/btgerg/ - BattleTech Giant Extreme Robots General

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>>186188001
First for Black Lanner.

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first for awoo

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>>186188830
I'm not even mad you beat me

Black Lanner is cute

>>186188838
ugly without ears
shit with ears

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>>186189065
It even looks pretty okay when loaded up with the right kinds of cancer.

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>>186188920
the cutest

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>>186189398
Timberyiff remodeling when?
Give it some fatcatmk2 treatment, except the animations.
Catapult got it before, so why not the timberyiff.
We won't be getting seperate hitboxes for ears so it needs more appropriate cancer.
Pic semi related.

>>186190147
but they made the catapult look significantly worse

Guys Lao Hu when?

>>186191378
That's just not true, getting rid of the cancer missile pods was a huge improvement even if you ignore everything else.
And I for one am glad for the shrinking of the cat.

>>186194409
Have you seen the arms of the K2? They aren't even attached to the mech. Or the ballistic slots, machine gun cancer boxes are literally bigger than the cockpit.

>>186194590
Compared to the missile cancer pods I'm just fine with all of that.

>>186195419
But they didn't solve the missile cancer, they simply removed it. Why did they need to remodel the entire mech (that looks worse now) just to remove a previous feature?

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2 and a half hours till new variants are playable.

>estimated three (3) hours of downtime
how

>>186196823
oh
It's even more then

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>leaving out all the other robot stuff in the OP
m80 pls

Armored Core:
http://pastebin.com/Ek3kMtZW (embed)
http://pastebin.com/WSq32Amg (embed)
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/armoredcorevg

The HAWKEN zombie marches on:
https://www.playhawken.com/

Heavy Gear Assault:
http://store.steampowered.com/app/416020

M.A.V. (Now with more Chromehound legal rights!)
http://bombdogstudios.com/blog/

>>186197290
lol get the fuck out

what are the pronouns to address greg?

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>browse youtube for mwo players because I'm a huge cuck and gay as fuck
>Find this OldBob guy
>Shit performance overall, but he uploads these videos, so ingame it has to be even worse
>A whale old man
Makes me sad to think that these people play, and considering they haven't improved by this point, they probably never will.

>>186198767
faggot

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>>186198767

The_B33f is cute! CUTE!!

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>>186197369
>Ignoring our fellow robot brethren
Are you going to tell me we can't even talk about gundam or macross if it somehow comes up in discussion either? Because it isn't BT?

>>186201178
yes, robutts get out this is the memetech general

>>186201178
This thread needs all the discussion it can. It dies prematurely way too often, so, let 'er rip!

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>>186201178
On the one hand, it would be nice. But seriously: how often does anyone ever talk about 'anything' besides MWO here? I've seen maybe three entire posts in three times as many threads. Most of the aformentioned games are dead in the ground or nearly there. On top of that, if I honestly wanted to talk about those kinds of games I'd go to /m/ for it (or /tg/ for Armored Core), because you're not going to get any productive discussions here anyway.

>>186201178
so by your logic, let's include every single video game in history that has had a robot in it

fuck off retard

>>186203039

lets just exclude mwo, it doesnt have to be every game

>>186196820

And one minute after that, we discover a critical hotfix issue.

>>186203039

This is why I said we should rename it /sperg/, for Shit Posting Epic Robots General.

woah

>>186208310
woah

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RRRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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>>186210318

WTF

>>186210318
?????

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>>186210318
Holy shit they simply plugged the hole in the mesh, they didn't fix torso joint displacement at all.

BRAVO PIG

>>186210318
" • Uziel: Fixed a hole in the hips. "
https://mwomercs.com/news/2017/08/1873-patch-notes-14130-15aug2017

>>186210725
uziel is not fixed

>>186210618
The hitboxes are also still the same. Entire front profile is just side torsos.

Good job from PGI as always.

>>186210318
>>186210895
>>186210919
>>186210950
This makes me so happy I didn't buy into this piece of shit. But I did get Cougars

>>186210318
I have never seen a company lack as much effort as PGI

This amount of incompetence is just biblical

>>186210318
what the fuck

>that fucking assymetrical lowered laser box on a new hellbringer torso falls out of the torso model

JESUS FUCK PIGGER GET YOUR SHIT TOGETHER

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>>186212234
This is why.

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>>186212234
>>186210318
swine quality control

>>186212871
>instead of putting largest lasers in the topmost mounts it puts them in the lowest ones no matter how you juggle them

gg

>>186213308
no it doesn't? fuck are you talking about

>>186213365
It does, try it yourself.

>>186213614
the screenshot alone proves you wrong so I have no idea what you are talking about

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>Dude, let's like, give the Mist Lynx 6--no--8 machine guns, and huge armor quirks as far as clams go.
>What could go wrong

>>186210914

With duct tape and chicken wire, apparently.

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>>186214108
Even on the screenshot you can see that large lasers are not symmetrical. Thats where the game puts always them.

