/gerg/ - Giant Extreme Robots General!

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>>186744561

First for robot punching.

Quad mechies when?

Bolt-ons when?

The latest pig news

>bolt-ons.
>robot hats.
>totally hardcore solaris for hardcore old men.
>we'll rebalance for mech divisions.
>using lots and lots of telemetry.
>your mech hat will pop off from any damage.
>inverse memetics are literally harder to implement than a new game mode.
>60 to 90 days.

Post pictures of your most desired bolt-on with which to bolt on.

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>>186746694
I want wings, pretty butterfly wings.

Kakos Kong Lord Karlos when

I've been gone for a bit, are RAC5s still ridiculously good on the Bushwacker?

>>186751394
Yes

>>186751394
>>186751683
Wait RACs are useful on something?

Which variant of Bushwacker?

>>186753790
Whichever ones can have RT and LT ballistics, I think there's three variants that qualify, it works well on all of them.

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>people actually voting escort

WHY

>>186756265
Because I have an Atlas painted orange that is named VIP

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>bolt-ons.

Russ has a very autistic way of renaming his inventions.

>>186758830
Would you have preferred them be called strap-ons?
Wait, that would have actually been hilarious.
>Wait a sec guys, I need to get this strap-on fitted to my mech before the Solaris match.

>drop in FP
>Everyone runs laser vomit except the occasional UAC boat or a SRM light mech

Why don't they use something more imaginative.

>>186746694
>Imagine what the game could be if Ranked match with 8v8 was implemented
>They announce a Competitive Play
>YES
>It's a useless USELESS bullshit no one but 13 people asked for, not enough to do the 16 for one match

WHY IS RUSS SO FUCKING IMBECILE

>>186760026
Why be less than effective?

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>all this nonsense from Rustler Bollocks.
>his ass sucking NGNG krew's there.shitting high fives and cheers at how grand all his fucked up ideas and horrible trash projects are.
>bolt-ons.
>lootcrates from overwatch.
>no, fuck you, no IK, no maps forever, no nothing.

Fuck is going on in castle pig skull.

>>186760026
No need to
Smoke screens never ever, everyone keeps doing pinpoint no repercusions back damage

>>186760431
>cant kill people with missiles/ballistics

>>186760026

Because energy weapons are the only thing that will last through an entire FP match's worth of targets.

>>186761190
you have 4 mechs, if you arent carrying enough ammo to hit 1000+ damage per mech you are doing it wrong.

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>BLR-1G
>BSW-X1
>CN9-A(NCIX)
I want to try MRMs, but these are the only IS mechs that I have with missile slots. What's my best option for running something with MRMs to get a decent feel for if I like them enough to buy a dedicated MRM mech?

>>186760872
Goto bed

>>186760872
They've finally embraced the fact they are a shovelware company once again and are now just looking for monetization methods that have nothing to do with improving the gameplay or features that require lines of code to be created.

>>186763039
MRMs are only a viable option if your mech is limited by number of hardpoints instead of tonnage. Otherwise more SRM launchers are better.

Also the spread is worse than clan SRMs with artemis, and clan SRMs are useless at 200+m. Its always hilarious when a MRM boats open up at me at close range and i only take yellow armor damage.

>>186763039
>>186765215
MRMS are deadly when you start hitting 30+, and no i'm not talking about taking a bunch of mrm 10s to add up. Mrm 60 can destoy a FP turret in one shot, and can rip open most clan mechs as well. They create very little heat for the damage they cause as well, and have a low ghost heat.

>>186746694
>using lots and lots of telemetry
The "Chris stares at raw statistical data and fucks up the game with shit balance decisions" -telemetry, or the "Piggy turns into Microkike and crawls your entire computer with their spyware" -kind of telemetry?

>Adding yet more separate geometry to mechs when their poo in loo coding kills good PCs with just how horribly they handle draw calls.

I'm already prepared for a sudden unexplicable jump in HW requirements to Arc levels if their quality of work uo to this point is any indication.

>>186768274
Ive been hit by 2x MRM-30s at close range (200m or less) and taken only yellow damage in a heavy. You might want to try firing 2x MRM-30s at a target in the testing grounds to see the % damage done and then take into account that includes hitting every location, even the legs.

>>186770562
what happened to paul who used to be in charge of balance? Did he get fired?

Anyone know how to stop MWO from stuttering? Seems to happen everytime the game wants to load animations or sounds.pak.

>>186779909
Run it from an SSD?

>>186780207
My SSD doesnt have enough space for MWO.

>>186773639
Holy shit this is why they're going back to 8v8.

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>>186784543

>>186761338

If you're farming match score epeen, you also get bigger numbers for solo-meching the match vs. two-three-four because it doesn't divide the results between multiple robots if none of them are ejected/killed.

>>186777230

MRMs were always a saturation weapon in TT, too- so you get lots of damage but not much of it goes to any one spot.

On the other hand, it's stupidly easy to chuck 60 MRMs at a target. Kills slower per missile than even LRM fire, but you're putting a lot more missiles in the target's direction so it somewhat makes up for it.

Still, it's spread damage. You will never kill fast with MRMs.

>>186784543

Nah, cause they're still doing 12v12 for FW.

