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YGO General #2561

The Prettiest Heroine Edition

Last Thread >>184130854

● YGOPro is an automated simulator.
>YGOPro (Windows): http://www.mediafire.com/file/nlcz47swc8bl4af/ygopro-1.033.D-Percy.exe
>YGOPro (Mac): http://www.mediafire.com/file/6vvclua195urlb9/ygopro-1.033.D-Percy.dmg
>YGOPro (Linux): https://github.com/cromerc/ygopro
>High Quality YGOPro Images: https://mega.nz/#F!3xRSSZLD!n5HAXjFTVV8g-ha3I_5SsA
>Manual Card Updates (place inside the expansions folder): https://github.com/Ygoproco/Live2017
>Information on 'Chinkpro' (Translated version of Mercury's YGOPRO hack):
https://pastebin.com/TpfzhqJd
● Duelingbook is a manual simulator
https://www.duelingbook.com/

Useful Links:
>Current Official Rulebook: http://www.yugioh-card.com/en/rulebook/SD_RuleBook_EN_V10.pdf
>Wiki with a wealth of information for the players: http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page
>Official /dng/ ruling test: https://testmoz.com/466984
>Hypergeometric Probability Calculator: http://yugioh.party/
>Yu-Gi-Oh! stock market: http://yugiohprices.com/

>OCG decklists:
http://blog.livedoor.jp/yugioh_tpr/
https://ocg.xpg.jp/v/deck/event.html
>TCG decklists:
http://yugiohtopdecks.com/decklists

>TCG/OCG news sites:
https://ygorganization.com/
http://blog.livedoor.jp/maxut/

Upcoming Sets:
●OCG: Deck Build Pack: Spirit Warriors (August 11st)
●OCG: Extra Pack 2017 (September 9th)
●OCG: Structure Deck R: Surge of Divine Radiance (September 23rd)
●OCG: Extreme Force (October 14th)

●TCG: Code of Duelist (August 4th)
●TCG: 2017 Mega-Tins (August 25th)
●TCG: Legendary Duelists (September 8th)
●TCG: Legendary Dragon Decks (October 6th)
●TCG: Circuit Break (October 20th)
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Ramesh got kicked out from his mom's apartment. He is couch surfing and sold most his collection and does not keep up with Yugioh. The guy is living a pretty miserable life. And yes his hair line has diminished even further. He has diabetes and high blood pressure.
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Second for new hand trap
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>>184320541
Who is he and why should I give a fuck?
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FOURTH FOR NOT SUBMITTING TO THE PAYWALL LMAO
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>>184321676
Epic, definitely didn't get obnoxious and annoying after the first 5 times
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>>184321916
Thanks I came up with it all by myself. Please credit me the creator with due honor and respect or my art. Thanks!
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>>184322041
No problem. Do you like my fanart of it?
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>>184322143
Wew it looks like shit. Please legitimately kill yourself new friend. Thanks!
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>>184322219
I don't plan on it any time soon, but I don't think anyone would mind if you did it first. Safe travels!
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>>184322275
Go watch adam corns gay porn you yugioh hipster.
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>>184321676
>Dead Game
Have local attendances dropped that hard due to Links?
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>>184320541
That sounds really sad but you could tell he looked pretty shady by those videos of him.

But it's not like YGO is a reliable source of income what with how Konami treated the secondary marker and playerbase even back then with Dino Rabbit being over $500 to play
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>>184323150
Some locals yes, others no. Until we get clear Regional/National numbers reports during the next few months, Dead Game is just a stale meme.
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>>184323150
The next YCS attendance rate will nosedive. Mark my words! OCG locals results already show the players starting to dwindle added with the fact they hate the new rules with a passion!
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>>184321916
>>184323150
t. Konami shills. You fags will eat anything Konami hands you, even if it means making Emergency Link monsters for World Premiers just so you can cream your pants for 2 seconds before realizing they are garbage and that you need to have Down Syndrome togive a FLIP based archetype a monster that can't even be switched to face down defense.
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>>184323357
Talking like this! Really makes you sound! Autistic!
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what the hell is a link? i come back to the thread and all i see is links suck and some guy called rata is trying to claim my fame?
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>>184323469
Why are you still here then?
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>>184323508
>Past 4 sets in Japan have been sales failures
Embarrassing!
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>>184323603
Trying to save as many players as possible. You can consider me Noah's Ark.
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>>184323654
This is why nobody takes you people seriously
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>>184323605
>Casuals decided to sit out of Zoodiacs and early Links since there was nothing interesting to play
Shocking!
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>>184323740
No one takes us seriously because we have to add some fat kike bitch on facebook for "official" rulings on our own damn game while the rest of the world has a database for it.
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>>184323914
Julia Hedberg is a sweet women. not a kike you heathen mongrel.
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>>184323854
>Zoo
Found the retard!
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>>184323991
Go to bed Iron Core.
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if the discord keeps raiding our threads, can't we just raid them back??
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not even 30 posts in and the atmosphere is rampant shitposting. What happened?
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>>184324001
>LAST 4 sets, which includes Raging Tempest and Maximum Crisis, aka Zoo
Are you sure anon?
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>>184324187
He didn't say main sets, you failed retard.
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>>184324120
The discord is shitty drama and the threads are shitposting garbage. Why would you even bother with either anymore.
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>>184324187
Make that 6 sets, and he probably meant the OCG sets: Code of the Duelist, Circuit Breaker, Collectors Pack 2017, and Duelist Pack Legendary Duelist. The Six Sam set and Extra Pack 2017 also look really bad. Extreme Force needs to introduce something really broken or this entire year would have been bad outside of Maximum Crisis in fucking JANUARY.
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>>184324291
This place is my home, and I have no other way to talk to rata or get advice from the tripfags that actually help.
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>Blockbacker on drident summon
I play a bad deck just for this shit.
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>>184324490
Rata doesn't even post here any more.
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>>184324291
The drama is literally only caused by one person though.
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>>184324490
I know you may be joking, but I wonder how many times will people need to point out that it's not Rata who's posting the "Rata here" comments.
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>>184324401
They better print this sucker
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>>184325014
>field spell
why not just make it a continuous
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>>184325338
Cause that's what Field Spells are nowadays anon, searchable Continuous
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Would you?
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>>184325587
Would I what?
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>>184325780
would
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>>184325780
yea
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Post the best waifu cards available, boys.
I just broke up with my waifu and need a new slut.
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>>184326449
you called?
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>>184326449
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>>184326449
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>want to play the game irl
>need to buy cards

PAYWALL
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>>184328103
At least you live in the online age where you can buy any card you want at any given time.
Imagine building decks back then when you actually had to buy booster packs.
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>>184328186
>implying Amazon isn't as old as Youtube

Also where could a child even get a credit card from? That's implying parents buy kids whatever they want especially since the Christians hated Japanese trends like YGO, Pokemon, Digimon, Beyblade etc.
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>>184323469

>getting this flustered because people don't like your unfunny garbage
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>>184323469
>even if it means making Emergency Link monsters for World Premiers just so you can cream your pants for 2 seconds before realizing they are garbage and that you need to have Down Syndrome togive a FLIP based archetype a monster that can't even be switched to face down defense.

To this day I still wonder what were they even thinking when they gave Subterrors a Link.

Do these people even know how they work or do they just think all they do is just lock the ED behind a wall?
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>>184328186

>card shops never sold singles
>the internet didn't exist when yugioh was released in america

underage detected
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>>184328653
>>184328873
>implying you where buying shit online when you where like 12 in 2004
>implying such a thing as niche as card shops even exist outside of america

Calm down, gramps, Are you fucking 30 or what?
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>>184329207
>living outside of America
How's being cucked treating you?
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>>184329418
>no negroes in my country
>no hispanics in my country
>free healthcare
I think it is gud living here
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>>184329418
Good, I guess. The 100 refugees or whatever that we accepted left in 2 months with the exception of a single old one.
Sometimes I love living in this old ass normalfag shithole.
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>>184328103
O N L I N E
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>>184326449
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Can I use Senet switch to move Extra deck monsters from the Extra monster zone to a normal one, or are they serprate?
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>>184326449
>a new slut
I gotchu
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>>184331792
Best Traptrix
And that's says a lot considering I hate spiders
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>>184331792
>Trypophobia
Get that shit out of here.
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>>184332353
>Trypophobia
how is that Trypophobia
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Konami JP is saying that there's tournament tier cards in the new duelist pack
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>>184331332
>The effect of "Senet Switch" moves the targeted monster to an adjacent unused Monster Zone on the left or right of the targeted monster. Therefore, it cannot be activated by targeting a monster in the Extra Monster Zone, and must be activated by targeting a monster in the Main Monster Zone.[2]
http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Card_Rulings:Senet_Switch
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>>184307268
you're a life saver, anon

does anyone have a good star grail decklist? it sounds like it'll be a decent pet deck
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>>184333498
KoA said that the new Gladiator Beast cards in Light's Revenge would let them compete with tournament level decks again, so I wouldn't hold my breath.
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>>184329207

>he didn't have the internet in 2004
>he doesn't even have game stores in his country

Poorfag third worlder detected.
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>>184333653
I mean, they technically weren't wrong. GB winrate went from 0% to 1% off the new combos.
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>>184334558
>Game store closed down in 2005
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here's a link to the ygopro link thing with the english patch included
https://mega.nz/#!qcwRFCAA!82uAZuNIXBJIH1EcTcUsTQ2-sjee2D62wP8PoJ62rf0

include it in the op next time
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>>184333498
Japs are pissed. They don't want Links infesting old archetypes. They like old characters getting support but don't want them getting Links. They're also arguing about DM getting too much support over the last few years. Pretty much every Japanese site expects Heroes to be in the pack.

Another thing to note. It's rumored that GX characters are being put in Duel Links in November which is when the pack comes out. Judai also has that statue coming out.
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>>184334817
i just realized someone posted it in the last thread.
i tried.
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>>184333653
>KoA
Ahh the same people who said Noble Knights and Yang Zings were good.

Unless KoJ says it themselves, don't even listen. KoJ hasn't lied to us yet.
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>>184329418
>>184334558
Holy shit burger faggots should just be nuked from the entire world for being worse than jews
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>>184334905
>It's rumored that GX characters are being put in Duel Links in November which is when the pack comes out. Judai also has that statue coming out.

Always take rumors with a grain of salt, shitposting has no language barrier.
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>>184334905
I would like GX support too. Didn't knew about them being pissed but I knew about the Judai statue. Anything else?
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>>184335338
Just a bunch of shitposting. Jokes about the Ghost Rare for the pack being either Axe Raider, Summoned Skull, Gaia or Two Headed King Rex because it's the strongest dinosaur.
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>>184326449
You're free to look but you can't touch
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If they put Heroes in Legend Duelists 2, is it gonna be Neos stuff, or are they actually gonna try and make something decent? Also wondering if they're gonna limit it to 4 new cards per theme again, that was really dumb.
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>>184332353
Are you retarded
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>>184336723
>crow in the background
kek
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>>184326449
holm ella
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>>184335143
>implying koj has never called a shitty archetype good to sell packs
good one
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>>184336540
Japs are split on what types of Hero cards. They want Neos but say Neos needs more than 4-6 cards to fix it. They really find it odd how Neos always gets skipped over.
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>>184334817
is there ai in this one?
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>>184334817
I didn't include it because the link changes every time they update it.
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>>184324542
>he thinks I cause the drama
>he doesn't realize that it's the other people in the Discord that drag that shit here
Nothing would make me happier than for people to never talk about me again here, but obviously that's not happening anytime soon because they get too much pleasure from circlejerking about me here and getting them (You)s.
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>>184337283
They can make the new cards fill the void the chrysallis where supposed to fill by being clones of the effects but not needing chrysallis or other gimmicky shit and a retrain of neos.
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>>184337067
When have they ever done that?
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I need some investment tips /dng/,yesterday my locals finally got the BLLR boxes,i've been planning on buying one and see if i can get profit but the price they where selling it made me back off a little,should i wait and get more money to buy maybe 2 boxes code of the duelist(it may come in a month or so) or just buy this set already?
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>>184341708
You should absolutely not be buying any post-MACR product, nor any of the product from the foreseeable future.
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>>184341708
wait for mega tins next year.
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>>184341708
>code of the duelist

what card is even worth it in there. firewall gets a reprint, ferret does jackshit as of right now, the other secrets and ultras are clickbait garbo. this is coming from someone who went to the sneak peak and pulled x2 firewall and a ferret.

reincarnation and spellbook are the only things even worth value in that set but not worth going out to buy 2 boxes for.
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Can Astrograph Sorcerer use Double Iris, Purple Poison, White Wing and Black Fang to summon Z-Arc?
You can banish this card you control, plus 4 monsters from your hand, field, and/or Graveyard (1 each with "Pendulum Dragon", "Xyz Dragon", "Synchro Dragon", and "Fusion Dragon" in their names); Special Summon 1 "Supreme King Z-ARC" from your Extra Deck. (This is treated as a Fusion Summon.)
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>>184343273
yeah, that's the whole point of the zarc magicians being treated as those monsters
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>>184343273
That's literally the point, dude.
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Are the official tiny Konami binders good? I only collect cards I like, so I don't need a huge one.
I have around 80 to 100 cards.
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>>184343273
Literally why they say they're treated as those monsters and their entire purpose
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>>184343465
barely enough
upgrade to their mid one and should be fine
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>>184343715
How much are those, 15 buck?
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>>184320363
Can someone explain as thoroughly as you deem appropriate what caused the shift from the /dng/ culture centralizing high levels of tripcode usage and repetition of memes like "thank you for saying literally" and mariomon bashing?