>>186214831
check your eyesight, the lasers are symmetrical in >>186212871, that's why they made the left torso the way it is

>>186215031
Everyone can check this in game to see how wrong you are. Are you le trolling by pretending to be retarded?

Anyway it's evident even on the screenshot.

>>186215183
you have brain problems

>>186215360
Again, try this shit in game and report back.

>>186215460
just kys
learn to build robots

>>186215558
>i deny your reality and substitute my own!

Ok come back at me when you check this shit in game and you'll finally understand what I'm taalking about.

What to grab: a double ballistic ebin hero which has high mounts or double ballistic mad dog hero which is my nostalgia darling?

>>186215782
I already posted a screenshot that proves you completely wrong

>>186216279
I was thinking vulture too, per nostalgia ...thing is I'm pretty sure it's an ass mech

>>186216351
Open the mechlab and try putting any large laser in and out. Literally that simple.

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we snova now
http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=212&l=fd88eee9760664acb0b9aa788d13c12ee23fbec0

>>186216632
Just look at the screenshot, literally that simple.

>>186216714
we wuz snova

>>186216560
Yeah that's the gist of it, ebin hero has meta mounts while mad doggo is classic and looks cool with torso ballistics while being inferior in the meta.

Think I'm going to go for muh nostalgia.

>>186216714
>literally a shittier ebj, hbr, tbr

#wow #woah

>>186217492
>shittier tbr
doubt

wew stop dying

How has the patch been today?

>>186222691
Lynx Machine Gun is preddy great.

You know, for all the shitposting about the MDD being a bad mech, I've had a great time with it.

I tried an LRM boat first just based on it's reputation, and did.. Ok with it. I'm just not a big fan of LRMs.

Now I'm running 2 x ATM6 and 2 x HLL and it's great. I don't seem to draw nearly as much fire as I do in my EBJ/TBR. Maybe that's just my confirmation bias, maybe the extra mobility is helping more than I realized, or maybe it's reputation as a shit mech means people prioritize other targets over me. I don't know.

I do know I get solid, consistent performance in it. Not sure if I would enjoy a ballistic build as much desu though. The huge burst damage of the HLL+ATMs, as well as the ability to sneak in an ATM strike over a wall or something here and there I think contributes to the performance a lot. You punch hard and spend a lot of time avoiding fire.

heh

>>186214147
It still dies if you sneeze on it.

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>ran my MDD-A with 4HML and 2ATM9 before the patch hit
>new MDD is quirked to hell and back for this loadout and has the exact hardpoints needed
>30% missile cooldown, 10% heavy laser duration, etc.
>but its all locked in the set-of-8 bonuses, so I have to re-buy the entire 'mech just for the quirks
Well at least I didn't put a pattern on my MDD-A I guess, now I just have to decide if I'm gonna sell it or try to turn it into a heavy laser boat similar to >>186216714.

>>186226516
You can just go 2x atm12 + 6x ersl on any other maddog and only sacrafice 10% cooldown if you use both prime side torsos.

>>186226230
Like most lights that stay put

>>186226947
Yeah, sure, but I really like the heavy mediums. Also you lose more than just 10% cooldown, since the bonuses on the new variant also grant 5% spread reduction, which you can't get without set-of-8 on the prime either, and you can't do 6 lasers and 2 missiles on only prime pods.

I'm pretty much sold on buying the new variant as it is, my only problem now is what to do with my old one. I'm currently testing 2ERLL with 4HML, which is good enough heatwise but the low mounts and lack of arm actuators to cram more heatsinks in is really taking its toll. Only a couple games in though, so I might be able to learn to compensate for it.

>>186223692
>>186226516

Yeah, the H is pretty much perfect for those builds, although you can also fiddle around with other models some.

MDD-H right torso + MDD-Prime left torso gets you 15% velocity, 15% cooldown, which is as fast as you're going to flick missiles at stuff off quirks alone. Lose a little cooldown, gain a little accuracy.

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Not sure if i will enjoy it, or I will enjoy the Spurdo.

>>186227974
I never mentioned mdd-prime set of 8, mdd-prime torsos are 10% cooldown and 5% velocity each by themselves.
You can get the spread reducion on any maddoge, its not set of 8 but part of mdd-H LT qwerks.

>>186229187
>turned out that faggot memech is to hot to boat serious lasers

motherfucker

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>>186229187
>>186229803
>Expects good performance on the GAR-D with a build like that, after being given shoulder energy
baka desu

>EBJ-A now has a -15% UAC/20 jam chance if you use the full pod set
Does this make it worth switching from 6erml+2erll pure laser vomit to a uac/20+added vomit build?

>>186230408

Holy shit, that enemy team.

>98 Damage ANH
>120 Damage MCII

These are the people feeding their cash right into PGI. Why do they do it?

>>186230683
Whales gonna whale

RIP Earnie Munson

>>186229660
>you can get the spread reduction on any maddoge
Yeah, but my point was that I can't get spread reduction if I take both prime side torsos. I know you didn't mention the prime set-of-8, I mentioned it, because that's where the spread reduction is, unless you mix MDD-Prime and MDD-H pods, but why would you do that when you can take all of the MDD-H pods and get some of the best offensive quirks ever seen on a clan 'mech?

