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Previous Thread: >>184003867

Alisa Has No Face and Must Scream Edition

>A version of the old Zero no Kiseki fan translation was leaked:

https://mega.nz/#!LM4Hxb5J!0LrSUQF0yPjveDVPLSSn3Xq1i_tSwvqXHIU9Rzd3fiE

Don't forget to support the games and spoiler the spoilers!

>Latest news

- New Gematsu article on CS3: http://gematsu.com/2017/07/legend-heroes-trails-cold-steel-iii-details-alisa-elliot-laura-jusis-machias

- Short teaser trailer of CS3: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYaV_GNqyCo

- Class VII is back: https://imgur.com/a/Pw4Cp

- New CS III scans: https://twitter.com/HDKirin/status/890226327122362369

- Trails of Cold Steel I & II confirmed for a PC release, first game will be released on August 2nd.
https://gematsu.com/2017/07/legend-heroes-trails-cold-steel-pc-launches-august-2

- Cold Steel PC guest blogs (written by port programmer Durante, of DSFix fame): http://xseedgames.tumblr.com/post/163454030210/loh-trails-of-cold-steel-pc-guest-blog-2-from

- Trails of Cold Steel III is on track for a Japanese release on September 28th of this year, confirmed PS4 exclusive, details such as the story and some new characters have been announced, such as Tita, Agate, Tio and Randy confirmed

- Ys 7 announced for PC, trailer released: https://gematsu.com/2017/07/ys-seven-pc-first-details-trailer-screenshots

- Zwei II e3 trailer https://gematsu.com/2017/06/zwei-ilvard-insurrection-e3-2017-trailer-screenshots

- Tokyo Xanadu out on Vita, improved EX+ version on PS4 and Vita still scheduled for late 2017

>Other not-so-new news

- Check out the content of the last Tits FC & SC updates, specially the translation improvements ( http://xseedgames.tumblr.com/post/159288714430/the-legend-of-heroes-trails-series-localization )

- Ys VIII: Lacrimosa of Dana brought by NISA, If you wish to complain, do so to Falcom, not XSeed (they're upset about it too). Good Japanese grammar is extremely recommended.

Pastebin (aka music): http://pastebin.com/G2mswYCt (embed)
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Calvard when?
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>>184179440
Never because Zemuria will be demolished in Sen III.
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>>184179440
Thank you
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>still no trailer
Who do I have to annex to get it?
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Man, Crossbell is heug. So many NPCs to talk to, too.
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How is Ys VIII compared to Celceta? Kinda lost interest after the ending spoiler but may grab it to support NISA.
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GIB CROSSBELL
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Which Evo soundtrack remixes do you actually consider at least equal to or better than the original?
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>>184180896
Leagues better than Celceta, and it's a big improvement over Seven also. But if you didn't like Celceta because of the party system or something, don't expect VIII to change your mind. It mainly has a more intriguing and better-used premise than the past two games, plus elements from the mid-2000s games reintroduced in a way that helps the story and flow of combat/exploration (like actual jumping and Dana's solo story bits). Game looks great on PS4/PC (and impressive for a Vita title), sounds very nice as usual, and lets you pace things better than before. There's also better writing overall, from the main cast to defined and developed NPCs who have unique sub-quests.
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>>184180741
The children NPC are the cutest ones yet. The best one is in Downtown's trade shop, though that only opens up chapter 1.
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>>184181610
Man I want to send that girl to paradise desu.
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>>184181146
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EceRuTBhTdA
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>>184181146
FC Evo. It sticks close enough to the original and has its improvements and weaker but fine arrangements. Ao Evo's also good but not as much as the original, and the rest are mostly junk. And some of the jdk Band-focused stuff sounds great:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChSNVxkC4dI

I still prefer to listen to the original, of course.
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>>184181691
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>>184181146
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJfjDZ2LWfw
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>>184182081
Faggot.
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>>184181146
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RiAmMmqrQro
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>>184181691
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>>184181691
I love prepubescents!
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>not letting Randy gamble his wallet away
Rude youngsters.
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>>184184010
Nobody cares.
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>>184184330
I care! People should post about their playthroughs more so I can relive the games vicariously through them.
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>>184184625
As long as it's not passive-aggressively shitposting with Japanese screenshots like people have been doing in these threads for years, sure.
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>>184184730
Only problem with playing in Japanese is there aren't much people to talk to about it. And unlike the Sky Evo games, I can't really make any webms worth watching because voice acting isn't present everywhere.

A shame, but Tio a cute.
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>>184185148
Are you emulating?
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>>184185229
Nah, playing the Evo version on the Vita.
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>>184185148
I wonder if she'll have a cat ears accessory in iii or will just have to make do with the obligatory all-purpose ears and tail everyone can use.
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>>184185337
Is there a way to get a copy of it for less than $100+?
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>>184185691
The PSN store?
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>>184183180
Not even close to the original
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>>184185358
She already has cat ears anon.
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>>184186282
But as an accessory so you can take them off or put them on Machias.
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>>184181146
Everything in Zero and Ao Evo.
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>>184186042
Evolution versions in general are better than the originals in every aspect regardless of what contrarian memesters believe, especially art and OST.
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>>184186783
Nah. I like the original OSTs for FC and SC better.
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>>184186783
Can't believe I'm being trolled like this.
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>>184181146
I wouldn't say it's better or even equal, but I like the sax in Evo Inevitable Struggle. It's not quite as intense so it feels less fitting as a replacement for the same events that it would play in, but as a standalone, it's quite nice.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gxds6IDKRt8
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>>184181146
Sophisticated Fight, Silver Will SC (original is not that great fuck off, FC version is better anyway), Overdosing Heavenly Bliss.

I think the Zero/Ao evo OSTs are all worse because they fucked with the tracks too much, unlike the Sky remakes.
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>>184184625
I want to fuck KeA. It's so gay you can romance faggots but not her.
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Will we fight him in CS3? Is he going to bully G. Schmidt?
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I love what the move to PS4 has done for breasts. And character models overall. They don't look like weird midgets anymore
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>>184189435
I hope so.
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>>184189558
Jiggle pyhsics will be glorious, can't wait for those Musse DLC videos
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>>184189558
it's odd seeing the text off-center like that
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>>184190457
Weird missing portraits bug in half of the screenshots they put out.
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>>184190942
Is it a bug or did it occur to them that having a 3d portrait right on top of a much larger 3d model of the same character is stupid?
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>>184191087
They should probably fix their text boxes then.

Makes me wonder if this one is going to be a buggy mess on release like Sen 1.
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I want to impregnate instructor Sara!
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>>184191710
I hope she finds a man that isn't Rean.
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>>184192014
She's going to be Laura's new mom.
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>>184192014
She will become Laura's mom if you don't get her to with Rean. Laura won't mind.
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How did kiseki go from

>My dad was just one man, and he had to work with others during the war

to...

>I AM THE MOST POWERFUL WOMAN IN THE UNIVERSE, ALSO I AM AN AGELESS VAMPIRE WHO FOUGHT IN A WAR 250 YEARS AGO

to this...

>WOOAAAHH DUDE CHECK OUT ALL THESE CRAZY POWER LEVELS, MAN. ALSO GO CLASS VII YAYAYAYAY!!
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>>184192597
>Laura won't mind

I wonder...

I also wonder when Governor Reignitz is going to tap that sweet Reinford cake and make Machias and Alisa step-siblings.
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>>184192796
>My dad was just one man
>Who was a fucking legend that saved the entire country from getting fucked with his superior knowledge
>The entire first game wouldn't work if my dad was around because he'd realize that something was wrong so the villains had to keep him busy for the entire game
>And even though he's not even using the weapon that he probably trained most of his life with, he's still more than a match for a lot of major characters

Cassius is ridiculous as fuck.
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>>184192796
weebs
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Which one of Estelle/Joshua was older again?
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>>184193523
They are the same age but its never been specified to my knowledge which one is older.
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>>184193523
Pretty sure I remember Joshua complaining at some point that he's actually the older one even though Estelle calls herself his big sister.
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RETURN CROSSBELL RIGHT NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW
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>>184194287
It's only like 70 years old and was made just to be a place where big shits from the empire and republic could do illicit shit. Where does all of this devotion come from?
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>>184194287
Will we hear that amazing voice acting in our localized version, bros? Now that president Kondo exposed Xseed they have no excuse to leave the japanese audio out again.
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>>184194036
>>184193650
>>184193523
According to the wiki, Joshua was born late 1185 and Estelle was mid 1186
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>>184194716

That's actually a funny point. Crossbell in zero and ao was kind of a corrupt and miserable shithole hidden under a false happy front.

You'd think the Crossbell people, who were already getting fucked over by their own government would at least give Erebonian rule a try first before trying to rebel, but they're resisting from day one.
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>>184194036
Think it was mentioned in the 3rd
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>>184194036
>>184193523
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>>184196696
What a violent twin-tailed loli.
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>suddenly ambushed by two proto-Arisas on the way to Celdic
Thirteen Factories has gone too far
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>>184199165
it's funny to see prototype data in the sequel to the final version of that same prototype
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>>184199521
Not really surprising dummied content is extremely common, its easier for devs to just leave it in.
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>dat Engrish
When will they learn?
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Pre-order her game and give her back her Crossbell.
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>>184200392
>PS4 only
Kill yourself, consolefag.
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>>184200251
hopefully never
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>>184200251
I've always been confused as to why Japanese developers put English text in their games like this.
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>>184200429
/v/ is that way >>>/v/ take your platform war garbage there.
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>>184189234
>Unlike the Sky remakes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLdvWNPMUB4
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>>184192796
You mean the same dad who fought a dragon 1 on 1 and became friends with it?
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>>184181176
Seven is my favorite game. Seems like I'll love VIII.
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>>184192796
If Trails in The Sky was released in 2017 people would complain that Joshua and Loewe are too LN for Falcom.
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>>184201002
To them it seems cool.
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>>184201086
The majority of people here only own a PC
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>>184203497
So?
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>>184203497
Yes I'm well aware of that. I don't own a current gen console either but platforms wars a childish garbage. People can play games on whatever platform they feel like >>184200429 this is reddit /r/PCMR tier shit. CS3 will be coming to PC eventually anyway so who fucking cares.
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>>184203923
There's been a few times already when they lash out when someone talks about buying CS3. Usually it's the people who only own a PC because they hate consoles and anyone who owns them.
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>>184204329
To be fair importers are the worst.
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As dead as Guy.
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CUTE!
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>>184206709
CRAZY!
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>>184179263
Daily reminder that I am going to impregnate Elie
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>>184206810
Hope we can kill that psycho cunt in Cold Steel III.
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>>184201223
>unlike the Sky remakes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jt-3lXi3Iws
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfCOn6TlCF0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JysIbQY6SPs
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>>184208738
Was meant to be a reply for >>184189234
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>>184208081
Fuck off Ernest
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I wish CSIII brought this back for friendly matches
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsfGVHAqwMc
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>>184200251
BASIC
WAGE
UNPAID
SALERY
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>>184209140
Please do not compare me to Earnest.
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>>184210070
He's a nice guy though. When he's clean.
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>>184181146
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXvm1mCZjck
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bc5I_gFc0Y
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o my rubber nen
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>>184212441
haha
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post arts with Mueller
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>>184214579
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>>184214579
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>>184216328
That a very nice drawing there, do you mind telling me who made it so i could test their dodging skill from sword strikes talk to them?
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>>184216517
Stop being so tsundere and post pics of you in your wedding dress
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>>184214579
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>>184214579
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>>184217257
hmmmmmm
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>>184214579
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Why is Mueller so fucking weak?
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>>184218782
Please stop slandering the best wife in all of Zemuria.
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>>184218782
MUELLER IS THE STRONGEST MY DEAR
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>>184218958
Problem is he's so underwhelming.
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>>184194947
The Red Constellation attack false flagged was thought to be Erebonia's order and many Crossbellans don't know the truth behind a lot of what happened.
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>>184218782
To compensate for how cool his s-craft is
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>>184219215
>Most people put on a worried/strained look when low on HP
>Mueller just looks like he's losing interest
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>>184219270
He's disappointed in himself and can't look you in the eye.
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>>184219383
That makes me angry.
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>>184219383
What the fuck.
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I dare you watch this trailer and not cringe at the voice acting