Not saying that the change was good or bad, just curious as to what made the general change so drastically.
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>>184344160
All those memes and most of the discussion in general migrated to the discord. This thread is for stragglers, newfags/shitposters, and as a dumping ground for the discord.
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Pend mages feel so strong in Percy's fantasy format. The otk potential and card advantage is great. The deck is also super consistent because everything is searchable. I'm going to miss its strength.
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>>184344583
6% in ocg my dude
inb4 gone this week
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>>184341926
>>184342519
i was under thinking since it get more links and new archetypes it would be an easy way of getting people at my locals to buy cores or the single links,but it is reasonable that they would just use they're old decks,so in the mean time the bllr is a good buy or is it just a ratios meme?.
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>>184345148
fuck that "under" shouln't be there
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>>184345148
if you don't have omega or CWD yet and want minerva
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>>184343373
>>184343404
>>184343479
But they don't have "Pendulum Dragon", "Xyz Dragon", "Synchro Dragon", and "Fusion Dragon" in their names
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>>184345471
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>>184344821
>6%
That's just about Tier 2 at least.
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can someone explain all the hype around this card? i've heard there's loops but i don't understand how you could do any with this
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wew lad
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>>184345471
is this bait?
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>tired of konami's shit
>don't want to move to magic because i hate the mana system
>stuck here because it's the only card game i wanna play
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>>184346972
Just stop playing card games. I blow all my money on shitty mobile games now.
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>>184347079
Jesus man, at least card games have pretty pictures.
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>>184346229
People really dont like that you have the 500 LP cost and are calling it a paywall. I agree, not all of us can afford 500 LP!
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>>184346972
As someone who likes both magic and yugioh I can wholeheartedly say that you can dabble in both
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>>184347379
He hates the mana system so no he can't.
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>>184347156
Plenty of waifus in FEH and FGO
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>>184347379

Nah man. I sometimes play limited online, and holy shit I cannot deal with mana screw. Once percy gets links I don't think i'm gonna go back.
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>>184347669
>I cannot deal with mana screw
Play Duel Masters. WotC already admitted it's just Magic 2.0. No mana screw because no lands, instead any card can be played as a land of its own color.
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>10 year hiatus from the game IRL
>keep up with the game with DN in 2011 and YGOPro when it's released though
>get back into IRL yugioh today
>$100 budget, make a deck
>don't expect to win a single game, but want to gain experience of playing people IRL to cure my social anxiety
>literally go undefeated against meta decks
>whatthefuck.jpg

Either I'm good, got lucky or have a shitty locals. But this is the only place in my city with Yugioh tournaments and I want to get better to top regionals and eventually compete at nationals. Should I continue going to local tournaments?
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>>184347227
ah, that makes sense now! pyro decks are gonna be tier 0 when this drops, what was konami thinking?
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>>184347942
Too bad it doesn't exist outside of Japan.
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>>184348002
What deck were you using?
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>>184348559
ABC with Cockadoodledoo
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>>184348002

What decks specifically did you face and what were you playing?
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>>184348679
2 Zoo deck players and 2 Draco with Zoo players. Apparently they faced non-meta in their previous matches like Stall and Blackwings.
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>>184348116
Konami wanted to turn up the heat
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>>184347662
Erh, physical pretty pictures is what I meant to say, that can hence be re-sold if one wishes to.
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>>184348659
Post build senpai, I'm trying to remake ABC as well.
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>>184348659
I win 90 percent of my locals with a similar build. Its a VERY good deck anon
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>>184349098

Well shit, guess they were just bad players. Rogue decks like ABC can catch bad players off guard, because they think they automatically win by having the better deck. Keep going to locals, it's good practice anyway.
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>>184349367
Its not a Rogue deck in link format. It tops in OCG.
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>>184349730
Isn't that basically only true once Proxy Dragon comes out though? Also that Destrudo monster from Circuit break seems to help them a lot.
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>>184349898
That chicken card helps them just as well though. Deck gets stronger with Proxy Dragon sure but it can still make solid plays.
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>>184349898
It vaguely topped before CIBR, but Destrudo really pushed the deck toward being a meta threat. The only reason it doesn't take more tops is because True Draco and Dinos are suffocating the meta as usual.
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>>184349898
Can I ask how Proxy Dragon helps?
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>>184350110
>any 3 monsters
>get anything alongside a C which a B attached to it
>make Proxy
>unlike with Tsukiyomi, you get B AND C triggers
>then make Decode, get ANOTHER trigger, as well as 2 places for ED monsters, and Decode protection
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>>184350325
Okay I see now. Do they still run Tsukiyomi?
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>>184350431
Depends, I personally run it since TCG still has Gofu at 3, which makes T1 Tsukiyomi + Buster via Decode very possible and helpful sometimes.
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>>184350603
Man thats a good point
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Yo niggas, what vandread do. How play?
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>>184352031
Wait for the next wave or two of support.
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>>184352031
Step 1
Get little zombie lads stacked up into big zombie boy
Step 2
Big Zombie boy has bonus effects
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>>184325014
>fire prison has a huge ass visual effect, obviously because of how important it is to the duel
>revolve boot sector and cybnet universe have no visual effects at all, despite being field spells
One job, Vrains.
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>>184352315
>being surprised by this
Trickstar Lightstage didn't have any visual effects either.
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>>184352031
Remember BLS Super Soldier?
Imagine if it had actual support.
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Any suggestions to improve my deck?
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>>184344583
>running more than 1 white rabbit
>Leo Dancer on field but you're not below 1000 LP
>IGNEESTER on board
>No Wolf in sight
That player is not worthy of playing with my kitties
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>>184354374
drop zoo for gouki
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>>184354386
>IGNEESTER
Where did this meme come from
I've been seeing it for years but I have no clue what started it
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>>184354780
dpYGO memes
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>>184354780
https://youtu.be/fj-6lIYSiGI 0:48
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Let's say you're going first and you have no idea what your opponent is playing. Your deck is built around getting a Turn 1 Rank 9 play.

Do you go into VFD for the easy play, or risk an Enterblathnir and hope you hit something good out of their hand?

If it's the former, do you call something during their standby phase, or do you risk letting your opponent get an on-summon effect off for a more efficient play? If the former, what do you call? Earth? Dark?
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>>184355881
V.F.D. is the better turn 1 play, Enterblathnir works better as a turn 2/3 option and its best to call Earth because zoos
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>>184354653
post dick
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>>184356007
That's exactly what I normally do, but I'm always tempted to just get the shitty Trishula on the board.
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Did we get an zombie link by any chance? Haven't had a chance to look yet.
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Speaking of Zombie stuff related to new mechanics, why did they never expand on P.M. Captor? I'm pretty sure it's the only Zombie Pendulum.
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>>184357151
>tfw no zombie pendulum archetype that fucks with the grave and can then pend summon from there
sad
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>>184356371
just play dinos and get the real trishula first, then decide after seeing what you banished...
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>>184320363
QT
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After playing Duel Links my desire to get into the actual card game has skyrocketed. I know that duel links is super basic and doesn't cover half of what's available, but still.
Are there budget Dark Magician decks that I could assemble for 100-200 bucks and upgrade from there if I like it? I'm no stranger to tcgs, just to ygo.
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>>184359454
>Dark Magician
go with Dinos
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>>184359695
I don't want to though.
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>>184359454
You can easily fully build literally any deck other than True King/Zoo for under $100. The card game's ridiculously cheap right now for non-meta, and even meta's pretty affordable compared to $200 Dracossack or Teledad format a decade ago.

Dark Magician is a meme/shitter deck because all the genwunner nostalgiafags build it, but it's not the absolute worst. People will meme about Eternal Soul but it's really not a problem.

Before you build anything, download YGOPro and play a few matches to see if it's worth dropping money on. Try out other decks, too. You might find something fun.
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>>184359454
join the discord https://discord.gg/UtR545T
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Can we imagine for a second a world where lavalval chain exists in link format?
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>>184359454
dark magician isn't really recommended, there's much better decks you could build for that budget. i'd try testing it on ygopro like >>184359860 said and if you really like it then go ahead
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>>184360264
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>>184359860
The problem is thanks to links pretty much everything that isn't True King/Zoo basically has no chance of winning since they got fucked the least/don't care about the rule changes whereas pretty much every petdeck does.

Once they get killed by the eventual banlist then non meta shit can have a chance and even though it's just the old meta coming back (ABCs, D/D/Ds etc) at least there's more variety than just Zoos and Dracos every fucking time.
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>>184360264
>Being able to play lavalval chain while also having Omega available
UNCHAIN THE CHAIN
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>>184360756
This isn't the the first Tier 0 or concise Tier 1 format in the game's history, though.

And in previous iterations, prices have been ridiculously higher. I mean, isn't Diagram the most expensive card right now? And it's only $40. Ash Blossoms are $40, Barrage is down to $12, I can go on.

Meanwhile in DRAGONS format we had rares selling for $20 and Dracossack was fucking $200. And you needed playsets of all those.
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>>184361227
My point isn't that the game as a whole isn't cheaper to play as it clearly currently is. My point is that it's pretty much pointless to play or even buy non meta currently unless the people who you're playing against are doing the same otherwise you're going to get rolled every time unless you completely lucksack them.

Once Dracos/Zoos get hit then there is a chance for more variation assuming Jewnami doesn't shit out another tier 0 archetype in the meantime. However while links are as necessary to use your ED as they are and when basically all the petdecks need their ED to play because they were designed that way then it will still be a struggle for them until better links/link enablers get printed.
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>>184348659
Do feel free to post, just found my doodles-
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>>184361931
The thing is, petdecks have always lost. That's why they're petdecks and not meta.

And before the pack change, petdecks were way more expensive. I remember shying away from building Koa'ki Meirus because the deck core alone would run me almost $80, and this was BEFORE Iron Core was announced. Yang Zing on launch would push $100 off Paths alone. If your petdeck had a super rare or high, you were expected to pay $20+ for each card, which is the price for Secret Rare meta staples nowadays.

And this was for decks that had zero chance of topping. MR4 and Links have nothing to do with it. Unplayable cards were expensive in the past, and now they're absolutely not expensive despite zero change in playability.
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>>184360567
>>184359860
I'll check it out, thank you. I admit that Dark Magician is definitely nostalgic,but their tribal support seems pretty fun even if it's not effective. I'll definitely try out some other decks though to be sure about anything

>>184359962
I'll be sure to!
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>>184362938
at least we've gotten playable supers and commons in the recent years, expecting an archetype of commons and rares to even get splashed into a meta or rogue deck in the past was impossible.
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>>184361931

It's always been like that. You were never able to top a ycs with your pet deck.
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So I got this D/D/D core at locals today, can anyone hit me up with some tips and pointers on how to play the deck when High Executive Ghengis dtops?
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>>184363554
It's not about topping ycs, it's about having a reasonable chance against the deck without getting their plays disrupted during their turn (either by a monster/spell or monster/trap immune beatstick or by an easily shat out R4) and being completely fucked with no means of recovery. Why do you think Kirin got nuked by the list even though only metalfoes decks got the most out of him.

