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Previous >>186802000

Chihaya Edition

NEWS
>Persona 5 anime coming in 2018: http://personacentral.com/persona-5-animation-announced-air-2018/
>Persona Q2 revealed: http://pq2.jp
>Persona 3: Dancing Moon Night and Persona 5: Dancing Star Night revealed: http://persona-dance.jp/
>Persona 4 featured in BlazBlue Cross Tag Battle: http://personacentral.com/blazblue-cross-tag-battle-announced-features-persona-4-arena/

INFO
>P5 Info
pastebin.com/MJuR9h0S

GUIDES
>General Guide
pastebin.com/eCHRjKCZ
>PQ Guide
pastebin.com/Bq16HvJh
>P4U2 Guide/Resources
pastebin.com/M3MPepKb

DOWNLOADS
>Art, Guides, Music, etc.
pastebin.com/Vh0CdRit
>P4 Dengeki Comic Anthology
mediafire.com/?4kjjaf0jtw2jyj3
>Persona Image Collection
mediafire.com/?9j3us2v34coua
>Persona 5 Resources
pastebin.com/CZEvEgiE
>Persona ISOs
mega.nz/#F!5iQAGTLB!U1LUUTLtawRdsWSDDFSAQQ
>Persona Super Live P-Sound Bomb!!!! 2017 concert
mega.nz/#F!FrozXCyI!-GKGzOozZmejeAnDZQdUbw

MANGA
>Scans
personascans.tumblr.com
mediafire.com/personascans#unst48ukbu457
pastebin.com/L3WXvsf3
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>>186847621
R.I.P.
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>>186847621
First for Chihaya a shit, Ann a best.
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Obligatory end of Makoto Monday post
Good night, /pg/.
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Reminder that all girls deserve love and cuddles.
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Ann is slut!
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>>186803478
ay bro i got a story just like yours, check it out so my girl likes this game persona 5. now im not no weeaboo faggot liking anime, i usually play sports games but hoooo weee persona 5 is a great game. i told my boy taz about it and he thought it was fuckin gay. i had to explain to him im not a japanime loving tooter and that the game was actually good. anyways i get to bang my girlfriend while the intro jazz music is playing. thats what im talkin bout
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>>186847919
YAY!
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Are Annfags the new /pg/ boogeyman?
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Akechi!
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>>186847919
Ohya?
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>>186848072
Sure, why not?
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Can we actually talk about persona instead of baiting eachother and all this meta bullshit?
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>>186848039
>Akira
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What would a handjob from Makoto feel like?
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>>186848113
Ohya is for smooching and gentle loving.
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>>186848226
with ryuji
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>>186848196
t. assblasted trashcannfag
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>>186848296
he wishes
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>>186848196
probably not
>>186848072
no that's still makotofags and groofags
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>>186848092
Is second fiddle to Loki !
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>>186848196
This is a Persona general??
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Claiming this loving, lovable lady.
Best model.
Most compassionate.
I'm so proud of Ann. I love her.

Happy Takamaki Tuesday! Enjoy your special day, sweetie.

>>186847831
Your words belittle your image.

>>186847919
This is correct.
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>>186848337
Do genuine Gorofags still exist around here?
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Congratulating Goro for passing his college exams by fucking him ! Maybe holding his hand while we're at it
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>>186848421
I'm sure we do. I mean he's gonna be the cannon girl in the anime.
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NEET
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Teaching lolikoto how to cook !
Spanking teen Sae's ass!
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>>186848072
Hey look, if Annfags would like to celebrate and defend disappointing mediocrity, that's their call. It's not our job to protect their darling little hearts from reality.
I mean, when *I'm* a fag of something, I tend to have some standards and expect the best from what I enjoy, but I realize some people, they're not like that. They're settlers. They don't demand the finer things in life. They're happy with their shit sandwiches and dreary hovels. That's simply not my lifestyle. I'm sorry, I simply have standards.
It's my personal hope that any Annfag who is angry with us enjoy sucking down their dry, blacked bread, and have a good time convincing themselves they just dined at the Ritz. What matters is they can convince themselves they've made a good decision with the finite amount of time they have on this planet.
God bless those youngins precious souls.
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>>186848092
Is Joker's boyfriend!
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Reposting that Goro/Joker fic link in case you ever come back anon-kun.
https://archiveofourown.org/works/11342964
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>>186848453
Damn anon, that's lewd...!
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She's mine /pg/
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>>186848770
Oh shit, didn't see you link to it last thread. Thanks man.
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>>186848628
Oh, no...
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>all this Anne bashing
>No kawakucks in sight
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>>186848648
Bullying teen Sae !
Stealing her books !
Spitting in her face !
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>>186849053
They are the shitposters, after all :^)
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>>186849053
Most of those (besides kawawriter who seems to genuinely hate Ann) are falseflaggers.
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>>186849143
Subtle.
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>>186849132
Please leave teen sae out of this. Bully lolikoto instead.
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>>186849163
That's their lifestyle.
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>>186849132
Teen Tae's going to beat the shit out of you.
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Did Kamoshida rape Shiho?
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>>186849209
Fuck you
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>>186849258
No, the bait.
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>>186849330
What bait?
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>>186849308
No, she's still pure
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>>186849308
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>>186849209
>Not bullying both
>Not promising to leave Sae alone if she helps you bully her sister
>Not holding lolikoto down as Sae tortures her
>Not deciding to bully Sae anyways and letting lolikoto exact revenge
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>>186849163
>>186849330
What bait? I seriously doubt all Kawakamifags shitpost that much.
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>>186849313
No fuck you, leave teen sae alone.
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>>186849408
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>>186849393
What kind of torture? Please elaborate
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>>186849408
He's trying to paint Kawakamifags as falseflaggers, especially a particular one, using a loaded statement.
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>>186849430
I didn't bully her, but I'll be damned if I let you bully my daughter
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>>186849272
oh no I'm forced to use my superior body mass to wrestle teen Tae to the ground

I have to pin her squirming body underneath mine, how horrible
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best goddess reporting in
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Bullying lolikoto !
Stealing her headband !
Snapping them in half right in front of her !!!
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>>186849518
The fuck? I just said that most are falseflaggers.

In that most people who shit on Ann while using Kawakami images aren't in fact Kawakamifags and are just trying to make them look bad.

The exact opposite of what you claim I said. Unless you think all Kawakamifags are indeed massive shitposters.
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>>186849597
*granny
only granny
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L-Lookin' cool Joker!

>>186848879
No problem my man.
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>>186849646
cake =! granny
i'll fucking kill you with my own two hands over this you little faggot
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>>186849605
You'll regret that
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>>186849630
Oh okay, I misread. I don't think Kawawriter hates Annfags, but I also don't think the others do either.
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Aside from the torture scene at the beginning (when Sae goes to the interrogation room), what else Atlus would have to change if they ever made Joker into a girl?
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I fucking hate all of you
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>>186849630
>Unless you think all Kawakamifags are indeed massive shitposters.
They aren't?
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>>186848549
Signing in!
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I miss fuukafag
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I love Makoto
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Is vishnu a good persona in 5?
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>>186849743
What are you gonna do fag

Grabbing lolikoto !
Hanging her over the apartment balcony !!
Laugh as she cries !!!!
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>>186849819
Then just go to /v/ and find one of his many threads.
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>>186849756
Idk how Kawawriter feels, that's why I said seems to.

He's written a story about Ann getting cucked before and bitched about supposed Annfags requesting a story about Kawakami fucking Ryuji. So idk, that seems pretty hateful.
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>>186849507
Putting gross bugs on her face, force-feeding her wasabi and hot sauce, twisting her arm, and then finally just tickling her until she passes out from exhaustion.
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Tae Tuesday?
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>>186849846
I'm warning you
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Makoto, dear...
Could you please take over the class for a moment? Grandma is feeling abit tred...
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>>186849408
Kawakami, Haru and gorofags disappear when there's shitposting
coincidence?
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>>186850041
I don't think so!
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>>186850041
What about RPers? >>186850031
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>>186849984
How come this guy gets a pass??
>>186849895
Very hot btw
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>>186849820
Me too
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>>186849870
I didn't know that. My bad, it seems like you know what you're talking about if this is true.
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I can't wait for Persona 5 Akechi Goro of the Resurrection!
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>>186850148
So does ryuji!
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>>186850041
Gorofag here, I've been too busy with other things to shitpost here these past few days. Let's have fun together next time.
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>>186850189
Aww. I hope Ryuji builds up the courage to ask Makoto out.

They'd be sooo cute together.
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>>186850041

da fuq you talking about? I just got here, now claiming the floof
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>>186850041
Also that FeMCfag does too
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>>186850189
Ryuji loves Anne, silly.
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>>186850156
Kawakami writer and domestics bro is the same person
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>>186850256
Nah

>>186850280
Nah, Domesticsfag is a Makotofag or a Futabafag iirc.
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>>186850280
It all makes sense now
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>>186850315
Yah.
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>>186847912
>>186848039
>>186849820
>>186850148
They look happy together
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>>186850239
Can you imagine how awkward their first date would be? Ryuji would be shaking in his boots and Makoto would be blushing the whole time!
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>>186850315
He said he was a Makotofag.
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>>186850421
And i have to believe in his word because...?
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>>186850481
Why would he lie?
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>>186850421
>Makotofag
>writes stories about her brutally getting beaten up
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>>186850421
>makotofag writing abuse stories about his waifu
Doesn't add up.
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>>186850481
Well Makoto is the only one that gets saved in his stories
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>HD Fuuka model soon

I'm ecstatic
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>>186850114
>>186849846

Hey now, bullying is nice and fun, but dangling people of ledges is dangerous!

