New 3DS game is called "Deep Strange Journey/Strange Journey Redux" further info and trailers:
http://atlus.com/strangejourney/home.html
http://shin-megamitensei.jp/dsj/
[YouTube] 『真・女神転生 DEEP STRANGE JOURNEY』PV
[YouTube] 『真・女神転生 DEEP STRANGE JOURNEY』PV #02
[YouTube] A Stranger Journey Awaits in Shin Megami Tensei: Strange Journey Redux
SMT HD Project teased at Nintendo Switch Presentation:
[YouTube] 『真・女神転生』最新作 ティザー映像
>Alignment themed concerts
http://personacentral.com/event/shin-megami-tensei-25th-anniversary-festival-law-side-concert/
http://personacentral.com/event/shin-megami-tensei-25th-anniversary-festival-chaos-side-concert/
>Starter guide
http://i.imgur.com/zJcYpuE.png
>Tips and tricks
https://pastebin.com/J6ER3Eve
>Artbook, soundtrack, manga, and other downloads
https://pastebin.com/tJQgQYj1
>OST links
http://pastebin.com/kLbYxjFU
>Misc. translations
http://pastebin.com/pgEWmYfH
>Booru
http://smtg.booru.org/
>Recommended reading
http://pastebin.com/ByiXrDGX
80%?
Shin Megami Tensei: Akuma to no intabyu - fan-made visual novel.
Download links:
>Win (x86):
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B5x4IU6eF98NUmtsZ1J4a2JuWU0/view?usp=sharing
>Android (APK):
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B5x4IU6eF98NNW1MZVRzWXJRdk0/view?usp=sharing
>Linux:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B5x4IU6eF98NeU1HNEhLVDFEZVU/view?usp=sharing
>Mac:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B5x4IU6eF98NNTd5ZFh6SUU4TFE/view?usp=sharing
don't make threads ever again OP
>>186694941
>summer breaks almost over
And I still haven't applied to any colleges. I'm never gonna make it bros.
complete list of the ranking pls?
>>186694941
So... these are the OP making skills of Personafags? Whoa...
>>186696624
I think OP here is one of the regulars in r/megaten
Previous thread:
>>>186579802
>>186697039
How fast can we reach 740 posts?
I've killed Medusa finally, actually pretty easy if you just have Yumiko heal every other turn with medirama and have strong demons who can hit hard with attack, I have to speak to Gar right? But apparently Bien can fly to other dungeon locations, any bonuses from clearing the second corridor first?
>>186696496
You still have time. Apply yourself faggot
Raidou is a cool concept, but a shit game.
>>186697382
Just outsource the combat
>>186697443
>Raidou 3, but developed bythe Yakuza devs
Would you, /smtg/?
Megami Tensei Gaiden: Last Bible Special
>info
It was released for Sega Game Gear on March 24, 1995. The game takes place during biblical times, and follows a hero named Mahtel. The Demon King, Graias, has captured the holy city of Jerusalem. The hero, must gather together a party to challenge four dungeons to save the world.
Special is the only entry in the series to feature 3D dungeon exploration mechanics similar to Wizardry and Etrian Odyssey. Outside of spell and item names, as well as some party mechanics, it has very little in common with other titles in the series.
>gameplay sample
https://youtu.be/jacG9oSph1I
>translation patch
https://www.romhacking.net/translations/3160/
>eng prepatched
https://mega.nz/#!vVIjQboK!gm39fQ_IKdg0I5D-KgoJhQvJXtSL5YjUFn53EX7wu3A
>emulator
http://www.carpeludum.com/kega-fusion/
>>186697382
Nah, it's a great game actually, i had a blast and no real complaints, sure the combat could improve, but it wasn't really that bad and the atmosphere made up for it
>>186696496
Don't waste away your life, sonny. Apply for a CS degree and translate some megaten for us (as a hobby).
>>186697749
No one memed this translation, no one was eagerly awaiting it, it came out before Devil Summoner, P2EPP and if... And the hacker even went out of his way to fix some of the gameplay.
I don't know if this is tragical or comical.
>>186698180
>Needing a degree
You can learn it by yourself, only reason to go for a degree is if you're interested in a job for that industry, and even then, why not just let the demons out than translate games
>>186698351
>You can learn it by yourself, only reason to go for a degree is if you're interested in a job for that industry
I don't understand why someone who went through such an effort wouldn't do that.
>>186697382
1? Maybe. I was more annoyed by the barebones demon selection.
2? Absolubtely amazing. Lots of content, likeable characters. GOAT 3D demon roster and improved battle system.
Get some taste you punk!
>>186698678
>do your regular proffession/ideal job and its training
>learn CS on the side as a hobby
I miss being a NEET so much guys. Those dreamlike days...
>>186694941
>>186695440
>>186697749
Updated the relevant pastebins because these guys deserve to have their work preserved and I know no one else will bother.
Pls update for the new OP:
>Fangames, artbooks, soundtracks, manga, and other downloads
https://pastebin.com/znkHg0kZ
>Misc. translations
https://pastebin.com/XE7fjVPy
>>186694941
>Recommended reading
Read most of the books listed here (Master and Margerita was the best book I've ever read)
Any other recs? I would love more like this
>>186699638
You already posted that in an older thread!And I still agree with you.
>>186700523
And fall.
>>186700735
>>186700523
>>186700821
It still remains as the true SMT kino.
beat the shit out of the little cocksucker
>>186697382
raidou's combat would be good in imagine instead of the generic mmo icon clicking thing.
How do I become Messia, /smtg/?
>>186701017
Where does this originate from? I keep seeing it whenever Akito is referenced.
>>186701343it's an actual line from the OVA
>>186700196
I'm halfway through that book, and it seems like only the intro and the tale of Master and Margarita themselves are the only bits of it which I enjoyed. Here's hoping the second half is good.
I like Demian by Herman Hesse
And I'm still waiting for Bento to announce Avatar Tuner Vol. 2 :(
>>186697382
Crap repetitive combat. Dropped the first and never played the 2nd.
>>186701378I see; I only watched the sub.
>tfw you're at school and those FUCKING GIRLS in your class won't stop bothering you
>YHVH Universe
>Metatron fight to the Archangel theme
>A horde of Metatrons appear!
holy
shit
We ded. Post Megaten protags hanging out with a demon party.
>>186704746
>Wanna save because cute Mothman.
>Dat Raidou face.
NOPE.
>>186704457
>not taking your demons to the beach
>>186704457
>>186704978
Jack Frost has to learn to swim first.
I gotta say, for as much shit as people give the combat system, it is refreshing to finally be playing an entry where magic isn't fucking useless.
>>186705395
can you actually read moonrunes
>>186705260
That is ridiculously cute.
fall'n gods is the best boss theme
>>186705395
I mean, magic is pretty damn useful in Devil Survivor, but yeah, it's not effected by the bullshit range in that game. Bit of a bummer that the EXP system is nonsense though.
>>186705490
Yes
>>186705565
I've only played KMT1, 2, and SMT1, 2, and If so far.
>>186705628
Wow what an interesting history you have so far, i hope you get to play the more modern games
>>186705628
In DeSu, you can basically solo entire maps with a protagionist who has a magic build and the skill Drain.
>>186705520
Nah, too short and repetitive. On that note, I feel like SMT4A's Deicide is a spiritual successor to it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Hx05QcGl3I
Do you guys have the partial (menus, skills, items, etc.) translation patch/rom for Shin Megami Tensei if...? Still can't really play it, but it's better than nothing.
>>186705628
>tfw going from SMT SJ to SMT1&2
>that horrendus magic attack power
wtf, magic is supposed to be weak at the begining and then become destructive.
Is it worth it to finish KMT1?
>>186705503
I love SJ fan art the most.
>>186705902
If you don't enjoy KMT1 at the start, you won't enjoy it at the end. It's just one long string of dungeons with close to zero story.
>>186705936
Me too. The whole cast is so likeable.
>>186706223
Yeah, regardless of how many Demeter type of demons make it in, I'm sure I'll have a blast replaying SJ. Game is amazing, and Jimenez is my favorite alignment rep
>>186706103
I don't mind dungeon crawling but I'm feeling a bit burnt even though I only beat 2/5 bosses. Just want to see if MT2 lives up to the hype of being good but I'm just prefering SJ out of the 4 megaten's i've touched so farthough SMT1 is my favourite SNES/old one.
>>186706319
I honestly can't wait for the remake. At best, it will be good, at worst, it will be hilarious. And I still need to finish the neutral route, so it's a good excuse to try again. Chaos route is most fun route for sure though.
I would still recommend new players play the DS version first because it's so perfect, and I'm not sure about the new female character. She seems really unnecessary. But who knows.
>>186706223
Wow, its refreshing to see someone who doesnt takes a jab at Zelenin.
>>186706319
Im most hyped to see the sprites of the whole Crew and some guys like Captain Jack.
>>186706719
Replaying SJ right now so i can better see the improvements and shortcomings of the port.
>>186704913
>>186706719
>those pics
Cuteman is literally perfect.
Is there a time limit when fighting En no Ozuno in Apoc?
>>186706319
>regardless of how many Demeter type of demons make it in
>not running with a team of little girls
>>186706882
>Wow, its refreshing to see someone who doesnt takes a jab at Zelenin.
Eh, I liked her well enough. She was just scared.
>>186706882
>Im most hyped to see the sprites of the whole Crew and some guys like Captain Jack.
Yes, looking forward to that!
>>186706882
>Im most hyped to see the sprites of the whole Crew and some guys like Captain Jack.
Meta Gore / Awake Jimenez portraits will either be sick or a trainwreck, I can't wait either
>>186706959
Mothmen unite!
>>186707170
Not to mention the trauma of Mitra´s experiments.
Only bad things of new art will be no longer to see artists own interpretations.
>>186697382
I'm sad that Devil Summoner is basically a dead series. It most likely will be just Persona and sometimes mainline from now with no new spin-offs.
>>186701510
I've read Demian too but I don't think it's so good (espescially compared to other stuff Hesse wrote)
i didn't like howyou never actually learn what was up with that Cain stuff.
>>186707359
Example.
>>186707414
Yeah, retty sad. Also no new spinoffs.
>>186705503
>Irving comparing STR with Oni
>Chen embarassed
>Anthony getting slapped
>Zelenin holding onto an angel
I love this picture.
>>186707414
>Atlus releases a new spin-off
>ends up being this
Wew.
At least we got Catherine in-between the Persona milking and the ports of other Megaten and EO stuff. Hopefully that medieval fantasy project doesn't end up being shit.
>>186707359
>Not to mention the trauma of Mitra´s experiments.
That too. I can understand people not liking Zelennin, but her characterisation is pretty good.
After being experimented on, seeing horrible things and knowing the world is about to be swallowed by them, and then being confronted by worst angel who says 'God can make this all go away, here's a free angel bodyguard for you bby', I can't blame her for going Law route.
And as much I like Jimenez, he's kind of a cunt.
>>186707818
>Sweet Anthony
Favorite quest of all time
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3JTQv9Vmgw
>>186707915
>medieval fantasy project
Last Bible IV pls
>>186707924
>worst angel
??????
>>186707924
I can understand her at first but after giving in completely to Mastema she turns into a huge bitch. But it's been a while since I played it
Now that the dust has settled, what did you guys think of persona 5?
>>186708379
fun and enjoyable/10. Would play again
>>186708379
Loved it the first time around. Now it's a decent entry, probably top 5 in the whole Megaten franchise for me. Way too many cutscenes
>>186707924
Not to mention how the game has stuff like the crew warming up to demons, the whole MK gun subplot and Jack Squad as a whole crumbles the little faith she still had in humanity.
As for Jimenez it makes sense. He is a mercenary, he has learned as part of his trade to only trust in himself and that humans are not trustworthy.
I just like the characterization a lot which sadly seems to be ignored by many.
>>186708051
>tfw new Anthony Ex-Missions.
>>186708379
It's good but it's also baffling how they almost completely reused previous game's formula.
>>186708379
Great improvements to the battle controls, cool UI and overall visual style, good music (except in the overworld and Mementos which are what you listen most of the time godamn).
Dungeons are ok and a vast improvement from 3-4, the new additions to the series are cool. But the game is too casual and too story heavy.