And before you go 'but there was always disruption, what about when bottomless/solemn judgment were at 3' I'd note that the game was a lot slower at that point with way less draw power and even the faster decks relied on shit like gold sarcophagus to search out the pieces it needed. That means that yeah your play got stopped but that doesn't mean the opponent can then OTK you the next turn because of it like the game at the moment. In short, the current meta allows no room for error and can easily cripple basically everything by interfering way too much during the opponent's turn only to nuke them straight after.
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>>184364548
You really need to drop the rose tinted glasses
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>>184365321
>It's rose tinted to note that the game was a lot slower most of the time so disruption didn't matter as much
There were always some exceptions but most of them could still be beaten by non meta. Hell even the pendulum era when PePe wasn't king there were still ways for non-meta to do well (to the point where things like RR/Fluffals even managed to top at some point). Now however whenever you do something it's just 'Master peace eff :^)' or 'Drident eff :^)', both of which are very easy to get out quickly and can singlehandedly shut down an opponent's plays. You can't even use common outs like the lightning since the moment you drop it on the board 'Master peace/drident eff :^)' shuts it down completely. And that's ignoring any potential backrow (such as one of three solemn strikes) sat there just in case you do manage to get something that outs it onto the board.
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>>184365321
Not him but he has a point, the game has had numerous times when you could do well even at higher-tier events with not-Tier-1 decks. Look at Negroz format, memeshit topped all the time. But Zoo and TD just snuff out everything since Zoo's plays are all 1-card and hence the rest of their deck is various forms of stun (either handtraps or backrow) which just completely kills other decks because they can't compete with a deck that can set 4 and still make their boss monster T1. And TD are anti-meta "all of your usual shit doesn't hurt me" except instead of it dying to Denko or End Phase double-twin-twisters, now it shits out a mini-Towers with quick-effect removal that pops your shit while summoning itself on YOUR turn. The game is in a horrible, horrible state, where, like EMEm and DRulers, the best deck isn't just the best deck, it's a deck so everpresent and oppressive that those are the ONLY decks you see. Even the shitters can play budget Zoo, or just play Dinos (who are still chock full of 1-card plays because of Oviraptor and UCT).
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i miss chain burn bros...
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>>184324536
>>184324889
rata here
>>184344160
The /dng/ thread is the proving ground to recruit the best kind of posters. Invites are only sent to the chosen anons. You obviously do not qualify because your third eye of posting is calcified.
>>184346229
Very nice meme.
>>184367631
fuck off iron core not even discord wants you
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>>184367631
I miss shitting on people with Chain Burn, but I'm taking a break from it so people at my locals don't start to dislike me more than they already do. Though if Zoo and TD aren't ded with the next banlist I'll be back at it.
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>>184367631
don't worry iron core i will play with you don't let them bully you.
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>>184367631
Legit question: If Sandaion the Timelord was released but they made to do no battle damage (it has 4000 ATK) and nerfed its effect damage to 2000, would it be good to play in a burn deck like Chain Burn?
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>pick up new deck on ygopro
>open god tier every game, win a lot
>decide to play tomorrow
>open up complete shit, always lose
every fucking time
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>>184368567
Wait which Timelord are you even referring to? One of the unreleased ones?
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>>184360264
You stupid fucking faggot, Chain is the balanced one.

Emeral is the problem.
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>>184341531
Dark Magician in Link format was a thing.
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>>184368684
Yes, Sandaion has not been printed yet. Also those two nerfs were applied to Sandaion in a video game where they Timelords are playable, so that might be what they do to it if it does get printed.
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>>184368707
>>184360264

Lavalval Chain should have "You can only use this effect once per turn" clause to prevent loops. With the current link card pool it is considerably fair rank 4, no more infernity spam.
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Why isnt (non percy) Devpro used anymore?
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>>184366228

Like it's any different from laggia :^) or blaster :^) or even fucking ter :^). They're called petdecks for a reason.
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>>184370063
It's slow as fuck.
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>>184370063
they fucked up their client. takes forever to find a game and their interface is completely shit. Why they use multiple windows to edit decks/battle/find matches is the most retarded design ever. Ygopro clitches for the most is an imaginary form but the simple interface and fast games makes it superior.
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>>184370075
>laggia
>blaster
'there were some exceptions'
>TER
could still be outed by any form of removal, even shit like fissure and smashing ground could easily out it, both were out when goats was a thing and both were at 3.
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>>184356519
p-post latest chapter link
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>>184370075
that meme face is fucking annoying quit doing that shit faggot
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>>184371386
http://galaxyeyedphoton.tumblr.com/post/163370344096/yu-gi-oh-arc-v-scale-24-the-reason-theyre-after
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>>184326449
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>>184326449
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is gravity bind worth running alongside barrier statues?
it seems like most monsters that people run that are lower than 4 have basically no atk and can't run over the statue anyway, but maybe i'm just being stupid and gay
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>>184372736
no, it's way to easy to out
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>>184372984
right, fair enough
what backrow should i be running if i want to protect them besides the obvious solemns?
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>>184360264
>Revendread's with access to Chain
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>>184373172
phantom wings/blade. attack boost but also board wipe protection.
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>>184371237

Every fucking format has t1 decks. It's not the exception, it's the rule.
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>>184373383
fog blade? that seems a bit counterproductive honestly. wouldn't sword be generally better?
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>>184363556
1. draw into your 4 card combo
2. make a bunch of synchros so they'll be in the grave for later
3. make a shitty link 3 that gives your opponent a free zone
4. vomit your whole hand onto the field and summon shit from the grave
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>>184373923
Pretty sure that's what he meant.
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>>184325587
Would i?
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>>184374442
I would as well.
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>>184357635
>scale 0 zombie pendulum
>swarming the field with 4k+ kings and lady in wights
>reusing wightprinces for xyz detachment
if only
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>>184371702
thanks, are u alice is finished?
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what are some awesome cards?
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>>184377078
Searches Kaijus and lets you actually use their effects. It makes you think twice about giving your opponent Gameciel though.
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>>184377393
>field spell that represents the part of Tokyo that always gets demolished by kaijus
>but has one of the best self-protecting effects of any Spell in the game
What did they mean by this?
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>>184378198
>always
You mean more than once? Think.
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>>184378198
The city isn't totally defenseless
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>>184377393
Retard here. How are you supposed to use the counters?

What I mean is, half the Kaiju have quick effects. If you give your opponent a Gameciel, Gadarla, or Kumongous, they'll just use your counters on you and fuck you over. The other Kaiju have much higher ATK, so if you give them those, chances are you can't run it over. The only solution I can think of is Capture Mission, but Gameciel stops that too.

And things get even more confusing when you can only control one at a time. Gameciel honestly seems like shit in the context of pure Kaiju.

How do pure Kaiju work?
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>>184375131
No, this isn't the real text. Probably.
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>>184379848
Drag back at it again with the good taste.
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I have no outs to shitposting.
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>>184379912
mcfucking kill yourself witht that shitty meme daniel
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>>184379523
To get the most out of Gameciel you typically run other things with it, like Grand Mole and Fairy Tail Luna to get rid of your opponent's Kaiju. The Kaiju Files also works by swapping your opponent's Kaiju for a defense position Dogoran or Thunder King which Gameciel can attack over. Jizukiru is pretty good to sit on though with 3300 ATK and a powerful anti-targeting effect. But yeah you will need to run some other stuff because otherwise the deck will be too slow just sitting on 1 Kaiju.
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>>184379523
Almost the time you use Jizukiru as your main Kaiju and give shit like Radian or Dogoran to your opponent because they can't activate effects in your turn, then you destroy them by battle or return them to your hand with some effect.

You can try using Thunder King for OTKs too.
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Any Vendread decks so far?
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>>184380992
im playing 60 card grass vendread zombiesworn
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Rare erects
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Is 35 for a Firewall Dragon decent?
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>>184386254
It's going for around $40 right now so that's pretty decent, then again you could wait another week for prices to go lower
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>>184386254
for selling? yeah that's great. for buying? fuck no he's only good in meme decks
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>>184386254
i have not seen a single firewall dragon in any decks that top seems like a shitty link thats overhyped
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>>184386737
>overhyped
>when /dng/ filled with people thrashing it because it not only targets, but also "Once while face-up on the field"
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What is your honest opinion on HEROes?
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>>184387338
Cool deck that gets fucked over by Links
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>>184387161
>dng is representative of everyone who plays yugioh
The dozens of "TOTALLY BROKEN FIREWALL FTK LOOP" youtube videos say otherwise.
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>>184386364
>>184386468
>>184386737
Thank you all for showing me how retarded I was being. I'll wait for it to drop in price 3-4 weeks after the set officially drops
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Why is it that Arasuda can't summon himself when Hiruko banishes himself?
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>links and mr4 killed synchro
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tscfwwLImg4

lol
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>>184387583
>yugituber is representative of everyone who play yugioh
Yeah, yeah.
Grandsoil is also freaking overhyped and still is then.
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>>184387338
extremely boring even by helmet deck standards
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>>184387742
In the scale it counts a spell so Arasuda "sees" it as a spell on your field being banished instead of a monster on your side of your field
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>>184387859
All decks are boring though, helmet or not
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>>184388121
This is true if you play MTG, that's why that game is dead
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>>184354386
I know this was 6 hours ago but this wasn't leaving ignister on board I just summoned him to clear out leo dancer and then I otked him. My turn 1 was omega plus rank4 mage plus a double iris and his turn 2 was leo dancer
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who the fuck thought this card was a good idea?
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>>184387786
Links killed all of Yugioh you retard.
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>he watches Yugitubers
How does it feel being a cuck who wastes his time watching others do something you enjoy instead of doing it yourself?
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>>184354386
fuck off soundwave. ill behead your kittens too you furshitter
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>>184388083
I figured that was the reason. Shame, would have been nice to use that alongside Hirume for more power. Thanks for the help.
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>>184388515
>not making the videos yourself
rata here
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>>184388693
False! This guy is baiting. I am the real rata
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>>184388930
>>184388693
fuck off cucks, rata here
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>>184388989
kill yourself tranny. rata (me) only fucks pussy not boipucci
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Fuck off imposters
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>>184388334
Kaz, obviously.
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>>184387786
I would like to ser yusei or Jack.dek work on link era. Too bad it will never happen.
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>>184389227
Does Kaz do the card text design? I though all he does is make the illustration not the actual effects of cards.
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Do Magibullets have potential, or will they die to Dinos?
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>>184389550
They need just 1 more Quick-Play to be top tier

As it is, they already just kinda fold to any disruption/board clear
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>>184389550
They'll be a-okay if there's more way to fetch Caspar.
Star+Ties is barely enough.
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>>184389701
According to the deck list, they still have at least one more (maybe 2) S/T's left.
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how come there are no pirate themed archetypes?
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>>184389550
Weathery is the new hot shit from Duel Terminal.
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>>184387338
A nice deck that attracts the worst kind of duelist
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>>184390028
>Weathery is the new hot shit
You're right, they're a big pile of steaming shit right now
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>4 months, 5 days since Master Rule 4
>Percy S T I L L doesn't have links
>b-but muh AI
Either shit or get off the pot, goddamn
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>>184389389
Well, it was a movie card so he designed those. The reason it sucks in the real game is because it was only intended to be used by a character.
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>>184390028
>Weathery
>Duel Terminal
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>>184390161
muh roadmap ain't mention no ai there
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>>184388329
>I just summoned him to clear out leo dancer and then I otked him.
This is why i stated Ingnister on board was a bad thing, because that dude can wreck leo dancer which is why i said he was a bad player, if leo dancer is on the field and your life points aren't 0, then you're playing the deck wrong. If your lunalight opponent didn't dropped leo dancer like pic related then he should delete.dek
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>>184389990
You will take Photon Pirate and Theseus and you will like it.
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>>184389550
Depends. Could Majespecter beat Dinos before MR4?

>>184389917
Wild and Star don't have a corresponding spell/trap, so probably two more.
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>>184389990
But there is.
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>>184389550
Lets say you have a magibullet, and then play upstart goblin. IF your opponent destroy upstart goblin with mst then your magibullet monster will not activate. The text "You can add 1 Magibullet card with a different name from that activated card" means if the card you played (upstart goblin) is not face up (because of mst) then your magibullet monster effect will not activate.


Caspar is the best card by far. 2-card combo and can fuel all your future plays if your opponent cannot answer it.

Magibullet shooter star. Can special caspar from deck. Slower but gets the best searchers. Star needs 1 card, then you need 1 more card to trigger caspar. 3 card combo.

The kid. Discard 1 bullet to draw 2. Obscenely garbage. Only used because it is a ties of brethen target for caspar. because it has to discard bullet, it only fixes hands with many bullets for 2 random draws. Consider the bullets spell/traps are your defensive cards its counterproductive to the whole decks strategy. You want your ammo in the hand. 3 card combo that burns your bullets. the random draw 2 is too luck dependent to protect it on your opponents turn.

Doctor. Recycler. terrible starter but it helps you grind and run a smaller bullet count. really only used for ties of brethren target for caspar.

wild. shuffle 3 in graveyard for 1 draw. obscenely garbage. strictly worse doctor not to mention edgy art.

calamity. SS from grave. another terrible starter and to trigger that magibullet SS from grave you need another card. 3 card combo brick. complete shit.

zamiel is a "fair" spellbook of judgment except you draw random cards instead of search the cards you need. another shitty card.

