/tekgen/ - Tekken General

>the old OP doesn't get posted anymore
guess you won lucifer

give me yous and @ and #

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Billie Jean is not my lover..

>>186391147
I prefer Michael Jackson circa 1991
In style, music and skin color

>>186390318
does that work for you?

>>186391479
It's ok to be wrong at some things

>>186391147
But the kid
Is not my son

>>186392090
The only good songs from Bad are Smooth Criminal, Dirty Diana and Man in the Mirror.
It is a fact.

>>186392401
continued
And the only good from from Thriller is Thriller

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>>186392401
>Bad
>The Way You Make Me Feel
>not good songs

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>>186392669
No you.

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People who torrent the game can only play with other people that torrented it as well right?

>>186392401
>>186392603
How big of a dirty plebeian can you be for forgetting these

>Bad
>Beat it
>Billie jean
>Wanna be startin' something
>Human nature
>Speed demon

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>Promotion match
>Paul

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Lili's T6 slutty wedding dress needs to come back

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>tfw landing fucking anything on CH as bryan

>>186393374

why is it always like this with paul?

What are my go to punishes with Eliza?

>>186394048

http://www.tekkenzaibatsu.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=132833

>>186393118
with no one. unless you use hamachi or something similar

>>186394048
your tities

holy shit low parries have a generous window kinda

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>Tekken is the only fighting game I play
>Lee has been my only consistent main since Tekken 2
>forever stuck in green rank because I can't do his autistic mist step wallcarries or any kind of combo that doesn't even do half the damage some Katarina player can unga out mashing 4

Being EXCERRENT is suffering

>>186394307
I do feel like I have twice the normal healthbar vs Lee

>>186394441
Highest damaging combo I can manage with him does 81 damage (if a wall isn't involved) but you have to be a complete retard to get launched by it in the first place, so I've only ever landed it like 3 times against an opponent who wasn't the CPU. You have to do a crazy amount of work for little reward

>>186394175
Theres a online crack, you dont need hamachi.

>>186394048
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=eliza+go+to+punishes&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b&gfe_rd=cr&ei=dLOVWY7II4vHXremgoAB

How do I SS2 with Asuka
I can't seem to get the timing right

Lucifer needs not to answer since he is fitlered

>>186394307
Being Lee is suffering. I went for maven instead, absolutely loving her moveset.

>>186395057
tap up or down and then press 2

>>186395057
IIRC I got it easily by doing it just after the SS command. Been a while since I played Oscar though.

>>186395057
side step then press 2 you literal retard

you're already playing the unga character, just quit if you can't do sidestep moves

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>>186395057
You lightly press up or down, then 2

>tfw a guy is so bad he's fucking up your low parries by accident

oscar has nice legs

>>186395287

even worse is when a retard accidentally low parries you an then flails his arms around whiffing but gets you with the accidental kick oki.

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>>186395296
She has nice tits too

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>>186394307
i want to main him so bad but i just cant do shit with him

>>186395234
>>186395232
>>186395202
>>186395143

I see thanks I just need to press up or down once and it works
I was doing it wrong (pressing up twice)

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>>186395624
Asuka looks like Utada

>>186394958
well, but you can only play with people that has the same crack

>>186396171
My nigga

>>186395624

When are they going to add an armpit stubble customization?

>>186395816
He looks so handsome here...what went wrong? too much excellence?

>>186396217
Yes, but you can find matches quickly, i tried it. It plays through the steam, dunno if it's bannable tho

>>186394307
only autistic hipsters can be successful with lee

Is there anything more fun than crouchdashing into hwo's face and see him lose his shit?

>>186394307
laoshanlung is hard to use in ranked because the smallest of latency can fuck up your wall carry. Just take a look at good people using him like Lowhigh, Shudy or Knee. They rarely go for more than two. Sometimes even two is a rare thing for them.

>>186390487
UUUUUUUUHHHH GOD I WANT TO FUCK LILI

>>186397592
lag even fucks with his 1,3:3:3 punisher

its fucking impossible to play this guy properly online

Recommend me an arcade stick, compatible with PS4 if possible. I don't really care about the price, I just want something durable.
I have a mayflash arcade stick somewhere but someone told me to stick with the PS4 pad instead of using it, but is it really that bad?

>>186394307

guy simply needs an overhaul. They got rid of sumo, baek, retooled julia into leo, replaced bruce.. but lee remains, virtually like he was when he was first made.

Harada has to do something about this.

>>186398423

Grab an etokki, it's what all the korean robot savants use.