Try something safe instead, like pouring water down her throat until she's forced to piss herself, then show her off to her classmates!
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>>186850510
Why would he tell the truth? He could've just said that to make Makotofags even angrier
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>>186850369
They are
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>>186850510
Why wouldn't he?
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>Anne is sweaty!
>Anne is buxom!
>Anne is beautiful!
>Anne is happy!
>Anne is wet!
>Anne is cute!
>Anne is flexible!
>Anne is an angel!
>Anne is lewd!
>Anne is sad!
>Anne is silly!
>Anne is for kisses!
>Anne is stylish!
>Anne is for sexual!
>Anne is awesome!
>Anne is sultry!
>Anne is pure!
>Anne is amused!
>Anne is quality!
>Anne is Lovers!
>Anne is canon!
>Anne is an apricot!
>Anne is an actress!
>Anne is a model!
>Anne is Santa Claus!
>Anne is Anne, not Ann!
>Anne is best girl!
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>>186850557
Here you go bud, this is the closest your gonna get.
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>>186850612
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>>186850612
Anne is trashcanne
Anne is cannecer
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>>186850612
is there anything Anne isn't?
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>>186850684
That face is unsettling
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>>186850716
#1
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>>186850669
wrong img, anon
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Persona is for girls
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>>186850716
Relevant enough to our glorious japanese overlords.
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>>186850826
did she bite and suck on his eye?

the fuck is going on here?
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Is it true that Hackshino has never been friends with a woman
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>>186850826
>Ryuji teaches joker a lesson after finding out he had hit makoto
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Good reminder
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>>186850884
Halloween costumes.
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>>186850750
Nanjo is the #1!
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Good reminder
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>>186850916
>wada talks to more women albeit mechanical
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Arsene worked alone while Robin Hood was nothing without his men, so why is it that their positions are reversed?
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>>186850612
Anne is 70 votes!
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>>186851060
Because irony
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>>186850978
Fuck off, Groojo!
Nobody loves you.
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>>186850415
They'd go out for ramen and Ryuji would feel a little out of place being on a date with someone like her. He'd duck under the table when a classmate almost recognizes them. But Makoto would assure him that she isn't embarrassed to be seen with him and she's having a great time. The rest of the evening goes by pretty smoothly and they'd learn a little more about each other with easy conversation. They'd walk to the train station, with Ryuji insisting he walk her all the way back to her apartment. Neither realizing they've been holding hands the whole time.

When he drops her off afterwards, Ryuji say an awkward goodbye and try to leave before turning back and mustering up the courage to kiss her on the cheek. Makoto would smile and they'd make plans to go out again.
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>>186851114
I do.
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>>186851202
No, you don't.
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>>186851002
Mechanical women are superior.
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>>186851105
The even funnier thing is that when one considers it was Goro who's both a Phantom Thief and detective who resorts to shady methods to out people, he may have well been Arsene's wielder in a scenario where he didn't have to be a murderer. Truly ironic.
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>>186847621
I love my cute wife Chihaya!
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>>186851152
Nawww perfect
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>>186850826
What should the gang wear for the Halloween event DLC?

>Joker gets an elegant vampire outfit
>Morgana is a pumpkin
>Ann is some Western celebrity nobody knows
>Ryuji is a Phantom Thief
>Yusuke has the most realistic and terrifying oni costume
>Makoto is shocked to find out the police officer outfit she bought is actually a slutty costume
>Futaba has a detailed Featherman cosplay and gets mad when people think she's the most recent iteration of the character when she's clearly supposed to be from the original generation.
>Haru just puts on cat ears
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>>186850935
God damn that's thick and sexy.

I fucking love Yusuke's sword, wish that whore would get out of the way though.
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>>186851376
Yusuke wears his PT outfit.
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>>186851376
>Ryuji
>A Phantom Thief
Bullshit!
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>>186851376
Sojiro wears an apron and nothing else
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>>186851060
Arsene was born from Joker's disillusionment with the world and realization that he has to take matters into his own hands.

Robin Hood was born from Goro wishing to become a team player.
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What are the worst DLC costumes, /pg/? Not this one, because I like the DAN outfits.

>>186851376
Would Goro be a mummy?
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>>186851543
She's such a little whoooooore
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>>186851543
SMT If because the color scheme is horrible.
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>>186851543
Persona 1 and 2 for me.
I can't believe atlus had the nerve of using fanfic content in their game.
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>>186851543
P1

>ugly as fuck
>no variation
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>>186851373
They had a psuedo date in-game. These two are adorable.
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>>186851530
I think P5 has its flaws but what you said too shows just how much thought the writers put into the writing and symbolism.

And you're right, people have pointed out both of Goro's Metaverse outfits betray his desire to have friends as they're based off super sentai shows. What else does super sentail shows do? Showing that good prevails over evil no matter what.
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>>186851604
/pg/'s whore?

>>186851628
>>186851652
Haven't seen these ones, guess I should check out those abominations.
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Help, lolikoto is addicted to Pachinko and I don't know what to do.
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Queen is a goddess and belongs to Joker!
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I should've gone to bed a little earlier, but what fun is Takamaki Tuesday when you just sleep through it?
Night Personababs.
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Sae and Tae are PERFECT together!
Beautiful, smart, educated, professional, sexy CAKES belong together forever!
Incredible chemistry!
Ideal match! OTP!
Nothing else compares!
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>>186851939
shhhh, /pg/ hates the truth
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>>186852002
Nights
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Pancake boy deserves all the hugs!
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>>186852015

Where's the drawfag to help bring this OTP to life?!
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>>186852108
You can commission artists you know
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>>186852081
How would he react to one? Embrace it because he loves being acknowledged, be surprised or act coy like he's above such childish needs?
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>>186852108
Ask in the request thread on /u/. That's where that Kawakami/Usami pic came from and /u/ are usually pretty nice about requests.
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>>186852250
I'd say all three but in the order of surprised -> act coy and probably tell Joker to let him go -> get emotional.
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>>186852108
I would reccomend the /v/ drawthread but they mostly fight about stupid shit rather than get requests done
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I love Haru!
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>>186852436
I think that makes sense given that when Ann said perhaps he should join them to take Shido down he acts exactly like that and says he doesn't get them when he does, and he's simply been treated as a disposable tool so long it takes him longer to process that than a gun pointed at his head. Whatever Atlus is planning for him had better be big and have hugs.
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Who would win in a fight to the death between lolikoto and the us marines
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>>186852670
Does lolikoto have her persona?
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>>186851114
>>186851202
I do too. I love my friends here.
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>>186852730
No but she has a toy gun
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>>186849870
>He's written a story about Ann getting cucked before

To be fair, I was there for that, and he put that up for a strawpoll, and WE voted for cuckolding after three-four people suggested variant Ann stories.
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>>186852995
And Daddy's handcuffs!!
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Nyx, Ameno-sagiri, and Yaldabaoth all did nothing wrong.
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Phantom is from Sumaru City!
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>>186853159
Lolikoto would win a free ticket to poundtown
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>>186853178
Technically this is actually true as they're listening to the wills of the people. Where this become an issue obviously is that the protagonists don't want the same thing as the masses and P5 for all its flaws shows that subconscious desires are a massive bitch.
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>>186852648
I want to slowly heal Goro with big hugs! I find it nice how Goro said that he and Joker would've probably been good friends if the circumstances had been different. Then again I wonder what the definition of a "good friend" is to him.
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>>186851867
Okay Sae, this is going to sound weird, but there's a video game with a pachinko minigame in it. You can use that to discipline her by threatening to take it away if her grades go bad.
It's called the Yakuza series.

>the origin of Makoto's love for Yakuza
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>>186853378
Apparently Goro's standards are pretty much 'Honest', 'Gives me space' and 'Doesn't treat me like a puppet'. It's interesting in retrospect that while we don't know whether he already knew Joker was the leader of the PTs in his rank 1 Confidant, he was one of the few Confidants who identified Joker as a good guy from the start.
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>>186853378
No doubt they'd be all over each other's dicks.

But nah, it would have been fun watching them spend time together in a different timeline and seeing just what adventures they'd go on.
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>>186853378
I want to strap Goro to a table and circumcise him without using anesthetics! With a dull kitchen knife!
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>>186853553
At the very least, he knew Joker was a Phantom Thief, because by that point he could hear Morgana talk, which means he was tailing them in the Metaverse.
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I love Naoto!
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>>186853504
>She just sits and racks up hours in Pachinko
Man I loved blackjack and ceelo
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>>186853618
It also strikes me that Goro might not even have been talking about the PTs being bad guys who manipulate hearts seeing that when you first play the game you wouldn't know the ties he has to the Conspiracy.

That's most likely why he was so bothered about their methods seeing that he couldn't tell what the fuck might have happened: The PTs think they're on a fun justice romp but for all he knew that might have led to them being busted and used like he was down the line given how unsubtle they were. It'd really be fun to see his side of the story.
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>>186853731
I mean, good on you I'd you're able to, but I've fucking HATED gambling minigames ever since the Game Corner in Pokemon Red, which sucks because apparently getting all the equipment you can from the games in P1 is practically required to beat SQQ, if you want all the Ultimates, anyway.
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>Goro will still come to arrest you even after his death scene if you don't steal Shidou's heart in time
Kek.
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>>186854002
Because Alechi never died, Anon. Little fucker just pussed out like a bitch when you went to fight Shido, and didn't bother helping you fight Yaldabaoth.
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>>186854002
I still have no idea how they could have made such a big oversight
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>>186854002
>Goro
>"""death scene"""
P5 Akechi Gaiden is coming, anon !
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>>186854002
You know, that scene had a filter like when you're recalling all the other fake-out endings so I wonder if that actually happened. The only thing we can confirm is Joker still died given the game over screen.
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Hello friends!
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>they forgot about Mona Monday
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>>186854215
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>>186854002
Wow. that's really bad planning.
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Lets do something fun. Draw your waifu/husbando/favorite character in Paint
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>>186854275
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Turtleneck Tuesday!
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>>186854368
Makoto isn't even doing anything
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>>186854118
>Alechi
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>>186854215
Hey Labrysfag. How are you?
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>>186854275
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>Really should go to sleep right now
>Don't want to stop writing my most likely shitty joker/akechi fic
I just thought I'd do this to waste some time but I didn't realize just how much fun this is.
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>>186854354
but I can't draw
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lsOHq2jOkw
Damn, the Metaverse looks surprisingly good when animated.
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>>186854576
Well yeah, thats the fun part
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>>186854546
kys
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>>186854576
It's okay, nobody can draw in Paint anon.
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>>186854546
Kys
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>>186854546
kill yourself
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>>186854612
>>186854706
>>186854738
Keep em coming boys.
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>>186854465
Not bad. On 11/23 of my first playthrough of Golden. Excited to finish up the original game and get smack dab into the new content.
And get that throwaway reference to pic related.
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>>186854354
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>>186854853
Wait, Labrys is referenced in Golden?
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>>186854960
They said something happened in May. Not really an elaborate reference, but that's when Arena and Ultimax take place.
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>>186854546
What's it about?
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>>186854906
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>>186854354
You can probably tell I haven't drawn in a long time
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>>186854354
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>>186855580
God damn anon, thats really good
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>>186854354
I spent more time on this joke than it deserved
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>>186855663
Thanks dude I appreciate it
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/pg/ I need advice.