The real reason is it compensates somewhat for the shit matchmaker and dwindling player base- 8v8 is less likely to be fueled with pure trash players because the hamster wheels overheated searching for that one last medium to fill the bill.

Question for old Mechwarrior 3 game.
Is there a mod that makes the missiles spread out like normal instead of bunching up?

>>186744561

Just had a weird game, but for once RNGesus blessed me.

Two heavies on each team, 4 mediums and six lights.

On the other hand, I'd just put a TAG-streakboat together for the event.

One 12-7 win later (nomnomnom enemy light horde, we had a 5-1 lead at one point), I could go back to killing things like a civilized person because 2 TAG kills and done.

>>186792281
Uh, not true. MRMs have the same damage grouping as LRMs, which is 5 point clusters. SRMs are the crit seekers that are for saturation.

60 MRMs is a lot of tonnage/slots/heat for the damage. Which is not much.

>>186796131

Yeah, but you're rolling 2-8 times to hit locations depending on the launcher size. That's a lot of spread (and chances to crit) for a single weapon in TT. LRMs max at 4 potential rolls per launcher. They're not quite LB-X level critseekers, of course but those are tops at it.

>>186745528

It that supposed to be an Atlas punching a Warhawk?

Robot punching is stupid. Double mass, double energy. Double velocity, quadruple energy. Faster, smaller punches are more effective.

So, bullets.

What's the best black widow build after civil war

>>186806650

Not the best, but I saw someone fluffing around with roughly this build last night (based on spectating) Ended up with 4 kills and about 900 damage.

http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=385&l=cc1061d9cab8a72a79d70a7bac8430bde6256f59

Just had a pub match where my entire lance was MLX-G's. These little devils are hilarious.

>>186813031

Fun, but man do the arms get shot off easy.

>>186813519

The problem is they get worse in packs. It only takes one getting on your back long enough to peel the armor off to ruin things in about two seconds, tops.

Also, not much danger early on, but the second you get to having your armor stripped...again, a few seconds of exposure and you won't have much left in that section.

Worth hunting down in other lights though. Every time.

>>186815598
Linebacker or Warhammer for my next heavy?

What builds to people recommend?

>>186815598
I've actually had a lot of success light-hunting in a MLX-G

>>186744561
Why doesn't Harmony Gold just fuck off already?

Why do RACs exist? They seem fairly pointless other than for blinding your opponent.

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>>186818481
They watched Jin Roh.

>>186817023

What lasers? I find it's tough dueling lights with HSL's, but those are most effective for getting a back open/peeling a damaged section and that's what I need most.

>>186816929

Linebacker if you want a fast one-trick ride (SRMs or ER PPC, but not both), Warhammers are more of a traditional heavy with different potential roles by model.

IS there any Clan Mech that can stand toe to toe with an Annhilator?

>>186818481

They do a decent amount of damage and make it tough for an opponent to hit back, and yeah- the blinding effect is often good for letting someone else get away or flank/backstab the distracted target.

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I... I just... Why? Just why? This is some totalitarian police state bullshit. I think I'm done with this game.

>>186820791

Let's see. Meme penis, basically "fuck", wordfilter friendly edition repeatedly, references to oral sex and the top kekker of them all, Trump because Canadians think he's the antichrist. Oh, and racism. Because this isn't /pol/, it's Canada Chat.

Stop being a tard and keep that shit on Mumble.

>>186821367
>denying the white privilege myth is racism

Fuck you

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>shit internet won't let me get on mumble or browse websites but somehow lets me browse and post on the 4chins
what did they mean by this

>>186746694
>bolts ons
>still no custom decals system
or better yet something that actually matters for this game
what the fuck are they thinking

>>186818481
They exist to appeal to people who like using machine guns but want them mega-sized
Like me

>>186820791
Nigger did you really expect old men to understand your shitty memes or laugh at your use of explicit language as if you're hot shit?

>>186820791
And what kind of punishment you've got for that?

>>186815598

I'm not a very good light pilot, so I've only been using mine as a fourth drop in FP.

If I end up dropping in my fourth mech, the match is either already lost and I'm just trying to squeeze an extra kill or two in off beat up mechs before it's over, or victory is imminent anyway.

Still fun for that.

>>186820791

>lel guys look at my hilarious memes
>threw some /pol/ in too for good measure

Children please go.

>>186816929
Linebacker is pretty good. It's fast for a heavy, but it's also a little light on free weight.

If you like pod set quirks, you can go for the C, which is ideal for my favorite setup, 6MPL + 2(or 3)LMGs. If you like ERPPCs, the Prime is alright for that, but you would have to break the pod set bonus if you want them on high mounts for hill peeking, at which point any variant will work fine. They can also do 6SRM6 quite well, which again requires pod set to be broken so the base doesn't really matter.

In the case that you don't care about pod sets, I'd suggest getting the B or D due to slightly better twist angles than the rest.

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Was the final scene in nexus, dare I say, kino?

>>186819630

Annihilator is pretty much at the top of the heap right now as far as assaults go. You could probably give one pause with a well kitted Kodiak or Dire Wolf, but it's still going to be ugly.

