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Welcome to the Sonic General. Here we talk all about everything Sonic! Share art and music, discuss about new developments, ROM hacks, speedrunning, comics, and more!

/sthg/ #883 - Break Dance Edition

>Sonic News<
Sonic Mania has released on PS4, Xbox One, and Nintendo Switch! You can purchase the game digitally from each platform's respective digital stores. The PC version will be released on Steam on August 29th.

Sonic Mania - Launch Trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8Tka60EWWU

Sonic Mania Delayed on PC to August 29th
https://twitter.com/sonic_hedgehog/status/896047869773217797

No Mania DLC Planned
https://mynintendonews.com/2017/08/16/sega-says-that-there-are-currently-no-plans-to-bring-dlc-to-sonic-mania/

>General Interest Links<
EVENT: /sthg/ is currently doing a marathon of all the Sonic cartoons! The daily stream will start at 5PM EST with a second showing at 9PM EST.
A link to the room will be provided in the thread when the streams start and also here: https://pastebin.com/cSDTQwmM

General Link Compilation
http://pastebin.com/J6hTXkhK

Drawfag/Writefag Idea Walls
http://pastebin.com/j8KkPQ4n
http://pastebin.com/jNKKMk5b

/sthg/'s Drawfag Booru
http://theride.booru.org/

/sthg/ Level Development Kit 4.0:
https://mega.nz/#!WV8ThDbL!DsLYUlzdBiNX3CaJyJU-oeU8UNxdYPttzQ9LUJA7G7g

Sonic Boom Seasons 1 & 2 can be watched here:
https://kimcartoon.me/Cartoon/Sonic-Boom
https://kimcartoon.me/Cartoon/Sonic-Boom-Season-2

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First for the first picture in my Sonic folder
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First for bad trigger discipline.
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slow rat
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I want a sonic battle sequel with the updated cast
So I can main my nigga
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>Breakdance edition.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gu0C29veAD8
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>>186752149
No, so fuck off
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>>186752149
If we follow the comics logic, the only place where interspecies couples and their offspring have been shown, yes.
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>>186752149

Well, in the preboot cross-species offspring were either one species or the other.

so maybe
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>>186752092
This or Sonic in the style of Power Stone would rule.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31vJfh5DGWo
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>>186752278
If it was powers stone, they'd need to crank up the movement speed considering how fucking slow it is
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>>186752149
No, but I imagine there's probably only a little stigma towards mixed relationships involving a human.

I imagine the inability to produce viable offspring is one of the main reasons these relationships exist at all, actually.
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>>186752065
Sonic is fast, though. And not a rat.
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>Mean Bean Machine boss is Satan's theme from Puyo Puyo.
Funny.
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I'd like to request a drawfriend to do a silly little pic with Shadow as a big guy on a plane. It would amuse me greatly.
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>>186752340
But only a few curmudgeons and virgins with rage.
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Why hasn't Robotnik made other Metal copies?
Metal Sonic is one of his more notable machines. Why not make a Metal Tails, Knuckles, Shadow, so forth. I know that tails doll and metal knuckles were in R, but that s a pretty weird racing game and no one acknowledges it, only it's music.
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It kills me that the Mania vinyl won't have the Super Sonic boss theme.
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>>186752541
Why make metal irrelevants?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8d3A7F3RGE
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>>186752149
Hopefully not. I'd want to be able to fuck however many times I want without having to worry about raising a child
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>>186752541
He made a bunch of robot Sonic's, and I get the impression that he doesn't take Sonic's friends seriously as a threat until after Adventure 2. After that he made a bunch of Robot Shadows, though they were all pretty shitty.
Metal Sonic wound up betraying him, so it's not surprising he's avoided try to make more bots on his level.
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>>186752594
I mean, Shadow might be worth it. He is pretty strong.
Then again, he did make a shadow clone army, they were all just really shittily mass produced garbo.
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>>186752541
he did a Badnik version of Knuckles multiple times and there's the Amy Doll in Mania
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>>186752650
I think it's safe to say there are condoms in Sonic's world.
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>>186752710
But he keeps using him. Wonder if they will ever pick up that "Metal Sonic is fucking cuhrayzee and thinks he is the real Sonic" thing again?
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>>186752263
Specifically, baby boys have the father's species, while little girls have the mother's species.
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>>186752541
AHEM
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>Stealth finally got the 5th emerald by the UFO glitching out and going backwards
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>>186752893
>Make a robot clone
>Color it wrong
Great job eggman.
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>>186753134

Red paint is expensive.
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>>186753105
I won't make fun of anyone else skills since mine are average at best. Special Stages in 2 really kicked my ass, even without Tails.
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>>186752804
I wonder if Metal Sonic will speak in Forces. He could speak in Heroes, but since Classic Sonic is pantomime and CD is from the same era they might use that as an excuse to keep him silent.
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What's your favorite final Eggman robot? Design only, the quality of the fight itself doesn't matter.

I can't find any good pictures of this guy.
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>>186753105
I legitimately feel bad for him having so much trouble with it
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Donkey Kong Country Sonic
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>>186753204
Yeah, but it's Modern Metal Sonic. His proportions are pretty different from the classic one.
He probably won't though. However I have kinda noticed Modern Metal tends to come off as more aggressive. The old one at least copied Sonic's taunting. The modern one just seems to be very mad, all the time.
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From previous thread
(Also that's all tonight, she may come back tomorrow though, or someone else idk)

>>186747930
"I think small mr sonic is cute, I want to eat icecream with him"

>>186748237
"All of them!! She's SO cool, like a superhero"

>>186748358
"Mr sonic is too busy helping everyone to babysit me, but sometimes he'll walk me to school. So nice of him"

>>186748936
"I agree! I wish he was happy, flowers are fun, I would give him flowers because they're pretty like him. Oh no you don't think he's allergic, right?"
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>>186752893
Mecha Knuckles was like the best thing about Sonic Advance
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>>186753237
I like the lumbejack robot from Sonic and Knuckles.
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>>186753203
>>186753257
He says he's been mostly playing them with keyboard, which would explain it if he's not used to a controller. Same type of stuff happens to me in Ultimate Chicken Horse.

But it's still pretty funny that glitched out on a stream when he's the programmer.
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>>186753237
Nega Wisp Armor.
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Posting Andrew Dickman.

>>186751804
I warned you about Kayla! I told you, dog!
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>>186753237
I liked this thing
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>>186753358
Thank you CreamAnon. It was fun.
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>>186753463
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>>186753463
Remove this.
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>>186753358
This was cute and fun. Bless.
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This explains why SonAmy hasn't happened.
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>>186753383
I like the Worker Bot from Sonic Mania's Oil Ocean
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>>186753237
>that filename
anyways, Egg King
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>>186753463
What's all this about him being a rapist?
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>>186753469
Kinda Metal Slug-ish.
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>>186753652
Sonic Team's way ahead of you. Amy doesn't have back spines.
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>>186752891
just do pokemon rules instead
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You know, I'd be completely fine if they made a DLC for Mania that just added a bunch of new Special Stages. The UFO chase is pretty fun.
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>nothing happens between S3&K and SA1
When has this ever been indicated? As far as I know, and I've played Adventure quite a few times, nothing in the game suggests that absolutely nothing takes place between the two games.
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>>186754287
just wait for PC mods
bet you 10 bucks someone's gonna do Sonic Mania: The Challenges
http://info.sonicretro.org/Sonic_3_%26_Knuckles:_The_Challenges
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>>186752405
Here you go! Sorry it took a bit, hope ya like it!
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>>186753652
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>>186752893
Mecha Sonic 3 & Mecha Knuckles
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>>186754539
Dr. Eggman, I'm GUN.
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>>186754379
Sonic does say "long time no see" when he meets Tails. However, that doesn't mean that nothing happens between S3&K and SA1. So yeah, they could probably keep making games that take place inbetween the two no problem. The only thing you need to be careful of is Amy. She explicitly hasn't seen Sonic since Sonic CD.
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I'm told playing Sonic Colors is exactly like getting hit by a car. Are they right, /sthg/?
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>>186754757
Sonic probably says "long time no see" to the chili dog vendor every single day.
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Which is Knuckles' canon campaign?
S3K or &K?
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>>186754810
Posting in /sthg/ is exactly like getting hit by a car.
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>>186754757
>She explicitly hasn't seen Sonic since Sonic CD.
Are we sure about that? Just because that's the adventure she chooses to fantasize about doesn't mean that's the last one they had together. Now, they couldn't have Amy actually fight alongside Sonic, as that would nullify her entire character arc in Adventure.
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>>186754942
Even though they bothered to change the backgrounds for the S3 half, the fact there's no Angel Island cutscene of Eggrobo fucking with him bothers me
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>>186754539
He's a big rat.
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>>186754942
S3&K seems to be canon, as the Super Emeralds exist in Mania. But since they are not active, I'm guessing that collecting them isn't canon.
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>>186755093
4u
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>>186755152
>the Super Emeralds are both canon and non-canon
Bravo Iizuka.
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>>186753257
He's got them all now.
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>>186752061
this is the first picture in my /sthg/ folder
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Sonic should man up and tell Amy how he feels for her. If he doesn't like her, then he should tell her and let her move on with her life. If he does, then he should just say it already.
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>>186755152
>the Super Emeralds exist in Mania
expand.
I don't believe you. This game is amazing, there's no way it's THIS amazing.
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>>186755268
He makes it very clear he doesn't want to be with Amy. She just doesn't take no for an answer.
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>>186755201
Schrödinger Super Emeralds
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>>186755279
You have a boss fight in the emerald shrine as knuckles and used the cracked super emeralds as platforms
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>>186755279
they exist but they kind of fucked it up, because the super emeralds aren't supposed to be separate objects from the chaos emeralds, but now all of a sudden they are.

we don't know, other than that grey, cracked super emeralds appear in the hidden palace chamber around the master emerald.
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>>186755279
Knuckles route shows them all grayed out and cracked.
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>>186755256
Muttski?
>>186755268
Maybe Sonic doesn't want to hurt her, it would be a massive blow to her.
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>>186755152
Wouldn't that just be because of Sonic's S3K campaign?
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>>186755268
Sonic isn't ready for commitment & he's not gonna let Amy down like that. Besides, if rejecting her advances is his way of telling her, then she's gonna keep going after him no matter what.
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>>186755279
In Knuckles story, one of the Eggrobos want steal the Master Emerald, and Knuckles get a flashback of what occured to him when Eggman stole the emerald.
This occurs in Hidden Palace Zone
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what are some other good places to talk about Sonic? SSMB is bad. Sonic Retro is eh. I'm not touching Something Awful anymore. The Sonic reddit keeps getting trolled by "sanic was nev- I mean MODERN sanic was never good" fags
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>>186755605
There are no good places to discuss Sonic. Not even this place.
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>>186755379
>because the super emeralds aren't supposed to be separate objects from the chaos emeralds
Source?

>>186755605
>what are some other good places to talk about Sonic?
Sonic Retro.
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>>186755605
Well anon, this IS one of the better places to discuss Sonic. As you mentioned, SSMB is fucking awful, SEGA Forums are filled with even more shitposters than here along with manchildren, Sonic Reddit gets shitposted to hell & back, etc.