>tfw spl will never be good again
>tfw the rise of the 6spl meme ferret will never happen

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>>186230683
>>186230762
>tfw spectated a guy in MCII who was running 4mpl 2srm6
>tfw he was chain-firing the mpls and firing his srms from beyond max range
>tfw I watched him target a kodiak in front of him who had both side torsos open, but the MCII just ignored the target info and tried to facetank while chain-firing into the kodiak's still significantly armored CT

>>186231990
Because you wanna get 6 energy hardpoints anyway.

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>>186232682

>Incursion match
>UZL skirts boundary of map the entire match
>Ends up being the sole survivor against 3 nearly critical enemy mechs
>He's running around their base firing LRMs into the base structures at 80m
>He isn't firing his LBX at all
>Get's gang banged by the last three survivors, never even tries to fire a shot at them.
>Just keeps pumping lrms into the base at below min range.

Just kill me.

>>186234297
It was fun to troll that team.

>>186234012
What? Why would you trade massive missile quirks and four quirked HMLs for way less missile quirks and six quirkless ERSLs?

>>186235470
>WAY less
Not according to numbers

Ersl are a better option
Ermls are, too.

Do ballistic cooldown quirks do anything for RACs?

I kind of want to buy a Rifleman 3N/3C but I'm struggling to come up with a good build.

>>186236823
>Do ballistic cooldown quirks do anything for RACs?
Nope.

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>>186235737
>not way less
Okay, here, let's type it all out. A full set-of-8 MDD-H gets the following:
>-30% missile cooldown
>-5% missile spread
>+10% missile velocity
>-10% heavy laser duration
while your build with one MDD-Prime side torso, one MDD-H side torso, and both 3E arms gets either:
>-15% missile cooldown
>+15% missile velocity
OR
>-15% missile cooldown
>+5% missile velocity
>-5% missile spread
and that's it. I shouldn't have to explain to you why 15% more cooldown is massive, or why having both high velocity and spread reduction is important and good.

Then again, maybe you do need that explained to you, because you somehow think ERMLs are better than HMLs. Seriously, it takes ten seconds to open smurfy and see the DPS and HPS of these weapons, but here, let me post it for you. You don't need the only benefit ERMLs provide, which is range, when you're an ATM boat and want to be close enough to get your 3 damage per missile. HMLs are objectively better than ERMLs for this loadout, and while 6 ERSLs do get a fractional increase to DPS at about the same HPS, you're losing 70 meters of range, a massive amount of quirks for your ATMs, and on top of all of that you have to maintain a lot more face time to get the DPS out of ERSLs, while you can use the high cooldown on HMLs to get their maximum DPS without having to stare at the enemy the entire time.

If you somehow think getting .76 more theoretical DPS out of your lasers is worth losing 15% cooldown and either 5% spread or 5% velocity on your ATMs, then there's really nothing anyone can do to help you.

Friend is having problems running a good build on his Marauder IIC D here's something I came up with. Any opinions and thoughts are appreciated. http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=498&l=0fd7ad9e8c861c4adbec5e77524bd19d9b5eb6e1

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>>186239905

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>>186239905

>>186239623

I don't really like SRMs on anything but lights and mediums desu.

>>186239905

What the fuck am I looking at?

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>>186239905
I had to look the entire screenshot over like, five times because my brain refused to register that bullshit

>https://mwomercs.com/tournaments?t=201708warhorn

ANOTHER FUCKING FP EVENT REEEEEEEEEE

interesting horns tho

>>186241264

Uh, you realize there are quick play rewards too right?

>>186241657
Uh, yeah? How that changes the fact that they force you to play FP cancer again?

>>186242149

>force you to play FP cancer again
>force you to play
>FP cancer

Just uninstall.

>>186242640
FP is cancer, m8.

Good for farming tards in a 12 man though.
which is how im going to deal with this cancer

>>186240686
look at the number of weapons in inventory and total cbills

>>186242708

FP is the superior game mode by far, and there's absolutely nothing about this event that forces you to play the mode.

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>>186242920
>FP event doesn't force you to play FP
>FP is the superior game mode by far

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>>186243263

>Somehow the presence of rewards for playing FP means you're forced to play that mode.
>Preferring quick play to FP.

kys

>>186243392
You are forced to play a shitty game mode to get the rewards. That's a fact and I don't know what are you trying to prove here and why are you so so triggered by facts.

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>>186237735
I just stuck with the Prime and a Set of 8. I wish I had waited for the H though. I put in SPLs to replace my old HSLs. It's just not the same not taking over 2,000 missiles.

>>186243595

>To get the rewards.

There we have it, your little light bulb finally glowed bright enough to let you see the crux of it.

Just play for the QP rewards if you're so fucking salty about FP. Nobody is forcing you to do anything. Are you really going to willingly subject yourself to something you don't like for some C-Bills and cosmetics?

