/fng/ Fortnite General

>>186266342
i wonder if we will see every flavor of bees, nature fire water, energy, then maybe husk mix, like when a blaster's laser impacts it leaves energy bee clouds behind

>>186266830
>We are proud to announce changes to the combat!
>It will include a new element to weapons
>Element bee

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>>186266830
>lobbers with bees

>>186266830
My worry is that enemies will become so strong and then the game becomes a min maxing game where if you have the wrong setup you are going to have a bad time.

>>186267302
Well thats what gas lobbers are

>>186268015
i agree, im gonna beat plankerton, then spend time leveling up heros, and getting things i like to silver, ill let other players hit hard grindwalls for me first before i start 3 staring weapons, and start hating the game, besides i think plankterton, and canny valley enviroments are not finished, i did not realizes that plankerton missons are supposed to look differnt than stonewood

>>186268214
Nah, gas isn't nearly as strong as bees.

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PSA: >>186261927
"+X% Headshot Damage" is additive, not multiplicative, with "+Y% Critical Hit Damage" when you make a critical headshot.

>>186258470
>>186258695
>>186259168
See picture for reference.
Ninjas generally have a higher ability damage modifier. I've listed their base values at level 1 at the bottom of each table.
Frag grenade only hits a 0.5 tile radius circle.
Dragon Slash hits a 2 tile by 0.5 tile rectangle.
Ammo of 3 with a CD of 25s vs a CD of 10s.
And then there's the perk diversity.

Unless you're comparing the Mythic Soldier, frag grenade is laughable in comparison to dragon slash.

>>186268562
you are not taking into account that you have to be in MELEE RANGE for meme slash you nob

>>186268562
So is headshot damage the same as regular damage %?

>>186269135
and dont get me wrong, i enjoy my purple skirmisher when i have to play ninja, but ehh, guns are so much fun desu

>>186269158
Crit damage is regular * crit mod.
HS damage is regular * HS mod.
HS Crit damage is regular * (crit mod + HS mod)

>>186269135
>>186269274
I factored the range aspect in. Frag grenades are safer, but they don't kill anywhere near as effectively as dragon slash does. It's the traditional higher risk for higher reward trade off.
You travel forward 2 tiles when you use it. Three tiles if you have the wings perk. You can use it to quickly approach key targets for killing, or you could use it to quickly escape from where you are killing stuff on the way. Or just to destroy everything that's in a choke point.
Also, don't get disillusioned into thinking that Ninjas aren't supposed to use guns and should have all weapon slots filled with melee. You're better off with two guns and a single melee weapon. If you wanted to, you could even have zero melee weapons. Dragon slash is an ability after all, you can use it while zipping around with a shotgun or sniper.

>>186269158
>>186270025
>Crit damage is regular * crit mod.
When I say "regular" I mean your non-crit normal damage.
If you were trying to ask if HS damage weapon rolls were the same as +damage weapon rolls, then no. The implication is that +crit dmg and therefore +crit chance is less "good" than everyone thought it was for weapons where you consistently land headshots. Much in the same vein as +dmg wasn't as "good" as everyone thought it was before.

>>186270354
So the headshot damage rolls are different from the regular strait damage rolls?
Would the good rolls be
Teir 1: Crit damage, crit chance
Teir 2: hs damage roll
Teir 3: regular damage roll
Or are they both the same? I do notice that the hs rolls are usually higher than the regular damage rolls.

>>186270867
It all depends on the other stats of the weapon (mag size, fire rate, etc.), how you plan to use it, and what you're using it against.
You can almost create a generalized tier list if you set your enemy to be an imaginary one with infinite hp, but I don't see the point in that.

All I'd say for certain are things like: you should be sad if you get dmg/crit chance/crit dmg rolls on a trap that does no damage and can't crit, you should probably be sad with HS mods on weapons you rarely HS with like the LMGs (on a side note, headshotting with most shotguns is actually easy and thus advised), you should probably be sad with recoil mods on bolt action snipers.

I'm currently doing testing on misc weapons that I have, HS dmg mods on weapons I find, and HP totals for mobs. If I can get more of that done, only then will I consider making 'tier lists' for rolls. And there won't be a general one, they'll be multiple depending on the gun, enemy, and playstyle.

>>186271979
i assume damage rolls are bugged and they are going to fix them? there is no way something that gives 15% damage, only gives 10 points, when its supposed to be about 71 points of attack power

>>186271979
>>186270867
>So the headshot damage rolls are different from the regular strait damage rolls?
Forgot to answer this. Yes, they're different. This is basically the formula for damage per hit:

Normal Hit: (Weapon Base Damage) * (1 + Damage Mod)
Critical Hit: Normal Hit * (1 + Critical Damage Mod)
Headshot: Normal Hit * (1 + Headshot Mod)
Critical HS: Normal Hit * (1 + Headshot Mod + Critical Damage Mod)
"Damage Mod" is the sum of all 'normal damage' modifiers: Offense, +Damage weapon rolls, Soldier's Advanced Tactics or Assault Damage perks, etc.
"Critical Damage Mod" is the sum of all 'critical damage' modifiers: The base modifier for the weapon, +Critical Damage weapon rolls, various hero perks, etc.
"Headshot Damage Mod" is the sum of all 'headshot damage' modifiers: The unlisted base modifier for the weapon, +HS Dmg weapon rolls, various hero perks, etc.

>>186272313
It's not bugged. Perhaps the above formulas will help clear confusion. It's all working how they intended it to work. It's just that a lot of people make incorrect assumptions on how it should work because their wording is technically ambiguous. And also because the inspect screens don't display base values for half the stats, and are constantly bugged on top of that.

>>186272520
so could you explain the damage roll on a weapon in some barney style laymans, like in theory, damage rolls get better with more offense, or they just give a very minor boost to damage, and thats it

>>186272765
Afaik offense damage work something like this:

You have 100 offense and deal 100 unmodified damage, your damage when you hit is now 200.

If you increase your offense to 200 you deal 300 damage. You now unlock +10% damage perk on your weapon.

Your offense increases to 210 because of it, and you now deal 310 dmg. You would think you deal 10% more damage compared to before unlocking, but in reality your damage only increased by 3.3% compared to the expected 10%.

TLDR; More offense makes +% dmg worse.

