed that in every demo they bring back the same 4 twitch streamers.

>Makes_you_think_dot_jaypeg

>>187094374
You can play a few games of even PvE and rent a Hornet if you feel thats entirely necessary, but there are multiple people at the top of the leaderboard that aren't using Hornets.

>>187094494
Cargo
buying ships
mining
exploring
jump points
Multicrew

>>187094494
AI
Missions
Cargo
Many ships
Functionality for those ships (mining, gas dispensing, etc)
The entire capmaign
Landing zones
Planets
Most space stations
Currently 80+ star systems
Alien races beyond vanduul hitboxes
Repair mechanics
Exploring
Economy
Capital ships
...

THE FUCKING GAME THEY PROMISED US

>>187094756
fuck. how it cost

>>187094494
content. there are no real missions. you can't earn money and upgrade your ship or anything. you can just spawn what you've bought for free and dick around. there's a dozen samey locations you can fly to and maybe shoot some npc's hanging around there. most people just go around stealing ships and griefing.

>>187094662
>>187085478

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>>187094662
>Did CRoberts say something noteworthy somewhere else?

Oh, he did say something noteworthy alright. See >>187085478

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https://youtu.be/vUHUW_magpU?t=2h1m17s
Erin interview

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUHUW_magpU
There's a Space Engineers cosplayer at the end
Is this game even still alive?

>>187095310
probably just following xocliw around
>spengies is more complete than SC
god fucking damn it

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>>187085478
I fucking knew it!

SC 3.0 and SQ42 summer 2018 at the earliest.

We thought August 2017 back in desember 2016, and all they have showed us between CitizenCon 2016 and today is basically nothing.

Something tells me even Cyberpunk 2077 and The Witcher: Ciri Edition is going to release before this.


PS. I bet CIG is working according to microwave time, and not the standard 24h days.

/scg/edg/ infopic when?

But what makes Elite so compelling isn’t so much about the game as the experience. It’s the tinkering with and the taking out of a performance car for a Sunday drive, not to rack up more miles, nor to break any speed limits, but to just feel the growl of the engine and the wind comb through what’s left of your hair. To remember those carefree days arched over a BBC Micro or blinking angrily into a Lenslok and to forget for a short while that you have to make 357 people redundant in the morning. Elite is a hermetically-sealed escape capsule and it’s the best there is. Hell, you could fire the game up and just sit there on a launch pad and the sounds are enough to carry you away, so strong is your ship’s presence and so absorbing are the station surroundings.

Taking off, tearing through the station entrance a little too fast and just missing a Python, angling for the next jump, scooping fuel from a blazing sun, spinning the camera around your ship to catch its best profile, starting a fight just for the hell of it, seeing smok rise from the command console, hearing the screen crack and precious oxygen escaping into space and landing back at base with seconds to spare – these are the moments that make Elite essential. Trading, missions, mining – not so much. But it’s ok, we’re not going anywhere.

>one thread endless moaning
>the other talking about space games
I'm starting to think our local space janny bought an Idris

Also to the faggot(s) who are at gamescom, has Smart shown up? Does he intend to? I'm sure showering mechanics is a wet dream for him.

>>187097051
he's been tweeting about it nonstop

>>187096676
Hi Brabby!

Do you hate your real job so much, you have to glorify a simple featureless space trucking game to make your life have some sort of light in the tunnel on your way home?

>>187097285
>simple featureless
Still more complex and more features than Scam Citizen. :^)

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>>187097051
Smart is probably laughing his ass off right now. Everything SC related we've seen on Gamescom so far has been a disaster
>10 players max on server that crashed so often they had to force a reroll every 15 minutes
>ships clipping through each other and groud
>ships diving into the moons from orbit and taking zero damage
>ships just stopping in the air if pilot is killed
>multicrew falling out of ships and being killed inside due to collision errors
>lag galore
>Nox is a buggy mess that keeps rolling and flipping
>ships and wrecks behaving in atmo like they do in zero g
>TTK or netcode is MAD, yesterday a guy survived like 5 seconds of constant fire from Gladius' main gun

>>187097725
Seriously in what manner? SC currently has more indepth space ships,combat and trading than elite.

>>187097725
Scam Citizen isn't a bar by which you really wish to measure anything; unless that thing is scams. This gamescom demo was a disaster beyond belief. I was expecting them to at least have 32 person servers by now. Even battlefield 2142 had 64 person servers, and that was 11 years ago.

>>187098491
Their maps were also the equivalent of arcCorp

Would you believe me if I said they made turrets somewhat usable in the demo build?

>>187099606
I used them yesterday. They don't seem any different, at least in the cutlass turret.

