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Hellscream's eyes are upon you Edition

What's new?

>In Development: Garrosh, Skins, Mounts, and more!
https://youtu.be/59jgXbrI6bs

>Garrosh - Warcraft Warrior announced; PTR next week
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/heroes/garrosh/
https://youtu.be/s-_qEVW9I_A
>Talents
https://www.invenglobal.com/articles/2537/

>Heroes of the Storm 2.0
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20695700/
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/heroes20/

>For New Players
>Welcome to Heroes of the Storm
https://youtu.be/wPk004vsjuE
>Official Community Resources, Guides, and Tips
>Talent Calculators, Statistics, Youtubers, and more
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/guides-resources/
>Tier lists are effective guidance tools, but should never be blindly followed
http://www.heroescounters.com/map
http://www.robogrub.com/tierlist
http://www.tentonhammer.com/articles/heroes-of-the-storm-tier-list

>Current Weekly Sale
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20931725/
>Current Weekly Brawl
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20944066/
>Current Patch Notes
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20931726/

>Where can I find fellow GM players stuck in gold because me bunga team?
"/join /vg/" in game chat

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Where the FUCK is Maiev????
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>>184273842
>playing Malthael vs Chogall
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>>184274415
What will we say when Maiev is released?
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Post you're player level here's mine
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>>184273464
y'all noobs who replied to this got baited as fuck lmao
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>>184274504
where can i download your bot program
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>>184274451
If the cho'gall doesn't destroy Malthael it's because the cho'gall player is god awful.
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ALLIANCE FUCKING SHITS
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>when daddy left you behind to kill shit like a true orc and you cry your way up to Warchief
>when everyone gets together to slap your shit because you're on your iron period
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i still want garrosh to fuck me!
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>hover aba on cursed hollow, I'm last pick, communicate to my team I'm not set on it but would prefer it if draft fits
>first two picks already know I won't have good clone targets, swap off aba
>teammate 3rd picks Aba
>whole comp fucked up now
>he goes monstrosity
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WARCRAFT MAP INCOMING
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Why are people so reluctant with picking Wave of Force on magic ching chong lady? Sometimes it's a lot more useful than Disintegrate which isn't even that Disintegreat.
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I'm more excited about the L800 ETC skin than I am about Garrosh.
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>>184276359
I never cared about Garrosh, I'm just looking forward to the next in-dev video
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>>184276359
>Not Anub'alisk

My only fear is that they make it legendary because I just spent all my doritos on stupid shit. On one hand Anub already has a legendary but at the same time there's no way they'll make it only cost 400.
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>>184276298
Because they're like "why would I pick WoF when lazor does 50% more dmg?!?!?!". Bitches don't like utility.
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are there any non-support non-tank heroes where a utility talent and a damage talent are on the same tier and the utility option actually has a higher pick rate
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Garrosh's true fantasy kit that actually makes sense
Q - Iron Star
Throw an iron star at the targetted location. Long range

W - Summon grunt
Summon a grunt to march in a targetted direction and attack anything in its path

E - Power of Y'Shaarj
Channel the power of Yshaarj onto an opponent dealing x damage per second. Damage increases by y up to a value of z

R1 - Pool of Y'shaarj
Summon a pool of Y'shaarj's power on the ground increasing damage by x%. Short CD

R2 - Massive reinforcements
Garrosh summons a ton of grunts who attack enemies and structures in their way until killed

D- Summon Malkrok
Summon Malkrok on an allied minion anywhere on the battle field to attack nearby enemies, minions or structures
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>>184277005
Greymane at 13. Higher dash range vs CDR on Worgen Q. Never seen anyone pick the latter.
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>>184272834
It's me.

Trait - Controlled Rage: Activate to increase your movement speed, attack speed, armor, and spell armor for xyz seconds.

Q: Overpowering strike: Damage in a cone in front of garrosh. Chargeable. Press and release: Small damage and no effect. Charge for longer: medium damage and a slow. Charge fully: High damage and a stun

W: Nowhere to run: Line skillshot. Throw out a chain that attaches to the first enemy hero hit and deals damage. The hero hit is tethered to garrosh by a chain (think of leoric's W). The chain breaks if the hero gets far enough away from garrosh. If the hero remains chained after xyz seconds, they are pulled to garrosh, dealing damage and being stunned for xyz seconds.

E: Second wind: Self buff. Garrosh roars, healing a % of his health over xyz seconds

R1: Beatdown: Medium range targeted ability. Garrosh throws gorehowl and leaps to the targeted enemy, stunning the target for xyz seconds and dealing high damage. The stun and damage is channeled, so garrosh can be CC'd to peel him off the target and he cannot use any other abilities while using beatdown.

R2: Mak'gora: Short range targeted ability. Garrosh challenges the target to a duel to the death, creating a medium sized area, pushing allies and enemies other than his target out and preventing them from entering for xyz seconds.

There. This captures Garrosh 100x better than the thing blizzard shat out. Its got shit for the lorefags and the gameplayfags alike. It matches the theme blizzard was aiming for him to have too, only using his abilities as a warrior and no sha or machine bullshit.
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>>184277327
>I watched the MOP cinematics once

>>184277012
This shit is better than your diatribe.
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>>184277289
worgen Q is not dps though
it's like illidan Q in that, by casting it, you actually lose damage compared to just autoattacking
it's good for mobility and for waveclear/aoe but you shouldn't use it against a target you're already in melee range of
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>>184277479
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>>184277327
When you're on your deathbed and wish you had at least one more hour of life, remember that this could've been it and yet you spent it writing a shit kit for a retarded ape character to show off in a Vietcong armwrestling imageboard.
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aye man hope you're able to win this 4v5 for the rest of the game lol
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>>184276298
Because nobody realizes how important CC is on a non-CC character unless it's fucking Gul'dan.

>>184276590
I already blew my Jew Triangles on Fancy Tron Robot Anub'arak, so while Anub'alisk is cool... I ain't changing.
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>>184277327
Is that Sion?
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>>184277564
Fair. Glass Cannon vs Illusionist on Li-Ming then?
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>>184277327
People challenged garry to Mak'gora not the other way around, cairne and Thrall both challenged him. Him challenging someone else doesn't make sense.
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>>184277738
Sion's design was changed after Warlords of Draenor was released. Riot straight up copied that shit.

I miss old Sion.
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>>184277758
Glass Cannon is shit unless it's an absolute stomp. Illusionist is okay if you are either already going Teleport build, or if you need the escape against burst damage dealers. The real power talent at this tier is Canoneer.
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>>184277805
He did challenge Thrall to one once. Pre-WotLK, I think. It was in a comic.

But that guy's still retarded.
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>>184277619
The gift that keeps on giving
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>>184277898
The point is Illusionist still has a higher pickrate.
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>>184278057
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>>184278093
Pickrates are deceiving. You'd be amazed just how many players pick shit just because they were told to or always have. Canoneer is seeing more play now that high mobility heroes are back in the meta. Try it out, don't blindly follow hotdogs.
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>>184278285
But that's irrelevant because the original question was about pickrates. Jesus, don't start with the "ur all metasheep" shit.
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>>184277805
The first mak'gora he was in was the one he challenged thrall to in wrath. Doesn't matter much though. He participated in more duels than any other major character, he should have an ability to reference that.
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>>184278350
didn't click up to the original post, was just replying to your comment in a vacuum.
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>>184277738
I got inspiration from him, yeah. I always felt like most of sion's kit would work well on garrosh when I played him post-rework.
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>>184277012
i'd play him
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>>184277012
Wait a minute that kit
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What was the most disappointing thing you experienced when you started playing HotS?

Has that changed over time?
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>>184279184
Raynor.

No.
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>>184279184
my skill level

barely
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>>184279184
the amount and duration of cc in this game
if anything, it's gotten even weaker
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>>184279184
My major disappointment is that the game was in such a bad, horrible place for launch. They should have waited and kept it in beta for another year before launching. They gave so many players a horrible first impression at a bad time, and now many potential players will never touch it because they played the game when it was at it's worst. It's improved so much over the past two years it's like an entirely different game. The update schedule is in a really good spot and the meta is never too shit for very long which shows that they are actively trying to make it better. New heroes come out OP waaaay less often.

That being said, new maps come out busted as fuck and everyone hates Hanamura, but other than that I'm content.
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>>184276298
Because it's my job to fuck the other team not deliver a minor CC.
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anyone else feels really guilty killing pajamabathur? he's just a cute slug having a nice dream and you rudely murder him
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>>184279184
reconnect system
inability to spectate
no gifting options
fresh accounts start in diamond
reconnect system/engine

kms
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>>184279785
MURDER HIM AT ALL COSTS
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>>184279769
>cc doesnt fuck people
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>>184279769
>Sit there channeling shitty beam of no damage
>Die
>"wtf team no peel??"
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>>184279769
>pick the self-root ult
>get fucked

Sometimes it's not good

>they pick the self-root spell
>you can interrupt them on CD

Sometimes this is better
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Reminder that garrosh armor also works with shields so tass + garry will be op
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>>184280026
or pick a real tank and a real support like uther who gives free 25 armor on heal
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>>184279184
>ten minutes to reconnect, no remake, etc
>game wasn't finished on launch, which fucking bombed
>2.0 was an embarrassing attempt at a relaunch (glorified cosmetics patch)
>friends won't play because league/dota/wow exists
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>>184280171
>friends won't play because league/dota/wow exists

If you don't consider this a blessing then you haven't thought things through.
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This is how you shall make a true orc arms warrior (without Sha Corruption) with a huge axe and no armor at all:

D - Blood rage: Has a 100/100 rage bar like Sonya which fills each time he deals damage with autoattacks or takes damage (each of those can be improved through talents)
Has an active component which gives a debuff which gives you 10 rage per second for 5 seconds, increses the damage you deal by 30% and reduces the healing you take by 50%. Can be talented to give instant rage etc.

Q: Rend, applies a DoT for 5 seconds, 20 rage. 3 sec cd. If the enemy travels more than n distance while in rend like dash over 1km away, the rend will trigger "open wounds" - this will instantly deal all the remaining rend damage and apply a dot for the same duration which will hurt A LOT

W - Slam: 30 rage. 1 sec cd. Slams an enemy for significant damage. Consecutive slams on the same target in the next 3 seconds the damage of the next slam is increased by 25%, infinitely stackable. Hitting a bleeding target with slam reduces their movementspeed by 20%

E: Warbringer. No rage cost. 15 sec cd. Charges in a line stopping at the first enemy hero hit stunning him for 1 second and knocking other nearby heroes away. Generates 50 rage.

R1- Execute. 30 + all the rage you have: attempts to execute a target dealing n damage + x damage per additional rage spent. 1 second cooldown. Only usable if the target is below 30% (?) hp. Targets are being marked by an indicator (like valeera skull).

R2 - Die by Sword: Parries all physical attacks, and strikes a nearby enemy for every attack he takes.

Talents are like providing rend % damage, charge another charge, execute % threshold increase, die by sword magical armor aswell and increased counterstrike range, slams to reduce armor etc etc.
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>>184280398
>literally copypaste wow stuff

0/10 not even going to read
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>>184280398
That's literally just wow warrior abilities, fuck off
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>>184280471
>Literally a WoW hero
>Not taking typical WoW abilities
Anon, I...
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>>184277898
>Glass Cannon is shit unless it's an absolute stomp.
Glass cannon is the pick unless the other team has Chromie. Even then. If you're getting killed you're fucking your positioning.
>>184279885
>>184279897
>fuck up your positioning
>wow if only I had a minor CC
Maybe just get gud. You should never be dying with Li Ming's ability ranges.
Laser is for instantly contributing damage when it's needed. It's exactly what her kit needs to be perfect.
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>>184280571
is the same shit but some of them have a small utility or such.
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>>184280471
>>184280526
You prefer a john cena kit instead?
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>>184279897
Its great on saving people and stopping the enemy for a bit. People really don't expect it especially if you are using it with your combo talent which is great for burst. I usually get it when I know the enemy has a Genji going deflection build. Disintegrate is nice but it can leave you wide open during it especially with heroes that can get up your face quickly.
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I like how people are so mad about Garrosh's reveal and his kit that there's literally hundreds of concepts on how he could be done "better".

And after all these people begged for him. Monkey's Paw, bitches.
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>>184280739
I prefer a good kit with new options of gameplay and a generic wow warrior is not going to give me that.
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Guys HOTS of the Storm is getting Awesomenauts characters in 2018.
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>queue HL
>monstrosity aba
>4v5 always
>he doesn't bodysoak
>lose
>queue again
>our only healer dies once soloing everyone while we're quickly defending boss
>"omg fucking morons look at minimap. i'm not helping u guys your FUCKT NOW FUK U"
>4v5
>lose as he dances around in core

what am I supposed to do
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>>184280861
Yeah then you have to wait for another hero, since Garrosh is obviously not for you, because he is a generic wow warrior.

It's like expecting from Valeera to be a ranged healer. She is generic WoW rogue as she is supposed to be, or Varian, or or. If you don't want a generic wow warrior hero you shouldn't even have waited for garrosh.
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>>184281198
It seems like I don't because his kit is all new in hots :)
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>>184281313
It isn't about his kit in hots, it's about the name. I am fine with this kit for a new hots hero, but I am not ok with that kit slapped on GARROSH. They couldve called new hero John Cena for all I care but taking a generic WoW arms warrior with no armor but a huge axe and making him this is not acceptable. It just doesn't make sence. It's like they make a new WoW hero: Kil Jaeden and he will be a healer and heal people with holy magic. See?
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>>184280739
>>184281198
>>184281631

MONKEY'S PAW, BITCH
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>>184280398
>Garrosh should be an arms warrior meme
FUCK
OFF
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>>184280026
tass shields suck though, they are only there for the lifesteal
if you said Zarya you'd be talking
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>>184281631
I can agree with this. His kit isn't really bad, there's just nothing that feels particularly "Garrosh" about it.

Should've been something more aggresive, decisive and unyielding. Instead he's more of a team player than Varian.
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>>184281631
Well I'm ok with it because is new and not generic wow stuff.
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>>184280398
the rupture ripoff thing seems neat but other than that he would be kind of dull to play. 90% of your teamfight is just spamming slam
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>>184282319
>>184281631
It's Garrosh because they say it is. You fucking degenerate fans think you know better than the actual company that made him, and better than the developers who translated him into another game. You're sad as fuck and petty insentient little whining bitch ass children over nothing.