I would love to feel passionate about this game, but it left me in a sour note.
>>186708330
>but after giving in completely to Mastema she turns into a huge bitch
Yeah, but that's probably just the effect of Mastema's continuous LIES.
>>186708230
You know who you are.I still love you
>>186708379
I liked it, but I also hate how it will be treated as Atlus' magnum opus for years to come, and every future console game that they work on will have to pander to the P5 crowd
>>186708330
Its just the culmination of everything i have said >>186708657, not to mention it probably involves a little brainwashing given the whole them of the law route.
What are some boss fights you bullshitted?
Since we are already talking about SJI bullshitted Asura by reflecting his Agidyne. Fight took quite long but I only used one demon.
I like Mermaid's design.
>>186709485
Yeah, I guess she is alright if you attribute most faults to Mastema
>>186709692
Thor in p5 can be cheesed by just equipping Rangda. Then IV:A's Izanami I randomly got team wiped except for a single drain elec demon, with no mana at all, but she kept using elec attacks so I auto attacked her to victory
>>186710041
>Yeah, I guess she is alright if you attribute most faults to Mastema
Best scapegoat ever. That's a little too easy though. She made her choice, she has to own that.
I can dump art if anyone wants, though I only have a dedicated SJ and nocturne folder at the moment. I still need to arrange my other SMT folders.
>>186706882
>Wow, its refreshing to see someone who doesnt takes a jab at Zelenin.
>liking a traitor
I respect Betatron/Demiurge more than I do Jimenez and Zelenin
>>186710220
Oh god that fat Pixie.
>>186710386
Sometimes I really wish I could read moonspeak.
>>186710382
SJ has little fanart, you take what you can get.
>>186710493
"We benchwarmers"You can do it
>>186710493
It just says "We're the bench warmers!"
>>186710582
I got a whole folder of SJ fanart from /smtgeneral/ years ago. It's not all great though. Any requests?
>>186710639
>>186710662
Thanks anons!
>>186710041
>>186710218
Mastema does say in Chaos path that he molded Zelenin as his magus. Mastema just took advantage of Zelenin weakness to turn her into a servant of God.
Mastema sees humans as puppets that should be manipulated, he says so before you fight him.
>>186710693
I appreciate anything honestly, just post cool stuff. Mine is from lurking pixiv.
>>186710693
All of it
>>186710935
I only did Neutral, but it's as expected of him
>>186710582
Its not THAT little though. However these >>186710943
>>186710863
>>186710582
>>186710386
Are new to me.
I like fanart of the SJ crew members.
>>186711035
>>186710943
I'm not used to working with mega but I'm trying a temporary free session to upload the whole folder.
There's a lot of MS Paint drawings, a lot of gay, and a lot of Japanese jokes. But it's huge.
>>186711197
Wow that looks like shit.
>>186711368
Do know I would deeply appreciate it, SJ is my favorite SMT.
>>186711552
No problem. I hope it works and mega won't say it's too big.
>>186711505
You can't expect every piece of fanart to be absolutely amazing. Also it is just a parody edit.
>>186708657
>tfw new Anthony Ex-Missions
>mfw new lusts include Alex, Anahita, Demeter andMaria
>>186711552
My nigga, SJ is my favourite game ever
Somebody stream it.
>>186711368
>>186711727
Maybe try dropbox? Maybe I'm dumb but I know a lot of people use that as well.
>>186711505
Translate this, weebs
>>186711735
Well at least we get some good ones.
>>186711893
I want to say it's my all time favorite game but I'm such a indecisive fag that my answer changes constantly. Still, if someone was to ask my favorite game strange journey might very well be my answer, I just fucking love it. I wouldn't trade my collector's edition for anything. I'm really hoping with redux the US gets some kind of special edition as well. I would even buy a strange journey themed 3ds.
>>186712106
>tfw no lesbian zelenin on angel action
>>186711923
Oh yeah, I think I have one of those. Let me try that as well, just in case.
>one hour left to upload
fuck me
>>186712106
I like that pic way too much. May the rerelease bring us more Mastema lewds.
>>186701857
>watching the shit sub, with serious Japanese voice actors and normal lines
>not watching the GLORIOUS Manga Entertainment dub filled with Steve Blum and classics such as "I LET THE DEMONS OUT", "SUCCKKKIIIYYYYYY" and "BEAT THE SHIT OUT OF THE LITTLE COCKSUCKER"
It's like you don't even like SMT
>>186705902
Magic is for utility, healing, and status ailments. Everybody knows hitting shit with a flaming sword is way better than casting nuke on it.
Why was Gore the best neutralfag?
>>186713094
>professional
>has vision
>willing to sacrifice all for the greater good
>not a monkey
>>186712653
>>186712797
Mastema has had a hard life.
>>186698330
Tom is a good guy
>>186694941
Starter guide update WHEN?
>>186698330
We don't deserve him
>>186713575
That's an interesting way to draw feet.
>>186713094
Lewd femdemon as neutralrep when?
>>186698330
It also is a handheld game and had much less text then any of those other games.
Still, Tom is a cool guy and it's nice that he did this. I hope to see more work from him in the future since he seems to be pretty cool.
>>186713776
Whenever the western fanbase reaches more than 10 people here and 20 on reddit
>>186714253
I'm not sure whether to laugh or cry.
>>186714468
A larger fanbase means atlas has to pander to a larger audience. I'm fine with the then thousand P3/4/5 spinoffs as long as it means the occasional mainline game. The only concern is that from IV onward atlus definitely seems to be trying to aim for a bigger audience. Lets be honest, the only reason Alex is the way she is is to try to attract waifufags since strange journey probably wasn't "anime" enough before.
>>186708379
Enjoyed it a lot and loved the mainline references. Though I wish I could've played through the dungeons with no interruptions instead of all that "lol we can't proceed we have to leave for today although we barely did anything here have some boring ass cutscene okay we can continue again hehe".
>>186715112
Will Heeho-kun ever appear again?
>>186714982
At the same time every japanese media is pandering more to otakus, it's not just Atlus. Doesn't make it any better, but I've yet to be disappointed in anything they make
>>186715218
I agree, though it is noticeable. Like let's be honest for a second, you think a game like nocturne, DDS1 or DDS2, or SJ would have a beach scene? No, they wouldn't. I'm trying to fully shit on IV:A, I still think it's a great game and that is dlc that is not needed to be seen to continue in the game, but still the change in in audience is becoming more and more apparent. While for now I don't think it's anything too bad I worry about if in the long run atlus caves in and just says fuck it eventually.
>>186712076
>doomguy: So who're you taking along in your party, Jimenez?
>Jimenez: All right, if you insist, let me tell ya:
>Bugaboo, and a Lilim who managed to seduce (??) me
>And then there's Doppelganger (a hot guy who looks just like me)
>doomguy: why
>>186715632
>DDS2 would have a beach scene?
hahahahahahahha
>>186715632
DDS technically had a beach scene though.
Obscure Strange Journey Fanart MEGA
>https://mega.nz/#F!FyZHgDAb!1lPUcqu36zPePXKPeHbshA
I registered from a free account so it should stay up at least. Enjoy anons, I'm off to bed!
>>186715632
I wouldnt mind a bath scene with the Lady of the Fountaine.
>>186715780
Well but it was inSera´s head aniways and was more about to stablish her love for the party
>>186715874
Based.
>>186698330
It's amazing is what it is. Last Bible games are fuckin' great, and I can't wait to play this, and the Last Bible III translation.
>>186715751
Do you mean the volley ball scene? That is only a small moment and you barely see the characters. Still, I guess you could argue against my point with that. I meant more of the fact that in the IV:A dlc the whole appeal was seeing the girls in the bikinis, and toki in a one piece I guess.
>>186715780
Yeah I remembered after posting that and feel dumb now.
>>186715874
It's over 1000 files by the way, you might have to look a while for the good stuff.
Thanks to the autistic anon that spent his time collecting this of Japanese websites years ago.
>>186715874
>>186716239
Anon, you are my eternal nigga. Thanks a ton.
>>186705936
very top shelf = Nue / Decarabia / Mothman
2nd shelf = Mamedanuki /Black Frost / Mara
3rd shelf = Hare of Inaba / Poltergeist / Tao Tie / Preta
4th shelf = Kaso / Nozuchi / Huoniao / Sudama
bottom shelf = Orthrus / Zhu Tun She / Pyro Jack / Inugami
Back two shelves = Titania wings / Mot coffin
left center shelves = Arthur / Ubergestalt Gore
far left shelves = Awake Jimenez / Space Marine / Judge Zelenin
right at the bottom = Schwarzwelt Ship / Mastema
Why would they have to create a new girl for waifufag pandering when the original game already had top tier waifu material?
>>186716464
Zelenin was a bitch. No one likes her.
>>186716408
Atlus employees, if you're lurking - I would gladly buy all those plushies.
>>186716603
Some months back they mentioned some plushies they were selling at a con going on sale online
>>186716464
Don't even bother /smtg/ is such a dead and irrelevant general it stole le Yukari is a bitch xD meme from /pg/
>>186716549
Then Alex wouldn't be a better option either since she wants to kill the MC and stuff.
>>186716464
Alex will probably be tsundere who will be an ass at the start and turn out to be a hammy love option. Zelenin could potentially be an enemy depend on your side so her as a waifu option is out.
>>186716603
Do you know what I would give for some quality figures of some of the humans and demons? I would fucking kill a man to get figmas of some of the protagonists from mainline SMT. Fortunately they have a pixie and angel figma planned and listed them as from "Shin Megami Tensei" and not "Persona" like the Persona figmas so I'm praying they eventually do figures of humans outside of Persona.
>>186716957
Oh, don't get me wrong, I already hate Alex too.
She'll be dead as soon as the game lets me kill her.
>>186716408
I thought that the middle of top shelf was Chaiwan?
>>186717070
What if they do some bullshit and make her the heroine who joins you no matter what?
>>186717275
>>186717070
>>186716957
i just want lewds
>>186716909
Yeah. The same people did the same to Yuzu.
>>186717336
A SMT drawfag on /v/ made a pretty good pic, I've done the deed already to it twice. Another guy made a pic of her but only posted the censored version to be a dick. Check the /v/ drawthread booru and you should find it.
>>186708330
She's not really that big of a bitch. I don't know where people get this idea from. She kills some demons who refuse to let you past when your world is at stake without a fight. They knew what was going to happen if they refused.
What do you guys think of Jack Frost's original design?
>>186717696
What about the whole "subjugate the whole ship to God" part
>>186717810
It's dumb. I like the current one better.
>>186717810
Cute af. I wish they occassionally put different hats on him but his look is sadly too iconic now.
>>186717810
It's cute the a bit too cutesy for SMT. I like how current Jack Frost's design has both a cute and obnoxious quality to it. Maybe it the goofy hat on the new one.
>>186717275
I'll be upset about it, and very vocally cry about it here, but I'll still play the game.
>>186717915
It was to stop a bloodshed. And everyone in the red sprite agreed it was the best outcome.
>>186717810
Kinda generic. He wouldn't look out of place in The Snowman.
>>186717915
As opposed to murder them like the violent spic with poor anger management wanted?
>>186718681
>>186718325
I enjoyed murdering the whole ship thank you very much
>>186718815
I did too.
>>186718815
>>186718880
>These are the kind of people who call Zelenin a bitch
Thanks for the chuckle chaos friends
>>186717810
I like it. I wish it would return as an alt version of Jack Frost, the way that Devil Summoner and Soul Hackers had possible alt color versions of some demons.
so what came out of the saturday thing?
do we know anything about SMTV yet?
>>186719705
Anytime
>>186719942
no they just played a 3 hour playlist with some ads intertwined
https://vocaroo.com/i/s0sOU44I7YJBit's 1 AM and i'm bored,so i did this
>>186719942
The stream? They just announced the results of the music poll they were holding and revealed some new tracks and a new demon/character in DSJ. Nothing about V.
Why is SJ law bad again? Every single crewman improved after listening to Zelenin song desu
>>186719705
She was a bitch, and had it coming.
>>186708379
Great game. Horrible translation.
