Dueling Network General - /dng/

>>186394613
If it had a hard OPT, it would be fair. It and DMG are the only Toons that can attack the turn they're summoned anyways, and one-card 3-mat R4 isn't really too strong with Shock Master banned.

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1st for best loli

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[Update log]
"Added 'Pendulum Paradox'
"-by EerieCode"
Oh no.

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I might watch Arc-V even though I've read from many that it ultimately ends up being shit.

>>186394917
Isn't Beatrice also a VJump promo over there?

>>186395210
I don't understand this meme.

>>186395210
What's the issue?

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Yugi a breast.

>>186395210
T-Minus three months till Chinkpro updates with it

>>186395280
It starts awful, gets good, and then gets shit again.

>>186395206
>If it had a hard OPT, it would be fair
Most monster cards that summon from the deck are hard OPT. Your idea is shit and your balancing is worse.

>>186395316
>>186395318
Pendulum isn't dead on Percy because Percy isn't in a Links format, which means what should be T2 is now fucking broken.

>>186395428
>imaginary format isn't good
no shit

>>186395428
Cards stay in beta forever you retarded duel links shitter. And it's a salvage for pendulums hardly the most game breaking thing.

>>186395416
It's not my idea, though. Stop projecting.
Another option would just making it on Normal Summon.

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>>186394917
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Proxy Dragon sounds pretty OP, its effect doesn't look like it can be chained to, so it can "negate" pretty much every good card out there that destroys spells/traps/monsters.

>>186395826
go back to r/yugioh

>>186395720
then do it yourself you lazy cunt

I really don't get why Konami has invested so much into duel links and it's butchered format when they could have just copied YGOPro. I'm really jealous of the Pokemon TCG in that regard, I think Nintendo handled that very well.

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>>186395826
yo

>>186395826
I would agree with you if it's arrows pointed FUCKING DOWN.

>>186394917
>new subterror card
No fucking way it is re-
>it is
Holy fucking shit
Last night I dreamed that another level 4 Subterror was released and it looked more like a behemoth than anything else
I bet's it's a Flip monster that also has a on-summon or activated effect a la Symphonic Warrior Synthess

>>186396096
>generic link-2 with down arrow that can even use token
maybe after link-8

>>186396096
>can use tokens for effect
>can 'negate' any card that destroys at the cost of one monster
>its effect can't start chains, so opponent has to wait for shit to resolve before responding, then proxy dragon can just use its other monster as cost to 'negate' yet another card

sounds pretty good to me

>>186395950
Maybe it could be done if your retarded no job having, dick breath smelling, doritos eating lard ass wasn't on 4chan 24/7.

>>186396440
but i'm at work anon

>>186396439
You're missing the part where you need to summon another link first for it's effect to matter.

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>it's a "60 card Paleo deck player opens everything he needs every single time" episode

>>186396096
Well, it just requieres two monsters, right? You could make it with Gofu.
Put a Link Spider in the Extra Deck Zone and then make Proxy Dragon below it. I guess it's not bad if you consider that as a lot of cards do not Target this days. I'm not sure if I would prefer it over Decode, but it's also true that preferring it over Decode saves you a slot in your Extra Deck if you use Gofu since you won't need two Link spiders.

>>186397101
>preferring it over Decode saves you a slot in your Extra Deck if you use Gofu since you won't need two Link spiders.
You link the two token into Proxy, then summon Decode.

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The biggest problem with Links is just fucking getting rid of your previous Extra Deck monster. I'd take a generic 1+ Monsters Link that immediately returns itself to the extra deck over Akashic Magician or vertical Proxy Dragon any day.

>Use metalfoes for counter gen in spell counter
>get 30 counters on citadel
>Can't spend a single one because I didn't draw into any of my spellcasters
Hmmm I hope they fix that.

>>186397181
With what monsters?

>>186396439
good, yeah, but not game-breaking or anything
it being a generic link-2 also paves way for many (pet)deck to actually function even though it doesn't have any bottom marker
abc case in point

but that's it
cotd and cibr is filled with cards like this, good, but not good enough to be broken

>>186397389
Gofu
Proxy fulfill the role of 2 Link Spider

>>186397101
In a game where there are hundreds of cards your opponent can chain with in response to a card that negates+destroys an activated effect, I would much prefer Proxy Dragon over Decode.

They both pretty much accomplish the same shit, yes. But at least with Proxy dragon you're basically guaranteed that your cards are safe from at most 2 cards with effects that tried to destroy your cards.

>>186397471
I feel like once there is a good boss Link monster that can make it easier to summon proxy dragon along with it, Proxy Dragon will become a staple for many Link-based decks.

>>186397247
You're gonna get links that perform the same functions as the top tier "generics" of other extra deck types. It's a way to push the mechanic without forcing everything to be 1 card links.

>>186397653
>Proxy Dragon will become a staple for many Link-based decks.
It already is.

>>186397752
That's due to how easy she is to summon. It's not like ABC summons her to use her effect.

Reminder that Proxy can't 'negate' Dark Hole

>>186397948
You're right, ABC is too busy using Destrudo to make Black Roses and Fairy Dragons.

