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Shaman Edition

>Latest News
Knights of the Frozen Throne is the next expansion.
Cards are being revealed.
Check hearthpwn everyday.

>Deck lists, news etc
hearthstonetopdecks.com
hearthpwn.com
hsreplay.com (Buy Premium For Us)
http://thelightforge.com/TierList (Arena)
vicioussyndicate.com

>Open Tournaments
https://strivewire.com/
http://play.eslgaming.com/hearthstone/
http://zotac-cup.com

Last Thread >>184313626
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First for ignore tripfags
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what Jade Rogue is missing to be a good deck?

other than more jade cards because blizzard said they won't print anymore of those
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>>184365167
Second for ignore tripfags
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Woah! This is the earliest I've been in a new thread!
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First
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>>184365268
Yeah you thought
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>>184365167
Seventh for use Anonymize so that all the retards will stay anons.
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>>184365257
Wowee! We'll get in on the early Hearthstone discussion for once!
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NEW CARD: Nice job Blizz, its a Discover: Highmane
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>>184365627
Somebody just said last thread how happy they were that discover wasn't used in this expansion. top kek
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>>184365627
C O N T R O L H U N T E R
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>he pre-ordered
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>>184365627
Read: Discover Highmane
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>>184365627
Oh hell no
>3 mana
Atleast it's gonna compete with other amazing cards
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>>184365912
>>184365627
You guys are thinking too small. It's more like

Discover: Skill command for lethal
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>>184365627
more hunter bullshit lmao and not a single good mage card yet
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I feel like the mandatory grind to 5 every month is something terrible that no one talks about enough. It's a fucking chore and if you do it once you can do it any time. It's just time consuming fucking nonsense.
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>>184365627
We hunter card draw now
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>>184366054
Actually, you don't even have to play hearthstone at all. There is nothing mandatory about any of it.
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>>184366054
Well at least there are winstreaks unlike the excruciating grind to legend.
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>>184365627
>more minion tutoring when what hunter needs is spell tutors
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>>184366017
You clearly didn't read the card because Skill Command isn't a minion.
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>>184366054
now that we are guaranteed 400 dust for it everytime I have no problem with it.

It sucked when it was only a card back
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>/hsg/ told me my OC was broken.
>blizzard proceeds to print a cheaper version of it on a vanilla minion.

Who's laughing now?
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>>184366054
I stopped doing that completely. Now I get to ~15 with some hardcode meme shit and that's about as far as I go. 15 seems like a nice rank where I can win with memes and not be completely overrun by netdecking.
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>>184366252
what the fuck are you talking about
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>>184366054
Just getting to 10 every month is a chore. I don't have the patience to grind to 5
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>>184366252
that's not the same.

Are you retired? You are getting

>ability to see what the opponents hand is
>ability to remove the most important counter/win condition
>for 3 mana
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>regular common cards are a possible 8 win arena reward
Disgusting
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>he preordered
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>draft a solid deck that isnt too rng dependent
>also get onyxia
>lose to pavelling book polymorph mage
>lose to double meteor mage
>lose to topdeck vilespine slayer
>didnt draw onyxia once in 9 games
im really sad
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>>184366769
>Onyxia will never be good
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>>184366769
You can always play TES:L if you want. It's free to play and way less RNG independent. Give it a try my friend.
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>>184365447
>forced anonymize
>there will still be posts complaining about tripfags
>you'll still recognize the tripfag by their obnoxious writing style
bandaid solution
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>>184365627
FUCK YEAH BOIS HUNTER CONFIRMED VIABLE AGAIN GONNA SLOT THIS BADBOY IN FOR A TUNDRA RHINO, STAMPEDING KODO, OR HIGHMANE!! ABOUT TIME THAT HUNTER, THE CLASS REQUIRING THE MOST SKILL AND INTELLIGENCE, FINALLY GETS SOME CARDS TO COMPETE WITH THE FAGGOT CARDS OF OTHER CLASSES. I ALREADY HIT RANK 5 WITH A NON-IDEAL MIDRANGE HUNTER, THIS PUTS THE NAIL IN THE COFFIN. EXCEPT ME TO BE PLOWING YOUR BUTTHOLES IN LEGEND EVERY MONTH FROM NOW ON. AND THERE'S GONNA BE EVEN MORE GOOD HUNTER CARD RELEASED THIS EXPANSION TOO!
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>>184365096

I fixed Bolvar, bros. Blizzard hire me!
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>>184366252
>see opponents hand
>pick a card you want
>disrupt your opponents hand reliably

vs

>randomly discard a card from our opponent's deck
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Is this enough for the next expansion?
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so we can assume this expantion is the new tgt?
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>>184366398
I doubt he's retired, most of us are in our early to mid 20's
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>>184366924
she's so cute and angry, i just wanted to play her
>>184366940
fuck off todd
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>>184367008
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>>184367093
>5
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>>184367008
I know it's you, Emeric.
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>>184367093
I love how you're trying to humblebrag when you have a legitimately pitiful amount of gold lmao. Hit me up when you hit 5 digits little boy. 70 packs is only 20 more than little preorder deal Blizz offered, you're not enough close to having enough goldies for a top tier new expansion deck.
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>>184367210
I know anon, I want to use Onyxia too. I wish the whelps had charge or something.
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>>184366996
And it's a Common.
Toast's F2P Hunter is going to get a decent boost this expansion.
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>>184367118
The princes are the most blatant money grubbing scheme I have ever fucking seen in a videogame, its fucking much worse than tgt, I fully believe that set was simply an accident.
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>>184367093
>5
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>>184367163
Stop replying to the tripfag.
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>>184367336
I love how you're trying to humblebrag when you have a legitimately pitiful amount of gold lmao.
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That would have been an incredible top deck...

Too bad.
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>pally deathwings
>topdecks curator after

Congrats you fucking piece of shit.
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>>184367585
>Those tits
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>>184367585
Reminder that there's no actual "deck" in hearthstone. There's just a list of names, and the game selects one at random to give you whenever drawing is triggered.

It could say "remove the bottom card" and be exactly the same. It essentially just removes a random card.
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>>184367585
Predict her summoning phrase
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>>184367585
>discard mages novice engineer
>help him get faster to his combo pieces
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>>184367585
>shortstacks
well they did something right
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When does the exp. release?
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>he thinks the game is random
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>>184367895
Mid September.
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>>184367774
'just a little off the top'
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>>184367948
Nothing in the universe is random. It's all a set of predetermined actions governed by all prior occurrences starting with the conception of space/time.
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>>184367774
Did you need this? No.
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STOP GIVING THE TRIPFAG (you)'s FFS RETARDED CUNTS
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>>184365627
YOGG HUNTER HERE WE GO
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>>184367895
These pics seriously aren't funny dude I don't know why you come here hating on Reynad. Your jealousy makes me sad. He is the ultimate alpha of the Hearthstone community and seems like a total bro.
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there is no fucking coherent theme to this expansion except muh deathrattle, even more cancerous freeze and gimmicky hero cards
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>>184368172
>Trying to sound smart
>This is the same fag who mixed up "retired" with "retarded"
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>>184367750
>inb4 Warlock hero says "Battlecry: Discover 5 cards from your deck. Put them on top of your deck"
>Hero Power: 2 mana: Draw 2 cards.
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>>184368534
>Inb4
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>>184366054
>not botting to 5
Wait you're telling me that there are people who willingly run on the hampster wheel every month?
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>>184368379


>ultimate alpha

>isnt papa brode


nice try, you obviously do NOT reddit sir


edit:rip my inbox lol. thanks for the gold kind stranger!
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>>184368032
>>184368181
STOP REPLYING TO THE TRIPFAG
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>>184368286
This is a good point.
It boosts the odds of getting any Old Gods or similar minion-based combo to work out. And with the chance of a second go.
Pretty dangerous if Hunter makes it to Turn 10 ever.
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>>184368458
So you have
>Freeze
>Deathrattle
>Hero cards

In Un'Goro you had
>Adapt
>Elementals
>Quests

While Mean Streets had
>multi-class cards
>Discover (?)
>???

I don't see your point, shitposter-san.
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rate my arena deck
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>>184366924
she already has been good in old gods era evolve shaman
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>>184368742
What tripfag?
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>>184368834
I don't think I ever saw that happen during old gods but it sounds decent.
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just drafted 3 stonehill defenders in arena, can i get 12 wins?
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>>184368967
the good old onyxia evolve with whelps into doomsayer
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>>184368848
So you're just samefagging.
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>>184369072
Removal is more important than good minions
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>>184369130
How exactly?
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>>184367895
these pics make me laff keep it up anon ignore raynard posters
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>>184369128
>evolving with a 1 cost minion on board
>ever
You deserved it.
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New Death knight reveal when
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>>184369362
Next one is probably Trump with a 10 mana Warrior Death Knight built for control supposed to synergies with Dead Man's Hand.
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>>184369226
they are newfriends who don't know about 4chanx let alone anonimize.
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I want to _____ Gnomish Vampire.
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>>184369549
craft!
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>>184369549
marry and fuck
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>>184369549
dust
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>>184369549
Discard.
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>>184368032
>>184368181
"Trust me...this is going to suck"
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>>184368827
really good, at least 10 wins
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Why do I have the feeling that combo shitters will cry so much about Gnomish Vampire that they add "Deathrattle: Add that card to your opponent's hand" eventually?
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>>184369549
Hug and kiss
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best memes i can pull out with meatwagon go
obviously doomsayer but what else
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>>184367750
>the game selects one at random to give you whenever drawing is triggered
Not true, Brode a long time ago that they are ordered. You are right that it's the same as deleting the bottom card.
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>>184369890
tar lord
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>>184369853
they'd never do something like that
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>>184369890
Target Dummy and Mimiron's head
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Quest amge is the most broken shit just fucking timewarp your whole health back and get two goes? Fucking haxxx
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>>184369890
Shieldbearer.
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>>184369983
>Quest amge is the most broken shit just fucking timewarp your whole health back and get two goes?

go ahead and play "broken quest mage".
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if you got to add one new hero class to the game what would it be /hsg/? Tell me about them.

