/eog/ EVE Online General

General is as ded as the gaem

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OP you forgot to include the pointless and stupid fozzie changes.
T3C's are now cap stable guardians with more tank and a link.

Also, warship the worship.

Daily reminder that the moros is the worst dread and the nag is better than the moros in every way

What WH types are good for soloing?

none of them

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>dedicated balance team

Is a HAM Drake usable and cost efficient?

it's ok

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>The capacitor is empty.

>1.6b

game ded

machariel is so good its like an army swiss knife.

>join small gang group
>they're /b/ tier material
>join another group
>more /b/ trash
I'm starting to belive the eleet pee vee pee people are just colossal faggots.

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Join Dronelands today! Quiet deep sovnull, safe ratting space, cheap systems for rent. Comrade xXDEATHXx is waiting for YOU!

Alvus Ruler

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>>186053703
They are. Been playing EVE for almost a decade now, have a disgusting amount of kills both solo and gangs, and about 99% of peeps in the huge pvp alliances are just cancerous faggots.

What kind of flight model does EVE use? Is it full Newtonian? I tried looking it up but I can't find any info.

capacitor

>>186058069
The physics in eve make very limited sense and should not be compared to anything real.

>>186044632
c5

is there an equivalent of nuclear proliferation in game

>all these esport kills
mmmm

>esport

What's your screen resolution and how big do you make your UI?

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>ywn experience eve in its prime

>chameleon
>no jams

hi guys, I need to sneak some assets out of my current account, I'm in NS and don't want to send them in HS, just in another account without my corp/alliance being aware of it.
I could throw them in space and then collect them with the other account but I cant
Someone know any trick ?

small tachyons when

>>186069828
>I need a neutral alt
Buy plex, salvage or whatever, sell shit with your alt. Anything else is just a headache. Keep in mind that some alliances keep track of your IP.

>>186071286
Can they see if I have delivered assets in the API ? Like contracts history

https://zkillboard.com/kill/64019614/

>>186071457
They can see 256 contracts if I remember correctly. I think contracts get purged after a couple of years. Direct trade can be seen in the API but it doesnt specify which items were traded, wouldnt do it anyway because the name is shown.
Jettisoning shit or ejecting yourself from a ship and letting your alt board it are the only ways to avoid the API faggotry.

>joining ANY group not made exclusively of friends that monitors your shit
lol fags

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>friends

>>186071831
I'll try to do that then

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>>186071746
>posting meme arrows outside of the chins

Give vaga -1L +1M

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhcZHhFTejU

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I want a panther irl

fully erect Redeemer

>large lasers

>Medium Projectiles

>Shield Flux Coil II

5MN Microwarpdrive II

What is the best HIC and why is it the Phobos?

>>186081618
That's not how you spell broadsword.

>>186082103
It's clearly the Devoter

Mfw the game is dead without johnny meme

Fiend

>wanting literal braindamaged kiwis

>troll no.gf for a year for the bants
>they still buy it

Lmao

>I selfdestructed everything I own for the le trolle

>>186081618
>t. gatecamper

I denied you guys content. While providing me a route to get a character with a better name. You think ur good but i had check mate before it even started.

>>186083538
kys

>>186084378
Ty for the kind words anon. You keep yourself safe too.

oneiros

Is the ham loki good? I never used medium missiles before.

>>186087913
Mediocre in pvp, garbage in pve.

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>Other generals have qt grills
>/eog/ has dogs

>>186088317
The overall quality of this general is astonishingly terrible.

>>186088196
And compared to projectile loki?

>>186088317
/poeg/ has crows.
I like crows.

>>186088552
HAM loki is better. Loki truly shines as a small gang support.

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>>186088317
>anime

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>>186089978

>>186090160
I'm curious to know who does that

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nips

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>>186090351
kimbbq

>>186090571
That's his job ?

Yes, his job is kimbbq.

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>expand mining team from 6 to 15 rorqs
>CPU almost dies when I run all the accounts
Should I get an i7-7700K or a Ryzen 7 1700? I don't mind potato settings when I'm mining but I'd like to be able to triple box during large TiDI shitfests and the i7 might be better for that.

>>186091329
I'd like to know too
And what is your CPU atm ?