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kn-av_FoECQ
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>>184221582
i cringe at every dubs tbqhfam
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>>184221582
40 DAYS
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>>184180974
Ok boss
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>>184221582
Its strange as NISA do some pretty good dubs and then they give us this. I appreciate its not something they're too bothered about but I at least hoped for better.
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>>184206810
She'll get headpats from the headpats guy.
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>>184221582
It's not like Cold Steel's dub is any better.
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>>184224681

at least in DANA will have JP voices, playing the game with that dub would be torture
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someone has gathered most of the Sen III screenshots here http://imgur.com/a/8TUR2
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>too autistic to enjoy Zero because of the translation quality
>too autistic to just wait for an official localisation
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>>184225381
An autist would wait though. You're just impatient and pedantic.
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>>184225635
Isn't correcting my usage of autistic and correcting me to being pedantic itself pedantic.
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>>184225327
Seems like Juna will be the tsukkomi of the group
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>>184225719
Sure but so what? I never said I wasn't and my point about you still stands.
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>>184225928
You got what I meant from the original, just because I'm not using the DSM definition of autistic doesn't mean it needed correcting.
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>>184225856
so much for muh crossbell
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>>184226068
I like correcting people. Once in a while it might have a positive effect.
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>>184225381
Wait for me, anon
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>>184226134
What possible positive effect were you going to have by telling someone their usage of autistic doesn't fit the DSM definition of autism on 4chan where everyone already knows that and uses it anyway?
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>>184226498
You never know.
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>ITT autists
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I want to fuck sharon
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are you guys going to buy cs when it releases on pc or are you going to pirate it?
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>>184227050
Since I pirated it on the Vita, I'm going to buy it properly this time, just like I did with PSP and FC.
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>>184227050
I'm gonna watch an LP of it
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>>184226947
Umm actually you mean pedants.
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>>184227050
Buy it because I'm not poor and I'm happy to support trails.
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>>184227050
Not gonna play it in the first place.
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>>184227173
why?
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>>184227827
There was one guy in the falcom discord who said he's watching a let's play of Zero because he doesn't have the time to play it himself.
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Just finished Ao, that was easily the best game in the series so far and that's with the shitty overlaid translation and not being able to talk to random npcs.

Now I'm worried I'll be disappointed by Steel in 5 days, though it may pick up in 3 from what I'm seeing.
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>>184227050
I already bought TX and preordered Ys VIII so I'll pirate it.
xseed already got plenty of my money anyway.
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>>184228074
here's a higher res one
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>>184225327
Just went back and updated it with the rest of the site images plus some stuff that was on dualshockers. If there's any I'm still missing feel free to post them, though I'd prefer stuff that was actually uploaded and not just lifted from the magazine or PV's.
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>>184226954
Just fuck Ricky already
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>>184227050
I don't know if I like Sen enough to buy it for the second time, but I have reason to pirate in since I've already beat it twice.
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>>184228165
lul none of those games are related to xgreed
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>>184228558
This. Not to mention it's CS1. The combat is such a downgrade from Ao it hurts. At least CS2 has plenty of fun toys to play with.
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>>184227050
Pirated it on the vita, prob pick up a legit copy this time around, even though i'll be playing on my GPDWIN, having the option to play on a proper might be nice... .sorta
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>>184228884
proper desktop*******

they havent talked about all the CS1 dlc for pc have they?
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>>184226097
Can't wait to slap the arrogant shit out of Cedric.

Though we all know it'll be a chev fight followed up by a heartfelt lecture and head pat from Rean instead.
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>>184216917
underrated post
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>>184229002
$40 for the base game
$25-30 for the dlcs
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>>184229715
Source?
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What if I don't want to give it back?
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>>184228825
I wouldn't say that everything was a downgrade. Sen finally made an advantage of people to have multiple lines because you could use multiples of Poison/Seal/Sleep/etc. Not to mention that it finally used variable resistances instead of just vulnerable/immune.
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>>184229827
It doesn't matter. Unless it's retconned they will take it back.
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>>184229842
Isn't the point of multi-line orbments to stop them being good casters
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>>184229892
>inb4 another timeline
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Wow, Towa went and sang the opening song for Trails the 3rd in front of everyone with that slutty outfit?
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Think they're doing a cheeky test lads.
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>>184229919
Multi line orbments were shit because there was no pros to have them and only cons.
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>>184229842
Yeah, but plenty of crafts can already inflict status ailments.
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>>184230041
>haters will use this image to shit on XSEED/Cold Steel
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>>184229919
Well, yes? They're not good casters. But they can finally actually get some use out of being able to stack debuff/ailment quartz.
Anon also forgot to mention you can use multiple tiers of the same stat buff quartz in different lines, i.e. Attack 3 in one line and Attack 2 in another.
This is especially useful for Evade quartz.
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>>184222548
>implying NISA didn't pick up Ys over desperation.
Nisa doesn't give a fuck about Ys. There are far less games to bring over and Nisa wants to bring over as much as possible. Even if it's doing a dick move like cucking XSeed.
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>>184229808
just guessing. if the dlcs were included in the base game they'd be using it as a selling point, which they aren't. and if they're gonna be paid, they're probably gonna be priced around the same as the originals because suckers will buy them anyway
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>>184230414
stay mad, xshill
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>>184230304
Don't forget that high tier spells are pretty viable now too since you can stack Cast 1/Cast 2 and bring down their cast times down to reasonable levels before you start doing Fire Bolt/Luminous Ray spam at the very end.

Action stacking is somewhat useful for slow characters as well since usually Action 3 alone isn't enough to get them to decent speed stats.
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>>184230540
XSeed ain't great either. All the passion but lacking in every other department.
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>>184230682
>Luminous Ray spam
With Mirage increasing Arts AoE in CS1, this shit was just outrageously broken.
Even Machias' literally infinite turns took more effort to make use of.
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>>184230041
Probably review copies.
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>>184230117
Which was the entire point, it forced them into physical roles, Zin doesn't need a good orbment because he's good at melee and has good crafts while Olivier does because his physical attack is weak and his crafts aren't that amazing. Making multi-line orbments better isn't necessarily an improvement.

>>184230304
>But they can finally actually get some use out of being able to stack debuff/ailment quartz
They get plenty of use already out of their other stats and crafts being balanced around being poorer at arts than dedicated casters. Making everyone at the very least a decent caster isn't really an improvement.
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>>184221582
>>184222548
>>184230414
Nah NISA does give a fuck about Ys. But they know dubfags will eat any shitty dub. Not to mention they also know Japanese dubs is what's more important.
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>>184230682
High tier arts are viable in the other games as well, with Renne or Olivier in third you can be constantly popping the very top arts with very little downtime if you build right.
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>>184230891
>Making everyone at the very least a decent caster isn't really an improvement.
Anon, are you certain you understand how CS' orbments work? It's entirely possible to have a character fully outfitted with quartz that is literally unable to cast a single spell because they just plainly don't have spells.
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>>184231272
No, I'm saying changing orbments so multilines are actually good in their own way misses the point of multiline orbments in the first place.
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>>184181146
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxXfJR-6ry0
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>>184231001
I found that most of the time, the best spells were the mid tier ones like Sparkdyne, Blue Impact, Earth Lance and so on. It was only in Zero where I actively spammed high end spells like Thunder Cyclone and Shadow Apocrypha.
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>>184230981
>But they know dubfags will eat any shitty dub.
This. I rarely see dubfags complain about the dub quality even when it's obvious that it's horrible.
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>>184230981
>>184231575
>literally responding to a dubfag complaining about the dub
>dubfags never complain
Hmmm
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>>184231617
>anon says dubfags will eat any shitty dub
>I agree with him because they never complain no matter how horrible it is
hmmm
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>>184231714
>anon replies to a dubfag complaining about the dub
>dubfags never complain about the dub
Are you daft?
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>>184231825
Hence why I said rarely. Dunno why you're getting so riled up.
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>>184230981
Subfags are the same with japanese audio, just look at trails.
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>tfw uncertain whether to just play through Ao's main story I can at least understand since it's voiced and try to get back to the sidequests later on, or spend hours upon hours trying to understand the NPC dialogue with kanjitomo and google translate
It took me, like, half an hour to just go around the department store at the beginning of chapter one.
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>>184231996
Or just stop being an autist, play through the main game, some side quests and move on. Then you come back when it's fully translated to replay it if you want to.
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>>184231996
If your japanese level is good enough then spend that extra time looking up kanji. It's good practice and Ao is worth it.
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>>184231398
No anon, its about give and take. Casters get single/double line augments because they get more EP to cast their spells more often and in games that use sepith count to use a wider variety of spells.

Physical characters with 3/4 lines trade a wide spell pool and ep count to be able to increase their stats and add extra ailments/stat drops to make them do their job better.

Zin/Mueller/Agate/Tita/etc still aren't going to cast even if they can fill out all of their slots because their stat lines don't lend themselves to it anyway.
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>>184232132
fuck you man
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>>184232132
You can't fully enjoy trails unless you are a little autistic.
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>>184232401
There already is give and take in Sky/Zero/Ao with orbments, adding another buff for the sake of making multi-line orbments 'good' is pointless and misses the point of orbment balance in the first place. Saying making multi-line orbments good is an improvement just proves the original poster didn't realise how the orbment system was balanced.
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>>184231996

I'd advise you to be patient and wait, but then again I just beat it with the spreadsheet overlaid and loved it more than all the other games.
Not being able to talk to every single random npc or even important npcs when they're not in sidequests or the main story was infuriating, but at least it's incentive to play it again.
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>>184232657
For someone who was supposed to be balanced around having a good craft set, Zin was pretty mediocre as a character outside of the bugged Thunder God Kick abuse in SC. They got Tita/Agate right and Mueller had that double attack in chains gimmick but Zin was really underwhelming.
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>>184233582
Zin was good without bugged thunder god kick, his self-buff was great and he could tank ridiculous amounts of damage, he just wasn't as great as some of the other physical characters.
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Updated the Ao guide on pastebin again, this time finally got off my lazy ass and added all the quests and DP guide stuff. Didn't go into major detail aside from when extra DP is involved, since the spreadsheet probably details how to beat most of them anyways.

https://pastebin.com/HbsB3G1m
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>>184233741
I want to teach KeA about every facet of Life
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>>184233741
>can't romance KeA
What;'s the fucking point?
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>>184233741
I used guides for the Sky Evo games, but I think I'll just chill with the Crossbell games and play blindly.

Is there a Zero one?
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>>184233728
Zin's ability to soak up hits would have been way more useful if Sky didn't devolve to Earth Wall/Gaia Shield/Grail Sphere spam or on the difficulties where being a good tank was relevant, he didn't die in about 1 more hit compared to the other physical characters.
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>>184234643
It's because she's technically an old hag
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>>184234838
I know already and that makes it even hotter.
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>>184234682
My Zero guides links to Ao, and the Ao one links to Zero.

I didn't add information on the Evo quests though, but if you're interested you can check them out here:

Zero wiki:
http://wikinavi.net/zero_psp/index.php

Ao Wiki:
https://www47.atwiki.jp/ao_psp/
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>>184234959
Oh, I'm retarded, didn't even see the first line. Thanks.
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How badly would the Liberl cast dote on adorable little KeA?
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>Tajik is NOT complaining about the congress for the first time in forever
Woah. Busting the cult really did wonders for this shithole.
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>>184235430
The entire world couldn't help but dote on her.
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>>184235453
I think it's a Diet actually. Pretty sure Lloyd in CS II mentions something about Diet members. Crossbell government is weird
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>>184235694
I bet even some members of Ouroboros would.
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It's such a shame Rebecca doesn't have a portrait, she's probably a cutie.
That being said, this voice sounds familiar. That's not Duvalie, is it?
>>184236107
I'm not that good at differentiating between diets, parlaments, congresses, dumas and all that stuff.
Calvard's the one with a congress, right?
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>>184233741
Actually i'll probably add the extra Evo stuff on Zero and Ao's guides since we have people playing the Evo versions, also general tips at the start, for silly stuff like best sepith farming spot, and so on.
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>>184235453
The mafia and some corrupt politicians are gone too so obviously people feel safer. And it did wonders to SSS's reputation. It was almost weird talking to everyone and never being bullied/looked down on.
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>>184236270
The bullying was mostly gone after chapter 2 honestly.
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>>184236253
I still don't get how you can cook various food but the simplest sandwich is impossible.
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>>184236386
>>184236270
>bullying
lul
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>>184236253
I wish I was Lloyd.
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>>184225327
That blonde guy looks like Takahata Shio
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>>184237786
That's probably Jusis i think.
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>>184221582
This trailer got some big spoilers, I'd advise not watching this.