>>186721225
Ghideon, intead of shitposting here, how about you finish your own translation instead of criticizing ones that actually release?
Anyone got anything SMT in the mail coming?
Have this coming sometime this week. Pretty excited as I got it for a pretty decent price and haven't played strange journey yet.
>>186721920
Not just yet, but I'm browsing for a CIB copy of Last Bible 2, which I'll probably order tonight.
>>186722125
Nice, do you actually know moon and plan to play it or just have it as a collector's item? I spent $75 on a complete in box copy of mother 3 and beat it despite not knowing a word of Japanese.
what if it's not SMTV
>>186722567
Just a collectors item. I've already played through the translated version, though. Very fun game.
>>186721920
Get ready for disappointment.
>>186722639
They gave this teaser image awhile back, looks more like a mainlin game then anything else currently. Also the trailer put a pretty big focus on Odin who had a large role in IV:A. Still, Nintendo has the trailer listed as "Shin Megami Tensei: Brand New Title" so it's not impossible.
>>186698330
It's a testament to human perseverance and stubborness going straight into the face of popularity.
A lone guy didn't give a fuck about what people wanted, and did its own thing on his own accord.
A true neutral hero.
>>186724075
Sounds more like a chaos hero to me.
>>186707001
Yes. 10 turns just like the rest of the fiends
>>186697382
I liked it better when it was called Teito Monogatari.
>>186697741
Raidou Ishin?? hell yea!!
I just want more shit like the Divine Powers desu YVVH is stale shit at this point.
>>186716464
>no zelenin snuff doujin of her time in Bootes
>no gangrape by Elve crew who got mutated by the experiments
>so lesbian scene with Zoe
>not having her fear of her fellow crewmen just thinking of her as a hot woman first, scientist second come true with some moral corruption
>not being forced to be a mother goddess
>Nothing with Maya's illusions mindbreaking her
>No taking Gore's BBC
>No taking Mastemas BAC
>no post law ending scene of her and space marine havingintercourse in the missionary position for the sole purpose of procreation
Why even live?
>>186724075
Well now I'm interested, how do the Last Bible games play? Any unique features or is it just standard megaten on a handheld?
>>186716464
Is that actually meant to be a picture of zelenin?
>>186717915
Jack's squad was a bunch of assholes. What options do you have other than kill them or pacify them?
>>186725097
It somewhat matches her DSJ look, so might as well
>>186720431
Because FUK U MOM.
>>186724952
>how do the Last Bible games play?
Pretty standard for RPGs of the time, gameplay wise, it isn't anything special.
Fusion exists, and so does negotiation. You also get multiple human companions, as well as your demons. Last Bible I has a story, but is pretty sparse, and hard to follow. II fixes that up a bit, and is all around a better game.
Since Last Bible I had an English release, I also recommend using this manual as it explains spells, and has an overworld map that really does help. They're also pretty short, but grindy. Don't be scared to use speed up and autobattling to get grinding out of the way fast.
http://www.thegameisafootarcade.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/Revelations-The-Demon-Slayer-Game-Manual.pdf
All in all, they're fun games. Hope you enjoy them!
>>186725465
Forgot to mention, though it's not a big deal, it does have a versus mode. I've never got to play against anyone, but I wonder if they've ever considered bringing it into mainline, or spinoffs ever again.
>>186725465
gooby, pls.
Has there ever been a better group of men in vidya?Nope.
>>186727481
The fuck is up with the confederate flag in the back? Looks like like some bar they're at but still weird.
>>186727840
I'm assuming that was taken in Japan, and they probably just have it up because they think it looks cool.
>>186727940
Yeah I guess so. Reminds me almost of all those engrish shirts.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vUOaNhEy6M
For anyone who hasn't seen this masterpiece.
KOWASHITAI
>>186728337
I unironically enjoy this OVA.
>>186728123
Pretty sure everything written in that shirt stamp are dank memes it's not real engrish at all
>>186728785
It's great but the English dub has a few inconsistencies that I don't like.
Hey, /smtg/
I'm doing a solo run of Nocturne, but I'm up against a wall. I'm about to fight Metatron and I'm seriously hurting for beads. I've been grinding on the east side of Yoyogi but its taken me DAYS just to get to around 13 beads. Is there a better way? There HAS to be a better way.
>>186729729
Learn Diarahan?
>>186729729
Buy them online.
>>186729729
>needing heal items this far
nigga you cant be serious right ?
>>186729847
I would rather not learn Diarahan or any other healing moves considering I only have my 8 skill slots. If I can replace that functionality with items, I should because I can then use that skill slot for something more useful, like Void Expel or Tarukaja.
>>186730182
I'm on Hard mode, making items drop less frequently. I'm also not leveling up my demons (because I can't use them in battle) so I'm not receiving gift from them.
>>186730274
drop the buffs meme you're better of putting nulls and repels into your demons desu
>>186730487
I'm not using demons.
>>186730578
Skills? Interested what you have. Fog Breath and Focus are essential obviously, though this is the case on any run of the game.
>>186730721
Fog Breath won't actually be useful for Metatron, considering he uses Dekuna a lot. I've already burnt it, but I still have Sukunda ready to be learnt. War Cry is more useful because he only ever buffs his magic and phys attacks. I just fought Beel, so I still have Drain Force, but I'm replacing it with Tarukaja. The Idea is that I want to take down Metatron as quick as possible once he starts using Fire of Sinai.
>>186731327
Interesting. I always love seeing weird runs of nocturne. There was a guy who did a insane run of nocturne where he could only get exp from bosses, can't use magatama, no fiends, and a bunch of other bullshit. He beat lucifer at level 53, was pretty cool.
>>186711368
>a lot of gay
Having looked through the folder in it's entirety finally this is a bit of a understatment. Still, even though I'm not a fujoshit this folder is excellent. Thanks again for uploading it.
>>186731327
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1HP3bfmrc63F29uiKlTKnhsu-p_48xOEnKH9J5KbsRyw/edit?usp=sharing
I based my skills off of a series on YT. If anyone is interested, this is how I planned out my playthrough. I'm updating with notes as I learn more strats.
>>186731774
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-I_EMSFNG0
Not this right? This is pretty insane, I grinded like a bitch to level 95 on normal for Lucifer
>>186734729
Yeah, that was it. That guy does some pretty crazy runs. He makes the battles looks pretty easy too, like that level is normal to fight lucifer at.
>>186735520
Yeah he only had one or two "oh shit" moments, meanwhile my Lucifer fight was a 90 minute "what do i do" war of attrition until I finally ran out of items and died
>>186717045
I recently blew about $130 CAD on this Demi Fiend figure. He's usually much more expensive but I think the one I bought has a damaged box or something. It hasn't arrived yet but the quality looks pretty decent. He's also the only mainline protag that I've seen figures made for.
>>186736674
I remember seeing a review for this figure from a collector of smt figures, they had said that was the best figure of any human in the series yet. Personally as much as I love demi I don't collect statues.
I pray for a figma line of the protagonists. I would buy a SMTI hero, Aleph, Demifiend, SJ hero, and Flynn figma in a fucking heartbeat.
>>186711368
>a lot of gay,
>DSJ will just add more gay
post cute?
>>186738417
>>186738417
>>186739793
I always forget Nemissa is suppose tp have full body tattoos.
>>186724952
>all those doujin/smutfic ideas
GET THESE
TO A WRITEFAG
ASAP
>>186724952
>post law ending
>procreation
>>186739793
>tattoos
DROPPED
>>186740196
Just go for Hitomi instead
>>186733561
>>186731327
>>186730578
>>186730274
>>186729729
>>186734729
https://www.romhacking.net/hacks/3299/
>>186739793
so that's what a femifiend would look like
>>186717586
>tfw we will never get the uncensored version
>>186721225
>that one random NPC in Hawaii that pronounced Takamaki correctly
>>186742841
It's for the best. That art looks like shit, man.
>>186742841
imma cry
Can anyone do me a favor and make this strange journey image into a proper wallpaper? Every other SJ wallpaper has the title logo which bothers my autism and /wsr/ is deader then here even.
>>186743734
THANK YOU
>>186744180
Seriously, I keep seeing it, and I can't figure out why everyone cares so much. Nothing about it looks good.
>>186738417
>>186743734
>>186744180
>>186744287
Let's be honest, I think most people would take whatever they could get. Not counting persona SMT is a wasteland when it comes to porn.
>>186744382
There's an alright amount out there. Alex a shit anyway.
>>186743734
I think it looks ok anon. but I don't want to see uncensored, no need, rather not. Imagination works best.
>>186738417
>>186744287
Looks fine to me. To each his own i guess.
>>186744525
Are you kidding? Every girl basically has only a single digit amount of porn pics. Just isn't popular for porn. It is interesting to me that even #FE, a game that basically endorses people to draw porn of itself, got basically nothing but a few shitty tsubabsa pics.
>>186744965
Look harder, you dummy. There's not an ever flowing amount, but it's out there.
>>186738417
>>186744826
I really like the older art of Alice a lot more, she looks so much crueler. But I guess then the lolifags would cry.
>>186744759
>To each his own i guess.
Not a chance.
>>186745264
>imfuckingplying
I want this alice to step on me
>>186709692
First stage of Ouroborus in SJ, I did the goblin alignment trick and went to chaos, considering how long it took tho I was closer to law
>>186744180
>THANK YOU
you know the drill don't ya?
>>186746048
I don't carry any change, man. Just leave me alone okay?
>>186746803
Give me a modest amount of your MP.
>decide to download that strange journey folder the anon posted
>going through it to delete the gay shit
>it never ends
Why is there so many fujoshit SMT art?
>>186747234
Where's the link? I want some fujoshi art.
>>186747407
See
>>186715874
Basically a huge as fuck strange journey fan art folder. Quite a lot of gay shit. Not my thing but I guess I'm glad you'll enjoy it.
>>186694941
Other than raidou since all endings are canon have we had a cannon law ending?
>>186748981
No game has a canon ending.
>>186748981
I don't believe so. Atlus is pretty strict on trying to give the image that no ending is canon. There are exceptions, in SMTI the neutral ending is genuinely canon as the world of SMTII is a result of it, but often no ending is made canon.
>>186748981
It's not quite a cannon but there is a rocket in SMT2's law ending.
>>186749228
Even in SMTI neutral isn't canon. Its only canon from the perspective of 2. But there's a phone game that continues form its law ending too, so neither is more canon than the other.
>>186748981
Even though neutral was canon the result of it was a world of LAW.
>>186749337
>But there's a phone game that continues form its law ending too
Interesting, name? Also since we know alternate universes are a thing in SMT every ending is canon to a degree.
>>186749245
>>186749564
This one has better smugness to it but the IV:A's smile is hilarious.
Will it ever be topped?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjMk5PL2bjg
>>186742841
I was the original requester in the draw thread and I believe the artist just drew it like that to screw with us. Kinda shame because the art itself looks pretty good
>>186750902
Did you see the actual porn pic another artist drew?
>>186750967
http://vidyart.booru.org/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=341261
This was another one made by someone else, but as far as I know for the censored one it is the only one that exists and getting uncensored requires someone to finish it
Page 10 bump
>>186744091
What do you actually want?
>>186754762
I was thinking maybe have the earth in the back ground extended on both sides. I don't now how you want to do it but if you're willing to the only real thing that matters is that the protagonist stays in the center.
>SMTIV was only 19€ in the eShop
Im doing it guys! Im gonna get my ass beat!
>>186755231
SMTIV is a bit weird. The first five or so hours are brutal and after beating Medusa the game becomes one of the easiest SMT games.
>>186755231
do it, its well worth it
>>186755286
A lot of rpgs are like this actually. They balance horribly, and get way easier once you get reliable heal all spells. Golden sun being a huge offender.
>>186755231
Get ready for the Dark Souls of Persona
I just want a cross over where all the Louises (and Hikaru) meet each other
>>186755434
Well Golden Sun is pure shit though.
Typically SMT is pretty good about balance but SMTIV just kind of stops trying to give a true challenge once you beat Medusa.The only boss that can give me trouble after her was King Kenji.
>>186755634Louis Cypherwas still the best Lucifer disguise.
>>186755663
>golden sun
>bad
I respectfully disagree with your opinion, but of course this is because of nostalgia.
