/dsg/ - Demon's/Dark Souls General

boise

Iron Dragonslayer Set

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In Dark Souls 1, does the Ring of Sun Princess basically do the same thing as Ring of the Sun's Firstborn?

so is that psndl link for demon's legit?

>>186492608
One is for offensive miracles, the other for heals

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>>186492357
>like 1000 dmg manikin stunlock combo
At ds2 had poise so you didn't get stun locked unless you were shit

reposting because new thread

>>186492904
>unless you were shit
not everyone is a pro mlg dark souls elite player like (you)

>>186492979
By shit I meant no poise armour.

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ds3 doesn't have poise

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>>186492707
Sup y'all this is Marcus also known as Epicnamebro!
Are you guys hyped to see him beat Gael on Saturday?

>>186493156
I'm hyped for him killing Gael and SoC so he drops souls again and "y'all" fags can stop spamming every fucking thread

midir

>>186492441
I want to start ds3 again and I want to use an ultra greatsword, I would like to use either the Zweihander or the Astora Greatsword, in addition I would like to use the Flamberge
Do I need to go full STR build?I think the Astora GS have an high dex requierment but would it be useful if I infuse it with heavy?

>>186493156
I'm curious, do you have a body pillow of him aswell? Your obsession with him hints to yes.

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I wanted to start the discussion about this in the last thread but it was almost dead so I wanted to wait for a fresh thread. Would you guys want to see the next Soulslike game take place in a very focused location like Dark Souls 1's Lordran or Bloodborne's Yharnam where most or all of the gameplay takes places place within different areas of a single full location versus DS2 / DeS / DS3 where you had multiple distinct but individually smaller locations?

While I admire DS2 trying to go from a focused area toward the direction of trying to capture the feeling of traveling a vast landscape, the individual areas themselves felt really tiny and in my opinion it detracted from the experience rather than added to it. The DLCs on the other hand felt like really well fleshed out locations. DS3 was a bit better than DS2 in this regard but even still I couldn't help but feel like the game world felt pretty incoherent at times and the transition from Farron Keep via Carthus to Irithyll was very jarring.

I really like this concept art btw, I think it captures the feeling Dark Souls 2 tried to capture but unfortunately kind of failed to execute in the actual game.

>invading depths as darkwraith cosplay
>tfw people actually let me hit my dark hand and steal their humanities
It's not that hard to avoid guys

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WHAT BUILD SHOULD I MAKE FOR DS1/DS2

>>186494148
Large club, 40 str, 40 end, 40 vitality, pyromancy, giants armor with Havel ring and favor/protection ring. Gg you'll hit like a truck

>>186494148
Something magical, since DaS3 doesn't allow that shit.
Show Memezaki where he went wrong.

>>186494226
Already have one like that with Grant + PW

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>>186493274
Nah, he will push Dark Souls 3 to NG+ and after DS3 he'll probably do more Dark Souls 1 again or maybe Demon's Souls/Scholar. He's still "burnt out" on Bloodborne so it'll be a while before we see that on stream.

>>186493812
No, I do not. I do not have any unhealthy interest in the dude and I am not gay. His streams are extremely comfy and I like him as a content creator, that's most of what there to it.
is to it.

>>186494148
Iron Flesh + Dark Bead and Black Flame.

>>186494246
>since DaS3 doesn't allow that shit

Being a pyromancer is great though

>>186494528
Pure Pyro early game was one of the worst experiences of my life.
Once I got CBV it was a bit better, but holy shit you do no damage until late game

>>186494528
Filthy swamp dweller.

>>186494471
Could you just stop spamming the thread with your unhealthy obsession? It's fine that you're in denial, but don't take it out on us.

>>186494590
>Pure Pyro early game was one of the worst experiences of my life

I fucking loved it. Great combustion(+iron flesh) is great. I fucking wrecked shit.

>>186494680
great combustion literally burns through bosses like a knife through butter

>>186494680
Maybe it was because I focussed on upgrading so many different stats at once, but I felt like I had very little HP the entire playthrough - at least way less than melee characters.
I couldn't tank shit lmao

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>>186493898
Different areas that are loosely connected, with individual places you travel to.

It's what From is used to and gives them more freedom of development to make a more varied progression style, and that's what I care about. I don't want a really immersive world if it means you can only play that world one way like DS3 or BB, give me something like DeS or DS2 where you can decide for yourself which areas you want to go to and which areas you don't.

>>186493898
Two simply didn't work. The concept of crossing vast distances across an open countryside can;t carry over to compact, focused (and largely linear) dungeon-crawling and the uncomfortably stilted zone transitions in Two were simple a symptom of that. There's no good way around it without turning the game into something Open-world, which doesn't gel with the design behind any of the souls games.

Three tried to address this by giving an in-universe lore reason for disparate zones to be jammed together in stark, unnatural transitions, but that also gave the impression of distance being completely arbitrary and the length and content of a journey being meaningless. The structure made the gamey-ness of the concept stand out and made it too obvious the player was being railroaded towards a singular point of interest rather than organically traveling towards meaningful locations. There was no sense of discovery.

Bloobdborne's world design had its own wealth of problems but I've ranted enough in /bbg/ about them and the rest of the fanbase is utterly blind to criticism so I won't waste my breath.

DaS1 had the right approach in that it's world design and the way zones connected best utilized the level design's strengths instead of being at odds with them. I think in trying to grow the sense of scope and spectacle with each successive release, they've lost track of what their design philosophy excelled at, and that causes the games with larger, more talented art teams, better graphics and wider worlds to completely miss the grandeur conveyed to the player in simple moments like wandering into Darkroot for the first time and seeing some bushy twig-thing prance towards you through a narrow, overgrown cleft. It's the difference from choosing left instead of right without knowing what lies ahead, entering a new part of the world and stopping to wonder "where the hell am I?" vs following the clearly laid out path to the next area in the fixed sequence.

>>186494890
Exavil is up way further north than that, anon. The satellite image for that mission briefing shows it on the shore of Great Slave Lake up by Yellowknife. It's definitely not on the Great Lakes.

Can you buff the Crescent Axe? It says so on the wiki, but since it's a twinkling weapon and has a small amount of divine damage, I'm thinking not.

>>186495141
you can buff everything untill the next patch

>>186495192
Excuse me?

>>186495192
>next patch
heh

>>186495192
I meant Dark Souls 1, sorry.

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>>186494667
I am not obsessed nor in denial. I just like discussing when one of my favorite Soulsborne content creators is doing Souls related videos.

And I know that there are people here who also watch him and are interested in his content. I posted about Marcus in /bbg/ if they would be interested in seeing him and his sister tackle Bloodborne togetherENB wanted to trigger his sister into tears with the game since she cried at Oceiros but nobody in /bbg/ was interested in discussing him and his current content is not Bloodborne-relevant anyway so I dropped the subject there until he does BB again. When Marcus is streaming most of the time the guy who announces is not me, there are multiple people here who are interested in his take on Souls and especially TRC. If you don't like it, fine. Nobody is forcing you to. But I like discussing his content whenever it's thread-relevant with other like-minded people.