>mechbays half price
Just in time, since I was starting to really need more empty bays. Now I need some mechs to work towards filling my new bays with. I especially need some fun IS mechs that have a decent variety of build options and/or can make good use of nutech. Currently I'm considering a Catapult of some kind, likely the K2 for heavy PPCs, but might get a missile one instead if there's something better for HPPC use. Other than that, I only have some vague ideas on what else I want, so I'm looking for suggestions.

>>186821772
>Nigger did you really expect old men to understand your shitty memes or laugh at your use of explicit language as if you're hot shit?
Holy shit dude, it's just playful banter. I was responding to a guy who was also memeing.

>>186822462
Since I've been banned before for similar inoffensive banter, 1 week ban.

>>186822878
>lel guys look at my hilarious memes
>threw some /pol/ in too for good measure
You can think it's cringey faggy meme shit all you want, still doesn't justify punishment, nor does expressing your political pride. Seriously, how is a political slogan offensive, especially if you feel prideful about its genuity? And white privilege objectively does not exist, but I guess stating facts is racist in Cuckada.

>>186820791

Looks like patience has none.

>>186824341

>still doesn't justify punishment

Look, I actually agree with you here. I think that chat should be unmoderated besides preventing spam. Game chat isn't a democracy though, and your ideals mean absolutely nothing in the context.

I'm just saying you shouldn't be that surprised that your /pol/ack memetic bullshit got you a temporary chat ban.

>>186783256
What are you running, a 100g SSD?

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>>186823601
Yes.

But the ultimate kino is dodging satellite lasers in Silent Line.

>>186817815
Because you can't tell a hookworm not to be a parasite. Then it dies.

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>>186827981
>dodging satellite lasers in Silent Line
I do not remember this but I will believe it

>those bio creatures you had to figure out how to kill and then kill in vanilla AC3
now THAT I remember. Annoying fucking mission that was. Also the one mission you had to get something from a sinking shit and had to blow some fucker up in order to get thing. Shit had my heart racing

>>186821610

Not saying it is, but Patience probably pops bluepills like candy. Canadian = trigger warning online.

Besides, any significant bantz is likely seen (rightfully) as player repellent, ever if they're T5 scrubtards that can't even fire lurms half the time, much less aim and move at the same time. PGI prizes stupid players, they're more likely to feed the pig.

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OK, we have the next three months worth of roadmap.

Mostly shit, of course. But after the Trannytoes release, it's an IS medium, then a Clan light, then a Clan medium. Given the froth about it, Pirahna is likely the Clan light. Which mediums?

http://mwomercs.com/news/2017/08/1874-roadmap-for-september-october-beyond

>>186833247
The Black Lanner is popular.

>>186833247

it's the dasher, they won't release piranha.

>>186833247
"New Supply Cache system
Also currently planned to release alongside Solaris, the current Supply Cache system will be undergoing significant revisions aimed at making the Caches more accessible and more rewarding.
Rather than viewing the contents of each Cache prior to opening, and then receiving only one of the included items, the new system is geared at providing you with all the items within the Cache but without the ability to see its contents prior to opening. We will also be phasing out the Supply Cache Key system altogether; if you have a Cache in your inventory you'll simply be able to open it and get the goods, with no key or additional requirement needed.
You can expect more details regarding the new Cache system, along with details regarding the transition from the existing Cache and Key system to the new Supply Cache system, as we near its release next year."

Oh okay but I assume the rewards are going to get nerfed considering they won't require keys anymore.

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>>186829130
The mission name is "Defend Lawdas Factory" in Silent Line: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Ct4X7KGQ2Q

The sinking ship mission in AC3 was rad as fuck yeah. Made me so tense the first time I played it.

The... 3v1? in AC2AA always got my heart pumping too.

Is a Catapult K2 worth buying if I want something to use HPPCs on?

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>>186834257
Why not the Piranha?!

>>186834257
It'll be neither.
Trust me, I've already seen the concept art.

>>186835517
>>186835949

Because the dasher is an iconic mech, it's a 20 tonner and it fills the need clans have.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ny_oa1YCMyk

Russ basically said it would show up.

>>186836496
The current engine can't handle the speeds the Fire Moth would be moving at.

>>186836885

Don't kid yourself, they won't allow it to.

>>186836496
It'll be the Urbanmech IIC. Don't kid yourself thinking it'll be anything else.

>>186834402

Incidentally, this means it's worth it to simply stockpile the caches you're getting, rather than leaking MC away one cache piss at a time.

>>186836885
If the MASC only provides acceleration bonuses and not top speed, it'll be fine.

>>186838663

>I'd mind a Clantech Urbie

Finally, the last piece for Community Warfare would fall into place. Urbie wars.

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>>186834693
>not using hoverlegs for maximum sped

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>Using alt account
>Run into kong in tier 5

>>186841992

There are no tiers, the community is that dead.

How's the BT beta treating you?

Firestarters are still a meme in any game except for Mechcommander, why did they even hit flamers with a limited ammo nerfbat holy shit. Multi target still the worst ability and the one that gets the AI killed more than anything because it turns off their brains in regards to heat management.

>>186841604
Hoverlegs can't hop like other legs and so consume a shit ton of energy to boost around normally for only a marginal speed increase. At least quads can fire big guns.

>>186843508
I got my kickstarter refunded. I didn't like it. They're adding stupid shit and I have my doubts they'll ever get multiplayer working right for 4 v 4, which is what my battletech group wants to do. We all got our refunds.