Id add a mechanical hero, hero power ads a spare part to its hand that cost 0 mana

Im sure you have better ideas.
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>>184369549
Headpat.
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>>184367585
They did it, they printed the ultimate noob trap card. Gonna be fun to play against shitters running this glorified river croc

>b-b-but I milled a card! How could I lose!
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Will we see more Quests or will it be a one time thing because doing 2-3 quests is dumb?
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>>184369983
more conditional ice block
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>big druid
>opening hand is deathwing, deathwing dragonlord, ysera, anaconda
>draw barnes on turn 4, play it as nothing else
>silence owl
>draw bright eyed scout on 5
>5 cost innervate
ok so I'm not meant to win this one
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>>184370145
Nah. Quests are like Inspire and Tri Class Cards.
Just a set gimmick that will never come back. It would be cool to see a set in the future that adds 1 of each forgotten mechanic.
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>>184370328
But they cannot let go of discover from LoE because they know it was the best expansion and the mechanic is actually good.
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>>184370061
Darion Mograine, Death Knight
Hero Power: Summon a 1/1 Ghoul with Charge. It dies at the end of your turn.
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>>184370154
>>184370054

Are you trying to be actively facetious because it really is broken specially on fucking EU, you literally cant do anything to stop it
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>>184370629
more like the only good mechanic released in any expansion, I cant honestly think of another one released after classic.
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How far up the ladder could a basic deck take me?
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>>184370936
rank 15
i havent played all month and im facing people with card for card netdecks at rank 17 on eu
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>>184370328

I think quests really work since it gives something to do and allows people to try and meme two quests together that shouldn't work and make something insane happen atleast once every 50 games.

I think Tri-class cards had a bit of flaw to them though other factiony stuff could be fun, but hard to produce unless you work a set idea among them. Inspire is just bad and hard to use right since people always focus them.

Funny enough, Inspire and Tri-class cards are the hardest to make OC for
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>>184370910
quest mage is shit against any aggro deck. It's nothing but a meme
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>>184370936
19 max, specially on EU
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>>184371041
jokes on you i actually took quest amg to legend this month, you can tell people dont know how to counter it and they rtry to rush you down using all there good cards leaving you able to fuck them over
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>>184371040
that is some very bad art
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>>184370061
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_m9wfpW28s
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>>184366017
>>184366179
>tripfag is retarded
wow what a surprise
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>>184371076
>EU is hard meme
Why is every relevant hearthstone pro/personality from NA then?
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>>184371364
>Hearthstone pro
Keep it up with the good jokes please
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>>184371285
Stop replying to it.
It just wants attention. That's the only reason it even uses its weeby tripcode anyways.
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>>184371364
because its easier to be pro in a saturated field of autists like america, theres a lot more wack players
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Remember to report not only the tripfags but everyone who replies to them as well. Most of them are probably the tripfag samefaggng anyways.
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>>184369549
>rape
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>>184371763
good luck when she mills your dick out of existence
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>>184371690
report for what
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>>184369940
Tar won't work
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>>184369549
be dominated by!
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>>184371985
Sauce for the card art?
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>>184372135
good taste
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>>184372135
I mean like sexually lol, but not in a weird way haha
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>>184372127
>handbuff/buff at all
>it works
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>>184372442
>Playing buff cards on warrior
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>>184372661
>playing Meat Wagon
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>>184372661
Whizzbanger Mk 7 says high
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>>184369890
Lightspawn
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>>184372861
Hard to pull a 5/5 from your deck without buffs
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>>184373015
lightspawn is a 0/5 moron
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>>184373015
Anon...
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>>184373015
>0/5
What?
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>>184371985
do you really need to post the same OC in every thread?
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>>184373394

I posted her like 2 weeks ago, I haven't visited this thread since the announcement
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>>184372861
>>184373015
>this is going to happen everytime Lightspawn is mentioned with the meme wagon
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>>184366924
she was in a top tier yogg druid not so long ago you mongoloid
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>>184373015
This is going to be thing everyday until release isn't it?
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I've just about fucking had it.

I'm gonna poopsock pirate warrior for the next fifteen hours until I hit legend.
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Send Help
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>>184374380
Start over
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>>184374252
neck yourself tripnigger
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Can someone tell me how to play freeze mage? are you supposed to get acolytes out as fast as possible? whats the point of them in the deck i already have 2 arcane intellects this seems to be slowing me down and i can never get any value from them because im getting bursted before i can do anything
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>>184365447
how do you do that
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>>184374276
Good luck anon, the grind on the last day is always the worst in terms of tilt potential, especially with an incredibly draw-reliant deck like PW.
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>>184374446
pls
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>>184374561
how the fuck do you get bursted?
just glyph into freeze/stall spells niqqa
or better yet kys and stop playing mage
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god I love raping jaina "you win this time" HHHNNNGG
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>>184374380
that's a really good arena deck you got there anon

12 wins for sure
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Glyph or Meteor for a first pick in arena?
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>>184374049
Shut your fucking mouth you know nothing shieldbearer faggot
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>>184374957
yeah enjoy those rare lucky wins and sniff me loser
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>>184374380
>no Krush
>only one CotW

BOOOOOO
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>>184374380
replacement for the marsh queen?
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TEll me your honest opinion about DK Jaina without using memes this time.
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>>184375135
>This cameltoe
HHHHNNNNNNNNGGGG
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nice card
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>>184375135
I will slam my cock in you so hard there will be nothing but cum left to sniff
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>>184375135
Heh, careful what you wish for, Jaina.
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>>184375498
That card is getting changed before release.
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>>184375498
you slut
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>>184375436
She is the perfect remedy for late game control matches that mage succumbs to. Priest and warrior usually wear you out due to their hero powers. With your new found life steal you can win more of those matches.
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>>184375438
The best part is the side vulva peek

>>184375498
It was basically made for me
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>>184374561

Deal with their threats until Alex
Alex them in the face
Burn their face and win

Consistently getting your burn and Alex needs the Acolytes in addition to the Ints

Always know how much burn you have total in your deck, know what your topdecks are and your chances of topdecking. Might be able to see a sneaky lethal 3+ turns away.

There's no rule of when to get your Acolytes out. If you're low on cards and need guaranteed value, wait until 5 mana and ping it. Especially against control decks like Taunt Warrior where their Axe cucks the draw. If you're against token shaman and he's farting out 1/1s, that's a sick board to Acolyte into. Also draws off of stuff like Turtle Jungle conveniently.

Many times against aggro you have to Alex yourself. If that's the case, hopefully Ice Block isn't popped, and it's a situation where they can't kill Alex, can't pop your Block, and you win off of repeated Alex hits and remaining burn.

Use your life as a resource. Just because the aggro druid has board going into turn 5 doesn't mean you have to waste a Frostbolt on his 2/3. Just hero power pass, let him Living Mana, then Volcanic or Nova/Doomsayer. Your life total can be used as a punching bag to bait people into playing hard into aoe. After all, what's the difference between you being at 12 life or 22 life when they're out of cards and have no board? If taking an extra 10 allows you to checkmate them, bait them.

Also some people aren't stupid. They'll use resources to make sure you only draw 1 off of your Acolyte, won't play hard into aoe, maybe teched Eater of Secrets.

Now go enjoy your freeze maging.
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>>184375167
Do people unironically run krush now?
I won a game today by mindvision it
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>>184375436
I hate freeze effects so I'm not a fan.
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>>184375893
I run Krush but my deck is steeped in irony.
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>>184375498
Did they release full card art already?
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>>184375839
Yo thanks man that was pretty in depth Im generally doing most of that, just seems to be an unlucky run at the moment but whenever i switch to evolve shaman and go against a freezer turns i cant stop them, feels like i might be doing something wrong or maybe just bad luck

>>184374861
fuck you you fucking cancerous piece of shitstain i hope your mom dies of cancer you fucking insinuating iece of fagget cum
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>>184375498
>she will be prioritize to burn cards like malygos, antonidas, reno, healing, taunts, and high mana value

>people will have stories to tell
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Token shaman op
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Does anyone else want to rape tripfags asshole while hitting in the face?
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>>184375839
what do you do against aggro when they drop pirate first turn with stitches? use your fireball or drop a minion on board like arcanologist? first move btw
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>>184376520
>a freeze mage player is retarded
What a surprise.
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>>184376668
congrats
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>>184367585
Now how salty people would be if they would release a priest card for stealing directly from the deck since opponents deck disruption is now a thing.
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>>184376668
congrats niqqa post dick please
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>>184376963
If they are going that route make it so that you randomly permanently steal a card from your opponent's set
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Why are tripfags so fucking hungry for (you)'s? I've been diagnosed with ADHD and yet I can't understand this level of attention faggotry.
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>>184376668
how? i got to rank 5 with this token shaman but cant progress, are you eu? post your big black DECK lease
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>>184377231
He's a school kid you can tell
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>>184376668
Bullshit. Specially when number one deck on data reaper is Mid Range Paladin
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>>184369890
Grinder Summoning Stone Ressurect Priest!
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>>184376668
Is Wiiiiiiinds unironically played in ranked shaman right now?
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>>184377832
probably came from turtle
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>>184377832
I play it in mine, I'm rank 3
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Card name just got changed. I prefer the previous one.
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>>184378294
>I prefer the previous one.
You shouldn't have made a fake new one then.
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>>184376859
>>184377023
Thanks, here's the deck: http://metastats.net/deck/1d46f197-ecce-4f87-b754-dbb4e78bfe09/last7/
Think I lost around 5 games from rank 3 to legend.
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>>184378294
why not just go with Gnompire and be done with it?
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>>184378342
http://www.hearthpwn.com/news/3104-new-warlock-card-revealed-gnomeferatu
And you should look up shit before accusing people of anything.
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>>184378342
It's not fake though.
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>>184378403
>http://metastats.net/deck/1d46f197-ecce-4f87-b754-dbb4e78bfe09/last7/

SEA GIANT

Ah hell no, this is some fake deck no way this would work
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>>184377832
See >>184378017
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>tfw Jungle Giants still shit post Frozen Throne because their theme is Taunt minions and not "value minions with strong spells stapled on"
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will Blizzard ever use inspire again?
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WTF quest druid?!?! am i going to lose wtf is this?
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>>184378547
Sea giant won me a fair amount of games, great in most cases
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>>184378825
Considering you are not playing a basic deck, no.
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>>184378817
Inspire? What's that? DID YOU CHECK OUT OUR NEW CARD? GUL'DANGEROUS? HAHAHAHA DON'T FORGET TO PRE-ORDER
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>>184378825
You have a perfect hand, stop crying and start smorking
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>>184378817
Hopefully not
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>>184375498

>vampire in the expansion introducing lifesteal
>doesn't have lifesteal
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>>184378825
Quest druid is almost as bad as the last losegamesaur.
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>>184378989
>Jade claws and maelstrom against big druid
>Great hand
Wew lad
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>>184378904
Can you explain the giant mechanic and when to use it it just seems out of place in shaman, do you just throw it out to eat opponents resources?
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>>184379045
Neither her nor succubus steal your blood if you know what I mean
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>>184379050
I'd argue it's even worse than that, since Kibbler was at least able to make the Paladin Quest work sometimes and relatively consistently won his games by using Galvadon.

