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Pursuer armor will never be in the game edition

>READ ME BEFORE POSTING, IF YOU'RE NEW
https://pastebin.com/Txe190aw

>Character Planner
https://www.mugenmonkey.com/

>DARK SOULS 3
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1u8Mak1goSv4g73g16XsWV4sJelDQUatWkP2kcO6GVAA/pub
>Full Soundtrack
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B66vvDQ_rAMyS29wdTR6ajZsczQ

>DARK SOULS 2
https://pastebin.com/FiDXYjfs

>DARK SOULS
https://pastebin.com/Rtb5w9yS

>DEMON'S SOULS
https://pastebin.com/tehcGm75

>BLOODBORNE
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1sItpr6PHpoEiFbtFIBtPO4UNeNEpxuztHteANTJRHDU/edit#heading=h.od90ylbez0rz
Bloodborne discussion is welcome here, but you'll get more help in their general: >>>/vg/bbg

>KING'S FIELD
http://pastebin.com/G8zw0sc3

>COMMUNITY
Discord (READ THE README BEFORE JOINING): https://discord.gg/C3AX2Hk
Player list: https://pastebin.com/9hG50KHX
Steam group: http://steamcommunity.com/groups/DarkSoulsGeneral
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1st for whips
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How do you decide what build you want to use for a new game, something that's not a retarded "roll a build" image.
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>>184283738
time to pay your respects

God Tier:
>'God' Naotoshi Zin

Immortal Tier:
>Yasuyoshi Karasawa
>Shinichiro Nishida
>Toshifumi Nabeshima
>Masanori Takeuchi
>Eiichi Nakajima

Chamption Tier
>Hidetaka Miyazaki
>Jun Itō
>Makoto Satoh
>Daisuke Satake
>Yuzo Kojima

Hero Tier
>Yui Tanimura
>Kaikō Arima
>Keiichirō Segawa
>Takasuke Andou
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>>184283932
is anyone actually participating in it?
also what do you even do? gank people? how? summon phantoms + dried finger reds in?
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So who's following Best Boy ENB into rediscovering DS2?
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>>184283989
Look at the list of weapons and go from there.
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>>184283989
I usually do some sort of cosplay, currently split between Black Iron and Faraam for a Str build.
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>>184283932
>150
Just to pvp some edgelords who won't be around in a couple of weeks?
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>>184283989
I do it based cuteness
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>>184283989
HOLY KNIGHT
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Yo, will I get softbanned for swapping out my saves in das3 on PC? I have 10 characters already and I want to try a new one without deleting one.

I know you could with das2 and they wouldn't ban you, but I heard das3's shit is retarded.
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>>184284505
Jesus Christ
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>>184284505
I can't think of a worse possible screencap
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>>184284606
I've been doing it since day one and got no problem

not only that, today I used third party software to transfer some characters from one save to another, and I'm still good
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>>184284078
Yes, but neither bloodshades nor vicars have quite got their shit together yet. We're starting in earnest tomorrow.
You gank bloodshades, who try to gank you. Summon other vicars / get summoned by vicars and wait for invasions.

>>184284303
>what is CE
I'm sorry, who are you currently busy pvping in this dead-ass game when there's finally a bit of activity?
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>>184284505
>>184284391
>>184284183
>>184284154
I got some builds planned out, but I can't decide on which ones are going to be fun throughout. Some seem like they'll run dry after Anor Londo, other's look like like they'll need a heavy time investment before it gets fun.
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>>184284708
great news then, thanks man.
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>>184284606
From what I can gather, as long as you have the same number of saves, swapping them out shouldn't be a problem. So you have to have 9 blank new characters in addition to the new build you want to try, then delete one of the blanks when you want to start a new character.
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Gundyr halberd nerf when?
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>>184284719
>13k concurrent players
>dead-ass game
jeez
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>>184284871
I will keep that in mind. Easy enough to do as a precaution if its bullshit anyway.

Thanks for the heads up
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I have the hardest time sticking to a single build

But I think I like bleed the most, but I have a problem with just using 1 wep

Is there like a bleedbuild I can mess around with that includes several weapons?
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>>184283989
I decide on my character archetype and the weapon(s) I want to use and build accordingly.

Like my newest character is going to be a Temple Knight sort of character that uses spears and halberds so quality / faith with supporting casting and buffs.
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>>184284505
more like holy shit
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check this out guys i'm doing a post:

DaS > DaS2 > DeS > BB > DaS3
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>>184284941
some people consider anything older than 6 months a "dead game", especially if there's no announcement of a sequel
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>>184284704
>>184284691
>>184285167
Filthy heathens, you deserve worse than 39
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>>184285476
hey anon check my reply out
you're wrong and a complete fag
true list here:
DaS3=>DaS1>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>DS2
If you want to include DeS/BB, the ranking goes as follows.
BB=>DaS3=>DaS1>DeS>>>>>>>DS2

Have a nice day!
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>>184284719
Invasion activity is frequent right up to meta level and and beyond, it's by no means a dead-ass game.
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doggos are love
reminder t protect them
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>>184285734
go away lucifer
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fc
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>>184285851
don't accuse me of being a tripfag ever again.
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>enter 2v2
>everyone and their mothers are lagging
JUST
U
S
T
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>1v1 at pontiff
>close fight, both of us at low health
>chug estus and r1 spam him with a spear
>give him the point down
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>>184286262
fuckyoufuckyoufuckyou
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>ENB just said "EvisceratedFetus welcome! That's a weird ass name, but welcome"
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>>184286371
haha epic :)
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>>184286371
>weird name
>there's a bloodborne boss that uses a literal placenta as a weapon
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>>184286424
I'll keep you posted on the latest ENB reactions
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>in sen's fortress
>lock onto lizard on the first bridge
>camera decides to switch to the guy on the high ledge
>fall off and die

REEEEEEEEE
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Can somebody give me an example STR/INT or STR/FAI build for DS2?
I want to give it another shot but I don't really know what I should be leveling for.
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>>184286779
>locking on
>ever

learn to play unlocked, it's a lifesaver and makes you better in pvp
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>>184285043
Mostly the same thing I do, I got 4 builds I want to try but want to narrow it down to 2 for DaS1
>Zweihander build
>Moonlight GS build for a sort of Mage Knight
>Sword and bow Knight
>Caster Cleric with Longsword
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have you ever seen
a unicorn?
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>>184286853
I do, most of the time. But it's tough to parry those fucks if I don't.

Also I use a mouse
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When is Raw useful in DS3? Is it just for early game while you pump survivability? Or good for pure int/faith as a backup weapon that's still buffable?
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>>184287283
raw is pretty good in DS3. For most D/C or C/D weapons, it's better than sharp or heavy as long as you have under ~18 str / 18 dex
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DKS2 PC - Can I get some help at Najka SM is currently 2884
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>>184286906
>no wizardly fashion
>no fashion, period
>PChain at 120
>White Dragon Breath
>Crystal Hail
>over 20 END
>FTH investment for no reason
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>>184287283
It's excellent early game (especially on twinks) and on some caster builds that just want to buff their weapon.
The dragonslayer axe is infamously good with the raw infusion and is common on low-level invaders.
If a cleric wants to use LKGS with lightning blade but has only the minimum requirements, raw is probably better.
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If I summon this faggot for Orstein and Smough, who does he try to kill first? Trying to get the achievement for killing Orstein second.
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>>184284505
What the fuck are you doing
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>>184287725
Actually I'm an idiot my SM is 71,880
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>>184287725
>Najka
>SM 2884
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>>184288108
>I'm an idiot my SM is 71,880
Yes, you are. Nobody goes anywhere above 2-5 million. How the hell are you not strong enough to kill her?
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>>184288128
Read: >>184288108
I haven't played DKS2 in several years, pls forgive
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>>184287896
>not having faith in the power of metal
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>>184287956
Ornstein and he facetanks him so killing Smough first can be difficult. If you're gonna summon better off with a player.
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>>184287956
>dealing so little damage that Solaire kills one of them first
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>>184288286
alright "dude" I was just asking for help, you don't need to be a dickbag.
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daily reminder that snekboys are for lewd
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>>184287956
He just attacks the first thing he sees. It's almost always Ornstein, since Ornstein charges like a nutter as soon as you enter the room.

He's unlikely to kill his target before you kill yours, though.
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>>184289006
but you didnt remind me of this yesterday???
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Are there any NPC phantoms that can solo bosses in 3?
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>using a barefoot character in ariandel
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>One location in the entire Dark Souls universe that won't eventually turn to shit because of entropy
>The only way to get there is to already have failed at everything and been completely fucked over by the world

Good lore
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>>184288019
Reclaiming the holy land with my ST/FT build
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Can I still cast Great Magic Shield on an infused shield? Like say a Simple Shield?
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>only 7 more sunlight medals to go
>nobody's summoning me
Does slutwear help?
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>>184288556
Is there anyway to tell a summoned player who I want to kill first?
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How many reds we got up in here tonight?

Roll call, where my invaders at
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>>184290594
invading at archive SL120 here
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>>184290453
The iron giant was pretty hot, got around 10 there tonight
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>watch speedrun wr
>30 minutes lol impossible
>watch it anyways, guy is a cringey edgelord
>proceeds to bypass 98% of the game by glitching through the map and killing bosses that don't move

How is that a record? They should add in all the time it took to figure out how to glitch and where you run while glitching, every world record speedrun would be 30mi + 120 hours
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>>184290453
I just found out that my weapon was too high level for the area I was in. Look for the embers on the warp screen and go to those bosses
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>>184290558
Assume you're on PC. Phantom should be in recent players on the Steam overlay, just add him.
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>>184290594
all day erry day

bullying people at the cathedral atm
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>>184290594
35 in Farron Keep

There really aren't enough invaders here, so I am fixing it. Got my moss clumps and I'm tracking hosts based on their poison counter and then fucking them with a greatbow while they dick around in the swamp.

It's good shit.
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>>184290915
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I feel like an NPc out of a wowcrendor video on YouTube when I'm wearing this retarded church covnenant

"Oh I'm gonna get them, I don't know when but soon enough I'll do and when I get them oh... any day now"
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>>184289615
consider this >>184290946 a reminder
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What's the best slutwear in DS1?
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Other thread died so.

>Forging
Gavlan steel!
>Showing you his pet
Gavlan's eel!
>Tired after a run
Gavlan keel!
>Testing you
Gavlan's ordeal!
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>>184290594
I'm at SL45+4, down in Demon Ruins. Somebody recommended the Warpick to me and I'm having a blast with it.

I can't remember why I took a screenshot of this fucko in particular, I think he was the one who went on to summon like eight blues before I finally killed him.
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>>184291242
nice. you should find some good 4 and 5 syllable words in your rhyming dictionary
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>>184291078
Yeah that's a great drawing, now add the 2000 Koreans on the speed running drawing and have the let's player finishing his lap and enjoying a nice beverage while they figure out where the glitch is
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>>184290941
Ok cool.
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>>184290915
glitchless any% is probably only around an hour
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>>184291384
Is Gavlan capable of pronouncing words with more than 2 syllables?
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>invading at sl 120 cuz I hate myself
>host is full havel 1handing fugs with black iron greatshield and mid rolling
>30/30 dark CGS only does 1/10th of their hp

Is this even possible to do or should I assume they have 99 in all stats?
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>>184291418
so the world record ought to be the first person that finished the game?
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>>184292282
No it ought to be whoever does it without glitching like a child
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>>184292438
should we also add the time they spend finding any sequence breaks that aren't glitches to their run time? such as dropping down to capra demon from upper undead burg.
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>>184292438

Speedrunners do all kinds of runs. Look at the glitched noclip one again and I bet he's done legit ones too.
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What's the hardest hitting weapon in the game?
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>>184293149
you mean highest AR? Or highest poise damage?
Do buffs count?
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>>184293149
which game?
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>>184293263
AR

>>184293379
3 Obviously
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what is the best ds3 shield for very very low str/dex? I really only use it for parrying but I'm taking lots of damage from "imperfect" parries, they still land anyway in this game I guess
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>>184293875
iron round shield
llewellyn if you have 12 str
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>>184292228
I have a SL125 Havel that can midroll, it's totally possible
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>>184294141
With two of the heaviest weapons and shields as well?
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>>184293683
dark lothric knight greatsword on 99 all stats.