Should I buy my first dildo so I can more easily pretend Akechi is fucking me or should I save my money? What's a good starting size?
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>>186855712
You should work for Atlus
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>>186855747
The smallest you can find, you're going for full Akechi Anal Immersion.
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>>186855697
I think it was well worth it
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>>186855786
Alternatively if he were going for Joker Ryuji or Yusuke he would have to get a 10 incher
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>>186855697
Made me chuckle
8/10
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>>186855747
If you were pretending to be fucked by Mikoto or Kawakami with a strap-on, I'd give you advice.
But otherwise? No.
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>>186855914
>mikoto
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>>186855914
But anon, you shouldn't kink shame. /pg/ is sex positive.
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>>186855975
Is this an aidspost
>>186855952
Annefags are stealing memes again. You guys are so bad at coming up with your own jokes.
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>>186856051
Is this an aidspost
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>this will never be my view of Akechi
Why live?
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>>186856156
>Why live?
No reason at all
kys
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>>186856156
Fuck off fujo
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>>186855975
I shame anyone who wants Akechi
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I TOLDYA TO PULL OUT RYUJI! IT'S NOT A SAFE DAY!
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>>186856278
Rpers are disgusting. Go back to tumblr.
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>>186856272
What about Kokoro?
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>>186856342
mean
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>>186856354
still shit
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Dating Naoto!
Gaining her trust!
Telling her you love her!
Drugging her one day!
Stripping her bare and redressing her in lacey underwear and a frilly girly dress!
Binding her to a chair and setting up a video camera in front of her!
Recording yourself cumming all over her face as she wakes up!
Zooming in on her tear-streaked, cum covered face!
Listening to her pleads for freedom!
Panning the camera down to her chest!
tearing the dress apart to reveal her lacey pink bra!
Watching her face turn an even deeper shade of red as you pull the bra down!
Fondling Naoto's breasts as she tries to get free!
Listening her her restrained squeaks!
Stopping just as she starts to give up!
Zooming the camera into her crotch!
Reveling in her sobs as you lift her dress!
Forcing her legs apart to reveal her sopping wet panties!
Pulling them to the side to show her wet pussy! Teasing her over it!
Spreading it apart and stroking it!
Pulling out multiple vibrators! Coating them in an aphrodisiac!
Putting them into her one by one!
Naoto's face contorting in a mix of pain, pleasure and fear as you turn them on!
Listening to her cute moans and heavy breathing!
Watching her futility pull against her restraints as she nears her limit!
Recording her first orgasm!
Leaving them in so she can have her second and third one as well!
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>>186856342
The irony.
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>>186856449
He's right though
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>>186856449
Irony. Because Iron is a metal.
The discovery of how to make steel was ironic.
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>>186856520
Ikutsuki was right.
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>>186856414
This, but with Nanako
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>>186856496
Yes he is, and that is why his post is ironic.
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>I don't think Takaya and Ikutsuki would have Palaces unless they genuinely had other aspirations and the reality of their situation made them lose their way. Palaces are the result of contradiction between one's desires and one's actions, even fucking Shadow Shidou says it's been a long time since he could be honest because he's a monster now but his Palace wouldn't have existed unless he genuinely wanted a better Japan before.
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>>186856414
Zooming the camera to out so it can see her convulsing, sweaty body!
Panning it toher face, so it can capture her cute zoned-out, defeated expression!
Moving the camera closer and to her side!
Watching Naoto regain awareness as you unzip your pants!
Resting your cock on her face as you stroke her hair!
forcing your way into her mouth! Telling her if she can make you cum you'll take the vibrators out!
Her reluctantly sucking you off!
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>>186856586
It's only ironic if you think Labrysfag is disgusting and should go back to tumblr. I don't.
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>>186856628
This but with Nanako
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>>186856660
Alright mouthbreather, here's your last (You).
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Just bought P3FES. Any tips for a Persona first timer?

Also best girl?
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Girl Fox!
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>>186856660
I mean, I'm a meatbag, therefore I'm disgusting. Just less so than those filfthy RPers.
>>186856768
Pic related. Genki, mechanically engineered Seito Kaichou with ponytail.
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>>186856660
>I don't think this avatarfagging blogposter should go back to tumblr
fuck off to your Discord
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Friend called me up to say that he finished p5. Said that he accepted false igor to go back. Laughed my ass off.
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>>186856768
Mitsuru and only Mitsuru
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>>186856768
Have fun, prepare for feels, Play on the hardest difficulty if you enjoy grinding or know people who would disrespect you if you didn't.
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>>186856827
The irony.
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>>186856768
You chooseth this fate of thyn own free will.

Yukari
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>>186856342
>>186856827
>says the one who roleplays as husband/wife with one of the worst shitposters on /pg/
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>>186856924
How does someone role play as a husband/wife?
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>>186856768
Go to the bathroom everyday.

Also Mitsuru.
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>>186856924
This meme again. Alright. Also, I try and discuss the games when possible. Or ask opinions on things. I'm not screeching about having babies or aids or whatever. Shit is just annoying.
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>>186857052
You're not wrong
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>>186857052
>I try not to be cancerous all the time
How do you know the roleplayers don't also engage in real discussion when they aren't being insufferable pieces of shit like you?
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>>186857116
Why are you indulging him? He knows he's cancer, he doesn't care.
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>>186857116
Not him, but the role players are way more annoying than any of the discordfags. At least they give /pg/ a break from to time.
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Togo Tuesday?
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>>186857145
what moonrunes can Joker decide to cast here?
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>>186857184
they're both just as bad
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So, do you guys think that Morgana in Persona 4 Arena v3 featuring Persona 5 is gonna be an annoyingly small character like Servebot or Yoda?
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Takamaki Tuesday? Takamaki Tuesday it is
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>>186857206
Kill Hifumi !
Death to Hifumi !
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Akechi Gruesday?
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>>186857265
Probably.
why must my cat garner so much hatred?
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>>186857238
Nope. At least they don't drag my waifu into their autism. I'll take the discordfags any day over RPers
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>>186857274
A great day for a great girl
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I'm promised myself I wasn't going to cry now here I am at 2 in the morning bawling my eyes out.
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>>186857367
To be honest, Labrysfag is probably the least annoying of the discordfags.
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>>186857367
They absolutely are.
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>>186857361
Morgana a shit. Death to Morgana
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>>186857216
No idea but I can bet the first one is something about cuteness. My ESP senses tell me that...! Just kidding.
I wonder how Mona would react to Nekomata.
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>>186857423
Now you can shitpost with us
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>>186857423
>crying at the end of P5
I'd hate to see what you'd do if you played P3.
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>>186857426
No he isn't.
>le meatbags XDXDXDXD
>let me just blog about my trip to a wedding or some shit on /pg/
>meatbags!!! XD
>did I say meatbags? XD
>ur waifu is shit
>meatbags!!! XD
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>>186857430
t. assblasted domesticsnigger
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>>186857367
>I'll take the discordfags any day over RPers
I wouldn't.
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>>186857436
he's my adorable baby boy
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>>186857517
But atleast I don't roleplay hahah!!!! Meatbag!!
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>>186857520
>picking meth posting, cuck posting, abuse posting and aids posting over avatarfagging
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>>186857517
>>186857578
Well I mean, are non-machines not bags of meat?
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>>186857645
meatbag XD
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Hey, why is chihiro unscrewing that lightbulb?
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>>186857505
Oh I cried like a baby.
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>>186857617
At least those don't derail entire threads with off topic posts like the discorders do every time they post their shitty SQUAD image.
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>>186857672
Point made for me. I'll take the annoying meatbagfag over more of this shit
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>>186857672
she's a stupid meatbag, she wasn't built so of course she's a filthy crack whore.
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>>186856827
How would Labrys react to her hair being ruffled?
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>>186857729
At least the discordfags don't trash my favorite characters and post God awful shit in EVERY fucking thread
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>>186857729
Sounds like you're just jealous cause you don't have a SQUAD of friends. Fag harder, maybe we will invite you.
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>>186857797
Your favorite character is just a disgusting meatbag anyway. She deserves all the shit she gets.
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>>186857797
If you pay attention to their grammar and sentence structure you'd know that's wrong. And one of them has admitted to joining in on the shitposting before it got out of hand.
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>>186857815
I'm in the squad and I don't consider any of you my friends.
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>>186857834
If you are going to falseflag at least don't be so obvious anon, this is just sad
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>>186857783
That's probably one of her favorite things. After all, she has that nice luxurious ponytail.
>>186857761
>>186857834
Kek. Keep it up. I'm laughing my ass off.
>>186857815
Who are you tho?
>>186857912
You too.
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>>186857912
t. stupid meatbag
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>>186857884
t.domesticcuck
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>>186857876
>implying you can recognize an individual anon with such things on 4chan
Lurk moar
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>>186857932
seething
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>>186857932
>You too.
I am anonymous Makotofag #65
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>>186858089
But that's me
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>>186858136
No you're 67
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>>186858089
>>186858136
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpzbr3vCBjw
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Alright. At 12/3 in P4G. Right about to hit the climax of the game. I think I'm done for the night. Catch you guys later and maybe I'll finish the game tomorrow.
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>>186858170
Good night!
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>>186858170
Goodnight cumbot
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>>186858170
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Oi.
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>its that time for /pg/ again
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What does your game backlog look like /pg/?
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>>186858735
Lots of RPGs
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>>186858735
I don't really have anything.
I usually just play one game for a very long time before buying a new one.
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>>186858735
All the classic Valve FPS, that's about it.
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>>186858735
Too much of everything.
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Who do you think will get an Arcana in the P5 remake?
Aegis added Aeon, and Adachi added Hunger, who will get one next?
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>>186858735
I don't even know where to start. I have a big problem of getting like 80% through a game and then just never touching it again.
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>>186858735
Haru is cute!
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>>186858735
I want to finish the kingdom hearts games I haven't played before 3 comes out. So that would be bbs, and part of 358/2 days. I got to the final boss in re:com but haven't touched it in a while. I literally haven't played the first game in over 10 years so I think I might replay it too.
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>>186859165
If you never played the Final Mixes of 1 and 2 I recommend that you play them. Especially 2 on critical mode
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>>186859224
Yeah I'm planning on buying the bundle collection on the ps4.
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>>186859045
Lavenza
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>>186859804
WAKE UP NEET
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>>186858735
>Start fucking around in Rollercoaster Tycoon 2
>100% Orange Juice
>Tons of other shit I have on my Steam
>>
Chidori is _hot__!
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If you could choose to be one non wildcard character, who would you choose from each game?
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>>186860164
I'd be Sho, except I wouldn't fail and i'd take down Narukami and Joker afterwards.
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>>186860164
P1: Kei
P2IS: Jun
P2EP: Kei again
P3FES: Tanaka
P4G: Tanaka
P5G: Tanaka
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>>186860164
Igor
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>>186858735
Fore now:
Nier automata
Tales of Berseria
Gravity Rush
The Last Guardian
Yakuza 0
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Shiho deserves better
Shiho will always be number one in my eyes!
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>>186854354
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>>186860913
she'd be proud anon
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>>186860913
she'd be disappointed in you anon
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>>186860913
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>>186854457
Fuck you for making me picture Goro in golden wind!
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>>186861462
>>186861327
Would she even be able to see the drawing? She's pretty old.
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>>186861564
She'd use a little magnet shaped like an A+ to put it on the fridge and call it good anyway.
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>>186861612
I'm sure she will take it along to her bingo game and show all her friends what a taleneted young boy her grandson is!
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>>186858735
Got all the sea shanties in Asscreed Black Flag and kinda lost interest.
Got around ten hours into Nioh before getting distracted by something else (i think the DS 2 DLC). Love the gameplay, but the story/lore doesn't measure up to the Soul series.