>>186755192
It didn't work, but I tried.
i really feel like replaying some SMT, should I replay Nocturne or IV?
>>186756640
Dude I'm sorry but I genuinely just think it's bad. I tried it a few years ago hearing the reputation it held and just wasn't impressed. The battle system is okay but nothing great, dijins really didn't add much I felt. The plot and characters are paper thin which would be fine but the gameplay doesn't make up for this and the game has a metric fuck ton of text to explain the most basic, generic things, also seeing the little emote things from everyone was annoying. The art is technically impressive but I didn't think it was a necessarily good style. The music ranged from good to generic. And finally the dungeon design felt very basic.
I think for it's release time it was a fine game but I just don't see how people would enjoy it today. Even on the gba alone you have things like pokemon, mario and luigi, and mother 3 which are all so much better jrpgs.
>>186757273
Its an adventure story. Its pretty cool. Until golden sun 3 killed the series.
>>186756956
Roll for it.
0-4 IV
5-9 Nocturne
>Just beat SMT x FE
Wow what a fucking ride, who knew that Hector was actually the demon king in disguised. The choice between Marth and Demifiend tore me up. But in the end I chose the neutral pass with Lyn and Ike and we kicked butt. Wow what a great cross over. What did you guys think?
Cant wait for the dlc.
>>186757370
Alright lets try it out, I would play others too but I just really feel like playing those two
>>186756954
What are you talking about, it looks great. Thanks for my new wallpaper anon, I deeply appreciate it.
>>186756956
Genuinely nocturne is just the better game, not to say IV is bad though. I think nocturne just has better replay value overall and is more fun.
>>186757371
I'm not even a FEfag and reading this breaks my heart.
>>186757359
>Its an adventure story
Yeah except the story is generic as fuck and the characters are cardboard cutouts of jrpg tropes.
I don't want to get too off topic here, maybe we should end the GS discussion here.
>>186757492
What do you ever mean anon? Dont tell me you are STILL stuck at the Demi-fiend and the Ephriam fight.FE is my second favorite franchise after SMT. I still get sad.Lets all get sad together and post SMT x FE fanart
Also while I'm here have my previous wallpaper, maybe someone else will use it.
>>186757698
Shit is to gorey for my taste
>Demi fiend is super angry grrrr
not to shit on your taste bud, but demifiend has always been more on the chill side then on the pure anger side of personaltys.
>>186757663>FE is my second favorite franchise after SMT. I still get sad.
My genuine condolences, that's brutal.
I just think it was a dickish move to have a trailer that showed a bunch of beloved and well known characters then only to later, and fucking years later at that, show that literally none of them will be in it.
>>186757918
Always felt in the cold hatred side.
>>186757663
Anyone got the sequel to pic related?
With bunny showing up
>>186757918
Interesting, I always saw him as the coldest, most heartless of any of the protagonists. Though that may be that I always associate the TDE as being the true ending.
Still, maybe even he has some goodness in his heart. I still enjoy cute art with him.
>>186758003
>>186758031
Ayy.
>>186757592
I mean...how is that much different from the vast majority of JRPGs? There are thousands of them whose casts literally just go down a list of anime character traits and tick them off, one-by-one.
I'm not really defending Golden Sun here but you can't claim something like that without realizing that it holds true for 90% of JRPGs.
>>186757371
>Not going law with Kamui and the Nohr siblings as Mastema told you.
>>186758205
I don't know, a lot of my favorite jrpgs either have pretty good, not super cliche characters or don't focus on the characters so it barely matters.
I think more then anything the text annoyed me. I don't mind the characters and story being basic, that's genuinely fine, the problem is they have so much text for what is such a simple premise and a basic cast.
>>186758003
It still boogles my mind just how some #FE fans swear its really is a crossover. But apparently its not Atlus's fault, and instead NoA. It was NEVER pushed as SMT x FE in Nippon. So yea, fuck NoA and fuck tree house.
But if they would have gone with. you know SMT x FE think of all the new blood SMT could have gotten since FE blow the fuck up. I got into FE and have played all but the NES games because of one trailer and this promo. I dont mean to go an a autistic rant but just like that mass effect 3 copy pasta image, I will never not be angry.
also thanks for the sequel image
>>186758236
>Nohr
>law
>>186758452
>but just like that mass effect 3 copy pasta image
I feel your rage, son of man.
>>186758236
How the fuck is nohr law? They're pretty straightforward chaos. They even have the training session that routinely harms the people involved.
If a villain from fire emblem is law its prince lyon from sacred stones. Since his entire thing was about being okay killing in order to cause a greater peace. Even if he was misled about its necessity.
>>186758452
Yeah fair point. I'm not trying to sound like a elitist, not a FEfag as I said, but looking at the fanbase of the 3ds FE games and honestly I can say I'm glad I don't have to see those people come to the SMT fanbase.
Even if I would have bought it only for SMT it still makes me sad to see it become #FE. I remember thinking FE was a kind of weird but okay enough choice for a crossover. I remember think it would maybe be some project x zone like srpg and just be pure fan service, which would've been fine for me.
>Mastema's name will probably be changed in the switch game since the character limits won't be a issue anymore
Will you get used to call him Mansemat /smtg/?
>people here still buttblasted over Wii U exclusives
This ride will never end
>>186758524
always makes me giggle. It took me some time to decieded which is worse but I think SMT x FE is worse for me since, it was not one but TWO (2) fuck yous from TWO (2) different game series. But I still hate bio ware. and havent played a game after that day
>>186758664
Think of most of the 3ds FE crowd as NuPersona fans. And am saying this as someone who came from the 3ds. Its very very waifu heavy. Not that much substance for the most part. The divide of NuFE fans and Oldschool fans is no where near as big though as Nupersona and SMT fags I think. If you like DeSu I would say check out the older FE games.
>>186758879
Nobody's buttblasted over a game being exclusive to a single console, you fucking moron. Please go back to /v/ with your console war garbage.
>>186758827
Probaly not.
Speaking of the character limit
>noctunre
>nickname has 8 characters
>both "demifiend" and "hitoshura" are 9 characters
Triggers the fuck out of me.
>>186758827
No fuck that.
Romhack with proper handsome angel's name when?
>>186758827
>implying SMT x Switch is not vaporwere
When are we getting new info on it dam it?
>>186758879
>muh console wars
>>>/v/
No one want to deal with that shit.
>>186758925
Demons already nickname him Demi-fiend. There's no use in naming yourself like that.
>>186758925
Put your own name in you piece of shit. Stop playing the game wrong.
>>186758827
What character limits? I'm pretty sure there are a bunch of demons with 8+ letters in their name.
>>186758879
I have a Wii U and this conversation is reviving my buttblast over the bait and switch.
>>186755634
Must be a magical place.
>>186759023
>self-insertfags telling anyone how to properly play a game
Eat your takoyaki John-kun.
>>186759159
If you have a panic attack over the fact that you're using a western name you can literally find the japanese equivalent to your name. You know that names translate between languages, right? You're supposed to use your name, its the entire point of the series.
>>186759227
im a white girl with a name that is from japan (and elsewhere), what now faggot
>>186759227
You are using a name that is only vaguely related to your own. By that point there is no difference between looking up a pseudo-equivalent of your name or just using any jap name you could think of.
Doi is a fucking hack where's the shota demons?
>>186759340
No you're not. If you were to move to a new country you'd most likely be using this name when talking to people speaking that language. The important thing is that the name represents you, not what exact name it is.
>not naming yourself AAA
Casuls
>>186758664
It's interesting that Fire Emblem Echoes visually looks somewhat like SMTIV with bigger budget.
>>186759327
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>>186759459
>not naming yourselfATLUS
>>186759381
Doi could never top this boypussy.
>>186759547
Go away Atlus USA.
You bunch of hacks.
>Using actual names
I use my all CAPS online alias that I made up back when I played maplestory. Fight me immersion and self inserting fags.
>>186759731
Using an OC seems even more pathetic. And don't kid yourself, that's basically what you're doing. Fucking Maple Story fag
>>186759731
Using your own alias is the equivalent of using your name. The choice is between a name that represents -you- versus trying to use a canon name.
>>186759731
It is fitting for games like DeSu or Soul Hackers.
You are one of us!
>>186759731
Alias is the same as a nickname. Some people I know irl know my online alias and sometimes reffer to me as such
>>186759731
Kaneko philosophy is that the MC is the player. If you dont play as Kaneko intended then get out off my smtg.
>>186759928
Kaneko is not with us anymore and has been surpassed by multiple artists.
His rules no longer apply.
>>186760058
>surpassed
>>186760058
>surpassed
End your pathetic existense.
tfw when you're a self insert faggot and finngolian so both your name and last name have jap homonyms... feels prölölölö.
>>186747234
I warned you bro, I told you bout the gay shit bro.
SMT just has a lot of cool dudes, I guess. Probably a lot of female players in Japan.
>>186716006
It was in the Junkyards original version because she made that place as a paradise of funtime.
Should I sell Aegis
>>186762769
Yeah, no self-respecting man over the age of 18 should own a doll of a chibi anime girl.
>>186762890
Good thing I'm not a man, then.
>>186762963
You're not a princess.
>>186762769
I hate the chibi-look, so I'd say yes.
>>186762963
Even worse. You should only care about make-up, and looking for a new boyfriend.
>>186763045
If I was, I wouldn't wanna sell her for the cash.
>>186763132
What about this chibi?
>>186763219
>makeup
>boyfriend
Nigga, I'm here with you idiots, aren't I?
>>186763270
Still not a fan, but that one does look nicer.
>>186763270
PQ Aigis is her peak chibi appearance.
>>186763348
There's no P3 Nendos aside from her, so yeah. Also the Nendo is selling for over $80 now. I'm being an indecisive faggot, but I'd rather turn that money into a Jack Frost Nendo. Or ust buy video games.
>>186763571
Woah. This one's even better.
Too bad she is from a shit game, so I can't feel so fond or attached to her.
>>186763571
I like Labrys, only character i like from Nu-Persona.
>>186763571
Yeah, agreed. I wouldn't spend 80 bucks on it.
>>186762890
No self-respecting man over the age of 18 would browse 4chan either, specially not something as specific as /smtg/. You're fooling nobody.
>>186694941
>[YouTube] 『真・女神転生 DEEP STRANGE JOURNEY』PV
>[YouTube] 『真・女神転生 DEEP STRANGE JOURNEY』PV #02
>[YouTube] A Stranger Journey Awaits in Shin Megami Tensei: Strange Journey Redux
Are these supposed to be links or are you being a huge faggot by making me go to youtube itself and then search for each of these?
>>186763683
>>186763798
Here's a semi recent statue you guys might like.
>>186763817
I guess when I find her, assuming she's not in storage, I'll just put her on eBay and see if anyone bites.
Not that you care, but if anyone is interested the Nendos are:
Jack Frost, Bunny, Chie, Yukiko, Teddie, Aegis, and upcoming Morgana
The P4 ones were selling dirt cheap, but I think P5 coming out made the price go up.
Figmas are
Door-kun, Yu, Yukiko, Chie, multiple Aegis, Metis, Labrys, and upcoming Joker
I might be forgetting some but whatever, I only have Nendo Aegis and Bunny.
>>186763959
OP fucked up.
>>186764192
I forgot Angel and Pixie figma.
Here's the only fucking non Persona figure I can think of outside Jack Frost.
>>186764819
Well shit, that's nice.
Ah, we'll never get merch like Persona has. Like Atlus couldn't produce cheap demon plushies in China easily if they wanted to. Life's not fair.
>>186077776
the time limit kind of stressed me out and it was kind of boring, but i need to do the whatever "hard" mode run
i also played it right after p1p which i played after p1 so i was probably burned out
>>186764976
He even got a statue.
I feel like the only non-Persona series that got a lot of merch was DeSu 2 and that was because of the anime. Which is depressing and amusing at the same time. I remember someone saying the BD had binned for like 500 JPY a volume
If anyone wants the figure, look for D-Arts/ディーアーツ, judging by sponsor spam on MFC, he's about 5k JPY. Or if you have an MFC account someone is selling him for 35 bucks.
What does /smtg/ think of the new demon?
