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No nerf today faggots.

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https://twitter.com/shadowversegame/status/887244868245798913

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>>184280191
>tfw no elizabeth duelist gf
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plz forgove here free pax
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THIRD FOR CERB'S FAT DICK
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>>184280191
>big fat tits
Good thread OP.
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It's time. Where are the fucking nerfs?
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DUDE LANDS OF WONDERS LMAO
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>>184280385
post full anon
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FUSHIGI NA SEKAI
SUTEKI NA SEKAI
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>>184280469
>posting something that happens every game
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>>184280606
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>>184280726
Why do you keep posting this? The artstyle is fucking garbage.
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>>184280359
fuck mentally ill faggot
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>>184280808
t. Goblin
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>>184280917
Wouldn't a goblin want to fuck her?
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>>184280359
I want to suck.
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>lies to the players
>incompetent as fuck
>a-a-at least it isn't p2w
SHADOWBABS?
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>>184280808
Not everything needs to be perfectly drawn.
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first for storm haven with no legendary lion, no aegis, and no snow
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>>184280359

Fenrir is a cute girl (male)
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>>184280808
Its roughness has its charms
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>>184280234

b-b-baka
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Gibb de nerfs
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>>184281065
Does he get dicked by cerb every night?
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>>184280191
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>>184281318
Why is ginger blonde?
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you thought there would be nerfs? too bad!
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>>184281252

Against his will, yes.
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>Haven't played in two weeks, waiting for the nerfs.
>No nerfs today.
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>shadowbabs ERPing the pain away
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>>184281574
Suck my cock retard.
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>>184281179
Why did Japs fall for her but almost completely ignore girls like lolisquisher and thighssassin.
Where is their fan art?
This is like the only one I've seen.
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>>184281401
Her hair color is between blond and brown.
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>>184280501
I don't have the full sized one saved, sorry anon.
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p-please gib forte meta
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>>184281684
Why is she so pretty in the evening sunlight
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>>184281773
She's pretty no matter what.
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>>184281624
don't be pissed at me shadowbab it's not my fault devs don't care about you
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>>184281632
Holdover from RoB versions of characters who had personality and stories attached to them. Not that I played the games and know anything about their personalities, but a lot of the reason some Shadowverse characters are more popular than others is based on that precedence.

Aaand sometimes they just have Kanahana as a voice actor.
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>>184281632
She only got artwork because of a daily challenge on Twitter.
https://twitter.com/hashtag/シャドバ版深夜の真剣お絵描き60分一本勝負?src=hash
This hashtag tells to draw one of three cards in less than a hour and post it. Demon Eater was an option some weeks ago.
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DUELS HAVE NO END
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>>184281846
Cant argue with that.
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>>184281907
No, literally suck my cock retard.
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>>184282027
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>>184282250
that's a big forehead
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Why the fuck is Aegis affected by Elana? There's hardly any debuff worth using on him besides kaguya which sucks as a card and costs 1 evo but the most common possible way to buff him is easy and good by itself. What a fucking shit game.
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>>184282250
dumb turtle
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>>184280501
>>184281675
Found it. Here you go friend.
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>>184282087
ill refuse since im not an ERPing shadowbab
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>>184282235
Is there a full image?
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>>184282428
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>>184282397
You are a scholar and a gentleman
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>>184282343
>complaing about Elana
s-shut up ungashadownigger!
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>>184282492
This reminds me back when dragon and shadow used to be friends. Then ToG ruined everything.
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NERFS WHEN
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>>184282401
But you're an avatarfag, I expected you to ERP aswell.
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>>184282492
I wish that was me on the right. Thanks.
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>>184282606
The friendship ended with Khawy.
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>>184282730
>wanting to be a literal dogfucker slut
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>>184282781
There wasn't enough dragon or nepdecks being played in RoB. Most shadow players were aggro
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>>184282343
If the game gets to that point you would think that the deck built to draw the game out to that point deserves to win.
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I don't want the meta to regress to Ouroboros cancer please.
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W H E R E T H E F U C K A R E T H E N E R F S
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>>184282857
https://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=60356342
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>>184282967
t.spawnigger
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>>184281632

This is the most passable fanart of lolisquisher I've been able to find. It's a damn shame.
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>>184282949
that doesn't address his question but nice post hag
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>>184282967
>complaining about 8pp demonic strike
I wonder whos behind this post?
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Reminder that dragonshitters have been lying in wait to shitpost this general to death like in ToG.
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>>184282250
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>>184282492
why is the doggo blushing?
is she in heat?
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>>184283227
Is that Momo?
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>>184281846
I want to suck mama forte's tatas.
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>>184283292
Forte is very cute. Hard not to blush around her.
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>>184283115
You didn't look hard enough.
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>>184280191
>>184280191
i like this thread already
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>>184283354

It is.
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>>184283452
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>>184282250

My wife, Otohime, is so cute.
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>>184283354
>モモ
yes
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But why isn't there a nerf announcement today
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>>184283452

The perspective is beyond fucked up but thanks anon.
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>>184281684
Shorte meta's pretty bad. You're just getting run over and with their ramp it's not like wards will even help you half the time
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fogetting the nerf announcements, how long until the actual patch drops
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>>184281773
>>184281846
>>184282235

Shadowverse forte is such an elegant beauty
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We better get apology packs for roost and the meta being so shit.

>>184283853
Its always one "cancer" or another
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>>184283775
Sorry, but she's my wife and we love each other very much.
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>>184283942

Cow forte is a graceless whore but she has a very nice ass.
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>>184282492
WHERE IS THE YURI PORN WITH THIS 2?
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>>184283452
>>184283691
Do you have more?
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>>184283934
Literally read the OP.
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>>184283775
>Otomemer always dies first
>Can't even fix it with hurr just give them ward too since more often than not that's what you want to happen
>They just keep battering away at the opponent despite otomemer being dead as sage and alfrid drop
Bodyguards a shit
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Are you ready to worship your goddess next month?
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>>184284038
>porn
fuck OFF
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>>184284054
You can look at the artist's pixiv for some panels of his manga but, I don't have more, sorry.
https://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?id=7519221
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>>184280191
Best waifu
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>>184284149
funny that nep is the face of tog pre-built instead of eachtar
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>login
>practice neph deck for when they release precons
>lose to spawn
>check thread
>still no nerfs
Uninstalling this shit.
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NERFS

https://mobile.twitter.com/shadowversegame/status/89119157466678886
https://mobile.twitter.com/shadowversegame/status/89119157466678886
https://mobile.twitter.com/shadowversegame/status/89119157466678886
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>>184284623
>mobile
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>>184284623
amazing
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>>184284623
Kys
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>>184284623
>Eachtar's necromancy effect cost increased
YES
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>>184284623
Quit playing games with my heart.
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Nerfs will be out in 1 minute! I swear!
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Nerf announcement in a minute!
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>184284952
>184284956
>discord
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>>184284623
>Alice now only gives +1/+0 to neutral followers.
Woah
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God damn it, I got a second oz, I wanted a third Spawn or even an Alice so I can vial her.
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NERFS
https://shadowverse.com/news/?announce_id=336
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https://shadowverse.com/news/important/news-0139
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>ouroboros nerfed
>eachtar untouched
>ALICE UNTOUCHED
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>Wake up
>No news
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>>184285098
>its real

HOLY SHIT
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>>184285178
>>184285098
No Eachtar nerfs boys!
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>OUROBOROS
WHY
WHY
FUCK YOU CYKEKS
IM DONE
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game's fucking dead
good work cygames
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Nerfed cards:
Tove
Baphomet
Spawn
Grimnir
Ouroboros
Snowhite
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GURIIIIIMMMMNIR
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HAHAHAHAHA SNOW WHITE
HAGFAGS BTFO
OH MY FUCKING GOD
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>>snow white

Jesus fuck cygames
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>no shadow cards touched
>Alice untouched
>nerf to Dragon and Haven instead

Game over man, game over
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HOLY SHIT GRIMNIR, OURO, AND SNOW WHITE IM CUMMING SO MUCH
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THIS IS SO BADDDDDDDDD Baphomet nerf just killed every strat control blood had LUL
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>>184285456
The bias is fucking oozing.
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Thanks KMR, you're the best!
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>>184284623
>cabosse is now 6pp crimson sorcery+insight
>fairy dragon now deals x face damage, x equals to dead fairies
>abomination only needs 6 cards for free evolve and 3 damage now hits face
>b&b is now 6pp aegis clone, conditions drop, can't be killed except for stat change
>oz draws up to 7 cards, last word removed
>jabberwock doesn't pull itself
>corpse lord wakes up at 4 shadows, but auto banishes any shadow follower in hand, play and deck with pp cost greater than 7 except lotf
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Alice doesn't get touched at all. Another month of neutral aggro decks.
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Fuck this shitty game
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>>184285360
Baphomet dies for spwan sin :'(
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>games are still going to be 1-2-3-Alice
Nice, really nice
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>NO KEKTAR NERF
>HIT HAVEN AND DRAGON INSTEAD
Enjoy 2 months of mid-shadow, I'm fucking out.
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>>184285098
LE BALANCED HEADLESS MAN LIVES ON
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>>184285098
tfw didnt get baited this time
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HAGFAGS ON SUICIDE WATCH AHHAHAHAHAHAH
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The ouroboros nerf was actually needed because of the mirror match, tahts that i guess
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THEY KILLED BAPHOMET HOLY SHIT
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Shadow is back niggas
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>no alice nerf
HAHA NICE NERF KMR THIS GAME IS FUCKING DEAD AHAHAHAHAHA
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Who else /vialing9legostoday/ here?
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DRAGON META YOU SAID.
LIARS.
IT'S NOT FAIR!!!!!!!
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N-NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO DELETE THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I'm... very okay with this actually.