>>186091595
i5-2500K with a GTX680

>>186092127
Got the same CPU, can you tell me your CPU perf with 13 accounts open ?
Low graph and small window would be better

>>186088317
>other generals have content
>/eog/ has lame memes

>>186091329
This game doesnt really benefit from the extra cores. There' a guy with the Ryzen 7 1700, claimed to get 2-10fps in tidi battles.

Dubs names my next spy alt

>dubs

Stierlitz>>186092667

>>186092667
AnotherGoddamnSpai

>>186092271
With 15 almost min sized EVE windows and sound it hits 99% on all cores when I watch a movie in chrome depending on what is happening in EVE. And sometimes clients become unresponsive if I try to scoop all drones etc.

>>186093265
Okay thank you, I will use 2 pc I guess

>>186093529
why not 10 computers?

jesus fuck, multiboxer kys

>>186095284
>jesus fuck, multiboxer kys
I have a PC + laptop for university, so where is the problem ?

>>186095890
>I need 20 rorqs running at the same time so that Im one of the 1% and everyone can suck dick, poors HAHAHAH

>>186096041
Do you know that with that mentality (irl/ig) you will go nowhere ?
It's a linear profit and almost nothing to manage

>>186096041
imagine being this triggered

>>186095890
t. angry wh scancuck that didn't get to whore on the rorq killmails

>this anal assaulted

>multiboxing is gay haha fagget
get back to >>>/r/eddit

>buying two computers
>probably 4 monitos
>only for excel

wew

>putting a lot of effort into getting as much isk as possible so you can bypass actually playing the game and get straight into the objectively shitty gameplay (capitals) as fast as possible

>reeeee stop making isk cuck

if you want to become a noskill bitter richfag it's fine by me

nothing stopping you from flying frigates in low with trillions in wallet/assets

HML plate bellicose

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>who are you replying to?

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oneiros

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>>186097934

>>186104724
Who are you quoting?

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whom'st are you've quoting?

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What the fuck is wrong with CCP? They make a great product (or in the case of current devs, inherit) and instead of maintaining it and expanding on proven enjoyable concepts, they just tunnel vision on new players without any follow through. EVE in it's current state is only meant to trick noobs into thinking that you can still be a part of the large hostile world from 2009-2014, and not the faggot festival that is 2017 citadel sit-ins.

Hope you bought your fucking PLEX goy, eyes forward towards our new glow-in-the-dark faction drone skins.

>>186105384
Now this is a good post.

citadels don't do anything, just ignore them if you want

>citadels don't do anything
autism

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>using citadels when POS exist

>>186105384
Don't know what you expected.

>>186105924
no

>>186109031
Citadels do the exact opposite of facilitating fights. The timer system is absolutely garbage and asset safety doesn't fit eve at all, shame the average retard is too stupid to realize any of this.

Can I have a tl;dr on the TRI vs FCON war ?

literally who

>>186109745
>facilitating fights
what do you think this means

I'm thinking about a SB bs setup to rat and I'm unsure about faction SB, do they worth it ?

>>186111970
>POSes drop loot and have reasonable RF timers; defenses can be incapacitated
>Citadels don't drop loot (except in wh) and require grinding a bunch of retarded timers at hours set by the defender; defenses can't be incapacitated
Talk about incentive to fight, huh?

Citadel defenses are also total bullshit.

>>186113082
POS defenses aren't any better designed than citadels though, they're cancerous in different ways
and with a POS it's a structure grind, meaning >muh capitals, with smaller ships being artificially less useful

>Citadels don't drop loot
they have value, and you're probably going to lose more of your stuff through asset safety than if you just ggez teleported it out with broken unstoppable jump drive ships. they seem to drop maybe 5% of the structure's value in salvage, which is something at least. if you just made them work the same as wormhole citadels, nobody would use them because normal stations still exist

I don't think you're supposed to 'want' to kill a citadel, it's more like you have to kill it to stop your enemy staging there. it's the other new structures that are involved with carebearing. most of your complaints are being addressed, and yet people like you keep moaning about citadel timers and defences as though they're the biggest problem in eve

>damage cap is 5k dps

all those zeros

>value

>Woah these citadels look so awesome, they will love them!
>Yes but they are kinda weak, our players will kill them easily and we did shit in the code, can't fix it
>Let's cap the dps then !
Yaaaaay, CCP! CCP! CCP! HOY HOY, CCP! CCP! CCP! HOY HOY

