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>>186731554

are you just supposed to sidestep spring kicks

is there a tier list that isn't based around death match?

Why do I only get deathmatches until I get demoted but once I have two wins against someone the guy fucking bounces

is there any character that combines ease of play, aggression and safety better than Law? I feel like I can't do anything to this guy is he just good at crushing newer players or is he top tier?

>>186732189

you can just block springkicks they are launch punishable unless you get hit at max range.

the crosschop thing you should sidestep though.

>>186732526
Both

>>186731716
>those hands

>>186733020
so he really is just bruce lee because he can do whatever the fuck he wants

>>186733127
Law actually has poor defense though. He isn't as easy to play as you might think once you get out of greens

>>186733204
i meant execution wise he seems pretty easy. can he not play full aggro in higher ranks?

Why isn't Miguel more popular? I barely see people mention him here

is Kazuya the scrubbiest Mishima?
>doesn't require EWGF
>twin pistons that launch
>df2 any time

>>186733305
He doesn't have a real fighting style and he kinda has a shit design imo

>>186733474

I like his fighting style. It's smug as fuck. I just don't like doing stance cancels after every move, similar to steve.

>>186733595
whole reason i don't play miguel. if it was something like DSS where it was just a few mixups and lag cancelling I wouldn't mind but it's like half his moves are out of savage stance.

>>186733287
Law is fairly hard execution with islides and dss

>>186733372
what do you mean kazuya doesn't require ewgf

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Alright, how far can I get using this only?

who /bryan/ here

>>186734882
I only play honest characters

>>186734469
i didn't know that. i was thinking about picking him up because i'm a big bruce lee fan and i wanted to play an aggressive character. does DSS and islide stuff get as hard as hwo or nina?

>>186734882
Sorry, /steve/ over here

>>186734490
About two ranks if anyone gives you a runback?

>>186734882
no bryan here, only /tauntjetupper/

>>186735051
Hwoa is hard in a different sense where you have to adjust to what your opponent knows about your character and playstyle at later ranks

Nina is hard because she demands extensive knowledge on applying frames, heavy execution with her constant cancels (side step, and hayashida)

If u can't slide instantly law is not being played to full potential. U have to really grind out being about to do it instantly. Dss gets tricky in combos, and knowing when u want to extend a normal string to continue offense, when you want to do mix-ups out of it etc

>>186735325
my favorite guy

>>186735387
who would you recommend for someone who wants to play hyper aggressive?

What the fuck. Leo has a hidden move where you can press 1+2 after b/d 4, 2 while you're ki charged

Did she always have this?

>>186735542
Xiaoyu, Heihachi, Bob

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Can these threads survive past 2017, it's been getting slower and slower

>>186735542
nina

>>186735664
those characters over Hwo/Nina/Law?

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Jesus fuck.
Im watching Rips stream right now and these load times on Xbox are fucking horrifying.
How do you Xbros deal with this shit?

>>186735673
no, either everyone will have moved to the discord or back to /fgg/

Any Xiaoyu players I can ghost?

>>186735960
>watching rips stream
somebody shoot this stoner

>>186736074
I hope the discord stays up
There are a lot of annoying people on fgg

>>186736691
*stays active

>>186733372
No fuck off with this shit.

Difficulty of Mishima from hardest to easiest:
Kazuya > Heihachi > Devil Jin

This is objectively true. Always refer back to this. Kazuya requires the most risks to be successful with and has the worst pokes and damage of the three. Heihachi is solid and can play much safer then kaz, and has a real df1 and pokes. Devil Jin is the safest to play, has great everything only flaw is a bad 15 frame ws punish.

I play Devil Jin btw.

>>186735406
i stroke myself every time i taunt and edge closer and closer with taunt f214 until i finally taunt jet upper for the climax

>>186734882
Nobody actually plays that character in here. You're either mr naps or a Korean if you actually play the character. The rest of the population are snake edge spammers who think they play the character.

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Playing Jin is suffering
Somebody give me a new main to play

>>186738590
Nina

>>186738590
Why aren't you spamming forward 4 or whatever into CDS mix ups and throwing in your unseeble low that launches on CH? Jin is so fucking good in this game. Probably the most underrated character. He deserves to be right outside of S tier.

>>186738452
Love dawn plays him

Can somebody who plays Josie tell me what the combo is off of d34 switch stance is that everyone uses? I'm tired of dropping orbitals with f3. Is Launch 1+2, 4, f234x2 the best option off of all launchers? And lastly and finally, what's a wall option for splat combo besides d344?

What is considered a "Hardknock down" in T7 and how do I do one with Eliza so I can jumpforward 2 into RA?

>>186738879
who

>>186734490
until someone learn it

>>186738794
Because f4~f stance is super unsafe when they know what the fuck it is they'll just have you out of it, and if you've ever played a Mishima you'd know that just wavedashing into people's face is a great way to eat a panic d/f1 or d/f2

>>186739171
Ive watched rounds where Cherryberrymango literally wins by spamming f4-f. Like 80% of his damage comes from that move. Also I wasn't talking about hellsweep. He's got a low poke that launches on CH. DB4 or 3. I forget. The character is really fucking good dude.

Steve has hard combos :(

>>186739112
Hes from here and plays Bryan

>>186739457
sure dude. we all "play" Bryan.

