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Regular onion edition

>Trails of Cold Steel PC out now:

http://store.steampowered.com/app/538680/
https://www.gog.com/game/legend_of_heroes_trails_of_cold_steel_the

>A version of the old Zero no Kiseki fan translation was leaked:

https://mega.nz/#!LM4Hxb5J!0LrSUQF0yPjveDVPLSSn3Xq1i_tSwvqXHIU9Rzd3fiE

Don't forget to support the games and spoiler the spoilers!

>Latest news

- Trails of Cold Steel III's on track for Japanese release on September 28th of this year, confirmed PS4 exclusive. News/article translations: http://gematsu.com/tag/the-legend-of-heroes-trails-of-cold-steel-iii

- Short CS3 TV ad: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYaV_GNqyCo

- Class VII's back: https://imgur.com/a/Pw4Cp

- New CS III scans: http://imgur.com/a/YnoXU

- Cold Steel PC guest blogs (written by port programmer Durante, of DSFix fame):
http://xseedgames.tumblr.com/post/163454030210/loh-trails-of-cold-steel-pc-guest-blog-2-from
http://xseedgames.tumblr.com/post/163720373505/loh-trails-of-cold-steel-pc-guest-blog-3-from

- Ys Seven coming to PC, trailer/info: https://gematsu.com/2017/07/ys-seven-pc-first-details-trailer-screenshots

- Zwei II coming to PC via XSEED (Summer), preview stream: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gVOBPNrNgU

- Tokyo Xanadu out on Vita, improved EX+ version on PS4/PC scheduled for late 2017

- Cold Steel 2 confirmed for PC, release date pending
https://twitter.com/xseedgames/status/850395724223098880

>Older news

- Check out these Trails FC & SC updates, re: translation improvements (http://xseedgames.tumblr.com/post/159288714430/the-legend-of-heroes-trails-series-localization)

- Ys VIII: Lacrimosa of Dana brought by NISA. Please complain to Falcom, not XSEED (they're upset about it too). Good Japanese grammar is extremely recommended.

Pastebin (aka music): http://pastebin.com/G2mswYCt

Extra Stuff (Guides, links, CS undub): https://pastebin.com/n2G4xL5s
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bEstelle
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Calvard when?
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gib crossbell
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MISTY
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>>186744427
No.
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>>186744441
What's the secret to Hexen clan's lewdness?
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>>186744485
playing with magical, big sticks
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>>186744485
Aidos save us from the witches!
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>Elliot's side of town, everybody loves the cute femboy.

>Machias' side, BULLYING.
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Anyone here knows if CS2 will be on pc?
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>>186745210
Later this year
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>>186745210
Durante said it probably won't come out in the next few months, earliest would be December if things go well. They'll also be fixing bugs on CS 1 in the meantime, which i guess also helps for CS 2 since it's the same engine.
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richard is the gayest character ive ever seen
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>>186745270
Just finished the first one and seriously, the cliffhanger is frustrating but as I far as I heard trails likes to do these kinds of things so ill go easy on them
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>>186744975
Bullying is a strong word for what Patiry is attempting to do.
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>>186745451
for a pc port it sure is good quality even better,
most of the bugs I experienced so far doesnt seem to hinder gameplay or gamebreaking
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>>186745486
There have been 3 story arcs so far, and the first game of 2 of them end on wicked cliffhangers. The exception is Zero, which manages to end on a pretty positive note
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>>186745689
Only bug I've ran into in about 20 hours of play was some oddity with their being massive amounts of bloom. It went away after I went into a house and never ran into it again.
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>>186744271
*low ATS delay behind you*
Nothing personnel, kid.
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20 hours into the 3rd and it's probably already my favorite game in the series by now. My favorites before that were Zero and (not being ironic) CS2.
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>>186746237
>(not being ironic)
Stop giving the shitposter ammo with crap like this. Stand up for the games you like.

The truth is that CS2 had some of the most hype moments in the series. Between the god-tier soundtrack, the fun as fuck combat, and the scenario, I really enjoyed CS2.
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>>186746237
>(not being ironic) CS2
It's a little sad you can't say one of your favorites is a CS game without being accused of being a memer.
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>>186746630
>>186746712
I actually like all the games but whenever I say anything positive about CS it's immediately disregarded as bait or one autist insists it's a Reanfag doing damage control. So I mostly gave up posting, but I just finished Kloe's moon door and this is the only place to talk about the series so back here I am.
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>>186746237
3rd ended up being my favorite game as well, easily my favorite OST in the series.
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Would you buy Tio's t-shirt?
http://dengekionline.com/elem/000/001/577/1577269/
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>>186746893
The shitposter won't admit it, but those endgame missions leading up to the infernal castle where some of the hypest shit in the series. The soundtrack and fast paced combat really sell the whole atmosphere
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>>186736041
love it, got a chuckle out of me

>>186741320
you sure anon? I mean Rufus full on wrecks your whole crew. and his attack animations and stance are very similiar to arionrhod's lance use (her rapid thrust attacks and his soul slicer move). And since we think Arianrhod is the lance maiden from Erobonia it's likely her fighting style is apart of the noble fencing style

>>186747470
agreed anon, I loved all that build up, and infernal castle was great. I hope Falcom streamlines the spell and S-craft animations though, I like to watch but... 10-30sec animations just to get a damage number is a bit much at times.

We need a "short summon" option like FFX had or something
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>>186747393
cold steel 2 was mistake
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>>186747818
Meh, to me the combat was perfect. Cold Steel 2 was one of the few JRPGs where I found myself fighting everything near the end of the game just because I had a blast with the combat.
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>>186746712
Here comes the csfag with a victim complex. Nobody said you couldn't like CS, we're just saying that CS has the 2 worst games in the series. You can have them as your favorite, it just means you have shit taste.
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>>186747393
Where her fuckbuddy went?
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>>186747953
I liked the combat too anon, my grip is just the overly long animations that don't really have business being that long.

Cold steel could use some tweeks to balance out nightmare mode, but other then that I feel like the games combat is in the best places the series has ever been
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>Patrick has a crush on Rean's sister
Kinda cute.
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>>186748530
Not at all. 2bh I'll be mad if that little shit ever canonically ends up with her
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post shirley
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>>186748620
Go to bed Rean.
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>>186748530
I hope we can cockblock Patrick even more in the next games.
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>>186748667
Here you go m8
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>>186748667
>>186749298
>same picture
>same quality
>same filetype
>different filesize
I never understood this.
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>>186747470
I just wish we get to explore Heimdallr
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJhL-QZfZ9M
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post erebonian girl
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Towa a cute. A cute!
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>>186750132
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How terrible is the leaked zero translation? Should I just wait for the Geofront version to finish?
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>>186750559
zero fan translation is passable, dry but you'll understand what's going on

ao's leaked translation is a train wreck
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>>186750559
Its awkward in a lot of places but its perfectly playable and you can understand everything. The notebook with spell lists and such is untranslated though. Avoid the current Ao patch though its pretty awful.
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>>186750559

Honestly, considering how the current zero leaked translation only needs a little editing of the dialogue and of graphical text, it's a fucking wonder the finished version isn't out yet. Go for the leak, it's plenty acceptable.
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>>186750202
Cutest TX
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It's sad that Coldsteel is so unbalanced because it would take little to bring it back in line.

Give status effects and evasion diminishing returns, make master quartz physical damage buffs only work on crafts and not s-crafts, make Criminal and Pandora not give any free artes, and make it so that you can't use artes or items after using a chrono burst. There, now you have a balanced game.
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>>186715661
>>186715807
It's actually neither of those. Like, it had the same kind of slow chords this one or Armorica Village does. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKX4-0VH45s
I guess I'll just have to keep looking.
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>>186750883
How about not caring about balance all that much in the first place? None of the games are hard once you're decked out and know what you're doing, even the 3rd's fight on nightmare against Cassius + Loewe isn't hard at all if you come prepared, every game has an exploitable way to win the game, Cs just happens to have a lot of options in that regard, meanwhile it can kill you in 1 go if you're not careful too.
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>>186746237
You played Zero before the 3rd? That kinda spoils some of the stuff the 3rd tried to set up for it.
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>>186744975
>Bullying
You mean "very angry tsundere"
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>>186750869
I unironically like the TX version better because she's more expressive there.
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>>186750559
Bad but I guess it's passable if you're desperate.
Don't think about touching Ao though.
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>Solid as the rock of JUNO
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>>186751281
aside of Renne what else does it spoil?
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>>186751167
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vy-n145WYWc
Found it.
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>>186751182
>Damage controlling CSfag
Cold Steel is broken from the beginning, at least in other games you have to work to break them, and even then you can't break them as badly as CS.
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The best part of CS dub
https://youtu.be/d5gcEf8EeIc?t=2h12m33s
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>>186751167
different anon here, but are you looking for this one anon?
https://youtu.be/Gr8PsV4dIGs

if not, I'm not going to really search too much, can't not 100% sure what you want~
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Played any actual good games lately, /fg/?
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>>186751751
damn it linked the wrong one:

https://youtu.be/MJrD1WOBI3A
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>>186751941
Yeah, that was the one.
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>>186751937
I played Celceta :^)
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>>186751638
I believe that aside from Renne, you also get to understand what Estelle is talking about when they first see a demon in the final dungeon, the setting up for Richard's door towards something, but that one is Ao, so doesn't count, and i guess the fact that Estelle and Joshua were going for Crossbell. Now that i think about it, it's not that big of a fun breaker. You should definitely play it before Ao though that's where most stuff related to Kevin makes no sense at all without the 3rd.

>>186751729
>Everything remotely saying CS is okay is met with this mouth breathing retard

Hey, mongoloid, it may surprise you but i like every single one of the games, and that doesn't mean i can't see how the past ones aren't flawed as well. From sky's earth wall, FC's white gehena spam, SC's all area spells and the single target one for almost no EP, the 3rd with Richard and dark matter EX, Zero with combo crafts and not being remotely challenging, Ao with the rough start but still having OP combo crafts, and spark Dyne spam, plus dodge tanking, and one hit Ko with Wazy's S-craft + a master quartz, all of the games have something.

Once again, CS does have more ways to make it easy, but what i'm trying to say is, that despite all of this, all of the games are enjoyable. You can be a tryhard and min/max if you find it fun, or you can go normally and still find a way to win, either way, all the games have that, CS just happens to have more options like i said.
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Whats the point of gaius
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>>186752304
Having a well functional member in the team, who doesn't have a tragic past or baggage, he's pretty nice.