Would've liked to see Eachtar get a hit, and I'm not certain the one to Snow White was warranted, but I'll play it. Hopefully not having to tech for Blood anymore will leave room to tech against Shadow.
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>>184285710
Fuck mate, I already vialed my extra ouros
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>Alice didn't get nerfed

NEUTRALVERSE LIVES ON
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>mfw I'm buying the Dragon prebuilt
Time to build some new decks I guess. Going full Shadownigger this month with maybe some D-Shift on the side.
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>nerf Dragon and Haven
>don't touch Shadow
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There was literally no reason to nerf Snow White instead of Aegis
>Alice gets away scot-free
>neutral engine literally untouched
what a fucking letdown
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>alice is unnerfed
What the actual fuck
Just fucking push it to 5 mana holy shit

Fuck.
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>>184285859
They nerfed Goblin Leader, though.
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I crafted 3 snow whites from my extra vials on release. Well guess I get refund on that and 14k extra for abyss, ouro, grims and bronzes. Gee I wonder if I should craft 2 more Eachtars I am missing now.
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I welcome every single nerf there, but where the fuck are the eachtar and alice nerfs you fucking gooks
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>completely gutting baphomet
>no feria or alice nerfs
>no echtar nerf
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>Once Bloodcraft decks’ win rates and use rates have been adjusted, there is the risk that the next strongest decks—specifically, Havencraft decks that use Heavenly Aegis—will become too powerful in comparison. In the early July data mentioned above, the use rate of these Haven Aegis decks was second highest at 7.6%.

>Princess Snow White has been one of the cards powering Haven Aegis decks since the release of Wonderland Dreams. It’s extremely strong for a 2-play point follower, and we believe that changing it along with Tove will be help create the right game environment.

>Details of the Changes:

> • The Havencraft legendary follower Princess Snow White will have this defense in its evolved form:
Defense: 2

>Princess Snow White currently has this defense in its evolved form:
Defense: 3
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w-well, maybe storm ramp has room for forte now.
Forte meta!
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>>184285915
literally doesn't matter
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Alice was indirectly nerfed because of the goblin leader nerf. It will be a lot less consistent.
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>>184285691
Baphomet really needed the nerf. Even with Spawn brought in line, that card was bound to enable future bullshit someday.
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good changes, im happy with it. looking forward to how the game changes.
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>>184285915
Replace Goblin Leader with Gourmet in your neutral decks
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>>184285521
How so?
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>Eachtar missed the nerf hammer
>/svg/ cucks faces when
THIS HEAD CAN'T BE TAKEN
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>nerfs the Tier 0 deck
>nerfs Shadow's counters
>doesn't nerf Shadow again
This game is dead.
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>>184285962
A WHOOOPING 7% PLAYRATE, SECOND HIGHEST LMAO
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>>184286009
People will just play Khaiza instead
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Yeah, fuck dragon players for using the essential class mechanic.
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so does the game look salvageable now
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>Nerfing blood and every other powerful deck (dragon/haven)
>Shadow untouched

Enjoy 1-2 months of mid shadow! (again)
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>The City of Hags
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Who /gettingover20kvials/ tomorrow
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>>184286070
It's just baffling at this point.
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>>184286006
JP pros largely agreed that Goblin Leader was the most broken part of the neutral engine. An Alice nerf might've just gutted the whole thing into unplayability anyways. The goal of nerfs should always be to reduce a card's viability without killing it.
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>>184286009
yea that goblin change is HUGE for alice.

>>184286103
not as effective at all
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>nerf ouro
>leave eachtar untouched
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DRAGON KEKS BLOWN THE FUCK OUT. EACHTAR BACK ON THE MENU BOYS
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>>184286103
It isn't even close to being the same.
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ORO NERF WAS NOT NEEDED
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is there a more cucked card in existence?
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apparently 7% playrate was enough to get the hammer, wow
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>>184286128
Whoa, it's almost as if ramp is inherently cancerous
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Most of these nerfs were so obvious. Why did Uroboros heal in the first place? Why could Grimnir hit face?

No Alice nerf so neutral shit lives on. Goblin dropped for Gourmet, Shadow tier 1. Fun stuff.
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>>184286175
why? this game won't be fun again until you completely kill several fucking cards
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>>184286128
It was fine before Sybil but right now ramp has too much power to it and snowballs too fast.
>>
Someday they will nerf Eachtar and Sibyl, someday...
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WHY OUROBOROS IS NOT OK BUT KEKTAR IS FINE? WHAT THE FUCK KEKGAMES????? FUCKING SHADOWNIGGERS FUCK YOU KMR
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>teatime untouched
>alice untouched
>bkb untouched
>baphomet gutted for no reason
>ouroboros gutted for no reason
HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH
>>
neutral sword/haven will probrably be the best aggro decks, haven has banish for shadow which will be the best mid/control deck
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>>184286156
Right here my dude. Thank god cygames didn't nerf Kektar so I can go full shadownigger.
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I did it, I won!
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>>184286175
>An Alice nerf might've just gutted the whole thing into unplayablility anyway
Good, it should never have existed in the first place, Neutralverse lives on.
>>
What are you going to spend your tens of thousands of vials on?
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>Alice untouched

>Shadow untouched

>BKB and Sabreur untouched

>Dragon and Haven nerfed

Game is fucking kill
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>we collect lotsa data before doin anything, honest!!!!
>we nerfin dragon cuz....
>....
>it mite get outta control eventually dawg
Who /vialing entire collection/ here? This game is done.
>>
I'm sad they nerfed my boy ouro

R.I.P. the true unique control grinder deck of this game
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>>184286234
Oro nerf was more deserved than Snow White, there was literally nothing wrong with her
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Enjoy SHADOWverse
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>balance hits
>hey guys check out this sick new tech with all the nerfs
>still 90% neutral
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https://shadowverse.com/news/?announce_id=336
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AGAIN....!
AGAIN....!
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>>184286095
>>184286070
>midshadow gets nerfed 3 times
>people STILL cry about it
>nerfed grimnir still destroys eachtar
Eachtar is balanced and will never be nerfed
>>
Yall ready for 2 more months of SHADOWverse?
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>>184286439
t. Hag
>>
ahahahaha oh wow this game is dead, who else /uninstalling/ here
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>>184286405
I'm not. I'm not even going to bother playing this month. Just login to collect my vials and the desperation packs they're going to start giving away in a week when they realize they fucked up again
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Oh well its dumpster tier for forest and sword for another month as long balanced man isn't nerfed.

Didn't dragon dropped ouro and just went with polymemes?
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>>184285098
>Baphomet can't reduce cost anymore.

My fucking sneks are useless now.
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>THEY ACTUALLY NERFED BOTH BAPHO AND SPAWN
WHAT THE FUCK
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>>184286095

THIS HEAD CANT BE BALANCED MOTHERFUCKERS. BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>Snow White nerfed
>Alice unchanged
Welp, time to play Neutral.
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>no alice or eachtar nerfs
>nerf haven and dragon
OH WOW I WONDER WHAT CRAFT WILL DOMINATE NOW HMMMMMMMM
>>
>just got a full animated tove set today
>he will become worthless next week
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>>184286508
t.Shadownigger
>>
>Ramp Dragon got nerfed
>Shadow untouched

So we're basically going back a more terrible version of totg
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>>184286431
>he doesn't watch the 30min Ramp Dragon mirrors in tournaments
get raped dragonfag. Back to memes.
>>184286439
>n-nothing wrong with a 1PP 2/3
get fucked hag. Teatime should've been 6PP too.
>>
>snowwhite won't be nerfed they said

SUCK MY DICK HAVENKEKS
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>>184286542
What the fuck were they thinking?

no one complained about baphomet during ToG did they?
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Yes Shadowbros we will rule again!
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>>184286542
>yfw after you read about the nerfs
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>>184286539

Neutral sword might actually be good now with Alice avoiding the nerf somehow.

Neutral Rune might end up being pure cancer.
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>>184286646
>he doesn't watch the 30min Ramp Dragon mirrors in tournaments
What did he mean by this?
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>Ouroboros got hit
>Eachtar untouched
Literally why?
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>>184286628
We're walking in circles.
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>>184286646
SW is 2PP
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>>184286539
Ouro is way too good to be dropped.
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To be fair Alice don't actually need nerfs. No neutral decks other than Nblood are revelant. Killing Alice will kill Sword and Forest because neutral is their best deck.
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Rip baphomet,may he rest in peace
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Eachtar is back boys
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>quit after the TOTG nerfs
>come back
Fuck, I don't have 3 copies of grimnir since I vialed them all the last time he escaped the nerfhammer
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Well I guess it's safe to craft Alice and start playing neutral now. Too bad they didn't just remove Baphomet's enhance.
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>mfw Baphomet can pull Baphomet
>mfw Baphomet is nerfed into irredeemable garbage
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>haven nerfed for literally no reason (7.6% PLAYRATE HOLY SHIT)
>snow white nerfed instead of aegis
>alice untouched despite being the reason why neutral is broken
GOOD JOB KMR YOU KILLED THE GAME
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>>184286610
>a nerf to a 1/2 haven card(irrelevant) and ouroboros(no longer played) will somehow make shadow jump to 30%playrate
>but not sword and 1pp 5/8s on turn 4
>but not forest and alice bouncing 7 times (which didnt get nerfed)
>but not neutral dragon which was literally untouched

Shadow is dead and you're complaining about a nonissue.
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>>184286707
>Neutral neutral neutral
I fucking hate this expansion
>>
>SPAWN NERFED BY 1 DAMAGE
>>
Crafting my third Eachtar right now.
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>>184286539
No, it was still in the deck. Now they run Ursula for 14 -18 face damage
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The secret beneficiary of all the nerfs is this bitch right here.

