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>Monster Hunter: World
-MH:World revealed for PS4 and Xbox One early 2018, and eventually PC. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xe-RAeDfOMM
↳Information with sources: https://pastebin.com/TRFRGFn1
↳Weapon Intros: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_ALSpmx2A8sAdeuYKMnrCt0xCpwPyPbC
↳Gameplay 7/24: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGMrgDM7Fco#t=26m10s

>News
-Monster Hunter XX Nintendo Switch Ver. confirmed for 8/25 in Japan, region free. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CvzTD_RYDXs
↳No current plans for XX localization "at this time". https://twitter.com/monsterhunter/status/875133030326652928
-Monster Hunter Stories due for a 9/8 release in EU, Q4 NA.

>I have a question!
https://pastebin.com/7Aa6HxUh
Includes links to the FAQ, weapon guides, charm info, and more.

http://mhgen.kiranico.com/
Database with weapon trees, item locations, drop rates, etc.

https://sites.google.com/site/pingsdex
Same thing, in application form.

>Where does /vg/ play?
Create or find a Gathering Hall
Passcode: 7243
In XX, ターグット: Gathering フィールド採集 (page 1, middle right)
In Generations, Objective: Gathering
In 4U, Target: Fishing

Tags: MHWorld, MHXX, MHGen, MH4U, MH3U, Stories, MHO, MonHun, /mhg/

Previous thread >>184193163
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Reminder that Rathalos is NOT A KEK, he is the king of the skies, and you tiny monkeys don't know anything
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>>184317872
kek of the skies, rathaloser
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Don't bully newfriends, /mhg/!
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Been replaying MH4U today, I had forgotten just how good:
a) 60(ishmostly) FPS is
b) the monster introduction cutscenes, holy shit those transitions, and the caravan hunter is a fucking badass with all those expertly timed dodges and climbing shit into mounts
c) having an actual narrative rather than the long, unpausing 'errrrrrrrrrrr' of Gen (yes I know most people just ignore it, but it gives some sense of place and meaning to the quests rather than them just being quests)

I completely remembered how bad having to press A for every long, long gathering animation was. Why didn't they add holding A earlier.
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>>184318352
You meant mostly 45fps when soloing against low rank monsters.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0sZJyCArfg
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>>184318352
On the other hand 3U and 4U had the ability to press A to instantly scroll text or B to skip it, so I have to wonder why XXX didn't.
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>>184318475
What I mean is 'more than 30fps'. Anyway, I can't decide on what weapon to use.

http://www.strawpoll.me/13574435
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>Doing the 4U G2 quest where you hunt both an Azure Rathalos and a Tigrex
>Cut off Rath's tail
>Got a Rathalos Mantle
What do I use this for?
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>>184318763
mantling
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>>184318763
Well its a grank gem, what do you think. Besides the obvious armour and weapons, you can trade it for lagi mantles at the wycoon if you need those.
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>>184318763
Use it to make the best glaive.
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>>184318352
>I completely remembered how bad having to press A for every long, long gathering animation was. Why didn't they add holding A earlier
I actually completely forgot about having to keep pressing A and it's why I'm stalling on my new 4U file.
I don't get how the 4U team could know instinctively that Vouchers have no reason to be placed into your item pouch, but it's good design to make players keep pressing A.
Meanwhile, the Gen team is like, pressing A continuously to carve/gather is dumb, but why don't you take this Gourmet Voucher with you on your quest, I'm sure it'll come in handy.

Two steps forward, one step back with these people...
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>>184318763
rathalos greaves x has edgemaster+3 for clowning purposes, and it needs the mantle.
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What's the best thing I should be looking for in a HBG charm in XX? Attack, pierce up?
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>>184319297
For adept or brave cheating?
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Which weapon entertains you the most, and why is it this one?
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>>184319393
I've only just swapped to XX, but presumably brave since I've heard it's even more retarded than adept.
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>>184319478
On most weapons, yes, Brave is utterly broken.
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>>184319405
Because of THIS
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>>184319405
Mein nigger it gots the dps, it has the reach, it has the badass animation, it can cut tails in a flash, it has everything. Fellow hunters, why aren't you MAINING the best weapon yet?
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>>184319793
Someday I wish GE can afford these expensive animation. Then people wouldn't make fun of it. People only accept anime when it's realistic expensive anime.
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>>184319405
>>184319793
>>184319863
It just doesn't FEEL like 'my' weapon.

>>184320007
>any japanese dev but capcom or squeenix
>budget
do ho ho
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>>184320007
If Frontier had budget, it could afford to render realistic airdashing like this one. Maybe people wouldnt make fun of it.
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>>184319708
>On most weapons

>Weapons with a strong Brave style:
HBG, LS, GS, SA, Bow, Hammer.
>Weapons with a decent Brave style:
DB, IG, HH, GL, CB.
>Weapons with a trash Brave style:
SnS, Lance, LBG.
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>>184320057
The key to big budget titles is just simultaneous worldwide release. For example Code Vein is pretty anime but it's more realistic anime and people eat it up. But GE wouldn't be "weighty" all of a sudden with more expensive animation because it goes against their formula, but it will be more fluid at least.

>>184320227
This too. Although the zenith style air dashes are much more realistic.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DlTTRlY7-E
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Why was every version of 3 basically a whole different game with mostly the same monsters
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>>184320598
MH3G is the G rank version of MH3. MHP3 is the Portable spinoff of MH3.
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>>184320598
But they introduce new monsters that look anime but are still AnimalPlanet-core regardless
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>>184320646
Yes, I am aware
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>>184319863
Because I can't guard with it and it has too few moves.
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>>184320849
Welcome to Monster Hunter. That's how the formula works.
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>>184320897
But the other generations weren't radically different between versions
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>>184321028
Example?
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>>184321158
1 to 1G
F2 to FU
4 to 4G
X to XX
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>>184321238
What's so radical about MH3 to MH3G?
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>>184321259
Dropping everything that made Tri unique, but you wouldn't know.
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>>184321158
3U completely replaced loc lac city
portable 3rd completely replaced moga village
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>>184321327
I wouldn't care either, but that sounds too semantic to be of any argument.
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>>184321361
Both were shit anyway.
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>>184321378
>>184321408

Fuck off.
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>>184321408
>Loc Lac
>Shit
>Worse than Port Tanzia
ok
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>>184321361
3U replaced Amatsu with Miralis
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>>184321361
MHP3 as was mentioned is the Portable spinoff to MH3.
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If P3 is a spinoff then how come no mainline ever beat it in sales? Checkmate.
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>>184321528
P3 replaced Ceadeus with Amatsu
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>>184321427
>triggered tribaby
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>>184321651
It's still mainline, just not a numbered title.
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>>184321537
When has any of the portable series been that radically different from the main game
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>>184321691
3U replaced Ceadeus with... wait
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>>184321786
F2/FU
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>it's a tricuck still triggered over losing loc lac episode
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>>184321786
MHP2
MHX, which for obvious reasons was not called Portable 4th
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>>184321873
I've never even played Tri
It's just objectively better
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Kinship between monsters
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>4U
>Gravios and Black Gravios are both key quests in G2
I'll be happy if I never see any of these guys ever again.
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>>184322635
You'll meet Apex Gravios soon enough
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>>184322635
Spit on them, they'll dissolve
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=so8auTG_oEM
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>>184321786
F1 is amputed G
F2/FU are very different from dos
3U takes from both tri and P3rd
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Threadly reminder
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>>184321327
>But you wouldn't know
You're absolutely cancer to this thread.
Yes, Tri had some neato little things that made it unique. It also has some not-so neato little things that made it one of the lesser MH titles.

t. spent over 2000 hours on Tri.
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>>184324332
Like not enough content and that's it.
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>>184323619
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>>184323619
I don't think there'll be new weapons. The current ones are pretty significantly changed up from previous iterations, and they're putting it all into a new engine with new animations and stuff. If there ARE two new weapons, then butter up those poopers because that probably means World's going to have an insane amount of content. Or all their manpower went into the weapons and there'll be no content at all.

Bet you anything if there were new weapons they'd be as OP as CB/IG from 4U.
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Underwater was terrible and I'm glad it will never be back.
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>>184323619
there's the boomerang and hunting hound, but I really don't think they'd make new weapons just to fill in those gaps. would love to get proven wrong, though.
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>>184324523
Literally lazy bullshit for faggots who don't play video games
This meme is pure cancer
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>>184324795
Those were shitty ideas the XXX team came up with
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>Beat low rank village in 3U
>Check quest list to see what stuff's in high rank
>Not a lot of exciting fights
>Have to beat every quest to unlock alatreon
>Hub quests feature dickloads of multi-monster fights
>Lose all motivation to play
eh, guess I'll just wait for World
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>>184323108
>Older MH games were known for being almost cartoonish
"muh anime"
:^)
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>>184324795
There are more weapon ideas from MH1 still

>>184324768
>insane amount of content
It's just par for the course of a new generation.
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>>184325259
You did not even play 25% of the game and you already give up?
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>>184325283
Look at that cartoon
Meanwhile Zinogre is hyper realisitic
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>have a "good" charm
>don't want to farm out sets that'll just become invalidated later
Charms really were a mistake
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>>184325259
>Not a lot of exciting fights
???
Zinogre, Lagiacrus, Diablos, Barioth, Rathalos, Nargacuga, Duramboros, Agnaktor, Brachydios? Are none of those exciting to you?
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>>184325451
It's almost like we've been in an anime all along!
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>>184325283
Yes, because fighting big, colorful monsters is realistic
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>>184325259
But you meet the best monsters in high rank
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>>184323108
>using "older monster hunter games" to refer to 4/4U/Gen/XX
this nigger
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>>184325663
Not really
Also I've fought all of those in 4/xXx, only new things would be some subspecies, of which I'd only be interested in the Lagis
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>>184317872
He also doesn't like seafood
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>>184326215
Wow guys being racist is not cool, seriously, I've only been here for 2 months but I would really like it if we all just stopped being racist and followed the format of reddit.

The community is so toxic I really think that minorities or LGBTQ communities would be offended by this site.

Together guys we can change the narrative and be more inclusive.

FOR THE CHAN!!!!
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>>184326861
Well, I certainly would applaud anyone wanting to post 100 copypastas, but take it from this old /mhg/ rat, I've spent my entire adult life shitting up Monster Hunter Generals, and a program like this one can do more harm than good.

If you only train one part of your shitposting (and that's all a single method like pasta is going to do for you), you're setting yourself up for injuries down the road. I've seen it a hundred times.

It's like putting a powerful engine in a stock Toyota Tercel. What will you accomplish? You'll blow out the drive train, the clutch, the transmission, etc., because those factory parts aren't designed to handle the power of an engine much more powerful than the factory installed engine.

Copypasta basically only trains the spamming and to some extent, the attention whoring. What you really want to do is train your entire shitposts, all the major post groups (b8ing, memespamming, circlejerking and ERPing) at the same time, over the course of a thread. And don't forget your ban-dodging work!

I'm proud of you guys wanting to do this. Three cheers! Falling in love with shitposting, ruining threads right, etc., is one of the greatest things you can do for yourself. And you WILL fall in love with it if you can just force yourself to stick with it a year or two and experience the amazing progress you'll make.
But do it right, okay?