There's a lot wrong with /sthg/, too. But at least it can be a decent place one in a while
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>>186755605
Discord or Smashboards
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>>186755279
You haven't played Knuckles story have you?

>>186755201
>>186755363
What's interesting is that they are cracked AND greyed out. That didn't happen in 3&K. Maybe that's a plot point in Forces?

>>186755379
No, that's not true. In Sonic & Knuckles, they are shown as grey, even when you have all the Chaos Emeralds.
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I think Amy deep down knows Sonic doesn't like her. She's just hopeful that one day he might change his mind. She is an eternal optimist after all.
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>>186754539
Hell yeah. I love you, friendo.
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>>186755749
>Maybe that's a plot point in Forces?
Forces is taking place in another dimension.
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>>186755749
>playing as knuckles
>ever
kek
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>>186755883
>not playing as Sonic then Knuckles
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>>186755749
They're not Grey in Sonic & Knuckles.

In Sonic & Knuckles, one Super Emerald appears in the chamber for each Chaos Emerald you have, and I'm fairly certain they're lit, too.
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>>186755873
Yes, but Green Hill Zone is still here. It's likely that Hidden Palace Zone is also there. Maybe they will explain it. I'm not too sure though, as it might have just been a little easter egg or something.
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>>186755938
Tails is the only character worth playing as.
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>>186756030
Why is Amy so sad?
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>>186756083
She's just tired.
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>>186756064
GHZ is damn near everywhere though
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>>186756083
She has to wake up in the middle of the night to bump the thread. You'd be sad too
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>>186755883
>he hasn't enjoyed based Mirage Saloon act 1 as Knuckles & Knuckles
Its like you don't want to have fun
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>>186755873
Aaron said to wait until Forces came out before talking about the Classic past/dimension stuff.
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Post sad Amys.
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>>186756031
Nah mate, you're forgetting. They only light up if you beat the Super Emerald special stages. If you completely ignore them, then the emeralds look like this.
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>>186756346
You're doing this on purpose.

>>186756208
Can't wait for the disappointing surprises.
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>>186755749
>What's interesting is that they are cracked AND greyed out. That didn't happen in 3&K. Maybe that's a plot point in Forces?
I think they messed up the plot
>Mania occurs after S3K
>The Super Emeralds appears in Mania as stones, independently if the player get all Chaos Emeralds or not
>In S3K, all Super Emeralds appears as stones if the player get all Chaos Emeralds, otherwise, the missing emeralds don't appear as stones
tl;dr
>In S3K, the Chaos Emeralds and Super Emeralds are the same objets
>In Mania, the Chaos Emeralds and Super Emeralds are separated objets
Don't know how this can be fixed in Forces, in fact, I very sure that Super Emeralds won't appears in Forces, Forces will be a generic boost game
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>>186756346
They look like an ugly ass filter?
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>>186755874
This would have been a god tier design for the default create a hero if not for the glasses. They didn't have to try that hard to get the point across that it's a custom character.
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>>186756541
The glasses are what makes him cute.
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>>186756306
>Wanting sad Amys
You're sick anon.
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>>186756346
I'm talking about &K, not 3K.

Try it there, I was pretty sure the Emeralds are lit in Hidden Palace in the non-locked-on game.
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>>186756487
Super Emeralds also appear in Sonic Adventures 1 and 2, as the same objects as the Chaos Emeralds.
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>>186756650
The glasses are fine. Buddy is super cute, makes me want to give him back rubs and positive encouragement.
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>>186756998
Those were just the Chaos Emeralds.
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>>186756998
>Super Emeralds also appear in Sonic Adventures 1 and 2, as the same objects as the Chaos Emeralds.
not really
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>>186755742
>Discord or Smashboards
Fuck no, those places are worse, you're better off sticking here honestly.
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>>186757391
>>186757194
When a "Chaos Emerald" is around a Master Emerald Altar and wildly bigger than a player character, it's a Super Emerald, regardless of whether or not that hack Iizuka wants to admit it.
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>>186757482
not canon
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>>186757482
No way! Try again.
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>>186757557
Why does he hae such difficulty with letting them exist? They're just bigger emeralds.
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>>186757904
Japs are weird and arbitrary.
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>>186757904
They weren't really supposed to be canon in the first place. They were just a neat little thing added in 3&K.
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>>186757904
Super Emeralds exist -> Master Emerald isn't useless -> Knuckles has a reason to exist -> DOES NOT COMPUTE

The fucked up part here being that the circumstances needed to bring out the Emeralds' full power are basically never going to be met in the thick of things.

>>186758067
They're talking about the shoehorned connection between Mania and Forces in the true ending of Sonic Mania.

Forces is going to be mediocre.
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>>186758067
MANIA SONIC DIES CONFIRMED
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>>186758067
*guessing
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>>186758145
How would the Super Emeralds existing make the Master Emerald any more useful?
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>>186758067
probably talking about Mania and mixed up the names
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>>186758046
Then they should've said something like "Please understand that the Super Emeralds are a bonus item and not part of the story."
>>186758067
Hang on, have people already seen the ending? I'm not sure if Forces has even finished development yet.
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>>186758220
Well, for starters, it would mean that the Master Emerald exists, which is a huge step up from the current state of things where it doesn't.
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I feel like Forces is gonna get delayed. 2-3 months out and what they've shown doesn't feel close to complete.
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>>186758067
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>>186758230
>>186758145
I guess they were talking about Mania. Damn, I was actually about to get hype for Forces. Nevermind. I hope Forces does at least have a good story though.
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>>186758243
>I'm not sure if Forces has even finished development yet.
the game comes out in Fall Q4 2017 my dude
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>>186758230
They called it "The Sonic Forces ending" because it's the ending that ties into Sonic Forces.

Are y'all really so bad at reading for context that you think some random nobody on twitter has seen the super secret Sonic Forces ending?
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>>186758347
I don't think they can do that. There's no way they are gonna let the end of year festivities pass without a release, to release later after they've passed.
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>>186758347
I don't believe they'll get it out in time for a December release, not in a reasonable state anyway.
>>186758409
>Fall Q4 2017
You meant Q4 2017, which I think means they'd have to rush development.
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>>186758319
Except the M.E does exist. Knuckles is just an ass guardian (although if I'm remembering correctly, Runners stated that Knuckles hid the Emerald somewhere on Angel Island).

>>186758480
The game has been in development since 2013. Although a good chunk of it was probably spent on making the new engine.
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>>186758463
If they are truly committed to offering a good product like they say they want to, then they should.
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Well that was embrassing on my part. Hopefully we get some real news on Forces since the game is few months away.
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>>186758552
>2013
That does sounds more promising, but I'm still not sure if I want to play it yet. I'll have to wait and see how it turns out.
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>>186758559
I don't believe in fairy tales. They're a company. They're going to do the thing that's the most profitable for them, like they have always done, even when they've said the exact same thing.
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>>186758620
Same. Only reason I think a delay might happen is that they're still keeping a lot of things secret when it's supposed to be out in a few months. Obviously they shouldn't reveal everything, but more than the little we've seen.
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How is all emeralds sound test in SK alone?
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>>186758673
If those 6 years were all for not then I think Sega just needs to do something about Sonic Team.. Again.
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I really hope Forces's story is as serious it's hyped up to be. They tried to do that with Lost World and Generations, and it ended up being anticlimatic. I always skip the cutscenes to both games.
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>>186758708
>They're going to do the thing that's the most profitable for them
Like delaying the most hyped Sonic game in 6 years for a few more months & delaying the PC version for another two weeks 4 days before it was supposed to release for optimization?
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>>186758347
Wouldn't surprise me in the slightest.
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>>186739910
Who is the artist of that image?
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>>186758780
I don't actually know if there's a ST Emerald cheat for Sonic & Knuckles alone. Tried googling and couldn't find anything.
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>>186759129
https://lorese.deviantart.com/art/Sonic-the-Hedgehog-684699361
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>>186759325
Thank you anon.
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>>186758969
Do you think the first delay affected Mania's sales negatively? There's wasn't a shopping spree like Christmas for that release, when there will be one for Forces, which is what they always aim for.

In any case, Forces is a completely different beast than Mania. Just consider the difference in budgets.
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>>186753463
God, Dickman is such a shitstain
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I hope Sonic steps on a lego.
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Who is stealth? I just caught up in the last thread and I don't know who that is. Someone who works at SEGA?
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>>186760195
But Knuckles never takes his shoes off.
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>>186760195
He is a lego.
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>>186760223
One of the fags behind Mania.
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>>186758463
That's exactly what they SHOULD do if the game really isn't polished enough for release. I swear to god if they pull that 06 Boom shit AGAIN I will pop a fucking blood vessel.

My aggression isn't directed at you, but at sega if they FUCK UP AGAIN.
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>>186760223
He helped to make the Sonic 1/2/CD ports of recent years.
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>>186760223
Long time member of the old Sonic hacking scene. He's one of the main programmers for Mania and also worked on the remasters of 1 and 2 along with Taxman.
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>>186760390
>That's exactly what they SHOULD do if the game really isn't polished enough for release
What for? Everyone has mostly agreed already that they're good on their word, and think that they're getting an at least moderately polished game, so they aren't going to win more sales by skipping the shopping spree.

Anyway, shitposting aside, I don't think the game will be in such a terrible state for them to have to delay it. That said, I don't think it's gonna be in such a great shape either, but not delaying it will probably be a good compromise for them.
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So its apparently cool to shit in Yuji Uekawa now that Tyson Hesse is doing official Sega game art? Why is it now that Mania isn't out anything done by anyone of Mania team is held to a higher regard than that of Sonic Team? Like Hesse is a good artist but his modern Sonic isn't as good and shouldn't replace Uekawa.
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When will Warren and Pontac fuck off? It's already proven they know jack shit about the Sonic series and are flanderizing Sonic and Tails' personalities.
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>Forces isn't looking good
Besides the unoptimized Switch port, what exactly is wrong with Forces?
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>>186760854
I haven't noticed many people shtting on Uekawa's art, and they better not considering it's the best Modern design.
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If you get all Chaos Emeralds in SK alone, how the Super Emeralds are as stones or there is not emeralds?
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>>186760854
I don't think hating Yuji's designs are as popular as you think. Or if it is, at least I don't hand around those people, because they are fools.
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>>186760896
They've been demoted to localization. Faithful localization supervised by Sonic Team and Sega. If Forces does well, they could be suspended from Sonic games, assuming they don't quit from all the negative attention Sonic fans have given them since Generations and Lost World.
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>>186760956
Check Hesse's Twitter for his tweet saying he likes both Modern and Classic Sonic. People seem to think that is is better than Uekawa's and that is what Sonic should look like.
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>>186761049
*hang, my hand slipped
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>>186760854
i've seen literally one tumblr post about this and that's it

are you this mad some people have correctly identified uekawa's style are rigid? because it shouldn't matter
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>>186761095
It's Twitter, what did you expect? People can freely express their shit taste in an unrestricted format. The only good thing about Twitter are game dev updates and photos of things you like.
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>>186761072
I wish I'd screencapped this when it happened, but I remember seeing some Japanese fans were also upset the day Pontac and Graff were involved with Forces. One person said something like "This has to be a joke. I feel like crying."
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>>186761153
*as rigid
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>>186760854
I'd better not come across those people in real life.
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>>186761095
>>186761095
I just looked at some of the comments, and they're garbage as I expected.
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>>186761153
Who said I was checking Tumblr?
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>>186761227
I wish you would have.
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>>186761153
It became rigid over time, but it used to be quite fluid and appealing. The drawings were bursting with life and personality. I think the rigidity of the current designs was part of the "face lift" that SEGA did with Sonic after the 90s 'tude wasn't in fashion anymore- which I think was a mistake. They should have kept Sonic as a relic of the 90s instead of trying to update his personality. He could have been a Bart Simpson equivalent of the video game world.
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>>186761359
honestly if it wasn't here or tumblr it probably wasn't anywhere that matters