>>186113669
How are untouchable defense modules and damage caps less cancerous than POS mechanics?
Please explain the inherent value of an Astrahus which costs 1bil and requires grinding through timers for an empty kill much later, only for the enemy to put up another one, or two, or ten, because it's practically free.
>nobody would use them because normal stations still exist
Let me just dock/tether supers at this normal station.
>I don't think you're supposed to 'want' to kill a citadel
Herein lies the problem because previously one of the main "features" of this game was that everything you see in space can be messed with, risk vs reward being a catalyst to undock and do stuff. Now, emergent gameplay is being restricted in favor of a bunch of arbitrary systems hastily thrown together to generate artificial, meaningless content (like entosis, citadel bollocks and nu moon mining).
>most of your complaints are being addressed
Addressed by adding more cute skins and PLEX discounts at the good goy store, you mean.

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>>186036403
Just resubbed for about the 1000th time.. Nothing new, solo pvp still doesnt exist outside of dueling on the undock, and even then, nobody will duel unless they know 100% that they will win

>>186117224
>should I attack even if I know I'm gonna lose

>>186117441
No, you shouldnt be so risk averse though. 9/10 times, you only a small idea of what your opponents fit MIGHT look like.

>>186117441
If you dont like PVP, thats one thing. But 99.9% of
"pvp" oriented players in this game act like big dick jack because they can get in a fleet and press f1.. I don't know how solo pvp died so hard. But somwhere in the last decade, it just went away.

>>186117698
>>186117968
Duel without ship loss would be cool

>>186118046
try sisi

>>186118046
WoW style

>>186118046
frigs and destroyers are basically free

>>186118046
I have even better
People can chose between Duel to the death or until 1% structure
If they take the first one and win, they gain a token, with these tokens, they can buy Duelist ships with good bonuses
People who fly Duelist ships and kill other Duelist ships will receive special tokens to buy Master ships with even better bonuses
And you cant fit a Master Ships if you did not fly a Duelist ship before (special skill)

>>186118737
Wait I have even better
Make several kind of token, HS/LS/NS/WH, you still have to do duels to win these tokens but these ships will have better bonuses when they are in good the security level

Гac юpceлф фaггoт

>>186118737
>>186118865
Okay, now that I think about it, people will abuse that system and duel between friends with shitty ships to have Master Ships

>>186115624
a citadel doesn't automatically tackle and pop you from 200km
>Herein lies the problem
no. A pos people stage from doesn't give you money for killing it, you just kill it to stop them

You can shoot the pos whenever you want.

>>186119594
Will you stop with this "staging" shit? Are you in Goons or something? There's more to player owned structures than your dumb F1 masher fleet staging.
You've managed to miss the point entirely. Try reading the posts again.

>>186119940
reading them again won't tell me what you want a POS for other than money shit or putting combat ships in

>>186122857
What about the mechanics of reinforcing and destroying it? Does that sound like anything to you?

>>186123246
doesn't answer question

>>186124921
Vulnerability timers are bullshit because you can be forced to bash a citadel at three in the morning on three different work days or not at all, you can reinforce a pos on a friday whenever you want and there's only one more form to kill it.

>>186125291
they said they will change the timers. It's not what we're talking about, what do you need a citadel for?

>>186125695
Citadels are useful because they have several advantages when compared to stations or poses, but ccp went too far and people don't want to bash online citadels because it takes too much time and effort.

>>186126470
I feel like I'm talking to someone else now, the other guy had a lot more complaints

>>186127458
You are talking to someone else. I'm trying to be reasonable here but citadels have a much stronger defender's advantage than poses do.

>>186128638
Not if they're empty or invulnerable. And citadels are meant to be harder to kill than the carebear structures since they don't really do anything

>void bombs need balancing.
>np we'll just add 50% more cap drain and efficiency per ammo.

They provide a safe place to put things and their mechanics and weapons make them easy to defend. This is all citadels need to do.

Citadel bombs need to be unguided

When
https://zkillboard.com/corporation/98398949/
and
https://zkillboard.com/corporation/98408314/
declare war on your corp.

:thinking:

>Elite solo pvp involves scram webbing, and engaging at 2km for the whole duration of the fight.