It's 3 way split damage though. Sharp LKGS with Lightning blade is probably highest.
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>>184292228
Yes it's possible
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>>184294812
>152
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>>184294908
You can invade level 152 people at 120
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are any UGS viable at SL25?
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>died to RNG Wyvern three times and lose all your souls
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>>184295141
It's the fucking chain axe dude.
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>>184290594
>where my invaders at

Elite invader here of the highest caliber. Not like you low tier invaders who die to host and a phantom or two.
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>>184294984
t-thanks
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>>184295005
Astora would probably be your best choice
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>>184295273
>health is lower than attunement
jesus christ
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>>184295182
And the millions of fireballs coming at you from behind
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>>184295273
Fuck off duskposter
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>>184295273
I'm glad I can filter images.
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I want a dex build

what do I allocate my points to and what weapon do i use?
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>>184295371
>16/18
I guess I have to give up any vigor for an UGS?
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>>184295923
80 Dex, and the rest in Vigor and Endurance in that order.
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>>184295923
dexterity
sellsword twinblades
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>>184295273
>Elite
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>>184295005
https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/228008
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>>184295985
You only need 11/18 for two-handing, so that could give you a bit more freedom.
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>bluecucks keep coming and they keep coming and they keep coming and they keep coming and they keep coming while the host hide
can't make that shit up
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>>184296394
sounds like youre the cuck here desu
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>>184296394
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Iqr0L4bUms
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>>184296615
I somehow knew this would happen
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>they can't say our PvP is bad if every match is such a clusterfuck you can't tell what's going on

and thus dark souls 3 was born
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>>184296394
>Disliking free estus, tongues, and the opportunity to cuck bluefags
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>>184296394
>he doesn't like to get his estus refilled
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ANONS!! I'm back from 14 hours of going full wagecuck I have shitty fastfood a will to kill
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>>184297131
Bear that red proudly, son

Go out and make the shitters remember that they are afraid of death
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>>184297131
Join the glorious archive invasion
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>>184297330
Working at a park blows the thickest of chodes, going to go full retard and pull out my refined dark sword
>>184297479
What level lad?
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danyone on dark souls 3 PC willing to record a fight with them so i can test some client/server stuff?
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>>184297479
Grand archives is such a nice place to invade at

S I L V E R C A T
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Playing SotFS, doing a UGS build and so far I've hit the softcap on all my pertinent stats (5 faith/int), and I'm not sure what to level next? I hit 42 with STR just for fun with dual wielding stuff, but otherwise, I'm not sure If I should put more into stamina for more attacks/rolls or VIT for wearing more armors. I'm almost strictly PvE.
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>>184297792
hi saint
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>>184297973
The man is right

Invading is an equation and the answer is silvercat ring
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>>184297792
I've never related to a post harder than this
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>>184298071
Obscuring ring is the best ring

I can't play a build that doesn't have a utility ring slot anymore. It's mostly silvercat and obscuring, but I throw Knight Slayer or Hornet Ring on occasionally too.
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>>184297693
sl120 friend
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>>184298071
if you want to play fair sure, but im too busy having fun with dung pie crossbow bolts and WotG firebombs at pontiffs atm
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>>184297792
V E R T I C A L I T Y
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>>184298267
Silvercat Ring is invasion 101. Exploit the level in a way that the host won't. It's hardly fair, it's invader dickery at it's finest.
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>>184297973
Is saint the only good ds3 youtuber?
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>>184298272
Verrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrticality
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>invade a passive reactive shitter host
>fucker finally swings
steals 2.1M of my hard-earned pygmy bucks.
Man it's just souls but I earned 75% of those from invading.
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>>184298231
Murdering on my sl75 past pontiff cuz fuck the meta
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>>184298548
how does he steal? hack?
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>pssst. Hey, if you buy my game twice & invade over 1000 time at Anor Londo: you might get me as a reward. Act now, supplies are limited
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>>184297479
I prefer Irithyll Dungeon, but the layouts are both very nice for invaders. Also Cathedral. It's mostly because of
>Verticality
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>>184298823
Oh my fucking god I need it
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>>184298217
No invasion build is complete without silvercat and obscuring.
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>>184298548
Just kill a password shitter and get 400k souls
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>>184298613
Yeah, they swung, hit me, and I see out of the corner of my eye the souls I have vanish. I jumped off a cliff before any other spooky shit happened.
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>>184298968
I rarely have the opportunity to wear both at once, unfortunately.

>tfw no permanent obscuring ring effect if you turn in 699 tongues
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For builds using some of the much heavier armor and weapons, is it preferable to pump enough Vit to midroll, or keep enough Vit to at least stay under 100% equip load and make more usage of blocking?
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Soul Greatsword or Old Moonlight?
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>>184299339
melee
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>>184299339
m o o n l i g h t
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>>184299339
Soul Greatsword is better in most scenarios.
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>get summoned
>host is a retard who doesn't understand how to advance the game
>no medal

>get summoned
>host is a retard who's already beaten the boss
>no medal

>get summoned
>host aggros literally everything and gets gangbanged
>no medal

>get summoned
>escort host through the entire level, killing almost everything by myself
>he BCs me right in front of the boss room
>no medal
GIVE ME MY FUCKING MEDALS FROM SOFT
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>>184299339
Soul Greatsword for rollcatching and fighting groups of players, Old Moonlight if you're a passive reactive shitter who only attacks second.
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>>184298450
>it's hardly fair
It's totally fair. Equipping silvercat doesn't force hosts to fall. They can just run to the boss gate if they really want to.
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>>184299530
M E D A L
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>>184299530
Man, those hosts. You know, I get how you feel, friend.

Sometimes you just want to kill them all

RED RED RED RED RED
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>>184299530
>people don't summon right in front of the boss room

they're not even that hard to get to in DS3
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>>184299530
Does this really happen a lot? I've only had it once with a dude who was proabbly playing on a 3rd world toaster, he was lagging like shit. The rest of the times I summon/get summoned it's a smooth rush to the boss and we either clear easily or me/the host die stupidly at like 10% boss hp.
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>>184299530
>helping retards
>not weeding them out like the scum they are
you only have yourself to blame
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>>184298823
Is this for real?

my dick hard.
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Anyone up for helping al75 midir
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>>184299578
But it's still part of the invader mindset.
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Anybody on PC bored and want to start a pure INT run with me tonight?
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Coming from DS1 and 2, with DS3, is there any reason to bother attuning a less powerful spell? I see that duplicate copies are made completely worthless now because mana. But if I want to nuke something, why would I choose the shitty spell when the FP difference is negligible and the casting time is very similar? I miss having spice in demon's compared to this "lol you cant heal as much if you want to be a caster" shit.
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>>184299748
It's been my last three hours in Drangleic Castle. Every Throne/Nashandra/Aldia group is great, but not a single fucking host has made it through Twin Dragonriders.

My last host decided, for some arcane reason unknowable by rational humans, to aggro all five Ruin Sentinels at once. There needs to be an emote for "Shit Nigger What Are You Doing", because apparently "No Way" isn't a strong enough deterrent.
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>>184299530
Have you considered a change in career?

You get sunlight medals for slaughtering them, as well
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>>184299530
Try putting your sign by the boss instead of bonfire
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>>184300237
I spent hours there yesterday too, great spot. Many comfy runs to the throne room and the 2 pursuers. I did run into one guy who rushed into all the ruin sentinels at once though, maybe the same guy who's just summoning people to troll?
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>>184300386
Darkwraith anon has a point pick up the blade my friend
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>>184298475
Only one I've found

He does good banter
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>>184299530
Put your sign outside champ's gate, you retard. Boss is braindead easy, doesn't have much health and retard hosts have no excuse to summon you and backtrack through the level since the double crystal lizards are the only threat in the entire area. I made 400+ embers after about 3 days of co-oping there.
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aren't you supposed to join a red when you invade with the sunlight covenant?
I've been invading for hours but always end up alone
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>>184300212
>is there any reason to bother attuning a less powerful spell?
Slot/FP usage, number of casts, cast speed.

There are very few spells in DS3 that are actually just worse versions of other spells because of how many of them have really high FP use and slow cast speeds.
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>>184301254
It's rare to actually have backup outside of gank city as an invader.

You mostly fight alone.
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>>184300134
Why would both of us go int? Seems dumb
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>>184301035
>>184298475
What makes a good dark souls 3 youtuber?
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>>184301496
Challenge/flavor, I imagine.
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Dark Souls IIII when?
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>>184301675
bants
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>Evil spirit has invaded your DS1 game
>evil spirit drops jagged ghost blade
>presents their back for you to slay them
>See you space cowboy Q-Q

Evil Russian clown or whatever it was, God bless you if you're here
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>kill a sunbro
>he gets resummoned
zzz
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>>184301675
>Doesn't bitch about Dark Souls X non-stop
>Doesn't bitch about invasions being unfair
>Doesn't obsess over "meta"
>BIG STRONG BOY & BIG BOY POISE
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>invade a lone host
>they're near the fog gate, but they stop and don't enter
>we're on the bridge in road of sacrifices
>they don't use estus, neither do I
>we fight on the bridge

shit, that was fun

all they had to do to make invasions fun was disable estus and
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>have to run through the whole game just to respec
i'm sick of this shit
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>Try to summon in Anor Londo
>Literally zero signs
>Get invaded by something "Giant"
>Oh boy!
>Invader has returned to their home world
Is DS1 PVP dead?
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>>184301820
never, they're done with the series
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>>184302190
and disable resummoning
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>>184302190
Why are you lying on the internet? You cant invade in the road of sacrifices
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>>184300212
>s there any reason to bother attuning a less powerful spell?

Different tools for different jobs obviously. You generally only want one nuke.

Your other spells should serve different purposes such as a quick finisher to catch runners or a defensive option.

Even in PvE there is no reason to nuke something twice and waste FP if you can finish it with a less fp. Some spells have far greater damage to fp ratio as well.
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>>184302348
whatever the swamp is before farron swamp
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>>184302054
>evil russian

I was co-oping with that guy in Sens earlier. I died to the firebomb giant.
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>>184302348
I think he's talking about the one before sage. The one near the 2 lycanthropes that you go under after collecting the shard.
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Having some trouble with NG+ Freja, anyone around on PC?
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>>184302289
It died a long time ago.
DaS has bad connectivity, though. I hear DSCM helps a lot.
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>>184302289
Go to Oolacile. I only ever got invaded there.
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>>184302289
only people who can't run DS3 still play DS1
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>184290594
Watching over the snowfield here
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>>184302787
What SL?

Been thinking about taking a trip down to the Corvian Settlement.
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>Mad Spirit siding with the host and his two phantoms because he is afraid of that sweet 3v2
can't make that shit up
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>>184302360
fuck off duskposter
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>>184302869
80
Almost a guaranteed invasion every 5 min
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>>184302897
>mad spirit always looking for the easy way to get their sheckles
>realize the invader is shit and will never win so joins host
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>>184303184
What happened to your saturation
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>people still manage to die on the roots in ariandel
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>>184300212
You should have a spell for every encounter, because that's what mage is best for. A self defense spell for when something is in your face, a ranged nuke for engaging enemies that aren't aggro, a fast casting ranged spell for kiting bosses/slow enemies that are too close to nuke, and a spell for hitting groups of enemies. Always start the fight with the nuke, then use your weaker ranged spell to finish them off. Be responsible with your FP and don't just cast until it your spell hits, wait until you're 90% sure the spell will land. Leveling my pure sorcerer was the most fun I've had with souls PvE, and it's now my favorite build in dks 3. I've been playing this one fucking build for 8 months now, just because of how unique it is.
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>>184303221
f.lux kicked in
god damn thing kicks in at the worst moments
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>>184303187
>muh sheckles
nobody cares about proofs that everyone already has
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>>184303391
Your just repeating what the other guy said
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>>184303493
What's your build?

Also your previous shot made me think my flux was fucky
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>>184303187
found the purplebaby
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>>184303187
>needing sheckles
>not being a wildcard that could go either way or just sit the fight out and watch
You shame the grapes.
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>>184303598
The other guy has been shitposting and falseflagging for a while now, specifically to get people to hate him. Nobody will actually listen to his advice and half the thread already has him filtered, so it's better to confirm that he's actually correct in this case instead of hoping that >>184300212 will actually believe him. The webms he's stealing don't even have self defense spells 90% of the time
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>>184303768
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>>184304130
Oof, that's some seriously low vig/endurance. Do you kill anything in melee or is this just a millwood character?