Meanwhile, nobody figured out a decent Quest Druid list yet that's not just ramp druid with a bad 1-drop added.
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>>184379085
It can be used against the 2/2 that adds a 5+ atk minion to your hand and the 5/1 if he gets a bad adaptation
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>trying to complete 50 class card quest in casual
>every faggot is a tryhard playing aggro netdecks
y
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>>184370119

lets put a best case scenario here.

>mill both jade idols before they're played.

>jade druid irrevocably loses any kind of late game engagements as a result .

Most of the time it wont win you the game, but the fact a 2 mana dice roll CAN win you the game makes auto include on any deck that can afford to run a 2 mana 2/3.
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>>184379128
I found myself often just playing it for 4 or less mana and almost no decks seem to run hard removal so it just closed out games.
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>Turn 1 play Possessed Villager
>If second, coin Sanguinar
>have a 1/1 and a 3/3 on turn 1
>win
>If first, play possessed villager
>turn 2 play flame imp and Sanguinar
>opponent at 29 hp, have you 1/1 3/3 and 3/2 on turn 2

Did Blizzard seriously think 5/5 of stats turn 1 or 7/6 of stats turn 2 was a good idea for Zoo to have?

At least the 7/6 is hard countered by defile
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>>184379176
>implying drinking living juices capable of creating new life aren't literally stealing life from your body
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>>184379405
For a long time now ranked is better for dailies because casual is filled with tryhards that have all golden decks.
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you fucking noobs said i was alright against the fucking druid!?!?!?!? WHAT THE FUCK
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>>184379405
I like to picture the people who play pirate warrior and token druid in casual as those people who post in /an/ that they shoot their neighbor's cats with BB guns
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>>184379619
Sorry we didnt know you were bad
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>>184379619
It seems you lost control of the board anon
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>>184379470
i've been playing that deck too except with 2 sea giants and 1 dopplegangster. i find the decks that do run hard removal are going to use in on thing from below because they think that's you biggest threat and then your throw your seamen in his face and they don't know what to do.
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>>184379619
why are you playing that card
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>>184379619
I don't recognize that card on the far left
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>>184379714
Are you legend though? This nikka did it wit one fmailia
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>>184379619
You fucking suck, anon. Sorry about that.
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>>184379784
Its a token
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>>184379784
Shellshifter>>184379784
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>>184379784
It's a shellshifter option
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>>184379762
i evolved into that its all i had to play
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>>184379762
He may have gotten it as an evolution of a 1-drop
>>184379836
>>184379851
>>184379869
Ah, makes sense. I usually see it in the 3/5 taunt form
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>>184379793
no. i've gotten a few times and it's not worth grinding that much imo.
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>>184379405
if you're not rank 9~6 on both standard or wild then it really is better to play ranked than casual

90% of people use casual to farm wins with tier 1 decks
5% actually try different/meme decks just for the sake of it
the other 5% are people doing quests with non-tier 1 decks
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>>184380004
in other words you are fucking pathetically shizen
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>>184380061
nice source you got there, i believe you
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>put millhouse in wild zoo deck as a farewell since I'll be deing it for the next exp
>play it in 3 games on curve
>enjoy the tempo and literally not get punished once
>play it on curve 4th time
>priest immediately concedes
>mfw wild meta best meta
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>>184379534
Meant 4/4 on turn 1
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>>184380061
I play burgle rogue in casual and I can confirm that these ratios are correct
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>>184380063
i just don't enjoy this game as much as i used to.
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>>184379534
Have you seen what aggro druid can do turn one?
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>>184380238
>I play burgle rogue in casual

muh nigga
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>>184380323
An innervated 3/3 on turn 1 isn't 4/4 of stats
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>>184380191
>trying to get people to craft memehouse
You cheeky little cunt.
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>>184376668
>4 digit legend
>netdeck
>mobile
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>>184380347
Yep. Hearthstone is quite RNG-dependant nowadays, so I might as well take it to its logical exteme
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>>184380419
>Innervate + coin + pirate into patches + fire fly + flame elemental + 1 mana buff
I feel dirty every time
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>>184380419
An innervated 3/3 that becomes a 3/3 with Windfury and stealth on the next turn and a 6/6 after that is much stronger actually. Assuming he didn't buff it beyond recognition on t2.
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Rogue or Paladin (or Warlock)?
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>>184380682
Paladin all day every day. Cleanse the world of filthy mages.
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>>184380682
I'd go with paladin because I suck playing as rogue in arena
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>>184380565
Hey fuck you man I'm on vacation
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>>184380682
whatever you feel like homie
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Anyone else fucking bored?
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Is the season ending in a few hours or do I have another day?
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>>184380606
I feel that.
I've been using Casino Mage in Wild as my go-to deck for a while.
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>>184381285
Isn't it resetting in like 7 hours?
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>>184381285
>>184381391

There are 31 days in July, it's not resetting in 7 hours
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>>184381209
Kind of.
I got more meth than I know what to do with but I still don't feel like grinding ladder much.
Building a curve-deck with Malchezaar from the ground up.
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got the quest goys

Trocanick #1805
NA
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>>184381391
>>184381285
>anons don't even know how many days are in a certain month
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>>184381550
don't do meth anon

it'll turn you from 25% useless human being to 75%
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>>184381716
Great, even more time to climb ladder with pirates!
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>>184381716
what's a month
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>>184381861
A social construct.
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>>184381550
you know when I'm grinding quests in casual or wild ranked I always ayy lmao when the malchezaar animation pops up. It's worse pit fighter since it actually makes your deck worse on average.
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>>184380061
Wild seems more like half-and-half for me between those doing meta, and those doing basic/gimmick/quest decks.
Standard seems a good bit more farmer-ridden in comparison, but it's possible my decks just aren't as good there.
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>>184381928
holy shit gregory
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>>184381935
>malchezaar animation pops up
'well I guess I win'
I hope to find a way around that somehow.
Starting the testing with some extremes. Step 1, nothing but 1 cost cards besides. Step 2, trickle in ramp maybe. Step 3, I'll get to Step 3 later.
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>drafting paladin arena
>have to choose between steed or stonehill
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>>184382667
stonehill gets you something better than a steed on its own, no worries
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They should really nerf mages though.
I dont care that its the beginners class, its easy, braindead and OP to play with 0 interaction. Theres no trading just polymorphs, freezes and fireballs

Its most frustrating to deal with than quest rogue, with mage they can pull some random RNG bullshit and you dont know what deck they are playing
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>>184382529
Enjoy your Nat, Darkfisher and Lorewalker Cho
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>>184382759
Well, we're going to be seeing a lot more mages in the future unless the remaining Deathknight Hero cards are really good
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Can a Carnassa deck still work?
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>>184382954
>still
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Eyo, got a EU 80g quest.

Just gonna random a deck with first person added.

Clownshoes #2434
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>>184382759
Blizzard would never allow a whole class to be unplayable garbage, even though it is what mage deserves
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>>184382806
I wouldn't mind those too much actually, they'd curve pretty well. Cho and Nat can even draw some for me.
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So no death knight reveal today?
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>>184382939
>more mage
are you implying frost lich is good, or are you just saying that the new cards don't compare to the current mage core as it is?
Because only one of those statements is correct.
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>>184383142
Nat Darkfisher wouldn't be drawing for you, but for your opponent
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>>184383092
>Blizzard would never allow a whole class to be unplayable garbage, even though it is what mage deserves


>priest
>shaman
>warlock

They have no problem letting one class be terrible for extended periods
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>>184383248
The mage hero card is almost objectively better than Jaraxxus, but I'm not claiming it can carry a deck by itself
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noob here. It seems like an almost-competitive hunter deck can be constructed for a very small amount of mana and it looks like some more common cards are coming in the new expansion. What's the catch? Are hunters underpowered or something? I'm a bit worried because I just beat some guy using the deck I was planning on building on the ladder with my current junk deck.
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Did anyone here unironically preorder?
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>>184383092

Have you recently seen the state of warlocks?
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>>184383551
Whats your reason for using a trip code? Do you have a legitimate reason other than pissing people off?
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>>184383668
>weaker hero power
>no weapon
>less healing potential
>objectively better
all of my wat
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>>184383808
Are you a newfag? Tripfags are attention whores.
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>>184383682
heres how hunter works

you draw your curve of 1-2-3
or you lose
the moment you lose board you lose because they took away all burst and made call of the wild 9 mana
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>>184383810
>less healing potential
???????
Why would anyone ever reduce their maximum life to 15 willingly? You might as well play Majordomo
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>>184383810
>less healing potential
>guaranteed 5 healing and a 3 healing Elemental on board
>turns entire deck into healing spells
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>>184383789

I preordered to get my guaranteed golden legendary I get in every good goy preorder (pic related). Plus, I got a sweet arena draft buff. The 5 decks I've drafted since I preordered on Thursday have all got at least 8 wins.
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>>184383668
I disagree. its a lot harder to stack up value with your ping unless you fill your deck with x/1s, so it doesnt shut the door in value matchups like jaraxxus can and if you can get to 9 mana against aggro as any kind of control deck you were probably going to win anyway.
As a win condition I think its much worse than the standard medivh/alex+burn spells plan.
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>>184383808
he wants to emphasize that he's really special and important and deserves special treatment because of it
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Be ne
>Play echo shaman vs miracle rogue
>Play echo on Aya to cycle
>My opponent gets devolve through hallucination
>I am done with this shit.
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>>184378294
so where is the porn?
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>>184383792
warlock isn't unplayable garbage in wild so blizzard has a justification for that

hunter is not doing so great but it is cheap and you can climb with it

we haven't had a unplayable garbage class situation since GvG Shaman, not even WotOG Priest (and wild Priest was alright) was that bad
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>>184384705

"But they're playable in wild" isn't an argument. If a class sucks dick in standard (like warlock right now) that is a fuck up on Blizzard's behalf.
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>>184384705
you're insane
gvg mech shaman was pretty bad but a lot better than msg paladin or hunter or current warlock
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>>184384240
good job ne
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You know what is absolute foolproof cuck detector? When my nigger opponent uses lesser heal on 30 hp on turn 2.
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>HE PREORDERED FOR THIS
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>>184385671
THE LIGHT SHALL BURN YOU
>>
Totem and Murloc shaman decks are fun because they're based around taking cheap mooks and buffing them into unstoppable killing machines.