My advice, find a good shitposter, with a name and tripcode who will design your posts for you (especially in the beginning, until you get the hang of it yourself) and guide you in your quest for destroying good discussion. Thirty to 45 minutes a day, three days a week, is all you'll ever need to do (I refuse to believe anyone is so busy that he or she cannot make time for that, especially considering how important it is).
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>>184324769
While I agree, apart from gobul, underwater monsters were really cool. Especially Ceadeus, I love him.
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What's at the top of the tree?
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>>184327836
eggs
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>>184327836
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>>184327836
rathalos
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>>184327836
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>>184328063
While Rathalos' nest is at the very top of the level based on the map, the level doesn't go all the up until the top of the tree, only until the top of the roots.
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>>184327836
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>>184328817
yeah but there's just more rathalos on top of the tree
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>>184329225
Which he shares with howling zinogre and diorex
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>>184327836
Raths fucking. No really.
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>>184327836
Mew
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>G2 Black Gravios quest
>Cart twice
>Manage to survive the rest and kill him
FUCK YOU NIGGER
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>>184318691
you should have made it with multiple choices,
my answer to your strawpoll would be GS/Lance/SnS
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>>184330125
Surely one of those must be the MOST patrician. Like, if someone had the materials to make a single one of them, which would you say it should be?
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>>184324768
>Or all their manpower went into the weapons and there'll be no content at all.
Capcom stated in an interview that World will have the largest amount of content out of any MH game, and that there will be plenty of returning monsters.
It's not a Tri esque reboot at all.
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>>184330445
Capcom said SFV would be good. Let's not rush to believe them.
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Why couldn't they keep the brave style shield bash for MHW Lance? That move is so much fun to use
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>>184330445
>Capcom stated in an interview that World will have the largest amount of content out of any MH game
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>>184330581
I wouldn't be surprised if it at least had the most playable space due to the map size increases
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>>184318691
i can't believe on 6 votes (ded thread) there are two idiots who believe CB and SA are patrician weapons
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>>184330724
Time and time again Capcom has shown that they can't be trusted, I don't know why people still have such a great amount of faith in them. I'm looking forward to World, but I'm not getting my hopes up.
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>>184330549
Too frontier

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TrRwXRnHpAQ
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>>184330790
I can believe CB. SA is probably a troll.
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>>184329021
I want to see Rathalos and Seregios making peace
through love!
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>>184331823
It would be an interesting turn of events.
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why do people bully the longsword and its users
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>>184327836
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>>184332212
Is this 2006?
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>>184331912
This.. kinda makes sense

I'm down with this
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>>184317576
Why no Monster Hunter Switch for not-japan?

Cmon it can't sell THAT badly here.
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>>184319405
Hunting Horn.
Cause I love to setup my buff singing bashes to do legit good hits.

Also I remember back in Monster Hunter Freedom2 when it first came out, you could stay in music mode and you constantly swing from note to note.
Every time I got a new horn, I'd go to an aerna full of velociprey types and only fight the whole match playing music. Killing them with my note change swings and finding out what music combos worked.
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>>184323619
You know what would be cool?
A sling and shield. A range weapon that slings shots, can be charged up, and leaves you able to block with a shield like in sword and shield.
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>>184337014
>literally SnS in World
its the sling weapon now
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>>184324769
Idk I kinda liked the three dimensional fighting of it.
To be able to dodge by going up or down, to be slower but so was the enemy so more time to react.
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>>184325283
That's not even close to true though. MH1 and 2's pallet was washed out as fuck.
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>>184337131
>tfw you'll be able to go Sling'n'torch
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>>184338241
The sling does that too now
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>>184338331
aw
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For new weapons, I think a flail would be cool.
I just hope that when they do innevitably add new weapons as DLC or whatever, it's something generic like that rather than more weirdly specific shit like IG.

I honestly wouldn't mind a spell tome 'mage' weapon either
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>>184339118
I just want bloody tonfas.
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>>184339118
yoyo please
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>>184339313
But World has not blood :^)
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>>184339118
>We will never get that bone staff that uses paper armor
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>>184339118
I want a new blunt weapon, something fast like a SnS maybe. That'd be cool.

I've had this idea for a while of another music based weapon that's like a big drum as a bouncy shield with a drumstick mace in the other hand.
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only took 43 episodes to have a thumbs up
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>>184340760
Go away avatarfag
Nobody likes you or your gay fat fetish cat
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Whats the best rank grimclaw to hunt for gold crowns in gen? I've killed 52 of the fuckers and only got my large silver.
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>>184340907
make me
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>>184340435
Ocarina Mace>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>your shitty idea
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>>184330507
To be fair MHW is running on MT Framework.

That already gives it a better chance of being good.
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>draw funny comic about monster hunter
>people have already stolen it and reposted in on ifunny
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>>184339118
>>184340435
My idea for a new weapon is kinda halfway between these two.

I'm picturing a giant censer which would be swung around like a meteor hammer and could be bladed for cutting damage or blunt for KO damage depending on the weapon tree (or perhaps every instance of the weapon has retractable blades such that it can switch on the fly).

The incense would buff team mates like the hunting horn, but instead of being baked into the weapon itself, would function as a separate item like bow coatings/sword oil. The effects would start relatively weak (AuS, for instance) but get stronger the more aggressively you play (AuL). Kind of like the gunlance damage meter, except it wouldn't reset upon maxing out and the energy(?) would decay rather rapidly if you are not hitting the monster. Similar to the tonfa I'm told, but I've never used it.
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>>184344949
I love this weapon so much and it would fit really well in the monhun universe I feel. I think it should stick to blunt since theres literally only one other blunt weapon.
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>>184328016
NO MORE GAMES
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>>184345427
hammer/horn
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>>184344949
Something like a flail or whip I definitely wouldn't mind seeing as a new weapon.
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>brave bow gets 2 powershots
>in guild + haphazard you get an average of 10% damage increase if you always do your powershot, for a 5slot skill.
>brave gets a 16% damage increase.
ayy
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>>184344949
>does a move similair to super AED
>super toxic incense blast
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>>184344949
>>184341613
>>184340435
>wanting more gimmick weapons
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>>184344928
post it
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>>184346078
I feel like if you were gonna do that, it would be an ultra buff for your team, rather than an especially damaging effect, but you could go either way

>>184346163
Nah, just more fun and creative weapons. If you want realism you should probably be playing call of duty or something.
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>>184346163
MH team is way past the point of making weapons for brainlets, you know. Been like that for many years now.
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>>184346468
Are you implying that simple weapons like Lance and Greatsword are realistic?
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>>184344949
this is cool, but it wont happen

enjoy your slash switch gun charge axe
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>>184346758
No. But they are boring
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>>184344949
Someone get this to Capcom ffs
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post your greatfu anons
plus points if it's /aesthetic/
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>>184344949
Hmm, this makes me think, is there a canon religion in the monster hunter universe? Censers are typically used for religious purposes, so it would make more sense if the weapon was adapted from their stuff.
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>>184340760
Aria...
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>>184346758
What's the point of having more simple weapons ? They'd be overlapping withe the already great simple weapons.
If you're gonna have a new weapon it needs to add something new to the table.

>>184344949
Wat's with censers being more popular than drums. I thought my idea was cool.
I can definitely see how that fits through, with the hunter swinging the ball around him like a dance. Plus that's easily adaptable to a bunch of different designs.
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If i play LBG will you all make fun of me?
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>>184348831
We're already making fun out of your shitty waifu picks.
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>>184346193
the tetsu comic, already in this thread
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>>184347007
>not maining the Slash Switch Gun Charge Axe

brainlet detected
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>>184348483
>If you're gonna have a new weapon it needs to add something new to the table.
A flail/ ball and chain would bring something new to the table. I don't mind something like that censer idea or IG, but I feel like, on their own, they bring too much new to the table, if that makes sense. They just come across as dissonant with the rest of the weapon 'cast'. Like hunting horn exists as a specialization of regular hammer, and gunlance exists as a specialization of regular lance, there should be a simple polearm option alongside IG (like are you not allowed to just use a staff in the monster hunter universe without also carrying a robotic beetle?), and a simple flail/ ball and chain alongside censer.

/autism, I know, but I felt like the games kept this sort of themeing pretty consistent until relatively recently.
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Haven't mained Hunting Horn in decade, what the fuck happened to it?
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>>184349720
It's not shit anymore
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>>184330445
how many times does capcom have to do fuck up and do something stupid before people stop trusting them?
all it took for konami was firing kojima
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>>184344949
My hand slipped
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So GS is going to be the only relevant weapon in World, right?
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>>184350335
As did your rotate tool.
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>>184344949
And again...
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>>184350335
Good effort. But I conceived of it more along these lines. A bit harder to animate for sure, but more interesting imo, and it opens up more possibilities for ranged attacks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=499Aiwh_If0
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>>184350526
Yeah 4chan mobile fucks with every photo I take unless I manually rotate it in photos
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>>184350537
>Gobul
>implying we'll ever see that piece of shit again
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>>184349995
I miss when it was a hammer that traded charge attacks for skills. Looks like I'm going to have to relearn how to use it.
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>>184326801
I dunno man i get the impression you play for different reasons than most people. I just like fightin monsters.
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>>184350714
Hey it was a great monster!
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>40 minutes of shooting a Tigrex in the head just for a small monster to hit me once into a cart
>Run all the way back and the exact same thing happens

HBG isn't worth it
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>>184351345
>HBG
>40 minutes

huh
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>>184350639
Huh, i've seen that. I guess my only problem is thatit seems a little "flimsy" for a MH weapon. Even the dual blades have some heft to their design. I could probably make the handle a little smaller.
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>>184351682
Well that's because it's a ball and chain. But picture the censer as about 1.5x larger than the ball in the video, and decked out in rathalos scales/spikes. Or a duramboros tail, heh.
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>>184351525
Idk. I'm using what /mhg/ told me to, and I'm shooting the Btigrex in the head and neck from crit distance ever single opening I'm given, so after every attack. I even laid some traps out, and went in to siege mode and unloaded. Crafted about 208 more Lvl2 and hit him with almost all of them. Dude didn't even limp. Unless there's something I don't know about it, then I don't know what else to do. At most it takes me 10-15 minutes with every other weapon I know. This is 4U, also and I don't know if that matters.
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>>184351959
Nice. Might as well post some of my pics about the Hunting mount, my own personal weapon idea. Think the glaive, but it's if the Kinsect was the main focus.
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>>184350639
That's great, exacly how I pictured it. Shouldn't there be something at the other end of the chain through. Is it fixed on the armor ? Or is there another smaler counterweight ball ? Something else ?
Tell me everything anon, my dad works for Capcom.
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>>184352121
God damn rotation...

Anyways, the actual mounts themselves will never be super ridiculous. It'll mostly consists of the Great/Dromes, some large hrbivores, and charging monster like Anteka, Bulldrome, and Rhenoplos.

Each having their own unique attacks
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>>184352016
>Lvl2
uh oh
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>>184352238
It has a small handle on the other end of the chain (you can see it in the original picture), but you could also do a duplicate ball. Generally you would just wrap the chain around one hand/elbow and use the other hand to swing the ball.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SxPO6nwQvxY
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>>184352376
That's what everyone told me to use, here.
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>>184352369
Also feeding them kibble is a big part, much like feeding kinsects nectar. After certain levels, you can power up their core abilties.

