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Femdom Edition

>Trails of Cold Steel PC out now:

http://store.steampowered.com/app/538680/
https://www.gog.com/game/legend_of_heroes_trails_of_cold_steel_the

>A version of the old Zero no Kiseki fan translation was leaked:

https://mega.nz/#!LM4Hxb5J!0LrSUQF0yPjveDVPLSSn3Xq1i_tSwvqXHIU9Rzd3fiE

Don't forget to support the games and spoiler the spoilers!

>Latest news

- Trails of Cold Steel III's on track for Japanese release on September 28th of this year, confirmed PS4 exclusive. News/article translations: http://gematsu.com/tag/the-legend-of-heroes-trails-of-cold-steel-iii

- Short CS3 TV ad: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYaV_GNqyCo

- Class VII's back: https://imgur.com/a/Pw4Cp

- New CS III scans: http://imgur.com/a/YnoXU

- Cold Steel PC guest blogs (written by port programmer Durante, of DSFix fame):
http://xseedgames.tumblr.com/post/163454030210/loh-trails-of-cold-steel-pc-guest-blog-2-from
http://xseedgames.tumblr.com/post/163720373505/loh-trails-of-cold-steel-pc-guest-blog-3-from

- Ys Seven coming to PC, trailer/info: https://gematsu.com/2017/07/ys-seven-pc-first-details-trailer-screenshots

- Zwei II coming to PC via XSEED (Summer), preview stream: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gVOBPNrNgU

- Tokyo Xanadu out on Vita, improved EX+ version on PS4/PC scheduled for late 2017

- Cold Steel 2 confirmed for PC, release date pending
https://twitter.com/xseedgames/status/850395724223098880

>Older news

- Check out these Trails FC & SC updates, re: translation improvements (http://xseedgames.tumblr.com/post/159288714430/the-legend-of-heroes-trails-series-localization)

- Ys VIII: Lacrimosa of Dana brought by NISA. Please complain to Falcom, not XSEED (they're upset about it too). Good Japanese grammar is extremely recommended.

Pastebin (aka music): http://pastebin.com/G2mswYCt
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Fuck Cold Steel!
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daily reminder that every trails game is good
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Crossbell
>Need an IQ of at least 150 to understand everything
>Story is one of the best ever in vidya history
>Characters are very likeable and most people can relate to them
>Lloyd is the best protag when compared to any medium (be it literature, movies and others)
>Combat requires strategical thinking, even more complex than chess
>If Crossbell arc was made into a book the writers would get the noble prize
>Japanese people literally to retarded to understand the greatness of Crossbell so it sells like shit
CS
>Literally made for children and people who have an IQ lower than 50
>Story is straight up stolen from anime/ln #5134216
>Characters aren't interesting, have shitty backgrounds and you can't relate to them at all
>Most people can't go 2 steps without asking Rean for help
>Rean himself is ripped from a light novel just like the story
>Combat is brain-dead and doesn't require any thinking, just mashing delay and S-crafts
>Full of cliche anime tropes
>Appeals to the brain-dead retards in Japan so it sells very well
What went wrong?
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>First 3 posts is still going on about the freaking Arc war

Guys, calm your autism.
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>>186515308
This but unironically
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CS is the best purely because it isn't dated shit
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>>186515395
You should've been faster
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bright as the sun
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>>186515308
It's Persona's fault, Falcom saw how much money they could make if they pandered to the lowest common denominator so they did. Unfortunately it's working well for them.
>tfw we will never have Trails games as good Sky/Crossbell again
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Truly, she is the Trails in the Sky
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>>186515817
>sky
>good
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>>186515858
I want to hatsuu her hatsuu's
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>>186515887
It's better than Cold Shit and Cuckbell.
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>>186515858
MOMMY
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>>186516016
>csfags falseflagging as something that doesn't exist to distract from the shit that is CS
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>>186515817
Crossbell would be literally perfect, if not for the harem hijinks.
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>>186516016
lol
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>>186515858

Moo!
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>>186516125
>harem hijinks
There literally are none
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>>186516106
>Skyfags falseflagging as crossbellfag
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6PxUYv7bWW4
Calvard Chi-powered Soldats when?
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Is all the bickering part of the Phantasmal Blaze plan?
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Can you people please stop shitposting.
If there's nothing to talk about just let the thread die.
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>>186515858

Cowtsuu
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>>186516239
>n-no you
Skyfags don't even exist you retarded csfag, people only pretend to like sky as almost all of it is boring filler.
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All the trails games were a mistake.
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>>186516407
>csfags desperately trying to get people to stop pointing out how shit their game is
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>>186516374
Plot twist, the shitposter is actually Gilbert.
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Simple pastebin with some of the links for undub, guides, and Zero/Ao PC links.

https://pastebin.com/n2G4xL5s

If anyone thinks some other stuff should go here give me a warning.
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>>186516407
Shut up, csfag.
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shitposting in moderation, people. At this point it's being played out. Give it a rest.
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>>186516601
reply with it to the OP so people notice it when they make the next thread
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>>186516617
I don't think people are going to stop.
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>>186516617
>telling the truth about CS is now shitposting
If you don't want actual discussion fuck off
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>>186516617
>csfag damage controlling
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>>186516601
Good job anon.
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>>186516742
It amazes me that they can't actually believe that most people realise how shit CS and Sky is. CSfags baffle me
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>>186516736
There's no actual discussion going on here, fucking retard. If you don't like Trails games then fuck off.
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>>186515817
>Weebs took over Alus, now they put all their money into Persona while Mainline is left to rot on handhelds
>Weebs took over Falcom, now they're pumping Trails full of dumbed down game and anime tropes
Falcom is becoming the new Atlus, Miyazaki was right.
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>>186516872
Because retarded CSfags like you can't actually argue and instead resort to calling everyone shitposters or trying to shit on Crossbell
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Bellias did nothing wrong
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>>186517007
Nobody shits on crossbell to defend CS. What they do is call out the hypocrisy from idiots like you who somehow think your beloved crossbell is immune to the same issues you cry about in cold steel. Of course you could never acknowledge something like that because then your shitposting with be exposed. Again, fuck off
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>>186516927
>weebs
>when they're actual japanese living in japan
Can you please use the correct terms?
This is /fg/ not /v/.
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>>186517130
>look how shit CS is
>b-but if you take this badly translated scene from Crossbell out of context crossbell is slightly similar and therefore shit!!!
Fuck off CSshitter
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>>186517305
Nah, more like "Crossbell does literally everything you're crying about in Cold Steel, in fact it often does it much worse."

Stop being a hypocritical piece of shit
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>>186517386
>this is what CSshitters actually believe
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Pre-order her game and give her back her Crossbell.
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>>186517449
*puts crossbell on a really high shelf*
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>>186517449
>>186517578
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>186517449
I was going to until that teaser showed her sperging out, now I'll wait and see.
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>>186517386
go fuck yourself, csfag
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I had a femdom dream with Aurelia last night, was a good dream.
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I see the autist is having a temper tantrum.
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>>186515076
If possible add on the next thread >>186516601
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>>186517842
Just ignore them, CSfags get tired quickly
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NISA is gonna give away copies of Ys 8 on the Steam forums next month or so they said.
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>>186517850
ta luv
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>>186517850
Why are you implying that it's impossible
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Laxiass.
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Can someone give me a quarz good set up for Jusis in CS1?
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>>186517938
Any more details?
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>>186517986
I'm not? I'm just bringing attention to it by linking to the OP.
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>>186518257
I was mostly joking but
>If possible
implies that it's impossible or at least hard to do.
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>>186516215
Keep telling that to yourself.
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Millium is cute! CUTE!
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>>186518473
Lloyd doesn't even have a harem, it's all played for laughs and Elie is the only waifu.
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>>186518473
>CSshitters are literally too retarded to realise Crossbell doesn't have harem antics in it
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>>186518428
The lack of punctuation made it hard to get that.

Also i guess it can be left out for now if there's no space, but some of that stuff is going to have to go at some point anyway, like the Durante posts on CS, or making Sen III scans a single link instead of 2.
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>>186518123
Damn son
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>>186518596
My nigga.
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Reminder that Cold Steel is the most popular Trails in Japan and Rean is always at top 3 in every poll.
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>>186518818
Kill yourself, csfag
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What's so bad about Rean anyway?
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Looks like Crossbell shitters got mad again
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What's up with the stupid high level monster chests at the beginning of Zero?
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>>186518818
Who cares what Japan thinks, they have shit taste anyway.
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>>186519018
You're the ones shitting up this general most of the time. Just admit that CS is fucking shit.
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Daily reminder that I am going to impregnate Elie
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>>186518818
Doesn't Estelle always top the polls by quite a bit though?
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>>186519018
You're supposed to remember them and check them out later. You can potentially win the first time you find them, but it's really annoying.

They're also in Ao, but they're freaking impossible the first time you run into them.
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>>186519102
>Daily
At least put the effort in and change it to threadly.
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>>186519018
Just wait till you reach that level before opening it.
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>>186518932
Check the archive, we've already concluded how Rean is bad.
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>>186518596
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genuinely starting to think skyfriends don't actually exist lads
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>>186519097
At least shitpost properly.
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>>186519209
You don't know what level they are until you open it though.
It's a bit annoying when I start taking the fight seriously only to deal zero damage and get one shot by a group of creepy sheep on steroids.
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>>186519264
>Butt hurt CSfag pretending to be a Crossbellfag
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>>186519194
I missed a day this week so I thought I'd make up for it by posting 2 today and help distract us from arcwars with the loveliness of my wife.
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>>186519018
Come back later, I was able to do most of them pretty underleveled later on particularly once I got Randy and Lloyds combi craft.
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>>186519363
I'm pretty sure the chest itself tells you what level it is when you check on it. It won't automatically open if it's high level.
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>>186518596
Easily the worst character in the CS cast.

She's awful.
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>>186519382
nah, just never see them, most i ever see is someone meekly saying they enjoyed third, how mental is that?
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>>186519363
Um, no? When you're trying to open a high-level chest you should see something like "This chest is level X. Do you want to open it?"
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Man, Cassius was super disappointing. Once you get a clock down on him the fight is pretty much over.
I'm on nightmare too.
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Where the FUCK is my fishing spot?