Freezing shit is just boring, especially for a class that doesn't have a lot of powers that would suggest or justify freezing as a significant power.
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>>184384921
>>184385109
I'm not trying to say "they're playable in wild so that's ok" what I'm saying is that if they weren't playable even in wild, it would actually become an urgent situation that needs blizzard's intervention

proof of that is exactly how shit hunter and paladin and current warlock were "allowed" to be shit in standard but blizzard didn't bother to change anything to directly buff them other than release new cards
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>>184385804
The term is weenie, you weenie
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>We'll be revealing 7 deathknights next week goys!
>No Deathknight today
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>>184385775
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>>184386002
Well nobody would know weenies like anon so I'll take your word for it.
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>>184386029
it isn't next week yet you fag
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The misuse of tripcodes should be a bannable offense.
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>HE PREORDERED
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>>184386050
The term is fag, you fag
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>mfw exchanged funds for a service not yet rendered
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>>184386173

Tripniggers will be the first to go after I win the lottery and buy 4chan
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>PREORDERING DUST
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>>184386002
Not an argument.

Totem and Murloc decks are fun and viable. Freeze is boring.
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>>184386373
dust is very useful...
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>>184365627
>Paladin tutor card is a 3 mana 2/2 draw a card
>Hunter tutor card has the exact same stats and mana cost but is discover instead, making it infinitely better

And don't say some shit like "but the Paladin one is more specific" because that literally only matters if it can pull an essential combo piece or an on curve play for next turn, which the Paladin card doesn't fucking do.
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>he pre-purchased
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>PRE
>ORDE
>RING
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>>184386470

Meanwhile the mage tutor card is a 2/3 2 drop
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>>184386348
>Spending money on lottery tickets


>preordering
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>he ordered in advance
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>>184386348
Make sure to purge most non-anime, non-vidya boards too.
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>ORDERING SOMETHING BEFORE ITS RELEASE
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>>184385775
>>184386047
>>184386212
>>184386373
>>184386527
>>184386535
>>184386619
>>184386693

what did they mean by this?
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>ORDERING
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>>184386715
>tiene que pagar por adelantado
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>commissioning an advance requisition for an unspecified product of dubious value
>>
Guys you know posting the exact same shit repeatedly is what makes /vg/ one of the worst boards on this site right?
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>>184386602
My point exactly, the balance on these cards is all over the fucking place.
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>>184367585
>already lewds
nice
>>
What does a non-disco zoolock look like right now? I know it's not the best deck but I need to get this quest done and that's all I can afford.
>>
>Vorbestellen
>>
>not supporting the small indie company
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>>184386701
if you wanted a pre-order, you should have just asked
post your bnet and i'll buy it for you
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>>184387156
t. pre-orderedfag
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>>184387274
BlackStar #1769
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>>184387156
>One of the worst
Yea right after r9k, b, pol, mlp, soc and lgbt
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why can't women exercise without having to be seen
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>>184387220
This is what any kind of warlock deck looks like these days
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>>184387334
you aren't poor silly
>>
>prepurchase
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>>184387369
Twitch was a mistake
>>
Ahune's free win is bullshit, that's why I always concede the first game.
>>
>>184387393
but I dont want to spend money on this game
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>>184387369
>why is this camwhore camwhoring?
>>
>>184387369
Because they are worthless attention whores who deserve to be raped. Especially those who go to the gym just to do the most retarded meme exercises to thirst for attention.
>>
>>184387468
that's not a good excuse.
>>
>>184387369
i dont see why you're complaining. she looks good
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>>184387623
it's not about how she looks. it's about her narcissism and obsessive need for external validation, which is being provided by armies of thirsty beta twitch viewers.

streams were a mistake.
>>
>>184387369
They found a way around the there are no grills on the internet rule.
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>>184387832
well what do you want her to do? it's a medium that makes her feel confident when her confidence is low.
>>
>>184387832
>streams were a mistake.
No. Straight beta males was a mistake.
>>
>>184386075
>Sunday
>Not the start of the week

???
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>>184387952
you watch them dont you
>>
STOP BEING CAMWHORES
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>>184388043
fuck you!
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>>184388178
no i only watch nev, kripp, and sometimes asmodai
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>>184365627
This card is so trash lol what would i ever use this piece of trash for. I'm going to throw away my board and all my tempo to discover either a slow 5 cost + card or a useless 1 or 2 drop instead of just playing my bow or companion or huntress. This doesn't work in mid or aggro hunter so what do i put it in a nonexistent slow hunter deck lol. Hunter cards like these that run opposite to the hero power are so consistently unplayable that i dont know why people in the thread are whining about it.
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>>184388204
>DmC ending credits
>>
>hsg mad and shitposting because they are all poor and don't have disposable income to spend on cards that guarantees a legendary and enough cards to play fun and competitive meta decks
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>>184388361
>and enough cards to play fun and competitive meta decks
this is what Blizzdrones actually believe will happen
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>>184366054
maybe u should try being good at the game LOL
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>>184388495
post dick
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>>184388495
>rank 18 btw
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>>184369890
cold blood -> malygos -> conceal
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what cards are rotating out with the new expansion?
where can I know what is going away and when?

newfriend here pls be gentle
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>>184388361
there are much better games with much better value for money out there
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>>184389358
none. rotations happen with the first expansion of the year.
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>>184388616
>>184388705
its just standard miracle rogue
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>>184389419
ah okay. Anywhere where I can see waht will be rotating out during that time?
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>>184389709
It'd be old gods, kara, mean streets and un'goro
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> Card thins your opponent deck for free!
I hope you are smart enough to evade Ben Brode trap, my fellow anons.
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>>184389709
it's going to be in about 8 or 9 months. i wouldn't really worry about it right now.
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>>184389852
>against a mage
>the rest of his deck is just burn
>now he has less burn
>still kills you because there's no good neutral heals
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>>184389852
Honest question, if tracking discarded two of your opponents cards would you think it's irrelevant?
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>deck thinning
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>>184389810
thanks anon i love you
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>>184389852
Why do so many people think this is bad? Like against freeze mage you'll happily waste 3 cards into acolyte to try and make mage overdraw alex. This card is literally free mill It literally destroys one of your opponents cards for free
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>>184390292
we'll see when the expansion comes out, unless a card seems really good or really bad you never really know. Even if this card is good it won't matter if warlock is still shit.
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>people think a free ass mill won't be played in Magestone
fucking wow
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Do you think Blizzard would be able to figure out and ban me if I make a bot to do my quests and hit my daily gold cap?
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>>184390441
There aren't enough effects like this for it to be a deck in HS, discarding at most 2 cards is nothing
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>>184390441
Trump/reynad came up with that "just imagine the card is at the bottom of your deck" meme so people treat your opponent knowing your win conditions are gone as trivial.

They argued fel reaver was the strongest card ever created and that milling wasn't a draw back
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Just discovered playing with the sound off. Suddenly I'm not getting mad at the game anymore. All these smug fucking minions have to shut up now.
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>>184389852
>thinning

Losing a random card is not "thinning" fuccboi.

Patches thins your deck, because you can get him out of the deck for free but you still also get him on the board. A freeze mage randomly losing their Alex is not "thinning". A jade deck losing its Aya is not "thinning".

And since you can see what gets discarded, it also tells you about your opponents deck, and lets you play around them not having that card (or 1 less copy of that card).
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>>184390632
>tripfag being retarded
what else is new
that warlock card does literally nothing, on average, if you don't reach fatigue
for every one game you burn alex there are 15 games where you just accelerated them drawing it by 1 turn

you're not "imagining" it being on the bottom of your opponent's deck because it's 100% equivalent in every way

milling is not a drawback on average and in those games where you don't discard literally your entire deck fel memer is a 5 mana 8/8 with no downside
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Rate and tips on how to play this abomination.
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>>184391574
card games are partly mind games. You are always playing around what possible outs your opponents have or don't or at least you should

if you play this card and a flamestrike burns up you know you are pretty safe to flood the board.

If you play that card and malygos burns up you know they can't burst you down from Xhp anymore.
etc

This is a huge boon.
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>>184391574
you may not burn an incredibly important card but you can still burn something useful. burning something that isn't their win condition doesn't do nothing, it could be very helpful. Sure versus specific deck types it may not be useful but others it could be great as you get rid of one of their cards and then have a 2/3 body on the board.
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>>184391997

2 for 1 and 5 for 1 shit with your war axe and gorehowl and fool's bane. Finish to face with big dik creepers and volcanosaur and gorehowlpyroblast. You're going to beat decks with poor card draw easily because of weapon value. You're going to lose to insane aggro because of all the damage you're taking, and insane value decks that have answers for your top end and can keep up with card advantage.
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>>184378294
we demand R34
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Have an open slot in my ramp druid but I don't know what to put in

Have been using Cenarius but I don't think he's that good in it, have both deathwings, y'shaarj, ysera and the rest of the standard ramp legendaries, just don't know what else to replace him with. It's always lame when y'shaarj or a anaconda pulls a 5/8 instead of a 10/10 or a 12/12
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>>184392697
do you got the beetleberries yet
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>>184392556
go to the /aco/ shortstack thread
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>>184392805
no I don't think the random 5 or more attack card is worth it when I could just put in a good 5 or more attack card

I've heard people say Tyrantus but I'd rather not craft a semi useless legendary for just one deck
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>>184392697
noggenfogger
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> draft warlock with 15 taunts and 15 board clears
> lose because system want me to win against the most cancerous arena class, hunter
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>>184392697

I don't know your collection bro. Literally just use a giant fucking minion.
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>>184392235
equally often you'll just help them draw something useful faster

>>184392085
knowing that the card is at the bottom of your opponent's deck does exactly the same thing if you don't reach fatigue
if the card read "reveal the bottom card of your opponent's deck" would you consider it as good as you do now?
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5 digits masterrace report in
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>>184393474
>equally often you'll just help them draw something useful faster
when did you run the numbers on every card in their deck and every ingame situation?
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>>184393474
>hey he burned my antonidas
>it's okay though mana wyrm was right after it
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I can't believe people are calling the gnomish vampire card bad. This isn't MtG. Hearthstone has 30 card decks, with a limit of 2 cards (1 for legendaries) and the limited space only allows so much removal to fit into a deck. Unless you're playing face Hunter or spam shaman, losing a card can be very detrimental. That's half the amount of whatever it is in your deck- gone. Essentially a removal (for free) that didn't allow your opponents battlecry to take effect. People calling this river croc are just ignorant, did you call arcanologist and rockpool hunter river croc level too? What about when their effects aren't optimal, they still get played as a well-statted minion. After this card burns your ice block you'll be the first complaining about this card.
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>>184393474
this card can be good, but it deepens on what warlock decks will be good, if any. If a warlock deck suffers against decks that it would be beneficial to burn cards against but does well against decks that it isn't beneficial to burn against then it could be good. It would be more of a counter card in those situations. And if by some sheer twist discolock becomes viable then this card would be great as even though you are "drawing" a card for your opponent by thinning their deck you won't have to discard any of your own cards but still get the discard benefits and have a chance to burn something very good. I'm not saying it's for sure gonna be good but it seems to have potential depending on how things turn out.
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>>184393709
you're retarded
do you think shuffling your opponent's remaining deck is a powerful ability? often you'll prevent them from topdecking malygos, just think of the possibilities!

