/eftg/ - Escape from Tarkov General

First for discord is for fags.

>>186749025
second for discord isnt for fags

>>186748970
>tfw we're already dead
Thanks for remaking the thread and fixing the OP up a bit.

Third for discord is for fags. Notice how last thread died? That's because of discordfaggots detracting conversation from the actual thread.

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Please stop defending and attacking the Discord bullshit and just talk about the game.

>>186749758
Because of people bringing it up negatively so much. It was made so we could group up and communicate, I honestly don't see the issue with that.

>>186749758
So far you're the only one who had to start talking about it.

>>186750342
>Two out of three posts before mine have the word discord in it
>OP has the word discord in it

Okay, buddy. Enjoy your discord and your dead thread.

>it's a virgin complains about discord because secretly he doesn't want people to hear his screechy, whiny, nasally voice episode

Seen this episode before senpai

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AK12 soon fellow PMCs.

>>186750845
Yay more 74 shit instead of AKM's I'm so excited!!!

>>186750845
>karma system.
>scavs have karma
>scav karma is magically connected to PMC karma.

Just fucking give us some anomalies and mutants if you're going to toss reality right out the window like that and cave in to casual scum.

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>Guy with makarov and no gear runs up to me
>Hit him twice center mass with saiga
>He runs off after mag dumping and not hitting me
>keep moving through forest
>See him again
>he runs up to me
>hit him three more times center mass
>not so much as a flinch
>3 makarov rounds break my left arm and kill my left leg
>take one more shot headshotting him
>he goes down

>next match bring Ak because I'm not dealing with shotshell memes
>spawn in
>head left
>see guy
>shoot
>he turns around
>every shot he fires makes my game micro freeze
>die because I cant track him through the freezes

what the fuck is with my luck tonight man

>>186748970
Good op, this should be the standard.
Also gamescom cant come soon enough.

>>186750845
>not ak-15
you had one fucking job

>>186751001
Yeah I'm waiting for that AKM to come in too. I kinda wanna see the AN-94 come in with it's two round burst working right.

>get some decent looking PVP on Shoreline
>kill three players in the hills near the gas station, one player scav, one hatchling, and one who looks somewhat geared
>turns out he had a shitty AK and didn't have the helmet I thought he did at first
BUT
>head toward extraction
>lone Scav way down on the marina before lighthouse
>try to headshot him with PSO on my AK but there's so much glare on that fucking thing that I whiff the shot and need to hit him a few more
>get to his body
>he had a helmet
Everything worked out in the end

>>186749059
LOOOSERRR

>>186749025
>>186749758
If you don't want to use discord I made a Teamspeak.
162.251.164.114:10045

>When /trash/ has more sense than /eftg/

If it's in closed beta, what's there even to say about it?

>>186763058
Shitposting, sharing stories, asking for advice, yada yada.

>>186763058
>>186763194
Also this kind of garbage.
>>186730873

How closed a beta is it? Is it just an early access deal that you need to buy?

Went to woods last night with nothing but f1 grenades.

Threw one made at a dude I saw in some trees, run the fuck away to avoid the insanely huge blast radius.
Looted a silenced sks with pso and a fully kitted ak. Sprint straight for the exit managed to make it out. The stats screen showed that I killed 3 lvl 31-50 USEC's didn't even see the other fuckers. F1 nades are so retardedly op

>>186764619
Don't know what you mean by that, but it's $45 to play right now, and if you really love it you can always upgrade to a higher package.
t. EoD Goyim

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>>186765154
>Went to woods last night with nothing but f1 grenades.
I kind of want to try this.
>running around with an axe tossing nades at whichever fucker I see

>>186765320
I looted about 4 fully kitted guys yesterday just from doing this on woods.
Funny as fuck

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>just got my first cheeki crown on a guy watching bots run around
Sorry anon, thanks for the shitty saiga.

>>186764619
Character wipes are in effect & I've been hearing that they WILL be closing it prior to release, but I don't know when.
It's been going a couple weeks now.

>>186765925
Why would he run around without a reciever?
Works just as well & gets you more skier rep?

Do you get XP from examining store-inventory items?
Or is it best to only examine in the field?

>>186766203
You mean the dust cover?

>>186766298

I think you get xp for examining store items, I mean it pops up at the bottom so I assume it does

>sells the tokarev & the more-expensive ammo for it
>doesn't sell extra mags
Well I guess I know why everyone uses the mak.