Elie is kinda similar in a way, but she still has a troublesome past and baggage.
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>>186752304
Audience surrogate for CS1. He's pointless in CS2 but you can't just throw him out.
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>>186752304
a new Gralsritter
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Started up Ys I & II. Keep going in release order or start chronologically with Origin after I & II?
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>>186752304
So Olivier has connections in Nord in case he needs to run away from the country.
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>>186752509
From what I remember, the stuff with the goddesses and sages kind of gets mostly forgotten after that, so breaking the sequence isn't a bad idea. You could catch some stuff you otherwise might forget, like the names of the sages' families.
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>>186752509
I personally recommend jumping to The Ark of Napishtim first, since that one is on the same engine as Origin and Oath, but the gameplay is hardly as refined as those are, so play the more awkward one first.

After that, go Oath, and then Origin, then you can jump to the party based ones, like Celteta, and seven, and then it's 8.
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What did you guys do with Estelle's orbment set up on the final chapter of SC? She's been a support/spell caster for a while now, but I just unlocked her final S-Craft I think and that shit hits hard. Is it worth it to make her more of an attacker rather than a spellcaster to abuse the damage on that?

I'm playing on normal, so I suppose it doesn't matter either way.
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>>186752509
Dawn of Ys immediately after II
No really, actually play it, it has fanservice you'll get because II will still be fresh, and is a good sendoff to the bump system

Then you can move on to Oath/Ark/Origin, and the party ones afterward
V optional if you really want to- it's not awful, it just isn't very Ys
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>>186751729
>Implying it take's any effort to get White Gehenna or Action quartz or spam Earth Wall
>Implying Zero does not just hand you combination crafts as the story progresses
I'm only about 10 hours into CS1 but from everything I've heard its broke as fuck too.
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>>186752509
Remake release order. Don't bother with V.
Maybe play Dawn if you like bumper cars. I don't though.
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>>186752706
Just give her a ruby gem for extra attack, but keep her for support since she's still not remotely close to the level of power as some of the more focused ones, like Olivier/Kloe for arts, and Agate/Vander for physical.
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>>186752136
oh i actually forgot that estelle talks anou that. but she also mentions Weissmann but I guess it isnt much of a spolier since u find out his real name later
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>>186752758
You don't even need combo crafts in Zero. The enemies have 0 aggro so it's very easy to backstab them to get team rush.
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>>186752571
It will never get that bad again, Olivier will just travel across the continent like he would and could now a days..

CS3 might put a political damer on all of that though, considering Osborne is not rreallty dead
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>>186752869
>Weissman
I'm sure that anon has played SC.
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>>186752904
Was talking about bosses in particular. Random encounters were a piss easy for the most part because of the max advantage team rush's. I actually liked that to be honest.
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>>186752904
For normal encounters sure, but try not using them on a nightmare fresh run against those dragons on top of the tower in chapter 4. They're way faster than you, get almost no damage from physical, and if you are casting, they use a giant showave that deals super damage to everyone all over the map and cancels arts.

Not to mention, when you gotta care for escorts.
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>>186752670
>>186752701
>>186752745
>>186752772
Thanks. Wanted to get into the series in anticipation for VIII, even though the systems are obviously different. I don't mind the bumper system, so I might give Dawn a try after.
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>>186753028
>Escorts
You can safely ignore them unless it's the prologue boss. Fuck whoever thought that was a good idea.
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>>186753371
The system might be different but they mostly play the same. Though, humanoid bosses in newer games are pretty underwhelming because the player's gimmicks are better than theirs.
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Pre-order her game and give her back her Crossbell.
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>>186753605
Say that to the first time i started the final chapter section before the IBC building. Thug literally got the first turn and one shot both the people i was supposed to protect. Also yeah, fuck that one part in the prologue in particular, getting their attention does nothing.
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>>186752758
In TiTS you needed to protect yourself with earth wall and heal occasionally. In CS you don't even need that since most bosses won't get a turn. I stopped equipping healing arts after chapter 2 because there's just no need for them. Seriously is there a character that can even TOUCH Rean Schwarzer? Let alone defeat him.
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>>186754128
If you're lucky, it won't be necessary yeah, but most bosses have a 20 on AT delay, and others 0, like Gideon, so the gimmick falls short there.

So unless you're the luckiest guy alive, you're gonna need to heal at some point.
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>>186754128
CS2's final boss literally had to cheat to use his s-craft in the very first turn to force you heal.
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誰かを愛したくて
誰かに愛されたくて
飢えながら→震えながら
夜明けを待っている
夢見て憧れたって
両手を差し出したって
答えなんか
どこにも落ちてはしないさ →どこにも落ちてやしないさ
ずっと追いかけて彷徨って
いっそう捨ててしまいたいのさ →いっそ捨ててしまいたい
飢えるのは 温もりだけ →望んでるのは温もりだけ
つかの間でも
走り出す 何処へ向かうの
突き進むしかないのなら
行く先に何があっても
真っ直ぐに進め軌跡が
答えに
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8sxwHOHdBE
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>>186754224
Faint, seal and sleep still work. By "won't get a turn" I mean they won't be able to act.
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So anon, how are you going to survive her Grand Cross turn steal? Reminder that if it's done in exaltion mode, it's 100% chance to crit, and it may be like 3rd Evo, where she can pierce your immunity.
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>>186754224
I'm pretty sure high speed stat increased delay rate. I beat Vita and Crow without them getting a single turn.

>>186754419
Getting status effects on bosses is pretty hard however.
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>>186754515
Maybe those revive dolls will actually be useful.
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>>186754419
Yeah, getting certain stats to work is annoying but it can happen too.
I personally enjoy the way CS handles debuffs/status on bosses however. Past games have them be immune to most of the shit you can pull off which makes a good chunk of the characters useless against them, but in CS, stuff like Gaius's seal attack can still be pretty useful, but you do have to gamble on it working.
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>>186754335
pft? only 37 and 44 delay?
here, have a better example of delay busting

they really should just make delay an actual status effect so once inflicted the enemy must get a turn before they can be delayed again
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>>186755142
I prioritized high speed so Rean can act over and over while delaying shit. It's more fun that way and the enemies still won't get a turn.
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So far I've been fine with the dub voices in Cold Steel but my god Osbourne's VA is fucking terrible
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>>186755574
Really? He had a bad mixing but otherwise it's fine. Not as good as based Jouji but still.
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>>186755647
It just sounds like someone is trying too hard to do a deep fat man's voice
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How can Class VII girls even compete? I bet she has a thick bush.
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Someone post Fie's midriff
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About to start TX. Who are the best boys/girls that I should spend bonding points with?
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>>186756032
Is she a leoniggas sister
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>>186756032
>tan
HNNNNGG
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>>186756358
Campanella
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>>186748667
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>>186756318
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How worth it is it to bring Tita along to the fourth boss battle in the tower during the final chapter of SC?
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>>186757550
I don't think the boss even acknowledge her.
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>>186757550
You'll get couple lines like "It was fun, Tita".
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>>186757550
Very minimal acknowledgement.
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>>186757479
muh dik
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Post Trails in the Sky preferred party choices:
FC: Joshua, Estelle, Kloe, Olivier
SC: Same
TC: Kevin, Joshua, Kloe, Richard
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>>186758658
Are you me?
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>>186758658
The same but with Ries instead of Joshua.
I couldn't possibly ditch Her Highness from the party.
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>>186758658
Olivier
Olivier
Olivier
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>>186758658
FC: Estelle, Joshua, Olivier, Schera
SC: Estelle, Joshua, Zin, Schera
TC: Kevin, Ries, Richard, Renne

All playthroughs on nightmare
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>>186759051
I love olivier as a person a lot(he saved FC to me) but wow i dont use him for my party
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>>186759051
The absolute madman. Has fucked every woman in Liberl during his brief vacation there.
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>>186758658
FC= Estelle, Joshua, Kloe, Olivier
SC= Estelle, Joshua, Kevin, Olivier
3rd= Kevin, Ries, Richard, Renne
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>>186758658
FC/SC: Joshua, Estelle, Agate, Schera
Too many good combinations in 3rd.
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>>186755142
Delay is getting nerfed in CS3 right?
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>>186758658
FC: Joshua, Estelle, Olivier, Kloe
SC: Agate or Joshua, Estelle, Olivier or Schera, Kloe
3rd: Kevin, Ries, Colonel 'don't call me colonel' Richard, Renne
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>>186759532
Why would Falcom suddenly wake up and balance the game properly?
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>>186759532
>nerfing nothin personnel gameplay balance
why would they do that?
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>>186758998

I love her second outfit. It remind you of the schoolgirl outfit, but somehow manages to look regal and adult.
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>>186759532
>nerfed
Nah. They'll add something even more broken so that no one would complain about AT delay ever again.
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Oh hey it's that thing from Axis Pillar.
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Comfy family lunch.
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>>186759854
It almost feels weird seeing normal length skirts.
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>>186760523
You get used to Erebonian degeneracy.
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>>186760798
Why is she look tired all the time?
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>>186751729
>Cold Steel is broken from the beginning

Cold Steel gives you jack shit at the beginning.

You can start breaking it right around the time you can start breaking the other games.
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>>186753864

It's going to be so anti climactic when she decides not to go back to Crossbell.
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>>186761243
She'll stay in erebonia to suck Rean's dick.
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>>186761243
>I don't need crossbell anymore, I have Osborne's dick now
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>>186761376
You mean Kurt
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>>186761415
She'll be one of Rean's girls, just like the rest of Class VII.
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>>186761164
Nah, you get aoe delay, seal, sleep and regen right from the start.
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>>186760889
Rean doesn't give her much time to recover.
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>>186761164
>What is Elliot def+ hp+
>What is Rean aoe delay+impede, str+
Just those first two are enough to cruise until you get the retarded shit like domination.
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>this is heavy, be careful carrying it
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>>186761843
So which quest in trails is the worst one: this, Zero's fishing quest or CS's finding sheep all around Nord?
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>>186761924
I'm enjoying this one so far, the music is excellent, and the black orbment mystery is getting interesting. I'll see about those other two when I get there.
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>>186762042
Wait, is this FC? If so, nevermind.
The one I'm talking about is in SC's chapter 8 and involves backtracking on foot from Zeiss to fucking Ruan.
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>>186760523
>>186760798

I wonder who could be responsible for these mandatory short skirts.
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>>186762101
Yes, that's FC. Zeiss to Ruan doesn't sound that bad, the walk isn't very long.
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Why do americans hate liberl
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>>186762101
Zeiss to Ruan is easy. The problem is the fucking river cutscene.
I know the point behind it but that doesn't make it less painful.
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>>186763141
i hate liberl but im not american
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>>186763141
I'm American and I love Liberl
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>Just finished the Loewe fight in SC

That shit was on Normal and it was still scary. I can't imagine how fucking awful that fight is on Nightmare.
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>>186764824
It was literally nightmare
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>>186764824
Kevin and zeram capsules turn Loewe into a little bitch.
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>>186764813
>Spaghetti hair
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>>186764948

I'm all for lewd Emma.