>>184393889
>attempting rational conversation with tripniggers
got what I deserved desu
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>>184393936
Does it count for discard? If so it can be broken with Lady Lanathel.
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>>184393936
this card is good in and only in decks that attempt to and consistently manage to reach fatigue
if the game ends before fatigue you played a river crokolisk that revealed the bottom card of your opponent's deck
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>>184393931
It's only good in cucktrol mirror. Against aggro and midrange it's just river croc.
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>>184394060
don't think it does, because the "discard" keyword isn't in the text
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>>184394160
> Trying to out fatigue anyone as fucking Warlock.
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>>184379469
No it's a river corc and you are a shitter.
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>>184394228
>person who is so incapable of independent thought that they actually say "cuck" in every single post they make because they just copy what they see other people say thinks it's bad

Well that confirms it's good then.
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I got 12 wins. Proud of me, /hsg/?
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>>184394380
You will be first to cry when it mills your Antoniodas. Free win in constructed, decent in arena. One of the best card of expnasion.
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>>184394060
They were saying earlier that it counted for discards
>>184394160
again, it doesn't do nothing. it isn't worthless if it doesn't burn a their win condition, there are many things in multiple types of decks that it just gets rid of. getting your opponent to reach fatigue 1 card faster is the guaranteed benefit, but there are many things that can be burned that could help, like burning a removal which means it effectively saves a minion, or removing a damage spell that effectively "heals" your side, or destroying a minion means you effectively removed that minion, even with the bonus of not activating their death rattle.
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>>184394491
what class?
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>>184394491
no
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>>184394491
Mage or Paladin?
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>>184394467
Sure thing buddy. Go put it in your deck. Just don't blame anyone when you are unable to climb past rank 20
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>>184394367
yea no kidding
enjoy your 5 dust

>>184394467
>>184394547
>there are people in this general who literally think reshuffling their deck is a net benefit on average
how dumb are you guys? have you even finished high school math? do you think you have a better chance of winning a coin flip if you've lost a few ones in a row by any chance?
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>>184394584
Why is this so hard for people to grasp?
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>>184394672
Hunter
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>>184394717
I am proud.
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>>184394010
>shuffle
DESTROY
DESTROY
REMOVE FROM GAME

FUCKING HELL YOU PEOPLE ARE DUMB
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>>184394590
>>184394672
Hunter

>>184394717
What the fuck, you're not me. It was hunter though.
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>>184394584
>but there are many things that can be burned that could help, like burning a removal which means it effectively saves a minion, or removing a damage spell that effectively "heals" your side, or destroying a minion means you effectively removed that minion, even with the bonus of not activating their death rattle
you're retarded
because you have no control over which card it is it will be a good card and a bad card just as often
for every time you burn a valuable card you'll burn the useless card allowing them to draw the valuable card

>>184394707
you are retarded
pro-tip, don't reveal your double digit IQ if you want people to take your trip seriously

>>184394895
there is literally no difference if you don't reach fatigue retard
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>>184394914
Funny dude. I don't even understand the point of impersonating me in this occasion but ok.
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>>184395101
I swear on me mam I'll fucking nut in your eye, m8.
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>>184395062
>there is literally no difference if you don't reach
BUT
THERE
FUCKING
IS

OMG

Do you not run AoE in your control deck and just pretend it's at the bottom of your deck every game?
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>>184395062
>there is literally no difference if you don't reach fatigue retard


No there is a vast difference between shuffling a card in your deck and that card being destroyed. You can't tutor an ice block that's destroyed with mad scientist or arcanologist. You can't stall until you search for n'zoth if he burns up. This entirely changes the way you play. Conversely if burn someone's removal you can be more aggressive. There are no side effects to this card. 2/3 for 2 is fine. The effect is a net gain in every case except burning a novice engineer.
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>>184395264
I got that dude to say he was proud of you though
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>>184370910
Dirty rat.
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>>184395435
I'll nut in your eye romantically then.

P.S. this was the deck. Not that anyone cares, but I'm starved for attention and affection.
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>>184395062
no, you're assuming that if you don't burn something amazing that it's a waste. And yeah if you burn a golakka crawler when you aren't running any pirates or something then it was effectively a bad burn. But not burning a win condition doesn't mean you didn't do anything. Most decks aren't filled with unplayable garbage, you burn a spell thats a spell they cannot use, you burn a minion thats one they cannot play. Most decks run cards that almost every card is useful in some way against most match-ups, and yeah some cards aren't useful in some match-ups and are bad anyways but most cards in decks are useful in some way and therefore burning anyone of them is a good thing even if it's not an amazing burn.
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>>184395283
do you run prince malchezar in all your decks because getting 5 free legendaries is insane?
or do you realize that if you don't draw 5 extra cards to compensate you just make drawing your actually useful cards more difficult?
do you think running 3 flamestrikes in a 60 card deck is stronger than running 2 in a 30 card deck?

>>184395403
again the "benefits" you're listing are 100% equivalent to revealing the bottom card of your opponent's deck as long as you don't reach fatigue
with the small caveat of tutors which are very rare in this game
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>>184395763
>do you think running 3 flamestrikes in a 60 card deck is stronger than running 2 in a 30 card deck?

Do you think having 0% chance to draw flamestrike is better than having a 1/10 chance to draw a flamestrike? Because that's what you seem not to be getting.
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i made it to 2 wins in arena with shaman
t-this is also an accomplishment right..?
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you can't bring me back to standard
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>>184395062
> there is literally no difference
What is Joust?
What is Curator?
What is Arcanologist?
> b-b-b-b-but I pretend that is in the depths of the deck
Yeah... And I can pretend that you aren't retarded.
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>>184396120
yes my son, now go take your meds i'll be upstairs to tuck you in in a few
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>>184396120
Shaman can go for 5, it isn't fucking Druid.
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>>184395742
you fundamentally misunderstand the simple act of drawing a card, and consequently have no idea what you're talking about

for every time flamestrike was the top card of his deck it was the second card of his deck so you allowed him to topdeck it
for every time ice block was the top card of his deck it was the last card he drew before dying, which he could only draw because you removed one card in front of it for him

>>184395928
you fail to understand same principle

>>184396313
>joust, curator, ancient harbinger, arcanologist
only exceptions to this principle but they're only exceptions if it's your last minion/beast/dragon/murloc/10 drop/secret
otherwise the same principle applies where they just draw another card instead from their deck which has exactly the same chance of being good
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>>184396610
> if it's your last minion
What? Card burned is the next card, not the last one.
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>>184396610
I think you're misunderstanding what I mean though, I understand that thats how it works but I'm saying if most cards in a deck are useful in any respect then removing one of those cards is beneficial, it's one less useful thing your opponent can do which is beneficial to you.
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>>184395928
>for every time you burn a valuable card you'll burn the useless card allowing them to draw the valuable card
This. How are people not getting this?
It's such a fundamental and simple concept.
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>Blizzard actually trying to imply they don't generate top decks on the fly and there's actually a "deck order."

Why don't they just be honest and say "discard a random card from your opponents deck"?
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>>184397016
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>>184396957
show me the numbers on useful vs non-useful card in any given situation
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>>184397016
What if there is a card to see top card of your opponent's deck?
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>>184397216
it's basically "reveal a card in your opponent's deck; make that card their next random card draw"
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>>184396952
>Remove beneficial card form opponents deck fill of beneficial cards.
>Opponent proceeds to topdeck a beneficial card.
WOW THAT EFFECT SURE DID HAVE AN IMPACT, I SURE AM GOOD AT AND UNDERSTAND CARDGAMES!
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gnomish vampire
dirty rat
weasel tunneler

what else to annoy the shit out of your opponent?
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>>184397405
Sure, buddy. Let's see how you will play Jade Druid without Jade Idols instead of using other (((beneficial))) cards.
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>>184396892
>What? Card burned is the next card, not the last one.
there's no difference

>>184396952
> but I'm saying if most cards in a deck are useful in any respect then removing one of those cards is beneficial
and you're wrong
no ifs and buts, no "my opinion", no nothing, you're simply mathematically wrong
cards in your deck are useless, it's cards in your hand that matter
say you have a 2/20 chance of burning a good card
in 2/20 cases your opponent has a 1/19 chance to draw a good card next turn
in 18/20 cases your opponent has a 2/19 chance of drawing a good card next turn
do the math 2/20*1/19 + 18/20*2/19 = 2/20, odds are identical to doing nothing

>>184397181
generalize the above and there you have it
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>>184397538
beneath the grounds
iron juggernaut
priest
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>>184397538
Prison cards like this one. Secrets.
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>>184396610
>for every time flamestrike was the top card of his deck it was the second card of his deck so you allowed him to topdeck it

I get what you are saying, but you are still not getting it. Its more then just burning a card, it shows you a idea of what he has left in his deck.

Like lets say a mage has already used a fireball, and you play gnomewafiu and burn a fireball, now you know he has no more fireballs left in his deck. Since you can only have 2 of any card in a deck, burning just one card can be a very important move.