This is bothering the shit out of me. Where did it go? Does it ever come back? Is there an explanation for its absence? Fuck. Shit.
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>>186519363
>You don't know what level they are until you open it though.
It warns you before hand and asks you if you want to open it and tells you the monsters levels.
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>>186519516
She can't be the worst when Rean exists.
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>>186519498
>>186519560
Oh shit you're right. I never even read it.
I feel a little better now but it's still annoying.
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>>186519621
They're all really shit, its hard for most people to distinguish between different levels of extreme shitiness.
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>>186519587
Was there ever a fishing spot there?
IIRC wasn't it on the beach around that area?
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>>186519587
If you're playing Ao, then it's not there anymore. The fishing spot for the final fish is going to be on the shallow sand bank where they did that small fishing competition in Zero, i'm not sure when it shows up, but Lakelord the III should be fishing on it when it shows up.
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Enough shitposting, post cute Junas!
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>>186515858
>tfw no alcoholic weeb thicc gf who is obsessed with kiseki
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>>186519587
It might disappear temporarily I have no idea but it definitely comes back if it does disappear. I caught the serpenthead pretty late in the game.
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>>186519796
Nevermind realized your playing Ao.
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>>186519561
You can debuff him? I ended spamming earth wall and grail sphere in that fight because nothing else worked on him so I thought he was immune.
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Who even needs Crossbell all i need is Daddy Osborne!
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>>186519561
>Debuffs working on Cassius

You outed yourself shitter. Unless you're playing the Evo version and they made it kid friendly there.
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>>186519561
>>186519896
Doesn't Quilang buff his speed back up or was that just attack?
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>>186519991
>Understands the true nature of all things
A level 5 threat indeed.
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>>186519952
Juna getting gangraped and becoming addicted to erebonian cock doujin when?
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>>186519896
>>186520035
You can't debuff him at all, see >>186519991
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>>186520261
Are there even any doujins of the series?
i don't think i've ever seen one.
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>>186520352
Of course there are.
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>>186520352
You've clearly never looked
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>>186520352
>not knowing shikei
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>>186519952
>>186520261
DELET

>>186520352
It's super easy to find, actually put some effort into it.
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>>186520449
>>186520502
>>186520503
>>186520580
Stop bullying me please.
I'm not interested in lewd things so of course i never looked.
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>>186520674
ebin, simbly eric
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>>186520674
What are you? A faggot?
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>>186519991
That's my mistake then as I fought him yesterday. Clock Up Ex then. The point is that once you push him back so that his lightning strike doesn't hit your whole group and you are fast enough that you can shit out enough Gaia Shields, there isn't much that he can do. At that point it's just a slow burn until the fight is over.

Heck, here's my post from yesterday:
>>186466484
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>>186520193
Can arios do that too? In cs Rean (or Laura) says that mastering a form gives you the ability to understand the true nature of things, so he should be able to.
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>>186520818
If you're not aware of pushing him to the far back the fight can get pretty annoying. I assume you used Orbal gear Tita to push him with her craft?
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>>186518818
Reminder trails isn't popular in Japan.

Kiseki is the blacksheep of Falcom and us Y's fags are just waiting for the day the plug gets pulled on your shitty game.
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>>186520719
I don't get it.
It's not like everyone thinks about sex every day you know.
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>>186520674
>stop bullying
>lewd
What an original comment
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>>186520352
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>>186520975
>You have to think about sex every day to look up doujins
Confirmed for literal faggot or normalfag.
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Something for the Ricotta posters.
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>>186520905
I believe the "understands the nature of all things" is some sort of title given to someone who master one of the forms. Cassius is extremely keen and has good instincts, but i doubt he actually is omnipotent tier like the title implies.

For all we know, it's just an awkward way to translate the title given.
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>>186521061
>gay guys don't use porn
???
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>>186520930
Nah, I use Kevin, Ries, Richard, and Renne. I used Richard's ogre slash to push him back.
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>>186521035
My post isn't supposed to make you really think.
I was just saying that i've never looked up doujins of the series and that's it.
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>>186521207
Did he happen to buff up and increase his speed and strength? Gets really annoying to keep up when he does it. I luckily didn't run into it until near his death.
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>>186521209
It was still a shitty meme comment
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>>186521317
Nah, he didn't use any buffs. I didn't even know he could until
>>186520035
mentioned it
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>>186521061
>you have to look up doujins even if you're not interested
I'm seriously just not that interested in it to try to find them.

>>186521320
Well then i'm sorry my post doesn't fit your standards, because it wasn't supposed to be a meme comment you autist.
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>>186521491
>lewd
>stop bullying
It was a shitty meme comment now fuck off
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>>186520818
>Beat Cassius
>Just Cassius
>Alone
Heh.

Good job, I guess.
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>>186521209
>this thing does not exist
>theres loads of this thing have you even looked
>well I'm sorry I don't only think about sex you autists
Hmmmm
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I'm not the only one who imaged an engine dying down when you use Anelace's leaf blitz, and she stops trembling near the end right?
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>>186521645
???
I never stated anywhere that it doesn't exist.
I was only asking if there are any doujins and saying that i've never seen one.
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>>186521582
This fight is brutal if you don't just break it.
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>>186521645
he was wrong, his comment really did make me think
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I can totally imagine a doujin titled "solid as the Rock of JUNO". It would be a good doujin.
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>>186521793
I just had my whole team spread out and kept earthshield up the entire time. Slow but effective.
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>>186521792
>get called out
>start backpeddling and watering down previous responses retroactively
Hmmmmmmmmm
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>>186521897
Um, you know NORMAL people like me don't always think about sex or care enough about them to look them up so please don't post that
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>>186521939
But it wasn't.
>Are there even any doujins of the series?
I'm asking if there are any.
>i don't think i've ever seen one.
I'm saying that i've never seen one.

What's so backpedaling about the post?
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You autists get hung up over the weidest shit.
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I bet you all are thinking about sex with Elie when you see this picture.
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>>186519018
They're aimed at NG+ runs but you can do them late into your first playthrough.
They're doable 10-15 levels lower with the right S-Craft/Arts usage. Give a huge boost if you clear them early.
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>>186522212
All I'm thinking are the weird fucking highlights in the middle of her thighs.
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>>186522212
Only I can have sex with Elie
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>>186521912
I hope they do a pass and balance the games and add just a few Evo updates.

Things like Burn would be cool, but not the crazy shit like S craft bonuses.
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>>186522148
>deliberately deny implications
>point by points
Hmmmm, very autistic if I may say so myself
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>>186522212
>posting lewd pictures of your wife
It's like you're asking her to get gangbanged.
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>>186522417
Not his wife
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>>186522212

Ellie is reserved for Ernest's dick. As he has been grooming her for the last 20 years.
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>>186521117
I suppose that the whole "understands the nature of all things" is related to the "unity of purpose" concept that Zin spoke of. Why I'm not sure about, though, it's whether you need some form of enlightenment to become a divine blade or it's just Cassius being Cassius.
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>>186522231
Those 11k HP Golems are fucking bullshit no matter what level you are at. Everything else is pretty easy even under leveled.
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>>186522417
NTR is the thinking man's fetish.
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>>186522494
Nice try Ernest
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>>186522416
I seriously wasn't trying to imply that no doujins exist.
If i was then i would've said
>implying that doujins exist

If you think that's autistic then fine. I'll give up.
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>>186520905
I don't think so. Cassisus is a bullshit character.
>Arios levels of fighting prowess
>Osbourne levels of keikaku doori
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>>186522623
>strawmanning this blatantly
Hmmm, I do love a good pretending to be retarded
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>>186522623
dumb anon
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>>186522624
Sky in general is full of bullshit characters as its a bullshit game
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>>186522624
I can't deny that. He outsmarted both an Anguis and the erebonian intelligence division. S class indeed.
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>>186522748
>>186522783
But i actually was serious.
But since you're not going to accept anything i say then fine.
I'm dumb and i was wrong.
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>>186523094
Did you take a photo of a screen
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>>186523135
>admitting to being too stupid to search before questioning whether a popular japanese series has doujins
Love when a pretending to be retarded turns out to be an actual retard
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>>186522561
The ones in the tower? That's the easiest one though. Just use AGL buffs, and you'll shit on them completely.
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>>186523210
I was bored and i'd rather ask here if only to just increase the post count.
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>>186523140
its the vita version not emulated
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>>186523404
Does the vita not have a screenshot function
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>>186523135
You do realize there was nothing but false flagging at the start of the thread right? Why are you responding every time?
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>>186523094
Do the Trails games use a lot of kanji?
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>>186523378
>bored as an excuse
>increasing post count
>too lazy to google
You sound a bit underaged
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>>186523486
What the fuck are you on about
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>>186523486
>I was bored
>if only to just increase the post count

>>186523557
Okay. It's not like i want to improve your opinion of me anyway so here's your final (You).
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>>186523474
It does have it
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Hope the guy who thinks doujins are for sex crazed madmen has gone.
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>>186523615
Are you implying that those CSfags and Crossbellfags shitposting aren't ironic?
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>>186523615
The guy keeps responding to him despite thinking he's retarded, continuing this stupid charade, so he's either just autistic, or false flagging to keep the guy replying since he won't stop either, so i'd rather both sides shut the fuck up.
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>>186523804
This general is full of fags like him
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>>186523898
Gay people read doujins too you know.
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>>186523804
He's literally just 2 posts above you.
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>>186523850
Can you repeat this in english

>>186523815
>anyone who disagrees with me is ironic
Fuck off CSshitter
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>>186523815
Go fuck yourself, damage controlling csfag
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>>186523964
Bit scared to look up, hope he's gone now
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>>186524013
Grow a brain and read it again.
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>>186524104
Have you tried writing in actual, coherent english?
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>>186524069
Are you asking for him to reply to you or what
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>>186522561
No, the ones on a cliff near a bridge.
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>>186524310
Meant for
>>186523353

I can't 4chan.

There are only 2, the tower ones are a joke.
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>>186524234
Bit scared he's still here
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Daily reminder that having a couple of typos in the translation is still better than a perfect translation with forced english dub
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>>186524658
>couple of typos
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>>186524658
Xseed shills will tear you apart for this
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>>186524658
>couple of typos

Yeah right https://curiouscat.me/BlackDragonHunt/post/92563721
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>>186524757
This isn't todays shitposting topic, please keep up
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>>186524757
Doesnt change the fact NISA and Aksys >>>> Xseed
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>>186524794
>statue of her boobs → a bust of herself. Somehow "bust" (a sculpture of her head and shoulders) ended up as "boobs" when it's right there in the CG.

Holy shit
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>>186524794
I will never not be mad about Esty Dee
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>>186524658
>perfect translation
Playing Cold Steel with the Japanese audio and English text makes it obvious that creative liberties have been taken.
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>>186524794
How can they even get away with this shit?
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>From Arc false flagging, to i don't look at porn, to Company shilling

You are doing this on purpose aren't you?
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Here's the true redpill.

It should be spelled Michey. Both Michelam and Michey are spelled out in the background art of Zero/Ao.
The Nips merely pronounce it as Mishy.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKX4-0VH45s
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>>186525194
Why are you so sure it was false flagging? This place clearly has its fair share of autists.
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>>186525115
>Machias says nothing in Jap dub
>English translation says "What the hell?"
It's always like this with Jap dubs and Eng subs. FFXIII was even worse.
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>>186525296
Anon, the "wonderland" entrance was also spelled "wanderland" in Ao. Don't take their name localization that seriously.
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>>186525194
yes
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>>186524658
I have no problem editing in my head as I read.
Typos and grammatical errors can be understood.

What I can't do is fix liberal translations or mistranslations in my head.
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I don't think I'll get used to how Joshua looks in Zero/Ao after Sky.
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>>186525382
I just don't want to believe people are this autistic. I want to have a little bit of hope.