>>186272765
>>186273083
>TLDR; More offense makes +% dmg worse.
I hate this explanation because it requires an assumption to be true. Or you need to be talking in relatives, which nobody ever mentions.
+Damage rolls add the same amount of damage no matter what offense you have.
However, critical hits and headshots are multiples of your modified damage. So the more offense (or +dmg) you have, the more damage they do.
Thus: crit chance rolls adds more damage the more offense you have, whereas damage rolls don't.

>>186273461
I get it. It's just weird that they don't make it a flat 10% to your overall damage. I would be happy if they made it like that. But part of me wonders of it would be broken by one shooting everything.
It would make crit damage even better if you have both flat damage modifier and the crit damage modifier rolls.
Maybe it was intentional or unintentional by how the formula works.

>>186276519
They'd just have to tweak the numbers a tiny bit to make it not broken

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This whola llama gamble is depressing.

>>186277469
They just need to change a few things like missions give upgrade llamas or something like that. Why cant they easily fix it I fucking hate TENCENT REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Just installed and opening my first llamas and have an epic question mark.

Do I want Copper Founders Warhammer or Copper Founders Greatsword?

>>186278016
Doesn't matter, warhammer if you want to play constructor sword if you want to play ninja

>Don't have SSD
>Rescue Shelter mission is auto-fail

Great.

>>186278190
join mission in progress, shelter is 600hp left
we lost

>>186278106
Is that penny chick good? I like her fat tits.

>>186278472
If its not Kyle its not good

Is there some trick to finding all the bonus survivors in a Rescue the Survivors mission?

The worst are those random shelters that you have to go into the trigger the survivor to spawn, that shit is impossible to fucking find.

>>186278680
Have all 4 people actually looking for survivors instead of gathering shit/AFKing

>>186278190
Learn to carry

>>186276519
From a game design standpoint: when dealing with many different sources of modifiers, it's easier to balance current and future content if the modifiers are additive. It also helps prevent gigantic number syndrome, where stuff like health and damage are inflated to values in the thousands and millions very quickly.
And from a programming perspective: adding a bunch of times and then multiplying once is much, much more desirable than multiplying multiple times; both in performance and extensibility.

>>186278472
Penny is gr8, the melee bonuses are nice too if you're in to that playstyle. Everyone's all about Kyle, but really, you just have to know how to place your BASE effectively.

Most sods don't center it for maximum coverage, nor place it a floor or two above so it can reach multiple levels.

>4-story build
>Places BASE at ground floor
>Lobbers destroy the roof easily

That's not the fault of lacking BASE radius, that's just a bad constructor player. Placement is everything, and Penny gets plenty of tiles to be viable. Not to mention you can still move it around if the storm direction changes... people tend not to capitalize on that. I have the Build HP Regen slotted on mine, my shit never dies and the melee Hardware procs are laughably useful (I'm in Canny atm.) You haven't lived until you've stun-locked smashers and takers so they can't do shit. Mr.Red is my best friend.

So, while Kyle still gets the Overload skill for melee, he doesn't get the 25%DMG / 20%CRIT / 70%CRITDMG bonuses for it. Kyle also doesn't get the 20% shield/HP buffs to make him more viable in a melee situation, nor the 25% damage reflect when shields are up. But otherwise their ability sets are similar (BASE, Bull, Plasma), it's just Kyle is more "I give my builds steroids" and Penny is more "I build, but I also fuck everything up around my base and I'm harder to kill."

It's a playstyle thing, neither characters are bad. ..Can't speak for the other Constructors though.

>>186280885
Knox is full on MASSIVE auto repair BASE with resource generation, decoys and he can stun with hardware when he needs to.
Really fun guy.

Is the terrain for your main base in Stonewood / Plank etc randomly generated or does every player have the same terrain?

>>186281471
As far as I can tell all storm shield areas are exactly the same for everyone.

>Its a vindertech episode where the event is triggered prematurely.

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About to purchase this... one question

How bad is the slot machin/ loot crate reliance in this? I heard you can loose access to your weapons if you 'upgrade' them and can no longer find material to replace them?

If I just keep weapons at a lower upgrade rank/level I can keep repairing/ remaking them easy enough right?

>>186283407
I wouldn't say that it's too bad. Honestly I don't know what the whole llama-rng fuzz is about.

You don't loose access to your weapons if you evolve them. You can upgrade weapons from level 1-10, then you have to evolve it so you can upgrade it from 10-20 etc. When you evolve a weapon the crafting items you need will be more rare. A good rule of thumb is to keep them at 1 star (level 1-10 in the first zone Stonewood). Then when you enter the next zone Plankton you evolve it to 2 stars (10-20).

>>186283645

Thanks. Last question, if I buy the cheapest edition, can i pay the difference to upgrade to a more expensive version?

>>186283407
>How bad is the slot machin/ loot crate reliance in this?
Its possible to play but things will harder if you don't have really good ways to keep up in terms of damage.
When they first came out with the llama's a like a year ago I didn't pay anything and I will say things did get pretty hard but I don't think I did a very good job with keeping things like offense up

I heard you can loose access to your weapons if you 'upgrade' them and can no longer find material to replace them? when you level a weapon up pass 10/20/30 and so on the things you need yo make them go up a tier to so in this case you start with copper from 1-10 then 10-20 you need sliver and so on (along with the next rank in the other things you find via going around the map)

>If I just keep weapons at a lower upgrade rank/level I can keep repairing/ remaking them easy enough right?

Yeah but after a point you won't be doing enough damage to keep up but most likely as you get in higher power levels you will start to find the things you need to make the higher grade weapon

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>>186283407
It's not that hard to avoid.
Basically don't evolve to 2 star before you can find silver reliably (early Plankerton) and don't go to 3 stars before you can find Malachite easily (End of Plankerton/start of Canny Valley)

As for the loot crate reliance, yeah it's basically the only way to get new equipment.
Without paying extra money you'll find the rate of loot slows to a trickle around the end of the first area of the game.

The game itself is quite fun but it's clearly set up to goad whales into buying tons of RNG boxes when it releases free to play.

>>186283737
yes

>>186266830
Can't vouch for other elements but fire bees are extremely fucking rare but exist. Touch one even slightly and you're basically burning to death or sitting at 5 hp.

>>186283907
So damn glad I got a legendary bazooka with crit rate and damage.
Everything after that is just icing at this point.

>>186285184
>wasting your powercells and silver so badly
You could have gotten 3ish blues that'd do the same job for the cost of 2 of those.
t. blue 100% crit rolled rocket launcher owner

>>186285692
Looks like someone hasn't gotten their Support Specialist yet.