>>186398809
I just want them to increase the windows for mist step loops. It's a lot of effort but the reward is rarely any good since you can't bound on walls now. Also his just frames piss me off considering claudio's 1+2:1+2:b+2 can be mashed but 1,3:3:3 can't.

>>186398985
sanwa edition is out of stock, are the korean ones comfy to use? the stick looks kinda weird and idk if there are any changes besides that.

>>186398809
waifu version of lee with easier execution

please harada

>>186399312
Got the korean edition best stick I ever used
Can recommend

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How do we fix him boys? I just want him to do more damage and have a few more launchers/bound options

Nobody runbacks against me when I'm playing Lucky Chloe. At least give me a FT2 you fucking cucks!

>>186399865
Wait for the next game and hope

>>186398809
>retooled julia into leo
?
>>186399390
I like waifus but hell no. Lee is supposed to be a handsome and fabulously excerent man.

>>186399865
Bandai Namco is not Capcom in that aspect. They won't fix him until Tekken 8.

>>186399906
You're playing a visually offensive, annoying weeb shit character. Damn right I'll win quit you.

>>186400158
They already made a minor balance patch... which included nerfing the damage of one of Lee's moves. Lol.

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>>186400158
HAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII

>>186400280
Supposed to be a reply to >>186400072

>>186400280
You said the word yourself - minor.
Lee needs a major overhaul, so do Gigas, Lucky Chloe and Xiaoyu.

>>186399865
>70 damage without screw or wallsplat

I never had a problem with his damage output desu

>>186400158

>get into match
>win first two matches with ease
>suddenly 5 bar connection turns into 2 bar connection

I can deal with winquitting but holy shit some players are lame as fuck. I should stick to lobbies, fuck ranked.

>>186400487
Be as mad as you want, but Xiaoyu is one of the most genius and beautifully designed fighting style in a fighting game

>>186400790
What is your point again?

kore ga genjitsu da

are some of you guys still playing online with ADSL? Jesus fuck, some matches are retarded.
i just fought a hworang player with 1 bar even though i search players with +4 bars

>>186401083
Network speed is not related to latency.

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>>186400354
Haiiiiiiiiiiiii! Rakkīii Kuroe da yo!

>>186400354
>>186401472

she's so fun to play bros

>>186401564
and what's so fun about her?

>>186401564
I prefer Kazumi

>>186400890
Yous a mad lil bish

>>186402013
Baiting people into pressing button when they shouldn't

>>186401564
>discount xiaoyu
>fun

I wish I could understand what JDCR was saying. His always looks educational.

>>186402181
Great post my dude.

I wish people would stop getting hit by the end sweep of Feng's 3~4,4. It's just giving me bad habits

>>186402408
He's not wrong though. You sound mad as fuck.

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>>186393863
>instant 100 damage wallcarry
Sometimes I think this faggot can carry you up the wall in one combo even on infinite stage. Fastest upranking character on my list.

>>186402013
nothing, they just get a hardon every time someone eats her bt roll into 110 damage

The only way I can KBD on 2P side is with the QCB method.

It's time to buy a new style of stick, isn't it?

>>186402692

No it's time to git gud instead of blaming your tools.

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Every match against Paul with Dragunov was a piece of cake.
Every match against Paul with any other character is like aids flowing through my veins.
What do?

>>186402819
I just wanna KBD normally but every time I try to do the normal method it doesn't work.

What if I have to play a sway character?

Can someone drop me some practical MRaven tips? I don't know how to not get blown up by aggressive players

>>186402362
When I watch all these streams of Korean Tekken players I'm always tempted to start to learn Korean. Then I remember Korea is mostly just a boring version of Japan.

>>186402943

Just keep practicing my man. Look up videos of people doing KBD on 2p side and look at their hand movements and copy them. Aris has one and he actually prefers the sway character method on 2p side.

>>186403195

lmao I know exactly what you mean. If I'm going to dedicate to a language it's going to be one like japanese that has a ton of untranslated media of every type to consume.

Meanwhile korea has tekken pros and television dramas.

>>186400540
And is that without using mist step outside of practice mode?

>>186402943
>What if I have to

What did he mean by this?

Help me out I'm trying to learn dragonuv but he has so many moves.

>>186403938
>without mist step

of course it's with mist step. If you wanna rack up damage you do that.

>outside of practice mode
it's just 3 b+2 loops. It's perfectly doable.

>>186404358
You can get to yellow by using 3 of those

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>>186404039

Show me your KBD on paul right now, both sides. Use my state of the art madcatz fightstick alpha. Hurry up infidel.