[punchline]
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>>186761390
They had a Silver the Hedgehog icon, that's all I can remember.
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>>186761153
If anything, the one that sounds mad is you, faggot.
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>>186761489
I've seen old posts on sonic related forums from a few years back, although it was more like, a bunch of people talking over each other about why their preferred stage in Sonic's design was the best.
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>>186761498
Damn!! Epic burn, man. You sure got me to reply.
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>>186761496
Half the fucking Japanese fanbase has a Silver icon. No joke. White hog a popular.
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>>186761573
As expected of their shit taste.
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>>186761573
Was Silver just like, somehow a better-written and more interesting character in Japan's '06 compared to what we got? Or is Japan just stupid and don't know any better? I'm willing to believe the latter, given how "successful" Dragon Ball Super is.
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>>186761153
If it's the same Tumblr post I saw the name even that is silly. He criticized Uekawa for staying in model, which isn't an issue. It's also not an issue for Hesse to go off model, it's two different philosophies. And while I will agree that Uekawa has become more rigid overtime it's mainly cause the work he does are this Sonic channel wallpapers. Looking at his concept art he can be expressive without having to go off model like Hesse does.
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>>186761573
I like Silver, but I don't know why he's popular.
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>>186761573
>White hog a popular.
I can see why. He's the nicest male hedgehog, which makes him stand out, his quills are the most unique, his powers don't involve running fast, and his friendship with Blaze is endearing too.
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>>186761665
Same thing, man. I ain't complaining, however!
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>>186761632
Rude!
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>>186761682
>his powers don't involve running fast
That was only in 06. He can run fast in the Rivals series.
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Sonic communities and forums was never good
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>>186761910
Is Rivals canon?
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>>186761662
It is possible to be too rigid, but I'd enjoy seeing examples of their best work if you have any to share.

Adhering too hard to model IS, however, a bad thing, just not like, a big deal. whether or not it becomes noticeable or not just depends on what the medium is and how long it goes on.

Off-model isn't a bad word, and while I'm not saying you're saying it is, I'm more than a little tired of seeing it get thrown around like it's a bad thing by people who don't really know what they're talking about.
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>>186761662
I think the problem lies less in rigidness and more in how he's always made to draw the same poses. When he doesn't, it's perfectly fine.
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>>186762003
Yes. It's how Silver met Sonic before Colors DS and Generations.
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>>186762127
I kind of like the precision to be honest. But I think there's room for more than one official way of drawing Sonic as well.
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>>186762127
There is concept art of Marine that he has done, the Adventure artwork as well as his concept art for Sonic X

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRi96ilj50VGfYGoAkMjVEISTbcusH-ihNPxwjQnVt5h8NU8-p4

https://i.pinimg.com/236x/10/b4/b1/10b4b10aeadd931e7358dabca94434a1--sonic-adventure-retro-arcade.jpg

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/c7/05/96/c7059693e65f6f29cb5ee8cb66f03978.jpg

http://info.sonicretro.org/File:SonicXConcept02-6.jpg
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>>186762647
I love Orbot so much.
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>>186762784
I like Orbot because he sounds like Gabumon from the first season of Digimon
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>>186762880
That's because he is Gabumon. Same VA.
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>tfw you only have a PC
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>>186762779
>http://info.sonicretro.org/File:SonicXConcept10-7.jpg
L-lewd!

Also Rouge's concepts from the same gallery look awesome.
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>>186758046
That's what he wants you to believe.

>>186758243
And yet they are in the story... huh.
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>>186758552
>Except the M.E does exist.
>not seen or referenced ever since sonic adventure 2
Interesting.
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>>186760854
Looks like he noticed the same thing
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how many days left since sonic mania piracy?
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>>186763397
Wow, he's really a cool dude.
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>>186763367
It was referenced offhandedly at the end of Heroes, but that was the last of it.
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Thank you for my reboot I LOVE YOU ALL i have my own game again
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>>186763397
>>186763617
That's not "cool." That's literally the most basic form of courtesy and professionalism you could possibly owe. Sadly many artists forget this and LOVE to be considered superior.
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>>186763397
I never paid much mind to this guy before. Not in spiteful way, I just didn't know his name and didn't follow him, but I seriously respect him now after today.
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But I Am not saying Im superior I just Wanted to thank All the sonic fans for my reboot
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>>186763779
That's why I said it's cool, it's so uncommon nowadays that you don't expect it. Most others would take the compliments and leave it.
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sorry i got confuesd im still learning 4chan
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>>186763674
>thanks to all the Bubsy theories, we memed this fucker back to life
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Fuck You
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>>186762957
That makes sense
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GREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEN
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just because Im From Tommo Inc It Still Means I Still Have MY GAME
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I want bubsy to go and stay go
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>>186752104
>Robot copy of Sonic that isn't Metal Sonic.
I...what?
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>>186764414
please just make a bubsy thread
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Sonic Racing on Wii U got reprinted as a Nintendo Select title.
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Why do you all hate me so much
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What the hell was Sonic doing while Eggman was taking over the world in Forces? I think he was in another dimesion or probably erased somehow. Or he took a long ass nap in Lost World. What do you think happened?
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>Monday
>Bubsy posting
It's time to sleep.

>>186764752
Dimensional bullshit.
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Dont Know but do you hate me? i know everybody does in this comment area
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>>186752710
Basically this.
Most of Sonic's friends are hardly a threat, and he has to keep Metal Sonic on a hard leash at this point because he's proven to be dangerous as fuck when left unchecked.
I'm not sure why his Shadow androids sucked so much dick though. Metal Sonic's AI must be difficult for him to replicate or something.
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I have played sonic lost worlds I thinks IT FUCKING SUCKS
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I hope Classic Sonic talks in Forces. He was never actually a silent hero. He had a voice a far back as Sonic CD.
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I Have to go piss I Will Bring sonic 06 With me LoL
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>>186765346
Just make a whole game out of this.
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>>186765346
The music for that boss was excellent. I"m listening to it right now.
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>>186752804
I kind of hope they do a little.
I like Metal Sonic a lot from a characterization standpoint. He's really had the hardest 'life' of all the characters, and there's no real redemption for him.
Imagine being created solely for one purpose. You have only one thing you need to succeed at to be considered worthwhile. And you just can't do it. You try and you try but you're beaten down by your 'superior' every time. Sonic can be Sonic, he can live life any way he wants as a free, living being. But Metal Sonic was created SOLELY to be the better Sonic. He never had a choice, he can never be considered worth anything until he's able to beat Sonic. This is his entire existence and he fails. Every. Time.
It's why I thought his line in Generations was pretty short but surprisingly deep when you think about it.
>I will fight you as many times as it is necessary.
It's cold, it's logical, and it shows that it's all he can do because it's his entire existence.
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>>186765163
More like the only time he had a voice in the classic games. They wouldn't do it because Classic in Forces exists for nostalgia alone. Having him talk would probably be a bit weird or out of place for some folk.

It's be funny if they made it a running joke of Classic about to say something but always being cut-off by someone else, much to his visible annoyance.
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Stop inoring me im Sorry
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>>186765395
Bring it back then.
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bring what back?
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>>186760390
it's going to happen, i've predicted it since the title of the game was named after a year
prepare for "sonic was never good and mania is bad in retrospect" to come out from critics
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>>186765431
I'm just attached to OVA and AoSTH Sonic and feel like this "silent" Classic is foreign and doesn't actually capture the nostalgia I would have felt if he had a voice and spoke in dated 90s slang (but was serious when he had to be).
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>>186753237
I loved that boss Tails fought at the end of Sonic Adventure 1. It looked so huge, weaponized, and he seemed really ready to fucking murder everyone.
Also obligatory Sonic 2 giant Eggman mech.
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There. Better.
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>>186761665
He's the most anime character in the series. Remember he was reffered to as 'basically Trunks' by the actual team.
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>>186763674
I love you Bubsy come back Bubsy cum in my ass Bubsy.
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Tails is a smart cookie.
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mmmm cookie
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WHEN EVERYTHING YOU KNOW HAS COME AND GONE
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>>186766380
My Life In A Nutshell
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>>186766280
>subtitles for ants
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>>186766424
You need some glasses anon.
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>>186766280
Why does Tails look good in a dress?
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>>186766460
I do wear glasses and can read those, but the size seems quite smaller than usual.
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Can I have a cookie?
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>>186766424
When the PC version displays at 1080p the HUD elements, menus and subtitles don't scale with it. That's why it's tiny.
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I love you Sonic gen, I needed to get it out there before I forget to say it. I need afuckingh hug
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>>186766280
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkPnepwOj_o
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Closest thing to perfection tier
>Sonic 1, 2, CD, 3&K, Mania

These are alright too
>Sonic & Tails duology, Advance trilogy, Rush duology

Unnecessary adaption, but still playable tier
GG/MS Sonic 1 and 2, DS Colors

No reason to play them unless you're a true Sonic autist
>Chaotix, Pocket Adventure, Sonic the Portable, Episode II, Generations 3DS

Actually not a game tier
>Sonic Genesis (GBA)

Anything I missed?
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fix the fucking leaderboards
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The fuck is with you people at this hour?
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>>186767842
Adventure in alright
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>>186768003
I was talking strictly 2D games since the 3D games honestly can be judged completely on their own as a series
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>>186768068
I see. Colours Wii in alright then.
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i have a wii
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>>186767874
Have leaderboards in video games ever not been broken?
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Dead General
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>>186753358
Those put a smile on my face. It's nice to start the day with this, anon!
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So on Thursday, Famitsu will be streaming Sonic Forces gameplay with Shun Nakamura
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>>186756173
I glitched the audio so everytime I jump, the ring collecting sound effect played.
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>Some guy posting a bunch of Bubsy pictures
>"I want Honey to piss on me"
>"Why does Tails look good in a dress?"

Quality general, guys. keep it up.
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>>186754379
The timeline is
1CD23&K, Mania, ???, 4ep1&2, Adventure onwards.
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Can we make a Bubsy General?
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So are we getting a fourth Forces trailer this week?
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>>186768892
Dustforce works mostly alright, except if you change your Steam ID.
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Why did they make the special stages so fucking horrible in this game?
I can't even beat the first one because of the terrible depth perception.
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>>186770642
yes

>>186771115
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STC: Online has a new issue out.
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>>186771202
is the silver storyline still going?I hope so
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>>186771259
>it's no use
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>>186771345
I-I like silver
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>>186763590
Since? Yeah, Sonic Mania piracy is gonna bring about the end of days. We have 5 hours left now
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>>186765371
Puyo Puyo Tetris exists. It's on Switch and PS4 (and wiiu and 3ds and vita if you hack/import, 3ds even has a rudimentary translation patch)
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>>186766524
You can have a dookie
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>>186770964
Because Dimps wanted to ruin all the Advance games with shitty Special Stages
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>>186771912
>Can't turn Super in normal gameplay
There's really no reason to get the chaos emeralds is there
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>>186770585
At least we're not FNaF or Undertale.
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>>186771981
Only for the Last Story meme the 3D games started. Even though it made more sense there because there were no Special Stages

Dimps were never that smart, they're like Sonic Team but for 2D games and you gotta be a special level of incompetent to fuck up 2D a game
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>>186771912
Advance 3 did it just fine.
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>>186763397
That's really nice of him.