>>186767768
I managed to loot a couple of tokarevs and about 6 mags off dead scavs, I'm hesitant to take the tokarev out on a raid because the mags are so much harder to come by

>>186767768
>>186768626
You can buy a tokarev take the mag out and sell it back, if you're in a pinch.
I always insure my mags and put them in pocket and not a vest, as most players rarely search pockets.
you'll get them back 70% of the time

>>186755542
I hope the AKM is cheap like the AK74s and get them super solid rapid fire 7.62 Soviets on people.

>>186765320
This happened to me. Saw a hatchet, friendly wiggled at him figure I give him some mercy.

Bitch tosses a grenade at my feet. No idea how I survived at all but 3 of my 4 limbs were completely destroyed. I went prone. He comes out thinking he scored big I guess and gets a consolation prize of a full mag of 5.45mm to the chest.

I hunkered down until I was pretty sure all the other players had left woods and then limped my ass to the exit.

>>186768769
>buy & sell back
God bless the Gamma, can just park the mags in there.
Still expensive, ammo too.
But it beats the dick gun & it's cheaper than a 226 & maybe the grach.

>>186771451
I meant like buy the gun remove the magazine, then sell the gun back.

>spawn in as scav on shoreline, immediately under fire from other scav
>bamboozle him by running behind a gas tanker but immediately popping out the same side and nailing him with a few Grach shots while he is looking at the other side
>score, this faggot had a AKS
>get popped in the side of the head by another human scav

seriously what the fuck, do people really want a bandage and a pistol that badly instead of actually looting crates and PMC

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>>186748970
>shoreline map
>nobody has added the haybales as a landmark

REE

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l-lmao

>>186776291
>eft will have limited edition near release
What did they mean by this?

>>186776364
irl grizzly first aid and a Grach that is a flashlight

lul

>>186776472
Or a clock that's always 3 minutes behind.

>>186776857
gaming balaclava

>>186777002
I'd wear it.

>>186776364
What if we alreadt fuggin bought the game

>>186777109
then you get to buy the game twice

>>186777109
You can upgrade your "pledge" IIRC.

Dead game dead thread

>tfw aim down sights
>tfw get a marker and draw on my monitor
>tfw cheating and I can never be detected

eheh

Who else is still gonna kill everyone on sight when karma system is out? That shit looks retarded.

>>186784581
yea like what the fuck lol. I need the loot and you have the loot so I'm going to kill you. It's a doggy dog world.

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>>186784581
Not me because I'm not a nigger

>>186787237
enjoy trying to wiggle back while I headshot you with my makarov after my bait wiggle

>>186785914
Sick memeing brah. More like why is the karma system going to magically cause weapon jamming? Why is Scav karma a thing when the faction is basically a bunch of backstabbing bandits? Why does Scav karma translate to my PMC's karma?

And how the fuck is target identification going to work at longer distances? It's not like you can easily make out what color shirt someone's wearing beneath a backpack, chest rig, and body armor from distance.

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>>186787363
>he can't PID from 1km out

>>186787363
retcon the lore

we are all augmented and chipped so we can detect who is allied and who isn't with friendly fire still on through robot eyes.

its the year 20270

I bought this like a week ago and it seemed like i got scammed hard.
>none of my encounters with other players involved us being able to hit eachother until possibly minutes afterwarward if at all.
>containers have fuck all in them
>looks like ass
Where do i even extract? I don't understand.

>spawn factory grach scav
>quick double head shot 2 people while on the catawalks up stairs
>get 360 no scoped by some random guy
>game says I had 3 assault rifle kills

so this is the power of unity

>>186788087
this is every new players experience. Trust me the 5 games you played just now, you are going to look back at them and all the flaws of this game and just laugh. You're going to stick to the game even with all the shitty desync and unplayable lag because no other game compares and its obvious what the devs need to do but you aren't sure if the devs are going to do them but there is that chance.

trust me my guy just stop playing the game now or you are going to go full russian and enjoy playing a broken game. Other wise look at the maps in the OP to find the extract points.

>tfw just got a helmet from insurance
BASED. Must have been from a shoreline game I had yesterday where I almost wiped a 4-man squad solo. Got three of them, and almost had the fourth, but we were at close range, and he had a saiga. Guess he either bled out after I blasted the shit out of him or died to scavs later on.