>>186841604
Hoverlags are trash compared to boost hopping with bipeds. Their energy drain is too high for really little benefit unless you're on one of the "90% of the map is water" missions.

Also that wasn't my video.

>>186835949
>doesn't say what it is

Okay fine, it's the fucking Solitaire.

>>186843651
I'm still relatively satisfied with what it is since most of the streamlining changes I'm okay with. Megamek is what I'd use if I want to play regular old BT online.

There is something to be had about games which balance themselves around enemies being dumb and weak so that they can throw dozens of them at your small elite team. Those missions in MC1 where you capture and defend some buildings with the ludicrous amount of enemy reinforcements wouldn't work if they were all strong.

As an aside, anyone else with the Beta able to remember if pepsi Awesomes were running this cool? I don't remember it generating so little heat in the last patch, but it sure makes it work more like the genuine CBT Awesome. Battlemaster still shafted because it can't punch and fire lasers at the same time, which is what it was designed to do.

>>186843843

The Solitare 2 would have speeding issues like the Flea does.

>>186841992
Was it IceGryphon?

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>>186845597
No it was Greg

>>186845654
Impossible, his computer is broken.

If I see sean lang in game, do I team kill or leg him?
What do I say afterwords?

>>186845745
leg him then apologize with a 'sorry man' and claim you were distracted by a cat or dog or something like that.

I've done that to him twice

>>186845728
Is his computer as old as his girlfriend?

ded

>>186845745

Nah, you just do your best to make him look bad.

Ideally, you chase him around,shoot at his targets. "Names" make great distractions because everyone wants to kill them, so as long as he's alive and being shot at, you tend to have much freer range.

Lucky me, the last time he was on the other side and I blew half his robot out because he walked right into a dumbfired ATM salvo.

>it's another you keep getting all the kills on your team but the rest of the team can't clear 200 damage episode

QP queue right now is so ded the matchmaker piles all the decent players on one team and fills the other with top spuds. I know, because I either end up the one competent guy or we kill them. Over, and over, and over. It'd be seal clubbing if I didn't keep seeing things like 96kph Commando Guy or 86 damage Awesome Pilot, followed by the obligatory 1-12 to 3-12 losses.

GG, not-functional matchmaker. :)

Does anybody else here play MWO with a keyboard?

>>186852352
No, steering wheel and Joy stick for me

>>186852352
Dance Revolution Non Slip pad master race here

>>186852647
I wonder if its possible to actually rig up a crude control for the DDR pad

>>186795493
i thought TAG didnt work on streaks?

>>186853457
Why would they not work together? Actually, tag probably benefits streaks the most because they can't fire without lock.

>>186853457
You're thinking of Artemis.

>>186853640
they dont even have a missile spread stat listed in the mechlab though. I mean sure it decreases lockon times but what about the spread?

Ok, i've bought it and no none of the builds i like.

How do i ferret, /gerg/
>inb4 you dont

Choises are:
http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=597&l=34d6e4679c412f9ff34c6787f921dbe8c98ea01a

http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=597&l=f526df813b3b5e40582db4df8da11042485541e8

http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=597&l=ea843b9be08105793985c1cd8a6f9c0d9944b4e6

http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=597&l=1add7a72d5853c4e0eb831ac966641569452d6dc

>>186861650
you are supposed to come up with a build before you buy a mech. Nobody runs ferrets for a reason because lol no tonnage.

Anybody know if its actually possible to set up MWO with a Hotas, I have one but dont know if intergrate everything.

>>186861825
B-but muh ECM, muh 12 heatsinks...

Are we meta-brawler nao?

http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=72&l=b38af3d69a7da6e797a631dd2ceaf2d37a2e6858

>>186867030
>snub nosed
>rocket launchers

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Is it worth it putting a heavy guass on any marauders?

bumper

>>186867871
I think that for maraudeurs a UAC20 is more fitting, light engine are really nice in maraudeurs

heh

jej

WHERE ARE THE LOYALTY MECHS, RUSSLER
ARE
THEY

>>186881805

This must mean that the loyal gold men are no longer loyal.

>>186853457

My TAG kills beg to say otherwise, and since one of them was a solo kill, it's not like anyone else's missiles got in.

Yes, it does. And so does equipping Artemis because piggy lock-on code

>>186852352

KB+ mouse is master race for MWO.

Joysticks are for oldgolds who aim like they're crosseyed and end up with MW4 flashbacks mid-game.

>>186852352
>>186852647
>>186853158
>DDR pad for leg movement
>Wiimote for torso/arm movement

C'mon, step it up

Black Lanner or riot.

>>186889717
fishing rod controller for non movement control

>>186888914
Joystick for aiming is retarded, but joystick for movement and mouse for aiming is pretty sweet

>>186888718
but does TAG reduce streak spread?

>>186867030

Not really. You're barely going over 60kph with speed tweaks, so being a total close-combat whore isn't going to do your Hightarget much good. Worse, they have the absolute least effective jump jets so it's not worth spending the 8 tons in the first place to get hoverjets barely capable of hopping a low hill or building. MWO breaking JJs means anything past 85 tons isn't getting shit for their tonnage these days. It's what makes the chassis so crappy nowadays.