He's made, he's out on Monday, stop shitposting already.
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>>184280951
good i want to play the fat suicide bomber robot
and the emo kid who spends her hp to turn into a glowy red ball of pure 1v5
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>New hero announced! Maiev Shadowsong SUPPORT will be coming to the nexus on...
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>>184282707
>implying you'll get existing characters instead of new ones for launch crossovers
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>>184282531
>Spamming slam

Typical MoP arms warrior, nothing wrong with that :^)

>>184282656
I wanna see your face when they will release a healer maiev who will throw daggers at teammates.
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>>184282656
>muh'pinions
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>>184283107
nigga we already got sonya for that. fuck off.
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>>184283054
she will be a zeratul skin, waifufag
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>>184283209
Well that is kinda obvious.
Blink? Check
Dagger which sticks on the enemy? Check.
Invisibility? Check
Prison? Check

All people want is just Zeratul with tits, they don't care about the skills, they only care about tits. Maiev is gonna be a healer like some before posted, and people will still buy her because tits-
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>>184281603
>it's another 'quick match abathur on a presence required objective map' game
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>>184283054
>Kel'thuzad announced
>he's a support
>a Medivh/Tassadar "support"
>more of a shitpick than abathur
i can't wait
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>>184282656
>Appealing to authority
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>enemy team collapses like fuck on stitches hook
>my team doesn't see the giant "TAUNTED" above the tracers head and she recalls and blinks out with a sliver of health
>demoted

this wasn't even me unga team bunga this was enemy team actually fucking worked together. they did the opposite of bunga, they body blocked and waited for the stitch hook before engaging instead of morales running forward and immediately getting gorged
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screen cap this
next hero code name "Phoenix"
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>>184277012
>all that shit
The one good thing about Blizzard's kit for him is that he doesn't have any of the the old god/goblin shit. It's just Garrosh.
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>>184284287
nooo delet
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>>184284389
Based hots team cucking the faggots.
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>>184280526
>>184280471
>>184282184
>it existed before
So? There's nothing wrong with that though.
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>>184284656
It's bring as fuck and nobody cares, stop peddling your garbage posts here and go shit up Reddit instead
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>>184284656
Is boring and lazy.
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>>184281313
>It seems like I don't because his kit is all new in hots :)

You mean his kit that consists almost entirely of stolen abilities?

Q Kerrigan
W Ragnaros
E is new to HotS,
R1 Varian
R2 The Lost Vikings
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>>184285027
You aren't even trying anymore
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>>184284656
because that'd be boring

so instead we got a shittier darius
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If everyone is reinventing his own Garrosh here is mine
Trait: Berserk. Like the armor up he has now but instead of armor he will get increased damage

Q: Deep wounds. Strikes the target slowing him for 10% and giving him a debuff for 6 seconds which deals damage over time. The damage increases each time the enemy moves,so moving large distances can be fatal.
Has a talent where when enemy moves over x units during 2 seconds he will get instantly stunned. Genji can get stunned mid e for example.

W: Decimate. Charges up and strikes in a cone. The longer it charges the bigger the radius, damage and a slow after that will be.

E: Warchiefs Charge. Charges in a line, stuns and damages first hero it hits. The longer it charges the longer the stun and higher the damage is so at max distance it will hurt a lot.

R1: Chain of Death. Throws a chain at the enemy hitting the first enemy hero hit. The hero cannot move further than a special distance for 3 seconds and remains chained to garrosh. If garrosh moves over the range of chain this hero will be dragged with garrosh (like dehakas Q but higher distance, much longer duration but no stun)

R2: Yshaarj. Becomes corrupted, grows in size, health, gains aoe aura for x seconds which deals damage and applies a dot on all nearby enemies, each damage he deals applies dot aswell, all other skills get stronger. This dot is stackable to infinity.
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>>184285147

Tell me how they aren't literally the same.

R1 = Taunt but with no way to defend yourself from that 1500 damage you're about to take from Rah, Stukov and Leo
R2= Spin to win that does even less damage
W = Empower Sulferas without any damage or splash
Q = Primal Grasp with even worse damage, and less area that actually pulls enemies in.

They made Garry in 3 weeks, blizzcucks.
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Please enough with the autistic Garrosh kits.
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>>184285876
Is aoe
Is for cc and you can use 3 charges
Is self sustain with single damage, if you're going to shitpost atleast said is the stitches E
You can use it on allies with talent, bigger range and a slow

Keep trying anon :D
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>they somehow ruined Garrosh
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>>184285973
BUT ANON SURELY YOU WANT TO HEAR ABOUT MY GAMEPLAY FANFICTION
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>>184285876
his Q is not on an 8 year delay though
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>>184286090
>it's ruined because i don't like it
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>>184285973
Go back to your cuckshed blizz shill.
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>>184286090
Can't ruin something that was never good in the first place.
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>>184286279
hots in a nutshell
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>>184286383
ebin sick burn xp
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>>184277005
Alarak level 1. CDR is the only talent that improves your DPS directly at that level, although the quest can technically improve it later. Even then, it's still a CC/range talent primarily and you have to use the 16 CDR talent to abuse that. Also you actually lose damage flat-out until you hit 3 people at once. The heal boost is straight utility as well.
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>>184286090
>add garrosh
>give him none of his iconic abilities

They are truly the maddest of men
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>>184286068

O lordy lordy, they took a moment to slightly edit the abilities to make them worse. How incredibly proven wrong I was

Big lol to anyone who plays garrosh and either dies when the entire team nukes him during his own Heroic, or tries to kill n enemy with his 100 damage heroic.
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>>184286518
>How incredibly proven wrong I was
I'm glad you admit it.
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>>184286482
>punching a guy is iconic
>le choppy axe move is iconic
a u t i s m
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>>184286437
Don't you have an immersive fantasy kit for Garrosh to write?
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>>184280951
I would spam the shit out of Jimmy, Chucho, and Nibbs. I'd say Sentry too but he's basically cooler Zarya. What happens when they port Genji though?
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>>184286649

Lol yeah man. I remember that time Garrosh log tossed a g- oh wait...
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The last time I saw Garroshfags this mad was when Blizzard killed their shitty non-character because they were done using him to set up bad plots.
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>>184286649
Name one (1) WoW character that punched people more often than Garrosh
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thrall needs to die
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>>184286807
Theldurin the Lost
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>>184286807
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>we could have had melee-Hulk Hellscream but instead we get ditch-digger Garrosh
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>>184286976
>>184287025
anon btfo how can he even recover?
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>>184286976
>>184287025
Ya got me. I should have said relevant character.
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>>184286976
>>184287025
What a fucking legend.

>Blizzard teases Deathwing
>All the dragoncock fags get hyped for him
>They release a trailer
>Theldurin shows up at the last 5 seconds and punches him and is revealed as the real new hero
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>>184287167
>blizz post a pic of a door
>OMW IS DEATHWING
>is not deathwing
>WTF BLIZZ YOU LIED!
wowfags are retarded
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>>184286720
hots is the most boring game imaginable to spectate
teamfights are so slooow and nobody ever fuckin dies

and it's always 5man deathball vs 5man deathball so unlike in dota if one section of the map is boring the spectators can't just look at shit that's going on elsewhere
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>>184286720
Peak hours for twitch have passed. Everything is 50-80% lower than normal right now. That being said, not much to watch since most streamers are either top GM or Bronze 5 on Twitch.
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>>184287389
>Dota
>Game where it takes the same amount of time to just afk farm shit up as the whole game in Hots lasts
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>>184287389
Dota is interesting to watch but to make up for it the games last forever while being boring most of the time. Honestly I rather have fun gameplay over entertaining eshit any day.
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>>184286720
desu did something happen with twitch today because across the board I noticed less streamers, was there an event in LA or something
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>>184287389
>hots is the most boring game imaginable to spectate
>What is WoW
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>>184287297
>blizz post a pic of Candles
>OMW IS CAIN
>is not cain
>WTF BLIZZ YOU LIED!

Diablofags are retarded
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>>184287867
okay to be fair i've never even looked at wow pvp
blizz tried to make that into an """"esport""" too, didn't they?
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>>184287887
>>184287297
Controversy builds hype. You're all being played.
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>>184287979
When I say WoW I mean both arena and raiding. They're both painfully boring to watch.
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>>184287979
I think they're trying to make dungeons an esport now
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>>184287979
They are still trying to make it into esports. They introduced fucking keystone runs which are just timed dungeons. Unless you are actually the one playing the game its not really that interesting to watch.
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>>184288127
Dungeons are their new esports lmao
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>Thrall can't instantly kill Garrosh with Q
fucking dropped
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>>184289280
LOREFAGS BTFO
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>2017
>not being a greymain
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>>184289280
>Thrall can instantly kill Garrosh with Q
>But he can't use his other abilities for the rest of the game
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>still no pirate event
um hotsbabs?
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Hero league is so fucking tilting. I've fallen from plat 2 to gold 1 this season, because of just fucking retarded things
>"I have literally never played on blackhearts before"
>"I dont own any supports"
>"remember we only have 4 bodies until level 10, so it's not huge if we lose the first tribute, the important part is that we delay so aba can get exp" "FUCK YOU IM GOING AFK"
>Die exactly twice in a 26 min game, the leoric with 10 deaths who is chronically out of position screams at me with "NO UR OUT OF POSITION".
>3 people don't like seeing a hammer pick on haunted mines (when we have firstpick samuro) and spend 24 fucking minutes flaming over it.
>Get a game with a raynor who thinks he's a frontliner, dies 11 times "BUT I HAVE THE MOST DAMAGE"... his damage is only 2000 higher than my lunara, which has died twice. It is his third game as raynor (total) and he is only level 100.
>"I know we threw by trying to take the boss while the entire enemy team was not only up but in the same lane as us, but it's really all your fault abathur because you haven't 1v4'd the enemy team the whole game while pushing 3 lanes at once"
>EVERY SWIFT STRIKE TALENT on genji
>genji's who get blown up *every fight* before even being able to cast dragonblade
>it's okay for me to only have two tunnels up as zag because they're on a charge system. Rotate around the map? Why would I ever do that?

And so much more surreal nonsense. I used to be fucking diamond. What is wrong with these people. They're complete fucking psychopaths. Please like and subscribe to my blog.
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>>184291992
>Me bunga team
you placed high and dropping to where you belong. Blame your team all you like, you can't climb because you are worse than you think.

WHICH is totally fine. Don't get upset when you lose, take a breather, clear your head, think about what YOU did wrong, and queue back up. If you're too mad to queue, then just don't. Play a QM, watch a replay. Playing when mad is the number one loser of games. Naturally some dumb shit will happen because of a failure of composition or teamwork, but finding every excuse to blame your team will keep you from climbing. Also, don't expect to climb in 100 games a season. Won't happen, so either learn to not care or spam games until your eyes bleed.
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>>184290469
>Thrall can instantly kill Garrosh with Q
>But he can't use his other abilities for the rest of the game
>Afterwards he loses his weapons and goes on another spiritual journey to find himself
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>>184292635
How is it your own fault? Don't pretend there's no element of randomness in ranked play.
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>>184292635
>you placed high and dropping to where you belong. Blame your team all you like, you can't climb because you are worse than you think.
See the thing is, I've been diamond or high plat for the last four seasons, otherwise I might believe you. Yes its possible for skill to drop, but even according to blizzards own metrics, players relatively quickly regain that skill/knowledge and jump back up.

>Play a QM
That's a fucking retarded idea. No.
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>>184292635
>Fill for team
>Everyone goes dps
>Forced to pick tank or heals
>Dps refuse to group
>Never group or get the objective
>Lose

Half the time I know its a loss when my team thinks Nova was a good first pick. This game is a team game not a solo game where you can carry without giving fuck about anything. Of course this is ignoring the fact you will probably get afk/quitters at the start. You are a factor on how the game turns out but so is your team.
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>>184293618
>Fill for team
Your #1 problem right here.

This is how you cuck yourself in ranked anywhere below GM.
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>>184282656
>appeal to authority
>invalid argument high school debate students learn to avoid
At least stop being this stupid.
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tfwnogarroshbf
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>>184293040
Everything you do and don't do on a secondly based makes you responsible for the outcome of your game. I said there is some random shit that might make you lose, but the majority of games are not won at the draft screen. Every game is winnable, not because one person carries, but one person does the shit no one else is doing right and makes the situation salvageable again. You have to be a wise enough player to know what/when/how to do those things and every single game is different so I can't say who's fault it is as a general statement without watching every second of gameplay.

Generally speaking though, all bungaposting goes the same way
>X teammate does stupid thing and lost us the game!
>OP actually did like 3 worst in the match but has low deaths so somehow all responsibility is relinquished
So what if your team does some dumb shit, you need to be the adult and take responsibility for the outcome of games by making smarter calls. It won't always happen even at the top level, but people don't climb to GM blaming their team for shit every game either. At some point, it's your fault regardless and every game you lose is a game you lost for yourself (Except rare occasions of intentional throwing which is nowhere near as common and bungaposters believe).

>>184293496
QM has a place. You won't improve if you don't practice. QM is for that. If you're getting mad at video games there are usually other factors that cause it. Learning to not take the game so serious is definitely a problem for a lot of people especially in low rank. Playing QM makes you forget about the baggage and just play the game. If you get mad at QM, you've got major issues.

>>184293618
>fill
If you fill you take responsibility for a bad draft by trying to salvage it with some shit you likely can't play well. Forever fill is forever derank/stagnate.

>>184293496
NEW players start in Diamond. You are falling because you never belonged up there to begin with. Stupid system I know.
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>>184293496
>I used to be diamond or high plat
which is like silver or gold in other games
curious as to whether they're finally getting the distribution right

>>184293828
ye seconding this
just play whatever gets you wins
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>>184294087
>>184293828
So throwing caution to the wind is fine despite it further fucking you in the long run? I mean I don't play super dependent heroes so its not really a big deal, but I can't stand watching people just pick whatever then later in the game freak the fuck out they we are losing because our team comp is shit. The majority of you fags who say just pick dps usually have some friend do the shit you don't want to do. Since you are not willing to do it.
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>>184293618
Don't fill until others will pick meta shit aswell. If they pick 4 dps without a tank there is no reason to pick a healer. If they pick nova or valeera just because they can you shouldn't take the game seriously aswell.