Hope you guys ready for neutral rune cancer meta.
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>>184286729
exactly what it says illiterate faggot.
>>184286742
split the cost moron.
1PP 1/2
1PP 2/3
it's actually stronger since it gets rush too.
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>shadow dicks are finally back on top
feelsgoodman
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>>184286658
Because it was only pulling memes and not good cards.
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LEGGOS NERFFFFS
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>>184286885
Spawn doesn't get more damage on evolve now
>>
Eachtar should only give +2 to zombies and ONLY zombies. Not any other follower on board, literally only zombies.
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>alice and everything related to shadow is literally fine
>t.cykagames
no way this is real
>>
Do you rike it?
>>
Anyone else pissed that Alice got indirectly nerfed so we can't get full vial refund?
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>>184286061
Well bapho/temptress was the big play for control blood IMO, now its in the gutter for no reason
>>
Spawn and Snow nerfs are so unimaginative and stupid. Really makes you wonder if they think much about it. His face damage ability isn't tied to his base attack anymore and only 1 attack on evolve makes no sense.
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>>184286707
I'm more amazed they increase cost for gob leader and increase its stats to 2/3. With neutral sword, shit should not conflict with cindy or rabbit, although it's gonna compete with slacker slot.
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So is there a reason why people are crying about Eachtar? I haven't actually played the game in about 2 weeks, did shadow crawl out of the grave mid-season?

Anyway, I'll try playing the game again to see if the nerfs improve the meta. Also, reminder that the new dragon pre-con comes with an Ouroboros and thus, at least 3500 vials.
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>>184286939
Young Levi is the zombie purger too.
>>
>still no buff to sword
FUCK YOU KMR
>>
>>184286960
I bet you think Attendant of Night is broken too
>3PP 5/5
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>>184285962
>there is the risk that the next strongest decks
>Haven
>Not Shadow
What the fuck is wrong with these people? Everyone is running Blood and Shadow at tournaments not Haven
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>>184286885
Spawn won't be coming out on turn 6 anymore so that's a huge nerf by itself.
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>>184286885
3 less evolved and you can't play it on t6 anymore so control blood not in aggro decks anymore I guess or hope
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>>184286884

Hope you like CoCK, you'll be seeing lots of it.
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>>184286960
what did he mean by this?
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>ALICE AND EACHTAR ARE FINE BUT OUROBOROS ISN'T
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>>184287051
No, Alicecraft is still fine.
>>
>Grim doesnt hit face anymore
RIP JO dragon
>>
>>184287051
Neutralcraft got off scot-free, this is Prince Catacomb nerf all over again. This game is fucking dead.
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>ouroboros used as a finish
>A FUCKING 8 PP DEMONIC STRIKE
fucking garbage
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>>184286939
Phantom cat blood wasn't hit with anything the other neutral sets weren't with the Leader nerf. If neutral is still strong Blood will still be king.
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>>184286885
No extra damage on evo and no longer can be mana cheated or tutored reliably. He's fine now.
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>>184287079

Young Levi is already staple in the few neutral rune/Falise decks out there. Mark my words, this shit will be PURE CANCER
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Wait, Baphomet now draws any random Blood card? Way to destroy the tutor for Carabosse, Kikefrauds.
I guess it was a nerf for Phantom Cat too.
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I was right fags.
Hags get fucked.
>>184287087
Haven got 2 great cards and was already doing okay vs Shadow.
Shadow got zero (0) cards.
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>>184287204
You can't Bapho into cat anymore though
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>Grimnir is not going to get nerfer
hahaha classic /svg/ always wrong
thanks I learned to do the opposite of what you people say and starred it
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I'm extremely happy about the grimnir nerf, even as a dragon main. Ouro nerf hurts, but at least no more 30 turn mirror matches.
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>Havencraft decks that use Heavenly Aegis—will become too powerful in comparison. In the early July data mentioned above, the use rate of these Haven Aegis decks was second highest at 7.6%.

ah yes, its not like literally everyone was playing blood/shadow last JCG right? wow

>7.6%.
>>
Is Spawn still good or is it free vials?
>no alice nerf
wew
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>>184287204

>He thinks Phantom Cat will still be as oppressive without guaranteed cat pulls from Baphomet
>>
>Tove
expected
>Baph
I don't like, should have just lost the enhance effect.
>Goblin Leader
expected
>abyss
expected, but with this nerf, they over did it with the baph nerf
>Grimnir
decent, losing your last bit of life to grimnir was always annoying, and pendant dragon can fuck themselves
>Ourobos
GOOD, FUCK DRAGON AND THEIR UNLIMITED HEALS
>snow white
balanced, but now it feels too weak for a legendary

>Eachtar Untouched
Midrange shadow will be tier one again, fuck you cygames
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Nice value on the dragon prebuilt since it has Ouro and Grimnir.
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>>184286329
>Baphomet gutted for no reason
>Turn 6 Spawn that still does a crapton of damage isn't a reason

Anyways who gives a fuck let's all rejoice at Ouroboros's heal going to shit.

Fuck you Ouroboros you braindead asshole.
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>>184287298
We knew grimnir was going to be nerfed the moment ToG hit
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>>184287229
>What is Demon Eater
>>
https://strawpoll.com/9r8b866y
https://strawpoll.com/9r8b866y
https://strawpoll.com/9r8b866y
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Enjoy alicecraft
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WHY WOULD YOU NERF OURO
THAT WAS MY FAVORITE CARD YOU KEKS
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>>184287078
Good point on the free vials. Although the alternate card art of Waterwyrm is kind of lame.
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Luna no meta dayo.
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>>184287391
Just like we knew that Alice was going to be nerfed, right?
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>>184287331
I mean, you get full vials from anything nerfed right? Just craft them again if theyre decent later
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FALISE META IS HERE BOYS
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>>184287298
Yurius still isn't nerfed you fucking idiot.
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Well, at least I'll be able to make three new legendaries for funsies. Also fuck Grimnir, he deserves a bigger nerf.
>>
>be kmr
>play my waifu dark alice deck
>lose to ramp dragon all day with ouro stall and grimnir my face
>Das it nigga, nerf time
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>>184286849
its on par with dragon summoner 2/1 vs 1/2 stats same effect or with maid leader -1 stats but only commander
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>>184287392
Soul Conversion that does better in a different situation. Literally a card they already had.
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>>184287338
>thinking Eachtar will be played in turn4verse
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>>184287298
And people said that this star was retard
>>184287320
But the mirrors were fun
>>
Hey can I get a concede for dailies pls? 75245
>>
>they wouldn't sell nerfed cards they said
>>
>>184287451
Grimnir is shit now
>>
>nerf ouro
>nerf snow white
>eachtar is fine lol

Can't wait for midshadow dominance again.
>>
>Look at nerfs
>they are nerfing Ramp Dragon

Wait, why? Though, nerfing Grimnir does nerf the entire neutral curve as a result

At least Baphomet is only a fetcher instead of a guaranteed Spawn fetcher
>>
>>184286542
It could still be useful as a tutor if it couldn't pull itself. Now it's just crap.
>>
AHAHAHAHAHAHAH
>2PP 2/2 LEGENDARY

EAT SHIT HAGNIGGER
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>They fucking nerf card like Uro and Snow instead of retard shit like Eachtar and Alice
This is really stupid. Someone please tell me this isn't real.
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>>184287414
Alice is my favorite card and I'm glad she didn't get nerfed
The game may die but at least I can play her while it does
>>
>>184287436
Look at the archive. Everyone was saying the nerf will kill either goblin leader or alice and they did say legos will get nerfed
>>
>>184287320
same. Hope we can use the new legendaries next month now
>>
>nerfing cards an expac back when I already vialled them
Sneaky fucks
>>
is goblin leader even really that nerfed?
>>
>being happy about grimnir nerf
enjoy 30+ turns battles if theres no shadow in either side
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IF NEUTRALSHIT DOESN'T DIE OUT I'M UNINSTALLING THIS SHIT
I DON'T FUCKING CARE ABOUT EACHTAR ANYMORE I JUST DON'T WANNA PLAY AGAINST THE SAME DECK EVERY FAGGOT USES
>>
>>184287332
>He doesn't realize that Baphomet still helps to thing the deck by removing Bloodcraft followers and ensuring Phantom Cat draws Neutrals
Fuck you idiot KYS. You're so fucking stupid. I wouldn't be surprised if you achieve nothing in your life.
>>
>>184287561
because of tournaments and 10 year mirror matches
>>
No nerfs towards Swor-I mean HonestCraft
>>
>>184287568
Rip grimnir killer
>>
>>184287568
still can trigger dog on t3 and kill your 2pp or 3pp drop
>>
>>184287224
>I guess it was a nerf for Phantom Cat too.
Is it? Neutral blood will still be a thing, just weaker. They can drop Tove and Spawn now, leaving the only Blood followers to pull as itself, BKB, sabo, and cat. Ironically still a playable card in the one deck the brought the nerfhammer.
>>
>Ouro nerf
Seriously pretty pleased with this, but I can't believe they left the neutral engine almost completely untouched
>>
>>184287414
I'm fucking mad and now the ungagoys will be stronger
>>
>>184287395
The nerfs are good, they just needed to touch le headless man of balance and that goblin fucker as well.
>>
>>184287532
Damn that was fast, thanks
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>>184287561
They thought that, since they didn't nerf Dragon at the end of ToG, it would dominate since it had a high winrate then. They aren't wrong really. They just forgot that the second best deck right now is countered by both Dragon and Haven.
Enjoy SHADOWverse.
>>
>>184287523
He's still good so I don't see the point in starring.
>>
>>184287436
>expecting them to nerf a face of expansion

Kek
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>>184287618
You can't play it T3 and alice T4 so yes, it's nerfed
>>
>>184285098
TIME FOR BALANCED MAN DECKS!
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>>184287647
Baphomet is complete garbage now
>>
>>184287592
>implying balanced man will let us live long enough to use them
>>
>>184287204
no 3/3 tove and bapho cant tutor for cat
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>>184287790
He won't see play anymore
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>>184287561
>dragons infinite healing was fine!
t. dragoncuck

Be happy hagtards. Your precious balance aegis remains untouched and snow white got the hit instead but you know what will happen if haven gets in the t1 area which is inevitable to happen now with ouroboro not needing to be banished.
>>
>>184287204
baphomet nerf hits phantomcat slightly
>>
>>184287790
he's pretty shit now, the reach was the biggest reason to play him
>>
RIP baphomet
cant even use him to tutor meme dealers now
>>
Who here /craftingeachtar/?
>>
>>184287842
is like that shitty dragon tutor
just swapped stats
>>
>>184287923
get Fucked
>>
>>184285214
Goblin leader nerf is an indirect nerf to Alice, no one is going to run her now that you can't abuse her in the early game with a minimum of 2 followers.
>>
>>184285098
>>184285098

>Dragons cucked even harded with Grimnir and Ouro nerf
Fucking hilarious. At this point I almost feel bad for them.

