/vn/ - Game Edition

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First for best TM and best Imouto in any VN!

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>>184349012
Fucking nice.

Where. Is. The. Patch.

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^_^

>>184349206
You have a nice waifu, anon.

>>184349175
What patch?

>>184349318
You know which patch

>>184349358
Sorry, but the patch of my ass is sealed by my hair.

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Tenth update already.

Douzo, lads

>Ai: 44.58%
>Total: 32.8%

Next week we'll probably break the 50% wall, but there won't be a 50% patch.

That's all.

>>184349572
arrwegotyou gomenisay!

>>184349572
why does her eraser say homo?

>>184348816
I do as well. But you gotta admit, that cg is pretty hot.

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>wants Masaya to bring a small sash on the day they're supposed to do it for the first time
>says this
What did she mean?

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>>184349572
>another 1.5 months until release
this saddens me.

>>184349572
I want to study with Ai!

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>>184349716
>"Masaya-kun... Please... break me"
>"Please... make me yours..."
>"Tie my hands... with the sash"

MY DICK

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Anyone buying?

How many chapters do the routes in PE get? Because I want to move onto WHappiness asap.

>>184349572
If you translate the scribbles in that nootebook I'll invite you to a beer.

>>184350029
like 10

>>184350009
I never finished that game.

>>184350053
I hope you don't think there's actually something written there

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>>184350003

>>184350162
Are you trolling me? Can you see that she's writing her gang diary?

Only 12 more days, lads.
https://vndb.org/v12949
>Marina's Cuckolding Report: Sensitive Wife and Great Fuck College Student

>>184350626
/vn/ is ironic, but it is unrionically not that ironic to care about that even ironically

>>184350745
I'm unironically waiting for this.

>>184350626
>Sprite has no slit
Dropped.

>>184350626
Great, now when anyone ask about any VN it will be Please bang my wife and Marina's Cuckolding Rerport.

>>184350626
Why they don't translate and NTR with virgin and slutty schoolgirls like in Kademono (that was a nice ride)?

>>184349572
Thanks

>>184350964
Because people are tired of fucking school girls over and over again.

>>184351089
Noone gets tired of that amigo.

>>184351212
I do. I'm tired of it all. Give me a teacher, a nurse, an office lady, just not a fucking school girl for the millionth time.

>>184351089
What I'm getting tired is of redditors and these stupid coments.

>>184351295
How is that even related to reddit?

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me and my cats

>>184351267
We are talking about ntr, and with this genre we had only 1 game with a schoolgirl; the infamous Semen Inferno.

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>>184349572
I missed ya

>>184351402
Anything I don't like = from Reddit, obviously. how new4u

>>184351419
does cashew not have nipples

>>184351479
>>>/reddirt/

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>>184351295
>>184351402
This is the thing I don't get.
>Say you love older women
>Get called a normalfag, redditor, newfag and so on
>Say you love big tits
>Get called the same things again
>Say you love flat tits or lolis
>It's alright
>Say you love both types
>Get called a liar
It's not just /vn/ and it's been like this for years.

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>>184351267
Here, oneesan for you.

>>184351551
it's a nipple-free image, anon

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>>184351646
>getting this caught up on someone getting called a redditor

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Kei best girl

>>184351646
Who are you quoting? What is this reddit meme you are posting?

>>184351818
It's just that it always plays out like this, no matter the board.

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me and my cats

>>184351402
You wan an examp?

Redditor: we are tired... no on like... we don't like... this isn't a thread for porn games...
Our average shitposter: this is shit... fuck you... are you stupid?... please, die... go back to your mother belly...

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me and my cats

You now remember Cro

>>184352002

W-what are they staring at with those heart pupils

>>184352118
But I don't

>>184351652
Why is she so smug?

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>tfw no cats

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>>184352037
>go back to your mother belly...
hot

>>184352090
For when My Cat Slave is my Classmate?

>>184352165
Your wallet.

>>184352175
Because she knows I want to impregnate her and take responsibility by supporting her and raising children with her until we both die of old age.

>>184352216
Go back to your containment thread in /d/.

>>184351652
sauce me up on this shit, reverse isn't giving me anything

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>>184352175
Because she's going to tease you.

Is ashe the worst girl in wagamama?

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>>184352118
Kill me

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Any translated titles with romanceable blood related onee-sans?