>>186495324
Whatever fuels your unhealthy obsession man.

>>186494917
>The concept of crossing vast distances across an open countryside can;t carry over to compact, focused (and largely linear) dungeon-crawling

They can in a mission-based game, like DeS. DS2 should have had better zone transitions or cut off the zones from each other story-wise, forcing you to warp between them.

>The structure made the gamey-ness of the concept stand out
That's because they wanted to make sure every player's (reviewer's) experience was the same, so they forced you to fight bosses to clear zones. Both DS1 and DS2, especially the early game, had a shocking number of areas you could access without killing any bosses, through just use of key items.

>DaS1 had the right approach in that it's world design
I agree, but I don't think that's how they should design games in the future. DS1 had a very clear and unique structure, elevator-style with two bells and a bunch of gates and keys letting you move up and down them. But the problem is that if you tried to replicate it, you'd end up creating literally DS1's world again. You can't make a "horizontal" world with those kind of shortcuts (that's how you get BB), and you can't create a vertical world without either making it a linear climb/descent or doing the two bells thing again.

>>186495192
>>186495265
They better patch that shit. Either that or just make it redundant by allowing everything to be buffed as is.

>>186495324
I know "autism" gets thrown around enough to the point of losing its punch but seriously dude, seek help.

>>186495414
>Can buff Dragonslayer Axe
Whoever thought this was okay should be shot.

>>186495414
i think they should just keep it as is, so that it remains a thing that you have to go out of your way for.

>>186495078
Ah, fuck, you're right. My burger brain read "great lake" and assumed it was the US great lakes.

It's an old image and doesn't even have half the locations on it (I haven't added BFF's antartica and south america locations, nor places in ACFA). I hate AC4's gameplay but it's good pretty great world design.

AC3's separate biomes in Layered is also top-tier world design too.

>>186495549
>complaining about DSA when Crux exists

>>186495626
I tend to pretend it doesn't exist, no way in hell that shit was supposed to be that way on release.

>>186495141
>>186495271
In DS1, you cannot buff it unless you abuse the tumblebuffing glitch.

>>186495549
>>186495626
>>186495705

I'm guessing it exists solely because they wanted the image of creighton buffing it before wrecking your shit, so they made it buffable for no other reason.

>>186495826
>Yellowfinger Heysel buffs her Pick
>You can't buff Heysel's Pick
Surely I look wrong all the time and she's just using Steady Chant, right? Riiiight?

>>186495414
>Blessed Weapon on BKGS
That'll be the day.

>>186495927
I never saw Heysel buff her pick, must be steady chant

>>186496286
I could swear I see her using Magic Weapon every fucking time, it always trigger me so fucking much.
I really hope I'm seeing wrong.

>>186496390
It's steady chant.
But it does boost her damage on the pick.
Same for us too.

>try out a new game
>initially hate it and end up dropping it
>come back a year or two later to give it another try
>think it's the best game ever

why does this always happen?

>>186497168
Games that don't worry about first impressions tend to focus on long-term replay value and good gameplay, so they often get underappreciated because players can't get into them.

Games that are designed for giving good first impressions are usually very shallow past the first few levels and they make you appreciate games that have better gameplay.

To normies, souls games are all like that. Iv'e had a lot of friends try dark souls and then drop it within 5 minutes because the input buffer, deadzones, and action queuing feels so wrong that they can't stand it, but then they come back a year or two later (without the peer pressure of "prepare to die lol") and realize it's not so bad and can now appreciate the effort put into the game.

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>>186494917
Yep, I agree with you mostly on the Dark Souls 2 and 3 open world problems.

I would say though that Lothric High Wall+Castle worked really well as it's own "contained" section and I think that the world design of 3 would've been much better if they had done of the following :

The progression of the game would start from Cemetary of Ash but go into a different direction, with CoA having a path that leads you into the Road of Sacrifices and from there the game forking you either towards Irithyll+Profaned Capital or towards Farron Keep and Lothric. Cathedral of the Deep would be "optional" but if you don't get the key from there you will be forced to face a much tougher Pontiff beast as a boss when you go to Irithyll. Profaned Capital would be accessed from Demon Ruins / Smoldering Lake instead of Irithyll Dungeon. Oceiros is a Lord of Cinder instead of the living meme he is now.

Farron Mausoleum would be standing against the cliff on top of which Lothric resides and after Abyss Watchers you can enter Lothric Dungeon (essentially Irithyll Dungeon) but you travel up through the mountain instead of down). The entirety of Lothric will be an "end-game tiered area" but the kicker is that the darksign sky will appear after killing any two Lords and it will buff enemies in the remaining areas, causing stronger red eyes variants of enemies and extra spawns to appear. So essentially you get to decide a bit better where you go early but as a balancing element the final two lord areas will get harder.

>>186496251
I'd be more afraid of Blessed Weapon Hollowslayer. BKGS is still an Ultra, it's main disadvantage is how easy it is to roll.

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>>186495451
>>186495378
>liking a Souls content creator's content in a Souls thread is now "autism" or "obsession"
Alrighty then

>>186498773
Nothing to do with liking a souls content creator, people post about Lobosjr at times, but they don't dig down in his personal life and spam about him 24/7 for no purpose.

You're seriously in a sick state of denial, you really should consider help as >>186495451 stated

>play through all 3 souls games again using a different playstyle
>Beat 1 as Giant Dad. No major problems outside Artorias.
>Beat SotFS as Hexer, no major problems outside of FUCKING SIR ALLONE WORST BOSS
>Play through 3 as Bowman, forced to go Strength/Dex halfway through at Aldrich/Yhorm/Dancer gauntlet

3 really pigeonholes you into that Str/Dex if you are trying to play it for the first time in awhile... The only bosses I could comfortably use a bow exclusively on and not be gimped compared to melee were Pontiff, Nameless and Greatwood.

>>186498773
This amount of preoccupation is. And you're using the same images as that dude who wrote the enbXsis fic and the spam about "giving enb a handy". I'd wager that you coincidentally use the same filenames too

>>186499062
what's crazy is that it was so much worse with the pigeonholing at launch.

>>186499062
Yeah what >>186499208 said.
The only way to go at all was quality.

>>186499208
At least now there is a bit more build diversity.

>>186499062
Not being able to infuse bows kinda sucks. Yeah, I know it might be a conscious attempt to make people use the different kinds of arrows more but it's still sucking penis compared to elemental bows of DS1 and 2.

>>186499679
>A bit more diversity
>Melee or bust
>Straightsword are still the cancer of the game
>Poise is still a giant fucking meme
>Only spells viable are pyromancy
Yeah, fuck off.

So be honest with me /dsg/ I have vanilla DaS2 and all the DLC, is there any reason to bother with SotFS?

>>186499062
>having problems with Alonne but not Raime, who literally eats Dark damage for breakfast
And Giant Dad is not a build, it's literally just a minmaxed two-handed melee build.