>>186770414
Aww. I wanna give that hedgehog a hug.
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>Tails can't unlock achievements in the 2011 release of Sonic CD

What's the point of this asshole
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Gonna be a while before it's totally done, but heres the linework for my next big drawing for this place
Going for some perspective and all that. thoughts so far?
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Nice general etc etc, ad infintum Sionicbabs.
Better hope the world ends in this upcoming eclipse to free you all from this shitty cycle.
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>>186763397
Hesse is based.
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>>186773369
I'm just happy to see two cool robots about to duke it out.
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>>186773268
...Good question. I wouldn't mind it and I'm not even lez
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>>186773665
Thanks! I'm thinking of maybe making the canvas a bit bigger and adding a background, possibly stardust speedway or some place Metal would show up
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>>186773727
I guess Gemerl would have to save Little Planet.
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>>186773801
Unless S. speedway's been overdone? I don't have nay problem with any suggestions but that's just the first that came to mind.
I'm kinda sad Gemerl never showed up again. I love his design and the best ending in advance 3 where he's a guardian for the Rabbit family
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>>186773921
It's overdone, but there's not many places that have much of a connection with Metal. Perhaps you should have it at Vanilla's house and Gemerl is protecting them.
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>>186753745
Then what can Amy do to win Sonic's heart?
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>>186774052
That's a cool idea! Definitely gonna consider that one
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>>186774039
That's gross but I'm also strangely fine with it.
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>>186774240
They have them at the petstore but I'm pretty sure it's illegal in most places.
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>>186774064
Give him chillidogs and let him have some space.
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>>186773268
>>186773718
>>186774039
>>186774240
>>186774384
>>186774524
>>186774535
>mfw these posts
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I wish /vg/ had better mods.
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>>186774591
Hey, stop denying it.

>>186774645
I want Honey to hug me
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>>186774613
me too, mate
there's some degenerate ass shit going on in here tonight
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>thread turned into cat sex thread

???
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>>186765346
I fucking loved this moment. I felt like I was the only person in the world to play mean bean machine, and to bave that referenced was amazing.

Almost as good as realising the special stages were Sonic R in disguise.
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>>186774934
O-Okay...
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You know the Sonic 1 on Genesis is the canon game, but in a way I kind of feel like the 8-bit version has a more realistic setting. There's a bunch of cities in the 16-bit South Island (Spring Yard and Star Light) but absolutely none in the 8-bit version. It's all uninhabited environments like jungles and shit with Scrap Brain really being the only thing close to urban/industrial

The tone of the 8-bit version is just kind of bizarre in retrospect
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>>186775018
you are one sick fuck
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Boy, SEGA sure makes one hot pussy cat
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>>186775018
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This general sometimes I fucking swear
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>>186775108
I'm guessing the changes were due to performance?
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>>186774613
As soon as applications open again, I'm putting mine in.
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>>186775472
GET THE FUCK OUT HOLY SHIT
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>>186775548
SANIC NOOOO
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>>186775586
He's just a little scuffed up, he'll be fine.
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>>186775623
Good. Is this fine too?
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>>186775684
Well, at that point he should've lost rings.
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>Over the next few days, Knuckles explored the rest of the isle assessing any damage as he went to the other six Chaos Emerald altars, finding each in the same state as the first. Refusing to give up, the guardian continued to investigate, knowing that the answer to what had just happened must be somewhere on his island. It was during this process that he came across a strange, egg-shaped man wandering about the atoll. Confronting him, the man merely smiled, and calmly explained that he was a scientist who had come across the island to study the strange egg that had appeared. Making sure to fully trick the guardian, Eggman continued, telling the echidna that he also knew of the emeralds that were on the island, and that a blue hedgehog by the name of Sonic was the one looking for them. Shocked, Knuckles ran off, the mad genius smiling at his own skillful lie.

The Classic Sonic plots are a total trip
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>>186775926
Didn't Sonic Underground use this plot?
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>tfw waking up to these posts

Honey lovers and this thread need to be nuked.

Asap.
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I really hope that you guys have the Sonic Generations soundtrack downloaded. There are so many damn good songs in this, not just the ones made for Generations.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JyeHzonpfWo
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>>186774591
What the fuck did I miss.
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>>186776221
bubsy the bobcat general

>>186772569
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>>186776221
On second thought, I don't want to know. I'll consider myself lucky.
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>>186776214
I just use youtube to listen to it.
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>>186776221
people who molest their cats and want fictional characters to piss on them
we were probably about 2 posts away from one of them fawning over two babies one fox or some shit
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>>186776252
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>>186776407
kek
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>>186774591
*Mama Mia's Outta This Forsaken General*
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>>186776524
pretty sure this was confirmed from an EB games australia listing
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>>186776524
Source
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>>186753339
Is this the same guy from a while ago who swore that Metal Sonic's Heroes design is the same as his classic design?
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>>186776661
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEULFFImc40
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>>186757904
They don't want any potential DBZ lawsuits
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>>186776784
WOOOOOOOOAAAAAH
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>>186776784
jesus, whoever's playing this is worse than the people who were playing mania pre-release
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>>186760925
The animations are janky at times and the second stomp sound plays prematurely before the player even hits the ground
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>>186760854
Who the fuck is shitting on Uekawa and how did they get out of the basement?
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>>186760925
custom character looks boring
classic sonic looks even more boring
vocals are fine for buttrock themes but the entire game is pushing it
classic sonic music pales in comparison to mania's or even generations, judging by green hill alone
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Anyone doing something for the eclipse today?
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>>186776784
Wait, you can double jump in Forces as Modern?
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I have a question for the Anon that created hilda
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>>186777180
These are a matter of your personal opinion and general level of butthurt though.

And the classic music samples released were confirmed to be demo versions literally minutes after they were posted.
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I'm still looking forward to Forces even with its apparent problems and knowing it won't be near as good as Mania
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>>186777197
Someone should draw Eclipse looking at the eclipse.
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>>186777275
I'm going to enjoy Forces just like I enjoyed Mania, and the shitposters on 4chan cant stop me
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To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand Wacky Workbench. The new mechanics are extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of theoretical physics most of the design will go over a typical player's head. There's also Sonic's pinball physics, which is carefully considered for the elements of the level to be deftly woven into this level - it is a creative two acts that betray all expectation, and pushes the question of "what is a Sonic level?" to its logical conclusion.

The non-casual players understand this stuff; they have the intellectual capacity to truly appreciate the depths of these acts, to realize that they're not just fun- they say something deep about LIFE. As a consequence people who dislike Wacky Workbench ARE idiots- of course they wouldn't appreciate, for instance, the humor and beauty in touching the concepts of touching the floor and traversing vertically being a NEGATIVE.

I'm smirking right now just imagining one of those addlepated simpletons scratching their heads in confusion and frustratedly trying to hold right to win as Naoto Ohshima's genius unfolds itself on their screens. What fools... how I pity them. And yes by the way, I DO have a Sonic CD tattoo. And no, you cannot see it. It's for the ladies' eyes only- And even they have to demonstrate that they're within 5 IQ points of my own (preferably lower) beforehand.
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>>186777270
Ohtani confirmed that the instruments are final and only the sound mixing that will change, but he might change the instruments since a good chunk of fans hate them

Personally I really like Green Hill's theme
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>>186777374
There are two kinds people in this world

Wacky Workers and Metallic Madmen
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>>186777217
Might be a customization if those are back from Generations.
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>>186777275
>knowing it won't be near as good as Mania
It will be better than Mania for people like be who prefer 3D gameplay. And no I'm not saying Mania is bad but it's not nearly as "universal" as the hardcore fans think it is
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>>186777270
>general level of butthurt
more like your general level of defensive shilling
i'm the kind of fag who will unironically defend unleashed to my last breath, but this looks at best mediocre
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>>186777275
Same.
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>>186777382
I do too. I was pleasantly surprised that they aren't using the same generic song as always, as iconic as it is, it gets old after a while.
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>>186777275
>enjoying shit
ABSOLUTE MADMAN
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>>186777374
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>>186777275
I enjoyed Mania & I'm going to enjoy Forces and like them for completely different reasons.
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>>186777436
>universal
It's practically universal for nearly every reviewer to bash 3D Sonic and praise Mania. People who prefer the Boost are in the minority in comparison and Mania seems more open to a general audience than what Forces is gunning for

The difference is since Forces has a higher budget and physical release, it still might be more successful
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>>186777439
You act like your opinions are fact when they aren't. I don't care that you like Unleashed, either. Only ten minutes of footage for this game has been demonstrated, for a game that is presumably around 3 hours long at least, and everything you say that makes the game "bad' is small and petty and down to your personal preference and not the game as a whole.
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>>186777593
Fucking this.

All the so-called Sonic """fans""" turning their noses up at Forces as if Mania is the only good game since &Knuckles can get fucked.

Forces has a different appear to different Sonic fans. You have the immersive wish-fulfillment that the customization offers, and the tell-tale high speeds and setpeices and story drama of the modern games.

They even threw in Classic Sonic AGAIN for you fucks to have something to enjoy, but all they hear back is "muh physics" and "muh music".

There is something for every Sonic fan in Forces. And if you dont think theres anything you will enjoy in Forces, then surprise, you're not a Sonic fan.
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>>186777741
Enjoy your ban, mods don't like joke raids either
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>>186777745
You go anon! Show those Fake Sonic Fans who's boss!! You're with us or against us!! Protect our Sonic!!!
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>>186753463
Pretty sure he stole that dog OC design from someone.
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>>186777714
>AAA game
>around 3 hours long
also that's okay, don't listen to criticism of a game, think of it as perfect and don't cry when it doesn't
>>186777745
>physics aren't important anymore
>music isn't important anymore
>dark and edgy stories, the things that NEARLY KILLED THE SERIES AND CAUSED THIS "SONIC WAS NEVER GOOD" MENTALITY TO OCCUR are good now
>oc creator anything but a meme
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>>186777803
:( mean and rude
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>>186777632
I don't care about reviewers. Even their positive praise for Mania is based on ignorance the majority of the time. I care what I think and what actual fans of the 3D games think, not what people who are paid to say Sonic sucks "except for Mania" think.
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>>186777924
If Forces's physics were unplayable like Sonic 4 it would be a different story. But they're not, they are perfectly appropriate and enjoyable physics, and you're lying to yourself if you think otherwise.