>>184287229
>>184286439
>>184286147
>>184285962
The Snow nerf doesn't matter that much, she's still a 3x of for being able to guarantee trade with 2 drops, being able to take down 3 drops and most importantly, proc dog. Her not surviving "hurts" but really, once we get to T4 Haven still arguably has the best evos/mid game stall in the game.
Can't wait until there's spam here calling for Heavenly Hound nerf.


No feria nerf/Alice nerf? Get ready for neutral sword again.

Also, why no Eachtar nerf? We're literally getting >>184286095 come true.
Eachtar is coming back and it's going to be annoying as fuck.
>>
>>184287824
A shame now neutral deck will pack grimnir + angelic knight for their 3 drops.
>>
>>184287790
>He's still good
Not at all.

Boardclear was nice but pushing face damage was far more important. I'm gonna drop him out of midsword for sure.
>>
>>184287695
Oh right, I forgot that detail. So it is a complete nerf to the only consistency of Carabosse deck. Albertcraft was OK during RoB but I guess a deck relying on a legendary worse than a gold can't be a thing.
>>
>>184287842
tutors are cancer anyway, gobu was killed because you could just put no other 2pp followers for roach
meido should also be killed, people just used to put albert and nothing else, guaranteed finisher
>>
>2pp 2/2 legendary

yeah fuck this shit im done
>>
>they nerfed ouro instead of eachtar
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>
>>184287923
Died for Alice's sins
>7.4%
>>
I'm going to be playing kys Blood again, now featuring nerf dodgers like BKB.
>>
>>184287561
Come on, let's be real. Ouroboros should have never had that healing component.
>>
>no nerfs for BKB

Still not enough.
>>
>>184287948
He still can be used in extremely neutral-heavy blood decks.
>>
Why are dragons worried about Shadow when they still get to wipe out the board 12 times?

As a Roachfucker I'm pretty dead, you on the other hand still get to shit on the field until they run out of Eachtars but you don't have to worry about Tove fucking your butt anymore.
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>>184287546
I want that little faggot to be even worse. Even if they made him a 1/1 my anger for his existence would still not be sated.
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>hey guys, Shadow is the second strongest deck right now with the second highest tournament representation and a very high winrate, what should we do?
>nerf their counters, that'll surely save the game
>>
>>184287205
>tutored reliably
Bandersnatch
>>
>>184287961
and that card is shit too because now it's basically impossible to pull what you need
>>
>>184287996
>midshadow without shadow reaper and prince catacomb
>crying about a 5.5% playrate craft
>>
>Levi untouched

Looks like I'm switching to dirt
>>
>>184287982
>t1 goblin
>t2 any 2/2
>t3 grimnir
>t4 alice
Still impossible to deal with if you are going second unless you have perfect hand of removals.
>>
>no one even mentioned feria, balance knights or bkb
yeah nice knowing you guys
>>
>>184288184
>nerfing balanced ca-
>>
Blood is still retarded but now I guess its early game will adapt. Though I see Shadow emerging as the supreme overlords again.
>>
>eachtar isn't nerfed because they want people to buy shadow premades now that blood is dead
At least all the shitters will be back to shadow where they belong so the hags can farm them.
>>
So with this, predict the meta anons

I can only imagine that Blood would use Phantom Cat instead of Spawn instead
>>
>ouroboros heals removed
hows he going to be used now?
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>>184287546
He'll still get run, he's still a good 3-drop for non-aggro with Tove and Snow White nerfed. He's also still Sword's only good board clear.
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reminder that 7.4% is enough for your craft to get gutted
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>>184287561
Ramp dragon is a goddamn fucking cancer and shouldn't even exist in the first place. Once they decided to give all those goddamn heals everything went to shit. Be glad they didn't nerfed Sybil instead because this is the actual bullshit lego and not ouro. Ramp doesn't actually need ouro at all.
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>>184288275
Ouro is the pre-built as well.
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>>184288275
>eachtar in nep prebuilt
???
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>>184288184
Levi will save us from neutral sword and shadow.
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>>184288294
he isn't
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>>184288275
hey retard, Ouro AND Grimnir are in the Dragon Built.
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>>184288262
Baphomet got completely destroyed, Spawn Blood is probably dead now but BKB and Sabreur still exist and are untouched
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>>184288303
Only baph deserves an F
Tove and Goblin Leader can rot in hell
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>>184288262
At least it's not an instant lose against neutral blood at turn 7.
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>shadow is already easily the second best class right now
>nerf the one class "better" than it and the two classes below it

Hm, I wonder what the meta is going to look like now. Anyone have any predictions?
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>>184288275
is blood really dead, though?
so many of their strong cards weren't nerfed
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Is kys finally playable again
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>>184287923
F

REST IN PEACE DOGFUCKER AHAHAHAHAHAHA
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Reading their fucking blog it sounds like they are nerfing shit into the ground because they are scared that they might eventually be good. How does that even make sense?
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how the fuck am i going to play snek now?
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>>184288303
Good fucking riddance.
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>>184288303
>>184288303
good riddance.
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>>184288284
Midshadow tier 0. There is no discussion. This is the meta.
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>>184288427

cuck yourself blood and midrange hector
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>100% of matches in master are neutral blood

Talk about desperation
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With the nerfs considered, are the dragon and/or haven prebuilts still worth grabbing? Those are the ones I was looking forward to
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>>184288427
forest, they didnt nerf anything
get ready for ptp dread roach, true t0 cancer
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>>184288303
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>>184288440
Vengeance blood might come back but midshadow will be king again
>haven gets gutted for 7.6% playrate
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>>184287923
Fine with me, I'll take back my 10500 vials and go back to Mainyu or Reno in Storm.
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>>184286760
I think Aggro and Midrange Sword might see a comeback. They got good tools this expansion but they had an awful time with the Neutral Blood match up, they might be able to take advantage of a lot of decks now that it's gone.
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>people seriously though a 2pp 3/5 wouldnt get nerfed
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>ouroboros killed but ignored sibyl
They did it so dragon couldn't overheal against midrange decks with the ouro/sibyl/isra cancer.

>gobbo leader and tove nerfed
Alice is honestly underwhelming otherwise. If you sit through 1-3 doing nothing about the drops, you deserved to lose to her.

Bapho is shoeboxed. Spawn will remain usable in control blood.
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>>184288427
Inb4 they are counting for neutral albert storm
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>>184288486
>scared that Dragon might comeback when Neutral Aggro is still a thing
>scared that Aegis might become strong when DShift is still a thing
>not scared that Midshadow might comeback if they nerf their two main counters and the tier 0 craft
No.
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>>184288184

Neutral Levi/Falise rune will be so cancer too without neutral blood to outrace it
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>>184288303
Tove did nothing WRONG! NOTHING!
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>>184287395
i like most of the nerfs, only one i disagree with is completely destroying baphomet instead of a small change
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>>184288538
Prebuilts are only worth it when you are starting out and have nothing.
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>>184288275
can you stop posting these dumbing things? is really cringy
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>>184288162
bander is turn 7 while bapho is turn 5
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>>184288552
Grimnir still a good 3pp ward, Snow probably still the best 2pp follower in the game. Not sure about Ouro, probably is kill.
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>Because they used data from early month and not the latest data from the last week and a half or so they still think Aegis is the second most played deck in the game and Shadow goes untouched
>will have to wait another month before they finally do something about Eachtar
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>>184288346
Eachtar is in it too

>>184288339
>>184288368
That's the premade you buy if you need vials to craft a different legendary.
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>>184287116
Why the hell is her(his) cock censored?
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>>184288660
>7.6% playrate
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>Ouro actually became a 8pp demonic strike just like how people memed about it during his reveal

l o l
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>>184288664
Sybil is the poster girl for the new dragon pre built, they couldn't nerf her
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>>184288548
>not ptp wood of brambles forest with15+ attack fairy dragons
Yeah but that damn shadow though that cant use 2 of their wincons anymore. Fuck them!
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>dragon precon will be the most bought precon ever
Tons of value now
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>>184288727
>2PP 2/2
>good
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>184288284
No Alice/Eachtar Nerfs
Neutral shadow with Eachtar
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>>184288672
>We believe that these changes should bring the win rate and use rate of Neutral Blood in line with where they should be. There is a risk, however, that classes currently being kept in check by Bloodcraft could become too strong as a result of this change. We’re specifically concerned about Ramp Dragon decks