>tfw no l33t -10.0 sec status

69 names my next spy alt

>tfw no supercap with sec status based bonus

>>186134206
notaspai

claire-wulf

>>186133521
A lot of it does retard

>>186134206
Ima gud-spy

>>186134206
gudgoy

>solo pvp

>>186140481
Hi

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>pve

>>186141435
Hey

Cyclone

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mM57fjziDOI

Typhoon

More good minmatar missile ships like typhoon vfi and breacher would be great

Keres

>>186134206
>>186146969
Winrar. I'll copy it in and see how much fits.

>>186071286
>keep track of your IP
But you can't tell which IPs are associated with which EVE accounts, and things like Slack and Discord can be used through TOR.

>>186149750
>spy alt
Kys

Besides a tengu what can i run a guristas 6/10 in?

Probably any bs

>>186152378
any t3c or bs

>>186152853
>>186153256
Can i do it in a gila?

Is this game worth playing?

Maybe if it's 100mn or very range fitted

>>186153527
>grab fit
>check stats
>compare stats with your shitla
>profit

>>186153648
No, videogames are not worth playing.

>>186153730
yes but is it a good videogame relatively speaking

>>186153831
it is a sandbox google it

>>186153831
It is a sandbox game in the purest sense of the term. The overall gameplay mechanics, especially combat, aren't great but it allows the players total freedom in doing whatever the fuck they want. Player interaction is the core of the game.

>>186154091
Is there any way to avoid getting space niggered? Thinking of roping some friends into trying it but >>186105384 makes it seem like the golden age is over.

>>186154308
They are currently in the process of replacing player-owned starbases with citadels, a newer version of player-controlled structures. A lot of people dislike citadels because they're much harder to destroy than PoSes but CCP is patching one of the problems with them in a few days and has already said they're working on changes to the main problem with them, their vulnerability timers.

By "space niggered" do you mean ganking or something else?

>>186154308
the game encourages scamming and ganking
ccp is doing some stupid shit but a new player wont be too affected. the new tutorial is ok
it is literally free to try jsut do it

what are the most fun cruiser and smaller sized t2 ships? what skills should i train to 5?

I want to start playing EVE but this thread is dead.
And everyone here is weird
Better not get involved

>>186155129
>judging a game based on its /vg/ general
Bruh

Amarr

Returning eve player, Not sure what nullsec alliance to join thinking tactical narcotis team or karmafleet/ brave newbies or horde

My oldest toon is 9 years old, What would be best for small-med fleet pvp, decent srp, possible fc training and decent isk from pve, I got a incursion alt but I'd still wanna do null pve shit

>>186158965
BRAVE for fights, karmafleet for SRP, horde if you don't mind to get awoxed but are grrr gons and want better space than BRAVE has

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>>186155129

>>186155129
Why would you not play a game because of a shitty 4chan thread about it? Literally, every other general on here is full of the same retarded shit.

>>186159659
if karmafleet for srp does this mean i'll make more isk in null with them

>>186160381
maybe once the war is over.

>>186160381
they have 15% tax but pay corp SRP on top of alliance SRP. you can probably make a living welping fleets if you FC and sell doctrine shops on contracs. some of the goon sigs are pretty good

Kys goon

Cyclone

>>186153831
Basic example :
Have you ever watched a map like that :
https://www.marinetraffic.com/fr/ais/home/centerx:47.3/centery:-35.3/zoom:5
And thought "I wanna be a pirate and attack all these cargo ships !"
Well, in Eve Online you can and it's legal.
Join CODE.

>code
Remember when they were semi relevant

Never?

I don't

Exactly.

Cake

in your shitty opinion, what's the biggest problem with the game?

>>186171992
risk-aversion

your ass face

>>186171992
intel tools

your mom

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>>186171992
>what's the biggest problem with the game?
Players.

>you'll never shart on Jamyl's face

>>186173218
Fucking highsec, why won't CCP shrink it?

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>waah there is no incentive to come to our trash space because we killed it, ccp pls nerf hisec:(

Highsec is full of people because people are risk-averse carebears. They don't care about isk/hr, they're scared of PVP, and they need to be forced out into lowsec and null.

No because prefer to be accountants or engineers than mercenaries.

Theres basically nothing good on netflix how some of you cope.

>streaming

by not playing the game

>>186177023
I actually have fun when I play EVE

>fun

What happens to blueprints that are being researched when the structure they are in is destroyed?