Though it's not a bad idea. I might drop the untrue dark for a pchain, put a little more in vig/end and drop strength to 55 or whatever, and copy you.
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stuck in a wall in the cathedral of the deep, pc, sl120
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>>184304264
Well I won't be trading hits with any UGS that's for sure, but you can surprise a guy hasing you with some swings and just fuck his shit up
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>>184304531
I'm thinking

https://www.mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/228027

Though warpick is my weaponfu so I expect I'd use that pretty often too.
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>>184303995
>been shitposting and falseflagging
If you're copying what he says then doesn't that mean you're a shit poster too?
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>>184304330
right next to the bonfire, a dog hit me and I phased through reality.
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>>184304749
Of course it doesn't you fucking idiot
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>>184304797
Why do doggos have such mastery over space and time
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>DARK SOULS™ III.exe has stopped working
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DS1 > DS2 >>>>>>> DS3
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>>184304870
because gooks love dogs. I already got invaded once and he just gave up and left.
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>>184304264
Regarding the untrue dark ring anon, I beg thee to reconsider
even with the obscuring ring, not being a glowing piece of red ass can be god saving if you want to fool someone rushing past you by jsut curling up
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>put down free shit in fight club
>hardly anyone grabs it
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>>184305135
>picking anything up from strangers
>2017
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The daily shits you have to deal with as an invader
holy fuck, give us a break
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>>184305312
My world, My rules.
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>>184305312
kek
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>>184305312
kek
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>>184305048
Gotta wear the colours with pride, man
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>>184302257
>not using the Reddit glitch so that you never run out of respecs in the first place
I'm sick of this shit.
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>>184305312
keK
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>>184305312
at least he didnt break all of your shit.
you should know better than invading there anyways.
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>>184305312
lol
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>>184284719
>faithful honora
Not only not a vicar, but a dumb brit
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>>184305312
>Invading Gank City
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what's the best SL and WM for invading cathedral of the deep?
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>>184306872
SL25+2 to SL30+3. Most people should have at least a +2 weapon by the time they get past Crystal Sage, and around SL25-30.
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Co-op?
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>>184307001
I'm SL27+2, is it safe to go to +3? Or will I lose a lot of activity?
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>>184307047
where?
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>>184302786
I can run it, I'm just playing the Astorias DLC before I play 3.
I fucking forgot to do it last playthrough.
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>Crystal Sage as pure caster
Somebody better fucking help me before I
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What is the comfyiest build and why is it 40/30/30 dex/int/fai with dark and fire damage weapons and a couple support spells
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>>184307047

Anything pretty girl.
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>>184307303
sl?
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>>184307303
the fact that intelligence doesn't have a DS2 enchanted path (faith gets Blessed) is the biggest failure of DS3's infusion system
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>>184307370
28
pw killme
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>>184307067
+2 can match with +1 to +3
+3 can match with +2 to +4

You'll probably be pretty safe since few people stick with a +1 weapon all the way into Cathedral.
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>>184307526
My 3DS is almost finished charging.
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>>184307370
>>184307526
Nevermind. Got him. This whole game is nothing but RNG.
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>>184307047
>ask for co-op
>don't say plateform, sl nor map
cunt
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>>184307762
>ACCIDENTALLY SOLD CRYSTAL SAGE SOUL WHEN I NEEDED CRYSTAL HAIL
OH MY GGOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOODDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
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>>184308023
Trust me, you don't need crystal hail
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>>184308023
>can't trade bosses souls
rip
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For some reason I can't adjust to DS3. I've completed DS1 and then screwed around a fair bit with other characters. Same with DS2. I've completed Bloodborne, am doing NG+ as well as another NG character. Done lots of Chalice Dungeons too.

I just can't tune into DS3 for some reason. I find it weirdly difficult. Even basic bosses like Iudex Gundyr fuck my shit up way more than any boss in BB. What's the mentality? You know, like how BB has a different mentality from DS1.
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>>184294449
Full Havel armor, with Dragon Tooth and Havel's Greatshield.

https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/222993
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>>184308294
You abuse rolls. There's no Instability during recovery frames of rolls, they cost very little stamina and stamina regen is absurdly fast unless you're above 70% equip load. You can also just spam R1 with a straight sword and stun-lock most enemies.

Beyond that, expect the tougher enemies (Lothric K***hts, Evangelists) to attack in combos and to have stupidly long reach with little warning time on their attacks. DaS3 is very much just BB distilled into Dark Souls form, except it's much more into the realm of twitch reaction gameplay.
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Not long till From have to make another Souls game to get their accounts in order. Can't wait.
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>>184308294
DS1 and DS2 were designed to discourage rolling or attacking too much. DS3 was designed to discourage rolling or attacking too LITTLE. For most bosses in DS3 you are expected to roll or attack 3-4 times in a row regularly. Nothing in 1 or 2.

Another thing is the animations, which are a lot less sensible than in DS1/DS2. Most enemies will show little/no indication of their attacks and then SNAP forward with a rubber band effect, so the threshold for your reaction time is a lot higher without actually changing the windup. It fucks with your perception if you're used to DS1/DS2.
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>>184309715
>to get their accounts in order.
You mean Bandai Namco, and it's called Code Vein.

From has no reason to make another souls game, and it wouldn't be worth the money they'd lose to Bamco over the IP anyway.
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>>184309986
>From has no reason to make another souls game
Except that that's literally the one thing that turned them into a globally-acknowledged developer.

>it wouldn't be worth the money they'd lose to Bamco over the IP anyway
Just because it isn't called "Souls" doesn't mean it's not a Souls game. They most certainly will make another Souls game in the future, there's far too much money involved to just walk away from it. It just won't have "Dark Souls" in the title.
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>>184309909
It fucked me up going back to DS1 and reacting way too fast for parries.
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>>184309986
From themselves want to make money, Namco is a separate company obviously. They make more money from each game in the meta-series than like 8 Armored Cores combined. They just have to not call it Dark Souls, that's not hard. Bloodborne shows it works well. From and Sony want to work together again as well.
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Playing DaS2, finally got to the 1st boss of the Sunken King dlc, and holy shit did they just increase the difficulty dramatically compared to the base game. Elana is wrecking my shit and the climb down to her is really difficult and not because of mobs since there are only 3 or 4 enemies between the bonfire and her scattered throughout the climb down.
Also is there any lore-wise reason why she summons velstadt.
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>>184310156
Your post should have said "next game they make similar to dark souls" then. Dark Souls is "officially" dead, but they will use the BB/DS3 game engine to make new fantasy games for sure. They're already working on a dark fantasy game, though they were hiring graphic and 2D artists for it last month (and still are) so it's probably still in the concept stage.

My guess is they will reveal something at Tokyo Game Show.

Also don't forget that they're owned by Kadokawa now, which means that any games they want to make are first going to be approved by the new members on their board. A huge uncertainty is what publisher they will use for the international market. Are they going sony exclusive? Is Kadokawa expanding to US game sales? Will they use a third party (like Ubisoft or Atlus) again? Will they go back to self publishing in Japan? No idea, but whomever they choose is going to have a huge impact.

>into a globally-acknowledged developer.
They were "globally-acknowledged" before souls, but completely shit the bed and lost all relevancy in the early/mid-2000s when the PS3 came out because they didn't know how to develop for it and no one in Japan was buying xbox 360s. It wasn't until 2012 (prepare to die edition) that they got any actual recognition in the west again, and it wasn't until DS2 that they got any real publicity beyond "those guys who made that awful steel batallion kinect game"

>>184310313
>Namco is a separate company obviously.
Namco makes more money from souls than From does, because From loses a huge percentage of every game sold internationally. Souls sells 3:1 more in the US than JP, which is why it's such a cash cow for Bandai but From has not been raking in the the profits.
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>>184311115
>Namco makes more money from souls than From does
Yeah, but I'm saying it's irrelevant because From can make a game and make money from it without Namco Bandai being involved. They can make what's effectively a Souls game without using the trademark, that's all I mean. Miyazaki still seems passionate about it, although he did seem a bit auto-pilot with DS3. He seems to put a lot more into the first games in a run (DeS, DS, BB).
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Holy shit I came across some guy with a caestus build, it was sick.
What build do I need to punch people like tekken
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>>184311553
Caestus is probably one of the most underrated weapons in the game. L1s cost the same stamina as a roll, running L1s are fast and good at rollcatching, R1s are almost the speed of a dagger, so a smart player with one can harass the shit out of an ultra player, and even has perseverance as backup. The perseverance has the lowest FP cost in the game compared to other perseverance weapons. It's better with on a dex build than it is strength, but what kind of faggot makes a tanky punching build and doesn't wear big heavy strength based armor?
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>>184311912
You can wear full Lapp's with Caestus easily if you start Knight without even leveling Vitality and 80 Dex.
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>>184312075
>full set armor
>fashion
>full set of lapp's
>fashion
>any bit of lapp's armor
>fashion
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>>184311407
>Yeah, but I'm saying it's irrelevant because From can make a game and make money from it without Namco Bandai being involved.
No they can't. They have no sales channels outside of Japan, they literally cannot fund a new game without a publisher bankrolling them, either Sony or Bandai or someone else. Bandai is already out of the picture so that means that whomever is replacing them is more likely to dictate the ultimate style /budget/polish of the game.
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>>184312289
We're talking in circles here. The point is that Dark Souls (or similar games by them) are their superstar product line and whatever it means to distribute it outside of Japan applies to ALL games they make, so it still remains their most profitable thing to do.
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>the DaS2 1h straight sword moveset
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>>184312283
He said he wanted to use big heavy strength based armor, Lapp's is definitely one of the best for that.
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>>184312384
I think you're overestimating the sales of Souls and how much that influences their decisions. They're making 3 games at once right now, one of which fills the "role" of souls but it's not a guarantee of income by any means, especially now that larger studios are coming out with their own souls clones (Nioh, Nier, Code Vein).

assuming that just because their games have sold well before that it means they have to keep making them. Bloodborne only sold 2.7m copies (half of what each souls game has sold) yet BB2 is more likely than a non-bloodborne IP.

You know what happens to indie companies that can only make one type of game? They fail and get assimilated into other studios. From's goal isn't money right now, it's -diversification- so that they aren't risking bankruptcy with each new release.

They said they're working on 3 games at once right now:
>Some new dark fantasy game
>Reboot of Armored Core
>Something completely different

at least one of those is likely going to have VR, and at least one will be for PC, according to their promotional videos for 2017
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>>184312474
>Shortsword/Fume sword /sun sword: Literally DeS moveset
>all other SS: Literally DS1 moveset

Of all the stupid shit to complain about, the SS moveset is probably the dumbest, since it's literally the same as in the other games. The only thing that might be different is that some swords have a 2HR2 thrust, which is honestly much better and is the reason why those swords are top tier.
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>Kellogg hasn't made any videos of note for years

Shame, I miss the cute little lesbian and her silly drawings.
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>>184313335
Another victim of Vaati getting popular, really. I saw someone on /v/ a few months ago saying that some spaz was stalking her and her bf IRL, which caused her to rein in her web presence a bunch. No idea if it's true or not, but it's alarming if it is.
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>>184313671
>spaz was stalking
This is exactly why I never post my YouTube videos here.
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>>184313060
>nier
>souls clone
What the fuck
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>some memers is summoning me then sending me back home over and over since 10m
wew
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Thinking about playing DS2, is it a bad idea to go for a blue flame build on my first run?
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>>184313748
Nobody here cares enough to stalk you unless you're a qt grillor a qt trap
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>>184316231
Blue flame shows up pretty late from what I remember. But I had a lot of fun powerstancing them back when DS2 was current.
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>>184316386
I mainly want my first run through to take advantage of what makes DS2 unique.

Any recommendations?
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>>184315198

Still better than what I used to do in 2, used to summon them in corners and kill them with lifedrain patches. Was awkward if they survived.
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Say, for example, I wanted to be an absolute prick and invade high wall/undead settlement with a poison buildup weapon

-Would getting the stats for Storyteller's Staff be worth it, or is it just going to get avoided to the point of uselessness?
-What sort of poison build up would I be looking at with 25 luck? I plan on using a poison infused ghru dagger at +2 so I know base is 36, will my luck score add a significant amount?
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>>184316319
In that case I guess I'll never show my face or talk on videos.
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>Playing around dks1, helping people out with artorias at standard ng level
>Guy summons me
>Much harder than usual
>Couple of tries, get the 62.5k (ng +6) payout

That was mad fun, never realised you could get summoned into ng+ worlds
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>>184316769
Storyteller's staff is okay, nowhere near as effective as Snap Freeze, so you just have to be smart with it and either pressure opponents with it or not use it in open spaces where it's easily avoided.
Will also help a lot with twinking PVE.