>>186739032
Dunno but as far as I'm aware if you want to do u/f+2 then you have to do 3+4 or f,f+3,4 to do that.

I spend 60% of my time trying to find people to play since everyone leaves after one match
Ranked is a fucking joke

>>186739363
That's because he's cancelling the stance to make it safe f4~f df b. Which is great I'm not going to say it isn't. My biggest issue with Jin is that if he has garbage lows outside of d4, db4, and his string lows he has shit range on everything but f4. You either need to be an arms reach away from them or a legs reach away. But if they're in your face you're boned. Super clunky character to use.

>>186739739
Scratch the 3+4 since you can just do RA directly after 3+4.

>>186739374
He has braindead ones too. Just use flk1d1 to screw

>>186739829
Public match is infinitely worse. I'd rather play against win/losequitting people who actually try rather than play against a 600 win Orange rank that's bored as fuck, a green rank 3 bar hellsweeping Kazuya, a Paul throwing pizzas all game, and "I don't care about rank" tryhards. Fuck public match.

so fuzzy guard is just trying to low parry and then quickly going back to standing guard right

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I want to learn Eliza

>>186739859
If you think jin's clunky try having someone rush you down while you are playing Bryan or Kazuya lmfao. It feels like you are getting beat on by 5 people at once.

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>>186740589

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>>186740731

There are eleven naturally hornless ladies in the roster, leave sleepyhead alone.

>>186740590
This. At least Jin has a hopkick and DF1. Not sure what that dudes complaining about. Jin is super well rounded.

recommend me a the most fastest character

not bob

>>186738240
Kaz's 13 frame WS is enough to make him easier than Hei.

>>186741296

Josie.

Does anyone here have a Fujin V2? I'm hearing really good things about it and was thinking of picking one up alongside an Omni once I have more moneys.
Also, what is a Golden Fanta?

>>186741296
Why u don liek bober

>>186741714
hes too stubby, i always feel like im losing whenever im not in the act of partying

>>186741393
Gee that sure makes up for
>a 16 frame df1
>An unsafe df2
>And no real pokes outside of slow gimmicky ones
>Low damage
Kazuya is the hardest. I don't care what you think. He has to play an ultra honest neutral and now his frames very well.

6 different xiao's in a row somebody end my suffering

>>186743445
Doubt 6 different people even play this dead game

>>186743496
Have you been having trouble finding matches? What system and region are you?

>20 minutes in xbox matchmaking with no matches

LMAOOO DED

>>186743838
>xbox

>>186743838
why would you buy it on xbox lmao
why would you even buy an xbox

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>>186740589
me too

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>>186745470

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>>186740731
>>186740909

>>186743960
xbox should be the tournament standard

>>186745724
doesn't matter ded system lol

Lili players can BEAT it!

>>186745901
Absolutely :)

>>186745901
I beat it to Lili a lot :3

Started Tekken last week. Only character I play is Eliza and just broke out of blue. I can instant dive kick and do a lot of max dmg combos, but as someone new to Tekken, I'm just not really feeling her. So do I stay with sleephead or move on?

>>186746372
Jesse pls

>>186746372
just go through every char in practice mode and find one you like theres no point in playing a char your not really feeling you can always keep her as a secondary or something

>>186746372
Eliza's fine but you might feel more fulfilled if you play a more traditional character.

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>>186746590
>Eliza's fine
Oh yes

>>186747337
I think you're thinking of Josie

>>186747337
>frogposter has garbage taste
didn't see that one coming

>>186747880
Eliza has me coming alright.

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>>186748357

Is it possible to parry from wake up?

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Claudio is for fucking subhumans, God damn he's a bitchmade character

>>186749139
Who do you play?

>>186749260
Lee

Which female character should I play and why?

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>>186749498

>>186749139
I feel that 100% about Lili players. Fucking annoying ass character.

>>186749601
I didn't buy her though

>>186750018
I bought her to cum buckets. It was not a mistake.

>>186750124
I probably will. I regret buying the season pass thinking I'll get her and the other dlc characters.

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>>186749139
>iWR2 you for 40 damage

JOSE

Chachatte yaro ka

Where all the posters @

Should i go easy on beginners when i play against them? I try to use the same move over to try and teach them to punish but i feel they may find it annoying or condescending. I don't wanna scare em off.

>>186753187
play a character you're not too familiar with. or are currently trying to pick up.

>>186731205
What are some tips to learning Jin?

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>>186731205
tfw huge lose streak and get demoted twice
i dont think ive been this angry in a long time
fuck every xiayou and dragunov player in the world

even though i can only be angry at myself

>>186753187
as a beginner i get a lot more pissed when someone good just starts spamming at me

you could just use that thing more often but not spam. or just narrow your whole game down to a few different things for them to work on

>>186753187
I try to play more poke heavy and go easy on the combos and launchers.

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>>186731554

>>186755205
>that hwoarang

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>>186755534
Is it good or bad?

>>186755601
I don't like it, trying to mimic bruce lee colors

>>186755601
I'm not him but I think it's cool, I really like the colors

>>186753767
It happens bro. You'll grow from it.