And the music is fine too.
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>>186777934
Yeah it's inane as fuck, but even general audiences are praising Mania even if a lot of it is parroting

Boost is just super niche, and the tone/look/gameplay of Forces is looking to be niche within niche
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>>186778013
the physics don't seem awful, but it's not the way it should handle
and the vocal themes are killing me, if there's not an option to turn them off i'm completely ignoring forces
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>>186777324
Who is this character?
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>>186777924
Forces is appealing to a certain audience of fans who enjoy the more 00s ish version of 3D Sonic that cared about story immersion and character development. If that isn't you, then simply move on to a game you like.
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>>186778149
Sonic the Hedgehog
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>>186778085
Do you not understand how 3D Sonic games work? Cheesy vocal tracks are a staple in all of them, except Boom but Boom is barely a Sonic game anyway.
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>>186778239
maybe for the character themes drowned out in the background of a cutscene, but not in the middle of a zone
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>>186778157
Certainly, although it would be nice if the people shitting all over everyone who's excited about Mania would do the same.
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>>186778149
Eclipse the Darkling. A character from the Post-reboot Archie Sonic comics.

http://archiesonic.wikia.com/wiki/Eclipse_the_Darkling
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>>186777745
Classicfags keep acting like SEGA's too stupid to jump on the opportunity to make more shekels by commissioning another Mania after it sold like hotcakes and got such a high metascore. There's a reason why Classic Sonic's in Forces; He brought in the money in Gens.
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>>186778480
so you admit he was shoehorned in to make more money?
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>>186778292
You just proved that you know nothing about Modern Sonic games and this conversation is a waste of time.
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>>186778531
Nobody denies Classic Sonic was shoehorned into Forces. At this point I think people are just glad Forces spawned Mania
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>>186777219
WHERES THE PR0N?
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>>186778552
>instead of explaining why that's bullshit, i'll just call you an idiot and ignore you
heroes didn't do it
shadow didn't do it
06 didn't do it
unleashed didn't do it
colours didn't do it
generations did for a throwback stage
and i always thought SA2 was shit
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>>186778531
>admit
I've been saying this since the start nigga
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>>186778727
You're not counting bosses, right?

Captcha: Aarron (sic)
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>>186778239
To be fair, vocal themes have been gone for a while. Black Knight had a lot and Colours only had 2 but that was 7 years ago and only now they're making a comeback.
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>>186778727
Fine, you're right, a lot of vocal themes are in cutscenes or few levels aside from SA2 where it's more common throughout the game, but thinking SA2 is shit doesn't change the fact that it's a quintessential Modern game and a majority of people actually like the vocal themes, as evidenced by the excitement people had when they released the vocal themes for the Forces.

You can't just act like Adventure 2 isn't one of the most acclaimed of the 3D games with fans of that game who aren't even that big of fans of Sonic who still have massive nostalgia boers for it. When most casual fans think of a 3D Sonic game, they'll usually think of Adventure 1 or 2 first, and City Escape is basically the mecca of the nostalgia of Adventure games for a huge number of people. So basically, they're going back to something that people have always enjoyed who actually like the modern 3D games, since no one actually complains about vocal themes in levels except for, you, I guess. Maybe a few others. Not enough to actually matter.
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>>186779391
I think Secret Rings had some, and Riders also had some too. Not sure if the gameboy games count, but Rush also had some.

Lost World probably could have benefited from having at least one or two.
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>>186779575
Super Mario 64 DS is my favorite Gameboy game
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>>186779575
>gameboy
Sorry, I mean DS

>>186779649
Yeah, I know.
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>>186778607
Not my question. I'm actually more interested in the backstory. I'm drawing shit and I want to use this character. Head to /trash/ to get your jollies young man
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>>186777219
>hilda
Literally who?
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>>186780267
some generic OC a few people like to circlejerk just because it's a female OC.
Ignore them
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>>186779940
There's very little lore for Hilda. pic related
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>tfw no drawfag here will ever draw your oc
>tfw your oc will never be recognized by /sthg/

why live
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>>186780525
I wonder if he'd allow someone to interpret her in a different way?
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>>186780797
>Be drawfag with oc
>No one cares because it's a guy and not a waifu
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>>186780894
Show pls
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>>186780797
Same here, though I haven't really made OCs for the general. Just the Badnikfus which nobody in a majority furry general would care about. I'd seriously like to shill but I'm worried it would be met with backlash due to irrelevancy
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>>186780945
>>186780952
I don't try and push him, and I'll always draw the canon characters more than him, but a few anons did like it when I posted it a while back at least
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>>186780797
Your time will come when Forces releases. If it's anything like /dbg/, you're gonna get a lot of people posting their OCS and/or drawfags taking requests for said OCs. It's a dark road we're heading down but hopefully it doesn't delve too much into a circlejerk.
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>>186781049
Oh I saw him! I remember, it was a few threads back.

>>186781060
But I can't make her in Forces.
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>>186781049
Yeah I remember this asshole. I was the one who suggested the blue color
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>>186781082
Yeah, besides these two drawings I literally haven't done much else with him. I did finally settle on the name "frost" for him
>>186781139
And it was a good suggestion! I still enjoy how the colours look
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>>186781049
It's not the fact it's a guy that I don't care, he looks like Jet with recolored Amy rose boots senpai
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>>186781205
You kind of have the same style as the guy who did the cheetah, was that you?
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>>186776784
japs usually have an english ui, so is this gooks?
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>>186781258
Besides the beak, I don't see much resemblance to Jet
>>186781308
Cheetah? I missed like 4 or 5 threads so whoever did a cheetah wasn't me
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>>186781374
This guy that I have saved for whatever reason.
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>>186780894
Dude hilda oozes personality potential. Don't hate because of gender
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>>186781374
Not jet, speedy I mean
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>>186780894
Or it could be because your OC is boring?
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>>186780952
I like the Badnikfus, and people tolerated that Buzzbomber OC well enough back in the day.
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>>186781538
I mean, they're both birds but that's about it
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>>186781582
If it's not an OC /sthg/ has already established it'll most likely be shunned.
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>>186781656
Comic speedy
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>>186781810
?
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>>186781810
?
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>>186781582
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According to Spazkid, Arin unironically likes Forces
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>>186782039
AAAAAAAHAHAHAH
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Remember kids, if you look at the Eclipse today, stay safe, stay alert, and whatever you do, don't die! Because if you die outside your own game, you don't regenerate. Ever! Game over.
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>>186782134
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>>186775205
What would Boom Team Sonic and Game Team Sonic think of each other if they met?
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>>186781865
Sonic character designers really have a thing for green birds.
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>>186782221
war
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Classic Sonic
Modern Sonic
Metal Sonic
Silver Sonic
Mecha Sonic
Yellow Flying Apprentice Sonic
Red Powerful Non-Chuckling Anti-Sonic
Yellow Flying Apprentice Sonic II
Red Powerful Pacifist No-Spikes Sonic
Artificially Created Alien Blood Dark Sonic
Reverse-Polarity Fire Lady Sonic
Future Psychic Naive Sonic
Boom Sonic

Who is Amy Rose's One True Love?
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>>186782597
>Amy Rose
who's that, Pink Sonic???
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>>186782597
>Artificially Created Alien Blood Dark Sonic

This is why I don't try to explain Sonic to my parents.
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>>186782665
Pink Magical Girl Sonic
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>>186782597
Blue Knuckles
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>>186782597
You missed a sonic
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>>186782252

The comics do, Game Speedy seems to be a white bird with green armour.
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>>186782039
So the cupcakes worked?
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>>186782597
>>186782785
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>>186782597
>Classic Sonic
>Modern Sonic
>Metal Sonic
>Silver Sonic
>Mecha Sonic
>Yellow Flying Apprentice Sonic
>Red Powerful Non-Chuckling Anti-Sonic
>Rose-colored Magical Girl Sonic
>Yellow Flying Apprentice Sonic II
>Red Powerful Pacifist No-Spikes Sonic
>Artificially Created Alien Blood Dark Sonic
>Reverse-Polarity Fire Lady Sonic
>Future Psychic Naive Sonic
>Boom Sonic

How many Eggmans are there...?
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>>186782039
source?
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>>186782785
Darn, I forgot Extreme Gear Wind Riding Green Bird Thief Sonic
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>>186782869
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>>186783054
And future fuck, flavor of the month monster sonic
Also mighty morphing musclefur twilight Jacob sonic
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>>186773369
i love it so far! but please don't forget metal's little cheek screws.
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>>186783025
4chins thinks the link is spam so I can't post it but it's on his Twitch at some point during Oil Ocean Zone Act 2, I can't be fucked to find where so have fun looking
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>>186782934
>Classic Eggman
>Modern Eggman
>Clinically Insane Future Descendent Eggman
>Boom Eggman
>Various Boom Eggmen but with different colors
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I should have mentioned Little Girl Pacifist Sonic & Chao Sonic, Ultimate Fighting Battle Robot Sonic, and Reverse-Polarity Water Ship-building Apprentice Sonic...
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>>186782597
Which on has the biggest dick?
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>>186783282
Don't forget Grandpa Eggman
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>>186783303
Vector's 20, so probably him.
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>>186783282
You forgot Clinically Insane Revenge-seeking-but-formerly-good Grandfather Eggman.
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>>186783303
Reverse-Polarity Fire Lady Sonic
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I want to point something out about the recent Boom episode. TV animation studios don't make a brand new model just for a spit-second appearance in a TV show. It's a huge waste of budget. We're going to see Vector again, even if he's never a major character in an episode.
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>>186783282
Bayonetta eggman also
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>Forces releases
>PC date is delayed for 2 weeks
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Would you still love Sonic if he was slow?
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>>186770787
I honestly want to see a better Classic stage to make me at least think "Ok, maybe this can be fun even though its not the same physics" Like Generations did. I know it was far from classic emulation but at least they made the stages work around the new physics and still be enjoyable to play through.
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>>186783282
>>Classic Eggman
>Modern Eggman
>Clinically Insane Future Descendent Eggman
>Boom Eggman
>Various Boom Eggmen but with different colors
>Robot Pirate Eggman
>Formerly Good but Revenge-Mad Grandfather Eggman
>Robo Eggman
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>>186783478
No
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>>186783478
Yes.
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>>186783478
He was always slow and I love him.
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>>186783567
>space station Eggman
>giant robo Eggman on space station Eggman
>giant robo Eggman on space station Eggman II
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>>186783365
>>186783406
Oh yeah, him and Fragile Little Girl Eggman
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>>186783567
I forgot:
>Yellow Flying Apprentice Eggman
who also doubles as
>Yellow Flying Apprentice Sonic
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Is there a worse boss in the entirety of 2D Sonic than Oil Ocean 2
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>>186783478
That went so well the last two times it happened, right?
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>>186783720
Labyrinth Zone
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>>186783720
I don't think even 3D Sonic has a shittier boss
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>>186783720
No. That boss is legit the worst fucking thing.
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>>186782795
There's still Jet and Bean the Dynamite.
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>>186783720
>>186783964
I don't fucking get how Dunkey can play that then say Mania has no low points, it's like cancerous shit stain on a big beautiful chocolate cake
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>>186783842
>>186783964
>>186784104
Go away, Mark.
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>>186753134
Its funny, in the classic games we had Mecha Sonic before Metal Sonic, and the mechas were several prototypes. Then we had Metal Knuckles in Sonic R and he was supposed to be built on the same system as Metal Sonic, so I can only assume Mecha Knuckles is actually a downgrade.
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>>186783720
>>186783842
>>186783964
>>186784104
People don't like Oil Ocean Zone, Act 2's boss? How come? Can't be because it's too easy, plenty of other bosses are easier. Can't be because it's too hard, because as long as you don't have the worst case of ADHD it's pretty easy to figure out and handle.
Mania's Flying Battery Zone, Act 2 boss is worse IMO.
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>>186783720
>tfw had a shield against that boss and it only took me 2 cycles to kill it without getting any extra hits in at the start
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>>186784257
Have you PLAYED it, Anon?