Whiny autistic scum.

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>>186243392
>>186243995

>quick play
>not group play
>have to point out the obvious why people are forced to play fp


undistilled autism, kys in piss

>>186243657
No reason not to switch over, unless you already mastered the prime in which case I'm very sorry for your life

>>186244590
I mastered it ages ago. I like the Vulture Prime given the eternity I've spent in my Catapult C1.

>>186243995
>this autismal triggering

I want the rewards FP part of the event brings, so yes, I'm forced yo play this garbage mode I hate to get what I want.

It's truly impressive how you're not able to get pretty simple concepts like that. You might be retarded.

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So the other Spurdo mech build I posted was way to hot. Tried this one, and I like it!

>>186244871
>even hotter
Let me guess you're using chainfire right?

>>186244871
Your mech name is awful.

>>186244938
Primary is 6 Smalls, Secondary is 3 Meds, Trinary is Er Larges. I dont chain fire.

>>186245421
>I dont chain fire.

For shame!

>chain firing when weapon groups exist

truly the oldest of old man davion memes

>>186245651
>manually cycling to chainfire instead of using chainfire
what a weirdo

Spurdo Mech guy here, would it be better to get 5 Heavy Smalls or Stay with the 6 ER Smalls?

>>186248192
Yes

Anyone have some good and/or fun Kaiju builds?

>>186252590
Not sure if Good, but would be fun. http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=557&l=ba8dff81ccb9cff10eeb949d017b91c0ba58eea7

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>>186241264

There's a few bits that aren't FP related.

Sooooo I do the QP stuff and avoid sticking my dick in the FP blender. No adding to the sea of shit that is factional play with hordes of PUG seals begging to be clubbed here.

>>186232682

Elite Davion-trained tactics, grafted onto Superior Clantech (tm Victor Steiner-Manlet).

>>186239905

is it the .1 ton I guess?

>>186254771

Here. Now your arm mounts don't instantly do zero the second you're at 89m.

http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=557&l=f161e7564e25d4290140fbb9fa7efe1a19edf282

>>186252590
I don't own a Kaiju and it isn't the greatest but these should at least work

>imitating an AS7-D
http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=557&l=98253cde1e5e05e4774f733f2768a95b6d650782

>uac20 and mpls
http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=557&l=c0077471385b17778fdd78f10d51258c32b5fd3b

>uac20 and lpls with deadside
http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=557&l=b68ecc3bb4854015442d4111f574bb51e7118556

>uac5s and ermls
http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=557&l=ebe6a6b703941fa2ba0dd8cdbd8933d23c2aa0b0

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>that fucking dakka you get with an 8 LMG mist lynx
S E X
E
X

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>>186256748
Shit, should I buy one? I only have a couple empty bays left and there's still a bunch of other shit I want, but the dakka calls to me.

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>>186258520
If you want to be a tiny critseeking ninja cunt and fucking destroy battered up baddies from 500 meters, fucking buy it my main man.
Only flaw with the mech is that, like all mist lynxs, you are slow as fuck and if your sneaky ass gets caught by anything that is remotely fresh and can fuck your day up will get torn apart faster than you can say I-hate-my-team
I haven't tried the 6 LMG 2 MPL cheetoo yet so I don't have much to say on that

Which of the Bushwackers is a good buy?

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>>186256748
>>186258520
>>186259679
If you can play lights to any degree, enjoy going fairly fast, and like the idea of ripping limbs off Bugs, yes. While the Lynx isn't top of the line fast, it's still pretty damn quick and small too. 8x LMGs and 4x ERSL rips people to pieces if their armor is weak or the components are exposed. It's also amazing for pulling legs off enemy lights.

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Anyone else try the other mechs out?
Hows the Ice ferret?

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Is the IS UAC/20 bad, or am I just bad at using it? I can't manage to deal with how often it jams and how long it jams for, and the 3-shot burst just feels strictly worse than the single-shot of the normal AC/20. Am I a shitter for preferring the regular AC/20 even though it's half the DPS, or is it actually the better choice?

>>186259679
>>186260117
Okay fuck it, I'm buying one. Any tips on how I want to skill the sucker? Max speed tweak is obvious, but what else does it want?

>>186264217
I'd say armor and weapons. While its pretty squishy, Survival will at least allow you to survive more than one hit. I've only filled it halfway and I'm already seeing more durability out of it.

r8 or h8 this meme build

>>186264217
Max speed, max armour, las duration reduction

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>>186264341
fucking pic lost

>>186264520
You're gonna want more ammo than that. Take her into the Testing Grounds and see how quickly you burn through that much.

>>186265019
Yea got rid of the flamer for more mg ammo but thinking of removing the hml's for er smalls

>>186265178
Honestly, that's how I'm running it. 4x ERSL, 8x machineguns, rest of the tonnage for ammo. LMG or MG is personal preference, but I find that unless you're using Micro lasers or skip out on 'em all together you won't have enough tonnage for any meaningful amount of HMG ammo

>>186264520

I'm in the "use ERSL" camp here. They share similar range with LMGs, and that gives you 4 ERSL + 8 LMG + 2 1/2 tons of ammo for the structure-raping guns.