>>187099707
I used it today. They applied gyro stabilisation and made it so the deadzone before turret rotation starts has the guns gimbaling. Plus it doesn't rotate infinitely as long as you're outside the deadzone, but stops rotating once it reached where you're pointing.

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Are there any games that implemented hygiene well? I remember Saint's Row 2 implying the player should change clothes every few days because npcs would start commenting on the smell.

Also food requirement but not a water requirement?

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>>187092237
Dont forget the cast full of sci-fi ignorant teenage pop culture actors instead of actual in genre decent names.

All this talk of showering gives me hope for space titties.

>>187100017
I think San Andreas would have bystanders comment on you if you didn't change your clothes. Either way it's a fucking stupid mechanic that's completely out of place for the genre. At this point Roberts is trying to create his own version of second life.

>>187096091
Make one m9, I'll use it in next OP.

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>>187100017
Survival elements can be fun like in Monster Hunter,Metal Gear Solid series.Also it adds value to trading by making food and medicine a consumable instead of a useless jpeg.Don't see why dads are so afraid.

>>187100412
s.t.a.l.k.e.r and fallout gave buffs your character if you sleep regularly and eat food

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Spesssquid!

>>187100412
the survival element that's relevant to space is oxygen, the rest is just pissing about.

>>187100979
And supplies and fuel and potable water/food

>>187100412
Learn what dad means you anus

showering in space is a unacceptable waste of water

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>>187101523
fuel maybe. water/food no.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyK_NR1aGys#t=3m30s
3 minutes 30 seconds

>>187101764
>the scarcity of water and food shouldn't be part of a space sim
>why? because early access shovel ware
nice straw man faggot

>>187102273
kys dad

>>187102653
dads fear challenging gameplay
kys dad

>>187102775
water/food managment has never been challenging gameplay, with the exception of games where its a core mechanic, and then its just fucking terrible.

>When asked about solo-piloting an Idris, Erin replied "Of course you can fly an Idris by your own, but you cannot fully operate it by your own. The Idris is therefore made for groups. Also it would be good to perform drills with your group to be effective in live action."

Cap whales BTFO. HueHue Monkey poster btfo.

>>187102775
>tacked on, out of place survival mechanics
>challenging gameplay

Okay.
The cult is fucking real.

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https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/6vqvpq/cr_interview_live_summary/
>all of these people losing faith in chris and becoming angrier

Goddamn this turmoil brewing is very tasty. I unironically hope tomorrow is also another failed presentation, just to see people lose their minds even more. I want their devout plebbit community to light a fire under their ass.

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>>187102956
>Of course you can fly an Idris by your own, The Idris is therefore made for groups

>>187102956
looks like kheetah is fucked

Survival mechanics are not fun outside of survival games like don't starve, etc.

Ham fisting it into a gamr lile SC just adds tedium

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>>187103049
found another gem

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>>187103126
i just named 4 amazing games with nice survival elements that aren't survival games.cry me a river dad.

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>>187103337
can't stop, won't stop

>>187103080
Every ship can be turned on and moved around from the helming station. Thats all he's saying. However all the other shit, like gunnery, damage control, engineering, sensors, and so on will require more people, human people, no just a horde of NPCs that you stick and chairs to automate the ship for you. YOu might have some NPCs but NPCs will still need human management to function and one human sitting in the helm cannot manage the engineering crew in a totally different part of the ship.

>>187103660
>going backwards
The cult is real isn't it? They obviously were lying last year since they are telling on themselves this year. The game isn't moving backwards, it was never where they told us it was, ever.

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>>187103660
the gift that keeps on giving.

>>187103474
Monster Hunter and Metal Gear Series? (and by that you mean snake eater, because I certainly wasn't shoving cake down my throat in Phantom Pain). MH isn't a survival mechanic. Fuck off.

>>187103840
The cult is totally real. They're not a majority but a hugely loud minority on Reddit and RSI/Spectrum, to the point where you literally cannot have an honest conversation about SC there because the cult shouts down all criticism. They claim that ANY negative comments damage the game, and like stress out the devs and hurt development.

>>187104047
I'm starting to think the cult is behind anti-NMS shitposting as opposed to E:D dads.

>>187104156
fuck off, this is not nmsg you obtuse faggot. No one wants to here about your shitty game.

>>187104047
CIG has been abusing good will for so long that when it runs out, there will be no recovering from the backlash. It will be like the nms launch x1000. Fucking demo tomorrow better kill an old person in audience.

>>187104156
That has to be it.

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>>187103049
>>187103337
>>187103660
>>187103907

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>>187104156
Or maybe its everyone, faggot. You want to talk about NMS, make a thread for it.