>>186784296
Fuck you
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>>186784296
That's how I beat it but playing it as Knuckles legit ruined my night
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>>186784318
It's no worse than the original Oil Ocean's boss. You're just shit.
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>>186784318
Yes. The worst thing about it is that it's a "wait for a chance to hit" boss, but there are plenty of other ones like that in this game, much less across the rest of the series.
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>>186781258
it's a bit late, but how's this for boots? made it more it's own thing
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>>186784441
No that one was easy
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>>186777219
Still waiting to see you for a character interview Hildanon
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>>186784450
I think you should keep it simple. Make his outfit draw attention to his outfit. Not to one particular article of clothing
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>>186781205
>>186781049
idtf anon. male OCs are superior though

i was the guy who suggested the coat! glad you stuck with it, i still really like his design.
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>>186784765
Yeah, I worded it weirdly, what I meant is it simply changed the straps on his boots to not look like amy's and the fur lining matches his gloves now
>>186784837
Holy shit I love this. Saved.
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>>186784450
i'd stick with a simpler design like >>186784765
said, maybe just some snow boots.
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>>186783720
Labyrinth
Wing Fortress
Carnival Night Act 1
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>>186784893
What type of bird is he even?
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>>186784960
Penguin, which is why he wears winter boots/gloves and a coat. The orange part on his head is based off rockhopper penguins
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>>186785024
He doesn't look like a penguin
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>>186784893
no problem anon! i genuinely really like what you've done with him. i really like the idea of an ice cream addiction too lol
meanwhile i'm here with a shitty hedgehog
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>>186785154
It's harder to do bird characters. The rogues don't really look like bird either
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>>186785190
Hey at least you're not stuck with my shitty cheetah girl
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>>186785263
But he looks nothing like the penguin you mentioned
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>>186785368
she's cute though! once the clothes were sorted out she honestly looked super cute.
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>>186785263
Too bad we're not discussing them. You want people to ask about your oc but put no love into it.
>>186785368
He could be better with more care
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>>186785559
I dunno, I was thinking about redoing the design. I'm still not sure about the clothes, I don't really like the purple and light blue.
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>>186785876
You should. Not to sound mean, but she looks like an American Gladiator contestant
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>>186786002
Yeah I know. She's getting a redo.
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>>186785876
i like her herself, but maybe a redesign on the clothes would be better. something more simple with browns/tan colours would work i think. give the clothes personality; make them compliment her as a character. the current ones just look generic really.
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>>186785692
I put care into my art, and I'm always willing to listen to feedback if it means getting better
What do you have in mind?
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>>186786002
>>186786075
Do you guys have any suggestions on what I could do with her? My tablet isn't working so unfortunately I can't scribble out ideas.
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What's the easiest big ring to find & farm? Having some trouble with special stage 6 and I just want my emeroods already before doing Knuckles & Tails' routes.
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Forces news when?
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>>186786369
IMO Chemical Plant is easiest. It's literally just hold right for 9-10 seconds, hold left for a few seconds, jump onto the thing blocking the pipe, jump in the pipe, hold left till you reach the junction, then hold right till you're at the ring. You can get there in under 30 seconds, and it's brain dead easy to do it.
I hear there's also another Ring nearby you can get to in less than 10 in game seconds, but I don't know where it is.
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>>186786509
Forces news this week.
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>>186786369
>>186786547
Studiopolis Act 1 is much closer to the start
https://streamable.com/9ajhd
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>>186786259
ignore them. her new clothes colors look great to me. good work anon. as for critique, you should make it more obvious what material the bracelets and anklets are made of. are they see through like glass or sshiny like polished metal?
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>>186786259
i mean, it all depends on the kind of personality you want to give her really.
if we go by main characters, cream's clothes are simple, cute and childish; she's a soft-hearted 6 year old.
rouge's outfit is a tightfitting catsuit with a heart on the front; it's flirty, yet practical for her job.
vanilla is traditional, and has a long-length skirt and blouse to show this.
blaze is formal, serious and fiery. her outfit is plain with hints of flair; her gloves and shoes truly make her outfit stand out and give it personality.
a character's clothes bring out the best in them; you need to think hard on your character's personality and reflect it in their outfit.
colours wise, i've said this before but it just has to work well and compliment. >>186786075

again that's just my two cents if you want to even take it seriously! i like her current design.
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>>186786602
I seriously hope, otherwise I'm gonna pray so somebody can FORCES the news out of them
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>>186786682
True, that the question was easiest, not fastest. Still looks pretty easy.
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>>186786369
I've been using Press Garden 1's first since you can get to it in under 30 seconds.
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>>186784949
>>186784765
I think I got it with this. Now they look like snow boots
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>>186786730
The bracelets would probably be metallish. Thank you for your compliments, they really mean a lot.

>>186786843
She's a grumpy little kitty who gets angry way too easily. Really introverted, but not edgy persay. More of an "I have fun but I don't show it often" type of character, know what I'm saying?

What would you suggest?
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>>186786080
Not your art, as that is subjective. I mean the character itself
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>>186787297
That's what I meant. I'll gladly listen to your feedback if it means better character design
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Not enough cute bunny robots.
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>>186787034
Try a little closer to this and lose the baby blue and duckling yellow. The outfit doesn't have to color coordinate
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>>186787374
*Yours or anyone else's.
Feedback is always good no matter where it comes from, unless it's intentionally malicious
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>>186787410
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>>186787485
He'd look boss af in those boots
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>>186787585
Nonono that's a rabbot, not a robot.
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>>186787034
nice! they look great.

>>186787123
yeah, i get you! the crop-top you have going works well, but maybe adding a punk-esque wardrobe to her if you're into it? like a nice jacket as well would work. i think with the gloves/shoes, maybe work with something simpler instead of the big bands. fingerless gloves and just some standard boots would look good, and maybe changing the leggings to something smaller like shorts (or a skirt, or removing them altogether) would be good too. i don't think it's too good to cover most of the body (apart from the midriff you have going there).
again this is your OC! if you've happy with it, stick with it. OCs change over time usually. and don't 100% take my word for it either, i'm merely suggesting.
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>Reading the Sonic comic, up to Worlds Unite
>Dunno where to find the Mega Man comic parts
Any help? Fighting tournament arc best arc btw.
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>>186788050
Don't bother, Worlds Unite is complete trash and writes itself out of canon. Just skip ahead to #276/U#79/B#11.
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>>186788050
readcomiconline to/Comic/Mega-Man
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Hey guys, since today is Doomsday, and according to /x/ demons will be liberated to posses us en mass, couldn't we dedicated next thread to Ibliss, Silver or Black Doom?
Also, music for our Apocalypse.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nfuv444YAxk
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>>186787938
Punk-esque? I dunno if I get what you're going for here. I'm way more of a visual learner, unfortunately.
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>>186784257
>Egg Spider
>hard
Are you retarded?
Oil Ocean 2 fucking sucks. You have no solid land half the time, instant crush platforms, the actual attacks of the boss are time wasters and trying to hit the damn thing will wombo combo you to death unless you spend five minutes killing both blaster pod things individually.
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>>186788232
I'll do just that then. Thanks.
Really wish Diana Skelly did more penciling in actual parts. I love how cartoony her expressions are.
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>>186788587
Amd then your rings go through the floor.
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>>186786547
>>186786682
>>186787006

Thanks anons.

>booking it through stages as super with electro shield

Haven't felt this jazzy in a long time.
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>>186787485
>>186787586
what color should the lace loops be?
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>>186788774
This. If you EVER get hit, you're screwed unless you already killed the blaster pods, because the blasts are timed that you cannot avoid them consistently after hitting the Octopus' weak point.

The blasters should have risen up from opposite sides of the screen, instead of right next to the boss, so you could stand a chance of singling them out.
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I really want to see more fan art of the Hard Boiled Heavies. Barely seen much of them and it makes me sad.
Did you also notice two of them are female?
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>>186788791
Wait, you can farm the Bonus Stage rings? How?
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>>186789063
Really? I thought they were going to be fan favorites from the start.
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>>186789162
Beat the game first.
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>>186789063
They're a great collection of bad guys (and girls). I'd actually love it if the IDW comics included them.
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>>186789232
We need a collage of all the eggbot-style baddies. Wish the bots from the first Riders got more love.
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>>186789063
Yeah, I only realised that too after checking the manual yesterday.
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>>186789162
Once you get the non-Super ending you just pick whichever stage has the quickest or easiest Ring to get to and quit the stage once you complete the minigame (assuming you don't want to go find whatever the second closest ring is).
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>>186789256
Ok dad
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>>186789232
Well EVERYONE likes the Heavies, no doubt. Unfortunately there isn't a lot of art of them floating around, other than the Gunner of course.
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>>186788950
gold. definitely gold
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>>186789483
Maybe drawing robots is kinda hard, wish it wasn't, badniks and mechas need more love.
Robots in general need more love.
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>>186789232
Badniks don't tend to get much fanart. That's reserved for animal characters and bots who's names start with Metal or Mecha.
Also classic fan's just don't make as much fanart that isn't "just Sonic running."
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>>186783423
Every Rouge cosplay attempt is sad as fuck. Also I don't know why these dumb bitches think white hair = old white woman
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>>186789596
how's this? made the green slightly brighter to fit in tone with the overall series artstyle
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>>186789790
too yellow green. try for more of a yellow orange
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>>186789643
If only I could draw more than sticks, I would like to draw and design mechanical beings, I love them so much, from 18th century automatons to nanomachines.
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>>186790057
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>>186790170
much better
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>>186790306
Thanks. Gonna go crash now. Been up since 2 am and I'm tired of looking at SAI
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>>186788504
no worries! and it's really up to your interpretation. i meant more rocker punk as opposed to Jpunk, like leather jackets and doc marten boots if you get me?
colour wise i'm starting to think the darker colours worked more.
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>>186790446
kek. have a good sleep anon
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>>186790446
Sleep well, anon.
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>>186783720

That boss is easy. Dodging the worm spike and the lasers is nothing. Then you just attack the Lava Reef spools while making sure not to stay in one spot, after which the body is completely helpless.
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>>186790170
How much do you know about your oc's species anon? Not all penguin are cold dwelling, especially rock hoppers
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>>186789063
i've made fan art of heavy magician but the proportions are shit
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>>186790826
It's more just an amalgamation of emperor with rockhopper.
But again, I stress, if you have any feedback that could help improve it, by all means. I've only just drawn him in the past couple of weeks. nothing is set in stone
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>>186790826
I have read of penguins appearing in Brazil coasts.
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I haven't been here in a while. Has anyone been posting theories on the Forces plot? I'm interested in what others have to say.
I also have my own theories I came up with while watching that damn Infinite trailer multiple times for reference to draw him.
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When are we getting news of Sonic Forces...
I hate it how the "true fans" of Sonic that only sucks the 2Dick got away with everything...
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>>186790493
Nice! The darker colors were what I wanted in the first place, even back when I first made her.
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>>186791003
You just pulled that out of your ass anon.he looks like neither species in the slightest unless we're talking Pokémon
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>>186790884
do you mind posting it?
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>>186791125
Thursday (or tomorrow)
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>>186791039
The only I remember reading here are Infinite is the personification of the Phantom Ruby, and some character will die at the end of the game. Also, Shadow may be evil, brainwashed or the confused Shadow from Adventure.
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>>186791217
Yeah... I just don't care anymore
Just let me have the 3D game, and I try to not be in places where traitors like the nostalgia faggots and 2D faggots are lurking just to say about their perfect game is perfect and we should stop playing 3D and actually believing that 3D games will stop
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>>186790826