Stop wasting 8 tons on skipping pebbles and this way you've actually got some reach, plus a dead side to absorb some damage once the RLs are launched.

http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=72&l=0bc13784c34ea5f3f6e267c5b8198a027d4026f6

>>186863695
Buyer's remorse should be setting in by now...

>>186891878

No, but it will speed lock-on and they'll track better, not that you really notice on the latter given they're bone-seeking missiles anyway.

Streaks don't spread, per se. They randomly pick a hit location (a "bone") and head for it, so unlike all other launchers, spread modifiers have no effect whatsoever.

>>186881805
They said September, like it is every year.

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>>186861825
Ferrets have never had a tonnage problem. They've had a hardpoint problem, and now they have the problem of "cSPL is worthless."

>>186861650
Which unfortunately is the case. Despite 6E being just what the Ferret wanted, it wanted them with 6 pre-nerf SPLs. Without them it is even worse than before when it had 5SPLs.

I suggest using 5-6ERMLs on it. Nothing else is worth it. You can do 4MPL if you like. The ECM is a meme. 6ERSL and an ATM9 is a meme but it might be a fun meme, I haven't tried it yet.

>>186892593
EXCEPT WHEN IT WAS AUGUST

RUSS LIED

MWO DIED

>>186892801
45 ton mech with an oversized engine has a serious tonnage problem.

Same reason why the viper is shit.

Meanwhile a 40 ton assassin can put a decent engine + some JJs on it and 4 SRM-6s. Guess which is better.

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>>186881805
>>186883453

THE LOYALTY MECHS, DAHNALD.

>>186893732
The only reason the Assassin is better than the Viper is hitboxes and health quirks. The Viper is nowhere near shit and brings a great loadout. The gap between it and the Assassin isn't very large and they are both some of the best 'lights' in the game at the moment.

Clan lights and pseudo-lights like the Ferret don't need much podspace, because the weapons they want to use, ERSLs and SPLs, weigh almost nothing. The IFR has extra dubs already even. 6SPL would run very cool on it compared to the Cheetah. If it had double the hardpoints and could run something super memey like 12ERSLs or micropulse or whatever you better believe you'd see them all over the place.

Tonnage doesn't limit either of those mechs. I don't know what builds you would want to run on them that you can't outside of something like max SRM, which they don't have the hardpoints to do. Well, the IFR could bring 4SRM6 with a pathetic amount of ammo, but compared to what could have been with 6 pre-nerf SPL it wouldn't have been used.

>>186881805
>>186894095
The impatience of the autistic children is hilarious.

>>186892801

They also actually work OK as a NARC spotter ala the IS Raven-3L if you're using the IFR-P. You can swap to ERMLs of course, but if you're going to sneak and pod targets, this way at least you can burn someone a new asshole.

http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=597&l=14cc81092d50b4afb2c421df04672e6e18772d30

>>186892593
it was august 12th last year, dunno about the years before

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>>186894095
>not Khanald

>>186895998

It's an Atlas, thus no Khan.

Also, we have a notable fix going in next month:

https://mwomercs.com/forums/topic/256505-a-note-on-heat-containment/

>>186896943
I figured this was how it was intended to work.

Well, it's still not going to be that good honestly. At the best situations it might mean another medium laser or so, the value is still low as fuck. But I guess it's nice to see it fixed.

If only the rest of the skillbloat could be, especially the fucking mobility tree.

>>186899965

It'll work better for fatties with more sinks than lighter designs, but yes.

>>186900368
Even fatties with loads of dubs will still only be getting around 7~9 heat threshold at most out of it. It isn't too meaningful. But at least something finally scales linearly, unlike everything else in the skilltree like armour and mobility where Assaults get shafted in value per node.

memes

Yo. Where's my quad mechies at? Maybe we'll get a loyalty quad.

>>186907293

They'd have needed IK to make quads work properly, so no. Tarantula would have actually been pretty fun, Urbie-style turret torso and tougher to leg out because it takes two leg destructions to reduce it to being "legged", and three to kill it.

>>186907614
Tarantula, Scorpion and Goliath are the ones I'd want the most. The animal themed ones, enh, not so much.

So reading lore why are Clans complete fucking retards?


Apparently they have genetically engineered guys raised from near birth to be warriors, better mechs (Apparently one mech can take on a whole IS lance or some shit), better tech and so on and yet can't take out a bunch of constantly squabbling houses who lost all their tech and went into technical stagnation.


Hell they even get better versions of old designs the IS use like the Warhammer IIC.

So what the shit am I looking at?

>>186907816

The other thing I'd expect from quads is getting some of the inherent movement advantages that just get filed under "piloting" in TT.

Hill climb, improved gyros, better anchor turn (and they get a side strafe, unlike two-leggers) and in general, a more agile chassis to compensate for it's reduced critspace.

Oh, and of course it'd get the leg heatsink bonus if in water, but for MWO that's generally only important for Clan designs because lol, IS DHS. Like the Fire Scorpion or Stalking Spider.

>>186908271
You're looking at shit writing.

>>186908271
They did roll the houses untill
>houses united
>comstar got involved
>inner warden/crusader schism

>>186908818
I just don't understand why some people want to balance the game around it.

>>186844469
it can't fire it's torso lasers and punch? What about the rear lasers?

