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New champ edition
NOTE: You will be playing against bots in casual queue until you reach account level 5.

>OP Text (Needs updating!)
https://pastebin.com/6rn1s422

>/palg/ Discord
https://discord.gg/SNwXWHe

>Official pages
Website: https://www.paladins.com/
Forums: http://forums.paladins.com/
Server status: http://status.hirezstudios.com/

>FAQ, useful links etc.
http://pastebin.com/mx4LjKSz

>Patch notes (OB56)
http://forums.paladins.com/showthread.php?51392-Open-Beta-56-Patch-Notes-August-9th-2017

>Steam Store
http://store.steampowered.com/app/444090/

>Paladins Wiki
http://paladins.gamepedia.com/Paladins_Wiki

>Tutorials made by Hi-Rez (playlist)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2qlES6unUwY&list=PLfqXKYM_LlNyc6n9nhYujLyniK69nMFrB

>Champion guides made by Hi-Rez (playlist) - may contain some outdated info
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5TSsepFwBM&list=PLfqXKYM_LlNwUxmoNDngInm4DnaanoKS9

>Decks
http://www.paladinsdecks.com/

>Counter Guides
https://paladinscounter.com/

>Account statistics
http://paladins.guru
https://mypaladins.com
http://masterpaladins.com

>Owl Teaser
https://twitter.com/PaladinsGame/status/898253408691408896

>PTS (Play Test Server):
http://forums.paladins.com/showthread.php?13102-Joining-Paladins-PTS-and-Contributing-to-Development-September-27th-2016

>PTS Steam Version:
steam://install/596350

>Bug Reporting Thread (OB56 PTS):
http://forums.paladins.com/showthread.php?51376-OB-56-PTS-Bug-Reporting

>Paladins Magazine Issue 8
https://gameonmag.com/portfolio/paladins-magazine-issue-8/

Previous thread >>186412661
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>>186505202
what a shit looking champ

>stealth sniper

Oh boooy i can't wait for an even cheaper fuckin kinessa
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My thread
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>tfw no more kinessa
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He kinda looks like Loki
And is probably as shitty as him
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I want to snipe Fernando's head as the new champ!
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>360 no scope

alright you got me
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>>186505312
he looks nothing like loki though, not even the helmet.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_QSRChDM-Ns
Relevant video
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>bolt action stealth sniper
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I want to be told of Fernando's exploits across the realm!
Trying to juggle between making threads and getting the first post in is a bit silly of me.
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>>186505393
The Phoenix skin makes him incredibly similar.
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1300 damage epr shot
no charging but have to scope out every hit
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lmao
who the fuck thought this was a good idea
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secondary fire pistol does 249 per hit on bodyshot
374 headshot
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>>186505464
Can he land headshots?
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How can Kinessa even compete?
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B A D A S S
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i cant wait for people to only use the pistol
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>>186505562
Yes. It was like 1950 damage.
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>>186505562
Yes
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>skills for every weapon
IT'S TED MCPAIN ALL OVER AGAIN
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>>186505460
and the guy responsible for this got a promotion
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>one shot one kill
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>One shot, one kill

Holy fuck Paladins at least fucking try to hide it!
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>>186505620
>>186505656
They are trying really hard to make the game less fun aren't they?
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LITERALLY HOW WILL KINESSA COMPETE
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>>186505680
>>186505684
Is that a jojo reference?
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>>186505705
This champ is a disaster to be honest. Especially when we still have a problem with cheaters. Not that kinessa was much better, but at least she didn't have a crazy machine gun as a side arm.
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>stealth
>sniper
Liteally no one ever asked for this.
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>>186505562


>>186505684
>>186505680
literally ever sniper in the past decade has had that as a voice line.
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>1950 shot kills cassie
Wait, what
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What's his ulti?
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>invis sound effect
i came
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literally a better kinessa
what the heck
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>>186505861
It's probably the weird cassie bots with ~1600 health that are also in the shooting range.
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>>186505861
With that and the way lex was shooting, I think some balance changes are coming.
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>>186505861
its a bots health
i hope
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>>186505854
Name one, faggot
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Stealth TOGGLE that depletes the purple gauge on the reticle.

Slight delay before going fully invis.
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>literally an ult from ow
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FLASHBANG is his ultimate.
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>GARRET WHAT'S IT CALLED
heh
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GARRET WHAT ITS CALLED
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>>186506207
GARRETT WHATS IT CALLED
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>Its another instawin a duel ult.
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>>186506136
>ow

anon he is a csgo
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>so we need a new hero guys, he's gotta be fun to play, and play against to bring people back/bring people in
>what's a usual type of gameplay that's fun to play against?
>DUDE SNIPERS LMAO
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This character is not op and is the second skye
I cant wait to rape with buck and evie :^)
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>hear flashbang
>instantly turn my back on it because of years of counter-strike
>get flashed anyway

this is gonna make me mad, and I know it
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>>186506257
>doesn't make you damage invulnerable
>doesn't prop up and damage another person for free
>doesn't kill at an arbitrary health threshold
stop posting any time
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hes gonna get nerfed in the next 2 patches
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>I'm pistol strix :)
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>injun man of many hoots and sneakiness
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>>186506284
He's not the second skye, he's the new Kinessa. A champ who either is incredible or awful, depending heavily both on player skill and the map.

>>186506431
I have a rapid fire button on my mouse. Seems like a good build for me.
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>>186506431
>have to hit first sniper shot
lol no
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Fuck this guy. I want to see that LEX REWORK.
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strix is either OP or useless depending on what his cooldowns and cards are
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>>186506431
I'm carbine Kinessa, wanna fuck?
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>two snipers on the same team
no
who asked for this
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>>186506393
>Completely binds the opponent for about 2 s
>not cancer to play against
please consider uninstalling
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>>186506530
>he can't quick scope
lmao
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2 SNIPERS PER TEAM
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>kinessa and strix in the same team
>10k+10k 20k total damage
lmao casuals will be fucking fun
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>>186506581
>this adds the opportunity to add two snipers on a single team
>they praise this as a good thing
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>>186506280
more like
>kinessa is not popular,how do we fix it?
>just add a better sniper lol
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>flare doesn't reveal for allies
>there's not even a way to spot things like in Smite
Can't wait for him to be worthless in game since nobody uses voice chat.
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>>186506583
>What is resilence
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>>186506431
but that's essentially a better Skye
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>>186506583
>blinds opponent
>still able to shoot
>still able to use movement abilities
It is quite literally not an instant win, when there are actual straight up instant win duel ults, you fucking tard.
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>>186506619
find me one huehue kinessa instalock that can even snipe
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>>186506581
>not picking Cassie, Sha Lin, Strix, Kinessa, and Lian as the ultimate 5-sniper meme dream team
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>>186506581
>>186506645
Oh my fucking god I can't believe they actually said this WTF
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>>186506581
>four snipers in one match
Fun!

>>186506561
It's more about if the player can land shots imo.
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Remember, guys, professionals use standards.
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Why the fuck are they adding another sniper
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>>186506738
to appeal to their retarded playerbase
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Can't wait to snipe him as Grover.
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>>186506682
A personal wallhack on demand for a sniper is already good enough
It's not a team thing, it's just something you use around a corner so you can shoot people coming around it instantly
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>>186506583
>resilience
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So flanks will be meta at shitter ELO to farm all the snipers
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>>186506738
Why do we even have one sniper? Snipers are anti-fun.
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LEX MAGNUM IS SEMI AUTO NOW
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LEX REWORK
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>>186506738
Like that when Kinessa is instalocked retard won't pick Grover to snipe.
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>we're making all of our champions more generic
fucking stop, it was bad when they did it with the projectile changes now it's getting even worse
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So, why does her bird die when she does?
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HERE
COMES
THE
LAW
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LEX IS FUN NOW
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>people can now lock level 0 Strix in ranked
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But I liked old lex's gun
:(
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>completely rework lex

what the fuck hi-rez
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>>186506964
>dual pistol
>bad
fuck off
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>>186506691
>>186506698
>>186506821
>having to buy resilience for a single ult
atleast there is some counterplay unlike lian
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>10 shots COMBO'D WITH AIMBOT
>HE HAS CARDS TO GAIN AMMO BACK
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NEW YING ULT INC
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>>186507053
>people will start to ban snipers in comp
>willo and drogoz will be back now
CHAOS IS A LADDER
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HOLY SHIT YES TELEPORT YING
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>kinessa and skye are garbage
>add a champ that is a better sniper than skye and has better stealth than skye
>also buff lex so his guns can be used as a better version of skye's

NICE

JOB

LO-REZ
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I wonder if the Ying poster is happy with this.
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wait, ying's ult were that thing on the ground?
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I didn't understand the new ult.
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>>186507197
No, it was a global heal over time that triggered when she said "time to take charge."
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>>186507197
I always sort of suspected that. Glad they actually fixed it.
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>>186507087
Or you can just get good and anticipate when hes gonna throw the flashbang and turn your camera away.
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>>186507184
i think not, they touched her mirror
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>>186507176
I'm not saying fuck Skye, but fuck Skye.
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>>186507242
>heal over time is faster, so more heal
>she can now use her teleport directly to you during her ultimate
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LMAO KINESSA AND SKYPE BTFO