This is their wording.
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I'm legit upset right now. Snow White nerf hurts me but it's fair and it is likely to keep seeing play. But the Baphomet nerf fucking ruins Carabosse consistency and that was my second favorite card this expansion. Fuck, I feel like screaming.
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>>184288728
>cygames ever touching eachtar
They have avoided him for 4 months now. Can't make this shit up.
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>>184288316
>they only see statictics and this is retard
>they actually balance by the decks instead of a meme show
What button?
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>>184288714
It's still a reliable tutor.
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>have to wait another month before alice and feria die
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>>184288698
I am missing a good deal of cards in those prebuilts, but I don't know if they are worth after a lot of what people were hyping up in them got nerfed
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>7 . 6 % P L A Y R A T E

RIP CHEMO CREW
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>>184288702
kys shadownigger
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>>184288791
what kind of imbecile would spend money on this game now
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>>184288846
Wait, Grimnir hp got nerfed? In that case, he's shit. Why run him over other class wards. I retract my early statement.
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>>184288853
Cry me a river, bloodcuck.
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>>184288974
I was referring to Snow White
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>>184288935
It's a good deal if you need the golds + 2 leggos.
>>184288974
No that's cinder hp nerf. Only grimnir enhance effect got touched.
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>>184288727
Ouro is now average leggo, not too good or terrible. It's still playable and will still grind people to death at least they didn't made it corpse lord alpha.
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why did they avoid mentioning winrates? thats the thing i wanted to read the most, numbers straight from them
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>>184287618
it conflicts with Alice now, it's a huge nerf
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Immune to nerfs is in his hidden text.
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>VANILLA 2PP 2/2

AHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAAHAHAHA NICE LEGENDARY HAVENKEKS
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>>184289061
>cinder
Snow white*
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>we nerf dragon and haven because blood nerf might make them too strong
>both crafts have barely above 50% overall winrate

Literal midshadow all over again.
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>>184288852
Yes, so? They are retarded. The nerfs and their train of thought would've been perfect if they had nerfed Eachtar as well, but they didn't.
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>>184287618
It got dumpstered
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>knew grimnir would get nerfed and starred that motherfucker week 1 of tog
>still only pulled 3
>2 alices but 0 cthulhus

Fuck my life.Next month for sure right?
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>>184287051
Very much so because I crafted 2 Alices and then drew 2.
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>>184289089
try climbing out of B0
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>>184289073
because they don't actually care about data
>dude PREEMPTIVE nerfs to shit classes lmao
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Who /ClimbingToGM/ after the nerfs? Was 4k this month couldn't really bother with this meta
shadow main btw
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>>184288738
Only because everyone was playing blood
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Reminder that Haven was nerfed despite the playrate because Cygames thought ahead to kill you fucking cancer hags.
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>>184288759
cringe
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Im ready for our cats overlords
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>>184289237
Are you retarded?
>>
LEGENDARY
FIGHTER
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>>184289004
Kys you imbecile.
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>>184289246
>7.6%
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>>184287923
F
THIS MEME DIED FOR YOUR SINS
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>>184289237
I would if I believed this game would EVER be good again, but I just don't
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>>184289270
>cringe

kys normie
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>>184289268
ah yes, must be why everyone else was playing shadow and blood in ranked last time i checked, haven sure is cancer
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>>184289235
>>184289404
stop is really cringy
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Snow White is complete garbage now.
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>>184289220
I did, that was why I was unaffected by the ToS nerf.
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>Snow White and OURO FUCKING BOROS nerfed
>the Alice of turn 4 concedes and the Eachtar of great defensively and offensively untouched

KMR what the FUCK

holy shit if you were going to nerf a dragon legend for being blatantly overstatted overloaded and stupidly designed... why the FUCK aren't you hitting sibyl instead?

However, I am glad to see Grimnir was finally adjusted properly. The nerf to face damage is fair and overdue.

Also, hitting baph AND spawn but not touching Alice, BKP, Phantom, or Scarlet.... Christ KMR, I got to GM facerolling with a phantom cat deck that these nerfs barely touch. I already thought on balance it was better than the spawn deck and now it's just gonna take over for another month because WHY THE FUCK DIDN'T THEY NERF ALICE WHY.
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>>184288738
It was the second highest played list. Shit they still didn't nerfed Tea time+Garuda, while going first that is like +9 face damage. It is fucking retarded.
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Grimnir will definitely still see play, especially in Ramp dragon and Neutral. Even if it can't hit face it can still clear board for Baha. And 2/3 ward on 3 is always strong, especially to prep for Alice now that GL is nerfed.

Snow white is a 2-Drop that can tade into 3-drops and turn dog into Rahab. She will never be bad.

Ouroboros nerf is a big hit and now its versatility is far lower. Good in control mirrors still but those can easily pack Odin. That said, it was already being phased out in many lists, And I think instead we'll see more storm ramp varients, perhaps with Usula and Urd as finishers instead.

Neutral blood is just gutted though, but it should still be at least as strong as equivalent Neutral sword decks due to cat. You can conceivably build a Neutral blood deck with only Bapho to cat for consistent Tutors.

CBlood will still run Spawn as a finisher, though.

I suspect that with these nerfs we'll see more midrange decks pop up. Neutral Aggro curves aren't as consistent anymore, so we might see Vengeance blood come back. Dirt Rune is a threat, and so is Kektar, but those still are hard countered by dragon's healing and powerful boardclear - And in those matchups, dragon doesn't usually need Ouro to begin with. So we might fall into a meta of Dirt/Eachtar > Haven > Dragon > Dirt/Eachtar, with Sword and Forest digging out small niches.

The real wild card is whether the slowing of the meta from Blood's nerf will cause weird decks like Dark Alice to become powerful. Because if so, that's a huge metagame changer right there.
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>Forest actually gets worse than it already is
Wow impressive stuff. That's actually pretty hard to do.
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>waa please kill alice
Fucking retards. Let's nerf Alice and make Forest and Sword from barely playable to ultimate trash tier right? Fuck you.
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>Blood, Dragon and Haven get nerfed but not Balance Headless man
Forest confirmed dead this expansion.
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>>184289490
(you)
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>>184288727
What are you on? Snow surviving trades with other 2-drops and 2/3s made up for her shit evo stats. Other than activating doggo early, you're better off with a normal 2-drop now.
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>wasted half my vials on neutral blood
>hate it
>wasted other half on havencraft aegis deck
>like it
>both get nerfed
>get only refunded like 18k vials out of 40k that I used to craft both decks

Eat my ass
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>>184289023
>>184289061
>>184289113
Whoops, you guys are right. I think snow still looks pretty good. Going first, your opponent can't remove it, meaning she can trade into any 2/3 pp drop barring Cinderella.

>>184289268
We're going to have overstatted ward dogs and incredibly stall and there's literally nothing you can do about it.
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>>184288664
This. Fuck Sibyl and her stupid stats with 2 good effects.
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>>184289457
Since you're too dumb to understand let me explain.
Aegis decks are at 7% playrate. Eachtar(midrange) is ~2% or less.

Completely agree about alice. She is the bullshit enabler but... shes neutral so every craft can use her so its ok
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>Legendary 2pp 2/2

they cant keep getting away with this
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Cant wait for Elf to be T0 on the back of 2 card, twin's assault and B&B, mark my word!
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>>184288156
>Shadow is the second strongest deck right
That's aegis.
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>>184289429
You're literally fucking braindead. Haven was bad since Neutral Blood Earlygame is better than Havens. Shadow could get away with it by playing Lurching.
Haven was fucking way stronger than Shadow.

Reminder the nerf was to prevent Haven from dominating after Blood left.
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>8 PP DEMONIC STRIKE

JESUS CHRIST

4 fucking health

F O U R
O
U
R

>Last Words
>No Healing

AHHHHHHHHHH
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At least the new dragon prebuilt comes with 3500 vials now.
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>>184287078
>did shadow crawl out of the grave mid-season?
it's the third best deck after dragon/blood, not aegis like they said
>>
>wanted to vial 3 Alice to craft 3 snow white and start playing haven
>I'm stuck with this piece of shit leggo forever instead
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>>184289689
>Forest being at the top of any meta where Shadow is good
ok friendo
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>>184288757
they want 5 minute games. with abyss nerfed they have to gut healing to ensure the trainriding salarymen don't get bored
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>meme snake and azazel OTK got killed in the crossfire

whats left? vengeance aggro?
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Blood's winrate will increase
screencap this
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>>184289596
Why does the looks like a bestiality doujin cover
>>184289667
Isn't shadow decks nowadays is either dark alice or neutral package + eachtar
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>>184289463
>seven
>percent
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Was Intern-kun warning us with this meme?
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>>184289858
do you have a single fact to back that up
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>>184289720
>inb4 they pull an alt art for ouro
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>>184289853
pure cblood to farm shadow
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>>184289667
No it's NOT OK because Alice as a card is precisely the cancer that is causing the huge discrepancy between go first and go second.

They right all this shit about wanting to fix the go first go second gap but it's all absolute manure if they don't hit Alice who is the primary cause. FUCK.
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>>184289718
Ramp already has way too much healing, this is one of the few sound changes they made, really.
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>>184289596
Snow is still definitely going to be a major part of Haven decks. Being able to kill 2/3s was to much.

