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Confused boners edition

>Fallout 1 and 2
>General Information etc:
http://pastebin.com/mtYCtDLV

>Fallout 3 and New Vegas
>General Information, Mod Recommendations & Run Ideas etc:
http://pastebin.com/u29WKkGy
>Babbys first modding guide
http://www.rpgcodex.net/forums/index.php?threads/fallout-new-vegas-sigourns-recommended-mods.114486/

>Fallout 4
>General Information, Mod Recommendations etc:
https://pastebin.com/2W7Dhy69

>/fog/ Asset and Mod Repository
>Steam Guide of good mods
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=752795517

>GUNetwork
>Rips (Primarily for NV):
https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/folders/0B45SllNAhiQscHhxR28tZ1FwNTA

>How to Convert Skyrim / Oblivion / NV / FO3 etc. Models to FO4 & Bodyslide Guide:
http://pastebin.com/MWEPKj5m

>Storyfag's imgur:
http://imgur.com/a/iNUlq

>OP Pasta
>Please use the info from this link when creating new threads:
https://pastebin.com/raw/dFMpLWAX

Post-War thread: >>>/vg/fallout
Pre-War thread: >>p186774837
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>>186848379
>put in lewd lady bot
>can't fuck it
TOOOOOOOOOODDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
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2nd for wanting to fuck Dixie
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>>186848379
messed up the pre-war thread
oops

>>186774837
>>186774837
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Is it bad my biggest problem with FO4 is that there's no Ron Perlman ending monologue?
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I've never been to New England, does winter usually start in mid-November? I really want to install the Seasons mod, and achieve ultimate comfiness.

>>186848581
No. It isn't. In fact, that's probably the best reason to dislike the game. Instead of having ol' Hellboy voice the cutscenes, they have Mr. and Mrs. Dickhead do it.

Fuck voiced protagonists.
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>>186848474
she can solve your problems anon, just give her few hundred caps

>>186848581
no, the lack of proper credits really takes from the game.
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>unironically teared up during the ending monologue
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>>186847879
Boston Snow months
Nov, Dec, Jan, Feb, March, Apr
Boston Fog/Rain months:
May, Jun, Jul, Aug, Sepm Oct

First snow of November:
'50 - 21st
'51 - 1st
'52 - 8th
'53 - 6th
'54 - 25th
'55 - 19th
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xth for why couldn't we save her?

>>186848657

I've never been to New England, does winter usually start in mid-November?

Used to. I live in maine, when I was a kid we'd sometimes have snow that early yes.

It doesn't happen so much anymore. We're lucking if we have more than an inch fall anymore before christmas
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>>186848839
>xth for why couldn't we save her?
Because the freedom is these games is an illusion.
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>>186848829
So the 13th would be right in the middle then. Thanks anon.

>>186848839
>Used to. I live in maine, when I was a kid we'd sometimes have snow that early yes.
Oh cool. Isn't BAH HABAH in southern Maine? I'm shit at geography.
>It doesn't happen so much anymore. We're lucking if we have more than an inch fall anymore before christmas
Blame pollution. I doubt a nuclear war will improve that, but after 200 years, I'd say the ecosystem has recovered enough to have snow in November.
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>>186849067
Didn't all the nuclear detonations knock the earth slightly off of its axis or some shit?
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>>186848753
I teared up after doing Nick's quest.
Couldn't really tell you why it gave me such a reaction to it though. I just thought his entire arch was beautiful.
>>186849067
>BAH HABAH in southern Maine?
Yes. It was really amazing how much of Maine's geography and geology they got right in the DLC. A lot wrong too, but a lot right.
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>>186849270
>Yes. It was really amazing how much of Maine's geography and geology they got right in the DLC. A lot wrong too, but a lot right.
Well, they did take pictures of the place. I assume there aren't swamps in southern Maine?
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>>186849194
>Didn't all the nuclear detonations knock the earth slightly off of its axis or some shit?
That was a meme to excuse the shitty weather abilities of Gamebyro
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>Decide to play NV again
>Completely fresh re-install
>Following the modding guide in the OP
>Get to where the bug fixes sections
>Followed everything to the letter
>All the utility programs and mod organizer are set
>Script extender and 4gb launcher patch
>Decide to see if it works
>Won't launch through MO but works fine if I load it through the folder
>Can't seem to figure out why

I already have everything I want to mod into the game set and waiting, but I can't start installing anything without figuring out why this just won't work. I double-checked everything to make sure the pathways are set correctly too, but it just starts up and then CTD after a second or two.
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I accidentally made 'Minion goggles'. Didn't see it until I was testing them in game, now I can't get it out of my head.
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>mfw I loved the original fallout games as a kid
>try to play FO1 again
>can't get past the graphics and gameplay

w-whats happened to me?
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>>186849586
But those look like regular goggles.
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>>186849586
purge them from existence.
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>>186849586
>'Minion goggles'.
This bothers me because that's a very basic goggle design.
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>>186849586

peripheral vision is important, m8
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Meant to post here instead of at the end of the previous thread, but should I install the unofficial patch for Fallout 4?
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>>186849710
They're goggles, m8
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>>186849856
yes
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>>186849856
>>186849891

Why?
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>>186849889

welding goggles. You won't be able to see shit, nigga
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>>186849928
to fix things
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>>186849586
still hasn't released that courser costume

>>186849928
the rust devils fix alone is enough reason
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I am so fucking mad. I absolutely have a boner for the T-45. It is by far my favorite, with the T-51 taking second, and the Tesla Enclave Armor taking 3rd. But what the fuck did Bethesda do?

>T-45A is rusted as fuck.
>T-45B-F are cleaner but still have rust all over
>Same goes for the T-51
>Tesla isn't even in the game

Motherfuckers. I can understand the B through E having rust, but I specifically upgraded to F because I wanted the rust completely gone. But the only change was from A to B.

I even looked for some retexture mods, and all I found was "immersive" bright colored paints and a winterized T-51 rust remover. I just want my top of the line power armor to look top of the line. The only regular rust remover I found was for the T-60, because apparently everyone but me has their dicks out for it. Which obviously doesn't help me.

Do any of you anons have any retexture mods I could be overlooking?
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>>186849584
Alright I give up. Google didn't really give anything other than complaints over the issue
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>>186850309
Technically the Rust Devils fix isn't part of UFOP, if you're referring to them taking up 50% of the spawns. That's something you have to change on your own because the mod authors left it in since it was an intentional (bad) design decision from Bethesda and not a bug.
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Anyone else has this weird texture bug where every NPC has a hazy pink aura around them?

I know this is the effect of a drug but even without taking any or removing all my armor it just keep appearing.
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I'm interested in a lore-friendly NCR run of New Vegas, since I've not played the NCR a lot and I recently reinstalled. I can't find any good mods, however. Any suggestions?
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>>186852026
Wow. Those are by far the absolute worst graphics I have ever seen. Please tell me you're at least getting a stable 60 fps with your shit that low.

Also. I don't see any pink aura.
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>>186842638
>>186842790
Sounds like a camera mod. A lot of those have settings so you can tweak third person camera angles depening on the situation, like if you have a ranged weapon it'd be more over the shoulder, if you don't have a weapon out it's centered, in sneak mode it moves the camera up to give you a better view, etc. So sounds like you have one of those and the settings are borked.

>>186849584
So does the game run if you manually launch it, or is that when you get the CTD? Also with NV, if you're on a newer OS (like anything after Vista), you might need to try compatibility modes or run it as Administrator, shit like that. Could also be something MO has an issue with, although I can't say as I don't use any mod managers.

>>186852105
The game is basically designed around NCR runs. That's probably the most open and versatile faction for backstories, as there is potentially a half million people in the NCR, really nothing is that farfetched. You could even be a Senator's Son.
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"If you're wearing a collar, it's because you asked for it. Ain't no one's a slave that don't want to be."

So Nuka World is actually just a bdsm resort where people go to play with their significant other? Everyone is accepting and even participating. Sounds great!
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>>186851552
Just play vanilla like a true patrician.
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>>186849623
>torrent FO1
>play for about 15 minutes, it's pretty good
>Ian gets stuck in a doorway and I can't leave a room
amazing game
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ayy___________________________________lmao
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>>186852569
It runs if I launch it from the root folder. If I try to launch it through the Mod Organizer, it launches but CTDs a second after the screen turns black. Everything is set to run as administrator and I turned off my antivirus during testing, so I'm quite at a loss here. I'm using windows 7 and have only ever played Fallout on this OS, but this is the first time I've followed the guide (mainly due to it not being around when I first modded the crap out of NV back then). I'll probably try again later, but I've been doing this on and off for the last three hours so seeing it just not work is exasperating. I assume it has something to do with the 4gb patch as it actually worked through the MO up until I applied it.

>>186852650
Outside of bug fixes and cosmetics that's what I was essentially planning. The only real mod I was going to install was stuff for weak poisons so I can do a knife / poison stealth run.
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>>186852370
Well well I'm retarded I didn't check before posting because I thought I got it, I did take the pic when the auras where up they just pop up and dissapear at random moments.

I fucking wish anon, of course its shit. Can barely run mods on a 7 year old PC at 30 frames on LOW
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>>186849359
>I assume there aren't swamps in southern Maine?
There are salt marshes on the coast, but they're not nearly as abundant as in far harbor
The biggest thing though is I would have never thought they'd bother tipping their hat to Moxie, a maine based soda probably no one else here knows about, with Vim!
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>>186851679
it's not that. it's the other thing where apparently once they spawned somewhere they would always spawn there

though the 50% thing is total bullshit and I'm making a .esl to change that whenever I feel like playing again
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>>186853257
Not the guy you replied to but moxie is god-tier soda. I live in CA and I love trying out different regional sodas that you can't really get here.
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This is Brotherhood Squire one minute before i sent him to a fiery grave in a burning Zepellin.
I figured i make a picture because it'll last longer than he did.

Say something nice about him.
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>>186853479
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Is Deadpool2099's Hunting Shotgun worth downloading? I've been reading mixed shit on nexus but most of those dumbshits can't tell a bug from a mod conflict so I'm confused. His Assault Combine mod works fine so the shotgun should too right?
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>killing the brotherhood
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Which companions can hack? Any who are down with raiding? I'm forming my raider squad and I'm bringing Cait for lockpicking, picking between Gage/Macready for muscle, and I want a hacker but I don't know of anyone besides Nick and he's a spoil sport.
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>>186853648
>mfw I talk shit about nexus members then can't spell "carbine"
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>>186853664
>not killing the brotherhood
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>>186853889
>being a faggot and helping synths
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>>186853648
It works okay, aside from using the stupid vanilla Lever-Action reload, but i personally can't get over the blocky model.
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>>186853934
>not destroying the prydwen with the minutemen
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>>186854083
the minutemen are a bunch of gimps t b h lad
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>>186854083
>not creating your own raider gang and destroying minutemen settlements
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>>186854158
Aren't the minutemen meant to be the "neutral" path? I can't ever convince myself to finish the game with them because BoS feels way more canon to me.
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>>186854256
i dunno i just like the BoS out of all the other options
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>>186853648
I like it just fine.
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>>186854083
>being a settlement autist

>>186854247
>being a settlement autist in gimpmask

>>186853934
>being a racist
>in current year
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>>186854387
Good glad to hear from someone who has it installed I'm gonna download it.

>>186854309
Me too. I'm gonna do the minutemen ending this time but I'm not taking out the BoS if I can avoid it.
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>>186854438
>implying synths are a race
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>>186854594
Yea. People will say what they will about the stock lever action rifle animations but at least they don't break like the 870 scripts and leave you holding nothing and not fire for no reason.
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>>186854438
>hurr durr settlements r bad bcuz i have no creativity
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>>186852650
>vanilla NV
To be quite honest I'd rather play 3 or 4 vanilla before NV.
>>186853092
I wouldn't worry about. Very well possible that MO can't handle 4gb patch to the exe; it's generally a more recent requirement (mainly to help newer systems use more of their potential and not get bottlenecked by a WinXP/Vista game), and I don't know how long MO has been behind, but I do know MO is worthless for FO4.

>>186852731
The exact same thing happened to me a bit ago, except instead of torrent I bought. Was that in Vault 15? Where it happened to me.
>>186849623
I don't see what graphics have to do with anything, FO graphics look fine for what they are, the only thing that would be an issue is pixel hunting to interact with things properly could get tedious.
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>>186854724
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>>186854812
>Was that in Vault 15?
It was in Shady Sands, actually. I just picked him up and was talking to people around town
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>>186854695
They don't break because they're not modded you utter fucking buffoon. Base games LAR animations are fuckawful and worse than what was used in a prior iteration.

How the FUCK do you go backwards in a sequel that's had what, shy a fucking decade to work on it? Fuck Bethesda. Worst indie studio.
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>>186853479
Wait a sec, I'm new to FO4, but not Skyrim, you can use an ENB with FO4?
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>>186854695
The Lever-Action is sometimes invisible and wont fire in my game and i don't have any mods that affect that gun or try to "fix" the reload animation so i wager that issue comes from something else.
Probably easy to fix too but the FO4 Lever Action looks, acts and sounds worse than any of its counterparts from NV.
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>>186855145
That was an incredibly retarded question anon and i hope you feel bad about it.
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>>186855145
>ENB
It's not as good as Oldrims ENB but it's working fine.
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someone rec me an ENB i dont even know which one im currently using t b h
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Sixfag here. Me, Stronk (ignore the black face, running SLI so this is really common), and a somewhat upgraded Codsworth, are currently assaulting the Forged forge-ress, trying to recover Abraham Finch's sword, and hopefully his son as well.
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>this time i wont make a sneaky guy
>makes a sneaky guy
every fucking time
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Is there a mod yet that made Libertalia not just one big letdown of wasted opportunities?
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>>186855740
Because Stealth Archer is the most powerfull "build" in any Bethesda game.
Not doing it means intenionally gimping yourself. It's hard for some people to not play in the most effective way possible and use something for """fun""" instead.
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>>186855817
Is there one that does it for the robot racetrack?
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>>186855939
Shouldn't be too difficult to replace the generic raiders and triggermen there with cusom raiders in a new faction so they don't attack on sight, like what the Combat Zone restored mod did.

But aside from that, what would you want to see from a racetrack mod? An option to bet on the robutts? Letting your own automatron join the races?
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i have a feeling that nick doesn't really like me.
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i don't know what the fuck happened, but sometimes my vision goes all dark and then it returns to normal afterwards.
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>>186856440
It's called Night anon. It usually happens when the sun goes byebye.
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>>186856440
>playing with controller
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>>186856440
Did you watch the eclipse in the morning?
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>>186855925
>gimp
you say that like going non stealth archer means that you will struggle, which lol no way fag.
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>>186856756
No that's literally not what gimping means.
Also yeah Bethesda games are easy, go figure.
Thanks for playing kid.
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>>186855925
>something for """fun""" instead.
Hey now it is funny the first few times you sink an arrow into an enemy and he goes back to his normal patrol route none the wiser. Then it gets really routine.
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What do you think Piper's favorite food is?
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>>186858230
gumdrops
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Need help. Last time I played NV I had a player bunker home mod that I liked since, unlike many player homes, it wasn't overstuffed with clutter or loaded down with retarded NPCs who I don't care to see spammed up in my base. Problem is I can't fucking find it now. If anybody recognizes it from these pics then let me know.
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>>186857681
>not sinking enough points into your skills to 1shot everything
what the fuck are you even doing with your life anon
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>>186858358
#2
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>>186856739
i don't live in u.s. besides it was cloudy this morning and i had no clue about eclipses.

amari a cute tho
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>>186858358
is it the underwater base
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>>186858358
I think that's the Underground Hideout. I recognize the teddy bear on the cot.
www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/37884/?

>>186858479
Alright yeah, that's definitely the Hideout.
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>>186858479
#3, that's all

pls help /fog/ it was my most fave base
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>>186858230

Big hunks of meaty goodness
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>>186858557
>>186858592
>>186858479
>>186858358
http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/36121/?

http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/57062/?


One of these two?
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>>186858230
sole survivor dick
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>>186858574
>www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/37884/?
Oh that explains it, dipass modder didn't put it in the player homes section, he put it in buildings.

Thanks fella you can fuck my sister anytime
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>>186858230
Whatever Blue makes. If it's nice she would love it, and if it's really bad she would laugh and think it's cute.

She canonically snacks a lot and loves pre-war junk food like fancy lads and nukacola.
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>>186858389
>what the fuck are you even doing with your life anon
Oh please you're telling me you never used a shitty bow for a chuckle now and then? I mean sure it's all fun and games to one shot the assholes with a daedric bow that looks like it's sold out the back of a hot-topic but sometimes it's just as much fun to see how many arrows you can sink into a guy without killing him.
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>>186858358
I know which one it is but I can't remember the name. Lemme see if I can find it for you.
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>>186858780
That's OK, anon got it

www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/37884/?
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>>186858884
Well at least I was right about which mod it was even if I couldn't remember the name.
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who here supply lines?
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>>186859067
i bet all of /fog/ has messy supply lines
baka
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>>186859067


>>186859140
Mine are very organized, and have hubs based on proximity and relative size of the settlements. Smaller feed into larger, shortest routes for caravaners, etc.
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>>186858692
QT
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>>186859140

Nope

Robot supply line hub master race
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>>186859208
just connect those two next to greentop. i'm getting triggered by them having to walk the whole way south and west only to have to come back north and east
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>>186858664
I'd rather fuck my own sister.
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Is there a way to tell why the game crashes yet?

