/eftg/ - Escape from Tarkov general

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First for shit posting.

>>186269610
>the vulture
Never even occurred to me shit

why would you play this garbage when pubg exists lmao

>>186269961
>why would you play this game if a completely different game exists lmao

>>186269961
Why would you play PUBG if ARMA exists?

so give it to me straight fellas is the game in a good enough state right now to justify me paying my hard earned dollarydoos?

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Seventh for if you don't have a Factory Key you're a fuggin scrub

>>186270103
I wouldn't recommend it to anyone who doesn't have disposable enough income to justify it; it has some pretty bad network issues at the moment, but the gunplay is fantastic. For most people I'd say wait until it's more complete. That's something you'll have to figure out for yourself though.

>>186270103
I personally like it a lot. It needs a lot of improvement still, but even in its current state I have already sunk about fourty hours into it.

>>186270103
Not right now unless you are really itching for this sort of thing. Maybe once they start getting closer to an open beta and work out some shit but for now it's still a bit fucky.

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What gun are you guys finding yourself using the most? Personally I always venture out with an AK-74N, which sets me back about 30 000 roubles (40 000 if I add a COBRA). I wish I could take the MP5 a bit more routinely, but it costs 1000$ ~ 90 000 roubles, which is a bit much for my wallet to endure.

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So uh, is going full-goy worth it?

>>186271004
The final game will include ways to upgrade your stash and your alpha container. Although the exact 3x3 dimensions of the gamma container might never be obtainable to regular players, we'll be able to come close™

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>>186270809
Used to always go out with AK's, but now that my stash is just full of everything (>>186270190) I pretty much always take an M4 out. If not an M4, a decked out AK. I'd say recently I come out of 90% of my raids alive so I might as well, I never use 74U's anymore (I keep a few to give out to friends if they need a weapon) and I just sell most 133's and keep 153's to turn into M4's.

I'll take AK74N's onto Factory for some quick fun though.

This is ol' reliable, have taken her into 20+ raids on Customs/Shoreline and made it out of every one.

The game gets a lot more fun when you don't have to worry about losing gear. I have like 10k USD and 1mil Rubles.

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>>186271774
Then we got the Factory meme gun, a personal favorite. I can't see shit when I use it and neither can opponents.

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>>186271970

Guess I'll ask here as the v thread seems dead. How is latency in the game? Best ping I can get is 180 to eu

How many weapons are there exactly? I like roguelikes / roguelites a lot, and this game seems to me fits the formula of running through the same locations many times. But how much enjoyment is in there exactly? I've been thinking about picking up EFT for a week now, your shill threads worked, but I'm not confident that I won't abandon the game after a few hours.

>>186273149
So far
PM and PM with threading
The Tokarev pistol
P226
Mp443

PP SMGs "Kedr" and "Klin"
MP5

AK-74U
AK-74N
M4A4?
SKS SLR and sporting carbine
AS VAL

SV-98

MP-153
MP-155
Saiga 12k

I think that's about it
Most enjoyment comes from tension during battles and during scavenging the sound engine really help building it up. Gunplay is very satisfying especially if you land headshots. So if you like that go for it. Honestly I wouldn't recommend that right now.

>>186273857
Thanks.

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Basic merchant levelling guide (feel free to add to this)

THERAPIST
>Analgin Painkillers
Buy for 690₽ sell for 420₽, 1110₽ spent for 170₽


PEACEKEEPER
>P226 magazine
Buy for 24$ sell for 11$, 3150₽ spent for 13$ ~ 242 roubles / dollar
>Grips
Buy for 55$ sell for 26$, 7290₽ spent for 29$ ~ 251 roubles / dollar
>Ultrafire Flashlight
Buy for 63$ sell for 30$, 8370₽ spent for 33$ ~ 254 roubles / dollar
>Eotech Holographic Sight
Buy for 284$ sell for 135$, 37710₽ spent for 149$ ~ 253 roubles / dollar

>>186274282
I leveled Prapor with AK-74Us bust mostly now I buy Boolit and splints because those are things I am running out quickly

They really need to give people a starting pistol to tone down the axemen. I'm guilty of it too, I just go in with the axe and pop a scav to get a gun.

I'M SO BAD AND I NEED PEOPLE TO FUCKING PLAY WITH

>>186270190
I have the key but 3 of my friends don't. How big is the the spawn possibility? Like 1 in 10 raids?

>>186273857
You are missing one sniper and the Mpx

ded

Upgradeable stash when?

>Early unlock of your digital copy (early access)

What does this stand for? Getting Steam version earlier? Also what tier should I go for?

>>186284496
Just go with the standard one, the benefits for the higher tiers are fucking trash. Also remember that the store does not have tax added, so if you see 35€, that's actually 35€ + tax (went all the way to 45 for me).

Escape from Deat Thread

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>it's another axe gang member drops from the catwalk episode

>>186283446
Open Beta, probably

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Whoever brought his DVL-10 into shoreline and died next to the exit against scavs: THANK YOU and kek

>>186277020
Add me up famalam, steam id/iamfrag
Someone make a spreadsheet or something for people that want to be play.

Does anyone have a trader upgrade list? What they sell as you upgrade them along?

>>186295868
Sent ;)

Some of you guys are okay. Don't come to factory right now.

EFT General day one.

not even 40 posts in and death.

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>>186300159
It is trying its best.

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>Bring gun
>Die instantly

>Don't bring gun
>Dodge bullets like Neo from the Matrix
>Never get shot
>Sprint faster than the speed of light
>One hit kill everyone
>Bathe in blood
>Make it to the exit

Someone post vendor unlocks

>>186301352
>bring gun
>Awaiting Server Response... 8:48.
>have to restart the game twice
>get in game
>dead long since

fuck bringing guns

>>186303000
>waiting 8 minutes to restart

>>186302532
Prapor sells the AK-74N at LL2. Peacekeeper sells the MP5, Night Vision headpiece, AK74 foregrip, grenades, the biggest bag in the game (I think?) and more at LL2

We need more memes to keep this shit going

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>>186306275
Or waifus

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>>186306578
>Tfw no qt USEC waifu (male)

What is the best place to do SCAV runs?

>>186309635
Shoreline, kill the scav sniper and run

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>>186309956
>Kill the scav sniper
>His body stays ontop of the rock

How to loot sniper?

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>>186310380
Be good at jumping

Is there like a firing range or test area in this game where you can use your custom guns without going into a scav area?

>>186311534
Can't you like play the offline mode? If you die you don't lose anything.