But yeah, not really liking Dana's English VA. It feels like every word is forced, like she's about to run out of breath constantly or something. I liked Laxia's voice from the previous trailer though.
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>>184238165
Its the same woman that did Alisha in Tales of Zestiria which does not bode well.
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>>184238165
Why does it even matter when you'll be playing it with japanese audios anyway?
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>>184238332
Unless the entire thing is like that trailer I'll play in English.
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>>184238315
>Its the same woman that did Alisha in Tales of Zestiria which does not bode well.
So who is gonna cuck Laxia? Ricotta or Dana?
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>>184230981
>Nah NISA does give a fuck about Ys.

They fucking showed Ys Strategy and Ys V PS2 on Kondo's panel, Anon
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>>184238469
If its going to follow Zestiria it'll be a guy and god-awful writing
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>>184238332
I already played the Vita and PS4 versions in Japanese anyway, but since they are actually doing a dub, might as well do a good job on it. And yes, not everyone likes to play with JP VA.
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>>184238575
Stop shilling xseed
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>>184238845
Ys Seven's translation was NISA tier, it just missed some bugs introduced in the localisation. I'm sure Ys VIII would have a much better translation with XSEED, as long as Varion worked on it and stopped Wyrdwad's shitty memes.
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>>184201420
I hope that happens for you.

>>184239005
Tom's improved. His script for Brandish: The Dark Revenant avoids memes entirely while keeping whatever humor and subtlety the original has. And now he's edited Ys Seven PC presumably to cut down on his willful distortions in that game.
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>>184238591
I meant about Rose replacing Alisha.
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>>184239429
Rose doesn't fare much better than Alisha when it comes to Sorey either.
Remembering all this stuff about Zestiria hurts, why did it have to be so bad.
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>>184239563
>mfw I actually enjoyed Zestiria
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>>184239630
The only good parts were the skits and Edna, mostly Edna, if it was more Edna, Lailah, Dezel and Zaveid and less Sorey, Rose, Alisha and Mikleo it could have been good.

The DLC was flat out insulting though
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>>184239937
Dezel was terrible and Lailah isn't that better either to be honest. Edna and Mikleo were the best.
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>>184239937
Edna was so good man. Wish someone used her model to make her available in others games. Only Mikleo has mods somehow. Personally I didn't like Lailah too much but I kinda liked Mikleo because of the way he interacted with Edna especially when she bullied him to death.
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Is falcom gay
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>>184239563
>>184239429
>>184240220
>>184239937
Get your own fucking thread, dipshits.
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>>184240389
I wish.
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>>184240350
Mikleo was only good in the skits, although that might be heavily related to how much Rose, Sorey and Alisha dragged everyone down and how the more exposed to the main plot points a character was the worse they got.
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>>184239630
Is there any game where smug loli isn't instantly the best girl?
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>>184240870
Lolis are best girls in all games. I can't wait to nude mod Ricotta!!!
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Alright, added general tips, and small info on the Evo/Vita only quests for Ao. I'll add the ones in Zero later.
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How are you supposed to beat Sigmund Orlando? I know that you're supposed to just survive but it seems to be possible. For contrast I had 0 problems beating Arios at the end of chapter 4.
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>>184241805
You mean at the start of chapter 4? If so, you just need to DPS him fast as fuck. The time limit is how much time you have to get max DP (+5), and you get varying numbers if the timer runs out with him still alive but with lower HP, and if you lose the story still moves forward but you win no extra DP.
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>>184241048
I want to eat Ricotta's thighs and then share the rest of her with /fg/!
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>>184243190
>loli vore
Nice. I want to eat her chest.
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>>184243343
you must not be very hungry
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>>184243190
>>184243343
Also imagine this scene when we nude mod her...
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>>184243451
I LOVE FLAT CHESTS.
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>>184236243
Believe so!
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If someone ever does one of these for CS 3, is going to be gigantic.
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>>184245332
>no Seig
Blasphemy.
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>>184243794
Me too.
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>>184192979
Cassius was just a good general in the war using advanced new technology.
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>>184247720
Oh get off it, everyone sucks Cassius' cock because of how strong and capable he is except for Estelle.
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>>184248206
>a great general being praised for his actions in winning a war is now comparable to super power level creep immortal beings
Hmmm
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>>184248410
>Just some great general
Replay Sky instead of going off your memory anon. Cassius is practically a living legend at this point.
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>>184248578
Just like many great generals throughout history, still incomparable to a super power level woman implied to be immortal. Unless of course Dracula is now at the same level of realism as Alexander the Great. This is mainly about his wartime reputation, he is very powerful otherwise but still believably.
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>>184248410
Cassius was always a gary stu. CS ridiculous levels just look worse cause the games itself are so terribly mediocre.
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>>184248410
Anon, Ouroboros took their sweet freaking time to get him out of their way for the gospel plan, just because of how much of a threat he was, and after helping sort out the Erobonia Bracer guild attacks, he got an increased rank in threat level, which is basically the highest one possible.
Maybe he's not busting planets left and right, but his deduction, instincts, fight prowess and other such qualities make him extremely dangerous, and Weissman was not pushover either, and he wasn't alone.
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>>184248747
Ragnard says hi.
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>>184247720
He was a colonel.
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>>184248747
Cassius fought Ragnard to a stand still when he was younger and the entire point of the Jester attacks in Erebonia was to get Cassius out of the way because otherwise the entirety of FC/SC wouldn't happen.
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>>184248760
I'm referring to his wartime prowess and reputation and even then he's a lot more grounded.

>>184248869
Again, I'm primarily referring to his wartime actions and reputations (which if you look all the way back is the part I was referring to) and even then someone who's great at strategic and tactical thinking is a lot more believable and grounded than some of the power level things in Sen and Ao.
You don't even seem to be disagreeing with me either, you're saying he's a dedicated intelligent person and thats how he got his reputation rather than having superpowers.

>>184249040
Doesn't even touch my point
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Casual Estelle!
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Worth mentioning that ZCF had to invent and produce military airships/Orbalships good enough to execute the plan Cassius had in mind, and that was a huge risk for Russell and the rest of Zeiss. They shoulder a lot of credit for saving the country as well.

Cassius wasn't able to save his wife and hometown, and the script's tone in SC's intro (before Prologue) works against him when he's shooting down Estelle for trying to find Joshua and confront the Society. He's not perfect, even if he is ridiculously skilled and strategic.
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>>184249528
More like casual BIMBO
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>>184249182
It's the opposite though. If someone's established as immortal or has giant robots/artifacts and whatnot it's believable they can do crazy shit. Whereas it's far more ridiculous if a human with a sword or worse a staff fights a dragon, always saves you in a pinch, is the highest ranked threat and everyone sucks his cock.
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>>184249560
Exactly, he has a reputation for his actions because he ended up the face but his achievements in the war were still grounded and reliant on others so "Who was a fucking legend that saved the entire country from getting fucked with his superior knowledge" isn't true.
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>>184249182
How does Cassius fighting a legendary dragon that couldn't be stopped by modern technology to to stand still by himself not reek of power level bullshit?

Remember that Loewe and Weissman worked together to deal with Ragnard and it took Arseille, several other ships and then the party going in and breaking the gospel just to get Ragnard to calm down.

>>184249560
Its not that Cassius is perfect and infallible because no one in the series is, no matter how people would try to claim. But you're seriously downplaying Cassius if you're going to pretend that he's just some "skilled general" when he's presented as way more than that across the entire sky trilogy.
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>>184249560
>implying the russels care about such risks when it comes to tinkering with machines
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>>184249743
You know Estelle and co fight a dragon too right? He doesn't kill it either and its never explicitly stated that he actually defeated it.

>>184249793
Ourobous did more to the dragon than Cassius did and then when it shrugged off the Liberlian army assault it was under the effect of the Gospel which fucked with its power.

>when he's presented as way more than that
Most of that is reputation, arriving at the right time and having a believable level of strategic prowess.
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>>184249182
Well yeah, he's not insane power wise like say Arianrhod, but he's still pretty damn strong. His forte is his instincts and intellect like i said, but he's no pushover at all, he fought a freaking dragon which took several ships can can kill most people with their gunfire just to take the dragon down like the anon said, and he nonchalantly wrecked a Reverie on his own if you get the lowest possible BP in Sky FC, and stands instead of kneeling when beaten in the 3rd, when even Arianrhod knelled at first once beaten.
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>>184250082
By that logic Llloyd and co fight Aranrhod too.
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>>184250082
>Estelle and co fight a dragon too
Yeah they fought a dragon that was weakened after several rounds of combat with barely any time to rest and they struggled like hell. It also took Agate a risk that would kill himself if he failed to break the Gospel and stop the fight.
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>>184249793
I didn't deny his duel with Ragnard and outplaying an Ouroboros plan, though.

>>184249895
Wasting time on failed prototypes and experiments would have screwed over the garrison at Grancel after a while, and Russell knew that. The pressure then was much higher than in FC when he worked on the Gospel Orbment; you see in SC just how much more focused he and his team are when making the Zero-Field Generators. Erika's more of a loony, but even she had that real talk with Tita about becoming a target if she decided to work on Orbal Gear.
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>>184250125
I don't understand why you're trying to argue with me. I never said he was weak, just not Arianrhod level and my original point was that his military achievements were believable and not him singlehandedly saving liberl as the original claim was.

>he fought a freaking dragon which took several ships can can kill most people with their gunfire just to take the dragon
The dragon was Gospel enhanced and we don't know if he actually defeated Ragnard outright or simply put up a good enough fight that Ragnard capitulated.

>and he nonchalantly wrecked a Reverie on his own if you get the lowest possible BP in Sky FC
After the party had already spent a fair bit of time fighting it, lowest BP only skips one stage.

>>184250202
What?
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>>184250462
>Gospel Enhanced
The entire point of the Gospel was to put Ragnard in a state where he could be controlled. It doesn't enhance his combat abilities at all.
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>>184250791
Controlling him was one part but every other thing the Gospel was used in gained large amounts of power, it makes sense that it would do the same to Ragnard as well as put him in a state that could be controlled.
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The kids in zero are cute
>i am so hungry...
>isn't there anything on the ground?
>mfw
Also is that guy with green hair called Lazy or Wazy? don't want to look on the wiki because spoilers
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>>184251052
Wazy
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>>184251052
Crosbell kids are great but downtown especially is a wild ride.
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>>184251052
There's also the saint tier kid in the back alley in downtown, who is always cleaning it up and loves it.
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>>184250980
>Hologram projector
>Earthquake trigger
>The memory thing which was something that was normal going in Liber Ark and the entirety of 3rd

The main power source for the tank thing in Chapter 3 was the Arseille's engine and they used the Gospel to force the shutdown phenomenon.

The Gospels did do ridiculous things but they were never really power enhancing drugs like the Gnosis.
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>ywn lick Elies pantyhose-clad feet after a long day
why live lads?
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>>184251624
to feel Tio's thighs
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>>184251564
It enhanced the power of all of those things though thanks to tapping into the Liber Ark, the hologram and earthquakes were flat out powerboosted. You're right that the tank didn't take power from it but that wasn't the societies intention and in the end it was defeated by Estelle and friends without orbments.

I'd never put two and two together about the gospel and the Liber Arks memory simulations, it makes that whole chapter a lot more interesting.
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>>184251907
But you'll never do that either and I would rather put my head between those thighs than just feel them anyway.
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>>184251965
Actually they could use orbments during the fight remember? Kevin busted the thing with the time stop artifact before they took down the tank.
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>>184252171
Whoops, doesn't really change that the tank wasn't intended to be boosted by the Gospel though.
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how does ouroboros beat osborne
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>>184252339
By getting every media outlet in the continent to publish articles about how dumb and stupid trains are.
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Guys, I just had a revelation about who Red Moon Rose is while I was at the bathroom taking a shit.