>will my luck score add a significant amount
Can't say, I'd just invest in survival stats though. HP regen is also really good at low levels and will allow you to play hit and run to make it a game of attrition.
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>>184316769
Also +1, not +2 for High Wall.
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Will there be any vicars on ps4 or should I not even bother?
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>>184317236
>>184317295

Thanks for the reply

I intend on running survival and regen stuff such as Anri's and the Sun Princess ring, so that's not an issue. Why would I take a +1 weapon, I was under the impression that the weapon range was +/- 2 levels. So +2 is in range of unupgraded and +4, etc;

Is that simply to avoid people twinking dancer or something?
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>>184305742
Fuck off chink, you don't even have a working PC
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>>184316806
Which of you two you are then?

>>184307378
DS3 infusion system is great imo. It has the physical infusions of DeS buy not stupidly limited i.e you could only make certain weapon types sharp.
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>>184286906
Mighty Wizard?

I invaded someone today and you were one of the others! You were hacking and throwing superpowered firebombs. I was Wayfarer Alva. Nice to see you again!
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>>184317454
I might start doing a character although getting to SL160 will take a while.
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>>184317741
The limitations were not stupid. Shard Hammers or maces don't make much sense.

Maybe if they changed them visually adjusted the damage type.
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>>184312474

What's wrong?
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The reward for killing those scumbags is really worth it.
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>>184318380
>sharp hammers or maces don't make sense
As opposed to them doing fire or magic damage makes sense?

I think making weapons sharp / heavy should adjust their properties like Heavy gives them a bit more weight while Sharp reduces the durability on a DS1 style weapon durability system.

>changes adjusted in model
Mm,it would honestly just make me not do upgrades if they looked shit visually so rather not.
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>>184317535
No, +0 can only interact with +1.
+1 will let you interact with 0-2.

At +4 it starts allowing you to interact with people two upgrades above yours.
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>>184318626
>As opposed to them doing fire or magic damage makes sense?
Yeah, cuz magic.

>I think making weapons sharp / heavy should adjust their properties like Heavy gives them a bit more weight while Sharp reduces the durability on a DS1 style weapon durability system.
I agree with that.

Always hoped that they will bring back the damage system from Kings Field.
A large bladed weapon would deal slashing/slicing damage as well impact damage.
Heavy would increase impact damage and shap the slashing damage.

But then they would have to actually mage the different defense types matter and balance them.
And attack numbers wouldn't be directly compareable anymore
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>>184283932
thats my screenshot! how did u get it
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>>184284303

It was just supposed to be a counter to Bloodshades for a bit of fun.
I kinda miss it
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>>184320517

It was fun back when Bleed was viable and FAI was struggling, so you needed the extra levels to keep up

Nowadays, bleed is next to useless due to build-up times and faith builds are at the top of the game at balanced level, let alone overlevelled

It would make more sense for the bleed builds to overlevel to counter vicars. I fail to see the fun and challenge in overlevelling one of the current top PvP builds to fight people using more challenging builds
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>>184320780

Haven't actually played the game since TRC came out, ENB's sudden reappearance on YT made me check back.
>Bleed is useless
I guess it's good I finished my SL60 hollow bleed run already. Winning matches against higher level players was also pretty easy with it. I guess I would be a free frag with him now.
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>>184283932
I got one at 170, should I make another? When are we getting together on PC?
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What is the best looking Miracle/Sorcery/Pyro/Hex that looks amazing but is actually really shitty?
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>>184318598
>Q: Kneel
a-anon? Please tell me you just modded in kbm icons
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>>184321340
dead again
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>>184321440
Maybe it's just because he pressed his screenshot button and the button promps changed to keyboard.
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How do players do the backflip that SoC is doing?
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I have just killed the Abyss Watcher. Dark Souls 3 is also the first DS game I've ever played.
Question:
>Are the controls MEANT to be this horrible?
It seems to me the main difficulty in this game is the fucking controls. Am I doing something wrong?
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>>184321440
I did add the icons.
Why bother with icons that do not correspond to the keyboard?
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>>184321831
you need collectors edition for that
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>>184321876
>actually playing DS1 with kbm
you poor poor soul. i pity you.

>>184321846
The game has the smoothest controls of the four games, what are you talking about? You must be doing something wrong. Are you playing with kbm as well?
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>>184321934
ah ok
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>>184322025
i played 200+ hours of DaS1 with kb+m it wasnt until two months before DaS3 i moved on to playing with a controller
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>>184321934
Wew everytime there's something cool it's from the collector edition IT'S NOT FAIR LITERALLY PAY TO WIN
holy shit if only I knew I would have bought it
Is it worth it to get one even if I already have the game + dlc? Or is there something like a code I can get on ebay
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>>184322025
Am I supposed to play this with a gamepad?
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>>184322402
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>>184322402
only with a laptop trackpad.
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>>184322186
by collectors edition i meant ce(cheat engine) not real collectors edition
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>>184322186
>He was about to buy a new game
dumb anon.
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>>184322186
kick with a curved sword
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>>184322186
Please be bait
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>>184324479
horsefaggots not allowed sorry
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>>184324479
>>184324585
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>>184324585
>>184324724
what did he mean by this
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Cool autism. One more filter for me
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i'm officially sick of this game, in the end it was never as good as DS1, was an attempt at DS1's greatest hits and that's all it was

if you want to win every duel like i do just wait till somebody attacks and then attack immediately after and learn the spacing you need for each opponents weapon, literally only a handful of people challenge this

glad they've killed the series because it definitely wasn't going up, fuck this game

peace
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>>184325235
sorry bro i win every duel

always the champ at FC

winning gets boring after awhile, you'd know if you didn't suck ass
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>>184322025
I played all of the Dark Souls games with mouse and keyboard and they honestly weren't even bad. After moving to Bloodborne on my PS4 the controller was noticeably better, sure, but kb+m is perfectly doable.
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>>184325331
I'll show you how to suck ass, motherfucker, if you wanna see me in a real man's game come see me in For Honour bitch
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>tfw new to /dsg/
In venturing /vg/. Anon discovers the truth of the Old rules. Every general has a few autistic shitposters, /dsg/ is no exception.
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>>184325925
>anime avatarfag
Looks like you'll fit right in, you bitch.
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>>184325925
If you are talking about the tripfag he is not from around here
He is just some newfag crying for attention
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>>184326021
>anime
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>>184313335
The best video about Quelaag is when she's talking to Spy and he completely drops his spaghetti in that conversation.

That said, she's C U T E in that vid and I would be dropping my spaghetti harder than Spy ever did if I was in that situation.
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>>184325925
Hibiki isn't a firekeeper
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>>184325707
i don't play little baby games
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God-King Lucifer I summon thee
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>>184326273
stay dodging, on my mom's everyone be steering CLEAR of my warden, damn
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Gimmie your favorite SotFS builds faggots
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>>184326423
Bone Fist or Vanq seal. Farm Roy in rat area offline and enjoy.
You could rush ashen mist thing for the stone club and go 40/40 str/int and bash EVERYTHING in one-two hits
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>ds3
>drunk and invading
>wonder why im even still playing this hollowed as fuck game
>cant enjoy it anymore
what do i fucking do
>
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>>184328045
join vicars and gank instead
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>>184328045
play DS2 or do use a strange weapon. i just played the entire DS3 with the Valorheart weapon. that means no parry, no heavy hits, almost no stagger, no good riposte damage etc.
was fun.
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>>184328119
i am unable to gank even while im off the deep end drunk, my autistic honor will not allow it because i myself am not the reason why the host was killed
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>>184328195
i'll try this then, i didn't really enjoy ds2 but i assume a little drunk i'll enjoy it immensely. dark souls is the only game i can truly enjoy while buzzed.
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Weapon Skill or Parry Shield?

Help.
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>>184328438
IF you have to use a shield, use a parry one.
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>>184328438
Do you want to parry or use your WA?
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>>184328239
>killing the host
no no, you gank edgelord invaders.
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>>184326218
Every time.
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>>184328695
here we go then, thanks anon
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>friend and me are doing a 100% co-op pikeman run on DS1
>switch to dragonslayer spear ASAP and begin leveling Faith from 10 afterward for that lightning damage and heals
>got 24 STR 24 DEX needed for it
>starting to wonder if Faith is even worth it because we'll be like level 80 before we get the good miracles
>could just go full quality build

Is the Faith Spearman unfeasible in DS1 and DS3?
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Rate my holiman. And who else is down on pc? I need a few minutes to set this up and then I'm good to go
caestus is mainly for punching and cheap regen, don't worry
>>184328438
>bare fist doesn't skill and parry
>instead it's skill and a worthless punch
If I wanted to punch shit, I'd get caestus
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>>184328527

If your weapon has a useful WA but is better used 1-Handed, you go with a WA shield. Straightswords tend to fall into this catagory, as does the Washing Pole due to its 1h attacks having more range, as well as parrying being possible with the WA itself. Millwood B-Axe is another. it has its place with spear weapons, allowing you to turtle defensively and then chase with the WA. Basically, any weapon you feel might be worth using the 1-Handed moveset for

Honestly, I tend to use parry shields a lot less, only really having them for a bit of regen as a general rule unless there's a weapon I know I can get consistent parries on. I tend to prefer trade oriented weapons such as Greatswords, spears, etc; so having a shield that makes people less likely to play aggressively tends to work against me. That said, if you've got the room for one, it can be well worth having if, say, you have a weapon that can really take advantage of it
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Ds1 emotes are fucking PIMP
why do we have those boring sims shit on ds3
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>>184330114
lowest common demoninator and pandering.
it runs through the entirety of DS3. how did you miss it?
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>>184326218
link
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making a vicar rowland
lothric knight gs
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Is there something broken with the Blue Sentinels and Darkmoon Blades? I can't really get summoned. I try to hang around in the areas with hosts of my SL, but I get nada. I'd rather not farm the silver knights.
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>>184331427
For fucks sake, just I posted this I got summoned. And the fucking host just runs to get gangbanged by giants.
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>>184329426
why not use greatshields and pikes?
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>>184331913
We used halberds for a bit because of the DPS but I'm forcing him to use a pike now, we want to get the eagle shield asap.
Should we just abandon faith, we put no points in it yet.
I'm realizing that spears require yet another boring STR/DEX build.
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>>184332191
If it's just for the DSS, yes. The only thing DSS has going for it is style. Unless if you don't care how much you level
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>>184332430
All the spears are shitty weapons but we're just doing a grunt shield+spear thing but wanted to use the DSS to mix it up because quality is pretty boring by now.
We were just gonna barely have enough END to wear chainmail, the shield, spear, maybe a dagger.
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Incrase radius of hunter charm of 50%
yes/noo?
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pls r8 my ds2 build
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>for for a parry, miss
>guy stops fighting and claps
Yeah God forbid attempt to parry, ever
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>>184285734
>DaS3=DaS1
what a shit taste.
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I need the ultimate lvl 70 shenanigans invasion build, cheap fast damage, obscuring silvercat, gaels Xbow, you name it, I just want to be as annoying as possible
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>>184332640
>All the spears are shitty weapons
Silver knight and demon spears are great. Any spear but dss is a good weapon because of how little recovery they have. DSS is only bad because it's heavy as shit and its damage doesn't justify the other horrible stats
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I'm playing Dark Souls for the first time. Recently defeated Chaos Witch and is heading into Sen's Fortress.

It feels like I don't do a lot of damage to the serpents. Did I mess up my build?
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>>184332930
Yeah, DS1 is painfully overrated trash.
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>>184333118
This is the equipment I'm currently using.
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>>184332862
>shitter losing
>chugs his estus and starts parry spam
>clapspam him
>he goes for an r1
>parry and 1hit him with hornet
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>>184332862
If you stopped attempting, his mindgames worked
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>>184333118
Your upgrade is more important
>>184333240
Why increase your physical stats if you're going for raw? I'd recommend farming some large shards to get your weapon to at least +7 normal. Against the serpents try using the 1h strong attack or just parry/bs them. You can also kill most of them with the traps in sen's funhouse
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>>184333323
Didn't have to since I backstabbed him after he attempted a katana parry, but that could definitely fuck with people
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>>184333240
revert your weapon to normal +5 and buy enough large titanite shards to +10 it when you meet the merchant in Sen's fortress
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>>184333464
What does raw mean? I kind of upgraded it without thinking and have no idea.