>>186397948
>She
>Her

>>186398238
But ABC always make Proxy after making AFD

>>186398052
explain

>>186398402
Shi En ruling.
Can't redirect destruction to card that would be destroyed by said destruction.

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I don't get it. Why did everyone go from their two Gofu Tokens to Double Spider in the beginning? I get Mythic Spirals or Mecha Phantom Beast needing to convert just one token, but Gofu ALWAYS summons two. Spider and Proxy were even released at the same time. Was everyone afraid of Master Peace destroying one of their tokens or something? Shit doesn't make sense.

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>>186398635
>Spider and Proxy were even released at the same time

>>186398635
Because Decode needs effect monsters. Can't use the tokens for Decode.

>>186398679
You mean previews and OCG? They both came out in Code of the Duelist, right?

>>186398852
Here's a hint, anon.
COTD doesn't have either of them.

>>186399006
I mean the link starter thing. I bought it when it came out and it also had Honeybot.

>>186399126
>Spider and Proxy were even released at the same time
>Spider
>Proxy

>>186399126
Oh yeah, but did you find any Proxy?
Here's another hint.
Proxy still isn't released here in TCG.

>>186399204
oh, shit. I just got rekt

>Just got all the cards for Tellar, BA and Evilswarm for $30
I love you MR4. Metalfoes can all be picked up for like $7 right now too.

>>186399657
I've debated picking up Dolls. You can get everything for like $30.

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>tmw you want to make a deck based around Eccentric Archfiend but you dont even know where to start

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>>186398754

>>186399978
>a deck based around Eccentric Archfiend
>a deck based around an MST alternative in Pendulum decks
Wut

>>186399978
This is me when making any deck that doesn't center around an archetype that's easy to put together.

There's so many ways to create a deck that it's overwhelming.

>>186399990
Did you guys just deliberately forgetting that you can Link Decode using a Link-2 and a monster or something?

>>186400461
>Decode as 1 link material and another monster

are you stupid

>>186400563
The hell are you talking about?
Use that fucking Proxy as link material.

>>186400726
>proxy dragon as 1 link material and another monster
>still two materials
>need 3 for decode

>>186400850
>proxy dragon as 1 link material
PROXY DRAGON AS LINK-2 YOU DUMBASS RETARD

>>186400930
I know Proxy dragon is a Link-2 monster you fucking mongoloid.

But if you want to summon Decode, you need 3 effect monsters.

>>186400991
oh you

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>tfw duel against ojama deck

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>>186400991
>3 effect monsters
READ NIGGA
READ

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>>186400991

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>>186400991
You know what need rhymes with
READ

>>186401176
>>186401259
Of fucking course you need more than 2 effect monsters, but to satisfy Decode's Link rating of 3 you need 3 effect monsters.

It's basic math, you need three monsters. The requirement says you need more than two hence the 2+. Konami just wanted to make it clear that under no circumstances should you summon Decode unless you have more than 2 effect monsters and that you can satisfy Decode's Link rating of 3.

Everyone and their grandmothers should know this by now if they had just read the rules on Link summoning

>>186401493
>if they had just read the rules on Link summoning
AND IF YOU FUCKING READ IT YOU KNOW THAT A FUCKING LINK MONSTER CAN BE TREATED AS N LINK MATERIAL ACCORDING TO ITS LINK RATING
YOU FUCKING DUMBASS
READ THE RULEBOOK

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>>186400461
I was trying to illustrate that meming up the summoning process.

less ambiguous v2 with a different joke

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>>186401493
READ NIGGA
READ

>>186401493
are you retarded and illiterate?

>>186401619
I did read the rulebook, and Proxy dragon only counts as one link material.

you need more than 2 effect monsters, even if Proxy Dragon """counts""" as 2 link materials you still need more than 2 effect monsters. As far as I'm aware, Proxy dragon is just one effect monster, so you need two more to satisfy Decode's requirement for more than 2 effect monsters.

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>>186400195
Well more specifically a MST and a Smashing Ground

>>186400212
Nah for me its just that I suck at making decks

>>186401493
Oh I get it, it's bait.

>>186401917
2+ means two or more

>>186401917
READ THAT SHIT >>186401780

GOFU IS A FUCKING EFFECT MONSTER

>>186402009
if it was two or more than it would say 2 or +, but instead it just says 2+

You should know by now how strict the wording is in YGO

>>186401917
>Proxy dragon only counts as one link material.
PROXY IS A LINK-2 YOU MONGOLOID

>>186401980
>Nah for me its just that I suck at making decks

Same here. Don't really know all of my options.

>>186402138
No, its already been shown and its stated that for link monsters 2+ means at 2 or more, 3+ means 3 or more and all that stuff.

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>>186402138
heh

Oh my God, a new Infernity monster.

>>186401917
Either this guy is being serious or you guys are being baited super fucking hard.

>>186402239
Such is the life of scrubs

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>>186402138
It's new notation, dingus. No more "or more" in summoning conditions.

>>186402343
...patriarch?

>>186402464
No, it was OP picture before I read.

>>186402571
What?