>>186499887
>Not a build
>Just a min/maxed two-handed melee build
Sort of makes it a build, but fuck if I know.

>>186499845
Scholar will probably have a lot more summons/invaders, if you don't care about that then there's no reason to buy it. Maybe if you bought it during the summer sale

>>186499845
Much more active online. New boss and NPC invasions. Runs better.

Not worth it unless you're okay spending an extra $15 and replaying from scratch for those things, and even then it's DEFINITELY not worth it at the full price of $40. So until the next sale, probably no point in buying it.

There was a free upgrade period that you missed out on.

>>186499845
Yes. Buy it on Steam during a sale for $10. Even if you don't care about the PvP, it makes a shitload of changes to the single player part of it.

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Hey guys check out this thing I made for fun.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzgGVT0Z__0&t=2s

>>186499845
If you want online activity, yes.

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>>186500002
>DS3
>pyro
>duels
>pvp montage

>>186500297
You clearly mean the reverse, right? Because SotFS is the one that's designed to run at 60 FPS on all platforms and adds a shitload of summons and invaders.

>>186500381
>any reason to bother with sotfs
Unless you consider those to be positive

>>186499887
Fume nig went down on first attempt. I dunno what you are talking about, Dark Hail and Orb chunked him. I almost never had to change off dark damage and when I did I was a very effective Pyromancer. .

>>186500519
That doesn't make your post any less false, regardless of your opinion of the game.

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>>186500002
That was pretty boring to look at and I closed the video 2 minutes in. But I genuinely do hope you had fun making this.

>>186497930
this sounds so good it makes me even more pissed off

>>186500845
this>>186500519 isn't me.
I haven't played sotfs but I heard it has lower fps but more summons

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>>186497930
>>186500927
this is literally all they needed to do

>>186500127
>>186500884
Lol, pretty much expected this reaction from 4chan. But I had a ton of fun making it.

>>186499062
>play through all 3 souls games again using different playstyle
>Beat 1 with OP cookiecutter build
>Beat SotFS with OP cookiecutter build
>Play through 3 with a meme build and fail
not blaming you or anything, perhaps it was just a coincidence, but it sounds funny and biased.

>>186500845
The point is that the positive of sotfs is the relative negative of vanilla, in both cases it's reason to pick sotfs. >>186500297 is unorthodox but not wrong

>>186501336
It's not disliking for the sake of disliking. My attention span for these kind of videos is fucking short and your playstyle is kind of uninteresting to me.

>>186500958
it has much higher FPS, I can't imagine how you get lower FPS on SOTFS given that it runs on DX11 compared to DX9 and has the exact same graphics otherwise.

>>186500958
Then you heard wrong. Vanilla DaS2 on PC is a shitty dumbed down port that only runs at 30 FPS, while SotFS is optimized to run at 60 FPS. The only way SotFS would run worse on the same computer is if you have a literal toaster.

>>186493129
>5 games
>one has poise
>one has hybrid system between hyperarmor and poise
>three have hyperarmor
why would anyone expect ds3 to have ds1 poise when 2 games between them didn't have it?

>>186501703
DS1's Poise is the stability stat from Armored Core, and DS1 was an experiment at adding it into souls. DS2 and DS3 make much more sense for a melee game.

what's the point of the purging monument when velka does the same thing?

>>186501483
My playstyle? I used 4 different weapons and 4 different pyromancies. You only watched 2 minutes, so I really can't take your criticism as very valid under these conditions. You should check out the other matches then tell me how you feel.

>>186501986
You can revive Argo

>>186502091
velka can revive argo too

>>186501986
It's convenient to have it nearby or something
>>186502091
You can also do that at Velka's.

>>186501986
>>186502091
Not him but, You can revive Argo from Velka also.

I think the only reason the Purging Monument exists is to show players that they -can- revive Argo, since it's not intuitive that you would go all the way back to some shithole statue behind a locked door once you're already in the Ringed City. Otherwise 99% of players would never have discovered it.

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>>186502091
glorious japanese coding

>>186501986
You can reset the Spear of the Church bossfight from that.
Also, I can't wait for ENB's reaction when he finds out the "Velka lore connection" that people hyped him up about in TRC is just that ass-ugly monument.

>>186502140
>>186502158
Wait what. I legitimately never used Velka's Statue so I didn't know

>>186499887
>It's not a build, it's just a build

What did he mean by this?

>>186501971
>DaS3
>Getting staggered in the heaviest armor by a fucking rat or some dude with a knife
>Made more sense
I don't even know if you guys are trolling anymore.

>>186493898
I speak as an invader who likes to mix up where I invade so as not to get bored of the scenery.

I think trying to compromise the two together works best. It's nice for multiple areas to have a similar theme so that you have room to explore it. For example, you have your ice world, but that ice world contains three different styles of ice world level which phases into the next world theme, so if you really love ice worlds you still aren't going to get bored.

It means there is less laser focus on theme and thus more opportunity to fuck it up, but that's a risk you take.

Honestly, I just want the games to be bigger so that the themes can be fully fleshed out and transitioned more smoothly. I enjoyed the level design and disparity of theme in DaS3, but the transitions were awkward and felt jarring at times, and a lot of design space was ignored completely.

I would have liked Carthus Catacombs to have a follow up section which is more open-ended and trap-filled, perhaps taking design cues from Sen's Fortress. There's also a design gap between Carthus and Irithyll which could have been interesting, and another between Farron Keep and Carthus that just screams for a desert area. The transition between Irithyll Dungeon and Profaned Capital was fantastic and felt natural, but the Profaned Capital zone itself was garbage.

You could say that at this stage it just becomes a checklist of themes to tick off, but is there anything wrong with that? As long as the design is good and the transitions are smooth, you can get away with calling it 'retro' to avoid people complaining about genericity.

>>186501986
For Lapp's quest.

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Just how do I defeat this nignog, /dsg/?

His first phase is piss easy but he always kills me a few seconds into his second. His attacks are so slow, I can never time my rolls correctly. I'm running a dex build with Ricard's rapier.

>>186502559
>poise allows you to just stand in front of bosses and spam R1 without doing anything else until they die
nice design

>>186502990
>Bosses use daggers now
Nice argument you dumbfuck.

>>186502689
If we're talking about making the DaS3 zones longer, or add more transition zones, then making them nonlinear is also an absolute requirement.

But I get what you're saying. Farron Keep to Carthus Catacombs gave me whiplash, and Carthus Catacombs to Irithyll snapped my head clean off.

Lore-wise, Carthus was literally a desert. Why the fuck is it connected to a swamp. Why the fuck are the abyss watchers there. Why the fuck does the exit lead to Irithyll. Where the fuck is the sand?

>>186502480
The implication of the original post was that playing as Giant Dad is somehow a challenge run or different from playing normally (like playing Hexer in the game where the DLCs laugh at casters, or a bow-only run). When in fact it's just the most efficient way of playing the game normally.