>>186311795
Alright thanks, I was thinking about getting this so I was just asking

>>186311534
There is. It's called offline mode. You get no loot from it, but you can't lose anything either. It will be removed upon game release.

>10

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>>186318504
First general of a tightknit community with little awareness of this very thread!

>>186318504
Just means we are exclusive

So if you don't get an insurance payout on shit that's been taken. What's the point?

Surely if it's worth insuring then it's worth someone stealing?

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>>186319902
AI scavs never take your gear. If you die in some obscure spot, or get 360 noscope headshotted by an AI and nobody ends up looting you, you get your stuff back. It's basically a bullshit preventer that does nothing to aid in PvP scenarios, and has a chance of helping in PvE scenarios.

>>186319902
Basically this >>186320456
Or if you are playing with a group, they can just hide your stuff after you die.

>>186301352
AI accuracy depends on your gun.
With knifes and Hatches you can sprint like a madman into them and stab the right the gabber with a M4 you get 007 sniped with a Makarov. >>186310969
Only insure at prapor also 2-4K roubles ain't that much.
>>186319902
Yeah most of the time you die visibly yo shits gone my dude.
But if you play with mates you can usually hide their stuff or they yours if one bites the dust.
Only thing shite about the insurance is that they only hold on to it for 24 or 48 hours after returning it.

>>186321032
If you press the insure all button and just mash next, you'll end up insuring your gamma/alpha/beta box, which costs a fortune

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CYKA BLYAT IDN NAHUI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhS7P1Q4pTY

>that russian voiceline that just goes for nearly a full minute

>>186321920
It stops if you kill the Russian.

>>186321465
Oh yeah forgot that is possible
>>186321920
A lovely poem about what said scav will to do the others and their mothers if he catches them iirc

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I wish there were better ways to communicate ingame. My earmuffs have a microphone, but I can't use it.

>>186323509
>Earmuffs
That's a cute way to say headset

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>>186321753
>Factory shitter
>muh stash
fucking cowards. Maybe play Customs or Shoreline with actuall weapons

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I enjoyed playing DayZ when the mod first released. I always enjoy STALKER and played the MP betas for that too.

Do you think I would enjoy EFT? I've kept up with this game since it was first shown in like 2011.

Seems pretty hard to get in to desu.

>>186323852
It's hard to get into, but it's pretty darn great once you do.

This game seems neat as fuck; I really do hope it takes off. Do people currently get immediate access to the beta?

I may or may not get this. I have an itch to get my slav on.

>>186324875
If you buy you get in beta right now.

>>186270103
35 hours in, loving this game. But it does have issues so it depends on how much this sort of game appeals to you.

>>186273857
So then like <20 weapons in the game, I'll be looking forward to seeing them try to hit that 200 weapons they said in the dev report.

>>186326725
>200

They said double digit, not two hundred.

>>186274756
I buy a lot of his pineapple juice when I do raids so I can level up that metabolism.

Now I need to go do some runs where I do nothing but run around in barbed wire and heal up to boost the healing, vitality and stress stats.

There really needs to be more ways to level up the strength stat than pretty much just tossing grenades as the only real way I've seen that stat go up.

>>186311534
Right now there is a offline mode where you can play against just the AI scavs.

They're talking about removing this feature from the full game for some reason, but in theory when they come out with hideouts, you'll be able to make an indoor shooting range to test out your guns.

>>186323792
Not his fault that Factory gives out more loot and XP in a short amount of time than any other map.

Factory you can kill 2 people and a scav, leave with 3-4 guns and various loot easy, in 3-4 minutes and get out with anything from 10-20k XP in 4 minutes.

Doing the same thing on Shorelines or Customs would take at least 10 minutes just to sprint through the thing, and if you actually take your time it's more like 15-20 minutes.

In the time it takes to go do Shoreline and Customs you could run wild over Factory 4 times and get 4x the loot and XP easily. Factory is just too good if you need to grind levels, loot and money.

>>186327175
The developer walking me through the demo, Nikita Buyanov, is both the COO and art director at Battlestate, who work in St. Petersberg. He pops open Tarkov’s long, scrollable inventory, which at a glance looks like, yes, a more elegant version of S.T.A.L.K.E.R.’s grid, with broken-out areas that correspond to your chest rig, pocket, and backpack contents. Buyanov pokes around, casually mentioning that Tarkov will include “the whole lineup” of AK, M4 and AR variants at release, along with other shotguns, pistols, and others, amounting to “nearly 200 guns,” all real-world weapons.

http://www.pcgamer.com/escape-from-tarkov-guns/

So not the dev report, but an interview with the dev.

>>186328376
No, I just play Factory as a scav because it's the easiest map to scav on. I play Shoreline and Customs as PMC.

>>186277020
>>186295868

The YouTuber Shosho has set up a community Tarkov Discord for anyone looking to find a squad to play with. Good guys in there and good opportunities for trade. Just bought a factory key off a guy in there for $9k today.

For anyone who wants to join:
mjjZuhz

>>186331213
Is that the "unofficial community discord" advertised on the subreddit?

Because I left that

>>186310969
>>186310380
Can you actually climb up the sniper rock?

>>186331474
Nope. It's a smaller, more friendly community

>>186310380
>>186331907
No. But there are certain spots on that rock were he always drops down. Got my sv98 that way

>>186331213
Discord is trash.

>>186331213
>>186331213
>Just bought a factory key off a guy in there for $9k today.

Factory key isn't worth that much, jesus. I mean, an M4 alone is under 800 bucks. Running customs until you find it isn't that bad, honestly trying to find the wallet/documents holder is worse.

>>186332995
>wallet
What?

>>186333107

There's a wallet in EFT, found inside one of the factories in the middle. It takes up one slot in your inventory but can hold 4 slots worth of money.

>>186332995
I've found three wallets and a docs bag, but never the key. I have enough to spend anyways.

>>186332021
ok

>>186333241
You can also find the wallet in the Cabin on Woods

>>186333271
>I've found three wallets and a docs bag, but never the key.

I found the key on like my 3rd run, but never the wallet on the docs bag and I'm really looking for those.

>>186333692
Which cabin? Might give me a reason to actually visit woods.

>>186333850
The big wooden cabin in the middle of the field surrounded by scavs

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>>186333968
On m6?

>>186334181
M11

>>186334497
>>186334181
Sorry, I meant A11

>>186334497
Ok thanks. Gonna check it out.

Anyone else find being a solo slayer edge lord easier than playying with friends? I love squading up, but holy shit baby sitting in this game is the pitts.

>>186335452
To a degree. As long as you can hold your own, it's fun enough and you keep whatever you kill, don't need to share.