>all mods disabled
>new game
>crashes after 10 seconds outside vault
the fuck am i supposed to fix this?
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Does anyone know why editing a mesh for something would cause my game to crash?
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>>186859550
is that frost?
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>>186859624
the mesh is truly fucked up.
happened to me once, pic related.
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>>186859762
I mean I don't think I fucked anything up that bad. Or I could have. I just removed something and suddenly I can't load it in the CK or the game
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>>186859392
It's too bad robots inherently fuck with your happiness.
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>>186859592
Also my hdd makes some unholy noise when the game starts. Not on loading, just until it gets to the menu.
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>>186859689
Nah, just the winter part of the Seasons Project.
http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/5810/?
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>>186859392
i did robots for all my settlements, but then i found out the provisioners get reset to the default bot without anything on them if you don't see them for a long time.

provisioners in power armor is better choice, if you want them to retain the shit you give them.
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Give me lore dump on Diamond City's Science Center Lesbian couple
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So Kyle just got killed for thinking his brother, Riley, was a synth, my VATs says he's got some sort of defense, (like John the barber), is he (and John) actually Synths? Is there a list of synths in the general populace?
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>>186860753
Energy Resist, not ballistic defense.
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>>186860753
>>186860895
Neither are true. Looking at someone's resistances and seeing if they are a synth is an urban legend.

Synths also don't walk around with weapons out, and they don't walk around at night.

Every "trick" to finding out a synth has been disproven.

The only way to know for sure is to kill them, or download the advanced settlements control mod on the nexus which has an option to show you who is a synth.
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>Abernathy girl has a crush on man called Hawthorne
>go to DC
>it's a black guy
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>>186861360
I knew you were going to say this and I bet you have that shitty "debunked" youtube video on bookmark when it's completely fucking wrong.

Seeing Energy resist when naked works 100% of the time.

Walking around at night is simply from fucking up bed placement.
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>>186855709
>mfw trying to do that quest at lvl 20
i thought it would be just a few rag-tag raiders with a funny name
instead i got buttraped
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>>186861506
>video evidence is wrong
Ok, I would love to watch the video that you have bookmarked demonstrating that the energy resist method does work.

Please feel free to link it.

I'm also not being sarcastic, if you actually have a video, please link it because I want to know, since at the moment I'm under the impression the energy resist thing is a myth.
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Who /buildingup/ here?
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>>186861417
It gets worse.
>He appears to be a mercenary/explorer who explored vaults and pre-War ruins. He is a cat lover, having 25 cats in his house and multiple cat pictures.
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>>186861634
i didnt know you could have a settlement in the city
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>>186861814
Looks like it could be Hangman's Alley.
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>>186861814
Hangman's Alley.
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>>186861879
>>186861854
fug thanks dudes
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>>186861417
>>186861653
You know what to do.
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>>186861653
Maybe she's a cat person too and heard about the cats and thinks it's cute?
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>>186862009
I'm going to skin all of his cats and mount them on my wall.
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>>186862059
What did the cats do to you?
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Which .ini do I disable the HD textures crap with?
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>>186862106
25 cats is too many. He is probably neglecting them, unable to care for them properly, especially if his job requires him to travel. I am simply putting them out of their misery and gaining some house decorations in the process.
Maybe Lucy Abernathy will like what I did with the place.
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>>186861576
What
I meant you posting that shitty debunking video using Sturges because he's a synth and has no resist but drops the component on death.
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>>186859876
Happiness doesn't actually do anything as far as I can tell.
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>>186862106
killed trillions of birds and spread malignant brain parasites to babies
fucking animal lovers are pig disgusting
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>>186862471
There's a few videos debunking it, one with like a million views from /fog/'s favorite guy oxhorn.

If someone goes through the process of taking their clothes, checking their resistances, killing them to be sure, checking a control group, downloading the mod that tells you in order to verify results, and goes through this process and shows every step, they're being scientific and are creating a repeatable experiment with verifiable results.

It's by no means "shitty". I'm much more inclined to believe the video documenting the process, than someone who very unscientifically dismisses video evidence as "shitty".

Until you provide your own equally scientific video, we can't really continue this conversation.

>>186862586
>read about how touching cats encourages dementia
It all makes sense desu senpai
Dogs for life
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>>186862408
There's something fucky about fallout cats.
They're around in places they shouldn't be, with pet bowls and all, like they're still living the prewar life.
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>>186862059

>>186862106
He's "that guy" they can't help themselves.
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>>186863087
Man I fucking love terminal lance.
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>>186863038
They're synthetic.
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>>186863570
Remember that webm of the twitch streamer who nuzzles her cat who is sitting on the back of her chair, and the cat literally slashes her eye open, and she's bleeding down her face? For just nuzzling it affectionately?

I'm afraid of cats. I've known nice cats so it's not like I'm judging all cats but I just have a pang of stress whenever I'm near one.

Dogs on the other hand, I grew up with them and even the "mean" breeds like bulldogs have always been sweethearts to me so I love dogs. Mans best friendo.
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>>186863570
Cats teach lessons. You deserved it because you were a stupid kid and the whole thing made you a little less stupid.
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>>186863782
cat detected
get off computer
you are cat
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>>186863760

I've never seen that webm. The only cat thing I know of on the internet, besides all the cheesburger crap, is this one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jf-UKCNXUio
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>>186863570
>>186863760
Don't kid yourselves. There are dogs out there that will fuck you up.
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>>186863908
of course. Likelly millions of them. That's how large populations work.

But I have never been given reason to personally distrust a dog. Even the big scary bulldogs and great danes just slobbered on me.

Meanwhile, I've met mean cats.

So when I personally encounter a dog, I have positive emotions. When I encounter a cat, I think they're cute and want to pet it but in the back of my mind I'm aware that cats aren't as domesticated as other pet animals and still slice people up for offending them.

So it's very much a personal experience sort of thing.

>>186863887
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AmZgcEQIeEE
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>>186848379
>fog hates cats
In a General of shit taste this has got to be the cherry on top
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>>186859624
Anyone? It also crashed the CK too. I'm sure I'm probably doing something wrong but still.

>>186863570
Cats are assholes, atleast most of them. I had family staying with me and their cat tried to attack mine. It chased it into the bathroom and had it corned, all I did was open the door and reached down to push my cat out of the room and their cat jumped my arm, scratched the shit out of it and bit the fuck out of my hand.
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>>186863760
>For just nuzzling it affectionately?

she went and brought it to her, picked it up and placed it ontop of her chair, it was visibly annoyed and she kept pestering it while clearly not interested.

she then started kissing it, then nuzzling it and then it got fed up.

nose to nose for cats is a pretty big deal.
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>>186863908

I know there's some dogs that might be born mean, but I think you have to mistreat a dog a lot more than a cat before it gets angry enough to actually hurt you.

I don't think I have to worry about this one hurting me regardless. She runs away from even cockroaches.
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>>186864138
Anon that's just the alzheimer's talking.

Toxoplasma gondii is commonly found in cats, and around one third of people are thought to be infected worldwide. ... Once infected, the parasite moves to the brain and can cause symptoms can sometimes produce behavioral changes that mimic schizophrenia.


https://www.cbsnews.com/news/cat-parasite-toxoplasma-gondii-linked-to-mental-illness-schizophrenia/

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2012/03/how-your-cat-is-making-you-crazy/308873/

https://www.alzheimers.org.uk/news/article/163/cat_parasite_linked_to_risk_of_alzheimer_s_disease
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>>186864069

Ouch

I probably would have thrown that cat across the room
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>>186864364
>I can collect full disability at 21 years old
Well, cats just got one paw over dogs in my book, thanks anon, I think I need a few more cats.
M9 cats giving me Alzheimer's is the least of my worries considering how unhealthy my lifestyle is
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>>186864364
>Toxoplasma gondii is commonly found in cats, and around one third of people are thought to be infected worldwide. ... Once infected, the parasite moves to the brain and can cause symptoms can sometimes produce behavioral changes that mimic schizophrenia.

only for people that got aids, or weakened immune system.

it's for people that wouldn't be around if modern sanitation and hygiene was a thing.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toxoplasmosis


you know, you should be learned about this subject considering how much it has flared up in media because of the 5 000% price hike on the medicine that cures it.

it's a parasitic infection that only affects people that literally have no immune system (aids), children and senior adults
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>>186864489
>I can collect full disability at 21 years old
no u can't wagie get back to making me my tendies
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>>186864552
>wagie
Salary thank you
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>>186864069
>For just nuzzling it affectionately?
People need to learn about animals before owning. That cat was clearly not happy and one look at the tail should be enough to tell you that cat did NOT want to be nuzzled.

Speaking of nuzzling though, tfw you will never nuzzle nora. Gotta keep this shit Fallout related.
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>>186864271
>nuzzling is a pretty universal sign of affection, from horses and cows to dogs and even humans
>cat goes straight for the eyes, the most brutal thing it can possible do besides maybe the throat, in response to being nuzzled, something it knows is affection
>"it was fed up".
Sure, the cat was bothered. Sure, the cat wanted to be left alone. And sure, the girl was initiating unwanted touching, even if it was affection.

But I don't attempt to gouge someone's eyes if I'm annoyed by affection touching?

The point being that cats don't give a fuck about you. It sat there on it's ass and just went straight for gouging a vulnerable spot for maximum damage instead of getting up and moving, Terrible offense to punishment ratio. Animals instinctualy know how important eyes are.

>>186864549
That's what the cats want you to think.
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>>186864313
Do you nuzzle your dog Buffscale
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>>186864690
You're assuming cats think on the same level as humans which is patently fucking retarded caitfag.
What the fuck.
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>>186864676
desu, she had a shit cat.

my cat would swat at me if she was annoyed, like cat-punch me.

but with claws retracted.

cats don't hurt the people they actually like.
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>>186864770
I mean my cats generally freak out when I get really close and raise my voice, that probably had a lot to do with it
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>>186864734
No, I'm framing things in ways cats to know and understand. It recieved a universal sign of affection within the animal kingdom, and it gouged another mammal's eyes, which it knows is a maximum damage area it would do in a life threatening fight just the same.

Everything I said is within the context of what the cat does know and its instincts.

>>186864770
yeah, non rediculous cats retract their claws.

Like a wookie. There are just lots of Madclaw cats running around, who should be banished to the shadlowlands of Kashyyk.
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>>186864690
If a cat wanted to go for maximum damage then it wouldn't have stopped until she was dead. Use your brain in these discussions, please, it's what separates from the animals.
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>>186864727

Nah
Who'd want to nuzzle an animal that licks its butt and drinks out of the toilet
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>>186864873
Or maybe it had to do with fucking proximity you massive fucking autist?
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>caitfag derailing the thread with shitty opinions again
war never changes
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>>186865006
opinions that are factually incorrect at that, is that even considered an opinion?
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>>186864873
>framing things in a way cats know how to understand
No you aren't because we still largely don't understand the details of how cats brains work. Cite me some goddamn sources that say House cats have this knowledge and stop pulling shit out of caits ass
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>Abernathy cat and brahmin died during a Gunners invasion
:'(
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>>186865006
>>186865041
>>186865057
>>186865058
cats outta the thread
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>>186865072
Mutts please leave, the enclave isn't interested in such diluted blood
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>>186864873
The cat didn't target her eye you dunce, it went for the closest thing to it at the time. If it wanted maximum damage, it would've gone for her throat.
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>>186864892
>>186864950
You guys are also skipping over that animals give warnings when threatened or displeased, and cats hiss. This cat skipped that too and just gouged. Skipped batting with retracted claws, skipped hissing, skipped just leaving the room even if she wanted to pick him up, and just gouged.

It's an asshole cat and the cat defense force is defending it.

>>186865072
Ok, you're right. It started as fallout related but did derail and I apologize for my part in it.

Returning Ashes was one of my favorite feelgood quests.
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>>186865058

After I got the 100 happiness achievement the cats were no longer needed
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>>186865231
>This cat skipped that too and just gouged.
Look at the fucking tail. The tail is a warning you uneducated ape. And nobody is defending it, the cat was an asshole, they're just pointing out how fucking wrong you are about your gross generalizations.
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>>186865307
>004
>999
How many missiles do you even have?
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does BS defence ( www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/20137/? )

and sim settlements ( www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/21872? )

work together?

I saw some jootube video from the creator of sim settlements explaining he has altered the settlement defense values and i'm curious now.
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>>186865231
The tail flick is a big warning and one you should know if you've been around cats
Hissing is reserved for specific situations, my cats only ever hiss around other cats.
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>>186864923
I doubt your dog would want to nuzzle with an autist who jerks off to B"""B"""Ws and other degeneracy.
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>>186848379
>That double chin
>That patrick warburton face
Good job, very realistic, have a good day.
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>>186848753
Of which game?
If you say Fallout 4 you are pathetic.
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>>186865490
>tfw even your dog stops licking its own ass to look down on you
Buffscale truly is rock bottom degeneracy
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How do I get rid of a perk requirement? Tired of needing to be rank 4STR for blacksmith to get the WeaponSmith bench.
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>>186865678
unlock the perk
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>>186865678

Construction kit
Find the thing that lets you use the weaponsmith bench
Check the conditions / requirements and get rid of the perk

That's more of less the way to do it
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What do you guys think of the America Rising mod?
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>>186865598
Yup, fallout 4.

>>186865485
Doesn't it continue the same sort of motion even after? It just sort of stands there looking around and still wagging while she's covering her face. If there was a warning sign flick in amongst the wagging I just completely missed it too. I've seen cats moving their tails like that while just walking around and nuzzling and doing whatever.
I don't know cats.
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Does Fallout have particle beam weapons in the lore?

Like photon based weaponry?
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>all these mods that give Minutemen ranks, good weapons, armor, power armor and extra shit
I just want a non-retarded Minutemen not not-Minutemen.
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>>186866091
The Alien blaster maybe
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>>186865939
>I don't know cats.
We know. Cats wag their tail when they're annoyed, it might not have been her annoying it but something was. She just got burned for it. Also, cats don't just stop being annoyed once they injure the thing annoying them.

Cats flick their tail when they're excited and/or happy.

You know you could just google this shit instead of continuing the off topic discussion.
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>>186866278
>cats flick their tails when they're excited, happy, or about to go for the eyes


Fallout cats seem nice. They usually just stretch and eat some food and wander around.

>watcher cats
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Why does FO4 run like shit? Especially downton Boston.
Here's my specs, I don't have any visuals mods installed apart from some HD face textures
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>>186866576
Shadows and volumetric lighting are unoptimized.
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Okay now how the fuck do I make the CK recognize multiple master files? I did what google suggested and it still doesn't work. Thought it was me doing BAllow but after fixing it still doesn't work.
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>>186867293

https://youtu.be/-KH0kVGWN5o

Already tried this?
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>>186867593
CreationKit
CreationKitCustom
CreationKitPrefs

Nothing works
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>>186867926

Hmm, I'm not sure then. I don't think I've even done this yet on my copy.

Stuff like this should be enabled by default in my opinion. If you don't have it figured out later, I'll see if I can see whats going on later tonight.
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what mods allow me to change the size of different settlement objects like statues?
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>>186868323
place anywhere involves a scale button. alternatively you can use the console and setscale command
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>>186868426
oh great, the game crashed while i tried to change the size of a statue.
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literally how do i make the statues bigger? i already have the place everywhere mod and i try to press the hotkeys but nothing happens, it just gives me a message about changing a scalestep.
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>>186869009
you're scaling the wrong thing then
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>>186869212
what should i be scaling then? i just want my future settlers to worship a giant vault girl.
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>>186869259
>fog unlocked
>>
is there a reason Bethesda turned fallout into a meme franchise?

Dumb shit like the junk jet and it's loading screen saying some cringe shit like "you haven't lived until you've killed someone with a teddy bear", feed into this idea that the masses seem to have that fallout is a goofy shooter where the player freedom is not how your actions affect the world, but the ability to kill raiders with launched mini nukes or teddy bears, while wearing a dress and listening to funny music, before going home and crafting before creepers come for your diamonds. Simply epic

Fallout 4 is so fucking PG it's not funny, save for the violence, usually played for comedy or just spectacle, and use of naughty words. No hookers, no rape, nothing edgy in the slightest. What, one NPC who says, "when oi was of legal age, oi was sold boi me moom and dad as a sloive, wow that sure was messed up Ay" dancing around the issue so as to not say anything that might spook the children.

The game is a sterile, corporate, kids friendly theme park ride of a fallout game, throwing in minecraft elements and enhancing the shooting segments and stripping out skills to maximise sales and minimise the skill barrier.