Saying that you beat the game as Giant Dad is like saying that you beat the game without using summons.

>>186502559
DaS1 poise was retarded
DaS3 hyperarmour is retarded
DaS2 poise/hyperarmour combo is great! But the numbers are jacked to fuck and basically nonfunctional.

From Software™

>>186503091
>>186502689
I would've loved a desert zone. Something like Gael's arena. Finding out that I can't explore the huge desert at the end of TRC was so disappointing to me.

>>186502975
RobFlynn with Old Leo and Brightbug. Also level Vigor and don't get greedy with your attacks, only hit him once or twice for each combo of his that you dodge.

>>186503197
>X was disappointing
Dark Souls™ III

>>186503089
>moving goalposts
heh

>>186499062
You're clearly not supposed to use a bow as your primary weapon in any of the games. It just wasn't designed for it.

Spellcasting being amazing in 2 was a wonderful quirk, but it was still a quirk.

>>186503284
Dark Souls 3 is my favorite of the series and disappointed me less than any of the other games.

>>186503181
DaS2 had the BEST system of all 3 games, too bad the numbers were abysmal.

Sadly Memezaki pretended that DaS2 never existed, since he only worked on it as some sort of guidiance and probably looked ill upon it and decided to just gut it.

>>186503284
Basically the entirety of DaS3, it had high hopes and didn't deliver anything than closure so we could move on and stop hoping for a great sequel.

>>186503284
The most painful thing about Dark Souls 3 is looking at what it could/should have been, had they just put a little more effort/money into it.

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I wish transfering items between characters was just as easy in DS2 as is in DS3.
DS3 linearity really substracts replayability, and I often find myself losing interest after Road of Sacrifices, but I can use any weapon from the start once I got it with another character thanks to the password mechanic.
DS2 despite allowing the least linear proggresion (without difficulty spikes), has most of the cool and fun weapons locked behind mid to end game content and there's no passwords to bypass this.
It's too easy to get softbanned in DS2 and you don't even get notified, so that's out of question for me.

>>186503410
Miyazaki being a petty fuck and tossing the baby out with the bathwater was one of the worst things to happen to DaS3. So many genuine steps forward could have been preserved, but no, it was all tossed, garbage and great ideas alike.

>>186503241
Thanks anon. I'm already using RoB and Old Leo. I'm not having any problems with damage output, simply with getting hit by everything he throws at me in his second phase. I swear I can't dodge anything.

>>186503181
DS3 went back to DeS system, but attached actual numbers to it now. Now to think about it DS3 takes a lot of shit directly from DeS:
>infusions
>mana
>hyperarmor
>characters
>storm ruler/morion blade
Miyazaki is a genius.

>>186502975
Roll toward his sword, not away. Time your rolls by looking at when his arms actually move to attack, not when he starts to wind up. Also, his phase shift swaps left and right since he starts swinging in the opposite direction.

Pack on fire and dark defense, since his second phase is almost entirely elemental damage.

Flynn's Ring and Leo Ring absolutely.

Maybe poke with your rapier behind a rebel's greatshield with baneful bird ring, so that you don't have to roll from his slow attacks, just block them.

Keep your health up above half, since he loves to punish estus and lifegems.

Make sure you kill all the ashen idols.

"I am running out of estus fighting fume knight"
>raise your defenses
>increase your damage

"I am not running out of estus fighting fume knight"
>change your strategy and when you roll
>use a shield more

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Hey, Dark Saint Bident is pretty good.

>>186503714
He just connected it all into one game and made a closure. A pathetic attempt to tell everybody; "I'm done with the Souls series, now fucking shut up about it".

>>186502975
Go in with Velstadt's armour, it lowers his defences in

>>186503648
If you want to learn his second phase, just put on Velstadt's helm. Raime will get pissed and buff his FUGS right away.

Some people find the second phase easier since you only have to keep your eye on the one sword instead of two. He has more vulnerability windows too (the slow 270-degree swing and the fireball swirly) that allow you to back off and heal.

>>186503318
>You're clearly not supposed to use a bow as your primary weapon in any of the games
DeS would like a word with you. The Lava bow tears up everything in that game, even if you don't have the stats to wield it.

Although, aside from that exception you're spot on.

>>186503535
That only counts for the DLC weapons in DS2. Every weapon that is post-drangleic castle has an equivalent version you can get pre-drangleic castle in early game.

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>>186503367
Take your trash-ass, bottom-of-the-barrel, blank-corn-flake-no-milk-ass, dead-skin-in-the-cracks-of-your-controller-tier taste out of here.

>>186503769
Not as good as heavy bident with DMB, but dark infused is definitely one of the best weapons for pyro builds.

>>186503181
>>186503410
I don't get why you guys keep saying poise values were too low to work in DS2. Sounds like you were expecting it to be just as broken as it was in DS1.
When wearing heavy armor, it allowed you to take 2-3 hits without staggering, more than enought to hit back and stunlock for a few hits if they weren't wearing heavy armor.
Did you expect to be completely safe from being staggered?

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Redpill me on Wolf Knight Greatsword

>>186503732
Great advice, thanks. I never run out of estus and barely use any up until his second phase. Going to go in with Flynn's now. My strength is too low for any greatshield but I have plenty of leftover souls to level that.

>>186503810
I forgot that this was a thing, thanks.

>>186503535
>It's too easy to get softbanned in DS2 and you don't even get notified, so that's out of question for me.
That meaning CE and other bannable methods.

>>186503837
Most of my favourite weapons are from DLC.

>>186503974
I mostly mean the regeneration rate. It's incredibly slow.

A few poise damage values could also be tweaked, I guess.

What's the usual level of gankers in road of sacrifices?

>>186504046
It's a greatsword, 8/10

>>186503974
>it allowed you to take 2-3 hits without staggering
Only tiny hits in pve. PvP poise values are fucked.

The complaints about the poise numbers in DS2 is that in pvp, 2Hing your weapon automatically raised it's poise damage high enough that no player could avoid stagger without hyper poise. It means that every player has an easy way to make poise useless, but if you want to use poise, you have to compromise your entire build around using it.

In other words, the poise damage boost from 2Hing and running attacks (and various other attacks and weapon classes, not just 2Hing) was so high that they became a free hard counter against any poise user. Since everyone could hard counter you by just pressing a single button, it made poise risky/pointless to use. It relied on other players literally forgetting poise existed.

>>186504046
>second longest gs right after onyx blade
>shitty R2
>stance R1 (spin) is alright
>stance R2 (jump) is worthless
Addition of Gael's GS completely removed any reason to use it.

>>186504214
SL25+2 to SL40+3. Hosts and phantoms usually level a little higher because invaders have high upsearch range.

>>186504046
Great in PvE because it gets 20% extra damage against dark bosses like Midir, and the special R2s/L2s moves do REALLY high damage.

Mediocre/bad in PvE because you'll never land those moves unless no one is paying attention to you, and there are better weapons for that, like Farron.