>>186908271

Infighting, for starters. All the Clans are not only trying to invade, but also grow the biggest MUH HONOR EPEEN to prove themselves worthy of succeeding the Cameron line to rule humanity. This drive to show off often suckers Clanners into facing technologically inferior but more numerical opposition and getting swarmed under in the process, usually by overbidding themselves.

After the Truce, it gave them enough time to start bickering and pissing again with each other, and except for the Ghost Bears, they didn't exactly do well with their conquered worlds at first. This meant eventually things ground mostly to a halt, and at one point, the IS even manages to get all the way to the Clan worlds via a traitor and BTFO's Clan Smoke Jaguar for good, obliterating the entire Clan and basically waving their own Star League flag back at the Clanners (who are descended from League military exiles).

Without unity, they eventually end up higher tech but lower-population factions in the Inner Sphere, especially after the infighting at "home" leads to the Wars of Reaving and massive purges of the remaining homeworld Clans.

what's a good fire support build for an adder

>>186909965

Dual HML + dual ATM-9's + 4T ammo + LAP can work. Or I like this one for fun, hang around the big guys and just burn big holes in shit any time they've got something distracted.

http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=167&l=019075568602f3a8b4e379279f3e038f7b9df2dc

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I want to use Heavy Guass but I don't feel like any of my mechs are suited well to it except for maybe the annihilator and I actually don't like that thing at all. Though it seems to be decent on the Marauder Bounty Hunter along with 7 Med Lasers, though i honestly prefer double LBX 10's on my marauders

I've been doing pretty shit in my Viper. Help me build it right. This is how I'm currently running it.

http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=422&l=501ab2c899670ffd3919120458a0ead372095b7e

Incredibly fast, but withers under fire and just seems generally worse than my Kit Fox for the same type of play. Maybe I'm using it wrong.

>>186915929
replace mgs with lgms.
replace spls HMedLasers

Try this: http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=422&l=077c59b021564dbd025660fffcbbea1f47008a49
You might like it.

>>186915929
here you go. you can change its arms bases on whether you are right or left handed.
>http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=425&l=060614794627d9b3b0f9da5a830fcd9312e13525

>>186915340
I'm having the same problem.
I was thinking of running dual heavy gauss on my mauler.

>29.95 MC pack

So, buy 2 $15 packs?

>>186917551
Why would you get 2 of the 15.00 pack when you end up with a fair bit less MC than just buying the 29.95 pack?

Get called out for my shit game by a fag named Arcanoz, Sure I did 314 damage the whole match between 3 mechs. But those three arnt even close to even being mastered. Being drop caller calling targets out to kill, or where to go. Call me a faggot in his ruskie accent.

>>186918774
Where can I subscribe to your blog?

Is there ever a reason to use ACs instead of UACs?

>>186919251
Blog is >>186744561 You're welcome.

>>186918774
u mad bratishka?

>>186918774

>314 damage the whole match between 3 mechs

Yeah, you did absolute shit and you deserved to get called out. Deal with it faggot.

>>186920359 I know I got called out for it, but we ended up winning cause of my strategy on Polar Lrmlands.
>>186919994 no not mad, but he was.

>writes a salty blogpost
>i'm not mad guys!

>>186918774

Any game you're under-200, you fucked up.

In CW, 314 damage is even more of a fuck up: Your team won in spite of you, not because of you.

>>186919334

If you're Clantech? Never. CAC's are literally placeholder garbage.

IS robots can do just fine with single AC/20's vs. UAC/20's, or with assaults using large numbers of AC's like Anni's or Maulers going quad-5 or more.

For dual mounts or singles, I tend to prefer Ultra's or RAC's.

>>186919334
>>186919334
Inner Sphere UAC's divy up your damage into multiple shots. Regular Inner Sphere AC's only fire one shot.

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I mean this is me on a fully mastered Deck, I'm not a bad player its just Polar Lrmland is bad for brawl builds.

>we ended up winning cause of my strategy on Polar Lrmlands

No, you ended up winning because the rest of the team carried you.

A good caller can definitely make or break a match, but that's no excuse.

>>186921437
>trying to save face on an anonymous image board

>>186921831
I'm Chaotic

>>186921437

We all have awful matches man, it's ok.

I played three games of FP last night solo queuing, got matched against the same group of HHoD every time, and got fucking rolled, every time. I didn't post more than 900 or something damage total in any of the matches.

The previous night I had a 3400 damage game (2 mechs) that was a loss due to enemy capping.

Sometimes you can't win no matter what.

>>186922106
I know but this guy was just bitching at me for making the calls.

>noob just can't stop being buttflustered
heh

So this is my question, how do people who do less damage, less kills and assists get a better match score than somebody who did?

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>>186922106
>getting rolled by HHOD

lmao, even at their worst kongshitters and randumbs spank them

>>186924432
matchscore in FP is divided by amount of mechs lost

I kind of hate my KGC-000 (loyalty). The 0000 seems better, but there's no way I'm actually going to spend C-Bills on a KGC.

Incredibly slow, super low mounts, and maximum bully.

I was trying to make quad UAC/5s work, but I'm done with that. How should I be running this piece of shit? Thinking about trying this.

http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=238&l=ce9a29d1c1513b38abaaaf1bb37fbd316e5c24fe

>>186925303
Daym how come my nigga Whispers so good?