>>186765287
muh duality
>>186765287
"Boy, I love superheroes"
-Doi
>>186765287
Laaaaame.
>>186765268
>DeSu 2 and that was because of the anime.
kek, such bad judgement by Atlus
>>186765547
even the Fumi statue tanked briefly
>4 months ago
>On sale at Amiami 6,650
it only came out in December
>>186766164
>>186766164
please don't
>>186766164
I....I don't know what to say.
Mazzeltov. The kids will be ugly.
DUDE, DINOSAURS
>>186766578
Maybe it's the Behemoth
>>186766872
>>186697382
It was an ok concept once you got the mechanic. I do find the 2nd story a bit lacking though. The only thing frustrated me is ailment can be a major bitch if your whole team got affected by it.
>>186766164
>>186144945
>he didn't play SMT1
sad desu
>>186765287
Black/White Varna carbon copy
>>186765287
It's Jimenez.
>Arm Blades
>Jimenez normal pose
>Black
He probably ends up fused with Anahita and Maya or something.
>>186770825
Assuming that is Jiminez, given the Duality look, I'm going to assume he's fused with/become the Roman God Janus
New music
https://youtu.be/b7HPUqUk4jA
>>186768052
Cool.
>>186770825
It's jimenez or some other crew member that i can't remember the name.
>>186759023
>putting your own name in
>not putting some autistic name like spurdo sparde, adolf hitler, johnny bravo or ronald mcdonald
>>186772661
>destroying the immersion by naming yourself something stupid
This can really destroy the atmosphere in some moments. I wouldn't recommend doing that on your first playthrough.Welcome back, Crewman Hitler. Thank you for completing your mission-
>>186773019
i don't find real life name particularly important at all. it's a word invented by someone else long ago, and imposed onto you by your parents. it doesn't define you, it confines you to your parents' vision of what they think you should be.
i also don't/can't really immerse myself. in the end i always end up feeling like some sort of god watching over the characters doing their shit, and the character i'm supposed to play as ends up as another npc on the board.spurdo-san! there you are! i was looking for you!ebin.
>>186773339
I picked up SMT IV for my first SMT game because people recommended it to newcomers but I hate the fact that you can save anywhere and smirking doesn't counterbalance it from a game design standpoint.
I'm gonna switch and can't decide between P3FES or SMT Nocturne. Do I flip a coin for it?
>>186774487
idk try nocturne
>>186774487
I suggest you avoid Persona 3 unless you really want to play a social sim with bare-bones RPG elements and a mediocre randomly-generated dungeon.
>>186774487
Nocturne is probably the most popular here and if you play P3 /pg/ will most likely be able to help because we dont discuss much persona outside of P1 and 2
>>186774589
Yeah, I feel like I'll like its story BUT I just finished Cold Steel and I had enough text to last for weeks.
I'll go Nocturne.
>>186774665
calm down anti persona kun
>>186774693
Well, you're in luck because Nocturne's about as bare as it gets in terms of text. Can always give P3 a whirl later on, too.
Just remember to seek out the candelabrum and the labyrinth of amala.
What is a better str demon in Raidou 2 other than Tam Lin? I've been using him since chapter 1 and currently in chapter 4.
>>186774487
If you really want to go with P3, just don't start off with P3P. FES is the better choice, so yeah. But if you want challenge and fighting actual demons, Nocturne is the better fit.
Will it ever happen?
>>186776951
NEVER EVER!
>>186776951
That game has been out for like two decades.
Why Pascal theme plays when you meet Alice in Roppongi?
>>186778456
why u no english gud
>>186778793
How new
>>186774487
What a strange reason to drop a game. I hate to be one of those "just don't use it if u don't like it" fags but if the option to save is the main thing stopping you from completing a game then maybe you can just try your best to save less.
>>186780439
pretty much this, restricted saves=good challenge is one of the worst memes to fall for
>>186768052
>>186774487
Well, it is actually good to have free save function in SMTIV and Apoc because in the long run, you are going to be needing it. You are playing on a portable device after all.
So, since I have not play Soul Hackers and planning to get it soon, does it have the same saving function or is it restricted to savepoints like every other SMT games?
>>186781783
Save points with an optional app thing to save anywhere
>>186780369
being retarded isnt a very good meme, take it to v
>>186780439
>just don't use it if u don't like it
That's just a half-assed excuse to avoid accepting the fact that their entire game is balanced around saving anywhere.
>>186780556
>restricted saves = good challenge
Good or bad it's a challenge in any definition you want, given that going from point A from point B will affect your decision making and risk taking.
>>186781783
>You are playing on a portable device after all.
Strange Journey was also on a portable device and had no save anywhere. If you want to stop and play some other time just put the damn portable to sleep. No reason to affect the game's balance because the device happened to be portable.
>>186787442
>That's just a half-assed excuse to avoid accepting the fact that their entire game is balanced around saving anywhere.
What? How the fuck did you get that? You know there's a continue system, right?
>>186787545
>saving impacts balance meme
saving anywhere means you can not save whenever you want! saving is a good thing, there's literally no argument that can be made against it.
>>186787442
>Good or bad it's a challenge in any definition you want, given that going from point A from point B will affect your decision making and risk taking.
The game becomes much easier after Medusa, as you'll come across many healing areas and the like. There's really not much of a risk to be had unless you somehow get bullshitted by a surprise encounter (even then you can just use some play coins to continue).
>>186765287
Better than any of the other new demons by a mile.
>>186787556
SMT IV's continue was almost always got circumvented by the casual babbies and why the fuck not since Burroughs told me when a boss was close, so I never had to pay a single macca.
I know they're trying to appeal to a larger mainstream audience because SMT games were considered "2hard4me" by many who started with SMT IV for their first game. Profit is the only response, and sorry to inform you but self-imposing a ruleset for no armor/no save anywhere or blindfolded doesn't magically makes the intended game design better.
Another blatant example of Atlus half-assedly appealing to the mainstream audience is the upcoming Deep Strange Journey. But if you don't believe me, check the balance of P3P. That's right, nonexistent. They just threw manual party control and "Mania" difficulty and called it a day.
>>186787935
>saving is a good thing, there's literally no argument that can be made against it.
Too bad I just have one:
The crux of game design is on the developer controlling what the player can and cannot do at any given time. Game design wouldn't exist if players had complete, full control 100% of the time. Plain and simple. Game design is about leading the player to do what you want them to do without them realizing it.
Stop for a second and consider the facts, not from your lazy player perspective (baw I don't want to replay 5 minutes of game because I can't save anywhere) and think of it from a design perspective (We want the player to be punished for failure so they learn from their mistakes).
All games are restrictive. Life is restrictive. If you don't like games being restrictive don't play them, all games restrict you in some way, that's what game design is all about. The whole point of game design is restricting the player just enough to allow them to learn.
Saving anywhere lessens the punishment. People don't have the patience or self-reflection to think what the fuck they choose wrong and just blame the game for wanting them to grind (which most of the time isn't the case, grinding is the lazy way out). Dragon Quest XI for that matter got improved A.I. for the team because apparently player made lousy decisions (NO WAY!) so the A.I. teammates will do shit like reviving someone who died at the same turn as player assist.
You may not give a fuck about how restricting player interactions affects game design, but don't go around saying that it doesn't affect it.
>>186788239
>SMT IV's continue was almost always got circumvented by the casual babbies and why the fuck not since Burroughs told me when a boss was close, so I never had to pay a single macca.
That's not the point. If the entire game was balanced around saving anywhere, there wouldn't be a continue system at all (that forces you to pay), because why would there be if they want you to save everywhere. Saving anywhere is just a QoL change because not being able to save where you want tends to lead to a lot of backtracking and headaches in the long run. Yes, you can call it challenge, but that doesn't make it a good type of challenge--as I've stated before. You want your challenge to be from the game's mechanics themselves, not fighting said mechanics to make progress.
>But if you don't believe me, check the balance of P3P. That's right, nonexistent. They just threw manual party control and "Mania" difficulty and called it a day.
P3P's balance problems came from the fact that they didn't balance the game with being able to control your party members in mind. It was laziness more than anything else (though this is odd since they added a few things to the game). The same can't be said of SMTIV.
>>186788730
>and think of it from a design perspective (We want the player to be punished for failure so they learn from their mistakes)
And this is also a baffling statement. You are punished for your failure through either a game over--which makes you pay up either play coins or Macca--or being forced to reload your last save. This comes to a head when faced with bosses--both of these make you reconsider your strategy and plan accordingly. You learn from your mistakes. You can't just blitz through a boss without taking into effect the strategies the game wants you to know I.E. exploiting weaknesses while keeping your own covered.
>>186788730
And to continue on from this:
>People don't have the patience or self-reflection to think what the fuck they choose wrong and just blame the game for wanting them to grind
Not being able to save where you want lowers the bar for this. People's patience is easily lowered if they're forced to replay a few minutes of the progress they've lost, and can thus blame the game much quicker than if they were just able to save before a boss and then retry and rethink their strategy if they lose.
This is such a retarded issue and I honestly can't fathom why you think saving anywhere brings a ruination to the game as a whole.
Anyone else gonna try to summon anything during the eclipse?
>>186790470
a good amount of sunlight for boktai
>>186790470
I'll summon a husbando.
>>186787545
Why are so adamant on this whole unrestricted saving function. It is not even close to savescumming. You still cannot save while in battle. Also I'd like to save my battery power, sleeping the device while the game is still running will drain the battery faster than usual.
Say whatever you want, the function really works well when you fucked up your alignment choices and messed up your demon fusions. If anything I'd be grateful to Atlus for actually letting this function a thing in IV and Apoc. Persona won't be needing the system because it isn't relevant to the series for a long run. You must know that not everyone likes to do additional playthrough just because of the alignments. Like the other anon have stated, if you don't like to save your game that much, just restrict yourself and don't force it as if others have the same preference as you do, dear autistic anon.
I know being salty is the flavor of SMT. I have recently felt the pain going through the same fight just because an okikumushi panics my party in Raidou and that was after I defeated a boss, while reaching to previous savepoint. Punishment is good and all but I would like to save my time by not replaying the same thing over and over again just because unexpected RNG drops.
>>186758236
>He didn't side with Loptyr and Lucifer to bring about True Demon II
>>186790470
Anyone have a Demon Summoning Program .apk?
>>186775226
I personally enjoy Fenrir and Cerberus but what level are you
>>186790470
Fucking americunts having eclipses at normal hours, while in europe we always have at shit hours like 5am, so no one bothers with that
>>186791007
Just .bas and .exe
>>186791589
I'll take em
>>186791169
Fuck, when IS the Eclipse, anyway?
>>186792823
Depends on where you are. Some parts of the US have reached totality already.
Does Rakunda reduce magic defense?
>>186792978
We've got nothing yet in New England, although my manager has a stream going on his phone.
>>186793352
It reduces all defense.
Does DDS1 not have a Luster Candy-type skill?
>>186793775
maybe as a combo skill, but I'm not sure if DDS2 has introduced that
>>186788730
>Stop for a second and consider the facts
>grinding is the lazy way out
>All games are restrictive.
>Life is restrictive.
>>186793417
New England gets a decent partial one around 2:40PM. Greetings from Boston.
>>186795018
>tfw its cloudy in Michigan so i can't see it
>>186795219
I don't have glasses or whatever to look at it, I'm just going to leave my office to observe the weird semi-darkness for a minute.
>>186795219
Me and you both
I really hate these civilian protection missions in DeSu so I want to kill everyone when I become the king or is there any reason not to
>>186797014
You get a different ending, if you want to be an edgelord go for it
>>186795219
>wanting to look at the sun
I'm ashamed of my fellow Americans. Tommorow a number is going to come out of all the people who got blinded
>>186790470
>tfw too scared to summon demons
>>186799324
>mfw my birds have been acting erratic all sine the partial eclipse has started.
Oh boy can't wait for my bird based demons
>>186798917
>he doesn't know there's ways to look at a solar eclipse without fucking up your eyes
>>186712846
Fine, I'll go watch the dub right now senpai.
>>186799857
You have any idea how many false productproducts are out on the market? You can use cardboard and house shit but why bother. I'm not autistic so I have no desire to look at the sun.