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This guy walks into the club and slaps yer gf on the ass
Wat do?

Holy shit horrible games tonight

>>186267469
I rip his arms and legs off
Because I've also got 8x machineguns

>>186267551

Everyone's trying new shit, so unskilled chassis and less skilled piloting.

>people use voice to bitch about their team after they lose
>but they don't use it to call targets
>and they don't use it to warn about an incoming flank
>and they don't use it to call for a push
>and they don't use it to try to win the game in general

The Lynx-G is gonna get nerfed so damn hard in the next patch.

But I'm gonna love it til then

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>>186269479
>Nerfing the new meta on THE shittiest mech in the game

>>186269694
>5-800 damage easily in a light mech before smoke
>kills and component strips for days
>can't catch the squirrel
>IS tears

It's unfortunate, but you know it is going to happen.

>see bushwacker running around in short range
>have 2x ATM-9s, fire 4 volleys into him
>he finally notices me and runs straight at me
>dont even manage to get past his armor before he is in min range
>he didn't even have AMS because he was going full SRMs

I thought these were supposed to do 3 damage per missile in the short range bracket?

>>186269479
>>186269694
>>186269920
The nova does it better

>>186198826
Critical Rocket

Watch and enjoy

>>186245651
I don't like getting ghost heat on my snubbies. So I chain fire, problem?

holy shit what is this event lmao

>>186273821
Its pretty ez

>>186273821
>c-bills and visual clutter for extra grinding and soul crushing CW
I think I'll just have a masturbation marathon instead. Maybe I'll come into mumble to breathe heavily.

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I swear, the shoulder mounts for the Gargoyle.
It's like playing pre nerf knigga again.
Es great.

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This thing is out of control

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M E T A
>tfw you were the only one to use it now theres tonnes

>>186275586
there are no worthwhile rewards in the event unless you are extremely space poor, or for some reason want to buy warhorns

>>186275586
>drop solo in CW
>win 5 matches
>with the free premium time i easily make over 1 million per match and 1k+ loyalty points

What's the problem again?

>>186277732
Yes, you were literally the first and only person to use machine guns in a fucking mist lynx.

Also it's a trash mech, you just shoot off the massive arms that have like 30 health total and it's dealt with. Arctic Cheetah does the machine gun memes much better.

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>>186278468
>Mad arctic shitter baby found

>>186278540
Your MASSIVE arms have less than 40 total health after all the quirks and all the armor/survival nodes. That's a single alpha strike from most mechs in the game.

Sorry to bring you down to earth but it's a shitty gimmick that's extremely easy to deal with once people realize you just shoot the big arms. At least the Cheetah can tank damage fairly well.

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>>186279554
>Being this mad your shitmech has been knocked down to 2nd best clan light
The myst lynx is fine with armour quirks

>>186279779
I don't even own a Cheetah.
Your mech is trash, deal with it.

loyalty gibs pls piggi

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>>186279845
Stay mad butt bandit

>>186280332
By the end of the week everyone will have figured out your gimmick and the mech will be unplayable. Enjoy it while it lasts kiddo.

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>Game freezes
>Decide to wait it out
>By the time the game gets rolling again, it's apparent that we're losing solely because I couldn't participate.
Please kill me.
I'm scum, shit and gay.

dead game

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Helios when?

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>It's a "did more damage then your entire assault lance combined and most likely lose because of it" episode.

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>It's a circle the HPG top instead of taking it episode

glad my uziel refund went through

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>it's a clan retard runs into melee range with atms episode

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>It's a "the team goes basement in HPG episode"
time for a break

>>186298047
That HAS to be more heat efficient than the 6 CERLL one. How does she perform?

>>186300331
It's a spectator

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>It's a 'first guy that dies starts complaining in voice about how he's awesome and everyone else is bad episode.'

>can't get a refund once you have the product that you paid for
what kind of ass backwards bullshit logic is this

>Go back to projectiles after playing a laser vomit build for a while
Man, the amount of work you gotta put in for similar performance to beams.

>>186306272

U wot m8?

Beams require you to line the shot up, and then keep on target for the entire burn time. Of course, this also allows some correction if you fucked your shot up, but by then you've already compromised your damage.

With projectiles, it's all upfront. You have to line the shot up, while accounting for lead if the target is moving, but once you hit fire and the projectile is en route all that damage is going to land.

I honestly hate using medium or small lasers of any variety.

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>>186303070
>yfw he is a supposedly well known player who just charged into the entire enemy team without telling his team m8s
>yfw he then complains that people should know him and use his skills to their advantage
>yfw autism

>>186309296
Nah, that was just the first picture I found in my 'too lazy to find an appropriate pic' folder. The guy was unitless.

