/xcg/ - XCOM General

I want to rub my face on Vahlen's sweater puppies!

>>184135168
me too

Third for hot bug-eyed Skirmisher waifus.

>tfw everything goes exactly according to plan

Pistols are guns.

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Death Alley 2 when?

pistols are useful

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Post armor mods NOW

>>184135808
>have to get across that entire alley in 8 turns
god that sounds like hell

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>>184135381

>take off skirmisherfu's helmet
>see this

>>184135808
>street hurricane 2 attack of the clones
oh god no

>>184135808
That map looks sweet. What mod gave you those parcels?

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>>184136193
>>184135808
I'm living it right now

>>184136228
YOU DO NOT WANT TO PLAY THAT MAP

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>>184135869

>>184136330
Oh yes I fucking do. I remember that map from EW and it was sweet as fuck. Gimme.

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>>184135381
>hot bug-eyed Skirmisher waifus
We must defeat the Avatar project before the aliens can perfect it.

>>184136424
no it was terrible

absolute hell

>>184136890
I liked the challenge, you pansy fuck. Give me the mod that gives that map to X2.

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>>184136550
>>184135381

ayy

>>184136378
That looks vaguely advent styled.

>>184137215
>sitting behind explosive low cover
>challenge

>>184133746
I'd rather have every character and line in the game replaced with Joey and his gurglings than see another screenshot of the worst fetish to ever exist in the history of the universe.

>>184137349
pulled from doom mp still figuring out how to get its textures

>>184136890
Sometimes I want a mission like that. It's fun when the game throws you a curveball in the form of an absolute slog.

Ideally, the new Sitrep situation could balance something like that, by giving the player an idea of the terrain in advance. So if you know the map is going to have a lot of explosives, you can plan accordingly.

So reapers are cheeki breeki stalkers from the zone, skirmishers are rogue advents.

Wtf are templars?

>>184137976
My life for Aiur.

>Concealed
>Beserker starts just beating the shit out of everyone for no reason

th-thanks

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>>184137869
This, I fought this in an open air floodzone filled with low cover versus tons of enemies. Exhilarating.

Long war is full of these kind of brawls, and they're fun to tackle.

>>184135808
Garth siad that they put this and hurricane street into the game on the WotC maps

>>184138979
fucking why

>>184137976
Apparently founded by one of the psionic soldiers left over from x1. Which kind of doesn't make sense since a psi rush isn't really viable within the early game when xcom originally fell. (somewhere around after shooting down the first or second UFO).

>>184138979
YEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSS

>>184139024
because we are going back to the city centers where the original abductions took place and where the lost are now. Like part of the Lost and Damned map is based of the bar and grill map fro EU.

>the entire flow of my campaign got fucked up because I accidentally sold too many trooper corpses

>>184138979
>Garth siad that they put this and hurricane street into the game on the WotC maps

Fucking SCORE.

>>184139136
Either a Psi candidate found out they were Gifted after XCOM fell or they're from the EU-EW timeline, teleported from the Temple Ship.

>>184139931
>>184139136

volunteer faction confirmed

>>184139931
>>184140062
I've been hearing about that being a possibility. Also, the lost and abandoned mission shows why the reapers and the skirmishers hate each other... why do you guys think they have reason to hate the templars?

>>184139931
History of Psi research might be different in XCOM 2's version of XCOM 1, since SPARKs are different from MECs too, and JULIAN exists and was apparently created during the XCOM 1 era.

It's possible that upon learning that the aliens had psi, they started trying to find out if some humans naturally had the talent (a la the Furies) and so put together a more ad hoc psi program.

>>184140364
psi powers are kinda influenced by aliens
they probably think theyre gonna turn into the Ethereals or some shit

>>184140364
If Templars are lead by a former XCOM soldier, their reasons for hating the Skirmishers are pretty plain to see, because "fuck ADVENT and their puppets"

Templars and Reapers probably don't get on because Psionics will make people uncomfortable. Reapers probably suspect them of being Ayy collaborators in some way, since Psi is pretty exclusively the domain of the Ayylders.

>>184140606
>Templars and Reapers probably don't get on because Psionics will make people uncomfortable.

Or because the Reapers are creepy weirdos who live off alien corpses and pseudo-cannibalism.