Guardian

>>186178581
https://support.eveonline.com/hc/en-us/articles/209985225-Upwell-Structures-Quick-Facts

>>186181332
FUCK, I had two thanatos ready to deliver and an anshar, the EC has been removed before I deliver them, they are wasted ?

>>186182703
F

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What's your fun/hr?

>>186185756
Brave pls go

>seagull

>Ceptors
>With 2 mids

>>186175613
Is it actual autism? Like there's absolutely nothing this game does well except permanent loss pvp, I don't know why you'd waste your time solely doing industry or level 4 missions unless you had some kind of problem.

>>186155129
People in eve tend to talk to their alliance / corp mates a lot more than in other games. I think that's at least part of the reason this general is so bad.

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>People in eve tend to talk to their alliance / corp mates a lot more than in other games. I think that's at least part of the reason this general is so bad.

>Talk with corpmates about anything
>Get a conversation

>Try to talk with /vg/
>Get dogs

He has a point

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>unironically talking to the tards making up 99% of playerbase

>Became a good friend with 2 corpmates in my current corp
>We often do stuff together/talk about fit and strategy.
>Our CEO told us that if we continue like that he will kick us. Because that kind of behavior is bad for the corp
>Meanwhile, he rats with a Hel, alone, in his own system paid by the corp
This is Eve

>>186188447
I've been there. Tell him to hang himself and get some other group to drop his Hel.

>>186188382
That's why you join a small, competent group of players. They mostly know what they're talking about.

>>186187503
They're the carebears that make up most of the population in themepark MMOs.
They are the risk-averse cancer that is killing this game and the biggest reason to remove 90% of highsec.

>>186188447
Who's your CEO, which system does he do it in and when does he do it?

How are HS level 4 runners any worse than the guys who multibox 10+ rorqs or super rat with a fleet of FAX and supers ready to cyno on anyone that messes with them?

>le if you live in hs you only do stuff in hs

>>186188747
>>186189180
I'm not sure about the hel hotdrop made by a 4chan anonymous
But if I leave that corp, I will put everything here

>>186189273
Because capital umbrellas aren't foolproof. They're certainly strong, but you can overwhelm them with sheer force, divide them until they're too weak to respond, and certain fleet comps like stealth bombers + force recons are suicide to drop caps onto.

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EVE is not for pvp. Risk-averse is okay.

How can people use third party apps that download prices from website like isk/hour efficiently? Whenever I update the prices from eve-central for example the prices don't reflect the actual prices at all. I'm always just entering the prices manually. Is that normal?

>17.5% people didn't even make it to warp

>tfw carebear genocide never works in the long run
GLORIOUS PVP MASTER RACE > DIRTY CAREBEAR PEASANTS

RORQUAL TACKLED

>b-but eve is a sandbox that means I'm free to camp tama 24/7 with my "elite" memecorp
>omg how dare people play the game how they want eve is a pvp gaem !!

Cyno Inhibitor anchoring in 5, 4, 3, 2..
Oh fuck they lit a cyno, fleet align out.

Titan bridge, subs go, dictors bubble, ceptor light at 100, supers right click jump.
Loot and resume mining.

epic, subscribed

>>186193964
>not hitting targets outside of their supercap umbrella but inside their cap umbrella
All they can drop on you then is caps. Which means that blops gangs operating in that area are basically unstoppable with the right setup.

>>186194332
>outside of their supercap umbrella but inside their cap umbrella
It it's not supers, it's carriers. Good luck doing anything without an inhibitor up, like that fag above was suggesting.

>>186195134
Dreads can't hit cruiser or frigate-sized targets, FAXes can't fight back if they're healing, and there's a way to deal with carriers.
The fun thing about ECM is that if you get a single jam off on a drone or fighter squadron, that drone/fighter squadron can't target anything until it's recalled to the operator/carrier. A Falcon can easily jam fighters with its ridiculous ECM strength, a Rapier can web things at ridiculous ranges, and an Arazu can scram things at ridiculous ranges. Those fighters are going to be 100% useless, because they'll be jammed in seconds and unable to return to the carrier, defanging it.

>>186195818
Fair points, fighters are pretty easy to jam. Not aligning out when the rorq cynos before your inhibitor comes online is dumb, yet there's still someone complaining on a mongolian husbandry board about the gankers running away as his coalition blob jumps in.