Also still got the first two Witcher games lying around.

Also Darkest Dungeon.
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>>186861462
>Kawakami so superior she can afford a much higher level of disappointment than other waifus.
Go figure.
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Do P1 and P2 have good translations?
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>>186860913
That's one kawacutie
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>>186861740
>Kawakucks
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Murder Goro with affection and headpats !!
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>>186862072
Not on my watch!
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>On third playthrough of game
>Only just realised that Takemi's medicine is named after her
>Takemedic
Jesus Christ I'm retarded
Also Goho-M is "Go Home" but you knew that, right?
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>>186862072
Cute! Is he a tsundere?
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why does everybody shit on my boy
i just want him to be happy
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>>186862183
>Also Goho-M is "Go Home" but you knew that, right?
Well, duh!
Only took me one polaythrough too.
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>>186862224
>Nishima
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>>186862235
Goho-M is more obvious if you do Futaba's Confidant
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>>186862254
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>>186862224
>>186862224
Honestly, why is futaba so rude? She shits on everyone, she's gonna get her shit slapped when she starts school.
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>>186862068
Reminder that Ann is for being bros with and/or Ryuji.
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>>186862352
NEETs lack basic social skills.
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>>186862352
Futaba's like that with everyone and she didn't quite get a chance to develop a word to mouth filter as she was bullied simply for being smart while normal people learn that being polite gets results.
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>>186862307
Well I'm kinda dense when it comes to things like that.
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>>186862216
Most of the time, yes!
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>>186862412
She cured her 'anxiety' pretty quickly huh
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>>186862072
pls don't bully the groo
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>>186862352
Mishima is for bullying
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>>186862493
Yeah, I hear he's a real zero.
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>>186862461
Goro is a dog, not a bird!
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>>186862465
it's like she had a change of heart or something haha
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>>186862596
>What is her entire confidant
Haha indeed, maybe she was just acting for sympathy.
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>>186862461
One can only imagine what Goro was thinking when Morgana said he liked Joker even though he's said plenty of times that he likes Joker:

Goro: I like him and want to be friends with him.
Goro: At the same time I also shot him like he was someone I disliked, and he has everything I don't. [...]
Goro: I-I don't like him, you stupid cat!
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> Joker has friends and family, and he can sell them out anyway so he can continue playing hero for Yaldy

You know, one of my bad end predictions was that you'd submit to a higher power but it's really creepy in this game that Joker knows exactly what he's going to do and can do so anyway.
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>>186861986
P1 has the best translation.
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>>186862662
Goro hates being wrong, it's why he was so happy to kill Joker. Also holy shit his concept metaverse outfit was so much better.
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Buying lolikoto a puppy :D !
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>Goro cucks Joker for Mona
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>>186862861
One of my favorite things about him is that although a lot of what he does is to please adults it's obvious he's stupidly competitive at heart and really hates being thrown for a loop. "What do you mean it was obvious to everyone that I wanted friends, I'm not lonely and don't need you!" Sure. Wasn't Black Mask apparently kind of like a Featherman thing?
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>>186862072
Laughing at Goro for not being able to open a single packet !!
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>>186862883
Is he the kind of guy who'd like cats?
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>>186862548
>a dog, not a bird!
Better?
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>>186863158
I don't think so.

Dude should have gotten some dogs; might have prevented him from going mental.
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>>186863158
I'm a lonely person with no friends who tries very hard to please others and I like cats
Though there are a lot of nice stray cats in my neighborhood
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>>186863245
How is this relevant at all
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I want Goro to wear better clothes and something else than his dumb sweater in the winter too!
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>>186863313
i gropo
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>>186863232
> Implying Shido wouldn't hold his dogs hostage and really make him go full loco

>>186863245
It's pretty funny imagining Goro gaining Kindness points by feeding Tokyo's stray cats.
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>>186862183
>spoiler
h-haha, of course i k-knew that!
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>>186862173
*unzips a Satanael with Repell Phys*
Come at me, bro.
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How would you go about doing the SECRET BOSS without using meme Samurai?
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>>186863507
I fucking hate you
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>>186863434
>> Implying Shido wouldn't hold his dogs hostage and really make him go full loco
Shido didn't even know Goro existed until he approached him.

If he just had gotten some dogs instead, he might have gotten some positivity into his life an not become a murderer.
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Would Chad and Joker swap attendants even though their current ones love them the most?
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>>186863581
You know that said murderer told Sojiro he has to work for his rent, right? Also:

> Implying a 15-year old downtrodden kid in a game about Japan's failures at taking care of kids like him has enough money to have pets
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>>186863581
You know he become grudgeful the moment he found out his mother killed herself because of Shidou, right? The kid was broken from the get-go and he really wanted the revenge.
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>>186863686
Another thing people are also forgetting is that Shido was passively fucking up Goro's life even before he went to seek revenge. The unfortunate truth is that Japan only quite recently started to push for bastard children to be not labeled as such on the family register (Around 2013, no clue how far it's spread), and given how fucking horrible he was to Futaba it wouldn't surprise me at all if Shido made plenty sure that neither Goro nor his mom were ever going to have a happy life even if she left.
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How awkward would shipping Goro and Futaba together be, considering he's the one who killed her mom?
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>>186863686
Well, maybe his revenge could have taken another form than "I'll murder as many innocents as it takes to make the moment I murder my dad more kewl".
Maybe he could have been more of an loner atihero, who eventually joined the PT for real.
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>>186863850
She should thank goro for doing it, cause if he hadn't she would never have met the PT
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>Annfags
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>Ohyafag
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>>186863851
Maybe if you paid attention to what he was saying you'd notice he never intended to kill his dad or that generally if you're a 15-year old kid with no family to speak of your choices are really limited. And just saying, factually he couldn't have killed that many people because people are too fucking scared to blab anyway.

>>186863850
I don't know which is more awkward, that he killed her mom or that they might be half-siblings.
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>kawakucks
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>Mona turns into a car
>Yusuke duplicates skill cards for Joker
>Makoto is "smart"
>Futaba hacks stuff
>Haru has cash
What do Ryuji and Ann contribute to the team?
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Where are my Pixie doujins?
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Fashion.
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>>186864135
Positive reinforcement
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>>186864135
friendship
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>>186864135
Social Skills
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>>186864135
Friendship!
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>>186864135

Sexual relief.
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>>186864119
Oh, shut it.
We get this every other thread.
You raving on and on about how Goro is a good boy who dindu nuffin until people get sick of your shit and stop replying.

Take this as a win if you want, just stop clogging up the thread.
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>>186864336
Why would I want to be friends with a literal cuck?
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>>186864143
is that a boy groo or a girl groo
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>>186864423
Based on the hands a dude but the clothing says otherwise so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

>>186864119
Why would Wakaba fuck Shidou though
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>>186864385
Literal cucks are the best friends though!
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>>186864378
> Muh strawman

>>186864540
You're implying she went with it 100% willingly when not even Sojiro ever learned who the father was. I wouldn't be surprised either if she had actually planned to confess or expose something before she shut down.
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>>186864135
Who?
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>>186864135
Nothing
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I swear to god if there's no new information at TGS I'm going to shitpost like a fucking faggot. I need to know if my husbando is in.
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>>186850857
congrats you figured it out
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>>186864895
everybody already shitposts like a fucking faggot anyways
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>>186865020
True, but I've managed to cut down my shitposting to once or twice a month since last year. I'd hate to ruin that with an autistic shitfit.
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>>186864895
>He thinks the third most popular character might not make it.

If unpopular characters like Ann and Ryuji can make it, Yusuke is a shoo in.
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>>186864135
>Mona turns into a car
>Yusuke duplicates skill cards for Joker
>Makoto can plan
>Futaba hacks stuff
>Haru has cash
>Ryuji has muscle and spirit
>Ann can cheerlead and motivate
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>>186865225
> People think any of the PTs aren't going to make it in due to lack of popularity
Nani.
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>>186865225
Oh, that's not my husbando, it was just the most apt reaction image I had on me.
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People hate ryuji because he's the least like them. All the phantom thieves are loner weirdos with the exception of Ann, whos issue is she's "too hot" and Ryuji who had a normal life until Kamoshida fucked his shit up.
Ryuji gets shit for acting like a teenage boy, when he gets compared to a voiceless MC and autistic yusuke.
Ryuji is the ONLY one who will have your back, but hes the most "normalfag" so he is hated.
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>>186865239
>Ryuji can prep the bull
Fixed
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>>186865357
Unless your husbando is like Iwai or Tora I think you have nothing to worry about.
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Perfect.
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>>186865448
>Iwai dancing
I didn't realize how badly I wanted until now.
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>>186865378
everyone weeb hates th "normal life"
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>>186865470
Do people actually actively search for trash like this.
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>>186865448
I think it would be fun as hell if All Good Tora had a place in the sequel since obviously the Conspiracy isn't done with but yeah, that's being too optimistic.