>>186504186
>I mostly mean the regeneration rate. It's incredibly slow.

Or, like DS3, they should just make it regenerate fully after ~5-10 seconds of not being hit

What is this Collector's Edition that is spoken of in the readme ? I never heard that there was a difference between the normal game and the collector's one. Searching on google only brings up the product collector's edition.

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>>186503473
Going back to DaS2 and seeing all the cool things they had and how effective so many of them were, and then seeing how none of them were brought to DaS3 has legitimately almost brought me to tears once or twice.

>>186504186
>I mostly mean the regeneration rate. It's incredibly slow.
If I remember right, it gets refilled instantly after getting poise-broken. Otherwise, shitters would just backpedal and wait for it to refill.
Of course it could be better, but I think it's the better poise system of all 3 games. And I usually use light/medium armor so I can't abuse it anyway.

>>186504240
I doubt every weapon could do that, probably only the heaviest, sames as DS3.
I remember I did a fair share of PvP with a halberd, always 2h, and poise monsters would trade hits with me and fuck me over.

>>186504619
Please tell me this is some sort of joke.
Collector's Edition -> C. E. -> Cheat Engine.
I mean, how can it be hard to put 2 and 2 together?

i went through all of x-1 in demon souls do i just do all of x-2 now and so on?

>>186504485
Honestly I just want an anti gank build for the forest.

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SL30 or SL35 for Cathedral invasions?

+3 or +4?

>>186504753
Unfortunately it is not. Thanks for the answer Anon.

this general is only:
> :v DS3 IS BETTER
> no LE EBIN DS2 IS FAR SUPERIOR
nice general mates.

post PvE (the intended way of playing this games) builds for the most useless weapon you can think of (no fucking broken sword or that shit, unless is ds1) any game.

>>186502229
is that a maldron build

>>186505150
Easily 35 with +4/5.

>>186505216
Fuck off cunt

>>186505216
Sod off

>>186505235
I worry about going to +4 though because most players will still be +3 when they go to the Cathedral, and those who aren't will have gone through Carthus and probably be +5 already. Logically it just opens me up to greater adversity.

>>186505150
Cathedral sees constant activity from SL25+2 to SL40+4. People who kill Crystal Sage right away enter it at lower levels, while people who don't realize you need the Small Doll to enter Irithyll will come back after clearing Carthus.

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>>186504046
it's fun

>>186505216
Go Bannon yourself.

>>186505337
I typically always do Cathedral right after Road of Sacrifice, because it's one of the decent levels in the game, too bad about the horrendous boss fight though.

I also think most people would go there, to make sure the that poison infested area will be easier, together with the Abyss Watchers boss fight.

>>186505150
SL35 gives you Carthus phase 1/2 as well, which is cool

Dunno about weapon level. +4 is probably legit. It's hard to reach cathedral without at least a +3 weapon.

>>186504820
depends on what's your build is (or will be) really
>dex builds get cool stuff in 1-x
>str get dragon bone smasher in 2-3
>latria is full of caster shit and a magic teacher
>shrine is whatever, but fth teacher is in 4-2
>valley is a pile of shit all around, but you get some cool fth shit there

>>186505497
But I don't trust the matchmaking system not to pull some bullshit like always matching with the strongest host possible along with his three overlevelled phantom buddies.

>>186505515
>Strength builds get Dragon Bone Smasher in 2-3
Where? I fucking missed it. Please don't tell me World Tendency have something to do with it.

Also:
>Valley is a pile of shit all around
Fuck off, great area.

>>186505649
Yeah I think you needed white tendency, its at the dragon god boss fight.

>>186505461
>filename isn't AWOO.webm

>>186505602
Dude, you're playing Garbage Souls Tres. Everybody and their mother is a bloody twink.

>>186505714
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK

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>>186503816
I might try that, thanks.

By the way, I read somewhere that it's possible to prevent Fume Knight from entering his second phase altogether if you punish him relentlessly enough. I've tried many times, but to no avail. Is it true or was that person talking shit?

>>186505649
RIP

>>186504046
artorias cosplay and nothing else

>>186505649
You need pure white world tendency in stonefang, DBS is in the dragon god boss arena, when you enter it turn left.
I like valley, but beyond istarelle, mirdan hammer, large sword of moonlight and regenerator ring there's not much to it when it comes to drops.

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>>186504652
always one step forward two steps back

>>186504691
>I doubt every weapon could do that, probably only the heaviest, sames as DS3.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-iCrOdAGp3uQ9I0VgQYU2Ug2d4w2PbQZhBnobLakaMs/pubhtml
80 poise is easily obtainable (knight's set + ring of giants+2), 160 poise is max possible and heavily crippling. The 1H R1 values are perfect.

1H values
>80 poise: R1: Straight Sword and below, R2: Rapiers and below
>160 poise, or 80 with Hyper poise: R1: all weapons R2: greataxe and below

But it's fucked when you look at 2H R2s or running attacks
>80 Poise: NOTHING
>160 poise: Daggers and (some) rapiers only
>320 poise (160 with hyper poise): greataxe and below

So trying to build up 80 poise is just wasting a ring slot, and building up 160 poise only works if you have an ultra and you are constantly forced to spam attacks, which defeats the purpose of an ultra user since attack spamming is always going to be terrible against dagger and rapier users that can poke you on recovery.

Best invasion spots for sl 125?

>ember up
>equip way of blue
>dried finger
>hide in the level and watch people fight when possible

why is this so fun for me

>>186506083
Because making blues deal with Irithyll Dungeon Jailors AND an Invader serves them right.

>>186505997
I like its design and heard a lot of rumors about it, was clueless when I never found it on my way.

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How does the black knight ultra greatsword handle?

>>186506259
it sucks

>>186506364
Damn that's too bad. How bout Valorheart? I'm trying to find weapons that look good with ornstein's set

Fuck it, I'll just make one SL30+3 and one SL35+4 and compare the two

This is going to be a tedious few days.

>>186506440
It'll take you literally a day to do all that.

>>186505859
I've done it once. I had a glass cannon DPS build and killed him in about twenty seconds, he never changed phases.

>>186506083
Because you hate blues and want to watch them get raped by dark spirits

>>186506259
It's fun, don't let anyone tell you otherwise. Losing the true combo sucked, but it had to be done since you otherwise had a UGS that will kill any player from full health if you land an R1 at close range.

>>186506506
>Implying I am dedicated enough to the concept to do it all in one go

Fuck that

>>186506440
>few days
>when it takes 20 minutes to do with CE

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How well does the dragonslayer spear work without points in faith? I'm trying to get an ornstein going but I'm wondering if I should reroll

>Invade
>Blue spawns in front of me
>Absolutely refuses to fight me alone, chugs all his estus and dies to rollcatch dagger while attempting to catch up with host who is rushing through the level without fighting anything

Blues are truly despicable creatures. The entire covenant is basically people who want to pvp but are deathly afraid that they might actually have to be good at the game.