LITERALLY JUST WAIFU TRAPS
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QUICK GIVE RUCKUS MISSILES
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GIVE ME THE DAMAGE REDUCTION BACK REEEEEE
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RIP ruckus damage reduction
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lmao rip ruckus, fucking retarded devs
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Ruckus reworked to now have missiles instead of damage reduction.
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>>186507268
I dont think you works like that,atleast i dont think they said that
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rip ruckus
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>the shit solo tank that might as well be a damage got stripped from the only defensive ability to help his allies
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>>186507410
the madmen did it
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Fuckus is now 100% damage, wooo.
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Finally
Fucking Ruckus massive OP faggot finally can die
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WHY ARE THEY MAKING RUCKUS MORE OF A DPS?
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So ruckus cant solo tank anymore
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WHY DID THEY DO THIS TO RUCKUS
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>what is wrong with tanks?
>they are better damage dealers and flankers
>LETS GIVE RUCKUS MORE DAMAGE AND LESS TANKINESS LMAO
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Doesn't that mean the flux generator legendary is now the missile legendarily?
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XD 500 damage
so what are they gonna do with his legendary
>THEY DON'T EVEN APPLY CAUT AND WRECKER
LOL
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Ruckus is fucking dead now.>>186507524
hello bronze
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Ruckuz was very strong this patch, I'm ok with it.
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>>186507498
forever side tank
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>BALANCING
hold your fucking seats
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NO MORE DEFT HAND MAEVE
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>no more deft hands maeve
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>no more deft hands grover
what the fuck lo-rez
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NANDO NERF INC
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>daft hands no longer works on throwable characters
>they couldn't jjust make them throw/charge faster
Bravo lo-rez
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BUCK BUFF PLS
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I wish they made the Repulsor Field effect for teammates part of emitter. I liked being able to save them occasionally.
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NO RELOADS CANT BUY DEFT HANDS ANYMORE
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>>186507620
How was he strong? Are you literally bronze?
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Ying's back boys. Now spreading STDs globally!
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>>186507747
it might do something like that, we'll have to see
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finally
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>>80% caut at the start of the game every 3 seconds for 3 seconds

HELLO?????
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>>186507739
do you really want a machine gun maeve?
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buffed. i think he was buffed haha
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MaKE RAYNDay SOtp
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>>186507787
I've had people think I was hacking because I could do emitter, then Repulsor Field, and repeat that every fight. Low level players don't understand how Ruckus works.

>>186507896
Charge is a buff IMO, but fireball is a nerf.
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Get fucked, Jenny.
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>>186505312
>Loki
>Shit
LMAO. They look nothing alike either.
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>>186507184
I'm glad they're making my girl happy. The change looks like a straight improvement over the old mechanic.
She is already perfect in my eyes, but not everyone thinks like me. I hope people stop being so mean to her now.
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No Cassie nerfs?
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>>186507859
>>186507896
You need to take a level 4 card for it, which means you get cucked out of many of the other cards that are required for fernando to be good
It's a nerf
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>>186507945
That doesnt mean he was powerful,he was A-tier at best
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>>186507880
if she skips out on caut or wrecker, she deserves it.
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>incinerate IV + brand IV
Just caut my shit up
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Fucking lex man
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NO ONE ESCPES
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mini battering ram
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Woah, Lex auto-fired if you hold the mouse down? I had been playing him as semi-auto since he came out.
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Battering lex
New meta pick
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>Battering ram for Lex
MADMEN
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WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS REAL LIFE?
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>>186508127
THE
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>>186508145
All weapons have been fully automatic up until now. All except for charging ones like Sha Lin's arrow.

They just had lower fire rate.
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LIAN NERF INC
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>>186508145
Every weapon in the game does (until this patch) but yeah, for champs with low ROF like lex and androxus, nobody actually holds the button
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>>186508163
L A W
A
W
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BUT THE GRACE LEGO WAS THE PROBLEM REEE
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HEROISM LEX IN S+ NOW
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>>186508229
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>>186508163
LAW
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>>186508024
>öyh öyh cassie op öyh öyh
bronze please go,there is little reason to pick her over lian now.
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>>186508204
I've always played most of them as semi-auto unless it's obvious they aren't.
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>>186508280
>BUT THE GRACE LEGO WAS THE PROBLEM REEE
sub 2k shitter
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>>186508280
They can both be the problem now
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quality stream
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Sasuga Hi Rez. You can't even keep a stream up, much less servers.
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lol nice stream
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>>186508280
retard
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Fuck, did anyone catch what they were saying about Pip?
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>nando nerf
>jenos nerf
>lian nerf
WHERE IS YOUR GOD NOW?
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>maeves weapons would fire slightly slower at lower framerates
>bad pc literally holds you back
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they fucked up
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>>186508440
something about reloading
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>>186508314
You basically outed yourself as a shitter sitting in low elo where people don't abuse Cassie's infinite mobility, because they can't hit a shot after the roll. Nice.
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>>186508445
Right here,since they were literally almost SS tier.
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There. There's your Skye buff.
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>>186505267
>tfw she'll never claim your point
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>metal march is Repulsor Field for yourself only

>>186508440
Reload doesn't activate when you heal yourself (text change).
Pep in the Step can't increase movement speed (bugfix).
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>skye nerf
holy fuck you can't make this shit up
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>Skye nerf
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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stream gets dropped hacked
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Why the fuck would they remove Ruckus ability to protect teammates?
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>>186508618
t. retarded
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>>186508602
>>186508618
>Nerf
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>>186508602
>>186508618
>>186508619
You're all retarded
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>>186508620
Next patch his class will be changed to damage
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>>186508569
>Muh ELO
nice job tard,you clearly have no fucking clue what you're talking about
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The specifics for the Ying change
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>>186508602
>>186508618

But anon, they now deal the same damage over a shorter period, and the caut effect is just moved to a card that did it anyway.
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>>186506709
switch lian out with grover so he can root people and someone else can followup
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>you now get notified if faggots get banned

Noice.
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Pip pictured here with new mystery owl.
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What did they do to Precision? I had to leave
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>No Buck buffs
>No Grohk buffs
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Another thing

>>186508907
No bonus damage, only the reload.
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>>186508907
no longer gives bonus damage
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>>186508907
No more extra damage from it.
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>buffing reports
STOP
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>the ult lines are finally getting used
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>no new champs in ranked for 2 patches

Well there you go.
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>new champions banned from comp
god bless
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LITERALLY BEST PATCH
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NEW CHAMPS BANNED FOR 2 WEEKS IN COMP
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weeks*
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>Vgs blocked during the start of top play
fuck off, let me skip this garbage. and watch out because they're gonna start selling top play lines
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>no owl faggot in comp
good
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>maeve is still useless
>skye is even more useless
>kinessa is now obsolete
>ying's ult is now amazing but her base healing is still garbage

good patch
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>NO OWL SHITTERS IN RANKED FOR 2 WEEKS
Best news right there.
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>skye more annoying than ever
>ying will be broken af
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WTF WHY CAN'T I PICK STRIX HIREZ FIX BUG!!??
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>>186508892

Sorry anon, Strix is Batman with a sniper rifle, not an actual owl.
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raynded
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>>186509053
>ying will be broken af
Her ult is kind of a better/worse grover's ult.
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>gets creampied
what did they mean by this
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CREAMED
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lol
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>>186509032
>skye is even more useless
It was a buff you fucking retards.
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>you will never cream pie the community hobby horse
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>>186508772
>Cassie constantly banned or picked in tournaments/high elo ranked
>not OP
Sure, sure.
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CREAMPIED
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>>186509176
>long hiar
>pale skin
IS this what love is?
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>>186509138
>Her ult is kind of a better/worse grover's ult.
What did anon mean by this
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That was really uncomfortable to watch.
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WHY NO TYRA BUFFS
THEY IGNORE HER LITERALLY EVERY PATCH
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>>186509268
cuck
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>>186509138
It's better becaue you don't need to be in the middle of the fight for it to take effect, also her close range damage is insane right now.
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I wonder how lifelike works with her new ult given that it used to apply to her ult clones
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>>186509293
What's a "Tyra"?
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Other than ruckus and strix bullcrap this is a pretty good patch. We still need Lian's auto aim Cassie's hyper mobility nerf tho.
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>my main hasn't been ruined just yet
Still a reason to not quit playing just yet
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Well, rip Precision. I'll just go for the bonus damage on presence now.
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>>186509176
>"its still in my hair"
my dick is diamonds
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>>186509262
Everyone gets healed, for less, but she doesn't get CC immunity so it's not necessarily as useful for her directly.
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>>186509212
>Cassie banned in high elo ranked
Maybe once in 5 games,its always Lian or Fernando
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>>186509370
>MUH MAIN
kys
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>>186509372
>precision is bad now

lol
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>>186509176
>tfw no vampire gf