Also you can upgrade both the saddle and hatchet individually for tons of customization. The saddle mostly offers resistances, and the hatchet for secondary damage.
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>>184352369
>>184352121
Anon, that's already a thing, where have you been.
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>>184352121
>>184352369
>>184352603
might be cooler if it was more a hunting dog type thing as opposed to a mount. I'm having a hard time picturing running around some of the maps on "horse"back
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>>184351959
I like the giant flail better than another fast weapon
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>>184352730
Well, this would be that idea from stories if it was actually a practical idea in the mainline
>>184352767
Yeah, i had the idea that the monster would be off to the side when running around and gathering, but you blow a whistle and you hop onto the mount for combat.
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Anybody want to farm kushala on 4u?
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>>184352913
I agree with this, considering that the average head size of hammers and hunting horns in MH is like the same size as a hunters entire torso, I'd imagine the ball of a ball and chain type thing would be pretty large as well.
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>>184352913
There's more slow weapons than fast weapons

>fast
Sns, db, ig, ls (kind of but not really)

>slow
gs, h, hh, l, gl, sa, cb
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>>184352952
Sure, might not be high enough though.
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>>184353208
>Lance, Gunlance
>slow
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>>184352952
>4U
cringe
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>>184353507
Would you run elements/status on a lance? Also, they're the slowest/most restricted mobility wise by far
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>>184353208
Besides Greatsword and Hammer, all of those are more of a medium speed.
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MHWorld?
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>>184353759
Yeah I would run element and status on Lance.
And please don't mix attack speed with movement speed.
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>>184353208
>gs
>hammer
>slow
On what fucking planet? You spend most of the time sheathed which gives you access to running and superdive. And hammer keeps full walk speed while unsheathed, puts in on par with other fast weapons.
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>>184353956
It's different from the MHS ones, but it's most likely going to be for XX since that's getting a Switch version that can crossplay with the 3DS version.
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>>184354363
attack speed dongus
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>>184353759
Lance was pure raw in 4U as well as XX, so no
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>get in room with randoms
>everyone wants to go for the head

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE FUCK OFF THE HEAD IS MINE
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>>184354447
>pure raw in 4U
Yeah, and DB uses charge attacks and should avoid Element.
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>>184354412
That's still wrong, I don't play much DB but pretty fucking sure one of its moves roots you in place longer than a gs unsheathe and probably even a hammer superpound.
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>>184354843
Yes, and when you do that move you attack something like 20+ times as opposed to the one attack for a greatsword. Stop making a fool out of yourself, you're literally arguing GS and DB have the same attack speed
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>>184352591
Depends if you're normal gunning or pierce. L2 is the best normal shot wheareas pierce works best with L1. (Pierce L1&2 have equal damage in X/XX IIRC, but 2 has it spread along more hits or something)
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>>184353465
My internet went out and it's all finicky now, sorry mate
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>>184347487
What is it anon? Have some donuts to share?
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>>184354961
Stop being a fagtron, bitch boy. "fast weapon" could mean fucking anything from movespeed to attack animation lock to number of hits per second, not my fault you don't know how to properly express yourself.
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>>184355487
and in literally every one of those metrics, db is faster than gs

neck yourself
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>>184352952
So, are you going to post a room or what?
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>>184354514
YOU KNOW WHAT YOU SHOULD DO GET THEM OUTTA YOUR WAY
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>>184355605
>db
>moves as fast as gs
>when gs is almost always sheathed
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>>184356505
>he hasn't played xx
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>>184354989
So with B Tigrex stick with 2 Normal? I don't seem to be doing any damage at all.
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how do you play brave hammer properly?
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>>184355314
Donuts!
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charge blade phials are fixed damage that scale with raw right? Anyone know the numbers on that? trying to see how much damage each of my little explosion things does
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>>184357879
Just b urself
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>>184357707
I would but pierce is a little better on Brute than regular Tigrex because his back takes more damage so you could try using a pierce gun and try to shoot through his head, back and back leg. Tigrex was a wall for me with HBG so don't get too disheartened. He's much easier with bow because of the extra mobility. I would also recommend trying it with your limiter removed.
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>>184357879
1. Get into brave
2. Spam R
Thats fucking it.


have in mind:

MV/KO/EXH

Brave Cancel (X while sheathing) = 70/40/10
Brave Cancel (A while sheathing) = 15/22/5
Charge lv. 1 Side Swing = 25/15/15 (the 1st level of the first charge combo)
Charge lv. 2 Uppercut = 40/35/10 (the 2nd level of the first charge combos)
Charge lv. 3 Uppercut = 45/35/10 (the 1st level of the second charge combo)
Charge lv. 4 Super Uppercut = 65/45/15 (the 2nd level of the second charge combo)
Charge lv. 5 Super Pound = 15+80/10+50/5+25 (the 1st level of the third charge combo)
Charge lv. 6 Mega Pound = 20+105/10+60/5+30 (the 2nd level of the third charge combo)
Jump Charge lv. 2-3 = 75/45/10
Jump Charge lv. 4 = 80/45/10
Jump Charge lv. 5 = 90/50/10
Jump Charge lv. 6 = 100/50/10

Just Spam fast R Charges, only charge the 2nd levels if you already started the combo and can't release during the first charge.

Equip the new Hammer HA for free 50-60KO per combo.
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>>184359006
Sorry, the only 2nd charge level you should get is the first R press.
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>>184359006
Wow, thanks. Any chance you have lists like that for other weapons? Or a link to whatever site does have them?
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>>184358868
I'll give it a shot, but damage seems to be my issue, not getting hit. Hopefully pierce will help me out
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>>184359193
Reddit is ok sometimes, and only sometimes: https://www.reddit.com/r/MonsterHunter/comments/683a5t/selected_info_from_mhxx_official_famitsu_guidebook/

And no, I autism'd that because I use hammer.
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What skills do I use for HH in XX? I want a new weapon to learn and I'm trying to work off of the 4U HH guide in the pastebin, thing is some searching on google finds me people saying brave makes maestro unnecessary and stuff.
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>>184324769
t. sns main who doesnt use every weapon
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>Hunting Horn is now more fun than ever with styles and double notes
>still only see other HH users about once every 50 hours

What the fuck is wrong with people?
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>>184359542
It may be more fun than ever but it's still the least fun weapon of them all.
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newfag here, I dont like the constant meowing of the palicos. How much of a disadvantage would i have if i never brought them to hunts?
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>>184319405
I could never go back to regular Switch Axe after playing with Frontier's Switch Axe. It's that good.
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>>184359542
I've been playing 4U online for the past month and I've yet to see a single HH user.
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>>184360079
you trade the occasional horn/trap for a more predictable monster, as they're going to be focusing on you the entire fight. Which also means you might have less chances to heal, sharpen, etc.

They might be nice when you're starting, but after a while it gets extremely exhausting to have your cats pull the monster to the other side of the area constantly. Why the fuck are they even over there?
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>>184360079
Palicoes with the right moves and skills can be pretty useful but they are not necessary at all.
Alternatively, you could get them DLC gear that changes the meowing to other (hopefully) less annoying sounds.
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>>184360223
A good one is really nice to have but the playstyle turns people off. It's a lot to deal with keeping buffs up.
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>>184360079
the only cats that are really any good are thief ones because they can get you free items, but i dont think you have access to those as a noob anyway. otherwise theyre just annoying and can teach you bad habits (like relying on them for heals)
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>>184358183
Now that's a cute picture.
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>>184355314
sho me ur.....
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>>184359542
My man what shit are you using? It looks interesting and I'm trying to get into it but there's no guide for it for X or XX
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>>184360740
just made it to g3 in 4u boys

stygian and brachy quest was aids

tigrex and azurath was also aids

black diablos is somehow easier than regular

chaotic gore had too much fucking health

time to continue levelling my bugstick relic farming guild quest

like and subscribe
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>>184361217
didnt mean to quote
>>
Just got to G1 in 4U. Is about 500 defense enough to solo it without having to worry about getting OHKO'd by everything?
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i want to marry a qurupeco
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>tfw made Barroth X set gemmed up for Gaurd+2, Guard Up, AuL, Bind Res and RS for use with the Garuga Lance
I know it's not the most optimal set but I find myself using fullsets more in XX, it's comfy
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>>184361124
I'm using Aerial Style; I like how easy in makes it to build up songs since you can play 2 notes very quickly during a jumping attack.
As for the Hunting Horns themselves, I'm still working on my collection but I use 3:

Daora's Baphophone mostly for the Negate Stamina use L, but the Attack and Defense boost is decent if you play the encore.

Black Lute for Attack boost L and HG earplugs (if you play the encore)
I know this one is not that great but it just looks fucking rad, I love it. I coupled it with Blunt skill and it's not amazing but it gets the job done.

Nightfall Horn for both Attack and Defense boost L and the occasional healing. Natural white sharpness and decent affinity.

I'm looking for a new Horn that is not redundant with the ones I already have but haven't found it yet.

As for Hunter Arts I like Harmonize III since it helps a lot with keeping the songs up. I do like to gem in Maestro because it makes the long songs even longer but I haven't tried playing without it yet, might not even be that necessary any more.

I don't consider myself particularly good with the weapon but I hope some of that info proves useful m8, good luck.
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>>184362230
That's awful advice, the only good style is Guild and double notes make Maestro redundant as for weapon, Akantor is the best by far.
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>>184362109
not like the best set in XX isnt a full set

also, transmog
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>Playing through P3RD
>Notice Nargacuga defaults to the default rath wyvern turning animation when you initially enter the area and just before before it enters rage mode
And I thought they were using a new skeleton for it given that it moves completely differently from a rath
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>>184362534
Recommending a single Hunting Horn is pretty awful advice too, the whole point of the weapon is that it can help a lot against specific monsters but no single Horn is able to do everything.
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>>184362542
Yeah I know. I've used full Ceana X, full Dreadqueen and full Barroth X so far. Fuck optimal builds
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>>184353465
Smoke more.
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>>184362703
It's pretty much all you need though.
There's Tigrex and HGE and that's pretty much it, also, all its arts suck.
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>>184362690
It can still be a different skeleton, simply one that the rath turn translates easily to.
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>>184363315
thats not how skeletons work.
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>>184362690
Narga uses the same skeleton as Tigrex.
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>>184363990
and tigrex uses the flying wyvern skeleton.
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>>184362534
>the only good style is Guild
does brave bring anything new to the table for it in XX?
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>>184362534
>the only good style is Guild

How so?
>>
Playing 4U, G1

67-5127-4479-9704
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>>184359317
You don't need Maestro at all. It's just a crutch skill really.

A good HH would just be any other blademaster set. I play Guild HH, so I gemed in evasion +1 to stay up in there. Besides that it's just like my other BM sets.
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>>184365169
Nothing
>>184365389
Other styles fuck it and block it from double absolute, striker removes its best moves.
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>>184360429
SHWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>
What's the best style for DB?
>>
Anyone wanna farm mantis? Room is up.
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>>184368710
Adept and Brave
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>>184368710
Striker
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>>184368710
Guild and Aerical specifically
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>>184367362
What about alchemy?
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>>184369261
lol
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>>184368710
Alchemy is pretty good
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>>184369298
No, for real. Alchemy hammer is good because it doesn't lose anything (besides linking attacks with R), but it gets 3 HA slots. I sure hope you weren't thinking about actually using the barrels.

Now that I think about it though, it's not like HH has any good HAs to make use of.
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>>184368710
Earth.
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>>184369607
Yeah, but he's asking about HH, not Hammer. And Hammer loses a bunch of R strings.
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Can I play CB without knowing how to GP?
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>>184367532
HRROOOOOOOOW
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>>184368741
Why not just join a gook mantis farming room?
Fuck that shit.
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>>184370021
Yes, but I'm wondering if HH is similar. Hammer loses nothing important. It still has the uppercut and the golfswing. R linking is very situational.
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>>184370031
You can you just won't be able to be good with it.
>>
anyone playing 4U?
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>>184370178
It's not, use it or watch a video of it, it's useless and strictly worse than Guild.
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>>184370031
Yeah sure.
But you can GP with the same button that you do kick.
Also, you can configure for do that with the start button.
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>>184370173
because I cant read moon runes
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>>184370215
Post room. I can play for 30 min or so.
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>>184318352
4u cutscene formula:
>hunter walks into area
>hunter is blissfully unaware of monster
>hunter starts rummaging around in shit while the monster stalks them
>monster attacks!
>hunter dodges by the skin of their teeth
>monster roars
>exit cutscene
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>>184370647
Still better than the shitty """cutscenes""" that Gen did.
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>>184370376
>he can't fucking search the wiki to get the jap name
アトラル・カ

The 2nd option on the first page is to search by monster.
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>>184370647
XX/X cutscene formula
>hunter walks into area
>camera breaks off its hinges and flies toward the monster
>monster strikes a retarded pose, ZA WARUDO
>monster name appears in the air in comic sans
>>
>Judging a game on the monster intro cinematics
Litterally Uncharted 4 audience
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>>184371174
nah, i judge X/XX on it's gameplay and content, which is worse than dog shit.
>>
NOT AN ARGUMENT
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>>184327836
i want to explore the sandy plains tree
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Bros, which style will let me play SA like it was back in the Kino days of Tri and 3U, with Evade up and Evasion+2 and using both modes?
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>>184371693
Striker no arts
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>>184370918
>>184371039
i just think it's kinda retarded that most of the cutscenes are the hunter acting like a dumbass
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>>184371693
>>184372316
and silverwind set
and silverwind axe so you can pretend it's memezar's
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>>184370647

At least it's not Souls cutscene

>player touches shit
>shit happens
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>>184372316
>>184372739
Why striker over Guild?
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>>184372813
no retarded double horizontal slash
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>>184372813
AR+DR+EC
>>184372972
That's actually a great move.
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>>184373020
Doesn't that require the use of Sword mode exclusively? I wanted to use both modes
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I'll buy XX for switch and no one will stop me!
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>get into a hub
>start quest
>a player carts
>2 players quit
>I'm playing the horn and the guy left is using the bow
>mfw
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>>184373129
You should buy 8 pizzas instead.
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>>184327836
>>184371546
What a large tree...
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>>184373129
>Shitch
lmao, XX is coming to PS4 after World releases.
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>>184373020
It's so damn slow and awkward though. And wasn't in third gen anyway.
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>>184373146
>1 melee and 1 range

Don't see a problem, it's the perfect online team for hunting.
>>
From previous thread.