But those lips are dumb, stop posting it.
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>>186764948
Emma is pure don't lewd her
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PB9xkXuHquo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22qqs9jucn8

Which was the better final dungeon theme?
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>>186766450
CS
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>>186766450
A Light Illuminating The Depths > Phantasmal Blaze> Castle of Illusions (Phantasmagoria) = To Grasp Tomorrow = Hollow Light of the Sealed Land >> Central Tower "Axis Pillar"
Can't comment on Ao's for the lack of hearing it.
There was one huge problem with Zero's final dungeon though, and that is the theme being interrupted for the battles. I never imagined I'd start disliking Formidable Enemy.
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>>186766982
I get what you mean with Formidable Enemy. I got tired of hearing the first part of it over and over again in that dungeon but after getting away from it for a while I still love it especially the super arrange version
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>>186767219
Yeah, I still like the theme itself, but as you can see I was really into the dungeon theme and coming after 3rd where Castle of Illusions kept playing in the battles I wanted it to do the same.
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The "Unconverted East" will end up being the setting of the Gagharv games
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>>186766982
Phantasmal Blaze is too good for CS.
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>>186767582
Gagharv continent is typical Dragon Quest world.
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I love elise
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>>186768534
Shut up, Patrick.
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>>186766982
Ao music is pretty great.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlBLyfet_jI
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>>186768934
I'm going through it right now, at the start of Ch3.
I might be delusional, but I think I heard similarities between the song that played during the attack on Orchis Tower and Atrocious Raid.
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>>186768934
It took way too long to the best part
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Playing Tokyo Xanadu ex+ and I got too many deja wu here, appearance or personality or both.

Kou Tokisaka - Rean from CS
Hiiragi Asuka - Ellie from Zero and Ao
Sora Ikushima - Kloe from TotS
Sio Takahada - Jusis from CS
Mitsuki Hokuto - Emma from CS?
Yuuki Sinomiya - Boy version of Tio from Zero and Ao by personality
Rion Kugayama - Risya Mao from Ao
Jun Kohinata - Eliot from CS
Gorou Saeki - Kevin from TotS
Siori Kurashiki - Elise from CS with much shorter hair
Towa Kokonoe - Towa straight from CS
Ibuki Ryota - Olivier from TotS by personality
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>>186769431
All anime is extremely archetypal.
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>>186769431
Falcom characters are all archetypes. But how did you get Elie from Asuka? Elie isn't a two-faced bitch.
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I Still own my psp does this toutrial work with a normal psp (not ppsspp)?
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bz9wIS0c_0WWdlFMNDNUaHhTRW8/view
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>>186769748
Appearance itself.
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>>186769431
>Hiiragi
>Ellie

No??? and Sora isnt Kloe
Did u even play the game i stopped reading
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>>186769882

>>186769431
>appearance or personality or both.

I assume keyword here is OR.
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>>186769431
>Yuuki - Boy version of Tio
He has a name you know
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>ywn be a hacker living a comfy life and browsing the Orbal Net in a secret Geofront room
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>>186769837
Long-haired bishoujo is the clichest of cliche.
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>>186771071
Completed Ao two years ago so I forgot his name. Thanks for reminding.
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Are really nobles looking down to commoners in europe?
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>>186772227
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2k1iRD2f-c
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>>186774165
Why are those pancakes so small?
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>>186774551
small girl usually doesnt eat big pancakes like amerifats
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>>186774605
>big
They are almost smaller than the cup.
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>>186774740
but that cup is a big
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>>186774984
But why would a small girl need such a big cup?
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>>186775304
lot of females have constipation because of female hormone. so they need to drink many water
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>>186775584
But there's no toilets in trails so they obviously don't need to poop.
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>>186774551
Rude.
Don't talk about the rabbits like that.
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>>186775778
Yeah, girls don't poop.
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>>186763141
Because chan posters are usually fringe right wing/ fascists and thus prefer Erebonia.

/pol is unfortunately not a myth. For years I thought it was just a meme joke but it actually exists. The absolute madmen.
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>>186762101
I liked SC's chapter 8a lot. It really drove home just how dependent on orbal tech everyone is.
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I love Fie's midriff.
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>>186751182
I don't play games for the difficulty anyway, if I want to challenge myself I won't be doing it playing games. Steam rolling everything in CS2 was actually fun.

But to each their own.
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>>186776013
Thats not the definition of the word, dont go around calling things that hurt your feelings fascist. Its unbecoming.
Especially while posting sure a pure example of Liberl royalty.
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>>186774165
A-Mi-Ku-Ga.
Ku is for Kuu-chan, Claiomh Solais.
Ga is for Gaa-chan, Airgetlamh.
Who are the other 2?
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>>186776457
t. csbabby
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>>186776013

>Klaudia Von Anschluss
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>>186750559
It's fine
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>>186776658
Out of curiosity I poked around wiki and found two things that might or might not be the one Mi refers to.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murgleys
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mistilteinn
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>>186776658
Altina and Millium?
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>>186777447
Yeah that checks out, guess I was overthinking it.
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>>186774165
Do you think we'll get to see Altina break down like her sister did?
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>>186777698

Sure. When the artificial humans realize that their lifespan is deliberately set to be 20 years.
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>>186777698
Yeah, after she dies and her body starts to break down.
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What does altina smell like
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>>186779273
quartz, saline, and that new car leather smell.
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>>186754515
The same way I soloed McBurn, and Crow and Vita with Rean (nightmare mode, NG+, no items), by using the lost art: artemis tears to heal to twice my maximum HP and tank their all cancel S-Crafts. Unless her grand cross is upgraded to do that.
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>>186779273
Like Rean.
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>>186779273
NO!!!!!!
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>>186780387
Im still genuinely worried Claire is gong to be written out of the story mostly. There's so much unrecorded text in the games though I could also seem them just having her unvoiced
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>>186780764
I want to find the person who invented the meme about how the Japanese CANNOT recast characters or change their voice actresses

They did a great job of propagating that meme.
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>>186780764
She can't be written out. She's Osborne's daughter and Rean's sister. Cap this, you know in your heart it is true
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>>186781298
Its happened
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>>186781431
>Altina recast
>Wald recast
>Cedric recast

That's only a short sample in Kiseki.

Feel free to explain why Claire cannot be recasted.
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>>186781319
Are you implying Osborne was fucking his daughter?
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>>186780764
We literally saw an ass shot of her on the last dengeki magazine, she's not out of the story.
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>>186781638
No, anon, he hasn't been fucking Claire.
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>>186781638
Claire is a virgin.
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>>186781670
It was in that mini OST PV.
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>>186781721
Ah right, my mistake.
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>>186781676
He likes to watch?
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If that TL anon is here, do this one and i'll typeset like usual.
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I can fap to this
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Also, a bunch of Sharon art is coming out.
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>>186782487
What the fuck is her deal, even Sen II didnt really get into it
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>>186782259
I don't know who the normal translator is but that's pretty basic stuff:

Welcome back Lean-sama

A meal has been prepared for you
Sasuga Shalon san, always prepared

A bath has also been prepared
Sasuga indeed

A bed has also been prepared
Aren't you a little too prepared?!
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>>186782637
Whatever it is, it's getting answered in Sen III since she's helping Ouroboros this time, and seems to dislike it, since she probably has to do it out of a sense of obligation/gratitude towards the grandmaster, or someone in Ouroboros.
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>>186782731
She mentions she lost her chance to get out of the society, specifically referencing Joshua and Renne, and seems to be upset by that.
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>>186782731
Sharon was teen pregnant and Ouroboros has her baby with a rare disease that requires intensive care

She is a hostage to the plan.
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>>186782731
That's not sharon. >>186782637 is the maid to the florald family (purple haired girl rival to alisa and purple hair guy running away from fatass girl)
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>>186782972
Its Sharon, look at the wires.
Sariffa is also a top tier maido though.
Same with the one you bring the dishes to.

The grancel maids were cute too, and Lila is amazing.

This series has so many good maids.
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>>186782259
>she even prepared Alisa in the bed too
Sasuga.
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>>186783140
I was commenting on the pic, didn't realise that itself was commenting on >>186782487
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>>186782972
Anon.
That's Roberta from Black Lagoon.
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>>186783396
Its still not Sariffa, its a Black Lagoon character. I was being cheeky.
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>>186783523
>Implying sarifa isn't terminator maid
Unless it turns out she can't catch up to a car on foot, her "disguise" isn't fooling anyone.
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So it's pretty much confirmed that McBurn is future Rean, right? There's no other way to explain why he continues to participate when he has no particular need to and appears to have no specific motivation.
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Considering mcburn walks around with his chest exposed, and there isn't a scar to be seen unlike with rean, I'm pretty sure that isn't the case.

As for his apathy, apparently (I think it's just from the monogatari manga?) even Loewe was warned that his divergent laws sword would amplify his impulses and emotions out control, and he had to deliberatly surpress them. Probably the same applies to both McBurn and Rean, one at a different stage than the other.
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>>186784331
Where is a scar
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>>186782705
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>>186784965
Cute.
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>>186782731

The thing is that she only cared about keeping Alisa and her friends safe. She never intended to stop the plan. As long as Ouroboros doesn't harm her employer, then she will help them out.
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>>186784331

After his refreshing exercise session with Viscount Arseid he has all the reason to stick around. He just wants some fun.
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>>186785429
Gee Loewe why does Falcom let you have 2 disguises?
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>>186785429
I'm not so sure about that, she seemed pretty sad in the artwork showing Ouroboros. She may have to something that may cause problems for Reinford.
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>>186785565
Unironically wish we got FemRean.
Jusis needs a fuck that isnt Paula or other boys
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>>186785757
Uh, Millium?
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>>186786305
Jusis is not a degenerate.
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>>186786305
>artificial waifu
What's next? Fucking your robot?
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>>186786709
He's the head of one of the four great houses, Jusis can waifu a test tube loli if he wants. Who is gonna tell him no?
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>>186761924
Zero's Cooking quest.
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>>186785723

There is absolutely nothing stopping her from leaving the organization. In other words, the organization's goals coincides with something she really wants, it then becomes a bit sad if that goal then clashes with her desire to serve the Reinfords. But that is what she really wants.
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>>186787005
>Who is gonna tell him no?
Osbourne and Rufus
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One month to go and trailer when?
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>>186787239
I assume it may be that she feel indebted to them, we don't know her past, but i'm going to take a guess and assume her situation is similar to Renne and Joshua, where she was saved by them.
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37 days left: fan favourite Edgelord "ALL OF ME" McBurn's turn.
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>>186787910
Phantom Thief B stole it
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>>186787910