But it's nice to have an extra set of eyes or being able to actually do some teamwork, do even basic sort of fire and maneuver sort of stuff can win you a gun fight you'd have lost by yourself.

>>186335452
I always move slow and tacticool and roleplay. I can't do that in a group.

>>186335452
I go solo for sneaky search and loot in buildings and go in squad to wipe out enemies and grab their shit.

This game needs more scopes.

new feggit here

explain to me what this game is, is it p2w and is it worth buying

also is it a good online stalker or more like dayz survival bullshit

>>186340138
Scavenge for loot and escape the map alive. The shooting feels rather good and the weapons are heavily customizable.

The more you pay, the more space you have in the beta, but when the game launches, you can unlock more stash space through missions.

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Hooooo shit son, we got a general. Been checking occasionally since beta started.

>tfw you go into a map you've only played 3 times before and come back with tons of loot and 4 player kills
Pic related. Don't mind the bugged health/gear shit.

>>186270809
AK-74 all day every day. From barebones ones to fully customized ones. I just love the AK. Can't wait for the AKM to come in, hopefully an AN-94.

>>186310380
>>186331907
>>186332012
You can get up on that rock. Did it earlier and got an SKS with a PSO already attached.
https://www.youtube .com/watch?v=_KwRmc_PLh0

>>186340971
I don't understand how you guys are making so much cash and weapons stored. Granted I just bought it today but it seems like the loot from buildings is terrible and a good way to die if anywhere busy

>>186341459
Loot from buildings is all about knowing where to look. There are specific spots in the game world that have a chance of spawning weapons, from AK-74us to VALs depending on your luck and where you look. But mostly you get rich off selling the gear of your dead enemies, either scav or PMC.

Besides looting off corpses or in-world spawns, check filing cabinets, computers, and safes whenever you can. Grenade cases, medical bags, and jackets are also good. The green crates can sometimes give pricey attachments, but the actual weapon boxes and bigger cases suck dick for loot right now. There's a bit of a learning curve to get around, but after you've played for a while/watched some streams/read some shit, you'll be swimming in loot. I've only been playing a couple weeks and have several stashed guns along with ~$20k and 2.5mil rubles. You'll get there too. It just takes a little bit of learning.

>>186341459
Kill and take from other players or scavs and either sell it off or use it for the next raid.

If you kill 3 or 4 scavs near an exit thats 3 or 4 guns, backpacks, vests, mags, shells, meds, and possibly armor. Extract even off just scavs alone can net an easy 40-50k no problem depending on what they have.

>>186339575
Game needs a lot of things, more guns, more maps. They really shouldn't have released this as beta since it's nowhere near feature complete.

>>186335452
Yeah there's only maybe one or two of my friends that I'd want to play this game with. Teamplay in this requires too much coordination and being in-the-moment (or just plain playing seriously), and half of my friends can't even handle PUBG.

Would rather be paranoid lone wolf than frustrated asshole friend.

>>186340971
Oh man, I can't wait to get an AK and go full Slavinator.

>>186342375
AK is bae. It sounds so god damn sexy that you won't want to put a suppressor on it.

>>186270809
I mostly like to roll with the AKS74U. Cheap but deadly and will eat up paca in a hurry better than the kedr from what Ive seen, and better for longer range too.

>>186342502
Don't need attachments when the rifle is already perfect.

What is it that makes the game fun? Just the paranoia and feeing of getting stronger?

>>186342313
Pretty much. I convinced a friend to try the game out and he said he couldn't handle it and felt like he was gonna have a nervous breakdown. 20 minutes scared him worse than Amnesia and Outlast.

>>186342657
Agreed. I have plenty of money, but I still frequently take out the basic AK-74 that Prapor sells you without changing anything.

>>186342782
The gun porn is really good. The shooting is satisfying when desync isn't fucking you. The loot scavenging if pretty good, although it needs some work still. The gun customization is really nice. But honestly, the feeling of killing other people and taking their gear and then leaving a raid with more stuff than you started is really addictive.

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>tfw you pull off a perfect flank and catch a full four-man squad with their pants down fighting scavs

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SCAV GENOCIDE BEST DAY OF MY LIFE

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>>186269610
Have an escape from darkness edition for sale not used onnce hit me up on steam to discuss more need some money for coke

http://steamcommunity.com/id/Chadiussbruhsus/edit

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>>186343457
>taking 4 Trizips Matryoshka doll style with the last one with Helmet and tricked out guns and going from pistol scav to Juggernaut.

Best feeling.

>Kill guy
>Take his AKS
>Lay down next to hay bale in the middle of an open field
>A minute goes by
>Suddenly a faint *click*
>Two grenades go off right next to me and I die

I don't even know where they came from.

Does anyone have any ways to level up the strength stat that doesn't involve throwing grenades around like a mad man?

>>186343812
How much XP did you get off that.
Scavs only give 100 XP each so it really wouldn't be that much, and frankly I find that too low. Yes, you shouldn't get as much XP off an AI scav vs a player, but I don't think it should be only getting like 1/20th the XP.

AI scavs should only be like half the XP of a player, not that extreme.

>>186344662
Not sure, but strength is tied to jumping, right? Try jump spamming and see if that does anything. Just don't let your stamina bar go into the red while doing it because I think that decreases your endurance a bit when that happens.

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>>186345232

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Help

>>186346297
Such is life in the prime-time hours. Hopefully the new servers get added soon. Woods usually matches fairly quickly during this time for me if you want to try there instead.

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What's the difference between the XPS3-2 and the XPS3-0? They look identical.

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>>186343812
>>186345834
Pussy shit.

>>186273857

You are missing the MPX, the MP5SD and the DVL-10.

Yeah the gunplay is really what holds the game at the moment, that and the customization.

>>186328608

I don't see em hitting 200 either but they are also counting variants. So right now there are 3 AKS variants in the game even though they all function the same, just have different attachment slots. Eventually you will have every single AK variant imaginable which is probably another 10 or 20 right there easily. Plus you may get other Eastern European made AK's, get some of the Czech made guns of the time tossed in, you can put in quite a few if you are willing to have relatively similar guns with minor differences. And considering the target audience of this game, said audience wouldn't mind that at all.

>>186348458

Doing a quick search, it looks like the only difference is the reticle is slightly different on the 2 providing an extra dot below. And in reality it also apparently has a slightly better battery compartment, though that doesn't matter in game. So really 2 slightly different than eotech sights, maybe I'll screen em when I get on to compare.

>>186345834
4 g 3 e, will my tired eyes ever have peace from you?