>tl;dr
Always get insurance

>tfw stash is basically full despite not hoarding anything that's easily purchasable
Hideouts fucking wheeeeeeeen? Alternatively, more easily purchased helmets and buyable PSO compatible SKS variants when?

>>186790143
>buy 10 makarovs
>always get them back from insurance for 5% of the price because no one picks them up
>use makarovs for factory runs to get quick ak47us and shotguns to sell for quick profit to do everything else in the game

literally infinite money

>>186790340
Best part is the Mak is one of the better handguns in the game. It shits on people with the right ammunition.

>>186749025
this

>went through all of my makarovs and then my TT;s and now have grachs left for farming equipment
>check ammo
>they 9x19 only deals 30 something damage

what the fuck is the grach a meme. I could just use a makarov and deal double damage but half the ammo in the clipazine. Is it even worth having 18 ammo and a flashlight or should I just sell it to buy TTs or makarovs. Did the devs fuck up or are we getting better ammo for this meme weapon in gamescon update. It makes sense for the kline since its full auto.

>>186790527

I don't understand why 9x19 is so vastly inferior currently. Why run a grach or p226 if the TT and mak just shit over them damage wise?

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>>186790143
>>186790340
>>186790527
>checking messenger for insured items
>just got 12+ makarovs back along with a PACA
A L W A Y S
G E T
I N S U R A N C E

>decide to use grach anyway
>miss hatchling but have 18 ammo sO I was able to kill him even with my shitty aim
>another hatchling comes at me and I hit him 3 times and he just touches me and I'm dead

hatch nerf fucking when. Thats not how hatches fucking work in real life ree.

>>186791702

I almost want to try to get mastery on the P226 to be a gun hipster and webm the new animations, but Jesus Christ its way too expensive for what you get.

>Fence is such a jew that he'll sell you the paper boxes for ammo, without any ammo

>>186792474
You get new animations when your gun mastery goes up?

>>186796182

Yeah, at least that's the intention. I'm not sure if the animations are currently implemented (I believe they are), but basically mastery gives you new animations that are more or less faster as well as when you do that checking your ammo button, it'll give you a more exact number.

>>186798216
Sorry anon, those features are not in yet.

I really hope they find a way around the unity issue with fps drops when scoping in because dropping down to 30 fps when I try to snipe someone is awful.

>>186801404
>>186798216
This is just getting me more excited. I hope that Battlestate starts releasing some major updates after gamescom. The "beta" update was very underwhelming.

>>186807591
The games honestly barely any different from alpha.

>>186807591
>>186808530

The only difference from alpha to beta was the addition of half of the shoreline map.

>>186807591
Same anon, i keep going back to the 2016 video. Just knowing they have the features in "working" order gets me rock hard.

>trader doesn't sell the best 9x18 ammo at level 2
>trader doesn't sell infinite of the second best and its actually sold out

REEE MY MAKAROV RUNS

>>186812498
Oh man I just watched that again. I hope they manage to implement all of that.

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Join woods with just meds and nades.
leave with pic related

>>186814920
>gamma case

>>186815663
Jelly of my autism edition

Got a squad wipe on some newbies chillin by lighthouse extraction on Shoreline. I had heard shots (it was them killing the scavs) when I was near the grenade case between gas station and bus stop and started sprinting over immediately. Was pretty surprised to find a whole team. Honestly, I fucked up near the end with that guy in the back and should have taken a lot of damage if not been killed by him. I was looking under the fence not where he was at first, which is why I didn't spot him when I should have.

https://webmshare.com/B7nmx

I need to just make a youtube account and start uploading these videos so I can leave 'em in 1080p with sound on and stuff.

>>186818416
wew lad

>>186822540
I just keep posting this shit to keep the thread alive and hopefully see other people's footage.

>>186823776
ill post somethingif i ever do something worth posting
my last run was just a 26 minute run where i didnt fight anyone

Would you wonderful faggots say that this game is worth it right now? Can you play with friends? Can one at least get...20 hours of enjoyment in it's current state?

>>186826159
That depends on you and whether or not the game looks appealing to you. I've gotten a solid 50 or so hours out of it in the last couple weeks, and I'm sure I'll be getting a lot more. Yes, you can play with friends, but you don't spawn all together and there's nothing to distinguish your friends from your enemies besides good communication.