I usually say, first "If you pick that shit I will pick butcher" when they hover over Nova and when they still pick her I pick Butcher as promised and have fun for myself. And they can't even blame me because I warned them. All fair.
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>>184294639
Didn't say pick DPS. If you don't have 4-6 comfort picks that you are legit good at and can make work regardless of comp you shouldn't be in ranked anyway. If you try and draft 68 characters every time you play you're going to suck. It's common sense.
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>>184294753
>tfw team drafts all assassins/bruisers and we win in 8 minutes
once of those instances in which nobody was willing to swap

also lost to an all assassin comp which I'm still not sure how they managed to pull off
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>>184294639
No, the point is that if your teamcomp is shit, one solo Malf or Varian or whatever pick in the filled role won't change shit 99% of the time.

So you pick according to what you're good with that you think can make use of your teamcomp and the enemy's. Go full retard, or don't. No half measures, Walt.
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>>184294087
>NEW players start in Diamond. You are falling because you never belonged up there to begin with. Stupid system I know.
In 2.0, btw I like the assertion that I never belonged there, like I somehow got placed there and just stayed there perpetually, I climbed up there *from* gold, and stayed there for a good 1500+ games.

>Practice in QM
That's a horrible idea, QM is a silly place where you cannot expect a reasonable approximation of the type of match you'd expect in HL.
>If you get mad at QM, you've got major issues.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oppositional_defiant_disorder Part of the 10% lifetime persistency club! It's a frustration disorder and I cannot stand the silly shit that goes on in qm ("ignore everything lets just fight all the time"). Image related.

>>184294116
When I played league yeaaaars ago I used to be in what amounted to roughly the top 10% of the game at that time. Diamond is currently calibrated to be somewhere around the top 7% of the playerbase? So, yeah I felt just fine sitting at edge of dia/plat.
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>>184294753
>Fun

I don't find it fun to losing if I wanted to do dick around I play QM. I usually just ban nova which gets them upset enough to leave before the game starts saving me time.

>>184294950
Too bad a good amount of people can't play anything beyond a single roll then freak out when they don't get what they want. I find it funny people supporting is hard when half the time they just play lucio while afking. They really do need to make it requirement to have 5 levels in each role.
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>>184295234
If you're filling, it's probably because you can't play ANY roles well. Think on that one.
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>>184295372
How about the opposite? I am filling because I CAN play all roles good enough so I pick the one the team will need the most. Instead of picking another assassin I pick a tank and destroy enemy with infinite peels and CC.
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>>184295372
Personally I CAN play any role. Probably the best at assassins like Gul and Kael though.
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>>184295508
>and destroy enemy with infinite peels and CC
Your initial whine says otherwise.
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>>184295372
Wrong I played every role and know them fairly well I do tend play support since people always throw a fit about it despite ending doing more dps and healing then my team. I have no issue playing any role but the problem lies in the fact nobody is ever willing to play anything beyond their main which is usally some trash dps.
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>>184295667
I didn't whine about filling, that was that other guy who says he bans Nova (lol)
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>>184295689
>>184295554
>>184295508
Everyone is a GM that's stuck in gold. Diamond in this game is silver right? Get real.
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You know who I hate the most? Mains. They main all the time only 1 hero and braindeadly pick them in every ranked game without even caring about others. And I am not even talking about Nova mains (althought all Nova mains I met were above average in usefullness in ranked). I had met two times the same Sgt Hammer main. Unlike Nova mains this fucker was even cocky enough to demand all his teammates to pick certain heroes to support him properly. Yeah I am gonna pick that Morales/Auriel/whatever just because you instalocked your shitty coffin on tracks and demand us to pick that specific hero which works together with yours? No fuck you I gonna pick Valeera and laugh at you from stealth.
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>>184295970
Placing higher at the start you have a way better chance at getting people who know what the fuck they are doing. Lower rank games you are more open to trolls/afkers regardless if you know your shit you still have to work with these people in order to win since it is a team game. Lets not forget you probably went with a friend who knows his shit so you have at least one person to rely on then nobody.
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>>184296275
Welcome to the HL shit show. Either you pick the supports to enable the shitty one trick pony for a chance to win or pick whatever and get a pissed off team mate that decreases your chance of winning. Sadly Blizzard won't fix this behavior because the player base isn't big enough.
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>>184296382
Still I would expect high plat people to at least have a basic knowledge of the game.
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>>184296745
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>you faggots constantly go "FORCED 50 ISNT REAL THOUGH!"
>decide to look at streams of what 'high level' play is supposed to look like
>join some fag that is 38 GM
>literally the first thing i hear is "illidan is high skill cap, vikings aren't"
>faggot plays guldan and dies THREE times within 90 seconds
>instantly blaming stiches for not body blocking shots for him.
>leave stream and go to several others, looking for a good HIGH SKILL player
>stupid women
>gooks
>faggots with cringy as fuck normie shit all over their page
jesus christ, this game is a fucking magnet for the utter most CANCER in the 'gaming community'
anyone who thinks forced 50 isn't real, and rank matters in the SLIGHTEST needs to kill themselves.
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>>184296745
No, not really.

>>184297923
Hey, I know a few people like you. What's your rank? Just curious.
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>tfw 6 loss streak
how do you not get tilted /hotsg/? I won't say every loss was because of my team but every loss was because of my team
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>no more summerfags playing
it feels good
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>>184298116
(((they))) decided i should be in gold 5, and i have only been able to get to gold 4 before being force 50ed back into gold 5. this has happened about 8 times thoughout my entire time playing this game, so i gave up a while ago and started shitpicking abbey and the lost memekings into maps and am almost down to silver 2 now!

but i dont think i'll ever hit silver 2, the forced 50 works both ways,
and wont let me lose enough to derank more than one league where the game thinks im supposed ot be
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>>184297923
>want to watch high skill MOBA play
>ignoring gooks in a gook-dominated scene
(You)'re not even trying.
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>>184298324
Take a break, stop taking it so seriously.

Only constant
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>>184297923
nobody who plays this game is good at videogames
being grandmaster in hots is like being valedictorian at a special ed school
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>>184298439
fuck chinks, they are barely better than the mudslimes and shitskins.

>>184298479
kill yourself.

>>184298324
>only 6
try fucking 10, nigger
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>>184298437
>this post
>WHY DO I KEEP LOSING LEL FORCE 50!
Where you belong
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>>184298697
>go on a winning streak through carrying my team because my team is semi-competent
>promotion
>keep winning, close to another promotion
>instantly get paired with (((people))) ie. bots blizzard uses for forced 50 that instantly AFK at the start of the game. and braindead fucking retards that drag the game down by themselves.
>go on losing streak until you get put back "where you belong"
kill yourself my man, stop defending the jewish scum that oppress everyone.
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>>184298437
not sure I've played more than ten games below plat

have you tried just playing valla and killing everybody because they're basically bots lmao
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>>184298880
I have noticed this too. I easily win all my ranked games but the second promotion happens shit always hits the fan where its super difficult to win it. Of course if you do lose it you easily climb up then get the same shit. I really wish they just punish the afker and give you a loss forgive instead of being stuck with it.
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>>184299125

nigga... that AFKer isn't a person, its a bot put into your game to make you lose :^)
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>>184298437
>silver-gold
>in hots
>forced 50
There's no way you're even remotely competent if you're that low. Why do people do this, come up with some big, elaborate explanation/excuse? Just play the game and make an effort to be slightly less shit. That's all there is.
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>>184299619
they're fucking retards, they're too autismal to ever notice or accept their own failures and mistakes
so they blame every loss on their team
and then they say "hmm, every loss is obviously my team's fault and not mine. this must be a jewish conspiracy!"
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>>184299619
>play game
>always have most kill participation
>least deaths
>most damage/healing/tanking in game
>always play objectives
>always lose because of some retard on your team that picks retarded as fuck useless talents, and or AFK pushes for no reason, or feeds, or misses all their skillshots, etc.
its LITERALLY never my fault when i lose
NEVER
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see, how could a post that retarded have come from anyone other than a delusional autist blind to his own mistakes
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>>184300014
Typical bungapost
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>>184300131
but its true, im the best player in every single game i play, its LITERALLY ALWAYS 100% my TEAM'S fault if we lose.
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>>184300014
Their might be some fault to your problems but I do know it is a team game and some games people refuse to work together in order to get the objective. League you can solo shit and win regardless if your team is dumb sadly that isn't much of the case with HOTS. This is why deathballing is just too good.
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>>184300238
ME ALWAYS UNGA TEAM BUNGA
ME NEVER MAKE SINGLE MISTAKE EVER
ME -ALWAYS- ME REPEAT -ALWAYS- UNGA
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>>184300014
>silver-gold
>talents
They don't matter.

>muh kda/stats
Apparently those mean jack shit if you're losing every game, eh?

Hope this is satire. For your sake.

>>184299881
like legit there are people in every game that memorize every little thing from talents to builds, items, meta, composition or whatever and still somehow get stuck in the shitter depths

traded a league friend one of my vulture smurfs with a ton of heroes on it for RP and he reached master in like a week or two and doesn't even know the names of most heroes, let alone what they do

oof these bungas are gettiing to me
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>>184300396
yeah, but its true. so....?

>>184300437
>skill doesn't matter
so how are you saying that ranked ISN'T luck based and foced 50 again?
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>>184300437
>like legit there are people in every game that memorize every little thing from talents to builds, items, meta, composition or whatever and still somehow get stuck in the shitter depths
i was like that in dota but still in shitter depths because 0 mechanical skill (and i never looked at the minimap)
luckily i play hots now where skill isnt even remotely required to succeed
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>>184300437
>my league friend got to master in a week
never heard that one before

>>184300517
The fact that you think that proves that you belong in the shitter ranks

Even top 100 players know when they fuck up, it always seems to be the shitters that think their shit can never stink.
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>>184286482
More like how Gazlowe couldve had none of fun kit like wc3 tinker. Instead we get generic turret guy... with some bombs. Woooo.
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>>184300661
there was a league pro who got to hots grandmaster within 2 weeks of starting
hots is not a very complicated or difficult game, as you might expect from something explicitly designed to appeal to casuals
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>>184300861
>WC3 tinker
>well designed or fun
o pls dont make me laff
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>>184300661
pretty sure I posted it before, but do be fair it was a fresh account with a favorable adjustment and he could've just had a lucky streak after placing diamond

>>184300625
ye god bless

know a guy in wow with multiple glads but still clicks his abilities. I think that's awful but here I am a sad shitty duelist. some things don't matter

like the talents of teammates in bronze hots of the storm hero league
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>>184300861
bombs and lazor are fun
are boring shit and suck ass though
the only fun thing to do with them is putting them down and immediately disassembling to get 6 seconds of cooldown reduction for your ult
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>>184300976
He started from Diamond though, and wasn't solo for most of it.

He played QM games with a GM partymate and then did ranked by himself after placing in Diamond.

Can't do the same shit just as quickly going from below Diamond and without friends telling you how to play before you place.
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>>184301095
whoops meant to say
>turrets are boring shit and suck ass though
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>>184300976
>pro
No shit retard. He climbed fast because he has actually good mechanical skill and awareness that transfers over from another game in the same genre, whereas ever other retard in the metal ranks lack such ability hence why their rank is fucking low. Forced 50 is something that shit players tell themselves to feel better about being shit and losing.

Good players tank to bronze 5 and climb back to GM all the time, that's not a failure of the ranking system but a show of personal ability.

This game isn't any easier than other games, it's just less convoluted.
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>>184301263
I don't see how that's possible considering an individual has so little impact in HoTS.
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This game sure is a lot better when you party up with at least one friend.
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>>184301665
haha what

>>184301707
agreed
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>>184301665
One person can do a lot, provided they know what it is they should and can do without throwing like a tard.
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>>184301707
my 2 win 17 loss record on cho'gall says otherwise
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>>184301842
>cho'gall
There's your problem.
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>>184301842
It just says you're a shit Cho'gall together.
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>>184301842

were you on voice comms
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So how many times do I ignore the skull-gathering on Haunted Mines in favor of camps? Two or three?
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>>184301809
How does that work if you team doesn't know what they are doing and refuse to listen to you? Are you going to be able to solo that objective alone or push hard enough to make up for it? I mean there is only one of you and 4 of them.
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>>184301937
i think my buddy is better of as gall than most other heroes though
when he plays morales he wanders into 5 enemy heroes who are all visible on the minimap while trying to rotate between lanes
when he plays jaina he runs up at 25% hp to right click the enemy heroes while all his spells are on cooldown
>>184301970
yes
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>>184301842
>it's the hero/game, not me

This is the shit I'm talking about. Were you on comms? If they're happy to play with you regardless of losing that much then hold onto them, please.
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>>184302072
then you must have been a shit cho
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>>184302072
do you at least tell your shitter friend what talents to pick
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>>184302072
If you genuinely don't think it's the Gall, then it's the Cho.

Can't even break 50%. BAKA.
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>>184301665
I love this retarded meme.
You know what shared experience means?
You can let your retarded teammates lane for you.
Image if you could roam the entire game in league and never lose last hits.
That's what hots let you do.
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>>184301809
Biggest problem I see is people just not understanding what to do and getting fucked because of their misplay
>level 20, better go splitpush before objective
>killed, game thrown

>level 9, other team level 10
>better engage 4v5
>team wipe

>camp is up, better go get it
>it's on enemy side, they get it 90% then enemy team shows up, murders them

>specialist player
>my only job is to push lane
>never help on objectives or fights
>lose

Simple as that. Statisticsfags are the worst offenders.
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>>184302073
nah we still have a lot of fun even while losing horribly
>>184302106
i dont doubt that
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>>184302186
>last hitting is boring
>they replace it with soaking
>everybody thinks it's boring and plays roaming/ganking assassins
ree

>>184302272
>we still have a lot of fun
okay good

also you can have significant impact as an individual it just...depends.
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>>184302214
Yeah I fucking hate specialist player half the time they are never around then get caught out. I even had characters like Medivh never help while trying to push. Best part is when they try to take a boss when the enemy is right next to them getting them killed and giving the enemy a free boss.
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>>184302775
Sometimes it's okay to give the enemy a boss and defend against it than going in and dying trying to steal it.