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>>184139931
So what you're saying is long ago in a distant land, the Ethereals, the psi-wielding Masters of Ayys, unleashed an unspeakable evil, but a foolish psionic stepped forth to oppose them. But before the final blow was struck, they tore open a portal in time and flung him into the future where their evil is law, and now the fool seeks to return to the past to undo the evil that is Ayy Lmao?

>>184140839
I don't think the
>ADVENT is food
was a serious line about eating ADVENT troopers.

>>184141036

Who would let that perfectly good meat go to waste? Surely ADVENT flesh would be more delicious than Chryssalids.

>>184141182
Lids are just oversized lobsters

>>184139136
>a psi rush isn't really viable within the early game when xcom originally fell. (somewhere around after shooting down the first or second UFO).
They've really screwed up the canon on what exactly happened to end X1.

>XCOM did horrible
>XCOM did just fine until the Sectopods arrived a few months earlier than they should
>XCOM only shot down 2 UFOs (somehow including a supply barge)
>XCOM died in the Base Assault mission
>XCOM never had MECs or gene-mods
>XCOM had psi-soldiers

Personally, I prefer the narratives where XCOM fought valiantly against an inexorable doom. The "ayy lmao roflstomp" never sat right with me.


Oh, and about the book (where a lot of the roflstomp 'lore' comes from) - it actually had several other inconsistencies not just with known game lore but also reality. Simply put, the author was a hack and the book's canonicity should be suspect.

>>184141830
I don't really care about the canon so long as it's fun.

>>184141830
>Personally, I prefer the narratives where XCOM fought valiantly against an inexorable doom.

Well, they did. If you take the book as canon (I know, I know, but it's still the best objective source we have other than fan theories), XCOM kept fighting even after the Commander was lost, they were just forced to rely on more and more desperate measures as things fell apart.

>>184141830
What are the other inconsistencies?

>>184141830
>it actually had several other inconsistencies not just with known game lore but also reality.

I don't even know how video game books sell. Not only are they written by hacks, they're written by hacks who are so unfamiliar with the source material they get basic information wrong.

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>tfw these graphics are what I'm used to

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>Remake of UFO Defense in 2 never ever
>Remake of Enemy Within in 2 never ever

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>>184143703
rip

>>184142372
>other inconsistencies

Here's a few, what I can remember:
>ADVENT is so stupid that when they make fake news reports, they happen in towns close enough for people to check out themselves

>There is somehow room for soldiers to drill inside a WW2-era submarine

>A trained medic failed to notice an implant with over a meter of wire in someone's back upon examining the fresh surgical wound
>Upon later discovery, he attempts to remove it *in the field*
>This works without causing massive internal bleeding, permanent nerve damage, or death

>Valhen conveniently leaves behind one escape boat with a ton of extra fuel
>A crew of about a half-dozen landlubbers attempts to sail the boat from South America to INDIA.
>Somehow they make it in a matter of DAYS

Oh, there was also a thing with Chryssalids making Zombies instead of Cocoons.

>>184141027
>No Samurai Jack related voice packs
This is not WATCHA.

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>>184142613
>I don't even know how video game books sell.
Some can be good. (Most likely because the author was involved with the creation of the actual game's plot.) Too bad there aren't more examples like this; it's probably the same effect which makes most video games based off of movies bad.

>>184141027
ftfy
>Long ago, on a distance planet, I the Uber Ethereal, psi-wielding conqueror of worlds, unleashed my unspeakable evil, but a foolish psionic Volunteer stepped forth to oppose me.
>CLANG, CLANG, 90% MISS
>But as the final blow struck, I tore open a portal in time and flung him into the future, where my evil is law.
>And now the fool seeks to return to the past to undo the evil that is the Ethereals.

>>184144269
What helmet?

>>184141027
>>184145997
You know, the funny thing about this is that I jokingly thought of it before I learned about Geist.

I give it about a ~10% chance, somewhat less than the ~30% chance that the Temple Ship explosion sent a message back in time to warn the Elders to stop fucking around and send in the Sectopods immediately.

>>184146208
look for the bf4 pack form one of the modders here

>>184146667
Thanks.

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>4 more weeks until WotC

>>184147619
>6 more months until I can be with gf

fuck you

you're nothing

I don't even have a computer anymore

>>184148078
What are you deployed or something?