>>186753187
As a new player i appreciate I personally never get annoyed when people do this, if anything im thankful because it makes learning easier for me people who get annoyed about stuff like that probly dont care about learning in the first place
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYD6OICOWaA

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>>186755704
>>186755746
I see. I saw the pants and thought of Bruce Lee, but I do like the yellow+black combination anyway and wanted to stray away from the colours I usually use.

>>186755934
Well, use whatever you enjoy using.

Why most damaging gigas combos are like this"
launcher -> air throw

>>186758994
same reason for king's combos

>>186734490
Warrior is as far as you're getting with that before people start ducking and launching/low parrying

>>186758994

You're not doing the right combos.

Remember if a combo ends in a guaranteed df1+2, 1+2 the last hit is 16 points and added to whatever the combo damage shows on the screen.

I don't think any of Gigas' max damage combos end in air throws.

Now, for ease of use, yes Launcher ~air throw is super easy and will net you 85%-90% of max damage, but you don't get the wall carry or wall game added on.

Kongojack giving Aris that work. He should go back to playing Josie and King. His Dragunov is garbage comparatively.

How do I get better Warrior onwards? My ultimate goal is to make it to Orange.

>>186760840
why did he drop josie, anyway?

it's weird how you can bind two-button and four-button strikes but not 3-button ones, king seems like he'd be a pain in the anus on a controller

>>186764053
Weird how they had 3 button binds in tag 2 but not t7

>>186761478
I think he thinks she isnt capable or versatile enough. He did take a lomg break from playing her and when he came back he kept getting beat up because he couldn't remember her stuff, so I feel he kinda gave up on her to focus on top tier meme characters

I want to _____ Master Raven!

>>186764053
>>186764114
On Pc you can make macros for those easily

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>>186764701
be a slave to

>>186764053
i play king on pad and never miss inputs, i can rdc with 100% consistency. if you know what button buffering is then 2 button binds work just fine

Sorry for a stupid question but can you low parry every low in the game or is there a restriction to what you can or can't low parry

>>186766050
Afaik every low is parryable, yes
Someone pleasr correct me if I'm wrong since I'm interested in this q

>>186766235
I think you can't parry Feng's qcf1.

>>186766050
I think it's the same rules as normal parries, no headbutts, elbows or knees. So something like Feng's qcf+1 is unparryable.

>>186764053
I have all 2 button combinations bound to shoulder buttons (except for square+x and circle+triangle) and if I have to do 3 buttons I do 1 shoulder button + 1 face buton

>>186766050
I'm pretty sure you can't parry some strings. I think you can't parry the second hit of kazumi's db+2,3,4 if the first hit hits you.

>>186767272
>>186767456
On a related question I've seen people low parry my crouch punches when I played Akuma. Is that an Akuma thing or can everyone's crouch punches be low parried?

>>186767594
Yes special mids can be low parried. I just checked on the Kazumi string and I was right. You can't parry the second hit if the first one hits you.

>>186767594
Mids that are green in practice mode can be low parried I don't know every chars crouch punch but I know as lili my crouch punches can be low partried

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*CH ff4s you into a 90 damage combo*

heh, nothing personnel kid.

meme fist

When should i be using reversal? Feels like I never get the timing right.

>>186764053

>king seems like he'd be a pain in the anus on a controller

Why? If you're talking about chain throws, they're completely ancillary to the character and easy enough to do with the proper commands anyway.

>>186760932
consistently low parry
grab at really fucking weird times
oki A LOT

>>186768953
This cosplay is disgusting and entirely misses the point of LC

>>186771207
I was thinking the same. She has pleb-tier headphones too, Chloe wouldn't stand for that shit

>>186770862
>grab at really fucking weird times
This shit so much. I felt so powerless to blocks but then I realized my character has like half a million grab options. Now I feel like god.

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>>186731554

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>>186764053

You know you can do all of kings chain throws with a 1+2+3+4 binding. I think rdc is the only one that requires actually doing 1+3, 3+4, 2+4.

>>186773917
nice pic thanks

>>186773917
New to tekken but do you seriously have to memorize all these break patterns? I keep getting destroyed by Kings online

how do you punish lili's qcf3 as king? it's -21 on block but it has hella pushback

>>186774925

>New to tekken but do you seriously have to memorize all these break patterns?

Not really.

Rules for breaking King grabs;

a) If he grabs you with a two handed grab up close, break 1. It's a GS 98% of the time unless he can iSW (and he won't be able to).

b) If he runs at you and goes for a two handed grab, break 1+2. It's a shining wizard unless he knows how to buffer a moving GS (and he won't be able to).

c) If he goes for a crouch dash chain grab, break 1 first because he's probably RDCing and, if you fail that, break 1+2 because it breaks both Chicken Wing and Indian Death Lock.

You can option select the JGS chain throws to cover almost all options but you have to basically be in a coma to be hit by one of those so whatever.

>>186773917
>All those 4 button inputs

Is it fun to mash king throws? Pressing four buttons a majority of the time doesn't seem all that exciting.

>>186774925
Almost all his good and reliable ones are 1 breaks, just learn which are 2 breaks. The 1+2 breaks are suboptimal and few in number so you won't see many who use them.

Literally against King it's like 70% 1 breaks and 30% 2 breaks.

>>186775167

I can't remember which move Lili's qcf+3 is but, generally speaking, f+2, functions as King's long-range punish against moves with big pushback like deathfist.