>>186826159
Also, keep in mind, that it's not really a beta as there are a LOT of features still missing from the game. The biggest change from alpha to beta was the addition of half of a map and nerfed availability of the OP Fort armor.

>>186826159
I got it when it was on sale for like 30

At first I thought I made a mistake but then I played it myself and its basically gambling and FPS combined. I'm getting value out of it and will most likely keep playing it because no other fps game gets emotion out of me. Between having to use sound instead of a mini map and a shotgun shot or grenade going off in absolute quietness scaring the fuck out of you and making your heart race or the rage of dying so you losing another of your favorite weapon is pretty good.

If you aren't convinced from what you can look up and read about or from videos to see its features then you should wait. desu just wait for the next sale or the next content update during gamescon. The tarkov segment isn't until the 23rd. They will probly put up another sale for like a week for gamescon.

>>186826159
If you do end up getting it, be prepared to get shit on until you get good. There's a steep learning curve, but if you're good at FPS games, you'll catch on pretty quick.

>>186826404 >>186826531 >>186826568
It already has the interest. So there's like a local voice chat or are you stuck to using outside programs to talk to other people? Well hopefully soon I'll get this fuggin job and be able to get it while it's on sale. I feel like I need something radically different that what I'm used to. Plus some of the stories I read here can be funny and seem pretty intense.

>>186826846
No local voice chat. its insanely easy to confuse your friends that you grouped up with and accidentally kill them because there are only like 4 different character models or something and you can't directly chat and friendly fire is always on. Although they are working on cosmetic update which I assume is changing your clothes. Alternatively you can do something like havbe your friends wear some kind of visible equipment like the superman cap and glasses or some kind of combination that makes it obvious that its your bro.

desu the game is a skeleton right now and you'll get de sync/lag issues like every fourth raid. Even with this I'm getting value out of it. I just like it because I feel like I shitposting this game into creation. Always butthurt as fuck that I can't put slugs and buck shots into my shotgun in the order of my choosing. Like I can have a shotgun in every other game and its just a shotgun with buckshot and thats it. No interaction with the types of ammo, or slugs, and when you reload you reload the entire clip while having them magically carry to the next clip. Like the actual clip being an actual object is such a step up.

desu just the entire way this game handle shotgun just btfos every other fps game out there. Its basically EVE online but the FPS version.

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am i bad or

>>186829637
desu that guy prob heard you and was already pointing at the doors. There was too much room for him to react. I mean sure his model was bugged but you can't say thats the reason you died. I believe you would have been killed first anyway.

you did a double take desu

>>186829856
yeah but im still sure i hit him though
and if thats a bugged model and not an actual flick thats not fair either

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do the scavs always spawn like this on factory? this was a few minutes into the round
i shouldve died

>>186830959
sorry m8 but pistols always win

>>186831883
they are loot pinatas now which doesn't matter since you lose it when you die to death

>>186832058
this is true
i just beat a guy with a fully decked out ak-74n with 1 bullet to his head
i didnt get it on film though because i didnt realise id actually killed him until i got closer more than a minute later :(
>>186832351
i got out though?? free loot

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>>186831883
Scav AI is pretty iffy. Sometimes they still 360 noscope you with a makarov, and other times they're like in your webm.

Unrelated webm. Just testing a couple things

>>186750238
I need to learn how to perfect the art of the airburst grenade.

>>186790702
I don't even know how they have it where 9x18 is doing more than 9x19.

>>186836878
prob because the kedr/kline exist. It works for them. The grach has flashlight and ammo capacity so its pretty good at anti hatchling. Its just the price of the grach needs a nerf desu. It's a good pistol alternative to the others. Makarov is cheap and the weakest. TT has silence potential and is easier to obtain than the mythical makarov and the grach has more ammo cap but its like 3 times the price where the TT is only like a 30% increase.

Though it is the most common scav spawn weapon so I can see it being literal loot fodder since it would be a HUGE hit to spawn as a scav and get a grach and try to cash out with it when you could have rolled a shotgun or ak47u. I think making the flashlight attachment hold more of the value would balance this better so you could still get similar value out of direct scav spawn cashouts since they spawn with the attachment and still have the grach be a value pistol for its pros and cons.