;_;
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>>186509372
Are you a retard? You should take it for the infinite ammo alone.
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>>186509419
>ignoring the 'or picked' part
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>>186509448
>kys
kill you'reself my man
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>>186509176
What does her pusy looks like?
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>>186509532
>kys
keep yourself safe, please :)
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>>186509362

Can't say I approve of Ruckus losing his team defense feature, but yeah, there's some good stuff.
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>>186509448
Does it bother you that I prefer playing one champion more than the others? Are you actually this autistic? Ash is best girl get the fuck outta my face
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>they gutted ruckus
WHY?
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>>186509654
They're searching for ways to make the flankline meta more prominent
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>>186509362
>can remove the profanity filter

Definitely so****ing good hidden in the patch.
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>>186509293
She's just fine right now.
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>>186509618
slight pinky soft skined innie that gets railed by raynday everysingleday
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>>186509654
>added burst instead of clunky damage reduction field
>gutted
?????
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>>186509521
Again,when picked,shes picked as a secondary option if Lian is picked.
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>>186509734
I leave it on just because it's funny to me.
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>>186509738
tell that to the people in ranked who bitch if you pick her over Viktor.
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>>186509739
what a gay thing to say
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>>186509637
>team defense feature
Nigga they didnt touch that
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>>186509739
DELET THIS
SHE'S PURE
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>>186509370
ash has the second lowest winrate among tanks and she's not hated by the community so they'd be crazy to nerf her

>>186509654
From a game design perspective he's right, you don't really want to have two "press to not die" buttons that vaguely do the same thing.

IMO they should've reduced emitter's shield and added the damage reduction field on top of it, then added the missiles, but it might've been tricky to balance because Ruckus is already very strong.
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>>186509795
>clunky damage reduction field
>new IP

I wonder who's behind this post.
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>>186509830
>secondary option if Lian is picked
>everyone cries for Lian nerfs
>but no nerfs for Cassie is okay
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>>186509976
>new thread
>new ip
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QUICK RATE PATCH
8/10 because if my sweetheart is happy then I'm happy too
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>>186509739
But he's gay for prettyhair.
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>>186509938
>From a game design perspective he's right, you don't really want to have two "press to not die" buttons that vaguely do the same thing
This seems weird to me, I enjoy playing evie precisely because she has three "press to not die buttons"
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>>186509795
>500 dmg every 4 sec instead of 30% gmg reduction for team
Why not make him a dps since he can't tank well and have no mean to protect other?
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>>186509910
>implying it wasn't Alyssa posting that.
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>>186510015
>stream ended
>hirez employee starts posting

hmmmmm really makes you think
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>>186510106
But he kept the team protect thing
What are you on about anon?
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>>186510004
Aight,so lets say incitement gets removed but dodge roll now fires an autoaim arrow that deals 650 dmg,according to your post,that would be ok with you
>>
>No more clutch Repulsor Fields to protect allies from grenades
;_; rip
>>
What are Styix's legendaries?
>>
patch notes where
>>186510241
I'm going to fucking miss that so much.
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>>186510241
Yeah,Ruckus literally Viktor now
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>>186510019
ying sucks lol
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>next patch HiRez gonna remove pip healing potion and replace it with a cc ability and call it a day
WAKE ME UP
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>>186510418
so... old pip?
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>>186510019
Bretty gud/10
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>>186509465
>>186509487
1200 sniper shots > free reload
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>>186510418
>remove pip healing potion
Considering how buggy it is, it could be improvement.
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>>186510072
the difference is that it's unclear whether you should use emitter or repulsor at a given moment (or both), so it feels unintuitive. A lot of Ruckuses just burn them both at the same time all the time.
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>>186510106
Isn't it every 8 seconds

>>186510208
retard lol
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>>186510757
I use warder field on Inara immediately after earthen guard for Max damage reduction
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>>186510585
So, how could we mix up Inara cosmetics now? Sunstone hair+ice walker body maybe?
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>It's too hard for our retarded players to do it right so we're removing it
yeah, that sounds like hi-rez
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>>186510418
Honestly, I'd want Pip's potion to be damage reduction so that people stop picking him as a healslut and then people won't be afraid to have a damage Pip as secondary to healer.
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>>186510585
Finally my girl Inara getting a great skin.
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>>186510151
>stream ended
>people who were watching it come to the thread
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I missed the balance section, what Nando got?
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>>186511203
Fireball caut was moved to a card, you can charge through a shield now (cooldown increased slightly).
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>>186510869
That could be a waste with Mother's grace, since damage reduction gives you diminishing returns.
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>>186511203
Increase charge cd, fireball now needs card to apply reduce healing. Pretty ok change.
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>>186511203
Charge now passes through shields, CD increased from 8s to 10s

Fireball no longer reduces healing
Brand rework for reducing healing by 20/40/60/80% for 3s

Shield description updated to say that it lasts 10s
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>>186509618
Is that you, based pusy poster?
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Poison Bolts with Debilitate deals 40% HP damage over 2s. That's 400 DPS on a 2000HP champ + your base 1400 (1800 total). On 5000 HP champs that's 1000 DPS + your base 1400 (2400 total). (headshots not included)
In theory, you should be able to shred through a 5000 HP target in 2 seconds by yourself, as well as have 80% heal reduction on them for that time.
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>>186511317
>>186511356
>>186511390
Hey, that's not so bad, I expected worse.
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>placement match
>everyone else is gold
>pick frontline
>no one picks support
RIP my winstreak
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>>186510634
The far majority of maps aren't big ebnough to take full advantage of that you are going to be fighting people up close so you will need the infinite ammo, also the CD is too long without taking the CD reduction card and you are a fucking retard if you get that instead of the the one that reduces the CD of the slide.
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>>186511390
>Brand rework for reducing healing by 20/40/60/80% for 3s
that's fucking worse
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>>186511679
So what you're saying is I should just play nothing but Skye? I kid but that does sound pretty nice
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>>186511679
Honestly, I'm not so big on the whole 'flanks that shred tanks' thing they try to have with Dark Stalker and Debilitate. Tanks are never alone, there is usually a second tank and healer with them, if some skye with 2k hp tries to attack them she will get shredded.
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>>186511928
>spend 4 points on that card when you can just rush caut 3 by round 2
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It would be funny if Strix's flashbang affect your allies as well
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>>186511928
>fireball cd is something like 2.4-3
>nando can tag people with 80% reduced healing for 3 seconds all the time if he lands his fireballs
>in the first round
this kills seris
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>>186512084
Early game advantage.
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>>186511679
She's even more annoying now, she can't really win games by herself, but her play style is cancerous and I was glad to not see much of her last patch, but it seems that she's back now.
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>tfw I played Ruckus and liked helped my teammates with Q

I'm conflicted
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>>186512164
Jenos already killed her, but okay.
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>>186512313
I will miss it, it was really good to throw repulsor field on teammates when we got ambushed by Vik's ult or something like tthat.
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Is morale boost Ying viable now?
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>>186512161
>I'm Strix
>*Flashbangs team*
>I'm helping.
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>>186512564
>now

?
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>>186512564
My strategy is Resonance + max out caut + max out morale boost

Works pretty well
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>>186512696
Isn't her new ult a slight nerf to resonance? You loose some dps at the end of the ult, since there won't be anything to explode with resonance.
I usually play Focusing Lens, so I'm asking because I'm curious.
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>>186510585
orange/white/black Inara? Yes please.
Anything else for her?
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>>186512696
by the way, does the card that heals after shatter damage activates only when using shatter or resonance illusions blowing up counts too?
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>>186512907
Mastery skins. Can't wait to see the emote.
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>>186511679
But she can't even kill tanks with low hp
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>>186512313
Same. It was nice. People would whine that I used Flux Generator, but 60% damage resist was able to save us plenty of times.
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>>186513061
>console
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>>186513061
>console
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>>186508763
>Can't explode people with my ult anymore
I'm upset.
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>>186513061
>console
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>>186513061
>490x360
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>>186513136
>>186513158
>>186513205
put me in the screencap reddit
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>>186513295
>reddit
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>>186513295
>reddit
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>>186513158
>>186513205
Don't console players think she's OP?
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Does anyone know when is the founder's pack going on sale again?
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>>186513515
never, buy it now.
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>>186513515
Christmas.
>>
considering first shot is instant andro has 1800 dps right?
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https://twitter.com/loki_diego/status/898149676964335616
FUCKIGN FINALLY FRO BEST BOY
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>just bought ruckus and his cards
>he's shit now lol
They can't keep getting away with it
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>>186513941