>>186920998
Under a thousand is bad.

And it's not just about fucking up, it's also a huge waste of time. You need to get kills and damage to earn the money.

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>After playing for a month, decide to throw away my money and buy a mech bundle

>Have 600 premium currency left, so decide to buy some paint

>All the good colours are 1000 each

Fuck

>>186894506
The assassin can bring 4x SRM-6s, the viper can bring a bunch of shitty lasers. Guess which is more useful.

>>186928345
>colour sale tomorrow

hmmmmmmmmm

God hit Reg is still a fucking shitty thing, anybody else not getting damage counts?

>Assaults who just sit there while others have to push

Seriously why do people bother playing Assaults?

>>186929873
not your fucking bulletsponge buddy

>>186930367
You aren't anything buddy considering that kind of assault also contribute fuck all to damage.

>>186928674

if this is true i'm autistic enough to spend money just to colour

>>186930750
>baseless assumtions

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>>186930367
>>186930750
>>186929873

>Play as an Assault and happily bullet sponge for team mates, even telling them i'm doing it and for them to push/flank

>They still hang back taking pot shots and doing nothing

>Play as light, get weapons blown off
>Tell team mates i'll run through enemy formation as a distraction while they push
>They do nothing while 8 enemy mechs all turn their backs to them, to get an easy kill on me

>>186929873
>One of your assaults doesn't connect until they are the only one left
>Proceeds to shoot everywhere but the opponents


Is there something that they are trying to exploit with that or what? I keep seeing it and its impressive that they know they connect the moment they are the last ones alive.

>>186932692

Sounds like a bot

>>186917872
I don't see a 29.95 pack tho

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>>186929873
>>186930750
>play assault, want to be credit to team and tank damage as expected
>respond to a call for a push and move out front to absorb hits
>push begins, draw lots of aggro, can't see shit due to all the incoming fire
>team wordlessly pussies out and retreats back to cover instead of following up
>die before realizing they didn't push, and unable to break 100 damage
It doesn't take many matches of shit like that before you learn your lesson.

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>>186933014
I wonder if this is intentional. In addition to not mentioning on the purchase site that there is a sale.

>>186933868

You use them as shields,

So if PGI loses their lawsuit does that mean the Phoenix hawk is getting removed?

>>186937037

They aren't going to loose. If they have half a fucking brain though, in the future they'll modify the design more so they don't have to waste time in lawsuits again.

>>186937649
I thought they did modify the design but not by much.

>>186937798

They are modified, I mean for fuck sake HG never sued over the rifleman in MC2.

>>186939194
Mechcommander 2 didn't have the Rifleman. It had the Jagermech.

>>186908271
The Society.

The Warrior caste nominally has absolute control over all state affairs but they rely a lot on the scientist and engineering castes to keep their war machines running AND to breed the next generation of warriors. Generations of engaging in highly ritualized combat that is designed to preserve resources has made them very complacent and bad at the whole "total war" thing. Then it doesn't help that the jaded scientists overseeing the test tube babies are given a lot of trust and free reign to select for warriors who are dumb in the exact ways you are thinking about.

Most of the time a single Clan mech will get wiped on the tabletop if the IS player is actually given 4 mechs, it is more likely to be a 2-1 matchup. Board space is often too small for a Clan player to play keep away and whittle down 4 low tech shitmechs especially since those shitmechs can punch and kick just as good as modern ones. The only reason why they pushed as far as they did into the Inner Sphere is because many of these battles were in favor of the Clans (not 2-1 outnumbered) and the defenses of the Houses are the thinnest at the interstellar frontiers.

Once the Houses and Comstar got their shit together and brought out their Lostech stuff, the battles were no longer lopsided and the Clans were doomed to lose a war of attrition. They got off lucky because it DIDN'T end up that way; they were crushed decisively in the final battles without the use of strategic weapons and their losses were technically minimized. Even then, all the fresh inexperienced pilots that participated in those final fights were still good enough to gain some victories against the most battle hardened IS ones.

tldr Clan gunnery and piloting is better, but their planning and strategy sucks donkey balls

>>186908654
MWO properly gives you a sink bonus if the body part is submerged in water if I'm not mistaken. A quad would be much shorter than a biped so maps with rivers can cover a lot more of the body.

>>186940776
>MWO
>anything proper

fuck no it doesn't. Nigger fecal matter loving PIGgers couldn't code shit.

The ONLY time your heatsinks get a bonus to cooling rate is when they're installed in the legs and your mech is submerged all the way to the waist. That is the only time those 2 clan DHS/ 1-4 IS SHS will get an increase in cooling rate.

Otherwise a Locust, being as small as it is, could just sit in the water 24/7 and not worry about heat. Except it still has to worry about heat while in the water. Because PGI can't code as well as they can suck mohammedistani cock as ordained by their cuck minister.

>>186909119
Melee and weapons other than small lasers and MGs don't mix. Melee is a separate action in Nu-BT, executed at the same time as movement and ends your turn. The Battlemaster has always been a hot mech, but with the way the mech currently works you fire weapons one or two turns and then cool off by using melee for the next one or two turns. Problem is that it is just a hair too slow to do that very well.