>>184148078
go sink to the bottom of the ocean

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I think someone is watching me

>>184142291
Which might fit with the creation of JULIAN etc, if you accept that he was R. Shen trying to create an AI to quickly fill the Commander's shoes.

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>>184148078
>On 4chan
>On /vg/
>On /xcg/
>Has a girlfriend

>>184148171
Living in a different state

Made some mistakes. Gonna wait until my vacations to visit her, maybe quit my job before March and just move back there for good

>>184148179
She lives close to the beach so that's a possibility

>>184148551
I'm a lucker dog

>>184148551
It's more likely than you think. I saw her 20 minutes ago

>>184148187
Is that your Stand?

>>184148078
>I don't even have a computer anymore
So that's why you're not enjoying your 6 months of complete and total freedom to shitpost and play vidya whenever you want?

>>184148551
Live with mine for several years now.

I find it hilarious how many supposed "Normies" there are actually on 4chan, despite us being up there with redditors as a meme.

>>184149243
pretty sure you are good so long as you arent r9k

>>184144671
>Oh, there was also a thing with Chryssalids making Zombies instead of Cocoons.

That at least can be justified by saying the Cocoon-breeding method is a relatively new introduction when you see them in-game.

how hard will it fuck my game if I remove an AI mod mid-playthrough?

>>184150528

I don't think it would fuck it up unless you uninstall it while you are doing a mission.

>>184150528
As long as you aren't on the tactical layer, you'll be fine.

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Joey mod when?

Goys I can't afford War of the chawsen, I think I'll have to pirate it.

Shame I'll lose all my mods.

>>184152452
im waiting til its like $20
I can just keep playing Long War in the meantime I guess

>>184152715
>>184152452
Acquire employment

>>184153031
>WHAT ARE YOU POOR?
go back to /v/

>>184153031

I'm in uni

>>184153228
Take a day off, earning $40 in 1 day is not hard

>>184153228
So am I

Engineering major too

>want to continue my LW2 playthrough
>remember that the strategic layer is fucking terrible
every time

Thia is such fucking bullshit I just had a dream about my couple of wotc being playable and I was playing it

This sucks I did a hard mission all for nothing

>>184153468

Lucky you, I'm doing languages

>>184153743
Why would you waste time in college on a worthless degree?

>inb4 hurr durr imma be a translator

>ranger is disoriented
>use them to go grab some loot
>stand right in square
>doesn't do anything
>Move grenadier into loot square
>no problem
Apparently grabbing loot is considered an ability, so when you are disoriented is is "disabled."

>>184153871
did you know theres a bug in the game that makes Ever Vigilant not activate if you open doors or containers?

>>184153842

Can't do anything else, only did 2 years of math in high school because I didn't know better (tourism specialized school).

Well where I live we get lots of northern european tourists so it's not all bad to do languages.

>>184154149
??? Just take math classes????

>>184114214

Titanfall, MGS Frogsuit, MGS something else and Anarchy Children's stuff.

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LOYAL MOST CHAMPION I ELDER'S AM THE

Lamia soldier mod when?

How much work would it be to get their animations right, would it get fucked up if you just put viper animations on?

>>184155813
I think a viper skeleton would mostly line up until you get to the head. That would need to be changed.
Just a guess tho, am not modder.

>>184155521
>crashes

xcom so dead the thread became a fuckin blog

>51%
>miss
wtf that was in my favor

>>184156557
>Only 51%
>On your favor.

Mate, you need to fail more of those sweet sweet 90% shots that mean life or dead, then stuff like that won't even bother you.

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>>184156557
>5%
>hit

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>95%
>MISSED!
>98%
>MISSED!
>76%
>MISSED!

I needed to take a short break after that farce.

>>184156295
>tfw when ayy senpai won't notice u

You have 8 turns to tell me what you think about SMGs or your entire squad gets raped by RNG blessed mutons.

>>184159051
I just think they're neat

>>184159051
Thanks for the mobility boost.

>>184159051
Eh, for what they do i would rather get a shotgun.