I've rarely seen penguin characters not adhere to the usual cold-dwelling stereotypes, one of the species that doesn't would be neat,
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>>186791335
Argentina? As an Argie, am curious about the filename.
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>>186791189
I did mostly just throw him together with the vague notion that he's a penguin. I've never made an OC before, so I'm not really sure how to go about bringing ideas from said animals to the sonic artstyle
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>>186791335
But notice he's wearing winter gear
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>>186791326
Literally nobody is doing that right now, unless Sonic Forces is universally panned nobody is going to get on your case for liking a 3D games.
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>>186791335
>>186791504
En verdad preferiria Armadillo o Condor si hubiese mas especies
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>>186791652
>nobody is going to get on your case for liking a 3D games.
>anon doesn't know
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>>186791515
And you complain no one is acknowledging it with such weak inspiration behind the creation? Cmon now
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>>186791652
Welcome to /sthg/ enjoy your stay.
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>>186791675
Podés usar todas las especies que quieras, en esta serie hay de todo, Beto el Cóndor o Luis el Cuis no desentonarían, es más me encantaría ver fauna de acá en Sonic
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>>186791798
Alright maybe I'm exaggerating, but I don't really think you should be worried. So what if Sonic Mainia might be a bit better than force if it happens to be that way? If the new game is any good at all, we should be glad because that means that 3D Sonic games have a bit of potential left.
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>>186791952
Creo que a todos nos encantaria y honestamente con Forces, es posible que pase.
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>>186791870
I guess I came off as resentful, didn't I? That was definitely uncalled for, and I guess the only thing to do now is keep working at the design until it is good enough to talk about, huh?
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>>186791156
yeah, i remember you posting! the darker colours do work a lot better but the red bits would be better off being left out. everything else is great!
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>already completed a Sonic run and a Knuckles run in Mania
>already got all the Emeralds for both
>bored

Is there anything I can do to get something more out of Mania? And don't say a Tails run.
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>>186777924
We wouldn't be in this shithole if they literally just made Generations 2 with the same overall plot and tone as the first, but with different older levels than the first one. Attach a very simple basic plot and lighthearted tone and you got an easy win
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>>186792186
A Tails run.
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>>186792186
Knuckles &Knuckles
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>>186792186
Blue Spheres
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>>186792186
How about you just run it like a classic game. Game Over? Start from the very beginning again.
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>>186792095
Por fin Sonic tendrá el héroe que merece, Zenón el Tero
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>>186791326
>traitors
You're a fucking joke.
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who /eclipse/ here
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>>186791189
>>186792113

ignore this person anon, sonic-wise he's as penguin as you're gonna get. i honestly think he works well design wise. hell, knuckles looks fucking nothing like an echidna.
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>>186792013
This. Personally speaking I don't care if Mania is a bit better than Forces, because I still think I'm still looking forward to both games. If some people prefer one over the other I don't mind, so long as they aren't cunts.
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>Mania has little to nothing known about its levels
>"Oh gee, I'm sure glad they're avoiding spoilers"
>Forces has little to nothing known about its levels
>"This game must clearly be unfinished if they haven't revealed anything so close to launch. It needs a delay and it needs one now."
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>>186792449
He a good boy, only want to feed his siblings, with us.
Next thread should be in his honor.
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>>186792695
Maybe it's because modern sonic games pretty much spoiled themselves before released to begin with? I mean they did sort of show off quite a bit from their last few games, right?
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>>186777714
>3 hours around
That's what I hate of the late 3D game, don't get me wrong, I love them but Sonic 3D were usually 10+ hours as far I remember and the bosses weren't 3 hit only.
>>186792410
Je.
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>>186792476
Shiggy diggy. It's people like you that create internet terrors in the fandom
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*blocks your path*
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>>186792695
>>Mania has little to nothing known about its levels
and the things we did see looked great
>>Forces has little to nothing known about its levels
and the things we've seen so far look like dogshit
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>>186792695
By e3:
Mania we officially knew there was Green Hill, Chemical Plant, Studiopolis, Mirage Saloon, and Flying Battery
Forces we officially knew there was Green Hill and Park Avenue

Not saying that I think Forces is unfinished, and I'm surprised ST were willing to hype up Mania more than Forces. But as of right now, since Mania's out now, they better not show off anything disappointing for Forces since we went how long without any information about the game besides the plot?
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>>186793119
>classicfags
>>
I mean
>Sonic Mania has a lot of show with the levels, Green Hill, Bosses, Studiopolis, a lot of sneak peek
What do we have with Forces though?
>only two levels, characters and fucking trailers without any gameplay shit
At least we got enough edge TO BE INFINITE which I honestly love
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>>186791504

The character comes from a game called Fur Fighters, which gave every playable character a home country. His was Argentina.

Despite the game name, it's not really a furry game as everyone is a stuffed animal toy.
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>>186793215
nah, I like Unleashed and Generations a lot, but Forces looks like garbage in comparison to those
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>>186793296
Literally how
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>>186793071
Eggman's robots must be eliminated
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Anyone else slightly disappointed by the true final boss or is it just me?

The fight itself just seemed lackluster to me. I beat it just by doing the standard "avoid boss them jump on it a couple times", just with the added task of walking around a bit for rings to keep super up. The fact that you could fly and airdash during that fight was cool and I'd like to be able to do it in regular stages too but in the end I stayed on the ground because it was easier to control and the airdashes used up way more rings than I was getting. Just seems like a waste do be able to do that cool stuff in the final stage only where it's actually more effective not to, and it's really a shame that the optimal way to beat the boss is the less fun method because I really enjoyed the creativity of the previous boss fights like the hydrocity eggmobile one.
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>>186792695
Well personally speaking, Mania did show off far more than they should've. I don't think Forces is unfinished at all, but it is kinda odd that they've shown so little.

>>186793296
I highly disagree, especially with Generations
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>>186793341
I don't really know how to accurately describe it, but something just feels off or lacking in Forces
the gameplay seems to be Colours-slow too (technically still fairly fast but slower than Unleashed/Gens)
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>>186777197
I want to but I think it's during the middle of my class.

I'd like to see >>186777324 done though.
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Why do powerlevel wankers always overrate Super Sonic so much? Eggman restrained him with a measly machine, and now not only Solaris but also the Heavy King have shown that they can damage him directly.

Yeah Super Sonic has very high defense but he's not invulnerable and seems to rather easily restrained.
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>>186793796
Thanks for fucking spoilering me about Heavy King asshole
Also, Super Sonic is high invencible but there are tech where one can bypass those side effects.
Kinda like Fate Go and how some attacks says FUCK YOU to Invincible and Evade
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>>186793421
No, it's pretty fucking lame and I'm not looking forward to it.
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>>186782134
T-Thanks Sonic.
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>>186791039
Besides Mania being a crossover with Forces, what that means for Infinite, what world Forces takes place in, are the returning villains their normal forms or are they copies/older versions of them, and whether or not Tails will act like a crybaby/asshole at some point, most of the speculation seems pretty empty. The idea that Forces might take place in a virtual space due to all of the glitches was interesting, but now that Mania seems to be connected that all seems less likely.
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I can't believe Tails is fucking dead
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>>186794482
bad ending too much?
please
try harder
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THE SUN JUST WENT OUT
WTF IS GOING ON
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>>186794469
Another mystery is where Modern Sonic was when Eggman took over. We know Classic Sonic is warped into Forces, and Avatar is a civilian, but how does Modern Sonic factor into these events besides being missing?
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>>186794482
captcha: calle hilltop
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>>186794571
Go outside and take a look.
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>>186792186
Take a break, anon.
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>>186782039
But nobody cares about what Spazkid has to say.
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>>186794571
Are you sure?
Try looking straight at it, maybe you'll see it.
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>>186793421
It was definitely not a stand out fight in the game. I was hoping you'd fight the Titanic Monarch itself, and it would be a fight with lots of flying around this giant thing. Instead it was a fight with more projectiles than usual, but with a constant ring safety net.
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>>186794571
Who turned off the sun?
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>>186794571
FIRST HE BLOWS UP HALF OF THE MOON, NOW THE SUN, WHEN DOES IT END, EGGMAN?
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>all those deleted post of Honey and watersports
wew
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>>186752092
I'd rather have a Sonic the Fighters sequel with this cutie.
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>>186796862
>Hayakain
Kill it with fire
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>>186796730
I wonder if mania opened the gateway to fan projects becoming official. I'd do degrading things for some good spinoffs
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IM HEARING LOUD TRUMPETS
WHAT THE FUCK
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>>186797183
huh?
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>>186797183
RUN ANON

FUCKING RUN
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>>186796862
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>>186796936
>I wonder if mania opened the gateway to fan projects becoming official.
I hope not. Just because it worked with Mania, doesn't mean we need more by others. It might just get the wrong people into making terrible official content and dragging down the franchise again.
Or do you really want vulnerable Sonic?
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>>186797369
(you)
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>>186796936
Mania only happened because Taxman proved himself with multiple remakes. Sure he pulled in some less proven fan talent, but he was always going to be held accountable for the end result. We're not going to see Sega pick up a fangame, or make someone a lead dev who hasn't worked in the industry before.
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>>186796935
>>186797291
It's funny how his very old shit looks way better. And it's hilarious when he tells artists who have range to do something new once in a while.
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>>186797183
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jEzvc4OTkIo
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>>186797947
Neither look good
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>>186797918
>Sure he pulled in some less proven fan talent
And even that fan talent has had years of professional experience. It's not like they hired random NEETs from the Retro forums.
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>>186797947
please tell me pic related isn't supposed to be the "way better old shit" you're talking about
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>>186798472
>>186798572
Don't get me wrong, it's still shit, but he took more effort with that old style.
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>>186796730
I'd pay a fair amount of money for that. Honey is nice.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNxrS4F_HwM
youtube lyrics
"Check the mic 'cause I rap and I'm back yeah.
Roll up, perform, straight up storm the castle.
I'm a black belt, I have no fatigue.
Out of your league, won't you please keep your feet up, go, flee.
Check out my moves, check out my speed. (Come at me.)
Goin' fast with these doctors(?) on my feet.
I live in the fast track, you're getting in my way.
I carry the day. (Hey, hey.)"