Coalitions were a mistake. Just like renting, NIPs, pets, and everything else BoB invented.

Try to stop it.

>>186195818
HAW dreads can hit frigates and cruisers

supercapitals were a mistake, and everyone knows it

>>186197446
LOL no they fuckin cant

Haw dread guns have half the tracking of battleships. Unless that retarded cruiser is literally right up in the grill trying to orbit at 500 will the dread ever track. It needs a grappler and a web just to even somewhat apply

>It needs a grappler and a web
Yes, and?

>>186198396
https://zkillboard.com/related/30003742/201707110100/

>>186198786
Guarantee you these retards were all under 10km to this dread

>>186198454
Basically a cruiser keeps 15km away from it and can't get hit

lol you are retarded

>>186190009
Wild stab in the dark, are they part of Deus Vult?

>>186200102
Blue to them

Reminder that The Suicide Express is the best corp and Rejection of Sovereignty is the best alliance.

>>186200297
Who?

>>186199569
t. never flown a dread

>>186200718
>I can magically track shit without a grappler and web applying

>I got dropped by a shitfit dread so that means everyone fits it like that

>>186201109
So grapplers and webs are used, it's a fleet. What's your point?

initiated compact warp scrambler

>>186201281
The point is you stay away from the grappler and webs and you'll never get hit

>>186203578
>unironically posting that

>you're gonna get hit by a dread even though he has no tracking on you

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>what is tracking ammo
>what is grappler
>what is web
>what is drop
>what is phoenix
>what is TP
>what is tracking rig

>>186204095
>>what is tracking ammo
What is the tracking ammo for blasters or pulse lasers?

Also using titanium sabot only gives you 20% which isn't enough by a long shot>

>>what is grappler
We specifically said you'll never get hit if you stay out of range. You're a fuckin idiot if you get webbed and grappled by a fucking dread
>>what is web
See above
>>what is drop
35% at best which isn't enough to track cruisers are 15km
>>what is phoenix
Torps apply like ass to everything that's not a battleship or bigger
>>what is TP
Only 30% at most, still not enough
>>what is tracking rig
Still not enough

A grappler and web is the only way to get good tracking on a cruiser with dread guns that have already half of regular battleships

Yo familiars
I´m doing level 2 missions and I'm wondering, is it worth it bringing in some salvage drones and just salvage wrecks at this level? Some of the missions give like 5 mil and others like 100k, or should I just wait and chill for level 3 agent missions?

Doing these until my covert/scanning skills are getting up so I can start exploring wormholes without losing too many god damn relics to the mini games.

>wow I crossed his imaginary 15k memerange, that means I'm invulnerable even though all his tackle is still on me le xd

>>186204831
>you're retarded for staying out of web range and grappler range. Why would you ever do that?
>I don't want to get hit by haw guns
>fuck you and your memes

>>186204532
Salvaging isn't really worth it.

You should join All-Out if you want to live in a wormhole.

>>186204513
>by a fucking dread
There is a fleet of subcapital ships on grid that applies tackle to the enemy, scramming, webbing and painting the target to be shot by dreads. Can you comprehend the simple fact that a rescue fleet jumping to a Rorqual cyno also includes support and tackle, or do you require some informative drawings?

>>186205332
Gen you're fucked

This isn't a dread with haw guns, it's a fucking dread with haw guns and a sub cap fleet with it.

Either way the losers could have coordinated to kill the subcaps including that interceptor being the first thing to kill and they would have successfully defanged the dread from being any kind of threat

>>186204532
Only if you run one mission and then afk for 10 minutes to let the salvage drones do their thing. A destroyer with 4 tractor beams and 4 salvagers (or 8 salvagers if you use a MTU) would be faster for salvaging and just running more missions is better Isk and gets you closer to lvl3s.

You could combat probe wrecks from L4 missions and salvage those or take a fast aligning salvaging frigate through FW lowsec and salvage player wrecks on gates.

>>186205231
All out? , Is that some corp?

>>186205332
Clearly they didn't kill the only interceptor on field and decided it was a good idea to get within 15km of a dread

k, I'll 1v1 ur trash fleet in my haw dread and I'll win

*stays at 20km kiting your dread that can't hit shit*

>>186205621
I heard that salvaging wrecks in lowsec was a thing but there's so few wrecks, I keep thinking if it's even worth it. But I'll give the suggestions a try, can't hurt

>>186205515
How exactly can they kill subcaps when fucking FAXes jump alongside with them? How do they manage to kill ALL tackle when the rescue fleet is twice or thrice the size, being fielded by a sov holding nullsec entity?