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>>186402571

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>>186401691

>>186402705
>>186402664
he thought the new subterror was a infernity monster

I swear /dng/ is going full retard today

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>>186400991
>>186401493
>>186401917
>>186402138
>Shitter hour
Oh boy, I'm just in time to see my favorite show

>>186402840
>He fucks up
>calls other people retards
I love this episode

>>186402949
>He fucks up
I'm a different guy but I actually know how to read and infer meaning behind peoples words

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why is everyone so rude in this thread

>>186403282

You're on 4chan, what did you expect?

>>186402239
>Name your goal (getting certain cards out, accomplishing one task that will win you your duels)
>choose your key cards
>throw in cards that supports your key cards and also supports your win condition
>add multiples of key cards if you are able
>run multiples of search cards if you are adding them
>don't add in cards that does not facilitate in getting you closer to your win condition (no defensive spell/trap cards in a deck that is focused around summoning a shit ton of monsters to overwhelm your opponent, no cards that don't help in getting your opponent to deck out in a deck specifically focused around getting a deck-out win, no cards that exclusively is used to get your cards from your GY back to your deck in a deck around having cards in your graveyard, etc.)
>run singles of cards that are situational but beneficial, or a card that you can easily search and recycle from the GY
>keep your deck as close to 40 as possible, unless there is a card you can run multiples of that does nothing but greatly benefit your deck, and your 40 card deck absolutely requires all the cards you already put into it.

fucking done what's so fucking hard about this?

Why did Star Seraph Sovereignty shoot up in price? It was $5 for months and now it's $7-8

>>186403282
>Stealing the epic pic I found on Google search
Anon you're supposed to shout "INTO THE VRAINS!" when you post that.

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>>186403572

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>>186403046
>Card was posted last thread
>Card art looks completely different from most Infernitys
>Thinking an Infernity monster would be earth

>>186403761
Once again, i'm not the guy who posted that he thought it was an infernity monster and my first thought when I saw subterror was that it reminded me of a batman comic.

Learn how to read

>>186400461
Ah, I did forget. You're right.

I thought it looked like a Kaiju 2 bee truly myself

>>186403868
I know you're a different guy but you decided to defend the first guy so I replied to you

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>>186403561
Dunno.
Maybe some youtuber hyping up Venus Cyber Seraph or something.
Or maybe because they thought it would works well with the new fairy sd.

Why is the Neo Spacian archetype so fucking weird? It's all like random effects with no synergy with each other.

>>186404206
It's almost like GX is known for having the worst pack filler of any series.

>>186404206
anime specific

>>186404110
>defend the first guy
learn how to read, nigga

>>186404206
Because the creators at the time thought that being able to Fusion Summon without Polymerizaion was way too strong, so the cards and archetype have ridiculously bizarre limiters on them. Less than a year later, they released Gladiator Beasts, which won Worlds.

>>186404568
Read what, sperglord? No-one knows what the fuck you're talking about.

But it really looks like an Infernity, only needs a cowboy hat.

>>186404928
see? you can't read
reading is more than understanding what a combination of letter means

>>186404568
But you did defend the first guy

>>186403046
>I'm a different guy but I actually know how to read and infer meaning behind peoples words
So what did you mean by that? If you wasn't defending him or anything then why respond?

>>186404928
Did you read my post? I wrote "talking" not "dictating". It was a nigger joke mocking your accent. You have even worse reading comprehension than the last guy. I bet you download character guides when you read classic novels.

>>186405236
oh dear, do you really need explanation for that shit?
you can attack one side without defending the other, anon

maybe you should check for autism

>there are people
>in this world
>RIGHT FUCKING NOW
>that don't run Gagaga Cowboy
Fucking shitters.

>>186404206
>Takahashi personally created, among other monsters, "Dark Magician", the "Elemental Heroes", "Junk Synchron", "Stardust Dragon", "Red Dragon Archfiend", and "Number 39: Utopia".
Basically Takahashi doesn't know how to play his own game competitively and all his attempts at making an archtype are literal jokes.

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Want to pick up some Mega Tins but two questions. Since I'm only getting two Desires, is that enough or should I get the third one? Is it worth paying $35 for two tins online then wait until it releases for them to ship when I can go to walmart and pay $40 and get it same day?

>>186406193
Desires is going to be a buck at most after the tins come out. So just buy them as singles. The tins this year suck. I wouldn't waste money on them.

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>>186405232
INTO ZA BURAINZU

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>>186406193
>Running Desires

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>>186406724
>not having the Heart of the Cards so you can banish what you don't need and draw what you do

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>>186406410
I dunno man, the secrets list is very tempting

TCG Mega Tin 2017 ( Release 24-25 August 2017)

Secret Rares 15/15

Zoodiac Broadbull

Zoodiac Drident

Zoodiac Barrage

Dark Magical Circle

Magicians Navigation

>Toadally Awesome

>Cosmic Cyclone

>Ghost Reapre & Winter Cherries

>Foolish Burial Goods

>Dimensional Barrier

Blue-Eyes Twin Burst Dragon

Sea Monster of Theseus

>Drowning Mirror Force

Full Force Virus
>Starving Venom Fusion Dragon

Source : Mike San from BBS

>>186405989
what did he mean by this?