>>184352373
https://vndb.org/v15639

>>184352002

I never got this anime meme that ear cleaning is some holy shit this feels good feeling. Ears aren't a prostate. Plus I would be scared as fuck with someone sticking a qtip down my ear because all they have to do is push an inch further down to deafen one of my ear

>>184352426
>3 onee-sans
hot

>>184352560
Hard mode:That aren't nukige?

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Kissu

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I love childhood friends
especially Sumika!

>>184352560
No. Maybe there's a couple of nukige, but that's pretty much it. Either start learning Japanese or just keep reading high school moeges.

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>>184352763
Yukino is the best

>>184352763
I want kissu

>>184352581
fucking nice

>>184352810
quof save me from this hell

>>184349572
Retard

>>184352810
Why won't anyone translate anything but high school moege?

>>184352947
Most people prefer younger women, I suppose.

>>184352581
>Artist: Hisasi
I know what I'm requesting in MG survey this year

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>>184352947
Damekoi is coming anon, get hype

>>184353015
But what if cakes are younger women to me?

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I LIKE LOLIS!

>>184353060
Joshiroku!

Reminder to not lewd azusa

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Just how many threadly ritual posters do we have?

>>184353425
28 right now

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>reading VN
>get to H-scene
>close VN

>>184352947
Popularity. High school girls are more popular than cakes and onee-sans usually. It's not just translators, but Jap people and devs mainly focus on younger girls as well. I mean just look at how many high school moege there are and compare them to moege that have cakes. Teachers and other adults are usually locked behind a fandisc where the routes are usually shorter than in the main game.

>>184353114
You're still shit out of luck. Seriously, the only option is to start learning Japanese

how the FUCK do japanese dictionaries work

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pat pat

>>184353425
I don't know but I'm fucking sick of this shit. Nobody's talking about reading things anymore, it's legitimately ~100 posts out of each thread that are regurgitated and another ~200 are about drama.

>>184351652
Voiced by Misonoo Mei, I assume.

>She is.

Would rather Berochu! for that. Either that or Zettai Junshu 2.

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we need more netori in VNs, i wanna see more girls suffering like Runa in her own route

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Not so hidden previous Madosoft titles

Sooo we are almost at the end of july. Where is the "full" version of Dies Irae?

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>>184353141

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>>184353571
they use radicals

>>184352908
I mentioned it before but I'm mainly into MILFs. Sorry lad.

>>184353393
>Deleted
but why?

>>184353706
Twins or all the character have the same stature and face?

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>>184352947
Because that's where the safest money is.

>>184353962
because it's nsfw i imagine

>>184354005
>money
Why aren't there any fan translations?

>>184353565
>Check "adult heroine" tag on vndb
>29 pages
>Check "student heroine" tag
>63 pages
Though I still have to wonder how many of them are nukiges or VNs that don't even have sexual content.

>>184352947
Because that's what most VNs are.

>>184353842
What the fuck is a radical

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>>184353535
>reading vn
>complete vn
>close vn
>repeat

>>184354064
Even the adult heroine tag isn't that useful, especially since lately all VNs state that the girls are 18+, even when they obviously aren't.

>>184353108
I want to fuck the ex wife.

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117th for Saber!

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>>184353535
>read VN
>indirect kissu or upskirt
>close VN

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>>184354214
So there's probably like 10-15 pages of actual adult heroines that aren't in nukiges and you can have sex with. Not to mention some of them can even be in fan discs and their routes be like 4 hours long. That's it, I'm ending it tonight.

>>184354179
kanjialive.com/214-traditional-kanji-radicals/

>>184354179
The part of a word that never change no matter the declinaison.

Damn it feels good enjoying healthy young girls and not busted old hags. I'm going to keep on living.

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>>184354421

>>184354062
e-peen maybe. Can't get popular if you translate unpopular stuff.

>>184354394
Japanese is the worst language

>>184354501
It really pissed me off how that only loli in Elf Youkoso turned into another titty monster. Biggest let down ever seeing "adult" Nol.

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>>184354501

>>184354498
I still read moege and other VNs with younger girls and I do enjoy them. It's just that I'd like more variety and I love cakes. It will sadly never happen, so I've come to accept it.

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>>184354421

>>184354625
I've seen worse. But I'm french

I love you, /vn/

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>>184354807

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>>184354625
何だと?!これで貴様の終わりだ!