>>186402476
Make a mundane comments about character overhauls, Bandai Namco and Capcom
>you sound mad

Keep it up lads

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WHEN DO WE GET BIKINI SKINS I NEED TO FAP MORE TO MY MAIN

>>186404678
You download them from moddb

>>186404547

I know that WR2 is one of them

>>186404834

d+2 is the second one

>>186402969
db4, bb+2 and 1+2 are your friends in that regard

I need a quick guide to playing Feng

>>186404540
>It's perfectly doable
This
The scrubs here find qcf movements to be difficult so take that how you will.

>>186404039
Maybe he wants to play Mokujin

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>>186404596
easiest shit I've done in my life

ps: stop playing paul

>>186404927

There is a 4 hour TTT2 guide by avoidingthepuddle/aris that is still applicable to Tekken 7 outside of tag crashing and some frame data but just look up frame data yourself to make sure.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1DY_W39NqdA

For a quick guide just look up top 15 moves from the op above and scroll to feng and this combo/punisher/wall game http://www.tekkenzaibatsu.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=132608

>>186404927
Snake dash is amazing
Shoulder is amazing
B1 CH leads i to shoulder.
You better be good at movement.
Don't let people get away for free. Close space when they are knocked down with 4~3.
His df1 is 1 frame slower than usual but goes even on block.
F4 is a launcher. Hold back to enter backturn from it
B3 is one of the quickest mids in the game
Uf2
Good luck

>>186405568
That's pretty slow tho.

>>186405669

Also he mentions that feng has bad wall damage but he has great/top tier wall damage in t7.

>>186405568

There shouldn't be a b in between the b,d/b,b.

The notations at the bottom of your screen should be:

b,N,b,d/b,b,N,b,d/b,b,N,b,d/b,b,N ...

>>186405819
Yea. 3,3,4 gets 55 or some shit and f2,1 > b+1+2 is 61 i think

>>186405568
You're not even doing the correct input.

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What do you do when you need to let off steam and you already had your anti-stress jerkoff for the day? This marauder Bryan pushed my shit in 20 matches straight and I want to kill myself.

>>186406328

Listen to cutie girls whispering about random bullshit.

>>186406328
Sit there are wait to not be angry again.

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>>186406328
Stop playing the game.

If you're having an autistic meltdown over some losses you need to stop.

>>186406328
Just yesterday I got pissed off because of some laggy steve then I fucked the shit outta my girl

>>186406328
Hit the gym. I've gotten a lot fitter since starting tekken.

>>186406849
More fit

>>186406894
Oh right. English isn't my first language.

>>186406328
get high/drunk and watch dumb cartoons

>>186407196
DUDE

>>186404812
The only mod I see there is Devil Kazuya

Is left twist the most useless stance in the game?

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>>186390487
Reminder that Lili used to be all about legs and now she's got jumbo-DD tits like almost everyone else.

>>186408115
Those tits aren't even that big

>>186408115
This is bad why?

>>186408253
i think that's pre "the tittening"

>>186406168
But he is. If he wasn't it, would come out as a sway

>>186408405
Post her current tits

>>186405568
that is the wrong input friend you are barely going faster than just mashing backdash

>>186408559
>you are barely going faster than just mashing backdash
lol

WHY IS THERE BUTTON DELAY ON PS4 REEE

>>186408449
>>186406078

>>186408257
it's not

>>186405819
It's good but not top tier.

>bears
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SsZfpqwAGk0&t=408s

>>186409109

No, you don't understand there is a mistake in the practice mode's input reading during the db,b,n so the game reads it as bb,db,b instead.

Even if he was doing it wrong, it doesn't even matter, since he's not swaying with Paul while doing it, and that's all that really matters in the end.

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Why does Lucky Chloe's Fighter Icon look so much worse than what she looks like in-game

In-Game is more fapable

>>186409487
>there is a mistake in the practice mode's input reading during the db,b,n so the game reads it as bb,db,b instead
What? Never happens to me. What matters is that he's doing it way too slow because of the extra input.

>>186409487

Everything you just said is wrong.

you get b,d/b,b from releasing to neutral through back. It's like using your thumb as a gate on 1p side almost.

It absolutely matters because he is doing it so slow that he won't be able to backdash out of range of common moves that KBD can.

>>186409714
>>186409884

I do it the exact same way he does it with Bryan. And he's doing it too slow because he's going into db too fast, not because of the extra input.