>>186799489
>my birds
>>186720256
You have a nice voice, anon.
>>186801107
This is anon's bird
>>186801231
sweet, jealous
>>186801231
There's a dick?
>>186720431
It is only natural for chaosfools and neuters to want to drag down the righteous to their level, son of man.
>>186793775
Like >>186793964 said. No Luster Candy type skill in DDS1. In DDS2 there's a combo skill called Charge which is the same thing.
>>186801107
>current year
>not owing the closest thing to demons
>>186802276
Can't deal with the constant screeching. Would rather have a Jack of some kind. Probably Frost, maybe one of the delicious flavored ones.
>>186802662
I guess what I'm saying is that a sno-cone is the closest thing to a demon in real life.
>>186749482
Shin Megami Tensei: 20XX.
>>186798917
I remember looking at partial eclipse without any protection and my sight is good as new
Well /smtg/?
>>186803447
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84Ok6fAq0cY
fuck YES i would
Demeter is cute! I want her to be my demon imouto.
I want to have a demon not because I want power or fug, but because I want to have a friend that I can talk to
>>186805498
Patrician taste.
Demons are friends not fuggs.
>>186805498
I can't think of a single demon who would do that.
>>186803605
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-x9F9UX_Y8
BETTER
>>186805731
There's a few at least.
>>186803605
>>186803447
I actually think she is kind of cute so yes I would
>you will never be with an Adverage qt who likes smt
>>186803605
I never realised how retarded that outfit was before.
She cool though.
>>186805498
I think pokemon would be better for that. Maybe something more innocent like a Jack Frost could work but most would be prone to killing you or someone else.
>>186805729
Mothman is too good for this world.
>>186807305
I always felt Aleph's design was the weakest of the mainline protagonists, at least until Nanashi.
Demonica > Demi-fiend > The Hero > Flynn > Aleph > Nanashi
>>186808271
I love costumes, so I'd put Flynn right below space marines, but we can all agree that Nanashi is fucking awful.
Oh well, he's a teenager.
>playing MT I
>find Gaia for the Silver Relief
>charges me all 144k macca I had
Man, I'm enjoying this game, but fuck, that's nonsense.
>>186809043
>Not investing in physical items
You won't survive after macca inflates.
>>186696496
college is a meme, don't waste your time. just work on an oil rig or something and invest your money into some property
>>186698330
Tom and his cohorts will put an end to the rule of Gideon Zhi and grant us true salvation.
>>186808897
Nanashi isn't even bad, just kind of boring. I like the jacket but the hair annoys me.
What bothers me is prototype Nanashi was god tier.
>>186810446
this is just asahi's dead with a hat
>>186810540
Asahi's dad is prototype Nanashi without a hat.
>>186810540
>asahi's dead
>>186694941
/pg/ here. I saw the OP and thought for a moment that I had entered the /pg/ thread. I didn't know you liked Persona 3 so much, /smtg/-senpai!Yes, I am just false flagging.
>>186811432
Jokes on you because I do like P3!
>>186808271
>Demonica > Demi-fiend > The Hero > Flynn > Aleph > Nanashi
No, it's Demonica > Demi-fiend > Flynn > The Hero > Nanashi > Aleph
any other list is objectively incorrect
>>186811432
i like both
>>186812067
>Flynn not dead fucking last
>The Hero that low
>>186811432
Personally my stance is "as long as they occasionally make a mainline SMT or a spinoff like mainline SMT I don't care however many persona 3/4/5 spinoffs they make".
>>186759327
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>>186812361
What's wrong with Flynn? I would rank him fourth.
>>186811432
>not a new IP
Yeah you need to work on those falseflagging skills.
>>186812067
no, it's MT2 Hero > The Hero > Aleph > Demonica > Demi-Fiend > Nanashi > Flynn
Demonica is overrated while Cyber 90s Jesus is underrated
>>186762963
Why do I feel like /smtg/ has a surprisingly large amount of grills
>>186812590
This is exactly my list.
>>186812590
>Demonica is overrated
Repent now son of man.
>>186812717
smt as w whole likes surprisingly large number of grills
>>186813140
DeSu 2 brought us lots of fujos.
get the persona out of my smt general reeeeeeeeeeeeee
>>186798917
people want to observe the origins of the black sun.
>>186812361
Flynn's design is clean as fuck my guy
>>186814129
>black sun
God has cursed us all.
>>186813140
tfw on 4chan such statements are ambiguous since it can be either grill or a proud manchild
>>186814558
She died for our sins but now humanity is eternally savedKilling Mem Aleph with Mastema and Demiurge in my party was very thematic
>>186814656
Sorry anon; I meant "The Lord". I am glad to meet a fellow lawfriend with such great respect for YHVH.
>>186815054
Space Marine is so based that YHVH joined his party.
SJ MC is the GOAT.
>>186815115
>lawfagsMetatron is pretty cool though
I just 'cleared' YHVH's universe and im standing before the final boss. I feel like the whole dungeon reputation's overblown, having seen the maps posted around. Sure it's a maze where you wander around pretty aimlessly until you run into bosses, but it's just empty space. I didn't even have to run around the last part that much.
Now YHVH's bum rushing me with that max stats and smirk spell...
>>186817618
Dekunda, dekaja and magaon are basically must haves
>>186817618
When I see people say YHVH's Universe is hard I just wonderif they played Strange Journey. Sector Eridanus still haunts me.
Did you go the anime route or the edgelord route?
>>186817980
Yeah, I ended up losing because I ran out of mana basically, I couldn't heal, dekaja and remove smirk all in the same turn
>>186818037
The dungeon's nothing compared to Horologium or even Nocturne's Tower of Kagutsuchi.
Edgelord naturally, no regrets.
>>186818037
The only reason why I would say YHVH universe is easier is because running from battles and avoiding battles overall is easier. That and yhvh university is just a boring walk around with little chance of dying.
>>186817618
The only problem with that is how drag it is. Just just walk in empty open spaces while you don't get anything useful or interesting fights
>>186818286
>Edgelord naturally, no regrets.
Nice. Over time I have to say I think I may find it more fun overall even if it is the "morally incorrect" choice. By the end the only character that didn't make want to pull my hair out is Dagda and Navarre.
>>186818638
Another question now. Is the Flynn/Satan party beneficial at all? I feel like having them fight makes him just have 3 more press turns to buff himself to max and smirk. This is especially troublesome if Flynn dies: I get a single turn where I have to choose to remove his smirk or his buffs, for no benefit at all
I asking this question here because i would like to know you guy's opinions: anything you folks would want out of Persona Q 2?
>>186819274
Spamming godslayer sword or whatever it was called makes YHVH weak to a bunch of shit which is quite useful
>>186819865
I guess, but my party setup, the main source of damage will always be Akasha Arts, I don't really need that
>>186819801
Persona 2 characters? A decent game? I never played Q since I haven't heard anything good about it
>>186819801
Status ailments to not be as strong as they were. That's really about it.And Nanjo, but that's never happening.
>>186819274
Godslayer sword weakens YHVH so basically just that.
>>186819801
Money to pay for SMT V.
>>186820015
Also, wouldn't mind having Yuzo Koshiro back to compose more than just one track for PQ2.
>>186819801
Keep the MCs silent when you choose one to play as and a more serious history (If the story is serious then trow P1&2 characters, otherwise no). Wouldnt mind if they revive P3 MC on it as a follow up toward dance.
DUDE I WANNA POUND DEMETER
>>186818638
>morally incorrect
I dunno; you did agree to Dagda's contract at the start of the game. Meanwhile you never promised anything to your "friends" so there's no integrity lost by killing them.I actually view massacre as the morally correct choice. Bonds is giving up humanity's chance at freedom from YHVH for your tenuous friendships.
>>186819801
Postgame stratum. Bummed me out tremendously I beat the game at level 70 and never got to see the last 20-30 personas. Either that or scale the game to end at level 99 like in 4A.
>>186819801
For the characters to not be flanderized to the point of annoyance like the first
>>186770825
>the arms
ohh. What happened to Bugaboo?
Plus now, wonder if Zelenin will get a similar thing
>>186820053
>>186819865
Thanks. I'm giving up for now, I feel like I'm missing a demon with heals that has over 600 health. Inanna is just dying on me too quick. And maybe I'd have a better chance if Isabeau used Luster Candy every turn instead of nuking for 100 damage
>>186819801
More balance so I can't cheese my way spamming mudo and hama with Naoto and Ken.The tone should be the same desu le gritty dark story makes no sense in a fanservice spin off.
>Play P5
>look for similar games
>everyone says Nocturne
>Start playing it
>It's a clunky barebones low budget PS2 game with nothing but random encounters and bosses being arbitrarily thrown at you
It's amazing how Persona became so good branching from such a mediocre series
Alright, I have to ask.How bad is the SMT reddit? Every time I've been there it seems like people talk like here, using terms like faggot and retard and don't gave peoplebitching about it. I like /smtg/ but it can be quite slow.
>>186823538
(You)
>>186823538
(You)
>>186823676
Don't bother. I used to browse there and it's mosty /r/personacirclejerk and non stop shitty memes.
>>186823538
It's amazing just how much of a fucking faggot you are. Nocturne was a big budget title for atlas. Go back to /pg/ and discuss your autism.
>giving (You)s to obvious bait
Please.
do demons poop?
>>186823676
I actually like how slow this gen is. It's really comfy and gets fun when we have random bursts of activity with nice conversations.and you guys are the only ones who are nice to me on /vg/
>>186811068
good
>>186823676
/vg/ is too fucking fast actually its almost at trash board tier speed like /a/, /b/ and /v/. on good boards threads survives for weeks.
>>186815307
>>186814656
dumb hoyposters
>>186824045
yeah he's just baiting just to keep the thread alive
>>186825084
great now it's dead again
>>186824928
HOY
>>186825254
kys
Anybody know how to get any clean rips of the sound effects that happen when open your phone in SMT IV:A?
>>186825994
lawfag detected
>>186823538
>similar games for P5
newfag
>>186823538
Tyrone, you are but casual scum. Why don't you play a REAL Shin Megoomy Tensay game, like Nocturne or Strange Journey? Persona 4 is a casuals dating sim that panders to lonely waifufags. Visuals novels a shit. I'll be here fighting angels in the name of chaos while you cling to Chee. Can you even take on the armies of Y.H.V.H. and fight in the name of chaos? I bet you dream of holding Chee's hand instead of claiming the world in Lucifer's own glory. Do you even dungeon crawling? Try not to feel too bad but your objectively best waifu in the entire series is actually Louisa Ferre from Strange Journey and Chee is but a bacon and unpure girl compared to her. This is Rog signing out, and remember, Let's positive thinking.
Serious question, /smtg/, which of the PS2 SMT games would have the lowest learning curve to someone who's only played Persona, Devil Survivor, SMTIV, and Soul Hackers?
/pg/ is a shitshow, and I want to be able to post when something besides those games are discussed.
>>186828926
Digital Devil Saga
>>186828926
Just play Nocturne
>>186828926
Probably Digital Devil Saga or SMT 3 Nocturne.
Both uses SMT IV press turn system except stuff like smirk and only losing half a turn when summoning demons (Nocturne). DDS also has some kind of combo system ala Persona 3.
>>186828926
Any of them.
>>186822296
I beat himafter switching from War to Conflict. Didn't want to grind several hours for perfect demons
>>186823676
I remember lurking years ago and it was ok, I checked a few months ago and it was full of Persona threads. I remember there was a guy who read Japanese, DekuNova or something, who would often give insights on the original versions (especially the Raidou ones, who have a particular setting) but it seems he had disappeared. Bunker_man still posts his wall of text though.
>>186757371
I can honestly see Jedah as a Law representative. Even YHVH would be moved that he offered his daughters to him. The only reason Jedah might count as Chaos is because is faithfulness threatens Abraham's status as friend of God.
>>186829034
>>186829034
>>186829051
I flipped a coin to decide, and the coin said Nocturne first. After that, DDS, and then Raidou Kuzunoha.
Are the Kuzunoha games not considered good, or were they not suggested due to the wording of my question?
>>186830904
Kuzunoha 1 is mediocre but Kuzunoha 2 is genuinely good.