>>186285692
316 silver 521 cells 379 malachite
I'm fine, I usually shoot when my grenadier grenades are on CD

>>186286374
god damn how do you get so much? are you in plankerton still?

>>186287632
Anon he replied to. That's a fairly normal amount.

>>186287728
really? i only have a little over 200 silver, less than 100 cells and less than 50 mala

>>186287856
are you mid-plank?

>>186287632
I'm in mid'ish canny valley

>>186287892
im on page 8 or 9 of the story quest in plakerton so i guess?

>>186287964
ah ok

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I did some testings. Ranges are given because making yourself do exact amounts of arbitrary damage values is hard. Everything fits quite well with 19 lightning bolt stuff having 3.3 times as much hp as 9 lightning bolt stuff. I figure I'll spend a few more hours sometime this week at a different level to get a third data point to see if I can fit a formula to it.
Bees have the same hp as husks, but have 20% damage resistance while they have the beehive on.
Propane tank fatties have the same hp as normal fatties.

As an aside, has anybody done any testing to find out the base HS damage modifiers for weapons and posted it anywhere?

>>186288776
I guess I should also note that I didn't bother to change my offense to make my weapons do integer values of damage. If the game rounds your final damage like the display does, then it didn't matter. If it actually tracks damage/hp to the tenths, hundreths, etc. place despite displaying the rounded number, then I could potentially be off by a tiny bit. I'll try to make my damage whole integers next time I give this a go.

>11 for the price of 10 upgrade llamas
>we'll allow you to buy seven of these packages

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Stick with the wasp or go with the raptor? Since this damn game never wants to give me the guns I actually want.

>>186278472
>tfw standing next to a wall and positioning the camera to see Penny's fatass tits while I afk in base

Is Energy the only good damage type to roll into?

>>186295485
No, it's just the least grindy for the benefits it provides.

>>186277992
Hell, even making transform worthwhile would be something (yes i know you get permanent epic keys if you bought the Deluxe Jew Edition) but most people did not

Why for example can't we use inventory items like unwanted ore or chest weapons to transform, and why the hell is there an added cost along with the items you trade for

>>186280885
>tfw want to play Penny but have the shittiest Doomhammer ever rolled

>>186292842
Those Wasp rolls are incredibly bad

>>186294326

>talk about Penny's tits
>doesn't post screenshot

Why are you teasing us anon?

>>186298231
just pick Penny in your home base and find a wall

>>186295994
I hope they give you guys perm epic keys so that I'll get perm legendary keys :^)

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>>186298231

>>186303732
Penny and Hype are so perfect.

>>186303732
>>186303846
Fuck both of them. Headhunter and the redhead are the cutest.

>>186305907
Headhunter is definitely up there with Penny and Hype because of how absolutely cute she is. This game is kind of shitty right now but some of the waifus are ace.

>>186303846

Banshee is making things in my pants, i don't know why

>>186307559
Banshee's mouth is a bit too wide for me, actually I think a lot of the characters have that problem where their mouths are too wide, it looks weird.

>>186280885
Powerbase is absolute god tier when it comes to beefing up your base. I'm glad the constructor you get from the limited edition is powerbase.

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>>186312092
>opted for the soldier from my megagoy edition
>really want to play constructor now
>best I have is an epic hotfix

>>186313215
Hotfix isnt so bad

Jonesy is underrated husbando

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>Got an epic auto shotgun in my welcome jew pack (Bearcat or some shit)
>10 ammo capacity and insane RoF, but eats ammo
>Been my trusty sidekick ever since
>Get an epic Over-Under Shotgun in a llama
>Looks bad on paper, only slightly more damage than the auto one, only 2 ammo and takes about 9 weeks to reload
>mfw it's even worse in practice than on paper, does not kill shit and can't even knock over the fat husks

Am i missing something here?

>>186318052
Sounds like you got some shit rolls, anon.

Who do i have to fuck/kill to find nice traps in my next llama?

>>186318052
The OU shotguns blow ass at basically everything, but the SxS ones are fucking great at crowd control and imo fun as FUCK to bully husks with.

I want Kyle to build a house for us to live in

>>186265317
Why should I buy this game now if it's going to be a f2p in a year?

>>186319650
I don't think your missing out on much if you wait

>>186319650
Game might be vastly different by the time it is released to the masses. If I was you, I'd probably just wait.

>>186319650
>>186319984

Or it might be dead at this point, your call.

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So I'm about halfway through Plankerton and all of a sudden my exp gains have just become abysmal. I used to get a whole level or damn near after every mission but now I'm lucky to get a notch or two.

>>186322489
You need to do missions that say "You are Underpowered for this mission"

>>186318052
the over under and DB are pretty much crowd control shottguns, OU is a narrow cone that goes farther than DB, which is a much wider cone at less range

>>186322786

Can I unequip some survivors or something? I lucked out with the troll truck a yesterday and got 3 mythic leads so I'm sitting at power level 34 and everything available is 28. I mean I've got my next SSD coming up so I guess that will fix everything.

>>186322489
Is the EXP bug still there? Where at the end of the mission it will say you gained like 3k exp and when you go back to the main screen you actually gained more than that.

>>186324764
No, that's not how that works. You have a Commander level based on how many skill points you've gained. When you reached a certain point, the lower power level mission will give little to no exp. It's a wall that says, "Do higher level shit or receive no exp."

>>186324864
I believe it's rare, but can still possibly occur.

>>186326010
It still happens to me after every match, I haven't seen a skill point gained at the end match screen for a day or two but back in the main menu I have 11 saved up

here's a question, does the amount of building materials you get from breaking things go up per zone? because it felt like i started getting more stuff when i jumped from stonewood to plankerton

>>186326464
Things have more health

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>>186303732
>>186303846
I've always been a sucker for big tits/ass and I love midriff, but for some reason I just can't love anyone as much as I love playing the original soldier. It's the tanktop, I find it irresistibly sexy. I think I've finally accepted I have a thing for armpits, hell if I know why. I've always been an olfactophile so I guess it was just a matter of time

I just hope people don't judge me for playing the starting class.

>>186328483
Ramirez is pretty solid

>give gf extra code
>shes generally unaware of anything happening around her and is terrible at the game
what do i do

>>186328772
Cherish her

>>186328772
Let her get SMASHER'D

>>186328483
She looks like a more mexican Lara Croft. Though your armpit fetish is degenerate.