I'm burning my copies anyways and recrafting them later after I fuck around a bit, but still.
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>>184288736

Prude Games
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>>184289720
>giving money to KMR
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>>184289540
Aegis haven is still good you idiot
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>>184289705
Yeah, that's why tournaments are filled with Midshadow and Blood and why I just fought 3 Midshadows in a row in GM right now, right?
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>>184289961
what is cblood fucking wincon?
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>>184289931
when i saw grimnir in the news that shit came to mind, he knew all along
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>>184289862
Dark alice is a meme card on a tier the same as corpselord. And neutral shadow does not exist because shadow has no neutral support in WLD
Shadow is basically dead in WLD and cygames own stats prove so
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>people still complaining about eachtar

ummmmm?
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>>184289470
>Kektar, but those still are hard countered by dragon's healing and powerful boardclear - And in those matchups, dragon doesn't usually need Ouro to begin with.
shadow farms dragon, especially now that it runs lurchings/demon eaters, it clears threats and doesn't run out of steam

your post is full of fake news honestly
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>>184289853
Carabosse, Mary+Dealer and Temptress also got hit. They're so fucking incompetent it's baffling.
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the fuck am I supposed to do with this now?
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>>184289718
In my experience the Ouro healing doesn't really matter that much. Sibyl and fervor (not counting Isra or Luci) already do wonders.
But yeah, he succ now
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>>184290127
>can't kill Eachtar
>>
>>184289470
>ouro was being phased out
No
>>
So T1 is basically Aegis/Mid Shadow/Dirt

I doubt neutral aggro is completely dead so Ramp Dragon is probably still fucked.
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>>184290034
Haven > Shadow
Shadow =< Blood
Blood > Shadow, Haven

obviously you bring Blood and Shadow.
Guess what's good when Blood leaves btw?
spoilers, it's Haven.
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>>184290184
Liquefy them for full ref- oh.
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>>184290127
You do realize Eachtar has 6 health... right? And, you know, considering he might easily clear anywhere from 1-3 cards JUST COMING IN, even if you could clear him for one card that wouldn't be a victory.
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>>184289667
>gutted for 7% playrate
>meanwhile Alice gets off scot-free
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>>184289853
>guaranteed draw certain card was fine guise!
so bloodfags were retards all along
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>>184290106
spawn
he's still good
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>>184289987
>https://shadowverse.com/news/?announce_id=336

Is /svg/ truly implying that Girmnir, Ouro will not see play anymore and that Blood will not remain Tier 1?
Also Aegis and Neutral Haven are still very good and only lost 1 card from their 30 removal cards
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>>184289853
The rise of carrabunga bats
>>
i'm kinda happy with Grimnir nerfs because he is no longer auto include when you are searching for 3 pp follower when you build a deck.
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>Luna is back to tier 1
>Cerberus leader
This was a good week.
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>>184290184
If you crafted them, maybe reconsider your life decisions
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>>184290184
Stall with bkb and scarlet
>>
so should we be liquidating ouro now
>>
>>184290214
The problem with the Ouro healing was that, once you managed to stabilize and drop Ouro, a lot of decks just could not comeback from it even if they could afford to sacrifice shit to kill Ouro because they'd just recover too much life.
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>JO dragon's win con completely destroyed, raped, shoved into the dirt and spit on
NO, IMPOSSIBLE! pure wizard JO shall rise again
>>
>tfw checked how many spawns I had
>tfw didn't join the Neutral Blood bangwagon
>tfw get 2 legendaries out of it
this is a good day
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>>184290228
>>184290313

that was hard
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>>184290236
>you lived long enough to see aggro dirt become tier 1
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>>184290278
all these people are literally fucking braindead.
The nerfs were preemptive. Fucking Havenfags aren't even that bad but WOW. I recommend a gas chamber.
>>
Baphomet paid the full price of Alice's and Abyss' sins
May Azazel and sneks rest in peace
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>eachtar untouched
THANK YOU
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>>184290317
>>>184286101
>>>184286862
>>>184287329
>>>184288078
>>>184288316
>>>184288578
>>>184288738
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>>184290368
Haven didn't lose any of its removal, though.
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>>184290506
And cat
>>
With the dust I can craft a full Oz Rune deck. Finally.
>>
>>184290362
2/3 ward is still op as shit
>>
>>184289920
Only because Everyone and their mother where playing blood.
>>
For the longest time I've been tempted to craft Odin to counter Ouro, thanks god he's dead
>>
>>184290563
Why is Eris a lolicon
>>
>>184290330
Just dies to lurching and thighs, dealing only 5.
>>
I'm tired of this game. Any cute girl want to uninstall and live with me instead?
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>>184290368
did they say any date for the leaders release?
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>>184290541
down syndrome.
>>
>>184290475
>gutted for S E V E N P E R C E N T
>>
>people actually justify a nerf to a card no one uses
This is actually depressing what the fuck
>>
>>184290317
Yeah but "alice [craft]" does not exist. All ""alice"" decks are spread out across all crafts with all of them being decent but not too good
>>
>>184290127

If midrange shadow goes out of control just put Eggploxion on your deck and GG
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>>184290475
>nerfs are preemptive
>Eachtar not nerfed even though they go after everything that "is" better than Midshadow
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>>184289934
People thought that Shadow nerf will hurt the class and they got even higher winrates. Though I think this anon is retarded since this time they seriously addressed the problems with Neutral Spawn blood.
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>>184290721
>not nerfing potentially problematic and overpowered cards before they are problematic

Sure I enjoy a month of cancer just because of players like you!
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Why do shadowniggers get off free? I guess I'll play nothing but haven so I can bully them again.
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>>184290612
>S E V E N
>E
>V
>E
>N
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>>184290721
Which is that then? Snow White is in every haven deck. Just because Blood's playrate overshadowed every other deck's doesn't mean there wearn't other problem cards to target.
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>>184290602
its strong but not OP just keep generic 3 damage removal or BKB, Jeno etc
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>tfw started playing deresute as soon as this game went to shit
Glad I already have something to entertain me. I'll still use my leftover crystals to buy the dragon prebuilt, vial everything and hopefully when I come back I can craft the newest form of cancer.
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>>184290541
>>184290673
Gutted for what the would become, not what they are right now.
>>184290792
They literally (LITERALLY) said that's why they nerfed Haven. Please read.
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>>184290871
here>>184290541
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>>184290863
Because Luna's craft is honest.
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>>184290757
Only because neutral blood dominated everything
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>>184290863
Then dshitter will rise again.
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>>184290871
The legendary Goblin got nerfed. Get over it.
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>>184290951
Kys
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>>184290721
yeah don't know why they nerfed Ouro when Sibyl is the problem
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>>184290924
Then explain why Eachtar and Alice got off scot-free
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>>184290863
>complaining about a craft nobody plays and a deck that gets obliterated by neutral anything
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>>184290924
>they nerfed Haven because of Midshadow
OK.
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>>184290863
still loses to haven, daria and dirt :^)
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Thanks for sparing me, KMR! :)

FUSHIGI NA SEKAI
SUTEKI NA SEKAI
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>>184290856
Sure, nerf Otohime and Sage Commander they might become oppressive again anytime soon
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>>184290924
cringe
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At least ouro can be dealt with since its a single target with banish and transform, shadow's constant flood board is the most retarded thing and they didn't fixed it since people run out of mass removal very fast and they can just keep vomiting while removing your board. Fucking otomeme was a problem while eachtar was fine.
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>>184289862
>Why does the looks like a bestiality doujin cover
The artist draws a lot of monster rape and corruption eromanga.
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>>184291091
don't try to argue anon, KMR is a Lunapedo
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>>184291084
Those should've had been nerfed in DE instead of them ruining the game by filling it with stupidly high ammounts of board clear.
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>>184291084
>havenbab still butthurt over Vanilla shadowverse meta

L O L
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>>184291076
KEN MO TOKUI YO!
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>>184291084
cringe
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What did we learn?
>they thought they nerfed Shadow enough that it won't be good in the meta
>they didn't like the Ramp Dragon matches taking 30 turns
>Haven players are literally illiterate
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TFW Cygames said Grimnir was good in dragon because they can ramp up and play it earlier for board wipe and face damage, while the real problem is Sibyl because she let you ramp without tempo loss but gain tempo and soft taunt that must be removed asap.

But i'm okay with Grimnir nerfs because he is no longer auto include in almost every deck and open up more variety for 3 pp slot.
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Remember when everyone thought Sword was the dev pet class?
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>play bird haven
>never even used snow white

these wings, bro.
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>Used my globe on Alice
>she goes untouched
This motherfucker knew
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>>184290863
Pls do, I will farm all hagfags with my Dshift deck.
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>>184291028
>second most played deck in tournaments
>4th most played deck on ladder
>positive against almost everything
I wonder who could be behind this post?
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>pulled like 20 bapho's
>vialed them
I honestly should have seen the writing on the wall, but at the time the loss of momentum on turn 5 seemed like a dealbreaker.
but now with tove, bkb and sabeur its safe to waste that turn
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>>184291091
>constant board flood without: prince catacomb, goblin leader
>actually being bullied by midshadows 0 early aggresion now that shadow reaper is dead

Are you passing your first 5 turns or something?
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>>184290460
So now you've spent 7 mana, your entire turn, and 1 card plus an evo evolved token card worth more than the usual 1 drop card... to deal with 1 enemy card that already got value.