Oh hey, that'll be something to look forward to.
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>>186513941
Damn, you just can't don't like Holt.
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>>186513941
Is Holt /ourguy/?
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>>186513876
For the first second, yes. Over 2s he has a DPS of 1500, 1400 over 3s, etc.
This applies to all high damage / low fire rate champions and is why they have inherent advantage over consistent DPS champs.
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>>186513458
Console player here. I don't think she's OP I just think she's an annoying skank and a shitter magnet.
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>>186513941
HOLY SHIT YES
ITS NOT EASY BEING BLUE
VEW VEW VEW VEW
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>>186513941
MAHOU SHOUJO GROHK-CHAN WHEN
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>>186514270
yeah i just calculated and his dps is 1440 if he fires all his shots
>lex's new dps is 1269
>1650 with death hastens
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>>186514473
ask him on twitter, not here. He might even answer.
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A little comment about Andro
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Missed the stream. Read the thread. Have a few questions. What's the reload on Strix's pistol? Does his ult work like Skye's? Did my bot Androxus get any changes?
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>>186508127
I can see it now. Lex pros just dashes 24/7 and shooting you in your face.
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>>186514724
Just wait for the patch notes, should be up soon
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>>186514794
Aight cool. Thanks. God bless.
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>>186514708
L O R E
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>>186514687
I-I've been just writing it in case Ashur was lurking, so he could maybe draw it.
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>lex has 10 bullets now
his reload cards lost so much value but his combat slide card gained some
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>>186514784
>Lex gets ulted
>it's king bomb
>just dash, no stun, 240 damage :^)
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>>186515162
LEXED
>>
What are some good slide Lex loadout?
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>>186515042
>implying
Did you see the stream? He's going to flow smooth as butter now.
>rapid fire your pew pew gun
>use aimbot skill, slide near the end of it
>get more ammo to keep pew pewing
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New champ looks... interesting.
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>>186512201
>Skye is back
Yiss, time to get that good ol makoa out again and hook those fuckers.
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Why did they make Lex's gun semi-auto and not Androxus? Lex's gun were supposed to be super high recoil magnums.
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>>186515559
you are not even reloading half of your bullets with a level 4 card anymore
you are loading 4 bullets that deal 1600 damage
when it used to be 4 bullets that deal 2720 damage and that is 67% of your bullets
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any word on when PTS goes up?
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>>186515647
>Waffen-SS sharpshooter takes aim with his luger on a anti-partizan operation (Pripjat marshes ca 1942, colorized)
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Viktor kinda looks like he had too much vodka last night, but I'm glad he's alive and happy.
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>>186515990
Thought they said sometime today.
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>>186507945
>those torvalds who didn't understand the difference between repulsor field and emitter
I'm going to miss seeing torvalds desperately sucking at my damage reduction
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>>186516402
>mfw Strix was the one throwing the nukes during Viktor ult up until the point he was introduced as a playable champion.
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>>186515647
>>186516073
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I just jumped from silver 1 to gold 3, is that normal?
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>>186516862
Yes
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>>186508763
The heal is much better, but I liked the teleporting.
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>>186516773
NO WAY
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>>186509003
2 patches would be forever. 2 weeks/1 patch sounds alright.
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>>186516773
Deepest lore?
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>>186509835
She has her uses, but overall Viktor is better.
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>>186516402
>muzzle sweeping your teammate

Christ
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>>186517191
You should see Dota where they keep characters banned for months at a time.
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>>186510585
Needs Moon Rock Inara.
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>>186512564
It has been for a long while. Its just better healing now.
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Why aren't you playing smite?
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>>186517802
Are there miniguns?
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>>186517802
I've actually never played a moba.
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>>186517802
I got spoiled by Gigantic's gameplay, so that replaced SMITE for me.
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>>186517369
I tried that in WC3 for a few months. Was fun but being on the same map all the time was pretty boring.

Speaking of maps, I hope they add more to onslaught and payload.
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>>186517802
when i played it it was too strongly scripted with its rotations and some matchups were nigh unwinnable because >haha you can't outpush me!

>>186508127
>release a stealth sniper
>buff Lex in the same patch

what did they mean by this
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>>186518274
did you forget lex's q no longer reveals stealth
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>>186518071
the current onslaught test map is pretty fun.
Also i heard they're bringing back the old payload mode
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>>186517545
>Moon Rock Inara
Wouldn't that be obsidian Inara?
>tfw obsidian skins look more like moon rock than regualr obsidian
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>>186518069
Pro, too bad I have a toaster.
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>>186518412
You think Gigantic would work on toasters.
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>>186518352
I guess. They could make her look different.

>>186518342
>old payload mode
From CB?
>>
MAN i should retake the game, i quitted a week before "Oracle" was announced and i was quite hyped for her but i just lost interested for her
so, anyone can give me a current tierlist of the champion so i don't go in competitive with a shit champion? Is my boy damba still viable? are torvald/Inara viable? is my big boy Bomb king viable?

in the old ranked system i was 3010 SR btw
>>
>>186518530
yea the one where we had to push the cart through 3 gates.
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>>186518672
that was old siege. also that were 2 gates and one vault
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>>186518672
*the one where the cart moved on its own and the enemy team had to shoot at it for 5 minutes
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>>186518643
>a current tierlist of the champion
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The new guy weapon inspection animations are realy sweet and I lov the way the rifle looks desu, they can delete Kinessa anythime now if they want.
>>
I almost feel obligated to play the new champion considering my username is FatherOwl
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>>186518839
wow, what happened for maeve to hit C? last i remember she was an OP piece of shit i couldnt even hit
good, less trash, and fuck skye too, less trash too, always was trash.
Can i have an explanation as to why my boy buck/torvald and my girl Evie are sub-A ?
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>>186518839
His team got dumpstered by torvald a few days ago so take it with a grain of salt.
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>>186518839
This is not accurate at all
>>
Anyone else just get kicked and can't log back in?
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>>186519040
B and B+ means you need to have a specific strat for those character to work
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>>186519162
Just happened to me.

Tried to join again but I can make it thru the login screen
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>>186519040
That was fucking hilarious, especially bugzy's torvald blowing ulting ash off the map.
Still, he said that Torvald is a pocket strat, that could work with coordinated team, as all B tier champs do.
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>>186519162
>>186519285
Server is down
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>>186517898
Zhong Kui has a skin that uses a minigun.
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>fairly solid team comp
>last guy picks Kinessa
>everyone yells at him to change
>changes to Buck
Playing on weekends is a truly marvelous experience.
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>>186519006
Torvald can now only hold 2k shield max but his max hp got buffed.
Evie blink range reduced and they remove the extra dmg after blink but her projectile speed is doubled.
Buck got gutted, they chopped off his legs and hes wheelchair-bound now.
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>>186519373
Well at least it happened right after my match was over. Even had the crazy border thing happen too.
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>>186519502
>he hasn't played with a good buck before
sorry for your misfortune
>>
>>186519006
They nerfed her into uselessness because retards like you couldn't hit a moving target, also we are in the age of the tank meta, flankers are useless.
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>>186519631
I would pay for an animated border desu
Pulsating or whatever
It looks cool
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>>186519006
>Maeve
Reduced damage and range of pounce, increased cooldowns on everything, reduced movement speed of prowl, 9 lives no longer heals on default
>Torvald
Increased cd on his bubble, personal shield nerfed
>Buck
No longer jumps twice with bounce house, lots of other shit, really
>Evie
Reprieve no longer heals you to full, bonus damage on blink removed (projectiles travel faster tho), blink range reduced, there is a slight desync when you are blinking, so you don't land exactly where you wanted to, sometimes you blink three times with wormhole
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>>186519757
You mean she was a low risk high reward champion so they nerfed her into her current state.
>>
>>186519908
She's completely useless as is most flanks, thanks to dumbfucks like you, thanks.
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>>186519875
Man, this look terrible, i'll try to make torvald work but i don't think i'm going to play Evie/Maeve in competitive. Buck.. i'm gonna make him work. find a good build.
>>186519757
Stay mad MaeveMain, enjoy your z++++ character
>>
>>186519908
this fact triggers the maevefags
>>
someone ask holt when our next trap character is
>>
>>186520092
Her ult is invaluable and she can still dive and kill backline healer easily. Her ice block legendary no longer heal her to full health but enough to keep her alive and people can ACTUALLY punish an out of position Evie now. Stay mad Evie fag.
>>
>>186519908
maeve, at high levels of play, was never considered a major threat.

they had to nerf her because she shat all over baddies and could 1v5 if the enemy team couldn't hit her.

It feels like they added Lian purely so that casuals and midcore players could fight her.
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>>186520486

Well, that might lead to her getting back some of her strength, then.
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I just saw this in a /v/ thread.

Is it true???
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>>186519771
Don't give them ideas.
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>>186520620
>generic sexualized dress
What?
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>>186520620
Considering that I paid 0 dollars and I already got hundreds of hours of fun, it literally does not matter.
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>>186520620
well, i do not give a fuck about this because it both please my penis and i don't play Smite
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>>186520620
Video game companies have always done this, it isn't new.
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>>186520620
it doesn't matter as long as the result is good.
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>>186520620
Fx her fucking model hirez reeee
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>>186520620
nu wa is infinitely better modeled than cassie.