I mean if you ever watch pro games sometimes if the enemy has a Acolyte of Pain out the opponent will purposely damage it enough times where they will overdraw and burn a card.
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>>184397538
MCTech
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>>184397538
Memewalker Cho, Secrets in general
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>>184397405
calm down anon, I thought about it for a second, I just didn't see where the anon was coming from because of the wording.
>>184397639
yeah I see your point now, if you don't go to fatigue it's as if you the card is shuffled to the bottom of the deck, doesn't change anything since it had an equal chance as any other card to be there. Just took a little bit to click though I'm still gonna use it for fun
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>>184397639
that isn't math. The numbers used are meaningless as they ignore individual values of cards and how they impact the match up
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>>184397819
> it shows you a idea of what he has left in his deck
as I said many comments above, disregarding fatigue this is the only value the card offers
in most matchups this is minor since you're only seeing one card, compare it with Mind Vision or Thoughtsteal

>if the enemy has a Acolyte of Pain out the opponent will purposely damage it enough times where they will overdraw and burn a card
that's often the correct move because you actually deny them a draw if they already have 9 cards in hand and in a lot of matchups they know the game will be going to fatigue in which case burning a card (including with the waifu) is really good
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> removes ice block from you deck
heh, better luck next time mage
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>tfw climbed from 14-5 in a few hours

People who spent all month playing b t f o
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>>184398205
consider suicide

>>184398059
you get it bruh
same reason fel reaver is good in aggro and has no downside in many games and why prince malchezaar is unredeemable garbage in every conceivable deck
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>>184398386
All the decent players are already in legend
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>>184398409
> prince malchezaar is unredeemable garbage
Prince is okay in arena, his main problem is that card quality is too low. Imagine if legendaries are discounted for (5) for example.
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>>184398409
Consider real world application
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>>184397568
>Let's see how I will use confirmation bias to only rememberer the times it milled Jade Idol and forget the times when I lost for playing river croc in constructed.
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>packfiller
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>>184398724
It's a strong card
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>>184398724
win more card that doesn't win you the game
filler
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>>184392823
thank you based anon .
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>>184398724
Will be used as much as this one.
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>>184398840
>argust defender is a win more card
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>>184398610
in constructed he's *fundamentally* bad in every single deck except ultra-fatigue decks
there is no conceivable meta, card pool or time when that can change

the 30 best cards for your deck are already in your deck, by design
any cards not from your deck added to your deck just dilute the pool of the cards actually good enough to make it into your deck

arena is different since there you don't design your deck to perfection so the principle does not apply
with a stronger pool of legos he could conceivably become top tier in arena but by the very nature of card games he will always be one of the worst possible cards in the game in constructed, doomed to never be good enough for any deck (except ultra-fatigue decks)
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>>184398961
argus is a win more card, and because it gives taunt and attack, it activates eggs, forces unfavorable trades etc

argus is also used as a taunt giver for giants etc

the new card does neither of these things
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>>184398961
That shit also gives taunt and attack, and its 4 mana. You troll.
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>>184399106
What if he allowed you to shuffle 5 cards of your choice into your deck?
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>>184398724
is this the arena set

literally everything is just an arena card
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>>184399479
> neutral common
> not arena card
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>>184398724
imagine being a preorder fag right now, relentlessly and repeatedly btfo for a week straight
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>>184399479
they have to cater to kripp
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>>184398724

Pantry spider turn 4.
This turn 5.
Turn 6 divine spirit pantry spiders, inner fire inner fire
Two 10 10s by turn 6, dinosize -2 mana
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Trying to make it to legend with an aggro deck so I don't have to dick around for 20 minutes each game-

Token shaman:
>secret mage
>secret mage
>secret mage
>secret mage

Well okay, Pirate Warrior then:
>aggro druid
>aggro druid
>aggro druid

At some point I BM'd a Blizzard employee and that salty faggot blacklisted me to a bot queue that always counters me.
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>>184399405
in general that's also bad unless you're going for fatigue
in all card games the smaller your deck the better

in magic there is no technical upper limit on the size of your deck but the lower limit is 60 and every competitive deck ever runs exactly 60 cards
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>>184398343
>*creates 4 more*
Whoops
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>>184400000
whoa these digits
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>>184400000
> the lower limit is 60
What if there were no lower limit? Would people like just run one card, lmao.
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>>184400162
League of legends is a shit game and you should feel bad for playing it
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>>184400298
its the only game with lulu in it, so your statement is objectively false


this new common is thrash although a CERTAIN community think its a godsend, like with every card so far this expansion
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>>184400278
not him, but they would probably run the perfect win combo and only cards needed for it to work
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>devolving your evolved board doesn't get you the same minions.
shit game
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>>184400278
you need as many as you'll draw in a given game, anything more than that hurts you
in hearthstone something like 18-20 cards would probably be ideal
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> mill patches
> pirate warrior concedes
Warlock is fucking back, baby.
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So should I dust this legendary I have left over from last year to craft Fire Plumes Heart or wait for KOTFT?
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>>184400813
?
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>>184400940
if you don't need the dust right now then what's the rush bruh?
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>>184400940
after the steed fiasco i would dust every wild card i own
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>>184400940
Wait for king of fighters
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>>184401024
I already did, fuck playing wild
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>>184400940
WAIT DONT DUST ANYTHING YET. Wild cardswill be very important to get paladin arthas so wait to get that then dust the wild cards you own
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>>184400813
... so for that to work you'd need to go first, coin Gnomeferatu, and hope that their 1 in 25 cards left has that one legendary, that they'd otherwise draw and slam on the board with bloodsail buccaneer
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>>184398724
>people think this is pack filler
>not putting this in board centric decks to insulate vs aoe

It's a legitimately good card that I guarantee will see play in a non-mage midrange deck. Whether or not midrange decks will be good is an entirely different story.
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>>184401827
if argus isnt played this wont see play
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>>184401827
it's a weaker argus m8 it won't see play
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>>184401274
anon what's the matter? don't you want to watch people ruin their lives?
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>>184401024
>After they nerfed an irrelevant as fuck card that only came up in brawls, I overreacted!
Ok, dude. It's not like they're planning on launching increased support for wild or anything.
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>>184402102
its what it symbolises. Wild is secondary to us so you will get fucked in the future too
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>play gnome titty vampire
>discard an oponnent's key minion
>discard counts towards quest, which means:
>discarded enemy minion comes back with cruel dinomancer under your control for ultimate BM
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>>184402593
Remove =/= discard
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>almost zero interesting cards this expansion

Jesus christ thank god I didn't preorder before reveals started. For the much anticipated icecrown expansion, this seems to be extremely underwhelming
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>>184403509
watch them make Arthas shit. The reveal is today
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>>184403509
They keep doing this thing where they start with a cycle and then just go through with it no matter what. JtU had a bunch of cool cards because they didn't have retarded themes other than general archetypes. But we have three legendaries dedicated to "LOL REMEMBER RENO?"
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>>184370145
You can only have one quest in play at a time.
Who knows, maybe?
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>>184403664

>Battlecry: If your Hero has been replaced with a Death Knight Hero, fully heal your Hero.
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>>184403821
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>>184403821
I could see it be something Death Knight related, like a Justicar for Death Knights

>Battlecry: Replace your Death Knight hero power with a better one.
>Frost Liche Jaina: Deal 1 Damage. Summon a Water Elemental.
>Deathstalker Rexxar: Craft a custom zombeast. It costs (2) less.
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>>184403484
Wasn't it officially stated that it counts just as if it were YOU discarding a card? If it counts toward quest maybe it'll count for this too, I guess you could even "play" a discarded Fist of Jaraxxus or Silverware Golem this way, assuming it worked like that.
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>>184404047
how is jaina's hero power improved?
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>>184404086
Source? If the big titted gnome counts for your discard quest then she will be played 100% in every quest deck (not saying that the deck will be strong)
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>Culturally appropriates your deck
NIGGER PRIESTS WW@
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>>184405272
Grinder Priest is back on the menu.
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>>184405272
so this is only good if you go into fatigue...
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>>184405348
if fatigue decks ever come back they'll be quickly swept away by quest mage and jade druid
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>>184405468
k-bradwarden
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>>184405327

>Mind Control stole a minion from one side of the board to the other
>Entomb stole a minion from one side of the board and put it in your deck
>Now we're just taking the whole fucking deck

Also

>Benedictus wasn't the Old Gods legendary

For shame.
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>>184405272

Nice deck I THINK ILL TAKE IT
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>playing a 7 mana do nothing card in a game where turn 5 or 6 lethal vs aggro has been the standard for the past 2 years

'avin a giggle lads

queue pretentious priest players wasting their breath theorycrafting scenarios that only happen in the 10% of matchups on ladder
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>>184405272
>>184405327
this is fucking stupid. whether it turns out to be good or bad, it's just dumb.
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>>184405272
this should match really well against my infinite warrior cycle warrior
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>>184405272
>>184405327
>Warriors get dead man's hand
>Priests get this
Uhhhh Hearthtards?
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what did they mean by this
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>>184405272

Old Gods Legendary in Frozen Throne deck?

>Not Lady Deathwhisper
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>>184405327
>POWAH
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>>184406026
" "
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it's shit

next
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>This shit

I fucking hate this game and the people who made it
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>>184405272
>>184405327

By the time this comes out you'll get the dregs of someone's deck, maybe 5-10 cards. Priest gets another "what do you mean this is a shitty meme, excuse me I brows r/hearthstone and this is GREAT competitively" card a la volaj, Paletress, and Raza.
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so is this supposed to be a representation of what the average priest player wants
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So youre playing on ladder and this priest comes up and smacks your decks ass
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>>184406267
Paletress was good, though
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>>184405272
>>184405327
>its so good its like youre not even playing priest anymore
L O L
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>>184405327
>Just a copy
>It doesn't just outright steal your opponent's entire deck

Shit card.
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>>184405272
>straight fucking your draws

why? would you like a bunch of murlocs mixed with your deck? some pirates maybe? some tokens? this will only be useful when you have like 10 cards left or so, and your opponent'll probably have the same amount. It seems great for long controlly value-based matches, for everything else it'll just kill your strategy
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>>184398274
It's better than mind vision and thoughtsteal in that it tells you what he DOESN'T have in his deck, and thus what you DON'T have to play around
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>>184402471
No, cards that prevent more interesting cards from being made will be changed. That's how it's always been. If you're trying to make this some tribal "wild vs standard" "Standard gon fuk us mane dey killin us we wuz belchers n shyiiit firs dred steeeed see who next SAY HIS NAME ben brode dun care about us we expendable" thing, then you can fuck right off. Dread Steed didn't do anything interesting except enable infinite combos that are to easy to set up and draw the game. We lost nothing.
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>>184406325
rafaam isn't a priest
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THERE ARE LEGITIMATELY PEOPLE WHO THINK THE PRIEST LEGENDARY IS GOOD

THERE ARE PEOPLE IN THIS VERY GENERAL WHO THINK THAT
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>>184405272

brann, into archbishop ;^) Turn 10 plays.
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>>184406643
that's their garbage excuse to not code the game correctly. Could had just not respawn deadsteed until the effect ends
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>>184406707
how is it not good? it lets you play a deck from a not shit class
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Watch, now they're gonna make his Death Knight ability some dumb shit like "Reduce the cost of all non-Priest cards in your deck to (1)"
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>>184406496
I dunno man, but it's funny as shit. Freeze mage is definitely dead vs this card since the priest gets all your burn and glyphs.