>>186775279

>Is it fun to mash king throws?

You can only mash out JGS throws reliably and those are basically impossible to land.

In general, chain throws are just for trolling people. They're generally pretty shit.

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>>186731554

>>186775279

You don't have to mash em, it just makes them easier to memorize. Instead of trying to remember Dragon Sleeper Finish (2, 1, 3, 1+2+4, 1+2+4), you can just press 1+2+3+4 five times and get the same result.

>>186775167
f2, alley kick, or dash up jab, but you have to be really tight on the jabs. there's a specific range you can punish with b1,2 but like i side it's specific and unless youre an autist or a robot you're going to end up whiffing it.

alley is 14 damage compared to f2 12 damage but alley kick is -9 on hit and f2 is +2 on hit if you want either of the consistent punishes, or you can go to the lab and practice punishing it with the jabs for 22 damage and +6 on hit

*Russian Wheezing*

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>>186731554

Started playing Alisa last night and was able to make it to Expert which is my highest rank with any character so far. I was pretty much sticking to defensive play and only using pokes and it worked well. Will this kind of playstyle work in the higher ranks or should I get ready to go back to 3rd dan

>>186777182
Playing conservatively works up to grand master and some greens but you're going to start finding people who won't take bait, mix-up, use unblockables, punish your pokes, and/or use grabs. Use this time to really learn how to balance aggression and conservative play and also keep practicing movement.

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>>186764859
thanks harada

>>186777540
gib link

>>186777540
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOWYESImb9M

>>186777596
not out yet, guy said it should be ready within the next few days

if you're NA and you fight someone named Whoreawng, he will rage quit you.

>>186777365

>Playing conservatively works up to grand master and some greens

Hardly. Blocking and punishing is the best strategy until like orange.

>>186777953
So what happens at orange ranks

How do you hit confirm counterhits for moves that don't zoom in?

For example feng's d/b+2, leads to full combo if the first hit counterhits and you can cancel the second hit with back.

But normal hit and counterhit look exactly the same. The only time I can tell it's a ch is if I see a startup animation get stuffed.

>>186778580

People stop using blatantly unsafe shit constantly and they stop mashing buttons as hard as they can.

>>186779538
What happens at green ranks?

>>186779905

The opposite.

>>186779343
A lot of counterhits spark on hit due to passing the damage threshold for it, as opposed to the normal puff effect. An old example used to be Wang's d+2,1+2 which was NCc, you could confirm a delayed 1+2 input by visually confirming a hitspark on counter.

I don't know specifically about Feng's d/b+2 but I'm pretty sure you can't confirm it in the traditional sense with delayed inputs. So really your only bet is to confirm off of your opponent's animations or closing your eyes and hoping for the best.

>>186779343

Isn't db2,2 a natural combo anyway? You can clearly see if the enemy is in air so you can hit him with f1+2.

is there an actual recent tier list

>>186784496
No. Play whoeba

If you aren't playing Steve you might as well just quit playing.

>>186785062
Wow thanks, I think I'm done with the game now. It's been fun tekgen!

this game is fun but the online is fucking terrible, i can't imagine how bad this shit mut be on ps4. worst online experience since launch sfv, not even kidding

>>186785062
You just saved me tens of hours of wasted effort. Thanks for the advice, anon

>>186785887
Whats your problem? Works fine for me

rrrrunnnninggg twoooooo

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>>186787104

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Who else finds it hard to go right back in after you finish a set that really went in your favor? I just got losequit on by a guy 3 or 4 ranks above me, and I'm hesitant to jump back in because of how great it feels. I'll never get better if I keep taking an extended break every time something goes my way, but I just know that if I queue up again, I'll get triple-perfected by a 2nd Dan and I'll go back to being a bitter fuck.
Does this ever go away? I'm pretty new to fighting games if that wasn't already clear.

>>186787387
>? I just got losequit on by a guy 3 or 4 ranks above me, and I'm hesitant to jump back in because of how great it feels.
It feels great to lose

>>186787548
Whoops. He lost and then quit, is what I was trying to say.

>>186787387
If you made recordings, go back and watch them and make some physical or mental notes on what you did right. Look at what you goofed on as well so that you don't fall into any traps. Keep drilling that shit.

>>186777540
t-thanks harada

miguel is such a stupid fucking character

Boy i sure do love playing against yellow ranks on secondary characters as a blue beginner. Why is it possible for yellow ranked players to play against blues on their green characters. It's great playing against Josies who spam plus strings that I don't know anything about because I'm a literal beginner. What's even better is not being able to watch a replay to figure out these strings so I know what they did so it doesn't happen again. What a garbage game

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>>186788132
meanwhile yellows play orange and reds on their alt characters
there's always a bigger fish

>>186788310
by that point at least they've had a chance to learn the game. I'm trying to practice my character and learn the game, not get abused by people who have been playing tekken for years.

>>186788465
You aren't trying to learn the game. You'd be in practice mode if that was the case. Not getting pummeled by Josie then giving up.
Tldr stop crying

>>186788576
you think sitting in practice mode all day is how you learn a fighting game? moron

>>186788668
You think you learn fighting games by crying on 4chan? Piss off

>>186788668
You don't learn how to beat Josie by bashing your head against a wall in ranked you dummy. You take that shit to practice mode to figure her out and then take it to a player match or a lobby.