Huh, looks like the kiseki wikia actually picked up on it. Sasuga.

How the fuck did I not see the connection till now.
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>>184252339
Duh. They stop holding back.
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>>184252607
Wouldn't the red eyed loli baba the most likely candidate to be Rose? Is Rosine the same size?
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>>184252607
holy fuck you are right
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>>184252339

By exposing his double dealing and that he's trying to make use of one of their evil plans (and thus invited them to go full out against Erebonia) to the public, killing his popularity with the people
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>>184252607
Oh no fucking way, yeah that totally makes sense
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>>184253124
Implying he isn't going to rat on them out on all of their shit dealings too, and make them even more publicly known compared to Ao, and how they set up 9/11 in Crossbell, and their general disregard for public safety.
Hell, the whole plan they have set up may not even be evil in itself, only the methods employed to reach it, so it'd be the same as taking their bullshit plan into a more "rational" direction, and taking into consideration the citizens safety. Would it be bullshit? Sure, but he'd say it.
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What if ouroboros just get a big gun and point it at Osbourne when he's not expecting it and then shoot it and kill him so they can't be outsnuck by him anymore
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>>184253789
He already expected to get sniped by C and survived that shit. The same idea is not going to work again on the guy who has been predicting most of the shit in the entire series so far.
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>>184253050
Red Moon Rose could change appearances because True Ancestor. She first appeared in Al's life as a kid who was playing with him.
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>>184253930
I don't mean sniping, I mean like a really, really big gun, like the kinds you get in spaceships, I'm sure theres some ancient Zemurian gun like that lying around somewhere.
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>>184253685
I personally think his end goal is to expose both Ouroboros and the Dominions to the public because of the powers they can have.

Sure they might have the means to kill him, but he probably wants to have the last laugh by exposing them and their plans.

>>184253050
Oh and forgot to mention, whoever the author of Red Moon Rose was (probably Al) probably just decided to change a few things just like Micht changing a few details of Carnelia (for one, Micht, as Matthias, was supposed to be dead in the story and two, Carnelia ends up dead whereas Ein is obviously alive).
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>>184254243
Next thing we know all the fucking literature was a psy-op by the church
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>>184254579
In the prologue for third its flat out stated that Carnelia is one.
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>>184254579
Well there's surely a bunch of books in that world, so what we're reading is all relevant and happened for real most likely, and some details were changed here and there to make it more dramatic or hide what actually happened.
I wonder if we'll ever see Gleen the back alley doctor.
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>>184254880
>and some details were changed here and there to make it more dramatic or hide what actually happened.
In third its mentioned that Carnelia is actually toned down compared to the actual events.
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>>184255079
To be fair, Kevin did say she'd the type of woman who can get shot in the head and then ask for a cigarette.
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>>184255510
I believe it, if she gets blown up in Carnelia and is still fine afterwards and what happened in reality was worse, Kevin's probably understating things.
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>>184253685

Everybody knows that Oroborous is a shady group of terrorists and criminals though. That's no big revealation. Osborne though, is a champion of the people, or at least that's how he sells himself and how he gets the Imperial family and military to follow his whims.

Besides Oroborous doesn't need to make themselve look good, they just need to make Osborne look worse than Olivert's faction and he'll be out of Erebonia and on his own, making him a far easier target than trying to take him with the Erebonian army and Rean's group protecting him.
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Wake up.
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>>184258660
'no'
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>>184258660
But i want to relax.
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>>184258660
>>184258910
I want to wake up to Juna's junas
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>>184253996
Ouroboros has one.
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What's the reason why Lloyd is the only one who can hear KeA again?
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>>184259646
>mech
Can a man not just have one game where an evil secret society manage to recover an ancient spaceship gun and use it to destroy their enemies, is that too much to ask for?
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>>184259737
Because he's the protagonist
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>>184259737
The game never makes that clear i think. It's explained in a data book about Crossbell. Aside from what Door to D means, nobody translated the other segments yet.
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>>184260018
Sasuga Falcom.

Not putting your plot points in your own game instead of it being at the manual.

And some people wonder why there are a few people shipping Rean and Crow together.
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How does it feel to know that Walter the Direwolf was into femdom with Kilika?
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>>184260462
Bit jealous if I'm being honest
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>>184260462
Indifferent. Man can do what he wants
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>>184260323
>falcom
I feel that's pretty normal for these kind of japanese things in general. You have your anime/game but you also need the guidebook/artbook, 3 manga and spinoffs, 5 drama cds and assorted interviews/extras for the full story.
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>>184260748
It used to be a thing in the west until it became the norm to cram every game with collectible journals, lorebooks, audiologs and anything else to explain everything I'm glad they did
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>>184260323
Well to be fair, the reason is probably something simple, like she was attached to Lloyd the most out of all of them, thus his connection to her was far stronger, allowing him to hear her voice prior to finding her.
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>>184262305
ctrl-s to spoiler tag
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>>184262305
>mimi won't let me delete this

I fucking HATE this shit, fuck phones man
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What are the chances that Millium is Rean's daughter with Claire from the future?
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>>184263002
Moderate
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Any clues as to who Rean's biological mother is?
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>>184263290
Sandlot
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>>184263290
Estelle
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>>184262346
>>184262719
What was it?
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>>184263290

I'm gonna assume probably nobody of importance, and someone long dead.
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>>184263290
Sandlot is my guess too
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>>184263290
An ogre, literally.
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>>184263576
>>184264561
But that's Laura's mother
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>>184264951
yes and...?
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>>184264951
She's everyone's mom. Haven't you noticed how many CS characters are missing moms?
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>>184263290
Probably someone we haven't met yet. It probably is a nice lady since Osborne used to be a stand up guy from what we've seen.

Maybe a relative of the royal family? Which would explain why Rean is linked to Dreichels so much.
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Who is the second edgiest guy in the series after Kevin?
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>>184266246
Joachim, considering what he wrote in the terminals
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And when you find McBurn, you grab him by the ear. You say I am Duvalie The Swift, You will board my ship sail to Erebonia, and fight your alternate self Rean Schwarzer.
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>>184266635
Get bullied nerd.
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>>184266635
What the fuck is with this McBurn being Rean theory?
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>>184266635
I'm sorry what did you say?
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>>184266859
It's just fact.
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oh shit
>she is living with an old man
of course
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>>184267184
What did you expect?
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>Grandcross.
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>>184267483
I'd cross her grands if you catch my drift.
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where the hell is this? I can't find the prompt for the picture in the village, just for the flower field
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>>184268780
Don't use bus, just walk.
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>>184268780
I think they are talking about the place you got the key to kill some monsters in at the beginning of chapter 2. The place on the path outside the village.
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>>184268780
It's behind a wooden gate along the road.
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>>184268969
>>184269154
>>184269175

found it, thanks guys
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>>184268780
Which guide is that one?
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>>184269301

https://www.gamefaqs.com/vita/644812-eiyuu-densetsu-zero-no-kiseki-evolution/faqs/66600
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>>184269482
Does the Evo version have some additional side quests? I ran across one in this guide but could not get the quest to start. I just assumed it was exclusive content.
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>>184269887
It does yes
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>>184269887

dunno, I'm playing the regular version, but I believe it does have exta quests as it mentions one about an oversleeping doctor in ch2 that didn't appear for me
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>>184270120
Ok cool just wanted to make sure I wasn't doing something really fucking stupid to miss a quest.

>>184270158
Yeah that was the one for me, I talked to everyone in the hospital but was confused as to why I couldn't start it.
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>>184269887
I added them in my pastebin guide for Zero and Ao now, since there's people playing the Evo versions now in case they want to use it.

I think Zero has like 5 extra quests, and Ao has 5-6.

Zero's seem to be:
>Cooking competition between Oscar and Benett
>Looking for some sleeping doctor
>Searching for a missing person in the last day of the festival
>Teaching some clerks about customer service
>A second quest about teaching the children in Sunday school where Lloyd, Randy, Elie and Tio all take turns teaching

Ao's i think it was:
>Catching some dude doing a fraudulent business
>Assisting the Royal Liberl guards with information about Crossbell i'm guessing they were looking for Kloe or something?
>Looking for a missing item at Sonya's request on Knox forest
>Choosing one of your members to sing a song for propaganda about the west street bakery
>Continuation of the "part time at the theme park"
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I heard you anons like vampires and adventurers
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>>184273160
Not particularly no.
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Hey no, you're not allowed to die, i mean look at these lolis.
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>>184275535
the octopus doesn't look happy
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>>184275535
Which one would you hold hands with very hard?
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>>184276237
both of course, at the same time.
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>>184275535
Tio has cute feet!
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What is Celine's endgame?
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The strong are saying nothing until they see.

Rean, do you know what the first rule of war is?

It’s what every old soldier knows by heart.

You survive.

I am certain that you feel that war is an atrocity, but one dictated by human desires and one that is quelled on command by humans. This is not entirely inaccurate in face of the facts you have confronted as a soldier on the frontlines.

But as a commander of men, passing from squad to regiment to army, I know that the power of a general is entirely contradictory. We have the power to unleash death and destruction but not the power to prevent it, and we are subordinate to the men who are the power to prevent war.

War is a constantly mutating fiend. The leaders who believe that they can really control it are fools who delude themselves. Small conflicts become all-encompassing wars with consequences that few can anticipate. Thusly, the winning move is end up not fighting any war.

And ultimately, every leader confronts a choice in this unpredictable and dangerous game: Deterrence through force of arms or deterrence through a show of arms. Either choice involves sacrifices of men, material and mira, although building up the army and not using it has backfired on many a politico in times past. No matter the choice, deterrence succeeds when everyone stops their aspirations for war.

And the game requires the players to remain calm and patient and not indecisive in the face of total uncertainty.

As a soldier, you think of war as a contest where man fights man, organization fights organization, nation assails nation. The truth is not so symmetrical – war is essentially man versus war itself.

Remember this Rean, as 1206 approaches us and the next chapter of our Imperial conflict opens up. In a world where loyalties are uncertain and patriotism is rampart, who is the nationless Grandmaster that fuels the fires beneath?
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So you know how Randy nicknames everyone? What will he nickname Towa?
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>>184277630
Petitowa
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I fear Mireille may end her life for this.
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>>184278626
How can she be so casual when there's Crossbell to liberate?
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>>184278787
It's not like Crossbell is going to blow up if she's not sperging out about it all the time. right?
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Lloyd is such a slut
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>>184277160

That's really deep and all dad, but there's this girl I'm teaching that I really want to headpat, and she's from Crossbell so I think we're gonna have to give that back to her.

Also that Vander kid is really really pissed you took away his job of guarding the prince.
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>>184279530
What if the 3rd Anguis decides to annex Crossbell into the Greater Zemuria Union?
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>>184279530

That's what they said about Gurellia Fortress.
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>>184279551
Elie's really jealous about her property.
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>>184280009

she sure is
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>>184279618
Ah, young Crawford! Such wonderful youth in her.

Does she believe that telling the Republic to give back her country will work once the Empire leaves Crossbell behind?

She hasn't even thought that far ahead! She takes after Sergeant Major Seeker indeed, who thinks that will and will alone will make Crossbell safe and independent for the first time in its history, with secure borders and a calm citizenry.

She thinks to control the continental spanning war and conspiracies of our age so easily! Indeed, she shall aim high in life.

And Rean, you should tell little Kurt that he has no hope of continuing the Vander line if he doesn't remember to exercise his cheek muscles.
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How come the only schoool in Liberl is Jenis? Doesn't that make like 99% of the country uneducated peasants?
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>>184281138
In Zero and Ao, you get to see that churches provide people with education on Sunday schools it seems, they also have more difficult classes for older people. I'm guessing Jenis is for if you want to specialize yourself.
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>>184281138
They were literally in the middle ages like 50 years ago.
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>>184280821

Hey sorry to bother you Chancellor, but the people of the capital are once again requesting you stop using the Azure Knight as a lawn ornament. It's kind of freaking them out.

Also we have an request to send a a pink Soldat with giant gun tonfa's to Reeves from a Mr....Royd Dannings?
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>>184281913
Their request has been duly noted and filed.