Do you know a good place to farm large shards for where I am now?
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Any of the dragon weapons in DaS1 fun to use? The Dragon UGS, and Dragon Axe seem alright but those requirements make them mid game only really. Like there's a small window they'll be usable and outclass other weapons.
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>>184333960
drake sword aka the strongest weapon in thegame
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>>184333960
moonlight greatsword
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>>184295141
>>184295182
>>184295579
Dude, Wyvern was easy. I just breezed through the sneks at my own pace and he didn't fuck with me too much. Tee bee aich Wyvern was a big help by blasting a few of them.
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>>184325149
Pvp has always been garbage until we found out we could cancel attacks in dks2
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>>184333823
raw removes all scaling from a weapon, leaving only high base damage, but since you have pretty high stats, a +10 weapon will suit you much better
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>>184334646
Oh shit. I better remove that asap. Thanks for helping out.
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>>184334646
>+10
I think you mean +15 my man. why stop at 10?
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Is clapping the greatest mindgame of all in dark souls 3?
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>>184334771
Did you put all that endurance + Havel's for fastroll ? If not necessarily, you could definitely afford to wear some heavier armor, poise can help a ton.
>>184334807
He's not getting to +15 before a while, anon
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>>184335046
I thought he had just killed little twiggy, not kellogg. my bad
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What's the general consensus on players using CE to slighty boost their stat so they can have 2300 HP at SL120 and take very low damage? In a manner that if you're nto paying attention you wouldn't notice that he is cheating
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>>184316231
I hate farming in general for soul games, and farming two blue flames AND the pushup bra was fucking awful. After farming cov drops in ds3 I've come to realize that I think they use true rng for their engines. Really good from a mathematical standpoint, but complete ass from a gameplay one.
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>>184335243
fucking cunts.
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What the fuck is this Sinh fight? This fight is only 10x harder than it should be because Sinh is flying around the stage for 80% of the fight and his AoE fireball has a very unforgiving hitbox.
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>>184335501
>This fight is only 10x harder than it should be
Welcome to Artificial difficulty
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>>184335501
>sihn flies around
>run to the side

>sihn on the ground
>fight him like vordt

the fight is piss easy why do people have issues with it?
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>>184333115
So just quality build from here and grab the demon spear
WHY DO SPEARS SUCK DICK
We'll just be 100% co-op to compensate how inefficient we are.
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>>184335660
>because Sinh is flying around the stage for 80%
he gives me limited time to actually hit him, especially since I'm melee its a coinflip whether I get to him in time to hit him before he goes "nope" and starts flying again.
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>>184335243
What makes you think people won't notice? Don't be a cunt. I don't mind cheating, as long as it's either to make a build (except twinks) or for something creative, like that dude who was cosplaying the pursuer, with the spells and everything. And remember, bosses don't use estus or roll
>>184333823
You can buy them close to the end of sen's or farm them from leeches in blighttown or slimes in the depths. Or, if you have the skill and balls, go drain new londo, farm dankwraiths for chunks and break them into shards with frampt
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>>184335243
>what's your opinion of people giving themselves unfair advantages in PvP?
Hmmmmmmmmmmmm thinking
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>>184335913
are you playing vanilla because he almost never leaves the ground for me on SotFS.
just bait an attack and smack his legs. rinse and repeat.
now ancient dragon on NG+ with BF is a pain in the dick if he doesn't play nice
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>>184335046
>Did you put all that endurance + Havel's for fastroll ?
Endurance to be able to roll fast and havel was just something I found when killing an enemy. What does poise do?

>>184335984
All of those sounds difficult. I couldn't even get to the fireplace in sen's before I died. Thanks for the advice though.
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>>184335243
the worst kind of cheating
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>the opponent can stagger you and do damage to you even though you land a succesful parry
>half parries costs all of your stamina
>you can roll with 1 stamina left
From pls. What the fuck are you doing?
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>>184335243
I think you should do your family a favor and blow your brains out tonight.
>>
I got a couple of stacks of various types of Souls in DS1, should I be using them or what I've been doing and crunching them when I want to buy/upgrade shit?
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So this might be a stupid question, but because you can parry 1H UGS, can you parry the RKPGS? From what I remember you can parry Farron GS even when it's """two handed""" and someone is using the L1 moveset, so why not the RKPGS? Not to mention charging attacks (Like the first L1) are like the easiest attacks to parry in the game
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>>184335984
Oups, forgot bragging
>1963 hp as a phantom
>with all that shit equipped
nah son
>>184336190
Leeches are pretty easy to farm
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>>184336190
Poise lets you not stagger when you take a hit. I'm a slut for plate and mail so I always have a bunch of it. Basically, it lets you trade some hits instead of having to dodge everything, though it obviously won't work against bigger bosses with weapons five times your size. Most enemies have poise, most bosses as well, and if you hit them enough you'll break their poise and stun them a little. With the heaviest armors, you can pretty much forget about dodging anything your size and just facetank their hits and trade back without caring. At least before NG+.
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>not all weapons have hyperarmour
>there is no point in using big boy armour if you arent using big boy weapons
This is why hyper armour is stupid af
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>>184336596
Holy shit that guy
nice job fucking his ass
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sl1 gael is making me want to blow my brains out. how do i find the will to continue trying, /dsg/?
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>wear full havels
>get staggered by arrows
nice game
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>>184337090
Through sheer butthurt. He's a cunt, he's laughing at you RIGHT NOW. End him
>>184336884
>not all weapons have hyperarmour
>there is no point in using big boy armour if you arent using big boy weapons
This is why hyper armour is so good. Now, if it kicked in a few years earlier, it would be even better
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>>184336396
i save them for when i need to upgrade and buy stuff personally
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>>184336884
Armor is really good now for the absorption bonuses alone. My 30 vit build with 2 pieces of havels takes 5 swings from most ultra weapons to kill, and katanas barely do 200 a swing. Also see >>184167953
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>>184328697
>>184330439

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3Wa4bx6t-A
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>plunging attacks from very high do very little damage
There goes the myth of "USE LE GRAVITY TO YOUR ADVANTAGE XDD"

Why fromsoftware hates people who want to play not casually.
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>>184335243
If you cheat you're a cunt. Fuck, I think that the IT'S ALL OGRE-tier hackers who just hang out at Pontiff with a massive green ogre head curse killing everything are better than tiny dicked pricks who do it just so they can have a chance at winning in the arena.
>>
Holy shit DSCM does so much to help DS1's netcode. Before I was at 0 nodes, now at 24...

What the fuck were From thinking?
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>>184337942
I don't know, the game is just better off with it
I sorta wish I had the same control over DS2 or 3
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>you can walk while chugging estus
>if the opponent walks while you try to backstab him your character backstabs the air, giving your opponent good time to heal
>you can easily chug even tho there are a gank chaisng you
Did Miyazaki troll the "souls veterans". This game is designed for people who hate difficulty and dying.
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Hosting Vicars, pass dsg, post pontiff
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>>184337642
>Armor is really good now for the absorption bonuses alone.
protip: its not
https://steamcommunity.com/app/374320/discussions/0/351660338729691730/
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>>184338214
>This game is designed for people who hate difficulty and dying.
good job taking 1½ years to figure that out
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>>184336196
More like the best kind because you don't get caught.
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>tfw you want to make a new build but the thought of going through early game again makes you want to vomit
how i i remedy this, anons?
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>>184338672
CE
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>>184338672
visit mommy rosaria and give her O R A L
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Would anyone mind muling a few items for me? I'm on PC.
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>>184338882
How big is Rosaria's dick?
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you are all newfags can you please stop shitposting in /bbg/ you fucking niggers fucking kill yourselves
>>
Any of you near Crystal Cave?
I could use some help with Seath
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>>184338938
DaS3, of course. Oops.
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>>184337684
>plunge attack damage doesn't scale with distance traveled
>it doesn't even go off if you die from the fall
FROOOOOOOM
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>>184338340
The post is over a year old, and not even including VIT into the equation. Heavy armors received absorption buffs a while back, and the entire point of VIT is that it's meant to be paired with heavy armors to combine both the flat resistances and absorption. The OP in that post also tested damage on crossbow hollows, who do split fire/thrust damage. Two damage types that light armor is less weak against, and one damage type that heavy armor IS weak against. He should have tested it in PvP against somebody using a Standard damage based weapon for more reliable results.
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HOW THE FUCK AM I SUPPOSED TO DODGE GAEL'S LIGHTNING
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>>184338214
You invaders are fucking dumb faggots who think that invasions are a meaningful part of a Souls game's difficulty.
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>>184338312
be right there
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>>184339620
Just walk?
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>>184339620
Observe your environment more carefully, you fucking retard. How have you gotten this far into the game and not learned how to analyze the situation properly?
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>>184283738
How many of you Betas actually give money to people on Twitch
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>>184339620
>stand under giant MMO-tier warning spot
>take damage after standing under it for too long
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOW
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>>184339620
Hi DSP
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>>184338938
Anyone?
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>>184339620
>tfw you notice the white spots on the ground immediately after posting
>tfw you're a literal retard
sorry, anons. this post was made out of butthurt. accept my apology.
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>>184318598
She ain't real dogg.
Hit her.
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>>184340185
Gay
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>>184340008
I subbed to Epicnamebro for the P5 emotes .
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>>184340185
What do you need?
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Chaos or dark infused long sword for pyro build?
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>>184340398
Need 5 items muled from one character to the other.
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>>184338938
>>184340185
Sure, where?
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>>184340489
My red sign is down at the High Wall bonfire, pass is dsg.
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>>184340470
Place and pass
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>>184340306
No fair, summon me too
gold or white?
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What
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>>184340412
chaos
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>>184340827
haha, dummy
>>184340412
dark defense is less common than fire defense
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>>184340896
>>184340983
thx
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>>184340827
BAKA BAAAKA
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>>184340827
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>>184340603
Thanks, Alice!
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>>184341251
my pleasure anon
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>>184341132
I've met that guy too
Is there a way to quit without having to alt+f4?
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>>184341132
I've also met that guy a few days back
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>>184283738
first time I ever noticed, but is pursuer wearing elite knight helm? and Havel gloves?
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>>184341521
i unplugged my ethernet cable when i found him
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>>184341521
unplug internet
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wooaah
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>>184341816
pretty right
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>>184341816
woaah
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>>184340306
What sl?
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>>184341714
>>184341740
both can get me fucked right?
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>>184342050
uhm

no
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>>184342130
just dont do it alot
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>>184342142
>actually pretending that DS1 looks better than DS3
come on, now. your hipster tendencies have gone too far.
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>>184341132

>my world, my rules :-)
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>>184342302
not him, but it looks like ass
depth isn't even correct on those particles
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>use red eye orb in snowfield
>end up invading in archdragon peak

wtf? does this ever happen for you guys?
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>>184342302
>DS1
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>>184341132
Why would you ever willingly play these games on PC when you know shit like this is a regular occurrence?
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>>184342302
this one >>184341816 has contrast, colors, depth and artistic direction, with some things standing out so the observer's vision has something to "latch on"

this one >>184342050 ( or this one >>184342501, or pretty much anything in das3 ) is just a noisy, blurry mess of grey mud, with barely distiguishable objects, non existant direction ( hurr its grey cuz its "fading" ) and visually tiring because nothing stands out, everything looks the same.
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>>184342130
nop
I've been alt f4 for weeks now and not even temp ban, still got my white circle
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>>184341816
Pick one theme

youtube.com/watch?v=wskmVPZBalw

youtube.com/watch?v=2llS87avh2w

youtube.com/watch?v=p9hoAyx3-0I

youtube.com/watch?v=5_FZm1gYrt0

youtube.com/watch?v=c1lYpEb8gcM

I like majula the most
Eerie and comfy
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Gotta scram for a bit
>>184342513
No, but once I placed my sign for Vordt and when the host summoned me, he dragged me all the way to the ringed city to fight Midir
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>>184342683
>regular occurrence

never happened to me.
also lucy....a console pleb. guess I shouldn't be suprised really
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>>184342956
>DS3
>not Secret Betrayal as hub theme
How gay can you be?
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>>184342956
DeS > DS2 > DS1 > DS3
Don't have a PS4 because it's an awful investment for the 2-3 games i would want for it
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>>184342956
torn between majula and das1 firelink
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>>184343042
I own a PC too, kiddo. It is just reserved for single player games.
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>>184343042
>dude it never happened to me so it's a rare occurrence
Not an argument
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>>184343042
filter and ignore like the rest of us. much more sanitary, whatever that means around here
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>>184343104
>Secret """Betrayal"""
>it's actually the best for the world
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>>184343207
This looks like somethng straight out of my Japanese animes
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Oh look. It's locked behind online content with a very low farmrate if you don't. thanks a-fucking-lot from.
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>>184343256
>get rekt
>pretends to filter me instead
LOL

>>184343207
Exactly. If it was rare then we would get the constant flow of clips like yours, and people wouldn't see it constantly happening to streamers live.
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>>184343639
Good, I hope you suffer you achievement whore.
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>>184343163
>being this paranoid
Do you think everytime you get rekt it's a hacker?
>>184343207
but it is a rare occurrence....4me
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>>184343513
People who you kill while doing it probably aren't going to be that appreciative.
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>>184317782
ayy i think i recall the name
did you see how the host died?
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>>184343708
Pretty sure ending up cursed means it was a cheater.
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multiple enemy encounters are bullshit in these games because enemies don't interact with eachother in fair ways, ornstein and smough isn't a 2v1, it's two separate 1v1s happening at the same time
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>>184344041
they can bodyblock each other though

even in case of O&S, ornstein often gets stuck behind smough
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>>184343853
>he doesn't know about curse builds
>he can't defend against curse builds
>probably can't even escape a fettuccine flashdance

FULL PLEB
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>>184344041
We know. That's why people generally try to pull enemies one at a time and why people tend to talk so much shit about DaS2 ambushes. 2 at a time is manageable though. More than that is when it starts becoming problematic.