The deck is caspar.combo its far too gimmicky right now. Unless your opponent is a complete dumbass and triggers your magibullets for you then this deck has no chance.
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what happens if you complete exodia but dont realize that you've completed it?does it fizzle or can you declare win when you realize it?
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>>184390921
>Has a sabre and a huge ass hook
>0 ATK
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>>184390975
You are mandated to declare Exodia when you get it, if you don't then you would get a Procedural Error - Warning I believe, assuming it can be proven that you did in fact have all 5 pieces and had won already.
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>>184390970
>Lets say you have a magibullet, and then play upstart goblin. IF your opponent destroy upstart goblin with mst then your magibullet monster will not activate.
Is this seriously the case?
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>>184390970
>IF your opponent destroy upstart goblin with mst then your magibullet monster will not activate.
Blatant lies.

>Caspar
>2-card combo
Next you'll say Summoner Monk is a 2-card combo.
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>>184391343
shut up rata. the deck is garbage and you should feel ashamed for playing it
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>>184390970
>" If a Spell/Trap is activated in the same column as this card:"
I fail to understand why your example would stop the bullet effect from activating
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>>184389990
it was meme CaCed log ago and then arcV well, arcV'd >>184390921
>>184390774
>not bistro butcher and corn
>>184391206
>Neither player can Summon or Set monsters from the hand. If there is a monster with 1000 or more ATK on the field, destroy this card.
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>>184391420
how about YOU feel ashamed for discussing it
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>>184391271
>>184391343
>>184391420
>>184391484
>>184391582
You can add 1 Magibullet card with a different name from that activated card. Because the card is not face up then you cannot resolve to check for a different name in order to resolve. Think of the blackwhirlwind vs book of moon ruling.
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what are exodia players like irl?
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>>184391715
>You can add 1 Magibullet card with a different name from that activated card.
>with a different name from that activated card.
Anon....
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>>184391914
If it cannot check the name. then it cannot perform a search. whats so hard to understand?
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>>184391787
https://youtu.be/lJiXMh4wuTU?t=52s
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>>184391984
Aren't S/T's treated as already being in the GY when activated though? Hence why MST negates Continuous stuff but not regular ones.
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>>184392061
No they still count being face up while still chaining. So you could chain all your back row in chain burn then banish those spells/traps with snow as the final chain link for the cost.
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>>184392061
No, spells/traps normally remain on the field until the chain fully resolves. MST also doesn't "negate" continuous cards
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>>184392037
18+
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>>184392264
>How Mig are you
???
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>>184392264
Nothing will surpass the draw of one of the fan. Literally some monster jerking off and finishing it and sayed something abouy "Pay 150000 LP to play Stratos again"
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>>184392179
>>184392193
Except Caspar is SS1, thus activated in a different chain.
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>>184392632
Thanks for clearing that up it makes playing against the deck much more easier now if that's how it gets ruled in the T/OCG
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>>184391715
Except all Magibullet effect triggers on a new chain, thus normally the activated S/T is on graveyard already.
Unless they make Caspar's effect only proc if you use Cont. S/T, then there's no reason MST can interfere with Caspar.
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So if a link monster that is linked to an extra deck monster is destroyed, the extra deck monster is unaffected, right? The only consequence other than the destroyed link monster should be that if the extra deck monster is removed, another extra deck monster won't be able to be special summoned to that spot without new pointers. Is my understanding correct?
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>>184393083
yes
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>>184392894
What the hell are you talking about, anon?
Caspar still works even if you MST the Upstart, just like how Ritual Forgone can summon Ritual.
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>>184393021
Makes perfect sense ruling-wise and common sense-wise.
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We need a type revolution. Far to long has konami dick rode warriors, spellcasters and machines. Took until 2013 for dragons to shine, not even going to mention the other types that just hang around like stray dogs that show their face in the meta every millennia.
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>>184393214
What's the most cucked type?
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>>184393459
Thunder
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>>184393214
Fuck you, Warriors, Spellcasters and Machines are the greatest and I wish everyone would only play those types
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>>184393214
Now we have Beast Warrior again. And for the first time, DINOSAURS
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>>184393459
reptile

>>184393491
at least thunder has thunder beatdown and battery man. those are at least somewhat of a meme deck. what reptile deck is there? worms?
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>>184393459
reptiles, has access to some broken support but just doesn't have anything to use it with
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>>184393459
Pyro
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>denko - ties into zap and raioh
I wonder why
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>>184393214
forgot your pic, anon.
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>No links on percy
>No girlfriend
>No third world war
>Fossil fusion are anime only

i hate this life
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>>184393806
>No third world war
Holy shit you are such a faggot
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>>184393806
>konami's printing water dragon support before fossil fusion support
what went wrong?
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>>184393598
>Forgetting the rekindling prime time
I don't want to see anything like lavals ever again
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>>184393637
>dark hole, response?
GG no re

>>184393806
You are stupid of course there is no 3rd world war proxy wars are all the hype right now you scrub
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>when I realized I am REALLY loving Cyberse archetype and Link Summon
Help, the deck is still not good and need the eventual support in the future yet I love it
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>>184393920
>konami prints support for one of the most well known cards in the game
>literally defeated by just not attacking them
>doesn't synergies with the original card whatsoever
nostalgia support is a hell of a drug
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>>184393693
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>>184394164
what archetype
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>>184394216
t. illiterate
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>>184394216
I think I wanted to say
>Cyberse-Type
Even Bitron is fucking adorable
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>>184394268
There's no Cyberse archetype
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>>184394216
>>184394268
>>184394268
Cybverse is a TYPE not an archtype like cyber dragon or "hero" you freaking dumb dumbs
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>>184394112
>proxy wars
metal, gear?
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>>184394164
>tfw they will eventually print a card called ddos dragon
cant wait
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>>184394216
Are you incapable of making a deck that doesn't build itself?
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>>184394167
What card?
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>>184394382
nah hidden rain village senpai
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>>184394457
dark magician girl
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>>184394754
>dmg's defeated by not attacking
Or attack by having a board of armades beatsticks
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>>184394451
>They fuck it up and go with DSoD to force a tie - in
cant wait
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>>184388334
the real problem is that it looks like it was soaked in piss
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>>184394994
please die avatarfag
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>>184394754
At the very least she is hot and her outfit is fapable to cosplay. Same goes for LioThicc>>184394994
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>>184395108
>being a dmg fag
>saying thicc
gtfo
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Having a good time at my sneak peek.
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>>184395108
>Same goes for Liothick
Except that Leo Dancer is an actually good card and not an useless piece of shitty dark magician support made just as fapbait for dark magician players.
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>>184394107
Doesn't laval have like 8 pyro-type monsters out of 25?

I would say rekindling more of the generic FIRE support then the pyro support.
>inb4 "is the same shit lol"
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>>184393459
fish type
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>>184395554
Did you pull or trade for those?
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>>184395554
Buy my fucking Duelist League Red Disturbance Strategies, you fellow burnshitter.
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>>184395653
*is more
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>>184395108
pink and blue was a mistake
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>>184395653
Fair enough, still though, everytime i think of Pyros or anything involving fire, its always rekindling degeneracy.
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>>184393459
cyberse
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Are there any world chalice deck lists?
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>>184395554
hotglue the candina, i dare you
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>>184396037
rata here. fuck off faker
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>>184395339
>>184395564
>>184395860
inhale my dong enragement child
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>>184396906
>this is the mindset of DMG fans
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>>184397026
>it aint gonna suck itself, tranny
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>>184395860
What's wrong with that combo?
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Man, Chinkpro fucking sucks. I'm getting unknown cards in opponent's decks and I just downloaded/updated last thread
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>>184397096
>erebus
>not getting sucked off by REAL girls that are also hot
>implying he isn't also smashing Ether's celestial ass
baka
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>>184397560
>wanting father daughter incest
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>>184396065
3 of every normal in the archetype, 3 Lee, 0-2 Guardragon, Rescue Rabbit/Ferret. Run 3 of Legacy's Heart and a couple copies of the field if you want. Fill rest with staples/stuff like Unexpected Dai. Run 2 of each of the Links along with Link Spider, and maybe Firewall. Definitely need backrow removal to stop Solemn's. Maybe as a spicy tech use Magical Mid-Breaker Field to further protect your combos.
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>>184397823
Ether, not Edea, but Edea's also hot.

Mythria is the best monarch waifu though
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>>184396906
kys dmgfag, get better taste in cards and video games
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>>184397952
Whoops, my bad. Agreed on all fronts.
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>>184396906
>being a DMGfag

You people are a disease almost as bad as mobage to the doujin industry.
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>>184398619
>mobage
>>184397998
Dark Magician Girl is the best girl. Stop bullying her you fucking pricks.
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What does a modern side deck look like?
I've checked OCG decklists and all I see are maxed Ogre/Ash/Cherry, Galaxy Cyclone, and Struggling Battle.
But I'm already maining all of those. What are you supposed to side against True Draco or Dinos?
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This might be ridiculously late, but when did Crawlers become Mekkstrocious Insects?
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>>184398851
i'm sure dmg won't mind getting bullied when she's currently being penetrated by multiple black cocks

>>184399471
dinos: battle traps
true draco: kaijus
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>>184399471
>What are you supposed to side against True Draco or Dinos?
That's what maining all that shit is for
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>>184399525
The flavor text of the grails always mentioned Mekkstrocities, we didn't know the name Crawler until we got cards revealed for them
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>>184399471
Side in Mask of Restrict against Dracos.
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>>184394167
>>literally defeated by just not attacking them

Keep in mind that this card is 4 years old and Magician Girls are only 1 year old.

Holy shit, did Konami not learn from their mistakes? It never worked before so why would it work now?
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>>184393459
fish probably
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>>184398851
>Stop bullying her you fucking pricks.
How the fuck do you not want us to bully DMG when everything about her is shit, in fact fuck it, i'm bullying the entirely of Dark magician

>Ace card is a vanilla with 2500 atk that requires two tributes, released on the SAME set as Summoned Skull, a vanilla beatstick with 2500 atk that only needed ONE tribute
>Unsearchable support until a decade later which needs to control very specific monsters
>Modern support dies to MST and its family
>Attempted retrains are all failures, specially mahad who might as well be a Sylvan card
>The xyz monsters they eventually got only consist of ONE good monster
No seriously, how the fuck is an xyz from 2014 better than a new one from 2016, and that being the same year we got zoodiacs (at least in the OCG)
>Dark Magician Girl gains mediocre ATK points
>Magician Girls are all frail and weak bitches that do nothing but be worse than melodious (At least judging how kiwi can give them the same protection melodious have)
>MagI Magi would be better if she was generic and didn't need that stupid cost of banishing one of your cards in your hand
And finally
>"If this card leaves the field: destroy all monsters you control" gets written on their best and only good support card and printed like this
Dark Magician is shit, DMG is a slut that has a fuckton of porn but said porn happens to be shitty, just like its archetype
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>>184399879
>literally bait for ya boi lightning
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>Rata the serb is here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLcXXz01Tn8
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>>184399879
At least the cult had secondary effects made to trigger Maiden/was ebin meme tech in some Spellbook decks. No one really does the former but Maiden is way better than the Magician Girls
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>>184399996
>"If this card leaves the field: destroy all monsters you control" gets written on their best and only good support card and printed like this
I know this entire reply chain in just shitposting for the sake of (you)s, but I don't get why this keeps getting mentioned over and over. It's really not that big of a deal.
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>>184400306
>but Maiden is way better than the Magician Girls
And she's also cuter and not a slut unlike the MG's
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>>184399996
>Billy Mays beating the fuck out of DMfags.
Bless you. And yes so much porn but its all shitty. Like all the shitty support but none of it is noteworthy
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>>184400395
>It's really not that big of a deal.
/dng/ everyone
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>>184400306
>one of the worst support cards in a kaiba archetype is a better version of every card in a yugi archetype

>>184400395
your whole fucking board dies to mst/twin twisters/cosmic cyclone/mystical wind typhoon. how is that not a problem
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>>184399996
>tfw the only reason Neos is so shit is probably so Dark Magician doesn't take the title of worst ace monster

I just don't understand it, over a decade worth of support including modern retrains and they still mess it up as if it's 2004.