I don't think there's gonna be one.
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>>186788345
Where are the riddles then? I'm sure we can all get together to solve them so he'll return it.
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>>186789921
Who is the best girl?
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>>186787910
28 aug
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>>186788345
Not gonna lie, if Falcom suddenly decided to pull an ARG out of their ass I'd flood my apartment with cum.
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>>186790131
Forget it, we're doomed.
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>>186758658
FC: Joshua, Estelle, Kloe, Olivier
SC: Joshua, Estelle, Zin, Olivier
TC: Kevin, Richard, Renne, Tita

>all these people not using based Tita in 3rd
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Noel just joined my party, who should I stick on support?
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>>186790837
I benched Elie, personally.
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>>186790616

Tita is garbage. Zin is superior.
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>>186790837
Noel.
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>>186790616
>not using Tita in the 3rd with her husband
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>>186791041
That's what I'm thinking since her crafts are a bit shit right now. I was just wondering if someone else had a better support ability than her heal.
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>>186791076
>Orbal Gear Tita is garbage
you nigga what
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>>186790837
Noel, Elie's arts and healing craft can save your ass on a tight spot. Assuming you're playing on hard/nightmare, that is. Otherwise just do what you want.
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>>186791041
I benched her the second time for reasons. I benched Randy the first time.
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>>186792094
>Benching Randy
Unbelievable
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>>186792094
>benched Randy
This is some pretty high level heresy.
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>>186792184
>>186792337

I needed to see what his support craft was. Wasn't worth it so I just swapped him back in.
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>>186792094

You don't bench the best frontliner in the game.
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>>186793047
Shits already a joke. Hell I am not even level 40 and I am doing more than 10k damage. That shit is broken.
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>>186792902
>what his support craft was
BURNING DIVIDE
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>Zeito, kitty.
No Tio, he's a dog.
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I tried TITS but couldn't get into it so I'm NG+ing CS. Guess I'm just a pleb
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>>186795068
Why couldn't you though?
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>>186795068
Honestly I had to take my time finishing FC. SC and especially the 3rd felt like a breeze. It's a great journey though.
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>>186795431
That Zeiss looks comfy as fuck.
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>>186795068
I played a lot of games in between chapters when I first started. Took me almost a year to finish FC on and off.
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>>186795431
ARUKO WADA for CALVARD
DEPORT sen Illustrator retard who can only draw one face
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>>186795068
FC was really difficult for me to finish as well so it took a lot of time. But SC was better and I didn't even realize when I was done. 3rd was somewhere in the middle cause I missed npcs and I'm not that fond of too much dungeon crawling. I'm not that crazy about sky overall but it was definitely worth it.
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>Chapter 3 quest in Armorica
>everything sounds super great for both the village and the Quints company
God I will be fucking livid when shit inevitably goes wrong and Derrick is made to be the one in the wrong because MUH TRADITIONS
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>>186795068
>watching Diebuster but not Gunbuster
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>>186796063
TiTS illustrations were embarrassingly bad.
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>>186796310
You mean the stuff related to the mayor of Armorica and his son trying to innovate for the village and bring new stuff, but his father is ultra conservative?

Yeah that one was annoying me too. I've yet to play Ao, so i don't know how that one ends.
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>>186796663
Yeah, spoilers for that quest: Derrick makes a contract with an international confectionery company to export and process Armorica's honey and lend them that empty lot with the storehouse to build a factory there.
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>>186796919
Did the father die of a heart attack?
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>>186796310
There's nothing wrong with keeping the village a quiet picturesque place though. If you want to modernize everything might as well go to the city. But anyway there's plenty of that subplot in ao and after some shit on Derrick's part they agree to meet in the middle and all's well that ends well.
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>>186797034
No, he's just at the village and asks you to investigate what his son's been doing because he was supposedly acting strange and was rarely home for a while.
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>>186797142
I think i didn't make that sound jokey enough, i meant to ask if the father flipped the fuck out over it.
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Do you have the smarts to handle these?
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>>186797430
I guess Tio doesn't like to share.

>Using a paper bag to carry heavy metals

Over the line.
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>>186797219
Oddly enough no, he just sits there and takes it while going on about how he's pathetic for not even being able to make his son talk to him about that.
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>>186797530
Unlike Renne she still has some dignity left.
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>>186797219
No but everyone did when they found out they were getting badly conned.
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>>186796063
Anon, the picture you replied to is not by Wada Arco.
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>Zero runs perfectly on my computer but looks like a bowl of emulated dicks regardless of what settings use
>It looks decent on my phone but gets huge fps dips

Please send help.
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>>186799572
Get a PSP
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>>186799221
That cover art looks like shit.
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Renne makes zero x10 better
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>>186799572
There's an option that increases framerate but it fucks up the map and probably a few other things. Got stable framerate on my phone with that feature enabled but I didn't play it that much.
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So how bad is zero's translation?
Worse than gagharv trilogy?
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>>186800396
no
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>>186800396
No. Zero's translation is fine.
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>>186800396
Zero is sort of ok. Gagharv is unsalvageable.
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>>186792094
>benching Randy ever
I will never bench my nigga Randy. I even use him as the lead control character whenever I can to pretend he's the MC and not Lloyd.
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>>186800515
>>186800763
Is it?
I've read a lot of complaints online, were they grossly unjustified?
As for Ao I read it's outspokenly machine translated so I assume that one is bad for real.
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>>186801079
To be fair, his field attack is the best one, so it's not a bad idea.
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>>186801196
>were they grossly unjustified?
Yes. Believe it or not, there are people who are so assblasted by the very idea of people using that fan translation patch that they will shit on it and lie about it without even playing it just to push people away from trying it.
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>>186801196
It's basically quite literal, and didn't go through the editing process to make the line stop sounding awkward, so download it and take a look if you think it's ok. There are some odd things along the way, but it all makes sense.
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>>186801196
It's stiff and literal. But I don't think it ruins the game so much that you shouldn't play it. Stay away from Ao though.
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>>186800396
Zero's translation doesn't seem too bad. It's just unpolished. You just come across the occasional weird phrasing or typo.
I don't know why a lot of people act like it's google translate or some shit.
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>>186801079
You are a good man.
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>>186801196
You'll understand whats happening and get a feel for the personalities but the dialogue is really stiff and unnatural, your enjoyment of it will depend on how much you can deal with that. For me it completely took me out of it.
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>>186801717
why not read the spreedsheets? they are not that hard. but i guess it was fine for me since I have some Japanese knowledge
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>>186801196
Ao is a lot more questionable because only the main quest and most sidequests are translated, and only at an average level, at best. Everything else, like random NPC dialogue and unique bonding dialogue, are actually machine translated.

Literally only worth of you really want to know the main story.
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>>186801825
Personally, I like to keep my party gender balanced.
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>>186801862
The spreadsheet is extremely rough and has mistranslations though, the guy who made them himself admitted that, since he did in a rough manner.

The patch has everything translated, without being mistranslated just rather literal.
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>>186802010
I just tried to give my bro a harem for a little. I rarely use Elie or Noel anyway.
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>>186801825
Did you forget your game was on when you left? I beat the game in less time than that.
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>>186801516
>>186801627
>>186801717
>>186801394
If the problem is it being too literal and awkward at times I don't mind that, as many official translations are the same.
As long as the translation itself is correct and doesn't alter the meaning, that is.
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>>186802241
Just download it and check.
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>>186802118
I noticed some mistranslations in zero. but does it go on ao? Im playing the evo versions too so I think its easeir for me to notice those
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>>186802225
Could be. I get distracted easily. I do talk to every npc every time though so it might not be too far away from the truth.
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>>186802380
Ao does have a few. You can still get what's going on, but it's not translated completely accurately, but more in a way to get the point across.
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>>186787910
Randy is a really big guy
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>>186802380
Ao is full of them.
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>>186802339
nice cherry picking, faggot
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>>186802339
Checking a 100 hours long game can be hard you know.
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>>186802646
I didn't say it was horrible though, i'm telling him to download and check to see if he can put up with it. I played through it and made it sense, stop being a sensitive little bitch.

>>186802702
He can check how the prologue feels for him though, and some NPCs.
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>>186802427
I talked to most of them at the start of each chapter or near the end, not so much in the middle.
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>>186802752
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>>186802339
cousin is actually german for cuisine, so it makes sense in the fiction
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>>186802380
Ao is a mess but EOPs will still try to sugarcoat it. There's some parts where he's so blatantly guessing and others where he literally writes the opposite of what the character said. The most baffling thing was when he adding a note about x being a 3d reference and then completely ruined it cause he had no idea who's who.
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>>186803158
Some other lines are translated as cuisine though. It was probably a fuck up someone made when translating.
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>>186803318
I was just joking
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>>186803165
well. thanks for the info.I didnt start ao yet but im planing to. good thing he added the Japanese text in this one.
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>>186803523
There are parts of the spreadsheet that don't include the japanese text
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>>186803523
You mean in the spreadsheet? Actually I think there's quite a few parts where there's no jp text. And it's just main scenes+most sidequests. So you are still on your own for npcs, hidden sidequests, and basically all extra scenes and small details.
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>>186802935
Is there a hq version of this picture?
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>>186803908
ah thats sucks. and nah im fine with handling npc and sidequests. i done most of the sidequests without his help (zero) but reading the spreadsheet actually helped shorting how long iv played since jp sen1 took around 120 for me to beat
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>>186803940
>>186803165
So what you're saying is that the people who herald Ao as the pinnacle of the series' writing are just memesters who only got a rough idea of what was happening?
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>>186804210
Yup
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>>186804210
The game is good, and the main twist is probably the best one in the series so far, but people are only getting a small part of the experience really.
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>>186804210
Of course, literally no one knows japanese here.
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shitty general for a shitty series
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>>186804035
this is the only other better image i own
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So Zero's translation is fine but Ao's isn't, correct?
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>>186804490
Zero's is workable and mostly accurate, Ao's is not.
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>>186804210
The game is good enough that you can appreciate it even like this. Also you are conveniently ignoring it but we've always had people saying Ao is boring. And of course there's obviously people who played it in japanese. It's easy to tell the difference after a while. Just like we can tell you are shitposting.
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>>186758658
FC: Estelle, Joshua, Kloe, Olivier
SC: same
3rd: Kevin, Renne, Alan "le fast crafts man" Richard, Ries/Kloe
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>>186804481
Good enough. Thanks.
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>Think Sora is pretty cute in TX, plan to spend all bonding points on her
>She jumps all over Yuuki's dick as soon as he joins

Is this what it feels like to be cucked?
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>>186804871
Bit of a metagamer's party lad.
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>>186804890
Maybe the game is trying to tell you self-inserting is a mistake.
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>>186804873
I like Wazy and Noel a lot so it sucks for me. u are welcome
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No wonder the nips hated CS.