/poorly formatted blog
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I finally got around to going through that spoopy parking garage it's pretty neat.
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>>186869782
>is there a reason Bethesda turned fallout into a meme franchise?
It makes them a lot of money. It's really not difficult to fathom, anon.
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>buffscale mistreats cats
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>>186871012
cats are cancer
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>>186871134
My cat is the most chilled out animal i have ever met and is the friendliest ive ever met, i suppose it differs with the different types of cats there are
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Fuck
>Edit the Weaponsmith bench to not need Blacksmith
>Now interacting with other benches crashes the game
Ugh, I'll just take the 2perk hit on this bitch
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fuck... i don't think i should have put so many lights in this thing.
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>>186872279
now it looks better
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>>186872424
what ever replacer you have is shit for piper
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>>186872503
yea, i should fill that church with more stuff soon. but i will flatten the ground a bit so i can build more buildings.
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>>186870030
>ghouls are the only grotesque enemies in FO4
>all Bethesda should've done is gone one step further
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I never use companions desu
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>Cut Content:
>Textures and sounds for a compound bow and corresponding arrows.
>A number of meshes for Throwing Weapons, including: blade, harpoon, hatchet, saw, and bottle.
I hate my life
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>>186848379

That is quite possibly the best Fallout 4 screenshot I've ever seen, it actually makes the game look great.

Good job.
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>>186854594
Well good news to anyone doing a MM play through, the only faction you have to destroy is the Institute. There are several guides online on how and with how goodie goodie it is I don't doubt Bethesda will allude, if not outright, make it the canon ending.
>>
What hazing would a Raider or Tribal group have for new members? Khans beat their shit, but I bet the NCR has the same shit the US Military has, like getting your mattress stamped by the quarterdeck, checking your seabag for watertightness, or looking for nonexistant vertibird keys.
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>>186872424
She looks like a gremlin. Almost every replacer I've ever seen that's like "CUTE!" or "HOT!" is fucking garbage.
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>>186875404
this
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>>186869782

Marketing.

- Vault Boy
- Nuka-Cola
- le 50s music
- le 50s humor
- Super Mutants
- No killable kids
- The aesthetic

All with the express purpose of creating brand recognition.
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>>186875884
That'd be some crazy longgame shit.

>Whore out Skyrim for shekels for development
>Use Fallout 4 to draw in dudebro faggots
>Ambush them with a New Vegas-tier dark-ass and proper game
>Get their shekels and expose them to proper RPGs, showing them that all their favorite shit doesn't have to be wrapped in bacon and glitter all the time

But I have difficulty giving them that much credit.
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>>186875884
>Super Mutants
>Ghouls as Zombies
I'm sick of this.
I'm going to mod out all the Super Mutants from the Commonwealth and remove all the cemetery Ghouls
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>>186876225
>Have made shit skinnerboxes for decades
>Pretend it's some 20D chess where they'll magically churn out something good
What are these delusions powered by.
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>>186876392
Fusion cores
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>>186876392
I don't actually think that's the case, and I said so. I hate Fallout 4 with a passion, and if that were the case, those fucking faggot cunt nigger jews wouldn't have tried to sabotage New Vegas so hard.
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>>186876225

>But I have difficulty giving them that much credit.

I don't. Bethesda is Legion-tier when it comes to marketing and lying through Todd Howard. They know people fall for campy stuff. Fallout never had campy, it had some dark humor, but never anything Little Lamplight levels of campyness.

Super Mutants weren't just evil people to kill, they were HUMAN which is something that was lost in transition as well as the humanity of ghouls, which have become monsters too. It is much more impactful to see a ghoul walking towards you because that's how a human would most likely work in that state of decay. By making them run like Usain Bolt you are saying they are something else altogether, and not human.
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>>186876530
They didn't sabotage NV and would never need to.
Black Isle has a storied history of both sequels and original IP notorious for their gamebreaking bugs and glitches.
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>>186876541
>usain bolt isn't human
I fucking knew it
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>>186876657
>Black Isle
Obsidian, obviously.
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>>186876657
They meddled hard, from what I remember. Really got in the way, because they wanted to absorb Obsidian. Unfortunately for them, FONV blew their games out of the water in terms of depth, freedom, and RPG elements, and they finished it despite unreasonable demands. Subsequently, Bethesda has gone on to pretend New Vegas doesn't exist.

>>186876541
Yeah, the lore that Bethesda fucked with is annoying, especially as far as FEV effects go, but ghouls being 2fast I can understand. It's like the limiter's off, isn't it? They're dashing around like madmen because they have no self preservation left, so they're punching you so hard that they're breaking their own bones as much as yours. That's how I interpreted it, anyway. It'd be nice if a mod made that more blatant.
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>>186876668

He's a nigger, of course he is not human.

>Black Isle has a storied history of both sequels and original IP notorious for their gamebreaking bugs and glitches.

New Vegas' problems go beyond the glitches, it's a matter of development time and the fact the game was released just a year before Skyrim using 2008 assets, which were already ugly as hell back in 2008.
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>>186877056
>Subsequently, Bethesda has gone on to pretend New Vegas doesn't exist.
>References it in FO4
>Clothes, items and NPCs in Shelter
>Vegas sign in their Pipboy minigame
I love this meme so much. You can really taste the salt.
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>>186877056

It would be interesting to see Ghouls having a chance to literally break down when they run at you.

I understood the change as being a consequence of the shift from isometric to 3D FPS. Just install The Walking Dead for New Vegas and you will see that walking ghouls are extremely easy pickings.

The issue is that Ghouls were never meant to be this annoying enemy that was literally fucking everywhere in the game, Fallout relied almost exclusively on human enemies, and the endgame consisted of Super Mutants and robots.
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>>186877208
Surely you don't think disproving the minor implications of hyperbole don't disprove the intent behind the statement. Are you seven, lol?
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Would you?
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>>186877208

They never TALK about New Vegas. It simply doesn't exist in discussions, there's a huge empty void between Fallout 3 and Fallout 4 that Todd doesn't want to touch because he knows he would get burned hard.

It's much easier to see Fallout 4 has this "huge improvement" when you compare it to Fallout 3. But if you compare it to New Vegas? It's a joke.

I would love to see Todd saying "Fallout 4 really expanded on the choices offered in New Vegas, it took skill checks to a whole new level with multiple paths for each quest depending on your build. We also took a note from Obsidian and made combat less important in the game's quests."
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>>186877376

Not in a lifetime. You can just as easily rape a woman and kill her afterwards. Not like anyone's gonna bother and scientific police doesn't exist anymore.
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>>186877256
Now that you mention it, there certainly was a shitload of ghouls, wasn't there? A better thing, I think, would be to make FO less of an FPS. Less enemies, more dangerous intelligence, ammunition more rare and valuable, etc. That'd be a more interesting experience, probably, where stumbling into a camp of 4 Raiders alone is something to really shit your pants over. I imagine that shotguns and .22 pistols and rifles would become extremely common, and a .308 would be a luxury. Laser weapons would be more rare and fragile, but ammo would last much longer when acquired.

That sounds like a much better game.

>>186877405
This, absolutely. Well fucking put.
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>>186877080
>it's a matter of development time
Yes and as usual Obsidian spent their time unwisely. They do this for every single game and it's going to end in their bankruptcy and closure.

>>186877286
If I were I'd still be older than your salty ass.
Why is it that you Obsidian fanboys can't face facts about them fucking up every chance they get?

>>186877405
>They never TALK about New Vegas. It simply doesn't exist in discussions,
And then there's this stupidity.
It's a spinoff, not a mainline title.
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>>186877665
Hahaha, you sure like to call people salty, but you sound a little upset, friend. Maybe you should just make better games, you short piece of shit.
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>>186876668
I mean even ol' sanic negro would only be able to hobble if half of his legs sloughed off
they even made a point of some ghouls mentioning that they can't run anymore in the older games, now they fucking fly at you because "lol lore is for nerds, zombies are kewl"
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>>186877376
No
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>>186877405
Why would Bethesda talk about a game they didn't make?
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>>186877753
Stay salty.
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>>186877760
>they even made a point of some ghouls mentioning that they can't run anymore in the older games
That is some good info, man. You've convinced me completely.
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>>186877849
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>>186877405
>Spinoff title that has nothing to do with them
>"They're afraid to bring it up"
How are Obsidian fanboys this dumb?
Does someone need to walk up to them, take their hand and dump exposition at them?
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>>186877405
it also doesn't exist internally evidently
>obsidian figures out segmented reloads
>bethesda disregards it completely when implementing their lever rifle
>obsidian makes a nice little companion wheel that everyone likes
>bethesda disregards it completely
>>186877861
that's nice dear
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>>186877624

>That sounds like a much better game.

It would be, because that's what Fallout used to be for the most part: facing the entire Khan camp was something to seriously considered. In Fallout 3 you are killing raiders left and right after leaving the Vault.

It's also why I feel Ghost Town Gunfight is a huge wasted potential because of the gameplay of New Vegas inherited from FO3: it's just too easy, and thus convincing the townsfolk to help you out is trivial.

>>186877665

>Yes and as usual Obsidian spent their time unwisely. They do this for every single game and it's going to end in their bankruptcy and closure.

And still they manage to make much better RPGs than Bethesda ever will. If they are going to end up in bankruptcy and closure, it is not because of bugs and glitches (which Bethesda has plenty in their games). It because they cater to a much smaller demographic, nothing more, nothing less.

You think someone refused to play Pillars of Eternity because of glitches, or because it wasn't another open world 3D first person RPG?

>And then there's this stupidity. It's a spinoff, not a mainline title.

>WE DIDN'T MAKE IT, SO WE CAN IGNORE IT

It's stuff like this that make me know you are retarded. I would very much hold in consideration whatever good things Fallout 4 did to carry them over to a new Fallout title.
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Look I don't give a shit if you have fun playing a video game, the world NEEDS to know whether it's better or worse than this other video game
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I want NMA to leave.
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>>186878018
>franchise they own, universe they're in charge of, engine they made, game they published
>"nothing to do with them"
you know this obsidian hate bait circlejerk is kind of tired, why don't you just find something else to do?
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>>186878154
You're missing the point. Why would Bethesda talk about a game they didn't make when it's better for them to improve upon themselves and talk about that? If Obsidian were to make a new Fallout they'd be talking about improving upon NV, not 4 because it's their game, their work that they would want to be improving.
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>>186877839

Because it was like Fallout 3, but better. And it would be reasonable to expect them to use New Vegas as a base when making their next game, at the very least, hold onto the things it did good.

Like this >>186878030

>obsidian figures out segmented reloads
>bethesda disregards it completely when implementing their lever rifle
>obsidian makes a nice little companion wheel that everyone likes
>bethesda disregards it completely

I used to think like you before, but then I thought it better and it makes perfect sense: you don't talk about a game that did a lot of things better than your game, and "we didn't make it" is a fantastic excuse that falls apart under scrutiny. How can you possible ignore the good things it did in favor of getting rid of skill checks altogether, adding a voiced protagonist and turning the game into a full blown shooter? Easy: by pretending that the last real title was Fallout 3 and NV was something else that doesn't count.

Fallout 3:

- Considerable amount of backstory.
- Heavy emphasis on combat, killing Raiders and Super Mutants left and right.
- Retarded skill checks based on dice rolls.

Fallout 4:

- Even more backstory, and this time your character has a voice to related even more!
- Even heavier emphasis on combat, but this time the combat is better!
- No skill checks except a Charisma roll.
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>>186878030
Aww man, the improvements NV made that were ignored for this Borderlands-tier memetrash narrative and gameplay fucking kills me. What a step back, not to mention the complexity of conflict resolution or objective accomplishment that New Vegas had. The Great Khan destruction or recruitment or the same of the BoS is fucking CRAZY in its variety of approaches and resolutions as well as the consequences.

>>186878154
It's also why I feel Ghost Town Gunfight is a huge wasted potential because of the gameplay of New Vegas inherited from FO3: it's just too easy, and thus convincing the townsfolk to help you out is trivial.
Yeah, I see what you mean. One of the mandatory mods for me is the tweaking of combat AI and damage values to somewhat mitigate this problem.

>>186878237
Now that's a fuckin' reaction image. Gives me inspiration.

>>186878018
Pic
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>>186878449

>You're missing the point. Why would Bethesda talk about a game they didn't make when it's better for them to improve upon themselves and talk about that?

You answered the question yourself: because they didn't improve on New Vegas, they improved upon Fallout 3, which was worse than New Vegas.

If Bethesda had improved on New Vegas as well, they would talk about it.

>If Obsidian were to make a new Fallout they'd be talking about improving upon NV, not 4 because it's their game, their work that they would want to be improving.

In New Vegas' Making Of documentary the people explicitly talk about Fallout 3 and what they did to improve on it. They didn't talk about the things they improved over FO1 and FO2, but what did they do with the things that they felt Fallout 3 did well.

That Bethesda doesn't do the same has a logical reason, and frankly it would be worrying if I didn't already know they will never let go of Fallout.
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>>186878154
>>>WE DIDN'T MAKE IT, SO WE CAN IGNORE IT
Yes, exactly. It's a spinoff title. Nothing more nothing less.
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>>186878617
Your waifu is fucking trash bro and this invalidates your opinion.

GTFO
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>>186878643

Get checked for mental illness because my prognosis isn't good.
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Fallout 3 and 4 are games by a developer
Fallout New Vegas is a different game by a different developer

Both games take an approach that is different from the other.

One is arguably better than the other but the existence of an argument means that some people like one, while disliking the other. Some people like both for what they are.

But let's continue to flog the dead horse. One day one side will prove the other wrong, right?
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>>186878917
Sorry to hear that you're mentally unwell. I hope you get well soon.
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>>186848379
If NV was made with FO3 assets and Bethesda improved upon those assets doesn't that mean FO4 improved upon Vegas?
I just want to get in on this autism lads
It's 10 AM and I'm ready to be educated
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>Fallout 4 being in any way competitive with New Vegas in terms of quality as an RPG
I thought this was just a meme. Do you have brain problems?

>>186878945
Fallout 4 did what it did very well, I just hate what it did. There's plenty that's fantastic about it. Engine is good, character models are great, etc. I just wish they'd made the FPS they clearly wanted to, set in Fallout's universe.
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>>186878945

>But let's continue to flog the dead horse. One day one side will prove the other wrong, right?

There's already one wrong side: the side that believes it is good to ignore the improvements made by another game simply because you didn't make it. This is so retarded I can't believe people actually defend it. Bethesda literally does the opposite by incorporating mods into their games and by blatantly ripping off others (Autumn Leaves) as well.

Once again, it's clear Bethesda doesn't mention New Vegas during conferences or interviews and the like because it means, by consequence, admitting (or desperately avoiding to admit) that Fallout 4 is lacking in many different aspects compared to it.

They certainly didn't have any problem talking about Fallout and Fallout 2 in their own Fallout 3 Making Of documentary, but ashfabsalsgabshgbalsg.
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>>186877376
I really hate that they made this canon.
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>>186879203
Mods are made with Bethesda's assets on Bethesda's software for Bethesda games, I'm pretty sure they own them by default.
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>>186879096

Bethesda (arguably, as aesthetic is a matter of opinion) improved on FO3 assets and parts of its gameplay.

But New Vegas relied exclusively on its writing and quests to be good. And FO3 assets have nothing to do with that, you could just as easily turn New Vegas into an isometric game and writing and quests would be just as good (quite possibly much better without the restrictions from voice acting, less buggy engine, and so on).
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>>186879203
Don't reply to me with an argument when I literally just stated the argument is retarded. Reply to one of the other faggots that's actually debating you.
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>>186879203
Yup.
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>>186879316

What I mean is they stole someone else's ideas. Just like how lending a carpenter wood and tools doesn't mean you thought of that wooden artwork yourself.
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>>186879203
>Once again, it's clear Bethesda doesn't mention New Vegas during conferences or interviews and the like because it means
Means it's not their game and they don't need to bring it up. Its a spinoff title. What they care about is the mainline titles which they''re overseeing now.

Stop being salty.
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>>186879336
>makes a statement regarding the validity of an argument
>points made are addressed directly by a response
>pretends to be above it all, holier than thou
We all know it's you, anyway.
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>>186879332
I meant assets improved, unless you want to pretend that somehow means artistic vision I'm going to tell you now it means the graphical quality and resolution on a technical level.
>FNV would be better as an isometric
I mean it would've sold a lot worse if that's what you mean. Isos are boring as shit by definition.
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>>186879203
>Bethesda literally does the opposite by incorporating mods into their games and by blatantly ripping off others
Itsokaywhenobsidiondoesit.jpeg
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8yrs from now when the next Bethesda Fallout Title is released these people will still be here with the same exact posts.

They can't let go.
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>>186879516
>We all know it's you, anyway.
Are you retarded? I think you're retarded.
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>>186879472
How do you know they stole it? Intellectual property rights are well protected in the USA, don't you think that one of those who had their intellectual property stolen would speak up?
Like I get you hate Bethesda but they aren't the fucking mob or the boogeyman under your bed
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>>186859067
got u senpai
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>>186879498
>Means it's not their game and they don't need to bring it up. Its a spinoff title
Not that guy, but 4 has several references to NV, they're small sure, but its enough to prove they acknowledge its existence in the canon world so calling it a "spin off" really isn't fair, imho
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>>186879740
It really is sad when you look at the timeframe. The same people have been whining for nearly a decade.
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>>186879989
This is funny because I brought that up to prove him wrong and he said it didn't count because lmaoreasons.
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Please help me, my waifu is awful
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>>186879740
Dead Money is still my favourite DLC. The writing is great, the atmosphere is great too, gameplay was fine in my opinion. I can see why people wouldn't care for the last part of the casino but I never understood all the hatred for the collars, I got blown up like 3 times in 5 runs.
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>>186880264
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>>186879740
I bought Fallout 4 on preorder because I had faith in the game and was betrayed. They made such grand, sweeping boasts about the game, all of which proved totally false. The game is focused entirely on putting teddy bears in LAWL FUNNY places instead of making a deep and engrossing story. The only people that actually give a fuck about any of the characters or events do so because it suits their specific tastes, which the game panders to. Piper's design is great, as is Nick's for instance. The adventurous, spunky journalist with a penchant for nicknames and the hardboiled noir detective with just the right voice. That's where the good shit ends, however.