Dark Magician has nothing but nostalgia holding him up but then you look at Blue-eyes who has less support but still managed to win Worlds.
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>>184400395
>It's really not that big of a deal.
Have you ever played with/against dark magician decks?
If Eternal Soul gets removed under any circumstances, the deck literally dies and its really easy to blow this shit up, if this wasn't the case, there might be plan B's in case eternal soul gets blown but since it literally makes mst into raigeki, there's no plan B and Dark Magician is nothing but a shitty deck that dies to other shitty decks.
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>>184399734
So, are the Crawlers not the Mekkstrocities/Mekk-knights/whatever the Mekks are?
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>>184399471
>I've checked OCG decklists and all I see are maxed Ogre/Ash/Cherry

Everybody maxes those cards, ogre and ash are already in the main deck for me. I side triple droll, triple decree for meme decks i might face and triple iron wall because super weak to grave ate, Cherry and 3 side meta cards cherry can hit. ( mermail player here)
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fuck bros im just outside the top 50 on ygopro now
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>>184400574
>Worlds
>mattering
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>>184400574
>including modern retrains
Except Neo spacians haven't been retrained and Neos only retrain was just an archetypal Honest which is an actually useful card if we still had stratos.
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>>184400410
That's what you got to appreciate.

These girls prove that revealing skin is just trying too hard to be sexy.
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>>184400395
>entire board dying to a chained MST
>not a big deal
The only other cards worth mentioning that do that are FKI(which are used in decks where blowing up all your shit isn't the end), and SPYRAL Sleeper, which isn't nearly as fragile thanks to being a monster as well as Last Resort being a thing.
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>>184400508
>your whole fucking board dies to mst/twin twisters/cosmic cyclone/mystical wind typhoon. how is that not a problem
Because losing your front row really doesn't matter in 2017. Raigeki, Dark Hole, and Slumber exist at good numbers. There are like four different Mirror Forces. I'd honestly be surprised if you didn't lose your front row even without Eternal Soul. And if you lose off Eternal Soul wiping your front row, then you would have died to a Raigeki or Dark Hole anyways, so what's the difference?

If they pop Eternal Soul, just activate your second one. It's searchable off two different cards that you're running max copies of. Or just bring out a Dark Illusion from your hand, because you didn't overextend, did you?

Hell, if you can just negate the Twister/Cyclone with Navigation, or make your opponent minus with Right Hand, or even Dark Magic Expanded if you have room for that kind of tech. Or better yet, just Starlight Road it, which is what I do.

Dark Magician is PURE DOGSHIT and will never top a tournament, but the Eternal Soul meme is just a meme and not really that big of a deal.
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>>184400931
I was talking about Dark Magician getting all that modern support but yeah, Neos is long overdue for some actual support.

Just give it an actual way to summon the fusions reliably without dumping everything and hoping to open Miracle Contact and better effects.
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>>184400395
Your whole gameplan is Dark Magician, Eternal Soul, and Dark Magicial Circle. Lets say you flip Eternal Soul, your opponent chains MST. You lose whatever field you had, your vanilla in hand is bricking, Dark Magical Circle is a blank without DM summoning. 3 card combo and even if you resolve that combo its hardly impressive even vs rogue deck combos, yet losing to backrow removal makes the whole deck a joke. It does matter. Their only win condition falls on its face with MST.

>>184401173
3 card combo becomes 4 cards. wew lad that deck is really amazing. without eternal soul and Dark Magical Circle the deck has no win condition. Its not a meme, thats reality the deck is garbage no matter what your 5 card hand is.

>>184400930
Imaginary format is serious business.
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Manjoume is in the Duelist Pack. So either Ojamas or Levels.
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>>184401173
>Because losing your front row really doesn't matter in 2017

Every other topping deck has a way to recycle their lost cards or float.
DM has nothing, it's not even on the level of early monarch decks. Mobius is Dark Magician's worst nightmare.

Every other card
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What are the odds that Ties of the Brethren gets reprinted in the set with Magibullets?
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>>184401173
>you would have died to a Raigeki or Dark Hole anyways, so what's the difference
the difference is that your opponent now has 2-3 extra copies of raigeki now, even more if their deck has extra ways of getting rid of eternal soul.

>If they pop Eternal Soul, just activate your second one
great, now you have a single 2500 beatstick that has immunity. but if your opponent has answer to either that or eternal soul you're fucked
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>>184401591
Really hoping it's LV support. Also source?
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>>184401591
>Manjoume
Source?

Last time was Joey on the cover, Mai, Mako, Sho, Ryo and Chemical guy

Sounds like this time, we need 3 DM characters and 3 GX characters.
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This deck has been pretty successful for me on ygopro, but I find decks that run ash blossoms and ghost ogres just crush my deck if they have it in their hand. ghost ogre can just counter VFD or dragonic diagram completely, and throwing an ash blossom down on oviraptor or ghost ogre when it activates its effect to pop a dino, my whole deck just completely stalls almost always. im scared as fuck to even play my cards when they throw down maxx C because they will draw like 10 cards. i dont care if they dont have blossoms or ogres in their deck but at tournaments everyone runs them. is there any adjustments i can make to fix this? if i get my combo of VFD + naturia beast out on first turn i almost always win.
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>>184401575
>Your whole gameplan is Dark Magician, Eternal Soul, and Dark Magicial Circle. Lets say you flip Eternal Soul, your opponent chains MST. You lose whatever field you had, your vanilla in hand is bricking, Dark Magical Circle is a blank without DM summoning. 3 card combo and even if you resolve that combo its hardly impressive even vs rogue deck combos, yet losing to backrow removal makes the whole deck a joke. It does matter. Their only win condition falls on its face with MST.
It's not that simple, though. Navigation also brings out DM. Dark Illusion procs Circle and also brings out a DM. You can search out more copies of Soul off Rod. Nothing you said has anything to do with the meme, though.

>3 card combo becomes 4 cards. wew lad that deck is really amazing. without eternal soul and Dark Magical Circle the deck has no win condition. Its not a meme, thats reality the deck is garbage no matter what your 5 card hand is.
You're absolutely right. I agree with you completely. The deck is garbage and couldn't even compete with last year's meta, much less today's.

But that's not what the post is about.

>>184401636
So does DM. That's not the reason the deck is shit.

>>184401720
>great, now you have a single 2500 beatstick that has immunity.
You presumably also hit something with Circle off that summon. And what did you have before Eternal Soul?

Really guys, you all seem to think I'm arguing that Dark Magician is a good or viable deck. I never even implied that.
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>>184400659
mekkstrosity could be another name for crawlers, the ocg lores for the chalice normal monsters dont mention the ocg crawler name
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>>184401173
>Because losing your front row really doesn't matter in 2017.
Even top tier shit hates losing their boards
>I'd honestly be surprised if you didn't lose your front row even without Eternal Soul. And if you lose off Eternal Soul wiping your front row, then you would have died to a Raigeki or Dark Hole anyways, so what's the difference?
the difference is that Eternal souls says "if this card leaves the field" so not only destroying it kills your entire board, let's say you have ASF or Secret village of the spellcasters to make sure your shit won't get spaced but then the opponent destroys your eternal soul by a monster effect. If Eternal Soul said "if this card is destroyed by your opponent's card effect" then there would be a LOT more ways to mitigate the self destruction but since this is not the case it sucks low dick.

And everything else you said is just situational shit that rarely happens or its shit that's easy as fuck to bait, this is why it is a big deal and as another anon said, cards that do the same shit of blowing your entire board if the key card gets destroyed have ways to mitigate it or it doesn't affect you at all, fire king island is the best example of this, it makes your shit floats, and Fire kings happen to float into a NUKE on top of Fire King Kozmos, Kozmos would also float into some other kozmo mosnters which means you don't lose any card advantage, but do dark magicians float or have ways to replace themselves after eternal soul is blown the fuck out?
No, this is why (Again) it is a big deal that eternal soul has that piece of text printed on the card and i say its the worst support card for that reason.
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>>184401952
Samefag here, if this holds up, I'm calling Kaiba, Ishizu, Keith, Johan, Manjoume and Edo for support.
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>>184401973
derp forgot the file
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>>184402153
You can't really do anything to counter hand traps outside of running that one psy-frame to protect your Diagram
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>>184402007
>You presumably also hit something with Circle off that summon.
sure, you banished a single card. most decks can deal with that, and if your soul + circle got twistered you're even more fucked

>And what did you have before Eternal Soul?
does it matter? none of dm's shit floats or gets brought back easily
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>>184402153
>Imperial order on a spell heavy deck
Besides this, the deck looks ok although i'd put a ghost ogre in place of the third ash blossom mainly because it would pop the diagram in the mirror match against true dracos/kings
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>>184402421
>does it matter? none of dm's shit floats or gets brought back easily
Then why does it matter if it got wiped?
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>>184402575
because you pray they dont mst or you lose. glass canon deck and the risk/reward is so minuscule.
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>>184402153
Those cards fuck everyone, though I think Skull Meister stops them
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>>184402504
Doesn't matter unless you're playing Exodia, Spellbooks or Pends. Order is just 2gud not to run, use your spells then flip it on their first spell and it's often GG.
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>>184402153
ive been playing wombo combo decks for a while and they inherently lose to interruption and you cant really stop that. i feel like ogre is better than ash at keeping you safe but i'd say run 3 of each. don't play into maxx c, everytime ive maxx c'd dinos at locals ive won but theres only a 10% or so chance of them seeing it
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>>184399525
>>184400659
Shit, they butchered the lore.
No mention of the relation between the trio.
Erasing the whole backstory in Crowned.
Jacknight => Mekk-Knight.
Jumping the gun by directly saying that Crawler is controlled by Mekkstrocious, and even implying that Crawler is Mekkstrocious' creation.

>>184402043
They mentioned it in the furigana.
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>>184402668
Again, just don't overextend unless you have an out and you'll be fine. And there are plenty of outs. It's not like Eternal Soul is the ONLY way for the deck to function. You still have Dark Illusion, Robe, beating down with Apprentice, Navigation to get things from the hand (which you can recycle off Illusion Magic), and you can always search more Eternal Souls off Rod if you want.

Again, don't get me wrong. I'm NOT arguing that Dark Magician is a viable deck. Even if your opponent agrees to never even touch your Eternal Soul, you'll probably still lose. But Eternal Soul isn't some game-ending completely unusable garbage card like the meme implies.
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>>184402931
No its because eternal soul is the best card in the deck. And its so frivolous with its "protection" thats why the meme exists. The card is the best card in the deck yet its also so shitty. Get it?
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>>184402318
Guess I just gotta pray.
>>184402504
Imperial order is amazing. This deck can do plenty without diagram, if I've made it past turn 1 I almost always don't need to play a spell again and it almost always cripples them more than it cripples me.

>>184402854
There's not enough cards I can take out for 3 ghost ogres that are worth it when I can cripple their whole deck on turn 1.

Guy who said run 2 blossoms + 1 ogre, I'll think of that. I was running 3 + 1 but the 1st Turn naturia beast was just too good so I subbed the ogre for another aelo
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>>184402153
Drop the kaiju, drop Agn, drop 1 Aeolo. That's 3 spots for ghost ogre. Not a single deck should go without ogre in this current meta.
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>>184403131
Circle is the best card in the deck.

Eternal Soul is a good card and almost mandatory at 3, but it doesn't do anything unique or special because there are several other ways of getting DM on the field or flooding with enough monsters to do Rank or OTK plays.
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>>184403323
What's Agn? And no way I can drop 2nd aeleo. It let's me first turn naturia beast with 90% of hands, my win rate has gone up like 70% since 1st turning naturia beast instead of laggia.

Also I may just be confused about rules but can ygopro only let's me activate VFDs effect to the draw phase, spell/trap activation, monster effect, and I think the end phase. Can you not just activate it during their main phase at any time, or after a monster is summoned?
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>>184402092
>Even top tier shit hates losing their boards
Zoods even ran Starlight because getting a boardwipe just once already put them near dead
Recovery speed doesn't matter if you don't get a turn in to actually abuse it because you got sacked by Dark Hole into an OTK
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>>184403734
you're not wrong, hold down the mouse button to activate stuff during open game states. agn is the fire true king im guessing
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>>184403874
Okay thanks.