Ao really does spoil everything.
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>>186804789
>Also, you are you conveniently ignoring the people you weren't referring to or talking about
Wat
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>>186805035
Maybe they shouldn't make the MC such a bland self-insert then.
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>>186805239
You only mention the positive comments in an exaggerated manner to make your argument seem better while ignoring that there's been negative comments too and making it sound like there's no way people who actually played Ao and claim it's great can exist.
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>>186804584
I see, that's a pity.
So currently there's no way to play Ao if you don't know Japanese: is someone going to release a spreadsheet or something like that in the future?
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>>186805098
I don't think you actually got to know that they tried to fire the cannons but used blanks. Since there was no mention of the cannons being used in Ao during the trade conference.
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>>186758658
FC: Estelle, Joshua, Agate, Olivier
SC: Estelle, Joshua, Agate, Kevin
TC: Kevin, Ries, Richard, Renne/Olivier
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>>186805562
I'm clearly talking about the people who claim that Ao is the greatest thing thing since sliced bread and that all the other games are shit in comparison. But sure. Maybe there are a bunch of Japanese speaking players frequenting this thread for the last few weeks who have that opinion.
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Lloyod is fun caring father but why do so many people like him? I get why people like estelle but its hard for me to get the lloyod love (and rean hate)
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>>186806212
It's just shitposting and baitposting
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>>186806212
Nobody actually likes lloyd
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>>186806113

There was a new patch that inserted the spreadsheet all the english secondaries used before into the game.
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>>186806212
He's mild and inoffensive so he doesn't upset anyone also easy to self insert into.
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>>186804962
guilty as charged, frankly
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Why is she so smug?
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>>186806113
No one's saying that unless it's cs vs crossbell shitposting time again and people exaggerate on purpose like you are doing now. Sure there's plenty of eops who can't properly judge but it's obvious there's some people who know japanese and it's easy to realize it after a bit.
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>>186802752
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>>186806584
If you admit it then its not a problem lad.
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>>186806645
To hide her crippling depression.
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>>186806508
Yeah, he's generic done right. He's never particularly annoying and goes well enough with everyone without sucking all the character out of them. I could do with another va though.
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>>186807016
Sometimes it feels like i'm the only one who liked his voice.
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>>186807256
>not wanting to impregnate the test tube loli
shit taste
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>>186805643

>blanks
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>>186807116
I do to but to be honest there is not much to like or dislike in zero, i don't know about the evo versions.
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>>186807402

CROSSBELL DID NOTHING WRONG
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>>186807402
I said during the trade conference, not the one that actually fires real shots later on in Ao's chapter 4.
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>>186807402
>>186807839
>>186807853
Crossbell did unironically literally absolutely nothing wrong.
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>>186805098
Nips don't care about spoilers. And neither do I.

The journey is as important as the destination. Nobody went full autism in 1999 when Phantom menace came out (yes I'm old).
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>>186808321
>old enough to remember ep1
>old
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>>186807402
So why did Reinford allow themselves to basically building a giant genocide machine for Crossbell again?
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>>186805098

Sums up all of CS 1's finale other than crow right here.
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>>186807839
>Reality warper mech
>got beaten by SSS
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>>186808471
Deterrent against Calvard, that was targeted at Crossbell.
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>>186808553
Justice always wins. Their justice just happened to be stronger. Besides Aions were just getting unlimited energy from Kea not reality warping powers.
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>>186801717
Zero fan TL reminds me of JRPGs in the 90s.
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>>186808764
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>>186808321
The fuck is it with collars and chokers in this series.
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>>186808590
Yeah, but Alisa's grandfather regrets the shit out of it, it's basically a weapon to keep an entire city hostage, and not really a weapon of war. That shit is made for mass killing civilians.
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>>186808321
Why is KeA so lewd
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>>186808553
I think it wasn't being powered for that stuff when they actually fought.
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>>186808960
Sounds like a pretty effective weapon of war to me.
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>>186801394
Some deluded Xseed cultists hate fan translations because they think it will impact Xseed sales when the official localisation is announced.

I don't think the Crossbell games will ever get offical releases and even if they did it would take years.
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>>186808960
>not really a weapon of war. That shit is made for mass killing civilians.
Thats the point. The key word is: deterrent.
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>>186808907
Black belts in dick sucking
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>>186808960
Because he's a nice guy but he's the minority. The guy on top and Erebonia's image in general is all about making sure everyone knows they can invade and annex you if they feel like it.
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>>186808960
>That shit is made for mass killing civilians.
If they aren't actively rebelling against their leaders then they enable the war machine as much as their soldiers.
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>>186809225
Can Erebonia really use it though? That would pretty much give Calvard an excuse to rally every other nation against Erebonia.
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>>186808960

His daughter had too much jew in her to resist the shekels coming from the government.
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>>186809702
Oh right, he it was Alisa's mother who allowed it, and he just oversaw the project right? Then she backstabbed him by getting the shareholders to agree on kicking him out of the company.
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>>186809560
So far as we know, Calvard is the only major power big enough to be a threat to Erebonia.
Liberl defended themselves from either using politics, technology, and luck.
Whats Ambria gonig to do, throw salt at them.

Maybe the Church could step in if they thought Erebonia was getting out of hand
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>>186809560
Irrelevant to its usage as a deterrent, just look at nuclear deterrents in real life, using one would likely result in the complete annihilation of both parties yet its not worth calling their bluff.
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>>186809515
Yeah, how DARE those Crossbell civilians let themselves be forcibly invaded by a much larger and powerful country? They brought their destruction on themselves.
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>>186809787
The Church would have reason to retaliate too since a fairly big cathedral of the church is also found in Crossbell, not to mention all the nuns and priests who live there.
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>>186809417
Not to mention that if Erebonia makes a WMD Calvard has too as well. It sets of a dangerous chain.
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>>186809928
Well I expect Crossbell will resist in due time, wouldn't be surprising for Calvard to covertly assist that rebellion.
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>>186810020
Or it brings them relative peace with no direct conflict because of the threat posed by one.
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>>186809914
Is not the same, though. If they could use it to hit Calvard, it would be valid, but it can only target Crossbell. And I don't think Calvard gives that much of a fuck about Crossbell citizens.
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>>186809787
Ambria can used scorched earth tactics to prevent enemy invasion.
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>>186810020
Exactly. If Calvard's managed to keep fighting Erebonia for all these years with no clear winner you can't underestimate them.
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>Legendary weapons fashioned from zemurian ore.

>+300 strength

>Random pipes Lloyd found on the ground.

>+350 strength.
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>>186810156
Its a deterrent against any action by or involving Crossbell.
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>>186810086
They'll get their independence because Rean and his trainschool will somehow liberate them as part of a tangentially related plan to embarrass/kill his dad.
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>>186810145
It's way too risky though, at some point, some situation could escalate and that shit gets fired and then the whole world gets fucked because of trigger happy autists in those countries. You never know with these things. The cons outweigh the pros, but even then, at some point in time, it could be used by someone less concerned for it.
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>>186810221
Which is insanely immoral. They're basically holding another country hostage to spite and hamper their actual enemy.
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>>186810156
>but it can only target Crossbell.
The entire point WAS to hit Crossbell. If Calvard made a move to seize Crossbell, then they would fire it. As long as they've got Crossbell in the sights, Calvard has to sit pretty on their side.
When the guns got destroyed, it made all of Erebonia tense because now there was nothing to stop Calvard from annexing Crossbell and then invade Erebonia proper
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>>186810221
My point is that erebonia using it could potentially benefit Calvard more. Sacrificing Crossbell to make Erebonia the enemy of the world sounds like a good deal. So is not really a good deterrent.
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>>186810418
>Elliot finds a painful way to end it all
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>>186810367
Duh. Erebonia is shit, Osbourne is a monster, Imperial Chronicle is toilet paper and the sky is azure. I mean there's a reason CS is the seventh game in the series.
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>>186810291
Or the same thing that occurred post 1945 to now happens and cooler heads prevail because people really don't want to kill millions of people for no tangible gain.

Besides once the scientific theory exists the cat is out of the bag and refusing to build your own just gives the other side free reign.
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>>186809174
These SoL pictures are nice. Need to hurry up and finish Zero.
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>>186810367
>Which is insanely immoral. They're basically holding another country hostage to spite and hamper their actual enemy.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_East_Germany

Have a read.
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Well, that is Olivier for you, i was sure it was the maintenance airship from the Zeiss company
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>>186810464
They are already the enemy. If the world could do something they would have done it already instead of hiding behind pacts and giant robots and/or getting annexed. You can only win from the inside at this point. It's why Olivier's been trying so hard.
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>>186810367
War is war, it sucks but in the end it stops a full scale war.
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it's happening
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>>186810834
>Wasting time with more shitty dubbing
I'm a little annoyed by this news.
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>>186810145
True, but remember that the US and Russia almost went to war a few times.
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>>186810464
Theres no other powers big enough to make that much of a threat and it would require Calvard to make the aggressive move in full knowledge of what it would cause, they could easily wait for it to fill up with Calvardian troops before firing to justify it to a point where Liberl and others are going to be hard pressed going to war.
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Oh shit the music from the 3rd, that makes the scene with Osborne from it even better.
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>>186810923
>implying Ferris' dub voice wasn't top tier
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>>186810923
Why get annoyed about it? I mean, if they think it's fine to add more quality to the port, and voices without it being a problem money wise, it shouldn't bother you.
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>>186811074
They could take that time and use it on something else so we could get the port before December.
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>>186810740
>>186811006
True enough. I mean destroying crossbell could force the church and bracer HQ to step in, but that's speculation and I certainly wouldn't bet thousand of lives on it.
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>>186811007
I played CS before Sky, but that door was so good. I was a little curious about the pointed gun flashback, I figured it was supposed to be something from the trade conference. I think my jaw actually dropped a little when he shot the roses in 3rd
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>>186811006

>implying the Church and their God isn't the true big bad like every other JRPG ever.
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>>186810996
There was the Berlin crisis in addition to Cuba.
Both were skating on thin ice.
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>>186808969
You should see some of her alternate designs.
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>>186810996
We would have seen large scale conflict between NATO and the Warsaw Pact if it hadn't have been for the presence of nuclear weapons making it impossible. There were flashpoints where we came close but they always ended up with backing down because no one wants to cause the death of billions of people. The only winning move is not to play.
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>>186811137
They'd take their time anyway to make sure most bugs wouldn't make it to release anyway, the voices are probably being done in conjunction with the work on the port.
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>>186811074
>Persona 5 was delayed two months to fix the shitty dub
>"Why are you mad that they're adding more quality?"
>Everyone with sense played with the sub anyway
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>>186811137
VA's aren't programmers
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>>186811398
They would have been editing the script I assume as well, not just the dub
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I'm new to the series red pill me on bonding points in trails of cold steel please.
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>>186811550
Do you really need something that simple explained to you?
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>>186811503
There were parts of the script they couldn't even fix because the lines had already been recorded. It'd be funny if it wasn't so sad.