BLYAT Why are they all fucking here

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This dynamic lighting system is really pretty.

(album, not to spam the thread)
http://imgur.com/a/jfFap

>>186349745
Spam helps keep the thread alive.

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>>186348948

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>>186350253
One person posting twice consecutively does not bump threads.

>>186348528
Yeah, honestly if they had just 50 or 60 different guns and each had a few variants like how the AKs are I'd be OK with that.

>>186349745
Agreed. I really like the lighting in the game. I just wish they'd optimize it a little better on maps like Customs and Shoreline.

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Here you go, the left is the 0 and the right is the 2. Not much of a difference, really.

>>186351627

Meant to reply to

>>186348458
>>186348886

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>>186351627
Why would you ever want two dots?

>died from thirst for the first time
I didn't though the thirst and hunger system were in yet

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>>186351892

The 2nd dot would help you for bullet drop. Fpr .223 this is what it's supposed to be, depending on the type of ammo used. Subsonic rounds would be a much shorter range then supersonic rounds for example so that's why you see 50 and 200 yards.

In game however I don't think there is bullet drop. Is there even bullet travel? There aren't maps with enough range on them to really test bullet drop I suppose.

>>186352519
There is bullet drop and bullet travel. Try out the subsonic ammo that the VAL and VSS fire. The 9x39 ammo makes it super noticeable.

>>186352519
There is. It depends on the muzzle velocity of your weapon and chosen ammunition.

>>186352656
>>186352656

That makes sense. It seems to be about 100 yards is about the furthest combat will take place in the current maps. Eventually though I hope you may be able to set your zero distance, probably before going into the raid, to help for bullet drop. Though that'l only really matter once they do the massive open world aspect where there possibly will be long range fights.

Now to fix up the modding guide for the AKS-74U because it's missing a lot of info.

>>186352923
>It seems to be about 100 yards is about the furthest combat will take place in the current maps

Doesn't woods have huge stretches of areas where you could have like firefights at some 200-400m ranges? Like sniper mountain and shit?

>>186352468
Dukester is that you?

>>186353249
Yeah, I picked off a sniper on the mountain from all the way down by the coastal road. Feels tactical man.

>>186352468
I told you nigga.

>>186352468
>I didn't though the thirst and hunger system were in yet

They're in and they're sort of weird.
Most Raids are too short for them ever to really be an issue. By the time you've died or extracted you've barely taken a hit unless you ate like 3 things of croutons on the way.

But it's the easiest thing to level up too. My metabolism is in the 40s because if you just eat and drink whatever you come across and suck down a bunch of Prapor's Pineapple Juice as soon as you hit the raid, you'll level it up in no time, unlike almost everything else.
Strength, Stress, Vitality, Health and Endurance, none of them level up anywhere near as fast and it's kinda annoying that Metabolism takes off to where you're getting 2-3 levels each raid, and yet after almost 250 raids I only have level 1 strength.

>training the rock climbing as a scav to get the sniper
>nearly an hour at it
>finally manages
>look around, no sniper
>that's okay because I finally did the jump, now I can do whenever I want
>go down, loot a scav corpse
>look up after looting the corpse
>hatchling staring at my face
>he has been watching me for over an hour to climb the rock
>so fucking surprised that I fire the gun at him
>misses multiple times
>he stabs me in the head and I die

I can rock climb now, that's okay. Enjoy your F1s.

>game is in beta
>betas are supposed to only be for optimization and bug-fixing
>game is only like 1/4 of the way done

What the fuck?

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This game has a general now? I haven't touched this game for quiet a few months now, hows is it currently? I heard they improve the AI a good amount, have servers been optimised more so? I feel I want to come back to it considering I spent $150 for the biggest bundle package

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>>186360379
I am personally in love with it. It sates my inner /k/.

>>186360379
Just started yesterday. Bots are retarded, unless they really decide to kill you, then they will snap head-shot you in a second.

Servers are fine, most of my problems were with melee hit-registering not connecting properly because both players were circling around eachother. But I never missed a shot that I felt like it should have hit.

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>>186360798
>melee hit-registering
Melee weapons have a built in chance to "miss" to represent melee struggling. This chance is increased when the opponent is also using a melee weapon. This is to discourage people from using nothing but an axe. Melee combat is supposed to be very risky.

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>>186360657
I really did enjoy it, but I fell out of love with it when all I could do was run factory because of the sever issues. I just jumped into a test run on Woods now though, and it feels perfectly fine, so I have hope

>>186360798
Sounds like how they used to be, I swear I heard awhile ago they made them ridiculously good.

USEC > Bears

>>186361884
t. The snake

>>186361884
I HEARD YOU'RE EMPTY. THAT'S TOO BAD!

>manage to survive my first raid
>as a scav

still had fun. this game is neat as fuck.

>get fucked on by scav snap headshots two games in a row
>say fuck it, go into factory with a saiga
>12 kills (only one PMC and 2 player scavs though), 21k xp, $300, and 85k rubles plus a spare saiga for later
That was much needed

Why would I bring anything more than a Makarov to raids?

Why isn't this is a singleplayer game with a fleshed out story concept and a tactical shooter multiplayer game?
Why are the servers so bad?
Why is the economy so mediocre?

>>186362319
You can't beat good players with makarovs unless you sneak up on them

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And here it is. The modding guide was not finished for the AKS, here it is, everything you can do with it.

>>186362414
90%+ of my encounters in this game when playing my main character are walking up to a player, silently, while he loots a dead scav/higher level player then capping him.

90% of my runs as scav either involve me instantly dying to a single shot at spawn with four other scavs immediately FF'ing each other or walking 50m from the extract on Forest and finding a fully geared/body armored player dead due to AI lasering that I gleefully loot and walk off with.


Nothing else.
Nothing.

>>186363115
nioce

>woods, spawn scav on shore road
>cut down by suppressed m4 after I take 3 steps
such is the life in the zone

>>186361884
USEC? More like USUCK

>tfw want to get all tacticool with someone
>friends don't play the game
>too autist to play with a stranger
VOIP is gonna fuck me up

>>186363571
what did you spawn with?
>inb4 gratch.

>>186360176
>What the fuck?

I'm pretty sure it was a PR move but yeah it's completely dumb that they decided to go with 'beta' when it's clear if they even want half the stuff they've proposed in the game we're gonna be in closed beta for at least a year or something.