It's hard to make people understand this.
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Gazlowe my son, you are Goblin now, you must choose:

Will you take stun-synergy ultimate with potential to make up for being Gazlowel and help in fights? Or will you take Comfort Robo-Goblin and autistically take merc camps while your team fights a 4v5 and Naz wipes your mercs away in seconds?
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>>184302889
They just want to make big plays. That's the problem with some of the players' mentality.
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>>184302889
That depends on what map and what you have and how badly pushed in you already are. Of course I seen many people hellbent on trying to get the boss regardless if it gets them killed despite it never really pushing anything or the enemy taking it.
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>>184302941
a gazlowe who takes any turret talents at all is a failure as a human being (goblin being?)

the level 1 mana talent lets you build and instantly destroy your turrets for the cooldown reduction at hardly any mana cost
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>>184302941
I take robo-goblin and saw people in the face AND take camps.
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remember when robo-goblin gave 0 hero damage until level 20
oh god
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>>184302941
>>184303794
>>184303840
>gazelow can't fucking solo bosses anymore
FUCKING REEE WHAT THE FUCK why the FUCK did they nerf him?
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>>184302941
Just do Robo and cut them down. Stun humiliate is nice but you have to have a good combo and its still pretty easy to avoid it. If things go wrong you just pop your ult to run.
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miniskirt valla skin when?
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few things in this game are as satisfying as outsoaking and outplaying the lost memes
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>>184295372
I can play everything but assassin you edgy playmaker fuck, and I'm sick of you solo laning as Zeratul
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>change mount in loadout
>it changes the mount of other character as well
>even if it's fucking hero specific
>change voice
>it fucking puts it on another character

What is this madness?
Literally what the fuck?
Make it stop.
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>>184307815
doesn't happen to me, sounds like a bug. verify game cache and relaunch
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>>184307790
im sick of solo laning as zeratul too
can one of you fucking teammates come soak this shit so that i can go roam and do zeratul things? I'm not just gonna walk out and leave the lane empty
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>>184307815
>go into Try Mode
>allied Malfurion has un-disabled himself again
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>>184307994

I tried the repair thing if that's what you mean but it didn't do anything.
Should I reinstall?

This shit is driving me crazy.
Also, voices NEVER EVER change, it's always the default one.
I can't take this shit anymore.
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Normal or Neutron Space Lord Leoric?
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>>184308428
Neutron. Nice colors.
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TOMMORROW ON PTR!!
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>>184311705
Who is that?

It almost looks like garrosh, but they haven;him.
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>>184311737
>haven
baine
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but why
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>tfw removing Alliance shits soon
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How do you counter stitches hooking your teammates through walls and being immediately blown up
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>>184313091
It's brighttime, bitches. Hurururu AFTER I carry your ass to victory.
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>>184313685
Pre-hook:
Summons, staying behind minions, pre-cleansing, iceblock, vision of Stitches so you can dodge, MACRO and evading the murderball.

Post-hook:
Being a terrific Medivh, shielding your target to mitigate the biggest burst and using Leyline or Polybomb to prevent chainCC fucking your teammate up afterwards, dropping a portal to him so he can get the fuck out.
Playing Genji or characters with similar good escape.
Perfect coordination with multiple globals to immediately engage and save the hooked person, preferably with GoaK Uther or Divine Shield.

Countering Stitches is a lot harder than playing a good Stitches, to be honest.
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>>184313685
pre cleanse. It's hard to pull off but also really fun, it makes you feel like a pro.
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I hate league but i really like the design of darius in league, I was hoping garrosh would be a darius copy but perhaps grom will be the darius HoTs hero?
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>>184316716
We literally have 1 alliance leader in hots and it's a fucking human thrall faggot.
We need more alliance best race , humans, before they add any brown nigger, night nigger, high nigger or tree nigger.
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>>184317748
What did your autism attack have to do with grom being a darius clone in HoTs?
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>garrosh
>another fucking warcraft character
>there is only ONE blizzard classic character
>and TLV have been there since LAUNCH
>no rock and roll racer
>no blackthorne
this is fucking gay.
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>*TUNK*
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What do you think will Blizzard announce at Blizzcon?
You think it will be mostly Warcraft themed heroes because of WC3 Remastered?
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>>184317901
No more horde niggers. Grom can fuck off and be a skin for garrosh which is the only thing he deserves.
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>>184317748
>1 alliance leader in hots
>Varian
>Falstad and Muradin (2/3 of dwarf leaders)
>Jaina
>Tyrande
>Malfurion
>>
>play li ming
>no one has any interest in wave clear, not even with the dragon.
so this is the combined power of weekend and summer hots
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>>184318446
i don't disagree with less orcs (less orcs and shitty humans from both franchises thank you)
you have tyrande and uther too
isn't malfuction alliance too?
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>>184317748
Garithos is never going to happen anon.
Just let it go.
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the next warcraft hero BETTER be fucking the qt futa draenei grill with a 10 inch horsecock or im gonna fucking firebomb blizzard for their bullshit heresy!
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>>184318936
Interesting...
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Xul is elite
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>>184319460
>someone pings objective
>xul: lol why
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how fat is garrosh' dick?
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>>184319824
ask your mama
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>>184286767
>tfw someone else played Awesomenaughts too

My only gripe was the 3v3. Felt rather limited, but It was fun. Shame the playerbase is almost non existant.
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>be me
>play murky
>afk push
>get level advantage
>have autistic faggots bully me and hunt me for 10 levels
>hit 10 and take octograb
>nuke people, dodge all their abilies, safty bubble to avoid/heal damage you cant dodge
>all while doing 400+ damage every couple seconds from slime
>kill people as murky
>spray murky spray
>dance
>taunt
>voice line
>they get salty as fuck and start focusing you
>ulting you
>you just keep killing them
fucking
LMAO
M
A
O
playing murky is the real fun.
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>>184320313
>ITT: things that never happened
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>>184320596
murky is different now, he used to have better nuking ability, taking pufferfish build and hourglass at level 20 let you slime someone, put down two pufferfish, then stun them so they got hit with like 3000 damage between the two puffer fish, then you can follow up with running slimes till they die. i remember doing it to a KT who thought he was gonna get an easy kill. he was fucking mad.
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Now that the dust has fully settled and we are on to the next hero, how does Stukov stack up for the healer role? Did the recent nerf to vigorous reuptake hurt his standing?
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>>184321142
He's too weak against burst comps to be up there with Uther, Rehgar, and Auriel. But he's amazing against poke comps and comps that can abuse his silence with strong siege.
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>>184318651
I'm pretty sure Malfurion like Valeera and Thrall, sort of gave up his faction to pursue being a leader for his class. In Legion he's neutral.

Meanwhile Jaina is the opposite and doubled down on being an Alliance fanatic
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>>184318890
Why not? Did they say anything?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zZ0B8N_x-w
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I finally figured out the mystery of how to win in HL
just firstpick uther every game

wasnt really much of a mystery in hindsight
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>>184321432
>>184321142
>play stukov
>during teamfight
>just put a big expanding arm silence in the middle of a zarya CC, gazelow gravbomb, nazebo wall, anything that snares people in an area and just watch the FREE teamfight win as the entire enemy team can't do shit but auto attack.
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>>184292635
I'm more inclined to disagree with this statement. There is four other teammates who contribute to the team. That makes the impact one person has overall LESS than what I feel like you assuming one person can do.

I agree with taking a breather and looking back, but I firmly believe there is situations where five tilted people get put into a match together and it goes sour.
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295th for abby
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>>184324202
>Playing slug
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Anyone else watching the starcraft remastered stream? It's the peak of nostalgia fags not being able to let go.
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>>184324290
my meme slug is level 53. its my highest level character.
i have all his skins and have him as my announcer all the time.
abathur is the best character in the game.
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>>184324601
But he's not vikings.
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How viable is Auriel?
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Where do I find more builds? I know ten ton hammer and icy veins.
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>>184324759
VERY, just be fucking smart on positioning, AND HAT PEOPLE FOR THE LOVE OF TYREAL.
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>messing around qm with abathur because i fucking dunno how to play him the best possible way
>get ganked inside my own fort by zeratul while he manages to just run away with full hp
fuck stealth class
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>>184324869
>Ten ton
Literally shit, most of which has never and will never be viable.
>Icy veins
Usually old, or written by people who don't play very well

Honestly just look up some pros, especially those who actually explain why certain talent choices exist, and ignore the idiots who say shit like "Always take march on leoric."
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>>184325037
What's that? Hat Tyrone? Okay!
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>>184325608
>and ignore the idiots who say shit like "Always take march on leoric."

Literally nobody says that. You could've given a better example like X-Strike Genji.
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>whispering someone and ignoring them before they can reply
This weakness makes me laugh.
I consider being ignored instead of debated a victory, so this is always an instant win for me.
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>>184326321
lulz epic bantz anon!
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>>184325608

I don't follow or give a single fuck about e"""sports""".

Just give me some more sites that have builds or maybe I should just read a couple, take it into consideration and start making my own based on my playstyle and what I do with each character.
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>Queue starts up
>Sudden urge to shit
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>>184326321
youre just mad that you lost
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1. Which hots hero do you look like the most?
2. Which hots hero has the most similar personality to you?
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>>184320004
It went free to play recently, got a huge pickup from that. Unless you're in Australia/SEA or something, then I think you're SoL sadly. Very similar system to HotS except it also has a "buy all the nauts" pack for $25 like Smite does. I actually like the 3v3 bit, it'd be a total clusterfuck on 5v5 with how small the maps are. The newer heroes are a lot more interesting than the old ones too. Chucho is probably the only turret character in a moba that is actually cool as fuck, for instance. They added Storm Spirit and Batrider/Dehaka analogues recently too.
They even made the item unlock bullshit less AIDS by changing it from the old CoD-style account level+perks bullshit to getting them all in the first 3 character levels of that character. Still dumb but a lot more reasonable, all you gotta do is play like 4-5 matches on a character and they're fine.
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>>184327020
>Azmodan
>Guldan

Yet my favorite characters are Xul and Tassadar.
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>>184327020
Stukov
...Ragnaros?
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>no sexy seductress hero
explain this one
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>>184327020
Probius
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>>184327359
How the fuck do you have a Ragnaros like personality?
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>>184326954
How can I lose without participating? This is your opponent starting with "I QUIT". My only reaction can be laughter.
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>>184327479
I fucking hate insects flying around my house
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>>184327020
1 - Leoric
2 - Murky
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>>184327020
Jungle Brown haired Jimmy
Kael Thas?
KT is my main btw
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>win or lose a close game
>enemy player impressed me or I've played with them before
>whisper them "gg"
>have whispers from non-friends turned off

DEVILISH
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>>184327565
>look like jimmy
>act like kt

You're either Spanish, French, or maybe some nordic fuck I bet.

Either way, stop throwing my games.
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>>184318890
In before they gender flip him for no reason other than "muh female warrior".
Thank fuck taunt Varian already exists and doesn't gain infinite stacking damage from kills. He's annoying enough without that bit.
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>>184326407
That's exactly why I say look up some pros who actually explain their reasoning.

Talent choices change dramatically based on your playstyle, map, and both compositions, learning why one person picks one thing over another can help you understand what situations different talents are good in.

Though if you really want just a list to copy ideas from
http://www.robogrub.com/builds
Though even he admits that his builds are often assuming everyone on your team is doing their job properly.
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>>184327020

Malthael to both.
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When are they going to make Grom Hellscream a hero? It made me legitimately angry that he wasn't the blademaster hero.
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>>184328271

literally never now that garrosh is here.
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>>184328271
garrosh skin
>>
Loktar
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>>184327375
But anon, literally a succubus.
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hots?
more like colds
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There are a lot of posts concerning it and rightfully so. This is the first time so many people have been disappointed after a hero spotlight.

Garrosh's spotlight is just 4 days old and it already has the same amount of dislikes as D.Va's spotlight, which was released 3 months ago after a claw teaser which did not fit in any way. Remember that?

It is no secret that /r/heroesofthestorm is a nest of Blizzard sympathizers who shall downvote everything that they disagree with. It is also an issue on the official forums but at least there you can't get the posts deleted. Thankfully on YouTube it isn't an issue.

Take a look into the comments for Garrosh's spotlight. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-_qEVW9I_A

I came across a nice post today on the official forums by a guy who did a nice job pasting a few of the comments from under the spotlight video. I am not going to link the post because I suspect redditors will just go there to dislike it, but his post at the moment has 28 likes, 15 dislikes.
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>>184328686
six figures
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>>184328271
2-3 years

>>184327020
1. crown prince arthas with brown hair before i cut it
2. leoric, garrosh
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>>184328686
>14k likes, 1k dislikes
VOCAL
MINORITY
>muh agrumentum ad populum
>real life doesn't matter on the field of logiccccc
get over yourself
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>>184327020

Azmodan (fat fuck).
Arthas, would be willing to do evil shit to prevent worse evil shit and easily corrupted.
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>>184328980
Dude you are a Blizzdrone. You wont find a single Blizzard vid with more dislikes than likes. Probably means that the company you little faggot buy your 10 dollar skins from is so fucking good
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Now you harass me and shitpost some more. Awesome!

I didn't have any expectations concerning Garrosh, because I know this game's quality, but what Blizzard did is just an insult. You'd have to intentionally act out of malice to make Garrosh this bad.