>>186406820
>>186406410

Any news on longdong?

>>186406820
>Zoodiac Broadbull
>Zoodiac Drident
getting banned. Not the first time they shilled cards like this before axing them this.

Everything else is ok.

>>186406796
Tell that to the guys that fucked themselves using Desires at Worlds.

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>>186406724
>Playing Desires anyway because you love the risk

>>186406026
But aren't Junk Synchron, Stardust Dragon, Red Dragon Archfiend, and Number 39: Utopia good?

>>186406820
Zoo is going to get nuked. No secret is going to be over $10 on the after market so why buy a tin for them? Most Zoo stuff is already really cheap now anyway. Cosmic Cyclone is being reprinted in a structure. Starve Venom is being reprinted in the Legendary Decks. D Barrier is useless these days. The only good secrets are Cherries, The Dark Magician and Blue-Eye stuff. The Mirror Force too but since the others all got reprinted I'd expect it in a structure soon.

>>186406960
No one's pulled it. No Spyrals, Subterrors or Windwitches either. Buy your Agents now if you have vague interest in Spyrals in CIBR

>>186407075
Yeah, this is actually a really nice tin so far. Knowing my luck,I'll pull the Zoos, Twin Burst and DM cards as my secrets though

Do you guys think needle ceiling is going to be meta again?

>>186407301
Their archtypes are hot dogshit.

>>186407140
>All those banished MP's with desires

WHAT I LEARNED FROM WORLDS 2017
-Chain Burn is actually good and will sack you out
-Aleister and Ice Bell are OTP
-Pot of Desires is a garbage card that should be treated like upstart goblin
-Shunsuke is a garbage player
-Duel Links has a stupidly faster pace than current format on the card game, and despite this people say Duel Links is better because its slower than the card game
-Billy "I gave them two nukes but they gave me two scoops" Brake and the rest of the USA competitors choking day 1 except for the pimp that brought ABC's ON DRAGON DUELS.

>>186406026
>creator almost kills his own card game.

>>186407650
But did Takahashi designed the archetypes though?

>>186407573
You mean like how Ground Collapse and Spatial Collapse are the secret meta now? All Needle Ceiling does is allow your opponent to float into better cards because it's a destruction effect. It's better to put cards that give you advantage into your deck.

>>186407690
>ignoring Haru Urara being best handtrap

>>186407690
>that should be treated like upstart goblin
The difference here is Upstart is actually a decent choice in some decks.

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>>186407920
>allow your opponent to float into better cards because it's a destruction effect
you rang?

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>>186407967
>Upstart is actually a decent choice in some decks.
>implying Desires isn't a decent choice for every deck

>>186407963
I didn't need worlds to learn that Ashie is a degenerate bitch beyond belief

>>186408104
>>implying Desires isn't a decent choice for every deck
Desires is a shit card that baits shit players because "MUH +1 THO".

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>>186408476
>it's a "shit duelist blames the card instead of his deck building skills" episode

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>>186407340
Sometimes it's fun to open product Anon. Cosmic Cyclone and D Barrier aren't getting reprinted until November 3 months from now and in commons instead of secrets. Secrets are sexier. Starve Venom will be alt art in the Decks and it doesn't come for like two months. Also in Ultra and not the sexy Secret.

I see your point, but I still think these Tins are gonna be one of the better ones

>>186408476
>Desires is a shit card
it isn't but it's a card used in desperation or to fully lock boards.

>>186407075
Are they doing much in TCG post-Links? Zoo seems terrible when it comes to spamming main deck monsters for Links. The basic Speedroids/Predaplants into Invoker+Molmorat start doesn't even work given Invoker now prevents you from summoning from the extra deck. You can't even waste all your resources for Decode Talker and end turn.

>>186396026
>friend used twin twister
>decode eff, negated
>flipped a quaking mf on him

DECODO ENDO

>>186408859
>Zoo seems terrible when it comes to spamming main deck monsters for Links
they very much work near perfectly with links to the disbelief of most.

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Pic related gets printed. What do?

>>186408597
>HE CALLED ME SHIT
>I GOTTA POST AND CALL HIM SHIT INSTEAD! I'LL EVEN ATTACH A SMUG PIC OF A SHOTA EATING CANDY, THAT'LL SHOW HIM!

>>186408619
See now this is more constructive. Frankly I have to disagree, with shit like 5head running around, and banishing combo pieces prior to your draw being an ever looming threat, I cannot ever justify running Desires, desperation or otherwise. If you are in a position where your board is strong and Desires just let's you add more to it, that makes it winmore. Plainly put, you have better options in any deck. SAFER options.

>>186408085
>Blue Lightning
>Spell Card
>Banish all monsters on your opponents side of the field

Would this sell any sets?

>>186408996
You would need at least two Link monsters as of right now to accomplish this.
Meaning I think this could realistically be printed and still not be used.

>>186408996
I dislike cards that ask for dumbshit requirements so by all means, print it and lower your deck consistency.

>>186409070
Only after Medium-sized Trunade shakes the meta with returning all Spell/Trap cards your opponent controls to the hand.