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>>186363115

And out of curiosity, I decided to bring an AKS fully max kitted, versus an AKS barebones out of the store, versus an AKS with the receiver and without a stock to see the difference in recoil and shot groupings. The gun stats below show the leftmost, fully modded AKS-74U to the best potential it currently has. barrel could be swapped but it's hard to argue a silencer is pretty powerful to have. The 2nd shot grouping is from a stock AKS-74U that you can buy from Prapor, no barrel attachment. The third one is an AKS but without the stock on it. And the 4th one is without both the stock and the receiver.

Two things of note. For one, having all the attachments really doesn't bring it THAT much closer together. It does have an impact but not exactly a severe one.

The second one is why the fuck does the AKS jump from the first shot so incredibly much? Like the pattern for full auto is fine being a bit inaccurate like that, it's supposed to be a close range carbine almost like an SMG sized thing. And yet the recoil from the first bullet is MASSIVE and then after that it's fine for what it does. And I doubt mastery would effect the first shot recoil.

>>186331474
Do you have the link for the unofficial discord, and is

>>186331213
pretty much the 4chan Tarkov discord then?

>>186365336
>VOIP is gonna fuck me up

VOIP is probably going to be the thing that really saves this game and makes it more fun.

>>186366485
I don't disagree with you. But the mic anxiety is real for me.

>>186362104
Yes it is. Welcome to the zone.

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>>186366147
>Sights on the B-12

Disgusting. Get a B-18 and put a sight on that.

>>186366918

B18 has far more limited options for sights. Plus a front posted sight for close quarters isn't a bad thing either. And I just really like the OKP-7 sight and it only works on the B-12

>>186365881
grach vest and tbag

>>186300297
This could do with some downsampling & bitrate increasing.

>>186361749
Yeah, I think they were shooting through walls at one point, so they toned them back down a bit.

>>186363208
>main character vs scav
I haven't played this game, can someone explain?

>>186366147
Bretty interesting. Seems the attachments are barely worth it when you consider the range you'll probably be using the thing at. Honestly though, for the price I'd rather just have an AK-74N, even on Factory where barrel length can be important. Would be interesting to see a base AK-74's shot pattern against the modded/unmodded 74U if you ever feel like messing around some more.

Why are helmets so hard to get when Mak scavs one shot me while I'm fucking strafing them from 20m away reeeeeeeeeee.

Seriously though, bartering 5 fucking filters for one helmet is insanity. I find the rare scav helmets more than I find filters.

>>186369269

Once I earn a bit more cash I'll be able to do that.

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>squad is desyncing really fucking hard on customs
>Get to alt exit at the gas station
>sit there for 5 fucking minutes
>nothing happens
>finally my 2 squadmates extract
>But not me I am left here alone
>minutes pass
>I hear footsteps
>man is walking down stairs
>unload even though I understand it is for naught
>man walks up to me
>unloads two mags from a suppressed SKS
>walks off
>AltF4 after waiting a few minutes more
>log back in
>I'm at the short cut
Holy shit I shouldnt be alive

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>>186371015
wrong photo

>>186368394
They were. There was a period of time where the AI made everyone feel like an extra in a John Wick movie. Snap 180 headshots were common, perfect tracking through walls, pistol scav decapitating you with a Makarov at sniper range.

They toned them back so they're a lot easier to deal with at range, but they can still pull off some crazy matrix shit at CQC range.

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Just did something dirty, and it felt wonderful. Got that helmet and AK and got the fuck out.

>>186371015
>Shoreline
>trying to level up vitality and health by running around in barbed wire and healing.
>spawn in, eat an entire duffle bag worth of food and drink and get 3 levels in Metabolism right off the bat.
>start making my way towards through the town.
>spot a Scav, maybe 15 meters away.
>Aim for head and shoot with Gratch.
>See hits. AI doesn't notice, continues to move on patrol.
>Fire a few more shots, hits.
>AI keeps walking, goes behind a fence and acts like nothing happened.
>Realize desync is in full effect.
>Get up
>Start walking
>The gunfight that ensued catches up about 30 seconds later and I keel over in a forest from the 20 bullet holes that all just registered at once.

Fun times.

Got to run around in barbed wire and it turns out it does fuck all for vitality and health. You'd have to heal up enough to go through an entire stash full of IFAKs to get enough healing done to level up.

Why is it that it only takes like 5 boxes of pineapple juice to level up Metabolism and it takes like 500 Grizzlys or to toss like 1000 grenades to level up anything else?

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>>186371732
Nice cheeki there my breeki.

>>186371938
Thanks m8. Scav mode is a lot of fun when you're able to actually play like a scav and not get shot in the face when you spawn next to three other player scavs.

>>186372142
Pretty much. Last 2-3 scav runs all ended within like 30 seconds from another scav. It's too bad people don't want to group up and try to take down PMCs but I guess such is life. It's just too bad the AI doesn't do anything to defend you like it would if you happened to be an AI scav.

This game appears to have 'persistent' loot and equip, right?

Then why would a new player enter it? Just to be gunned down all time by earlier players with full m4 and infinite money while you barely have a Makarov?

>>186372314
Yeah. Between player scavs spawning within 15 inches of one another and the fact that player scavs can beat PMCs to the loot at the end of the raid, scav mode needs a lot of work.

>>186372365
You can still get gear from vendors and off the AI. It'll be middling gear until you level the vendors up, but it'll be enough to take down most players. It's not like everyone is running around in top end gear, and even then, if you can outskill them enough, their awesome gear becomes your awesome gear.

>>186372365

>Be guy with PP-19 klin
>Loaded with hollowpoint ammo for killing niggers with hatchets
>body armor
>Hatchet nigger runs at me
>plant a dozen shots clean into his chest
>He hits me once with the hatchet
>dead

Do not fucking underestimate the power of autism bud

>>186373075
If it feels any better, he probably died when the desync caught up with him, or from bleed out if he didn't already have any meds or picked up any off of you.

>>186372471

Yes yes I get that you have a chance to kill others if you outskill them (difficult and unlikely, if you are a new player in a game), what I mean is that this mmorpg like aspect looks like it will make for a steeper entry barrier.
I would be interested in the game, but I loathe the whole idea of needing to grind in order to be able to be on a somewhat even footing vs previous players, skill and map knowledge notwithstanding.

Why are the ironsights on the SKS so trash?

>>186373917
Well if you're looking for a game that doesn't have much of a learning curve, you should probably look somewhere else. This game's learning curve is fairly steep compared to other FPS games. The gear isn't the barrier, it's player skill and general game knowledge. You can buy an AKS-74u right off the bat, and even though it's not a great weapon, it's plenty to kill someone. If you get good, you can take minimal gear into raids and come out with 50-100k rubles worth of shit easily. I went into the beta a couple weeks ago having never played the game before, and my inventory is insanely full. I have, like, 2.5 million rubles. It's easy as hell to get money in this game once you figure out what you're doing. A lot of people grind by running around with knives/hatchets stuffing shit into their secure container, but it's not something you need to do if you take the couple hours to learn how raids work. Also unless you're playing on the smallest map, Factory, there's not a guarantee that you'll run into other players during a raid. So if you want constant PvP, wait for other game modes to be released or find another game.