No wonder I always see Rune players botch their turns, they can't even do basic math like realizing spending more cards/pp to answer a card than their opponent did to play it is BAD.
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F
http://usamin.love/card/ouroboros/j_death.wav
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>>184291309
That was Forest. She's the app icon and the face of the radio show.
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>>184291385
*was
>>
I AM A FLOWER
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>>184291084
Them not nerfing those is exactly why the game is in the state that it is.
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>>184291490
>got value
>when their board is clear

ummm lol?
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>>184291319
Snow is good even in storm deck for now because Tove
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>>184290460
>moving the goalposts
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>>184291302
>3pp slots are open
I wonder if people will start using the shitty blood Tsundere, she is actually a good designed card.
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>vial 2 spawns for 2 eachtar
>vial 2 ouros for 2 cerb
>auto fill
Time to join the bandwagon so eachtar gets the chopping board next.
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>buy dragon premade
>get 800 vials from grimn and 3500 from ouro + cute sybil art

Sounds good to me.
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>>184291519
So dragon will run like 1 of him now or just remove him?
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>>184291583
>1 card for 2-3
>half shadows refunded

ummm lol?
>>
>Keep
Grimnir
Snow White

>Vial
Spawn
Tove
GLeader

>I dunno
Ouroboros
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>>184291698
I'll remove him for a third israfil and lucifer.
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>>184291302
Grimnir is auto-include in every deck because he is a 3pp 2/3 Ward, not because of the Enhance.
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>>184291727
by that point you'd have won already so whatevs
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>>184291224
>L O L

kimoii-shi...
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>>184291385
I had 18 of them at the end of TotG but vialed them for some reason I can't recall. I knew his enhance bullshit was only going to be a matter of time before he got gutted like goblin mage. But they basically just changed him into a slightly better statted Dragon Summoner.
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>shadow is going to dominate!
>Nep actually got D E S T R O Y E D as nep decks used both grimnir and goblin leader
Reminder that /svg/ is absolutely always wrong about everything
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>>184291696
should I be buying 3 of these if I don't have any sibyls then
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>>184291519
F
I didn't like mirrors with you but otherwise you were the best.
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>>184291698
Why would you run a 8pp demonic strike?
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>>184291787
yes you are
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>>184291669
I think people will just put in Rapunzel for leader and nothing will change with the alice package.
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>>184291559
BKB and sabby are still great
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>>184291729
oh fug forgot baph, vial him
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>>184291596
If you're timing amulets, she can possibly fuck it all up.
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>>184291696
I already got 3 Sybil but with those vials I might have to get it
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>>184291729
Vial everything you aren't using in a deck.
Craft them again if they turn out to still be decent.
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>>184291817
>giving money to KMR
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>>184291809
>nep
(You)
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>>184289339

OTK Azazel is dead too fucking LUL
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Why no nerf on young Levi?
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>>184291850
Rapunzel sucks ass though.
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>No more Grimnir topdeck lethals
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>>184291809
I made a 2478 Nep deck for dailies in unranked that did pretty well overall. Maybe I'll take it into ranked to test it out after the nerfs hit.
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So I was saving up for my third snow white (got lucky and pulled two of them), should I still craft her?
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>Ouroboros nerfed
>Eachtar, Alice or Aegis untouched
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>>184291407
Lurching, party and thighsassin for early board control and shadow.
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Rip sneks.

Gg, cygames.
Proving you are incapable of producing a decent children's card game.
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>>184292082
She is probably still decent, but you should wait.
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>>184292082
If you don't like her after crafting you can vial for full value anyway.
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When was the last time we got this many posts in two hours?
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no more disgusting ant eater
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>>184291847
shinae kuso shadowbab

bakayarou konoyarou
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>>184292156
Tell that to konami, and they are still making banks.
>>184292173
When they first release the 20 private win rewards.
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>>184291921
Because it's going to be the go to deck to fuck over all the stupid shadowniggers that will be swarming ranked now. They even nerfed a bunch of cards Dragon relied on to ensure Rune has less of a struggle against them.
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>>184292173
Every other nerf announcement or expansion release.
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>>184290856
Ouroboros doesn't fucking carry dragon by itself. He's not a hard wincon. He's not insane burst without zell. You can actually tech against it IF for some ungodly reason he becomes """""problematic""""". If anything Sibyl should've been touched but no, nerf this shiny turd instead.
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>>184290231
Look at any WD dragon lists and you'll see.

>>184290167
Shadow could always remove dragon's threats, but dragon could always remove the boards back - And the current lists are an answer to Blood, they aren't really all that great vs dragon.
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>>184291729
I'm not hurting for vials and only pulled one spawn, so I'm gonna hang onto mine
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>>184290645
shadow has no healing. you only have to do 5 damage if you can avoid dying until you drop all of them. there's also azazel and claws
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>>184289853
Meme snake and azazel needed to be killed.
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>ramp dragon only finisher now is dread queen+genesis+arriet combo

Shit is literally unplayable in ladder now.
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>>184292121
Just because aegis barely escaped the nerf doesnt mean he wont get nerfed next month.
Be smart for once in your life hags. Dont abuse your 'balanced' deck too much because you're already pushing the limit. Once aegis gets nerfed you will have nothing and will just cry about the mean shadow boogeyman that isnt even played a lot more and we will be forced to report your posts
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I'm assuming every Dragon deck will be playing the Saha engine now because you can't rely on Ouroboros healing you anymore and the Alice aggro cancer is still alive.
>>
spawn will now be a late game bahamut counter where it fucking belongs
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>>184292185
You can still use him as a normal 2 drop
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>>184292406
Ouro is too good not to run. He wasn't being phased out retard
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>>184292540
>running an 8pp demonic strike
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>>184291921
>gambling on earth rite
you could build a house with that many bricks
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>>184289853

Bloody Mary
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>>184292475
>dragon decks
LOL
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>>184292458
I can see heaven getting even harder nerf next months. Specially Tea time and Aegis.
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>>184292475
Welcome to ungaverse now every unga will defend the nerf
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/v/ told me the japs were good at making video games.
What the fuck is this shit
>>
>Sword and Dirt untouched
Feels good being honest
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>>184289967
going first needed buffs. cards like alice that reward proactive play instead of dshift type retardation are not only good for the game but necessary. it was only cards like tove and commander giving automatic board advantage for alice to snowball that made her broken
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>>184292540
Ouro did nothing, and now will do even less, against aggro lists. Dragon lists ran ouro to deal with control decks, Ouro itself was worthless against Alice. Usually for that slot Wrath Drake or Confla was better.
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I feel like they finalized their changes over a week ago before Midshadow started coming back in mass and missed the memo on it.
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>>184292623
Aegis is immune to effects.
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>>184292683
>/v/
Kill yourself
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>>184291850
Rapunzel is actually pretty strong just Goblin Leader was way better bringing essentially the same health and total attack but across two bodies and with snowball potential. Without Leader the 3 drop neutral options contending for his crown are basically Rapunzel, Gourmet, or Goblin Mage. Not totally clear which will win but I suspect Gourmet/Mage in midrangeish decks and Rapunzel in stricter aggro ones.
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>>184292683
What is your problem with the nerfs ?
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>>184292717
>infinite healing on top of already having bullshit heals that come with bonus effects is nothing
t. dragoncuck
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>>184292609
>LOL

kimochi warui...
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>>184292841
t. Eachtar
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>>184292860
>ouro
>good against aggro
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>>184292718
>implying they care about playrate or winrate
dude preemptive nerf lmao
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Post your totals you'll be getting from vials.

tove/gob leader: (8+22) 1500
baphomet: (2) 400
grimnir: never pulled extras, so 0
abyss/ouro/snow: (2 of each) 21000
Grand Total: 22900
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If the meta in two weeks turns out to be awesome and Midshadow doesn't dominate everything, I want all of you to apologize.

If the meta in two weeks turns out to be shit and Shadow is tier 0 broken, I will come apologize.
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>>184293009
>tier 0
>0
spotted the AA rank shitter
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>dragon goes back to being awkward shit without clear finisher move other than dropping fat bodies and dying to anything aggro
>haven is still mediocre shit
>shadow is now better than everything simply because of eachtar

Lost the count of matches being turned due to eachtar topdeck. Fuck this.
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>>184292576
>8pp demonic carrot with less defense than the neutral 8pp demonic ogre

ouro is fucking shit now
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>>184293009
Kill yourself, shadownigger.
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>>184293009
fuck off
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>>184292965
>baphomet: (2) 400
baphomet is still a great card. just still all the new op blood cards in a deck that's neutral 1-4 and you're guaranteed something good
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>>184292187
assume the position, cakeboy
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>Big Knuckle Bodyguard
>Scarlet sabreur
>Alice
>Eachtar
>Aegis
>Actress
>Young Levi
>not nerfed
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>>184292590
Oh yeah, can't wait for those sweet Soul Dealer comb-
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>>184292896
I wil start to print the cringe
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So any guesses as to what should I try climbing with now?
My best decks are probably Levi dirt and Neutral sword. I also have an Elana deck and I could try making a lion deck. I refuse to play Shadow since I fucking hate Eachtor.
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>>184293009
balanced man is the only thing you guys have and I honestly feel bad
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>>184293142
It's still a 50/50 it doesn't pull itself. The card is beyond useless now.
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>>184292889
Hey N. what's up my dude
>>
You fuckers will thank me for this one
*nerfs Albert*
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>>184293253
>he thinks anything will be viable once Shadow is freed of all of its bad match ups
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>>184293069
>still has the most storm damage
>still can go 10pp on turn 6
>still has "win the game if opponent doesnt have single removals" cards
>still can spam forte even in a full neutral deck
>no clear finisher
>>
Only good nerf was Grimnir, the rest were gutted. Snow White is pure trash and will never see play again, neither will Abyss or Bap. They just needed to gut the neutral package, but can't touch le expansion mascot girl. Eachtar STILL unfuckingnerfed, and they killed Ouro, instead of the ONLY broken dragon card, because she's now in the prebuilt.
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>>184293326
BALANCED HONESTCRAFT WILL NEVER GET NERFED
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APOLOGIZE
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>people will fall for the dirt is good now guise! meme
>they will realize its the secret 8th craft called brickcraft and cry muh vials etc
sad
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>>184292717
>ouro did nothing
>not running conflag/wrath and ouro
How pants on head retarded can one be
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>>184293369
Too bad you're already on my sights for some PREEMPTIVE action.
>>
So they literally just undid the expansion, and left Shadow untouched after fucking months of Shadow? Who the fuck makes these decisions?
>>
>>184293253
Neutral cat maybe? It loses Tove though.
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Okay, no Alice nerf I can understand, but not even touching Feria?
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Haven isn't going anywhere, the Snow White nerf is a slap on the wrist.
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>>184293556
Feria is shit without gobleader.
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>even with the nerf shitstorm
>and the nerfs discussion
>bitching and bait
>this general is slow as fuck and now is dead again