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>he plays Pot of -9

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>>186409365
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>-9

>>186409514
Just because it's a +1 in math doesn't make it fucking good. If you banish all your combo pieces or wincons you effectively fuck yourself. Like people did at Worlds.

Or, if they 5head you, you just fucking risk breaking your deck for NOTHING.

>>186408996
Laugh in Yang Zing Dinos

>>186409365
>9
>faiz
>Kusaka
>TVN
ya got a month to go there

>>186409514
Not him but two problems with that post:
Ash didn't exist back then
and
Not having access to combo pieces can lose you the game (ie Worlds player trying to search Alister only to find they had all been banished)

A +1 is only good as what that +1 gets you, and Desires can make it so that it gets you nothing.

>>186409680
So what you're saying is that you're building decks where only certain cards are good, and if they were lost you would lose? How is that reflect badly on a card that shines in decks where EVERY card is good on its own? That's just a result of you being a shit builder. Even if you mill your deck for 10, you just increased the chances of you drawing other good stuff instead of other good stuff, provided you're not playing Charmers or ABC or some other stupid shit.

>>186409680

>If you banish all your combo pieces or wincons you effectively fuck yourself.

that's why nobody uses it if you're using a deck that relies on one-ofs

>>186409918
>Play desires
>Banish 10
>Draw a searcher for something
>All search targets are banished
???

>>186410035
>use searcher as discard cost for Mask Change II or TT
WOW DEAD CARD LOL SHIT POT LMAO

>>186409680
>>186409815
>>186410035

That's like saying engines are bad because you could draw into your garnet. The chance of you fucking yourself over is so small that that the advantage the card gives you outweighs it.

Desires its a bad card, retards.

For fucks sake, /dng/

>this commonly-used generic staple is actually bad!
>no i haven't topped anything bigger than my locals but I totally know better than people actually topping events

>>186410202
But people aren't running brifu either...

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>>186409040
>Frankly I have to disagree, with shit like 5head running around, and banishing combo pieces prior to your draw being an ever looming threat

No, i agree with you that desires drops in power with 5head roaming around at 3, so if you are playing it it's best to bait it out by other means. In the TCG we have so few draw options so it's even worse for us. I'm actually hoping they unlimit upstart, i know they do it sometimes to push archetypes so maybe magibullets have a chance to be functional over here.

I like how the deck plays in theory but holy fuck, we barely have anything to move along plays if upstart isn't unlimited when we do eventually get it

>ib4 just run toon table of contents fags
>inb4 just run bamboo draw fags
>inb4 double summon fags

WHY THE FUCK DOES TCG HATE DRAW POWER

>>186410202
The chance of you fucking yourself over are far smaller with garnet than they are with desires, though. You can argue about whether or not taking those odds is worth it, but you can't debate basic math.

>>186410339
The people topping Worlds aren't running Desires either lol

>>186410202
You are literally vanishing more than 1/4 of your remaining deck. That isn't a "small" chance.

>>186410339
Literally everyone who used the thing at Worlds either got FUCKED by 5head or banished shit they needed.

>people at Worlds used Desires in a deck with important searches, on Turn 1, before their searches could proc off the opponent
>when they had no Rudra, 1 Diagram and 1 MP
>when literally everyone mained Ash
>people now insisting it's bad
Hope y'all are baiting.

>A bloo bloo but you can search first then activate Desires so you don't lose anything.
I'm going to end the topic by just saying that going for what happened in Worlds
-Ash blossom negating pot of desires is literally losing ten cards in vain, you do NOT get any cards at all and if you're playing important one of's that are LIMITED (master peace and whatever staple you're running like raigeki or kaiju slumber)
-You can draw desires off desires and since the thing is hard OPT, you're getting one useless card and the other card might not save you from game
-If your deck is consistent enough to get searches every turn (including the opponent's turn), why would you play Desires anyways?

Hell, in fact, with Demise True draco, why the fuck would you play desires when card of demise gives you MORE cards by restricting you from something you don't do at all, seriously, in early 2016, its cool that you could draw 2 by just giving up 10 cards you won't draw or search into but now that we have ash blossom, using Desires is suicide and as much as i'd love to see Ash blossom banned, she's not getting banned which makes everything worse for everyone.

>>186410546

>Literally everyone who used the thing at Worlds

you mean everyone who had their matches streamed? so basically a small amount of the matches played it backfired.

>if your opponent has 1 specific card in their hand and you happen to banish 3 copies of the same card then this card is bad
>so that means you should never run it

no wonder none of you have ever topped a major event

>>186410472
TCG hates fun. It's why Towers, CED, Stratos, Witch, Releaser, Morphing Jars 1 and 2, Shurit, Cyber-Stein, Exciton, Zenmaity, Feather Duster, Avarice, Card Destruction, Reborn, Super Rejuvenation, Wavering Eyes, Super Poly, GATEWAY OF THE FUCKING SIX, Kaiser Colosseum, FUCKING CHICKEN GAME, Self-Destruct Button, Vanity's, and Judgment are all banned here, while in Japan they're A-OK.

>>186410713
You can't know the other ones played it to success anymore than I could know they fucked themselves. All we know is the ones we SAW got FUCKED.