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>>184354860

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>>184354990

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>>184354986

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>>184354632
Yea, it was a shame. Especially since Aoi draws bodies that don't have humongous tits really nicely.

Chobani

>>184354660
Why does she sit like that?

>>184354807
What?

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>>184355080
You better drop that pencil, Hans.

>>184355238
this pose always manages to make me diamonds, is there a name for it?

>>184354632
>>184355238
>This general is for the discussion of English-translated Japanese visual novels.
>All posting of untranslated visual novels belongs on >>>/jp/

What exactly is the VNDB criteria to consider if a VN? I noticed Princess Maker 4 and 5 along with Littlewitch Romanesque are on there, but not PM 1, 2, 3, or Long Live the Queen, for example.

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>>184355521
No clue, I'm afraid.

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>>184352763
>You will never simply embrace a girl like that

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W-Why did Yukino have porn?

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We haven't done this in a while

Post your NEVER EVERs

>>184354867
Y-Yes ma'am.

>>184356086
S-stop

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>>184355969
>I can even see nipple on the breasts

>>184355673
Do you feel in charge?

nekopara is shit

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>>184356086
This one's got a perfect storm of VAs for me.
Shame it'll probably never be translated in the next decade or so.

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>>184356086
I would post WA2 but that one's a given.

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>>184356086
>https://vndb.org/v21
Never ever.

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Even worst girl is still fun to engage with.

I dont know what it is about PE but its genuinely fun even if its drawn out. Honestly a good moege

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>>184356086

>>184355080
Is Monobeno really that good?

>>184356378
>this actually got a sequel

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>>184356086
tonakoi when ;_;

>>184356507
>dramatic lover triangle - 3.0
>hetare protagonist - 3.0
>betrayal - 3.0
>relationship problems - 2.7
I'm glad it's never getting a translation.

>>184356668
sure, if you're a pedophile

I like big tits

>>184356858
Is it bad?

Can a localizer thats not JAST please bring us more aLcot titles?

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>>184356086

>sex after right after confession
Is it the same for every route in Wagamama?

>>184356859
Come on Anon, you know I can't read that shit

>tfw convinced a friend to play dies irae
>have nothing to do so im watching him play through steam
i hope he's feeling pressured

>>184356973
It's one of Moonstone's better works. I really hated the main heroine though, except for the skin tight outfits she wears. The sequel just came out a couple days ago with more focus on Madoka.

All in all it's a bizarre mixture of chuunige, moege and plotge. The cast has superpowers and fights evil blah blah blah.

https://github.com/dsp2003/arc_conv is the correct place to get this tool right? Noticed it's flagged by a shitload of antivirus after compiling, assuming false positive but not sure why so many went aggro on it.

>>184357874
>chuunige
I just wanted this for the cute girls and the apparent horror elements. I hope the chuuni is low key.

>>184358363
>peaked

Fucking anger

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>>184356086
>Princess Maker except you're raising daughter/prostitutes
Literally my dream game. Learning moon partly for it and partly for the untranslated volumes of Kagaku Na Yatsura.

>>184357810
Some cringe ass shite

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>>184356086
I know this is going to get translated someday. SOMEDAY. I don't know when but it's going to happen SOMEDAY

https://vndb.org/v16068

>>184357874
>All in all it's a bizarre mixture of chuunige, moege and plotge. The cast has superpowers and fights evil
Just the way I like my VNs

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>>184357874
sounds exactly like ayakashibito.

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>>184356086
Unironically this now that the company has gone bankrupt and MG has fallen silent

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>>184358498

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>>184356086
More Eushully stuff, especially now that Aroduc is ded.

>>184359531
Yes to this so much, playing Kamidori recently has been the most fun I've had in years.
Yuela best, elftits worst.

>>184359226
I am pretty sure the company going bankrupt (it was the parent company not the VNs) has nothing to do with MG releasing it

>>184359861
>Yuela best
My nigga. At least as far as the 3 main heroines go.

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How is this?

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>>184356086
I just want to take care of lolis.
https://vndb.org/v813

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>>184360054
Game would be even more kamige if Aht and Sharty were main heroines.

>>184360328
I'd rather have Melodiana and Ragsmuena desu.

>>184360328
M U D P U S S Y

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>>184359531
Aroduc will never truly die. He'll simply slumber until it's time to reanimate once more.

>>184359906
I'll believe it when MG says something about it.

>>184360192
The game or the translation?