You think yourself more knowledgeable on the matter than the numerous Garrosh experts and fans, who have studied his every move and act
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>>184329308
>people who disgaree with me are Blizzdrones
You are a child.
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>>184329413
stealth stuns draft high iq
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>>184328857
>leoric, garrosh

So what, you don't like people betraying you?
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>>184329413
Fans are entitled brainless retards who think they know the characters better than the creators do. They deserve nothing more than a good gassing.
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>>184288056
>>184288056
>>184288056
>>184288056
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>>184327943
>Lord Garithos the saviour of /pol/ gets replaced by literal tumblr sjwbait
Poetry of the highest quality.
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>>184329308
>he doesn't know about the patch 4.3 trailer that had so many dislikes that they had to unlist it from the WoW channel
laffin @ u
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>>184276207
I wish there was a dark portal map and the 2 parts of map would be connected by it, and would face same side. heres what i mean in paint

Orcs vs humans
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>>184329520
Nah. True arthas fans would never do this racemixing propaganda shit. ANd an insult to Arthas Menethil


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8ePY5K0y8M
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>>184327730
Albanian but I lived in France and Spain for a few years for my studies. What do you mean throwing games? KT is elf Hitler. Everybody other than blood elf deserves nothing but firebombs.
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>>184329650
Delet reeeeeeee
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>>184330007
Spaniards and French keep throwing by going in 1v5, Nordics like playing memeshit too much.
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>>184327020
1. Tychus
2. Abathur probably?
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>>184329695
>Hammer's Orbital BFG
>has to fly through space and enters the same side of the portal over and over
>in seconds
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>>184330215
Frenchies are aweful agreed. My IP still says France so I get proposed frogs for adding in groups, haven't won a single match while in premade, even 5 man premade, with frogs. I automatically report anyone speaking french in chat or in-game now.
Spanish are better by miles.
Dutch are retarded always saying dumb shit like OMG I'm so high/drunk and losing their shit whenever you call someone a nigger. Best euros so far are italishits and balkanfaggs (albanian, serbian, Croatian , etc).
Russians and hohols deserve a range ban.
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>>184313139
>As a tank

Garroshfags btfo
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Is there a hero level calculator out there? Like, how many games left I need to play to get to a certain level?
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>>184313139
>Passive is armor up
>Is half naked
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>>184330571
>Tank is the one role that creates game in hots
>Literally the leader since no one is supposed to join a TF without you
>The one that marks the priority target by using CC on him
>The one that bodyblocks and takes skillshots to save his squishy subjects
>Garrosh is literally all of that, the horde leader
>Muh it doesn't fit, he should be an assassin cuck relying on Uther, Varian or other alliance faggs saving him so he can go get ebin killz like a literal house nigger getting ordered to do X or get no heals
>Instead you can have him pull some cuck, throw him back for your inferiors to eat while you keep his teammates away so they can't help him
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>>184330695
OMG so sexist stop double standards amirite? #orclivesmatter #freethebulge
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>>184330979
BUT I WANT HIS KIT TO BE SIX DIFFERENT SWING AXE MOVES COPYPASTED FROM MY WARRIOR TOON ALT AND BE JUST LIKE THE GARROSH FROM SoO THE BEST RAID FROM MY FAVORITE EXPANSION OF ALL TIME!!!!
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>>184330979
Is this your predicted kit for a mountain giant hero? I like it, looks like it would fit him well! UPVOTE!
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>>184331113
Epic post! I also saw that Garrosh has a throw move and thought LOL THIS IS TINY FROM DOTA XDDDD WTF BLIZZ HE SHULD BE GIANT NOT GARROSH haha where's your youtube comment I can so I can SMASH that like button just like GARROSH should smash his foes with SLAM SPAM like my WARRIOR TOON!
HAHA ARMS WARRIOR!
>>
With what class I go to which lane?
Does it even matter in this?

I remember moba has some shit like this.
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>>184331249
Through your autistic rage you couldn't see that mountain giant has Garrosh's R1, not his throw.

Thanks for writing my argument for me.
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>>184331343
go wherever you want, it doesn't matter
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>>184331113
Be honest now did you really think he would be just Sonya/Butcher mix but brown?
Also laffin at niggers saying muh just call him generic wow warrior, same faggs cried after probe was released saying reee why generic probe not a lore character. The devs see the screeching, they already have the next niche heroes they want in game kits ready, they stick a lore character name, the closest to the kit, to it.
>More screeching
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>>184331343
Doesn't matter. There are not really lane assignments, but every lane needs to soaked for team XP by someone. If your hero can take solo camps at 2minutes, go the seige giant lane, but otherwise doesn't matter. If your hero has a global travel move like Falstad or Dehaka, go to the furthest unsoaked lane and then fly in for fights or objectives.
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>>184326407
http://www.robogrub.com/builds
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>>184331476
>lore character name closest to the kit
>who throws people around, pulls them, taunts them and gets armor every time he takes damage?

It's Garrosh
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>>184331476
The only expectations I had for him was that he would do a few things Garrosh did.
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>>184331343
The only general respect I've ever seen is most lanes are
>5 mid to start, break when minions begin to arrive if you don't get a quick kill
>best solo laner should go bot on most maps (not Dragon Shire for example)
>support should never solo lane
>try to spread properly so roaming gank heroes can do their job and aren't trapped in lane (Nova, Zeratul, Valeera, to an extent Butcher, Malthael, and Greymane)
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>>184331656
Whine a lot and be a plot device?
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>>184331591
Tell me another one that isn't a literal who dwarf faggot that was requested by community. I do agree Cairne would have been better with those moves but it's not totally unfitting for Garrosh either'
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>>184331656
Like punch guys? Like run away when the going gets tough into make believe timeline shit that got written off? He does do Garrosh things, just not the stuff you wanted.
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>>184331656
He can still throw thrall behind enemy gates, I don't see how you can't be hyped about that.
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>>184331807
at least Grommash
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>>184331940
Grommash is more of a berserker. His rage controlls him -> assassin/bruiser.
Garrosh controls his rage to fight better -> tank.
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>>184332043
>Controlls his rage
>Orders to nuke a city
>Calls Sylvanas a bitch
>Sells himself out to Yshaarj
Tell me more, anon
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>>184331836
You're right I totally forgot about the time where garrosh tossed people around or baited people into fighting him or generic whirlwind or generic heal or generic passive tankiness
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>>184332254
Because it didn't need to happen for it to be a thing he can do, and doesn't need to happen in a cutscene or quest for it to be his fantasy.
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The reason why Garrosh doesnt fit as a tank is because Tyrael deals less damage on 20 lvl than Thrall does on lvl 1. If Garrosh will be unable to put out at least as much damage as Arthas (and judging by the spotlight he probably won't, considering his Q deals 0 damage, W, R2 very little and E none) then all of you who said something positive about his hero fantasy/fitting kit deserve to be sent to concentration camps
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>>184332254
Yeah and how he grew armor out of literally nothing after someone has hit him

Like you were fightning a naked orc and then somehow after some time you realize that you are suddenly fighting a full loaded tank with 20 tons of steel plates on it
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>>184332254
>>184332423
Sounds like Hearthstone to me
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>>184332371
Every move he has except for fucking W is AOE. His damage will be fine, in fact, I fully suspect he will have a "damage build" just like Muradin and it will end up being fairly successful.
>Tyrael does low damage
wew
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>>184332361
>Because it didn't need to happen for it to be a thing he can do

Shouldn't that apply to other heroes as well?
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>>184332559
Yes. Take literally any hero on the roster and they all have invented ass moves that never happened that fit their fantasy as characters.
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>>184332648
But none of them have 0 crossover as garrosh does.
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>>184332721
>0 crossover as garrosh does.
He has crossover, just not the cross over YOU want.
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>>184332838
That's the most generic ability set he ever had in the game. If that's what they're basing WoW heroes off now, don't expect this game to have players for much longer.
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>>184332838
Shockwave ult would be amazing tho, I have no idea why they come up with a shitty Darius Q ripoff instead
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>>184332648
Ragnaros seems pretty accurate to his abilities.
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>>184332551
With his autos i mean. ELDRUIN sword... LVL 20 tyrael AA deals less dmg than Thrall lvl 1. you are a fucking moron
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>>184333052
oh no we're losing the WeWcuks whatsoever shall we do?
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>>184333180
Lose funding for being the least played and least profitable Blizzard game.

Hope you like skin recolors and 5000 shard cost mounts.
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Garrosh concept that is better than Blizzard but made in like 5 mins and with the Armor Up meme

D Armor up - Activate grants a portion of shield/armor that remains until destroyed. Stacks like 4 times

Q [Heh, greetings] Throw chain (not really long range) and chain the enemy. There is a certain distance they can move from you. Activate to yank the chain to move the enemy closer but reduce the duration

W [Very !!! powerful !!! strikes with axe !!!] - Next 3 autos deal extra damage and stun enemy for 0.25 sec (Garrosh would have slower AA speed than Grom so its ok)

E [BLEED...........] Strike in a cone applying a damage over time effect that refreshes with movement

R1 [Mak'gora] Creates a ring for you and the closest enemy hero to fight in. Both of you cannot be affected by other heroes. Garrosh cannot be moved out of the ring. If the enemy hero runs out of the ring they suffer damage. (Lasts until death?)

R2 [Some Yshaarj shit]


See the epic synergy between Q E R1 bros??? Thats how u design games
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Sunday evening has truly the worst QM players I have ever seen.
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>>184333752
>>184333657
>not only samefag, but actually samepost
how mad can you be
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>>184334226
Score was 14-44 for the enemy team.
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>>184334505
One was deleted due to a spelling error.
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>>184334657
Then both mad and autistic. Thanks for clearing that up though I think your last 18 posts do a good enough job of proving that.

>simultaneously shitposting the same shit arguments on the official forums
o i am laffin
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>>184333156
And? A tank deals less AA but has more sustain. Garrosh might 1vs1 thrall just like artanis can afaik.
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>>184333156
Who gives a shit about his sword hitting hard if he can out-sustain Thrall in both damage and HP? Tyrael can 1v1 Thrall just fine despite having lower numbers, numbers aren't everything. The ability to 1v1 isn't just "how fast can I kill the other guy" it's shit like "I have 3x the effective HP of this nigger and all of his damage means nothing". Nuance is something you WoWfags are not capable of comprehending I guess.
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>>184334825
Your only counter argument was posting a picture of the cardboard stand-in of garrosh for PvP players to smack and get a free achievement.

Varian had the same NPC waiting to be killed in Stormwind yet they didn't base abilities off of him there. It's no wonder why. These NPCs share none of the fighting styles of their actual characters.
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>>184335408
But he won't outsustain thrall since his base hp is low and armor from his passive is shit
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>>184335647
He can and does. Tyrael can outdamage and duel loads of assassins but not all. Thrall is one he can beat until very late game pretty easily.
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>>184335790
I don't get how Tyrael wins that, the Thrall needs to be a complete and utter retard to lose the lane
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>>184336019
>lane
Wasn't talking necessarily about lane, more of a 1v1 no potions situation if Thrall unloads his shit on CD and Tyrael unloads his shit on CD, then Tyrael should win.
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Every time I pick Taunt Varian and do a great job peeling and securing kills I always lose because I can't carry with damage or map pressure because the team isn't cooperating.

Anyone else feel this?
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garrosh dindu nuffin
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>lose 3 games in a row to someone trolling draft, tilting and feeding after 1 wrong move, or just running around doing nothing to deliberately avoid the afk detection

how are you actually supposed to climb in this game when it feels like half of the playerbase are comprised of either children or emotionally stunted adults who want to do nothing more than ruin things for other people
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>>184337238
By actually being a good player and not relying on me bunga team to carry you.
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what is THE meta hero right now?
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>no deaths while outnumbered
wat
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>>184337317
It's not me bunga team, unless you are a fucking god and you are not going to win a literal 4v5 with your Rehgar literally saying "fuck you morons" in chat and feeding until the game ends
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>>184337383
Genji
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When can I play Fat Panda Man of Many Drinks?
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>>184336759
No, because I talk strategy during the draft and ping in the game.
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>>184337703
See how many many disables the enemy team has with low cd, and then judge if it's plausible to survive or not
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>>184337703
When the enemy team is
>no stuns or silences
>backline heavy poke
>sustain melee
>not double warrior
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https://youtu.be/WP00gAjqlms

Post yfw at 4:39
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no loli hero
stormtards???
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>>184338448
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>>184338448

we have li li which satisfies both furry and pedo degenerates
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>>184338474
>furry
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Imagine the butthurt if something like reno jackson or ragnaros lightlord is added to the game.
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>>184338608
What's the matter? Not up to the task?
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>>184338642
rag lightlord is my favorite hearthstone card so I wouldn't be too upset desu. But they would just add it as a skin cause way too similar to ragnaros

reno jackson on the other hand would be funny, maybe he has a talent for his q, w, e, and an activatable every talent tier, and as long as you don't have two of the same ability talent upgrade (e.g. you didn't pick the q talent at 1 and 4) you activate your trait and ancestral healing yourself

definitely not broken at all
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>>184338786
furries dont count anon we a loli hero
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>>184337587
>Genji
>good
kek
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>>184339048
what the fuck
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>auriel picks ressurection
>keep using it in bad situations, she single handedly feeds the enemy so we lose our early game advantage
>proceeds to complain how bad we are when we lose
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>>184339048
m-moar?
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>>184339048
>>184338786
>>184338474
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>>184339048
>>184338786
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>>184337383
any of the overwatch girls
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>>184341602
Yeah, Genji is obviously the prettiest overwatch girl, that's for sure
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>>184341653
I wish blizz would stop being sexist and finally add an overwatch male to the game but oh well, Mei first.
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>>184341584
Who was right?
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>>184342896
I don't know why you're not fair
I give you my love, but you don't care
So what is right and what is wrong?
Gimme a sign
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P-Protoss Li-Ming will be 400 shards, r-right?
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>>184344441
Probably 600 then 400.
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>>184344441
>trusting the blizzjew
>ever
Stop drinking tap water, anon
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>hurr let me just stand on the edge of the objective and alone poke at them, I definitely won't get stitches hooked/artanis swapped/burrow charged and fucked on by their entire team

If I have to deal with this shit one more time I'm going to mother fucking lose my shit
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>>184344441
What are you talking about?