>>186374674
The real question is why they don't let us dovetail most of the SKS variants.

>>186374858
>If you get good, you can take minimal gear into raids and come out with 50-100k rubles worth of shit easily.
This has been my experience, you can definetly walk into factory or customs with just a pistol, and walk out of there with more gear than you know what to do with, walking out with multiple AKs, body armor, big bags, the works, sell it all for huge amounts of cash.

I'm sitting around 1.5 million rubles and about 25,000 dollars and I've constantly got to keep selling stuff off so my stash isn't getting completely stuffed with gear.

>>186374858
>Well if you're looking for a game that doesn't have much of a learning curve, you should probably look somewhere else. This game's learning curve is fairly steep compared to other FPS games.

It's not about the learning curve, I have played plenty of games with a steep one, it's about being on comparable gears/equip.
It's what I dislike about most modern fps: let's make ranks and unlockables so you have ppl who, on top of more experience, have 4x scopes, extended magazines and all kind of perks vs new players with only ironsights.
Conversely, avoiding or reducing that factor it's what's great about certain games.

> The gear isn't the barrier, it's player skill and general game knowledge. You can buy an AKS-74u right off the bat, and even though it's not a great weapon, it's plenty to kill someone. If you get good, you can take minimal gear into raids and come out with 50-100k rubles worth of shit easily. I went into the beta a couple weeks ago having never played the game before, and my inventory is insanely full. I have, like, 2.5 million rubles. It's easy as hell to get money in this game once you figure out what you're doing. A lot of people grind by running around with knives/hatchets stuffing shit into their secure container, but it's not something you need to do if you take the couple hours to learn how raids work.

Ok, that's better. It's the idea of grinding mindlessly and hopelessly a la mmorpg/crpg/r6six that's a great turn-off.

> Also unless you're playing on the smallest map, Factory, there's not a guarantee that you'll run into other players during a raid. So if you want constant PvP, wait for other game modes to be released or find another game.

>The real question is why they don't let us dovetail most of the SKS variants.

Why are there RPG-like skills?
I can understand it for shit like weapon mastery, but strength & metabolism?
What is this fucking skyrim?

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>Be in customs with my best say-ga and fully kitted
>very sneaky, no one has spotted me
>get to exit without seeing anyone but dead bodies
well at least I didn't die

>>186376947

I'm actually OK with some of it, like some of the physical ones make a little sense. Like if you're outdoors and running around, you'd get faster and stronger and have more endurance.

So it makes sense that guys who've been working out by running and jumping and lifting and carrying are more physically fit, especially when they're only reasonable bonuses like have 25% higher jumps, 20% faster sprint or 30% weight capacity, ect, things that make sense that you'd be better at it if you just worked out more often. The maxed out elite bonuses at skill level 51 for Endurance are like +150% stamina, stamina drain -50%, +250% breath hold time, and breath recovery +150%. You have to run some 1500 km to get to that point.

Where they went sort of retarded was with things like vitality and health where it's pretty much eat smaller bullets to build up a resistance to bigger bullets, you see things like 10% decreased chance of fractures, 15% reduction in bleed chance or decreased chance of death from limb loss.

I don't want even begin to know how they're going to do all the mental stuff like intellect, memory, perception, ect that they've got planned. I really wish they kept it just to like, strength, endurance and maybe metabolism, the real just things that'd logically get better as you work out more sort of stuff, same with the weapon mastery stuff.

>>186377769
Pick up anything off the bodies?

Also, EFT is going to Gamescom and is implimenting a quest system.

http://forum.escapefromtarkov.com/topic/31307-escape-from-tarkov-at-gamescom-2017/

>karma system will make your weapon magically jam more

Not sure I like that shit.

>>186368515
Your main character (PMC) has all of it's stats, equipment ect. carry over between missions. Scav's are both the AI, but players can also choose to play as a scav, which as their gear, stats, appearance ect. randomized, and you only play as that "scav" for a single mission.

>shoot someone in the head
>he ran off
>"fucking desync"
>he stops and sit in a bush
>shoot him about 20 times in the head
>as I have to reload he turns and kill me
Ok

>>186378720
Thing is, part of the appeal for FPSs is that everyone's on even footing.
Manage to kill a guy & get his stuff, congrats you're now that guy!
Except you're not if that guy's run around for 1500km.

It's a freebie for long-time players/expense for newbies, and can really be a massive pain if that 25% higher jump height actually time-played-locks spots/paths only for true grinders/experienced people.

Small things like shot-groupings sure, we all like our weapons & making them great & that's part of that.
But building our *character*?
Eeeh

>>186381729
Why ever play as a scav?
You get to keep the gear?

Soo, play as a PMC with gear you get as a scav?

>>186382212
Because the scav is allied with the AI, spawns later and has random starter gear. If you get out you get the gear. But you can play him just once every hour.

Best looting places to find ssd and sas?

>>186367364
the spawn rate for skav runs and that pistol needs to be fixed.

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Didn't knew this could happen.

So how does dying in this game work? I don't have hundreds of hours a month to play, so I was wondering if there's any permanent inventory or weaponry you can keep. Do you lose absolutely everything you're carrying permanently when you die?

>>186386320
Just the stock tho m8

>>186386364
Yes

Unless it's in your small locked container that you carry out with you, or you insure it and nobody ends up stealing it.

>>186386364
You have a stash and your character gear. Everything on your character, except the pouch slot falls down if you die.

Your stash is safe no matter how much times you die, but you can't use the gear there, you have to put it on your character.

Collecting guns is really not a problem if you are afraid you won't have anything to shoot with.

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>>186386506
>>186386493
I'm a little concerned I'll never be able to get good gear or that I'll lose a good loadout/weapon that I get attached to..

Is it worth the 35 EUR price tag if I only have about 10-20 hours a week max to play?

>>186386946
>I'll never be able to get good gear or that I'll lose a good loadout/weapon that I get attached to..

Sums up my experience of it. Been in since Alpha but I'm also just incredibly bad at the game

>>186386946
>if I only have about 10-20 hours a week max to play?
That's considered little? 80 hours into a game a month seems a fucking lot to me.

>>186386946
I think there will be a open beta before the end of the year.