>>186309296
who doe

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>>186309594
proton

>>186309696
what did you expect from a russian

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>>186309838
more cyka, vodka and cheeki breeki

kakos mak ded gam?

kakos is better then greg, but my main man whispers is better than both

>>186314001
but my home boy Collat3ral-D beats them both and his team

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>>186314134
>Collat3ral-D

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>It's a King Crab with 4 rac 2s episode

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>still no 2017 Loyalty Mech announcement

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>>186316310
No loyalty mechs this year.

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Behold

>>186317478
but muh crits

>>186317478
superheavy light machine gun

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No GAR should wield all this power

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https://mwomercs.com/news/2017/08/1876-production-update-russ-bullock-aug-18th

>that Nova Cat

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>>186318309
>there are people in this thread, RIGHT NOW, who didn't pre-order a Nova Cat

>>186318439
>there are people right now in this very thread that still fall for pgis cheap tricks buying mechs before theyre even ingame
>inb4 its a fuckup of uziel magnitude

>>186318439
>have no idea what the animations will be like
>have no idea if those fuck huge arms will be all hit-boxes
>have no idea if it's getting quirks or not
>Nova Cat is to Night Gyr as Grasshopper is to Black Knight

A chance I wasn't willing to take.

>>186318773
>Nova Cat is to Night Gyr as Grasshopper is to Black Knight
what

>Uziel

just fill my shit up with mesh

>>186318873
>fixed hiboxes :^)
>didn't actually change anything, literally
>fixed gap :^)
>just stuffed it full of shit instead of fixing it

surprised there aren't more forum posts about this

>>186318864
>5 ton difference for what is effectively the same mech

>>186320254
Night Gyr can't boat energy because it doesn't have the crit slots.

Also I might be wrong, but the Nova Cat might have more tonnage for weapons on variants without jump jets.

Either way, Nova Cat is just the energy boating Night Gyr, thematically and practically.

I like the pirates bane locust with 4 medium lasers.

>>186318309
It almost looks like it has the body mix of a Gyr and Victor.

Getting ready to buy my first IS mechs. Planning on these three to start.

>Battlemaster
>Cataphract
>Warhammer

Which variants do you recommend?

Also, how's the cicada? Debating it as a fourth to round out the last 40 tons of a drop deck.

>>186321034
>The twelve meter tall totem 'Mech of Clan Nova Cat is based on the Night Gyr created by Clan Jade Falcon.

>>186321070
1G
Grasshopper 5H
6R

>pub running 4 erml and 2 lams
>on a fucking grasshopper
how

Is this a contender, lads

contender for most shit mech design am i rite

http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=313&l=e2333cd646e8417839277b3621211e6aae2a230c

>>186321070
You should ge...
Just do what >>186321221 said,

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>>186321503
>http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=313&l=e2333cd646e8417839277b3621211e6aae2a230c
Stop. There are so many things wrong with that build that it hurts.

>>186321221
>>186321539

Is the Cataphract really that bad? Is the Grasshopper just better in every way or something?

>>186321715
The Cat is a great mech, until you get shot at. The cockpit is way too easy to target and hit.

>>186321715
Cata was never the same after they took away his wings.
;_;

>>186321685
How do i build a rac enforcer

Please assist

>>186321685

Such as? Looks ok to me if he really wants that RAC

>>186321070
>cicada
3M is a good ECM ERLL sniper and 2A is a good ML or ERML skirmisher. The others are varying levels of memes. X-5 used to be a god mech during the Age of Megaquirks, 30% energy range on a nimble, small target made it the sniper mech of that era alongside BLR-1S, outranging clans all day every day. It's not that good anymore tho, only get it if you want missiles but a Jenner would be better for that.

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I love my boy hes quick and brave and strong

>>186321715
Grasshopper is the best heavy in the game currently.

Cataphract just isn't great. It's fine, but it's up against some serious competition.

>>186321860
1. ER meds are too hot to be coupled with racs. Especially on a medium
2. If you have to go with a light engine then go with 250. Going 255 is basically a waste of tonnage.
3. Ammo in the CT
4. Targeting comp, not useful enough to cover its cost

If he really wants to go Racs then he should be using the 5P with 2 lmgs and an xl255

>>186321503
>enforcer
>medium mech
>ever a contender

medium mechs are fucking shit

play lights if you're adhd/can't position or heavies and assaults if you're playing with a steering wheel

mediums are just a jack of no trades and shit at everything unless you're running some sort of super meme alpha strike oneshot flanking shitbuild that doesn't fit in a light

>>186322283
>he doesn't put ammo in the CT
lol what is this year BC600

>>186322283
5p with 2 racs and the rest that is

>>186322304
Based wrongbro

>>186322343
Maybe something like mg ammo

>>186322512
CT is the first place you put ammo

>>186322761
Not for me it ain't

>>186322805
that's because ur bad :^)

>>186321926

I don't want to buy just for the current meta. The meta will change, I'll still have the same mechs. I just want to buy some solid mechs that I enjoy and build them to the current meta as much as possible. I'll look hard at the Grasshopper, but Black Knight was the best in the game at one point too.