>>184344149
Except they can attack directly through one another.
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>>184343042
>>184343708

Get off it dude, you've lost the argument already. Anybody who's ever played DS3 / DS1 for any decent length of time online or has watched streams knows that it's full of hacking dicks and due to the ease of CE usage, it's not even rare.

Might not be for you, but if you're saying it's rare for everyone you're just ignorant.
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>>184311083
Velstadt is from Shulva. He moved on to Drangleic after his old kingdom went to shit.
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>Going into a Sen's fortress for the first time
This maze is harder than any boss I've faced so far where the fuck am I supposed to go
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>>184344360
but there arent that many enemies who can attack you from behind another enemy and still reach you

in other words
__________________________gitgud
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>>184344465
up
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>>184344041
True
when ennemies can hit each other it changes everything
see how easy it is for a host to win a 1v 2 red chasing him but usually getting rekt vs two aldrich
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>>184344041
They actually fixed this pretty well in Dark Souls 3 and either give you a balancing element to the fight like the Abyss Watcher that fights the others and Lothric / Lorian being the same enemy in phase 2. And the Demons taking turns with melee / ranged.
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>>184344041
>ornstein and smough isn't a 2v1, it's two separate 1v1s happening at the same time
so wouldnt that make it a 2v2?
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>>184344513
>telling a tripfag to git gud
the dude trips because he's shit, anon.

>>184344405
>replying to 9 hour old post
????
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>>184344395
fuck off consolefag
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>>184344830
Not an argument
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>>184344535
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>>184302130
So basically Yung Maestro besides the poise
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>about 7 different Bloodshades invaded me last night
>all of them didn't know how to deal with a great club/P O I S E
>none of them bled me
>all of them attempted to gank me
>one of them BC'd out when their buttbuddies died
>another of them even did a slow edgy walk to me while buffing their claws
>killed him in 3 hits with my great club

I'm tempted to join in with the Vicars 2bh
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>>184302786
But Anon, there are many reasons to play DaS 1 even though it's old

>Better world/level design than DaS3
>More consistently fun and challenging bosses, rather than gimmicky ones like Mr. Break My Bracelets
>More enemy variety than DaS3

Don't get me wrong, I love both games, but the only reason we play DaS3 is because of more build variety, a better port, and it's PvP is more balanced and is not a circling attempting to backstab clusterfuck
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>>184345525
Join the purge, anon.
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>>184302786
i play DS1 because i don't care about pvp and DS3 is a really bland and linear game without pvp
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>>184342956

Gotta say, I know that DaSII isn't everyone's favourite game for understandable reasons, but it's easily got the best lot of music in the games

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYQrxnXD9zo

That music, when you think how long it can take to go through the entire game and get to it, got me feeling some kind of way the first time I heard it. Even moreso the last time I played through. Might just be because it sounds like something out of The Snowman but I honestly think getting to hear it is one of the best rewards the game gives you for completing a cycle
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>>184341816
Piss stained Gypsy village
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>>184346082
>one of the vicars just slides around

Nice internet you shitters
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>>184345525
>>184346082

Yes yes, there's tons of challenge to be had in overlevelling with builds suited to the meta to fight people with weapons that've been nerfed into the ground

I said it before, I'll say it again, if anything Vicars should be playing at a lower level for build parity considering the difficulties in proccing bleed, the insignificance of the damage done, and the sheer fact that making a bleed build for 120 is damn near impossible to do and make it viable

The way vicars were done made sense several patches back when FAI was underpowered and bleed was ridiculous especially in teams. Now it's basically a case of Vicars looking like they couldn't beat a bleed build of all things without overlevelling
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>>184316231
You can get MLGS before blue flame.

Just go for a normal spellsword build and then incorporate blue flame later when you reach undead crypt.

>>184316564
Power stance (you can powerstance shortswords at the start of the game if you want)
Poison, twinblades
Hexer (with crypt blacksword)
Warped Sword power stance
Grand Lance + Leo Ring
Ultra greatswords in general (very viable in DS2)
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Do ripostes count as thrust damage?
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>Orstein can stab you through Smough
>Orstein can lightning you through Smough
>You can't even fucking see Orstein
>The camera is fucked up
>Smough is completely invincible while tunneling, does it 3 times in a row
>When Smough is on his last sliver of health he completely blocks the screen and Orstein spams me
I forgot how bullshit this fight was. Would rather right Gwyn again, at least there's only one of him.
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>>184317741
DS3 elemental infusions are fucked, except for blessed.
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>>184346183
this
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>>184322402
The game is designed for a controller. They didn't even add proper KBM bindings until DS2 and even then the game is clearly not designed for it. From doesn't make PC games.
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>>184325149
souls has always been a pve game, not a pvp game.
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>>184346648
t. edgy katana faggot
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>>184347094
It's been both since DeS. That's the point.
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>>184325149
>DS1
>best in the series
Nice b8 m8
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>>184346648
Don't listen to this blood shade
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>>184346110
9 playthroughs and I never skipped it.
>that harp
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>>184346765
>he thinks post-patch biggie smalls is hard
1.01 Ornstein was on PCP with every damage buff possible and smough hit for at least 50% more. you enjoy the shit you have
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>>184347187
t. crutch hoarder
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>>184347373
>faith is overpowered
get a load of this badshade
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>over 1000 hours put in across the five games
>parried+riposted by a an AI for the very first time today
>critted in the face by a generic skeleton
It didn't kill me, but I was very surprised.
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Why can't Gwyn produce sons that aren't traitors or girls?
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Does DS3 have active online for co-op?
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>>184343710
The "people" I kill doing that are 99.9% mindless zombies that can't really appreciate or frown upon anything
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No ENB today?
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>>184343639
>locked
You can farm anything offline. Even spears, which is a strictly pvp covenant with no cheevos and strictly pvp rewards and items can be farmed offline
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>>184348097

falchion skeletons and that one exile with the great club will go into a block animation and that's when you know not to attack because they've got flawless timing

Hodrick on the other hand is the parry king who will drop 2h and parry your attack without any warning
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>>184348187
Yes
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>>184348361
>with a very low farmrate if you don't
do you even read anon
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>>184341132
>>184341620

Doesn't that guy have Shrek as his name? I think I killed him when he was afk at Pontif a month or 2 ago.

Yesterday I invaded as alrich and it was other alriches, a mad phantom, the host, and his butt buddies all dicking around together not trying to kill each other. I played along for a bit then out of nowhere a huge explosion went off and bodies went flying everywhere in slow motion. I got a notification saying fps is too low for online play and had to use the task manager to exit. I never had this happen before did someone intentionally crash my game?

I'm sl 85 +10 and don't get much alrich connections but was getting them non-stop yesterday.
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>>184347287

Hey, I liked the event as much as the next guy, but the game has changed and the event either needs to change with it, or be replaced with one that makes sense with the current patch in mind

Like I said, it was great a few patches back when Vicars needed those extra levels to compensate for the gap in build strengths. I'd frankly be more interested in seeing something like a low level event, frost builds vs poison builds, something like that

I get people wanting to be involved if they missed out the last time, but the game is completely different now so there's still little point. Make a new event up, using less seen builds

>>184348019
You're kind of proving my point there for me, you've got a guy wielding a scythe of all things and you're hitting 150ish to play against them

And remind me, what's the current average damage for a DMB Spiked Mace/Splitleaf Combo again?
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>>184344395
Imagine being so paranoid and afraid of multiplayer games that you think the big bad cheat engine boogeyman will instantly come and curse weapon kill you the moment you step online.

Why is his subjective experience of not encountering cheaters very often less valuable than someone else's subjective experience of encountering cheaters frequently? It's shitty anecdotal evidence either way.

I'll happily play this game on PC knowing that I don't have to pay for some shitty subscription and switch up my build as often as I like with CE. Enjoy your "free" PS+ games and limited respecs per NG cycle. :^)
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>>184348494
>DMB Spiked Mace/Splitleaf Combo again
Two weapons and a Buff that Vicars don't use because they don't fit with the theme?
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>>184346648
They invade mostly at that SL.
Being high level ensures you catch most bloodshades, as opposed to just regular 120 invaders.
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how do people have fun being mages/clerics/pyromancers? sitting back and just pressing the pew pew button doesnt seem fun... can anyone tell me why people play like that i simply dont understand
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>>184348454
When I invaded him he was using "It's all ogre now" as his username
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>>184349036
that's only true for mage
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>>184346648
Vicars weren't overlevelling to get an extra advantage. It was a chain reaction
>bloodshades hunt gankers
>gankers seek as much of an advantage as possible
>they overlevel
>bloodshades go to 140 in order to not invade 120s, only the 130s that would be ganking (or at least that was the idea, many stayed lower to avoid the ganks. go figure)
>vicars hunt specifically bloodshades so they overlevel even more so that they are also only invaded by 140s (bloodshades)
I will agree though, I tried it a bit and it felt just like ganking. The fact that iirc we didn't actually get invaded by a bloodshade, only randos, hammered this in even more. The fact that I mostly invade and am used to be put against really tough odds probably plays a part. It's stupid easy, and as long as you don't do something stupid like a fully charged ugs r2 while on low hp you're literally unbeatable. Full estus, hp and fp at any time
>>184348452
Sorry, I'm blind, I read framerate. farm those ears, boi :^)
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>>184349036
Well, speaking from my own experience I can this
Playing a pyromancer/melee mix is pretty fun, spells like black serpent and combustion are pretty good mix for PvP and PvE wise you jsut nuke enemies with black flame or vestiges
I also played a sorcerer recently and while you do essentially pew pew from afar, doing coop and PvP can be really fun, more so PvP since you can't just trade the living shit of the enemy and you have to do a lot of memery with spells like deep cold and soulmass
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>>184348863

*Two weapons and a buff that -I- don't use

Again, you can't judge others by your own standards. Another person replying to me posted a webm featuring a blessed Murakumo of all things. Not met many eastern clerics in this game series

If everyone getting involved stuck to Lightning Blade and weapons you'd think a cleric would use, like maces and the like, it'd make a bit more sense, again if we ignore that Vicars are meant to level as high as possible to be at the edge of the Bloodshade range. But end of the day people getting involved to say they're a part of the event aren't necessarily going to look at it that way. All vicars need is Vicars in the name and a build using faith, maybe some fashion

I stand by what I said, the event needs to be retired and replaced by something that makes sense. Hell, the old Peasants vs Royalty event would still work. What about Watcher's vs the Abyss, builds using the Watcher and Follower weapons vs builds using weapons and spell connected to the dark, the deep, etc;

Or even Watchers vs Followers, that'd make sense from a lore perspective if that's of any import
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>>184349036
Mages are fun as hell when you learn to play them. Some of the sorceries have a lot of unique quirks that can create potential combos when you learn how each and every one works. The shittiest mages are always the soulmass/CSS spamming shitters with straightswords

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jeMxRoOFrpw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQlskSiVLdo
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>>184322025
the first time i played was with keyboard, not even mouse
WASD + numpad
i was crazy back then i dont know how i made it...
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>>184349110
Wait I think that was actually the name he was using.
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Hosting for vicars right now, place your sign down post pontiff.
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>>184349547
>dark infusion melee build
>some nerd tries to parry me as i run up to him
>blast him with black flame
Never gets old.
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>>184345525
>>184346082
>>184348019
>>184349424
>>184350234
This is cringe
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>>184350367
t. bloodshade
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>>184350367
t. reddit
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Hey lads, I'm doing another play through or DeS, what's a fun build to try?
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>>184349830
>blessed Murakumo
Where? Also, there is a quite specific theme, there is freedom but especially spiked mace is against it and I haven't seen anyone use splitleaf. DMB is only slightly better than LB and for its color I wouldn't really like to see it. And I haven't yet
>>184350367
>try to talk reasonably with explanations
>greeted with *le cringe*
Get fucked, fag
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>>184349830
>Two weapons and a buff that -I- don't use
Nobody is using those.