This is a LEGENDAIRY skin, so it's worth no less 2400 shards. Honestly that's a deal. We should be pricing it at 3000. Be fucking grateful.
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>Having to solo soak as Zeratul against three people while everyone else somehow dies on the other side of the map

RRRRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>184346220
Just don't play QM on sundays.
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>exactly 4 autists on the official forums spamming the same arguments that get shitposted here on an hourly basis
>There's so many people who are also outraged!
>even a thread that's a dozen or so cherrypicked comments from fucking youtube of vapid shit like "boring hero disappoint" and tries to use that as an argument
>downvoted into oblivion there too
what a good week it's been
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>>184347207
>Hundreds of people complaining about "Garrosh"

12 whiteknights make it their dedicated to job to defend the honour of blizzard on both the official forums and fucking 4chins of all places.

lol man that shit is so sad. Blizz Senpai will never notice you.
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>>184347557
your face when
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>>184347557
SIX

FIGURES
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>>184347557
>Blizz Senpai will never notice you.
They did anon I won 50 loot boxes.
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>>184347557
Which one are you? Surinen? Cerimus? Zordrage? TrueHorde?

Literally spamming the forum right now, has to be one of these faggots. Or all.
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>>184347557
They did though i got 50 loot boxes
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>>184347893
>>184348075
>tfw I only won 5
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>>184347893
>>184348075
>>184348208
>tfw I got nothing
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>>184347965
Nah
I'm one of the other fags shitposting.
Which one are you?
Persone maybe?
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>>184347207
>>184347557
I'll be honest, Garrosh is the first hero I haven't been excited for since, like, Varian. I guess I wasn't super thrilled with Cassia but 2.0 was hot on her heels so the hype meter was at max during her release anyway.
Garrosh will be the first hero since Varian that I won't buy at 15k, at the very least. I'll wait.
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>manchildren mad about artistic interpretation and translation across genres because their husbando doesn't match their headcanon.

Pathetic really
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Which hero has the worst skins? I'm pretty sure it's Li-Ming just because she has so many and they're all shit but Tassadar's a strong contender.

>Tassadar but spiky
>Tassadar but with a dog head
>Optimus Prime with N64 low-res textures
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>>184347893
>50 loot boxes in both ow and hots
feels great to be a shill
remember to link your 4chan account with blizzard net
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>>184349543
Sorry anon I don't play overwatch, try again sweetie :)
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>>184349409
Tracer. None of them look good.
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>releasing a shitload of starcraft skins/new tints along with a warcraft character
>not with the starcraft character you just released
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>>184349409
Stitches by far, they never implemented the terran/zerg skins they showed when it was blizzard dota/allstars
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>>184349597
I just collect the boxes doll. :3
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>>184349757
>appeasing wowcrap niggers ever
lol no
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how did I see someone using an MVP Black banner in qm? Aren't these like not available yet?
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>>184349409

>Li Ming's skins are bad

Anon, why do you hate ass?
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>Play QM
>Try to level Valeera
>Enemy isn't blind
>Team screams at me to go in
>Enemy jumps the second I am in range

Stealth is only good for taking out retards.
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>>184327020
1. Jaina
2. Jaina
I hate Jaina.
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>>184346220
By far the worst thing in this game. Laning against two or three and yet people on your team still manage to die to the other 2.
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>>184338642
I would love Reno Jackson as the first HS hero, him fighting makes more sense than the fucking Innkeeper.
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>>184352473
>not RAFAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAM
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>>184319824
How the fuck?
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>>184352606
The whole League of expolerers is amazing, any of them would be fine as a hero. Fitting how that expansion was the last good one.
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>tfw garrosh kit is fucking great
>tfw orc fags literally got ORCED by the big orc man himself
Fucking hilarious
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>>184328023
>Talent choices change dramatically based on your playstyle, map, and both compositions
for the 15% of heroes who have actual well-designed well-balanced talent trees, maybe
blizz isn't competent enough at game balance to really achieve this though
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>>184353130
>tfw garrosh kit fits a tauren chieftain, giant, doomguard and pitlord more than garrosh
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I want intentional throwers and feeders in ranked banned from ranked for a full season. This is utterly ruining the game. This is the only blizzard game plagued by this nightmare. WoW ranked pvp is team queue, Hearthstone is 1v1, Starcraft is mostly 1v1 and Overwatch bans people for entire seasons if they misbehave. People who queue for hero league need to click a big red button that they agree to not give up and to keep trying to win and play competitively until either core dies.
I'm not talking about leavers, disconnects happen. But people who intentionally feed or afk in base are way too frequent and plentiful for me to believe that those reports actually do enough.
1 in 3 of my games has a feeder or afker either on my team or the enemy team.
Enough is enough, if blizzard isn't going to take the game seriously why are we supposed to?

PS. I'm technically bronze but if it wasn't for all the intentional feeders and AFKers I would be Diamond at least.
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>>184353213
>it doesn't fiiiiiiiiiiit waaaaaaah
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>>184353289
Imma use my big orc cock to THROW you into the enemy fort, fag.
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>>184338135
https://youtu.be/QskgU_r3pb4?t=140
2:20
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>>184342896
Rexxar turned out aight. Then they changed out misha controls. So a bit more fun. Niche if you wanted to play Starcaft Lite in this shitty starcraft engine mod.
As for the other part. Rexxar wouldn't give LiWee the dickins even though they share the same sentiments about horde vs alliance.
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>>184353301
>it fits
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>autists are still complaining that Garrosh's kit doesn't fit
You are fucking retarded. Thank god we got a tank instead of another boring assasin or bruiser. And at least we still have a chance to get his daddy in as an assasin.
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>>184353617
>tfw you're gonna cry it doesn't fit as I toss you under the towers of doom cannons
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>>184353626
>Implying big daddy blizz won't fuck your wallet with a legendary grom skin instead
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>>184331343
your team's main healer + tank should almost always be with the team deathball alongside some damage heroes. in big maps it's a 3man group mid, in smaller maps it's a 4man group that rotates between mid and one other lane and clears both
the other lanes should be solo laner heroes. there are good solo laners in every class. a few examples: alarak is an assassin, sonya is a warrior, gazlowe is a specialist... probably the only support that should sololane is tassadar though
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>someone is risking having MVP over you
>toss them under towers so they die last moment
>MVP: Garrosh

O R C E D
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>>184353626
ERROR BLIZZDRONE FAILING

How fucking retarded can you be? Why do you exclude the possibility that they could release someone else as a main tank? Giant, Tauren Chieftain, Mannoroth, Kazzak, Aidan
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>>184354260
>wants garrosh to be a boring ass assassin, not a tank leading the charge ORCING the enemy team
Quiet you
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>>184336143
if tyrael unloads his shit on cd he automatically loses any lane he's in because he will have to hearth for mana in 15 seconds
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>>184354404
>lowest hero damage
>hey team look im throwing u a guy kill him !
>hits chromie 50 times still not enough dmg to kill her
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>go on reddit
>"wahh theres too many trolls and toxic players they're holding me back"
>"I had this toxic player that told me to [insert correct way to play the game here] but why would I even do that if I can [insert wrong way to play the game here]? These players are ruining the game at the bronze 5 level Blizzard please permaban everyone who hurts my feelings"
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Fuck off Surinen
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>>184354716
>thinks damage is everything in this game
t. silver
Bet your ass you'd be happy if Garrosh abilities did all the same thing, all dealing damage and doing nothing else
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>>184353152
Artanis - When to go dual swaps versus titan killer
Arthas - When to build around rune tap versus E to victory
Cassia - Q, AA, or building around blinds in general
Dehaka - Racecar versus Tank
Diablo - 1, 4, 7, 13, and 16 all are based on the map, and compositions
E.T.C. - 1, 4, 7, and 10 all are based on the team comps
Gul'dan - Corruption versus Felflame is about knowing your limits and the amount of punishment the enemy team has
Leoric - Knowing when to go full W and when to go into his dual soak talents at 1, 4, and 7
Li-Ming - Superior teleport build, of playing with big balls because of heavy CC or lack of awareness
Rag - Building around having absurd melee, good poke, or enemy dive
Uther - Can change radically based on what kind of supports/self-sustain your team has aside from your own
Valla - Is entirely based on building around your enemy's healer
Zul'jin - Somehow is actually finding winds with his AP build now

Still a miserable number, but I wanted to see how many I could think of off hand
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How good is Malthael? I saw him kind of win a 3v1; he didn't actually kill anybody but he made them waste a lot of time, and forced them all to retreat while we were got the objective, then he just healed back to full off of one minion wave.
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>>184354956
He's in a good spot right now, since dual warrior comps is meta
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>>184354909
Some of those sound like a bit of a stretch.
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>>184327020
1. Varian
2. Alarak
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>Enemy has medic on team
>Nobody goes for her
>Team wonders why the enemy doesn't die

I really wish this would happen when I played support. I guess it didn't help we had a Butcher who kept charging in alone.
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>>184355479
because hurr durr muh focus morales memes
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>>184355479
>can't outdamage morales heals
Damn nigga you suck
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>>184354831
Are u shitting on silvers because u are low rank urself, like some faggot 4chan/reddit faggot who got D5 and is proud of that, talking?

I am GML and play since alpha and my most played are warriors, not assassins. And 70% of my assassins games is Kael'thas from preseason

Garrosh should be a bruiser, like Artanis. Artanis has been designed rlly nicely, except his dumb blind ult, feels really weak thematically. Or multiclass like Varian.

We will be lucky if Garrosh will be able to deal damage at least like Arthas. Probably not. He will probably be shit dmg wise like ETC, really fucking boring and disappointing that a huge guy with axe fights like it is out of foam.

Anyway if u think otherwise u should be dosed in gasoline and set on fire in front of the very pigs that gave birth to a retard like u, who can't into basic logic.

Garrosh is not for tank. That is all.

And yes I would be happy if all Garrosh abilities were hit with axe for nice dmg, I would be super happy if they just made him a meme char like Murky and gave him card summons from Hearthstone, that is if I knew that he would avoid the fate of being made shit like now
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>>184355687
>this grammar
>these opinions
4chan is for 18+ kid
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>>184355641
I was support we might have a had a chance with Butcher but he kept going full retard. What is even more annoying is she always out of place but my team was hell bent on focusing the tank who was getting healed by her and Kara.
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>>184349409
the brown tint of ming's default skin is good. and the upcoming protoss one aint half bad either.
all her other skins are pretty ugly though
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>>184355837
>grammar
typical redditfag

pic for u >>184353617
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>>184349409
probably malf, stitches or tassadar

>>184355837
excellent rebuttal my dude
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>>184355924
>her and Kara.
>and kara
Well there you go, there's your problem. It wasn't the fact your team didn't focus morales, it's because they had double support and didn't nuke
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>>184350336
queuing as autoselect gives random skin/mount/banner/spray, including unavailable ones
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>>184356059
We had double support as well but the enemy always went for us while our team no matter how we say to go for healers refused to do it. No matter what games focusing the healer is usually top priority then wasting time on the tank who is getting pocket healed.
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>QM Zarya player with 9 deaths shotcalling
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>>184357616
Nice blog. Upvoted. How pathetic is your life?
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>>184357723
Less so than that guy I guess
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Reminder not to listen to "DON'T FOCUS THE TANK RETARDS" nonsense! If the enemy tank is the only person on their team you can safely damage, by all means attack him.

If anything, the people who you don't want to focus are the backliners who are not out of position in the slightest and are completely protected by their team, especially if none of the enemy CC abilities have been used yet. That will just get you killed, and I've lost games before because of either making this mistake myself or having retards who dive nonstop and hope for the best.
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>>184357895
this desu, if they have a strong frontline just draft someone like Zul'Jin or Gul'Dan who can put so much constant pressure on them they melt
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>>184357813
It is common practice to report you unskilled fags so you get banned from ranked
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>>184286157
>subjective
Nope. What a stupid lazy comment.
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>>184331097
>toon
spotted the manchild
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why do xul's think they can walk into 5 people and poison nova? fucking stop doing this you dumbasses
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>>184359979
Why do Xuls pick Poison Nova over Skeltal Mages?
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>>184360330
because they think they can walk into 5 people and poison nova
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>>184360330
Because in QM poison nova punishes the lack of healer or healer not paying attention.
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>Queue up for QM
>Auriel on my team
>Close game
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>>184358167
>He thinks reports do anything

Nigga, I walk into the forts as Leoric all game, every game. I never get banned.
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>>184360814
Yeah just ask Grubby.
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>>184360814
>>184360814
Because they are not reporting u for abusive chat
It takes ~25 abusive chat reports to get someone silenced = banned from ranked. Other reports never do anything
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>>184360728
im that auriel bitch what the fuck do you want
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>>184360967
who?
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>>184361560
/ourguy/
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>>184361652
no thats garrosh
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PTR tonight? (11:31 PM @ me)
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garrosh should have a beard
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>>184361187
Some fuckin healing haha
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>>184362082
>he thinks he can stealthly advertise himself if he makes fun of himself as he does it
Fuck off
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>>184362082
You are a prime example of why Twitch links are banned on 4chan.
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>Be Blizzard
>Make a hero with a unique twist
>His HP is very low but he spawns very quickly
>Works out alright, but hero needs talent rework
>Give the hero a talent that increases his HP but also increases the respawn time.

What were they thinking? This is so fucking stupid.
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>>184363197
They gave him a full set of tanking talents. It's part of a meme.
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Stukov is hilariously broken.

I love it
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>>184364141
BUT MUH HOTDOGS!
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NEVER FORGET 27TH OF JULY THE CURSED DATE WHEN BLIZZARD REVEALED GARROSH'S AWFUL ABILITIES IN HOTS.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVYmPIJt2BI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zobM8tq3gU

Besides that
- awful animations (which probably will be awful live despite "fix") and visual effects
- dwarf model
- pathetic damage (not a fact)
- awful skin tints
- horrible artwork

and the mad max skin is actually lacking and is an insult to the masterpiece that is the 1979 film. the modern mad max created a bandwagon that you faggots jumped on
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>>184364141
His healing is way too much despite it hardly costing any mana and doesn't take a lot to set up. Combine that with another support good luck killing anything.
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>>184364449
>the crying

hehe indeed
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>>184364449
>tfw still training myself to be able to cum to whiny Garroshfag posts and it's getting easier every day
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>guy who throws game at key moment: "lol gg shit team"
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>>184364561
Agreed - I'm getting 140k healing done in games lasting less than 25 minutes. What the fuck. Also they nerfed the wrong talents lmao. His silence wasn't OP - his level 4 talent that reduces the cooldown and mana cost on heal is fucking broken.