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>>186502990
that's not true tho

also
>muh minmaxed build that i went of of my way to make, following a guide on how to make the game easy, makes the game easy, wooooooooooooooooow

that's the beauty of das
it allows you to have fun in every way possible

>>186506784
Can't CE in estus items or ashes brah. I didn't avoid a softban this long by being a moron.

Of course I'm going to CE in all the items.

>>186506961
Maybe he just wants DMB and doesn't give a flying fuck about you or your pvp ''''''''''''''skill''''''''''''''

>>186507074
t. salty blue

>>186506854
barely any gains
go 27/40 and force-buff LB on it

>>186507047
Of course you can. Just turn off auto-save and don't spawn more than you can obtain in one playthrough.
t. someone who did that on 4 characters without getting b&

>>186507154
In 3? I thought 27/40 was dks 1

>>186506854
The Faith scaling is utter shit, you're literally getting less than 30 more points of Lightning damage by going from 10 to 40 Faith.

>>186506854
it's a quality spear, so go figure

>>186507193
you don't even have fth requirements. the spear just gains +33 lightning dmg at 40fth

>>186506961
>implying he's under any obligation to fight you "fairly" in an invasion
He was doing the right thing. If he wanted to participate in duelfaggotry he'd put down a Red Sign somewhere or use the Arena.

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>>186507193
26/40 is DS3. DS3 rounds up, DS1 rounds down.

>>186505859
velstadt looks buff
raime looks like some fedora-tipping edgelord's wet dream

reminds me of that "chad vs virgin" meme

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>>186507145
But I like bullying blues.

>>186507434
>26/40 is DS3. DS3 rounds up
No, you fucking retard. Stop repeating shit that other people say without checking it yourself, it's been proven repeatedly that it's still 27/40 in DaS3. You just stay at 26 since two-handing bonuses are most efficient with even numbers.

>>186507392
You wot m8

Are you really arguing that running away and getting rollcaught to death was the smart play?

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>>186505859
I had a long Fume Knight fight (was helping an host who was in NG+ lot it seemed) where he just never went into his second phase. I think he goes in his second phase if he isn't aggroing on someone, and since somebody was always hugging him he just kept on attacking
also, time for another "what kind of cosplay is this" episode
she summoned npcs for sinh, because feeva's 6 damage lightning spears are so useful
she also wouldn't heal at some point even though sinh wasn't aggroing on her, had to try to pop a token of fidelity but sinh didn't let me, she did heal eventually thankfully

>>186506961
I'm a blue who just wants shitters to be able to play in peace without getting bullied. I try to duel if I'm alone, but if another blue or host comes help me gank, sure thing, let's bully some reds.
I'm not very good at pvp though, but I feel like I'm still better than most other blues I see, somehow.

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>>186507434
dumbass

>>186507668
No, I'm arguing that his refusal to fight you 1 on 1 was the right thing to do. He just executed it poorly and was a shitter who got rollcaught.

Just as a red invader's job is to kill the host (or grief him enough to make him want to kill himself), a blue spirit's job is to keep the host alive by any means necessary. Yes, you can just fight the red and kill him, but when he has mobs on his side there's no reason not to pull out every advantage you can possibly get.

Besides, blues also get their Ears when the host enters the boss fog. If the host was just rushing to the end of the level in this case, then why risk losing out when you could instead join up with the host and escort him?

>>186507847
Doesn't take much. Knowing that there are other buttons than R1 is enough to be better than most blues.

>>186508029
Might have started off as the right choice, but it became the wrong choice somewhere between his second and third estus sip without making a single attack. Not even a turn and burn.

I'm a casting pyro and I'm wondering whether to transpose black serpent or wolnirs holy sword?
Which is better?
is black serpent a good spell? If it's good, I want to make it now so I can go through smouldering lake easier

>>186508326
He was probably in panic mode and not thinking clearly

>>186507693
>where he just never went into his second phase
He has a specific overhead smash attack that "warms up" his sword and if he never does it, he can't go into his second phase.

>>186508448
Black Serpent is a good spell. Wolnir's is a shit weapon for anything but Str-Fai builds.

If you want both, transpose the spell and ask someone here to drop you Wolnir's.

>attune Force for Pontiff's backyard invasions
>not expecting anything much of it, people won't fall for this meme
>on an 8 invasions win streak because dumb hosts fall for it when I'm using white branch

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poor royal swordsman

>>186508745
Force is OP in invasions in basically any level with verticality. Separates people, knocks dudes off cliffs, bloody wonderful.

>>186506259
It's a UGS, and probably one of the best ones. In the Top 3 most likely.
1HR2 has retardedly good tracking, 2HR2 used to combo of a 2HR1 if you did it right, but not anymore sadly. Still hits hard as shit though, but only really useful in PvE.
Also has both the vertical 2HR1 and the horizontal 1HR1, which is a bonus.
Weakest part is probably the WA, which is generic Stomp shit, which it shares with Fume.
As a PvE weapon, it's top tier (20% bonus damage against Demons, 1hits every low tier mob, 2hits higher tiers) but in PvP you'll probably struggle.

>>186508582
okay I just used this spell and it takes care of crowds really quickly. Why do people shit on it so much?

>>186509128
They don't.

Black Serpent is more a pvp thing though. It's damage is just average and you'd be better off using black flame or black fire orb for pve.

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>>186508852
Ragdolls in DaS2 could be pretty funny.

>>186506259
It's an ultra greatsword and on the low end of them. It has the vertical UGS moveset and is the shorter range of them on par with Cathedral Knight. It doesn't have thrusting R2s save on the 1H version which doesn't have as much range compared to regular thrusts. The damage is really good on a quality build but to maximize it you won't be able to poisestack as much compared to a 60 STR Greatsword/FUGS build. The WA is also the same as FUGS and blocks damage during attacks from the front but it doesn't stun people who hit so it's still worthless. And like every vertical UGS it has an R1>Jump Attack combo so you can at least do good damage if you ever do hit with it.

>>186509202
it takes down crowds really fast though

>tfw no enb

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>>186509210

>>186509341
l-lewd

>>186509341
You need to spoiler lewd stuff anon, we've been through this multiple times.

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Haven't played for three months.

What are the meme builds of the current time? Anything I need to watch out for?

>>186509635
Heavy Splitleaf is the main one to keep an eye on, really.

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I want to play a souls game but I played DS3 too many times it's not fun, I need to take a long break from it, DS1 bring some bitter memories back (unrelated to the game) and I'm not ready to go back yet and it's the same with DeS.

What are some really fun builds and weapons in DS2? Anything goes but I'm only interested in PvE.
Pic related is a Caestus -> Bone Fist I did last year.

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>>186509635

SPLITLEAF

CRUCIFIX

GAEL'S

PONTIFF KNIGHT CS

DARK LOTHRIC KNIGHT SWORD

BLACK
KNIGHT
SHIELD

EVERYTHING YOU COULD EVER WANT

kill me

>>186509693
Poison dex build with rapiers, or Warped Sword Powerstance

>>186509341
>Heide Knight doesn't skip leg day

>>186509693
Leo Ring Grand Lance with greatshield

>>186509693
Literally any build can be fun. Power-stancing, full Str, full Dex, the list goes on.