>>186525442
Actually my mistake, i meant in Zero.
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>>186525587
I couldn't get used to how he sounds, i would rather pass a team rush if i get it on a joshua turn.
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>>186525382
Not denying that but when the topic stops another topic shows up to replace it and then the first topic is suddenly forgotten so it does look suspicious.
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>>186525604
Its easier to just accept that at the very least a vocal minority of these autists exist and try to derive some enjoyment from watching their slapfights. Just remember, you'll never be as bad as an arc war shitposter or the people that deny any criticism of a game.

>>186525701
At the start of this thread it looked like the CS people got bored before the Crossbell people and then the topic just shifted
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I want sharon to dominate me
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Laura's dad said Osborne was one of the greatest men of the generation.
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>>186526707
Without knowing about all the nasty shit he does behind the scenes, most people would assume he's a great person.
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>>186526707
>amoral genocidal imperialist erebonians in thinking neo-hitler is great shocker
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>>186524658
Who needs typos when you can just do it incorrectly in the first place.
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>>186526707
He's right though.
Osborne did literally nothing wrong and only wanted the best for Erebonia.
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>>186526931
Osborne was working with ouroboros, which is the cause of all of zemuria's problems
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Is angelica's dream team, with her, alfin, elise and towa (and fie on the bench) the weakest team you can put together in CS2? even though you can set them up to kick ass anyway
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>>186522212
Now, now... let's take things one step at a time. I first need to secure my engagement with her and make sure her grandfather is out of the picture once I'm in office. Then we can think about copulation.
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>>186527267
>implying the secret twist won't be Ouroboros were right all along and the septian church is the real villain
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>>186527454
Stop posting about things that will never happen Ernest
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>>186527469
The twist is that both the church and ouroboros are all lead by the same person whose goal is to destroy all the sept terrions.
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>>186527891
>>186527469
If they do either of these I will be mad
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>>186527469
The main object is probably going to be something overly idealistic, like leading humanity to the "right path" or some shit like that. I get the impression that the grandmaster thinks a little too highly of herself, considering she felt it was fine to take the blame for what transpired during the events of Weissman's plan, like it was going to change anything.

Plus, they don't care for the way things are handled so long are there are results. That's not the sign of a good organization.
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Calvard when?
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http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=246280538&postcount=2356
Reminder that NISA is shit and you should not support them.
Buy Ys VII on PC instead to support XSEED.
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>>186528720
It feels like most of these are not that big, but it keep adding up and it becomes a huge problem. Some of the translation choices feel like they were made by someone with little to no knowledge of proper english though, like "Obtained items +" or maybe they thought people are too retarded to understand what item droprate is.
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>>186528085
I'm thinking something to do with either creating a new better world through power over all the elements or freeing aidios/some other god to guide humanity.
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Seig x Zeo
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These guys are pretty tough.
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>>186528720
>Ys VII on PC without japanese voices

Not even worth pirating
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>>186529217
They probably have the most broken Craft in existence against players, considering it removes your DEF completely.
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>>186529756
Christ, really? That combined with their STR buff and full-heal revive is a bit more than some street punks should have.
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>>186530184
You get to use them in the 3rd for a segment, and you see how their craft works, and yeah, the stare that lowers your DEF completely removes it.
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>>186530184
Also got a pseudo s-craft that is highly likely to one hit kill.
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>>186530295
Huh, that's pretty overpowered, but I'll wait in anticipation.
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>>186523493
Yes. A fuck ton on kanji.
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>>186526895
? What's wrong with this? I assume it's quoting her about first seeing Adol
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>>186530712
Her name.
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>>186530295
>uses earth wall/recuria

Pfft, punks and their gimmicks.
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>>186530840
didn't even mention acessories that negate stat down, because they are usually not worth it.
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>>186528720
Looks like importing the game twice was really the right choice
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>There were people who were planning on buying NISA's shitty game in the first place
literally why
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>Olivier has a younger brother who is crown prince
Do they ever explain why Olivier isn't next in line to the throne? Is he a bastard child or something?
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>>186531557
Yes, play the games
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>>186531512
Cause Falcom has earned my loyalty through great games at least.
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>>186531557
He is a bastard child, if they havent made that explicit yet they will soon.
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>>186531652
I figured that was the case as it fits his character and I'm pretty sure they hinted at it in one of the Sky games
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>>186531716
Its explicitly stated in one of the sky games.
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>>186531557
Yeah he's a bastard.
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>>186525587
It angers up the blood that post-Sky trilogy artists keep fucking up his hair color and trying to make it purple.
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>>186530712
As >>186530763 said, her surname wrong.

>>186531213
Are you me?
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>>186531652
I also thought it was explicitly stated, but I lack the proof and don't feel like searching for it. Anyway, I really want to know what's up with Emperor Eugent. It seemed like he realized Olivier is trying to fight Osbourne but still backs Osbourne, and he was oddly silent during the Infernal Palace event. Even then, he doesn't seem like the douchey type to just sleep around with commoners cause he could like Ialways assumed was the case with Duke Alberea and Jusis's mom
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>>186527891
That's the twist from Tales of Symphonia right?
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>>186531959
Purple hair aside, that artstyle simply doesn't look as appealing as the originals. His hair doesn't look right either.
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>>186531716
They do explain that in one of them.
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>>186532028
Its explicitly stated in SC.

Emperor is hardly going to back an illegitimate bastard as his successor.
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>>186531959
His hair was always purple-tinted black. It's just desaturated in his dialogue sprites in Sky for some reason.
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>>186532227
More like the twist of 80% of the JRPGs.
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>>186532028
Fucking women on the side seems to be a pretty common thing that Erebonian noble males do.
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>>186532363
Its dark hair with the purple tint thats common in a lot of anime dark hair to give it some depth. The post-sky sprites make it outright dark purple. Its desaturated because its not meant to look purple.
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>>186527469

That would be such a boring cliché way to end the series.
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>>186527891
>whose goal is to destroy all the sept terrions.
Stupid. Find a better motivation because this one is straight garbage
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>>186533661
Okay then. The grandmaster is the one pulling all the strings and is intentionally causing conflict in zemuria to spur on advancement as they'll soon have to defend themselves from foreign invaders.
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>>186524658
>perfect translation
Perfect translations don't exist.
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>>186527891
Nah, the GM is the Moon Princess and Aidios' sister.
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>>186533883
Its fantasy interwar period not generic ancient evil awakens sci-fi
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>>186528720
>2) They translated "zoom" (as in the camera function) as "scaling". This is the result Google Translate gives.
>This is the result Google Translate gives.
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>>186533995
Foreign invaders as in people from a different continent. Not space/dimensional aliens.
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>>186534136
>area with ocean going container ships, aircraft, railways, motor vehicles, the beginnings of the internet and widespread spy networks isn't going to notice an aggressive foreign power that completely outclasses them
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>>186533883
That actually makes a lot of sense, if we stretch the definition of a foreign invader. For the Grandmaster to act all chaotic good on a world scale, while disregarding the lives of few for the sake of the lives of many, it would require a hell of an adversary looming in the distance. I think I remember reading a crack theory about the goddess being a fake identity of something sinister.
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>>186534725
If she has the means of knowing about such a threat, wouldn't it make more sense to drop hints about it? I mean, Ouroboros made a freaking deal with the Pope to not enter Crossbell surely they'd heed warning.
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>>186534725
In order for it to make any sense it would have to be some ancient Zemurian relic but thats flat out Ancient Evil awakens and would be a cop out. The conflict being kickstarted by the society isn't really fueling the orbal revolution either.
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>>186533883
>>186533995
>>186534136
Well there is all the Gehenna stuff.
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Why do we need some massive twist about Ouroboros actually being good, theres plenty of possible reasons for them to want to do these things without revealing they were the good guys all along.
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>>186535473
It's just people assuming, not really wishing for it.
But expecting some sort of twist on their motives makes sense, since the series delivers pretty nicely on twists, and we don't really have any idea of what their intentions are, and their organization structure is way too lenient on Enfocers, and we have no idea about Anguis.
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>>186535473
i don't mind that much ouroboros being good but i don't want the church is actually evil meme
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>>186535627
>>186535473
I think at this point their motivations are guaranteed to be good in SOME way, even if that doesn't make them "good guys" per se. Consider the fact that st. Sandlot is involved with them. Why would a historical figure like her who is widely loved join them if there wasn't some good motivation involved?

They'll still be the bad guys, but they HAVE to believe they're doing the right thing somehow
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>>186533883
Isn't that kotor? I was gonna say that it wouldn't work on kiseki, but actually, it does make sense, I mean, ouroboros involvement forced Zemuria to start developing new technologies to match their prowess. Still, I don't really expect that to happen.
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>>186535892
I suspect it will be something like the Azure Tree where it's all "sure you're acting for what you think is best for humanity, but what about free will, human spirit, etc. TIME TO CLIMB THAT BARRIER"
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>>186535627
I hope we get to see Arianrhod without her armor.
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>>186535929
Its a really common generic sci fi and fantasy plot, its played out far too many times in the Star Wars EU.

>but actually, it does make sense, I mean, ouroboros involvement forced Zemuria to start developing new technologies
No, the orbal revolution was in full swing before ouroboros, the push for advancement mostly comes from the nations of Zemuria having standard geopolitics, capitalism and the Epstein foundation. It 'makes sense' because it can apply to literally any villainous group in a sci-fi/fantasy setting
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>The first time the grandmaster speaks directly to our JRPG heroes
How epic will it be?
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>>186536310
I'm expect to be able to grasp their personality, or at least how their mentality works from it.
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>>186536310
The real question is which characters will be there?
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Who else is going to stop browsing this general for at least a few months when Sen III comes out to avoid spoilers?
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>>186535627
Assuming is the right word since its just wild speculation.

Of course there'll be some sort of twist or explanation but going down the "actually they were good all along" is lazy writing and twists for the sake of twists. Just because they're mysterious and the leadership structure is good for the higher ups doesn't make it sensible to suddenly turn around and reveal they were good all along, anyone who's lower ranking than an enforcer is still treated like shit.

>>186535818
You know if they do ouroboros being good they'll do the evil church meme or the church was behind it all along.
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>>186536478
Kevin, Wazy, Gaius, not-yet-introduced-calvard-religious-guy will be the party.
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>>186536279
I know it's a cliche twist. Still, 3rd makes a point in showing ZCF's response to Ouroboros tech, so it's a valid possibility. I wouldn't like it, though, and I don't think it fits well with how ouroboros has been portrayed so far. I expect their goal to be more Aidios related.
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>>186536564
I'm probably going to spoil the shit out of it for myself, since i'm terrible at holding out my curiosity. I'm hoping someone tries to do a translation in the style of the spreadsheet as a sort of read along, for videos, so i can quench it.
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>>186536564
Me. Won't browse it until I've finished it.
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Remember guys. It only took CSII 2 years to get translated into English.
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>>186536564
I am out as soon as the trailer comes out
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>>186536773
That wasn't the entire ZCF though, that was Tita trying to form a connection to Renne, and her family helping her.