Mind showing me a webm of you guys doing it?

hopkicks are dishonest

>>186409687
her grin looks weird and her eyes are fucked up

>>186409687
>>186410197

The nose really throws it off for me

>>186410116
they are highs which can be blocked and then punished. are you serious? they are also very linear and can be sidestepped, even though they are great low crushers.
its about using it at the right moment

>>186410116
>hopkicks are dishonest
>Block Hopkick
>Make hopkick whiff
>punish

Its not hard

Unless its Claudio

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>>186410003

Never made a webm but here's a screenshot of the input log. You can still do it too slow/too fast with this input but you will never do it fast enough with the other guys input.

how do you do certain moves that requiere running but you doing it standing?
like asukas and dragunovs punches. can you do it with for example jin kazamas fff3 kick?

>>186410689
Yes

>>186409687
It's the nose, I think
>>186409884
>you get b,d/b,b from releasing to neutral through back
No. When you release to neutral from db the game will show an extra b input after db and then the neutral. The actual input is b n b db n b db n ..., but the game think you're inputting b n b db b n b db b n ...

>>186410689

You can buffer it during other moves recovery animation.

So you do like jab, f during recovery, then as soon as recovery ends you input f,f+2 to get a wr2.

It's really hard to do though.

>>186410116
The only dishonest hopkick is Italian Anime Man

>>186410951
brick?

>>186410353
>highs
Hopkicks are mids

>>186411001
what

What are Paul's attacks that can hit someone laying on the ground who refuses to stand up?

>>186410881
You only get 'b' after releasing 'db' if you release 'd'-switch before the 'b'-switch. If you release stick cleanly you go straight to neutral from db and don't get KBD.

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What does Paul say during demoman again, /vg/?

>>186405568
https://shoryuken.com/2017/02/17/this-is-the-year-you-will-learn-how-to-perform-tekkens-korean-backdash/

this is how you do a kbd properly at the end

>>186410881

Seriosuly just go into practice and do d/b to neutral and you will get a clean d/b , N.

You have to actively release towards back to get a d/b,b. you can dot he same with d/b,d if you release through d.

>>186411575
This article is golden. Would you guys mind if it was included in the op?

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>>186410597

I just watched that guy's webm again and noticed the extra b input in his backdash. I was only paying attention to the b,db,b.

Bless this game and all who play.

>>186412089

yeah that's the good shit

>>186412097
Except Xiaoyu players

>>186412097

Bless you friendo

>>186411338
>>186411881
I don't play on stick, maybe it's different on pad. I do b b, slide to db, neutral and the game shows b b db b

>>186412097
this but unironically
Seriously good community (aside from luci "only the last match counts" fer)

>>186412519

she's too exhausting to play well, sometimes you just want to party on a person and win quit.

>>186412618
Same rules should apply for pad. You just release down a tiny bit before you release back.
I feel like for most people that comes naturally and they end up thinking that Tekken automatically adds the 'b' input there.

sure wish I could go over my replays with the framedata mod on

fuck harada

>>186413303
get fucked cheater

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T-thanks Harada-san

>>186413303
I wish you could go over replays with a built in framedata overlay which you do not have access to in live matches

>>186413568
working as intended
its a feature
alisa has teleportation capabilities

>>186413568
>reddit frog avatar

>>186412751
This. My apm is retarded with her

>>186413303

I don't know why there isn't a replay feature when you can spectate player matches. It's basically the same technology except you save everything to a small text file.

>>186413532
if I was a cheater I'd let that shit run in the background while I record

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>>186393590
Agreed

>Lilis that winquit in quickplay
>especially ones that winquit if you get close to winning

It's fucking quickplay, save hiding your dumbass gimmicks from people for ranked.

Why do people talk like Harada single-handedly crafted this game.

>>186393590
oh wow

>>186414161
It makes you rage, and that is why they do it

stay salty cuck

>>186414161
>losing to a lili
just sidestep bro

>>186414608
Alright keep your fraudulent playstyle, you just look like a coward when you do it.

>>186412075
i'd be in favour it seems like a lot of people are doing it wrong. the article will help a lot of people.

>>186414715
Literally all that matters is that you win, only scrubs handicap themselves with non-existent rules about "honor"

>>186415113
stay away son you might catch autism

>>186415113
It's fucking quick match.