>>186410897
Oh and I'm guessing you have? Fuck off. You're just as bad as the rest of us, otherwise you wouldn't be here.

>>186410631
>when literally everyone mained Ash
Why would you be running desires when you know this would be the outcome? people were already cautious of desires before ash but now ash is straight up saying FUCK YOUR ELEVEN CARDS NIGGA FUCK YOUR COUCH.

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>>186410524
>The chance of you fucking yourself over are far smaller with garnet than they are with desires, though
Well, what fucking yourself over with Desires means changes depends on the deck, but it certainly not as high as you'd think.

>>186410986
>defending Exciton, Chicken Game, and other such bullshit

>>186411048

>Oh and I'm guessing you have?

you know, you could easily look at demise draco lists topping and see that they run desires. zoodiac top lists were also running it after norden and terrortop got fucked.

>>186411225
>wahhhh cards that give my opponent advantage when im dominating are bad wahhhh
Go winmoar somewhere else turd, you're the ADHD piece of shit ruining this game.

>>186410524

Would you like to show me this math?

>>186411225
>Still salty over Exciton
Exciton can and should go to 3. Git gud.

>>186411225
>wahh i want maxx c banned

>>186411331
>implying Chicken Game isn't a card that solely exists to make degenerate combos and FTK's possible
Opinion discarded.

>>186411225
>Chicken game on the same level as exction
where did the tank touch you?

>>186410472
>webm
his fucking fault for not fetching caspar with star and instead go with kid
he should've fetch caspar first, then search negation or anti-destroy

>>186411173
Which site did you get this info from?

>>186411505
>implying more than half of the people you play against will remember to get rid of Chicken Game so they can actually hit you for game
>implying more than half of the people you play against will play Exodia
>implying Chicken Game is degenerate when it's an inverse Upstart

>>186411587
OP, Hypergeometric Probability Calculator
Damn, that's some big word.

>>186411449
Who are you quoting.

I heard something about a tcg strike going on? What's that all about?

>>186411446
It did, it's called Struggling Battle.

>>186412005
Man I can't wait to get my hands on a playset of those.

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>>186411701
>some big word.
For you

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Ghostricks are fun to run

>>186412005
>comparing ED monster with MD card
>comparing a fucking R4 with an unsearchable card
I get your point, but eh.

What is a comfy non meta deck?

>>186412325
ABC

>>186412325
Aromas

>>186412325
Blue-eyes is pretty comfy.

>>186412216
Cat of Ill Omen :^)

>>186412325
trickstar.

>>186412325
Varrel turbo

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>>186412509
>TFW Barrel Dragon didn't get a retrain in Varrels
I would probably play them if it had.

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>>186412892
barrel dragon isn't as col as this dude.

>>186412325
Pure Dinos

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>>186406820
That list is shit, holy fuck. D barrier is getting reprinted in the new structure deck anyway and no one really uses reaper anymore

CC is the only good card

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>>186408859
>Invoker
>Summon Zoo of choice
>Go into Missus Radiant
>???

Congratulations, you now have a Zoo board

>>186413741
My buddy is real excited for Circle, Navigation, and Barrier.
>WTF BARRIER IS GETTING REPRINTED ANYWAY
Yeah as a fucking filthy pleb common.

>>186414106
>a lone Missus
>a Zoo board
???

>>186412325
zarc magicians

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>>186414148
>My buddy is real excited for Circle, Navigation
Tell your buddy to kill himself

>>186408859
They worked perfectly fine in the OCG, so I have no idea why you'd think they wouldn't work over here.

>>186414447
Why? Dark Magician isn't even good. He just has nostalgia for it.

>>186414148
Did he already shill out the $210 for sand magicians?

>>186414895
Not yet.

>The game has reached the point that a shitty card that removes one card from your opponent hands for 2 turns is relevant

Degeneracy ahoy.

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Can the ZARC magicians activate their monster effects upon using their pendulum effects? Some dipshit keeps saying that he could when I was playing against his deck.

Example: you put Double Iris in a pendulum zone and activate its effect to double battle damage and then it destroys itself. Then, after that effect resolves, Double Iris apparently triggers his monster effect from the extra deck, because he was destroyed by his pendulum effect, allowing you to search for a pendulumgraph spell/trap

I thought you can't activate monster effects from the pendulum zone?

>>186415481
lol

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>>186415272
???

>>186415481
Oh my fucking god, you're fucking new as fuck if you don't remember the shitstorm that was Plushfire which did the same bullshit of "destroyed by whatever, floats"

>>186415481
Yes, this is how the deck works.

>>186415481
You got played. Some faggot tried to pull some shit like this in me with emeral, you have to call them out when it happens.

>>186415481
Dear, anon.
Iris monster effect activates in the Extra Deck.

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>>186415481
The majority of them work like this
Have a good day

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>>186415481
If you couldn't activate monster effects of pendulum monsters while in the pendulum zones, then you wouldn't have effects like those of Trump Girl, who only has a monster effect that triggers when it gets destroyed in the pendulum zone.

>>186415272
Which card are you talking about?

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>>186416001
trump girl is just one of those special cards xd

>>186416226
I think he means Psy-Framelord Omega?