I have 5 man healing pustules up without any effort whatsoever.
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>>184327359
>Stukov
pics
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>>184365340
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haven't played in half a year, can i still play the same shit and not get laughed at?
also who's op
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>illidan got the silencer award after the game
Nice stat tracking Blizz
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>>184366413
was it garden by chance
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>>184366068
No one is really OP without being good with the right now. Genji is FOTM.
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>>184366413
Garden map counts for silence since I got silencer due to kiting the fuck out of the enemy with my plants.
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Best girl in HotS. Always makes me happy when she smiles on her stream, so cute.

I love her. I want to live with her. I will fully support her. She will always have a good time with me. I will cook her delicious meals after stream and we will make hot love
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>>184366813
>girl
>but with a penis and no vagina
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>>184366813
did the infection force her to change her twitch handle?
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@184366813
trying too hard lad

>>184366068
who did you play
probably doesn't matter tho
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>>184366813
clipstwitchtv/AbstruseRichArugulaBibleThump

OMFG
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>>184366813
>those eyebrowns
>girl
blizzard only likes trannys anyway
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>>184362372
no haha enjoy that blizz b4n
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>>184366980
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>Garrosh uses mana
ayy lmao Blizzard really just isn't trying anymore huh
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>>184367349
Mana is a game mechanic you fucking retard. Varian also uses mana as a means of limiting his sustain and the spammability of his moves.
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>>184364580
>gloating about decisions that are bad for the game's success
literally why
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>>184367523
>4 people upset tot he point of autistic rage
>DED GAME
laffin
inb4 literally hundreds or six figures
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>>184367436
>Mana is a game mechanic
and it's dumb on garrosh bro
>>
>enemy KT reaches level 20
>lose

can't wait for garrosh so I can toss these dumb mother fuckers away from each other instead of feeding living bomb endlessly
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>>184366981
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>>184367303
oh it already changed its name at that time
huh
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>>184367616
>bad for the game's success = DED GAME
wew, also
>being this pathetic
who's talking about six figures? you think that's a lot or something? lol poorfag
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>>184367935
also who do i buy
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>>184364759
The best feel.
Orcucks forever btfo.
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>>184327020
Xul
Xul

Shit. I never thought about this before.
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>>184368357
do you take 5 minutes to complete a sentence?
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>>184368357
nigga you ugly
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>>184366813
that a dude?
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>these teammates
This is my punishment, this is my sin, this is what I get for wanting a loot box.

I pray they are smurfs but chances are unlikely.
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>>184366813
What the fuck even is that nickname? It's too hard to remember so everyone will remember him as "that tranny"
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>>184368670
that's what you get for playing valeera
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>>184367935
Buy Cassia.

Both burst and sustained damage, permanent 60 phys armor if you know what you're doing, and has a blind.

She destroys other assassins in a game where 4/5 people play assassins. Think about it.
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>>184368283
>>184367616
It just doesn't really fit garrosh tho. Why does that make you guys happy?
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>>184369714
Because it makes autists really mad mostly.
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>>184369714
Doesn't matter. Lorefags don't matter. Gameplay is most important and having rage would not make him feel more "garroshy" because he wasn't a raging beserker. WoWfags think every warrior needs rage, everyone else with a brain thinks it's fine.
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>>184369276
Turns out the enemy Zeratul was worse than me on Valeera.

Thank you Blizzard.
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>>184370416
Gotta wonder what anub was up to all game
>no siege
>no hero dmg
>no damage taken
>0 deaths
>>
>Immortals
>Create multiple area stuns, basically a mini diablo apoc, plus a large stun directly underneath them

>Punishers
>Have 3 different variations, but all of which create strong area denial (except arguably the mortar) and will attack enemy heroes directly

>Golems
>As long as you literally are not standing behind it after its huge wind up it poses exactly 0 threat to you

I feel like this is a big reason haunted mines sucks ass
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>>184370562
He and Zul'jin sat bot for 80% of the game blocking the solo Probius and whoever came down to help because I was being annoying up top.

Enemy team couldn't do jackshit because of the cc and the range. The Anub was on point with impales though, saved my ass a couple times.
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>>184352606
>Rafaam is the rubick of HotS
FUND IT
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>>184369871
>>184369893
>antisocial manchild responses
oh, alrighty then.
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Abathur buffs when?
New Abathur skins when?
QM matchmaking fix when?
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>>184330695
>Doesn't visibly equip more armor as he gains more armor from his trait
what a fuckin' waste
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>>184371684
>Aba buffs

he's already very good
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>>184279785
Nope.
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>>184372124
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>Hit 40 heroes with Plague of Toads
>40
>The literal slowest skillshot in the game
>40 heroes

Blizzard why
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>>184373239
>hit melee heroes when they engage with 3

umm botbabs?
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Hello. Remember Blizzard promised a Leoric rework like 9 months ago? And 4 months ago or so they tweaked two talens and his AA damage. Where is the rework and why are you faggots actually defending this scum company? Garrosh in HotS is a massive failure and does not represent the actual character.
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>>184373859
>a character that isn't even released is a massive failure
but anyway post your kit for him that would represent his character
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>>184373859
There is no actual character to represent.
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>>184373986
Right here >>184277012
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>>184373859
Yes.

Blizzard also said "Well you guys said Leoric was shit but he's doing real well in comp right now so we might as well leave him". And then everybody stopped complaining.
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You ever just have a game where you feel sorry for everyone involved?
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Genji + Abathur is honest to God the most annoying shit I have ever seen in this game. Granted I've only been playing since Dehaka patch but that shit is flat impossible to peel off.

It gets even worse after 10 because if two Genjis focus on somebody, that guy is almost guaranteed to die. How the fuck do you deal with this? Just never pick a squishy backliner ever until Genji is nerfed to the ground?
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>>184280591
t. silver li ming
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>>184373986
Right here >>184334192
although I will admit W is sort of antisynergic with E but it can be mitigated with Q
its a really fast concept but thematically much fitting for Garrosh than what blizz shit out, and it can be very well a tank skillset because aall the control needed is present

>>184374238
>summons
no

look up any character hero concept for hots there is always a fag who wants to throw in summons
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>>184375028
>12k hero damage KT
>gg
Is this guy serious?
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>>184375493
Illidan was a bot too.
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>>184375493
desu he probably just rotated around clearing waves while his team stomped the pvp
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>>184375028
>Stukov
>>
WHEN WILL THE GARROSH SHIT STOP

PLS BLIZZ JUST GET RID OF ALL WOWTRASH AND REPLACE IT WITH DESTINYTRASH FOR THE BETTERMENT OF WOMANKIND
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>>184373859
>>184374238
Is this you?
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>>184375454
Like the only time garrosh used a chain was in that panda cinematic when it was part of the bridge. Putting the chain as a basic ability which he literally never used every outside of that cutscene is retarded as hell. That armor up is worse than the one they have, he never really used much armor and went around shirtless a lot, the only thing it's there for is to represent hearthstone.

A stun on his auto for the next three attacks? How does that even fit thematically with his character?

Most of that shit you suggest doesn't fit him at all and really just shows you have no idea what garrosh's character even is. It sounds more like you just want garrosh to have an anti-mobility kit but that fits him far less than his current kit.
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>>184376117
no, you almost got me. i talk to this guy in PMs often LOL...

but im not >>184374238
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>>184351557
are a female (__male)?
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What up with these queue times on the placement matches?
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>>184376119
ok you write a concept in 5 mins faggot
chain fits him much more because its IRON.... like the IRON HORDE... represent opression and industrialism

stuns good because garrosh would hit very hard with his axe wheres grommash would hit fast due to demon haze running around screaming slice and dice and other wc2 quotes
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>>184376593
Iron Horde was only a tiny fraction of his actual story. In fact, he didn't even really do anything with the Iron Horde in Draenor, he just seeded the idea and got the other Warlords to do the work.
>I played WoW once and think I know more than the developers
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>>184376593
Iron horde is a small part of his story, and he gets killed off during leveling questing in that expansion so right at the start.

If you think Iron represents his character just use Iron spike! Throw an iron spike in a line dealing damage

Spikes represent him because they are iron and he put a bunch on org when he remodeled it right? Also all that spiky armor orcs where. Literally none of your suggestions represent Garrosh better than the kit they are giving him in hots.
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why is it always specialistshitters who feed their asses off and claim it's everyone elses fault

>yeah i died 10 times but their tyrael died 11 times also you guys were never with me"
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>>184376119
>>184376740
you seriously have brain dmg
garroshs Q is straight up shaman style ability
his W - he restores hp from attack? he a vampire now/
R2 ??? a parody of bladestorm with a retarded visual effect to it, yeah go kys moron

literally every ability of my concept except the non existent r2 promotes dueling which is very well the theme of garrosh (duel with varian in dalaran, duel with varian in ashenvale, duel with thrall in pre wotlk, duel with thrall in nagrand, due with thrall before boss fight in soo, duel with cairne, taran zhu)

i assemble this concept in 6 mins so my supreme game designer skills are evident and you are nothing but a digital shitstain
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>>184376593
>ok you write a concept in 5 mins faggot
Also this isn't the point, you are saying his hots kit doesn't represent his character at all, so you should know what you want in a kit to represent his actual character since you know enough to "know" the kit they are giving him doesn't fit.
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>>184377271
Bloodthirst is LITERALLY a core warrior spell from fucking vanilla, are you pretending to be retarded? I sure hope so.
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>>184377271
>hits ground really hard is a shaman ability
>Bloodthirst is a fury warrior ability. Wowfags rejoice
>Another WoW ability. omg he's not like himself
>DUELING DUUUELLLLING DUUUUUUU
>shit some ADC bullshit like le bashes and call it a dueler
>give him a duel button, now he's a DUEL hero guys! DUELING
incapable of nuanced thought you are my brainlet child
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>>184377258
muh siege damage
muh experience contribution
muh stop fighting over objectives while I invade their mercs or take a tower
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>>184377583
And?
Look at varians heroic strike. It shares nothing with wow, not even the fucking sound. Its just a magical wave that he sends out of his blade, you dumb mongoloid.
No reason to restore hp when u are a purely physical warrior with a non magical wep Gorehowl

Holy fuck the blizz shills are real today

Your faggot company doesnt know how to make heroes. Almost all melees have fucking retarded self sustain What the fuck is this , faggot?

>>184377321
Moron detected
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>>184377271
Your concept is shit, he never used chains, a stun on hit is just like muradin's level 7 talent the only thing that promotes dueling is the bleed because they just have to not move to drop it and the ult. It's a garbage kit that doesn't fit him at all.

A side note too you give him armor up as well as a Mak'gora ult, in mak'gora you take your armor off, oil up and just fight with one weapon so they are counter to your dueling fantasy. Plus he only challenged someone to Mak'gora once, he was challenged twice. One on one fights happen all the time in wow
>>
why are you entertaining the delusions of a literal WoDbabby?
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>>184377894
>everyone who doesn't agree with me is a shill
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>>184377949
Why does Gul'dan have mana in HotS? Fel magic does not use mana it is fueled by lifetaking. Do you even know the lore, faggot?
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>>184378296
He doesn't regenerate it passively and uses his health bar to refresh it.
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>>184376117
I was banned from the sub for less than that. (I linked an episode of the boondocks about nigger moments to a guy who was flipping his shit and told him to be the white guy). Apparently that was racist. I also told someone who was white knighting that women aren't horribly oppressed, I guess this triggered a mod
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>>184368570
I take 5 minutes to fully get even the simplest idea across.
But the personality part is from my constant seeking of balance. I'm a right-winger around leftists and vice versa. I instinctively hate whatever becomes popular and try to bring up the less popular stuff. So... Yeah.

>>184368618
As for appearance, yeah. I have the same hair and beard but blond, and am unhealthily pale. Not ripped like xul is tho.
>>
garrosh coming tomorrow guys
https://twitter.com/BlizzHeroes/status/891804800886554624
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>>184379956
Give me patch notes RIGHT NOW
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>>184379956
Here is my blog.

Ok. His kit is fucking horrible for him. Might be fun to play, but that is definitely not Garrosh. Well I waited for this day since I started playing during Tomb of the Spider Queen release. If Garrosh is unenjoyable and is not able to kill enemies 1v1 like useless trash Johanna and E.T.C then I am finally able to quit this game. I have learned to despise it over the years, but I've really been just waiting for Garrosh + a new multiplayer competitive game (because it is definitely too late to get into LoL/DotA2), but not Overshit. I will of course keep an eye on this game, if Blizzard release heroes that will be interesting (Teron Gorefiend, Blackthorne, Aidan) might as well come and play for a bit.
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>>184380645
Quit now. No one will miss you.
>>
anyone who says they've ever won as TLV or won a match with TLV on their team is a fucking liar

never seen a more worthless character in a multiplayer game

>muh soak
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>>184381116
TLV is one of the more unique Heroes in Heroes of the Storm. They require supreme map knowledge and high micro skills. When played good they are very rewarding. Sorry to hear you are not having any luck with them in the Nexus, but it is simply not the case.
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>>184381374
>one of the more unique Heroes
Yeah, along with Abathur and Medivh.

Often said as if it's a good thing.
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>>184381116
The hardest counter for TLV is an ally team that doesn't know how to play with Vikings on the team.
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>>184381116
TLV is particularly ridiculous on garden of terror, where you can still soak two lanes while having one viking in terror and 4 teammates to assist them. He used to be worse when the plant the terror dropped killed structures by itself. TLV is also pretty good on sky temple, towers of doom and blackhearts.