I guess this is it for this game
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>>184293427>>184293369
fuck off
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All aboard the Shadow bandwagon. AGAIN.
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>>184293297
You make it sound like Shadow will become as unplayable as Forest if balanced man ever gets nerfed.
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>>184292965
Tove: 450
Bapho: 600
Goblin Leader: 750
Grimnir: 4800
Spawn: 7000
Ouro: 10500
24100 vials, good enough to craft my Eachtars and go full cancer :^) I'll also finally have D-Shift and maybe I'll do some Neutral Forest.
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>>184293301
>2 baphomet
>vs all the spawn/cat/bkb/execute with body/etc in your deck
>50/50
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>>184292965
11300
I'm vialing my Grimnir playset despite having no extras because fuck that cunt
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>>184293009
They just fucking murdered my bro Baphomet, i'll never apologize. Fuck this company.
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>>184290214
Ouroboros made it impossible to win with midrange decks because they'd just heal forever while removing your board. If you ignored it they'd just dick you instead with Zeus or something then it'd actually be impossible to win.
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>>184293365
Ouro is still good.
Tove is fighter as 2 drop and 2/2 2pp rush in midgame.
Baphomet is a better Dragon Summoner.
Snow White can trade with 3 drops which is good.
Only Gob Leader and Spawn probably won't see play after this.
>>
Is the beastiality lego affected by corpse ,thigh assasin or khawy?
>>
POST NEXT MONTH NERFS:
AEGIS
TEA
LE BALANCED HEADLESS MULTI-USE MAN
ZOMBIE PARTY
ALICE
LEVI
FALICE
SYBYL
ROACH
>>
>BKB not nerfed
It is also the reason why blood has high winrate when going first. Cygames????

>Eachtar not nerfed
You do know that zombie generate shadows right? Now the nett cost of each zombie is like 2 shadows only which is OP as fuck. Make it 4 shadows like other zombie generator and we are talking.

>Teatime not nerfed
Really??? You think haven will be strong with a 2PP legendary but not a 5PP that has 10PP value in it? Tea time + Garuda is confirm 9 damage to the face. Jesus fucking christ this is the biggest offender.

>Not changing the mechanics where character at full health cannot be """"""healed""""""""
>Not changing game mechanics where last word of all amulets can only be triggered when it is destroyed on your turn
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>>184292860
Dragon plays reactionary vs aggro due to its lack of board presence and tempo. Suppose you're at turn 6, 8pp. You played Sibyl last turn to go from 5 to 7, and the opponent evo'd/burned it. This is a very common play pattern in ramp dragon. Turn 6, they an Alice and maybe 1-3 buffed followers on board, you're sitting somewhere around 10-15 health. Why the fuck would you drop ouro when you could go Sahaluci or Confla or Wrath Drake instead? Worst case scenario, a second sibyl or Fervor to pump you to 10 so you can Grimnir or Baha is good too. It's not like they can keep up with you at that point. Against aggro lists, by the time you hit that 9-10 mana mark, you've more or less own no matter what. Ouro isn't needed at all.

But instead, if you're against another ramp drag, or control, or some midrange lists, where they leave small creatures alive or an empty board, Ouro is excellent in that cast to put pressure and force them to play reactively. Ouro is a strong card when you have the initiative, bad as a reactionary play.

>>184293469
Then your deck is too top-heavy and imbalanced. I used to still run Ouro, but with all the Alice lists around it's simply a better tech to take away Ouro, which is a dead drop in that matchup, and stick in, say, a few urds instead, which is relevant both on curve and can help progress a wincon with forte.
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>>184293342
Too bad storm ramp isn't viable in the age of neutral.
>>
Buying the dragon prebuilt lets you craft a free lego of your choosing.
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Is there any viable way to throw down the snakes on turn 8 without guaranteeing your death?
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>>184293689
>roach
>aegis
>n-nerf it because i don't like it!
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>>184293645
if he somehow still good you craft him back again without any loss
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>>184293532
They think the Reaper nerf at the start of the expansion was enough.
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>tfw no one realized dreadshift counter midshadow
I can't wait to farm bandwagoner with my Dreadshift.
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>>184293532
Enjoy Shadowverse.
>>
Watch this one and thank me later
*nerfs Daria*
>>
you retards realize if the enemy doesnt banish youre ouro, they are literally making you brick right?
is this place actually ungagen?
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>>184293610
>make an expansion full of new cards
>they see play for a month
>go back to totg midshadow + demon eaters
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So instead of spawnshit we'll just see more phantomcatshit which is already arguably better.
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>>184293672
Spawn can still be pulled by Key and Snatch. Bapho, Leader and Tove are the ones that we're barely ever going to see again.
>>
>>184280197
>>184280197
>>184280197

MIGRATE
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>intern-kun knew bapho nerf would help bloody mary and tried to tell us
cant wait to try mary key
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>>184293301
>2pp draw a card with stats that trades into the most common 2pp cards is useless
The card was ridiculous before. After the nerf, it's still stronger than any other 2pp unconditional draw card in the game. Yet it's still not good enough for you babies.
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Reminder that the Grimnir nerf killed JO dragon for good.
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>Alice is not nerfed
>BkB is not nerfed
>Feria is not nerfed
Nice nerfs. At least dragon and finally Grimnir are BTFO
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>>184293920
MEME MEMES EARLY
>>
>defending any kind of tutor
>ever
you guys are the reason the game is going to become shit
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>>184293762
No you're better off wanking since turn 8 do nothing is suicide especially with upcoming meta of shitty version of totg.
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reminder that birds will never be nerfed

>never ran snow white
>never ran grimnir
>not see echtar because it's flying this way
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>>184293784
I realize he's still good but yeah, literally no reason not to vial everything for now
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>>184293920
Post it again after we reach the bump limit.
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>>184294034
Storm ran both, what the fuck are you talking about?
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>>184293672
>Ouro is still good
Not good enough
>Tove is a fighter
Yes, because a fucking fighter with no neutral tag is constructed viable.
>Baphomet is a better Dragon Summoner.
In a class without ramp, killing literally every single control and combo deck in the class. Unga and veng for the rest of eternity for Blood.
>Snow White can trade with 3 drops which is good.
And 2 drops can trade into her, she's not even remotely worth a legendary slot. 2 is already an extremely competitive slot for Haven, Snow White will definitely not be making that cut.
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>>184294014
So you're saying guaranteed alberts on turn 5 should be nerfed next?
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>>184293743
thanks anon I feel relieved
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>>184294097
>turn 10 grimnir finish in a storm bird deck

make some adjustments
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>>184294097
I used to run Grimnir for the face damage. Do you think it would still be useful?
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>>184293763
>Aegis
>literally only 1, uno, 一, peteĩ, one counter card
>not deserving the nerfhammer
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>>184286885
No extra damage
Can't be tutored before turn 7 vs turn 5 for turn 6 lol 16 face damage turn 7
Can't have his cost reduced
Now it's slow as a brick and could weaker than Silver Bolt, it will never ever see play again
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>>184294034
i use Snow+dog in my storm because Tove and gobo leader but after nerfs i will swap snow+dog into reno and mainyu immunity is good because people still running 2 pp removal and BKB etc and extra face damage is always good for storm.

I also use grimnir but i rarely use his 10 pp enhance maybe i will replace him with white tiger or sister initiate.
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>>184294185
yes? they should have done that long time ago but i dont even bother saying that in swordbab gen
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I hope these nerfs do nothing to fix the game so I can have an excuse to finally uninstall this shit.

I never thought this once fun little game would cause me more frustration than League of fucking Legends.
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>>184294250
>9pp card that can't be tutored nor mana cheated and need more than a turn to win the game
It's fine.
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>>184286885
Spawn is shit without the satanic goat. Now it's a Gilgamesh.
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>>184294235
>3pp 2/3 ward
i don't know, you tell me
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>>184280197
>>184280197
>>184280197
New thread
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>>184294382
>waiting to uninstall
Beta as fuck
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>>184294396
>delay game to turn 9 with your infinite amount of heals,wards,board clears to play aegis
>its fine
Aegis is getting gutted next cuck and there is nothing you can do to stop it
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>>184294320
God how I miss triggering tiddy wizards with mainyu.
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>>184287618
In play on curverse now you have to choice Leader or Alice
Just take off Leader from your deck
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>>184292406
>but dragon could always remove the boards back
fake news, midshadow is objectively better at boardflood than dragon is at boardclear. which is hilarious since dragon has 15-17 cards just for that.

storm heavy decks are the only dragon decks with a positive winrate against shadow. most people play grinder dragon decks.
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>>184294560
spoken like a shadowfag that just plays cards and can't anticipate banishes

there's a million ways to kill hag before turn 9
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>>184294426
>Spawn is shit without the satanic goat.
B1?
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>>184294571
Mainyu works wonders against DShift. If they don't have conjure golem they eat lot of damage that helps you close the game before they could shift.
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>>184295330
Will works well in after nerfs too because people will still using early game removal to prevent neutral board for alice
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>>184294396
>>184294560
>7pp balanced man that can't be tutored nor mana cheated and need followers on board to win the game
Dude's right Aegis is fine and so is Eachtar. Glad Cygames can see it too
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>>184293672
Tove as a 2 pp 2/2/ rush is completely useless. It will barely survive anything making it less useful than Vampiric Kiss, Razory Claw, or Hungering Horde. There is absolutely no reason to run a 2/2 whose only added effect is a conditional rush.
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>>184293306
Uhh I moved to Modesto, California. And it's not N

It's Nagi.

Nagi Stratos.
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>grimnir nerf is irrelevant, because it nerfs every deck equally, since he was in every single one
Really makes u think hard. At least you won't lose to him as often anymore, which might encourage adding more value cards into midrange lists. Might make games more interesting.
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>>184292436
I survived turn 6 spawns, I doubt turn 8 spawns are going to make a difference. If you're going to azazel or claw face, make sure you're out of Eachtar range first.
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