>>184359906
this is correct. Assuming MG has already negotiated the rights for a western release nothing involving the original rights holder can change it. (unless they're found out to not own the rights when they sold it to MG, which isn't the case).

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>>184359861
>mfw dragon escort missions

>>184352216
hey someone actually saved my image, you made my day anon

now cum inside of me

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>>184360442
Stop reminding me that Front Mission is dead as fuck.

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>MG releases Please Bang My Wife 2 Electric Cuckeroo before SukiSuki

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>>184360965
how about no?

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>>184360980
You've just gotta believe anon!

>>184360965
If he won't I will

>>184360965
>>184361324
>>184361420
Let me go after them.

>>184352763
>you will never have a cute childhood friend to kissu

What's the point of life?

>>184355969
He saw a what on the whats?

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>>184361658
S-stop.

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>so caught up in shitposting i made my food on the stove burn
guys i need help and you all have to stop enabling me

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>>184349572

>>184360192
Well, for an MT, the information that it's trying to convey seems be partly graspable if you pick the text apart a bit. It would be a bit better if you parsed the clauses individually.

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>>184361658
>>184361834

>>184362553
yuri is so gross

>>184361658
Just accept your reality and the fact that it will never get better, anon

>>184362360
no need to lie on the internet, anon

>>184362553
The things I would do to every single girl in this show, god damn

>>184362839
>people watching anime in my /vn/

>>184362937
I'm watching anime right now

>>184362553
gays not welcome

>>184362553
You can see it but my dick is in middle.

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>>184362440
Close enough to get the gist

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>>184362553

>>184363903
Why would he throw lotion at her?

>>184363896
>bichobicho

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>didn't even translate the card
Is... is this the power of official translations?

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>>184363896
Did I just read?

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>>184364062
>Why would he throw lotion at her?
And if it it was lube?

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Let's turn /vn/ into a pizzatopia!

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>>184364062
What if it was shampoo?

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Best girl. Best route.

>>184364168
How exactly does one go about throwing money at /ourguy/s? They translate only kamige like Hatsukoi, give us high quality translations and editing, including editing images, work at a fast pace, meme with us, hate redditors, but best of all, only deal with moege. I would sacrifice my first born son if it meant that I could make Irru and Trip happy for even a second.

>>184364871
this is a bad road to go down, anon

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>>184364871
>high quality editing

>>184364871
trip said in his last blog that he doesn't want to be paid for the work, since that adds obligations or whatever

>>184364871
>/ourguy/s
> hate redditors
Both are redditors and one even is a mod. Stop shitposting.

>>184364062
And why do you think that what she has in the face is lotion?
That guy could have used that lotion for his "mast" and with a few strokes he fired at her another substance.

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>>184364871
you could buy them doujin or make a cute picture.

>>184364871
>>184364952
>>184364995
>>184365001
>>184365057
>>184365273
we should buy them pizza pizza pizza pizza pizza pizza pizza pizza PIZZA

>>184365057
>one is even a mod
retard is retarded, being a mod on reddit is nothing special, especially since you can make yourself one if you please. he is a mod of two subs, one about the manga that he was on the fucking TL team for, and another for a vn. you should stop posting by offing yourself you absolute fucking autist.

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>>184365626
Why do you know so much about reddit?

>>184365626
That doesn't change the fact that they are from plebbit and certainly not /ourguys/. I was just pointing that out to the other guy.

>you absolute fucking autist.
Said the redditor lecturing others about his shitty forum on 4chan.

>>184365626
He still wanted to be a mod

>>184365626
But is he invited to the premiere VN discussing community reddit.com/r/vns ?

Let's keep talking about Reddit, guys.

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>>184365863
>he doesn't know his enemies
Anon knowing your enemies is intel 101. What're you going to do if they invade huh? You know nothing about the way they function and as a result you'll be overwhelmed! Just like when people challenge Rance to a fight.

>>184366140
>tfw probably 90% of you go on there
>even the guys that that talk shit about it

I like reddit

I use reddit

Let's not keep talking about Reddit, guys.

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>>184365626

>>184366236
>No I highly doubt thats true

favorite sub?

>>184366429
r/4chan

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>>184366429
/r/anime_irl

>>184366429
r/CarlShops/

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How will you go out, /vn/?