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0Vh1qiP4Sg
youtube lyrics
Evil doctor with a mad genius and rad minions
Who'll help you save the planet?
I see you acting like you've never seen
I'm the greatest fighter that's ever been on your screen
I'm iconic, with my bionics & animatronics
I'll crush that hedgehog they call Sonic
Fabled and iconic, my mustache of fire
Welcome to the new rule/world of the Eggman Empire
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>>186797947
That looks awful. Please tell me no one paid real money for this
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>>186799791
aw man that's actually fucking awesome

this still makes me mad that Sonic CD got dope remixes while most the other stages aren't all that different sounding outside of the new instruments
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>>186799791
>character rap themes are back
Thank ya jebus
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The thing that makes Fist Bump sound like a Youtube cover to me is that it sounds like the instrumental version was recorded first and then the lyrics later, unlike what Crush 40's songs sound like
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>listening to Egg Reverie because it sticks out from the rest of the soundtrack and I keep getting a weird feeling I've heard it before
>realize the part a minute in is the Sonic Forces theme refrain

DON'T
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>>186800351
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xddu4wUWUhE
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What's the best way to play taxman sonic 1/2 on pc?
Right now I'm using bluestacks to emulate it. I have to use joy2key also if I want to use a controller and in general it's not ideal despite being emulated more or less perfectly.
Is there anything better?
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>>186800351
Crush 40 is, ironically, getting too old. The last really good track they put out for Sonic was Straight Through Gravity.
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>>186800351
>>186800470
I like Fist Bump. It's full of pep and friendship.
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>>186800470
Hebby a cute
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>>186800573
Crush 40 is just Jun + Johnny. Johnny is still going strong with Axel Rudi Pell and Jun can still go. Not getting too old at all.
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I'm kinda bummed out, /x/ promised me a rad apocalypse, where demons came out of the eclipse like in Shadow the Hedgehog opening.
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>>186800510
Sounds awfully familiar to his anniversary livestream performance
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>>186796936
honestly, SEGA should just do an official SAGE to completely endorse fan projects
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>>186801015
Not doing what Nintendo does already does a lot. They shut down fangames to avoid having amateurs embarrass them by doing a better job.
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SONIC FORCES NEWS WHEEEEN
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>>186800551
You could get an Apple TV and a compatible controller, then play Taxman Sonic 1 and 2 on your TV.
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What would Sonic the Hedgehog: the Collectable Card Game play like?
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>>186801103
except they shut down the streets of rage remake when it was finished and ready on bullshit grounds of it competing with the mobile ports of streets of rage
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>>186801314
>Realise something for no profit
>Legal action
America was a mistake
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I imagine I'm super late with this but:
>Fucking Vector in Sanic Boom
Nani the fuck?!
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>>186801103
according to reggie, they "went after" AM2R because it was "becoming" more like a "commercial product"

while it's stupid because AM2R was free and no plan to be one, i feel it was some PR excuse to scrub away hatred to Samus Returns
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>>186801103
>This is what /v/ truly believes.
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>>186801535
>>186801564
AM2R makes "Samus Returns" look like a fucking joke.
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>>186801297
i had the collection of cards from the Sonic X card game
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>>186800470
gro too frar manrira tream
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>>186801741
it's gonna flop so not much of a lost cause
that mean Sakamoto can fuck off entirely from the series
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>>186801478
Makes sense to me.
>why should I buy the official release if I can have a good fanmade version for free?
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Which is the better method of entering special stages, get x rings and get to the end/to a checkpoint, or find giant rings hidden within the stage?
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>>186801990
What's sad is to see the people desperate for literally anything that went from calling Nintendo shit after experiencing AM2R to immediately fellating them just because Samus Return is "Something", not because it's actually good or anything.

>>186802060
Giant Rings
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My eyes are burning. Is this normal?
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>>186802060
Probably finding the Giant Rings, it encourages exploring the gargantuan worlds that are S3/SM's levels without completely killing everything by making you explore too much like Sonic Advance 2.

But in terms of which is the most "fun" method, I'd say Sonic Rush. You jump on a thing and then boost yourself so fast you tear open a hole in the universe.
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>>186802060
Red rings but only with the red rings being exclusive to the upper paths, so in order to unlock a special stage you have to master the main stage.
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>>186801992
Good. Companies can die if their product is inferior to fan made free stuff.
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>>186802306
Totally.
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>>186802574
except all that does is burden the company with competing with a free product that was made in spare time. it's very unfair in my opnion
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>>186802239
>>186802574
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>>186802324
>>186802260
See, I actually think that getting 50 rings is better, because it doesn't punish flying through stages quickly. Exploring is cool and all, but I get super neurotic about it.

>>186802356
This sounds terrible; sonic's replay value is based around trying out multiple paths, and punishing that seems really dumb
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>>186802894
>Knuckles crushing Sonic out of his misery because they can't afford Chaos crystal treatment
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I didn't realize Jon Gray did some variant covers for the Archie Sonic reboot. I won't say he's perfect but wow he's improved since The Slap
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>>186803073
Sonic's replay value is based around getting good at a level so you can speed run it. The multiple paths are just traps for players who are new and/o bad.
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>>186803168
It's like people don't realize that the style used for the slap and that period were mandated by editors hungry for weaboo money.
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>>186803168
It can't be understated how cancerous Archie's editorial was before Pellerito. One of the reasons why art sucked so badly was because Gabrie wanted everything to look like shitty anime knockoffs.
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>>186802868
>Whole team of people during a 40+ workweek
>1-5 people trying to schedule in game drv time around the rest of their life.
Totally unfair
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>>186803475
So basically most of the artists were being pushed into unfamiliar territory, much like that one guy who got pulled on board to draw Sonics during Worlds Unite?
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>>186802324
Yeah the tokens really killed the exploration in Advance 2. I don't think I ever got more than 1 Emerald in 2.
Would have been better if clearing the stage with each character got you an Emerald or something.
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>>186800470
It's the exact same fucking song.

www.dropbox.com/home?preview=This+was+probably+intentional+but+fuck+it.mp3
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>>186803593
>a fangame spanning many years of development made for free by diehard nerds
> a corporation that must pay millions of dollars to its slaves to create something of equal value that may or may make back the initial investment

totally (un)fair
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During the synchronized solar eclipse meditation we were told to visualize the Earth healing itself and humans living harmoniously with each other but instead I visualized Forces being good. I hope the crazy woo woo chaos magic is real and my wish comes true
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>>186804496
If your business needs to spend millions of dollars (and it doesn't, game marketing budgets have been massively inflated for years) to get professionals to produce what nerds could make in their basement, fuck your business. Hire the goddamn nerds. It's exactly what Sega did and it worked splendidly for them.
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>tfw no gf to do a knuckles & knuckles playthrough with for shits & giggles
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https://twitter.com/sonic_hedgehog/status/899672582923866113

God damn it Aaron.
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>>186804496
And 85% of content in the vast majority of fangames was made by those companies years ago.
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Red echidnas can't jump.
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>>186804421
i cannot view this, anon
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>>186805204
Shiet.

www.dropbox.com/s/2iqdbqxmx2srfnr/This%20was%20probably%20intentional%20but%20fuck%20it.mp3?dl=0

Try now.
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Does Egg Reverie outdo Doomsday Zone?
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Knuckles is the type of guy tostare at an eclipse with his naked eyes, like "I don't need special glasses", and then end up blind afterwards.
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>>186805698
I prefer Doomsday, more challenging and is a wonderful culmination marking the first Super Sonic boss. Don't get me wrong though, Egg Reverie is an entertaining extra boss, maybe a bit too easy; the tag team was a nice part of it as well.
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>tfw had a dream that they announced more levels for Sonic Forces
>It was fucking Oil Ocean again and Windmill Isle
>The writers were talking about all this stupid shit which seemed to heavily imply that the writing was going to be just as bad as Lost World's and then they said "If you didn't like it it's just your fault for playing a game for children"
>Someone makes a post that the game is just going to be like Mania with returning levels and a few new ones except worse
I-is this a bad omen?
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>>186806314
You've just got an active subconcious, I wouldn't worry about it.
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I don't get the super final boss.
It's so boring and feels like it's pure luck.
Is there even a strategy other than "dodge and hope you clip him and hope you get enough rings"?
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I'm at max Lures and these 2000g+ fuck fishes are still hard to catch in SA1. I don't know if my technique is wrong or what.
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>>186806449
Not really, nah. I was disappointed too.
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>>186799791
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>>186806625
>fishing
>SA1
Absolute Madman
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>>186796730
>I'd rather have a Sonic the Fighters sequel with this cutie.
This. But I would want Honey to resemble her comic design like in that image(boots instead of high heels and no shoulder pads).
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>>186806649
What a shame. It's such a let down after how fun the boss before it was.
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>>186806449
It was pretty straightforward for me.
1. Dodge King's shots.
2. Hit him when he's empty.
3. Eggman always throws his arms out 3-4 times, after that he's wide open.
4. Repeat.
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>twitter at 3.2 million followers
>follower count keeps rising
Will it stop at some point?
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>>186806957
He gets orbs right after he's empty.
I figure that small period is when you dash in, that's how I ended up doing it,but all I'm saying is it's so dull.
Doesn't help that if you game over you gotta do all of Titanic monarch again.
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>>186793071
*Team Blast*
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>>186804636
>praying to Kek
You'd think people would have realized by now that nothing good comes of it
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>>186807323
the fight itself is a tad dull but dammit the atmosphere is great

and don't get me started on the theme which totally doesn't have fist bump in it
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>>186807323
I dashed in when he only had one left, or none, that was the most reliable method. The fight being fairly basic didn't surprise me, I was expecting that sort of thing.
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>>186807769
That one on the far left is the only one that even looks remotely passable.
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New thread?
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>>186808392
No. Let it die.
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People think Forces is gonna have more old zones? I don't think so. In Custom Hero's Green Hill, Knuckles mentions keeping the crab robot from reaching Chemical Plant, and you stop said crab robot. So why would you go to Chemical Plant then?
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>>186807769
the red head was a real qt in naruto
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>>186808731
so Sonic Team can reuse more Generations assets
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>>186808890
If they were actually reusing Generations assets Green Hill wouldn't look like such shit in Forces.
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>>186801123
Gamescom nigga
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>>186809068
Its probably unfinished in the promotional shots anon. We've seen that all the time in Sonic. So even if they are gonna end up using Generations assets they may not have had it in final render.
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>>186808731
You're right, but the Sonic fanbase is too fucking stupid to comprehend this.
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dead thread
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>>186809541
I'd be fine with a Generations 2, if it stopped repeating the SAME zones that have done to death. Grab some zones that nobody remembers or deserve some more love, or even areas that haven't shown up in a traditional Sonic game (Babylon Garden from Riders would be incredible, or areas from the storybook games)
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>>186809778
Same, honestly.
I'd love Mystic Cave, Metal Harbor, Hang Castle, Dragon Road, and Aquarium Park.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LAsVTzddlw
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i will bake new bread
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>>186810258
already done anon

>>186810292
>>186810292
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So what do we expect for this week?

>New levels reveal
>New bosses
>more playable characters
>FUCKING NOTHING
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>>186808731
Park Avenue for the custom character has the characters cheer on the OC, to make your self-insert look extra good. So Silver and co are gonna fuck up when going to Chemical Plant in Forces, requiring your OC to save the day. It's a trend in games with custom characters or even games without such a creator in general for the player to be special. The confirmed connection between Mania and Forces argueably makes this even more likely.
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>>186810063
I want to see the Advance levels get some love, especially Ice Paradise, Music Plant or Hot Crater
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