For reference, I've only played clans up to now and I have a TBR / MDD / EBJ / WHK / VPR. Ebon Jaguar and Warhawk are my current favorites. I bought the TBR-C because at the time it was one of the best mechs in the game with a 4 x ERML 2 x LPL loadout. Now it's just eh, and I haven't found another build yet that I really love on it.

>>186321867

Thanks, maybe I'll pick up a 3M.

>>186321840

I'm not big on poptarting anyway.

Speaking of meme mechs...

http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=183&l=ceead56e71f4ce21c1bc03aefc00ec3cebe9ab54

>https://mwomercs.com/news/2017/08/1877-versus-sale-cyclops-vs-kodiak
Oh lawd they're coaxing people into buying kodiaks

>>186322950
>165 effective range on a mech made of heatsinks and lasers

madman

>>186322903
>I don't want to buy just for the current meta. The meta will change, I'll still have the same mechs.
The mechs mentioned (Battlemaster 1G, Grasshopper 5H and Warhammer 6R) have been very strong ever since they were released. For many many years now, and I don't see how they would ever stop being strong unless PGI specifically targeted those mechs with big nerfs. Battlemaster even came out before Clan mechs, that's how long it has been relevant.

They are very safe mechs to buy.

>>186322950
Why not go all the way and make that large into a spl

>>186323171
too much wasted tonnage

>>186323114
there's a large laser in there :^)

>>186323338
Wrong
>http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=183&l=10f9a7912037273ed4dc54b2d24179fd95ef4d31
Yours didn't even have the CT fully armored

>>186323420
jesus

I'm dumb as fuck

How would that play out anyway?

>>186322997
I've been thinking about picking up the Cyclops std pack...

>>186323648
Why use real money when you can buy them with virtual space dosh?

WHERE MY LOYALTY GIBS AT PIG?

>>186323930
RIOT

why are light mechs so rare?
I love flanking and capping points and on top of that running fast

>>186324001
better question, why does nobody play light?

>>186323890
Because I can make the 16 for the std pack in under half an hour at work, I can't earn enough cbills to buy the three cyclops in that same amount of time.

>>186323950
PUT THE LOYALTY MECHS IN MY MECHLAB AND NO ONE GETS HURT

>>186324001
>>186324125
nodamage

noarmor

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>>186324184
>Nodamage

>>186324184
strike quickly in the back where they have no armor

move swiftly and stay off the radar and you'll never need to be hit

eliminate their retreating cowards

>>186324292
*splashes laser damage all over their armor*
*steals kills*

"this fuckin team i'm carrying them gg"

ever thus to light players

>>186324157
edit, a little over a half hour, after taxes.

>>186324164
The only way to get loyalty mechs is to have bought at least 4 Ultimate packs in the past year.
Calling it now.

>>186324473
I only wish all light players were as good as that.
Even if it was just splashing lasers around, as long as they don't just die after accomplishing nothing.

melee in MWO when

>>186324838
as a light player i make it my primary objective to capture and destroy objectives before i die which I usually do

>that one light who captures bases all day and lets his team die with 0 damage

ggnore

the jenner is my mechfu!

ask me anything.

>jenners

a blast from the past

>>186326376
t. oxide shitter

>>186326689
Man, remember when oxides were the bane of everyone's existence?

>>186326873
they're not anymore?

is it safe to reinstall?

>>186326981
Jenners are 2 big nowadays

>>186326981

Nah, people are more afraid of MG stacking than SRM lights, as the MLX-G(angsta) proves.

>>186330639
>Nah, people are more afraid of MG stacking than SRM lights, as the MLX-G(angsta) proves.
lol no

If ATMs do 3 damage in the short range bracket why do i frequenty see lights/mediums tank multiple volleys to little effect.

Like if some assassin is running around at 200m, i can see them spamming 18 ATMs but he pretty much just tanks them and ignores me.

>>186333556
Because one, if they get within 120m they do no damage at all. Not everyone is mindful enough to keep that in consideration (though there are still plenty of people firing IS LRMs below their minimum range, or firing SRMs beyond their max, so it might be a general issue). Two, while ATMs hit for 3 damage per missile within their minimum range, they're only really useful if you can fire enough of them at once. You also have to account for missiles that miss, hit other body parts, or get shot down by AMS (which hamper ATMs considerably).

And another thing: they're not some one-shot-wonder against light mechs. Yes, they're strong when used in the right circumstances, but you're a fool if you think you can just press a button to instantly win. With 2x ATM9s and 4 ERML, I've killed a Mist Lynx from full health trying to squirrel itself away in three volleys with supporting laser fire. You also need to know what you're firing at too. A Lynx, Cheetah, Spider, or Locust is going to go down faster than an Assassin, Cicada, Urbie, or Viper.

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Who is your Mechfu, and why isn't it the Mauler MX90

>>186336378
My Mechfu is the Balius because riding into battle.

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>>186336378
Because it's the Hellbringer.