>>184366429
/r/watchpeopledie

>>184366372
>digg
How old is this image? Digg hasn't been relevant since something like 2010 when it imploded. Also OC on 4chan isn't really that common any more, especially in general threads which are full of thready doses.

>>184366632
I'll probably be taking a lot of hydrocodone and whatever else I can get my hands on, plus copious amounts of alcohol

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I just want to fall in love, get married, and have children

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>>184366632
Like so.

>>184365863
because despite what every newfag retard spouts on here, reddit is only shit in large normalfag communites, just like how every popular board on here is absolute cancer. i would rather browse /r/askreddit than /b/, /r9k/, /a/, or /pol/, because those are actually worse places than reddit. yet you autists vehemently act like every corner of reddit is an absolute shithole, while 4chan is most likely the site more popular for underaged retards who are generally the ones who end up shitting up websites.

if you actually want to talk about certain things, you can actually get shit done there cause it is far more organized than here. id rather search reddit for porn than here because it will cover literally anything and wont be shown to those not interested. i can talk about stuff i like like yugioh and all sorts of other shit there without every 3 posts being about best girl, or someone just trying to derail conversation. but im wrong about this all, cause "xd redditor!" your basis of reddit being shit can be applied right back to 4chan, cause you if you stick to what is most popular, both sites are cesspools of cancer.

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>>184366869

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>>184366869
Toastie roastie reddirt moisty

>someone brings up reddit
>thread explodes into shitposting on both sides
Do we really need to go through this every time?
Why aren't there more people posting about their experiences playing all the recent moege releases?

>>184366869
Anon you're supposed to pretend like you don't use reddit to fit in like the rest of us. Talking about it more just brings more unnecessary shitposting

>>184367240
Who are you quoting?

>>184323417
>look up site
>start reading the review
"oh my virgin eyes", English fourth language, "I played a nukige and oh my fucking god there's sex everywhere"

>>184356086
https://vndb.org/v12482

Never fucking ever.

>>184367260
I'm always amazed how you plebbitors think that others are just pretending to hate the shithole you came from. Fuck off.

Give ONE good reason why you don't use reddit

>>184366869
>Reddtors that Reddit this...
Why the mods can't ban the word Reddit from here like Steam did with 4chan?
Even a permaban could be a good thing for these fucktards whe can't stop posting about that shit.

>>184364168
>tfw actually understood the letter
Monobeno, here I come.

>>184367475
Who are you quoting?

>>184367475
Because then people will just say plebbit or any other variation. The filter filter failed in the past when it was active and it wouldn't work now.

>>184367475
didn't reddit use to be banned

people just said leddit or ribbit or whatever

I don't like any forum/comment system that operates off of upvotes, aside from the porn ones cause they're usually right

for actual discussion it's fucking gay and means you have to engage every single insular inbred community with its own highly specific language in order for any of them to acknowledge even the most low-level criticism

its gay imo

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>>184367658

>>184367536
>>184367308
>>>/jp/

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>>184367658
>engage every insular inbred community with its own highly specific language
So like 4chan right?

>>184367719
i'm almost a wizard, bitchboy... my virginity is as impervious as the great wall

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>>184367892

>>184367658
The main problem with the system is that it auto hides and buries the negatively voted stuff creating an echo chamber. I have seen people argue it's the same for 4chan with telling people to fuck off, but your post is never hidden by the site for having an opinion people don't agree with.

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>>184367536

> (You)
> (You)
> (You)
> (You)
> (You)

>>184367658
4chan is better for discussion since being anonymous makes people more direct with their opinions but yeah both sites have their problems so what's the point in fighting about who's better

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>>184368113

reddit vn went super active for two days with that post shitting on SP. Holy shit, did the mods move their asses hardcore to slide and hide that post.

>>184367658
Professional shill here and reddit is almost too easy to make money on

>>184368149
I don't think its a fight about who's better. Its a fight about redditors being annoying on 4chan.

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Stop talking about that place.

>>184368149
Point is about retards believing that one is actually better than the other when they are both good for specific things. I love the freedom here and how I can post anything I want, just like how I literally derailed the whole thread and you are forced to manually hide all my shit, while being unable to block me. I like to fish a lot, I have no idea if there is shit on /sp/ for that but you have to be actually autistic to think that the part of reddit about fucking fishing is "cancer". If I prefered talking about shit on reddit alone I would only use it, I don't even use /r/visualnovels cause it is was fucking overly moderated garbage, but don't apply that to every community that is small like /r/visualnovels is.