An example is that in FONV, at Camp Forlorn Hope, the flag is flown upside down. You can help out with various problems the refugee camp is facing, including a mysterious sniper who is using guerilla tactics to kill refugees and NCR soldiers. Approaching with Boone or dressed as NCR when you manage to find the sniper results in a fight. Not seeming affiliated with them results in conversation, instead. You can cause him to stop fighting based on a speech check and go live with the Khans proper, you could convince him to go and punish the NCR directly by attacking Camp MacCarran (and he does a stellar job btw), or I think there's two other resolutions that I can't remember, one of which is probably to keep going as-is. However you resolve it, aside from maintaining the status quo, you obtain a way to get the last supplies from Khan caches and can deliver them to the Camp. If you don't warn them of the irradiated supplies, they still accept them gratefully, and the area becomes slightly irradiated shortly thereafter. Speaking with the refugees now reveals that they are experiencing radiation sickness symptoms and the supplies meant to help them, unwittingly, poison them further, killing the inhabitants and making the camp impossible to live in, vicariously exacting the Khans' revenge.
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>>186880393
Whereas Fallout 4 has a few different ways for you to shoot what amounts to a Raider dressed in a different cute little outfit.

But hey, at least there's teddy bears fucking in literally every building, right?
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>>186880353
I will never become a waifusmith
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>>186880264
how does she eat without a lower jaw?
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>>186880393
>because I had faith in the game
It's a fucking Bethesda title. You hyped yourself up and got played. Anyone with a brain knows to expect a skinnerbox for porn and fetish material. That's all they really make.

Everyone knew it was a trainwreck from the gameplay footage at E3 being settlement garbage and explosions to 60's music.

Like damn nigga, they've been putting out shit games for decades and you think the fault is anyone's but your own? Fucking hell.
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>>186880657
>skinnerbox
Yes we get it, you learned a meme phrase.
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>>186880264
Seeing bad waifus makes me feel better about my own.
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>>186880657
I avoid trailers and such actively. I liked Fallout 3 quite a bit and Fallout New Vegas blew my fucking mind. I expected Fallout 4 to continue the trend. You seem to just enjoy making this sort of vitriolic reply, makes you feel like you "won." The snarkiest and most cynical guy must know the most, right? It's kinda silly.
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>>186880897
>I pre ordered a game without even bothering to research it waaaah feel bad for me
Fuck no little dumbass I got a few things for you to pre order for me. Totally legit
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>>186880754
S K I N N E R B O X
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>>186880956
You sound upset. You okay there, bud?
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>>186880846
What is that outfit?
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>>186880897
>I avoid trailers and such actively.
Then you're an utter fucking moron that flushed money down the drain of his own volition.

You don't buy anything without first doing some research on it.
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>>186881101
I'm not the one who wasted money on FO4, I'm literally better than you in every way.
I bet you pre ordered andromeda as soon as you heard "new mass effect" and got sad you were burnt over that too
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>>186881110
Your moms. I forgot to give it back.
http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/11647/?
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>>186881236
Thanks, boss. I thought it was but I didn't want to suggest it outright.
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>>186880517
She lost it in a tragic surgery accident.

>>186880846
That's pretty good.
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>>186881115
That's certainly generally true, but the problem is that if you "know" you're going to like something, researching something often results in spoilers out the ass. Growing up, buying Metal Gear Solid or Pokemon games required no research whatsoever. You knew exactly what you were going to get, and "research" would do nothing but spoil aspects of it.

>>186881189
Nope, it was an extremely rare situation for me to do that. Typically I borrow it or otherwise acquire it and if it's worth it, I'll buy it. An example where that kind of thing ruins it is Spec Ops: The Line.

Protip, if you have to try this hard to convince yourself and others that you're better than others, the problem is you and runs deep. Maybe talk to someone about it. Not me though, I don't care.
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>>186879671

I think you missed the point entirely.

Obsidian acknowledges the world around them (FO1, FO2, FO3, mods).

Bethesda apparently doesn't (New Vegas and its improvements), yet at the same time does (FO1, FO2, incorporating mods and ripping off other mods).
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>>186881330
thats fucking grim
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>>186881330
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3cdk2Fs2CP0
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>>186879850

Yes, because taking things to court with one of the biggest videogame companies of the moment will surely turn out well for the Autumn Leaves author. /s
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>>186881189
Good lord was Andromeda shit. MP was okay but not ME3MP tier.

The worst thing about it was how they were hyping up the whole wild west new frontier shit and it's just so goddamn stale and tame.
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>>186881330
Just start over man, this one is fucked.

Follow the protip in my picture and you'll get a better result.
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>>186880846
Oh give me a fucking break.You're obviously really proud of that dude considering you've been fishing for (You)s witth the same 4 screenshots over the last three threads.
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Is the sexual mod good yet?
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>>186881941
No.
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>>186881885
4 screenshots across 3 threads isn't fishing for (You)'s my mans.
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Do you guys think there are too many settlements?
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>>186878525
>Ryuko
Muh nigga
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>want to spice up my new run
>try to find a piper face replacer
>creepy korean MMO dolls and teenage waifus oozing makeup

Guess I asked for it. Which replacer do you guys use? I'm not looking for some super gritty realistic shit either, just an attractive young woman.
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>>186882029
thanks, saved me from hours of fucking around for nothing
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>>186882130
>Ryuko
Are you kidding me
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>>186879850
Until recently the Creation Kits EULA specified that anything created with the CK it is pretty much owned by Zenimax.

That only recently changed in May or June or something when they made a ninja change to the EULA where modauthors now retain the rights to their work, but give Zenimax an an irrevocable, perpetual, royalty-free, fully paid, worldwide, non-exclusive right and license, with the right to sublicense through multiple tiers of distribution, to use, reproduce, modify and create derivative works. Meaning Zenimax can do whatever the fuck they want with mods, but if any mod on Bethesda.net would break a law,only the Modauthor is legible.
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>>186882137
The loli replacer.
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>>186881656
Any idea on how to reset all face parameters?
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>>186882130
>>186882350
I typo'd the filename. Ryoko is correct, as is Ryo-Ohki.

Either way, patrician taste fellas.
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>>186882665
change her face preset
Start with default Nora, change her nose a bit, maybe her eyes, cheekbones, work from there. Alt+tab a bit after each modification and come back after a few seconds with a "fresh" look, you might have trouble noticing bad changes otherwise.
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>crack open a 200 year old pre-war installation
>fight my way past the automated defenses that kept the place clear for two centuries
>find radroach and molerat meat in old lunchpals
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I want to say I became aware of my avatar fagging which is why I decided to stop posting Elizabeth pictures until it becomes relevant.
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>>186882975
Fuck, I hate that kind of thing.
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>>186882992
That's a good start. Now stop posting entirely and we can all be happy.
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>>186882975
But anon, clearly those were regular cockroach sandwiches that mutated when the bombs fell. According to the novels,
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>Not a waifufag
>The best visual mods for player models and clothing are all waifushit for female characters
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>>186882671
>as is Ryo-Ohki.
You're doing this on purpose, right.
That's the name of the fucking ship/cabbit/her fucking sister
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>>186882350
Shhhh it doesn't help I'm slightly drunk and didn't notice it was a typo, just let it happen.
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>>186883116
That wont change either. Fallout 4 is one the same level as Skyrim in terms of waifufaggotry.
Meaning you will barely find any male armors, but you can choose between 12 different versions of HD eyelashes replacers for waifus.
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>>186883116

I know that feel, bro. Except FNV has no good clothing and hair mods.
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I'm afraid weebshits have to leave, sorry.
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>>186883116
>Want to waifumod Fallout VR
>It won't support mods
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>>186883515
You have the objectively worst taste when it comes to hair tho.
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>>186883331
Yep. All my files but one are named properly and are OC. I watched the show not too long ago and made a few images.
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>>186882992
>>186883515
shitposter die
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>>186883515
She looks like a Realdoll. The kind of thing that someone would put in their LARP bunker, just in case.
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>>186883652
>falling for the VR meme
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>>186883652
>Falling for the VR meme
Wait several years and for it to not be in a strangle hold by shit companies jacking the price up
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i have successfully flattened the ground at spectacle island, i will build more of the city tomorrow.
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>>186883675

Taste is subjective and Elizabeth looks cute.

>>186883825

That's a fantastic compliment considering Realdolls are hot as fuck with no imperfections.
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>>186884017
That looks hideous.
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>>186884017
>ruining a beautiful island wilderness

For what purpose
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Daily reminder that your waifu sucks and your favorite Fallout is shit.
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>>186883827
When the game comes out and its a haven of waifumodding you and the other poorshits who can't afford VR are going to be so salty.
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Ryoko was my first waifu as a kid. Seeing the show again was a real trip, especially since the only time I saw the episodes was shit like when my mom was getting her nails done in some Korean nail place or at a cousin's house.

>>186884017
>>186884115
He was going for a Manifest Destiny aesthetic I guess.

>>186884139
Lol you're still here?
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>>186884017
Stop posting.
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>>186884213
Hiiiii everyone!! ^_^ My name is ryokosan (I love tenchi!!) im going to be using avatars here so you can all get to know my posts (lol) I hope you come to like meee im a lil shy!! x.x'''
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>>186882975
IT'S OK PIPE PISTOLS WERE ON A MAGAZINE COVER AND JET IS PRE WAR
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>>186884017
>gets a nice forested island
>turns it into a literal brick
Don't post your (((((progress)))) nobody want to see it.
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Your character becomes a Golden Globes pornstar in New Reno. What is his/her nickname and why?
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>>186884213
> Ryoko was my first waifu as a kid. Seeing the show again was a real trip, especially since the only time I saw the episodes was shit like when my mom was getting her nails done in some Korean nail place or at a cousin's house.
Why are you blogposting?
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>>186884313
lol

>>186884448
Try and stop me.
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>>186884017
Reload .
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>>186881348
>>186880897
>what are spoiler free reviews and competently made demos/trailers
>I just blindly trust companies because I did 20 years ago
r e t a r d
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>>186884387
Rock Bottoms.
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>>186884387
Sir Lance-a-lot every time
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>>186884387
Courier Seven, because he's got a 7" package to deliver
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>>186884556
>what are spoiler free reviews and competently made demos/trailers
I'd rather play the game myself for free than rely upon another's interpretations and opinion. You can't decide things for yourself? Need blogs and (((reviews))) to tell you what games to like, eh?

>I just blindly trust companies because I did 20 years ago
If that's what you got out of it, I'm not surprised you can't form coherent thoughts about games without someone else giving you a baseline to start from.

Try not to chug too much glue, it ain't healthy.
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>>186884753
Not him but the problem is if you are going to preorder, from any company, it's better to actually look into it. If the game is already out the yeah getting it through some means then deciding wether or not to buy it is the entirety way.
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>>186885060
>The entirety way
What the fuck phone
Is entirely the best way*
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>>186884753
>That's certainly generally true, but the problem is that if you "know" you're going to like something, researching something often results in spoilers out the ass. Growing up, buying Metal Gear Solid or Pokemon games required no research whatsoever. You knew exactly what you were going to get, and "research" would do nothing but spoil aspects of it.
yeah that's what I got out of it
>n-no I pirate to try, haha got you
>I bought Fallout 4 on preorder because I had faith in the game
yeah pre-ordering isn't trying it free
retard
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>>186885060
You're not wrong, it absolutely was a mistake in hindsight. I just didn't expect Fallout 4 to be so fucking bad. Fallout had gained my trust over the course of most of my life, and this latest one just completely broke the mold. I expected it to at least be something good enough to be worth modding, but the last time I played, the dialog structure was so utterly fucked and devoid of variation that it was unfathomable that it would be the case. The voiced protagonist hinted that what was in vanilla would be more restrictive, but I figured it'd be an experimental game. Feel the new way out, you know? But the dialog structure's just straight fuckin' busted, the total forgoing of any ability to truly branch dialog is beyond the pale. It feels like it's been years since I last played. I played it for a few days until the glitz and glamour wore off and the horror set in that the game was just... soulless.

Playing New Vegas with mods like Solid Project feels so much better that it's not even funny, but the environments of Fallout 4 sure are nice.

>>186885339
>Generally speaking this is the case
>But with game A, I made an exception which I regret.
>LOL GOT U U MADE AN EXCEPTION FOR GAME A GOT U STAY SALTY KID RETARD LOL

Do you actually read the things you post? It's kinda cute the way you sort of stumble around.
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>>186884753
Now before anybody dismisses this as obvious bait by someone merely pretending to be a drooling windowlicking retard weeb waifufag, let me remind you that this is /vg/ and thus entirely normal.
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>>186885850
autism speaks
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>>186885836
yeah, you were retarded for making that exception, say whatever you will you still pre ordered a game on faith without doing research, and nothing you say changes that
fucking retard
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>>186885836
>>But with game A, I made an exception which I regret.
Exactly so you're a retard.
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>>186882975
>implying you are the first one to be in there since the war
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>>186886020
>>186886162
It's funny that you just can't help yourself. You have to try and "win" somehow. Did you not get enough validation at home or something?

Your future
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PpksxP-eN8I
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>>186885836
Every Bethesda title in the last decade, from FO3 over Oblivion to Skyrim, was considered a huge letdown compared to the previous titles by fans.
But you're obviously some underage hapa dipshit who grew up with Fallout 3 and probably thought it was the greatest game of all time when you played it on your Xbox 360.
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>>186886212
And Morrowind
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>>186886193
we don't need to win, you already lost your money
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>>186886212
not him but fo4 is better than fo3.
There is always a small group of shitposters who bitch about everything and make it look like everyone hates the game. True for all games, not only bethesda.
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>>186886193
Not either of them but they don't have to try to win at all.
Pre-ordering any game EVER, is retarded.

If Valve and Blizzard would announce tomorrow that they hired Hideo Kojima, Sid Meier and John Carmack to create the most expensive RPG-Shooter-Flying Sim-VR Sexgame that will be directly delivered to my door by a prostitute that will suck my dick while playing i would STILL not pre-order it.
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>>186886212
Nah, I was a broke-ass nigga growing up. Didn't get my own shit and all the games until I was in the military. First game I played on my own was New Vegas, as the "wild west" aesthetic drew me in, on a computer which I cobbled together. I still remember having to bake the videocard in the oven to heal microfractures in the solder.

Similarly, I was disappointed in Skyrim, although with that one I'd played Oblivion first. The way everything you do in Skyrim is a fuckin' draugr dungeon is a huge letdown. Fallout 4 and Skyrim both amount to a series of fetch quests and slaughter tunnels. Very boring.

>>186886383
That's a good-ass pic. I'm saving that one. Also the first good point you've made, congrats. Please feel free to use it to make yourself feel as though you were correct in all regards to stave off the existential dread one more day.
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>>186886349
No, morrowind is literally perfect.

>>186886557
FO3 and FO4 are both turds. Doesn't really matter which flavor the turd comes in.
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>>186886582
well if it's a high class escort and not just a red light ho then the blowjob might be worth the pre order price alone
>>186886672
>already disappointment by skyrim
>by their next game on faith with 0 research anyway
holy retard
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>>186886702
Nope. Fallout 4 can be a sandbox game. You don't need writing for a sandbox.
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>>186886672
>that retarded level of blogposting
That's it i'm calling the cops.
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>>186886582
You're correct in that. Like I said, it was an exception which I regret, not a mistake I've repeated. That being said, I also did buy in to Rust and hate that game too, but that was endorsed by every peer I've got. Shame the devs are dragging ass forever and have gone somewhat SJW lately in addition to ruining a few mechanics, causing the playerbase to spike directly after resets and then everyone that isn't top dog or a contender dropping off until the reset.
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>>186886805
People, and game devs, can make mistakes. You've never learned a lesson the hard way? You sure do use that one word a lot. Did you used to get bullied and called that all the time or something? Getting that vibe where you've got something to prove and a specific way to do it, like rape victims that become hypersexual.
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What are the chances my FO4 save will still be there to load up when I reinstall the game?
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>>186886871
Fallout 3 is more of a sandbox than Fallout 4 though.
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>>186886212
>know fallout 4 will be even dumbered down compared to rimjob
>but exited for skyrim porn mods: robots and ghouls edition
>no script extender and 64 bit havok means that modding proceeds at a snails pace and everyone but complete autists lose interest
>just starting to get mods, but can't even code gags to keep their mouths open
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>>186887110
Should be there. The saves are in My Documents > Games > Fallout 4 or something, aren't they?