>>186865378
Curious, how many people genuinely hate Ryuji as opposed to being indifferent or liking someone else more?
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>game basically warns me with sirens to "recall the bonds i have formed"
>Sae askes me immediately after who my friends are
>recall them just like the game said
>she leaves and I get my ass smoked
Thanks atlus
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kek
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>>186865673
Man kanji is so cool, I love that kid.
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>>186865529
Weebs hate Ann for the same reason. But casuals dont like Ann too.
They LOVE makoto and futaba because they think theyre too smart for Ann. Real men realize Ann makes more sense just like rise.
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Let's say you can choose 5 Confidants that aren't your party members to appear in the sequel. Who makes the cut and why?
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>>186865601
>recall all the people who are important to you
>immediatly rat them out

Stellar work, anon.
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>>186865880
Do you mean as playable party members that have their own personas and whatnot?
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>>186865979
Why not, for the heck of it! Keep in mind though that such a thing would mean possibly going up against the ruling party so choose wisely.
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>>186865843
Rise is actually likeable though. They're not wrong to think they're too smart for Anne either, she's literal retardation tier.
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>>186865880
Kawakami
Shinya
Tora
The Twins/Lavenza
Ohya
Mostly because I want to see where they go from the end of P5.
Kawakami because she#s best waifu.
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>>186864135
>Haru has cash
and never ues it, just like Mitsuru.
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Our forensics team traced the Phantom Thieves website to your location in a matter of minutes. Did you think you could get away without even attempting to cover your tracks? You talk big behind the title of Admin but we're in the real world now. We're several floors underground, nothing gets in or out without us knowing about it, and I might just forget that a blue haired kid disappeared when I leave.
*leans in*
Tell me the names of everyone, and I'll make sure you don't see any jail time.
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Where did all the Mitsurufags go
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The whole of Tokyo is a part of Mementos, correct? Since the PTs are also part of it although they have Personas, was them starting to stop thinking for themselves in September like how they lazily waited for targets and how they weren't too bothered about the principal dying perhaps foreshadowing of how Yaldy could have overpowered even them if they stopped thinking about the things they were doing?

>>186866171
Cool list!
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>>186865843
Except Ann isn't likeable unless you're into dumb blonde girls. She has an annoying personality to many and her problems are boderline retarded.
>Real men realize Ann makes more sense just like rise.
Only retarded men, which makes sense if you like either of those two
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Could you take her on in a fight?
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>>186866034
Sae as I think she's one of the more interesting characters and I'd like to see her more.
Iwai because I want a cowboy persona user very badly.
Tae because she would be a buff/debuff machine.
Hifumi for autistic chuuni dialogue.
Kawakami because she's my waifu.
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>>186865880
Hifumi (All rounder/Tactician)
Mishima (Navigator)
Tora (Bruiser)
Takemi (Healer)
Chihaya (Mage)
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>>186866302
These are the casuals i was talking about.
You think makoto and haru are smart? Haru has so little time on screen she doesnt even count. The confidants had more development than her.
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>>186865528
>>186865448
>Daddies Iwai, Sojiro, Madarame, Okumura and Shido dancing off ft Dojima
>Same thing for cakes Takemi, Kawakami, Chihaya, Ohya and Sae ft Mitsuru
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>>186866351
Awesome choice, Sae in my opinion too is one of the most likely Confidants to become an actual Persona user and she already knows how to fight.

>>186866353
> Tora fighting demons and negotiating with them
Fucking awesome.
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>>186866445
Why did you bring up haru and Makoto? It doesn't change the fact that Anne's confidant is literal special education tier. Her issue is trivial compared to everyone else's in the game.
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>>186866445
What the fuck are you even talking about?
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>>186866685
Yes her confidant sucks but its not canon so it doesnt matter.
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>>186866757
Annefags are dumb
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desu the smartest girl in P5 is Takemi for being a leader in medical research despite being in her 20-30s
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>>186866792
>it's not canon
>
She's also retarded in the main story too and that's canon
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>>186866851
It's futaba, not even a competition. If Tae gave her medical notes to futaba she would've memorised it within a week, no problem.
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> TFW you wish for a P5 sequel where the PTs band up with awesome adults and Goro joins the ride as one of the only people involved with the Conspiracy to actually make Japan great again

What ideas do you have?
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>>186866462
>Cake Mitsuru

I want, no, NEED this.
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>>186866445
>anyone who doesn't like my waifu is a casual
The fucking state of annefags
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>2 Kens
Huh?
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>>186866295
I became a Makotofag
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>>186867104
>Falling for falseflaggers
Kawakucks, everyone.
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>>186866685
>Her issue is trivial compared to everyone else's in the game.
it's not exactly fair to judge issues like that, there's always someone in a worse situation.
The problem with Ann's confidant is that it actually makes her look bad in general. We hear how much work Mika puts into being a model, we hear about Shiho who's trying her best despite the rehabilitation being incredibly painful. Meanwhile Anne is just the most beautiful girl around without doing anything whatsoever and only became a model because of her parents, not only that, her encounters with Mika only highlight how ignorant she is and it's something that is never fixed.
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black owned
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>>186867360
Yep, the problem with Ann's Confidant isn't that it's trivial as finding what she wants to work on is just as important to her as the rest of the PTs but that the writers apparently tried to let her have her cake and eat it too with her Confidant involving both Shiho and Mika when it should ideally have been just one person.
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>>186865378
I don't think too many westerners hated Ryuji, he gets some criticism but overall he is well loved everywhere I've seen. /pg/ likes to shitpost with him but it's only a few autists that do it in a way that's really damaging to the character.
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>>186864895
>>186865372
What's new Ryujifag
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>>186864135
Ryuji is literally the reason the Phantom Thieves formed anon. They would have abandoned the thief life if not for him pushing for it at the buffet
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>>186867929
He's also a continuous driving force even after that which is actually brilliant in hindsight as Captain Kidd was pretty much the only PT Persona who IIRC didn't do anything wrong.
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>>186868039
I'll take your word for Captain Kidd doing nothing wrong because I'm too lazy to Google that, but I agree with you about Ryuji being the driving force for much of the game. He's always the one most eager to change the world and he's always the one pushing for the group to find their next target, he's got the most passion for what they're doing and his actions, despite being tainted by his teenage hormones half way through, are always well intended.
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>>186867104
I'm actually a mika fag falseflagging as a retarded annfag, which they are
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>>186868260
If it helps, Captain Kidd claimed that he was a privateer and had saved passes that proved his innocence but these were never found before he was hung. In that sense it's easy to see why Ryuji was the most passionate about what they were doing especially as he lashed out of this same passion prior to the PTs and accomplished nothing but trouble which leads to his guilt in the Chariot Confidant.
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>you will never force Makoto to inject heroin with you
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Why was he shirtless again
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>>186868968
>you will never inject heroin directly into Makoto's eye
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>you will never find the heroine of your life
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>>186869038
Fanservice
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>>186869081
But her eyes are pretty
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>>186869081
Leave her eyes alone fuckboy
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>>186869316
I want her to nail my balls to a plank of wood while staring me down
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>>186869316
I love Makoto when she looks down on filthy shadows
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>>186869038
Shirts get in the way when you're fighting bears, Anon.
That's just common sense.
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S-sis, the boys at school have been calling me autistic again.
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>>186870603
With good reason.
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>>186869038
There will never be a boy hotter than Akihiko ever
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>>186870671
Goro Akechi.
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>>186870802
Nice joke
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>>186870671
>ever
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>>186871082
he looks like a fuckboy
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>>186871304
Not even 5 posts after someone suggested Akechi, THE BIGGEST fuckboy in the series?
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>>186871082
Jonathan > Walter
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>>186871797
t.Kawakamifag
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>>186871870
You're not wrong.
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>>186871870
>Kawakamifags
>Not Chaotic
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>>186871797
Hoy, what are you saying...!?
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>>186871550
why should i pointed that? everyone already knows that its a fact
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>>186869038
He likes the look of Mitsuru wearing his shirts.
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>>186868039
>Captain Kidd was pretty much the only PT Persona who IIRC didn't do anything wrong.
Except, you know, killing on of his crewmates, mutineering and starting a life of piracy.

The only Persona that didn't really do anything wrong would be Johanna.
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>>186872795
So, was he actually a pirate or not? The point I'm making here is that he was apparently hung based on something he didn't do.

> The only Persona that didn't really do anything wrong would be Johanna.
But she's fictional so that kind of doesn't count, though it's noteworthy that both of Makoto's Personas did something that was not seen as something a woman should do.
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>Reason for selecting the main party’s awakened persona:

>Premise of the whole story
>As for the personas’ awakening, the shared concept was to evolve from “thieves from stories” to “tricksters from myths”. Additionally, there was an intention to use names of famous gods that everyone would be able to recognize. Therefore, instead of coming up with gods that are an extension of the initial personas, they listed names of gods when thinking about “tricksters from famous myths” and then assign them to the characters of the game.

>The first 5 gods that were brought up were Seiten Taisei / Kamu Susano-o / Mercurius / Loki / Prometheus. They tried to match the genders of the characters and their personas when possible (except in some cases like Futaba with Prometheus) and besides the protagonists, they assigned 4 of the personas to the male cast first and then the last one with a female.
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>Reason for selecting Satanel:

>The first reason is Satanel’s story symbolically coincides with the hero’s situation. Additionally, they chose him because of the word “satan”. The reason for this is because of the association and the meaning of the word. Although, at the time they were designing him, they wanted him to be called Lucifer or Lucifel but those are already in the game as a popular persona so they had to reconsider it to Satanel.
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>>186873280
>Lucifer
Joker actually Star Arcana?
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>>186873280
> In the second Book of Enoch, Satanael is mentioned as a leader of the fallen angels that rebelled against YHVH, by refusing to bow to the human Enoch, leading to his imprisonment. Due to his name and role, he is considered an interpretation of Lucifer.

> In some Gnostic traditions, Satanael is said to be an angel that once served the Demiurge. He rebelled when he realized that the Demiurge was not the true God and granted humanity the knowledge to liberate themselves from the Demiurge.