I don't know how good you are at shooters so you might just test it by yourself when the open beta drops.

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Just leveled up the peacekeeper, in case anyone is interested on what he sells.

>>186387891 I can post screens of all traders maxed if you want. But I can't differentiate what unlocks at what level.

>>186390341
Sure go ahead

>>186386946
Half the fun in games like this is losing equipment, and vice versa, taking good equipment from other players, but i get your concerns due to limited time. As some other anon's mentioned, there is the insurance system and you can always buy stuff from the in game vendors, along with your own built up collection, so it's no where near as punishing as a day-z for example.

>>186390341
RIP Anon.

>>186387891
>lvl 2
>Not having all at max level
Cute

>>186392729
Y-You too

>Have 5 rounds with my SKS shitting on everyone
>grab my M4 because I'm on a roll
>Kill one and die instantly afterwards
Everytime.

>>186392729
How did you guys raise the trader level so fast?

>>186393301
Having no life and sell/buy shit.
I even bought 50 X400 lamps from Skier and sold them to peacekeeper to level both.

>>186393301
Don't keep everything. This anon for example has so much shit I would sell:
>>186270190
You never need so much shotgun ammunition. Also you don't need 500 mags. Sell that shit you need 2 mags and 30 bullets for a run. If you kill someone, all those mags come back. And if you don't have any? Buy them and level even more.
This way I have 11k Dollars, 950.000 Rubel and all Traders on lvl 4 with a stash full of high end weapons.

And if you are desperate do >>186393351

>>186386320
You can very rarely find even M4s or VALs in that locker.

Could someone take a screenshot of the vendors at max level?

>>186377769
>this is my strategy for raids
>almost never run, always walk for maximum sneeki breeki

it's not an exciting strategy, but it works.

>>186398806
30k xp off from 35, so Therapist isn't max yet, but all the others are.
http://imgur.com/a/l6uWF

>>186393301
You can get a shit ton of xp from killing a couple players on Factory then running to the exit. Aside from that, you can buy stuff and sell it back to them to get the money amount quickly since selling stuff to them counts toward that as well.

>>186398806
>>186400342
Shit. I didn't think to take these at vendor reset time, so there's gonna be stuff that Skier and Peacekeeper sell that isn't in the screenshots because it's sold out by now (like Makarov drum mags, or the PSO trade with Prapor).

>>186400542
No problem, I wanted to see the guns more than anything else. Thanks mate.

>>186400646
Sure thing. If you're wondering what the trade for the VSS/VAL is:
VSS: 5 filters and one sniper scope that you can buy off Peacekeeper
VAL: 2 geiger counters and 7 MREs (which you can also buy off Peacekeeper)

>>186400767
>wasting filters on weapons
ISHYGDDT

Is there a discord or something that /eftg/ could use to form groups in game?

>>186402141
You can get helmets off scavs and other players, so if you're lucky enough to run into a good amount of those, you might as well pick up a VSS.

That said, the VSS and VAL are almost functionally identical (and you can put a PSO on the VAL), so the VAL can work as a VSS-lite if you need to save filters.

I really just wish they'd make helmets easier to purchase though. Fort armor makes sense being hard to get, but when Scavs can one tap me because the helmet is so difficult to get, that shit's frustrating.

>>186381543
Neither do I. A karma system is hot garbage.

>>186404765
The Karma system is supposed to stop people being arseholes, killing scavs as scavs and killing other PMCs from their own faction

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>>186402237
Discord is trash. Just post your ingame usernames here and make a chat room in the messenger.

>>186405138
Discord is convenient desu

>>186405037
Thats what VOIP/Discord is for.
Karma just breaks more than it fixes, its good for Mass Effect or Fallout, not here.

>>186405273
I've had plenty of situations where I've been on the receiving end and Discord would not have helped

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/eftg/ dialogue has been created ingame. Post usernames if you want to be added to it.

>>186405335
Then you should learn to communicate better

>>186405408
Venseer

>>186405467
Ah yes because it's my fault some random arsehole starts killing me at spawn in scav mode

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>>186405408
Or just add me (Vakarian) as a friend ingame and things will work out.

>>186405408
OperatorJack

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>>186405805
>OperatorJack
Not appearing on search.

>>186406070
Let me log in, gotta update the launcher

>>186406070
>OperatorJ3ws

>finally climb on the rock of the shore, kill the sniper and get sks
>Terminator AI snipes me with a makarov from below

>>186406070
I'm on now, try again senpai

>>186406219
I have this whacky theory that perhaps they might have fucked something up when assigning AIs their "personality". Maybe sometimes the "sniper" personality gets swapped or accidentally added to a regular scav.

>>186406319
Still nothing. Try adding me instead. I don't think friends are region-restricted, are they? I've managed to add an American before, so this should work.

>>186406070
Wait no my IGN is CaptainJack

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>playing Russian games ever

im about to play for the first time what the heck does this insuring stuff do and should i bother?

>>186407271
Insurance is: If nobody takes your items after you die, they come back in 24 to 48 hours.

Just bother if you are playing in group or planning to take on the AI in a big map. AI doesn't take items

>>186407271
Always get insurance. It's cheap, it helps you get your items back sometimes, and it thus stops the resource-bleed when you start using your PMC more than scavs.

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Good loot, boys. How the hell do you jump onto the sniper rock in shoreline, though? What angle do you approach from?

>>186405408
TechoverMana

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>>186407936
Takes some practice but after three or four times I can do without failing.

>>186407936
Check this https://www.youtube .com/watch?v=_KwRmc_PLh0

>>186408261
>>186408283
Thanks famalam. Next time I won't have to wait for someone else to shoot the sniper.

>>186408363
Join as a scav and practice it first. Took me an hour to get it right the first time.

> be me, scav run
> meet a guy doing the same at spawn
> we dont shoot each other
> wave "no" with my head, even drop the shotgun
> he gets out of cover, we speak russian fsr
> going to extraction together
> kill scavs bots together and start looting
> he shots me in the head

ffs, why can't anyone trying to be nice in this fucking game ?
Now, i'm shooting on sight, it isn't even the first time i try this...

>>186410184
Such is life in the Zone.

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>>186410184
M4 or AK?

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>>186395847
Guy who posted that screenshot, I have more USD and Rubles than that along with all of my traders being max level. Selling anything at this point is a waste of money when I just use the shit whenever I can.

>>186410728

Depends if i have the stuff on it.
Full mod, i'd say M4, otherwise, Ak.