>>186415113
>Literally all that matters is that you win
absolute scrub mindset tbqh

>>186414170
Harada has full control over the direction of the Tekken franchise.
No he didn't model himself Asuka's tities, but he sure as hell knows why she seemingly has big tits. Ask him yourself @Harada_TEKKEN

>>186415113
> tournament
sure play to win by all means it's what you should do
>online
your goal should be to learn more shouldnt it? who the fuck cares about online wins

Imagine if Miguel's unblockable was an armor move

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Man I'm done with these online cucks for today. How come nobody EVER fuckin takes a rematch?
Everyone so scared that their gimmicks dont work the 2nd time around? Its so stupid, I spend more time in the waiting room than anything.

> Faggots who tank their connection when they lose their 2-0 lead.

Almost as bad as disconnecters.

>>186415840
>your goal should be to learn more shouldnt it?
i think its about fun. if winning makes it fun, good for him. i think that learning and tight matches are more fun. of course that implies that i have to get better at the game. thats the fun of it
>>186415924
just low him and easy

>>186415328
>>186415498
>>186415586
http://www.sirlin.net/ptw-book/introducingthe-scrub

>>186415840
>who the fuck cares about online wins
How can you learn more if you are stuck fighting low ranks? That is why winning matters.

Daily reminder that if you don't block or punish a certain move or string I'm gonna abuse it until you do something that makes me stop.

>>186416220
sirlin is a moron

>>186416303
Well the sun shines on a dog's ass every once in a while
He is absolutely correct in defining a scrub

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>>186416063
>tfw always rematch people until they don't want to anymore or I have to take a piss

>>186416220
>caring about winning in quick play

Jesus Christ

>>186416220
>How can you learn more if you are stuck fighting low ranks? That is why winning matters.

If you are stuck in low ranks you can learn a lot still even in low ranks cant you? if you didnt have anything left to learn you would breeze through low ranks how are you gonna argue you need to play against top tier players to learn if you cant get out of blue ranks

>>186416551
>caring about losing in quick play
>to the point where you cry about it on 4chan
Siddhartha Gautama

>>186416603
You shouldn't be mentioning tournaments if you need to play against low ranks...

>>186416456
as a player trying to get better you should be playing to learn, not playing to win

the one who plays to win will plateau sooner and harder than the one who is playing to learn

>>186416220
What's the point being able to win bo1s? I play to win in the long run. You know, like the Koreans do.

>>186416457
>>186416063
>b-b-but Lucy Fur tells me that nobody is entitled to a rematch!

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I do this personally

Rematching Rules for Player Matches
>best of 3 if you're just warming up for ranked or want to play against different characters
>if the games you're having are extremely close, rematch at your leisure indefinitely
>add the guy you played with if the games were good for sparring later, tell him gg

Rematching Rules for Ranked Matches
>best of 5
>always rematch after a demotion/promotion has been earned by either party, even if you've already won your best of 5
>winquit immediately if the other player taunts or stomps on you end of round for no reason

>>186416919
>>186416963
Pro tip: playing to win and playing to learn are not mutually exclusive.

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>>186417012
>being butthurt over taunts and stomps

>>186417012
>>winquit immediately if the other player taunts or stomps on you end of round for no reason
Just use a magic mirror like me

And then stomp and taunt your opponent when they can't do anything back

>>186417012
>winquit immediately if the other player taunts or stomps on you end of round for no reason
they added a mirror for you triggered babies

>>186416872
I'm complaining about the fact that no one can fucking learn anything in quick play because people keep quitting after one win.

>>186417432
but how will they keep getting away with their gimmicky garbage if they give people time to learn

>>186417158
I don't disagree. Just saying that winning a long set matters a lot more than winning single match.

>>186417432
If you suck or you lag I'm not playing you again.

>>186417432
>playing quick play to learn
Que?

Are you a wifi warrior by any chance? laggers don't get a rematch even in kike play

>>186417539
They are playing mindgames with you and are beating you mentally anon

>>186417857
>beating you mentally

at what?

>>186417012
My rules for not re-matching go as followed:
>3 bar or lower connection
>they taunt/stomp/teabag
>they don't skip the outro
>spamming a 10-hit combo

>>186418128
Win quitting you get your opponent on tilt for when you get matched with them again

Its mindgames

>>186417750
>If you suck or you lag I'm not playing you again.
>If you suck
sometimes people fuck up, so i press rematch. if you are still garbage, then bye bye

>>186418221
Jokes on them, my memory is way too poor to remember any of their stupid screen names

How the fuck does Xiaoyu high crush all my mids?

>>186417012
>>186418212
I get getting pissed about taunts but stomps?

I stomp after rounds i win for no other reason than it's muscle memory to stomp on a knd.