>>186873398
Characters aren't actually an Arcana but yeah, Joker may well be representative of the Star archetype.
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>>186873103
William Kid was originally a Privateer, then a captain in the British Navy and eventually went full pirate after killing one of his crewman in an argument. Granted there is a bit speculation surrounding the whole thing, but he definitely did attack and plunder ships we wasn't supposd to and sold the loot off to fill his own pockets.
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>>186873398
P5 is the Star Arcana game, it's not unbelievable
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>>186873618
Ah, thanks for the correction!
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>>186873398
Hifumi confirmed canon.
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>>186871082
As much as I like Walter, man was he wrong
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>>186873720
>P3 is the Death Arcana game
>Ryoji isn't playable
>P4 is the Temperance Arcana game
>Eri isn't playable
>P5 is the Star Arcana game
>Hifumi isn't playable
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>>186873280
> but those are already in the game as a popular persona so they had to reconsider it to Satanel.
seriously, that's it? We had 3 characters with Susanoo as their Persona but Lucifer being popular was enough to make them to switch to Satanael instead?
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>>186873720
Does this mean Goro is the opposite of hope?
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>>186873893
I think they change it to Satanael because it fits to Gnostic myth together with Demiurge, which a recurring theme in SMT.
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>>186873879
wasn't P4 Sun?
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>>186874017
nah, it actually goes in order
P3 was Death
P4 Temperance
Catherine Devil and Tower
P5 Star
Hashino also said that the next project will be Moon, so that's PRF
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>>186873750
She's canon in my heart
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>>186874015
This is most likely correct. I'm almost starting to wonder if a Sophia might be involved in crashing Yaldy's party for that reason.

>>186874017
Nope, it was mentioned before that P3 was Death, P4 Temperance and P5 Star.

>>186874147
> TFW the next project is a massive mindscrew with illusions everywhere
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>>186873750
She is canon with Goro
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>>186874147
>Moon
Is it finally my time to shine?
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>>186874150
Here's the final version
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>>186874212
>I'm almost starting to wonder if a Sophia might be involved in crashing Yaldy's party for that reason.

Don't forget Abraxas. This entity is told to be stronger than both Yaldabaoth and Satanael in Gnostic myth.
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>>186873981
Goro is the Fool's journey gone wrong.

If I had to assign him an Arcana, it'd would probably the Devil (inability to break free from chains/self imposed bondage) or the Swords, if we are including the minor Arcana.

But then again, Japan apparently has different interpretations of some cards.
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Post your Persona 5 OC!
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>>186874339
I would just leave him as Justice but flip that shit upside down
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>>186874447
Hmm, good call.
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>>186874317
Interesting, I'd have to give that a read!

>>186874339
There's definitely telling signs that so much is wrong with Goro and my current guess as to what happened is he got trapped at Justice so something big is going to have to happen before he can continue on his own Fool's Journey.
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>>186874291
Hifumi is too beautiful
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Anyone else think that they used a little too much "le hacker futaba" fuckery in the Batman's gambit? Would have been cooler if each person had a bit more of a role to play in it
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>>186875230
She really is, I absolutely adore her design. Definitely going to play again to romance her.
>>186867745
Bit late but I'm a p3fag, sorry anon.
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>>186875357
I don't.
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>>186875357
How else would they contribute though? Futaba was the only one who could make that app, some of the PTs scouted the room in the Metaverse and that was about all they could do.
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>>186875357
Maybe, but including everyone for the sake of including everyone would have felt forced.
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>>186875357
Futaba is a silly character, yes. It would be nice if the gambit did include the whole team, but then it would have to be completely different. That's fine, obviously.
It would have been like in Sly 3 where everyone did their bit, showing they're a good team and can work together and shit.
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>>186875751
Shido's Palace was a much better one in which the cast got a chance to shine.
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>>186875752
Yeah sly 3 was what I was thinking of when I posted. But yeah they would have to change the whole thing. It would have felt more meaningful to me then "you do it futaba, we will sit around and eat curry and drink coffee"
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>>186875357
they should have let everybody plan instead of just Makoto desu
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is having a gf as good as persona makes it out to be?

even the dates with Ai lookd great
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>>186875998
That was a very tense moment and the only two with specialized skills/info useful there were Futaba and Makoto.
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>>186876075
Only if your gf is 2D
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>>186876075
>is having a gf as good as persona makes it out to be?
Depends entirely on the people involved, anon.
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>>186875925
Yeah, this is why I dislike Futaba as a character. They just made her op. They set her up to be able to do anything if it a computer can influence it. And that's literally everything.
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>>186876259
Uh well, you should keep in mind that they pretty much needed someone that OP to go up against a country-wide conspiracy. I don't necessarily like it but it was pretty much something that had to happen.
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>>186866272
mishima would never snitch on the phantom thieves, makoto would though. It would have been cooler if makoto was the traitor trying to protect her sister.
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>>186876435
They could have easily done it through the metaverse alone. Do what a lot of games do, where you beat one boss and they hint or give you just enough information to find the next boss. Then the next, and so on until you hit the big bad. Or do a Bayonetta where they all refer to the big boss from the start.
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Could the Investigation Team stop the Phantom Thieves if they were on opposing sides?
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>>186876580
no
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>>186876546
they did do that tho
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>>186876580
Probably not.
Naoto could probably figure out some of their identities and force them into hiding, but I feel the PT are a lot more competent and less bumbling than the IT when it comes to getting stuff done.
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>>186876546
These are people who know who you're targeting, and the PTs in fact fell for the Conspiracy's trap hook, line and sinker was exactly due to their assumption they were invincible (Remember when Goro goofed back in June and he could be dangerous but this gets ignored until months later? Amazing ruse there, we're just lucky he wasn't ordered to murder them from the get go).
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>>186876075
>even the dates with Ai lookd great
what do you mean "even"? Ai is fucking great no matter what

and no, Persona only shows the fun and nice parts
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Stop sexualizing Futaba.
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>>186876731
>>186876769
What I mean is that the writers could easily have allowed the PT to get all the information they needed through the metaverse. Make the shadows loose-lipped and just spill everything about the next boss or some shit. They didn't NEED to have Futaba be op.
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>>186876908
Never.
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>>186876908
Go finish those modifiers for wiping your ass with moss.
He's not wrong though; Inkling is not for lewd.
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>>186876768
>Naoto could probably figure out some of their identities
PTs are shit when it comes to hiding their identities and just following one of them would be enough to find the rest.
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I am the phantom thief
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>>186876925
Madarame, Kaneshiro and Okumura talk about Goro.
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>>186877014
Still wouldn't be able to capitalize on that though.
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>>186876925
How? In case you didn't realize yet, anyone important enough to have dirt is under close supervision and they get shanked before they can ever spill.

"Hey, we can get information on this very big thing from Haru's dad! It won't backfire on us or anything!" That's exactly why this doesn't work, the Conspiracy might be mustache-twirling monsters but they're way more experienced and cruel than kids.

>>186877014
Yep. Adachi was hard to find precisely as he wasn't showing himself and had Namatame as the fall guy, the PT's inexperience really shows in how they didn't even catch on that Goro was totally Black Mask at all even though all the Palace Rulers that spilled on him literally indicate there's just the one guy lurking around.
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People say Adachi was right, but what about persona 5?

who is there to be right? Akechi didn't make any kind of social commentary he just wanted to kill Shido. maybe shinya's mom was right.
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>>186877609
Tora was right
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>>186877203
I mean give you enough information to do stuff, and I was referring to Shido.
>>186877383
That's why I suggested that they give you info on the next boss and that the shadows are very loose with what they say. Make the shadows literally keep no secrets. Make each shadow tell you about the next lackey or something. It would work. Obviously in the game as it is it wouldn't work, but I'm suggesting that the writers could have CHANGED it so that it wasn't "o gee team what do we do now? Oh Futaba just computer'd her way to the next part."
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>>186874147
But Tacchan is Sun and Piercy is Emperor
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best girl
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>>186858735
Brave frontier, brave frontier, and more brave frontier.

I got Sonic Mania, Odin Sphere, DR 1.2 Reloaded and 1 more game for my PS4 yesterday, tho.
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>>186877648
Why would the Shadows be loose with what they say? You're basically asking for an entirely different game and in the first place P5 is ultimately also about tackling issues in real life.

>>186877609
Goro's entire character is commentary on how much Japan has failed its children though. That's exactly why he resonates so much with the Japanese, being a child who had so much to offer but who was ultimately trampled into the ground for reasons that weren't even his fault until he had nothing left but revenge.
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>>186877609
He didn't make the commentary, he was the commentary
Similarly with Shido, he was that governor that P5 was inspired by except on the opposite end of the spectrum
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>>186877609
Yaldy
though all gods so far were right and the main characters were cunts that want humanity to suffer so eh
>>186877685
they were also from games directed by a different guy
And it seems like basing games around arcanas moved on with Hashino, so P6 won't be Sun anyway
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>>186878206
>That's exactly why he resonates so much with the Japanese,
the only people he resonates with are fujos who want to see him being fucked by Joker or Shido
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>>186878206
>Why would the Shadows be loose with what they say? You're basically asking for an entirely different game and in the first place P5 is ultimately also about tackling issues in real life.
The shadows are meant to be the true self. Why wouldn't they just talk shit as much as physically possible? In fact, they do talk as much shit as physically possible. When the shadow gets beaten, they feel sorry and decide they'll repent right? So at that point before the disappear they can just say "o btw go look for a guy called Kaneshiro in this area". Maybe even give them a hint on how to find them as well.
I don't know what "tackling issues in real life" has to do with this. You're saying that they aren't allowed to get info in the metaverse, when they do that anyway? They use the metaverse to solve their problems. In addition, hacker-chan is not really a realistic method of dealing with problems. The game would scarcely be different.
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this guy slaps joker and yu

what do
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>>186878589
*repel phys*
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>>186878206
>hat's exactly why he resonates so much with the Japanese
He "resonates with the Japanese" because he's an attractive bad guy who is just vulnerable and pathetic enough that idiotic teenage girls think they could fix him with their loving care and attention, same as with every other fucking character of this kind.