The real trick though is that you have to be not bronze or silver to appreciate them.
>>
Can't wait
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>>184380645
>one less garrosh fag
nice
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>>184382479
Just remember,

Blizz is gonna make Grom a shitty skin for Garrosh, and then we're all fucked
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>>184382604
Don't care. Game has enough meaty orc boys. I hope we get some waifus soon.
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>>184382736
more waifus when?
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>>184382736
Don't worry, you'll get Garona Halforcen
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>>184382604
I hope so, imagine orcfag tears when they ruin not one but two of their adored epic alpha angry ape men.
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>>184373239
proptip, toads are a melee ranged ability if you want to use them on players
casting them from farther away is only useful against creeps or buldings
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>>184376593
my concept in 5 minutes

D: Armor With Way Too Many Spikes On It
active: for the next X seconds, enemy heroes who damage you take the same amount of damage in return. 30s cooldown
R1: some ripoff of Rupture from dota like all the other cool garrosh concepts have

everything else: who fuckin cares i just want rupture + blademail to bully mobile nerds with
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>>184383807
There are plenty of other characters that could possibly fill that role more fittingly than Garrosh would have.
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>>184383807
90% of Dota's strong kits are fucking awful to play against no matter how fun it is to two-hit rape people.
Imagine a world where everyone is Chromie and Butcher with twice the damage and all quests completed from level one. That's Dota hero design.
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>>184384541
Also better globals.

Mmmm...playing zoos all day every day is the best fun.
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>Warhead Junction
>Be Garosh
>Get nuke
>Fighting some idiot
>Drop nuke on the ground
>"wtf this garrosh dum as hell"
>right before it lands toss them in the center
>they die
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>>184385148
You know the nukes only do 33% max HP
and since Garrosh does a total of 0 DPS per second, they're still gonna rape you.
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>>184385923
Scaling changed, the center does more and scales with match time.
>does no damage
proofs?
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>>184386220
His heroic does 50 damage his AA does about 90, his Q does 81, his E does 91.

His only damage comes from his W, at 151 at a 12 second cooldown
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>>184386590
Scaling.

That's more damage that Johanna and Stitches by a lot who can already dish out some good numbers.
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>>184385923
>garrosh does 0 DPS
Just like every other tank that literally solos your backline unless they're being babysat by a healer?
>>184386590
You do realize that's level 1 stats? That's still half or more of a squishies health up front.
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>>184386783
>>184386694
Remember, HP scales as well.

You're still effectively doing terrible damage. Most other warrior will be you 1v1.
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What do I play
Lunara, Zagara or Abathur
If 0 I play uninstaller and free myself
>>
Trying this new hero league. Why are some heroes unavaliable?
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>>184387181
luna is the only fun one on that list
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>>184387445
You can only play heroes you own and are at least level 5 in hero league.
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>>184387524
you dont have to own them if they're available on free rotation
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>>184387524
I see, thanks. I i thought they removed that since you don't need to level heroes to unlock talents anymore.
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>>184387643
It just serves as a retard check, not that it works. Makes it so that you have to have at least played the hero before going into ranked mode.
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>>184387643
It's an anti-smurf thing, not necessarily anti-retard.
>>
What should be the last hero I play before I kill myself? I'm doing it tonight.
>>
That feel when Garrosh main and silenced for 1 year 6 months
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>>184386976
You're dumb. Look up the numbers for other tanks.
It really doesn't take much to kill an assassin.
If Garrosh can't do it, he'll have a horrible Winrate and be buffed.
Even Joh can do it with talents.
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>>184387767
imo dont play any heroes, just skip to the main event asap
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>>184387767
Li-Ming. If you can get a critical mass penta and still want to kill yourself, you're obviously serious.
>>
>>184386590
His heroic also deals double damage to heroes, slows for 30% for 1.5s, has 3 charges, 8s cooldown, and reduces its cooldown by 1s per hero hit. That's at least 300 damage before scaling (pretty high) with built-in CDR that slows, and even without CDR still has a net cooldown of 24s for the whole thing.
A 4.5s AoE slow on a hero who can pull heroes to him, has other nukes, and does 300 damage, even on a 24s cooldown, is pretty good. Also gets a 20% weaken at 20 as well.
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>>184387930
>deals double damage to heroes
this is just a codeword for "deals half damage when you try to use it for waveclear"
same as alarak and stukov
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>>184387643
Still there. Thank fuck they removed talent unlocking though. Remember artifacts? I wish I didn't, but thank fuck they removed that shit.
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>>184388087
>HE DOES NO DAMAGE
>but he does though, double to heroes
>WELL HE CANT WAVECLEAR SO HES STILL SHIT SHITTTTTT
the fuck do you people want jesus christ
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>>184387930
Look at the damage in spotlight you retard. It takes Garrosh three uses of that shit ult to deal below respectable damage toTyrande
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>>184388193
im not that other anon
im just saying that trying to big up the whole "waow this ability does double damage to heroes" thing is pretty dumb
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>>184388193
>DOUBLE DAMAGE!!!!
>300 damage if you blow all three of yourcharges
>not even 1/3 of tracer's HP

Get real man.He's shit.
>>
also jesus christ stop trying to convince everyone that your husbando is a high-damage 1v1 monster
he's a tank, it's ok for him to have low damage, you don't have to get personally offended when people point it out
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>>184388295
why
if it did full damage to non-heroes he'd be busted for waveclear

>>184388509
>pick an argument over something
>you're wrong and people point it out
>lol stop defending your husbando
????
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>>184388509
I agree with that. My only post in this conversation is >>184387930.
He has pretty decent damage by main tank standards. It's certainly better than Muradin's or Stitches', talents aside.
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>>184388728
>if it did full damage to non-heroes he'd be busted for waveclear

What?
You know that minions have like, 900 HP at level 1, right man?
Even if you had your ult as early as that, it wouldn't be able to do shit.
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>>184388903
Every point of damage adds up. Shit like Johanna doing bonus damage with Condemn (55 base damage x200%) is enough to make Johanna the literal "waveclear tank".
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>tfw most hero damage as tyrande on a team with two assassins
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How do I Malthael?
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>>184389394
build q
hit your e
teleport in
spam q
never die
autoattack people to sustain dot
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>>184389567
Should I focus all my talents on Q?
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>>184389768
unless things have changed recently pretty much yes

also get the aoe ult it looks shitty but it helps you never die
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>>184389768
don't take die alone, take duration
don't take the 4% heal, take physical armor
other than that yes
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>>184387452
is heal while dotting good or should I take spread AA on Q
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>barely play last week
>still get 5 chests
>don't feel like playing
>get this in my first chest
Oh no.
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>>184390164
The heal doesn't stack on multiple targets, so no it's shit always
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>>184390317
GRIND, YOU FOOL
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Why is the Li-Li announcer so lewd?
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>>184389365
People think she does no damage but that is very wrong and I punish them for it. I do wish they increase her healing since they fucked her utility.
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>>184390546
TWO
AT
ONCE
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>>184389215
That's still more damage than Garrosh's heroic, and it's on a basic ability
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>>184390694
The 200% only applies to non-heroes and has a 10 second CD and no charges.

Let's do some math fuckboy

55 damage on 10 second cooldown
vs
100 damage x 3 charges on 8 second CD +30% slow each hit

get your calculator up so you can keep up
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Why does Stukov suck so much?
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they need to buff cho'gall or somehow make him more survivable against his counters

I don't even play him but i'm fucking tired of playing QM to level people up and being matched with one and instantly losing because LITERALLY every single new hero that comes out has some form of % health damage or some insane CC that just shuts him down before he can do anything, it doesn't even matter how good they are when they just die instantly to malethael or stukov 90% slowing them
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>>184390974

The conversation was about waveclear, cuck.

That's 165 damage at level 1 on a 10 second cooldown.

For Garrosh, even if his shite heroic did full damage to minions, is only 100 damage per charge for a total of 300 at level fucking 10.

After scaling and talents, Johanna would still be doing 244 damage on a five second cooldown, comparatively higher damage than Garrosh for the sake of waveclear.

Get fucked. blizzcuck.
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>>184391660
because literally everyone ingame is crying for him to be nerfed he will only get worse because people only see his burst healing and autoattack damage and think that he's an unstoppable hero and instantly go into the fetal position around him

just his infamy alone for pubs thinking he is some god hero make him balanced in QM because nobody can fucking learn how to poke him down or what his weaknesses are because they are too busy making reddit posts in game about how he's a mediocre solo healer and that's not allowed unless you're playing uther
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Why do faggots think Garrosh's kit is shit?

I haven't seen anything in-game (WoW) where Garrosh is some sort of rampaging bruiser type warrior. That more fits the bill of Grom.

Any references in WoW to why Garrosh should have a different kit?
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>>184391660
Because retards sit there channeling their arm on empty air for ten hours and doing nothing else.
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>>184390164
the heal is extremely shit
it's designed to be sort of maybe okay in 0-healer QM games but it still sucks even there
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>>184392170

Eh... I could see reason for him to beat down enemies with his bare fists. He does that a lot.
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>>184392025
>people who cry for his autoattack to be nerfed
I always get mad when I see this because it's a fun addition to his kit and you have to be fucking terrible to be hit by his slow ass autoattack

it's almost like punishment for walking up to him just stay like .5 meters away and you'll be fine

if you remove that he will literally have no self defense and feel even more piss poor to play
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>>184392180
>people STILL take the fucking growing arm after it was already nerfed even though it was a shit talent to begin with
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>>184392889
Every level 1 talent is shit to be fair but now that one unironically makes you weaker.
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>>184393142
>>184392889
I-I take spine launcher
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>>184393142
the cooldown reduction on your slow is probably the only good one
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>>184377894
>magical wave
...that's lion's fang you fuckwit
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>>184392170
I haven't seen anything in-game (WoW) where Varian is some sort of shield defensive type warrior.
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>>184393142
>>184393404
Is Poppin' Pustules literally the worst quest in the game?
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>>184391660
>everyone said stukov would be op as fuck and would have a 60% win rate
>he actually started around 46% and is now around 48-49% in diamond and master
It's funny people are still convinced he is an amazing healer and everyone is just bad with him.
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anyone else play significantly better after a drink or two?
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>>184394157
I assure you you don;t.

You're just to stupid to realize how much you feed.
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>>184393578
He's not that in hots though, he's a multiclass.

Parry is technically a shield, but in fantasy it's just Varian parrying everything.
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>>184394157
nah only after getting fucked its hella weird
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>>184391660
If you don't have cc on a basic ability, you better have a godlike ult. And you better have cleanse.
See Uther, pre-nerf Malf for something with all three.
Rehgar and Brightwing have 2.
Medic, Stukov. Have one
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Is this the perfect team composition for my boy Illidan?

Dude was reckless as hell and I think if either of us 4 others were different heroes he would've died a lot more.

Maybe Li-Ming could be another mage but still.
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>>184396216
>QM
haha
>>
>>184396345
Yeah, in hindsight, the team would get fucked against warriors.
>>
gonna default skin brown horse main Garrosh until im level 50 on him and none of you can stop me
>>
I feel like I can't do much damage as Malthael without memento memori, but at the same time I wonder if I would be doing more damage if I took throwing shade/soul collector for the safety
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>>184396928
it depends on the matchup. Momento for tankier teams where you'd get more total damage from the increased dot, collector for teams where the extra/faster Qs will hurt them more.
>>
>tfw you can bully genji on lane with stukov early game
Can't just block all damage or hope to reflect a million attacks with it when the only damage coming in is an auto attack every few seconds

Stukov is a bad solo healer, right?
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Not a fun game.
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>>184397327
Stukov is a very good output healer but lacks the ability to react to stuff quickly. He's a pretty good healer, but overall a subpar -support-.
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I wish I saw like Li Li. She has so many friends!
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Astonishing!
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who's going to be the next angel and why is it Itherael
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>>184398057
>p0
Is p1-p11 her getting GREENED?
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>>184399003
nah just other cutesie stuff
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>Ace the enemy team on ToD right at their tribute spawn
>Boss is up
>All 1/2HP
>"Let's boss"
>Easy boss kill to win
>Only tank comes with me
>Everyone else fucks off
>We can't do the boss
>Enemy spawns
>Kills them
>Gets tributes
>Gets boss
>Team refuses to group cuz "We're ahead, ez game gg"
>Enemy gains the XP advantage
>Steamrolls us
>Lose
>>
Garrosh's kit is perfect
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>>184399731
>Towers of doom
>Tribute
????

also
>continuing to try to do the boss even when only one person comes with you
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>>184399731
Forcing boss when you know you don't have the man power is always stupid. You deserve the loss.
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>>184399731
>BHB
>level 20
>enemy doesn't have enough coins to pay
>ping coin camp our side bot to poise for move to turn in
>all 5 there
>our Auriel gets a wild hair and walks, alone, to the turn in
>gets deleted
>we lose
>"lol gg retard team"
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>>184400110
>>184400307
The towers are tributes. Altars. Whatever.
We literally got the boss to 1/4 with just us but had to back off. If ONE NIGGA had stayed, we'd have won.

But no. They had to "push bot".
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>>184400107
>>184400107
NEW THREAD
>>184400107
>>184400107
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>>184400447
>If ONE NIGGA had stayed
but guess what
they fucking didn't
that means you should have not tried to do it

and cursed your team out in chat
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>>184400567
>Do boss
>Win game
>Don't do boss
>Wait for altars to spawn
>Risk losing if you get BTFO or fuck up (You will because you're a shitter that doesn't do boss and end the fucking game)

Nah I'll attempt to win the game and flame at the same time tbqh
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>>184400447
Doesn't matter you shouldn't have attempted without your full team regardless if it would help you.
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>>184400802
>Do boss
>Whoops actually don't do boss because you don't have enough people
>Retreat to heal
>Rest of team gets BTFO while you're jerking yourself off in the fountain
>Lose game
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>>184400995
>>184400802
>>184400823
ME BUNGA TEAM
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>>184400802
>Do boss alone
>Realize you need your full team
>Team busy trying to get objective
>Enemy takes it then finds you at boss taking it too
>Lose

Two wrongs don't make a right. You should have just went with your team and go the objective then if you wiped then go for the boss.
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>>184286965
must punch faster
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>"wtf malthael you know you counter cho'gall"

no he fucking does not, and especially not with a Rehgar glued to his ass I don't know why you think I'm going to do anything to cho'gall he won't just outsustain
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>>184401817
>plays malth
>can't even 1v1 cho'gall in under 15 seconds
players like this exist
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>>184397327
genji is a ranged hero, there is no reason for him to let a no-mobility melee hero hit him unless he's retarded
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>>184406807
That's assuming the genji is a competent player. This game has hardly any of those
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