>>187104156
I'm busy violating this outpost in Quince over and over again. I don't give a fuck if you want to talk about NMS

>>187103912
Snake eater aside TPP has a shower and game reacts when you get too dirty.In monster hunter you eat food to replenish your stamina bar which decreases drastically every 5 minutes and gather herbs to make health potions.My summer car a game about car assembly has survival elements.Play more games dad.

>>187104386
>>187104521
It's just you screeching, sweetie.

>>187103907
This guy literally argues that we should enjoy waiting 10 years for a game that has 150+ million dollars sunk into it. Holy fucking cow. 3.0 isn't even coming out this year. Why are the feds not investigating Chris Roberts?

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>>187104156
nobody wants to talk about your shitty No Man's Lie. We already tried adding you niggers to our thread when it was going to release, and it was cancerous. Now please fuck off and die.

>>187104571
I literally never showered and nothing happened to me. Worse thing is a small cutscene.

That is NOT the fucking same as having to eat, drink and shower yourself at regular intervals or you die, faggot. Its not challenging, and its not gameplay.

>>187104785
>nobody
Except all the people that keep bringing it up, day after day, thread after thread.

>>187104890
aka, that one impetulant faggot who won't leave

they can take their literal scam somehwere else. We'll keep our scamInProgress here with our original E:D family.

>>187104571
>a 20 second cutscene if you don't do something for hours without any additional considerations is now considered survival

>Most of the thread is shitposting with only 51 ip's

Just kill the thread already.

>some NMS faggot trying to push into the general under pretense that it's 'SC cultists' who are against it.

LOL?

>>187105073
>literal scam
Bruh. I know you're angry at Chris, I am too, but calling NMS a scam, still, is 2016 shit. If you look at it objectively, NMS has most of the features we are waiting for in SC and ED, and you can play it now, you can even pirate it.
What is it that keeps you mad at this game? It has all the spess hsit you are looking for, for at least long enough for something else to be released.
The biggest secret that no one knows:You can own and like both games with no restrictions. The internet can't actually stop you.

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>>187104843
>>187105075
I made several other examples.Survival in space is a core game play feature of a space simulation.I've demonstrated how it can be implemented to not be a grindy shore and fun.Grasping at straws and crying loud like a baby won't help.CIG already made its mind.

>>187105467
>NMS has most of the features we are waiting for in SC and ED, and you can play it now, you can even pirate it.

>Good space dogfighting
nope
>Multiplayer
nope
>Singleplayer Campaign
nope

yeah really hits all the things on the list anon you massive shill cunt

>>187104785
No man's lie still has more features and a better developed world than Star Citizen. I thought it was funny when he was invited to do E3 and they told Chris that he had to have the game close to completion or they wouldn't let him come back so he instead went to gamescom because they would let him endlessly shill his tech demo.

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>>187105620
Everyone here is acting like it's final when if they release it and it's not fun they'll change it.

>>187105634
>Good space dogfighting
I'll give you that, although there are much worse handling games in the op paste bin.
>Multiplayer
Actually, yes and more updates are coming.
>Singleplayer Campaign
There are 2 main stories. The main quest has been reworked and there is a totally separate Atlas quest line that goes a totally different direction.

If you weren't a willfully ignorant nigger and actually pulled your head out of the sand to look around, you would see that everyone else is catching up to CIG, and the shit we have been waiting for for years is being delivered, just not by who you expected.

>>187105954
>Actually, yes and more updates are coming.
Nope

and NMS sorry excuse for a story does not qualify as a campaign. It is shit. It fulfills absolutely zero of the requirements E:D/SC players are primarily looking for.

So once again, fuck off shill.

>>187106145
>zero of the requirements
Allright, I'll play. What are the requirements for a mmo space game, anon?

>>187106280
Nice selective reading, retard. Try the entire sentence next time.

But since we're having fun, an MMO requires proper multiplayer. Not floating orb bullshit. kys.

>>187106145
>shill
Hi east-coast dad. Since you're literally the only one who unironically uses that term, did you play any video games today?
>>187105634
Play the game before shitposting about it, /v/

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>>187105467
>>187105728

I absolutely refuse to give money to Hello Games on principal, you fucking shill.

>develop game
>say w, x, y, and z is in the game
>constantly reaffirm that wxys is in there
>sell game at price of $60
>launch game with w, x, and half of y missing with just z, which itself is buggy as fuck and unplayable
>radiosilence for months

Fuck them. Got my refund day 2, and I will never every purchase anything that has had Sean in it's development, or from Hello games. Now you can fuck right off and make your own general to see how it holds up to garner interest for your scam.

>>187106609
There is no shitposting about NMS, because as bad a post you could make about the game, it would be accurate.

>shill isn't in common usage

okay faggot