>>186415895
>tripfag doesn't even know basic shit about the game
What a surprise.

>>186415481
>>186416001
Pendulums are only treated as spells while in the pendulum zone. So while in the pendulum zone it can only use its pendulum effect.

However, pendulum monsters in the extra deck/graveyard aren't treated exclusively as a spell, so you can apply their monster effect if there is anything you can activate from their monster effect in response to their destruction.

So to sum up that explanation, you can only use pendulum effects while that pendulum monster is in a pendulum zone, and you can only use monster effects while it's in the monster zone. But some pendulum monsters take advantage of the fact that pendulum monsters are in a limbo state while in the extra deck (they aren't exclusively a monster or spell anymore) so if their monster effect ever states anything like "if this monster while in the pendulum zone is destroyed" then you can apply this effect upon its destruction to the extra deck while that card was in a pendulum zone.

If anyone wants to correct me feel free.

>>186414326
I don't know, summon shit off Barrage, normal summon Rat and start doing shit. Think my dude

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>>186416561
>Invoker gives you a Zoo board!
>all you need is just using another combo starter!

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>>186416356
This card. No idea who, what, where, when and why this became a tech but i've been hearing about this a lot. It just seems like another gimmicky card like Spell Chronicle that everyone hypes up then it quickly falls out of relevance

>>186416545
It doesn't even need that clause. Double Iris's monster effect just says "If this card is destroyed by battle or card effect".

>>186416545
Zarc Magicians player here. That's correct.
And that's why cards like Purple Poison, Black Fang or Time Pendulumgraph are so good.

>>186416518
I thought we were all going to educate him wrong as a joke like edgar :(

>>186406820
>Zoo shit
>no OEM related cards
>no RR
why would I want to buy this tin again?

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>>186416831
Look dude, I'm just pointing out that Zoos aren't dead because of Links.

>>186412325
RR or "Junkdoppel"

>>186416886
I know. But a lot of new players get confused about the ruling of those kinds of pendulum monsters because as far as they are concerned: pendulum monsters can only use their pendulum effect or monster effect depending on what zone they are in, and they can never use both while it's being played on the field. I don't think Konami gives a thorough explanation to how it's possible to activate a monster effect of a pendulum monster even though it was on the pendulum zone while it was being destroyed.

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>Doesn't have an effect that activates when destroyed
>WIND attribute so it can't be searched by Startime
What were they thinking?

>Made an Ojama Deck
>Forgot about Solidarity

No wonder I was so frustrated with this deck.

>>186417239
>the only monster effect she has is a fucking demerit
What were they thinking?

>>186417198
That's dumb, because those effects don't even activate on the field.

>>186417292
Now I want to make an Elemental Hero deck with Solidarity.

>>186417239
She's a Level 4 Tuner that can also be used to summon Zarc. Not much more has to be said about her.
You use her instead of Noble Dragon Magician.

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>>186417239
Even when they're making stupid pendulums on purpose they can't put Pendulum and Tuner in the same sentence without nerfing it

>>186416840
>this artwork is fine
>but scissors are out of bounds

Marzipan needs to go and stay go
Not even gonna (you) him, because this post might hit character limit on account of all the pure retard posts he has made today.

Marzipan, please, leave and take your token deck with you.

>>186417764
Luster Pendulum taught them a very important lesson

>>186417198
>I don't think Konami gives a thorough explanation
Welcome to YuGiOh, my friend.

>>186417587
No you don't, even with the 800 gain E-Heros are still pathetically weak attack wise. Not a single one of them goes over 3000

>>186417905
Yes, clearly the fact that it was a recursable Tuner was what got it hit by the ban list.

>>186418104
>Fusion summon Flame Wingman while sending two warriors to the graveyard
>Flame Wingman gains 1600 ATK while being able to deal burn damage by destroying the opponent's monsters

Keep in mind that I'm not playing in Locals or Nationals.

I really want to try this out now. And that's just with Flame Wingman.

Is there a way to search for Continuous spell cards?

>>186419012
Short answer no.
One of the seven planet series have one way to search it.

>>186419012
Left arm ;)

>>186419012
watch dog. its shit though

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>>186419012
I guess if you play a really slow deck, this can kinda work

>>186419012
Left Arm Offering is the only "real" way.

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>This card's right head and left head are treated as two different monsters. If one of this card's heads is destroyed, the other head's effect shall revive it.

Okay then.

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>>186418753
>Flame Wingman gains 1600 ATK

>>186419745
My bad typo.

>>186417709
>You use her instead of Noble Dragon Magician.
Except you don't. Noble Dragon and Harmonizing are both better and equally searchable.
There's literally zero reason to run White Wing

>>186420102
can't R4NK with Noble Dragon

>>186420353
But you can with with Harmonizing, and more efficiently.
White Wing is pure ass.

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>>186420717
>White Wing is pure ass.
I'll say.

>>186420717
I run one and use it as fodder for cost in my pendulum magician deck without having to use another better card, since most of the time I'm just using Harmonizing to synchro or link summon and I need a card to banish.

>>186421216
But why not just run a better card in its place so that it can serve a purpose besides fodder as needed?

>>186412325
How the fuck do you define comfy in a game that revolvs around destroying and banishing and battling?