Please help me decide which Nintendo DS should I buy, mainly for playing MH (also some others guy, the last Nintendo console I owned was SNES in 1990s).

So after asking anons and doing some research the decision is basically between
>Old 3DS
or
>New 2DS XL

I don't care about 3D and want to emulate games and have a convenient gaming experience (I'm a big guy with big hands).
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>>184373249
if you want axe mode that isn't total garbage, you'll need switch axe F
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>>184373146
I sometimes do that because it's too embarrassing to face the other people. Especially when you cart to a stupid monster.
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>>184373578
Anything but be sure to buy the XL one. Bigger is better.
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>>184373770
I see that New 2DS XL was released recently, is it possible to emulate games on it?
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>>184373578
Same guy shilling N2DSXL from last thread.
The bigger screen size means bigger pixels, but that also means you dont have to squeeze the thing up to your face. Today I got some grips from Amazon. No circle pad but you got the C-litoris for that. I've noticed that the Cnub tends to stick after a while of playing but goes back to normal after a break so maybe its sweat. The grips make is almost as comfortable as a console controller but maybe your hands find it better than mine. The thing is really darn cheap at 150 +tax and I spent 11 dollars on a grip. The other dude is right that New 3DS and XL hardware is kind of a ripoff. o3DS w/ CCP seems to fit most people's hands well enough. The N2DS has the New hardware so games run just slightly better. No word on how hackable it is yet. If comfort is your goal, get the N2ds. Get the o3DS if you care about hacking or screen fidelity.
>>
Fighting Barioth in Tri for the first time, did they change the tailswipe dodge timing? I could roll Narga's in FU with my eyes closed but this one's giving me trouble. Also this fight sucks, I want Narga back.
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>>184373905
Yes but since it's on 11.4 you can only hack it if
>having another 3ds hacked
>hardmod AKA messing with the hardware

Good luck
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>>184374356
the hitbox is bigger
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>>184374356
Since Barioth is slower and bigger, your i-frames ends before you get out of the hitbox and the tailswipe throws snow
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>>184374616
It doesn't throw snow in Tri.
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>>184374498
>>184374616
Well this sucks, now I need to figure out how the fuck you deal with his tailswipe.
>>
Does felyne temper affect heavy arrows?
It seems it doesn't
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>>184353690
Begone thot.
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>>184375609
>nigger language
Cringe
>>
GIVE ME A FUCKING NARGA BRAINSTEM REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
8% DROPRATE MY FUCKING ASS
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>>184375707
>racism
yikes
>>
>>184375707
>racism
Cringe
>>
>>184363187
>also, all its arts suck
the sonic blast art scales with raw in XX, it's pretty alright there
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Ludens will the a collab armor in MHW and there's nothing you can do about it
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>>184373249
>It's so damn slow and awkward though.
It's now your default A move in sword mode in MHW, have fun
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>>184376753
but A doesn't attack in world
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How do I set up elemental LBG in MHXX? What are the go-to skills and which elemental LBGs are good?
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>>184377014
circle, whatever
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>>184372774
>walk into large open area
>see thing you can easily tell shouldn't be touched
>lmao how about I touch it anyway
I think souls protag is just always a retard desu
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>>184377096
None of them because elemental LBG got nerfed into the ground.
MHXX is a raw only game.
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>>184377372
source
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>>184377096
Build it like a normal LBG set or HBG set. Most that I've seen don't deviate from the core skills.
I've seen the Mizu gun and Plesi gun get used online somewhat often, but I don't play much LBG so I can't comment on what element guns are good.
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>>184377251
Why would you give a fuck when you're an immortal being thatll just eventually kill whatever says "no don't touch"
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>>184377096
True shot up, specific element up, and pierce up are the basics. Ammo saver, bonus shot, repeat offender, elemental crit, element attack up and crit boost can all be useful depending on the gun.
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>Caravan 8 urgent is a Monoblos
>use CB because I thought it would be easy to counter all its charges

>Axe mode bounce because it hits the back
>fuck up a GP and roar stuns me longer than Monoblos' animation so it's a free hit for it.
>Cephalos not giving a shit and attack me anyway

>sub 25 but it's finally over

I hope Monoblos gear suck dick because I fucking hated that quest.
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>>184377619
So Elemental Atk Up, Elemental Atk (X) +2, Bonus Shot, and what? Maybe Crit Element?
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>>184377908
It's not bad but it's ugly as fuck so there's that
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>>184377910
Don't forget your pierce.
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>>184378050
Pierce doesn't affect element pierce.
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>>184377846
Wait, Pierce Up and Crit Boost?
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>>184375707
>>184376434
>>184376539
was it autism?
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>>184378090
Well I guess not if pierce up doesn't do anything for elemental pierce. Crit boost only if the gun happens to have a lot of affinity.
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>>184377910
EaU, Ele+2, Bonus Shot, True Shot, Load Up, Ammo Saver.
Then trash it for a pierce setup with the standard crit boost build because you won't have enough ammo to finish a quest.
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>>184378226
No, it was love, TARS
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XX room just went up, room for two more, doing gen deviants, high rank anything, and G rank 1-3.

17-6652-3714-4950, 7243
It's also under gathering.
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>>184377908
>monster roars
>stops roaring
>40 minutes later
>hunter still crouched there like a retard holding their ears as the monster charges straight for them
this shit makes me legit mad
if I had to choose between getting gored by something 10 times my size or having sore ears I'd choose the fucking latter
autism I know
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>there is a spread bow with boost paralysis coatings
>the raw is not that bad (310)
TIME FOR MEME BUILD
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>>184378792
I feel your pain brother
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>>184378792
Its because the roar counts as an "attack" and if you get "hit" by it, you suffer the ouchie animation. Its why you can block it. Because the engine is shit. The roar should be a persistent AoE that affects your hunter as long as its active. you know, like how sound works in real life.
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>>184378830
>status crit is x1.45 on bow
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>>184379096
Does crit draw work on drawing into a charge?
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>>184379354
Yeah, but that's awful.
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So I'm hearing Monster Hunter World needs to hit 5M to break even. What is Capcom doing?
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So I'm using a hammer for the first time, I kind of like it but I have one very big problem with it; you're standing in front of the monster all day, how the fuck are you meant to not get hit?
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>>184379505
Status crit is awful too. The only bows with para boost have at most 10% affinity. I mean, if you're making a meme build, do it right.
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>>184380081
dont run it blind like a retard, wait for openings
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>>184379881
Sad thing is japs dont know shit about marketing
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>>184380081
>standing in front of the monster all day
Unless you're a TA jap, you're probably losing dps trying to always get on the head. Take whatever openings you can get. I mean, I'm just assuming you're bad it might just be me.
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>>184380179
It's not hard to reach high affinity in XX/X and the go-to status bow in 4U is Nerscylla so affinity is not an issue.
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does brave stance have a condition where if the attack would kill you/deal more damage than you have health, you cant brave stance dodge it? I just got killed by something while I was absolutely in brave stance holding Y, but I was kinda low on health.
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This is what the ideal female body looks like.
You may not like it but it's how it is.
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>>184380310
Now do gravios eating the tetsucabra
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>>184380495
fixed that for you
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>>184379881
Where exactly did you hear that? /v/?
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>>184380081
>run in circles with charge
>monster whiffs
>apply charge to monster's head
>roll out of the way
>repeat
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>>184380182
>>184380379
Woah calm down, I was just following the constantly repeated advice to always be hitting the head with the hammer. There are monsters with inadequate safe opportunities to do so, like anything with an instant charge.

So you're saying you don't always have to hit the head, the opposite of what's usually said. Right. Easy then.
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>>184380689
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Can you believe World has to sell 30 billion copies to make a profit? Clearly we should all think lesser of the game because of this.
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>>184380401
Nerscylla bow doesn't even have para boost. But yeah, I guess you're right. I haven't played X in so long I forgot affinity was the meta anyway.
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>>184380740
Yeah, dubious source.
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>>184379881
They expect that, MvCI, and "others" to collectively hit 10mil.
Capcom is full of idiots and of themselves, but that's nothing new.
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>>184380310
I-Is Basarios OK?
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>>184380495
Ideal male body coming through!
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>>184380847
You should aim to always hit the head but the had isn't the only thing you should be aiming for. Get in hits whenever you can and when you see a suitable opening, go for the head. It helps if you really know the monster moves so you know when to go for the head and when to not.
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>>184380847
>you're saying you don't always have to hit the head
You're missing the point. It's better to get a golfswing combo off on some other part of the body than it is to get a single sideswipe on the head. But when you have equal opportunity, the head also gets dizzy damage and is usually a weakzone.
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>>184380980
Yes it's just sleeping now.
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How do you pronounce the following things /mhg/?

Wyvern
Fatalis
Plesioth
Glavenus
Gravios
Tigrex
Ceadeus

Well?
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>>184381675
>whi-vurn
>fate-a-liss
>ples-ee-oth
>di-no-val-do
>grave-eeos
>tie-grex
>cade-us
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>got Rubbery Hide+ on a Scylla hunt-a-thon
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>>184381675
>Glavenus
>di-no-val-do
ur a cheeky shit m8
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>>184379096
WHAT?, I thought status crit was 1.2x on bow while status up +1 was 1.1x, and +2 was 1.2x
Sauce?, maybe you're confusing crit boost (that as I know only affects raw and its 1.4x)

I ask because I just checked some gook resources and they said what I wrote above.
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>>184381675
wih-vern

fat-alis

plasioth

glaive-nus

gravi-ahs

tig-recks

see-ah-de-us
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>>184381675
Why-vern
fatal-is
Plessy-oth
Glave-nus
Aw-ful
Tig-rex
Ce-ad-deus
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>>184381675
Teegrayxe
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>>184380179
>he doesn't have expert+3 with weakness exploit for ez 80% affinity on all his builds

>>184380434
You can brave any attack even at minimal health. Remember you can only block from the front.
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>>184381884
>fate-a-liss
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>>184382024
the skin they carry on their back is from gypercos' they killed
similar to how shrouded scylla has the skin of a kezu on its back
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>>184382071
Status Crit has a different modifier on each weapon, Bow's is 1.45, if you run a bow set with Status Crit and Status+1 and max crit you will puke status non-stop, just get lots of combines and other hunters to bring more coatings, and no I'm not mixing anything up, I used that set in 4U, I could throw you the source but I'm not going to go through the ATwiki to find it again.
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>>184381675
wee verne
fat ah liss
plez i o
gla vé nuss
gra vee os
tee grex
whale grandpa
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>>184381675
Why-Vern
>Fate-alice
>Pless-ee-oth
>Glav-a-nuss
>Grav-ee-oss
>Tie-grecks
>sea-douche
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>>184381675
Y-burn
fut-al-liss
plehs-yoth
gluh-venus
gruh-vye-yohs
tie-grex
kai-dus
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>>184382267
source on your claims?
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>>184382267
I just checked it and the wiki, and both say 1.5, not 1.45. But that's 4U. In X it's just 1.2 across the board.
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>>184381675
whyvern
faytalis
plessioth
glayvenus
gravy
tiegrex
seeyadayus
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>>184382636
nvm, found it. Holy fuck

>57 status applied per spread volley
>60 shots total including combines
SHEIIIT
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>>184381675
wee verne
fat ha leess
pl-hay zee oth
gl-ha venus
gr-ha vee oss
thaï grex
C ha deus (latin prononciation)
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What's the best horn for me to play sick beats in XX?
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>>184382264
>hate Gypceros AND Khezu
That´s fucking cool wtf I love Nerscylla now
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>>184381675
Why vern
Fay Tal iss
Please ee oth
Glav enn us
Grav ee ose
Tie grex
Say a dus
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Is Kushala Daora weak to poison in the sense that he is very easily poisoned or that he takes a lot of damage from poison?
I know it stops him from going full power with the black wind but I never knew if he's actually taking a decent amount of damage during it.
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>>184383054
wait... you can't take 40 of boost coatings, what the fuck?
>also can only take 10 extra combines
fuck
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>>184383329
You'll want earplugs and attack boost L for an all purpose horn. Anything else is a bonus. Silverwind and Grimclaw are both decent if you don't mind the deviant grind. There's also Akantor if you don't mind the sharpness.