>that one interceptor
Why are you bringing an edge case into discussion and how does it help your argument? No battlereport was linked.

It's almost as if you're acting retarded deliberately to bait people for (You)s

>>186206071
>How exactly can they kill subcaps when fucking FAXes jump alongside with them?
Where in that zkillmail do you see faxes anywhere? It's a single fucking interceptor that one thrasher with artillery could ohk it

>using tracking ammo in autocannons
if you do this you are 100% retarded kys

Literally nothing wrong with depleted, gas yourself.

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>>186205639
It is, it's mostly dudes from these parts.

>having +20% tracking will surely increase my applied damage more than +50% damage
it will if you absolutely suck ass at damage application

>>186206208
FAXes are for repping, why would they show up on the battlereport if they're triaged, doing their job and not dying?

And what zkillboard are you even talking about?

>>186206619
Prove that there were any to begin with. You're just assuming there was not like it fucking matters there's one interceptor that could easily be ohk by that thrasher. No apostle is gonna repeat through that kind of alpha to a ship with less ehp than that alpha

There's one single interceptor and it showed up on only a few of the kills. Many of those frigates died to a dread and they received no aggression from the interceptor

>>186206619
This one. >>186198786


If some "rescue fleet" comes to help a rorqual you've got a bigger issue than a single haw dread

Maybe you should have just warped off?

>Maybe you should have just warped off?
I love how often this comes up when people try to defend the current state of capitals

>>186206518
>That image
Got a real good laugh out of me
Thanks man, I think I might join them

>>186207050
>out numbered 3-1
>its the fucking capitals I swear

>wow someone lit a cyno maybe it's time to gtfo
>omg we got shat on, fucking caps

>>186205901
It's hit and miss but sometimes you run into 50m of loot or can salvage some T2 wrecks.

>>186206786
You're assuming that a Rorq defense fleet has no reason to jump FAX to it, which is the opposite of what's actually happening when one gets tackled in null and stuff tries to save it.

This was the initial statement:
>>Either way the losers could have coordinated to kill the subcaps
To which I replied that one can't simply melt tackle through FAX reps with a small-medium fleet.

>>186207163
We even said this when someone complained about how a rorqual cyno made a gang align out, and then an anon started arguing that it's easy to fight against whatever jumps in to save said rorw by defanging carriers, and how HAW dreads aren't a problem because "muh 15km range, can't track cruisers anyway, dread needs to use grappler itself or it's useless"

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>sub ran out a few months ago
>havent played since
>havent even updated
>been busy with other things in life
>two girlfriends
>sex on the daily
>taking care of doctor stuff
>dont have a car because it got totaled
>watching stupid movies and lets plays before sleeping
>havent even thought of spaceships in a month
>barely think of anything remotely sci-fi

>still manage to have an EVE dream where im getting my ship blown up

it was terrible. the UI was all casual and it was just big buttons and simple words. i couldnt find a stargate and just kept warping to asteroid belts, and eventually got got up in low sec, and into a battle. then my ship got wrecked, and i warped off in my pod..
The hell is wrong with me?

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>two girlfriends

nice blog tard, subscribed retweeted, broadcasted for reps

>>186208621

I quit 8 years ago and I still have the occasional dream about it. I'm usually in a carrier deep in hostile Null without backup. I never actually die though

>gallente ship
>grey lump
every time

WiNGSPAN or All-Out

>retards or retards

>>186117968
>solo pvp died
It died because people are upshipping fights like batshit. "Oh here's 5 dudes in frigs trawling for fights in lowsec, better drop a dread on it!"

and also multiboxers running a super tanky tackle and dropping faction ships on people when they cant get away. Nobody wants to take fights anymore because who knows if that dude looking for a fight is just him or he's got 2 alts ready to hit the gate into the system to just headstomp you?

>>186212169
I'd like to try some WH pvp gang while I print iskies in NS, I think Wingspan will be better

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>I'd like to try some WH pvp gang while I print iskies in NS, I think Wingspan will be better

>>186212318
People could always multibox, this isn't new or related.