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Can I get the pros and cons of 27/40 vs 40/40? I use a BKS 2h and a Ringed Knight Straight Sword 1h. Will my straight sword damage be gimped if I reroll 27/40 and dump the saved points into health?

>>186510335
It will be lower when using it 1H which should be the main moveset you use with an SS anyway.

>>186509708
Claymore and Wolnirs need moved down

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what a beautiful heide knight

>>186510397
Why

>>186510440
It's nice to see bad cosplay present in DaS2 as well.

>>186510525
Because they are not on the same level as the other greatswords in that tier?

>>186510525
because he said so. do it.

>>186510593
Why. Wolnir's has good AR on a STR/FAI build and has the same range as Wolf Knight and Gael's Greatsword. Claymore has amazing AR on literally any build since the infusion changes and one of the best greatsword movesets.

>>186510397
Why though? Claymore is great. R2 poke, rolling poke, solid AR on any build you care to use it with, and tied 2nd for reach.

GS stance is merely okay, nothing spectacular but still adding versatility and utility, so it doesn't lose points there.

Wolnir's is a build specific GS, also with good reach, with a WA that can be useful in certain circumstances. Bastard Sword moveset is meh, but outside of that it's a good sword.

Both are greatswords and so get bonus points for that anyway.

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What do you guys think of my shit statue?

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Tell me your little lore theories and headcanons.

I like to believe Ludleth removed his own legs so that he wouldn't be tempted to abandon his responsibility like the other lords of cinder.

>>186510804
>with a WA that can be useful in certain circumstances.

Stop, the WA has literally no bearing on Wolnir's being as high as it is, it's a negative if anything. It's so fucking dreadful even after the buffs, shit damage for how long the animation it, the hyperarmor doesn't start until the sword is plunged into the ground, and there is no increase defenses during it unlike Morne's WA so it's a free hit of full damage by anyone even if you are hit during hyperarmor.

>>186510823
7/10 for effort, and the detail/colouring on the armour is pretty great, but you really need to work on your anatomy and I have no idea what is going on with the helme-

>Filename has his real name in it

You poor, misguided fool

>>186511008
It wasn't made by me, silly. That's the dude who made it.

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>>186510871
Not lore, but my miyazaki headcanon is that AC: For Answer was Miyazaki's prototype DS1 and it's a scene-for-scene copy for the story/lore

>>186510335
If your Vigor is at least 35, you're fine. The only other thing to watch out for is your Endurance if you ever intend to use ultras.

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>>186510823
it's meh

>>186511098
Well sucks for him I guess, I just subscribed him to a laundry list of porn sites

>>186511279
are they good porn sites at least ?

>>186510335

27/40 isn't that good in DaS3, because of how strong one handed attacks are in comparison. Critical attacks are based on your one handed AR even if you're two handing.

>>186511372
Nope. The worst.

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>>186509786
>>186510078
Thanks, will take a look at that.

>>186510110
I know almost everything is viable, but that doesn't mean it's fun.

>>186509210
Indeed. I just made this webm with footage I had laying around for a long time.

>>186511542
Poor guy.

>>186510871
I like to believe the dumbass invader that thought I'd follow him across the rope bridge was only thinking stupid because he's gone hollow.

>>186507469
Velstadt even has a triangular gold helm, like Chad's hair.

It's pottery.

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>>186507469
>>186511981
BETA ORBITER

>join the sunlight covenant
>never used a miracle in my life

>>186512542
SUNBROS ARE FAGS

>>186507469
>>186511981
velstadt is weaker though. He's easier to beat

>>186512629
It must be lonely watching others work together and have fun.

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>>186512629
(((Sun"""bros"""))) are fag enablers
>>186512656
Velstadt beat the shit out of Raime

>>186512434
Well, I mean, Nadalia is a bunch of barely sapient spooky fire statues at this point so that's hardly fair.

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>>186512761
Fuck you, get down in my maze and say that to my face, you punk ass bitch.

>>186512761
I fill the void with the anguish of co-opfags.

>>186512808
>Velstadt beat the shit out of Raime
that was before he got the fume sword

>>186512629
>>186512808
>>186513007
>>186513052
>no friends in real life
>no friends in the games they play to escape said lonely life

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>tfw I invade as a Mad Dark Spirit and kill two Blues and a Rosaria's Finger to get muh shackles and the host is left standing there wondering what the fuck happened.

Mound Makers are the best fucking Covenant.

>>186512656
Velstadt is much weaker when we fight him then when he was in his prime, he's been hollowed out, and Raime is suped up on Nadlia's dark magic, making him much stronger

Plus according to the lore Velstadt kicked he shit out of Raime and exiled his ass

>>186513685
>if they like invading means they are sad fucks irl
I just don't enjoy coop nearly as much as kicking the crutches from casuals

>>186511000
Okay, so let's go through all GS weapon arts
>Gael's GS - lmao super duper combo
>BKS - perseverance fucks over ultras
>WKGS - spin is meh and the jump is pretty much pointless with wonky stun that rarely works and long ass recovery frames
>onyx blade - fire damage buff makes it 3 way split, can combo from R1
>standard GS stance - R1 never lands, R2 only lands if you're lucky, has no damage reduction, a literal downgrade to SS stance
>GSoJ - R1 is only useful for buffing, R2 shoots beams into the ground, unless you aim it unlocked
>Wolnir's HS - too slow to ever be useful
>MLGS - really good for trading with ultras, because of high poise health and dealing poise damage two times
>TPGS - beams are good for bullying, but can be easily dodged, fire attack is only good for trading
>Bastard Sword - uppercut stomp, now with zero range and less poise health
>Exec GS - spin stomp, literally the worst version of it
>Firelink GS - drake sword like attack, if you don't free aim it never lands
>Storm Ruler - no greatwoods in pvp
So outside of Gael's, BKS, MLGS and TPGS all you get are pretty much shitty WAs that go from utterly useless to somewhat useful.

>>186513720
he's stronger. The dark makes em all stronger

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>>186513956
>standard GS stance - R1 never lands, R2 only lands if you're lucky, has no damage reduction, a literal downgrade to SS stance

Don't forget the R2 doesn't count as thrust damage unlike the SS Stance R2.

Is DS3 Crystal Souls Spear trash? It feels pretty weak for the amount of FP it consumes

>>186514324
Yes, for PvE Great Heavy Soul Arrow is tons better in terms of FP to damage ratio. CSS is only good for going for one shot memes with stacking magic buffs against people who aren't looking.

>>186514324
>Magic in DaS3
Take a wild guess.