>>186418212
>skip the outro
What about the intro? I'm fucking tired of seeing people with the default outfit and having to watch the same stupid intro a billion times

Imagine if the player fought 1000 games watching his intro every time, it is nearly 2 hours of their life spent doing fuck all

>>186418327
what about their outfits or player customization?

How do I make my character sound like a bongo when they get hit?

>>186418375
If I see you stomp then you can get fucked cuz you aint getting a rematch you motherfucking cuck

Its simple

>>186418375
Finishing a combo when someone is KO'd in the middle of it is different to KOing somebody with a punish and then just walking up to them and stomping them

>>186418221
I'm glad I don't take online seriously.

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>trying mindgames in blue where they are mindlessly mashing

>>186418535
Well i guess you can salty loss quit then.

Kazuya and Devil Jin should switch movesets.

>>186418829
Jin and Devil Jin should be one character. Same for the bears.

>>186418706
Best thing you can do in blue is either spam away yourself, or just backdash everything and punish them until they are paralized.

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>>186395624
What does Asuka's armpits smell like?

>>186418972
Jin and Devil jin are wayyy more different though. I could still see an argument I guess to make his rage drive turn him into DJ kind of like kaz, but idk. No devil jin= no tournament viable mishimas lol..

>>186418212
My rules for not rematching are:
>3 bar or lower connection
>I have to pee or leave the room
>their character made me want to fap

>>186419136
Sweat

>>186419136
Sweat.

>>186401472
bloody hell i don't remember her looking like that i need a wank

>>186418706
>try to play properly against mashing law player
>loss 2 rounds
>proceed to mash nothing but df+1 over and over
>he never stops mashing no matter what, and gets hit by it over and over for 3 rounds straight

really makes you think

>omg thanks harada-san hehe XD

fuck off ...

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>Get matched against extremely anoying xiaou
>Nearly perfects me twice in a row
>Pick my shit up and go 3-2
GET FUCKED

>>186418484
Please respond. I see people with this but I have no idea where it is in character customization. Every time you hit them it goes BONG BONG BONG. I must know how to do this.

>>186419508
I think it's the drums

>>186419443
my nigaa, all xiaous need to die

>>186419508
it's part of the new on hit thingy. change it to one of the drum hit effects.

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>>186419508
pretty sure its pick related any of those last 3

>>186419637
That fucking hitbox is annoying as hell, still rather play against xia that becomes predictable after two rounds rather than drag who just launches me once and strings 60% of my hp

>>186419354
Use your magic 4 if you have it, anon launch those fucktards

>>186419875
thanks friend

>>186419637
but xiaoyu is really hard, you have to have good skills with her
with that i mean that she has a lot of movement options, and two stances where she cant block anything
she is hard to play against, but also hard to play with her

>>186420131
>two stances where she cant block anything
But crushes everything

>>186420221
>wahhh i cant be bothered to figure out in practice which moves knock her out of aop

>>186420360
>just read their mind and use a mid when they use aop anon :^)

>>186419508
i know the drum makes noise if you use your ult.

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>>186419136
Lili's saliva

>>186419175
This anon gets it.

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Im getting hang of the game,and I can see most of the characters have obvious punishes, but how do you play against paul, steve and dragunov? They are all fast and once I get hit I just get stringed for half of my HP

>>186421224
just don't get hit :^)

>>186420812
You are a moron. Stay bad.

>>186419175
This but I usually don't rematch if we're more than 1 rank apart either. And I haven't stopped playing anyone just to fap.

>>186419175
I wont rematch if you suck or lag.

>>186417007
but he's right

>>186421224
>paul
Lab it up and check what strings have highs in them that you can duck, your character's optimal punish for key moves like deathfist and shallow hit demoman ect

>steve
Don't have much experience with Steve, but his lows suck dick and his standing launch punish sucks so you can be more liberal with moves that would normally get you launched.

Don't press buttons or you will get counterhit.

>dragunov
Sidestep WR2 if you see him running at you, don't interrupt b1+2 or WR2 on block unless you have a hard read. Not much you can do if Drag is pressuring you but if you manage to pressure him back he doesn't have many panic buttons (his hopkick doesn't give a full launch)

>>186421737
>>186417007
Why are morons talking about some useless shitposter? Never post again thanks

>>186421905
What are you going to do about it?

>>186421516
Your advice was shit though, you were basically saying the same thing as >>186421451

I KNOW what moves hit her out of aop, but I'm not a fucking teleopath and I don't know when she will just randomly decide to use aop in the middle of my pressure.