Also I don't know how you could possibly think Viktor is a modified model of Hercules. Have you seen the guy?
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>>186506207
FLASHBANG THROUGH THE DOOR
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>>186518672
Hmm, if it is that big of a map, might need more players then. Would be neat to check out at least.
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>>186520620
Man, how I wish Nando had Ares' searing flesh.
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>>186505284

Anon, how the hell do you got so many crystals?!
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>>186506207
So this is the power of "Good Morning."
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>>186522142
PTS gives you a retarded amount of every currency for testing.
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>>186522128
>fernando with chain ability
YES
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>>186522142
its not even an anon
its an hirez employee
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>>186522270
He used to have it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1NFyqL7sipo
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>>186522270
>fernando with a cripple slow

jesus christ how horrifying
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What Smite champion should be ported to Paladins? I say Vulcan.
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>>186520620
I heard they also didn't create a new game engine from scratch for this game, I bet they didn't even come up with a new programming language, the frauds!
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>>186522901
The loli.
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>>186522901
Loki
but if you think about it, they can port every champions from smite in this game with some change. For example, the "bigger" character like arachne will obviously be bigger and so easier to focus fire at, so you give them better speed ect.
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>>186522901
is paladins and smite lore connected? Is the paladins world connected to Earth through pagan mythology?

who knows, lore fucking never
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>>186523341
the freedom of character design they have in smite doesn't exist in the genre of game paladins is, can't have huge character obviously but can't have little character like cupidon too
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We need more porn desu senpai
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>>186510019
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>>186523056
>I heard they also didn't create a new game engine from scratch for this game

to be fair, using the same thing they used to make SMITE was a mistake.

>>186522901
see >>186523214

>>186523543
There's a huge size difference between Maeve and Inara.
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>>186523635
With Fernando of course!
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>>186519631
https://youtu.be/LBjAw8VC1Ok
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So sad I was really expecting a bird man rather than well, what we got.

who is next down the line?
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>>186523530
well there's grover.. and there is androxus who apparently killed a god who was identified as Nox.. but holt said that his old lore/face is non canon so..
personally i'd like to think the paladins universe is in the same as smite's and it's a dimension, and in another dimension you got the realistic earth with humans on them, and they opened a gates where Viktor/Kinessa comes from, maybe even more and the human technology scattered around the paladins universe was taken by the originals inhabitant (elf, goblins, orc) and that's how Ruckus invented Bolt, how Cassie used to have a laser-shooting bow, how Tyra got her AK, but hey, that's my theory that i had since the game still aimed that "Future-Fantasy" design and art direction, now they're shitting on everything "future" from the game like Ruckus for example or Buck back then.
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>>186508949
>only during intro and voice line
Damn, for a moment I got scared I couldn't spam WOOHOO with the Grohk voicepack anymore
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>>186523953
thats not good enough senpai
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>>186519771
>>186520690
Smite already has them, it's only a matter of time now.
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>>186523996
it will never be good enough, why even bother trying
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>>186523685
w-why is fernando in the second row?
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>>186523774
Anthros BTFO, I prefer this type of design than humanoid animals.
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>>186524121
masturbation, use of magic to fuck yourself.
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>>186524121
Remember that PvE that had multiple Fernandos?
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Strix is basically a ct who bought an awp and a flash bang. He even has the quickswitch mechanic on the same button.
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>>186523685
>No Sha lin
One job.
>>186524121
I think you should be questioning the Makao.
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>>186524614
I kind miss PVE, it was fun to figure out the exploit in each one.
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>>186520620
Smite models are ten times better.
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>>186523890
as a fan of the criminally underrated game heroes of annihilated empires with it's post apocalyptic science-fantasy spin I very much enjoyed the initial blend of high-tech projectile weapons and more old-school offerings, it's a shame they are moving from that.
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>>186524614
no but I do remember the PVE with Kinessas and mines fucking everywhere it was horrible

>>186524925
Well, we don't know much about Mokoa gender right?
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>>186525183
Thank you wikihow
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>>186525101
I wonder why is that?
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>day 5.5
>still no invite to hand of the gods alpha
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>>186515042
>Wicked don't rest IV
God fucking damn it I can't wait to fight against 90% dr, cc immune Cassie
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>>186525563
That game is in open beta. I'm pretty sure I played it last week without ever receiving an invite.
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>>186525183
>Well, we don't know much about Mokoa gender right?
We know that Makoa's cannon is probably smaller than Ash.
And Nando PvE was actually good, one of the first they made. Four Nandos and Pip and you could trap them all in a room on Timber Mill by placing a poppy or grumpy on a doorstep.
>>186524938
Me too, brother, me too.
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>>186525682
I'm waiting for it to come to xbox
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>>186524925
>I think you should be questioning the Makao.
We are all maidens in distress to Fernando, Anon.
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>>186525687
>We know that Makoa's cannon is probably smaller than Ash.
I don't like how does this sounds.
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http://forums.paladins.com/showthread.php?53313-Open-Beta-57-Patch-Notes-August-23rd-2017
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>>186525909
https://paladins.gamepedia.com/media/paladins.gamepedia.com/9/98/Flak_TR_Taunt_Directed_Makoa_1.ogg
Sorry, I don't write voicelines.
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>>186525875
https://paladins.gamepedia.com/media/paladins.gamepedia.com/8/87/Grohk_TR_Taunt_Directed_Fernando_2.ogg
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>>186525101
They weren't when it was in beta.
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>>186522901
The Manticore.
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>>186526029
I want /d/ to leave right now!
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>>186525987
The only thing I can think about for fun is a crack shot build. Otherwise it's going to be boring stealth-sniper shot stuff
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>>186525987
HOLY SHIT WTF
>GAIN 20% damage reduction after using the rockets on ruckus
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>>186525987
>Added automatic Vox callouts when being attacked
what?
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>>186526348
It will be the only viable otherwise any flank with ilum is going to eat you alive.
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>>186526405
rockets are on a 10s cooldown
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What are some good starter champs? I like the lass with the automatic rifle and molotovs. Is she good?
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>>186526508
I can disable this right??
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>>186526508
I think these are unused things like 'Help on the point' or shit like that.
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>>186526539
In all honesty, we already know this champ will get the Tyra treatment. It'll be even worse than Kinessa because at least she can move between the roofs, this guy is basically a barely visible rock
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>>186526508
https://paladins.gamepedia.com/Lian_voice_lines#Enemy_Position_.28Unused.29
there's a bunch of unused lines that tell about enemy and ally position, sniper ahead, turret spotted, ult incoming, etc. guess they might be adding that
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>callouts and top play lines added
SPAWN CHATTER NEXT
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>Repulsor Field
>Removed from the game.
WHAT IN THE FUCK
ok how this will affect Ruck?
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>>186527015
he's a damage now
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>>186527015
>Be a tank
>Remove support move
Just make him a damage at this point, Hi-rez.
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>>186527015
>how this will affect Ruck
Badly. Rockets are shit and have a long cooldown.
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>>186526810
I don't know about that, the scope doesn't obscure his vision and he doesn't have to charge shots, in the hands of a good sniper player it will be a nightmare.
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>>186527015
No more clutch shields for your team. That's something only Torvald can do now, apparently.
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>>186526723
she's not bad but Viktor is better in almost every way. the default 5 champions are pretty good for beginners but it all depends on your play style.
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>>186527015
you get 30% less health
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>>186526873
I hope they got those lines for the older champions too.
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>>186527065
>>186527086
>>186527151
goddammit Hi-rez. also 250 dmg in a large area with a long cooldown? something tells me that someone poisoned their water or something
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>>186527304
don't think so (yet), they have nothing on the gamepedia for callout or top play lines, but they might be rehiring the old VA's again now that they're adding in unused stuff
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>>186527152
A stealthed shot deals 1500 damage with the legendary. You'll have to see a flank coming for your ass, shot him first, swap to pistol and kill him before he kills you. You also have no mobility (not even 20% base speed cards!), unlike Kinessa.
But I guess it can be viable with a tank heavy meta, since you might have less tanks coming for your booty.
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>>186525987
>fernando shield
>removed from game
>now replaced with a second fireball
What the fuck?
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>>186525987
>Added ‘Reticle Change Over Target’ setting to the Gameplay Options menu.
>Added ‘Use Profanity Filter’ setting at the bottom of the Gameplay Options menu

YES TWO OF MY MOST WANTED THINGS
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>>186527589
>Tactical Retreat
>[Stealth] Gain 10/20/30/40% Movement Speed for 2s when entering stealth.
do you even read?
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>>186527589
>1500
That's like 3/4 hp of most flankers, just a couple more pistol shots and he is dead and you will be fighting closer to your allies.
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>>186520620
Would fuck hard
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>>186527794
Are you planning to run away from Evie?
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putting scopes on guns makes it harder to hit shots please stop
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>>186527794
Wouldn't it have some sort of internal cooldown? You can't just spam the skill and get perma 40%
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>>186527949
no, that's not possible for anyone to accomplish but that card lets you reposition to get a good shot on Evie just like Kinessa's escape.
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>>186528061
You can't spam the stealth, entering stealth costs a huge chunk of the stealth juice.
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>>186528186
Plus, wasn't there like a .5sec/1sec cooldown coming out of stealth? Add the fact it doesn't activate instantly and you're looking at probably a solid second or two between stealthings.
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>>186528127
Kinessa can instantly teleport from one side of Timber mill to the other, not even close.
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>>186528303
>kinessa teleports
>evie blinks/soars to her landing zone
>kinessa's shit out of luck because her TP cooldown is thrice as long as Evie's
so this is despair.
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>>186528445
So? Owl is even more deep shit.
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why am I getting matched up against a fucking pro when I haven't played for a week. That wasn't a stomp (4-2) but damn was it hard to even stay alive
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>tfw 200hrs in i just found out you have to shoot drogoz spit for it to work
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>>186528637
Also forgot to add our Ash left and short after Evie did so I was with two fucking bots
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>>186528547
>>186528445
>set up location and remember where to aim to teleport
>using headphones listen to evies loud ass
>when you hear evie jus teleport
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>>186528665
>the absolute state of /palg/
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Serious question
Why do people bother to pick dps when your team already has 3 of them?
If you have 2 flankers, 2 dps and 1 healer why would you not switch to a tank?
It really baffles me, What do you think will happen if you go into an onslaught match as Skye when you already have a Maeve and Kinessa?
Do they just not want to win?
Not get how the game works?
Think they can carry?