>>186514324
Yes, just use Great heavy soul arrow if you want a "nuke"

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>>186514160
>SS stance moves you a fucking mile
>GS stance takes like 3 steps forward
fuck you tanimura

>>186514468
>>186514405
>Great Heavy Soul Arrow
Is that really the only good offensive spell for PvE?
That's so wack.

>>186514563
It's the best against bosses by a mile save for Pestilent Mercury against Midir.

>>186514160
Why the fuck does SS stance even have damage reduction when STOMP doesn't?
And some people argue SS stance isn't the best WA in the game.
>>186514563
If you want to use good nukes go pyro and chuck vestigies

>>186514628
>Pestilent Mercury against Midir.
That boss is coming up for me actually, what's the deal with that? I want to try it.

>>186512808
Why did Velstadt and Raime fight again? I can't remember

>>186514563
Well, magic is shit in DaS3, with the exception of Pestilent Mercury cheese against certain Bosses.
They really limited what you could do, even though they had a good Magic template to go from which they had from DaS2.

I just don't know man.. How does a company fuck up so hard, on multiple levels.

>>186514697
Stomp does have damage reduction actually but only on the starting L2 portion, not on the full swing.

There's a weird discrepancy with damage reduction on WAs, SS Stance R2 is one of the few popular WAs that has it. Meanwhile barely any unique WAs have it aside from the Greatsword of Judgment WAR1.

>>186514731
Midir has a large HP pool and only takes full damage from the head which can be hard to hit with spells. Mercury however does consistent percent tick damage of health against whatever it touches so it melts him so long as you keep rolling around and recasting it when need be.

>>186514731
>%Max HP as Damage pr. 0.5 Second
It's bonkers, absolutely bonkers.
You place a little cloud infront of yourself, waltz around the target to keep them in the cloud, see them melt.

Just reminder, it's friendly fire. Yes,
I tested it on phantoms I summoned to my world. To this date, I still don't regret it.

>>186514731
His hitbox is so big PM is basically always doing damage. It's kind of a gimmick tactic, I actually had better success with Lightning Arrow and Sunlight Spear. Also LA and SS are better for Hypermode setups.

>>186514748
Raime recognized Nashandra for the darkie she is and wanted to purge. Vendrick couldn't stop lusting over his sweet 'Shandra and Velly was loyal to them both, so he confronted Raime, kicked his ass and forced him to leave. Or something along those lines

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>>186514697
Same reason katana hold has damage reduction.
>miss a parry
>still take half the damage
JUST

>>186514880
>>Just reminder, it's friendly fire. Yes,

Funny thing is that you can't damage hosts or other phantoms with it when you use it as a phantom yourself.

>>186515114
I fucked up a sentence, no bully please.
>Funny thing is that you can't damage hosts or other phantoms with it when you use it as a phantom yourself.
NIPPON SPAGHETTI CODE.

>>186515014
>tfw opponent survived a crystal soul spear by failing to parry it with a katana

Meme Makers > Aldric's Faithful > Spear of the Church > Waifus Fingers > Blades of the Darkmoon > Ubisoft game everyone already forgot about because of how low level their zone is > Blue Faggots > Way of Git Gud > Enablers

How are the dark projectiles in DaS3? I know dark bead got a nerf in 2 compared to the original but are the 3 versions of the projectiles pvp viable?

>>186515836
No, they suck

>>186515836
Dark is just another flavor of Magic that also sucks because of how spread out everything is. The only way it's ever good is if you use the Dark Pyromancies, which is only because (1) you already have the best stats to cast them by going Pyromancer, and (2) you don't need to equip any more rings than the ones that boost Pyromancies.

Could someone on PS4 drop me a Morion blade?

>>186517259
>PS4
try /bbg/

Old King Allant looks like a fucking weeabo anime character reject

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>>186517652
>le PC cheat engine mustard race
Suck a shotgun

>>186517259
I'm on the PS4 but I don't have the Moron blade on any of my characters. If I did I would give you one.

>>186517259
Sorry lad, I gave his ashes to the Handmaid to get his coat

>>186518298
You do know that you can buy his coat from the Shrine Handmaid once you pick up the ashes, right? Giving her the ashes only unlocks any unsold spells he may have had on death, which is utterly useless if you've completed his quest by killing Homoprinces.

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>when the Demon Prince does his really powerful laser attack and you dodge but then fires just one more straight laser at you
God, it's just so fucking dirty and disgusting.
Even when it doesn't kill me, I just feel offended by it.

Why did they introduce quickstepping and ringed knight weapons?

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>>186518046

> a literally triggered peasant

>>186514974
Ah right, thanks anon. I remember now. Velstadt truly is a massive cuck then, I take back what I said about him being a Chad.

>>186514974
The only problem I have with that theory is that Raime then went and cucksucked Nashandra's sister.

>>186514974
>>186519351
Pretty sure it's the other way around because >>186519521 and Velstadt stayed protecting Vendrick when he exiled himself to prevent Nashandra from getting his soul.

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>>186519521
Nashandra's sister was cucked anyway because the Old Iron King was too busy fucking Sir Alonne in the ass.

wtf is the boreal valley?

>>186520761
A valley that has a boreal climate pattern.

>>186520761
Irithyll.
It was used to be called the "Frigid Valley" but they changed it due to some reason.

>>186520895
is irithyll a cold place so fire causes damage to the enemies there?

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Thoughts on my Hexer build?

>>186521075
feeble/10

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why is das3 so shit

>>186521075
>hexer
>doesn't look like an evil jew stereotype or edgy anime character

Those are the best hexers.

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>>186522028
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>>186521075
Zero reason to go over 30/30, Spice down what you need.

>that Adaptability
Shit son, the fuck are you doing.

>>186521965
because you're a petty nitpicker

>>186492441
>an invader using Collector's Edition can permanently fuck up your save data
What?

>>186521965
>Can't unsee

>>186522359
>floaty jerky garbage movement
>"nitpicking"

>>186522327
If you need more than 90 Agility, you're bad at the game

>>186522434
yes, its nitpicky because it doesnt matter
the movement is perfectly fine

>>186522374
An invader using Cheat Engine can screw up your save data, meaning: causing you to get a ban if you don't have backups and remember to delete the save after being invaded by such a person.

>>186521075
It's shit
You have enough stats at SL126 to have decent HP, stamina, ADP and maybe even some dex, and you choose to have none of these things.

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>>186522517

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>>186522327
It was supposed to be a hyper mode hexer. I just kept increasing the corresponding stats. I'll stop at 60 to get a fifth orb when casting Affinity.
Since I usually fight at range, I don't need iframes that much to dodge.

>>186522580
I won't deny it. Yet I abandoned this character because everything was too easy.
I maxed rank with the bell covenant and I don't think I died once.

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Made a new low sl dex build. I think I'll level him up to 30 maybe 35 at the most but he keep here as he is for a bit so I can keep invading high wall. Now I just need to decide a good.weapon to use one of my fire gems on.and a find some evangelican trousers since they look allot like sweat pants with timberlands painted black.

does wind wheel on the splitleaf greatsword really cost 0 fp?

wtf