Imagine getting this off the un'goro pack vs a priest who still has one in his deck. 3 hour games, here we come.
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Yogg daddy strikes again.
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>>184406707
It is a good card though. It's the meta that's terrible. The dev team never make any anti aggro cards so it's always 95% aggro ladder. If they did and it wasn't then you would be crying that this card was way too good for the control meta.
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>>184405189
You don't have to kill anything
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>>184406707
Those people are morons. It's only good match up is really slow control mirrors that go into fatigue. Entomb was only good because you could specifically take a high quality minion from your opponent and add it to your deck (and it acted as removal).

This legendary has no immediate effect on the board and steals you a bunch of average cards and maybe a few high quality cards. Meaning you'll get lots more weak draws after playing it.

It's not a good competitive card.
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>>184406707
nigga who the fuck cares its fun and meme as fuck
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>Steal a shitload of your opponent's cards
>Play Hemet next turn and blast all the shit cards away

MEME JESUS TAKE THE WHEEL
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>>184406707
Its not meta defining ya cunt, it just looks fun
Go back to learning to fly a broom
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>>184407193
Going to be doing this every single game now.
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>>184407193
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>>184407193
METABREAKING
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>>184405272
>>184405327
what the FUCK did team 5 mean by this
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I wonder if any other classes will be getting fatigue oriented cards like this priest lego and dead mans hand. Makes sense thematically its like they're undying decks that go on forever.
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???
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>>184408078
literally what
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>there's only 83 more cards for them to redeem themselves
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>>184408174

Looks like all their eggs are in the Lich King basket, so he better be a fucking earthshaking card.
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>>184408078
AYOO HOL UP
>thought steals from your deck
SO YOU BE SAYING
>cabal's your minion
HOL UP YOU BE SAYING
>copies your deck
WE WUZ PRIESTS N SHIT???
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>>184408078
It's real. Thank you Ben Brode.
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>>184408174
What is the last expansion /hsg/ actually liked? LoE? Naxx? Those were the best imo
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jesus the amount of shills on reddit at any one point is insane
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What would someone do this?

Reply to some shitty joke and then steal the shitty joke right after?
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>>184405272
> Steals your deck.
Wow!
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>>184408671
Go to bed @legit_jarraxxus no one cares he stole your shitty joke
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>>184408650

WOG.
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Times like these you really start to realize how many people in this general are redditors with their lips vacuum sealed to Brode's anus.
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>>184405272
> b-b-b-b-b-but I milled one card, I should win!
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>>184408831
I don't get the love for old gods. Old gods and meme streets made me quit the game for a while.
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>>184408671
t. Legt_Jaraxxus
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>>184408852
>people like a meme card
>wtf get off brodes dick!!!

People just wanna have fun anon. HS needs more meme cards/decks
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>>184409065
>hearthstone needs cards that will never be played because the game is intrinsically flawed on a basic level and this will be ignored in favor of strip-mining business practices, thanks Brode!
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Control meta incoming, guys. Why else would they print cards like this?
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>>184408936

The release of LoE and WOG so closely together encouraged slower deckbuilding when everyone was trying out the Old Gods and Reno decks. The game was actually fun for a few weeks because it wasn't an aggro shitpile.

Then some asshurt guy got Yogged too hard, made Aggro Shaman, and the game reverted to an aggro shitpile
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WTF THEY ACTUALLY STOLE A BUNCH OF OC FROM /HSG/ INCLUDING SOME OF WHICH I MADE

HOW DO WE SUE BLIZZARD??
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literally every expansion of every card game ever made people think the meta will slow down
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>>184409556
Not gonna to lie, I actually predicted this card when created entire random generated expansion a week ago.
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time to play pirates day 1
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>>184409272
Lifesteal ensures a control meta. It's the one mechanic that benefits early game defenders without doing the same for the attacker. Guess they just wanted to hold off ripping off MTG again, though god knows why considering how many times they've done it .
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>>184409756
what's your paypal buddy, I'm putting down $1000 against your "control meta" claim
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>>184409835
Pretty surprised you can manage to respond to posts with such poor reading comprehension.
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>>184409403
Yea this was why I hated old gods it killed off all aggro but one really strong one so it was literally play aggro shaman or play half hour grind fest's.
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>hemetdictus meme deck time

n i c e
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>preordercucks
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> turn 30 minutes games
> into 60 minutes game
Nice card blizzard!
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How does any deck that isn't control warrior, which doesn't exist because it gets demolished by everything else, beat freeze/secrets cancer?
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>>184405272
>>184405327
So this is what it looks like to go beyond stealing.
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>>184410397
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If you could revive one mechanic to see more use, which mechanic would it be?
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>>184405272
Ayo hol' up that deck look kinda nice nigga gimme dat.
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>>184410548

Inspire. It was a cool mechanic that some more support could have really brought into its own. It's a fucking crime that Inspire and >>>>>>Joust came out in the same expansion.
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>>184410397
Nice Ice block, you got here. :^)
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imagine if another class legendary is the reverse of archbishop
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>>184410705
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wheres my priest hate cards
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>>184408078
Pardon? That is fucking amazing.
While it's a 7 Mana 4/6 that effectively does nothing on its own turn, Priest can definitely afford it.
>You'd never play this versus Aggro, but Aggro would kill you or you'd kill them by turn 7 playing Priest anyway
>Control/Fatigue Mirrors, especially Druid, effectively mean you can use their deck better than they can
>Just take all a Mage's RNG for yourself
The only downside is it's a dead draw if it's near the bottom of your deck.
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>>184410630
But then the algorithms never match you against another secret deck again. How does one actually beat it?
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Giga niga priest time
I'm shaking
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>>184410745

Priest getting dumped on in every card set of 2016 wasn't enough?
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>>184410770
This is a terrible card in any situation that isn't "I don't care about winning but I want to see a dumb thing happen." It's unusable trash in every matchup, and I expect to see it in every deck for a month and then never again until it rotates.
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>>184405272
>>184405327
So what's next?

Shuffle your opponents card collection into your deck?
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>>184410930
No, shuffle your opponents secrets into your deck
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>>184410745
*makes a list of 4 attack minions*
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>>184410925
Are you retarded? It is a core card in fatigue priest that allows it to compete against dead man's hand warrior in future meta.
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>>184410930

Shuffle all cards in each player's hands, "discard pile" and board back into their decks. Set both Hero's health to 30.
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At first it was astupid fucking dragon taking my shit now I have to deal with my entire deck being taken?
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can't even begin to imagine the aggro shit they printed to counter all this control garbag
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>>184410925
I personally disagree. Priests versus any Constructed-level Deck can easily use just about anything from an enemy's deck. About the only situations where it's bad/useless are where/when it's Aggro or your opponent has all their key cards and tools in their hand/their deck is empty/near empty. Will it be auto-include? I don't know. Will it be fun? Yes.
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>>184411095
oh no he topdecked firefly that will stop my onslaugh of buffed garbage board
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>>184411123
needin aggro with jades
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>>184411123
"reduce a random enemy's health to 1, deal 15 damage to your hero"
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>>184411123
We're up to 52 cards shown. Only 83 more disappointments to go.
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>>184410930
Shuffle opponents game library into your account.
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>>184406852
I think they're pushing the WOAH! WHAT A CRAZY THING JUST HAPPENED!! thing just for twitch streamers and youtubers for this game to pick up momentum again.
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>>184410930
Trade decks with your opponent.
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>>184406496
>Priest
>Strategy different than winning with your opponents cards
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>>184411284
dont posting my waifu cunt and stop stealing my pics
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>>184410548
Inspire, it was a solid, creative mechanic that failed primarily due to having no decent support cards and the cards made for it being over-costed for what they did for the most part (with a few notable exceptions like that Shaman guy who buffed your totems). Also a lot of these cards were poorly designed because they were win-more snow-ball style cards (like the aforementioned totem buffing minion)

Ultimately I would have liked to see them make minions who were decently statted with inspire effects that weren't "kill this or die". Like a minion that could give itself Divine Shield or generates card value. Basically decent (not OP) non-snowball type effects on minions with good stats (rather than minions with terrible stats that live or die on whether or not their inspire effect is OP or not).
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>>184406852
>getting this off of an Un'Goro pack

I've got bad news for you
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>>184411178
>play it against jade
>get 5 jade cards
>try to catch up to the druid who's already 5 jades ahead of you and is drawing a ton with auctioneer
>play it against a shaman
>get your 6 cost thing from below because your hero power isn't totem
>get a bloodlust so you can play it on the one minion you have up
>play it against taunt warrior
>play your shitty taunts with no synergy while your opponent finishes his quest and shoots 8 damage ragballs at you
>play it against miracle rogue
>get a bunch of coins and preps so you can do nothing useful with them
wow such a good card
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>>184411516
Inspire is cancer. If it is strong, the card is removed or snowballs as fuck. When it is weak, not even worth to play. Compare to a good mechanic like the discover that balances itself and creates smarter games.
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>>184411548
Aw, fuck, you're right. We need Elise IceClimber or something for this set.
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>Paladins thought Tirion was safe

I'M GONNA TAKE HIM, TARIM, BOTH YOUR STONEHILLS, RAGNAROS, AND A TRUESILVER JUST BECAUSE FUCK YOU.
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>>184411028
not good enough i want this guy back
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>>184411626
>Elise the Throne-Claimer
>Shuffle a Frozen Throne into your deck
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When are we gonna get a real actual "Win the game" text card?
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>>184411438
Silence Priest and Lyra-Yogg priest don't steal cards barring potion of madness or the 3/3 stealie root thingy techs.

This is a WHOLE new level though...
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This card is yet another shieldbearer trap. The shitters think that adding cards, that don't synergize with their deck, to their deck is somehow a good thing. I imagine they would also created +50 card decks if they could, just because "well I have more answers so I will win more often".