>it's an outlander joins game and does nothing episode
Getting tired of all these reruns

>>186328483
>tfw no shirtless kyle hero
I'd pay good money

>>186329157
Exactly. People pay way more for lewd outfits and stuff then they do for anything else. They really made a mistake not making it a cosmetics shop.

>>186329085
>wasting ammo/resources/durability unless absolutely necessary

How's the cuck life these days?

>>186329260
>Missions give vbucks and upgrade llamas
>Timed missions give the special llamas like people llamas and such
>New llama called the cosmetic llama that is only bought with vbucks
>Gives different clothing items
There the game is saved. Thats all that is needed. But it will never happen because tencent are JEWS

>>186328483
Have you seen Assault Headhunter? I think she's better than Ramirez is pretty much every way.

>>186328974
Foot/armpit isn't degenerate, neither is being attracted/aroused by smell. It's literally instinct, the top of your head, your armpits, your groin and your feet are the highest concentration and release of hormones, and everyone is unique. It's part of how we are sexually drawn to one another on a subconscious level. Technically speaking, basic anal sex is more "degenerate" because it neither serves nor is served by any instinctual drive.
You'll understand when you're older.

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>>186329879
>degenerate footfag tries to tell others what's degenerate

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>>186330292
>I don't like something so I get to create definitions for it
Stay uninformed, vanillafag.

So how does this game work exactly? I just finished the argo mission and I'm still kind of confused as to how the mutliplayer works, is it all part of a story that you can co-op? Or is it a survival mode? And how does the building work in multiplayer, I'm really concerned I'm going to get in between autist shrieking contests over defenses, and I'm insanely nervous to try

Does "building cost reduction" apply to upgrades and repairs or is it just the base pieces you slap down? I got an epic Knox so it's time to get serious about constructing.

>>186331658
It also applies to upgrades and repairs

>>186329338
Kill yourself Jess user

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>>186329338
Spotted the outlander cuck. What's wrong? Didn't get a real class in your jew caches?

>>186333453
>literally "no u"

lmao

>>186334138

>>186329157
Just wait until next summer's event featuring swimsuit heroes

>>186335109
>bikini penny
Goodbye 50% of this thread

>>186318052
>Play Hype and plant Decoy
>Have epin bearcat
>Uses like four shots to kill due to bad range
>Use Over under/ Double barrel
>RIP AND TEAR horde

25 minutes to disappointment.

>>186329085
This I hate.
>>186329338
Someone is a shitter Outlander who does nothing but avoid conflict and lets Survivors die in any given situation.
The idea of wasting durability is silly since unless you're trying to use Malachite weapons at present, you don't need to worry about durability in the slightest. Loot is so prevalent that raw mats for weapons is negligible.

>>186328483
Not usually into armpits but that's hot as fuck.

>>186330945
Can't remember the last time I saw someone post a poju image on 4chan, damn.

>>186335525
I hate that I can't find many reasons to play Hype over Penny, she's easily my favorite Constructor girl.

Trap llama, go home

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Trap llama

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>>186329085
I usually do this on easy missions where I can just use my weapon to do most of the work all by myself at the last second
am i a bad person?

>>186338810
honestly?
As long you did something and it fucking worked I don't care

>want to play Fortnite
>my friend has it
>he wants to play
>i literally get no XP, no nothing for playing with him
>don't really want to play

Why did they do this.

>>186268562 >>186270025
>>186270354 >>186272520
would you say then, in general, that a safe summary of ranged weapon stats would be:

> if you can aim worth a damn
headshot damage > crit chance > crit damage > damage > *

> if you can't aim, or use weapons that can't hit shit even if you do aim
crit chance > crit damage > headshot damage / damage > *

>>186338259
>>186338290
welp, no need to login today since I already collected my research earlier

>>186338810
>That smokestack on your cap
I made a mushroom. Worked great.

>>186338810
you're wasting a fuckton of materials that you'll have to farm up each mission, but if it works for you, why not?

I prefer checkerboard pattern of floor spikes myself

>>186330292
But anon that's the actual definition of degenerate. Buttsex was so degenerate it was made illegal in a shitload of states a long time ago, and queers still can't get married because people can't handle the fact that butt stuff exists. Nobody ever made a law about enjoying the way a woman smells.

>>186338810
If this game is anything like Kill All Orcs, enemy hordes always find the path of least resistance (Going around a wall instead of breaking it down)
With this setup, a monster going straight towards the center would only walk over 4-5 squares, but if you made a path with walls they were forced to traverse you could get much more garunteed damage.
In fact, if you kept that current design, and made a spiral of walls towards the center, you'd ensure the horde would have to cross every single square.

Seriously as a KaO fanatic who dumped way too much time into the MoBa version this game makes me palpably moist and I can't wait for the release.

>>186340446
>no need to login
Get your login rewards

>blue weapons literally go through half their HP per mission now

Fuck this game.

>>186342073
It's not quite that simple. The mobs naturally want to take the shortest path, even if that means going through walls. However, total barrier HP seems to be taken into account so you can create kill corridors, just not with a single layer of walls.

I've got 3 extra friend codes. Gift me, let's say, Company of Heroes 2 on steam ($20) and one of them is yours.

>>186342686
Gotta upgrade your shit man, especially with "weak" rares. Survivor squads are significantly more important than they would be if you were letting legendary weapon stats carry you.

Why are Wildcat and Headhunter so cute.

>>186343335
My blues are all level 20 at 2 star

>>186344431
I'm saying blues have ~10% lower overall stats than purple, which have ~10% lower overall stats than orange.

You're at a 15-20% deficit just by using blues, which you really need to crank survivor squad levels up to counter.

Patch 1.4.6
>Fixed an exploit preventing item durability loss
Well that got fixed fast. So who told them?

>>186345308
what was the exploit? i tried switching to my pickaxe before i died and all my weapons still took durability loss

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alright guys how do I maximise my crafting materals and minimise wasted mats? I'm starting to feel the need to grind for wooden planks and tears. Gizmo/bolts I dont have issues with though.

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Just ran my first Shelter mission over here
Please tell me there aren't any mission types actually worse than this, holy fuck

>>186345427
You need take them out of your inventory when you are down.

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Got my first legendary trap from a daily box. Are dynamos good? I had a blue before this and it seemed to be alright. I know about the rolls but I gues its not too bad for a trap.