Dubs are a complete mistake.
It's to a game's detriment to even provide one.
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>>186811398
>fix
The dub's specific problems people identified long before it came out were unchanged because it was a direction from Japan. The delay was most likely because they didn't budget properly to get the whole port finished by the original target date, and the final product was still rushed and in need of another round of polish.
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>>186811612
>It's to a game's detriment to even provide one.
Games need to sell in the US to make money, and Americans want everything in english.
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>>186811704
I'm not talking about sales I'm talking about quality.
If the game needs to be lower quality to make sales it's still lower quality.
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>>186811607
I mean does it matter down the road who you used them on early on? are the bonuses for some better than others
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>>186812275
Its all fluff, dont worry about it.

Just pick the characters you like
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>>186812275
https://pastebin.com/4H1RLgmy
If you care about achievements and getting all the profiles just use the profiles section of that pastebin, otherwise just go with whoever you find most interesting or follow your dick. Games not difficult enough for it to actually matter
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>>186812275
It's mostly for the events really, gameplay benefits are fairly small.

Just use cheat engine and give yourself points when needed for everyone available at certain spots.
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>>186812439
Don't freeze the points though, you can break the game.
Just refresh them as needed.
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>>186812535
To add to this anon, basically, count how many people have events available, change the current bonding points and max to the number of events available, click the box to add them, and then, un check it, since the effect already took place. If you keep the option checked, the game can get stuck in certain missions
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>>186804890
>Not spending the points in best Rion

Though Sora is pretty nice too. And Mitsuku. All the girls are great except Asuka who is just ok.
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>>186812987
Reminder that Shio is best girl.
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It's interesting to play Zero and see that a lot of the additions I liked in Coldsteel actually came from it.
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>>186812112
Sure but videogames are not art.

The only reason they are made is for money. If there's no money Falcom employees will quit and do something else. They have mortgages to pay too.
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>>186814067
y'know they'd actually be a pretty cute couple
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>>186816928
I could definitely see it being kind of like Estelle/Joshua where Estelle is so energetic and bright she just burns all the darkness out of Joshua. But Rean is less 'dark' and more just a little bitch.
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I hope Patrick's dad is a nice guy
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>>186817149
Eh, he's just got self-esteem/self-doubt issues, and they don't even come up all the time. They'd make good training partners, at the very least.
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>>186817714
>and they don't even come up all the time
Just wait until CS2
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>>186802515
>playing Ao with the spreadsheet patched in
>get to a sidequest, everything's ok
>suddenly Japanese
>check spreadsheet
>(this part was boring so I skipped it)
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>Sylph Wing
>Sylphen Guard
>Sylpharion

Wind quartz has such shit arts.
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>>186817864
>Aerial
But not totally useless.
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>>186817794
>it's actually important foreshadowing
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So all the second years are gone in CS2 right?
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>>186817962

I have a hateboner for aerial since the animation for it is so slow.
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>>186818694
It does take a while, but with a sepith bonus it works even better.
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>>186818230
After, because CS2 still takes place during the CS1 school year.
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;_;

She deserves so much better. I made a point to buy honey from her occasionally, even if I didnt really need it.
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>>186820174
Ah, that's good to hear. I'm only partway through CS1 but I love a lot of the 2nd years. Vincent and his maid especially.
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>>186820298
Lambert, Loggins, and Friedel are also pretty great.
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>>186820908
Yeah, Dorothee and the Fidelio always fretting over her 'interests' is great too. Second years are great.
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>>186821121
Im going to be really disappointed if Dorothee doesn't show up in 3.
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>>186821632
Congrats
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>>186822367
Fantastic
>Annebelle too
It just keeps getting better.
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Where da Crossbell at?
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>>186822921
Never ever
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>>186810220
TECHNOLOGY!
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>>186811310
I want to hug all the KeAs.
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he's still sad about that date with Fran, poor guy
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>>186825273
Don't do it Anton. You have so much to live for?
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>>186825394

it would be hilarious if he ends up being the protagonist of a game later on
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Will we see Cornell Richard, Anelace and Arios in Cold Steel 3?
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>>186826278

Not until series last boss that has 500 forms and each one kicks your ass until some character from ages ago shows up ad infinitum.
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>>186826278
I will be shocked and upset if Rean and Arios don't get to SECOND FORM GALE one another.
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>>186826580
Each form was holding back.
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Where does she hide her hair?
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>>186827654
She wears a wig.
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>>186827693
Or does she?
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the more I play CS, more I realize that Liberl was a fucking paradise
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>>186827956
That could still be a wig, she's showing the difference between her short hair self and long hair or something.
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>>186828235
Liberl is pretty much paradise compared to everywhere else, Crossbell was a corrupt shithole, being squeezed by two major powers, Erobonia is full of nasty nobles who abuse their power to the max, and are not afraid of killing off others for their own well being, Calvard is full of mass immigration and most likely having it's culture overshadowed by them, and opposing governmental parties, and extremist groups around.

Even the people in Liberl are nicer in general, hell, Richard only tried the coup out of love for his country.
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>>186826278
>Cornell
Why to people keep doing this?
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>>186828493
Liberl doesn't have the internet so it's trash.
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>>186828235

That's only because Liberl is a small country with a homogenous population that hasn't yet gotten big enough to have glaring problems with immigration or general management. It only has like 4 medium sized cities.
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>>186828828
Crossbell just got around to testing it first, considering the ZCF is there it would have gotten it soon enough. The one thing they don't really have are cars due to rough terrain, but they have airships moving between each city all the time anyway.
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>>186828839
Crossbell is even smaller compared to Liberl, and it still manages to full of problems though.
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>>186828828
>you will never have a comfy NEET life surfing on the orbalnet in Ruan.
why even live?
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>>186828493
>>186828235
Liberl is also the most idealistic and overly romanticized view of a country in the series. Its the Gaius of countries. Too perfect for this world.
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>>186829601
Gaius's country has the excuse of being mostly a simple untamed region full of nomads though, so Liberl is even more perfect than that for being able to keep it's peacefulness and organization, despite it's size.
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>>186829861
I didnt mean to compare Nord to Liberl, I meant that Gaius is ridiculously mature, polite, honest, hard working, and and well grounded for a series where the rest of the party members all have some sort of inner turmoil and an incessant need to start drama
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>>186830052
Literally too perfect for this world.
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>>186830174
What a shame Osborne is going to take it over right after giving up Crossbell.
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>>186830052
To be fair, I think Elliot is pretty close to being too perfect for the Trails universe, too.

His only real issues are that his mom died and his Dad wanted him to follow in his footsteps, but other than sending him to a military academy doesn't really get in the way of his son's musical ambitions much.
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>>186830736
Erebonia isnt going to lose Crossbell
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>>186830736
Can Osborne outscheme Cassius?
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>>186831482
We just don't know i think Crossbell gaining independence is going to be another move done by Osborne during Sen III, and it's not even going to be the finale.
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>>186831482
Some kind of political deal. Can't imagine anyone kicking Erebonia out by force.
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>>186831482
spaceships
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>about to ask Laura to dance
>she asks Rean herself before he even has a chance
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Good fucking God this Laura/Fie vs Rean (and I guess Machias) is fucking ridiculous. By far the hardest boss fight so far what the fuck. I start out and Rean just Arc Slashes and Autumn Slashes me into oblivion.
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>>186832953
Really? I won that on my first try, during nightmare fresh run. Maybe try changing your quartz setup.
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>>186833057
No, I finally got it, it's just that I had to keep playing until Rean missed his first autumn slash. The fight would literally go

>Rean Autumn Slash
>Machias link shoot
>Machias shoot
>Fie dead
>Rean autumn Slash
>Laura dead

Fucking Rean.
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>>186829071
Crossbell is small, but it has a level of economic activity VERY disproportionate to its size. money begets corruption in a big way
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Truth here: I legit believe Machias has the best voice actor of Class 7 and some of the best voice acting in the entire game. Dude just delivers the lines perfectly.
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>>186832953
Yeah, you must come with the right setup, Rean is unironically stronger than the alleged "best duo", Arc slash can delay you to oblivion.
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>>186831363
In terms of statecraft? Probably. In terms of strategy and tactics? Nah. Erebonia's wartime philosophy seems to be "throw bigger shit at it until it dies" which stops being feasible once you run out of bigger shit. Considering Zemurian warfare tech hasn't reached the fully-automated/remote-controlled stage yet, flexibility and innovation will still carry the day as long as levels of technology between the two sides are relatively equal.
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>>186833790
I don't know about best but he is good I agree.
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>>186832953
I'm not looking forward to fighting him again in CS3.
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>>186834363
>throw bigger shit at it until it dies
Osbourne is one of the most conniving and future-thinking guys in the game.
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>>186834709
I think that anon may be referring to Liberl in that case, where despite being way smaller they still pushed them back, even after they conquered everything aside from Grancel.

Osborne was but a simple soldier at the time i think.
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>>186834709
>that speech he gives to your party in Ao
Holy intimidation tactics. Though Rocksmith was also way more conniving than I thought he would be.
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>>186835187
Brigadier General, so a little more than a soldier.
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>>186834709
This, Osborne won against the noble faction with espionage and the use of double agents, he killed them from the inside. He planned this by corrupting someone from their side.
He also did the same to annex Jurai SEZ, and Crossbell had no defense outside of KeA.
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>>186835276
Wouldn't be surprised if Rufus served under him.
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>>186831482
Where did you get this picture of my wife?
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>>186835837
Rufus is too young to be involved with that war
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>>186835889
He's 27 in Cold Steel.
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Tokyo Xanadu
Tokyo Brandish
Tokyo Gurumin
Tokyo Zwei

I like the sound of this.
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>>186836000
And the 100 Days War was 12 years prior
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>>186836507
I hope they give us jacketless outfits again. Their fixation with long coats is almost as extreme as their middle bangs fetish.
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>Want to continue sooner
>Find out a game called Patapon
>Let it eat away my soul and take a bit to continue

That aside, i like how they're referencing the fact that Olivier has been trying to get attention to himself in a positive light.
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>>186836805
Well clearly that was for >>186836385
For Liberl I just hope someone tells the royal decorator pastels are so over.
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>>186834709
Perhaps, but the issue is that Cassius and Osborne operate within different spheres. Cassius has never held pretensions of being a statesman, and frankly doesn't have the chops for it. He's an unparalled genius at reactive planning; that is, at figuring out how to counter via utter decimation other people's/organizations' machinations. Even an organization as well-organized and secretive as Ouroborous needed him out of the picture because they knew that he would be able to counter them as soon as they showed the first hints of their designs. Osborne is the man who makes the keikaku according to which everything is supposed to go; Cassius is the spanner that can get unceremoniously tossed into the works at a moment's notice. Kinda like Trails' version of Mazer Rackham.
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I want to headpat Tita!
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>>186837064
Where would Guy fit?
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>>186837064
>Kinda like Trails' version of Mazer Rackham
Fuck, you're right.
I still think the power Osborne wields could out maneuver Cassius if need be.
Liberl is free at the moment for the same reason Nord is, Osborne/Erebonia don't need them yet.
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>Fighting Cassius on Nightmare

What the living fuck.
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>>186837410
Osborne is going down in CS3 so no. He's a jobber who got ONE thing right.
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>>186837353
i haven't played crossbell anon, i'm sorry
>>186837410
>liberl is free bc they're not needed
that's fair; all things considered it's a strategically-unimportant country, especially now that the Aureole is firmly within Ouroborous' posession.
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>>186837487
>Osborne is going down in CS3
I dont doubt it. Olivert is going to go down with him though ;_;
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>>186837353
Guy uncovers the conspiracy it can be executed, but gets killed before he can expose it.
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I had that impression from past interactions with Elise and her acting like a friend of hers was trouble, but she just goes all out on the teasing.
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>>186837765
Her and Olivier are much more alike than she'd care to admit
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Oh shit, been so long since i saw him in the bard outfit.
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>>186837353
He couldn't outsmart the one that killed him, he was just a competent detective, Osborne and Cassius planning skills are almost supernatural.
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>>186837765
It's really sweet how much his siblings like him.
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>>186837765
>>186837828
>Olivert deliberately influences his imouto to be more like him so the series would have a gender swapped version of him to waifu
He truly is the best boy
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>>186837353

Guy's just a really good dectective but doesn't have the military chops or connections to do anything.