>>186373608
he ran off unscathed until a couple guys I Was playing with caught him looting the office, we were playing shoreline

>Go into map on offline mode because I wanted to spot loot locations
>Die due to dehydration

wew

>>186405408
Rahl_f

>>186405335
All discord will do is allow you to buddy up and do some teamwork, its not going to stop you from eating a bullet. If you want it where FF isnt allowed go play something else.

>>186411652
>Fuck off shitter the game is perfect

ah the Tarkov """community"""

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>>186411361

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>Shitter starts discord
>Immediately begins whining about the actual community of the game

And you wonder why we don't like discord around these parts.

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>>186395847
>>186410767
Also:

>2 mags 30 bullets for a run
You're doing some pussy runs my man. 2 mags is alright, but only taking 30 extra rounds is dumb as fuck. This is how much I had left coming _back_ from my last raid, I went out with more. With AK's/M4's that I spray with less I usually take at least 120 extra rounds of ammo still, but if you only take 30 extra rounds with you you're dumb as fuck my dude.

>>186405138
Yeah, fuck voice comms! Why would you want to communicate with your team?

>>186412012
How about we make an /eftg/ Discord to separate ourselves from the cancer that is the unofficial Tarkov Discord?

>>186411823
>I want to do something that the game is not designed to do
You can't stop people from shooting you. Even if there was a more severe penalty, people would still do it.

They could make the fire button not work when aiming to allies but then they might as well put a minimap, allies outline and make it a team deathmatch.

>>186411823
Its not perfect by any means but the fucking crybabies shitting themselves over being shot and demanding a karma system or FF being disabled so they have less to worry about can go fuck themselves.

>>186412170
How about you take your shitty bloated shovelware, ram it so far up your ass you can taste it, and then sit in your garbage channel by yourself with nobody to talk to?

>>186412170
>How about we make an /eftg/ Discord to separate ourselves from the cancer that is the unofficial Tarkov Discord?

Sounds like a good idea.

>>186412354
>bloated
Discord is the polar opposite of bloated you bumbling retard

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>>186412447
>>>/r/eddit

>>186412171
The Karma system has been slated to be in the game since as far as I can remember in the Alpha friend

>>186412425
I agree desu. The unofficial discord is full of kids and shitters, they're the type of people to jump on you when you suggest the game isn't perfect

>>186412541
>m-muh goalposts
>muh ebin ebul rebbit mem xDDD

>>186412582
Hey, let me tell you a secret.
Karma system still won't stop people from shooting you.

Discord groups are ALWAYS fucking cancer, anyone with half a brain knows this.

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And thus, during the very first general, we have already reached a divide. On one end, there are karma (upvote)-loving redditors who want a discord to talk with their normie friends. On the other end there are people who actually play the game the way it's supposed to be played. I give up. I'm not making a new thread when this one dies. See you, zone cowboys.

>>186412754
>You're not supposed to communicate with your team! Go back to le rebit you fun loving faggots! I want to play the game in SILENCE!

>general dies with left vs right discussion caused by discord trash

Welp. Last post for backpacks being one extra row than their interior to prevent backpack stacking.

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>>186412541
Good

Now if only they did it for radical islam and communist discords

>>186412660
Never said it would, but it'd discourage "friendly fire"

>>186412754
>trying to create more drama than there already is.
Fuck off then faggot, nobody cares, though you wanted attention didn't you? otherwise you wouldn't have announced your departure like the queen you are.

>>186412170
>You're doing some pussy runs my man
I have aim, my friend

>>186413087
>I like to take less supplies than I need because I'm good!
Yeah alright bud, you're a champion. Enjoy your ten minute raids.

Here's a Discord if you guys want to use it
https://discord.gg/9QEsXHZ

>>186413174
lul. Try 40 minutes

>It's another episode of reddit ruins things

>>186416150
>it's another episode of /vg/ blows non-issues out of proportion like they always do, even though in this game's case it would greatly improve playing together

>>186416150
Please explain (without using buzzwords) how having a Discord is a detriment for this general. You cannot communicate during a raid in the game right now. Using Discord allows easier grouping and communication in-raid. How is this a bad thing? Genuinely curious.

>>186416345
I don't know what's worse. The fact that you've ruined this general, or the fact that you refuse to take the blame for it. Congratulations, I guess, you've killed it. You win, everyone loses. Enjoy.

>>186413174
2 mags, 1 in weapon + 30 boolit to fill up mags
120 rounds which is reasonable.
I usually take 60 boolit to have my 150 but that is still a lot you can do also i usually have semi auto to get better shots.

>>186416972
>Providing an (optional) easy way for people to group up and communicate has ruined this heavily team-based game's general
Sure thing drama queen.

>>186416972
How would people VOIP in raids?

>>186417353
>all this shitposting effort for a Discord that is made solely for these threads
That image doesn't apply at all friendo, but nice try again you fucking baby.

>>186413046
>Never said it would, but it'd discourage "friendly fire"

So would disabling FF, or just playing a different game. Or just having friends who play who you know won't shoot you in the back.

I don't get why people keep insisting that people have to play a game their way to where they've got to destroy other play styles by hardcoding shit that'll fuck over someone who doesn't play their way.

>>186405408
Minimum4Symbols

>>186419965
I'll add you as a friend later today, and to the chat after you've accepted the friend request.

>>186416937
There's literally nothing wrong with using a Discord

>all this talk about discord
Give it a rest faggots. Most generals use it in a direct or indirect way, like a secrit club discord for /vg/ veterans.

Talk about the game not discord.

>>186422820
All the generals with a discord turned objectively worse after the discord was introduced.

>>186422820
This

>>186422974
Most games that are multiplayer and have generals have a way to communicate in game. This one doesn't. There isn't really any other way to organize and communicate with groups in this game for now. When they introduce VOIP then there will be no use for Discord.

>>186422820
This.
imb4 namefags go wild. Go watch the disaster that is /r6g/.

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>Discord doesn't turn generals to trash guys
>Last 100 posts have been about nothing but discord

Do your fucking part and kill Discord faggots. Go on Discord, get a 5 man group, bring a F1 grenade, blow them all up. Be sure to chuck their shit you can't carry into the open so someone picks it up.

Fuck Discordfags.

>>186426220
Hey, settle down, okay?

>>186426220
>F1
>using the mini atom bomb
Mad man

When will cosmetics not be shit?

>they drop when you die
>they break
>they waste inventory slot
>people often loot them from corpses because they are often without them


Cosmetics without effects shouldn't drop or degrade, they are just to make you look pretty anyway.

>>186426220
>F1
Confirmed retard, you're gonna kill yourself too

>>186426220
Good luck.