>>186346028
They're best used in the same way wall spikes are used. Dynamos have VERY low range

>>186346265
Okay thanks for the tip. And by low you mean 1 tile?

>>186342686
Buy llamas goy, you might get some purples

>>186346617
No they don't even reach one full tile. You know when you try to make a floor piece and you can cut it in half? That half piece is the range on the Dynamo.

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>you will never get a POWERBASE

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>tfw hotfix used to be better looking

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>>186349536
>you will never get a Headhunter

>>186349832

No I got one of those. Legendary too.

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>>186349536
>Not owning the best powerbase

>>186350181

MEGABASE is better because you can just get auto-repair from the tactical squad slot, gaining build speed and building health in exchange for the minimal resource generation.

>>186350181
>goy power base
Fuck I want to, I can too, I could problebly also sell the keys to make some money back from the purchase hnnnnnngggg, someone talk me out of it.

>>186350513
Yeah well I cant buy my way to MEGABASE no matter how much I would love to. Meanwhile faggots in leddit, the forums and discord are pulling him out of their 4th upgrade llama. Not knowing how powerful he truly is. I wish death to them.

>>186350531
If you have nothing else to work towards what's the point of playing?

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>>186351023

>I cant buy my way to MEGABASE

Oh contrair monfrair.

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>>186351315
Nice try Tencent, if the fuck huge whales who spend 3000 dollars can pull only like 2-3 mythics then I'm not biting.

>>186350513
Tradeoffs for megabase over powerbase:
You lose DECOY and gain Bull Rush.
You lost 6%DR, building regen, and resource generation in return for faster build speed, damage field, building hp, and a higher base ability/healing modifier (1.07 vs 0.93).
With the ability to get the regen in the tactical slot, the higher ability mod and more hp/shield I could definitely see it being better. Though if someone loves to use decoy over bull rush, the differences are small enough to be fine with either or.

>>186352372

I could have sworn MEGA got the damage reduction too but I don't have the game open. Where's that spreadsheet anon to break down whether 6%DR or 15%HP is better?

>>186352765
>Where's that spreadsheet anon to break down whether 6%DR or 15%HP is better?
Building HP bonuses are additive and always add a static amount, but that amount will differ depending on the base hp of the building. And the DR should be a percentage decrease, meaning relative to the building hp bonus it gets better the more damage the enemy does (and worse the less damage the enemy does). I should be able to find the intersection between these two variables where DR=HP for each building HP base. But I don't play constructor so I have zero drive to go through with the effort.

>I will never get Legendary Headhunter, Penny, or Hype

>>186354608
I have legendary Hype but people said she was shit compared to Penny so I'm not wasting any exp to level her

>>186354802
I know, but she's really cute.

>>186355039
That's debatable.

>>186355652
>>186355039
>>186354802
Bear hat though, right?

>>186351471
I've spent about 550 in total, currently have 5 mythic lead survivors, zero mythic heroes, but a fuckton of legendary survivors/heroes/weapons/etc

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prematurely starting the vindertech research center event.

>>186355652
She's much cuter than the other Constructor girls.

>>186357317
That's also, debatable.

>>186357597
then who do you think is the cutest?

>>186357682
Kyle

>>186357935
Kyle isn't a girl.

>>186358353
He's best girl and best boy

I refuse to believe they spent 6 years on this game.
They said canny isn't finished, but failed to admit plankerton isn't either.

Why the fuck do they have 4 zones if all 4 look like stonewood at this point?

>>186359761
they have no plans to finish the game if you havent figured it out by now

>>186359834
Everything points to that for sure

>playing Outlander
>use bear near a baby husk that's attack a Survivor
>baby husk somehow hits the bear
>one shots it

lmao this fucking class

>>186361459
Llama bot if they're cooperative or a leeching shit bag otherwise

>>186359972
Basically they were tired of it bleeding money and decided to just gut the golden goose, collect as much money as they can and then run. Soon it'll be put on maintenance mode (if it isn't already) with a skeleton crew of """devs""", with a couple of big updates near the F2P launch to squeeze the last few shekels they can out of it, then official dedgaem.

is it true they are selling physical copies of the game already for consoles without marketing it as early access?

>>186366184
Probably. Go outside and check in a store, then tell us.

How does one even find the Troll Stash after you get a Troll Key?

>>186366232
>Go outside
nice joke anon

>>186366184
I hurd about that. I think it may be true. Also they are selling it on the market on consoles without saying it's early access.

>>186366543
it just appears randomly i think , look for a chest with purple smoke and a cardboard cutout of a troll next to it

>>186366543
>>186368935
I asked people to tell me if they found a spooky chest they couldn't open.

>Go to Plankerton Defense 2
>Finish reinforcing main base thinking it's just like Stonewood 2
>Just now realize it requires first Amp
Well fuck. Time to farm, I guess. New missions for me another day.

So I did more HP testing. Gained new information. Assuming that enemies do not have a variable HP range and always have the same exact amount of HP: Despite displaying damage done as whole integers, the game does keep track of at least the tenths place*.

I had set my offense to be 100 in a lightning bolt level 1 mission, and using the handmade assault rifle (24.0 dmg) killed a boner in two body shots (48 damage). However, using an auto pistol, snakebite (32 dmg), I shot a boner in the head at near range for 48 displayed damage, wherein he didn't die. I later killed another boner with a snakebite headshot in 1 hit at basically point blank range. Basically, auto pistols have a really shitty range and experience damage dropoff even at ~1 tile distance, even if it's incredibly tiny.

*: Now while this (should) confirm the damage done displayed being rounded while the game tracks damage in non-whole numbers, this doesn't tell us that a weapon that says it does 24.5dmg per hit will do 49 damage over two hits while displaying 50. It's possible weapon damage is rounded to a whole number and then only fall off can make it non-whole.
I'll try to do do some tests focused towards figuring out which one of the two cases it is.

>>186373870
godspeed

>>186373870
You're doing great work in place of things the Developers should've told us.

>>186373870
Well that was easy. Lowered my offense to 99, which lowers the handmade assault rifle damage to 23.9 (23.88?) and shot a boner twice. It listed 24 and 24, but it stayed alive.
So yeah, assuming mob hp doesn't have variance, damage is tracked to the tenths place even with no dropoff.