Unless you mean on console, but even then it should save in a separate directory.
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>>186887110
High. You should have them backed up anyway.
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>>186887110
Chances are good, but let me in on a rarely known secret:
Your saves are actually stored on your hard drive. Meaning you can, check this out, back them up!
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>>186887110
unless you turned off steam cloud and deleted your documents folder then it'll be there
>>186887039
no, I had common sense surprisingly, there's making a bad pre-order and then there's going in blind on purpose after already knowing their poor track record and expecting people not to call you a retard
retard
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>>186886212
Skyrim wasn't a let down, not after Oblivion. Oblivion was really not great outside of shivering isles. Neither comes close to Morrowind.
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>>186886702
>>No, morrowind is literally perfect.
Sure if you go for the /v/ meme.
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>>186887608
Even /v/ is sometimes right.
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>This entire thread
Never change /fog/
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>>186887759
broken clocks and all that
morrowind is good, but I don't know if it's actually perfect
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>>186887506
lol whatever you have to say to prove it to yourself, bud. Good luck dealing with whatever you've got going on, you don't seem to be doing well so far. After all, this is as good as it's going to get. You've wasted too much time, prioritized too many wrong things. Maybe it's time to just give up?
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>>186887768
>he still thinks /fog/ is merely pretending
If only i were still this innocent.
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>>186887853
>get fleeced by todd's lies and your own ineptitude
>well y-your life sucks
keep going
retard
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>pay attention to me
>i have to prove something to you and myself for over an hour
>i am better than you
>retard
>retard
>retard
Lol whatever you say, kid. Enjoy that last (You).
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>>186887890
Oh I know they aren't, that just makes it funnier.
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This is long wavy haired Elizabeth

Good luck and prosperity will come to you but if only if you reply "thank you spike haired angel" to this post

if you don't, Fallout 5 will release will less RPG features and only two classes to choose from
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>2017
>courier still posting smug anime girls and shitposting

its like I never left
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>>186887853
>>186888005
>Todd's lies are the biggest meme about Bethesda
>He fell for them
>He expected us to feel bad about it
>He's still trying to salvage the conversation by segueing into the quality other people's lives
>All because he fell for the sweet little lies
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>>186848379
Is that you, Linus?
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>>186888164
>kid
psssh, nothing personel dummy
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>>186852731
Uhh, push him.
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>>186888565
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>>186888254
Put Sunny's hair style back on that abomination, at least that way it's tolerable to look at
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>>186888693
>Pineapple pizza
Fucking degenerate
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Lol, remember, if you're smug, you win. That's how 4chan works.
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>>186888868
"belong on a cross" etc
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>>186888791

Why don't you like my waifu? What is it that you don't like about her, and what would you change about her?
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>>186888978
That is correct
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>>186888907
>He's not smug
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>>186889062
I already stated it didn't I?
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>>186888693
>>186888868
>>186888565
I will never understand this meme, it's a bit weird but it tastes fine, nothing like what the chinese, japs, and koreans consider "pizza"
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>>186889079
I always wondered why his goggles were so blacked out. Is it like sunglasses? Or just because it looks cool?
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Who else /lurkingandplayingfalloutwhilewaitingfortheshittiestpostersinthisgeneraltoworkouttheirautism/?
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>>186889172
That's more of a pizza than fucking pineapples.

I bet you think sauce, cheese and some pepperoni on a watermelon is still a pizza.
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>>186889212
Possibly grabbed a set of welding goggles, then the question is how the fuck does he see.
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>>186889169

No, just the hairstyle. What does a good waifu look like to you?
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>>186888385
>paragraphs of blogposting to justify his stupidity
>armchair psychology and imagining others' lives as miserable to make himself feel better
no but remember, WE'RE trying to prove something
almost sad he's convinced himself he's won, this was great fun
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>>186889226
If people worked out their autism no one would post here.
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This is one of the worst threads I've ever seen in my life, /v/faggots, namefaggots and tripfaggots thinking they're welcome, waifufaggots blogging like anyone gives a shit. This general has been ruined.
I genuinely, actually hope all of you that apply to any of these have boiling water poured down your throats. You worthless pathetic pieces of shit, the one place on this site you can discuss Fallout 4 and you ruin it by being children, hang yourselves
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How do you enjoy Fallout 4? I can't get over the whole "muh baby" shit. I know theres a mod to get rid of it, but it just turns "muh baby" into "Someone elses baby" which is just as bad.

Alternate start as someone outside the vault is shit too, as I need to do all the main quest to unlock the DLC. I imagine when you get to the DLC its also more "muh baby".

Fuck Beth for being so damn limiting.
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>>186889349
Hairstyle goes a long way, especially since the best you have is a potato tier face, not your fault, but you haven't tried to fix it.
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>>186889391
Look at him, he's still going. He's still trying to do it.

>>186889412
Nice blog, faggot.
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>>186889273
That's not a fucking correlation, shithead. Sauce, cheese, and pepperoni on a pineapple isn't pizza either. But sauce, cheese, pepperoni and pineapple on dough is a pizza and so is sauce cheese pepperoni and watermelon on dough.
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>>186889391
>we
Retard
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>>186889448
>as I need to do all the main quest to unlock the DLC
No you don't, play the game before whining about it retard
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>>186889273
but why? without just regurgitating /ck/ memes what makes pinapple worse than all the other weird shit people put on pizza, and why does it matter if it tastes alright?
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>>186889573
Don't reply to me you weeb obshitter faggot
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>>186889656
Shit tastes alright to flies but I bet you wouldn't eat that.
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>>186889578
I talked to him, and all the posts weren't me, so it stands to reason that he's asshurt at more than one person
>>186889573
dance monkey dance
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>>186889510

Is the blame on GameBryo or on my waifu's face? Personally I think she looks great given I use the vanilla assets (aside from textures), and even so I think she looks great anyways.

Certainly much better than FCO-tier abominations.
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>>186889172
It's mostly tongue-in-cheek, surely. It's fine enough, as far as pizza goes.

>>186889297
That's a good-sounding guess. I can't imagine trying to use welding goggles for anything but welding though. Maybe he literally applied window tint to goggles, if that's possible. Surely the decision was made just because it looks cool with no lore-based reasoning such as him being a metalworker, or at best to further conceal his identity since he's an undercover Legion guy. Forget what they're called.

>>186889791
He's not me. Are you really still going? Holy shit haha.
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All this shitposting started because someone dared to go against Obsidian fanboys.
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>>186889573
>nice blog faggot
>after all his blogposting
>claims to be done then has to go back
goddamn this has to be bait, I refuse to believe anyone is such a perfect sperg
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>>186889826
Looks like a Zetan replaced Sunny Smiles a bit. Try making the cheekbones a little bit thinner, the nose a little further down, and the eyes and eyebrows a little further apart.
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>>186890002
it really kicked off because some dumbass didn't like his fallout 4 pre order and cried about it, unless 4 is an obsidian game I don't think that's accurate
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>>186889707
>>186889791
And he's still going with it! Look at this guy, he's going for the gold!

>>186890028
Have you tried not being a pedophile?

>>186890096
Look at the file name you retard. It was pulled from Nexus.
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Man I just wish there was a good mod for fallout 4 that actually had towns in the wasteland. Or premade settlements. Shit just feels so barren, and not in a good way.
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>>186884135
Man, I hope Dixie sucks. There's nothing I hate more than a bitch that tells you she doesn't do blowjobs after eating her out for 20 minutes.
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>>186890028
Again, that's not me, it's just that more than one person can see what an actually properly classified retard you are. Sorry if that comes as a shock to you.

>>186890218
I don't know Nexus filenames. For all I knew, it could've been some proprietary screenshot name structure, and the guy introduced the pic as though it were his own.
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>>186884017
While I don't agree with you just steam rolling an area instead of actually taking the time to build around it, I applaud your autism.
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>>186890218
wow I didn't think getting bullied on /vg/ could break a man like this
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>>186890225
>The wasteland feels barren
What did he mean by this?
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>>186889391
>>186890028
Lol you really can't help yourself can you? I've never seen someone this stunningly retarded in the wild before. Can you blink and breath at the same time?
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>>186890610
Don't do it. He's going to say New Vegas did it right when it was just a bunch of shacks in a desert.
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>>186890096

Sorry, not sure if I'm getting this right. The pic I posted is Sunny Smiles from Fallout Character Overhaul.

I meant to get feedback on Elizabeth. >>186888254

Just for curiosity I'm downloading FCO to see how she would look like with the mod installed, but I can already imagine it will look terrible.
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>>186890689
no, I actually look things up before pre-ordering, thanks for trying
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>>186890576
You said it, not me.
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>>186890750
New Vegas is the perfect game.
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>>186890867
thanks for samefagging for me, i guess.
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>>186890806
so are you or are you not the schmuck who fell for todd's lies? or are you just jumping in to try and get some easy shitposting in?
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NEW VEGAS IS THE ONLY FALLOUT GAME
WHO CARES IF THE LORE MAKES NO SENSE
WHO CARES IF NPCS JUST SPOUT EXPOSITION
WHO CARES IF YOU HAVE NO REASON TO DO THE MQ
WHO CARES IF YOU'RE THE CHOSEN ONE SENT TO FIX NEW VEGAS ONE BULLET AT A TIME

P E R F E C T
G A M E
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>>186891082
FALLOUT 4 IS THE ONLY FALLOUT GAME
WHO CARES IF THE LORE MAKES NO SENSE
WHO CARES IF NPCS JUST SEND YOU OFF TO SHOOT STUFF WITHOUT YOU ASKING
WHO CARES IF YOU HAVE NO REASON TO DO THE MQ
WHO CARES IF YOU'RE THE CHOSEN ONE SENT TO FIX THE COMMONWEALTH ONE BULLET AT A TIME

P E R F E C T
G A M E
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>thread degenerates from someone pre ordering blind to shit flinging between him and counter autists to just insanity
what is wrong with you people, where can you even take the thread from here?
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>>186891082
>I'm too stupid to understand the depths of the lore, so I'll just say it makes no sense
>Despite my terrible reading ability, I'm going to 'call out' the npcs for bad writing. As if I could do better!
>You have a choice about doing the main quest, this is an outrage. Without a normie tier muh baby or muh daddy hook I can't get invested in a game!
>You're the chosen one! Despite the fact you're not, in fact you are literally a random chump out of a group of other chumps.
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>>186890750
Nah, that's the thing I complained about the most when mentioning it. I said repeatedly that FO4's cities and environment are better, but that it just can't make up for the total lack of RPG in the RPG game. I unironically wish they had made it as an FPS side-title instead, a clearly defined experience and within those bounds explored RPG elements and Fallout gameplay that may be adapted, such as scrounging for scrap to make ammo out of. Something like Lyons' last mission where you're doomed to die at the end and witness the end of a chapter of the BoS, see her embody her ideals of altruism to the end. That would've been infinitely better than the garbage we have now, except that people love to run around in a sandbox and shoot shit, plus the game seems to have become very mod-friendly. The weapons at least look fantastic.

>>186891071
I am, that's why I posted the screenshot, to show you that more than one person sees you for the actual retard you are. There seems to be at least 3 including me, counting only those that have posted. But please, feel free to continue in your delusions (including that of grandeur).
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>>186891505
>>I'm too stupid to understand the depths of the lore
Even Avellone said they fucked up dude. You have no sustainable argument.
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>Start as a well dressed, dapper hair geled prewar fellow
>Throughout the playthrough, add more scars (And burns if you get burnt), more facial hair and more unkempt hair
>mfw I know I have legit autism but I want a mod that would do this for me.
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>>186891505
That's one thing I loved the most about NV, that you're such a basic-ass bitch at the beginning. You can literally do anything and be anyone, including just a bounty hunter, up to the literal savior of the Mojave Wasteland. You don't HAVE to do a damned thing, but anything you want to, there's so much and so many ways to go about it. I wish they'd had more time.
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>>186891540
>delusions of grandeur
what are you on about? it's just hilarious to see you try and justify your stupidity before descending into smugposting and completely imagined ad hominem
but please, keep going, easy to tell you can't help yourself
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>>186891082

>WHO CARES IF NPCS JUST SPOUT EXPOSITION

I still don't understand this meme.
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>>186881517
See
>>186882402
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>>186891709
Its a real shame about Fallout 3 and 4, though FO3 wasn't that bad in hindsight.

>Get abandoned by dad, could justify leaving the vault and just saying fuck him, going about your own buisness
>Fallout 4 meanwhile casts you in a caring father role who would do anything for muh shaun, making it far more of a stretch to ignore the main quest and just build settlements
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>>186891815
Says the guy that was getting laughed at by others and punching at shadows until a couple posts ago when I chimed in to laugh at you along with the others. You're the one begging for attention and trying to rope people in. Talk about Fallout and quit flirting with me, retard, lol.
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>>186891832
>ask somebody about the NCR or Caesar's Legion
>they tell you what they know
WHAT THE FUCK WHO WROTE THIS SHIT LMAO
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>>186891832
>What is lonesome road, Avellone's Magnum Opus.

NV is extremely "Tell, don't show." story telling.
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>>186891832
>Walk up to NPC
>>Interact
>Exposition dump about Vegas and the war and how they want no part of it
>Rinse; Repeat
>You're never actually shown anything, you're only told about it which is about the biggest sin you can make in a visual medium
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>>186891832
Because there are quite a few NPCs that serve no purpose other than to educate you on a single small facet of the Wasteland and to I guess put a voice actor on the payroll?
Most of them have some okay references twisted in but really it all could be accomplished through an in-game codex and wouldn't make single bits of information basically unknown unless you had talked to every named NPC you came across in your playthrough.
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>>186892083
>Implying any other Fallout game including the first two are any different
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>>186892284
No one implied that, but you can't say NV, or any of them are "well written" if they're just frontloaded with exposition.
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>>186892284
>jimmy johnny and billy are sucking each other's dicks
>I better join in
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>>186891965
so you just dive in because some guy who got burned on a pre order got butthurt and kept giving free (you)s? ok, hard to tell ebin smug anime posters apart
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>>186891961
Yeah, I had much less of a problem with 3 than 4. It's hard to make a character to base yourself on as a blank slate without LOL AMNESIA and such like NV had to fall back on. That being said, the only time I've ever finished FO3 was with TTW, and so I was getting through it as a single adventure on my way to the Mojave, which may have affected my perception of it.

All that being said, mod makers have been solving this problem for ages by having the player literally choose what their backstory is. Starting off as a Fiend, NCR conscript, etc I think was possible in some mod I saw a long time ago, which was exciting. You just had to go and take the Courier job at Nipton and then the main story would kick off, unlocking a ton of vanilla content, with a shitload of vanilla stuff being otherwise available which made no reference to your status as a courier. I can't remember the name of it for the life of me.
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Is there some mod that changes the dialogue for named settlers?
I don't want to be repeatedly asking the vault tec rep or sheffield to work for me after I've already recruited them.
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>>186892396
>It's hard to make a character to base yourself on as a blank slate without LOL AMNESIA and such like NV had to fall back on
Fallout should just do it how TES does it, starting you out in prison or coming in via boat/train etc.
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>>186892576
You mean like starting out in a Vault and coming out of it into the Wasteland?
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>shitposters IMMEDIATELY switch sides once pre-order fag slows down and his lover speeds up posting
I'll give it to you, you guys are efficient at egging autism on
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>>186891901

One way or another, the point was about the legality of what Bethesda did, but how unoriginal they are that they didn't resort to incorporating weapon mods and such into their game (like Obsidian before them), they literally incorporated an entire basic storyline into Far Harbor.

Weapon mods were happening sooner or later, likewise with better combat mechanics and the like. But an entire story? That's unforgiveable.

>>186891983
>>186892083
>>186892379

How is it any different from any other 3D Fallout game? Or most open world RPGs, for that matter...
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>>186892676
Too bad they royally fucked that up twice now. Can't wait to be the holy ghost looking for my uncle steve twice removed.
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>>186892576
The problem with that is then you'd have people crying about how Fallout is literally a reskinned skyrim, instead of a separate world
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>>186892390
Naw, I'm the guy that got burned on preorders that moved on a while back, but you are STILL going lol, and I "jumped in" with the screenshot to prove that you're punching at shadows and arguing with several people which also know you're a huge and actual retard.

My posts include
>>186892396
>>186891540
>>186889946
It's time to move on. Noone cares, you're the prettiest one, whatever you want, buddy.

>>186892576
I can see the value in that but as >>186892676 implies, it's not really solving the problem. It still places you in a fixed time and place with certain circumstances. I like the idea more of being able to start off with various styles of life and maybe a few related perks. Starting off as an NCR conscript and having Grunt, maybe your role was grenadier and you have the one that makes you throw shit harder. Or you're a regulator and you start with cowboy, quickdraw, and high survival.
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>>186892812
>crying about how Fallout is literally a reskinned skyrim
They've been doing that for years and have been right.
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>>186892890
>you are STILL going lol
>he says without a hint of self awareness
please, keep posting smug anime girls, I'm sure it'll get your money back
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>>186892765
Desu if the little quest I wrote for NV last thread about diamonds made it into a video game I wouldn't even be mad, I'd actually be kind of honored.
You can move the goalposts all you want, Bethesda didn't steal intellectual property, nor has it ever been a question in the decade that Fallout has existed that they have. You literally pulled a non point out of your ass.
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>>186892676
Not really, because being a vault dweller forces you into the role of being an underground hermit person. Prison/boat doesn't lock you into one location for your characters past.