Its not even a question of how good they are on a champ but we'll obviously lose.
I really can't fathom why you could possibly think we can win when our comp is so outrageously bad.
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>>186528798
>you're not playing against BRs
>evie snaps to where you were facing when you launched the teleporter
>fires once, blinks, fires again
>surprise, you're dead
VVGT.
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>>186528665
What? No way, I mean I know you can shoot it while it's in the air but doesn't it burst when it hits an enemy?
I don't play Drogoz so idk
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>>186528851
>chill out, it's just casual
>if you want to play seriously go competitive
Remember that these are the people you get in your games
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>>186528975
If the bubble hits an enemy, it does meager damage and that's about it. That's why it's better sometimes to eat the bubble than to let drogoz shoot it.
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>>186505934
Not him (and really late) but I also thought it was pretty bad
If you actually google "One Shot, One Kill" it isn't really a new phrase or anything (CoD even had a mission named after it, While its also the lyrics to a song)
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>>186529042
You also deal 30% more damage to them for 4 seconds. It's an effect that doesn't apply if you burst it with LMB, I tested it long ago. Not saying it's useful or anything
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How about this. A suggestion for all sorts of class based games which are so popular:

The teamplay queue. A voluntary system where you can opt to play with special penalties for expressing disdain for the core concept of class based multiplayer. Basically, if the team ends up with a shit champ composition the match is cancelled and the entire team gets some serious penalties like an hour ban from ranked - stacking exponentially. This way, no one can sit thinking "yeah SOMEONE has to play dps and it's gonna be ME - besides, if i pick a support not like they are going to change to a tank!" - you're all in this together. Make it work or get out.
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>>186528445
kinessa easily oneshots evie.

>hurrr but she blinks on me

get good??????
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>>186529042
>eat his loogie
>drogoz now hits you harder than fully charged kinessa shots
>die in 2 shots
nice.
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>>186529283
Well, it's either that or he clears the point. Or just double-bubbles and murders everyone anyway.
And I'm not saying just sit there and eat rockets. You pop the bubble and run.
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>>186529246
Nice, is it going to consider Pip a healer or a flank? Is it going to be ok with Ruckus as a solo tank? Your system is flawed because the classes themselves are flawed
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Why does PTS say version mismatch when it won't update?
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>>186520620
>kit-bashing is now wrong because muh honor
All companies do this all the time. The only time it has actually been done lazy enough to be bothering was when Bioware used Zaeed's face model almost without editing as Admiral Hackett's face.
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>>186529439
Hey, the idea is that it's voluntary. So if you want to play in the free thinker league go ahead.
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>>186529542
Worst offender is Elder Scrolls Online where 80% of the males have the same voice actor and the same face but with different clothes and like 4 different hairstyles.
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>>186529264
Anon, if an Evie lets herself get headshot by a charged Kinessa, she's the one that needs to git gud.
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>>186528975
The firespit gives dmg boost when hit without detonating. It doesn't give damage boost if it explodes.
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PTS updating right now
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>>186528851
People don't like playing as FrontLiners because kids wanna see BEEG damage. Personally, frontline is my favorite role cause I like being in control, but of course I don't wanna play it all the time.
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>>186529007
that's completely right though
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>>186520620
And the bushes in Super Mario Bros are just green clouds. It doesn't matter.
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>>186529264
>kinessa easily oneshots evie.

lol ok
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>>186529668

Sounds like reason to play a khajiit, anon.
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New chest costs 60 crystals and has a lot of common shit in it. You get one after completing a quest.
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>>186529528
Because shit isn't up yet.

Give it a few hours/tomorrow
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I guess Strix is so fricking boring that no one talks about him.

Here are his cards: I'm going to test if a stealth based build can let him cover ground fast and stay invisible long enough to make Guerrilla warfare viable.

Aside from that, maybe his pistol can become godlike if you go full gunslinger?

There's not much you can do for his Sniper-rifle and you don't need to if you can cancel the bolt animation with quick switch.
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>>186533108
>sniper
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What's her go to legendary and cards? How do you use her?
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>>186533108

Give it time, anon. Some people are still recovering from the disappointment he's not an actual owl.

The fact that there's a card specifically for reducing his pistol's recoil suggests it might be difficult to really go crazy with it-it might just serve as a means of self-defense until Stealth comes back up, or to finish weak enemies when the rifle's dry. Either way, Quick Switch and White Knuckle will probably see a lot of heavy investment for pistol builds.
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>>186533108
>quickscope then sidearm meme build
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>>186533108
He seems so familiar already that I don't feel like there's a ton to talk about. But I will say the power on his rifle and lack of charging up makes it look like his first shot has huge value. They said over time it evens out with Kinessa but that first shot from Strix is serious. I really do like the look of his rifle and pistol though, especially the reload animation for his luger.
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What's the best reticle?
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>>186534036
red dot
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>>186533689
Mortal Reach and spam balls when you're not healing.
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>>186533689
Mortal Reach
Heal people with m2 and shadow travel before you die to get out for free, throw out orbs if nothing is happening
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>>186533689
Mortal Reach, Soul Forge 4, Blood Pact, rest is up to you. The card that gives you faster casting on Shadow Travel is bretty gud.
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>>186534187
The stun leggo is the best imo, being able to stay too far means you might no get help from your team in case of a flank, and stuns are pretty good.
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>>186534036
Red Precise
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>>186534382
You can't stay far without mortal reach you cuck
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>>186534382
It not like they will help you even if you are 10 feet away. They still don't even in diamond, doesn't matter who I play as.

The one thing I like Seris more than Damba for is you can actually heal people that are scattered about. Damba is pretty much just right in front of you.
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>>186534457
mortal reach gives you even more distance to use, you dingus
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Fuck ranking in this game dropping because everyone who plays is fucking retarded and even if I get 30 solo kills I still fucking drop reeee
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>>186534395
>>186534141
>using red color
It already turns red when you see an enemy. Using something neutral like pink or yellow.
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Are flanks optional?
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>>186534610
They both require some good positioning, but outside casual matches, you wont have that much trouble with flanks, making mortal reach the favorite for a lot of players
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>>186534817
I'd say yes
>everyone picks damage
>absolute decimation
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>>186533108
>1.3k damage for a long range hitscanner
>1450 hitscan dmg while in stealth
SURE SEEMS BALANCED
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>>186534946
>can't oneshot people as easily as Eagle Eye Kinessa can
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>>186505202
>someone on your team picks kinessa and says its fine he is good with her
>finishes with 0 kills and least damage in team
Sometimes i wish Paladins had the option to give up a fight
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I like to buy Daft Hands on Torvald
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>>186535245
Gotta keep that ticklebeam running.
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New Lex kinda sounds like Pip.
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>>186534759
Do you need it to change color to know when you are going to hit someone?
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Is it true they made Skye's tits bigger? I'll re-install rn if so.
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>>186505202
is there any major difference between the PC and PS4 versions?

My PC likely can't run the game and I've been meaning to try it out
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>>186535471
You just came from /v/, didn't you?
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>>186535526
Maybe
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>>186534891
Worked so far
2 tanks one of them turret barik
2 damage or 1 damage and healer and a grover.
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How are you guys liking the 3v3 mini maps?
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>>186535486
No besides the usual console aim stuff, PC gets patches before console does and you can get free skins via streams while console cannot and PC can test out maps and shit. Don't know how your PC isn't able to run paladins though, it can apparently run on even the worst toasters.
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>>186536173
I don't get it
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Zhin is getting a skin next patch, I think.
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0Bzq3yZyaJdDOOEs5MlpMRzZ3STQ
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>>186535764
kinessa's abs is the best part of this game
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>>186536328

An ulting Drogoz flew face-first into a pillar of molten metal.
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>>186536132
>it can apparently run on even the worst toasters

oh shit really? It's just my computer ran overwatch like ass and couldn't even try to run gigantic so I was afraid paladins would barely run too but that gives me hope
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>>186537340
If a BR can run it, so can you.
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>>186537340
Why do you think so many Brazilian children play it?
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>>186533108
Okay, I did a thorough testing of all his abilities and here is the result.