>>184368521
That looks like that bullying game that was brought up a couple threads ago.

>>184367841
>>184368009
yeah, every community is going to end up inbred as shit if nobody comes in for a while, but reddit's system actively cultivates that shit. here it's at least the direct fault of the community if it happens, whereas on reddit people don't even know what's going down

>>184368149
personally I just like 4chan cause if someone tries to draw me in to a conversation i've got no interest in having I can just move on and it doesn't matter, whereas on forums with usernames I usually have to go "haha, yeah man" or some other milquetoast bullshit, cause otherwise the boring shit will just go on even longer

>>184368521
This is the third time today I've seen a demotivational poster, what the hell

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>>184368223

Minatosoft is making me develop a fetish for strong girls.

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>>184368930
It's time.

>>184368930
Yeah its weird I have been seeing it a lot since summer started.

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>>184368930
here you go anon.

>>184368930
Memes never truly die even if they aren't as acceptable/good enough to post any more. I expect quite a few people still have old folders filled with old memes that they never really get a chance to post any more.
I lost mine when my HDD died a few years back.

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>>184369257
I don't have a single trollface anymore. It's depressing.

>>184369257
post longcat

>>184366542
Man, the girls in that show were savage. I bet they'd be great dick bullies.

doesnt reddit defend SP? isnt that reason enough alone to not use it?

>>184369546
no, the reddit mods defend SP, most of the users hate SP but they can't post about it without getting their stuff deleted by the mods.

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>>184369257
This is my favorite, sadly /a/ is pretty unbearable to me while being the place this is most likely relevant. Never got to use it.

>>184369546
I think it is the mods and some specific shills that defend it. When that link was posted here the other day there were quite a few people against them but they conveniently got deleted when I checked again after someone mentioned they went on lockdown over it.

>>184369681
Continue to stay out of /a/.

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>>184369257
>>184369443
>>184369681

holy hell can we get back on track

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>>184363896

Wagamama - odds
W Happiness - even

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>>184370423
enjoy

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>>184370423
Wagamama it is I guess.

>>184370504
Is there a recommended route order? I know it is a moege but it can still sometimes apply to them.

When is the next big moege release?
I want to know how long I've got to finish Wagamama and start W Happiness.

>>184370423
I'm so sorry anon.

Vice pres best girl

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>>184370423
I'm sorry anon.

>>184370718
no idea, but all the girls are good in the common route and so far the drama that has popped up ended up being resolved pretty quickly which is a great feeling after dealing with PE where that shit runs almost the entire route.

>mfw Mihiro is a semen demon
Her last h-scene made me ejaculate three days worth of cum
P.S
now that i'm done with Mihiro, who do you think i should do next

>>184370786
>>184370741
I can't be that bad, can it?

>>184370917
I guess I will just run to the first choice and see if anyone else chimes in and if no one does just pick who ever I feel like picking.

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>>184370423
Konomi... even.

>>184371092
They're memeing. Waga is pretty good.

>>184371119
Does she have h-scenes?

>>184371092
>sameface moege
>shit memes
>SP release
Please tell me you're not buying it at least

>>184371092
aside from the art being eh in a few places and the boob SIZE looking bad, it's pretty enjoyable.

>>184371253
Why would I buy it? I just had both download and couldn't decide which to start first.

>>184371140
>>184371367
I guess I will just find out myself.

>>184371367
>boob SIZE looking bad
>being gay

>>184371489
I fucking hate retards like this who immediately call people gay for not liking cowtits or otherwise incredibly disproportionate body parts on women.

Surely I'm not the only one, right? How many of you are there?

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>>184371417
>Why would I buy it?

>>184371598
>getting this triggered

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>>184370786
>saved the thumbnail
Here you go, anon. Now stop the newfaggotry

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>>184371367
The biggest offender is the teacher isn't in the main VN and will be in the fandisk that I will never be able to read.

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>>184371664
Yeah, when it happens every single fucking time for hundreds of threads on end I do get a bit triggered by it because it becomes commonplace to the point of tedium. I don't know about you but I don't want to live in an infinite echo chamber where the same unfunny bullshit gets worn out time and time again like it was somehow fresh the last five times. Is it that difficult to come up with something remotely new? Is it so challenging? It shouldn't be. Maybe you're happy with repeating the same threads forever though.