In general you should have multiple horns that you switch out depending on the situation. Your teammates will thank you during those DQ fights.
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>>184383329
Probably still Akantor with bludgeoner/mind's eye with as much attack boosts as you can fit with those two
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>>184383954
>mind's eye
>ever
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>>184383954
You don't need minds eye when every HH comes with a minds eye song.
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Just got to HR 125 solo
AMA
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>>184380872
S E E T H I N G
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>>184383386
>not loving based spider from the get-go
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Did they nerf coal hearted in XX? Just swapped over to it from Gen and where I was getting maybe about a whole line of charms (on a good run) in Gen I'm now getting like one, two or three charms, maaaaybe half a line at the rare most.
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>>184383750
easily poisoned
IIRC, poison always does a set amount no matter the monster
regardless, the black wind is the sole reason to even bother with poison, since otherwise, Kush would be a pushover
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>>184384572
Yes. The new charm farming quest is now a coal delivery quest in V.Hollow with a Dios hunt as a subquest.
You do the sub and exit for big charm rewards.

It's a G1 DLC quest.
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>>184384719
>only HR6
fug
thanks for the info anyway
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>>184384642
Or you could stagger it non-stop with even a lick of Dragon or Thunder and not care about wind at all.
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I feel like making a cancerous je suis monte set just to beat this annoying retard.
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>>184385807
bow the feet
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>>184385807
just learn his patterns and flash bomb him so you can get him on the ground and give him brain damage old school style
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>>184384962
Why IS he such a pushover?
He's a fucking Elder Dragon with a body made out of fucking STEEL
Pretty disappointing desu
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>>184386159
>he
Can't you tell a girl from a boy?
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>>184386159
Try 4U G3 Rusty.
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>>184386159
elder dragons are too hyped up
>3U
>oh shit hunter there's this ancient lava dragon we woke up and it's pissed off
>yeah our best and brightest guild scholars know fuck all about it
>the only thing we know for sure is that the entire world is coming to an end 'cuz this mean ass nigger is gonna boil the oceans
>there's no way that you and your faggot friends could spam pierce lv. 3 shots at its dick and kill it in 3 minutes flat
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>>184386159
and there's a giant snkae elder dragon that can be killed by one lone hunter in about 15-25 minutes
elder dragons are all hyped up by the dumb villagers and clueless scholars
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>>184386996
>>184386570
i thought hunters were basically superhuman in a way that normal people couldnt really reach, which is why they overstate the challenge and importance of hunting monsters.
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>>184384526
anyone got the "i can be your monster tonight. the guildmarm doesn't have to know" pic of best spooder?
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>>184387163
technically, but who the point still stands that elder dragons are just hype and music
they're the pro wrestlers of the monster community
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>wide brave arcshot explodes in like 6 KO explosions
>oh shit son, time to KO
The fucking value must be 2KO per explosion, because like after 30 arcshots and 500 explosions on a rathian head and still not a single KO. Fuck that.
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>>184387163
it'd be retarded if elder dragons were Final Fantasy super boss tier
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>>184386570
I hope they bring back Miralis and revamp his fight:

>1st phase is like Lao, slow faggot moving in the sea, hunters platformed on boats shooting it while meteors and nukes attack hunters
>2nd fight is the original fight but he's faster and does more shit, there is also revamped underwater combat
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>>184387861
Just makes me wonder how World is gonna handle elder dragons
>inb4 Elder Dragon Boss Pack DLC for the low, low price of $9.99
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>>184388103
>Polished Kushala, $4.99
>Golden Kushala, $14.99
>surprise your friends by being able to host this quest with a shining dragon!
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>>184381675
Why-vern
Fay-taliss
Pleh-see-oth
Glah-ven-uss
Groo-vios
Tai-greks
Seh-day-oos
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>>184388234
>only the host gets quest reward items
>guests get VE tickets
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>>184319405

>What weapon entertains me the most

Tie between Hunting horn for "someone has it, that's fucking awesome" and Hammer, for "First weapon I ever downed my first monster with, it's a permanent fixture in my heart."

>Not that I use hammers anymore because not a nip with god RNG on drops and monster patterns so I can't get the KO KING MEGA PERMASTUN like those autism speedrun videos.

The Heavy Bowgun life is just too comfy. Crimfat HBG is still my favorite out of all the games to date.
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>>184388454
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>>184388103
>>184388234
>Deviant Passes DLC for $9.99
>includes 10 special permit passes to hunt any of 30 deviant monsters, even though to actually use their armor, you have to complete 20 quests pertaining to one deviant
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Is Tigrex the most well-designed fight?

>telegraphs absolutely everything
>hits hard but also provides a way to dodge/counter
>feels like a true man vs monster fight
>no bullshit moves that stunlock you
>doesn't fly around forever like the king of cucks
>no AoE attack that prevents you from attacking it
>challenging but fair
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>>184388647
>Been charging for over a decade
No.
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>>184388647
its up there
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>>184388647
>telegraphs absolutely everything
>goes from idle to charging
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>>184388647
not really. i like molten, though.
>>
>tfw ywn git this gud
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vh4RC38eQ4I
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>>184388647
It's excessively biased towards burst damage weapons.
The most perfectly designed fights would be Shagaru and Valfalk.
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>>184388716
>letting tigrex charge around

just smack him in his bitch face with a fully charged GS attack
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>>184388941
>random tracking explosions
>good
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>>184388941
>It's excessively biased towards burst damage weapons.
MH is biased towards burst damage weapons, it's part of why we play the games. Who gives a shit.
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>>184388845
it does have a telegraph, albeit short. the fact that it has to turn completely around first makes it even easier
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Just started mh4u
Bow Is fun, what type of bow are the best? Can i cut Tails with it? What coating Is the best?
What Is the recommend skills that i should aim for and weapons i should prioritize?
Sorry, but its been a while since i played mh
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>>184388647
Tigrex was only good in FU, then it got ruined by that stupid fucking turn around charge
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>>184389153
In 4U you can damage the tail all you want, but only a melee attack with an arrow will finally cut it
Essential skills for late-game bow are Fast Charge and Load Up
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>>184389392
Brute is the only good Tigrex.
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>>184389153
seregios is best. no you can't cut tails, you cut tails with cut damage, not shot damage. Power coatings, that's why seregios is best because close range coatings work like power coatings with it, so you get 1.5x damage on more shots.

Fucking read a guide, lazy nigger
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>>184389432
That's too subtle, he won't get it.
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>>184389432
just eat for hurler and throw boomerangs at the tail if you insist on using a bow all the time
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>>184389438
Fuck no, Brute is too random.
>>
>tfw lance main
>tfw hunt two brachydios quest
life is suffering
>>
I think I finally got the hang of Hunting Horn, any HH mains have any tips?
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What skills should I get on a pierce gun set in XX? So far I can fit pierce up and AuL with ASS still returning over 2000 results.
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>>184390035
Never, under any circumstances, become a corner horner. Those people are faggots and a waste of a slot.
Do always make sure you hit the head when you have an opening, and don't play songs unless you know you have the time to do it, otherwise you'll just be hit halfway.
Memorize the songs for whatever horn you're currently using, since you'll want to be able to play them when you have the opportunity. Try out different horns, and pick the ones that have the songs you like most.
Also, don't take shit from anyone. If they talk down to you because you aren't using a healing horn or buffing them at the right time, they can go fuck themselves. You are not a support weapon, you are a main attacker with support as an option. Buff yourself before the other hunters.
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>>184390035
Always go for the double notes when you can.
The self improvement song is both important for you and makes a great refresher song with the double notes mechanic.
Stay out of the corner. Those people are fags.
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>>184390202
Shot booster to keep up with the anime monsters.
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>quest starts
>hunter in my hub has that Chinese, kung fu sounding voice

What are other surefire ways to know a quest is going to fail?
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>>184390035
GIVE ME INFINITE STAMINA ALREADY
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>>184390035
Also, what he >>184391563 said
The self improvement song is your number one song. Always have it up and active, and make sure to play it twice to get free Mind's Eye. It's your bread and butter.
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>>184373213
You have to be 25 years to climb it though
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>>184391657
This is why I always gem in Mushromancy.
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>>184391328
>If they talk down to you because you aren't using a healing horn or buffing them at the right time, they can go fuck themselves.

If you seriously decide to play Wind Res Up instead of Attack Up when a monster is stuck in a pitfall or whatever, you're a retarded shitter and deserve to be blacklisted.
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>>184392004
>>184391657
>not savediting in 999 megajuices
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>>184390035
My tip is don't use it online if you're playing Gen because all you're doing is blocking people's view.
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>>184392241
>blacklisted
oh no, I'm so concerned
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>>184384081
>>184384179
Oh right, fucking duh
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>>184392269
>cheating
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>>184391654
Fuck you, I use that voice and I fucking like it.
>>
what weapon class would be best to use with blunt? I'm guessing switch axe because of the built in minds eye of the sword. Trying to figure out what to build with my extra crystalbeard tickets
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>>184393743
It's not so much the weapon type but rather the weapon itself.
I use Blunt for weapons with shitty sharpness like the Fatalis weapons or the Ukanlos weapons.
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>>184394057
I know, but all the crystalbeard weapons have shitty sharpness, which is why I asked which one would be best to build
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How do I Super AED after a GP? I thought it was R+X+A but sometimes I get the reload or switch to axe.
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>>184394706
No need to press R. All you need to do is press X+A and you'll do a super.
>>
what do you guys think about removing power coatings from bows and buffing their raw to compensate?

I like the idea of a ranged weapon that doesn't lose half of its DPS when it runs out of some kind of ammo. I'd still give it status and element coatings, along with other new stuff, but I think the idea of just a straight damage coating is redundant unless it is specialized, like close range coating.
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>>184341613
Literally hunting horn, idiot
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>>184394767
I should add that if your shield is charge you'll automatically do an ultra so make sure you press down+X to cancel to a super.
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>>184394767
>>184394925
Don't worry I know how to cancel, I was doing the input wrong
Thanks bro
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How do I gem the mantis set for Longsword use?
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What's the point of turning off damage numbers when you can leave them on?
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>>184395347
critmeme

>>184395578
keeping the screen clear, making it feel like old MH games, etc
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>>184395347
Tenderizer and crit boost is your damage. With RS and AR you have infinite purple, nice but not strictly necessary. Everything else is dependant on what charms you have.
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>>184319405

Before I started playing MH, I thought I'd be a light weapon guy, zipping around the field.

I never expected to fall in love with Hammer.
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>>184395578
its the new arbitrary thing to be angry about because somehow spreadsheets is better
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I've been chopping at this high rank hyper monster for 20 minutes with G-rank gear, why isn't it limping? Oh, it has 14,000hp? Shit.
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>>184396963
Can you give me one genuine example of people actually saying it's bad? Obvious falseflag shitposters don't count.
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>>184397446
there have been plenty in the past few weeks, especially right after the E3. Lots of talk of "casualization" and "normie pandering"
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>>184395578
it's a part of the feel of the game, having damage numbers pop up makes it feel a lot more artificial and bland.
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>>184397572
Then give me a link or screenshot. It's all archived.
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>>184397703
nah i'm good hoss
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>>184397446
I'd personally just call damage numbers pointless.