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>>186837525
I mean, in reality the 9mm just hits harder so I don't see why it's just not simply reflected as such. What's so hard about turning down the 9x18 damage or turning up the 9mm Para so that it's more reflective of how those cartridges actually compare to one another? I mean, 9mm Parabellum has anywhere from 10-30% more energy than the Makarov, did some dev also fall for the '9mm is pussy rounds' meme?

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Friendly reminder that all that grass around you doesn't render in for people who are, like, 50+ meters away.

>>186839173
just a beta guys

this is always a problem with shooters that take place in big outdoorsy areas

>>186839173
are you pointing out objectively true flaws in my favorite game

reeee

>>186839892
Yeah it's nothing new, and I doubt there's much to be done about it since it would probably take an insane amount of resources to render all the grass in the map.

>>186840040
*autistic screeching intensifies*

>>186840358
im sure some high end rigs could handle it, but to make the game '''''fair'''' youd have to force it on everyone and then that just causes the game to be unrunnable on shitty computers
but now you just get stuff like that where someone thinks hes nearly invisible and he just gets fucking sniped easily because hes basically standing out in the open for someone really far away

how to balance?

>>186840626
"fog" that stretches for as far as you can see grass which clouds players but allows you to see the terrain.

>>186840626
It's a technical problem, and either you could do by just getting rid of grass for everyone, which makes the game easier to run on toasters and makes it fair, but the game looks worse and is less immersive, or you go high end and just make the game for high end PC users and hope people catch up and just say 'fuck toasters." But it's a lot of work, even high end machines are gonna chug with that much rendering, ect.

>>186841337
sounds good but i can see a few points where this could go badly too
>>186841378
yeah but apparently theyve just decided to ignore the problem so far
patch hecking when?

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Just make far-off grass use some disgusting low-end texture like something 56x56 pixels, give it is own shader unaffected by light and make it motionless.

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Needed to do some factory runs to chill out after losing two AKs and helmets on shoreline by playing hyper aggressively like a mad man. Thought this bit was kinda cool.

>>186846185
Hopefully when the servers are fixed we can see the rag dolls alot better, cuz they are brutal in offline mode.

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>>186846751
>servers
>ever being fixed

wew

>tfw you spawn in 5 minutes late
Welp

>>186841629
>motionless
It's like you want players to be blindingly obvious

>>186839173
That poor hatchling
Bolt from the blue

>>186792474
>gun hipster
>not the TT
pft

>>186795010
>he thought he could get a 16pack of ammo for 1roobel
Get rekt goy

>>186788087
>playing during primetime

>>186787352
>trying to headshot someone while they're wiggling
No you nigger you wait until they stop jesus

>>186774325
If they kill you they can loot in peace you dumbass.
Simple logic.
If they leave you alive you'll just turn around & kill them for their shit anyway, plus he gets to have that AKS you were fondling.

>>186838334
it's more likely that the makarov has the better bullet variation with things like EPHP, HP, FMJ, and everything in between whereas 9x19 does not

>>186841575
>>186841337
specifically what would be best is as mentioned fog but literally just invisible grass, no polys to render just a straight invisible close to the ground blanket

measure the height of the grass so that when the player crouches he cannot hide but is unseen when prone

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>>186857071
I saw a thread on an arma forum about a potential fix to this problem
By using a grass shaped alpha filter over player models at a distance which helps to blend them into the background that they're on

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>>186860227
Looks something like this in engine.

>>186860331
>>186860227
They could take a lot of lessons from ARMA honestly.

>>186862559
It was a suggestion. I don't think it was ever Implemented. Probably too busy churning out DLC to fix the flaws in their 'game'

>>186860331
...does that actually help?
That particular example makes him look rather obvious.

>>186865527
It's obvious in a still shot, but the most important part is being hard to see when you're looking around. Even if there was grass there, once someone is spotted in grass it's easy to track movement. Main point of something like this is making it hard to initially spot someone in the distance, I think that'd work very well.

>>186839173
This actually might explain why I die sometimes out of nowhere.

>>186865707
Thing about grass is it's different textures at different angles.
The alpha idea is better than nothing but it doesn't really help all that much- the player's model is still interrupting one large pattern rather than a ton of smaller ones- the eye-catching outline of a person is still there, and in that pic even his textures stood out on the green.

And shit if any of it's moving (including him) he'd be FLICKERING.

That's not something I'd count on people not noticing.

Some of these streamers make me fear for my loot, fuck