And do tell young Bannings that his dubious impression of a Easterner's spelling will not endear him to the Empire. We are not racists.
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>>184282585
Who's Bannings? It clearly says "Dannings" in there.

On a real note, I wonder if Lloyd will show up at some point in the game and later on when both the Crossbell party members meet up with the Erebonia party members, everyone will comment on how similar Rean and Lloyd are, down to basically having the girls having a downtime at Ymir's hotsprings only for Rean and Lloyd to have a full view of them in their towels.

Nah, the game's probably too dark now for that.
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>>184283189
Lloyd is not really that close to Rean in terms of how they act honestly. But yeah, he'll probably show up at some point, Elie too i'm hoping.
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>>184266921

>Everyone talks about how cute Wazy is but no one talks about how McBurn is premimum manpussy

Seriously. He's cute. [Spoiler]And he's a flamer[/spoiler]
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>>184283570
Ctrl + S anon.
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ohboyherewego
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What was the point of this door?
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>>184284897
I don't know you tell me.

I think it may have just been in order to introduce that concept, since Shizuku finds a stone in a hidden quest that is similar in description to the happiness stone, and i think it's in Cold steel too. It's not really clear what the hell it is though, but since it was a moon door, surely it's going to be something meaningful later on.
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>>184254579
Carnelia is literally Church propaganda
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>>184284897
To show us that Dragons are asexual
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>>184286115
The little dragon knew about the current events, the Aureole being gone, and the Glorious showing up, and the description on the arena says he looks similar to Ragnard. Plus she couldn't have actually been gone for a whole day, and there's no giant bolders on that road she was at, so it was most likely a dream,
probably induced by Ragnard. The problem is it's purpose.
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>>184283189
I'm pretty sure he will.
I doubt falcom went through the hassle of making his model and crafts just for a cameo, considering how cheap falcom is when it comes to assets.
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>>184283189

I wouldn't count on more than a cameo from Lloyd, if he shows at all.

They already have a fuck ton of characters, and there's only two each from Zero and Sky respectively, which is probably good enough balance.
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>>184250125
>he nonchalantly wrecked a Reverie on his own

After your group and Richard beat on it.

You can almost solo the ver 2 as well. It isn't that hard.
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we did it, boys.

Ao no Kiseki main scenario in complete english.

suck it JOPs
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>>184259742
They made 99% of the shit that they have.
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>>184290725
What the hell does that even imply? @Lloyd
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>>184290725
Where do I get it
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This cutie is going to be playable right?
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>Aurelia is with returning Class VII when they confront Arianrhod
Fun fun fun
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>>184292834

They probably need all the help they can get.

Especially if she has a Divine Knight
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>>184292673
http://gbatemp.net/threads/wip-ao-no-kiseki-english-patch.476713/page-7#post-7475353
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>>184292787

I mean. She's not holding a weapon in her art.

But fuck, there's already like 30 playable characters. Is one more really going to matter at this point?

Especially since unlike all the other returning CS characters she actually works as Thor's Reeve and doesn't have anything else she should be doing.
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>>184293679
Does this patch also have all the menus and items translated?
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Does the item drop rate from Fortune stack in 3rd? Like if I have Fortune on one character and Divine Eye on another?
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>>184251404
Seriously, how does something this pure and clean-hearted manage to come from downtown?
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>>184283189
>Rean and Lloyd to have a full view of them in their towels.
>based Kevin didn't have to go through this shitty harem trope
Absolutely haram.

Does Joshua's encounter with Estelle count?
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what the fuck
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>>184297064
Fortune only applies if the person with it equipped gets the kill. They will stack if you equip both quartz on the same person though, they also stack with Josette support. With just Josette support and Fortune the drop rate is extremely high.

I did a ton of drop farming and my advice is to save scum with S-Crafts. Have someone with the quartz equipped kill a group, reload if you don't get the desired drops rinse and repeat.
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Osborne roleplayer, I love you so much, please never stop.
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>>184298790
Nice, thanks.
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>>184290725
>it's only a partial

Oooh, so close. I'll wait for the full.
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>>184298605
Hes a good boy.
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>>184293727
She can fight with bare hands
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>>184299678
its got everything but npc dialogue, but yeah. getting there.
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>>184300819
Can you romance Towa in TX?
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>>184301568
You can't even romance anyone in TX.
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>>184301568
>romancing anyone in TX aside from maybe Shio and his bike
No.
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Would Rean go to jail if he dated one of his students?
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>>184302878

To be fair, she's actually Towa's student. Not Rean's.
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I hope they make young Toval's adventure into a spin-off game.
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>>184229238
Why?

I prefer him to pilot Tessa Rosa to screw around with Rean.
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>>184302878
Wait, the CP can go over 200 now?
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How long is zero? 19 hours and barely finished chapter 1, no way i can finish this before CS comes out on pc.
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>>184303581
It's either placeholder or the new arts called acid rage.
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>>184290725
Does anyone have a list of what the Master Quartz in Ao too? Not knowing what their special effects are sucks, besides the obvious ones like STR boost at the start of combat for Force.
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>>184303651
Depends on how fast you go, I got to the epilogue with 44hrs following a guide.
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>>184302878
As a national hero he could probably get away with worse things than that.
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>>184303682
I think the gamefaqs walktrough has the list, or you can use the menu patch.
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I'm gonna need you to hand over Crossbell, ok?
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>>184305209

Look. Juna...can I call you Juna?

Why do you even want it back? It was kind of a craphole with mobsters, corrupt cops and the SSS you liked so much were mocked by everyone in the police force.

At least here you get to be part of the proud mighty Erebonian Empire. I mean, you even get your own robot. You wouldn't get that if Crossbell wasn't invaded.

Just let good old instructor Rean headpat you, and listen to his daddy overlord in how to best take over the wor...I mean....make Erebonia great.
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Me on the right
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>>184305639
Me on the left, so stop squandering our Septian budget, Ries.
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>>184303651
It took me 75 hours personally.
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>>184305818
Shut up Kevin
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This patch is worse than the Zero translation but I can at least play Ao in fullscreen now without needing to cross-reference the spreadsheet everytime.
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>>184308846
>2 men to 9 women
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>>184309010
And Randy is still best girl.
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>>184309010
>2 men

But Sally is there too.
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>>184308846
holy crossbells how big is his harem?
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>>184310376
Less than you think since he got little-brother-zoned.
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Grace is pretty hot, you know.
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>>184310376
Lloyd and Randy are pretty much Bartz tier harem's.

>>184310795
My nigga
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>>184283407
>Elie too i'm hoping.
>Elie's MacDowell's in 3D
Make i happen Falcom
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Which party members should I take to Impregnable Fortress to get the best dialog? (3rd)
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>>184313329
There's nothing particularly interesting honestly. Renne's dialogue with Cassius is pretty good.
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>>184315223
Renne's dialogue with most people is pretty good honestly. She's either being sassy or actually mentions something interesting.
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>>184315286
Yeah pretty much never left my party after I got her.
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>>184293679
Seems like it's not perfect, and a few lines are still missing through certain convos. Also it's with the voiced patch, so no shinies for you, although that's not that much of a problem i guess.
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>>184315605
They are probably missing because as with every trails there's lots of variations so if you don't do it exactly the way that guy did you'll get different lines.
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>>184290725
Can I use my save from the voice patched game? I sure as hell won't be replaying the fucking prologue again,a
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>>184316887
Pretty sure it should be no problem.
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>still no new trailer
falcom pls
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>ywn cheat on Alisa
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>>184320294
>Alisa is a cuck
that explains everything
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>>184320294
Lies and slander.
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Masquerade of Lies > Get Over the Barrier > Glint of Cold Steel > Determination of Fight > Strepitoso Fight > Sophisticated Fight > Fate of the Fairies > Seize the Truth > Heated Mind
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>>184324681
>Strepitoso Fight above anything
Opinion discarded
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>>184324681
>sophisticated fight
>over fate of the fairies
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>>184324905
Fate of the Fairies wore itself out real bad in SC's endgame.
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>>184324681
You're including final dungeon battle themes, or alternative ones for later dungeons, but you didn't even include Zero's or Ao's.

Zero:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkL5oCAG52o&index=45&list=PLzFTGYa_evXiUoQ4-sWk4-2E2XUbcRLuc

Ao:
https://youtu.be/yTEA1HU7Wuc

>Seize the truth that low
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LL9nDxeO0qE

What happened?
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What's the track that plays when the Orchis tower gets attacked in Ao chapter 2?
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>>184325327
Put Formidable Enemy under Glint of Cold Steel and Conflicting Passions above Sophisticated Fight.
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Did FC even have a proper boss theme? The only major fight theme that I remembered was Silver Will.
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>>184324681
>Seize the Truth and Heated Mind this low
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What's the single most overrated battle theme in Kiseki?
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>>184325535
To be Continued I think?

going off memory here
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>>184326209
Fateful Confrontation
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>>184326209
Silver Will, obviously.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RpKzKLyyGk
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>>184326223
Yes that's the one, thanks!
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>>184324681
Seize the Truth > Heated Mind > Strepitoso Fight > Get Over the Barrier > Sophisticated Fight > Glint of Cold Steel > Determination of Fight.
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>>184308846

Cecil does things to my poor, virgin, shota dick
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>>184326663
Heated Mind is pretty underrated here.
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>>184326986
I really don't know why, when it first played I nearly came, it fit so perfectly with the general feel of Rean being all on his own (with Celine) and going through the Eisengard mountains.
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>>184319019
Why is Ries so adorable
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>>184327940
To fool you into feeding her.
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Even if Driven to the Wall > Stand Up Battle Formation Again > Feeling Danger Nearby > Unexpected Emergency > Pinch! > Close to the Brink > Impatient
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Ye have besquirted this thread!

Stop being Trails Only Plebs and play some other Falcom games, faggots.
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>>184328002
I'd feed Ries if I didn't have to pay for the food
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I like how McBurn is literally Cold Steel The Hedgehog in human form
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>>184330475
I have played others, there's just not that much to talk about since their plots are fairly simple. I do need to get started on the YS series though.
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>>184330838
He's far too chill for that i think. Only when he goes full "ALL OF MEME" mode does he resemble someone edgy, otherwise he's more of a stoic non caring person.
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>>184328002
Her salary must be pretty good if she can afford to feed herself like that so she doesn't need me.
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>>184325365
I actually like it
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After watching Gaius' bond scene, I'm now sure his bird is the Ragnard/Zeit of Erebonia.
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>>184330475
Maybe if there were others around here playing through Brandish games, or even old Xanadu, I'd bring them up more. There's not as much Ys talk either, but most of us are waiting for VIII or a Seven replay. And no one seems to play Xanadu Next here or is excited for Zwei II finally coming out.

>>184330356
Impatient really is a sore spot on the Sen II OST. I'd put Close to the Brink much higher because of how they used it in Moon Door 1.
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>>184333132
I unironically like Xanadu Next, there is just not much to discuss about it because it's plot is small and self contained and it's just a decent dungeon crawling action rpg.

Good music though, especially the final boss theme.
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>>184333525
Did you try the Netherworld dungeon? I wasn't sure if I'd like that at first because it's randomly-generated, but combat gets fierce down there in ways different from later parts of Strangerock. For a bonus add-on included with a gamepad controls/bugfix patch, it's very nice.
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>>184333797
I haven't actually, sounds like I will have to get around to it at some point though.

I'm just off a binge of the Ys games currently on PC and playing my way through the Trails series for the first time (Only Sky, though, as I'm not decided if I'll go on to emulate Zero/Ao or wait for Falcom to come through on their desire to get all their games on steam)
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>>184330475
Well, I was reading about a Faxanadu fan remake that was released last year.
Apparently the guy who did it planned a kickstarter but got shoot down by Konami, kek.
I played a bit, but it has some bugs and areas of dead space. The good part is the save slots.
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>>184331192
>the game had a nude mod made less than 24H after the Steam release
I wonder if a cool anon will make a Ricotta nude mod for Ys VIII when it comes out.
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>>184334096
Make sure to enter and exit that dungeon often, even as you get farther in. I had to reach level 27 before I could reliably make it to the end, and that's with abusing freeze magic on all the skeleton/lich enemies. Last few floors are precarious if you're planning on saving Elixirs for the boss (but I used one on the penultimate floor and did just fine).