Talon Rifle MUST be scoped in, you can literally hit anywhere on your screen if you're just no-scoping it.

Don't bother reducing the recoil and inacccuracy of the Luger, the damage falloff means there's a cap on how effective you are even with perfect accuracy.

Stealth lasts around 9 seconds default and anti-spam feature that cuts it by about half. With the leggo it's 18 seconds so it's a nobrainer if you want to hide around and Gureilla warfare. The Stealth regain on elimination cards refunds about 60% back so that's alot of your killing, Takes about 1 sec before you count as 'stealth' and invisible so most on-stealth cards are useless if you plan to spam it on-off.

Flare's pretty huge range but it's useless since it only reveals for yourself.

Gunslinger build has pretty decent burst potential, kinda like skye, 80% swap speed is practically instantaneously so 40/60% should be enough.

You basically either need to get the Movement speed on stealth card and flicker it or Nimble 3 cause walking everywhere is horrible.
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>>186537684
>Luger deals 4k damage
So plus invis even when ignore his snipe he is still top tier when it comes to dps.
No wonder they ban him for comp.
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>>186538024
No, you do 2.5k without the leggo, 3k with it. Pls look at the numbers first before jumping to conclusion.
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>>186505202
fresh
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>>186538269
When its 350 per headshot its ~4k on AR tier fire rate.
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>>186538745
Damage falloff and bloom means you can't do that damage unless you stick your gun in their face. You might as well go vicktor with hipfire leggo then.
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Where is our loli champ hirez? No I'll not accept half assed lolis like maeve.
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>>186538965
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PTS up yet?
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>>186538942
On the other hand he got way less recoil than vik or tyra.
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What's in the deep space 9 chest?
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>>186539367
2 new skins, 2 kinessa skins and a bunch of crap
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>>186539036
There's literally nothing wrong with liking cute little girls, furthermore it's a proven scientific fact that adding lolis to anything results in a dramatic increase in quality.
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strix feels like shit
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>>186539612
He'll be good for the CoDbabs and Battlefield players.
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>>186539519
>2 kinessa skins
Ruined
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>>186505202
Do you guys think Paladins is better than Overwatch?
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>>186540013
yes
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>>186540013
yeah
they both got their problems though
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>>186538965
while they are cute in RPGs, fighting games and mobas, they're really annoying in FPS because of how small they are, unless you toss them in a big suit, and at that point you just got a D.va rip off
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>>186540013
Absolutely, but it's also just as frustrating a lot of the time
>>
Ruckus's rework is fucking dumb. They basically made him less tanky and his extra damage from rockets doesnt make it any better. Its basically a nerf to his tankiness. The only use for his rockets that i can see is to finish off flanks fast. But even then its much worse than having a lot of damage reduction.
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>>186540013
Yes. The Hi-Rez servers need some DDoS protection though.
>>
I know the game's doing fine, but what happened to the Smite generals?
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>>186540380
It's only 250 per rocket, too, so you have to hit with both to take out anybody. Even if they are AoE.
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>>186540013
I certainly enjoy it more than OW at this time. The servers need some serious work though.

t. retard who got to level 400 in OW before dropping it
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>>186540512
There's nothing to talk about with Smite, so it died. People didn't want to merge because they used to be merged and Paladins players would get shat on anyway.
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>>186540380
The rockets really dont seem to do that much with that high cd and 500 dmg, wich is pretty much nothing. If you want him to counter flanks just give him more movement.

This fix literally makes 0 sense.
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>>186540660
The "fix" is because Ruckus brought too much of the "fuck us."
Either that or subhumans never used the area shielding properly and complained about his "useless skill".
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How accurate is the elo on paladins.guru?
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>>186540807
I never saw ruckus swinging either sides these last few patches, he was pretty much the only the only one that fitted his role as support tank.

While he could be good he could also be outplayed unlike other meta picks.
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>>186540380
>tfw Ruckus rework is the first step to making everyone pure dps
CAN'T HAVE TANK META IF THERE IS NO TANKS
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>>186540013
Yes.
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>>186540013
>it's a paladins general
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>>186541250
Lord knows I enjoyed playing him that way.
Damage starting to fall back? Surprise, they've got a shield for a few seconds and another source of cauterize too.
Team doing fine and keeping them bottled up? Ride the cart and be a turret!
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>>186541336
2 fire ball nando coming up hot hot hot!
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Requests?
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>>186540116
We have Barik and Pip, I'm sure they can make it work.
>>
Anyone else unable to connect right now?
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>>186541518
I'd say Paladins is objectively better than Overwatch. The only answers you would get from the /owg/ general (which has no discussion at all, only waifu discussion) if you asked this question is "Of course overwatch is better than this pile of shit Paladins! Paladins is a ripoff of overwatch".

Everyone that plays overwatch and never played Paladins would tell you that. I was also an OW player, that alpharad video brought me to this game.
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>>186541708

Yeah, can you delete this shitty ass character from the game please?

Thanks.
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>>186541804
me too
aaaaaaaaa
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>>186541728
And Maeve
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>>186541708
wew lad that is indeed some spread.
How's his flare burn damage?
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>>186540921
I wonder how often Nocturnal will be chosen
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>>186541826
Why do people say Paladins is a clone when it plays completely differently? Do people think that simply having characters makes it an identical game?
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>>186541949
It's his default, so in casuals? Probably very often.
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>>186542015
They simply watched that dunkey video and that's it. All they see is a dwarf engineer, guy in armor with a rectangle shield and a girl that turns into an ice cube and don't bother looking at anything else.
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>>186540013
Yes, but but my comp matches have gone to shit, so I'm playing Junkrat in Overwatch right now.
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>>186541654
You dont have to tell me.
My only ruckus deck is only built arond his damage reduction.

Well at least grokh will be viable soon, soon hopefully. And not as damage, like some tweets indicate.
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>>186541708
Sunstone inara, how to get it?
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>>186541931
200 initial damage and then 10 ticks of 10 damage over a couple of seconds.
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>>186542228

I liked the Krunkidile video. He made an excellent closing argument.
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>>186542015
They never played it, and they trust their favorite youtubers, who played it without trying to understand it and who started playing with the thought "Hey, this game is a fucking overwatch ripoff, i wanna show it to my viewer" not with the thought "hey, they says this game is an overwatch copy, i should see for myself if that's true, weight the good and bad, and see if the people are right, i'll make my own video about it and shows people in a totally non-biased opinion by showing the other non overwatch side of the game that really makes this game unique!"
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>>186542219
Well damn, didn't know that was his default. Granted I haven't played him yet but it looks like the other two are much better.
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>>186542267
It's a set.
Body: 22,500 gold or 75 crystals.
Weapon: 14,250 gold or 50 crystals.
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>>186542249
Mine's built around his personal emitter, so it won't be too much of a change, but them swapping the keybinding is gonna fuck me up unless I remember to rebind them.
>>186542284
With the benefit of negating the area reveal. But yeah, he's going to be interesting to play.
I'm probably only ever going to play him in AI games because I am an absolute shit sniper and I don't want to drag my team down.
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Inara's mastery body goes well with most of her cosmetics.
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>>186542439
That's kinda cute.
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>>186542574
Very nice, I'm happy the stonefu got some love.
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>>186542574
the mastery are trash they basically just stuck a texture that loops around the body and that's it
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>>186540013
Yeah
I dropped TF2 for OW, and now OW for Paladins
It's definitely an upgrade if only they fixed their fucking servers tho
>>
I've been playing online games for 15 years. I've probably spent more time playing them than sleeping.

I've never played a game with servers this shitty. How do you have outages practically every hour?
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>>186542574

>tfw no cosmetic void elemental gf
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>>186543068
Hey, it's a very nice texture.
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>>186543143
The player base increases in size but the servers don't.
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>>186543068

They would look a lot nicer if they had starker highlights for the borders of clothes, patterns, metal, and other shit.
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>>186543068
it's alright if they actually do some defining and highlighting like they did with mal'damba, but yeah most of them are mediocre
one thing that i don't get is that they're repeating the same shit they did with smite - slapping the ENTIRE character with a texture. then they had to redo the gold/diamond stuff in smite because people complained about how garbage they were
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>>186542439
Nice
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>>186540013
OW has a bit more polish, but it's essentially Paladins for stupid people. Paladins isn't exactly a thinking man's game, but its customization and credit system make for more complexity than OW's static loadouts.