Also, Archfiends

>>186421456
Because Harmonizing specifically asks for magician pendulum monsters, and I'm running a 95% deck comprised of just that.

>>186417879
so you don't mind me taking his place?

>>186421961
>so you don't mind me taking his place?
no

Should I get rid of my Windwitches? Got the engine but I have no deck I want to run them in since I don't like the playstyle of Invoked.

>>186417879
>token deck
I don't have a token deck. Anon, your post doesn't make any sense.

>>186422782
Yep, sell them while they're hot. I missed out on selling them at $15 but good thing they'll be a decent $10 so I can get rid of them at regionals

>>186422782
>I don't like the playstyle of Invoked.
WW can go into anything that doesn't SS. Use them in True Kings or Magibullets, for example.

Can anybody link to chinkpro download? I dont have a facebook account.

>>186423493
>I dont have a facebook account.
Go back to /r9k/, loser.

>>186423654
dont you belong on pojo?

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>>186423654
You cannot be serious

>>186423828
>>186423851
Get out fags, 4chan is normie territory now.

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>>186423962
NO!

>>186423654
are you stupid?

>>186423446
Could you post a decklist or two for something that uses Windwitches that isn't Invoked?

>>186422782
Wind Witches go well with mecha phantom beast

>>186424038
>le reeeee xD
Fuck off you forever alone neckbeard. You'll never touch a girl and never be a success in life. You've lost everything and I'm here to take the one thing you have left. Your weeb imageboard and your fucking trading cards. I can duel circles around you.
>>186424060
Yes.

>>186424304
>Yes.
w-welcome to the club

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>>186423493
https://mega.nz/#!aNpVHBba!kuPE5SjBZzyAZI5oMAlr9NHcqp9bN6ZyrgMhrurvnx4

>>186424637
ty anon

>>186424132
You just splash three ice three glass and one snow into anything along with a winter bell/clear wing and a crystal wing.

Post Abyss Actors

>>186417587
I used Hero Beat ft Solidarity and Immortal Bushi in 2011. Lots of salty Six Sam players when Alius effortlessly runs over their Shi-en. But those were better times when you could win with a fun deck like that.

Konami release the rest of the fucking upgraded Charmer familliars already. You're fucking with my ideas for terrible decks.

These three things are the only skillful things in yugioh
-Reading the cards and completely understand PSCT, while also memorizing what's on the field and what thing does thing.
-Deck building for every relevant situation.
-Fast calculations, as in you don't count with your fingers how much ATK does this thing has or how much damage you give or take etc etc.

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>>186425912
>mfw I have all of them and more

>>186425912
you forgot to mention...when to activate cards. setting up all your traps isn't a good idea if you suspect your opponent has twin twister

>>186426238
That depends on the deck to be honest. Then again, Demise decks are basically dealing with Infernity minus the handrape

>>186406026
He just draws the monsters. Konami is the one that comes up with the effects. The only time he made effects were for cards in his own manga in which archetypes didn't exist.

>>186426849
He also apparently came up with the OG effects for Cubics, but they were incredibly busted so Konami nerfed them into the floor.

How long is Rudra going to sit at $10? Will it go down to a couple of bucks soon?

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>>186428052
AAAAAAAAAAA DELETE THAT

>>186428052
I want to rub his tummy uwu

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>>186428052
I THOUGHT YOU WERE BANNED FROM POSTING HERE

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So... Can I just keep declaring all kind of mosnter types in a single turn? What is this even?

>>186428503
You declare 1 Type on activation.
That's it.

https://youtu.be/BfhVppL_vg8

Ophion shouldn't be ba-

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>>186428052
This is the worst post I have ever seen

>>186428052
Im kinda hard

>>186425736
Nice. I don't go to locals or nationals. I'm just looking for fun decks to play with in Tag Force Special.

What the fuck is taking percy so long with links?

>>186428052
What the actual fuck?

>>186429050
Because he can't figure out how to make the AI use them.

"When you use this card's second effect, you can also search for non-monster Infernity cards. Alternatively, search out "Infernity Launcher", and use its effect to Special Summon two more monsters from your graveyard for massive field advantage. If one of the summoned monsters is "Infernity Archfiend" as well, search out another Infernity card, like "Infernity Necromancer" or "Infernity Barrier"."

Is this the reason why some people don't like Infernity Archfiend?

>>186429392
it's almost as broken as stratos

>this place is so awful someone draws a tripfag's name on their fucking belly

>>186429392
Yes, Archfiend loops were the reason Infernity could
-Remove your hand turn 1
-Set 3 barriers and 2 breaks
-Retain meta status to the point of winning Worlds 2014
-Get combined with a certain paywall loop to do the second.

>>186429638
Stratos is still considered broken?

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>>186429050
because percy hasn't been working on the game

>>186430043
Not having a Hard OPT makes shit broken.

>>186430043
>>186430209
Stratos isn't broken. Don't bull shit anyone. Konami is waiting for the right time to sell us new heroes before stratos comes off the list.

>>186429050
last I heard percy was ready with links, but not with AI duels. some loser (a different one) didn't want percy+links without an AI option.