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>>186788668

>>186788465
I'm new to tekken and yellow senpai

>>186788834
yeah no shit, i've played for 60 hours and 90% of that time has been in practice mode. but you don't get better at a game by sitting in practice mode all day, at some point you have to play a match and try shit out and see what works and what doesn't against actual humans. if you don't think getting stomped by people way better than you so badly that you don't even get a chance to learn anything from it isn't frustrating you're a retard. and now i have to sit in practice for another 2 hours trying to figure out what the fuck she was even doing, and that's hoping i even remember what the moves even looked like.

>>186788941
i have a job

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>Start picking Leo in blue
>Trying to spam the f14 combo all the time because it destroys just fucking everyone but still throw in some other moves as well
>Get matched against some dragunov
>"I wonder how long it will take him to learn how to block f14"
>Literally only combo I use for the entire match and he never crouches, I can only see start of his attack animation every time I finish the combo before using it again
I cant even comprehend what must be going through these people´s heads

>>186780243

You don't hit confirm the d/b+2 by pressing the second 2. You do d/b+2,2 every time but you press back if the first 2 isn't a counterhit to cancel it.

But d/b+2 has the same hit spark for a hit and a counterhit so no idea how to tell other than after a very slow startup I know I counterhit them.

>>186782116

No d/b+2,2 isn't a natural combo. It is a natural counterhit combo though. -16 if second hit is blocked.

>>186789717
and this is why tekken is for autists only

learning to defend against the hundreds of different strings in this game is not fun for anyone else

>>186789717
I understand that you're upset to losing to a better player, but that mentality is not going to get you anywhere. Read the second part of my post as well, I'm not saying you need to spend all of your life in the lab, unless you're into making combo movies there's no point. However, learning how to beat a character doesn't require you to learn an entire movelist, just focus on the obvious shit that low level Josie players spam and go from there. Again, there's no point in playing ranked if you're afraid of smurfs, just stick to player matches

Unfortunately, you're at the level where Josie is still kicking your ass. You'll get no sympathy from the players here because they've already progressed beyond that stage by doing exactly what you need to do - practicing.

>>186789876
That's fair enough, does d/b+2,2 beat highs? That's the only way I can imagine you can actually fish for the counter, by setting up a situation where the opponent is compelled to respond with a high. Otherwise it's as you say, you need to watch their animations and respond accordingly.

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>>186789717

>>186790642
>they've already progressed beyond that stage
lol

>>186789974
>t. never played a fighting game before

>>186791112
>t. only played kusoge before

I'm learning lars

Should I stop now?

it's normal for me to be losing a shitload right as a new player? i have a 38% win rate and i learn from every loss but man learning is going slow.

>>186792163
obviously

>>186789717
Lemme tell you this since I play Josie. Her plus on block String(s) that she has are called Switch Stance (SWS) any time you see her shift her weight and bounce around she is in switch stance which means she is +
Out of this stance she has 4 options
SWS 1 will CH if you try to press any buttons at all, however it can be ducked and just blocked. A good Josie will use this to check to see if you like to jab out of pressure.
SWS 2 is a delayed mid that is not that useful for anything other than a mixup option
SWS 3 is the scrub check button, it's what everyone hates about Josie, it's a damaging chip low if not blocked or Parried and gives full combo on counter hit which is almost guaranteed to get follow up wall damage. If you want to get into the Josie's head focus on practicing parrying this or blocking this on reaction every time. If she can no longer rely on this for a basis of her CH or chip game she is super crippled because now she has to play much more honest and work way harder to get her damage. Can be jabbed out of, however if you jab out and interrupt it be wary that they will SWS 1 you if they're smart.
SWS 4 is a deceptively fast mid that sends you flying. It's very useful for countering people who duck to cover SWS1 and 3. It's very good. Can be jabbbed out.

And finally she can enter switch stance with 124, 24, d34(slow), d/f3

In short, parry the SWS3 every time and the Josie will be shitting bricks.

>>186792367
Also I forgot to mention SWS3 can be hopkicked, do with that what you will.

>>186792367
Can you fuzzy guard SWS mixups?

Anyone got a dope floor break combo for Leo?
What do I do once I broke the floor?

>>186792649
just keep ungaing

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>>186792846
>i lose to a character so much
>must be unga

beat it kid

>>186792567
I really wouldn't recommend it, because you can still get clipped if the timing isn't right. You're better off just taking whatever mixup or blocking it outside of SWS3. Don't duck ever because you will get destroyed by her hopkick or SWS4.

Anyone have a good wallcombo for Claudio handy?

>>186793017
dude I play Leo, she's unga

What do I do when I expect a hopkick from Claudio? I tried running up and doing magic 4 but it clipped right through him and he got a full combo. Can Gigas grab him out of the air?

Should I be using Steve's 3 and 4 in place of sidesteps?

just learned Drag in 2 days
holy shit not only is this nigga fun but I'm shooting up the ranks

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>mfw someone tries to tackle me as dragunov

>>186792649
if you already bound them just do f1+2 or ff2...maybe you can get a b1,4 > 3,4

if you didn't already bound them just your most damaging combo after the break

>>186793514
Not really, they're no better than regular sidesteps, possibly worse and they give sub-optimal whiff punishment. SS into weave can be good though so that's worth keeping in mind.