And even then, it doesn't even come close to what Ourobros has.
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One month until I get BTFO because my ship isn't going to happen.
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>>186537025
Completely different. Kiseki is in a golden age in the west right now. Games have been getting pumped out like crazy. I expect an announcement within 6 months of jap release
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>>186537154
Who is red jacket, Eugent, Cedric?
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>>186536773
They start one small program in response, if they were actually trying to encourage technological advancement we'd probably see them deliberately trying to leak the technological secrets they'd found instead of inspiring copycat designs, i.e. the orbal gear would be closer to patermater than the powerloader. They have enough to justify doing it but it'd be badly done and I'd be upset if they did.

>I expect their goal to be more Aidios related.
Me too and it would make a lot of sense. My money is on them trying to recollect the sept-terrions to do something relating to the ancient Zemurians since one of the reveals is inevitably going to be that Aidios is either an important ancient Zemurian passed down through legend or an Aureole style orbal AI.

My personal pet theory is that the ancient zemurians were space travellers who colonise the planet the games are set on with the Liber ark being one of the ships they used. Theres not a lot of evidence for it but I like it as a theory
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>>186537305
Patrick?
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>>186537475
Patrick's dad
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>>186537475
You're pretty cool for learning katakana, but it's actually Eugent.
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>>186537475

Royal family dress so probably a relative we haven't seen yet.
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>>186537739
Yup, if their actual goal was to inspire a mech program or better airships then we'd probably have heard about it in Star Door 14 but they made it pretty clear that they were just after the Aurole and it was just Weissman that wanted to unleash the autism wave.
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Well it's obvious that ouroboros wants the sept-terrions for SOME reason. It's also obvious that the church wants to keep them where they are. The question is what they want them for, and why such a ridiculously convoluted and destructive process is required for accessing them. On one hand, it's easy to believe ouroboros has something good in mind to justify the effort, but on the other hand it's clear that extreme precautions were taken to keep them where they are.

Remember, to just gain ONE of them, they had to plot a coup against the royal family of liberl, activate numerous ancient machines scattered across the country, and force a floating city back into the real world. There Erebonian Sept-terrions require an even more ridiculous effort, they had to put an entirely separate plot in motion in crossbell just to even begin their work in erebonia. The people who hid these things were not fucking around, and it certainly doesn't seem like they ever expected anyone to get them.
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>>186538703
I believe the stuff they did in Crossbell was to use mirage in order to connect with the sept-terrion in Erobonia, and awaken it, since Mirage's main power is to guide humanity and speak to every other sept-terrion right?
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>>186538703

With the plan for Erebonia wasn't the whole thing that went down in CSII rendered completely null and void? What was even the point of that whole war of the lions re-enactment?
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>>186538703
>and why such a ridiculously convoluted and destructive process is required for accessing them
Sky makes it pretty clear why its so absurdly difficult to get at least the Aureole, the ancient Zemurian's really didn't want the Liber Ark to be a problem ever again. It also makes it pretty clear that the sept-terrions and artefacts are equally absurdly powerful.

>It's also obvious that the church wants to keep them where they are
No, thats contrary to whats shown in the game, the church is shown to lock away powerful artefacts in the giant neutralisation chambers, they just take the sensible path of wanting to preserve the ancient safeguards to stop them rather than putting them in chambers vulnerable to attack. I always got Top Men vibes off the church's attitude to artefacts and the sept-terrions, wanting to keep them locked away safely instead of risking horrendous accidents like the North Ambria incident rather than some evil scheme.
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>>186539190
>No, thats contrary to whats shown in the game
What the fuck are you even talking about it goes against nothing in the games. The church wants to keep the sept-terrions where they are. The artifacts are a different issue entirely
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>>186539136
They haven't told us what the point was yet.
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>>186538703
Well, to be fair, to access the aureole they just needed the technology and access to the seals, everything else was to obtain those two things and divert Cassius atenttion. They just didn't want to reveal their goal, for some reason. It could be to avoid the church or some other party.
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>>186539136
We still don't know, i don't think it was for nothing. reenacting the war probably triggered something somewhere else, basically it's the start of the process to get the sept-terrion.
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>>186523493
Every terms like Bracers, Artifact, Septian Church etc use kanji. I don't think I've ever seen a katakana in Trails.
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Im not new to emulation, but Im not very up to date on the fan translation stuff.

Is the PSP version of Zero the only option, or will the PC version released in China/Japan get a patch?

If xseed does localize it would almost certainly be the PC version right? iirc the Vita versions will never happen because of a 3rd party.
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>>186539136
CSII's postgame dungeon only came into being because someone triggering the final dungeon and fucking up the trial system. Its highly likely that all of this shit had repercussions all over the country.
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>>186530558
>>186540414
oh. How much of it is voice acted? Just main story bits with the party, or is it more sporadic like Cold Steel?
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>>186537372
The Legend of Heroes II has astronauts that came from the space
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>>186540878
Sky = Battle grunts only
Zero = Same, but "hello" and "goodbye" is voiced
Ao = A little bit of the story is voiced, emphasis on "little".
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>>186540603
The finished patch for Zero is apparently getting a PC patch too, not sure about Ao's. Also yeah, the link for the Zero patch in the OP is the current one right now.
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>>186541269
Delete this
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>>186532012
This picture made her look like a floating head with blue tentacles.
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what does Lloyd say when he uses the motivation craft? it's ''MINNA something something IKUZO!''
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>>186541163
Suppose Ill just be patient then. The PSP version of Zero in the OP is what I loaded up briefly but its kinda hard to look at.

>>186541123
I thought the whole thing with the EVO versions was that they had more VA?
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>>186541269
Why do the Kiseki games have so little porn relatively?
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>>186541543
He thought you were asking about the normal versions. Evo versions of Zero and Ao have main segments fully voiced, aside from some minor parts of it.
Sky has sidequests, main quests and main story all voiced.
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>>186541543
>They had more VA
Well, yeah, can't have your games fully voiced if you don't bring in more VAs for previously unvoiced characters.
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>>186541693
>Sky has sidequests, main quests and main story all voiced.
Holy shit, I never would have guessed they bothered with sidequests.
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>>186541619
Nobody scan them.
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>>186541540
Yeah it just means something like "Everyone let's go" I believe but my moon's not that good so don't take my word for it.
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So with Cold Steel's new quartz system do different orbment lines even matter anymore?
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>>186543012
>Single line
+More EP
- no ailment/status reduction stacking

>Multiple line
+ ailment/status reduction stacking
- Less EP
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>>186543012
It's just for show now
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>>186543012
New lines means you can add more status effect quartz in different ones, like seal, sleep, etc.
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>>186541540
>>186542946
"mina" refers to everybody, mina-san would be a more polite way to say it.
"ikuzo" is like "Lets go", "time for action", "aha, is this our chance?" ect.
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>>186543162
Ah so multiple lines is actually beneficial now for non-casters.
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>>186543164
Machias would be significantly less useful with Juggler if he less lines.
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>>186543012
They do. Branching lines can stack many status ailments and cheaper to upgrade.
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>>186543306
Being cheaper to upgrade was always a thing for different lines though.
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>>186543306
Alisa's lines piss me off because for some weird reason she has this stupid 6-1-1 line instead of 7-1 or 6-2.
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>>186539005
*that spoiler*
>control perception and knowledge allowed it to manipulate cause and effect.
>able to foresee what happened and would happen in the world
>capable of guiding humanity and communicating with the other six Sept-Terrion

and that remind me of something
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>>186543589
It couldn't manipulate cause and effect naturally at all. That was due to the alchemists messing with the core of what would become the new god. I think it could see a bit ahead, in order to be able to see what was the best course of action, until realizing she was being used by humanity and was inevitably aiding in their corruption, and so she killed herself. The other main power without alchemy fuckery was talking to other sept-terrions.
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>>186543162
Huh you know I actually like that. It sounds like it makes physical attackers much better than in previous games
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>>186543589
a certain organization leader
>foresaw to some extent what gang-member was going
>know the location of other sept-terrion
>aimed to guide "the souls of all"
>"craftsman"
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>>186543820
Magic damage still technically out damage physical damage on nightmare outside domination/s-craft memes but like every single worth while physical master quartz doesn't exist until the ass end of CS.
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>>186543820
That's why they removed combo craft.
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>>186543820
Yeah, psychical is not hot garbage this time, compared to arts, both are viable.
Some stuff does get a little ridiculous in terms of crafts though, like Jusis has a buff that gives + 25% STR/ATS/SPD with an XL sized AoE effect, Emma gets a craft that increases your DEF to 50% + arts reflect for everyone, and Rean has a bunch of useful physical crafts + the regular 25% STR buff for the party which also recovers CP by 10, so it actually costs 20 CP since it heals 10 when used.
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>Rean in chapter 2
Oh man the way he's making Jusis and Machias compromise is actually making me slightly like him as a character. Keep it up Rean.
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no new trailers?
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>>186543773
No. The original mirage could intervene with causality and perception. She wanted to lead humans properly and no tgo nuts like Aureole but apparently to do that it means you must feel the same emotions as humans. And that messes up the Septerrion's "heart" so Mirage didn't want to end up hurting people and chose to erase herself instead. The cult and co reproduced the original and managed to also add the power of intervening with space and time.
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>>186543589
>>186543931
mein gott
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>>186543994
More like they didn't want to make combo crafts for a cast of that size. Rean would have like 11 combo crafts at the end of the first game for example.
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>>186544415
>TFW they make Sen III's cast from Crossbell get to keep combo crafts from Zero/Ao
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>>186544157
Rean is a lovable dork for most of the game.
He deserves better than what the sequel gave him.
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>>186543931
Oh shit, forgot about this one
>MUH FREEWILL
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>>186544641
Rixia and Lloyd didn't keep theirs, which was a mistake.
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>>186544779
To be fair, they didn't have all of their crafts from Ao either, and Lloyd didn't have his meteor breaker. Maybe they were limited, or since it was a short segment, didn't want to go all out.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktB7fpuf69M

lovely song
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>>186544415
There's 11 regular party members including Rean right?