I know ghost ogre is a quick effect so it happens before stuff like diagram, does ghost ogre stop drident too? How do I know exactly if another card is a quick effect, are quick effects only able to activate as part of a chain basically? Is a quickplay spell considered spell speed 2 even if it's not activated in response to something?
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>>184403734
No turn player gets the first move. For example when the first thing that happens your opponent draws. Then your opponent has turn player priority to activate a quick spell from the hand if they wanted to. (this is relevant if you want to play around drastic drop off, you get first action in draw phase)
If turn player does not play anything in draw phase you may activate card effect.So main phase 1, your opponent gets the first action. So if you have Psyframe omega you still have to wait until your opponent does something. Say your opponent sets 1 face down spell/trap, now you can respond with your spell speed 2 effect if applicable. Anyways if you are trying to stun the opponent dont even let them play, use it during draw phase. if you dont want to get rule sharked in real life. ask them if they want to play something first during draw phase, if they pass then you are good to go.
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>>184403734
>What's Agn?
Agnimazud most likely
>Can you not just activate it during their main phase at any time
No because during their main phase the game state is open which means that they're the only one who can act first. You can respond to their actions but not choose to act before they do anything. In order to use your stuff when the program doesn't automatically ask you if you want to respond, hold down the "A" key and it'll ask at every opportunity if you have something that can be activated
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>>184404125
>if you dont want to get rule sharked in real life. ask them if they want to play something first during draw phase
A better way to word it is "are you ending your draw phase?".
Phases in Yugioh only end when both players decide to pass, with the turn player needing to pass first.
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>>184404123
ghost ogre can only chain to a card that is face up. Basically you can only use it to respond, not to proactively remove threats.
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>>184404306
I know, but if it's used in response to diagram, diagrams effect doesn't go off because of its spell speed. How do I know own the spell speed of a card and also the second question, is something with spell speed 2 still spell speed 2 if it isn't activated in response to something. Is MST always spell speed 2 even if just played from your hand?
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>>184404449
spell speed isnt the issue, continuous s/t have to stay on the field through resolution to do anything, monsters do not.
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>>184404253
Yes exactly. Its incredibly contrived but both players are supposed to pass "states" constantly but not only is that time consuming it is incredibly dumb. I guess if you wanted to slow play opponent you could do that and judge couldnt do shit if you dont take long.

>>184404449
Fields spells and continous spells/traps do not resolve properly when they are removed. No idea why its like this but my guess was so future continuous card design wouldnt be hampered by being too powerful so they gave it a weakness in removal. Stuff like drident, you need to negate its effect. even if you ghost ogre it whatever drident targeted it will destroy.
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>>184404532
Oh, that makes sense then.
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>>184404123
destruction effects like ogre dont negate unless its chained to an effect of a continuous, field or equip card or the card has a condition like naturia beast, drident wouldnt get negated but it would get destroyed. if it says during either player's turn, is a quick play or is a trap its a quick effect. quick plays are always considered ss2 but there are some like superpoly that act as ss4 cards
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>>184404683
Another question. When I activate VFD, I assumed it prevents effect activation from all cards in hand field and grave of the declared type. But lots of times it seems my opponents can activate monster effects that special summon that monster to the field, are these effects treated differently for some reason?
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>>184404938
Let's say you declared EARTH, that means all monsters on field will become earth and the opponent's earth monsters cannot activate their effects or attack, if the opponent has a non-earth monster on their hand, grave or even banished, this can activate its effect
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does lose 1 turn not turn fusion effect monsters to defense?
if so, why?
just dueled a true draco player and from what i could tell none of his card effects prevented that particular effect, especially since it's effect still got negated
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>>184404769
Poly is SS2. its just special that your opponent cannot respond to it.

SS4 only exists unofficially in the vaults of Upper deck entertainment known as the seal of orichalcos. Which is a card only UDE employees have and it was for an event duel.

>>184404938
Not all cards start chains for to be summoned. Stuff like cyber dragon is not an effect that starts a chain (it never activates) so VFD doesnt stop it. Its called an inherent special summon. You might have played INfernoids or darkworld grapha that would special summon and they even have a cost to pay but do NOT start a chain so again no activation.
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>>184404938
Summoning Conditions are not effects. Cards like Cyber Dragon don't have an effect, just a Summoning Condition. VFD doesn't stop that.

VFD negates monsters with the selected attribute, but it only changes the attribute of monsters on the field. If you select DARK, for example, your opponent can still use Honest in the hand because it's a Light monster there.

VFD also only stops activations. If your opponent activates a monster effect, then you chain VFD to that activation, VFD isn't going to do shit because the monster effect was already activated before VFD resolved.
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>>184404938
they're either inherent summons or are effects to summon from hand which arent affected by vfd's attribute change
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>>184405120
>true draco
>fusion
you ok there?
try reading MP
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>>184405120
What monster did you summon, and how?
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>>184405153
Thanks that makes sense. I know Laggia works in the opposite right? Can't negate summons that start chains?
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>>184405490
>Royal Swamp Eel
What the fuck?
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>>184405442
Mostly because it's an effect, not a summon.
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>>184405361
yes he had fusions

>>184405370
aleistar i think it was? required a fire monster and and aleister
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>>184405616
For White Aura shits I'm sure
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>>184405490
>AIM reprint
Loving every laugh.
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>>184405858
that invoked
and purgatio
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>>184404769
>muh SS4
I too, love chaining Super Poly to Solemns
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>>184405490
Link?
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>>184405858
Are you the one with Lose 1 Turn?
I'm guessing he have Al's field face-up, which prevents you from activating any effect when a monster is fusion summoned.
L1T still negates its effect because that part of the effect isn't an activated effect.
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>>184405442
Yes Laggia cannot negate summons that start chains. This is hard to articulate so forgive me if it comes out crudely. Think of it like this for polymerization: Poly is activated which is card effect that special summons, this is where solemn warning negates the effect if you wanted. If Polymerization resolves the first thing to happen is the monster hits the summon window. Due to game mechanics you cannot activate cards as cards are resolving in a chain so the monster in the summoning window doesnt wait for your response, it just hits the field now and is summoned successfully. In order to negate you have to negate during the summoning window (this is the void between extra deck/hand and monster zone when checking for successful summon, technically not on field, but also not on hand either aka the void but still in your possession)but polymerization starting a chain cock blocks laggia as it: game mechanics wont allow you to respond for the summon window and so the special summon card passes through the onto the field which is a successful summon. Hope that makes sense as most players find this the most confusing.

>>184405854
Its still a summon, so you could bottomless trap hole a dark law for example but to negate the summon you must negate during the summon window but game mechanics prevent either player from playing during card resolution. once the card is successfully summoned as the chain resolves, you can play torrential, bottomless etc

>>184405858
see >>184406451
That field spell is pretty fun. Say you fusion Raiden with the Magical Meltdown face up. Once you summon Raiden in response to your summon,you can trigger the book of moon effect to target say Drident, and they cant respond because of the field spell.
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>>184407932
Actually, Laggia can negates Poly.
You just need to know that everything that starts a chain is an (activated) effect, so you can't negates it with summon negation, you need effect (or activation) negation.

Whether that effect open a summon response window after it resolves is a bit of different matter, since you need to dwell on post-resolution window.
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>draw an almost useless Hand expect two very interesting cards
>can only set my Jurrac Brachis and one of the interesting cards
>opponent does some bananas play and gets a Blue Eyes Chaos on the field
>take 6000 damage
>just_as_planned.png
>activate Inferno Tempest
>summon Tyranno Infinity with 17k attack and win
Ah it feels so good to win with dumb stuff
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>>184408913
Yes nice catch i didnt mean laggia vs poly activating. Just laggia vs SS effects and summoning window. better example would be Laggia vs one of the Elemental Dragon Rulers ss effects. I wanted to focus explaining on the summoning window and card resolution and why black horn of heaven cannot negate polymerizations Special Summon, something even most head judges cannot explain to their players. They just say "thats how it is". which is the answer I didnt want to give
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What are the best ways to play Aromas?
I wanna play a stun deck that isn't completely braindead, and aromas don't seem to be so fucking boring like other demise.deks, and it has some pretty cardfus
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Who is rata and why do you freaks spam that fuck? Youtube hero of yours /dng/?
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>>184410092
Rank10ygo, that's the slavic rat everyone (read: one faggot) is trying to impersonate here. And also the person who used meme magic to cause B.E.S. support exist
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name a better cardfu

oh wait, it's impossible
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>>184410029
>What are the best ways to play Aromas?
You don't
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>Missus Radiant puts the average deskbot monster board have 2000+ ATK per monster
>OCG brought back wavering eyes
>mfw i start games with Infinity, natty beast and missus radiant and/or end them with limiter removal on a 009 that got real big
I hope the TCG brings back Wavering Eyes just like the OCG did it
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Rate my pulls. I managed to get 3/4th of the Zarc dragon cards out of the 5 packs I got for the sneak and Punishment Dragon as my first holo.
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>>184413056
Deskbots are pure fun, I always laugh at the faces people make at my locals when I wip out an infinity + naturia beast + a link
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>>184413056
decklist?
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>>184413127
I would've rather gotten a servant clear wing than a punishment dragon.
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>>184414518
Don't worry, I managed to get one via trade along with a Cyberse Wizard and a Missus Radiant.
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>>184415139
Nice. You better build Zarc.dek
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>>184405889
why the hell is it that price? if people wanted them why didnt they get multiple shonen jump subs?
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>>184414470
That was just what i did in locals, i haven't updated my deskbot deck on ygopro and i don't have my deck available at the moment, i'll post a decklist later on, but for the most part, its the same shit deskbots run on average, the only difference is that i play Limiter Removal despite being an useless card because i can OTK without it and some other shit i don't remember
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>>184415195
Already did. Those were actually the very last cards I needed for the deck. [Spoiler] Even used it in a duel and won against another Zarc deck right after I was done trading.[/spoiler]
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>>184415390
Good job. Reminds of Dark Matter.dek, where a guy bragged about how good his blue-eyes build was and called my dng approved r8 spam janky and then I 3-0'd him.
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>>184415390
Dammit I fucked up on the spoilers.
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"Strongest card of the year" Jap edition
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>>184415470
Funny thing was we both did major misplays. His was activating Torrential Tribute when he summoned Skullcrobat during the turn he set it and mine was forgetting to pendulum summon Astrograph from my extra deck to bring out Zarc. I bought him out next 2 turns and won.
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>>184413127
my first holo i opened was a paywall dragon after ordering 3 the day before, i got a radiant as well though so i cant complain too much
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>>184415762
I'll be your strongest card(s) of the year
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>>184416036
Nice. How much are they selling for right now?
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>>184415762
TRANSLATE IT WEEBS
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>>184416176
>That right one
ERECT
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>>184416264
I bought 3 for $100 usd and traded the one i pulled for a ghost black rose and another houndhorde
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>>184416490
So around 30-35 dollars for just one. Sounds about right.
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Can Gem-Knights ever be meta or even Tier 2 or are they fundamentally trash? I really like their play style (which miraculously still functions in MR4) and want to bring them to a locals by the time the next set or two comes out. I'm trying not to focus on Brilliant too much because that WILL hit the ban list sooner or later and I want contingencies.
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Chances of Gofu being hit in TCG?
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>>184418131
99% of getting hit
1% of not getting hit because the retards forgot it exists
Thinking this through, switch the chances and you got it
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>>184417428
They're outdated, plain and simple.
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>>184416282
It's just Thesius (Male) and Tornado Dragon (Wyrm), anon.
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>>184416176
>more unplayable matchwinner garbage
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Evil HERO support when?
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>>184418131
Gofu is a shit meme.
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>>184416176

What's the point of reprinting match winners? You can't use them, and it makes the original feel less special. Why not have a special prize for people who top worlds?
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>>184425027
Youre shit
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>>184426101
didn't a shadow duel end you

get the fuck out
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>>184426526
You cant kill the darkness
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>>184405490
Fuck the weebs who made Apprentice a $60 card.
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>>184429541
if you want shonen jump cards get a subscription nigger
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>>184405490
why do ocg cards have kana versions on the kanji text?
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Are there any good 2 mat Link 2s yet or should I just keep playing MTG EDH format for now?
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>>184432250
stay in mtg until around this date next year.
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>>184399996
>DMG is a slut that has a fuckton of porn but said porn happens to be shitty, just like its archetype
>implying that is not the case with pretty much every porn out there
The only bad thing about DMG in porn is that she steals too much draw skill
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>this loli girls want you to take them to the park so they can play
>they are not your normal human lolis so do something to them and you get dickless
Ok now take them to the park
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>>184433402
I ACTIVATE BREAKTHROUGH SKILL
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>>184432250
missus radiant is a generic link2 that needs 2 earths and mastar boy is the same but for water. nothing else really
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What do you call your decks?
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Since columns now mater they should release a field spell that turns the game into monster world.
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>>184435573
I refer to them by the dominant archetype. If a deck focuses on Gouki cards, it is my Gouki Deck.
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>>184433230
>implying that is not the case with pretty much every porn out there
What do you mean?
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>>184396906
>>>r/fnaf
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>>184437786
>>>/trash/
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>>184411240
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So in Japan, one player got a world's invite with Trickstars, but the list uses triple chicken game, and 1 more each of Honest and MaxxC than is allowed in burgerstan. Will pure Trickstars be viable, or am I just better off shoving in a second strategy like Wind Witches or Paleos to fill out the deck?
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>>184436610
>almost all the dojins this days are rapeshit, ntrshit, guroshit, futashit and other shits
>barely vanilla doujins
>dmg happens to be used more for vanilla dojins
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>>184438867
Why put Boarbow in? Why not put in more r4nk goodstuff like Castel or FCG? Hell, even Cowboy would be more useful
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>>184438867
Worry not, my friend, for it is mere luck that makes him triumph.
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I kinda dont know what to play. Gouki seems interesting but all the support isn't out yet
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>>184439731
Black Bomber.
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>>184435559
>generic
>needs earth
Are you retarded?
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>>184439976
How good it's Topologic Bomber?
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>>184440081
On par with Supreme Clear Wing.
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>>184429541
It's $60 because it's a promo card you need to run 3 of for the deck to function.
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>>184425584
Some people want them for the artwork, and its not like their existence makes the actual prize cards less valuable.
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>>184439287
It's to overlay on top of mind controlled zoodiac which nets you a direct attacker and with viper attached even if you're lucky.