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>>186336378
My Mechfu is the Shrike and life is suffering because it will never exist in any Battletech game

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This is my mechfu. Am i doing it right guys? She's from a video game too.

>>186324928
right after mwll gets a mechlab

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>>186336829
Did you say Hellbringer?!

>>186341461
wtf how you removed the stumps like that?

>>186341461
is the hellbringer still bad at running anything other than laser vomit?

>>186341706
They're the Ballistic arms.

>>186342219
roger that

Is the fafnir a line mech or was it custom built?

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Doesn't get old.

The utter retardation of pug mouth breathers at the moment does however. Fucking events after a patch are suffering.

>>186343923
>runs an atlas with LRMs to inflate damage numbers

>>186343975
>he doesn't know
Ha! Get fucked.

>>186264520
Do yourself a favor and put one flammer on each arm. Ignore the torso energy slot. Dakka for days and make them overheat or shutdown.

Hardmode: put in HMGs to synergize with flammer range.

>>186267469
Wubwub his arms and one leg off, dakka him from behind

>those new radio warhorns

KABOOOOOOMMMM
*tango down*
TARGET DESTROYED

Does KONG/GONK do FP? I wanna get these event rewards, but solo-queuing right now is a death sentence

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>>186324928
Soon™

>>186210318
Looks like that won't be addressed until the animation fixes are implemented for the Uziel and Mad Cat Mk II.

Anyone have suggestions for a huntmans prime loadout?

>>186351679
Primary weapon shot is your SRMS 4s once you break the armor use your lbx as well or unless close to heat. http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=457&l=4e4aeb383e47cf33b5261bf29e704de58ea7d27d

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>Its a "Polar Islands" episode
>The team relies on a guy with a sore throat who can barely speak in a cataphract to tell them to push
>They let him push while the heavies play lrmageddon and goose pepsi

>>186352553
>this has to be a joke

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>>186188001
AYY L M A O

8 LMG + 2HML

>>186357347
>He just found the build

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>TFW get stuck on team mate/wall

>>186357347
>MLX-C
>not going full set-of-8 MLX-G for the 10% energy cooldown

https://mwomercs.com/forums/topic/256190-road-map-undelivered-a-light-patch-that-doesnt-fix-unresolved-issues-from-the-last-patch-the-lack-of-momentum-is-concerning/page__view__findpost__p__5866254

I thought gold whales died out?

Is the Hellbringer Prime worth getting, or should I invest in a different variant?

>>186366034
If you're interested in running with its stock pods for the set of 8 quirks, I'd say it looks pretty decent, as does the F. If you're planning to ignore pod sets and just mix and match as you please for whatever loadout you want, I would buy the P, since it has an extra +20 twist radius.

>>186333556
>>186334871

It also depends on angle of fire.

If a light is dumb enough to run past you in a straight line, 18+ ATMs will fuck something up. I've one-shotted lights dumping LRM 30+ ATM 21 that way. Head on isn't bad either, as long as they don't close to under 120m (I try to shoot as they're entering 300m or so), you'll get good grouping.

Circling lights tend to get hit a little more poorly, but you'll generally get most of your hits along the side facing you and more leg hits that way.

But if they do come straight in, you may well end up with a deadzone ATM failshot, at which point I hope you remembered some backups. Just like IS lurmboats, you're vulnerable to being hugged.

>>186343629

Production model, although there's one "hero" version that's a salvage job.

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>>186330850

Meet your new overlord.

>>186357347

Pic related, MLX-G arms.

I know I really, really shouldn't feed the pig since all they're doing is cash-grabbing with mechs instead of adding needed features.

But I'm pretty tempted by the Thanatos

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Nova Cat WIP looks decent, too bad it's going to be stuck in a deep rooted CryError game though.

Missile Spread skill node...does it do anything for MRMs?

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wow NORRIS i can't believe you personally kicked me from the sacred longhouse this was my inheritance, my heritage

>>186370663
wow im cerncerned now he will not devide us

>>186358316
>thinking he's unique for thinking of putting many machine guns on a light mech

>>186357347
>590 damage
so this is the power of the "new meta"?

>>186370663
is that Todd Howard?

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http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=17&l=fc4188e1e6c2ad2d161fc0eba2c5ce0bcc18a929

opinions?
i dont really like missiles
i like pinpoint damage projectile weapons like ballistics and PPCs
suggestion on how to improve it?
LB20 spreads damage way too much and UAC20 can jam at any moment and leave me with my pants down in a 1v1 with another assault

>>186373173
that's a build that a heavy can run, you know

>>186373173
>putting what could fit in a Warhammer into an Atlas
Too light on guns in my opinion. If I were you I'd up the Snubs to Heavies, it'll run a little hot but it'd at least be a weapons payload that makes sense in a 100-tonner.

http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=17&l=203b3333be41b0b52a81a52986d1ae7b85ff4ac6

>>186373690
yeah but the heavy will have to use xl for that build most likely
and it cant tank like the Fatlas

>>186374351
http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=345&l=e8ae0a123e75d5977df58b4c96e77cd5df34dc86