>>186793017
>Leo
>Implying the Leo has to give a shit what you do and has options to cover everything
>Implying Leo isn't flowchart: the character
How to spot a green rank: the post

why is Bryan safe on everything?

Feng's theme

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtkyanZtcbg

>>186793741
good leos dont just mindlessly b1,4 you m8. ya KNK and BOK are bullshit but every character in the game has bullshit

EXCEPT KAZUYA MISHIMA :^)

>>186793980
You're literally just reinforcing the post. Leo is fucking retarded as far as balancing goes, she has literally every tool that she could want, everything is useful, and if they're smart nothing is unsafe. Top this all off with the fact that she's not difficult to play and you get the obnoxious walking 50/50 instawall carry into ridiculous Oki freak show that is Leo. If you were any good at all you'd realize how fucking stupid you are to try to claim that "every character has bullshit" that's on the level of Leo.

steve is such a broken nigger
>extremely fast mids and highs
>steals turns like Karin niggers
>random lows
>side step for retards that are safe

Not whining but how are hellsweeps fair? Or akuma's d3 which leads into full combo with meter/

>>186793814
Because everything Bryan does is just a precursor to him inevitably throwing out a launcher in your face. You're not blocking Bryan so you don't get chipped you're blocking Bryan so you don't get UURRAHH'd.

>>186794317
Learn to play moron. Steve has very few safe moves, i don't understand how a sidestep is safe or unsafe and his lows are awful.

>>186794348
Akuma is annoying, they'll never get a run back from me because I don't feel like playing against the low mid guessing game. Your choice is to eat the low sweep or to eat the combo, and everything in between is fireball and sidewalking simulator until he either gets tired of waiting for you to come to him or you get impatient and run into another demon sweep/demon flip mixup.

Hellsweeps are fine as they're pretty predictable most of the time, the only hellsweep that irritates me is Kazuya because braindead Kazuyas will do it as filler when they don't know how to do something.

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>>186794264
*wall carries u*

>>186794317
It's time to go back, Jive babby.

>>186795183
t. steve nigger

>>186794348
The point of hellsweeps are to make a pure 50/50. They're high risk high reward. The main use for it is to make your opponent duck and respect lows, but if they make the read on your hellsweep you may lose up to 40% life. Hellsweeps except DJs and a wrong guess on Hei's lead to about 33 damage knockdown and good oki but if you yourself make the guess they nearly lose the round.

>>186795264
Steve is based you little bitch boy. Git gud.

>>186794317
Do you make these posts every time you lose to a Steve? Lmao

it's bad enough that King and Leo retards are annoying to deal with but all the new characters are fucking stupid
just like T6, these idiots are annoying

>>186795867
Stop playing then

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>>186794264
Dude, its just a game

omggggggg stop complaining

>every single safe string josie niggers throw out is either safe, has an unreactable low or cancel
>can go into a mid or a low that knocksdown or launches on CH
>delayable
>unga mist steps
>just like Bryan, her strings are safe
was Aris right? is she broken?

Steve is so awkward to play. He doesn't have standard quick launches.
It's hard to open up many players because you can't just do low pokes like Feng or Drag.
His WS punishment seems bad.
He is unsafe on most moves it seems.

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>>186796485
Every character is broken.
No character is broken.
Shut the fuck up.

>angst, demons, chains, leather, belts and tattoos

how do we make devil jin even edgier?

Which Tekken has the best soundtrack?

>>186797204
5/DR

>>186796579
Are you kidding? He has quite a few safe strings that jail on block, 1,2,1; 1,1,2; 2,1; FLK+1,d+1; FLK+1,f+1; & PAB+1,2. Lots of single hit moves that are safe like d/f+1; d/f+2~DCK; b+1~b; u/f+1; qcf+1~b; FLK+2; PAB+2; DCK+1; DCK f+2; & ALB+2
He has good low pokes in the form of d+1, FC d/f+1 & d+2,1~DCK and an exceptional power low in d/b+3,2~ALB d+2.
Remember as well that Steve has a throw game, lots of 1+2 break throws and qcb+2+4 which is a 2 break.
His biggest weaknesses are lackluster punishment in both standing and WS, difficult whiff punishment if you want anything past ff+2, and really poor range.

>>186797054
Push me to the edge, all my friends are dead

"Everything you want out of a hopkick. Primary whiff punisher. Goes under highs, lows and occasionally mids".
Lmao

>>186792078
If you aren't having fun sure

>>186798062
People will defend this.

>>186798062
People will cry about this

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>>186777540

Is this what I think it is?

Why the FUCK does rage art have armor?

>>186798503
Read that post once more, but carefully this time.

>>186798916
>>186798245
>>186798503

All Xioyu players should go outside and stare at the eclipse

Please

>>186798859
slow startup

>>186798859
Because it's still somewhat better than Ultra Combos with i-frames.
I don't like it but it's better.

>>186798859
To catch you mashing

How do I deal with the countless Chloe and Josie shitters?

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Really what's the point of learning the harder archetypes in this game when you can just take the new Lite.version made for scrubs?