>>184159051
They're pretty terrible, almost unusable (as weapons) without extended magazine mod. They lower infiltration time and increase movement speed though, so you're gonna put them on your shinobis, grenadiers, and random slow characters that you haven't put on haven duty

>>184159051
good for grenadiers

>>184159051
I only take them if I have laser or coil versions lying around
the other models are fucking terrible, especially that carry handle or whatever the fuck it's supposed to be

>>184159051
Grenadiers and Swordsman and Flame Technicals, bretty gud

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>>184155521
I put MOST LOYAL CHAMPION into an anagram generator.

>TYPICAL HAM SOLOMON
>SMOOTH CLIP ANOMALY
>HOLY ANIMAL COMPOST
>SMOOTH ANAL OLYMPIC
>LASH PLAY COMMOTION
>HOMO LAYS COMPLAINT
>COMPLAIN SALTY HOMO
>HAT CLAIMS MONOPOLY
>MANY POT ALCOHOLISM
>COMMON OILY ASPHALT
>AMPLY MOONLIT CHAOS
>ATOMIC LYMPH SALOON
>PSYCHO TOLL AMMONIA
>OPTIMAL COLONY SHAM

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>>184159941
>>HOMO LAYS COMPLAINT
>>COMPLAIN SALTY HOMO

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>>184159941

>TYPICAL HAM SOLOMON

THIS MEME WAS PREORDAINED BY THE GODS

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>>184159941
>MANY POT ALCOHOLISM
Ghost is that you?

>>184159941
>SMOOTH ANAL OLYMPIC
L-ewd

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>the Avatar will never look like this

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>>184159941
>HAT CLAIMS MONOPOLY
Fuck off. Naval ship best piece.

>>184161386
that looks like garbage

>>184161386
and for good reason

>>184161386
What's the cape from?

>>184161502
Looks like Warden Gear from Claus.
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=892409062

>>184161386
Tis a shame.

>>184161825
Warden Gear has a hood but no cape, IIRC.

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>>184161934
It's Warden gear, you only get if you are wearing the wraith suit

>>184161934
Literally has a cape, it's a Wraith gear thing.

>>184161386
Lose the scarf/hood and add the Avatar hair

>>184162289
Oh, fair enough. I've never built a Wraith Suit before.

>>184159051
If a soldier can't shoot for shit, give them some mobility. Same as LW1.

>>184161386
Well it's an improvement at the very least

>>184161386
Make it purple, it's not the commander's Avatar after all

>>184163139
The Avatar has black armor with the lights on the armor being purple

would the balance of LW2 be changed that much if you could collect corpses at the end of missions?

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>>184161386
The avatar isn't even a real enemy though. It only appears twice and doesn't do anything interesting. It's not even listed in the website as an enemy.

>>184164001
Here you go
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=786342492

>>184163876
You'd basically never be out of supplies

>>184164001
>the avatar isn't an enemy though
Except it is? The Ethereals barely appeared in the first one too.

>it doesn't do anything interesting
It has mind control, psi lance, a huge aoe attack, its own unique weapon, regenerates health, and teleports after being damaged.

It's more interesting than the pushover Ethereals in the first game.

>>184164385
what if we make everything more expensive too

>>184164496
Then you get 500 dollar plasma guns like LW1

>>184164210
He's actually not that hard because of the AI. This on the other hand
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=823171257

>>184161386
The legs don't match the rest

>>184165554

Those are Anarchy children's wraith legs.

>>184165554
Huh, must have reset while messing around with the torso. Thanks

Elders more like losers

>>184168008
Mutons more like MORONS

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Elders are fags lmao!

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>>184168140
What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little human? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the ADVENT Coalition, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on X-COM, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I’m the top grenade spammer in the entire Coalition. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me across the battlefield? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of codices across the globe and your Avenger is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re fucking dead, Commander. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the ADVENT Coalition and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the planet, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking dead, Commander.

sorry for bad pasta

>>184169008
>sorry for bad pasta
>implying

Dragon rounds or bluescreen on rangers/gunners? Setting ayys on fire seems useful along with a universal +1 damage, but it's fun to melt sectopods with two units.

more like i wish i was dead so the elders would let me rest

>>184169008
>and I have over 300 confirmed kills
Killing rookies isn't that hard alien scum

>>184169905
Dragon. Bluescreens go on Gunslinger-specced Sharpshooters, either for softening up MEC's prior to a hack attempt, or deleting Sectopods with Fan Fire.