Goro had it shitty, but in the end he chose his own path and is responsible for his own actions.

t. someone who spent three years writing Draco Malfoy fanfiction.
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>>186878589
They assume it must have been the wind and continue doing whatever they were doing
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>>186874441
Fuck it

>Name: Shigetoshi Suzuki (鈴木 重智)
>Alias : Magokichi Saika (雑賀 孫吉)
>Arcana: [Unknown]
>Age : 18
>Codename: Raven
>Initial Persona: Freischütz
>Ultimate Persona: Kutkh
>Melee Weapon: Chain-Sickle
>Ranged Weapon: Sniper Rifle
>Mask: Black Raven Mask
>Trickster Costume: Black War Overcoat with raven motif
>Glove color: Dark Grey
>Persona's main abilities: Zan (Blast) skills
>Occupation : Highschool Student, Antique Gunsmith, Leader of Yatagarasu Underground Renegades
>Japanese VA : Kouji Yusa
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No Good Tora
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Post yfw Life Will Change
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>>186878689
>>Codename: Raven
>>Initial Persona: Freischütz
>>Ultimate Persona: Kutkh
>>Melee Weapon: Chain-Sickle
>>Ranged Weapon: Sniper Rifle
>>Mask: Black Raven Mask
>>Trickster Costume: Black War Overcoat with raven motif
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>>186878885
burn my dread is better
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>>186878589
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>>186878885
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>>186878885
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>>186878885
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>>186878885
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>>186878581
Did you not see the Conspiracy talking about their plan to control Japan through the Metaverse? My point is that they do know the PTs are there, personal Shadows that can spill info will not do so unless given a reason to do so, and you probably didn't get the point of Okumura's Palace if you think this was workable in the long run as the entire point was "Silly kids and their cat don't understand why the Witness Protection Program exists and why you don't make someone talk unless you're sure they won't bite it".

>>186878661
Draco was a rich kid with loving parents who got trapped in a bad situation but he was an asshat well before that, so excuse me if I think you're trying to take me for a ride.
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>>186878661
this
It was like that with Adachi but at least he raised some good points. Akechi was designed to make girls feel bad for him and that's it.
t. someone who has seen that shit too many times in many series
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>>186879183
>It was like that with Adachi but at least he raised some good points.
I don't think "Bitches be nothin' but hos and tricks" is a good point, but at least Adachi wasn't pretending to act for some higher cause.
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>>186879152
>personal Shadows that can spill info will not do so unless given a reason to do so
I just said why. When you beat the shadows they feel all bad and say they'll redeem themselves. Why can't they give you information? Do you think it's because they're aware of the consequences in the real world? Shadows don't act considering consequences. They do what they want at that moment.
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>>186879406
He had a valid view when he said the world is shit and nothing really matters so fuck it.
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>>186878943
The real life person of this OC inspired of, Saika Magoichi, is pretty much associated with Raven theme, especially the Yatagarasu. He also a pretty good marksman that continue to defy powerful military warlord like Nobunaga and Toyotomi.
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>>186879490
Uh yes, they do? And again, P5 has a lot to do with the rigged law system and politics so using the fantasy Metaverse to solve everything would be completely defeating the purpose.
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>>186879596
>he said the world is shit and nothing really matters so fuck it.
That's really not a good point though.
There world is whatever you make of it.
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>>186879406
People joke about bitches and whores but forget that he was abandones by parents as well and wasn't succesfull at work because he became antisocial in result
I can relate to this, but akechi just was plain stupid
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>>186879662
>P5 has a lot to do with the rigged law system and politics so using the fantasy Metaverse to solve everything would be completely defeating the purpose
Using the metaverse, which is the tool given to them to fix shit and find the truth behind everything, would defeat the purpose of the game? But saying "Futaba hacked everything" does not?
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>>186879630
Then maybe try to play up that aspect and de-Hot Topic the design a bit.
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>>186879781
I said valid. And it is valid. It's a thing called opinions, just like how what you said is an opinion.
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>>186879813
Because objectively Futaba didn't hack everything and even the major ruse was a combination of both her tech skills and the Metaverse.
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>>186880014
>in the metaverse
>can't get past a roadblock
>dw futaba fixes it
>ruse
>how did you trick ace defective?
>dw futaba did it
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you all should really be thanking Makoto for the ruse because if she didn't realize at the last minute that cognitive groo could be an issue it wouldn't have worked
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Could Futaba out navigate best navigator Fuuka?
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>>186880176
but /pg/ said that makoto did everything
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>>186880332
GASP
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>>186880326
And Haru for tying him up in some bondage knots.
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>>186880336
>/pg/ is retarded
Yes anon we know
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>>186880336
No here's how it goes.
Futaba did everything.
Makoto """planned""" everything. Except she didn't. The characters just said "oh Makoto came up with this" even though you literally see Morgana, Futaba and Joker discussing what to do in the flashback.
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>>186879791
> Shido crushes Joker and Futaba for basically being in his way and reduces the latter into a suicidal mess with just one note, but obviously it was okay for Goro to die for what he did when Shido's Shadow made it clear how much he used the kid

>>186880176
Please realize you'll need Futaba no matter what because in the end people like the Conspiracy were untouchable precisely as you couldn't even locate them, much less get to their Shadows.
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>>186880332
One can scan weaknesses and one can't
Fuuka is pretty much THE oracle as she can see where everything is
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>>186880546
>you couldn't even locate them
And I explained how you could write a way to locate them.
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>>186880710
fuck off with your degeneracy /smtg/
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>>186880673
So you want to replace one writing issue for another? P5 flat out doesn't work if you're using the Metaverse to solve everything which is kind of why you also end up destroying it, and by locating them I mean their names since you'd have to summon their Shadows and Shido/the SIU Director you never actually talk to was most likely the only ones high up enough to know these people.

In other words, if you found their names you'd still have to have found them by Futaba as no one else has the skills needed.
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>>186880881
I hope you're only baiting, because I don't want to think we still have stupid Goro sympathisers.
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wheres my persona trap character, /pg/?

does liking trap gay?
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>>186881046
Naoto
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>>186881191
reverse trap doesn't count
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>>186881013
Take a look at which post you replied to and consider that perhaps I don't care.
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>>186859804
I am jealous she can fall asleep that easily.
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Did the Phantom Thieves change Sae's heart or did she fix herself like Mishima?
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What the fuck
http://phansite.wikia.com/wiki/Phansite_Wiki
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>>186880546
>he used the kid
Sure, goro didn't knew that murder is bad
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>>186881765
Why. The actual site's been dead for a while.
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>>186881729
Re-play the game, senpai.
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>>186880336
When has /pg/ ever said that
>>186880502
People give that scene all sorts of shit, but they were supposed to be referring to the cognitive Goro part, not the entire plan
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>>186881729
She fixed herself, I think this was possible though as while her primary stress was both from losing her dad and how her job was a real bitch her Palace seems to be escalating largely due to frustration regarding the Phantom Thieves, hence once she found out they were on the same page as her she was largely able to hold her cool.

>>186881887
If he was objectively an evil person he'd have slayed a lot more people than just the ones Shido made him kill and he wouldn't be telling Joker he wished things were such that he could be met and have been friends with him before he had to do drastic things.
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Shadow Naoto
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I dunno what this general state gonna be when Goro appear again in the spinoff.

Whatever happens, the conflagration in this general will be a worthy sight to watch.
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>>186881046
Teddie
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>>186882180
>People give that scene all sorts of shit
Every game has that one scene that proves /pg/ doesn't understand shit.

>>186882446
>I dunno what this general state gonna be when Goro appear again in the spinoff.
The same state it's in now. Constant falseflagging and shitposting and general stupidity. Just with new material.
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>>186882446
It's inevitable and I think most people anticipate it.

The real shitstorm will be the fallout for whoever wins the Jokerbowl in the anime.
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>>186882640
It's going to be either Groo or Makoto. Which one will cause the bigger shitstorm?
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>>186882784
All of my moneys on Makoto.
So i hope Groo wins, if someone has to.
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>>186881290
If you're the same guy replying in chain, you also defending Goro when replying to other posts.
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>>186882640
>>186882842
My money is on a complete platonic route with all girls, with the Sakura's acting as a family for all of the date events like Christmas and Valentines
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>>186882640
Joker will go for the harem route making Ryuji the winner by default
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>>186882640
>The real shitstorm will be the fallout for whoever wins the Jokerbowl in the anime.
No one. Everyone gets teasing. Then nothing. Like P4A.
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>>186882428
I am interested in this concept. What benefits does it have over vanilla Naoto?
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>>186882640
inb4 Sae wins
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>>186883203
They're separate beings so you can have both at once while still being faithful.
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>>186883117
I don't want to see Futaba eating more screen time than she deserves, though.
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>>186882640
Haru and Futaba since they get the default events.
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>>186855082
I don't know if you're still here, but Futaba is in Shinjuku but manages to get herself into an alleyway. Instead of turning around she keeps walking down the alley and eventually sees two figures up ahead. To her surprise they belong to Joker and Akechi. Sex ensues and they don't notice her hiding in he shadows, watching them.
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>>186883518
She deserves the most as she's my waifu and i'm super important.
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>>186883679
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
No.
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>>186883518
She deserves a lot though
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>>186883734
>>186883728
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>>186883764
I disagree.
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>>186882531
>Every game has that one scene that proves /pg/ doesn't understand shit.
What exactly are you referring to? The part where people don't understand after the exposition dump? Or the fact that people dislike it?
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>>186883840
Good for you. Still doesn't change the fact that you're wrong.
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>>186883921
The part where people still don't understand shit.
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>>186883951
But you're both wrong AND stupid.
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>>186883951
no you are wrong
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>>186884095
>>186884103
>No u
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>>186882180
>but they were supposed to be referring to the cognitive Goro part
That's still dumb because it's still "oh makoto came up with this part" where we don't see any of it, nor do we have any need to hear them say Makoto did it. They could just explain the plan and what people actually did. But no, the writers are such hacks that they can't show Makoto as being smart unless they specifically credit her with "oh she thought of this part"
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>>186884219
>nor do we have any need to hear them say Makoto did it.
I do love how much this apparently pisses people off for no reason.
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>>186884303
It doesn't piss me off. It's just bad writing. "Show don't tell". That whole scene was just tell.
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>>186884219
>nor do we have any need to hear them say Makoto did it
>They could just explain the plan and what people actually did
I'm getting mixed singals here
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>>186884454
How do you show in this case when the point is the audience isn't supposed to know the plan in advance?
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>>186884552
I dunno
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>>186884593
Me neither. So what I'm really getting from this is /pg/ doesn't actually know how to write and instead are completely enveloped in treating scenes like some sort of competitive game, divvying up points on whose favorite character did how many things., and ultimately misses the point that the entire thing was a group effort.
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Aside from Kindness, are there any other stats that have to be maxed all the way for social links? I have Kindness maxed and all other stats at 4.
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>>186884510
Explain AND show.
>>186884552
Perhaps a decent flashback could be good. But here's the thing: even if you have a nice idea, if you can't do it well then you shouldn't do it at all. Do you really think a wall of exposition is good writing?
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>>186884926
All stats are needed to max at least one link. Courage is the weird one because the 4 and 5 level checks are both for the same guy, Iwai.
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>>186884926
Proficiency and Charm. I'm not sure about Guts and Knowledge though
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Haru?
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are they using kanekos demon design for p6?
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>>186884926
Proficiency for Haru
Guts for Iwai
Knowledge for Hifumi
Charm for Makoto's dumb friend
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>>186884926
You need everything maxed.
Guts for Iwai
Knowledge for Hifumi
Charm for Makoto
Proficency for Haru
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>>186885009
Except they DID do the idea well. The whole plan was fucking great. The optional wall of dialogue is just for those interested in the nitty gritty finer details for players who otherwise would go "But why didn't Joker just fly on the Eagles into Goro's Palace?"
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>>186885068
Fatty fat fat fat!
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>>186882531
No, the scene with Joker, Morgana, and Futaba was about hacking Goro's phone. That wasn't about the main ruse using the palace.
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>>186884729
>you can't criticise unless you're a writer
You're probably new, right? You do realise that shitting on characters you dislike and finding as much shit your favourite did is the essence of any anime or video game board.
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>>186885185
Wrong! Haru is slender and beautiful!
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>>186885068
Haru!
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>>186885321
I disagree
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>>186885224
I'm not new, but I'm getting so tired of the same crap that it's making me come back less and less. You don't have to be a writer to make good criticisms, but these aren't.
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>>186885379
No one asked you!
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>>186885179
I don't mean the optional part. The basic exposition. The part that you need to know to understand what happened. It's not good story telling to just give a fucking wall of text to the reader.
Can you tell me how they did it well? What part of it did you like?
I mean, the only reason they HAD to do this was so they could have a short bit where Joker gets shot and they could have the dramatic bit where "O YOU THINK HE'S DEAD BUT HE'S NOT RLY AHA GOT YA". It's rather cheap. It's just to make you potentially think you got a bad end if you weren't confident about your dialogue choices only to take 5 or 10 minutes to explain why it makes sense. For me, that quick twist was not worth 5 or 10 minutes.
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>>186885490
I asked him. But I disagreed with his answer.
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>>186885490
No one asked you either, bitch!
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Feed Haru Big Bang Burgers !!
Watch her grow a double chin !!
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>>186885381
What criticisms?
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>>186885549
Because it seemed like the game was setting up the obvious twist that Goro was the bad guy all along, but twists that around and makes the actual twist into the fact that not only was Goro the villain but the cast was both aware of it and actively fighting him the whole time. And it changed the nature of the interrogation that we had been experiencing the whole game.