>Man, I wanted to play Mishimas but they are too hard
>Guess i'll just play Kazumi instead
>Whoa there, this still seem to hard for me i get nothing off her running 2 unless they are near the wall
>Well at least there is always Lars i don't need skill to take people to the wall with him at least
>Whoa guy! this is really complicated he has ONE whole auto mixup i can't remember all that shit
>Better make the switch to Shaheen
>Now this feels better, but wow this slide command is kinda hard
>I wish there was a character that had Shaheens skill intensive hopkick without the stupid slide command
>*looks thought the roster menu*
>Ahh perfect.
It never fucking stops.

Give me one good reason to not just pick Leo right now and pretend she isn't a better version of Paul.

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>reeee why am i losing it must be the characters

guys pls

>>186800118
>Expectingskill/no whining in a /vg/ thread

Hey buddy you've got the wrong door

>>186800578
where can I go where there is less bitching

>>186800693
anywhere without other people

>>186799524
This whole post is retarded and you should leave.
>Leo is like Paul
This is just the icing on your mongoloid cake.

>>186799524
just play leo if you want to you whiny faggot

>>186799524
Quit being a bitch, you little whiny bitch.

just practice defending one of the 5000 block strings in the game bro

>>186801286
Many people have been playing tekken since number 1. Either learn the game or don't. Just don't come crying here because you're a brainlet.

>>186800846
fuck

>>186800693
Honestly nowhere, but you know 4chan is sort of lowest common denominator territory

>>186801479
>4chan is sort of lowest common denominator territory
Like Feng mains?

>>186800885
>>186800915
>>186801115
That's not the fucking point you mouth breathers.
As a new player why should you learn something that is harder both execution and time wise?
I bet none of you faggots does Kazuya's fully optimized 1000 damage wall combo.
So i ask you again, what is the fucking point?
Why are there so many characters in this game that especially does the same but some characters are just easier to play for some reason?

Please try to respon in a way other than
>Y-y-y-you just mad you lost bro!

>>186801815
because variety is fun.
i play some character because he looks cool.
also there is not "super hard execution", you just have to be used to his timings. everything else is easy
git gud

>>186801407
or what, autist?

>land a counterhit launcher
>flub the juggle because I wasn't expecting it

this happened like three times in the same match, fucking kill me

>>186801927
>there is not "super hard execution"
I see.
So doing Kings RDC command is literally just Bryans sake edge.
Understod.

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>>186801815
Ladies and gentleman, we have an autist.

>>186802283
>So doing Kings RDC command is literally just Bryans sake edge.
No, but it's really easy if you practice it for just 10-20 minutes in practice mode. And I play with a PS controller. Now if you say Bryan's taunt upper launcher then yes, it's hard. But don't say that King's RDC is hard... Because even if you do it, it's also really easy to break the throw...

>>186801815
git gud faggot, it seems like this is the first fighting game you ever played you fucking scrub babby

>why are characters better than others waaaahwahhhhhh

>>186802201
Practice

>>186802283
>Kings RDC command
Who the fuck gets death-cradle'd, lmao

>>186801815
Just play Dragunov like the rest of the community

>>186801612
Why don't you like feng

>>186802201
this happens to me all the time with Jin's ff+4, b+3, b/d+4 and f/d+4...

>>186802992
Get ready for the next Bryan

>>186802201
>>186803058
It seems you guys aren't using moves with purpose. It should be kept in your mind that yes you're using this to land a counterhit.

>>186803404
I mean I use those moves with pokes. But you are right, if they launch on CH I should be expecting it. But it's easy to just say it...

>>186802047
Epic reply. There is no or what. Mad as fuck you are.

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>>186802578
Incredible.
You have literally just just dismissed the pint of my last two posts so you could tell me something everyone knows.
No fucking shit Kings RDC is easy to break.
But you just said there are now super hard execution so that most mean that every characters way of getting damage is just reliable or good as the others.
Which is cearly not the case.

>>186802591
Okay im gonna spell it out really slow for you since you seem to be extra retarded.

Every character in this game is GOOD, okay? you follow?
I don't think there is any doubt about Tekken 7 being one of the better fighting games viability wise.
But here in lise the real question.
Why are you faggos so scared of talking about some character just down right being easier to play then others?

CAN YOU LITERALLY NOT SEE THE POINT?
If everyone is good or useable in some why or another why does some character require more practice to git gud with then others?

I do not understand.
Everyone hates Balrog in SFV because he can literally one touch of death you from 60% pressing 1 button, activating v-trigger and flick the stick in another direction.
And that's even in a game where every character is braindead simple.

Are you unable to see what i mean?

MISHIMA

fucking geeseposters

>>186804257
:DDD

>>186803864
>I do not understand.
Yes. You have made this very clear.

>>186803864
take ur pills omg

>>186804442
>>186804569
I see people here are just as retarded as /fgg/
Don't know what i expected honestly.

>>186803864
I think you want dive kick.
In every fighting game there are differing degrees of difficulty in characters. You might be the dumbest shit to post here yet

>>186804728
What the fuck do you want? Characters are easy and some are hard just because. Pick whoever you want. Ghis isn't some 2deep4u shit.

how do you handle these 2d retards like Akuma and Eliza?

>>186803613
Pokes are moves that range from i10-15 the moves slower than that shouldn't be classified as pokes. Unless it's something like Bryan's Mach kick or jins db4 etc.