>>184169905
>Not using depleted elerium rounds

I want a muton to shove his huge cock into my large intestine with no abandon.

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>>184170357
Wanna try me fucker?

>>184170147
they would raise you from the dead.

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>>184170978
1v1 any day alien scum, bet you can't even do health damage.

>>184171713
what assortment of overpowered mods led to this l a m o

>>184171713
BUILD

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>>184172132
top kek.

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>>184145618
>>The Flood, First Strike, etc.

Are those even canon anymore?

>>184171901
War suit + Plated armor + Tank perk + blast vest = Armor

2 base shields from dragoon perk + Advanced Shield protocol + Shield battery + Barrier from Psi Op = shields

Literally just the class tree and some basic grimy stuff. The class is made to tank damage

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>>184172132

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>>184171713

>i'm growing stronger

>>184172476
I don't even have the +2 armor vest (fucking shieldbearers took forever to appear) yet so there's still 1+ armor to get

>>184171713
Could he 1v1 an Avatar?

>>184172132
did something like that happen last stream?
give timestamp

>>184172476
>grimy stuff
aka cheat mod

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poor advent

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>>184171713
well shit

>>184173335
Considering an Avatar can regenerate and his damage seems poor, no

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>>184173335
Please, Avatar doesn't stand a chance

>>184174034
Then how the fuck did he beat the fire nation?

>>>184071126
>There are three mysterious signals, the gift ships from the Well-Wisher, and a bit of lore about the intergalactic pantheon of gods that they worship in the future. The Well-Wisher's identity is implied by some of the things you find but their connection to the STC is ambiguous. One of the background factions on earth is implied to secretly be much more powerful than they appear and probably has something to do with it, based on one of the new zero-g satellite missions.
What does STC stand for?

I love piratez, it has the deepest lore.

>>184172340
>Are those even canon anymore?
Huh? The Flood is literally just CE in novel form, and Fall of Reach was pretty much the cornerstone of the lore back in the day. First Strike, on the other hand, I could live without. I'll admit I've been out-of-date since the studio switch, and never really cared about the Forerunner backstory (I preferred it when it was implied they were humanity's ancestors) but they better damn have not messed with *this*.

>>184173837
He loses about 7 shields if you remove grimy judging from >>184172476. The Dragoon might as well be a sectopod if you spec it full tank

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=794399943

>>184174525
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>>184174243
>STC
Demand: Immediate dissemination of all information regarding STC

>>184174525

Yes, Shadow OPs gets very OP by the end.

>>184174889
It's meant to be used with difficulty mods and such

>>184173837

It's a shame it's so unbalanced. I really like the idea of being able to mod any item.

>>184175930
Honestly that applies to the large majority of classes.

>>184176172
Use mod everything + remove equipment mods?

>>184176367
Does LW2 Perk Pack fuck with the balance a lot?

>>184174889
Please, nothing is "balanced" when it comes to xcom. Everything gets OP by the end game, the only way people seem to be able to counter balance it is to add shit tons of enemies

>>184176450
LW classes are more OP than the shadow ops classes.

>>184176450
>Does LW2 Perk Pack fuck with the balance a lot?

Yeah. You need their Alien pack as well to balance it out.

>>184176367

Mod everything is just a framework to allow weapon mods to be applied. It does not supply any unique upgrades for say gremlins and grenade launchers on its own.

>>184176558
>the only way people seem to be able to counter balance it is to add shit tons of enemies
and even then you just make the classes level up Even faster which allows them to access the late game abilities earlier in the game.

>>184176450
The Perk Pack classes are gamebreaking on Vanilla and even with something like ABA2 they are still a too strong.

>>184176703
The Alien pack is nowhere near hard enough to balance out the LWPP.

>>184177189
>you just make the classes level up Even faster which

Yep, and more enemies also means more corpses which gives you more black market supplies and more instant research.

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Bradford?

>download mods to create beautiful custom soldiers
>every fresh recruit now has fucked up limbs, colors and armor combinations
Every time
The menu setting do not help, I need a mod that forces any non-characterpool soldier to only roll vanilla armor pieces

>>184177385
You're going to wipe out a planned parenthood

>>184177369
Yep, it's really easy for it to spiral out of control.