But really, his tech choice is a bit questionable.
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>>184439271
I'm usually more focused on the quality of the art and sex than the fetishes, but I can see why you'd think that way.
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what are some fun decks to play in legacy of the duelist? percy scares me because i have anxiety
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Why the hell are you retards paying over $10 for Firewall? That shit is irrelevant right now. No wonder the paywall meme is forced.
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>>184443494
Not to mention it's getting a tin down the line.
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>>184440081
Not.
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>>184445250
>1+1=?
>a number
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Lmao. I feel like the luckest fucker in the world. He should have went double negation over hand removal, but to be fair most people would auto quit with the loss of two cards.
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post songs that remind you of your deck
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4XCk2HFdNc
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What are the MVP cards for this sneak peak?
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>>184447462
u* yuor*

https://youtu.be/ebILIKHi9wo
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>>184447173
Noice
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>>184447462
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4v351FhLfo
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Zvi2MyXIOk
>Solid Vision might exist within our lifetimes
What went so right?
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>>184447816
I wouldn't know, the locals I went to fucked me over because I was under the impression we'd be playing draft and we played regular decks. So I had to go up against true dracos using my shitty Cyberse because I wasn't ready, making me miss out on the playmats.
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>>184447816
Revenants is a 1800 beater that revives itself once, Gouki Riscorpio is basically Cyber Dragon, Trumpanda is also nice for its attack negation.
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Worlds 2017 is in 12 days which means that it's time for the third /dng/ prediction poll to get rolling! We need all of you, yes (You), to vote for who you think is going to take it this year? At most, I'll post a reminder 4 times a thread so that we can get as many people to vote as we can, so get voting. Will we get screwed over by meme magic this year? Who the FUCK knows
>The latest allowed set in the World Championship 2017 is “Collectors Pack 2017” and “Starter Deck 2017”. “Code of the Duelist” is not allowed.
For minor information on the banlist: http://roadoftheking.com/yu-gi-oh-world-championship-2017-forbidden-limited-list
Poll: http://www.strawpoll.me/13585023
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>>184450453
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>>184450453
>normal summoning Blue Eyes
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>>184450453
What game are the 3D models they're using from?
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>>184450453
>~5.5K monsters
>~3K S/Ts
>~200 Field Spells
>~75 cards that can summon token
I really hope I can see someone doing this in my lifetime.
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I forgot how much I missed Dueling Network.
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>>184451990
Me too
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>>184452098
>not full edition
come on now
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>>184452098
How will links affect Fluttershy meta?
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>>184451264
Where my true draco bros at?
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>>184452528
Thank you oh so very much for this
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>Outer Gods are literally useless at this point
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>>184451364
What did they mean by this?
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>>184452534
they haven't come back to db yet?
will probably not play the format
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>>184451264
>12 days
And so little hype? This game truly is dead.

>Will we get screwed over by meme magic this year?
When has that ever happened?

Anyways, True Draco or Dinos are taking it. What else can even compete against them under Worlds?

>Zoos are unplayable
>Trickstars are a meme
>Pendulums are dead(implying 6% means shit compared to over 40%)
>ABC has no Proxy Dragon to make Dragon Buster
>Infernoids have only 1 Grass and Loli is still at 3
>Blue-eyes and Tellars are powercreeped despite no hits since then
>D/D/D is dead with none of their new support, especially under Links
>Paleos, Mermails and HERO without Toad at all
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>>184452810
Dyson Sphere is really big.
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>>184452808
>tfw they errata Norden to only allow the summon of Entities for the rest of the turn, and release a ton of entity support.
This is my wish.
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>>184453020
Invoked is winning worlds.
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>>184451264
>ban shogi rook
>but azzathoth is fine
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>>184453020
>When has that ever happened?
2015?
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>>184452810
>summon Dyson Sphere
>eclipse the sun
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>>184453306
First of all
>Europe

Secondly
>implying anybody will actually summon that without Ptol
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>>184453537
>not using RUM the phantom knights of launch to upgrade a dark rebellion (or whatever DARK rank 4 xyz) into azzathoth on the opponent's turn
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>>184453763
>during your main phase
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>>184453379
>listening to those ritual cucks who spent all that money on a now dead deck which got cucked by Burning Abyss at Nats.

People weren't thinking back then.

If even Charmers could beat Nekroz by maining the side even when they had Djinn lock, what could other decks do when they don't have Djinn lock?

Tellars were bound to win, especially piloted by Shunsuke
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>>184454051
That totally explain why Nekroz was tier 0.
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>>184447462
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFYo2-KUeTA
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>>184453537
Then why the hell Mystic Wok is on the list?
I mean, no sane person would even think to use it.
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>>184450453
Can't wait to see Konami take it down.

>>184453217
What were they thinking when they made that retarded archetype?
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>>184453106
>Errata
they have like hundreds of monsters available just release new ones
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>>184454709
fuck off rata
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>>184454862
>Forbidden in the Japan World Championship Qualifiers:
they hate LP memeing and azzoth ocg only anyway
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>>184453020

>hype
>for an imaginary format
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>>184450593
Where the fuck is atmos
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>>184451264

>emergency provisions on the list

someone explain this shit
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>>184454906
>What were they thinking when they made that retarded archetype?
hey, it's like, one of the only three ed-only archetype.
have some respect
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>>184455461
Retardation does not deserve respect.
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>>184455413
LP gaining lets you cheat out win when time is called.

>one guy has 100 LP, the other has 1000 LP and time is called.
>one guy uses EP to gain 1000
LP
>that guy wins since 1100 > 1000 and time is called.
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>>184455413
They banned a bunch of LP gain stuff, they also have Rainbow Life, Mystic Wok, and Tri-And-Guess on the list. Apparently that only applies to the Japanese WCQ's though.
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>>184455797
>you can chain to time being called
Alright.
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>>184455597
don't hate yourself that much, anon.
it's not healthy.
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>>184456117
Clever.
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>>184451264
>Dante and Beatrice are both on the banlist

As if Links weren't enough, BA is 100% dead for Worlds.
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>>184457192
>reiji doing that
doubt
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>>184457192
heh, nothin personnel kid
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>>184457597
Finally a good Six Samurai card in that pack
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what do /dng/
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>>184450453
>blue-eyes attacks
>no beam animation
It's shit!
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>>184457608
Manga Reiji is kind of "special".
I guess "Dark Contract" doesn't exist in the manga and "Seal" takes its place instead.
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>>184458325
Add Treasure Panda to summon Exodia pieces from the deck
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>>184457793
>
>>184458325
drop the exod meme and use the new sword
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>>184458857
but exod is a opt foolish, its worth running only for that
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>>184457793
Why is this a trap and not a spell?
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>>184459551
Because people usually leaves one spot open to activates spell and stuff.
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>>184458604
But there's only, like, 6 spells you can use if you choose to NS Panda that turn.
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>>184455238
It's not imaginary if it's used as the format for an official event you complete buffoon
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>>184461816

If only several dozen people play the format a year, it may as well be imaginary.
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>>184455797

Who the fuck is going to put a shitty card in their deck just for the chance that they can cheat out a win when time is called?
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>>184462480
No, it might as well not be imaginary because it's used for the most high-status tournament in the game. How hard is that to accept?
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>>184463076
Someone playing stall.dek.
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>>184463172

>high-status

Just because you need an invite doesn't mean anyone gives a fuck. It's a special version of the game that's only played by several dozen people once every year. More people play fucking goat control than worlds format. Nobody is going to get hyped for a tournament of a version of the game that they don't play.
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>>184459551
Because it's from Cyberdark Impact.
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>>184463841
all tournament is a tournament of a version of the game that they don't play.
i mean, more people play the game casually in the kitchen table rather than in tournament.
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>>184463841
>have to continuously do well at high-tier tournaments to compete
>the biggest event in the game, both regions center their entire tournament scheduling around and for it
>an international event
>not hype
I bet you're fun at parties.
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>>184464757

What? Worlds is a different format. It's not just a different tournament, it has a different card pool.
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sorry Northwemkun but it seems like we actually got support before you
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>>184464893
>he didn't play different format in his kitchen table tourney
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>>184464887

>it's big and you have to top nats to get an invite
>that means it's good

>nevermind that it's a different game than the one you actually play
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>>184465009
good job on beating cyber angel token spam, darklords must be really good if they can beat that tier 0 shit
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>>184465187
>boohoo i can't netdeck so it's bad
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>>184465342
>token spam
i gave them the tokens you mongoloid
and that combo can be made against most decks, if they want to stop it they have to drancia the dragonoid generator, which they never ever do because nobody see it coming
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>>184465187
>slightly different banlist = completely new game that is totally unrelated in every single way
Nobody calls sealed format imaginary, and that's significantly more different than worlds.
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>>184465686

>banlist is double the size and a shit ton of recently released cards are not allowed
>not completely different

>>184465451

what the fuck are you talking about, why would i complain that i cant netdeck for a tournament i'm never gonna go to
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>>184465615
So is the combo literally just
>go second
>summon Morningstar using tokens
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>>184465805
>only able to use cards you pull
>muh completely different game
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>>184465805
>waah, why can't I use cards that other people literally don't have access to
Opinion discarded.
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>>184465814
yes but its searchable and i generally go first as it is a vanity/krystia turbo build. Morningstar is a side meme in case it fails
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>>184466006
>dragonoid generator
>searchable
???
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>>184465907

It is different. Would you be hyped for worlds if it was just a draft format?
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>>184463841
>It's a special version of the game that's only played by several dozen people once every year.
Don't the Konami OTS's host tournaments using Worlds banlist?
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>>184466006
Decklist?
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>>184466295
yeah, since it's the most prestigious tourney in ygo
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>>184465938

Why the fuck do you keep insisting that i'm going to be playing at worlds?
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>>184466216
I obviously meant Morningstar stop pretending. As for Dragonoid, you dig the decks quite a lot so you will stumble upon a copy quite often
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>>184466216
;)
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>>184466587
10 000 eons of deckbuilding
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>>184466607
all tourney doesn't mean shit to you then
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>>184466912

What the fuck are you talking about?
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>tag with the notes 'no fucking true draco or pend magician'
>ok i guess it's another casual player and it's just a tag, i'll bring one of my petdecks
>it's a pair of double deckers running cydra infinity turbo
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>>184467046
cause you ain't playing in any
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>>184467178

In any what?
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>>184467252
sorry, autism ain't welcome here
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>>184467336

Are you having a stroke or something?
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>>184467173
>a pair of double deckers
?

and just lightning it into oblivion
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>>184466607
You keep insisting that Worlds is radically different. It's not
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>>184466216
everything is searchable if you try hard enough.
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>>184467562
He means that the opponents played the same deck on purpose to give them a strategic edge.
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>>184467535
a stroke of inspiration, yeah
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>>184467649
should've posted this pic
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Destiny HEROes + Predator Plants =
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>>184469092
Niggers
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>>184465009
What support though?
And congrats!
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>>184469663
this absolute memery
best of luck with the incoming ritual support
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>checking konami sales
>duelinks boosted the sales by a bit for the tcg and ocg.
I hate phones now.
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>>184470809
>"I hate having more people being interested in the game I enjoy"
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>Playing against star grails
>Game 3 he opens venus brings out her anal beads while i have sphere mode in hand in case shit goes wrong
>Shit actually went wrong, he overlayed for Lion Heart and OTK'd my face
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>>184471678
I atually want this game to die.
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>>184418282
>implying tcg konami didnt amass gofu supers so they can profit of hype
anon