This kind of makes all the hp testing I did yesterday unreliable. Well, rather than unreliable it's just that the ranges may be off by +/- 3 hp for the weaker enemies and a bit more for the higher hp enemies. I guess I'll try to redo some of it.
This also means I can't use damage falloff to create damage values I don't have access to, which saddens me. It's a shame limited inventory space has lead to me getting rid of a majority of my "inferior" schematics.
I now also need to find a way to check my pickaxe damage, since the damage done is technically unreliable for the exactness of the test I'm trying to do. ;_;

Anybody know offhand if there's an internet "calculator" out there where I can put in a target number and a set of other numbers, and receive a list of combinations which add up evenly to the target number?

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>stairs for defense
I don't understand

>>186375423
You don't get paid to understand, pajama monkey. Go back to your beekeeping like a good girl

>>186375519
Nigger I main a power BASE. I have a ninja quest to finish.

>>186375572
Your shinobi tricks won't work on me, beeposter

>>186375423
he's confused about the sandwich build, and using stairs instead of ramps

>3rd stonewood base expansion
>Playing by myself
>Start glitching around for some reason, think my computer is taking a shit
>It stops so I start the wave
>"You have lost connection to the host"
...But I'M the fucking host.
How do I lose connection with myself

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>>186375679
Come say that to my face fgt I'll give you the BBC

>>186375423
I think it allows them to place more things in the same amount of space? like wall stiars slope/roof?

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>Be outlander doing bomb with 2 soldiers and a other outlander
>move bomb etc etc get to the base and start building
> soldier has a shredder starts putting up dumb shit with a build cap of 85 me and other soldier take it down
>soon after he makes something else and moves pass the build cap when we was more or less done
>Start launch and he some how does 10 seconds in saying "gg we lost"
>I get him up and me and the other soldier carry for the rest of the def with shredder guy never getting pass 1k points somehow.

I be honest I never used that weapon but I always hear that fucking one shots everything.

>on page 9 of plankerton quests
>still manage to run out of silver constantly.
For every silver vein I find on a map there are 7 crystal quartz veins. I have 4 stacks of copper, 24 malachite, 67 active power cells, and only 1 fucking silver. Am I getting unlucky with these caves or is there another method to finding it?

>>186378591
I don't try to but all my bets just on the vains what I tend to do is if I start to fall around 10~ or so silver I go around and just do missions that just give that. also give that copper to someone in stone wood

>>186378591
You remember how people meme'd about Expeditions being trash? Here's a tip for you: Supply Caches. They give stupid amounts of Copper and Silver ore constantly. Fuck running around and farming that shit.

>>186374863
So I've got decent numbers for Husk/Boner/Fatty at level 1. Gonna try to redo the tests for 9 and 19 sometime later.
I was using damage falloff shenanigans to confirm some hp totals and ended up going off on a huge tangent and spent a bunch of time testing damage falloff itself. And oh boy, you guys are going to LOVE what I'm seeing. I still want a few more data points to confirm how I think it works before I tell you guys, but I'll give you a sneak peak: I recorded damage falloff at a range of 3 tiles with a 4096 range AR.

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>>186381327
Forgot to link the image.

Anybody remember the order in which enemies were introduced? I can't remember if pitchers came before or after fatties. And if bees came before or after lobbers.

>>186382505
bees and lobbers come at the same storm shield, fatties have no intro, but hank hills do

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Yay or nay?

>>186383958
Shitty rolls on the zapo?

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>>186384017
The best stats.

>>186384301
Recoil is shit, yeah. Durability is personal taste, but I don't care for it on this gun too. Don't treat damage rolls as bad on this gun though.
You need to utilize the charged shots for this gun though, so if you don't like the feel of using it then since the rolls aren't omgwtfbbq amazing they pretty much don't matter.

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>>186383958

Well what the fuck did you get?

>still on page 8 of plankerton

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>>186386145
Fuck all.

>>186386884
mmmMMMM, honey! You got the best bicycle in town now!

>>186386884
>healthy

mmm yeah gurl

>>186386884
Eyy I got that one too. She masters in baits. If you know what I mean.

rip

You know I never know why people want Super Llamas every day or in closer cycles. It would literally force you to buy V-Bucks if you wanted one every time they came up.

>>186386884
Why aren't the other Constructor girls as useful as Penny?

How is constructor plasma pulse like 20x better than the Outlander one? And it doesn't use fragments.

>>186393196
Outlanders are just garbage right now. Shit abilities, shit shard system, promotes greed.

>>186386884
Honestly Harper is pretty cute for a black chick.

>>186393340
I just don't get it. They haven't change the whole fragment thing since alpha.

>>186393630
Honestly, I think they wanted a "meme" class for all the hate to be focused on and compared against so they kept them shit. Instead they got Ninja's.

>>186393630
I could even forgive the Fragment system if the Fragment abilities weren't absolute fucking trash.

>Resource Llama overrides combat Fragments for some fucking retarded reason
>Bear as shit DPS and dies in one hit to anything
>Shock tower is bad but slightly better than bear

>>186394058
>drop my bear in front of a charger
>fire-rate monsoons already pre-spun up
>watch as he literally disappears from existence before he has a chance to do his animation

>>186391808

>something's shiny, quick have to spend money!

I'd rather have them more frequently available so i don't have to sit on my v-bucks for an eternity just to have a chance to gamble for one of the 20+ legendary heroes.

>>186394058
I wish fragments just enhanced their abilities the more fragments they got.

>>186394895
>something's shiny, quick have to spend money!

There are people in this general that spent real money with the Troll Truck Llama came up.

What is the best way to farm gizmos besides being a houselooting shitbag?

Encampments?

>>186396469
city/industrial zones and open toolboxes/red tool crates

>>186396469
Check your mums drawers and under her mattress and inside toolboxes and cities and shit heavy in metal things like airconditioners and such.

Hype = Penny > Harper > Izza
Heathunter > Wildcat > Ramirez > Banshee

Kyle Knox > Hype = Penny > Harper > Izza
Headhunter > Wildcat > Ramirez > Banshee

>>186404806
>>186404238
Banshee should be above ramirez. Dare I say ramirez is the worst looking female.

>>186406421
you shut your whore mouth

>>186407308
>>186406421
Lets be realistic here shall we?
Kyle=black kyle>ramirez=bangshee>and the rest.
Evidence WILL be require if you attempt to refute these facts.