>>184334257
That guy simply wasn't going to acquire the IP for what he was asking, and we're talking about licensing a former Hudson IP from Konami of all companies. T'was a fool's errand. But I'd like to play it, or a really in-depth ROM hack of the game (after I bother to play through the original).

>>184334415
Easier in Gurumin's case since there already was a nude model for Parin, just relegated to a certain animation until someone cracked that.
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>>184238591
Adventure is going to cuck Laxia. Just like all the other girls
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>>184334751
Yeh I remember the nude healing.
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>>184335119
Is she even interested in Adol romantically? I thought she's the Karna archtype.
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So Cassius is totally cool with Estelle and Joshua dating? I'm surprised he didn't do the whole "I won't let you have her that easily." especially considering how much of a doting father he is to her.
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>>184336819
In SC he approves it and with how much of a ruseman he probably engineered it
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>>184308846
Does Lloyd even show any attraction to Cecil? Doesn't he see her as an older sister or something?
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Rate the chest monster themes
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On a real note guys, does anyone ever ship Juna with Crossbell?
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>>184337657
What will their children look like?
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>>184337412
Concentrating All Firepower > Everything
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>>184337003
Once in a while he probably realizes she's also a very hot woman like when applying sunscreen. Or when he was a little jealous when she was headpatting Zeit. But in the end in his mind she'll always be his big sister especially since she was going to marry his brother.
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>>184337657

I want to rub my face on her sweaty thighs
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>>184337657
What a generic looking character, honestly.
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>>184337740
Pink sentient bells.
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>>184337657
I don't know about ship but I'd train Juna with Crossbell
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>>184337947
me too
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>>184337740
She'll bear children that are patriotic to Crossbell?

So I'm reading the entire switch attacks thing. Is Juna the only one who can switch attack modes with Strike and Gunner or will everyone else get it later? And will Falcom give us Dante!Rean?
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>>184337003
He clearly used to have a crush on her, probably when younger, he relapses into it from time to time like when Cecil says she's going on a date after they see the show, and he gets surprised thinking it's a guy, only to find out she was talking about Ilya.
Or it may just be over protectiveness.
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>>184338034
Who would have thought the ultimate being would be the offspring of Juna

>>184338093
I'd be impressed if the only thing a city passed down was mild patriotism.
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>>184338093
Ash seems to swap between a Halberd, to a scythe on a chain type weapon i think. Maybe not all of them will swap, but surely the new class will have the means to. Rean will probably switch between 8 leaves styles.
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Finished Zero. Easily the worst Trails I've played. All that hype for nothing.
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>>184336212
There are some scenes but I could be misreading
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>>184338359
I just can't get past the translation quality
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>>184338180
Who wouldn't have a crush for a woman straight out of /ss/ porn like Cecil?
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>>184338694
Don't forget the massive tits
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>>184338359
What didn't you like about it? I personally found it way more fun than most of sky, aside from the 3rd.
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>>184327256
I love the first 35 seconds, but the rest are pretty mediocre.
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>>184336974
Definitely no man in their right mind would pick Estelle for a wife.
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>>184339518
Exactly, he had to use his ruseing powers to engineer a husband for Estelle.
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>>184336819
He already think of Joshua as his son at that point anyway.
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>>184339518
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>>184339723
Truly too violent and cruel to be a wife
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>>184339809
My wife Estelle is perfect! PERFECT!
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Scarlet Tempest or Masquerade of Lies?
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>>184339953
Go back to polishing your loser knives Joshua.
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>>184340209
Masquerade of Lies, in part because of where it plays.
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>>184340712
>:P
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>>184337751
I'd put Bring Up Trust right after that.

>>184340209
Masquerade, but I prefer Prelude to the Omen to both.
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it's easier to tell when she's not jealous, PeTioTe
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>>184341331
Whatever could you mean?
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>>184341495
It's almost funny how the only one who gets jealous is the only one who can truly win.
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>>184338093

They claimed initially it was only for Juna, but that's probably not true consideirng there's 20 other PCs in the game, and it's probably just a ruse to hide Gun wielding Rean.
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Wait, why was Dieter a bad guy again? Wasn't he just fighting for freedom for Crossbell?
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>>184342039
There's no way they're going to dedicate an entire mechanic just for her anon. Plus i think they only showed her, not claimed that she was the only one.
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>>184339680
>He already think of Joshua as his son at that point anyway.
I...I'd expect that to make him more protective.
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>>184343075
Spoiler that anon. Also he basically put Crossbell in danger purposely, forcefully enforced his methods, and made all the neighboring nations pissed at him.
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>>184343178
I don't think she'll be the only one but I highly doubt everyone will get it. Unless they're super creative it'd be tough to do for some characters.
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>>184341331
Love moments where girls get jealous of bromance
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>>184341331

Estelle, Tita and Elie all bullied their love interests into loving them back somehow, bully is love in that world
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>>184343696
Estelle also bullied him into admitting she was the older sister despite being younger. The effects can be seen to this day.
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Have any of you ever seen the side story CDs with Estelle, Joshua, Agate, Tita, and Erika? I thought it was a bit strange. Erika seems to be a lot less crazy when Tita is being super nice to Joshua and she also didn't care at all with Estelle sleeping with Tita. Despite her going hulk when it's Agate.

Is it because she personally knows Cassius Bright, Estelle is a woman, and Joshua is super well mannered in comparison to Agate? Or is only because Tita has a crush on Agtate?
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There is a very high chance that Cecil smashed Lloyd's face into her breasts when she hugged him when he was younger.
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>>184344475
I really really wish i was Lloyd.
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>>184344228
female privilege
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>>184344228
What is the point of the same question every 3-4 threads? Especially when you answered it yourself in the end?
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>>184344665
If you want the full course you should be Guy. And just pretend there's a timeline where you don't die and get married and live happily ever after.
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>>184345074
Yes but if I'm Guy I don't get Elie.
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do you guys think there will be a demo for cs3 on the jp store?
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>>184344228
Pretty sure we answered this exact same question a bunch of times already.

Agate = Feelings of love, risk of being taken away. Erika probably thinks he's a potential pedo.

Estelle and Joshua = Close friends, who won't take her away from her. Petty jealousy is the most she'll show towards them.
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Favorite games of the series?

Only found out of the series via Cold Steel by hacking muh vita

My play order fucked up afterwards so

CS > Zero > CS 2 > 3rd > Ao > FC > SC

was basically my play order / fav to least games of the series
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>>184344932
I don't think it's the same person. Is someone linking the question on these generals or something though? It's like the 5th time I've seen it.
>>184345074
>just pretend there's a timeline where you don't die
So McBurn/Rean's timeline?
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>>184345152
Manwhore.
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>>184345228
3rd > Zero > Ao > Fc > Sc
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>>184345228
>CS>
Stopped reading right there
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>>184344475
I've only played bits of Zero but uh doesn't she STILL do this?
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>>184345228
Third > SC > FC > Zero > Ao
Ao is probably lower because of the lack of full translation
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>>184345449
Not a fan of CS? or haven't played?

I like you, we're alike
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>>184345534

CS is shit anon. Don't you know that. It's the worst! Disaster! HURGHFLARGELFUFACKRACK!!!!
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>>184345534
I haven't played them yet, waiting for the pc release.
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>>184345393
Its ok because Lloyd doesn't ask to have his face smashed in her breasts and Elie is still perfect
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>>184345228
Ao>Zero>SC>3rd>FC
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>>184345228
Ao > SC > Zero > 3rd > FC > Sen > Sen II
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>>184345228
3rd > Ao > Zero > SC > CS2 > CS1 > FC
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>>184345228

Ao > 3rd > Zero > SC > FC

Ao being the best isn't even a question, it's just that good. I love them all though.
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>>184345228

Zero>3rd>FC>SC

Felghana>Origin>Ark=Seven>II Chronicles>I Chronicles>Celceta>V

Brandish 2>Brandish3>Brandish TDR>Brandish 1

Witch>Vermillion>Song
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My heart tells me FC is my favourite Trails.
My mind tells me it isn't even my second favourite.
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>>184345228
Zero > 3rd > SC = CS1 > FC. Waiting on Ao's translation and for my copy of CS2 to arrive.
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>>184345228
So far, I'm really digging the Cold Steel titles. Plus I still gotta finish up FC and I'll probably be getting SC on Steam along with 3rd.
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>>184345228
CS1&2>3rd>SC>FC.
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Actually glad that not everyone is placing CS at the bottom, was worried that it might be underwhelming what with the school setting and all.
Though it's going to be weird going into it having played Ao which spoils so much of it.
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>>184350825
I presume its because this place is full of people more interested in the overall story of trails which FC advances and explores the least which means it gets put at the bottom.
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So, how will Falcom nerf Chrono Burst in CS3 guys?

I mean, they tried it in CS2 by upping the cost and that didn't do much because of EP Cut 1 and 2.
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>>184350951
Yeah, it's probably why I liked Ao so much since it makes use of all of the overall story up to that point.
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>>184350825
Well most of the games so far have been better in their own story terms, but CS did answer some small things, but it's own story is not finished it, and it's been nothing but setting up for Sen III. Some think the characters feel a tad worse than previous ones.
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>>184351373
Crossbell used its characters even more poorly than the Sen gamed did, though.

Elie and Tio add absolutely nothing to anything that happens in Ao (Tio gets a brief thing with hacking against Campanella, I guess.)

At least CS2 managed to fit some sort of arc in for every member of Class VII, even if they were halfassed/just foreshadowed things for 3 like with Laura.
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>>184351363
I loved FC and would probably place it somewhere in my top 3 but I appreciate a lot of the complaints that most of the plot isn't related to the overarching storyline and if thats your main draw to the trails franchise then it is definitely going to the weakest.

But to me no game has captured that feeling of exploring a living breathing world for the first time like FC, the slowly unravelling coup plot kept me hooked and the character introductions were great. Of course I've happily accepted I'm a minority on this front and that to most more dedicated trails fans it doesn't really hold up.

Have the best city music in the series as thanks for reading my blog https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeSqg3t0CKs
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>>184350825
I placed both Sen games at the bottom as they have some major problems, but they are still great games despite what the shitposters say. School is actually the best part of the first game imo. Most of the NPCs are great and sometimes better than Class VII itself.
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>>184351342
Raising the EP cost even higher
Taking it out outright
Making it empty your EP/CP after the second turn
Giving you nasty delay after the second turn

One of these
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>>184351991
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ur_mV3-TYUg

this is my favorite city music, if it counts.

one of the few times i prefer an evo track.
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>>184351342
Giving it to enemies
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>>184351342
Better question, will Falcom remove Tauros + Domination bullshit?
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>>184351991
I place FC on the top as well.
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>>184352208
Tauros wasn't broken in CS1 because it only worked on physical attacks and you had delay out of the ass for using them.
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>>184351902
Elie is the only one who has like zero development outside of a potential romance with Lloyd. Tio is more subdued in general but she still stays relevant thanks to support/technology skills, has her connection to Guy, her banter with Roberts and Jonah, her quests and love for Michey etc. The rest of the main and secondary cast get plenty of scenes and are utilized nicely. The only thing I don't like is locking Rixia and Wazy's backstories behind an optional event that has to compete with waifus to boot.
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>>184200251
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>>184351902
The hell are you on about? Just because nobody had that much of a tragic past that influenced the overall plot doesn't mean they didn't do much, the characters in Crossbell are way more fleshed out than CS, where everyone feels a little too bland and their friendship very forced at times, they don't even make them interact all that much outside of Rean.

Plus everyone had a good chunk of dealings in those games, Elie and Tio had their past revealed in Zero, which is why in Ao they don't feel that relevant, but even then, Elie is still the one who babies the group, and their negotiator plus political know how, Randy is their strongest physical members, and good at tricky situations, Lloyd is their specialist in analytical skills, and gathering clues, Tio is their tech support, and analyzer, Noel was their driver and other gunner aside from Elie, and Wazy their laid back, but knowledgeable and secretly super strong. supporter.

In Cs they kinda bloated the cast too much, and made some characters suffer for it, others are downright ignored for 2 freaking games, not to mention Crow's reasoning being complete bullshit. I didn't hate it, but it could have been a lot better, plus, their story feels padded as fuck so far, since it's been nothing but setting up, regressing Rean's characters at the start of CS 2 in relation to his Shrek mode, and then ending it on a slow note and even the final boss adds to the joke by talking about how he's pointless. Plus Crossbell's story arc ended up having the best twist in the entire series so far near the end, which helps.