>>184420573
that was bait idiot
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How come no one has tested how Full power Rulers fare out in link format?
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>>184475387
>summon Number 42
>summon a bunch of Links
>repeat above until full board of Firewalls.
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Hmm, one guy is saying that the DP is DM only. Another guy is saying that he hopes for Orichalcos, Judai, Johan, Manjoume, Aki and Kiryu. Both have dropped valid leaks in the past and the second guy revealed a shitload of stuff for the most recent packs so him saying he "hopes" those characters are in the pack could just be him revealing it while covering his ass at the same time.Either way I'm sure everyone would prefer the second set to be true.
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>>184453973
???
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>>184471678
This is a valid opinion to have.
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>>184478558
Which makes it a valid thing to make fun of, since "muh sekrit club" is faggotry of the highest order.
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>>184479270
Not really.
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What's the one thing you truly feel would improve this game, if anything?
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>>184447462
https://youtu.be/xxIsmbVZuSI
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>>184480969

it is

>new people coming into the game is bad
>i wish the game died a slow death due to lack of new people replacing players who quit
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>>184481615
removing the barrier between OCG and TCG
no different banlists, no different card wordings to confuse matters, no cards you have to wait literally forever for, with no downside at all
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>>184481858

The downside is that konami would need to put in more effort, and that's way too much for them.
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>>184481615
Overall, i can only think of 5 ways (most of them being on the TCG side)
-Better imports, Dimension Box stuff should've been on Dimensional Guardians but they just added bullshit that has no purpose or business being there
-Rulings and Rules to be consistent on ALL regions and formats so there's no "nuh huh that's an OCG ruling, there's no TCG ruling about this card" bullshit
-Actual fucking dates for the banlist and emergency banlists will only happen when single deck or engine is used in 70%+ of the decks in regional or even national events, this also applies for the OCG because didn't they dealt with full power EmEm for 4 months? We got it lucky by having those shits get e-listed. And finally, clear up some space off the banlist
-Playable archetypes, give shitty archetypes actually good support to make them playable at the very least. The same goes for generic type support, give Rock, Fish, Plant and Reptile some good supports.
-Judges to be also trained to spot illegal plays and other shady shit like stacking, ANY type of shuffling should be allowed to make sure card stacking does not happen
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>>184481858
god i wish it worked like that. worlds would be a lot less of a meme if it actually reflected what was going on in the meta
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>>184481850
>game isbad
But it is I've seen so many people at locals leave with a sour taste from trying to learn this game and it's not a community problem everyone helps. The mechanics are not appealing.
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http://www.yugioh-card.com/uk/limited/
WOAH
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>>184483061
>didn't they dealt with full power EmEm for 4 months?
Six, actually
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>>184483424
God damn
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>>184483334
>Norden limited
>Terrortop limited
>Grass Looks Greener limited
>Skullcrobat unlimited
>Wisdom-Eye unlimited
>Pendulum Call unlimited
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>>184416176
>Will never have an archetype that has as consistent amazing art as the Match winners.
I want am archetype of celestial astronauts like Juno.
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>>184481850
More people getting into a series can just as easily ruin it quality wise, though most of the examples I can think of were trash anyway and just became worse trash.
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>>184484347

if new people stopped playing yugioh you'd complain that the game is dead in a few years
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>>184484735
Not really, I'd just do other things.
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>try playing stargrails on chinkpro
>no ai mode to test out deck
>constantly lose due to shit hands or getting timed out cause i have to think my plays through
>mfw
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>>184486075
Host a game and play against yourself in a 2nd window, set the time limit to 99999.
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>>184486075
>timing out outside of quasar meme or flint lock otk
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>>184486449
thanks anon, that helped a lot

>end on this field on first game of testing
feelsgoodman
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>>184489261
post list, i bought the deck but i havent playtested it or made a list yet because im a retard
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>>184489261
>2 Ib and 1 firewall
You are like little babby. Watch THIS. Glad it helped tho. Does Firewall work for you when not on Chinkmate? I tried to do the combo in this screenshot to record it for a friend and I couldn't activate Firewall's bounce effect.
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>>184489476
hi iron core
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>>184489942
Hello anon.
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>>184489446
this is my decklist. obviously not the best (it's literally a modified list i found off of ygo organization lmao) but it's p good imo

>>184489476
haven't tested firewall on chinkmate, so i don't know. how consistent is that grinder golem deck anyway? it seems pretty crazy
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>>184490152
considering the raw amount of draw power in it, it's not Magical Christmas Land tier, but it does have to draw 2-4 combo pieces and not get it's Akashic Ogre'd.
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>go to generation force sneak peek
>unpack orient dragon
>want to sell it
>go sit next to some group of people
>too anxious to say anything
>leave without saying anything
>tfw still have the damn card sitting somewhere in my drawer

this memory has been haunting me since like 4 years now, just wanted to share it with someone.thanks for subrcibing to my blog
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>>184490359
what's the card between dandylion and burial goods
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>>184490645
>>
Fucking shit Konami, it is too hard to animate other monsters from the card game or just share your IP with somebody like Arc System Works so you can make fighting games yugioh?
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>>184490736
Good god no it would be shit.
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>>184491158
>shit
>with the creators of bb and gg
You what mate?
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>>184491325
>implying those are good games
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>>184491325
>implying they'd care about other mon like gio or from DT and it wouln't be an animeonly fest
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>>184491564
Fuck you too mate
>>184491604
Sure mate. Whathever you say, mate.
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>>184491325
>everything would be either be from DM or be a protag's ace
no
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>>184489476
>Ib
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>>184490736
As much I would love to have Northwemko with an animation and a voice. I have to agree with >>184491758. If something like that happens ever, the chances of being more than just Duel Monsters or Protagonist main monsters, or even having from the card game itself that never appeared in anime, are really, really low.
Also
>>184491564
Rude! But I like to hear why you don't like anime fighting game.
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>>184490736
Or a Capcom fighting game in 2D a la JJBA Heritage of the Future?
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>>184490736
>>184492491
>giving your opposition money
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>>184492491
>capcom konami
vendread confirmed
vania for the "hype" from netflix
both are dlc ofc, along with everything other than anime
bravo
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>>184492491
But that will make only anime/manga characters with their monsters be available.
On second though, that is the most logical thing. I doubt "fans" of Yugioh even care for the card game itself
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>>184493303
>inb4 LK as a announcer
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>>184493967
T-they wouldn't dare right?
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>>184494823
considering they haven't had him do anything yet(?) we can hope
more going off that fan translation to show what they are like
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>>184494823
They put the DBZ abridged guys in a Dragon Ball Kai scene, anything is possible.
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>>184495736
you're right, they even got in xenoverse too
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>>184495208
>>184495736
Bruh.
Kay then, then I just believe that my Northwemko can also be playable.
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>>184495736
>>184495943
I don't believe you
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>>184491758
Much worse would be the fight roster and the terrible balancing.

It'd be like Pokken Tournament except you pick a character and get a roster associated with them.

Team Kaiba
>Obelisk the Tormentor
>Blue-eyes White Dragon
>Vorse Raider
>Saggi the Dark Clown
>Battle Ox
>Kaiser Glider
>Hitotsu ni Giant

Team Yugi
>Slifer the Sky Dragon
>Black Luster Soldier
>Buster Blader
>Dark Magician
>Summoned Skull
>Gaia the Fierce Knight
>Dark Magician Girl

Team Joey
>Gilford the Lightning
>Red-eyes Black Dragon
>Jinzo
>Insect Queen
>Panther Warrior
>Gearfried the Iron Knight
>Baby Dragon
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>>184495943
>>184495736
i hope you guys are ready for le LittleKuriboh references in future games
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>>184496551
Look up Xenoverse Nappa.

In fact, open up and say "ahhh", here comes the airplane.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5fHDE4V3BA

>>184496880
I doubt it, Eric Stuart(Kaiba's VA) doesn't like YGOTAS.

Dan Green and the others like him though.
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>>184496334
didn't we just go over how other than anime char it's extremely low of a chance
even DT and draco would be higher
VAing takes much less work than a whole new fighter

>>184496551
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzdsEsbkbic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9P5TFV8Oq30
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>>184496768
And they will choose Yugi just to fap DMG pantsu frame
DM was a mistake
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Thinking of adding paleos to my Spiral deck. What should I take out to make room for the paleos?
I'm thinking of removing one of the Sea Dragoons due to it's effect barely ever going off and it's abysmal stats
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>>184497275
Just kill yourself. Way too many normal summons. Nothing but brick city.
>>
>>184497275
Get rid of Sea Dragoons, Shell Dragon and Upstart.
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>>184497540
Upstart is the best card in the game you scrub. Literally kill yourself
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>>184497275
Just Vanilla Dinos are better and searchable. Adding Paleozoics is a good idea.
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>>184497620
Fuck you Hoban, I burned a copy of your book that I didn't pay for, and I'm working on photocopying another so I can upload it for anyone to laugh at for free.
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>>184497187
You know, I don't think she was even intended to be used for that much fanservice.

All Kaz wanted was just a cute girl to balance out how many male monsters Yugi had in his deck and it sort of went out of control.
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>>184497041
Dan only due to the charity drive
Honda much prefers being known for Yusei, even more so because of it, and then gets hit with the hurdur bikes
Mai's just taking whatever she can get for attention
Joey already memed it up anyway
>>184497681
got another if needed
>>184497771
intended as parody and blew up against him
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>>184497771
He had Mystic Elf, but I guess he wanted something closer related to the Dark Magician because "muh ace".
>>
>>184497620
>>184497681

>upstart
>not the absolute best card in the game

If you could put any number of cards in your deck than a deck that's nothing but nurse and upstart would be unbeatable. Summon nurse, burn for 1000 with upstart, it replaces itself with another upstart, over and over again. Upstart is the enabler of the greatest and most consistent FTK that only needs 2 cards to work.
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>>184498256

Does the book have advice on how to side out a djinn for a djinn?
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>>184498281
>nurse is at the bottom of the deck
>34 upstart goblins to dig out nurse
>lose the game
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>>184498423
yup
http://articles.alterealitygames.com/book-error/
>>
At this point I am surprised that Konami hasn't maded a Yugioh game that is not a card game. I mean, fucking Pokemon have a "legit" fighting game and Digimon is getting more than anime and tamagotchi.
But then again, Konami has becoming more assholes, they make DLC politicy of Capcom looks like a saint.
They literally killed Arc-V just to seel more blackwing
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>>184498274
>Mystical Elf
What was even the point of this card?

Like did it ever do anything relevant besides be a wall?
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>decide to come back to YGO after 7 years
>have zero cards except some structures I just bought
>have no idea what kind of deck to build

any suggestions for a not complete shit deck between $100-200?
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>>184498424

>gold sarc
>different dimension reincarnation

gg no re
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>>184498753
>like did it ever do anything relevant
Make my dick hard
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>>184498835
ABC is very cheap and will get better in time.

Also Dinos.
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>>184498734
>dugeon dice
>false bound
>capmon
don't do well
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>Add 1 Tuner monster from your Deck to your hand. Then, send a number of cards equal to the Tuner monster's Level from the top of your Deck to the Graveyard.

How broken would this be?
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>>184497771
I can't blame him though. He wanted to try something different. He didn't expect this level of success (kind of) with Dark Magician Girl. Well, I do still like the monsters both Atem and Yugi use (specially the Spellcasters one), so in a sense, he succeded, and besides Spellcasters are among my favourite type of monsters. Still, I wish I can see another Spellcaster getting more relevance, I know, I'm dreaming the impossible but dreaming is free.
>>184498753
I believe she did have an effect in the anime.
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>>184499224
>search and Hand Loli
Let's not.
>>
>Mystical Elf was Yugi's card
>Kaiba uses Gift of the Mystical Elf

What did they mean by this?
>>184499305
I don't see anything on the wikia but in some video game, she could boost the attack of a Blue-eyes by 500.

Makes sense since in the anime she boosted Blue-eyes in order to beat that clown guy.

So why has she never been retrained to gain that effect? Konami can't decide whether to keep as Yugi's card or fully integrate her into Blue-eyes?
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>>184499509
But discarding the cards from the top of your deck is a nice balanced text for the card.
>>
>>184499224
Literally just a better Charge of The Light Brigade if you're searching Raiden. Half a Grass with none of the brick too.
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>>184499696
>In Yu-Gi-Oh! Dark Duel Stories, this card is an Effect Monster that can increase the ATK and DEF of "Blue-Eyes White Dragon" by 500.
>This is based off the unwritten effect of this card in the Duelist Kingdom anime arc.
This was in trivia by the way.
>spoiler
That may change soon
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>>184499709
Lets not pretend milling is a negative for the decks that would probably run that.
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>>184499949
What decks that run ghost lolis benefit from milling? Zoo hates milling
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>>184499995
Missed TWO gets by 4-5 posts, fuck me right?
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>>184500071
literally kill youself numeral autistic bitch
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>>184500071
One day the GETs will shine upon /dng/
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>>184500334
fuck off numeral autist punk jagoff
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