>>186212581
Guide me then

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>Wingspan
>WH corp

>>186212748
See attached picture.

>>186212581
>>186212845
>>186212852
Bad memories ?

>>186212748
Wingspan is a bunch of clueless redditors feeding bombers and falcons on highsec holes. They have no presence in wspace.

>>186213063
Okay so which one would you recommand

Team pizza.

Who ?

>>186213251
None of them if you want wspace pvp. The decent groups only farm and roll for nullsec holes nowadays.

>>186213707
I want to have fun while hunting, I don't want a FC yelling in my ears and asking bunch of weirds things. That's why Wingspan seems good, on their videos at least

>>186212630
jump drives / bridging is the point, it's extremely cancerous at the moment with how it's unstoppable and instant

>muh caps

>he thinks only caps can jump

>if it weren't instant this sebo cyno gnosis with 4 rr exeqs on him would totally lose point on me i swaer

>>186213879
Videos are highlights. In reality, hunting is 90% scanning and finding nothing or missing targets. You have to be good at probing fast, otherwise you'll waste even more time because wh systems are predominantly empty.
Wingspan start from kspace, they aren't cohesive enough to fight shit bigger than lone farmers and feed a lot randomly. If that sounds interesting, go ahead.

>>186214686
Yes, I know that scanning is a big part of the hunt, I should give it a try

i'm about to put 5b on the table for some smartbombing BS, are they really efficient ? I read somewhere 25-35m/tick per account (i'm going for 5)

>Do some WH exploration
>Go around some data sites and whatnot
>Get to one site
>Been D scanning the entire time
>60 mil in cargo
>Approach last site and first data storage
>Some fucking meme nigga comes out of cloak and kills me

Why, what compells someone to camp for that long? If I didn´t have 60 mil would he just keept camping there???

>>186212071
All-Out for more red on the killboard

The better question is, why did you try to deny him content?

>>186215015
Read about 35-40m ticks before taxes per character with 3 accounts (2 SBs, 1 gunner). Going beyond that might or might not increase the efficiency due to plex costs. You also need system with 4 gated havens for max ticks.

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Because you happened to be there. I also gave up on gudfites and just try to kill anything that I meet. If it is some newbro or total retard fit, I'll reimburse it and send him some working fit.
Fair pvp is a meme.

>>186215586
>plex costs
I extract them monthy so it's not really expensive, I'll try and will give my opinion here

>>186216347
You need bling tank if you want 3 smartbombers or more.

just don't use sbs that are strong against your tank

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dedicated balance team

>>186215047
To get there he had to scan you, which he probably did in 1 probe cycle and you missed it, especially if it was a system larger than 14au. He uncloaked as soon as he was in tackle range or close enough to bump.

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>>186216564
>>186216725
Machariel *5 (pic related) + gunner

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>With the launch of EVE: Valkyrie - Warzone, you will no longer need a VR headset to join us in our epic first-person spaceship shooter!

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>people unironicalkly flying petes again

>>186216930
>meta 0 SB
Are you fucking real you faggot? Also that fit is utter trash

>>186215219
>All-Out for more red on the killboard
holy shit they are really shitty

>>186217269
Got it from here https://crossingzebras.com/smartbomb-ratting-your-guide-to-a-high-investment-high-payoff-activity/
Just the greedy version

>>186217437
nigga

you SMART bomb or not, buy the faction EM SM for best output

You need the fucking bomb range you tard

>>186217748
>>186217827
I was planing to scout with an alt and BM the middle of the rock, then warp my BS in it, 5 bs would provide a lot of range (2k5 around the BM) and can do the same thing as 2bs with faction SB, no ?

>>186217990
Large 'Vehemence' Shockwave Charge
Start with those and upgrade to faction later.

>>186218543
I'm against Angel, need to hit exp, I'll go for the 'Notos' then

I want to go full greedy (and retard) and go for the rokh instead of machariel

>rokh

>>186219167
>not flying a 2,1b macha
>not beeing a fat bee in delve

HAR HAR HAR POORS

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Half the price of machariel but smaller

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5km

>>186217990
fit them like this
https://zkillboard.com/related/30004463/201705170300/

https://zkillboard.com/kill/63945039/

>>186220878
>https://zkillboard.com/kill/63945039/
just watch intel and dont get tackled

jeeeesus