The event you mentioned is not the same thing, it was a 1v1 tournament. You can't dictate what invaders will use most of the time, except when Bloodshades got created. Vicars were a response to that, with a build that directly counters their build. It was never about balance, even if faith is better now, it's their problem not Vicars'.

In the end it was always ganking, but the endgoal was always to make bloodshades mad.

The blessed Murakumo you meant was this one >>184348019? Because that's not a Vicar.
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>put my sign down for Elana to learn the fight, after 5 mins of waiting get summoned
>Host also summoned Steelheart Ellie
>Wait another 2 mins for host to hurry up into fog fate
>"You have been separated from the hosts world"
>mfw I bet the host thought I was an NPC phantom as well
>probably made me wait two minutes for them to look up how BSC works
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>>184350234
Pass dsg?
>>
For a UGS build in Dark Souls 1, what rings? FaP seems like an obvious one, but the second? Havels for heavy armor, but what about not heavy armor? Leo Ring for a Zweihander? Just a +15 Zweihander in a pure STR build
>>
died to a host chugging estus spamming r1, so close to killing him too

it never gets old in irithyll does it
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>>184283932
>SL150
That's crazy, longest I've ever reached is 120, I assume that 150 is just vigor up their ass?
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Nothing beats Majula's theme.
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>>184351112
150+ is basically just 500+ AR straightswords, 3 pieces of heavy armor per player and 100% chance of tears of denial in every match.
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>>184349110
Yeah, I met him yesterday.
I put on the aldrich covenant since I was getting 0 invasions in Corvian Settlement.
First invasion was him, all of my shit got broken. I think he tried to add me afterwards.
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>>184349942
Your build is trash. You complain about css yet are still spamming a nuke.

At any point when you were able to cast soul dedge you could have just erased someone with crystal soul spear.
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>>184350985

yes
>>
"I'm not streaming today because I hate my fans and Dark Souls II" - Epic Marcus, Pilum of the Community
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>>184351145
>4 invaders

What
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>hacker has been able to send me a malware from a simple invade
woah that's scary
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>>184351783
Or he just doesn't want to stream today
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>>184351643
When you cast CSS, you need to be sure that it has a 90% chance to land at least. When enemies are taking damage from somebody else they usually resort to roll spamming, and dodging CSS is piss easy even when you aren't timing your rolls. If you cast a CSS and it misses, the entire team will see that the nuking mage is there and turn to focus you. If you just harass them with great deep soul it's less noticable and still does 230-250 damage a hit, with only 9 FP cost compared to CSS doing 750 with a 40 FP cost.
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>>184352143
You mean a steam message? Steam was already on your system before that.
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>>184350734
>Muh community
Get a life cringelord
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Dark Souls 1 leaves a good impression and gets better the more you play it
Dark Souls 2 leaves a bad impression but gets better the more you play it
Bloodborne leaves a good impression and stays about the same the more you play it
Dark Souls 3 leaves a bad impression and gets worse the more you play it
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>>184346951
you are wrong

it's easier to move the camera around with mouse
you also get dedicated roll, sprint, jump, kick and leap attack buttons
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VpFDxeab-g8
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>>184352875
this is suprisingly accurate
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>>184351643
>still spamming a nuke
>not a single fired twice in a row
That's not soul dregs he's using you mongoloid, that's deep soul
>soul dedge
wew, EU hour I see
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>>184283738
How the hell are you supposed to beat Dagger users in PvP?
Dagger + Shield is impossible,they just keep their block up and can easily punish your attempts to poke them to death with chip damage,regardless of range
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>>184350234
ill get you haiden...
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>>184353875
dark/deep infused straight sword
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>>184353875
Counter backstab them if they're fishing, it works similar to dks 1. Just sprint behind them and do a 180 when they try to sprint behind you for a backstab. Kick sometimes works since they never put their shield down.
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>>184353875
curved swords, straight swords, caestus, parry, black flame, I could go on for a while.
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>>184353875
Knight Slayer Ring
Black Flame
Kick
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if you gave every boss in the game midir's stats in terms of damage and health who would be the hardest?
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>>184354710
Wolnir would literally be impossible, he would just move forwards until you got stuck against the back wall and caught in the death fog.
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>>184353875
I forgot to say,I'm talking about DS2
>>184354575
>Kick
I can't stress how horrible I am at doing Jump attack and Guard Break
Whenever I try to press forward+attack at the same time I just get a regular attack,while I randomly get Guard Breaks/Jump Attacks when attempting regular attacks
>>184354071
Why Dark specifically?
Is that a really good element for PvP?
Everyone I see just used lightning
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>>184352875
>Dark Souls 2 leaves a good impression but gets worse the more you play it

That's how it was for me. Forest of the fallen giants was a good level, but that was it.
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>>184355093
Good damage with the right stats and good chip damage against most shields
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>>184355093
in general dark is the element type people are least likely to have a lot of resistance towards, so it's better for chip damage across shields
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>>184355093
Lightning is resisted by endurance, which all builds have

Dark is resisted by faith, which only faith builds have
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>>184353249

He's unstoppable.
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>>184355427
>all dark souls pvp

Fitting filename
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>>184355419
>>184355409
>>184355286
Oh wow thats great,thanks anons
I have copies of my weapon just lying around so imma +10 and infuse em with Dark as soon as possible
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>>184352331
All I know is I've never seen dark magic builds do well at all in ds3. No clue why all you teenedgers keep trying to push the build.
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>>184353875
Attack second, trade damage with them.
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>>184355850
You're probably better off with deep infusions unless you already have pyro stats for some reason.

It also sounds like a huge waste of slabs. You only need one strong deep weapon to fuck shield turtles with.
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>>184353249
Wow that was awful.
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>>184356590
But dark magic is just a replacement for the few good spells that dks 2 added. It isn't meant to be its own tree for "dark builds", it's to help cover the failing aspects that sorceries have.

2 had Homing Soul Arrow which was really fucking good, but if they added that into 3 without changing it there would be 5 different soul arrow spells that all look the exact same, but 3 of them work differently from eachother. So instead of bringing Homing Soul Arrow to 3, they turned it into Deep Soul so it's easier to identify. I don't know what Dark Edge was supposed to be, but it at least has some differences in mechanics compared to Soul Greatsword.

I don't think a dark build would even work when there are what, 3 or 4 fucking spells in total for dark sorceries? Some of the dark spells are viable in certain ways but builds focused around nothing but dark spells just don't work. I've seen tons of anons try and I've tried to convince them not to. Every time they come back with "guys this build just isn't working, I give up".
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>>184357075
>>184353249
>>184355427
>>184355601
literally a broken dead game never intended for regular pvp with the worst netcode and balance ever put into a From software multiplayer game
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>>184357075
>a bad player calling a good player awful

wew
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>>184357503
Yeah, dark spells are just something that either a pyro or a regular sorc can use
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>>184356639
Thats usually my plan as I do a lot of damage with my powerstance , but the problem in this case was the chick I kept getting paired against never initiated the attack herself , so I was unable to trade damage
>>184356978
>Waste of slabs
This is DS2 im talking about,so farming for slabs isnt that hard thanks to Ascetics
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>>184357568
I'm not saying the player is awful, since he clearly isn't with all those toggles and ring swaps. It's just that the video is 70% backstabs and 25% parries.
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>>184357908
Then it clearly isn't awful. A bad player could possibly not comprehend the nuances.
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so why havent you joined the vicars yet anon?
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>>184358260
Because 120 is already overleveled as shit and 150 is just a disgusting abomination. I might try ganking one day though. 6 years of invasions and duels has damaged me
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>>184358248
the player isn't awful

the game is
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>>184358479
It's so awful it's the only one that has a cult following, right?
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>Play DS1
>Finally get to STR24 so I can one hand my pike with a shield
>in blighttown
>target the hounds
>I miss them with the entire combo while they are standing at the perfect range to get hit, and not moving at all
>Okay.jpg
Coupled with the insane amount of lag I get when 3+ enemies are on the screen, I can't get myself to continue playing this mess. On the PS3, so I can't even think of any ways to solve any of these issues.

DS1 just feels completely unplayable right now. What exactly is going wrong here?
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>>184283738
What level is the average PVP build? Like what level do they cap at?

I know in Dark Souls 1 it was like 100-120, is it the same here?
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What FCs are going on
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>>184357908
>It's just that the video is 70% backstabs and 25% parries.
>parries are the sign of a good player
Feels like I'm finally getting the respect I deserve
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>>184358260
Because it's cringe
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>>184358712
125
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>>184358473
>120 is overleveled
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>>184358582
a cult following doesn't mean good pvp. DS1 is the worst pvp game From has ever made. It's so bad that it's fun, but no one should ever take it seriously or think that being good at it makes you skilled.
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>>184358260
Because you guys are so shit you need to hack despite being a ganksquad that is SL 150.
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>>184358665
You can hit the dogs but you need to get the distance between you 2 right,either be incredibly close to them while targeting them or make it so you hit them with the point of your spear IIRC
But yea its bullshit
DS 1 is completely broken and annoying in so many ways but it can get away with it as its the 1st one in the series
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>>184358712
60-80 is filled with invaders if you want to also invade/darkmoon/sentinels/whatever. 100 is for both duels and invasions. 120-125s for primarily duels and a rare invasion every once in a while.
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>dueling randoms with red sign
>host runs around without attacking
>not until a minute in and another red summons that I realize it's an impromptu fight club
>fight the second red while the host summons a third
>suddenly the host lunges at me while the second runs off to heal
>host dodges a Sun Spear, which hits the second red, killing them both from the AoE
>third red avoids eye contact
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>>184358802
how is it cringe
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>>184358712

~125
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>>184358665
Blighttown has severe framerate issues. I think it has to do with mobs trying to path to you but having trouble.
You get similar framerate issues when you jump to places you shouldn't go, like where the cats spawn in Darkroot.
If you have the master key you can skip blighttown. If it's truly unplayable thats your best bet.
>>184358712
120 is probably the most common, but a lot of people here will call that "reddit" meta.
You can still get lots of activity at 100. If the build is invasion-focused its probably not a bad idea to stop there.
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>>184358248
Just because the player is good doesn't mean the video is as well. It's basically the same 3 second clip on loop, which is boring as shit to watch.
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>>184358473
>>184358826
>>184358712

>>184358665
Blighttown was kinda unplayable from release, since you can't install DSfix on PS3.
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>>184358927
ok
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>>184358927
but i need 20 ashen estus to heal
we arent using hacked weapons or anything
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>Accidentally kill the fight club organizer
>the trillion prism stones he placed to make the Iron Keep Bridge look nice are now gone forever
>Feel bad for the rest of the day
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>>184358957
>120-125s for primarily duels and a rare invasion every once in a while
Dude, what? I'm invading literally 24/7 with no downtime on SL125.
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>>184358983
>took a whole minute and another summon to realise it's a fightclub
Yes. But you were in good company
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>>184358782

The devaluation of backstabs also devalued parries.
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>>184359174
So do 125?