That said, FO3 did an okay job with the Vault, given you could decide how much of a shithead your character was going up, but you were still locked into the vault dweller role.
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>>186892921
IT'S LIKE SKYRIM WITH GU- oh wait
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so who's baiting who now? I can't tell seeing as everyone is just screaming "HE'S STILL GOING" at each other in a sad smoldering circlejerk
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>>186892921
No, really the complaints were that FO3 felt clunky and like oblivion, and they were right. But FO4 and NV and Skyrim are on entirely different levels. TES gets all the stuff they know will sell and the most polish. Fallout gets expirimental features and new mechanics to test for TES.
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>>186893127

>You can move the goalposts all you want, Bethesda didn't steal intellectual property, nor has it ever been a question in the decade that Fallout has existed that they have. You literally pulled a non point out of your ass.

It's not moving the goalposts. Some anon said "TAKE IT TO TRIAL" and I said that you simply can't take Bethesda to a trial and hope to win, that isn't how it works. Lots of shady shit go around and trials don't take place in a matter of hours, it's something that requires a lot of money and companies can easily stall a modder if they want.

Because the law says "it's okay" I won't stop thinking (and with good reason) that Bethesda are lazy uncreative shits that felt the need to take someone else's story and put it into their game without even talking to the modder about it.

>Desu if the little quest I wrote for NV last thread about diamonds made it into a video game I wouldn't even be mad, I'd actually be kind of honored.

I'd be honored if I was approached to work with Bethesda and add my own quest into the game. If Bethesda added the quest to the game without even asking and then took full credit I would be very pissed.
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>>186893052
Cute

>>186893158
I can see your point about the prison or boat. In FONV's case, Powder Gangers were literally brought in from NCR territory and come from all walks of life. Being part of the group that busted out and staged the coup would be pretty interesting.

>>186893487
He's just desperate for attention is all. Maybe he's [MERELY PRETENDING].
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>>186893487
They'll tire themselves out eventually, thread gets better when these faggots go to sleep.
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>>186893619
>some anon
That was me, I just spent three hours working instead of shitposting.
>this long exposition
Just admit you were wrong, Jesus.
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>>186893487

Anon who pre-ordered FO4 made a huge mistake out of idiocy. We all know that.

Then it's your usual Bethestards defending the undefendable.

"Beware of false Fallout fans, who come to you in grognard’s clothing but inwardly are ravenous casuals."
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>>186886702
Technically they are much more fun games.
Honestly, does anyone goes back to morrowind these days and doesnt abandon it after 3 hours? Anyone goes back to skyrim for anything other than bouncy tits and cocks?

FO4 is a pretty ok game and is the best one bethesda shat out yet.
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>>186893764

>no arguments
>JUST SAY YOU ARE WRONG!!

Yeah, that kind of thing doesn't work in a trial, anon, no wonder you suggested it in the first place.
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>>186893834
I like skyrim because medieval fantasy writefaggotry is my bread and butter, Fallout is more of a side gig, and desu I prefer Warhammer 40k
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>>186893834
I like FO3 quite a bit more, but I use it with TTW and so it benefits from FONV mechanics and mods, which surely effects my opinion. Vanilla feels awful to play if only because of the lack of ironsights, weapon modding, and handloading.
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I'm going full weeb and want to do a samurai cowboy build in New Vegas.

Besides the obvious (GRA katana and weapons affected by Cowboy), what else should I do? Any particular mods to make this playthrough better?
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>>186893634
to quote:
>he's still going
I'll give you a little hint since you're so slow: whoever was actually calling you a retard at first has long since left, you're just feeding a shitposter (shitposters?) because you can't help but reply to every. single. post.
so basically they were right, now you're a retard for enabling a shitposter
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>>186893942
>you were wrong about Bethesda stealing intellectual property and extremely wrong in implicating they ever did
>speech out about court
Go back to being baited anon, it's pretty obvious you deserve it considering they've kept you on for 3 hours.
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>>186890369
it's not ready yet, i will build more things to it tomorrow.
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>>186893634
>FO4 settlement system in New Vegas
>Taking control of the Powder Gangers prison, building it up and raiding the wasteland
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>>186893968
Somguy's Bounties series is an obvious choice, but ones adding clothing featuring dusters would probably be up your alley as well as downloading weapons expansions and perk fixes to apply Cowboy to the ones which count.

As for just general modding comfort, I say this a lot, but Project Solid goes a long way for me to making the game feel like it hits modern standards. CaliberX for that handloading autism, too, and maybe a house like that one that's a ranch out in the middle of fuck-all nowhere, or Lone Gunman's Tools of the Trade. I always use Underwater Home for my HQ, mostly out of nostalgia.

>>186893992
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>>186893968
throwing knives (maybe mod them to be more common, no fucking clue why they're so rare), there are also shuriken+kunai mods if you REALLY want to get into it, elite riot gear duster and sheriff's for clothes
>>186894450
>ebin blank reply to imply I'm trying for (you)s
I'm not your little girlfriend, I'm just trying to tell you that you've been going for blatant bait for at least half an hour looking at the post times, feel free to keep going if you want
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>>186894108

I still don't know what I'm supposed to be wrong about, unless you are so anal about the term "rip-off".
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>>186894789
>sheriff's
*sheriff's hat, although I guess the duster from primm would work as early game armor
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>>186894825
>what am I wrong about
Feel free to find it up the reply chain any time you want.
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>>186894450
Forgot to mention, a radio to listen to would help you get and stay in the mood, and recoil mods would be nice too.

I'm also the faggot that's making that mod that'll never get finished, so if you get Project Ultimatum, Fatigue: Loot the Unconscious, and make some .ini tweak I can't remember you'll be able to knock a motherfucker out, drag him away, disarm him, and then when he comes to you'll be able to have various nonlethal options for neutralization.

>>186894230
Mmhmm, since first posting the idea, the more I come to like it. In fact, taking the NCRCF for you and yours is already a part of the mod I'm making. Quest is called "A Nice Gated Community," lol. You don't raid, but you do expand and acquire territory. Got shit worked out like changing the BoS scouts' dialog and getting pardons from the NCR for anyone your recruit, plus temporary ownership of the facility as they don't have the resources necessary to occupy it anyway and you'd solved a major problem for them. Eventually they want it back, however, and so you'll need to make your own eventually.

>>186894789
Naw, it was supposed to be the pic, the blank bit an acknowledgement that no more needs to, not should be, said. Didn't mean to twist your panties, you've got a point and a likelihood to be correct. Not like I'm infallible and can't be played like a fiddle.
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>>186895118
>Naw, it was supposed to be the pic,
oh right then
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Has anyone made a vault suit that has rolled sleeves kind of like the mechanic jumpsuit?
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>sarah implies that people like the souvenier vault suits because leather is "fun"
>seems takes hers off when you fuck because she wakes up in nightwear
no fair
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>>186895424
i don't think leather suits are very fun to sleep in when you live in Southern Nevada and are fucking, anon.
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>>186895424
Aftercare and recovery after bondage is important.
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>>186895581
vaults presumably have AC and are underground (if you've ever been in a cave, even egypt feels chilly), it's cool enough to get kinky
>>186895676
fine, fair enough
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>>186894450
>>186895118
I'd never even heard of Project Solid before now and if nothing else, simply adding rolling looks like it'll make combat (especially the shitty melee stuff) a lot better. Recoil would probably add a lot to the shooting. Thanks anon.

>>186894789
I think shuriken and kunai is probably TOO weeb, but yeah the elite riot gear is pretty much a shoe-in. I had a great cowboy hat from an old mod I played on a previous computer, I'll try and track that down.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BAz8TvS9074
This changes firing animations on revolvers to fanning the hammer, so that's great. I'll tack this on.

Anything that makes melee less insufferable?
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>>186895027

Are you implying the idea behind Autumn Leaves' was Bethesda's?

Replace "steal" with whatever word you want, the point still stands: Bethesda didn't come up with it.
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>hours later
>two autists still arguing about the same shit
lol
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>>186895751
I live in Texas. I have AC, my girlfriend has a leather catsuit (it's nice)
Unless I want to wake up and deal with coochiestank in our morning shower, that catsuit does not stay on overnight.
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>>186895814
so then try this at least http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/37629/? so you'll have some throwing weapons since you'll only ever find like 3 knives otherwise
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>>186896016
do you also live in an underground vault? I mean I live in the frozen north east so I wouldn't know honestly, I just remember caves being freezing cold despite the heat outside
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>>186895814
Yeah, Project Solid is a recent discovery for myself as well but fuck it makes a big difference. Makes the game much more comfy.
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>>186895884
>are you implying
I was implying that you were wrong in your use of the word steal, you know, stealing is a crime, something you can go to court over.
If it's not stealing... Well, to paraphrase you...(>>186893942
)
" that kind of thing doesn't work in a trial, anon,"
This entire reply chain has been about you implying (with no proof withcoming from the man who made the mod who was stolen from) that Bethesda stole the idea and then attempted to sabotage his legal activities (that still haven't been proven to have happened) so that they could have... A quest?
I'll repeat it one more time, Bethesda is not the mob, or the boogeyman under your bed.
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FINALLY find a mod that lets you command settlers around.

http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/6648

>you can't actually command the normally spawned settlers, you craft stuff to spawn faction aligned soldiers that can then be made into settler followers.

So fucking close and yet so far. I just want to take my normal settlers on adventures fucking damnit.
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>>186896198
I wish I did, but you do need to realize AC is nice and all but it doesn't stop you from heating up. This summer we spent most of our nights above all the sheets as far from eachother as we could manage. Sure, Texas isn't Nevada, but Death Valley is right around the corner, so it's not like it's particularly cold up there.
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>>186897036
Doesn't FCOM let you make Settlers into followers? http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/14946/?
It says "Settlers now have their own "squad" to protect them from the dismiss all command" in the changelog but am unsure, seems like you'd have found that one easily, considering it's you know, FCOM.
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>>186896450

Jesus Christ, I knew you were one of those dense guys.

This is not a matter of legality, I never said "what Bethesda did was illegal". You were the first one who brought legality into the matter, here >>186879850

To which I replied >>186881517

>Yes, because taking things to court with one of the biggest videogame companies of the moment will surely turn out well for the Autumn Leaves author.

I could have very well said "any mod author". Again, I never siad "what Bethesda did was illegal". Even if what Bethesda did was illegal, you can be more than certain than the author wouldn't speak up against them. Even when you are right, law isn't so simple. Bethesda probably has some of the best lawyers around, you simply can't fight against that, especially when you are some no-name dude and not another corporation that has enough time and money to put up against them.

Once more, and to get it through your thicc skull: it's not a matter of legality, it's a matter of principles, honesty, and gentlemanship. Taking someone's quest and adding it to your own game without even telling them about it is pathetic, lazy, and uncreative from them.

The law protects Bethesda, I never EVER questioned this. Just because the law says "it's okay" doesn't mean I will think "good guy Bethesda".
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>>186897345
>legality != morality
I'm not part of this discussion, but why does this even need to be said? it's sad how conflated the two are
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@186897625
>trying this hard to get (you)s
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>>186897345
>literally no understanding of how court cases in the US work
Lawyers will take your case on credit if it's solid enough simply because they can make a fucking huge name for themselves winning a case against a corporate entity, get the fuck out of here.
>not enough money
If you win a civil suit it's pretty standard procedure for the court or the people who lost the suit to pay your court fees. There's a reason losing civil suits makes people go broke, and it isn't because they couldn't afford their lawyer, it's because they couldn't afford two lawyers.

In short, if it was anything worth pursuing that wouldn't get the EULA waved in their face and laughed out of the courtroom, you would've heard about it.
>b-b-but it's his idea
Oh, so the first man to ever write the story of rescuing a damsel in distress has intellectual rights to ALL stories of damsels in distress?
I love strawmans.
>I never questioned the legality
Then why did you refer to it as "stealing" and double down on the position that Bethesda was protecting their illegal quest-idea harvesting business on the down-low?
Like, read that last line again. You believe that Bethesda has an illegal quest-idea harvesting business and a crack team of lawyers dedicated to keeping that in check, as if the EULA and the fact that they own literally everything to do with Fallout?
Autumn Leaves isn't a distinctive quest mod without Fallout's (bethesda's) assets, story, and ideas, as such it does not qualify as intellectual property and is not subject to protection.
Go back to school.
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>>186897345
>>186897897
You both have no idea how autistic you are.
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>>186897498

A retard put words in my mouth and thus completely missed the point, nothing more, nothing less, but I'll stop giving him (You)s, my sources are scarce ever since I stopped farming Elizabeth.
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>>186897310
Yeah I have. The problem is all the mods that let you spawn generic followers at the moment have no weight to them. I mean, you just press a button and poof, you now have soldiers. You don't pay in resources/caps or have to wait before you can summon more. So it kind of takes away from the suspense when you bring them along with you because they are entirely replaceable. But if it were simply settlers with the ability to follow you, things would be more interesting, because of how slowly settlers replenish. You'd have to take care that you don't get them killed in order for your settlement to grow. I mean sure you could use FCOM to plop down a few followers as settlers, but then you swing too far around and you can't replenish them at all, because when they die, the next settler that comes around will be a normal one that can't fight, and if you vertibird more in, you're back to the problem that it costs nothing to do so. I think that just making the normal settlers followers would just be the most balanced and entertaining way to handle it.

Alternately, I wouldn't mind a mod like FCOM where you summon soldiers, so long as you actually have to pay something significant in order to do so. But that doesn't exist either as far as I know.
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>>186898084
>summon soldiers so long as you have to pay something
It shouldn't be too hard to rig up a script and submod for it, anon, you ever thought about giving it a shot yourself? Like that actually sounds pretty easy.
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>>186898084
>>186898268
Like, all you'd have to do is attach some sort of magic effect to summoning soldiers that requires you to have a certain amount of caps or food in your workshop/inventory to "hire" them on instead of just dropping them in as it is in current FCOM.
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>>186897897

I don't give a shit about how the law system works in the United States because I simply don't live there. Then again, I still would wager this

>Lawyers will take your case on credit if it's solid enough simply because they can make a fucking huge name for themselves winning a case against a corporate entity, get the fuck out of here.

isn't enough. Moreover, THIS

>If you win a civil suit it's pretty standard procedure for the court or the people who lost the suit to pay your court fees.

means your average Fallout player in his 20s wouldn't even consider going into court with Bethesda, I certainly wouldn't take my chances myself.

>Oh, so the first man to ever write the story of rescuing a damsel in distress has intellectual rights to ALL stories of damsels in distress?
I love strawmans.

Yeah, too bad Autumn Leaves and Brain Dead both

- Take place in a Vault
- A Vault populated by robots
- Each robot has an unique personality
- Both quest are about a murder mystery
- Both have a very similar interior design
- NO FALLOUT QUEST BEFORE THIS ONE HAS BEEN ANYTHING LIKE THIS

I love strawmans.

>Then why did you refer to it as "stealing"

I suppose you get anal at people who say certain prices "are a steal", right?

>Autumn Leaves isn't a distinctive quest mod without Fallout's (bethesda's) assets, story, and ideas, as such it does not qualify as intellectual property and is not subject to protection.

Autumn Leaves is literally AN IDEA. Assets and engine don't do SHIT if you don't have an idea to use them in a certain way, you fucking neanderthal.
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>>186898660
No I don't because calling something a steal is a figure of speech and you literally said "I'm saying they stole it"
You are a special kind of stupid aren't you
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>>186898660

I also forgot about discussing art with a FUCKING ROBOT, because of course we all know that in Fallout you discuss art with robots all the time, it's just like Final Fantasy and Chocobos.
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>>186898268
>>186898403

Oh I've tried plenty of times to do stuff like that, but I just can't seem to crack the creation kit. I've made mods for multiple other games including fucking Dwarf Fortress, which stores all its data in plain text files that you have to edit manually, but I just can't figure out how the GECK/TES creation kit works.
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>>186898634
am I missing something?
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>>186898893
Courier was delivering Lorenzo's immortal juice and got shot. Not everything is Mojave related
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>>186898634
>Working at an office down town
>Receptionist says that the courier dropped off your files
>DUDE NEW VEGAS LMAO
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>>186898849
I should also add that it crashes half the times I boot it up and I don't know why.
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>>186898972
>Not everything is Mojave related
?????
I didn't say it was, I just didn't know what was notable about that line that warranted an ayyy post
were you just hoping for that response?
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>>186898893
Oh nothing.

>>186898972
To me, it is.

>>186899081
Well, when you have autism, that's what you think.
I do. I have autism.
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>>186898797

No, I'm the kind of people who reads between the lines and takes context into account: the context where I mentioned Bethesda not only incorporates mods into their game (have you even thought of why I didn't said they "stole" mods then?), but also stole someone else's idea.