The card is legit trash and will not see any competitive play.
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>>184411089
It's key in [nonexistent deck], especially when playing against [are you fucking serious nobody will run this]

>>184411178
It doesn't help against heavier control decks, and it's completely irrelevant against aggro decks. Realize that you're the same kind of person who was defending Raza only a single expansion ago. In a vacuum it might be decent, but it has no place in any current deck, will not create a deck on its own, and has an effect that's the epitome of win-more if not 'hamstring-self'.
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The Archbishop is funny, but you're bad and don't understand card games if you think it's good.
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> Archbishop Benedictus
> C'Thu
> Dead Man's Hand
> Death Knights
> Elise Starseeker
> Jade Idol
> Quests
> Prince Malchezaar
> Justicar Trueheart

Why blizzard hates it and designed trillion cards to kill this archetype?
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>>184412038
>I imagine they would also created +50 card decks if they could

wild priests would do this unironically
they are that type of person
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>>184412038
Garrosh?
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>>184412079
Justicar supports fatigue though
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I miss justicar. I miss her. Bring her back someone please
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>>184412038
> +50 card decks
Viable with enough pull from deck effects.
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>>184405272
Fun meme card I suppose. You're basically hoping to high roll with this card.
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I really enjoy that Blizzard decided to give great fatigue deck tools to Warrior and Priest to compete with Jade Druids.
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>>184412482
>competing as in diluting your deck to play a 1/1 jade on turn 15 while you die the next turn to their 12/12 and higher
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game can only improve with jade is rotated out
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SAVE MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>184412613
is it worse than mecha mage?
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Consider the following
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>>184412686
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>>184412513
>implying I'm not playing nigger priest
>imypling I won't be dropping a 5/5 jade followed by a 6/6 jade on turn 15 while I die the next turn to their 13/13
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>>184412643
>2 tirions
>30 damage from weapon attacks
>lightlord rng
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>>184412643

>Makes multiple videos decrying the "new player experience"
>Insults obviously new players on stream

Fuck him, the two faced prick.
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>>184412686
>power creeped explosive sheep
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>Stream finally get over 20k viewers since a while
>"Okay guys it's time to play Marvel Future Fight!!"

What did he mean by this?
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>>184412686
Why would you ever spend 2 mana on this?
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>>184412985
That marvel is paying him more than the viewers will make him.
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>>184412985

He's finally started valuing his own sanity over Hearthstone salt money.
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>>184413078
Marvel Future Fight is one of the most monotonous tasks anyone could possibly do though, the game almost plays itself if you just tap the screen without looking
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>>184412985
got to pay off ranias greek denbts somehow
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>>184412686
this would actually be pretty good in control decks. basically a slow, neutral volcanic potion.
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>>184413135
Sounds about right, a game as easy as arena
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what happened to the Kripp who played actual games. How can people even bother watching him playing this cashgrab mobile shit
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>>184413135

His shrived vegan mind doesn't allow for much higher computation and processing, hence why he has to restrict himself to child's games and use plug-ins and guides even for them
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>>184412686
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>>184412038

It's not for being competitive, it's for memes and fun
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>>184413245
we can go bigger
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>>184413275
Unfortunately there are a bunch of retards who think it's an actual good cards. The comments calling it unviable on hearthpwn get downvoted a bunch, and there are people calling it good here as well.
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>>184413487
> he thinks it is unviable in future control meta
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>>184413637
>implying control meta
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>>184413398
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>>184413637
The card only matters if you go to fatigue, and as long as strong late game win conditions in to form of n'zoth, warrior quest, freeze mage, etc exist, fatigue will never become an actual thing.
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>>184412686
so its sheep but i cant proc it with a whirlwind or ping it off...
hmmmmmmmmmmmmm
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>>184413873
nzoth warrior does not beat priest
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>>184413938
What fucking memeshit are you talking about? Some control paladin decks run n'zoth to get triple tirion. Good luck with that.
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>>184414083
thats the only nzoth deck thats viable
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Have you made sure to pray every day so you'll unpack Bolvar in your packs? You'll have to craft him otherwise, and if you don't, you won't be able to play the only tier 0 deck in the game.
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>>184414310
I will just steal your tier 0 deck with my legendary.
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>>184388495
>being good at any game with this much rng
Brode/10

Also, what website is that?
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>>184412887
Not power creep. You can't ping the 2/2, and sheep has the mech tribal, which means a lot.
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>>184405272
>play this plus new Hemet
>and lots of cheap card draw
>destroy your own deck when you draw them both
>play this for mirror mode

Neat
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>>184414598
it's reverse power creeped since being able to ping sheep was the only reason anyone ran it. But I guess KotFT is basically "reverse power creep: the expansion" at this point so it wouldn't surprise me
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Off to bed

Post me some Defias art since Blizzard would rather forget them
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>>184414310

>tfw when blizzard makes you into two shitty legendaries
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>>184409189
>intrinsically flawed
>I played a game I knew was intrinsically flawed and can never be good
>I'm still discussing a game that is intrinsically flawed and can never be good
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>>184414727

Also, Source since WoW TCG was the 'Titty Card Game;
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>expansion release time
>/hsg/s girl is watching anime

guess that explains how they keep fucking up card releases
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>>184414791
Anon, as an expert on all things, I KNOW that this extraordinarily successful game which has world wide renown is simply, basically, garbage! I do not see how it isn't apparent to you. You are either on blizzard's payroll to shill their game on an anonymous image board, in a general frequented by no more than 100 people, or simply a fool. This game is broken with no semblance of balance, trust me. I've worked on many games better balanced and more fun and skill based than hearthstone, and given the opportunity, I could fix hearthstone in a weekend! But, unfortunately, blizzard does not want a functional game, just money.
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>>184415014
Forgotten? We literally got a defias cleaner 2 expansions ago.
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The /hsg/ Approved Tier List has been updated.

Proceed to bicker amongst yourselves.
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>>184414727
Just give me a Vanessa hero for rogue instead of that elf bitch
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>>184415397
Add Benedictus to S
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>>184414310
literally the only decent legendary revealed so far. oh, and dr putricide too
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>>184415397
thanks for the laugh
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>>184415397
Gnome is S and G/U
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>>184409065
jesus christ
the absolute state of this general
shills in plain sight
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>>184415170
It doesn't matter if everything you said was true, you're the retard for still playing and/or discussing a game you know will never be good.
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>>184415170
>I could fix hearthstone in a weekend
>intrinsically flawed
choose one
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>>184415560
No, Gnomish Vampire is S Tier.

Gnomeferatu is garbage tier.
>>
A million flies can't be wrong, eat shit!
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>>184415397
>"2 mana: do nothing" and "River Crokolisk 2: Electric Bogaloo" on S tier

Never change /hsg/
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>he doesn't think the game is scripted
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>>184415904
t. TESL Marketing Team
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>>184415397
You gotta listen to me man. Bolvar will be SS tier.
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>>184415650
>>184415743
4chan can no longer recognize parody. Sad day.
>>
>>184415397

Nerubian Unraveler won't see much play. Its effect isn't as good as Loatheb's. It will only be seen when token shamans evolve doppelgangers.
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>>184415397
who the hell made this list? /hsg/ isn't this bad
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preorder fags utterly btfo
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>>184405272
>>>>>>>>dindu priest is real

no one will never have an excuse to defend priest being a good class
>>
hope warrior is good for once in the next expansion
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> add 20 cards to deck
> add 30 cards to deck
When do Blizzards stop giving so much power to Warriors and Priests?
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>>184416301
You haven't seen the warlock legendary, discard your opponent's hand and deck, 3 mana 3/4
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help
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>>184416351
hancho
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>>184416301
>not mage
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>>184416301
well, at least you posted a fitting character for your post
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>>184415959
>each game is scripted
>somehow only extremes happens
>super convoluted scenarios depending on your win, your deck composition, your opponents deck composition, the actual state of the match, etc. actually are scripted
It would take an incredible A.I. to do any of this shit. The servers alone would die of such colossal calculations. But nice tin-foiled hat.
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>>184416351
Don is good
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>>184416220
>class with both a tier 1 aggro and tier 1 control deck
>bad
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How much have you saved up for next expansion?

>inb4 I open 3 princes in 90 packs.
>>
BOLVAR IS THE BEST CARD IN THE SET WHY DON'T YOU GUYS BELIEVE ME
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>>184416351

I'd go with Wrathion since you don't have any draw
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>>184416516
enough for 10 packs then ill craft anything i need with my 12k dust
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>>184416625
>using dust for commons/rares
What a waste of dust.
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>>184416694
i obviously meant epics and legos anon come on
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>>184416560
>drafting draw just because you have no draw in arena
stupidest shit ever
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>>184416395
>>184416464
picked hancho, got wrath from a stonehill anyway
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>>184416776
10 packs isn't enough to get a decent amount of commons and rares, so unless you want to spend your dust on those, you'll have to buy more.
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>>184417139
well i have 10 now. Ill have 10 more by release
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>>184416516
5k
last time i saved i got 2 goyas, wrathion, noggenfogger and raza so im expecting my princes as well
>>
BASED MEMES
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>>184417031
another one
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>>184410630

Won at least 5 games as control mage because of this card
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>>184416516
7.5k

Will probably buy around 50 packs, and then some extra until I hit the pity timer.
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>How do we fix priest?
>How about we make priest players NOT use priest decks
Team 5 balancing.
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>>184416457
scripted maybe isnt the right word. manipulated or rigged is better
>incredible AI
not at all really, we already know that the game reads things such as health, cards on board or in hand, cards left in deck etc. there could quite easily be invisible card values that are also called on whenever a random effect is needed, and affected positively or negatively depending on whether you are on a win streak or about to hit a rank floor. this would be made even easier if there was a way that the majority of users had a code assigned to each deck they run... oh wait. in theory it would be simple to predetermine mulligan/cards drawn, as well as pack rarity contents (which was basically proven by the china fiasco anyway)
>colossal calculations
are you just stupid? how is any of the math involved in this game hard? its literally just basic addition and subtraction.
the question of why they would do this isnt even a question, it's simply to make the game more addictive and frustrating. if people lose because they suck they quit, but if they think it was out of their hand they want to go again. these people hired psychologists to make WoW more addictive and therefore profitable, remember.
it would explain what they spend all their time actually doing, precoding cards 3 expansions ahead
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>>184417631
If you're that gay for Anduin you could just go to Wild.
Reno Quest Priest is really good.
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I love the new priest legendary, will be tons of fun in a meme deck with that and Hemet: Jungle Hunter
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>>184418104
>Do it against any of the aggro decks (implying you can survive that long)
>Destroy every single card you added anhway
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>>184418428
If you're facing Aggro you've either lost or he's run out of steam by turn 7, it's irrelevant.
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>>184415397
the only correct placement on this list is razor in s.
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>>184416480
>he actually preordered
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Spikeriged Steed needs to be deleted from arena.
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>>184416480
>Taunt Warrior
>Tier 1
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>>184417560
etc
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>>184419086
Just act naturally.
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>>184419086

Just put mages, paladins and rogues in a separate bracket
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>>184405853
I don't know why blizzard keeps making these decks with infinite value, its like they hate control even though it has literally never been the top of the ladder meta.
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>>184419386
>>184419386
>>184419386

NEW THREAD
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>>184419086
Bonemare is a common neutral card. I hope you will enjoy it more than a rare class card.
>>
Blizzard is ruining shaman with the worst mechanic in the game
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