Cant wait for the nerf

>>186422114
her using aop in the middle of your pressure is exactly the same as any character using any high crush option. get gud scrub

>>186422114
>Cant wait for the nerf
This ain't crapcom you shitter

She doean't instantly drop to aop and instantly do a move. You're just lazy.

>this general unironically has leo, xiaoyu, and kazumi apologists

even the drag and jack players aren't trying to defend their characters. get it together.

>>186422323
>jack players
that's because no one plays jack

>>186422323
Fuck being an apologist, why would I not use these characters if I'm having fun playing them?

>>186422323
Every character is fine. Your scrubposting is not needed.

>>186422323
you play a dishonest character though

>>186422323
I missed a few days. When did Kazumi become dishonest and what can I do to exploit that?

>>186422323
>>186422114
You fucking 17ers are the worst. You do understand this game is not new, right? It's been in arcades for years. You didn't come out two months ago and figure out all these characters are broken.

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>rage drive with feng
>switch sides

who said anything about honesty? way to get defensive and jump the gun, apologists.

>>186422661
Kazumi players went from smart, calculating, honest playstyles to unga mashing d/f+1, 1,1 and d+4

I just spent 2 hours training for falling rain mixup I hope this shit was worth it

Win Quit and Blacklist All Eliza Scum.

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>>186422681
yes knee said kazumi was stupid back then and look what we have here plenty of people who can play at a high level switching to kazumi because shes literally braindead

>>186423450
I don't see anything there indicating he said she was stupid. Your not even xlose to playing pros. Whining about characters is embarassing and you should just stop.

>>186422228
Except AOP ducks mids you retard, so it is like having doing Lars' lightening screw from previous games but you can't punish it

>>186422308
>She doean't instantly drop to aop and instantly do a move
Learn what crushing means you enormous fucktard, she doesn't need to do a move immediately after because when she crushes my mid I'm minus enough frames to be launched by anything

>>186423587
except every time i do i bring up valid reasons and no one can refute the points and they just call me a scrub like youre doing
its just getting old

>>186423680
>can't punish it
You are sad. Stop mashing jabs you shitter.

>>186423889
What is actually getting tiring is you bitching at people for playing characters you or your favourite eceleb got booty blasted about.

if xiaoyu is so broken play her to get yourselves out of blue/green which it's clear you shitters are and see how easy it is.

>>186423680
Takes a risk with aop because if you used your brain you could maybe anticipate and use a low hitting mid or just a low. Jesus dude. Get it together.

>>186424045
Learn what a punish is.

>>186424185
>just read their minds bro :^)

>>186423450
From everything I've seen she is just good basic character with solid poke game and little else.
She is not only character with decent df1 or is she?

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If you leave after one win thats 2-3 and its not lagging. Please stop playing.

>>186424045
stop projecting
i never bitch at people for playing any character
im complaining about the character itself

>>186424429
you're retarded. it's not mind reading, the whole game is a guessing game if you don't like it fuck off.

Regardless of who is broken or not, nobody wants to hear you cry about it. Like what a useles thing to post at all. The thread just gets ruined by it.

>>186424067
She is still a cunt in yellow though.

>>186424429
I know what a punish is. Sorry you can't read. Those were two seperate points. Maybe if you weren't mashing the 1 button you wouldn't get punished when it whiffs

>>186424618
Yes this so much, dont leave until i leave you faggot

>>186424429

>crying about aop

it does exactly what it's supposed to do which is beat scrubs like you

>>186424815
>Quotes one part of my post about punishes
>I-i wasn't talking about punishing! y-you just can't read
nice backtracking kid
>mashing
Is this what scrubs call pressure? kek
And nice assumptions, I have stated before her stance crushed mids but you put forward the same tired apologist bullshit about how "people who have trouble with Xiaoyu need to stop jabbing".

>>186424672
>whole game is a guessing game
You aren't wrong, you're just an asshole. The whole game might be a guessing game but when a character has significant advantages that make the guessing twice as harder as the next best character that puts her at the top of tier lists, you know there is something wrong.

>>186425269
eddy has a stance that is functionally the same, no one is saying eddy is op except shitters.

>>186424468
imo its the best in the game because of the range and it still has the same strong tacking of a generic df1 and being -3 is not a big deal
the fact that all she is is a basic poking character means you actually dont have to put any thought in playing her you just do your basic stuff always and its very effective because thats what her character rewards no matter what
when you play bryan for example (since take switched from bryan to kazumi and knee plays kazumi in tournaments too) you use basic shit to condition people and gain information so you can pull out bigger hard hitting stuff and make riskier reads later on but its hard to do that in a first to 2 set where you need immediate rewards while also not taking many huge risks that lose you rounds
and at a high level basic and compact play is what literally everyone except like nobi or buts or noroma does

>>186425269
Would you just shut the fuck up already?