The systems before let you know when you hit a weak spot hard and quite frankly it's all you need to know. Knowing I did exactly 38 points of damage is pretty much moot point in comparison to say a 5000 point health pool especially when you have no visual comparison of your damage to the total health pool like a health bar. Certainly good for the e-peen though.
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>>184397162
Get some friends senpai
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>popular as fuck series in nipland
>very few doujins
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>>184398084
>very few
Where are you looking? I wish some series I liked got as much as MH.
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>>184397903
It lets you know how much damage youre doing relatively, immediatly. So you an change weapons and see MV's. Change to hammer and see where the weakness are, change to gunn and see where those are. Immediate instant access to relative damage values across all the weapon types, monsters, and hitzones. Just because you "feel" like you don't need doesn't mean its empirically without value.
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>>184398261
this guy sure loves drawing butts
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>>184398084
there are quite a few anon
the problem is they're either untranslated, or they're rape doujins
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>>184398624
They've got their priorities straight.
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>>184398624
hometown best town
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>>184398480
It does do it immediately, that is true, but you could still do that in the other games plus a dose of common sense. "Will this hammer move that I have to charge up do more damage than other ones? Yes".

There is a lot of personal preference I will admit in why I don't like damage numbers, chief among them was that it was something you learned and discovered over time instead of just being given right then and there. You fought the monster over and over to learn their moveset, learn when, where, and how to hit, and all that other stuff. The game presented that information clearly to the player, but not in a "standard" way needing the player to slowly suss them out on their own.
That whole learning over time aspect really drew me in at the beginning. Of course all this being an opinion, so I can't say it's the one correct way or anything.

There's also my worries that this immediate access to this kinda information will just feed the shitters in even more "lol why are you using X weapon type" but that firmly exists in the worst-case scenario box.
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>>184399489
I see your perspective but it seems like you jsut worship the struggle. To put it more abstractly,
Imagine that damage numbers were in from the beginning, now imagine how you'd feel if they suddenly took them out.
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Do people actually like fighting Brachydios?
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>>184399760
he's alright, but area denial gets annoying when it's spammed sometimes
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>>184399680
That is something I was thinking about while typing, and I'd have to say in that hypothetical situation I'd probably feel the same way just in reverse, going against all that I was used to and all.

I still feel that knowing the numbers specifically is pretty much pointless in the long run, but they also seem to do a good job so far in the previews with making the color and size of the numbers based upon how strong your hit was and the hitzone you landed on, so in that way the core is still alive and well. It's something I hope I personally can just get used to despite my misgivings about them in the first place.

And I do worship the struggle, because success after struggle is all the sweeter.
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>>184399760
I'm on the 9 star caravan quest against frenzied brach and he's annoying as shit. His speed is fucking unreal. Seems faster than fucking Rajang and all his attacks hurt like hell. I feel like I have no opening to do serious damage with CB.

I'm seriously thinking about changing my set to get Biology.
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>>184400251
>forming your opinion on a video adventure game based on marketing strategies
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>>184400514
I already know the game is going to be shit, this is just fuel to the shitstorm
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You know whats gonna suck about world? There isn't going to be a monster that has a flamethrower breath weapon. Its just gonna be lasers and fireballs.
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>>184400732
You know what else will suck in MHW? Everything else.
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>>184400732

I wouldn't mind a shin godzilla dragon like Midir
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>>184396734
I got tenderizer and crit boost just from my charm. I'm overwheled with all this freedom.
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>>184388647

>charge charge charge

If you like following that cunt around then yeah sure

Narga is better in every aspect though
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>>184401276
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>crystalbeard uragaan

Who okay'd this pile of shit?
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>>184401425
When are charms as a system getting replaced with something that isn't fucking retarded? You either grind your ass off for a good one or just cheat, and if you luck out during your grinding and get a properly good one people will just assume you cheated anyway, bringing it full circle.
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>>184402016
the same people who okayed raging brachy, the metal raths, maggy's randomized explosions, as well as continuing to put in the shitty dromes all the time
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>>184401425
wouldnt that get me banned from online though
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>>184402267
Well skills aren't number based anymore and mantles can replace charms, so its already a great deal better.
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>>184402396
haha no

you can actually cheat, not just save edit, and do a million damage in one hit and not get banned
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>>184402016
There is no good Uragaan
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>>184402486
what differs modifying talismans from save editing?
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>>184388941
>Shagaru

That's an odd way of spelling Gore Magala.
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>>184402725
Nothing, it is save editing.
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>>184402991
oh, got it, I misread the other post
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why does this shitty comic have so many upvotes
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>>184388941
Shagaru would be perfect if not for random explosions, especially the one where it explodes behind you and you have to flip the camera around 180 to makes sure the released projectiles don't smack your ass
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>>184403619
Tetsu is cute! CUTE!
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>>184403619
>>184403718 <--
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>>184403619
>why does this shitty comic have so many upvotes
t. Basarios
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>>184403675
>Especially the one where it explodes behind you
>Flipping your camera
>Not just looking at the black lines it extends out showing where the projectiles will go and not standing on those lines

If the attack is the same one I'm thinking about of course.
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>>184404130
either you're wrong, or 240p has been making things harder for me than I previously thought
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>>184404112
my waifu
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>>184404256
https://youtu.be/lgqA6OZuM6Q?t=4m44s

Look at around 4:50 to the left of the hunter, and you'll see the tell I'm talking about. And if it's the right attack.
And you might just want to mute it since I just grabbed first 4U Shagaru video I could grab.
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>>184404112
>800+ notes
Are tumblrtards that pathetic to fall for this kind of garbage, uninspired humor? I know the guy who draws these comes here, fucking stupid shithead.
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>tfw no pistol shrimp or mantis shrimp monsters

It would be the perfect balance between anime and animal planet even
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>>184404417
It's a cute image, friend. There's no reason to be upset.
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>>184404410
welp today i learned something

cant believe I never saw those tells in all that phosgem farming
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>>184404417
>Getting this triggered for absolutely zero reason
You're telling me that most artists have a Tumblr? That's fucking crazy talk.
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>>184404424
And just think of how beautiful those rainbow colored armors and weapons could be
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>>184403619
It's moderately funny and it's cute.
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>>184404417
>its a "anon in general unironically hating on drawfags" episode
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>>184404645
>>184404424
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>>184404417
>his
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>>184404424
>>184404645
no more underwater pls
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>>184404876
Fuck off.
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>>184404871
>tfw no hawaiin beach girl armor
didn't realize how much I wanted that until just now
>>
KEKED
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for bow, if I had to pick between haphazard+10 or power C+ +15, which one should I go for as a rule of thumb?

This is considering the bow I'm using can only load power coat lv2
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>>184404871
>female looks literally nothing like male
If the girl is gonna be all hula, then the guy should at least look vaguely hawaiin. Instead you have a Tetsu wannabe and an unrelated anime girl.
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>>184405018
MHO got you covered senpai
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>>184406341
I mean, that just looks like a bathing suit. I'm looking for something that looks a bit more like armor, or at least something built out of a monster
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Depends, you say that bow has PCoatings lvl2 already, so you only need power C+10, no +15.

And do your math, haphazard is a 1.2x multiplier on powershots. So if you always use them, it means a 10% increase in raw for guild style, and brave has double powershots.
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>>184405713
true shot up
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Is monsterhunter online worth playing? Will it help tie my over until XX comes out for the switch?
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>4U
>Can take on The Caravaneer's Challenge
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>capture quest
>monster starts limping
>goes to another area
>"he just got there, he'll be there long enough for the trap and tranqs"
>place down trap right under him
>immediately leaves right before the trap is placed down
>goes back to where he just was

I l-love monster hunter!
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>>184407141
Caravaneer's is easy, even in rank appropriate gear. Master's Test is a ballbuster though.
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>>184407198
just wait for them to sleep
easy captures every time
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>>184407293
i'm so impatient though

I hate it!
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>>184406425
that's a 5 set piece which you can mix and match with armor pieces or other cash shop cosmetic pieces using the transmog or the cosmetic slots system.
Remove the tacky hat and replace with whatever, replace the gloves with armored gloves, also the waist piece and the boots are different pieces.

>>184406868
>farm giadrome for a whole day just for it to drop a single rare 10 material you need to upgrade your weapon to the next step
>costs tens of millions of zenny to upgrade a single armor piece to maximum defense
>max weapon and armor and talisman and necklace and ring required to participate in end game G rank content.
>everything is in chinese even though the translation team works tirelessly as every small patch makes the previous english patch unusable.
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>>184406868
play frontier instead
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>>184407280
What's a good weapon to bring?
Also, thank you to whoever mentioned earlier about what poison does to Kushala Daora, I made the Garuga Lance and holy fuck did it work wonders.
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>>184407826
your favorite weapon, of course
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>>184407826
In the future, read monster descriptions.
They can actually help.
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>>184407996
I constantly forget about the Hunter's Notes
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>(Some items were insufficient or missing.)
>only 29 latchberries

oh no
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What is the best Style for Insect Glaive in Generations?
Aerial?
Really like the forward vault it gets with Aerial but I haven't messed around with the others, maybe the combos are better.
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recommend me a monster hunter game that isn't frontier or online and doesnt have >analog controls and isnt mhp3rd or mhfu, and is on pc
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>>184409159
Monster Hunter Freedom.

Otherwise, until World comes out you're shit out of luck and have to resort to similar games.
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>>184409159
Monster Hunter World
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>decide to restart 4U after finally being done with X/XX
>no ezmode item packs
right off the bat i am being slapped in the face for my casual ways
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>>184409151
Guild is the best, but aerial works if you like that sort of thing. Striker and adept are awful. I don't know anything about Brave or Alchemy for XX.

Doesn't have great arts. Extract hunter is cute if you can get it back up before the extracts run out (not really difficult, depending on the monster). Double absolutes or readiness/extract hunter is what I've seen most people go, myself included.
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>frenzied Brachydios moved so fast that my 3DS started dropping frames

wew

That had to be the hardest caravan quest so far.
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>>184409159
Recommend me a MH game that has Dire Miralis and Seregios together in the same game.
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>>184347408
I've only played mhfu and mho so can anyone tell me if axe shaped greatswords are still a thing in the more recent monster hunters?
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>>184410202
>I've only played FU and MHO
Why though?
>Are axe shaped GS still a thing?
Not only are they a thing, they're the same axe shaped GS from FU. Punisher, Judgement, Cera Cymmetry. There's also an axe shaped Hammer or two.
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>>184410202
idk, but we have hunting horn axes
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how 2 keep track of what mats i need for upgrades plz

why doesn't capcom implement shit like this ingame. unless i'm blind
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>>184410597
i wish they hadn't gotten rid of the ability to record needed mats in hunter's notes like in Tri
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>>184410291
I don't own a DS and I haven't bothered emulating tri for PC yet. MHO was only for a little while because the hunting limits were silly.

But I'm glad to hear axe greatswords are still in the series.
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Thanks Daora
Now, what to make with this...
CB or IG?
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>haven't seen MHW news for a while
>saw gameplay
>there are damage numbers now
Wtf is this? Goddamn casuals ruining everything. Please make it optional at least.
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>>184410737
>the hunting limits were silly
I literally never ran out of vouchers. You got so many of them (ten a day to a max of 20, an extra ten you could cash in whenever and stockpile forever without counting against your total every wednesday, most story quests would give you one so they didn't actually cost any). Though I've heard that the game has gotten a lot grindier, but also that it has removed the limit on hunts altogether. Then again, I've also heard (and seen) that they've tried making the gameplay more like Generations now so it's probably not worth going back at this point.
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>>184410940
IG

you gotta be squidding me if there's any choice in the matter
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>>184410940
The IG is cuter but the CB is better relative to other options in its weapon class.

>>184411098
It's already confirmed optional.
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>>184410202
That reminds me. Is there a Katana GS yet?
If there isn't it there should be.
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>>184411306
Is it really better than the CB overall? I don't want to totally beef it
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>>184411671
isnt CB all about raw?