And I still believe they stole it even if the law says otherwise: you don't own a persons ideas, and Autumn Leaves is an idea first and foremost. Just because he puts it to work with your assets doesn't allow you to steal it.
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>check back on /fog/ after months cause thinking of modding up fallout 4 again
>see all this

yikes

wheres the big titty
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>>186899224
>spoiler
Well at least you're aware of it.
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>>186899081
>enter third rail
>npc tells me to keep my iron strapped on
>BIG IRON NEW VEGAS REFERENCE
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>>186899502
>where's the big titty
skyrim, fallout isn't gonna be worth modding until we get modular automaton sex bots and anthro bondage deathclaws
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>>186899081
>>186899598
>talking to Hancock
>mentions the previous leader of Goodneighbor, guy named Vic
>DUDE VIC FALLOUT 2 LMAO
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>>186899502
>>186899830
Yeah if you want waifus big tiddies you gotta go to Skyrim or a dedicated porn game.
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>>186899376
There was never any stealing done because as soon as you pressed accept on that EULA to use the CK he signed over the rights to anything he created using it, which is the entire point.
He literally signed over all rights to things created with the CK by accepting the CK's EULA.
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>>186899207
Look at the post below yours, I didn't hope, I bet.
And I won, bucko
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>>186899502
Have you not heared? Big tits arent a thing anymore, even playboy had an article about those damned millenials who arent intrested in gigantic juggalos.
>implying this fad has ever been more than "lol im not gay, i like tits, huge tits, im not gay... im not gay"
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>>186900761
Cute little perky tits are objectively superior.
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>>186900761
Ebony Queens and Latina Mamacita's have truly changed the work
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>>186901030
>work
son of a bitch
*word
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>>186900672
>gambling
IS THAT A MOTHERFUCKING NEW VEGAS REFERENCE
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I mean, I agree theres such a thing as too big but thats subjective

also
>he's into skeltals
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>>186901154
Truth is, the game was rigged from the start.
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>>186899830
>>186900319
>>186900761

B-but big fat Nora skinsuit titties
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>>186900761
Big pecs are strictly superior to big tits
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>they aren't oppai idorts
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>>186854083
>being so cucked you're tricked into thinking your the General of the Minutemen when they're the ones giving you all the orders

They're complete fucking nobodies, do you understand me?
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Should i buy or pirate the original two Fallout games?
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>>186900884
Don't forget the abs.
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>>186901697
It's not like the original devs are getting any of the money from it.
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>>186901636

this kind of bothered me

i know gameplay would be really different if you just sent out orders instead of doing them

but it's kind of funny how you're the general yet being given orders most of the time
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>>186900471

Jesus Christ. You keep using the term "steal" from a legal point of view. I use the term "steal" from a non legal point of view: taking what's not yours from someone else.

It doesn't matter what EULA says: Bethesda did not think of Autumn Leaves. That's literally all I'm saying.

There's nothing more to be said, at this point you are being obtuse if you refuse to listen to what I'm saying.
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>>186901703
I wouldn't dream of it, fellow patrician.
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>>186900884
>>186901703
>>186902218
Glad to know I'm not the only one here
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>>186902183
lmao, who cares
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>>186901636
Honestly. You really should be telling Preston to gather some men to go and take or defend settlements.
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MAKE IT STOP
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>>186903121
I'm telling you that hair is the issue
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>fco
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Is the Nev Vegas pre mastered mod thing worth waiting for or should I just follow the mod guide in the general? Haven't played this in a few years but just got it for pc and I have never played it modded.
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>>186903359
and the eyes, and the chin and the nose
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>>186903121
Anon, that hair really needs to go.
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>>186903121
Just texture overhauls or is that FCO?
>>186903359
The spiky hair was actually cute on their very first one (rounder face before the perma-scowl), probably the only Courierfu that I've seen pull off that hair.
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It's not confusing. Cait an uggo. Cait a shit. A shit!
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fucking KING REEEEEEEEEE
get off my streets
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I love all sizes equally. Small tits, big tits, they're all welcome in my house.
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>>186905173
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>>186904896
purge them
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>>186905173
>titty centrism
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>not liking necks
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>>186906247
I do love hairdos that show off a nice neckline. A lot of girls can make buns look gorgeous if they give them a try. Shame they're not popular those days.
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>>186905173
>>186905416
maybe this general isn't beyond saving after all
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>>186905173
No one has ever claimed not to, still doesn't mean you can't have a preference or ones you like above others, kinda like kids
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>>186849359
There are swamps, it's where you tend to see Moose. Even southern Maine, while more developed than the rest of the state, is still very rural.
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>playing new vegas again
>install a shit ton of millenia's weapons
>game almost always crashes when trying to enter doc mitchell's house now
who the fuck thought putting every single one of their guns with all three of their mods in a single house was a good idea
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>>186909104
>using Millenia's shit
Deserved.
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>>186909242
>millenia's weapons are bad
what? I know it's now Shrapnel or Arsenal, but still.
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>reach concord
>risk life for complete strangers
>they ask me to go kill the army outside by myself
>point out this is suicide
>WOW TIME TO WAKE UP BITCH
>alright fine
>sturges immediately drops the tough guy act and turns back to the console I already unlocked
>kill a billion raiders and a dinosaur by myself while they go afk inside the museum
>go back inside
>Preston gives me money and ammo
>guess I'll take what I can get, thanks man
>HMPH, SPOKEN LIKE A TRUE MERC

Could they have made that bunch of fucks any more unappealing
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>>186909804
>for almost the first year marcy and jun were unkillable, gravy and sturgess aren't for plot reasons and grandma sparkle can OD
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>>186909967
I fucking hate how much Marcy bitches and Jun acts like a spineless bitch. Would it have killed Bethesda to make them progress from their just lost my son phase?
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>>186882975
>be ok with pipe weapons because boston is a no fun zone
>be in former military base/outpost
>find pipe weapons there
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>>186910330
>I'm mad that NPCs have character
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Hey, I've got a mod idea and I'm wondering if it was already done so I would appreciate if you could tell me.

It would be basically a reskin of the laser musket, but instead of using junk, wood and a crank it would be a pre-war prototype that looks closer to the basic laser rifle with some extra bits, a scope and a few switches - each flip of the a switch works as a pulling the crank of the laser musket.

Basically it was a prototype laser sniper rifle (or something a Brotherhood Scribe came up after seeing what the Minutemen are using and liking the idea) that lets the shooter adjust the power and battery usage based on the target they're facing.
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>>186910330
>turn sanctuary into a fucking luxury resort with safe warm houses, robots handling all hard labor, more fresh water than the entire rest of the commonwealth combined, rec areas bars shops and pet gorillas
>this place is shit I hate you we're not friends I rape my husband with a strapon every night waaaah my kid is dead you can't possibly know how that feels
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D-do you think there will be super mutants in fallout 5?
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>>186911531
there will always be supermutants and BOS in bethesda fallouts, and the bos will all be outfitted with new super sekrit t-75 power armor that is even bulkier than the t-60
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>>186911531
>implying there will be a fallout 5
Its just going to be 4 re-released 100 times like they're doing with skyshit.
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>>186911448
BoS, that's the only logical place a non junk musket would come from since the whole point of a musket is a nigger rigged laser rifle, and the US army wouldn't need to nigger rig one since they have access to actual laser rifle production
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>>186909804
It's almost like Fallout 4 is a bad roleplaying game or something.
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>>186911676
>t-75 was made by the US before the great war using alien technology and outclasses t-51 by leaps and bounds, and was used everywhere including the moon and can withstand a direct hit from a nuke (of course they'll place a suit in a crater, completely unscathed for 200 years to demonstrate this)
>but it's ok, t-51 is still called the pinnacle of power armor technology in the loading screen so it's lore friendly
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Holy SHIT why the FUCK is Dead Money so TRASH

I'm playing it for the first time and its just so fucking shit I can't even begin to understand how it was made by the same team as the main game
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>>186911531
I hope we get a story about a shortage of super-mutants and that the few we encounter are devastatingly strong. Maybe we'll get to be the new Master and make some more ourselves if we choose to.
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>>186911531
Fallout 5 takes place on October 23, 3077, exactly 1000 years after the Great War. The Brotherhood of Steel, led by Roger Maxson XXVI, fights through the rubble of New York City, now called Wyorkci, against the super mutants created by the evil Empire and their State Building. You are a vault dweller, in the Vault 100, a vault where every 20 minutes an air raid siren goes off. You have to leave one day because your brother has gone missing. You must fight through the rubble and scavenge pre-war food from the abandoned buildings full of posed skeletons. Join the Brotherhood of Stee- er I mean, you can choose which faction you'd like to join, where you can join the Brotherhood, or join the Empire where you sacrifice yourself immediately and die. The big twist is that your brother is the leader of the Empire, but also your OTHER BROTHER IS MAXSON XXVI WOOOOAHH PLOT TWIST. Don't forget to get the Lizard Wizard achievement for killing 50 deathclaws.
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>>186911724
That wasn't the question and that's not the point of this rifle, but thanks for the reply anyway.
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>>186884652
>7 inch penis
Sooo its a cuck porno?
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I cleared the Dunwich mining complex and Museum of Witchcraft back to back. It was pretty spooky with a minimalist HUD and a realism ENB. In fact, when I was moving through the main floor of the Museum, I knocked over a mannequin and flinched, shooting the floor a lot and alerting the Deathclaw. Now I'm sailing to Far Harbor. My character doesn't use power armor and focuses on good old fashioned bullets. How scared should I be?
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>>186912058
>Says something is shit but cant explain why
???
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>>186912593
If you're such a wimp that the Museam scared you you're probably going to shit your pants in Fah Hahbah.
Seek an adult.
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Why the fuck is AWOP so unbalanced? And why the fuck does it touch the goodsprings fight?
I just wanted new areas to spice up my playthrough but christ it seems a bit overboard on the difficulty.
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>>186912702
>Why the fuck is AWOP so unbalanced?
modders don't know what subtlety means
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>>186912389
>it would be a pre-war prototype that looks closer to the basic laser rifle with some extra bits
>Basically it was a prototype laser sniper rifle (or something a Brotherhood Scribe came up after seeing what the Minutemen are using and liking the idea)
I was just saying the BoS idea is the better route to take
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>>186912058
I like it.
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>>186912593
>"""Realism""" ENB
Get out.
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>>186912702
>called a world of pain
>makes the world painful
wooooow
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>>186912820
Indeed, but as mentioned your reasoning is wrong:
>and the US army wouldn't need to nigger rig one since they have access to actual laser rifle production
It's not a jury rigged rifle, it's an experimental rifle that can modify the charge to increase or decrease it's power for the shot.
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Are the pastebin mods recommended ones for an enhanced second playthrough of FNV?

I played on release and am looking to do another run - I'd like essential bugfixes/enhancements, as well as lore-friendly gear additions or even adding new sections to the game if well done.
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>>186909804
>Be pre-war man
>First encounter since the bombs drop are some people on the street
>Fucking shoot them, say nothing
>Some guy says to take this weapon and shoot more people
>Okay sure this will help me find muh baby somehow
>Enter the house, fucking murder a bunch more people
>Hey take this power armor and go murder some more guys
>Giant lizard monster tearing my face off, say nothing, this is not worth commenting on
>Return to the group, old lady uses drug magic to tell me where to go
>Black guy says to come see them at Sanc
>Go see them, they say they are going to live here
>No option to tell them to fuck off away from my house
>I'm now trimming bushes and setting up a chair for the magic lady, this will help me find my son
>Blacky tells me to go help out some guys nearby, okay sure whatever I'll do that
>Thanks man you're now the leader of our faction
Fallout 4 is the worst piece of shit.
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>>186911065
>Talk about how these characters don't progress no matter what
>Herp durp they have character!
I take it reading comprehension isn't something your good at
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>>186914001
>Tfw you go to insult someone
>Fuck up you're and your
I really shouldn't shitpost while working
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>>186914373
>being a workfag
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>>186913969
Beth games suffer from the whole "player has to be the most important nigger in the room". In Skyrim you were the dragonborn, the most awesome badass who totally could speak dragon and in Fallout 4 you're the prewar hero who is good at everything and will lead everyone right away, and everyone treats you mostly like gold dust.

In New Vegas you're a dumb nigger who gets shot in the head, nobody gives a shit about you. Fallout 4 wouldn't dare make you WORK for anything, gotta have that power armor right away, no training required, gotta lead that faction right away, no problem.
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>>186914626
To be fair at the end of NV the Courier is probably the most powerfull semi-immortal demigod that ever wandered the wasteland.
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>>186914517
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For my next NV playthrough, should I go for a stealtharcherâ„¢ that eventually ends up with the AMR or a more spray and pray kind of guy that uses stuff like the LMG and Bozar?
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>>186912649
>Overly long dialogue out the wahzoo where you have to spend ten or so minutes at a time listening to NPCs speak if you're not willing to speedread and skip lines
>Literally no fucking variability to how you approach shit in the first half, you're either nice to get people to do shit or a dick to get them to do it with no real change in anything besides one or two instances where you can auto-die, and the map is both restrictively designed with no real openess and looks like dogshit that's easy to get lost in due to how samey it is
>Fucking constant scavenging encouraged so you have resources which is tedious fucking busywork to pad out the length and completely invalidated by like six different methods you can use to make healing or combat a non-issue
>Dear fucking God Christine is the only have decent companion and its solely because she doesn't say the same three lines over and over again every ten seconds
>New Vegas is still fucking trash at implementing booby traps and the lack of granularity to movement on m+kb makes slowly approaching and disarming them super fucking annoying
>Constant fucking precision shots to hit broadcasting equipment that simultaneously rw
Equire no skillto do but are also a pain in the ass if you aren't built for accuracy because of the rng spread wasting valuable bullets
>god-awful, boring mooks everywhere
>Holy shit so far everything is either a fetch or escort quest

I shudder to think what it'll be like once I'm in the casino
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>>186914830
DAKKA
ALWAYS DAKKA
stealth archer is just boring
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>>186914626
>In New Vegas you're a dumb nigger who gets shot in the head, nobody gives a shit about you
That's blatantly false though, the minute you hit the strip you're House's personal golden boy and every major faction's leadership zones in on you - with most of the lategame quests at least partially hinging on your importance in the world.
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>>186911531
>mutants of the V87 strain constantly keep growing as they age, just like warhammer Orks
Maybe they'll eventually fill the role of giants or ogres in Fallout.
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>>186915493
House wants to use you, hoping you'll be in it for caps, revenge or information. The rest want you because you've gotten into a place that no one can, also just so happens to be the place to go if you want to get rid of House.
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>>186912058
Nice try, Todd.
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>>186914775
>at the end
Important distinction there.
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>>186915493
And for the potential hours before you waltz into the Lucky 38? The point is everybody recognises you as the protagonist within 5 minutes of leaving the vault in 4, NV at least has something very publicly remarkable happen to you to show you're a dick worth sucking.
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>>186915773
The first overhaul I've ever seen that looked good, although I prefer vanilla. I liked that she wasn't gorgeous. Mods that make everyone a 10/10 break my immersion.
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>>186915773
Hey, I'd fuck that face
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>>186915886
Nobody knows who you are in 4 until you start doing stuff, just like in NV. Literally every settler in Diamond City calls you scavver and expresses no interest in talking to you. Guards only start to recognise you by your deeds.

Shit on 4 all you want but christ, at least choose one of the countless valid criticisms.
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>>186916050
I use the preset as a base for my character. Figure a prewar rad free woman has a good excuse to look like hot shit compared people in the wastes.
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>>186879740
Love is timeless.
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>>186916434
Fuck off.
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>>186916434
God i hate you so much.
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>>186916232
>Within the first hour
>Trusted to make use of the power armor
>Requested to lead the settlement, build it and give out tasks
>Become the leader of a faction
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Whenever I think that I'm an opinionated asshole, I like to just sit down and read every comment in /fog/. It really puts it all into perspective and I feel better.

But anyways, I'll buy the VR shit when it is 60% off, probably.
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>>186917121
To their benefit, the "faction" consisted of pretty much one member (Preston) and the only reason he trusted you with the power armor was because no one else was willing to risk their lives using it (and it wasn't even theirs.) But you're right about being elected the leader. Would've made more sense to be made second in command, under Preston (but he is a pussy.)
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>>186917121
Okay, that's a group of 5 people recognising you as the protagonist because you show up and save their worthless asses. What's your point?

You do a deed and get recognised for it. My point still stands while yours doesn't.
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>Play Fallout and Fallout 2 through hundreds of times
>Play Bethesda Softworks Elder Scrolls titles
>Get a taste Fallout 3 and feel sick, I don't want Oblivion re-skinned I didn't enjoy Oblivion that much to begin with
>Don't touch Fallout sequels, just assume the series is a IP-franchise Money Zombie

>Playing Fallout: New Vegas for the first time

wheeew-wee. The number of quests in my quest log is growing at a quadratic rate and I'm getting uncomfortable on knowing how to solve all of them and I think Caesar's Legion are the bad guys but they actually seem better than the NCR and I'm addicted to like 20 drugs after I ran into a crashed vertibird and its small army of killer robots and tried to survive and my leg and both my arms are broken and I have a concussion and I'm running out of water and I search a ruined shack in the wasteland hoping to find supplies or help and I'm ambushed by these vipers raiders and I survive after some mad max style shit except it involved a giant shoulder mounted tesla superweapon thank god for ED-E's multi-tools for ammo he is the greatest thing ever and I can't believe that bitch did that to Boone's wife
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>>186911531
Doubt it, since Fallout 5 will take place in Johannesburg
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>>186917573
>They know literally nothing about you accept you helped them out (And you can ask for money for this), and you're from a vault
>You're the leader of the faction now! Here, take this fort by the castle, I know you don't know anything about the wasteland but just go ahead and lead anyway, you're the player character, you're important.