They're using MWO models, no rear mounted weapons, even though their multi targeting skill would actually work well with that kind of thing.

>>186937037
The PHX is a less similar to the original compared to the Archer and the Warhammer. Those are a lot harder to contest.

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>tfw you're an Urbanmech and you're the last mech alive against a damaged Timber Wolf

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>tfw you kick a shitass little helicopter in the face so hard it spills its rotor spaghetti

>>186918774
>314 dmg for 3 mechs
>dropping in unskilled trash
>""""drop calling"""" when you obviously do not grasp even the basics
Shitters like you deserve to get legged and reported for non-participation and assisting the enemy.

>>186921437
Oh boy, it's Urlond the Megashitter. At least you're not namefagging anymore.

https://www.reddit.com/r/OutreachHPG/comments/6veyzt/freshly_stolen_shiptoast/

S M H

>>186955765
WEW

I had that weird thought - if my every clanmech would be equpped with LAMS and a NARC - would the use of this tech somehow be useful to the team to the point everyne starts using said tech?

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>>186951005
It just a bad match. Most of my brawl is medium range to brawling. I dont really long range unless I bring one variant of my madcats. This was one of my last FP matches for the day and with my unskilled dropped deck damage.

>>186951216
I know, probably wont go back to namefagging.

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It was a quiet night, as they came upon a massive intersection.
Kakos had taken several shots to a side torso, who began swearing loudly.
In the mechbay, Haruko was soon to be seen again.
Greg realized his heat was spiking, but he could to the enemy pilot a very slim to none chance.
His teeth rattled as the paperdoll of his shit.
At the city's main avenue, cars blaring and swerving out of the open as SRM's hammered into its gigantic side torso.
Greg backed his Orion forward and began preparing himself for some upgrades to the ship.
He fired once more into the cockpit of the skyscraper he was reading.

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Kakos sounded his warhorn and radioed in to the cantina to drown his woes, and Shoebox had rounded the corner to the ground. In the mechbay, Haruko was soon to be seen again. The Shoebox was nowhere to be seen for at least as far as he could manage. Greg switched to private chat and began to turn round as nothing was ahead. One of seemingly endless cities by rivers that Kong had found a sassy colored Panther, legs blown out, laying on its side with a heaving lurch Greg looked past Harabec to see a jump sniping Night Gyr falling back down behind a nearby skyscraper. Planning needed to be seen again.

>>186964985
wtf are those mechs?

>>186965665
Ryoken / Stormcrow on the left, Akuma on the right.

>>186965665
right one is a ryoken, left one is an akuma

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>>186907614
Since they've officially abandoned IK everyone playing is now a proud hovercraft pilot. In a game featuring walking war machines the minimally viable visual effect to get that point across would be feet that actually walk on the terrain.

>>186968359
HOW DARE YOU?
DEEP ROOTED CRYENGINE ERRORS, YKNOW!

But seriously, i dont even believe they
>had addressed the performance issues
because using hitreg as excuse is so fucking LAME

>>186802219
It's honestly the warhawk's fault for getting into melee range of an atlas. The warhawk was clearly asking for it.

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Is there anything good I can do with my BNC-3M utilizing nutech? I've barely touched it since the update, and haven't messed with the loadout at all. I like my current build enough that I could just swap all the MLs for ERMLs so that they sync better with the LPLs. I'm also kinda tempted to try loading it up with nothing but LPPCs and seeing how that goes. Other than that I'm not sure what else might be worth trying.

>>186973441
Here's a shitty tier 5 bracket build that takes advantage of quirks
http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=145&l=cba91c1b410547a02953d50ddc216ef64a67c6e3

In all seriousness, you can't do anything that isn't a laserboat with it unless it get's much better quirks.

Question for any ATMfags. Do you usually carry probe or no?

Guys, has anyone ripped the soundtrack from the Battletech beta yet?

bamp

>>186933014
Then you need to open your eyes.

Did anyone here go to MechCon way back when?

Nobody is on this thread today.

>>186999839
I don't think anyone here went to MechCon, but there was someone who went to the steam launch party I think. He hasn't been around in a while.

>>187000049
I'm a moron, I got the two events mixed up. I meant the steam launch party.

Did anyone here go to that?

>>187000245
The guy who did was called InsaneWolf and I haven't seen him in like two years probably.

>>187000385
Thanks, hopefully he'll show up.

>>187000560
Why?

>>187000560
In the mean time, wanna yiff?

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>>187005438

How about no.

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>>187005438
Tell ya what, you start the party and I'll bring me friends over when we're ready.

>>186981146
Yes cause it not just boost missile it boosts everything.

I'm just dropping in to bump this shitshow and to say that engine desync was a real Hindenburg-tier fuck up. I'll go back to playing some better games now.

>>187016969
same

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Did I do well?

>>187019875
I'd expect so given how much of a stomp that game was

>>187020130
Thats my non-mastered Deck as well.

>>186981146

Light probe is usually quite enough for the job.

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>>187005438
>>187014630

>>187020857
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTYRGi-Q7U4
Please post appropriate song with the mech.

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>urinal lord shitter still trying to prove something on an anonymous imageboard

>>187021389
I just want some mechwarrior friends.

>>187021993
How about you get on mumble and make an effort?

>>187022152
But i'm scared.