Kush IG is definitely the best ice glaive
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>>184411585
There is in XX.
Drifters Katana/Toyohisa's Katana. It's a crossover DLC weapon, but it's a damn good one.
I use it for my GS set. It's a real stylish weapon.
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>>184411585
There was in MH1.
They all got phased over to longswords.
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>dark energies of darkness
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>>184411743
I'm G2, so upgrading it after is out of the question. It's basically a debate of which one will last me longer and be more favorable.
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>>184411585
There is one in the original Monster Hunter.
It became a Longsword
I'm kinda mad about that tbqh
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>>184411906
>Meet one of the editors of the wikia
>Remember this and decide to ask about it
>Suddenly get a multi-paragraph rant about how it's part of a war between two editors that has been going back and forth for years
>Slowly back out of the conversation for fear of stepping on another landmine

Fucking wiki editors.
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>>184409159
monster hunter frontier.
it's really not as bad as the memes say, anon.
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>>184412130
I think you have to have some kind of mental defect in order to qualify as any wiki editor
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>>184373146
>>I'm playing the horn and the guy left is using the bow

That sounds comfy. Just because you're a horn player doesn't mean you dont get in the monster's face. Git gud.
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>>184411906
Fatalis is so fucking generic, I don't understand why I like him so much but I do.
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>>184412258
Because he is THE generic dragon.
In a game where every other "dragon" is some kind of subversion, his straightforwardness actually makes him stand out.
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>>184412258
That's it's charm though. You hunt all kinds of unique fauna, and then there's a textbook example of a big bad dragon.
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>hating your gramps
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>>184412836
I'm reminded of this scene every time this gets brought up

https://youtu.be/DsqvCQTJMFo?t=10s
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>>184409159
literally doesnt exist unless you want to emulate tri
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Which is better, Crit Eye +2/3 or Pierce Up for Narga LBG? Currently in LR using Pierce Up mix set but I want to switch to Spio set since I like the looks more.
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>>184414264
Pierce Up
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>>184411908
kush glaive is a freakin squid dude
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>>184414621
Yeah but the Kush CB is a freakin turtle
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>when the GS user doesn't have focus
That's how I know things aren't going to go well.
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>>184414802
yeah cus its for SLOWS
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>>184414839
>When the HBG user is running Reload Speed+3 and Recoil Down+3 for Normal shots
>When the Bow user has no active skills and Blade Wire equipped
>When the IG user is wearing Star Knight with nothing gemmed in
>When the GS user is running Elemental Crit with the Shagaru GS
>When the Hammer user is running KO King + Stamina Drain
>When the DB user is running Aerial style with Adrenaline+1 (not even +2)
>When the LS user is named "Ichigo"
>When the CB user is using the Glavenus CB
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MHW Dual Blade, Insect Glaive and Switch Axe footage from chingchong land.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3q_WAMJZtY
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>>184416193
old as fuck dude
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>>184414839
>when someone goes for the high damage skills at the cost of having extremely low defense
Those people aren't good enough to make use of a set like that. They'll just cart all day.
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>>184414621
>>184414802
His Hunting Horn is a fucking GOAT
>>
http://www.capcom-germany.de/2017/07/monster-hunter-world-faq/

>In multiplayer, groups of up to four players can go hunting together. However, in the meeting room of a player, up to 16 players can be online and communicate with each other and arrange for the hunt.

>In the assembly hall, the hunters can then post a quest from their repertoire to the quest board. If you like, log in to the quest board and face the task together with the other players. Should not all four places of the hunting group be occupied, reinforcement can be fired from the assembly hall or worldwide via the emergency lights.
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>>184416149
>When any hunter has an anime name
ftfy, anon
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>>184410202
4U had the coolest one, from Dalamadur's stuff. Like it was a big proper greataxe and it even had a sick barbarian-esque set for females to go with it

Sadly it's not that good and neither is the armor, and it's not in XX so you can even mog the armor over your clownsuit. Feels bad.
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>>184416547
>Tfw can't rename my character/palico in MH4U
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>>184416474
and his LBG is a wasp, while his HBG is just a fuckhuge revolver
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>>184416604
What is the name of your main palico?
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>>184416193
>weapons still clip through capes
REEEEEEE
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>>184416567
I really wanted the snek armor for transmogging purposes.
They brought back the whale armor and a Lunastra set. Why not big snek?
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>>184416853
cloth physics are hard, anon
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>>184416536
>tri like hunting hubs
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>>184416846
Hunter name is Whelton and Palico is Kar. I'd just rather have them be something else.
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>>184398731
No they don't
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>>184417034
Not really, it isn't that hard to have the weapon model when sheathed act as a collision volume for soft bodies like capes. I mean, they even changed it so that (for at least the GS) the weapon dangles and moves on its sheath point when the hunter is moving, so it's already being physically simulated. Why not put the extra second of work in to make the cape collide with the weapon?

AFAIK for DS2 and 3 Fromsoft made the limb hitboxes collision volumes so you wouldn't get capes and robes cloth clipping through limbs. Capcom could easily do the same since they use Havok as well.
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>>184417547
MH team is lazy. Always have been and always will be.
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>Testing out Gunlance
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>>184417791
through out the series, I never really liked the lances. Pressing dodge and moving backwards puts me waaaay off.
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>>184417791
>testing out hunting horn
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>>184417910
For the most part, I've gotten used to Lance. The movement is still off-putting, but I'm slowly growing accustomed to it. This thing is completely different than what I had in mind though.
>>
Another thing going back to 4U has reminded me about is how ludicrously overinflated monster HP is in X / XX. Hunts are so much quicker in 4U.
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>>184418357
>people complain the hunts are too fast in X/XX outside of hypers
>people now say the hunts in those games are too long
?
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>>184418459
4fetuses don't know what a good game is.
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>>184418357
>Hunts are so much quicker in 4U
Perhaps if you're using an overpowered weapon.
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>>184418563
>FUgrandpas and their broken hitboxes
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>>184416149
>When the Bow user has. . . .Blade Wire equipped
Identifying Blacklist vol. 4
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>>184418707
Hammer confirmed for OP, you heard it here first
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>>184323619
What we really need is small one handed gun/bowgun and sword. Think like revolver and rapier/saber with a skirmishing sort of principle behind it. Shoot a bit, run in and melee when you have an opening, return to ranged when it gets dangerous. It'd be the in-between hybrid mixture of blademaster and gunner
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>>184420524
There's a new poseable Kirin slut figure on amiami, but it's like sixty bucks and Revoltingtech so I'm not buying it. You could, though. It looks okay but it's WAY too expensive for what it is. Revoltech is never good.
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>>184421038
Honestly that's already kind of done with the insect glaive. Any time you're not comfortable going in to melee range you can just mark the monster and keep attacking with your kinsect. The damage isn't amazing but it's constant and safe. I don't necessarily dislike your idea, I just think it's redundant.
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>>184421038
idk if that would be a good idea
the two styles should be different, and there shouldn't be this kind of hybrid
maybe if this was a different series, I'd say it would work, but with MH, the two are separate for a reason, and combining them into one just makes it feel less interesting than just leaving them alone
not to mention the fact you'd have to combine the sharpness meter and the handling of ammo types, which would just be annoying to deal with both at once
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>>184421038
That sounds fantastic!
You get all the advantages of both worlds, but at the cost of specializing in either! The result is a super low skill, extremely accessible weapon that puts out mediocre results! Sounds awfully familiar...
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>>184421609
>not to mention the fact you'd have to combine the sharpness meter and the handling of ammo types, which would just be annoying to deal with both at once
I think his idea is dumb, but we literally already have GL and CB that do this.
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I recently discovered the joys of playing Insect Glaive in Generations.
Tell me /mhg/ is there an Insect Glaive that is so good it could perform well even with a subpar Kinsect? I want to experiment with Power and Weight Kinsects.
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>>184421502
I'd rather the Kirin nendo. At least those are guaranteed to look decent since they're all so simple and good smile does okay work.
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>>184421819
I have a few nendos and they're good, but for MH stuff I'd really rather scales. It just feels right, y'know? But it seems Revo have the entire series on lockdown so there goes that.
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>>184421756
>Is there an IG
Ashen Helldait.
>that is so good
ASHEN HELLDAIT
>I want to try out mediocre Kinsects
You can literally do that with any IG. I wouldn't recommend doing it with a strong IG though, use a high rank IG that's easy to make and that you wouldn't be sad about selling and just test it out on LR monsters.
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>>184422075
>it's a Hellblade episode
Him and mantis may as well be the only monsters in X / XX
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>>184421038
For the concept of a half Blademaster half Gunner weapon, I'd rather have something like a large boomerang with chargeable throws mixed with melee combos. It could be as simple as GS/Lance or include a gimmick like some sciencey part that lets you rev it up for dumb anime spinning attacks.
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>>184422258
I think this is a good idea meow
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>>184422075
>mediocre Kinsects

Are they really that bad?
Don't they have at least some sort of niche?

I have enough Hellblade materials to fully upgrade 2 weapons since a friend of mine kept posting his quests in Turns rooms.
What would be better for Ashen Helldait? Balanced bug or Speed bug?
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>>184422162
>Mantis
There are fewer than five weapon types where Mantis is the best option.
GS, sometimes SA, sometimes Hammer, sometimes CB. LS uses Shredclaw, Lance uses Frostpeak, SA also uses Frostpeak, GL uses Frostpeak or Mantis, CB often uses Diablos, Hammer often uses C. Fatalis or Gore.
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>>184422335
>Are they really that bad?
No, they're not THAT bad. Mostly. They're just less good, and you're basically gimping yourself for no reason.

>Wasting Hellblade Powders for any reason
Just make two different Hellblade weapons, they're basically BiS for every single BM weapon.

>What's best for Ashen Helldait?
Balance if you'll overcap Affinity, Speed if you won't. The best sets in MHGen all prefer Speed for solo play, but in multiplayer the Balance bug is just flat out superior.
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>>184422162
IG's best weapons have nothing to do with mantis.
If you see a dedicated mantis IG user then that person doesn't know what they're doing.
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>>184422603
Thanks for the input m8, most of my play time is from Online so I guess Balanced bug it is.
They look kinda shit but party buffs are nice.
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>>184423101
not him but the real metric is whether it's blunt or cutting, blunt bugs should go speed and cutting should go balanced for optimal cuteness
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>>184422461
>point of mantis gear is that it may not be the absolute best but it should be far above average at pretty much anything
>to reflect this lbg lets you pick your shot type with the relevant skill and fires them all pretty well
>hbg requires two levels of any of the skills and only fires trash level 3 shots
truly X/XX are the best designed games in the franchise
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>>184423990
>Thinking that any ranged weapon will ever follow the BM BiS meta
:^)
Special peashooters for special snowflakes.
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HELL YEAH!
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>>184424372
congrats, anon
now have fun once the master's challenge opens up
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>>184424596
L-Let's just celebrate one victory at a time, okay?
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>>184424372
well done anon
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>>184424372
Congratulations, anon!
And you even did it without endgame gear!
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>>184409151
Aerial is the best.

You literally don't lose anything of value compared to guild style, your basic combo remains untouched, and you get some both fun and strong moves.
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>>184425471
>You literally don't lose anything of value compared to guild style
except swarm+bugsmash combo
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>>184425513
arts that are not absolute readiness are shit anon
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>>184425660
But absolute readiness is shit
That one art alone is literally one of the biggest reasons people hate the game
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>>184423870
I can get behind that metric.
I already have one of each balanced bug and one of each speed bug. I want a full collection
Except for Bonnetfille. Bonnetfille is not cute.
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>4U
>Just fought my first Diablos
>White Monoblos was harder
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>>184428321
That's because Diablos was supposed to be the multiplayer counterpart of Monoblos. A more fair comparison would be Black Diablos.
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Thanks for the hours of XX hunts, friend.
I had fun.
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>>184319405
Using Charge Blade at the moment because I'm trying out different weapons and getting a feel for them.