He'd catch on, but would be helpless to do anything.

However he'd be a great asset to the anti Osborne group in general, alone Osborne would probably just have him killed.
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>>186838053
sasuga olivert-sama
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>>186837610
>Emperor plan is jobbing him to Olivert.
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>>186831482

They aren't going to beat them outright. Osborne will probably either fall out of favor and/or die, and all his political scheming will be undone, including the territories he annexed.

Which won't be a super happy thing either, since Erebonia will be disgraced and weakened in the aftermath.
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It never stops being weird when he starts acting like you'd expect Royalty to be acting like.
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>>186837610
No, Anon, our olivier will become the new emperor. And he will appoint the lean mean rean "cold steel" osborne schwarzer machine to the position of chancellor.
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>>186838038

I'd say he was a little beyond just competent, he was the only one who realized something was up long before anything actually went down (Lloyd on the other hand, plays right into the conspiritors plans until almost the end)

His flaw was thinking he could talk Arios out of it and going alone.
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>>186838534

>Ilegitimate rape baby
>Ever being Emperor
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>>186838605

That's how it worked for Driechels.

>>186838534

He'll appoint Rean to a new division of the army that's for peacekeeping and Bracerlike work, and new Class 7 will be part of it.
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>>186838605
Who is Dreichels the lionheart
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>>186838357
When he starts talking seriously is when you know its time to hang on his every word.
He's such a good character, I can't gush enough about him.

He's so good, even Japan with their eternal shit taste recognizes it.
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I'm still a little salty Estelle didn't actually reach rank A after SC for getting all BP. But i guess, most of the quests were menial tasks, aside from solving the crisis, so rank B makes sense i guess.
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Literally playing with fire, Elise is right next to you.
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>>186839070
What is Elise going to do, stare and and gasp "y-y-your highness!"?
Alfin is an alpha princess.
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>>186839070
Will we see the dance in CS3?
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>>186839229
They've already suggested yes.
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I'm glad they're addressing this because it was bugging the fuck out of me. The class was clearly not just a "get along and be happy" experiment between social classes, and foreign countries, and there was more to it than that.
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>>186839339
Too bad the class does absolutely nothing to question that agenda in the long run. They just worry about their personal drama and shit.
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She means Lechter right? So i guess Osborne also wanted the bracer guilds out of the way right? I think i already reached that conclusion thanks to the fact that he was working along with Ouroboros from what you hear in SC, so him not doing anything to stop the attacks makes sense i guess.

Also this is one long cutscene.
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>Alfin
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Oh, so there was more to it than that.
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This dude goes "We're handing out commemorative gifts today", twice in a row. I guess it's nothing important, but it's still probably an error on Xssed's part right?
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>>186839963
I played CS before the Sky games, and I just figured the goody two shoe fighters guild getting run out of town was consistent with the world they were building about rapidly evolving tech over throwing individual heroics, etc. Everything about Erebonia I thought extended to the rest of the continent. I was pretty surprised to go back to the sky games and find out Erebonia is just as odd and unique as the countries around it, so much so that Liberl actively encourages bracers.
Even finding out that there was lore reasons for the guild branches in Erebonia being shut down was crazy to me.

I cant stress enough how much of a wild ride, and how much fun, the last couple hours of CS are without knowing a single thing about the rest of the series. Seemingly innocuous NPCs are suddenly part of some Illuminati nonsense, mechs in a world where air conditioners are a punchline, magic that doesnt relies on actual magic and not magic rocks.

CS was so much fun, its fine for people to jump into. I just wanted to get that out there.
Im also really glad I played FC and SC before CS2 though, and now I feel obligated to play Zero and Ao before CS3.
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>>186838593
He probably could have but then Ian shot him through the back.
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>>186841327
You are pretty much obligated to play Crossbell before Sen III honestly. You're gonna miss out on way too much if you don't.
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Which is better for Laura, Tauros or Brave? I just found Tauros and the idea of it seems cool but Brave gives more strength and the starting strength bonus, though I almost always start the fight out buffing with either Jusis or Rean anyway.
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>>186841594
Force is the best on her when Rean isn't in the party.
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>>186838863
She is probably the fast person to get B rank ever. She is probably A by CS3. I am surprised she isn't after Zero.
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This game makes it to easy to trigger my shippingfag tendencies.
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>>186841552
I got 5 minutes into the translated Zero before getting distracted by a Sen II ng+. Ill play it for sure before 3.
And since ive already spoiled myself on Ao`s timeline shenanigans in some capacity, Randy having a violent backstory of some sort, Rixia being an assassin, and Kea being a god(?) I figure I should just wiki my self as much as possible about it afterwards.

Sen II looks like its more dependant on the Crossbell games then ever before
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>>186841594
>CS1
Use Brave until when you get Vermillion, Murakumo or Orochi. Force is better off on Rean or Millium.

>CS2
Tauros all the way unless you're worried about delay problems in which its Vermillion or Orochi instead.
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>>186841594
You didn't precise CS1 or CS2, it's important because Tauros is useless in CS1.
Laura's MQ are Brave, Orochi, Vermillon, Murakumo and CS2's Tauros.
>I just found Tauros
I'll say then that you're in CS1, drop Tauros, it only work on regular attacks.
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>>186842062
Welcome to the club
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>>186841381
To be honest, Guy probably could've talked Ian out of it as well, if he had the chance. It's literally what Lloyd and the SSS were able to do.
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>>186842094
I mean, if you're going to bother with Sen III, you would need to know moon, and by the time it gets a localization, i figure the Zero patch will be finished up on polishing, with a PC patch available, and the Ao one may or may not be out too, so you'll have time.
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>>186842149
>It only works on regular attacks
That's all you needed to say what the fuck that's shit. Did they change it in CS2?
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>>186842414
Heres hoping, but I wouldnt put money on fan translations.
Its a wonderful cause, but a long and thankless one.
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>>186842476
it works on crafts/s crafts and is broken on anyone with a good S-Craft and high strength (read Rean, Laura, Sara, Millium)
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>>186842476
Yeah in CS2, Tauros affect craft and S-craft. It become top tier.
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Are they going to release Zero's translation on PC and PSP at the same time?
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>>186842476
Probably since they thought "eh, we'll make them work on Crafts and S-Crafts" and you get Tauros very early in the game (right before getting Jusis).
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>>186842595
The Ao one is progressing nicely enough for the size of the script honestly.
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>>186842826
Why is Shirley so sexual?
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>>186842826
According to the guy's working on it, their main focus is the PC version, but the PSP patch is probably being worked on too.
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Still charming i see.
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>>186843308
Truly best girl.
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>>186843120
>Red haired Revy uses a weapon that needs revving
Whew
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>>186843308
Will Machias ever give her the dick?
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How evil.
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Would you design a positive brochure of the Empire for one thousand ameribucks?
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>Fishing rank up.
>Attained the rank of: Black Angler.

Rean Schwarzer was already a formidable fisherman with his 8 baits, one rod style. When he sold his soul to become The Black Angler he became truly unstoppable.
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Living in the empire sounds better than anywhere else judging by the cities. Except for Roer that looks like Zeiss but worse.
I'd kill to live in Legram and Trista > Rolent or Bose.
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>>186844057
Ive already decided that Im going to settle down with Laura in Legram and raise a bunch of new sword autists.
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>>186844057
Grancel beats them all
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>>186842826
>>186843120
Any reason Shirley's weapon has the same name as the final boss in CS2?
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>>186844490
She's getting her own knight.
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>>186842062
It really does. I'm in Heimdall right now but going around the school

>Dorothee/Fidelio
>Hugo/Becky (honestly though Becky's kind of an ass to the poor guy for no reason)
>Friedel/Loggins
>Alan/Bridget
>Lambert/Whitcomb
>Patrick/Eilse

I also like how Kenneth is always outside that house with the couple who hate each other and their daughter comes out and hangs out with him. I like to think watching him fish is a little escapism for her.
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>>186844218
Same here. Calling Victor dad and making other girls jealous only makes it better.
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>>186844578
>Hugo/Becky (honestly though Becky's kind of an ass to the poor guy for no reason)

That's a rivalry, the purest form of love.
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>>186844894
>Rivalry
More like Hugo giving a friendly suggestion and then Becky just gets mad and tells him to fuck off.
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>>186841156
Some less relevant NPCs do only have one line occasionally.
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>>186844790
>calling lady Laura's friends "disgusting cretins"
To the gulags with you
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>>186844578
If you like Kenneth, you're going to love his endgame.
Just keep talking to the NPCs, its all worth it.
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>>186844997
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>>186844894
>rivalry
>the purest form of love

Anon...
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>>186844490
I believe she based the name off of the legend on the robot i guess? It was a carnage robot after all.
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>>186845001
Kenneth, Kleins, and Lamber are honestly top tier bros. Klein especially. Just going to the swimming pool and talking to him makes me think "damn this is a good man. What a hero" every time.