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BALANCE 1.4.7
- Adjusted the mix of mission types in Twine Peaks
>The change is aimed at adjusting the variety of mission difficulty while work is done on additional content

- War Cry - Ability
>Ranged Rate of Fire reduced from 50% to 40%
>Melee Rate of Fire reduced from 20% to 16%
>Weapon Damage reduced from 50% to 40%
>Rate of Fire and Damage buff effects of War Cry combine multiplicatively (you deal increased damage, and you do so more often)
>War Cry was not initially balanced with this in mind
>War Cry has been rebalanced to account for multiplicative Rate of Fire and Damage buff effects
>Also adjusted with average downtime of weapon reloads in mind

- Fight or Flight - Perk
>War Cry damage buff reduced from 65% from 10%
>Fight or Flight will now increase the War Cry damage buff to 50% from 40%

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>>186409894

Guess I'm switching to Deadeye. I wonder if they'll exchange my now shitty founders soldier for the constructor if I make a big enough fuss.

>>186409894
>Twine Peaks
There are people who managed to finish Canny Valley?
>Slightly nerf Warcry, but make it stack
Well, 3 Soldiers is even better now.

>>186409894
Soldiers and Constructors will still be the only classes worth playing.

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AHHHHHHHHHHHH

>>186413413

>49 loot cards

kys

>>186413413
Ninja.
There's a chance you get a cutie one!

>>186413413
Soldier theres a higher chance you won't get a ninja.

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https://www.epicgames.com/fortnite/forums/fortnite-discussion/general-discussion/45813-development-priorities

>>186416845
How long will it take for them to even finish the game? Only the first zone is somewhat complete while the remaining 3 zones are not even close to be done.
Will this game actually ever have a full release?

They've worked 6 years on the game and is only done with the first zone that's by far the tiniest zone also.

I'm enjoying the Unexpected Server Disconnect mode they just dropped. Anyone know how to opt out of this mode?

>>186418794
Same here

>>186417602
It's been common knowledge the game will launch in 2018 for quite some time. Understand we're playing /through/ the development process via early access; exercise patience and rationale. If this was 5 years ago we'd be waiting for an unrefined (minimal community input) launch like other games on the market which will put the end result entirely in the developer's hands without help from the community/players to work out flaws, kinks, and other bullshit that isn't well received.

If you don't like the game in its current state, just wait for updates to roll out and indulge it at a later date.

>>186421116
I bought the game in a store and nowhere did it say it was in early access

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>Play Penny.
>Find a Mine.
>See an Ore node on the ceiling.
>Don't want to waste resources building stairs.
>Decide to just look up as far as my cam will go and jump to hit it.
>Can just barely reach it.
>Penny's fat ass taking up half my screen as if she's bouncing on my face every time she jumps.
>Missing swings due to this distraction.
>Am I even still mining at this point?
>Realize the node's been gone for a while now, still jumping.
>Achieve a sense of urgency and proceed with resource farming to move on with the mission, can always fantasize later.
>Find another on the ceiling 10ft away.

The Devs had to know this would happen.

>>186378591
>Keep doing those 300+ power hero expeditions with only a 20% chance of success
>They keep succeeding
>Get like 40+ silver every time
WORKING THE SYSTEM

>>186422510
>find some traps
>"I've been waiting for you~"
>active Rush
>sometimes she'll do a very soft "Yes~"

They knew what they were doing.

Why are survivors so common in llamas but not heroes. I truly hate tencent

>>186425349
Which in theory should be a good thing for you because Survivors are how you level up in any meaningful way. But the way they handled Heroes makes people hate getting Survivors.

>War Cry nerfed
JUST

>>186425349
why the fuck can't I just combine multiples of a lower rarity into a higher rarity?

>>186425864
Sodliers are still the best class in the game.

>>186426057
Well of course. The only way they would be bad is if they literally removed all their perks to ranged weapons.

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My friend got this, lucky fucker.

>>186425864
Don't worry they made it stack. Suddenly me and my buddies all playing soldier pays dividends.

>>186426368
Translate these jumbled words

>>186427958

21% crit chance
20% headshot damage
21% crit chance
-30% recoil
+24% fire rate

>>186428095
Damn thats pretty hot. I would just replace the recoil for reload speed or magazine size

>>186425864
Solo, War Cry is weaker. Partied up with other Warcry Soldiers, it's way stronger.
3 Epic/Legendary Banshee at Level 30 all popping their Warcry within range of each other yield a huge boost.
>2.744 multiplier on Fire Rate instead of 1.5 (Ranged)
>1.56 on Melee up from 1.2
>3.375 Weapon Damage multiplier instead of 2.15
>For 15 seconds every minute
Before, it was up to 45 seconds every 60 second cycle.

>best constructor is black
>best ninja is black
>best soldier is black
>best outlander is arabwhite

>>186429275
>best constructor is black
MEGABASE kyle is black?

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>>186429275
>best constructor is black

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>>186429364
>>186429452

Kyle ain't got shit on Knox.
He makes ladies wet and husks shit themselves.

>>186429782
Kyle is a stallion

>>186429782
Tyrone please go.

>>186429275
>MEGABASE Kyle
>Shuriken Master Sarah

>>186430152
>Not Dim Maki

>>186430262
I have no experience with Dim Mak Mari what makes her good?

>>186430559
Powerful Dragon Slash Smoke bomb combos with considerable cost reductions in addition to extended duration smoke bomb. All around very good. Only 2 good Ninjas and for wildly different reasons.

>>186432510
both suck
dragon scorch is the best by far

>>186433903
>dragon scorch
How's Stonewood treating 'ya?

>>186428649
warcry doesn't stack, retard

>>186436917
You idiot, the patch today makes it stack.

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>tfw there's a first person toggle in the settings
can't see your weapons or hands though

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>by some ridiculous stroke of luck or the hand of god himself pull a legendary deadeye from an upgrade llama
>best pistol I have is a founders vendetta with 2 +fire rate, -durability decay and nature element rolls

>>186438140
>Cant look down and see Penny's tits in first person dropped

>>186439586
Penny is the perfect package, even when you look her up in the Hero screen her tits look nice, soft, and large. Penny and Headhunter being stuck in this game is the true tragedy.

Ranged Weapon Llama.