If they went the Ao way of making every party member have combi-crafts with one another that would be 55 combi-crafts in total.
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>>186544979
Too bad CS2 used the inferior SAV.
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>>186544979
I love that Falcom loves violins.
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>>186544961
I just realized that i implied Falcom was holding back in that part.
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>Rufus
This guy is voiced by Wesker right?
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>>186545190
The memes have become reality.
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>>186545268
Yeah, DC Douglas.
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>>186545095

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bsNzIsBeyjE

Ys Seven has plenty of violingasm too
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>>186544157
After the first day the Machias bullying starts.
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>>186545392
Dude has a voice like honey. I actually don't mind most of the voices I've heard so far in CS, but it's obvious he's a tier above the rest of the voice actors in the game.
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I wan to hug Laura's thighs and never let go
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I'll be severely disappointed if there's no couple teasing between Kurt and Juna after all the memes and fanarts.
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>>186545734
Well of course. He's got plenty of experience.
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>>186545848
I'm guessing it'll just be a running gag in the actual game and never amount to anything.
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>>186545848
Kurt is looking like the weakest character so far though. Id rather her get it on with Ash
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>>186545950
The game is not even out yet anon.
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>>186545950
His soul and sword aren't as one yet.
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>>186545991
>>186546057
I didnt mean combat wise, I meant character wise.
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>>186546126
I did mean it character wise. We have no way of knowing who's going to be garbage, and who isn't.
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>>186546126
Soul and sword applies to both.
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>>186545848
She's obviously into Ash
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Do people who played Zero and Ao know about Osbourne getting sniped in Cold Steel?
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>>186546832
Ao spoils everything about that. It spoils both CS1 and CS2 ending twists regarding osborne.
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>>186546832
After chapter 2 they mention Osborne gets shot, but they don't detail how that happened, and then they mention the civil war after even more shit happens.

By the end of it mentions that Osborne's body vanished.
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>>186546949
>>186546873
Shit really? I would have guessed that the CS I ending would get mentioned, but not the CS 2 ending.
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>>186546949
So, the destruction of Garelia Fortress happened at the end of Chapter 2?
That's a lot of shit happening. I'm still at the first day.
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>>186547017
It doesn't really specify the end twist though. It just says Osborne's body is gone. But it doesn't mention the fact that Rufus was an ironblood you also don't get to know what's actually going on in there correctly, only that they got a civil war going on.

Honestly, the Stuff related to Osborne wasn't that much of a twist, if you consider for how long he's been build up to.
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>>186547017
Ao literally tells you that crossbell gains independence in CS3 at the end. It spoilers everything in plain text . it doesn't even show, it tells.
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>>186547202
To be fair, the main twist of that one is how it's going to happen, not the fact it will happen. Or at least that's what i figure.
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>>186547168
Chapter 4.
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>>186546949
>>186547168
What, wasn't it chapter 4 when all shit went down? Chapter 2 was the Trade Conference.
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>>186547534
Huh, but he said Osborne gets shot at the end of Chapter 2. Osborne's speech in front of Valflame Castle was a response to the destruction of Garrelia, right?
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>>186547665
>>186547668
I fucked up, my bad.
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Chapter 2 Ao coincides with the prologue/garrelia attack.
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>>186546763
Ash is gonna end up with Musse after the latter gives up on Rean. Then Yuna ends up with Altina and Kurt with Alfin once the Vanders are back in business.
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Blueblanc out of fucking nowhere wtf. I thought that was him at the end of chapter 1. I feel sorry for people who didn't play Sky before CS.
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>>186547665
>The entire CS2 happens at the same time as Ao's final chapter
Why is this fillershit allowed
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>>186547832
Is there any reason to believe it won't be yet another harem for Rean to pick and choose from? Its not like original Class VII had any non-Rean pairings despite there being equal number of guys and girls.
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>>186547909
Allegedly 1 and 2 were supposed to be one huge game the size of what people speculate 3 is going to be. Then limitations with the VITA happened. This is why the first two games only had a year-release gap compared to Zero and Ao's two years and why 2 has so much reused assets. What they originally envisioned was probably going to be school antics for the first half then the civil war towards the last stretch. So Sen 2 was given fucktons of padding outside the plot bits.
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>>186547909
They probably didn't intend on CS1-2 to drag this much but they got too caught up on school hijinks.
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>>186548062
I actually doubt it was the vita limitation. CS1 alone is one of the longest Trails game and they had to cut Ymir out of it.
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CS starts pretty bad but it does get better by Celdic, I'm really enjoying it now.
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>>186547909
CS 1 & 2 were originally supposed to be the one game.

FC and SC were originally supposed to be one game too fyi.
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>>186548351
For me it was Bareahard where I started to get into it. Also started to like Jusis at that point.

I think ultimately the biggest problem was earning AP at school is just less interesting than earning DP in the police for or BP for a mercenary guild.
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>>186548480
But do they really have to put lots of padding in the second games? SC would still be long as fuck even without the shadow towers.
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>>186548351
I enjoy the field trips even if they all go according to keikaku and gameplay is relatively fun too. It's going back to school every time and only being able to follow student and teacher npcs/subplots to the end that ruins the mood and makes me feels restricted.
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>>186548705
>Not wanting to check up on the cutest couple every chapter
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>>186548480
YS 1&2 were originally going to be one game also.
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Say whatever you want, this was my favorite part of CS2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24h2BhC9k2Y
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>>186548829
Why doesn't Falcom just use some glue?
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>>186548812
I didn't say anything about Trista. In fact I like it since it's the only little variety you get outside of students and teachers.
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>>186548812
>the best romances in the CS games belong to side characters and NPCs

Friedel and Loggins still the best.
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>>186548812
They're too perfect for this world
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>>186548038
Wishful thinking, Juna and Kurt are arcus linked a lot and they are paired together in most screens, I don't know where Ash X Muße comes from.
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Remember when Trails was just a comfy slice-of-life story about adopted siblings going on an adventure together? good times
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>>186549086
Alan and Bridgette. Nothing bad better happen to him. With RC on the loose, I fear something's gonna go down. At minimum since he has a face, Alan is probably gonna be put into a coma like that kid in Celdic during 2 and seeing Bridgette praying for his recovery pushes Laura (and by extension Fie) to avenge him when they face off against Shirley.
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>>186549254
>I don't know where Ash X Muße comes from.
Pair the spares probably.
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>>186549262
You must be forgetting all the foreshadowing already present in the first game anon, it was never just a pair of siblings adventuring.
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>>186549280
I want to self insert as Bridgette and make sweet love to Alan until the sun rises
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>>186549262
No, since I've only played CS and Zero.
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Bridget and Vivi are the best Thors girls
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>>186548705
But that's the same with Trails in The Sky, no? Just that you return to the hub town before your next destination. I agree it doesn't feel as adventurous because you don't have to walk through the longass fields. I actually wish they let us walk as part of training or whatever.

>>186548829
I guess the split games gimmick is still better than releasing incomplete games then only update it through expensive DLCs or an updated re-release like many Bandai Namco anime games.
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>>186549086
It's always noble girl and commoner boy desu.
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>>186549382
t. started playing trails after xseed starting pumping out 2 games a year
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>>186549496
Not in the best under the radar NPC couple, Dorothee and Fidelio
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So Sen 3 is gonna potentially give us a Erebonian x Crossbellan couple. Calvard arc please give us Erebonian x Calvardan.
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>>186549496
Annabelle and Kenneth are both nobles.
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>>186549262
I started playing Trails in the Sky in the first place because it was recommended to me as a low key story without the usual power fantasies and saving the world stuff.

I still love Kiseki series but it's funny to think how much that has changed.
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New battle theme
https://youtu.be/C8sxwHOHdBE?t=81
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>>186549502
Anon, there was a lot going on already, it wasn't just about the two of them. I'm talking about FC specifically.
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>>186549490
But in Sky at first you leave x place behind and completely move to the new one. And crossbell has everything open so you can always follow a variety of npcs to the end And yeah it's that walking around and sense of adventure I miss. I think what adds to this is how in CS everyone is too obsessed with time. Oh look at this calendar, and you only have till afternoon to do this, remember we only have 2 days here, oh it's already the last day, your exam is tomorrow etc. It's not really comfy at all.
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>>186549891
Well there's no saving the world stuff in Trails. All the events are pretty small scaled, even the salt pale.
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>>186550306
World saving wont come probably until the final arc when the Orpheus Final Plan happens.
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>>186550306
Aureole had the potential to fuck everything up too though, and so did the cube in the 3rd. FC on it's own was nothing world ending.

I think any first game in an arc has nothing world ending tier happening, but more of a localized problem.
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>>186550139
Like I said, if you weren't a Trails fan before SC came out then you have no idea what you're talking about. Obviously there was more to it but WE DIDN'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT IT.
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>>186550140
I figured the writers note down the timestamp so it doesn't get confusing later on. They already have consistensy issues with 3rd and Zero (3rd mentioned Joshua and Estelle are already in Crossbell chasing after Renne, but Zero took place months after 3rd).

They fixed it in CS2 by having each chapter happened in 3 days but didn't separate each days.
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>>186550306
Ao literally messes with causality and time travel.
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>>186550825
I did like it before SC came out, i didn't play it on PSP release though, so i had to wait around a year and some months, so it wasn't that ungodly long, so i know what i'm talking about.

I'm not enough of a brainlet to let all of the foreshadowing get past me, they were building up to a lot of shit already. Just because they didn't explain like, it Loewe mentioning Hamel, Olivier's true position, hell, Cassius getting that freaking letter RIGHT IN THE FREAKING PROLOGUE.

Stop trying to pretend you're hot shit just because you think you're the only one who played prior to SC releasing.
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>>186551148
Hey dumbfuck. Try actually reading my posts for one minute instead of getting on your soapbox about HURRRR I'M SO SMEEERRRRT. Nobody's saying nothing was foreshadowed, for fucks' sake. I'm saying WE DIDN'T KNOW WHAT THE FUCK WAS HAPPENING. Do you comprehend?
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>>186549159
Seeing what happened in Ao play out in an Erebonian viewpoint is funny because a lot of them were fucking terrified of Crossbell, especially in Sen 2 when the Azure Tree appeared. Then we cut to Ao where Lechter's just like "Just as planned" in regards to Osbourne's "assassination" and Lloyd and the others looked nervous at the prospect.
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>>186549486
she is cute too
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>>186551256
The point you were trying to make at the start was that it was just an adventure between two siblings though, and that's not true at all, considering everything that happened in FC. Just because you don't want to consider foreshadowing because "oh we didn't know what i meant yet" doesn't make it any less valid. Plus, even without that, there was a lot of subplots that didn't involve Joshua and Estelle too.
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I WANT TO FUCK AIDIOS!!!
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>>186551332
Wait, Lechter thought it was still fine in Ao? I thought he expressed surprise at the fact that Osborne was still alive, saying even he didn't expect him to pull something like that.
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>>186550825
Oh man now I'm reminded of how painful the wait between the PSP FC release and the PC SC release was.
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>>186551468
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>>186551418
Okay, now you're really making it obvious you never played Trails before xseed started pumping them out fast. You are completely incapable of putting yourself in the shoes of a person who only played and finished Sky FC. Move along.
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>>186551332
You'd be fucking terrified if they destroyed your most technologically advanced military base in just one hit.
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>>186551416
Emily and Theresa are the best yuri couple.
Angelica is shit.
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>>186551535
That wait was the most ungodly thing ever happened to me, like what the fuck man.
Entire CF shitting itself also coming back to me, too.
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>>186551584
>Let me pretend i'm right just because i'm incapable of understanding the point the other person is trying to make

I gain nothing from lying, i'm just saying that you're narrowing down on the whole "it was just two sibling having an adventure", when it was already more than that, stop being retarded.
But if you want to act dismissive since you don't have an actual argument to back yourself up, that's fine.
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>>186551570
Kevin, you know that she watches you taking a bath. Can't win against the D, not even Aidios herself.
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>>186551743
I already told you my argument. If you ONLY PLAYED FC, and have not been spoiled on the other games, then YES that is basically what Trails is to you. You know that there may be more going on, but you know nothing about it. You would understand what that's like if you had been there, but you weren't.
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>>186551524
I think he means how he wasn't worried at all cause this is Osbourne we're talking about so he must clearly have a plan.
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>>186551698
The delays were too much, man. It took like 4.5 years total for SC to finally come out? That completely sucked.