Hopefully Sen III makes up for all the slow buildup in the first two games, but so far i'm not impressed by what i saw on them. Gameplay wise it did become better though, aside from making shit too easy.
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>>184352661
>wicrosoft will never make an os as good as Bindows ZX again
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>>184352527
Elie's development is just not as upfront as the others. We get to see how she is little by little, and she feels more distant due to how her past is not all that tragic, and she overcomes her deal early on. But even then we see she's not just blandy mc bland, like some anons prior to the game getting a translation said, like the fear of ghosts, being a good mother figure in the group, the negotiation skills, her general jealous attitude towards Lloyd, and having a more forward attitude after setting on the idea of following along on the SSS. Tio also did show small signs even if she was also not that present due to her deal also getting cleared out in Zero, like her childishness despite being super smart, her slow but noticeable positive attitude instead of just remaining stoic, and opening herself up to her own problems more easily.

I do agree about Rixia and Wazy though, their backstories being locked behind the final event is a little annoying, luckily you can watch all of them if you save and load, and have enough points with everyone. I find it most annoying with Rixia though since she takes forever to become a main part of the group,
and even then feels way more distant than all of them, probably due to the fact she is gotten so late, and we otherwise can only get to see her from time to time on the Arc en ciel, but it doesn't add to much to her character.
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>>184352749
>others are downright ignored for 2 freaking games

Rean: Main protagonist, almost all of CS2 is about him
Crow:Main Antagonist, major focus in CS2/frequently involved in CS1
Elliot: Kinda sucks but he has the arc over two games of coming out of his dad's shadow/coming of age
Machias:Literally one of the Kiseki characters with the largest change in character from start to finish
Fie: Yeah she doesn't really do much but at least we have her arc with Zephyr and shit seems to be getting real for her in 3
Alisa:Arc with her mom, I guess. I expect more from her in 3, being the daughter of the company producing weapons of mass destruction
Emma:Basically the heroine of the Cold Steel games, honestly. Direct relationship/story arc tied to the main Anguis of the game
Laura: Is kind of muh-sword but she's being set up to go toe to toe with Duvalie and possibly Arianrhod in 3
Gaius: Admittedly he is the most ignored of all but he's also literally a squire in 3 so we will see


Most of these characters have more going on than Lloyd, Tio or Elie ever did in Ao, and more than Lloyd or Elie did in the whole duology.
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>>184352198
>Arianrhod uses Chrono Burst in her first turn
>Grand Cross
>Grand Cross again
>Goes into Enhanced state
>Steals your critical turn
>Grand Cross again
>Headpats Duvalie after that
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>>184353865
I'd say that the main heroine in CS1 was Alisa out of all of the girls. She was getting pushed the most and her problems were way more in the forefront. CS2 pushes Emma over everyone else though.
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>>184344475
Hot as fuck.
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Crossbell hasthe best setting and story in the series, but its cast of characters are the weakest. I have a hard time seeing people genuinely argue this, the Crossbell games are far more about the events surrounding the characters than the characters themselves, that's why all of them except for Randy and Rixia really have no baggage
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>>184353983
Waga na wa hagane, subete ga tachkiru mono
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How do you think Alisa will die so Rean can become a swordmaster?
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>>184353865
I'm not talking about importance to the overall plot though. But i do agree that they have potential to be fixed. I just felt really disappointed by the lack of interactions most of them had, although i can easily blame it on the bloated cast and lack of time to add scenes to make everyone show more of their own personalities.

I'm hoping that since Sen III will most likely be long as fuck, will add time for us to talk to them outside of events. SSS felt really likable even without focusing on events with them, since they had plenty of scenes together.
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Daily reminder that I am going to impregnate Elie
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>>184354221
She'll die off screen after marrying Rean and giving him a daughter to dote on.
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>>184353583
I appreciate all that but Elie is still boring and the least developed one because there's nothing for her to do in Ao. Her grandpa takes a backseat so her only connection to the plot is Mariabell and even that is barely utilized.And almost everyone else stands out too much so it only makes it worse. In the end most people will just remember her fanservice/romance scenes.
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>>184354140
No baggage? What?

Lloyd was orphaned as a kid when his parents died in an airship crash and had his brother murdered later on. Tio was mindfucked by the DG cult and watched a bunch of kids die from their terrible experiments.

But discounting all that, why do you need every character to have a tragic backstory to be interesting? Hell, on the note, a lot of characters in Sky and CS led pretty happy lives.
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>>184354175
Korede, Owari des.

SEIKI! GRAND CROSS!

>>184354140
Are you kidding? Rixia is barely even there. Randy is indeed bes bro, but everyone else had time to add to their shit.

Relevancy towards events is not the same as good characters.
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>>184354667
How is an Anguis allowed to be this cute?
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>>184354393
Lack of interactions between individual characters is just kind of a thing Kiseki has though, I don't think it's fair to pin it on Sen.

What relationship did Zane and Tita have? Tita and Schera? Agate and Kloe? In the case of Crossbell, what relationship did Noel and Tio have or Wazy and Elie? Etc etc

I agree Sen might have it the worst because of its cast size, but Kiseki has never really excelled at having individual character relationships for the most part because everything is seen through the perspective of the protagonist and we don't really get things like skits to flesh them out, along with the fact that dialogue changes so much in key scenes depending on who you bring with you and the options are often so vast.
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>>184354662
>a lot of characters in Sky
I'm not taking part in this conversation but is there a single Sky party member that doesn't have some degree of tragic backstory. The closest I can think of is Kloe and she has being orphaned and having to deal with the pressure of leadership. Please don't try and argue about the other games, I'm just querying this singular point and for the sake of the question don't care about whether its unique to sky.
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>>184354856
Something that I hope that the next arc does when it shrinks the cast size is take a page out of Tales and have party skits. Or at least let you drag everyone along all game long outside of the mandatory solo or whatever events. I don't really like how once you start going past the main character, its really easy to see how minimal certain character interactions are even though its supposed to be a group effort.
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>>184354662
You're right, I discounted Tio's backstory. I guess what I meant to say is that only Rixia and Randy really have problems that continue into the present time in Ao (and Lloyd's brother, but honestly, that comes up so rarely before the very end), so everyone else feels like they've been backseated. Rixia isn't even that important either, honestly.

Ao is the Randy game with occasional spotlight moments for everyone else.
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>>184355018
> is there a single Sky party member that doesn't have some degree of tragic backstory.
The fact that Tita didn't instantly jump to your mind is astounding. Richard doesn't really have one either.
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>>184355235
I'd rather just see FC style parties where you get given people based on the story rather than "pick 2 characters out of sixteen"
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>>184355018
Tita is actually the closest one to not being that tragic, and Walter. Walter is just hung up on Walter, and the events surrounding it aren't that heavy, and aside from Tita's parents traveling a lot for work, she's happy, and fine.

>>184354856
We do get to see most of them talk with each other though, in Ao we even check support member dialogue since it acts like they're there, aside from maybe the final chapters. In CS it just felt kinda slow, and too focused on Rean itself, and not enough scenes of people bantering with each other.

It doesn't even have to be anything super fancy, have the characters show more of a personality towards certain events, instead of just acting really normally towards all of it.
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>>184354856
FC is the absolute worst at this too, far far far worse than Sen could ever be accused of being. The game literally is broken up so each party member forges a relationship with estelle and joshua and absolutely no one else.
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>>184355587
correction: they set some seeds up like Olivier and Schera, but it's still not really as in depth as the 1-1 relationships sen 1 sets up between the classmates who are conflicting with each other.

(i dont think either is particularly great, for what its worth.)
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>>184355557
>And Walter. Walter is just hung up on Walter

I went full retard there for a second. I meant to say Zin is hung up on Walter.
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>>184355418
Oh whoops forgot about tita, no need for passive aggression, I was genuinely curious if I'd forgotten someone.

Richard has the fact he was tricked into betraying his country for a shadowy secret society while ruining the lives and careers of countless subordinates and friends who trusted him. You can make the argument that its not remotely his fault but it definitely mentally affected him and counts as a fairly tragic 'backstory' by third even if its not really a backstory.

>>184355557
I presume you mean Zin instead of Walter since Walter isn't playable. I almost put Zin but his past was still mildly 'tragic' even if he doesn't realise that it wasn't actually bad at all.
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>>184355349
It's true that Randy gets the biggest spotlight with his shit family but Lloyd's brother comes up often if you visits Cecil or his grave etc. Wazy has a tragic backstory too even if Ao mostly focuses on his gang leader side and feud with Wald. And Rixia's arc is mostly connected to the arc en ciel so if you want her to feel less distant you should keep talking to Ilia, Sully and the rest of cast as well as San San.
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>>184355897
I think the main issue is the lack of a proper translation for Ao so far. We only get main story and sidequests, so some of NPCs that may add to a character won't be known to most people right now. Hell, you even to see a little bit of it for certain characters like Elie and Tio when you talk to Elie's maid and Butler, and Tio by talking to her caretaker and the head nurse at the hospital.
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>>184355734
Nah, some party members are friends in Sen even though they never fight each other. Emma and Fie along with Gaius and Elliot come to mind. Laura's friends with the other sword people and they push Jusis/Millium/Machias as a group. I also recall that there's certain party members that always end up together on group studies as well such as Jusis/Emma so its safe to say that those combinations are close too.
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Guys, what the fuck? Why is this general talking about Falcom games and not full of shitposting and memes?
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>>184354479
But who will take control of the Reinford company?
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>>184356315
sorry
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>>184356315
>implying
We're still doing what we normally do and making exaggerated criticisms of whatever series isn't our favourite, just in paragraphs.
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>>184356315
Crazy shit happens once people start talking about who their favorite characters are, and everyone as their own opinion on everything.

I'm more surprised that everyone isn't shitting on anyone else for having "shit taste" on their choice.
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>>184356315
Yeah, xseed and nisa shills are silent today, shockingly
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>>184356526
I want to send Renne back to paradise.
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>>184356173
Yeah, that's why I hate this spreasheet/patch business. If you can't wait and feel you are having fun go ahead. But don't act like you can fully judge a huge game (when it comes to dialogue) and its characters based on little information. Information that's not even 100% correct either.
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>>184179263
Who do you think Adol liked more?As a friend of course
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>>184356635
>only send
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>>184356173
Yeah, as the anon arguing against Crossbell's cast, I will admit I experienced the games with zeromonkey's jank patch and the spreadsheet for Ao.

I also really, really enjoyed both.

I just think the Sen games, which I enjoy a lot, get blasted for problems that the series has had all along, and that just became particularly evident when we were given such a large cast right off the bat.

What's interesting about Sen is lots of the characters have meaningful relationships with characters besides Class VII (Jusis and the girl from the horse club, Alisa and Vincent/Ferris, Machias and the Chess club, Emma and Dorothee, etc.)
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>>184356574
>mfw can't read any Crossbell related posts until I finish the two games
Suffering.
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>>184356635
Careful there anon.
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>>184356670
Adol's waifu is adventure. But his mistress is obviously Feena.
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>>184356670
Forgot pic.
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>>184356753
Stay strong anon, it's worth it.
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>>184356903
Don't forget to buy Dana's game
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>>184356670
>>184356903
Dogi

Romantically
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Chapter 1 -
Rean/Alisa/Elliot/Laura
Gaius/Emma/Jusis/Fie/Machias

Chapter 2 -
Rean/Emma/Jusis/Fie/Machias
Alisa/Elliot/Laura/Gaius

Chapter 3
Rean/Alisa/Emma/Jusis/Gaius
Fie/Machias/Elliot/Laura

Chapter 4 -
Rean/Elliot/Machias/Fie/Laura
Alisa/Emma/Jusis/Gaius

Chapter 5 - Rean/Laura/Emma/Jusis/Gaius/Millium
Alisa/Fie/Machias/Elliot/Crow

Chapter 6 -
Rean/Alisa/Fie/Machias/Elliot/Crow
Laura/Emma/Jusis/Gaius/Millium

Man, Sara was really lazy when it came to forming groups and for whatever reason Fie/Machias and Emma/Jusis are always together. Gaius has also never been in a group together with Fie/Machias either out of the OG class VII members.
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>>184356774
Aidos doesn't exist.
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>>184356903
Adol will impregnate Laxia
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>>184356748
I'm glad you admit you have no qualifications to make these comparisons and judgements. But anyway Sen had plenty of other problems. It's just that everyone defaults to complaining about school/harem antics cause it's easier. For what it's worth though I still think they are enjoyable games and the cast is likeable for the most part.
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>>184355349
The reason Rixia and Randy were more relevant in Ao was to make up for them being pushed to the background in Zero. Sure, there was some foreshadowing regarding the two in that game, but it wasn't anything particularly substantive. The main conflict in Zero focused on the DG cult. Lloyd was relevant because his brother was part of the effort to shut down the cult's operations. Elie was relevant because her grandfather is a politician and frequently interacted with various officials that were part of the cult's conspiracy. Tio was relevant because she was a victim of the cult's experiments. Randy had no such relevance. He was mostly there as a supporting cast member whose appeal were his personality and character dynamics rather than plot details. Same goes for Rixia. And Wazy. And Noel.