>>186917404
>To their benefit, the "faction" consisted of pretty much one member (Preston)
And all the others that are roaming around as nameless npcs, but I guess they somehow don't count. We only count named npcs right? That way its easy to argue!

Please show me in New Vegas where you are handed the leadership of any faction within the first hour, hell within the first eight. Its far worse than even Skyrims stupid magic guild where you don't need to even know any magic.

Not sure why you fags are defending it, shit is objectively terrible.
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>>186917997
I'm not defending anything, but simply replying to a point that I thought wasn't quite right.
Don't the nameless NPCs only show up after you start up the Minutemen again? I thought the context was "these are people who left the Minutemen after the collapse of the group" and new settlers that joined after helping them. Before that, it was pretty much just Preston left, wasn't it?
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>>186917852
>Not a single period or comma
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>>186917404
>>186917121
If you're wearing a vault suit, he might defer to you under the pretense that vault dwellers are likely more educated than your average wastelander.

He also says it's not his desire to lead and he seems to lack confidence in doing so after Quincy.

The power armor thing was more that you were the one capable, but I don't know about that since preston himself or sturges could have if they wanted. Maybe there should have been an option for preston to be the one in the armor and you go with him to help. But we also know that that sequence of the game was intentional to introduce an early cool moment with two of the iconic things of the series, PA and Dclaws, so it at least accomplished that.

Plus I think at the end of the day, it has to deal with wasteland culture. We see everywhere that people are pretty content with what they do. Most people seem to do the bare minimum. There's stil random dirt everywhere like the entrances to major cities. People just defend as far as not dying instead of organizing to actually stamp out a raider nest, etc. I think you being someone who is motivated and obviously energetic is a big part of why people seem to randomly trust you or task you with stuff.
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>>186917997
>started out talking about being recognised as the protagonist
>now talking about being leader of factions
The fate of Goodsprings is left in the hands of the protagonist. Nothing will happen without the courier's intervention and he gets to that stage by helping people out. They don't know anything about you except that you helped them, same with the powder gangers who have no reason to trust you and know nothing about you, except that you helped them. That's all it takes in these games.

Being made the leader of factions in Bethesda games is something that pisses me off because it's always handled poorly. Not only did they stop that trend where the Railroad and BoS are concerned, they also made the one faction that you do lead more believable. You are offered to take control of a practically dead faction and build it up from nothing. You might not have noticed but it plays in with the main theme of the game which is rebuilding. They made it work, even if it is a bit hamfisted at times.
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>>186918518
>If you're wearing a vault suit
That remains me
>Piper nicknames you blue because you're wearing a vault suit
>If you're not wearing a suit she still calls you blue because she is a physic who magically knows you're from a vault
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>>186916434
Why even post when everyone already knows what you are going to say everytime. Its always the same generic love rhetoric. I mean without ranting, I kinda get it. From what I can tell you spend too much time in fallout 4, and spend too much time here. I almost honestly believe if you got out there in the world you could find someone out there that would actually be nice for you. But you spend all that energy falling in love with a mediocre game's companion character, and you seem to spend the rest of your time here consistently posting what may be the creepiest and most out of touch with the world posts. Makes me believe you are ugly or fat irl. I don't understand it, sincerely.

I'm sure that means nothing to you. You wont leave, and if you removed the nametag and stopped tagging every post you make with pics of Cait I'm sure we'd still recognize you. I would rather have blatantly oversexualized waifuism and other degeneracies over your literal open love posts to a fictional video game character that you for some reason clog up the board with.

I guess what Im trying to say is, I dont think you are a BAD person or anything like that. You seem very kind hearted. What Im saying is out of anyone Ive ever crossed in life, you might be the biggest loser, bar that one guy from that Denko story.
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>>186918742
She says she can tell based on the "wide eyed" seeing the world for the first time look.

Which also doesn't necessarily make sense for some character appearances but they still at least acknowledged you might not be wearing the suit.
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>>186918518
>Motivated
>Obviously energetic
>Even if you act like a sarcastic asshole or a Merc
Ok
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>>186918742
If the average wastelander had mutations, uneven hair growth and radiation burns I would believe piper knowing he's a vault dweller
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>>186918518
Sturges says that he doesn't do guns and Preston doesn't trust you enough yet to watch over the settlers, so yes, it makes sense that the SS is the best option to don the power armor. If the SS dies helping them then at least they still stand a chance of holding the museum. If Preston died, there'd be nothing to stop the SS from simply bailing or trying to cut a deal with the raiders in exchange for Murphy. The SS is an unknown.

>>186918742
>>186918967
There's also the fact that Travis does a news report about somebody seen leaving the vault. Piper probably put two and two together since she's a smart investigative journalist. Not much gets by her so it isn't a stretch to believe that she'd know.
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>>186913969

>Preston Garvey makes me de facto leader of the Minutemen
>I literally do all the gruntwork for the entire fucking faction
>clearing out ghouls, fucking raiders in the ass, rescuing kidnapees, securing new settlements and allies, building everything by hand, making all the hard decisions and tough choices that result in entire communities getting to live another day
>head out to Nuka-World
>oh fuck, it's an entire raider army
>gain control of them, figure I can play into their wants, needs, and baser instincts to make them a force for good (even if they don't realize it)
>Garvey loses his goddamn mind and starts giving me ultimatums
>if I do what Garvey says, three very pissed off and leaderless raider gangs will start invading the commonwealth
>if I don't, then... umm... Garvey goes away forever? and I have to deal with the shitty raider system, i guess

guys what do
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>>186919186
kill garvet
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>>186917404
>>186916232
>>186917573
>get to cambridge
>help some soldiers shoot 8 ghouls
>or just barely wound 1 ghoul and let Danse do the rest, doesn't really matter
>recruited as BOS initiate
>okay i guess
>get to Prydwen
>meet maxson
>By the way you're a knight now.
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>>186918942
I am hideous, but I'm otherwise doing ok in life and pretty successful, so you're not entirely wrong.

Idk anon, I 'm just autistic or something. It's a mystery to me too.

>>186919146
>raiders are literally surrounding you
>you have a ticket out, an old suit of power armor you have acess to and a few moments to prepare it
>"heh sorry, I don't do guns. Guess we're dead"
uhhh....struges
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>>186919284
>You've found our secret hideout!
>The password was "Railroad"
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>>186919186
>if I do what Garvey says, three very pissed off and leaderless raider gangs will start invading the commonwealth
>implying
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>>186919284
>get to cambridge
>help some soldiers shoot 8 ghouls
>or just ignore it and laugh at how the game doesn't react to your inaction
>get asked to help them find a thing so they can send a message to the rest of the brotherhood
>help danse fight off an army of synths and get the thing
>get offered a place in the BoS since you can clearly handle yourself and know how to take orders
I haven't gotten any further in the BoS line that but your account is a little inaccurate up to that point.
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>>186919412
>you've walked the Freedom Trail? By yourself????

Well yeah there were only like 5 supermutants and 3 ghouls along the way what's the big deal here.
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>>186919284
Well, Paladin Danse is a high ranking member that vouched for you. It's still a bit silly, but at least they make Maxson make a point of saying "I don't really trust you just because you were vouched for" and has you do a few quests.
It does go faster than it should though.
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>>186919392
Power armor would mess up his hair

>>186919412
This is among the dumbest shit in the game.
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>>186897036
>>186898084
So after some testing I've discovered that FCOM's make a soldier into a settler feature just turns them into a normal settler and they will no longer be able to follow the player. So that's that idea out the window.
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>>186919146
>SS just murdered a bunch of raiders to save people he doesn't even know
>mmmmh this guy is an unknown, guess we'll stick him in the murdersuit with a fully loaded minigun just in case he tries to kill us
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>>186919474

Implying what? If you complete the quest Open Season, then when your settlements in the Commonwealth come under attack there's a chance that the attacking party is one of the three raider gangs. Just like how when you start Automatron, your settlements can be attacked by Rust Devils.
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>>186919412
The funnier part is that none of their enemies had found their base yet. Even with all of those copies of holotapes that say "WALK THE FREEDOM TRAIL" just laying around the Commonwealth.
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>>186919654

And a decoder ring at the front door, don't forget the decoder ring. Don't tell anyone, but the secret password is [railroad].
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>>186919859
Use your brain anon. If the SS wanted them dead then he wouldn't have bothered helping them in the first place. Sure, he might want to take the pleasure of doing it himself and the best way of doing that would be to pretend that he's helping them.

If some guy shows up and helps you but you aren't 100% sure about him, would you leave him to defend your friends while you go out into the shit or would you send him out to deal with the raiders? It's obvious.
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>>186919284
You helped the recon team fight a wave of ghouls, and Danse, an actual officer, says you're cool. Plus at that point you also may have helped him go to arcjet, and he sees you fight the real enemy, synths, and since you're already that deep in the rabbit hole, he wants you on board. It makes sense.

>>186919908
Why didn't the institute kill them? They have crows that watched them walk around and find the new base. They watched them enter and leave. They watched me enter and leave.

And in the fluff, not the in game mechanics, we also know that just several coursers could have killed the dozen-ish people down there.

A lot of this stuff, the tapes and the trail and all that, is just for the benefit of the player in real life to be sure everyone got it. I like to pretend in my head that it was more difficult and more secretive.
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>>186919412
>>186919908
>>186920041
And yet people needed help figuring it out.
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>>186920398
I love how they decided to put ghouls in the tunnel too, because what better way to recruit people and test their worth and attitude toward synths by having them killed by zombies.
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>>186919392
Im serious Caitfag, leave here and go talk to real people. I think you are caring and considerate of other peoples feelings and you strike me as v empathetic. Every time Im here and see you are posting I once and awhile think that you are wasting your time here when you could honestly be doing the things you do in fallout but irl.

But also you shit up these threads overbearingly amount and I wish you would also leave for that reason.
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I haven't fucked enough of the companions but please tell me they give you shit if you sleep around with the other ones

let me guess they don't
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>>186920272
I'd have put fucking Sturges in the godmode suit actually, but that would have made too much sense for this game. There is no using your brain here, that whole quest doesn't make sense and is very obviously a very contrived way of putting you in charge of the minutemen. It's shit writing, and don't get me started on the dialogue. Those fucks chew their saviour out the moment he stops saying "yes sir" with a smile.
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>>186920579
We at the railroad believe in synth rights BUT FUCK THOSE GHOULS.
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>>186920839
They just say they have hurt feelings but you can convince them to take you back with the top voice option.
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>>186920579
I like how they judged your attitude with a nice, well thought out test.
"Would you die for a synth? Yes? Well then, welcome aboard!"
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>>186920839
>let me guess they don't
Of course not its a Beth game, you're not going to get that kind of detail. Companions don't interact or know each other exist.
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>>186920878
I agree 100% that it's badly written, along with the majority of the game but the situation you're presented with in-game, with Sturges being a little bitch and saying he doesn't do violence, then they're shit out of options.
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>>186920839
>>186920964
Do they have hurt feelings? I haven't seen anything like this yet, and I keep all of them in one settlement.
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>>186920839
They don't give a shit. I think maybe Curie loses some affection points or whatever if you woo someone else while she's in your team, otherwise you can sleep with Hancock while Danse sits next to the bed.
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>Take H2 to Ticonderoga
>There's just a non hostile Courser chilling inside and not attacking any of the Railroad members
>Cap the courser
>No one bats an eye
What.
>>
What's going down in post-apocalyptia these days?
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>>186920969
If you say "No" you're still welcome aboard.
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how to fix please
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>>186921108
Yeah, Romance two companions then go talk to the once you romanced first.
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>>186921186
Coursers are Synths too you racist.
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>>186897625
You just scrolled through the entire thread then.
Just wait until the next so maybe the tripfaggots, namefaggots and other assorted cancer will lose interest and fuck off to AIDS up another general
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>>186921963
Missing textures, reinstall the mod.
>>
Daily reminder to hide, filter and ignore all name- and tripfags.
>>
missing/disabled shit

reinstall mod/ toggle invalidation
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>>186922097
Don't reply to namefag cancer what are you doing.
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>>186922154
Looks like you missed the daily reminder to grow up in your developmental years
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Here.
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>>186921963
Been a while since I modded NV, but that means that whatever mod that is was installed incorrectly and the models are missing.

Try re-installing it, make sure to read the mod's install instructions, etc. It's also possible that whatever mod that is isn't compatible with whatever mod organizer you;re using.
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>>186922269
Didn't notice his name because I don't really care. /fog/ helped me fix my game before, I'm returning the favor.
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>>186921963
Looks like New Vegas, the game you're looking for is Fallout 4.
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>>186922339
>>186921963
See? It works.
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>>186921963
>>186922339
Sad.
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>>186922339
Sure if you're quick you can delete your post and nobody will notice, namefag cancer.
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>Can't use workbenches while in power armor
>But you can pick locks and hack terminals
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>>186922097
>>186922370
Fuck off
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>>186922879
How about you fuck off?
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>>186922339
kys
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>>186922919
watch out guys
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>>186922919
I was here first.
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>>186922818
it's almost like everything is half-assed and unfinished in open world games
>>
HeyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyXD
Guys I love generals because I can namefag and roleplay as much as I want just like on Reddit XD
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>>186923000
Fallout 4 is a masterpiece.
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>>186922818
Terminals I can see interfacing with the power armor's built in HUD, but you're right about lockpicks. Though you should just be able to kick in doors with power armor.
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Why does everyone here get so triggered over someone posting with a name?
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>>186923000
trips confirm.
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>>186923000
How is that half-assed and unfinished? It's a flag.

Using workbenches has a third person animation which would look ridiculous in power armor.

Not allowing locks to be picked and terminals to be hacked in power armor would be frustrating as all hell and break up the gameplay flow.

It's called game design.
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>>186923172
kys
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>>186923282
ingram manages just fine
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>>186923172
No idea. I wish anonymous fags would realize that the only reason they post without a name is because they are afraid of people remembering a dumb post. Insecure faggots.
Fallout 4 > NV?
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>>186923172
>why do people get triggered over people using names on an anonymous imageboard
hmmm
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>>186923172
I knowwwwwwwwww like there's nothing wrong with it like we should totally add post counts and avatars and blogs as well omg you guys would loooooooove it XD
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>>186923136
That would make lockpicking moot then since you get a T-45 at the beginning of the game and could just bypass every master lock by using your universal boot. I guess it could be a late stage strength perk though.
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>>186923493
Fallout 3 is literally perfect and blows all other games out of the water tbf famalam
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>>186922339
What a faggot
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>>186923282
>Workshops couldn't possibly have alternate animations for PA if the game had more polish

alrighty
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>>186923282
How can you do something delicate such as picking a lock with you big animatronic fists, but not be able to use a drill press or glue two pieces of leather together?
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>>186923473
Ingram is in a frame. They don't have to account for all of the different PA parts.
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>>186912058
Same, I made it to the hotel and got fucking bored of it.
I haven't played in a week.
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>>186923696
They could've but it's not half-assed or unfinished. It's just something they decided not to do.

>>186923742
Like I said, one would break up the gameplay flow. Obviously you wouldn't be able to do it IRL but it doesn't make for a very fun game if you have to exit your PA every time you want to pick a lock.
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>>186923493
>afraid of people remembering a dumb post
>Fallout 4 > NV
At least you recognize that it's a dumb opinion.
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>>186923172
I like sucking dicks.
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>>186924384
Me too, Yamzies. Me too.
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>>186924384
but do you swallow?
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So the high-res texture pack for Fo4 is ultimately pointless, right?
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>>186924681
Nah that shit gay.
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>>186924384
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>>186924743
yes
>60 gigs
>20 of which are vanilla
>horribly unoptomized on top of the pile of jangly shit they call regular optimization so your face turns completely black
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So, this general has to be worse than /tesg/ right? I can't imagine that place being worse than here.
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>>186924985
Depends what you want. If you want to enter the 10 year debate then you'll love it here.
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>>186924743
It has it's pros, but >>186924907 is true as well.
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>>186924907
>implying they didn't want you to play as a black (wo)man anyways
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>the only reliable source of NCR money is off of Powder Gangers

what a shitty currency.
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>>186924985
Depends on the day and time, right now there's just a lot of sexual tension going on
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Dad has funny-tasting penis.
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>>186925690
Yeah he does
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Great, now to to change those settings to something that would actually work.
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>>186925690
Please stop.
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Wasteland Grunts or the Mercenary pack?
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>>186925950
Are you from reddit?
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>>186925993
Disregard this post, I please gay men for free.
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>>186926084
never heard of grunts but I always had problems with mercenary pack showing up on top of the vanilla gear or not at all, meaning naked gunners and such
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>>186926113
epic post friend

truly hilarious i laughed at least twice
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Migrate for fresh bread

>>186926219
>>186926219
>>186926219
>>186926219
>>186926219
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>>186917121
>faction consists of six people
Yeah man some serious shit right there
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