>>186441208
Good that'll give me more time to grind dailies

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>Ranged weapon llama

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Started doing 52 rank missions and I still don't have a good ranged weapon. This sucks

>kill 500 husks as a ninja daily

STOP

>>186441972
probably going to be the same for me my cute anime friend

>>186442217
Just give into your weeb desires

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>>186441972
>>186442796
give me the mats (and 50 duct tape) and I'll make weapons for you

gotta share the love

>>186443148
I'll note that I also have a legendary deathray, thrasher and deathwing in the works, but I don't have the xp to level them to 20 right now

>>186443148
>Legendary founders
Woah didn't knew that was possible

>>186443541
it's from the ultimate goy special pack - I've spent way too much money on this game, fuck

>>186375423
You can put a 2x1 floor under it which acts as a wall; then put a wall in front of that; then put a wall behind it. It's 4 pieces the mobs have to kill instead of 1

>>186443148
>50 duct tape
most people just throw the shit at you or do it for the mats period. Hell i just do it for the cost of silver and gizmo/energy cell. The games owned by jews it doesn't need more of them infesting it.

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>>186443148
>That shredder

>>186443740
hey man I burn through the shit like fucking nothing just by building floor spikes to help carry matches

50 is a bit much, yeah

>>186443781
rip

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This one turned out pretty alright

Anyone want to help me out with plankerton ssd 5? IGN is OuchStopIt

>>186444120
>no durability rolls

>>186443627
Luckily I got my copy from a friend who got the triple pack thing. And then I bought 2.5k jewcoins

>>186444617
>entirely forget i preordered andromeda's super jew edition in my ME rose tinted lens hype at local gamestop
>get a call saying i have store credit
>just buy psn money cards
>use "free" money to upgrade to super jew edition from the free deluxe edition i got for helping them crowdfund way back when that i also forgot i did.

>>186445839
Oy vey delete this

>>186445839
>actually buying me Andromeda
>pre-ordering
>playing on console
>still went jew on it anyway
Jesus crist I never thought I'd hate someone on first meet.

>>186448308
I got hyped because its mass effect and then i got entirely turned off by their shit so i actually forgot about the preorder so it just turned back into store credit. Figured i had all this PSN only cash burning a hole in my pocket and my buddies are all playing this game so why not buy the super deluxe+$100 upgrade then some llama bucks. FYI don't buy the alien:covenant movie just wait till its on rent. It's barely worth the $5 rental fee.

>>186425864
>>186426578
Having it stack doesn't really help. Playing with randos 90% of the time means I'll never see it stack

>>186375747
I gave up last night because it kept happening and I assumed it was internet or server issues, but I started up again today and it's doing the same thing.
Lagging like fucking crazy, can't do anything, then I get DCd in a SOLO LOBBY

Does anyone know what the fuck is causing this or how to fix it?

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>hey the energy system sucks and a lot of people hate it
>hey some of the dailies are really rng-dependent and can take a long time
>hey melee falls off super hard and half the weapons are garbage
>hey we'd really like other ways to get better loot aside from grinding out 50 coins a day
>hey soldier is really fun, it'd be great if every class was as fun to play as soldier

>SO YOU WANT.....SOLDIER NERF????
haven't seen a dev as mind numbing as this since ubisoft

yeah I know that warcry was broken, but they fixed it and then instantly nerfed it without even seeing what would happen if it functioned normally

>>186451416
I think they want to tone everything down over making everything stronger so misisons have some kind of threat to them

How do I pick something up once I've placed it? Can't figure that out for the life of me, I just want to move a couple traps.

>>186451416
>Yet its a soldier buff if you have multiple soldiers in a party
HMMM

>>186451921
You cant

Whats with hawk players and spamming rpg rockets?

Do gas traps set off propane tanks?

How have they not implemented a vote to kick system yet.

>>186451416
Fucking this, their priorities are insane. Look at this shit >>186416845, they're prioritizing fucking "balance" in a PvE game before actually adding new content and unfucking how asinine it is to actually earn anything. They seriously think that nerfing war cry deserves to be a higher priority than doing things to actually retain players. The real cosmic irony is that the super-deluxe-250-bucks edition soldier is a Banshee, so they went and nerfed one of the main soldiers that they sold the game with, which is gonna make a good number of people quit outright.

It's been said before but I'll say it again; if they don't fix the game with the end-of-august "loot system" update, the game's gonna die, and it's gonna deserve it.

>>186453489
warcry removes durability loss for the duration for hawk players

>>186451416
You haven't seen anything, friend. There are so many changes from Alpha that people fought, but the Developers just DO NOT LISTEN. You can even still see one big one in the little preview videos in the Skill Trees.
>The hex tile map

>plankerton quest page 9

I'm almost there. I'm gonna make it. A legendary hero. And I'll get a Hype or Harper and quit the game. Give it to me straight though, how bad are the rest of the quests?

>>186459949
I am so sorry. You are about to enter the jaws of death and suffering.

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Is this worth leveling if I already have one with a bunch of durability leveled?

Also rate my roll

>>186460945
yes, because the crit one is far superior

retire the other for your exp back or just book it if you don't care

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>>186461153
Okay, thanks. Here's the one I'm comparing to incase anyone is wondering.

>>186459949
im at do 2 40+ evacuate the shelter, and save 25 survivors am i over the hump yet

>>186461475
Go for the crit one

>>186459949
Suffering awaits

PLEASE JUST GIVE ME LEGENDARY PENNY OR HEADHUNTER FUCK

>>186459949
Hype is so cute but god damn I wish her kit wasn't so shit. Why do none of the female Constructors get anything that enhance B.A.S.E. like Kyle?

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>>186381327
>>186381528
Well shit.
Doing the supply Cache was the right call.
Thanks, guy.

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>>186451416
>just leveled my legendary banshee to 30 last night
thanks devs

how often do quests on the map change?
I want to do the van mission for my story quest but i dont want silver ore as one of the mission rewards

>>186468673
I think it's every 3 hours if you just wait.
If you play a mission some number of them will change instantly.

I don't know what this game is but I keep seeing that guy in the OP and it makes me super moist every time.

>>186465621
Electro-Pulse Penny

>Increase BASE connectivity by 1 building piece.
>Increase the damage reflected by BASE by 50%.
>Enemies within the area affected by BASE take damage every 2 seconds.

>>186452062
Are you fucking with me? How is his acceptable?

Also what is up with the inventory, can I not access my inventory or craft in the menus? Can I not store things anywhere? Do I really have to carry around every single material, weapon and trap at all times? This seems ridiculous, I'm going to have to jew out for some extra space soon.