It also helps that all the facts needed to set it up were established long before the ruse, like Sae's Palace looking the same outside the casino, how cognitive copies work, etc.
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>>186885950
Yeah I realised that after I posted. The plan does exist for more than just Joker getting killed but not really, it was good to have the whole setting you're introduced to be completely different than what you assumed. I still believe that the wall of text isn't good though, even if it may have been necessary.
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>>186885709
Well, the one that started this conversation was people going on about how mentioning Makoto was the one who thought to tie up cognitive Goro was just more Makoto pandering which is one of those things that make me wonder if people played the same game as me.
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>>186882180
> but they were supposed to be referring to the cognitive Goro part

No, that was a last minute idea brought up from the night before. The dialogue during the scene where Morgana and Yusuke talk about Makoto's role was about bringing the suggestion of using the palace to fake Joker's death. She literally preempts her suggestion in the prior scene by saying something along the lines of: "Hey guys, listen carefully, I have a plan." You even have dialogue choices to decide whether it was a good idea or a reckless one (since his/Joker's life was son the line); this makes absolutely no sense if it was about just taking out cognitive Goro, since that only reduces the risk and was a potential hole in the plan.
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>>186886097
Well, it wasn't really necessary, only if you're interested in the tiny details of how it was set up, and you can stop it at any time.

With that said, EVERYTHING in Persona is long winded. This series does not say anything in three paragraphs which could not be said with a novel. Which I don't usually mind in most cases but I can see how it may annoy someone.
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>>186886119
I don't think anyone in this thread said it was Makoto pandering. But it is a valid criticism to say it's bad writing to just say "o makoto did it"
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Are we all in agreement that makotofags and anti-makotofags are the niggers of /pg/
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What did I walk into?
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>>186886329
In this case I don't see how. It was one character realizing "Oh shit, we have one problem we didn't think about" and taking steps to stop it before it could wreck the plan. It was ultimately a small detail they iron out
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>>186886250
Well usually, the large amounts of text are the characters interacting and progressing the story. That's fine, because it can be entertaining to see them interact and think things through. However, the scene to me did not come off as the characters progressing the story or interacting, it felt like the writers telling you what happened. Anyone who spoke was just arbitrarily assigned to speak. Anyone could have said any part in that scene, really, and it wouldn't change. Except for other characters praised Makoto. And again, I'm not talking about the optional part. Saying "oh but you can skip this text" doesn't make it less bad.
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>>186886403
I don't agree with anything. I won't even agree to disagree.
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>>186886462
But don't you see that the writers could have just said that tying up cognitive goro was a part of the plan all along? Why did they have to say "oh but we didn't realise this until Makoto realised herself at the last second"? It doesn't add anything other than an awkward "btw Makoto smart you guys".
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>>186886536
If we're not talking about Futaba's detailed explanation then which part exactly is so bad?

>>186886646
I mean, they could have. It makes no difference other than showing that even they hadn't thought of everything right away. I literally don't see the problem with it.
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>>186886403
the only nigger here is (you)
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Does /pg/ ever tire of talking about her?
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>>186886453
Kawakamifags have been confirmed the superior artists:
>>186854354

Some new translated tidbits.
>>186873152
>>186873280

Apart from that, nothing out of the ordinary, just the usual shitposting and Goro apologists.
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>>186886730
I just said what I thought was wrong with it. It's a wall of text that isn't the characters interacting but the writers explaining everything to you in one shot.
>It makes no difference if they did or did not do this
That's pretty much the point. It's lazy writing because they can't think of a better way to show Makoto being ""smart"" other than just giving her credit for random things. It has to follow that a character does something because that character would do it. But when you ever see someone say something and think to yourself "hey any character could have done that and I wouldn't bat an eyelash" you have a problem.
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>>186887069
>and think to yourself "hey any character could have done that and I wouldn't bat an eyelash" you have a problem.
Except I would bat an eyelash if Ryuji, Ann or Yusuke thought of that.
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>>186887184
But they were fully capable of explaining parts of the ruse.
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>>186887670
Explaining something after the fact is way easier than coming up with something in the first place.
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>>186887670
Morgana saying he didn't get the plan/suggestion at first probably eliminates half the PT from getting it before it happened.
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>>186887779
But the writers have made Ann and Ryuji literally retarded just so that Makoto is smart when she says anything.
>>186887879
He was just referring to Makoto's bit about Goro's cognitive version. Which is silly for anyone to not undestand, because anyone should be able to realise another Goro is a problem.
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>>186888003
>He was just referring to Makoto's bit about Goro's cognitive version. Which is silly for anyone to not undestand, because anyone should be able to realise another Goro is a problem.
>>186886192
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ok I'm legitimately confused now
is show don't tell just an ESL construct
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>>186888301
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Show,_don%27t_tell
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>>186879137
kek
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>>186888003
>But the writers have made Ann and Ryuji literally retarded just so that Makoto is smart when she says anything.
The writers made Ann and Ryuji retarded because they're retarded. They're the down-to-earth companions from every game who are good matured but dumb. This isn't some Atlus conspiracy. They were always dumb. Just like Junpei and Chie weren't dumb just to make Mitsuru/Fuuka/Naoto/Yukiko look smart
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is there a p4g zip with ALLthe ripped music? i downloaded the ost in the op and it literally had like 13 songs wtf i want the real deal
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>>186888301
Are you an ESL? Because it's a pretty common saying.
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>>186888228
Oh right, my mistake. But then still, it is just a matter of "Makoto did this". You see Morgana do stuff. You see Futaba do stuff. You READ Makoto did stuff.
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>>186888301
No, but it's something we can't do without in the summer blockbuster age.
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>>186888487
Except Ann and Ryuji were able to see obvious things until Makoto showed up. It is a matter of making other characters seem smart only by comparison.
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>>186888757
But they were always fucking retards. I think you may have a weird idea of what "common sense" is which in general is a completely bullshit term anyway and no one should ever use it.
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Short shorts
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>>186888846
Oh no...
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>>186888696
people needing to be shown everything all the time doesn't correlate to movie culture it correlates to digest culture
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>>186888871
My point is that Makoto is praised as smart when she is not. She appears smart because Ann and Ryuji act retarded, however I'm pretty sure they act more retarded when Makoto joins.
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>>186888871
true, common sense is a bigger meme than group dynamic
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>>186889131
>>186888871
>quotes "common sense"
>no one said "common sense"
what did he mean by this
>>186889131
Show don't tell is a basic idea you should follow in any writing if you want it to be good writing.
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>>186888638
But you follow the dialogue a bit further, it transitions to her impulsiveness when the PT target became Sae. They use that dialogue to highlight her role because it was personally connected to her and supposedly a large motivation for why she was a PT. Sae was also present.
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>>186889131
What on earth are you talking about
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Best Lovers
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>>186889380
not always especially not when writing a story in which the perspective itself is a major plot or thematic point
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>>186889605
Agreed.
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Nu
>>186889681
>>186889681
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>>186889380
My mistake. I was mixing up part of this conversation with one I was having before. Though it ties in.

>>186889228
My problems with this is
1. The game already establishes that Makoto is book smart (as in, give her a math test and she'll do great) but points out that she's not particularly great outside that context and she wants to improve
2. "Smart" is a fucking meaningless term. Seriously, it doesn't tell you anything about the character. Futaba is probably the smartest character there's been in the series and she's obviously fucked up and struggles with things. Knowledgeable in one thing doesn't mean you're knowledgeable in others.
3. Ann and Ryuji were always stupid. Seriously. They were the only ones who seriously struggled to understand the basics of the metaverse when everyone else either already knew about it or figured it out quick enough.
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>>186889737
"Smart" is the term that game keeps using for her. Ann and Ryuji don't understand immediately just because the player needs to the explanation. It's far quicker and more convenient for the player that everyone afterwards just immediately understands.
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>>186889609
Do you know what I mean by "show don't tell"? I mean you don't write things like "this character is smart", "this character is good at judo". You write a scene that exhibits these things so that the reader comes to the conclusion that they are smart or good at judo by them self.
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