I'm just making a THOR character, with lightning and strength weapons, it's fun so far but I'm still leveling it up
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If I am going to play through Dark Souls II once, do I go with vanilla (I own) or sotfs?
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>>184358934
>its the 1st one in the series
It's probably more accurate to say it's the first one that the most people played.
It would explain why DS1 was able to lift/copy/reference so much from Demon's Souls and no one really bring it up or even knows.
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>>184359390
Oh, I'm not the anon you were replying to. I just enjoy butting into things.
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>>184359093
I love this bug
>>184359407
Sotfs has the most activity by a long shot
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>no hyperarmour on parries
So opponents who have fast enough weapons cannot be parried when they spam L1. WEW!
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>>184359149
Don't open CE in my garden ever again.
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>>184359501
I don't care about online.
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>>184358826
>sorcerers have almost softcapped health, softcapped endurance, 30 attunement and 60 int
>strength builds have softcapped health, softcapped endurance and 66 str which becomes 99 when twohanding
>dex builds have softcapped health, softcapped endurance and 60-80 dex
>faith has softcapped health, almost softcapped endurance, softcapped faith and 30 attunement
>pyros have 40/40 int/faith, softcapped health, and slightly less endurance than softcap, while also having only slightly less attunement than int and faith builds
I finally decided to level one of my characters to 120 and these last 2 weeks have been fucking miserable in pvp. Every person I fight has the exact same health and always takes the same amount of hits to kill. No wonder so many anons sound so burned out on dks 3 all of the time.
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>>184359149
>we're just infinitely spamming spells that are meant to be restricted by FP so it's fine
Just remove the cost while you're at it.
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>>184359073
An uncultured player might only see critical attacks played out in a vacuum, but not the interplay between the players.
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>>184359590
You don't care about good games obviously
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>>184359592
That's why I make weird builds.

I have a 20 DEX/60 LUK hollow bandit knife build that I absolutely love.
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>kill hosts phantoms
>the host starts to hover no animation until next phantoms are being summoned
nice game from! WHY YOU DONT PATCH THIS SHIIT
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>>184359590
Online is pretty important for the DS2 experience as the game is designed just for online
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What's a fun build in DS2? I never enjoyed the game but I'd like to.
It doesn't have to be something crazy, just something to build towards that doesn't make me want to gouge my eyes out.
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>>184360056
Poison builds are pretty fun, you can fuck around with butterfly set, whips, mytha's bent daggers and all that and watch your enemies slowly die.
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>>184360056
27/40 quality, powerstance bandit knife. Probably the most fun I had with dks 2
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>>184359937
Bandit Knife and notched whip are so fun
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>>184360056

Great Club.
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>cant punish estus chuggers
Nice game fromsoftware! You really dont know how to make a game cant you?
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are warden twinblades any good after the bleednerf?
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>>184359407
SOTFS.

You want the DLC. SOTFS is cheaper than vanilla+DLC, and also has a lot more NPC invaders and summons, with the DLC items integrated into the base game.

The enemy placement in SOTFS is more designed to path players so that they don't wander into really hard areas on accident. They turned Fragrant Branches into a form of consumable master key. You can go more areas easily, but you need a new branch each time you commit to a new area.

That's a lot of evidence in favor of SOTFS for pve-only. There's not much vanilla offers other than maybe slightly more immersive (but makes less sense) enemy placement.
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>>184360056
Also do what this anon >>184360184
said. Powerstance Manslayer with the poison buildup gauntlets always poisoned in 2 L1s. Plus both the poison build and bandit knife build scale with Dex anyway.
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>>184360205
>27/40 quality
>in DaS2
Confirmed for having never played the game.
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Guys I just had a thought.


The Soul of Cinder is the amalgamation of everyone whom ever linked the fire. Which is why Gwyn!Soul of Cinder is stronger than the original Gwyn.

Is that why the world is rotting? Because after so many linkers the Soul became so strong almost no Undead could best it, so the Fire went without Heirs for too much time and became too weak to reignite properly?
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>>184360379
They're kind of shit, sellsword twinblades feel like a straight advantage in every single way ever since that bleed nerf.
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>>184360335
They probably do but just don't actually care.
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>>184359407

Softs is the definitive version, plus its online isn't dead like Vanilla's. Many, for example me, like Vanilla more though, not all the changes in Softs were good.
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>>184360056
Pretty much every build in DS2 is fun
Personally I found 2x Broken Thief Sword with either poison or mundane to be really fun as that moveset was amazing
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>>184360421
The 27 dex is for powerstancing, not twohanding strength weapons. Strength was boring as shit in 2 anyway, besides lance/greatshield builds.
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>>184360056
Grand Lance
30/45 or 45/30 Hexer
Powerstance anything (especially warped sword)
Poison
Mundane caestus or claws
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>backstabs are almost nonexistant in PVP
Nice game DS3 lmao
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>>184360758
>Strength was boring as shit in 2 anyway
>best UGSs and hammers in the series

bandit knife only needs 5 strength to power stance
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>>184360795
>Power stance anything
Power stanced Scythes and Twin Blades are kinda a dissapointment due to silly animations,but otherwise I agree
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>>184360758
>says Str is boring
>suggests 40 Str anyways
>suggests 27 Dex
>when Bandit's Knife requires 17 Dex at most to power-stance
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>>184360921
>the most broken and OP thing in DS1 was nerfed in is sequel

why is this a bad thing
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>>184360758
Strength is boring in general in Souls
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>>184360921

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_DCpabclblc
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Never got into Dark Souls 2. Should I just buy SotFS even though I have the base game?
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>you dont ALWAYS get staggered when you are hit while you are rolling
Nice. Very consisten game!
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>>184359513
>>184359942
>>184360335
You literally do nothing but fucking bitch about the exact same shit every single goddamn thread.
Everyone who's played the game for more than 5 minutes knows there's problems.
You're just wasting oxygen.
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>>184359590
Online is pretty much the only saving grace of 2
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>even in full havels you dont have hyper armour on every weapons
LOL. Pathetic.
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>>184361272
If you plan on doing pvp, yes.

If you already own the DLC, probably not.

If you don't own the DLC, depends. SOTFS is probably cheaper than buying the DLC, and definitely is cheaper if you catch it on sale (the DLC never goes on sale).
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>>184360453
The world is rotting because the material to link the fire with has become abysmally shit and it's an unnatural thing to do in the first place
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>>184360923
>bandit knife only needs 5 strength to power stance
It was my dex build, so I also powerstanced manslayers, uchi, chaos blade. Chaos blade required 24, and I think I also used a curved greatsword. Don't remember which one, probably murakumo. Maybe I stopped at 24 actually. I had to wipe my mind clean after the abomination that was dks 2 pvp.
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>>184361370
Git gud son :)
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>>184361446
>he likes broken games

alright
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>>184361302
>>184361446
How many posts have you made this thread now? I count at least 30. Subhuman euros please go and stay go
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>>184361272
Always yes. It's $10 during a Steam sale anyways, and all the changes and fixes are well worth that price.
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>>184361457
>>184361272
SOTFS is 9 bucks on dlcompare
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>>184361446
>no hyperarmor on sorceries
>miracles only have hyperarmor with a specific weapon art
I miss Havel Sorcerer.
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>>184361302
That's because mid and fat rolls have 15 poise health, while fast roll has none. The more you know baiting friend.
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Is it just me or is Flynn's Ring useless in DS3?
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>>184361446
>wear full havels
>spam bandit knife for infinite hyperarmor and infinite stagger on other players, instant bleed build up, making R1 spam even more overpowered

you're a genius
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>>184358927
>>184358260
>openly hacking in pvp
WEW
E
W

Vicarfags confirmed trash shitters, you're the laughing stock of the general now
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>>184362056
Given how broken it was in DaS2, it's not surprising that they nerfed it.
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>the host has 30% more health even though he ALWAYS has two phantoms helping him
WEW!

>inb4 crying fanbois
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>>184362112

How?
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>>184362112
Eh. The original Vicars were great, the only hacking done was to reach SL170 in the first place.

The point wasn't to give Bloodshades a fair fight anyways, it was always to rain on Reddit's fun. Which is why the present version seems shitty by comparison.
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>>184362112
VICARFAGS BTFO
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>>184362237
It's not supposed to be in the invader's favor, silly. You're just rabble that's in the path of the host and you have to be dealt with.
t. invader
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>>184361826
>MOMMYYY HE SAID MEAN THINGS ABOUT MY JAPONESE GAIMUUU ;___;
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>>184362309
It's just a stupid guy from the discord, don't associate him with us.
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>>184362237
>>184362401

It's time to have a break, Anon.
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>>184362056
pretty much. It varies based on weapons, but even with barely any weight equipped at all it's a pitiful damage increase in exchange for completely trashing your defenses.
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>>184341132
Can this guy get you banned? I heard he can edit your stats and shit. I shut my modem the split second I spawned in but still got the humanity stolen notification. I checked my stats and they were fine but several of my weapons and armor were broken. I have a back up save from a few days before it happened should I use it just to be safe?
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>>184361986
>fat rolls have poise
WEW. Its should be the complete opposite.
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>>184361986
Jesus fuck, is that why sometimes my mage could poise through a straightsword swing while my strength build always staggered? This shit feels so weird. Why didn't they just make it so your armor poise affected rolling hyper armor.
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>>184362373
>It's not supposed to be in the invader's favor, silly.
Yeah. Its should be in no ones favour. The host already has a huge advantage with his helping sun bros.
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>>184362808
anon, poise health is just a modifier, you still need to calculate the actual poise needed to not get staggered
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>>184362908
>Its should be in no ones favour.
But he's the MC of his own world, why shouldn't it be?
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>>184361826
>implying you can identify all of my posts
>>
>Two fallen knights hiding behind greatshields and backstab fishing
>No matter how many times I guardbreak and riposte they keep doing it
>Eventually run out of ashen estus and have to switch to knight slayer ring because I've riposted them so many times
>Finally kill the gold
>Host eats another two ripostes and then disconnects

wew
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>>184362908
And the invader has a huge advantage in being able to abuse mobs, and forcing the phantoms to act against their own self-interest in order to protect the host.

The purpose of invading isn't to kill the host anyways. It's to make the host and his buttbuddies want to kill themselves.
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>>184362373
>>184362908
The souls games really were more enjoyable when invaders felt like actually threats that could slow your progress. In DeS and DaS 1, invaders felt like randomly spawning minibosses in areas, while invaders in 2 are just annoying flies who won't stay away from your face and invaders in 3 are free estus for your army.
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>>184363147
Invasion 101:
Silvercat Ring
Obscuring Ring

Congratulations! You Win!
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>>184361909
>getting hit as a mage

Get good. You are playing wrong.
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>>184363346
>>184363346
>>184363346
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>>184363129
You've made about 20-25 of the exact same post in this thread alone. You type like a russian/BR, and really easy to pick out.
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>>184362674
How it is:
>Fast roll: 13 iframes, no poise, short recovery
>Mid roll: 13 iframes, poise, longer recovery
>Fat roll: 11 iframes, poise, longest recovery

how it should be:
>Fast roll: 13 iframes, no poise, short recovery
>Mid roll: 11 iframes, no poise, longer recovery
>Fat roll: 11 iframes, poise, longest recovery
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>>184350696
Knight mode.
>Start as knight (obviously)
>Wear the fluted armor at all times
>Default sword and shield until you can get the knight sword/shield in 1-4.
>Crescent/Half/Late grass only
>No Magic
>Firebomb only allowed throwable if you have to
It's fun and even had a template picture that I've lost a few years ago
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what weapons that aren't dragonslayer stuff fit well with the dragonslayer armor (esthetically)?
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>>184363367
>get good
>as said by someone who needs NPCs to even hit an enemy
Such skill.
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>>184362112
If you mean the no fall damage, check the end frames. He hit the grape's corpse and slid off but didn't touch the ground before the webm ended
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>>184363789
meant the iron dragonslayer armor
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>>184363147
Some mobs are capable of hurting invaders for odd reasons. Corvian knights, Harald Knight etc. The mob argument is valid, but only in non-dlc. The footage isn't accurate though as the harald knight was seeded.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3dhPmxQBAOs&list=PLwa35xBzD87I7snSEzamzMHPE9Vd87PTj&index=35

Whatever advantage the invaders have, however, is negated when the host and his summons are 20 levels above the invader.
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I'm aware that Imgur.com will stop allowing adult images since 15th of May. I'm taking actions to backup as much data as possible.
Read more on this topic here - https://archived.moe/talk/thread/1694/


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