Thus, Llloyd, Elie, and Tio were kind of benched at times in Ao to allow for the others to have a decent amount of screen time and development. Given how dense the plot got in the Crossbell games, I don't really see any problems with this.
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>Play Ys Origins for the first time, it being my first Ys game
>Play as Yunica first
>Going through the game and wondering about most of the relevant stuff on the plot isn't making sense to me, but probably because i didn't bother to play on release order
>Get to Zava's fight
>She fatally wounds Roy
>Try my best not to fuck up and beat on the first try because i'm angry too
>there's no bullshit moral faggotory saving her ass, Yunica just freaking murders Zava

Are the rest of the series like this? I feels weird that the main character didn't try to spare, of act like killing is evil in that moment.
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>>184357378
Harem antics are way worse in Crossbell though, and Crossbell introduced that element in the first place.
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>>184357191
Log off the orbal net, Joachim
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>>184357191
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>>184357602
Nobody lets pesky facts get in the way of whining about Sen.
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>>184357757
I wonder how opinions will change when it comes out for PC.
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I want to cut off Kevin's onion hair and sprinkle it on Ries' lunch for flavor
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>>184357851
It won't change the narrative that Sen introduced anime poison to the series.
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>>184357602
Oh it's that time again. Look, things should be judged on its own. No matter what sora and ao/zero did or didn't shouldn't excuse sen. And the point most anons usually make is that for one crossbell's harem antics are always played for laughs (and there's only one winner anyway) and for another that they don't detract from the game. The plot, the characters, everything is still really good. Sen has many problems and the harem stuff only brings it further down because it won't let any other meaningful relationships happen.
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>>184358004
>Anime poison
I always find people who use "anime" as an insult to be idiots so i'll just ignore them as usual I guess.
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>>184357946
Don't bully Kevin
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>>184357946
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>>184358004
>implying Falcom games weren't always "anime" as fuck
>implying the word "anime" means something
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>>184358004
That also started with Crossbell and it's new artist.
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>>184358014
The only girls that have a real chance with Rean are Alisa and Emma.
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>>184358595
Indeed. It's always been a stupid criticism, but it won't go away. That said, the school festival is annoyingly overimportant and Japan-specific.
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>>184358595
>>implying Falcom games weren't always "anime" as fuck
It's more obvious now and the people who are too cool for anime are now embarrassed that Sky and Crossbell will me mixed in with Anime Steel.
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Ok, it's time to settle it once and for all.

Trails in the Sky = inspired by Disney
Crossbell = inspired by Harry Potter
Trails of Cold Steel = inspired by Anime
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>>184358883
>More obvious now
More like people just realized that Falcom is following generic anime traditions when it got to CS.
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>>184358879
yeah but sky and especially the 3rd had a long and tedious school part way less interesting than what CS did. I realize it wasn't the main focus, but in one game they're making a big deal out of a play, the other a festival.
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>>184358595
It's true.
>Sora is late 90s anime
>Zero/Ao is mid 00s anime
>Sen is 10s anime
The problem with Sen is that most of the time it doesn't do anything good or interesting with the tropes it has, compared to Sora/Zero/Ao.
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>>184358879
Remember that entire chapter in FC when Estelle and Joshua attended a school and helped put on a school play?
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>>184359034
Sora - inspired by early-00s anime
Zero/Ao - inspired by mid-00s anime
Sen - inspired by early-10s anime
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>>184358525
I wonder if she had onion inserted inside her during her time in paradise.
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>>184359230
The school was a pretty good way to make the NPCs memorable and show a progression in their lives that the other games couldn't quite as well.
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>>184359114
>>184359245
That's true. I mean more the attitude of the characters. The school sequence in FC is obviously far worse to actually play through.
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>>184359291
ding ding ding

>>184359034
I don't remember a disney film where the villain launches a military coup and armed soldiers open fire at a child.
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>>184359291
What's the next step then? Virtual worlds? Giants?
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>tfw actually enjoyed the school segment in sky
It wasn't even that long.
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>>184359524
Isekai.
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>>184359245
Are you saying it wasn't important seeing gallant knight Estelle and pretty princess Joshua?
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>>184359524
I hope Macross.
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>>184359524
Isekai. Calvard's MC will be from our world and wake up in Zemuria, and the lore will be ruined forever.
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>>184359230
FC and a lot of SC were predicatable as fuck. SC's first half might as well be a monster of the week anime because of the way that they handled the Enforcers.

Sora really shines at the end of SC and 3rd when Falcom dug into the darker series of the era.

>>184359408
I thought the way that Rean and friends behaved was appropriate in the final chapter. I mean the ILF was supposed to be defeated and disbanded, not to mention that they had finished basically everything for the year when it came to exams and whatever so there was nothing else to do but to put on the festival and enjoy time with their friends/family.

Its only fair that they'd be pissed/annoyed after spending months setting up for this concert and having to deal with a stupid spooky castle out of nowhere.
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>>184359757
Or worse. Adol wakes up in Zemuria. Merging the two series.
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>>184359757
>Isekai
If they wanted to cash in that genre, then the time period passed. Almost all of the major publishers don't accept that kind of story anymore and they sell a hell of a lot less now.
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>>184360045
Is that Grunt?
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>>184360181
>TFW even Falcom poke fun at how forgettable the guy was in the 3rd

Poor Greg can't catch a break.
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>>184359843
They're all predictable as fuck, its not unique to FC and SC and its not actually an issue because despite that they're still all really well put together. I don't mind a bit of a predictable plot if its executed. Sure Richard might as well do what Estelle is saying in the picture but its still built up and executed well enough to be enjoyable. Some of the best fiction out there will flat out tell you what the other sides plan is and you can easily infer how things will go down.
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>>184360072
You should probably open your eyes anon, because Isekai still keeps popping up all over the place.

Also wasn't that just a single competition that forbid the use of Isekai stories for judging? Plus, plenty of Isekai anime getting greenlit.
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>>184360538
Its starting to die down, we've had mainstream subversions and mainstream parodies now. Its no longer the flavour of the week to cash in on.
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>>184360530
I wonder if they'll ever top the final Ao twist. I don't think anyone had any way to guess that one unless they saw the trailer and figured something out from the imagery.
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>>184354804
being immortal helps
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>>184360538
Isekai or rather Narou is not as booming or flavor of week as it used to be much like battle harems. They still exist like all genres but we're just getting the leftovers that can be considered passable.

They're getting passed up for other series and sales are taking a steady fall. Maybe we'd get an actually non wish fulfillment isekai like Dunbine and Rayearth sometime in the future.
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>>184358525
wait, who's the regular onion again?
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>>184361012
Even if she didn't have that, she'd still be the cutest. I want to bully Duvalie by beating Arianhod in front of her.
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>>184360045
Is that Akatsuki artwork? Man, they really did that guy dirty. Um, what was his name again?
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Test time /fg/
You are approached by a hungry red haired nun who wants food, do you feed the nun?
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>>184361365
Fast crafts man.
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>>184361365
Fast Craft Man
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>>184357149

Well yeah, but the point is so Rean get's 3 trips each with each member of the original class, and 1 each for Crow and Millum.
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>>184362173
Gaius is only paired with Rean twice
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You know what I miss the most about FC, a canon main pairing at the end of the first game. It soothes my soul.
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>>184359843
>Its only fair that they'd be pissed/annoyed after spending months setting up for this concert and having to deal with a stupid spooky castle out of nowhere.

I thought it was weird how they were more bent out of shape over the castle interrupting their festival than they were for nearly all of CS2 towards the Noble Alliance forcing them out of school entirely and into a war.
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>>184362387

Never again.
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>>184363207
It just hurts so much, I like my nice confirmed relationship and tension from the sexy sky bandit goddess wanting in edgymans pants.
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>>184362387
Elie is pretty much the only one who wins in her event, but yeah, it would be nice to get proper confirmation on a main pairing.
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>>184363370
Its not quite the same as the perfect guaranteed confirmation in FC and everything that can come out of it. Its better than nothing but it still hurts my soul to lack closure.
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i just started chapter 2 of zero, is tio talking to animals something that i will have to accept because she is a main character? or there is some kind of explanation?
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>>184362387
But you can equip a character with the Canon master quartz and then link with them in Cold Steel.
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>>184364001
Its just not the same anon, that quartz unlocks the "tear apart anons soul" art.
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>>184363841
There will be an explanation on that. The others probably figure it's just her staff enabling her to do so which is not the whole truth.
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I always knew I was in the minority but I had no idea you guys were so thirsty for romance. Crossbell's friendships and relationships in general were more than enough for me.
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>>184364363
I'm not that thirsty for romance, I'm thirsty for romance that is canon and done neatly with nice big confirmations. I guess I'm mostly thirsty for closure.
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>>184363031
I feel like it's a difference of "Ok there's just one final thing and then we can FINALLY do our concert" vs the war being a much bigger thing that you have to take in and think calmly about. Hopefully that makes sense, I can't really think of a great way to word this.
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This looks so sexy omg
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>>184364619
What a sexy revive balm! What am i supposed to be looking at?
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>>184364856
everything anon, everything
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So who's the edgiest kiseki?
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>>184364856
Ao PC with the English spreadsheet in
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>>184365061
Disgusting.
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>>184365007
Pre end of third edgy priest man.
The most trying to be edgy but looking silly is Walter "indoor sunglasses" The Direwolf
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>>184365061
Does the PC version happen to have a perfect carry over save from Zero?
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>>184364619
Can you play the pc version with the mouse like the sky games? you could do everything using the mouse and i loved that.
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>PC couck will never ever play Ao
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>>184363328

It's cause Sky has a female lead. Husbandu options aren't nearly as popular as waifu options.

Even in Persona 3 portable the female protagonist has half as many romance options as the male, and two of those are for characters that don't stick around, and one is a kid, meaning if you want a normal relationship that's around for all the romance events you have one option.
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>>184367873
Sounds like we need to find Kondo and beat him up until he gives us another female protag!
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>>184367873
>making waifu options a thing in a series that spans over 5+ games long
Where did everything go wrong?
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>>184369236
Around the time they decided to add waifu choices in a series that spans over 5+ games long
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What do you think about leonidos
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>>184370058
He was a pretty good spartan I guess.
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Hi /fg/, I am a Victoria's Secret model and I recently made advances on XSEED's Tom to get him to reveal top secret Crossbell information. After 2 weeks of "work", what I've learned is that they have no plans for it. You're welcome.
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>>184371216
thank fren
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Anyone knows where I can find some more Zemurian Fragments at the end of Ao?

I got the one on top of Orchid Tower, the one from Joshua and the one from the themepark tower.
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Fresh bread for hungry nuns
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>>184371683
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>>184370058

I can't wait to kick his ass in CS3.

Hell I can't wait to kick everyones ass. The kids are adults now. Rean will let no one stand in his way. It's fucking payback time.
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>>184371618
https://www.gamefaqs.com/psp/649576-nippon-game-taishou-jushou-kinen-zero-and-ao-no-kiseki-gold/faqs/74205?single=1#Final Day
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>>184371780
I looked there but it doesn't list them. Thanks anyway.
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