>>186425372
Eddy can't sidestep, Eddy doesn't have safe launchers from said stance, Eddy doesn't have 3 other stances to mix it up with.

What is your point again?

>>186425494
>he's still going

>>186425372
eddie is really predictable tho. I immediately knew what to do when I had only five hours in the game and saw his slow as fuck spin to win stance

>>186425459
>>186425551
>he has no arguments so he tries to stifle legitimate critisism of his broken waifu

>>186423450
Kazumi was nerfed 2 months later.
Where is the list of characters scrubs complain about, to my great dismay it seems like they now complain about Kazumi

>>186425797

It's simple, we just buff the characters no one complains about.

>>186425746
You failed to make a single coherent argument too. Why do you expect people to put effort into responding to shitposts?

>>186425797
scrubs complain about jack and drag
there are exactly zero scrubs who complain about kazumi because scrubs dont understand the effectiveness of her basic shit

>>186425883
That is what they did with Dragunov and Leo and now they aren't even respectable to use lmao

>>186425997

kazumi has the best fists in the game

>>186425942
cry harder nigger

Yeah I see why Xiayou is the worst now.

FUCK MIRROR MATCHES

>>186426196
Seriously? This all started because you cry about xiaoyu.

Lee is dishonest

Why the FUCK did Harada give Hwoarcuck a safe armored launcher?

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>>186426196
So you really don't have anything to say.

>>186426225
Tekken mirror matches are the worst

>>186426225
they are my favorite

>>186426225

Playing mirror matches is great. It's skillful as fuck. It's like for a moment you are playing against people who actually take the time to learn frame data and matchups.

>>186426271
You're crying about my posts which is 200 times worse lel

>>186426356
>>186426356
I fight fire with fire, if you post a reply to me with no substance I'm not gonna put any effort into my rebuttal

>>186425797
Here

If you complain about any of these characters you're a shitter, your opinion has no value and you should hit practice mode.

Alisa Bosconovitch
Hwoarang
Ling Xiaoyu
Josie Rizal
Eddy Gordo
Claudio Serafino
Katarina Alves
Kuma
Panda
Leo Kliesen
Shaheen
Bryan Fury
Paul Phoenix
Yoshimitsu
Jin Kazama
Devil Jin
Eliza
Akuma
Feng Wei
Asuka Kazama
Marshall Law
Gigas
Lucky Chloe
Sergeï Dragunov
Tony King

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>>186426574
You might as well put the whole cast there

P.S legit critiscism is not the same as complaining

OH BOY LOVE ONLY BEING ABLE TO PLAY ONE MATCH EVERY 30 MINUTES.

NOT LIKE I WANTED THOSE EXTENDED PLAY SESSIONS AT ALL.

GUESS I'LL GO BACK TO FUCKING PRACTICING THE SAME COMBO FOR 30 MINUTES.

>>186426225
>MIRROR MATCHES
is that you josie?

>>186426574
I am sorry but fuck King, Hwo and Jack players
The rest is fine

What's the frame data on Jin's 1+2? (Middle destruction?)
Or better yet how can I find all the info

>>186426498
You started all this yourself by making an utterly silly post.
There is an obvious discrepancy between what you say what actually is.

>>186427008
http://rbnorway.org/t7-frame-data/

>>186426574
>Sergeï
>ï

>>186427139
>sergetthefuckout

>>186426726
>You might as well put the whole cast there
this is the point

>P.S legit critiscism is not the same as complaining
who said the opposite

Reminder that the 2nd dlc character will be goku and that bowling won't even have online.

>>186427079
>discussion is silly because I say so
You are like that one kid in the classroom that sperged the fuck out whenever anybody teased or joked with him in the slightest.

>>186426574
Wtf Where's nina.

>>186427264
it will be 2b before goku

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>>186427264
no way, its ryu habsuausa or the girl with the purple hair or someone from vitrua

>>186427115
thanks sir a lot.

>>186427247
>this is the point
I don't see Geese on your list

>who said the opposite
The cuck who was bringing up the list as a response to criticism of kazumi

>>186427339
you have mental issues

>>186427339
What the fuck are you talking about?
Are you just going to twist everything to your liking?