And the skins are better. Jesus Christ, Blizzard. Fire your artists.
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>>186543902
Shit, I may have to sink time into getting that collection just for the headpiece.
Fucking Hirez making it so you can't buy things individually.
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I'm happy they're not shy about reworking old stuff, but why does Cassie still have the awful cheerleader emote? It looks so bad, it's as if the animators were on break and it was made by some intern. Time to redo it with fluid movements and a shitload of jiggling.
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>>186542439
That little gay twirl.
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Never noticed that the brace on the back of Lex's head got removed from the summer shades.
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>>186543902
The more I see Inara the more I like her.
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AHHHHHH
Also cassies mastery emote looks like shit but her tits jiggle alot more
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>>186544110
What? No, Overwatch's skins are miles better than any skins of Paladins. They're all polished as fuck, feels really dynamic because the clothing are flexible (as opposed to preanimated in Paladins). The details put into each OW skins is absolutely impressive. And you know what is the best thing? They make skins for more than 3 character per update. Their emotes are better. Graphically, they're king over Paladins my dude.
>>186544790
i liked her since day one, i've been rocking the 90% damage resistance since day one, and it has always worked out from me.
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>>186541826
I meant it's useless asking which one is better here obviously people in a paladins thread will say paladins is better paladins
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every single emote is broken it seems
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>>186545189
>They make skins for more than 3 character per update

this one's not fair though because they update once in a blue moon
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>>186545257
Nice.
>>
Oh Hi Imani.
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>>186526053
Grohk knows whats up.
A shame he is useless in casuals
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>>186545189
>Overwatch's skins are miles better than any skins of Paladins
But does ow have a fucking Gundam?
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>>186545774

They copied Sven, who knows! Apparently Drybear likes gigantic.
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>>186546108
yes
pharah has a gundam skin
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>>186542458
>I'm probably only ever going to play him in AI games
>tfw you are diamond
>and some fuckers bullied you for being diamond and just having fun playing Kinessa in bot games
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Is Inara any good? What's her best legendary and her decent cards?
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>>186545481
That's.. not true tho. they have one big update every month. so they're not exactly not doing shit, i'd argue that it's their problems: they're doing too much shit that doesn't concern the core game. Like the deathmatch mode. Like, WTF it's not the point of the game, stop trying to make it everything at the same time, that's the error of battleborn, why do you do this? they make a shitton of map for gamemode that are NOT the main rotation and that is really annoying.
They release 3 maps a year which is terrible in my opinion, and 3 character a year, which is also terrible in my opinion. Paladins sure as hell doesn't release as many maps, but it release a tons of character that shake up the meta and offers alternative to X character if the enemy comp is not okay. I wish they could release more engaging,exciting heroe like Ana/Doomfist/Sombra and not garbage like Orisa, which is a boring character, a copy of many character ability obviously made to counter an already obsolete meta by then.
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>>186546317
Oh shit, you got me.
Nando's is better.
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>>186546317
BUT DO THEY HAVE PLUSHIE MAKOA
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>needs a good team to win
still funny to play with, tho
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what do
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Which are the carry-est characters of each role?
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>>186542321
Krunkis video was watched by like 100k.
Meanwhile, Dunkeys video is watched by what, 3 million people?
And Dunkeys was just one giant shitpost because he still needs to get that pay check from Blizzard.

I like h3h3's approach to making content. He said it himself that, because of how large he got, he can’t make videos willy nilly. His fans will favour his opinion more and they will go out of their way to mock the victim. So he always tries to think about if he does the right thing, if he worded it correctly and if the target deserve to be shat on.
Dunkey just makes videos without thinking to deep about the damage it could do. The fact that dunkey's pov was a negative one (purposefully ignoring the strengths of the game) lead to many people not even giving it a chance. Makes me genuinely upset if rational thinking gets thrown out the window just further your agenda
>>
>needing someone else to validate opinions
>>
>>186547540
shoot him till it dies
>>
New Lex is fun.
>>
>>186542015
Because it was once extremely unique and Hi-Rez stripped that down to make it more like Overwatch so they could ride off of its popularity
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>>186547975
Yeah I really like his rework and the new skins.
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>>186546410

She's pretty solid, yeah. Mother's Grace makes her CC immune and extremely hard to kill during Earthen Guard, which is excellent, but Treacherous Ground sees some use owing to its expanded radius and the ability to cripple high-mobility champions. Geomancer is handy for getting your damage reduction more often, as is Standing Stones for dropping Warder's Fields frequently. Sacred Ground gives some damage resistance to fall back on when Earthen Guard is on cooldown, and there's some healing cards to give a little extra sustain.
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>>186547540
enjoy the ride
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>>186548034
>dude make every character shoot really fast lmao

i hope we get a slower shooter eventually
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holy shit just had one of my most intense game in comp
the teams were pretty balanced for once
>>
>>186547598
Man, dunkey & Crowbcat can be either garbage or go straight to the point with the truth bomb.
They can go fuck themselve about their Paladins & Evolve video. Evolve video was, truly, unfairs and destructive to the game itself. It is a proof that people don't even try to understand the damn fucking game other than the obviously VERY WRONG season pass and microtransaction garbage (that Turtle rock studio, later after the game support ended confessed, was FUCKING FORCED ON THEM BY TAKE TWO). The only real point of the crowbcat video that is valid, is about the season pass/jewery of the game. Otherwise, he (or they, because it's a compilation of video) are completely wrong about the game. The big point of the game was that it was boring, but then agains how exactly you can say it's boring and "you just walk in a circle" when you basically follow the monster WITHOUT TAKING ANY SHORTCUT to him or using your common sense. Man, the lore of this game, the graphic, the gameplay/roster variety and character, they were amazing. Because of those fuck, during the transition to F2P turtle rock gutted the game and made it easier and more boring sadly. and they still haven't finished it but take two suddenly forced them to stop the support of the game. fuck take two. now think that they're the current owner of Rockstar studio.
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>we have a barik
>enemy team has a zhin
>zhin is using retaliation
send help
>>
What are Strix's special character kill voice lines?
>>
>>186548792
when he kills Ying "my cock sure wasn't invisible for you!"
>>
>>186548492
>dual wield
>shoot slow as shit
It's better this way.
>>
>>186548792
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0Bzq3yZyaJdDOWTFjUHpldjRlLUU
lil bit of digging, but they're there
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>>186549134
>he shitposts on Kinessa

lol
>>
>>186549134
>to maeve
>'you are small. like a cat'
I don't know, but it made me laugh so hard.
>>
>>186549336
>defeat
>"I am less than happy"

lmao

I dunno why but he reminds me of someone
>>
>>186548524
those are the wins that feel good
>>
>>186549134
>tyra spawnchatter
>"You haven't aged a bit."
so he also knows tyra, which isn't much of a surprise since martini said on the preview he used to be in viktor's squad and there's some vague connections between them. mostly about gorlocks and running away
>>
>>186548524
double tank meta was a mistake
>>
anyway, seems like Strix knows Viktor,Tyra, Ash and Kinessa, and he worked with Viktor, Tyra and Ash
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>>186548972
You're not funny.
>>
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bzq3yZyaJdDOQ2FlVVJjN3JIZkk/view
one thing they got right
>>
>>186549834
hes pretty funny anon
because ying is a canon slut
>>
Is Inara only viable with a Seris babysitting her?
>>
>>186549134
>you start, I finish
>to huehue queen kinessa
are they insinuating coitus outside of wedlock?
can we get our deus valt paladins character next to purge these sinners?
>>
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>>186540013
yes
>>
>>186550153
fernando
>>
>>186550153
lazarus might just be that. demon's gonna probably be next on the list though
>>
>20 matches with lian
>still can't afford precision

good game
>>
>>186550329
Demon will probably be third or fourth in line depending on how early they want to start their halloween event and that's when we will get demon Seris too.
>>
>>186549958

Inara is fine with even the most basic amount of healing. +80% healing received is no fucking joke.

>run in
>take some damage
>pop earthen guard
>immediately pop to full health if there's a heal on you
>earthen guard falls off
>put up wall to protect yourself
>earthen guard is back up when wall falls down

ezpz
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>>186550432
getting enough essence becomes a problem later on, I've had to start buying chests.
>>
What did he mean by this?

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bzq3yZyaJdDOSFJXOW5UeDZkYWM/view
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>>186550794
Or this
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bzq3yZyaJdDObVZtNjhxdXlWYWM/view
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>>186550957
What a creeper
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>>186550794
Who let Tina write the lines this time?
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Flanks will give Strix much trouble!
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>>186552093
>pistol strix is a better skye than skye
>>
>>186552093
You're assuming they don't get him while he's scoped and not paying attention.
Though, admittedly, they'd have to find him first.
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>>186552093
No escape ability though. You are a sniper and if a flanker jumps on you from behind you are fucked, stealth won't save you.
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>>186552093
Now the same but with Flanknando or Flankoa!
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>>186546715
Plushie Makoa is better than every OW skin. Fact!
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>>186551037
Does she have a light bulb inside her skull?
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>>186552405
Would you believe me if I said yes?
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>>186552093
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>>186552405
She's just ginger.
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>>186552093
>I can kill skye!
heh...you have much to learn buddy
*unsheathes shotgun*
*jumps behind you*
HERE'S THE WINDUP!
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>>186552540
that pause after the sniper shot already has the character doing an F or something
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>>186552732
>>186552732
>>186552732

NEW
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>>186540013
Paladins overall better, but Bastion is still my favourite character between the two games.
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