Also, I literally talk to every NPC any time their dialogue updates. It's almost always worth it. Falcom tucks away bits of lore all over the place.
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>>186844959
It's just really strong tsun.
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>>186844578
The daughter also hangs out with the child from the couple that loves each other. Her brother is pretty autistic about studying and not having friends though.
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>>186845256
>Also, I literally talk to every NPC any time their dialogue updates
Good man, dont ever stop.
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>>186844989
No i mean he literally has 2 consecutive lines if you talk to him once with him saying the exact same thing.
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>>186845068
Laura's fangirl trio is how I imagine /u/ to be like.
Also, when you think about it, Annabelle went through quite a journey: from a weak noble girl who loses her wallet during her first time away from home to a hardened badass that survives in the wilderness with no problems.
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>>186845327
Yeah, I thought it was super cute when I caught her outside the lovey dovey couple's house and asking him how to stop her parents from fighting. The dad is such a piece of shit I want to slap him. I'm also really worried for their son. Poor kid seems to have just lost himself in his studies to get away from them shouting at each other.

These games can be too real sometimes.
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>>186845381
These two right here are the purest form of love. I nearly have a heart attack every time I go to visit.
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>>186845439
Laura is the noble and gallant manly tallish girl. Anime laws of the universe demand that she have a thriving contingent of fan girls obsessed with her.
Julia was the same in TitS, and Dubully is the same with Steel Maiden
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>>186845589
Shes's the best Erebonia has to offer
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>>186845685
Ouroboros apparently has a Arianrhod fanclub too, Renne was a part of it.
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>>186845685
I have a seething hate for this trope. I don't know why. Maybe I feel emasculated? Maybe once upon a time I thought it was funny or cute back when I watched my first anime, but then I saw it repeated a thousand times over and am sick of it.

It's even worse when all the fangirls are some raving mad lesbos who shit all over men for some reason. Like how are we supposed to feel about these bitches aside from burning hatred? And they rarely ever get shown up too. It's disappointing because the 'manly' girl they fawn over is usually one of my favorite characters, it's just that they always have this annoying as fuck trope clinging onto them.
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>>186845721
>no one thought to make a Bleublanc Hamburgler and a Campanella Ronald McDonald yet

Twitter めがさめる!!
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>>186845815
>best lovey dovey is unimportant background NPC
Absolute madman.
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>>186845685
Yeah but Duvalie and Julia's fanclub (including Elie, Fran and Noel) aren't misandrists.
Well, technically one of the three falls in love with the guy from the training hall later on anyway.
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Leaks soon
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>>186787910
Most likely at TGS.
BTW when's TGS?
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>>186846714
Predict what they'll contain:
>Ironbloods
>Arcus II
>Bonding events
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>>186846763
TGS is like a week before the game releases. It would be a bit too close.
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>>186846978
Ironbloods I suspect.
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>>186847253
I love the idea of the Ironbloods so much. They're kind of like a mini Ouroboros. Osborne is a man who knows how to do a whole lot with only a little, and the Ironbloods reflect that in a way. Honestly, I'll be sad when Osborne is knocked out of the series for good.
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>>186846763
If Falcom follows the marketing history of their September releases the trailer should be out this week.
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>>186848885
You know, Elise being bitchy would've been better than the bland blob of nothing we got.
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>>186841794

I feel like you need more than just to grind missions to get past B.

To be A ranked you probably need to be a powerful solo operative that's quick thinking and an effective problem solver like Sara and Arios.

Estelle is still really just a mid ranked fighter and is pretty much always attached to the hip with Joshua who does much of the heavy lifting and thinking for her. She participated in several crisis's but she was just one of the rank and file throughout. She's also impulsive and tends to whack most problems.
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>>186748620
you mean you'd be mad if that little shit ever canonically ended up with him*?
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>>186848885
Twin tail Alisa is something else.
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>>186841327

No. Bracers are pretty much welcome everywhere but Erebonia. Even Crossbell depends on them more than their actual police, until the SSS was created.

Only Erebonia shuns then, and that's because neither Osborne nor the nobles don't want a bunch of goody two shoe one man army warriors around threating their power.
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Holy fucking shit. Buffs are so ass in Zero if you use Arts. Honestly, how did that even get pass QC unless, for some reason, they thought that was balanced?
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>>186849348
>trails
>balanced
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>>186848885
>that rean

Holy shit
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>>186831482
>>186849848
Emma is not for lewd
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>>186850270
That's literally the only thing she's good for.
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>Ami Koshimizu voices Claire
Oy yesss.
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>>186850974
yeeeeeeeeeeeees
>>
TWO MASTER QUARTZES
TWOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>186848885
Test girl best girl.
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>As expected, this week's characters are the Ironbloods (Osborne, Claire, Rufus and Lechter). Claire's new VA is Ami Koshimizu.

>ARCUS II supports two Master Quartzes, the second has its stats/perks halved in efficiency. Multiple slots are connected by lines.

Tauros + Vermillion + Domination. RIP balance.
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>>186851194
>>186851217
You can set two MQ looks like fun ass fuck though
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>>186851426
>Juggler/Cypher on Machias
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So, if the MQs stay the same, we can get:
>Tauros + Vermillion for physical damage
>Criminal + Pandora for arts damage + EP regen
>Force + Megalith for S-Crafts every single battle
How else can they break the game?
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>>186851217
>implying balance ever existed in CS when the lean mean delay machine and le fast arts man exist
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>>186850974
>>186851217
It's a shame that her old VA died of cancer, causing so much mourning that an event to raise funds for cancer research in her name was held.
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>>186851753
New, stronger MQ.
>>
I hope you guys realise how much easier it's going to be to level MQs now.
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>>186851217
They're going to spill the beans about Lechter being the fourth anguis right here aren't they?

Sausga.
>>
Im on my first run of Cold Steel, and i got a question.

Is it worth to bond with Towa? or should i focus in bonding with my class members?
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Tita is safe. Erebonian boys can't compete with this.
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Olivert BTFO
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Two master quartz... Fuck that's nutty.

I'm guessing game difficulty will ramp in comparison.
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>All those faggots hoping Falcom would unfuck CS's balance
Haha
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>>186834363
Oh yeah as the US has learned having a bigger army doesn't mean much.

>You will never be Kloe al Sadr planning the insurgency against Erebonia heathens
>>
Why do americans love osborne
>>
>>186852994
I'm guessing the perks will get nerfed
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>>186853103
Falcom always finds a way to make Trails unbalanced. Even when they nerf previously broken strategies they introduce something else broken.
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That slow-motion 'shut up'. My sides are in orbit.
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>>186853191
>tfw you spend billions of mira on your glorious imperial army and still get btfo by some ragtag Liberlian freedom fighters
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>>186853103
>hoping
Speak for yourself.
>>
>Murakumo + Tauros + Wrath on dodge tank Fie
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>>186854010
jesus christ how arousing
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>>186848885
This would've been much better. Alternatively, have Crow join Class VII earlier.
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>>186853550
>they introduce tons of new options that are even more broken.
fixed that for u
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>>186853991
>Wanting an easy, dumbed down, no strategy game
Dumb CSfag.
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>[2ch] Features official artwork of the Ironbloods. Next DPS issue (9/5) comes with a Sen III cover, booklet and game impressions.
>game impressions
Trailer fucking where.
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>>186856785
Never.
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>>186854736
So like every other game in the series?
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>>186854676
Yes thats basically exactly what I said
>they introduce something else broken.
Should imply they are introducing new mechanics or options what's your point?
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>>186854736
>Muh CSfags
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>>186857169
>Every other game in the series let you kill bosses before they got a turn
Shit's broken, stop deflecting.
>>186857331
>Brainlet
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>>186857596
>deflecting
God you're stupid.
>>
Why is Ys so boring?

>Starts in the middle of nowhere with no explanation
>Can only wander around while killing mindless mobs
The hell is this shit
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>>186857772
ask your mom
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>>186857772
Which game?
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>>186857169
To be fair, none of the other games have been as busted as Cold Steel.
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>>186857772
I tried playing Ys 1 but it wasn't very good.
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Apparantly Claire got promoted to Major.
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>Osborne: A branch campus, another vain struggle of the prince. Let them dance together, that’s the best our worthless sons can do.
>Lechter: Kept you waiting, Schwarzer. Time for a favour.
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>>186858196
Sure they are. They just don't offer you as many choices in how you go about it. The cause is that the combat numbers have been overtuned for party and enemies from the start and strongly incentivize or even require exploitative play, and this only became more pronounced in the recent games.
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>>186858439
"Our"?
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>>186858439
>Osborne: A branch campus, another vain struggle of the prince. Let them dance together, that’s the best our worthless sons can do.

Wow. So much for having any positive opinion of Rean.

I guess he lost interest in him the instant he refused to be his robo enforcer.
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>>186858509
The emperor.
And if you didn't play cs2 you got spoiled.
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>>186858509
MPreg.
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>>186858336
Promoted two ranks for dying.
Now you outrank me.
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>>186858439
Where are we getting these? Also, this seems like a poor time to start underestimating his opponents.
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>>186858218
YS1 is the only game I have played so far but considering even the updated versions are a 30 year old at their core I still found them pretty good besides the awful boss fights.
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>>186858509

Guessing he's talking to the Emperor.

Christ did Osborne poison the country. Now he's got 2 members of the royal family in his pocket actively sneering at the good guys.
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>>186858439
>ywn be able to reject Alfin and dance with Olivert instead
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>>186858614

Why?

He's got total control of the country, has the noble alliance in his pocket via Rufus, has the crown prince and the Emperor sucking his dick, and has the most powerful nation on the continent.
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>>186858731
Becoming careless at the height of your power is among the very oldest of blunders, especially when his personal history has multiple assassination attempts, one of which might have been successful.
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>>186858590
Why is the emperor OK with Osborne calling Olivier worthless?
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>>186858951

Probably like Cedric he's turned his opinion against anyone not on his crazy train.
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>>186858439
>worthless
I'd translate 不肖 as "unworthy" or "foolish", personally.
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>>186858951
Because Olivert talked big and then failed. His highschool plan gave Osborne a supersoldier and failed so bad he had to do make a new one, only this time with the dregs instead of the best in the Empire.
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>>186859212
I'm not sure where this failed plan thing came from. He wasn't setting out to pull of a coup or anything.
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>>186858614
I grabbed them from Gu4n's twitter.
>Claire: Rean…I don’t think it’s necessary to overthink your relationship with him now.
>Rufus: The Ironbloods act only to realise the ambitions of Your Excellency
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>they actually took the time to make Millium's outfit not even cover up her whole butt

Falcom knew exactly what they were doing. And I'm completely good with it
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>>186859280
I think I'm missing something too because I'm a brainlet. Osborne winning his civil war has nothing to do with what Class VII accomplished right? They still helped ended the war swiftly.
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B-bread?
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>>186859605
Both factions were trying to end the war quickly and without the nobles splintering the country, so their goals aligned most of the time. The kids were never taught to view Osborne as an actual enemy, so I don't know what they would have failed to do after all the war stopping business they got up to.
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>>186859827
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>>186859874
That's 756 posts old bread!
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New: >>186860410
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>>186761712
Fuck off, self-insertfag
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