>>186830904
Raidou games are action RPGs so they dont work if you wanted something similar to the games you played.
1 is rough around the edges but its quite an unique experience. Raidou 2 is all around much better.
>Finish DeSu1
>Start up DeSu2
>Io's tits are even bigger than Yuzu's
They know their audience well
>>186830619
Helps that Jedah is trustworthy. Like a certain angel.
>>186831224
And they made the annoying shit character the GUY this time, so you don't have to feel conflicted about hating the character you're beating off to.
>>186832219
>Can't kill Midori even in the Naoya route
It's not fair
>>186832706
>was referring to Yuzu
Isn't it possible to NOT save Midori in the base game, like how you can let Keisuke die?
Speaking of, did people not like him, because in the manga he wasn't saved. Dude died like a bitch.
>>186832219
Daichi has Shiva thru Hinako's pact with him, and Io with Lugh's power as his main powerhouse if you fight against him.
Ronaldo takes Otome and her mad defenses with him for his egalitarian route.
he did nothing wrong
>>186833065
You can have her leave your party in the Keisuke battle if you give a certain answer, iirc.
>>186833373
He did, supporting a crazy asshole.
>>186832219
>calling Daichi an annoying shit
He is in vanilla DeSu2. In RB he's the ultimate bro, because Ben Diskin's voice acting does him enough justice to completely redeem his entire character for the better.
>>186833362
Don't forget Jungo, who's basically every "World of STR!" guy at once, with all the autism that implies.
Seriously, how is Daichi the worst guy in his own damn route?
>>186833373
>>186833568
He unironically didnt. He was not aware ofSerph´splan to useSerato the extent he did which is why he was concerned whenHeatexposedSerph
>>186833658
I never played Record Breaker, because i didn't like DeSu2 much, and an optional waifu wasn't enough to sell me on a re-release.
Yer my new Godslayer
Okay /smtg/, I need input on this, please excuse the massive autism.
Recently I have been developing a idea for a game inspired by SMT. The game would have a light sci-fi setting in a American style metropolitan city. The main conflict in the game would be regarding the social problems between the humans and robots that live in the city. In this game the robots would be like humans in that they are fully conscious beings, they hold jobs and such. Basically this would just be your typically stuff, like humans thinking robots are taking jobs from them and such. The game would begin with the main character being a full human. near the start you would be involved in a planned disaster that ends up destroying part of your body. You would then be used as a test subject for a cyborg. Ultimately you escape and have new found power being both human and robot. The conflict now is that you are neither fully accepted into human or robot society and are a wanted fugitive.
The SMT influence comes from that ultimately you can choose to side with human kind, robot kind, both, or neither. Siding with human or robot kind would involve you either ushering in a new age of dominance for whatever side you choose, Siding with both is like neutral almost, you would try to keep order between both humans and robots. Finally you can say fuck you to both and just fuck shit up and make the city into a total hell where your rule is final.
Here is my problem, do you guys think the concept of siding with either humans or robots is a good as siding with law or chaos? My worry is that naturally players would never side with robots, obviously the player is a human and probably wouldn't care about their argument. Is this idea too fucking stupid? Do you guys think people would actually decide with the robots?
>>186834856
You could portray humans as being unjustly cruel to robots to give players some sympathy. Anyways, I like this idea and hope you go through with it.Please say its a dungeon crawler ala SMT 1.
>>186834856
I know i would side with the robots if you wrote charming robot charcters or made them work well together, i always like to go against the obvious choice in games and in life, i'm sure you'd find more players like me.
Also, it depends on how well you write the whole thing, Law and Chaos works because there are multiple layers of grey morality and an interesting new world in both in the ending, your idea could work.
>>186834856
I dont see the problem.
Say in SJ you basically side with Chaos because you favor an earth full of life regardless of what means to humans so you can do the same with robots. There are people that would rather see a human suffer than an animal so the same can be said about robots.
With that asidefuck off, ideas guys always hype their shit and in the end do nothing. Like the Devil Cortex guy.
>>186835264
Actually yes. My favorite SMT is SJ and I love SMTI and SMTII. Another thing is that it would have a negotiation system. I would try to make it more complicated, have things like enemies who won't join you or only join you depending on your path.
I just feel like the moral question of "humans or robots" is not as strong as "law or chaos". I worry it would naturally be more in favor of humans and honestly it has made worried this entire idea would fall apart.
>>186834856
>Recently I have been developing a idea for a game inspired by SMT.
Woah hey I'm not falling for this one again after Devil Cortex and GATE
>>186835570
I know, have it so that robots work well and always make progress while humans always make the same mistakes and always talk about MUH HOPE and MUH FEELINGS
>>186834856
Sounds like you need sufficient incentive for the player to WANT to join either Humans or Robots. Maybe before becoming a cyborg, show off how good the human side is and how shitty the robots can be, and then after becoming a cyborg, reverse that and show us Robots being good guys and Humans being assholes, and then have a third event show both of them being SUPER dicks, and then the rest of the story until then shows varying shades of grey for both sides, with little player decisions deciding what gets shown when?How do the robots look? Are they tin can LEGO killdroids, are they like Aigis and Labrys, or what? Appearances can lend a lot of credence to how the player is influenced on an instinctive, subconscious level.
>>186835831
Oh yeah forgot about GATE.
Devil Cortex hurt more since i loved the old school sprites he was gonna add.
>>186835520
>>186835831
Sorry to sound like a ideas guy. I actually am a small time writer with a major in English, though other then stuff like the school newspaper and pamphlets I haven't had had real work.
This idea started as a short story I had and over time I started to think it seems to work better as a game, I would want it to be about people making the choice themself of who or what is best.
I don't plan to make this a thing where I post "progress", this will be my only post about this idea.
>>186835928
Then I feel like I might lean too heavily on the robots. I want it to be even, both being good and shitty in ways.
>>186835948
For the robots I would have them be various degrees of "robotic". Some would appear quite human like, others would be too proud of being a robot and look little like a human.
Thanks to everyone saying their thoughts on my concept. Unless anyone else has input they would want to give I promise to not post this shit again.
>>186836437
Cant speak for everyone, but I dont mind if you post updates every once in a while. Especially if your doing spritework/dungeon design.
>>186836437
>>186836769
Seconded. It may not be strictly SMT related, but as long as it's taking cues from the series and doesn't massively overshadow everything else in the thread, it's fine by me.
>>186836437
Come to us, because SMTG knows the most about how to make a SMT game that wards off casuals
>>186836769
>>186836973
Nah, I know people would shit on it, and then that raises the problem of me promising stuff. Maybe if I really get the idea started I can post back but I'm not going to try to get attention and promise something I can't. As I said, more then anything I am writer, I just began thinking of this concept as a game and I have grown quite attached to it.
Thank you though for the support, I do appreciate it.
>>186740196
fag.
>>186812717
There's like 5 girls. I guess that's a lot in a group or ~30 people.
>>186828669
>Chee is but a bacon
WHAT DOES IT MEAN
>>186812717
Wouldnt say large but the few we have are all right.
>>186838041
>>186838474Tumblrfag hereI noticed that SMTIV seemed to attract a lot of female players. My belief is that Johnathan and Walter interested a lot of them for fujoshit potential and they have stayed.
Just something I notice, not to say this is necessarily true.
Why is Doi such a hack?
>>186812717you'd be suprised.
>>186838719
Would say DeSu 2 had a bigger impact. That and the pseudo-social links.
>>186838719
>tumblr
It's like being suprised why all penguin club fans on barbie.com are grills. You're probably one as well and has some dumb colored hair.
>>186838719
>Tumblrfag here
Please, just go back.
There's 5 girls (3 of them are fujoshitters) and 2 homos who are current regulars on /smtg/
>>186839521
>tfw can't tell the fujo girls apart
>no /smtg/ mainline gf
>>186839312
>>186839390
Not everyone on tumblr reblogs constant SJW shit. I just browse it for cool art and video game shit.
You may not like it but the tumblr is like the mirror world of 4chan. They're a lot more like us then either of us would want to admit.
>>186839786
When I can be bothered to log onto tumblr, I also just use it for pictures. It's a terrible platform for the pseudo blogging people do.
even i play let it die
odd i keep shit posting here
0 i play vita
>>186839786
>mirror world
Honestly, I'd just bite the bullet and call it our Shadow, right down to the "if both sides stopped fighting and accepted each other, they'd end up a healthier person".
>>186840194
>accepting the people of tumblr
That's even worse than accepting a shithole like /v/.
No one would win.
>>186840194
Impossible. 4chan is too contrarian and tumblr is too sensitive. Though most people I follow either just say they browse here or it seems they obviously browse here.
>>186840194
>Popular media references used to demean someone you don't like
We really are tumblr.
>>186840294
>>186840454
>stmg considering accepting tumblr before pg
>>186840768
>>>/pg/
Just finished SMT1 for the first time and now starting up 2. Playing through older games really makes you appreciate all the little things we normally take for granted in modern titles.
>>186839632
There two majorly annoying ones
The blue nail polish Hallelujah poster (easily the worst loves attention whoring) she toned the attention whoring down since she got backlash for Hallelujah posting, the last picture she uploaded was her showing off her Chironnupu. She always has the same blue nail polish in all her pictures for attention whoring purposes.
The mobile poster Nanashi fujo who loves muh multiverse timeline shitttery and will writte walls of text if you disagree with her bullshit theories. She tried to enforce a theory that DDS II was a sequel to SMT II.
>>186841038
Sorry, I just wanted to make that joke, I won't mention Persona again.
Please, don't make me go back to that shit hole!
>>186841183
Nice. I may be in the minority but I actually like SMTI over SMTII, which is weird as normally I'm a huge cyberpunkfag and SMTII is cyberpunk heaven. Still, both are excellent games, hope you enjoy SMTII.
>>186841270
Don't ever post that shit again, motherfucker.It's alright, I don't mind Persona, to be honest. /pg/ is a real shithole, though.Can't wait for PQ2
I would rather have those /smtg/ wannabe from that megaten leddit freely roaming here than /v/ermins and tumblr garbage.
>>186841602
>I may be in the minority but I actually like SMTI over SMTII
I certainly liked playing SMT 1 over 2. Other than fusion and story i felt SMT 2 was an overall inferior game.
>>186841849
Dude, I find it hard to imagine most people here and on /vg/ in general don't browse /v/.
>>186810540
>implying he wouldnt make a much better protag
>>186842134/smtg/ is the only reason I even come to 4chan nowadays.
>>186842134
I used to but i kind of got bored with it.
I only visit here and hgg.
>>186841602
>>186842042
SMT 1 did have some really memorable moments. Which helped me somewhat overlook things like not being able to tell how good weapons or armor are until after you purchase them. That's what external references are for I guess.
>>186842134
It's a shit board. I only rarely browse it.
>>186844198
I do when I'm really fucking bored. Or if I feel like trying to talk to strangers about the old games I'm playing that none of them care about.
>>186842961
Same.
>>186842134
I dont follow newly released games or care about consoles so I just browse /vg/ in the generals of games I actually keep playing or still have interest in to keep talking days on end about it.
>>186843307
>He doesn't become a futa
Disappointing
>>186845070
>Chaosbro exits the fusion chamber with double d's and a cute new frame
>He's both embarrassed and prideful of his new appearance due to the fusion affecting his mind
>Constantly trying to ride Hero
>He becomes jealous of Heroine and leaves the party out of spite
>>186838474
I'm trying to get a female friend into SMT. Would you mind what game you recommend for that?
>tfw no SMT gf
>>186845792
depends on how much does your gf knows about rpgs in general.
>>186842134
I really only come to /vg/ lately. Regular on another /vg/ thread, lurker on everything else - I used to go to /x/ but fuck me, is it bad lately. I know everyone says that, but it really is. Maybe I've just been catching it at a bad time.
>>186845792
SMT IV or Apocalypse.
>>186845792
Not him but how into games is she? IV is one of the easiest games after Medusa but the beginning to her can be a bit rough. Nocturne is okay but may require some outside help. Digital Devil Saga 1 and 2 are nice as they are a bit more like tradional jrogs with set party members and a more involved cast. If by some chance she enjoys first person dungeon crawlers then Soul Hackers is a good starting place.