Switch Axe will be soon. Very soon, having watched a video on it.
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>>184428410
The mono/dia thing is so on the nose it hurts. I still don't really understand why they wanted online-only and offline-only monsters in the first place.
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>>184429729
SA is like a shitty CB for people too retarded to use CB. Especially if we're talking 4U, where CB is one of the top weapons (behind the absolute gods that are GS and IG though) and SA is only saved from being the worst by the grace of gunlance taking the fall for everything else.
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>>184428321
White Monoblos in 4U is the hardest of the 'Blos monsters in that game. You could even argue that it's harder than Apex Diablos. Not 136+, of course.
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>>184429729
SA is a deceptively simple weapon. Some people love it, some people hate it. I happen to love it, as it feels comfy and methodical and it gets straight to the point, but as it's most used combo in MHGen is just X ad infinitum, it's viewed as being very low skill.
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>>184430065
To this day, all that stands between me and 100% completion are the small crowns for white monoblos and kirin. Not for lack of kirin hunts, the RNG just hates me.
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>>184430157
Yeah, it's a lot better in previous games where it optimally only uses that same combo but it's AXAXAXA instead of just XXXXXXX.

The axe combos are actually fairly nuanced, shame there is never any reason to be in axe mode.
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>>184430259
Axe mode isn't nearly as bad as it's made out to be, it's just that Capcom has never and apparently will never balance Power Phial.
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>>184430354
The weapon is balanced AROUND power phial, without it it's a bottom tier weapon in every game and not just 4U.
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>>184430354
>>184430503
Oh yeah, and nuanced combos aside, all you ever do for optimal axemode damage ix X+A into AAAAAAAAA, optionally with an X+A finisher if your opening is ending and you don't need to sidestep. So in practice, it's still about as bad as swordmode. Plus the first X+A has a hitbox the size of an entire map and launches other players.
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>>184430503
>The weapon is balanced around Power Phial
Yes. That's the problem.

>>184430596
>The monster is always still for long enough for you to use the fury chops
No.
>Complaining about balance in multiplayer
No.
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>>184430960
>complaining about a weapon that actually makes hunts take longer than if there were simply one less player (namely the switchaxe user)
yes
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>>184431282
if you honestly think some trips are going to nullify the dps of an entire player, you are beyond retarded
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>>184432254
I actually never played with an SA in 4U who didn't slow hunts down, except one who had their weapon sheathed most of the hunt and just used horns and flashbombs. Practical experience takes priority over SA main whining.
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>>184432516
mathematically impossible, you fucking retard.
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>>184432886
>this thing that happened is mathematically impossible!
well damn, I guess I've had a bunch of paranormal experiences!
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>>184432516
SA main here, I don't know why you pose such hatred on us but hey, we are not garbage. We may not be able to reach the dps level of you S-tier weapon mains but we can still deal enough damage to make the hunt faster.
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>>184433043
it didn't happen. you have a grudge against SA players because you got launched a few times and are generally a bad player (all online players are) who gets frustrated when his carries aren't doing exactly what he expects

a SA would have to simultaneously launch every player consistently to even have a negative impact on kill times.
stop posting.
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>>184433043
>>184432516
t. hammer grandpa
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how do I extract my XX save to load it in the MH talisman editor?
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>>184422258

This actually was a concept that the MHX team came up with; big ass Boomerang that you could combo with at close range and could throw at mid range, along with some "Hunting Hound" of sorts that was supposed to be a new ranged weapon (God knows we need another one along with some other blunt weapon) which basically is a monster/dog which you command from afar to attack.
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>>184344949
Tried my hand at it as well. Pls no bully, I can't actually draw.
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>>184433487
>MH talisman editor
Might as well not play the game
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>>184433487
>JKSM
>Extract Extra data
>Open file with editor
>edit shits
>Get called out for being a cheater
>Enjoy
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>first and only monhunter is 4U
>play exclusively solo
>main CB
>half guessing my armour and skill sets
>don't get carted but chew through mega potions
>am pretty greedy
If I play online am I doomed? How do I git gud at min/maxing?
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>>184433487
>>184433618
Talisman editing is fine once you've passed the 100 hour mark. Charm farming is fucking cancer.
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>>184433496
honestly, I'd rather the hunting hound over the boomerang, since we seriously do need some more gunner class weapons
fuck, blademaster got two 4th gen, bringing it up to 11, while gunner is still at 3
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>>184433752
What about prowler?
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>>184433496
>God knows we need another one
Do we? How many weapons can they add until there begins to be a lot of overlap and the unavoidable comparison of "X does everything Y does, but better"?
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>>184433803
I'd call that as a joke weapon of its own class
glad they aren't bringing it back for World
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>>184433885
Haven't really touched X/XX, what's so bad about Prowler?
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>>184433885
It will be added as DLC
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>>184434023
That's already on disc but time-locked.
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>>184433119
I use every weapon. SA is by far the worst online, so I only use it offline. It's not just the weapon itself, which merely facilitates shitty player it's the mentality of practically everyone who would bring it along in the first place. It got to the point where I just don't play with SAs anymore. Either they leave or I do.

>>184433282
Doesn't matter if you believe it, it did happen, and it wasn't an isolated anecdote either. SAs go out of their way to knock any and everyone else off of any weakpoints on the monster, and superarmour doesn't matter since they do it by launching through discharges or upswings. I have CONSISTENTLY observed hunt times go up when repeating the same quest when an SA joins, and go back down when they leave or are kicked. Some gunlances and rarely a hammer or GS will also be that way, but usually in the case of hammers and GSes it's because they are very obviously and deliberately griefing. With SA and GL it's more difficult to tell whether they're griefing or just retards, given the weapon.
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>>184433619
I'm getting an error when I select save data options, "error opening save archive!". Is there a fix for this?
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>>184433845
There are only three (kinda two) gunner weapons and a lot of untapped potential there. It's not like BM where there's only a couple of niches left to fill without going into ultra gimmick territory.
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>>184434634
dual guns where
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>stories won't update and I can't find a .cia of the new patch
n-not like I wanted to ride a kushala or a rajang anyway
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>>184434634
We all know that insect mage is long overdue
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>>184435240
Regular mage is long overdue
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>>184434235
Oh well, I humbly accept what you think of us SA mains, can't really blame you with all the players who spams upswing. I also use GS and I hate it whenever someone blast/upswing me when I'm aiming in the head (CB and Hammer are all welcome to get the head though).
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>>184435401
Yeah but they will just explain it with lolscience like bugs.
>>
>>184434856
>>184435240
yeah, and
>boomerangs
>bombs
>falcons/hounds/whatever (probably won't get them since we have kinsect, sadly, hopefully those get some kind of love at some point)
>harpoons
>an alternate bow a la light vs heavy bowgun, or like magick bows in DD

>>184435401
That's basically what insect mage would be.
>>
>>184433641
>How do I git gud at min/maxing?
Min/maxing happens in your soul. Either you're doing it already or you'll never do it.

I think you mean "How do I improve at MH?", in which case you should watch videos of better CB players and learn from what they do, and use what they use.
>>
>>184435546
There have been concepts for actual magic, or at least shit a lot more esoteric than bugs
>>
>>184434960
Nevermind, found it. Someone posted it in a request thread on 3dsiso, if you actually search for it it's several results down.
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>>184435848
Which wouldn't pass after 14 years of established MH lore. If they wanted to give magic to hunters, they should've done so 14 years ago.
>>
>>184435848
Those are all from MHI1, meaning they are probably from the phase of development before MH1 where they thought for a while that MH was going to be a swords and sorcery spectacle fighter. Granted, shit like the IG and HH seem like they were also from that sort of period in the game's development, so that doesn't completely count it out, but the setting they settled on doesn't have much actual magic outside of elder dragons.
>>
>>184436056
Yeah
Half the felyne gear are supposedly magic, but those are jokes
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should i max out the narga SnS or SA?
only have the materials to do one right now
>>
>>184437263
>poison phial
take a guess
>>
>>184437321
actually it's status phial
was mainly asking in terms of aesthetics tho, both are good stats wise
>>
>Lance and CB don't get new moves
why
>>
Does anyone even care about stories?

I heard it flopped
>>
>>184433986
Everything

No damage (even with the meme boomerang build which was nerfed in XX)
No survivability (lol you can die 9 times, you're 9 times the shitter now)
No worthwhile utility to anyone in the hunt (lol health horn that does less than an herb of heals, useless buffs that are less useful than HH buffs, worthless traps, worthless gimmick shit like rath of meow)

Literally a complete and total waste of a slot, even more than other joke weapons like gunlance and hunting horn, at least the hunting horn can do something, cats can do nothing and none of it is done well.

Cat players are to be kicked from the hall and blacklisted on sight. Do not let them on hunts, do not play with them, they need to be purged from the game.
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>>184438015
If it ain't broke, don't fix it
They're already perfect the way they are
>>
>>184437615
The SA is ugly like almost every SA while the SnS is far from the best looking SnS but at least sorta looks like a weapon.
>>
>>184438121
Yes
Yes
Funny you say that when people are unironically complaining about XX not being localized when it bombed hard.
>>
>>184438015
In the case of lance, doesn't need any. What it had in 4U was as far as you can improve a weapon like that before you start making it worse in other ways, 4U lance was perfection in terms of its moveset.

>>184438121
It's not great but it's moderately enjoyable. I pirated it as stress relief and it was okay, it's very cute.
>>
>>184438015
I'm pretty sure Lance has been seen to have gained forward hops, thats already all the change needed for a World of difference.
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>>184438123
>gunlance and hunting horn
>joke weapons
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>>184438391
4U is great because almost every weapon was perfect. DB was a masterpiece.
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>>184438015
There's this
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>>184438501
HH is great in multiplayer, but GL is very much a joke, yes
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>>184438580
I wouldn't say every weapon, but a lot of them.
>no way forward
>better take ten steps back and split the movesets into styles haha
>>
>>184438656
That's just the standard sword round slash after a slide
Most weapons seem to have gotten a slide as a visual replacement for certain rolls or hops
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>>184438656
And this
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>>184438501
You heard me. Gunlance and HH are joke weapons. They're not meant to be played seriously.
>>
>>184438015
CB's phial reload animation is fast as fuck, if it's DMG is better than Gen/XX's guild, that would be broken, and these >>184438656, >>184438807 can lead to some DMC combo bullshittery
>>
>>184438752
The worst is probably Gen DB because the fucker was the one to come up with Archdemon.
>>
>>184438656
that looks more like an upgraded dodge rather than an actual new move
it even has the same spin slash you get when attacking out of a dodge

>>184438668
just because you don't like using them doesn't make them joke weapons, anon
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>>184438881
he has a new child
>>
>>184438656
>>184438807
Frontier as fuck
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>>184438121
I'm excited!
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>>184438121
It's the title I'm currently looking forward to the most.
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>>184439815
It's that, world or XX, no wonder it's the one you're looking forward to.
>>
>>184439863
Why would you look forward to any of those but world though? You can already play XX and Stories in English for free.
>>
>>184438903
They're not joke weapons, they're just a joke
Learn the difference
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>>184440196
so you just suck using them and therefore think they're bad?
good to know
>>
>>184440254
Gunlance is objectively bad anon
You can be good with it but it's still bad
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>>184433521
At least someone tell me it's shit.
>>
>>184438580
Aaaaand right on schedule.
Remember when 4U weapons were god fucking awful, and 3U weapons were perfect?

The MH franchise has a serious problem with glorifying the past and being blind to the present.
>>
>>184433521
>>184442229
It's not shit, it's decent. Cartoony and silly, it suits MH well.
>>
>>184437615
what, in what game SA isnt poison phial
>>
>>184438242
>Deciding whether or not to craft something based on its appearance
?????
>>
new thread

>>184442731
>>184442731
>>184442731
>>
>>184442505
Thanks man.
>>
>>184442406
You're retarded if you think that's a cycle, 3U's BALANCE was perfect but its weapons were lacking, just like hammer is still lacking forward mobility, 4U made some weapon perfect because it gave them new moves they needed and in the case of DB made both modes worth it unlike literally every other game.
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>>184442662
Direct your post at him, he was asking about appearance.
Though he's in the right and you're a shitter.
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