But no its not hard to understand why you choose to use that move and the purpose is the counterhit launch. Try to understand WHY you use such a move in such a situation.

>>186805320
Sidestep as much as you can.
And if they spam the low kick that pushes you, lowcrush.

so which game introduced the worst characters in the Tekken series?
T6 or 7? I'm scared for T8 with Heihachi gone they'll probably give Kuma electrics

>>186804776
>Redirecting me to a party game because you refuse to acknowledge that this game has a character efficiency problem
Not even Street Fighter players are so far up a company's ass.

>>186804728
All this general EVER talks about is who is the most overpowered. Truth is everyone has some damage and potential, some are just easier to play (feng,ling,bryan,dragunov). I can kinda understand why people are frustrated tho. Why bother doing some elaborate combos when you can just pick one these four and shit on 90% of people with barely any effort

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>>186805546
>they'll probably give Kuma electrics
Im 100% okay with this.

>>186805630
>problem
How is it a problem. Should all characters be easy as fuck? Or should they all be absurdly difficult? Variations are good. You are dumb as fuck.

>>186731205
my save file just got corrupt, wheres the fucking trainer at, i aint grinding this shit over again

>>186805546
T6 still has the most unga, shitty characters introduced

>>186803864
Do you know what a skill ceiling is? Yes several characters are easier to play than certain harder and more optimal characters, but not all have great all around tools. Take Claudio, best hop kick in the game and star burst combos for big damage. Claudio is a free ticket to yellow via basic simple tactics and minimal required understanding. However once you start playing against people with game knowledge, his one dimensional play style is really hindering to the player. Charger depth and variety of tools means other characters shine brighter and Claudio becomes more limited.

Yes there are easier characters, but the intent of them is to accommodate and acclimate a new player and offer variety. Over time you should be either perfecting and really getting deep into strange play styles or moving onto more complex characters with harder execution.

>>186805519
doesn't seem to work desu
I fucking hate going against these retarded fucking faggots
I wish I can blacklist them permanently

>>186806158
I wish I could blacklist all scrubposters like you

>>186806019
this, but unironically

>>186806394
shut up 2d negro

>>186806563
Another quality post by 17ers

So do most korean pro players play on PC? (Besides arcade machines)

why is it always some retard with a shitty costume that spams the most gimmicky shit every game?

>>186806917
>spams the most gimmicky
unless its lucky chloe, i dont know what other gimmicks are there

>>186807071
literally Yosh and Alisa

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Hey Steve players, I don't know if this is common knowledge but you can convert off of EXTDCK+1 on Forgotten Realm by using iWS+1,2. The first hit counts as grounded so it only adds one hit to the air momentum counter.
Best damage on a normal stage as far as I could find was EXTDCK+1; d/f+1+2 for 46 damage, closely followed by fff+2 for 45 and iWS+1,2 for 44.

>>186806798
ya

>Playing public matches, get matches with new-ish Initiate rank Ling player
>Play regularly, then I notice he can't start a combo without her sidestep snake edge
>Do nothing but hopkick him all game to discourage him from being a scrub and relying on it solely for all his damage
>He keeps doing it
>Switch to Rucky Chloe, do nothing but db44444444444444 all game long
>He loses and quits
I'm trying to teach you a lesson you faggot, better you get the asswhooping now for snake edge rather than later.

>>186807664
SEXY!!!

>>186808149
>teaching a lesson by being a gimmick, disrespectful faggot

>>186808650
Lmao, if you're gonna snake edge, hit a combo and then snake edge again after I get up, you don't deserve any of my respect. I was trying to be nice by hopkicking him in the first game or two but clearly he didn't get the message.

Asuka's tits really are amazing

>>186809571
They're fake lol

>tfw every character you play has a shit hopkick

>>186809571
they're padded

>>186809687
>tfw the character you play has none at all

>>186809571
She has a push-up bra, boke.

>>186805765
To be honest i think this is a problem every game with characters/classes suffer from.
I bet even people that play LoL (the lowest effort game on the planet) has some characters that are below even their standards in terms of playability

>>186809824
still would eat that shit up

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Once you hit the 100 hour mark of the EWGF vortex your neurons have subtly begun to change. By hour 200 you know nothing but EWGF.

Other players simply cannot comprehend the enlightenment that comes with mastering a Mishima. It is a state of pure zen that is akin to speaking with God. Playing another character is dirtying yourself and must be cleansed by performing a ritual in involving hundreds of CH DF2 PEWGF loops.

>>186804257
Can anyone post the "while you partied" image?

>go into quick play to get some practice
>only face people 10 dans above me who barely let me land a hit

>>186809571
>>186809745
>>186809824
Harada is a dumbass whi just says shiy. If you put her in halterdress it is obvious there is no room for padding

My biggest problem is getting too trigger shy easily, I try to start reading everything and I put myself constantly in a disposition, so I'm gonna play with Lili now because I think she allows me to become way more aggressive, I think I will get better overall by playing with her a bit.

>>186809571
she had better tits in t5

what the fuck do you do against Josie?
it's ridiculous that her unseeable lows do so much fucking damage

>>186809876
Copypasta or not hearing that crackle of electricity is like crack being injected into your veins. when I hit a EWHF/EWGF in a combo there's nothing better. Hell even doing one that gets blocked is satisfying.