And yes, fuck the CF guy. I'm still mad that his stupid suicidal drama happened. We would have gotten the games earlier if not for him.
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Is VIII as comfy as I?
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>>186551698
I consider myself lucky to not to have waited all that much for the SC release, i found out about it seeing it pop up on steam one day, and got curious before finding it fairly charming, only to find out the sequel wasn't even out yet.

>>186551824
I had played only FC, and didn't spoil myself anon. I just see things in a bigger picture, since the game was trying to go for that. Sure the main focus is Estelle and Joshua, and it was their adventure for the most part, but the involvement of everyone else made it less so as well is what i'm getting at. Basically, just don't narrow it down too hard.
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>>186551621
Yeah but I remember Noel ranting to Lloyd in Fort Knox about how she's siding with Dieter because Erebonia remains a threat to them. Even when they defanged and with the help of Ouro, brought the empire to civil war at that point.
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>>186551997
You make me cringe so hard with your "hurr durr i are so smerrrt" crap. Embarrassing.
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>>186552064
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>>186551964
You can fisk but you can't bump.
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>>186552079
Moving the goalpost along doesn't make you right either anon, stop being so jaded. Either way, let's just leave it it was either adventure, but with clearly more going on if you pay attention.
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>>186552221
Go fuck yourself
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>>186552252
But you see anon, thy goalposting is making thine argument less valued, quite so, please do understand the meaning behind my words, sir.
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>>186551698
>>186551924
CF?
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>>186552492
Carpe Fulgur. They're the reason SC's localization went to shit.
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>>186552615
I had only heard about all the drama after checking /v/ i think. Did the dude really cause a ruckus by saying he wanted to kill himself? Why the fuck didn't they just fire the guy once he started being a little bitch?
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誰かを愛したくて
誰かに愛されたくて
飢えながら
夜明けを待っている
夢見て憧れたって
両手を差し出したって
答えなんか
どこにも落ちてはしないさ
ずっと追いかけて彷徨って
いっそう捨ててしまいたいのさ
飢えるのは 温もりだけ
つかの間でも
走り出す 何処へ向かうの
突き進むしかないのなら
行く先に何があっても
真っ直ぐに進め軌跡が
答えに
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>>186552723
pretty sure CF is only like 2 guys. Who is gonna fire him, the other guy?
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>>186552723
You can't fire the leader.
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>>186552841
>>186552879
That would make things complicated yeah. They did end up getting other people to help later right?
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>>186553001
I'm pretty sure they just quit. It's clearly too big for them.
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>know too much Japanese to enjoy the Cold Steel undubs
>don't know enough Japanese to enjoy the Crossbell games
A hell of my own making
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>>186552793
>crawling in my skin [in japanese]
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>>186544961

They were treated like all the other non Class 7 guest characters. Three crafts, one s craft.
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>>186553115
Just get the voice patch?
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>>186552793
He truly is Punished Rean.
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>>186552793
The first two lines cracked me up
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>>186549594
Now that is what I call a man of taste.
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>Corrupting Rosine
Now we are talking
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>>186553115
Start/keep studying properly. Only you can pull yourself out of that hell.
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>>186553527
The actual best Thor girl.
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>>186553527
The yaoi hands is even more obvious in HD. Glad they fixed it in TX.
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>>186553527
Corrupt your face with my fist.
Rosine is pure
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>>186554596
>CS ran out of nu anime to copy so now they're copying old Falcom games
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>>186554596
READY FOR PLAYABLE GUELD?
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>>186554792
Gueld is Schera. Olivier's offer at the end of 3rd is related to that.
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>>186549262
I'm pretty sure you stopped a coup d'etat in FC and fought a giant ancient robot, all with the looming threat of Erebonia in the background.
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>>186515858
T H I C C
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Wakey wakey.
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>>186557156
i literally took this screenshot like 1 min ago...
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>>186553527
Corrupting the squire for the 2nd Dominion.

Well that's interesting.
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Best
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>>186558330
*dumBEST
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>>186558330
Contributing.
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>>186559342
Rude.
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>>186559342
delete this right now
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I love Fie's midriff
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I have to say, I started out really disliking the game but Chapter is turning me around on these characters, Rean/Jusis/(and less so but still) Machias. Fie is still obviously a mystery girl with a dark past and Emma is... pretty fucking boring actually. She can heal and has some magic cat or some shit.

Also loving the politics. Love me some Trails politics.
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>>186560651
Is really that much of a big deal being able to use magic without orbments? I mean, I don't see why she hides that unless erebonian style inquisition. But yeah, I just finished bareahard and the politics are the best part so far. Also the fact that everyone seems to know the things that will happen to class VII beforehand.
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>>186561132
>Is really that much of a big deal being able to use magic without orbments?
Yeah it is actually a pretty big deal.
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Is Alan Motherfucking Richard the strongest character in the Kiseki universe? I get like 6 turns before the enemy even gets one.
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>>186549941
2:00 to 2:05 saved an otherwise unremarkable battle theme, if that is the common battle theme.
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>>186561459
He's the fastest.
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Reading these threads I feel like Im missing out a lot for not playing the Crossbell games before Cold Steel
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>>186561220
There should have been a better way to handle it though. It's like they have a giant sign above her saying witch for the entire game but everyone is politely ignoring it. Also these paper-thin events don't help.
>here's a magic trick
>thank you for showing me bye
>thanks for watching bye
>rank up
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>>186562263
It felt pretty good playing through Ch.5 in CS knowing what actually happens in Ao. Also reading the Imperial Chronicle and realizing all the bullshit they type regarding Crossbell.
Hope a proper translation for Ao doesn't take too long so people can finally play them in order.
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Does this beast end up wanting Rean's dick?
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>>186562383
Emma was the only one I didn't really like at all in CS1, the whole secret witch thing was handled so poorly.
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>>186535818
>>186527469
It will be some real jrpg nonsense if the septian church turns out to be evil. They have to deal with constantly deal with some pretty much SCP tier bullshit to keep the world spinning.
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>>186562383
In fact, everyone IS politely ignoring it. They know something's up, but they're waiting for her to tell them on her own.
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>>186562918
Yeah I know how you're supposed to wait until you reach unlock tragic backstory level. But they made her way too obvious especially on the player's part and waiting an entire game and a half so the cat will explain instead is a bit too much.
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>>186563330
Sometimes Falcom doesn't hide things, they tell you who Yin is, if the voice acting doesnt give it away they just straight up tell you 5 minutes after.
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>>186562885
God I hope Aidos and the church isn't evil. But the way the series has slowly tipped from good anime tropes to shitty anime tropes over time, I can definitely see it being the big disappointing culmination.
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>>186549340
They were also introduced together.
In reality Ash will just be butt buddies with Discount Vander because optional harem rules all.
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>>186563546
And that means I have to like it? Or just because Crossbell did it too am I not allowed to complain about CS again?
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>>186561132
Her clan's magic is clearly beyond orbment tricks, so it's a big deal.
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I swear, if Vandyck doesn't wreck shit at some point I'm gonna riot.
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>>186564032
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>>186564332
>CSfag damage control
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>>186564417
So criticizing CS is now report worthy?
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>>186564332
You started it. There was literally no reason to mention anyone else when I was talking about Emma. Loewe, Yin and whoever else might have done whatever they wanted. I was only talking about not liking how they handled Emma but you csfags are literally incapable of accepting a single criticism.
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>>186564480
You'd look less stupid if there weren't an incredibly blatant follow-up shitpost immediately afterward.
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>>186564417
UNDERAGECOLDSTEELFAGSPOTTED
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>>186564575
>everything I don't like it's a shitpost
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>>186564504
1. I'm not that guy
2. It was a comment on Falcom, not on Crossbell, Sky, or CS.
3. I'm agreeing with you, its par for the course.
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Reminder not to say anything bad about Cold Steel or you'll be reported for trolling.
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>>186564259
Altina is for hug, not fug.
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>>186564480
Mentioning Crossbell in a negative light is
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I sometimes wonder if the autist actually thinks he's fooling anyone.
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>>186564831
Ok and that comment was pointless. If I don't like x then what is mentioning more cases where x happened going to achieve? If you don't agree with me and you liked instead then tell me why.
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>>186564831
Should've picked another Falcom example. Comparing Crossbell to CS will trigger the autists.
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>>186564964
He's just saying Falcom keeps doing that. It was pointless yes, but you don't need to get so upset over it.
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>>186565041
Apparently.
You can't agree with people citing other examples of it happening without people wanting to fling shit everywhere.
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>>186558330
Cute indeed.
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>>186565168
It doesn't contribute anything. Might as well tell me to never complain about anything cause Falcom just sucks at writing.
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>>186564862
Altina is for missionary.
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>>186565168
Why would he ever miss an opportunity to act like a pathetic bitch?
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>>186565292
>Someone agrees with your point even if he doesn't really add anything to the conversation.
>Fuck that guy, now let me not contribute anything by shitposting.
Pot calling the kettle black.
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>Ys Seven port will be released before Zwei II
JUST
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>>186565829
They need to get it out because who would ever go from Ys 8 to Ys VII?
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>>186563695
I can't wait for their bonding events.
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>>186566692
>pink haired bipolar
>green haired slut
>white haired deadpan
Why
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>>186561220
Nobody really cares that Kurt does it though. Just "oh, that's impressive."
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>>186566854
Why not?
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>>186566913
Can Kurt's magic summon a giant flaming castle of hell?
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>>186530763
>>186532012
>it's another case of dumb weebs thinking they translate better than professional translators
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>>186567108
Yeah, in the next game Adol should be called Adholu.
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>>186566692
>CS2 had student on teacher
>CS3 will have teacher on student
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https://twitter.com/Gu4n/status/898789402993930241
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>>186567108
Even if for some reason you think transliterations are good NISA's is still wrong cause イクルシア is Ikurushia which as you can see becomes Ic(u)lucia in the original.
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>>186568307
>from zero
Nice.
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>>186568390
I bet you think Aerith should be called Aeris too.
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>>186567108
Because we all know how good NISA is when it comes to preserving character names during localisation.
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>>186568758
We all know how good Falcom is at translating names and text too.
http://www.falcom.co.jp/licence/character/ys_e.html
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>>186568575
Anon stop ignoring the point. Not only they didn't use the original they didn't even transliterate properly i.e iKU instead of iKA. Just accept nisa has no idea what they are doing.
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>>186568926
Nothing wrong with all of those except the "Christine" at the beginning.
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>>186568758
To be fair Nisa targets the American market. And we all know our Burger brothers and sisters have the cultural sensitivity of a brick.