>>186845867
>gf
>Implying
Like nothing her gaming experience is like Lego starwars on Xbox 360. She recently started playing games after visiting a game store with me and some friends. Now she's playing bioshock and some other normie garbage, but I wanna give her good taste.
>>186846128
This, she sounds shit at games so she needs the newest one. Or let her play Persona 5 kek
Be sure to come back to us heartbroken when she turns into a fujo
>>186846236
That's a bit pushy, anon.There's a bit of a leap between Bioshock and fucking Nocturne or any other Megaten. I guess maybe Persona 5 (but that still turned out to be a bit too weird and Japanese for my mates).
I mean, does she like Pokemon? I suppose that's slightly related.
>>186846236
Then just let her enjoy her normie shit for awhile. Start slow, something cute and easy like kirby, only time will let her get better. If you want to get her into turn based try a pokemon game. Pokemon actually takes a lot of inspiration from the SMT games like the collecting of party members and enemy weaknesses.
>>186846391
Kek. Yeah pokemon would be the way to go imo. Unless she's a fedora, then maybe you can win her over with "hey you can kill god!"
Does P4 golden fixed the item/skill usage like when you use attack/magic mirrors or tetra/makarakarn, it only applies to one person instead of whole party? It feels really inconvenient than P3
>>186846325
>>186846458
Yea I think I might just starting by getting her to play some Pokémon and then bust out some of the P5 or P3P. I know she likes Dante's Inferno so I definitely think there is some potential to get her into SMT. Thanks anons
>heartbroken
Don't worry already been there and done that with her
>>186846236
>Normie garbage
Having a girlfriend by default makes you a normie a fyi.
>>186846510
Also a good idea she is a fedora, so that may work. Honestly it's pretty fun I'm like an uber-lawfag so I hadn't thought of that
>>186846663
Maybe you could show her one of the animes? They're all shit though.
>>186846510
Honestly, I feel that even though most of /smtg/ feel like wizards compared to the Persona fanbase, Persona is still a pretty weird franchise as seen by normies. 5 sold well, but it's not Horizon Zero Dawn or any of those big AAA games they all flock to. Hell, even Bloodborne is viewed as nowhere near mainstream here.
>tfw you had to get into a rad but half-ded franchise
>tfw you couldn't just like normie shit like everyone else
>>186846903
If you were a normie you wouldn't be here fighting over dumb shit every day.
... I guess that might be a good thing, but we... we're not worthless, right guys? ... Guys?
>>186846775
Once again
>gf
>implying
>>186846859
I don't think so. Me and my friends have tried to get her to watch fantastic anime like cowboy bebop and she hasn't been into I doubt the devil survivor anime will do. If outran highschool host club couldn't do it.
>>186846775
What if it's a girl(boy)friend?
>>186847006
If she doesn't like anime, she's probably not going to like high school Persona life.
>>186847030
Being in a relationship alone is normie shit. Either die alone like the rest of us, or go away.
>>186847030
This is still achievable whilst not being a normie. But anything involving girlfriend (female) is extremely normie, like compulsively posting on instagram tier normie.
>people here unironically using the word normie
I want normalfags to leave.
>>186847314
I prefer normalfags too. The funny thing is the normalfag himself started it by talking about "normie games"
>>186846903
maybe the chaosfags are wizards. Us men of law are prime man matieral. Every time I proclaim my love for the lord girls throw themselves at me. Saying stuff like ~Ogoo law anon-kun pls have the lord save me from my thot ways~
*Tips pointy Messian hat
Who gives a fuck.
Post rare Kanekos.
>>186847465
>Illustration by Allen
>>186847314
>>186847376
I think normie came into use as it was shorter and sensitive idiots got upset over the use of the "fag" part even though here fag isn't even used a insult.
>>186847465
>asks fr rare kenekos
>posts art by someone who isn't keneko
What did he mean by this?
Also
>we will never have a patch for makaen x that restores everything
I have wanted it for fucking years. I would love a remake or anything.
>>186847804
>that restores everything
I didn't know it was missing anything. I played the Dreamcast version a few months back, and really enjoyed it. What was cut?
>>186847804
Jesus Christ I'll use normalfag next time. I didn't mean anything by it. Also I'm in fucking /smtg/ how the fuck could I be a normalfag
>>186830904
Raidou can turn people off if they couldn't get used to the action rpg/hack and slash/turn based mechanic thrown in one game. You just need to have the patience to get through both the mechanic and gameplay to actually enjoy the game, anon.
>>186847891
theres a ps2 version with more but idk
>>186847891
The game was heavily censored for it's Western release. The original game's story was heavy in it's use of Nazi themes and imagery, due to this the game's story was heavily altered and designs for some characters and other things were altered. I'm not one of those "a bikini costume was removed so the game is unplayable" types either, there was a lot of important aspects changed and it just genuinely sucks.
>>186847509
>>186847804How have I not ever noticed this, how embarrassing.I have some random Makai as well.
>tfw completed it twice
>tfw still haven't unlocked the ???? options on the main menu
>>186848003
I enjoyed Raidou 1. I mean, it's a bit rough around the edges, but I thought the setting and demons were great. Also I think the menus are gorgeous.
>>186847921Sauce?.
>>186848362
Sorry only have the crop. Try reverse image search
>>186848362
>>186848507Here, fuckers.
http://move.loveisover.me/foolfuuka/boards/i/image/1476/41/1476412444345.png
>>186847891
>>186848157
Here's some of the enemies altered in the US version, I believe they were either cut or had the swastikas on them removed and replaced with some other symbol. Been awhile since I played.
>>186848507
I did. No luck. Even tried the booru too.
>>186848575
Oops, forgot one.
I guess I'll dump some Maken X enemy art, I love Keneko's work on that game.
>>186848691
>>186848575
>>186848691
Anyone know what they replaced the swastika with? What's it mean?
>>186848789
Sorry it'll be slow, /vg/ has such a stupid time limit between images.
>>186848830
無 - nothing
>>186839748
>>186839521
but they're Apocalypsefags so no thanks
>>186848904
>>186848996
>>186848904
post the normal enemies first before the bosses dawg
>>186849110
>>186849179
I'm just posting them in the order they were in my folder.
>>186846604
Ma- is usually for whole party in persona. If the skill doesn't stated as Ma-(insert buff or repel) it only works on one target. Applies to items too.
>>186849257
https://youtu.be/z-kEnGzZ-OQ
has this battle theme ever been remixed outside the PS1 version?
>>186849356
>>186849392
well there's all the other ports
the PS1 and GBA versions are arguably the worst version of SMT1 when it comes to music, which is odd considering 2 and if... are improvements
>>186849471
>>186849579
>>186849678
>>186849792
Love this one, my second favorite design.
How can Doi orSoejimaeven top this?
>>186849965
has Soejima ever designed a demon?
>>186849917
>>186849965
Simple, they can't.
Doi is a good artist but I can't say I like his designs, they're not god awful but nowhere on the level of Keneko. Even as someone who has never played a persona game I do quite like Soejima, dude just needs to work on his necks a bit.
>>186850097
Maybe I'm wrong, I have never played a persona game, but doesn't he handle basically all the character design from P3 onwards? If so he designed the actual original personas so if those count as demons then he has done those.
>>186695440
>Open download
>379MB
this better be good and you better be able to fight god in the end or im kicking you in the nuts
>>186850097
No, just the Personas.
>>186830619
>>186831553
He is simply trying his best to revive his lord to his former glory
>>186850218
>>186850408
Now this one is my favorite design, though it is close.
>>186850524
And with this one I am done.
Hopefully someone enjoys these. Sorry to have posted them so late in the thread. I hope people see these, they're all great designs.
>>186850408
never seen this enemy before, in what area does this show up?
>>186850651
N-N-NO TH-THAT CAN'T BE ALL OF THEM RIGHT??!!
>>186850747
Hmm, appears I missed some of the bosses. I guess you're in luck, I'm happy to see someone likes the art.
I forget his name, been years since I played, but here is the US president in a mecha suit.
>>186850979
JUST
>>186851142
>>186851272
>>186851380
Sadly it seems I got all the really bizarre and cool designs out of the way, still, the humans are still interesting in their own right.
>>186851490
Whoops, I did miss one of enemies.
>>186850979
his name is Brown
TNX BTW
>>186851580
>>186851606
I'm happy to see someone enjoy the art as well. Keneko got to do some of the most bizarre designs for this game, I absolutely love it. I would love to replay the game but learning the extent that it was altered so heavily has kind of put me off. No gameplay changes but the story and imagery was pretty censored sadly.
>>186851716
>>186851831
Okay, real last one this time, the basically main character Kei.
I always loved her design, I hope someday she or just about anything from maken x is referenced again. If we ever get a true SMT crossover with all the protagonists as such I would love to see her there.
>>186852013
Is maken x good?
Which is better the ps2 or dreamcast version?
I want to be as cool as Maruo
>>186852340
It's a bit archaic but still worth playing. While I found the combat quite fun many have said they found it repetitive or found issues. The game shows it's age a bit but nothing terrible. Really what makes it worthwhile is just how bizarre the game is. Although it holds no true relation to SMT at all it is just as bizarre and interesting as them. The plot and cast is batshit insane and it's amazing
The ps2 version is better and is somewhat of a enhanced port, however I do not know the exact changes. Do be aware that the only English release was the Dreamcast version. Supposedly Atlas let Sega localize it and were displeased with the censorship they added when releasing it in the US. Unless you know Japanese you will need to play the neutered English release.
>>186850223
I think you will be pleased.
>>186734729
I hate that i'll never be as good as Jim and Praetarius
>>186694941
is it wrong for me to believe that smt 4 has a better soundtrack than persona 5?
>>186853570
Not at all. Persona 5s OST is overall a let down.
>>186853570
Not at all
>>186853608
>>186853625
is it also wrong for me to believe that smt 4 has the best mainline smt soundtrack?
>>186853686
Not in the least. Imo I'm out has the second best ost after imagine which is just remixed tracks compiled.
>>186853686
Yes.Not really. I prefer SJs, but SMT IV is my #2 or #3 favorite.
Just bought P3FES for PS2. What am I in for? It's gonna be my first Persona game.Also who is best girl
>>186853686
Nope. It's one of my favorites.
>>186846903
Well, I'm a wizard. I guess it doesn't help I play Etrian Odyssey too.
>>186853846
Take it to /pg/, punk.Aigis.Takaya is best boy.
>>186853686
Nah, however I actually can't say I love it as much as nocturne or strange journey. It has some fantastic songs, the ones that really stood out to me are the tokyo overworld, the isabeau battle, and the archangel battle themes, but the insanr rock and roll of nocturne and the oppresive and militaristic orchestra of strange journey easily beat out in my mind.
>>186853846
Never put Mitsuru on Healing/Support, because Marin Karin is bullshit.
That's what you can expect, having to wrestle with the AI that can screw you over sometimes.
Also there's randomized skill inheritance, which I get the feeling is going to blow when I go back to Nocturne when I get home.
>>186853846
mitsuru
What's the best way to grind for MAG in MT I?
I'm in the Sea of Flames, and down to 500 MAG. It fuckin' sucks, and I'm glad they dropped this stupid shit.
>>186853846
Emo teen shooting himself on a rooftop also Yukari
Whose going to let the demons out?
How long has Gideon been working on if...? 5 years? 6?
Wait lemme get this straight, Thor. A Pagan god, who was asked by YHVH who is GOD himself. Told Thor to wipe out everything in Tokyo? I thought Paganism was bad in Christian beliefs.
>>186855926
SMT isn't really good/versed on that stuff. Or they just don't care.
>>186855861
like over a decade
>>186855926
>Japanese
>caring about anything but Shinto and Buddha
I bet you think EVA has tons of secrets in all the religious shit is shows
>>186852340
dreamcast = better gameplay
PS2 = better music
>>186856009
either way, that sounds hardcore as hell and I can believe it. Pagan Gods and Christian Gods and other religious figures working together. That's what makes this series so badass.
new world when??
>>186856021
>>186855861
So do we have another translation of the script? If so we could just ask a some one to hack it into it.
MAKE A FUCKING NEW THREAD FIRST
oh new thread when guys