In any case I'm not expecting a Harvard University Press" level of effort and care.
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>>186568926
>text
>caring about baka gaijins who'll eat up anything
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>>186568926
>Hugo=Fukt
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>>186568926
I remember some anon said falcom used to have gaijin. Which is why VM online has good english. I wonder what happened to him.
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>>186569031
NISA is garbage, but
>Japanese attempts at romanization
lol no, that shit goes out the window when an English version comes out because those are the Japan-approved names for the rest of the world.
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>>186568575
I can at least understand how Aerith ended up as Aeris エアリス(Earisu) it was basically just the closest translation they could get and the 90's in general were a very messy time for English localization's.

>>186568926
Falcom's translations aren't even relevant to the discussion seeing as they do not translate any of their games themselves.
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>>186561459
Enemy:
>this isn't even my final form

Richard:
>I already killed you

Colonel Richard is cheat mode.
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>>186569258
>Japan-approved
Considering how many name and even story and character changes you see in localizations I highly doubt most japanese companies care about what we do. The localized official names are just approved in a sense that we all played the english version so we'll use them.
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>>186569192
Just as long as you can get those sweet sweet Jap voices you probably don't understand anyways.
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>>186569521
Hopefully he'll be part of the 75man roster in the final game.
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>>186569224
>Dalk=Fukt
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Meh, i was doing pretty well until his S-craft.
Kind of wish it was like Loewe with a reward if you beat him, a weapon or something.
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>>186569592
>no, the company is using their own IP wrong because i say so
ok faggot
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>>186569746
Agreed. Really disappointed with how they deal with "unbeatable" fight in CS.
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>>186569746
Fuck CS. Just because the fight is supposed to be unwinnable, doesn't mean I can't deplete bosses' HP to 0.
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>>186569838
So you didn't read anything I wrote.
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>>186569892
I did, and you're both full of shit and retarded.
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>>186569865
CS2 does it better.
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>>186569704
>implying it won't be a bunch of teenagers and old characters won't just fight behind the scenes to help them reach the final boss
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Just so you know this isn't XSEED & Friends general.
Thank you for your understanding, and Richard is not colonel anymore.
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>>186569970
I think most that people know this is the Falcom general.
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>>186569970
It is XSeed general, take your NISAshittery elsewhere.
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>>186569952
You are retarded cause you started this by generalizing instead of only talking about trails/ys so I told you that in general localization changes are abundant and japan more often than not doesn't care. For some reason you got mad and backpedaled to falcom.
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>>186570175
>started this
I only commented twice though, and once was to notify you of your retardation.
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>>186569970
Would you prefer another round of CS vs Crossbell?
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>>186569031
>muh Aeris
KYS, autistic cuck.
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>>186570248
Then maybe you should have payed more attention to where and why this conversation started.
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How do you pronounce Xseed
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>>186570454
Exxxshiiit.
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>>186570439
The hell is this obsession with Aeris and what does it have to do with my explanation.
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>>186570454
baby batter
Easy.
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>>186570316
Honestly, yes. At least those "debates" are just people pretending to like CS.
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>>186570528
You're being an autist over a name's correct spelling.
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>>186568926
Good thing that it's being localized by a company that knows better then, isn't it?
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>Just got to the part of cs1 where Millium was introduced.

My god. Fuck everything about this character.
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>>186570639
I never cared about "correct" spelling. I only commented to show the guy who defended NISA that their choice has no basis either way. He/you are obviously to autistic to understand that so you keep repeating muh Aeris.
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>>186570770
>hating the bunny
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>>186570806
I'm just saying you are the autist here. You're bitching about a name's translation. Go find a better battle. At least the parts where they forgot to capitalize are actual problems. This is not. It just makes you look like an autist looking for problems to complain about.
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>>186570770
Being voiced by Burch obviously doesn't help, but do the people here really have such a low tolerance for energetic characters?
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>>186570770
>Skyfag has shit tastes
Kill yourself.
>>186570975
It can be easily fixed by using the undub.
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>>186570975
It's even worse in Japanese.
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>>186570770
She's not that bad. I think her energy actually helps sometimes cause everyone else is so lukewarm in their interactions.
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>>186571112
>american shit voices better than anything

xshill pls
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>>186571112
It's not actually.
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>Door 15

I wasn't ready.
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>>186571112
>It's even worse in Japanese.
You're a big fat faggot. Millium VA is a very popular VA.
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>>186571296
It's still garbage.
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Guys it just hit me, what if all this time we were vastly overthinking everything and the real keys to the plot were dragons?
It's cliché and overdone as all hell, which is why it's being kept secret until the last second, but it IS still a subseries of a subseries of the Dragon Slayer series after all

Like why is Grandmaster Towa a cross-dimensional eternaloli? Dragon. Either some Fire Emblem shit or maybe she was forced into a human body for some reason, but, dragon as fuck
Great Power and Divergent Laws and all that shit? Dragons. McBurn is "mixed" with dragons, obviously
Arianrhod? You'd better fucking BELIEVE she's still alive because she turned into/always was a dragon

Oh and of course Aidios is a dragon too
It's kind of lame but would probably make everything make more sense if you think about it
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>>186570770
I honestly didn't find Millium annoying at all.
Don't get why people act as though it's nails on a blackboard. She just sounds overly enthusiastic.
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>>186571341
You're fucking garbage. She's a top-tier Japanese VA beloved by everyone in Japan.
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>This dog boss at the end of chapter 2 in CS

What the FUCK were they thinking. The attack where they double attack you is literally impossible to survive.
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>>186571492
>She's a top-tier Japanese VA beloved by everyone in Japan.

So what? She's still worse than Burch. I didn't think it was possible but here we are.
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>>186571487
It seems a lot of people can't handle highly energetic characters.
>>186571548
That's interesting, there's a twin dog boss in FC Chapter right now which might be the end of chapter battle.
>>186571492
Nice to see that not everyone here has bad taste.
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>>186571112
She's shit, but not worse.
>>186571296
>>186571492
>popular = good
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>>186571548
Just spam delay and ailments.
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>>186571548
They have like no status resist IIRC. Don't try to facetank them.
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>>186570770
Going to assume Millium is the white rabbit I just encountered at the end of chapter 2.

I can already tell I'm going to hate her based on her look and voice so far.
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>>186571439

Urghh... AiDiOs... yOU'VE rUINED eVERYTHING yET aGAIN..
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>>186571218
It would be my pleasure.
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>>186571439
I don't think Grandmaster would give humans a tool that can control her kind.
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>>186572075
Grandmaster is Seath.
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>>186571439
There was all that weird dragon in shit in that one "happiness stone" star door in the 3rd...
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Stop. I left FE behind, I don't want to hear about dicks and dragons being back again.
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>CS4
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>>186572205
Does every FE game still have a secret dragon pulling the strings? I haven't had an interest in the modern games.
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>>186572195
Yeah that kind of sparked the idea, because unless dragons are relevant somehow, what was even the point of all that?

>>186572019
>having taste this good in a thread this shitty
should be illegal

>>186572075
What if that was the idea, though? Like, weren't they given specific orders with how to use it?
And it's not like she would run any risk to herself if none of the Ouroboros members knew she herself was a dragon- on top of that, there doesn't seem to be much reason to believe all dragons don't hate each other from what we know, so maybe there's a big dragon war that's been going on in the background this whole time

>>186572205
I don't think it's that great of a series either, but I learned through experience that dragons are the laziest, most flexible plot devices to use when they're capable of the shit that FE dragons are

>>186572464
yes
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>>186571636
>>186571658
Why are dubfags so fucking retarded?
>>186571649
Sadly a lot of people in /v/ seem to have shit tastes nowadays. I bet none of the faggot hating on Millium ever heard of Non Non Biyori.
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>spent the past two days unsuccessfully trying to patch Evo voices into Zero no Kiseki English Patched
Kill me. I try to launch the game and the top left says Zero/Ao Patch 0.5.1 briefly, but then it perma black screens.
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>Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance (ファイアーエムブレム 蒼炎の軌跡 Faiā Emuburemu: Sōen no Kiseki
>Sōen no Kiseki
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>>186572652
>Playing one character from random CGDCT means anything
Seiyuufags are retarded. Also this is a video game board, I know 4chan is a weebsite but come on.
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>>186572652
>m-muh dubfags
>posts a cartoon aimed for pedophiles

Sure showed me.
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>>186572820
IT FITS
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>>186572820
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>>186572652
I'm not a dubfag though. I'm also not weeb enough to think everything Japanese is automatically good
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>>186573050
You're clearly a dubfag.
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>>186572820
>Trails of azure flames
Heh. Too bad it's not 碧 though.
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>>186572652
The voices directly tie into my enjoyment of a game, but they're not as important for the majority of people. I wouldn't say NNB is particularly well knowm either, but it is very relaxing.
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>>186573181
>said that Millium is shit but not as bad as Burch
How does that make me a dubfag, you fucking drone? I didn't even play the game with dub, just checked it on youtube.
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>>186573410
Sorry so many dubfags in this thread I confused you for one. You still have shit tastes.
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>>186548062
Zero and Ao also had one-year release gap (2010/2011)
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Rufus is the best. I want to marry him no homo.
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>>186572464
>>186572205
The plot of LITERALLY every Fire Emblem game is "So we have this conflict... and then suddenly an evil dragon popped out".
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>>186574687
Do people honestly play FE for the plot? Don't get my wrong I really like FE but I find it hard to believe anyone actually plays them and except anything except what you described.
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>>186574974
Outside of waifus/husbandos, no. I would argue that no one plays them for anything but waifus/husbandos, but the gameplay in Conquest was actually legit as hell, unlike the "just run to the end" shit you got in Awakening and Birthright.
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>>186574974
just 4

the rest are average SRPGs with unremarkable plots and the new ones waifu simulators
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This is the edgiest thing Joshua has said so far, people have really overblown the entire thing.
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>>186575273
People played older FEs for gamemplay and even story/characters a little too. But yeah this >>186575397 is basically the gist of it.
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>>186575610
It's going to get far, far, far worse than that.
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>>186575610
Overblown what? People who call him edgy mostly talk about SC.
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>>186575610
If I remember right, it's literally the only edgy thing he says throughout the entire game. I really don't get people who say Joshua is edgy.
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>>186574974
Genealogy of the Holy War has a good plot, also Thracia 776 (kind of) has a decent plot in that it's connected to Genealogy I guess.

Otherwise no it's all pretty generic.
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>>186563546

This is a little different.

The Yin thing is simply the audience knowing something that the characters in game do not, which happens frequently in all genres.

With Emma the player notices somethings up and the characters know somethings up, but the characters keep cockblocking the player by letting Emma opt of explaining, even when it's obvious she really knows shit she should be explaining and even when Emma herself is willing to explain, for no real reason beyond they want the dramatic reveal to be at the end of the game. And then once that's over Emma starts infodumping stuff constantly in CS2 a total reversal of her attitude now (after getting all of one game to get her to admit anything, now she won't shut up) for no real reason beyond the story will allow it because the big secret is revealed.

It's horribly unnatural storytelling where the plot strangles the characters actions and they don't flow natrually
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>>186575768
Maybe those people played all the games.
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>>186576175
He's not edgy at all in 3rd and in SC he's gone most of the time. You can argue that (SC spoilers watch out) crashing the Glorious might be edgy but really it was the most surefire way to take out Ouroboros. And even then he abandons the plan to save Estelle.
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>>186575610
He only goes full nothing personnel in SC.
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>>186576112
Delet this. There's no way anyone can have actual arguments against CS.
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>>186574534
Exactly one year even. There's only one day difference between both games' release date.
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>>186576112
>>186576743
>trying to resume a shitflinging from 4 hours ago.
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>>186576445
He is edgy when he is not gone. In fact the entire reason he's gone and won't come back is muh dark past/self and needs to be healed and become a normal person.
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>>186576445
His portrait is edgy as fuck. Otherwise, he's just more serious than usual.
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>>186576974
The entire reason he's gone is because Weismann could literally snap his fingers and have him murder Estelle. Joshua running away was the most logical and selfless action he could do. He needed to go off the grid to get out of Weismann's eye. He'd crash the Glorious to end it all then go off and be a deliveryman to live with the shame of murdering an airship of bad guys. It was the right thing to do, but Estelle of course says fuck logic, you're coming home and we're doing it my way.

Nothing edgy about that IMO.
>>
>Kiseki
>No one dies
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>>186577152
One of the things I like the most about the series actually. It can get dark, but overall it's very lighthearted. I think like 3 people died throughout the entirety of FC/SC.
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>>186571112
towa is awful in japanese nothing can beat that
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>>186577287
>every role I can remember Ai Nonaka is nice, decently pitched and generally pleasant to listen to
>Towa is a screeching goblin
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>>186576906
That reminds me how absolutely hard it is to make games nowadays. Triple A games can take up to 5 years to develop.
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>>186577431
>Ai Nonaka
>Decently pitched and generally pleasant
Fuck no, her roles all sounds like Towa.
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>>186577152

Except Cro.....

uh....nevermind.
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>>186576175
Joshua is not edgy in any of the games except in the flashback to his past when he was just adopted by the Bright family.

I've come to accept people don't know what they're talking about.
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>>186577152
Don't bully.
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>>186577549

Most Kiseki games reuse the engine with no modifcation, which helps things come out faster.

Not only that but since most arcs take place in the same country, they can even reuse the same areas for the most part.
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>>186577792
>Arios
>Good father

>Schera
>Good sister
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Was the planetarium in the school festival inspired by the one in Michelam, I wonder?
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>>186577940
Arios is complicated but I don't think Schera was ever a bad big sis.
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Well, based on the design, this bell doesn't look like it's going to be plot-relevant at least.
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>>186577978
>Randy
Excellent choice. I love his wish the most.
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>>186578081
But if you draw a line between the location of the bells, you can form a cross
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>>186578136
FUCK.
Lloyd, you and your big mouth.
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>>186578263
I was actually expecting the ruins in the lake to have some sort of bell
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>>186578263
Forgot the spoiler tag.
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>>186577152
Bad things are only allowed to happen in flashbacks, remember that nobody died in the Grancel attack.
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>>186578362
i forgot who small and cozy Crossbell is
you can just walk everywhere
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>>186578346
Well, I dunno if it will be important later or not. I'm still in Michelam like you.
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>>186578434
That's also its biggest problem if you're into talking with NPCs
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Played Dawn of Ys yet?
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>>186578795
playing celceta instead
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>>186578898
k
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>>186578795

Brandish 2>Dawn of Ys
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>>186578739
If you're really into it it won't be that big of a problem especially since you have fast transport most of the time. I really loved it although I admit it can get tiring when there's multiple days.
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>>186579146
People can argue about harems and fanservice but Intermission is worth it just for Randy alone.
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>>186574974
4,5,8 and to some extent 9 are the only ones worth playing for the plot.
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>>186579507
>8
>plot

Really? First time I've ever heard that one
8's only worth playing for Myrrh
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>>186579652
8's plot is very much better put together compared to most of the series. They focused on the character relationship between the lords and Lyon not to mention the way how they varied him up a bit and a few scenes at that depending on the lord was pretty good. Complain about the scene at the end of 18A all you want, Eirika's character flaws leading to a minus that she had to work back from was well done.

Anyway, good taste for liking Myrrh. Liked her better than the other lolis in 8 even if she wasn't my favorite girl in the game overall.
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>>186579792
Okay that's fair, I was just testing to see if your reason for claiming that was character-focused and it was
Ephraim is one of the best lords and some interactions between certain units and villains (you know the one) are fantastic like nothing else in the series
Granted I still wouldn't say Magvel has a very interesting history, or that the ACTUAL plot/journey were Genealogy-tier, but your reasons I don't disagree with

Funny how gathering fans of a series with really good worldbuilding in one place basically turns this into /jrpg writing general/
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>>186579986
Magvel has some potential but its still the world with the least games tied to it. 1/2/3/4/5/13/14 (even though its technically 13's isekai counterpart and i hate that they forced it) are connected, 6/7 are connected and we have 9/10 together.

Also, i don't think FE4 deserves a tier of its own plot wise relative to the rest of the series. I do agree that its nice to see IS put an effort in when making plots but how can i put it, the characters felt more like they were forced to do things to suit the plot rather than the plot was designed around the characters.
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I want to have unprotected vaginal sex with Emma
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>>186578136
What does he wish for?
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>>186580424
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>>186580425
For all the hotties in Crossbell to turn into his harem!
So they could continue being comrades forever
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Yo, newbie! How are things?

Instructor Orlando! Everything's fine, thank you.

Y'know, I'm looking at you and there's one thing I can't stop thinking about.
I mean, you kinda remind me of that guy.

*ladies' man* *bustle*

Yeah, you really resemble him...
*Why the hell is there another one...*

[40 days left until Sen III releases]
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>>186580590
Thank you kind anon.
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>>186580382
>the characters felt more like they were forced to do things to suit the plot rather than the plot was designed around the characters.
Yes but that actually applies in-universe too rather than just from a writing perspective, and that's what's so good about it
The characters were predestined to do things they did because of their bloodlines, and a spooky dragon cult was working behind the scenes to arrange everything to be just right the whole time
I understand what you were getting at, but it was more that the fact that the some things were out of the characters' control was intended, and they were knowingly forced into it

But I guess I'd rate them more on presentation than just the fact of the plot, and that's the one where character interaction was especially engaging and there was a slightly bigger deal made of politics than "some guy's a dick and there are dragons"
Also NTR is my fetish
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>>186580424
>>186580569
3D portrait was a mistake
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>>186580771
your birth was a mistake
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>>186580812
i agree
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>>186580721
The only thing that was predestined in 4's plot was the fact that if two lopt heirs fucked, then they'd revive the dark dragon dick. Everything else was just collateral as part of the lopt cult's machinations to make it happen. Although strangely enough Sigurd was the one responsible for that since he's the one that dragged Diedre out of the forest.
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>>186577813
Yep I'd go absolutely bananas if it took 3-5 years for a sequel. Even so it is clear PS4 dev cycle is longer than PSP.
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>>186581084
>tfw have to wait at least 3 years for next Trails/Ys
>Probably even longer because there will be [___] Xanadu after CS3
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>>186581182
>Towa Xanadu
>Every character is Towa
>All locations are full of Towas
>It's just a slice-of-life where everyone is Towa doing Towa things
>There's are important scenes in it necessary to explaining Kiseki's plot so you can't skip it
>The gameplay is also either really bad or wholly nonexistent
>Towa!!!!
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>>186580424
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>>186582291
What the hell has Lloyd actually been doing these past two years? Does any supplemental material out there cover that stuff?
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>>186583923

lots of sex with Rixia probably
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>>186583923
We'll find out in Send 3 most likely.
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>>186583923
Busy fucking his harem
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Man, this thread is deader than Karin.

You guys too busy with the /v/ thread?
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>>186577152

>No one dies they just faint
>All dark stuff is generally in the past and never dwelled upon

By being lighthearted and generally fit for children. Trails's dark parts hits you harder.
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>>186577431

Ai nonaka has no range because of her unique voice. She sounds the same, dating as far back as Pani Poni Dash.
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>>186583923
All we know is something about being one of the leaders in the resistance
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>>186584769
Haven't watched many anime with Ai Nonaka, but I never realized Tirami in Amabri was her.
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>>186581431
She is wonderful.
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I need that Ao patch already...
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>>186585686
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>>186585902
Go away /d/, its not funny anymore
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>>186585891

30% done.
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>>186585974
>that face
Jesus
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>>186585983
I thought it was 50?
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>>186585983
>30% done.

http://gurennoheyakara.blogspot.com.br/p/games.html

Total: 844995/1629086 = 51.87%+
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Now hold on.
Is this spell called "Bless" or "Breath"?
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>>186585983
That's Zero's, no Ao's progress.
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>>186586302
It's supposed to be Breath. They're wind-related.

Breath, Breeze, Aerial, etc.
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>>186586465
Bless makes more sense as a healing spell.
Is it supposed to be some Japanese pun?
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>>186586575
>wind-elemental spell
>wind is frequently described as a "divine breath" in mythology
>Are you sure it's not "bless", dude?
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>>186586575
You can't tell whether ブレース means "Breath" or "Bless".
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>>186585974
Emma is a whore
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>>186586575
You are overthinking it. It's just a wind spell. There's holy breath too.

>>186586719
No. It's written as ブレス
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>Bracers are sworn to defend citizens
>Beat citizens up constantly
>Don't even need a warrant
It's anarchy I tell you
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>>186586950
>Esther
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>>186586950
Liberl needs an RMP division stat
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>>186586991
fuck off xshit shill
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>>186586950
>>186587020
Liberl needs Osborne. Stupid cow cunt Alicia signs a piece of shit "non-aggression" "pact" nobody respects anyway and gives away cutting edge technology because she's a dumb bitch. Duke Dunan is further proof that Liberlian "royal" family engages in frequent bouts of inbreeding and Klaudia is most likely retarded as a result.
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>>186587431
You were correct until the Klaudia part
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>>186587431
Bracers are literally just legalized Jaegers.
Hired thugs.
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Reminder that CS3 trailer never ever.
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>>186587489
This is my least favourite new meme
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>>186519136
by quite a lot actually
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>>186562263
>I feel like Im missing out a lot for not playing the Crossbell games before Cold Steel
>>>186562410 #
The only thing you're missing out on is majorly unecessary spoilers
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>>186586991
He keeps changing it for some reason, the most awkward one being Esteru-chang.
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>>186562263
I felt like it was fine until the end of CS2 and CS3 looks to be similar to that.
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Bread
>>186588057
>>186588057
>>186588057
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