>>184177189
>even with something like ABA2 they are still a too strong.
Nothing a couple more enemy mods can't fix.

>>184177705
>>184177189

Are you saying you want enemy mods for vanilla to be even harder?

>>184177843
I'm saying that ya'll need more celatids, pathfinders, bio troops and corrupt avatars in your lives.

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>>184173837
It's not a cheat mod, it's fun.
Removing timers/Avatar project or giving you +100 aim/damage is cheating. The intent behind mods defines if they are cheat mods or not.

>>184177843
Late game enemies need to be harder to counterbalance the stronger class mods. The Early game is fine as it is and I feel the midgame is when you should feel a increase in power in your troops only for advent to beat you down hard in the late game

>>184178039
>pathfinders
Great example of a enemy mod, they aren't gamebreaking but are hard enough to force you to adapt to deal with them.

>>184178039
>Enemy bloat

>receive brief window to counter +1 HP dark event
>decide it's not worth risking a squadwipe this late in the game
>allow event to complete
>next mission every enemy is left with 1 health

>>184178039
The celatid mod is pretty shit. Sure, I like the enemy, but they appear way too much.

>>184179931
They look really dumb imo. Mostly the fucking clitoris they have.

>>184180242
I'm fine with pink floating turds, I just want LESS of them.
I don't need 4 of them every mission. In a mostly vanilla game.

>>184180386
>I don't need 4 of them every mission
Oh man, it gets better with ABA2. It still does the thing where Celatids would make up two of the pods in a typical missions but since the pod sizes are larger there's gonna be more of those nigs. Fighting two pods at once is less of a challenge and more of a question of how many you can hit with a single flashbang. Doesn't help that their surprisingly high endurance (at least the t2 and 3 versions) adds up to form a bigger headache.

>>184180386
That's one thing I think long war did well was enemy variety. They're all dangerous.

>tfw alien facilities spawn in such a way that you're actually at risk of losing the campaign if you dont hurry the fuck up

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>wipe what I assume is the last pod off the map
>double time it to LZ
>cant switch out of the soldier I just moved

>>184183732
I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed that trick for detecting pods.

>>184183970
its even worse when the game noticeably lags, cuz that means 2 pods just activated

>>184183970
It's like a sixth sense.

>>184183970
Way better than EW/LW1 where you didn't know you activated until the move completed.

>>184183732
>no enemies visible
>move your concealed scout up to a window
>the game starts lagging

>suppress a stun lancer
>he dashes through it and tries to stun me
>Miss! 25%
So does the game not take into account that he's no longer suppressed after he's already made his attack?

>>184187617
perfect info is a little flaky on melee chances sometimes, could be that

>>184187617
I think the slash actually occurs before he moves, it's a bit fucked. This affects you too because it means you can use shadowstrike on sword attacks.

At one point, I had a bladestorm ranger light a lancer on fire just as he was attacking and, since fire prevents melee, the game freaked the fuck out due to some sort of paradox. Then the lancer fucking shot me

If I want to increase squad size, but don't want to ruin the balance, what are some good mods to accomplish that? Or is more enemies enough?

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>it's a "activate some 2 pods due to bullshit LOS and now my entire team's getting stunned by 4+ 8hp drones" episode
I hope you guys never experience this pain.

What's the best AI mod?

>>184190819

To my knowledge the best AI mods are integrated with bigger mods, so, LW2, AbA2 and maybe Spectrum(haven't played Spectrum myself so i dunno). There is as far as i know only 1 standalone AI mod, this one:

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=618390218&searchtext=AI

Actually i guess AbA also has a standalone AI one in case you don't use AbA 2:

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=671648634

That one was updated more recently so that one i guess.

>>184148078

I know that feel anon

Met a Brazillian qt on Instagram and we hit it off right away, we spent last Summer together in Greece while I coached Mountain Biking and she did belly dancing and yoga lessons. She went back home to study for Uni for the winter and now it's getting increasingly difficult for her to come over here like we planned to because the exchange rate just gets worse and worse. She was meant to travel here this month but it's getting farther and farther out. Shit sucks

WotC will be the next best thing though

>>184190819
I've used Improved AI for a long time and I've only noticed 3 major things
>Last enemy alive always books it to the nearest pod
>Enemies will shoot at the guy whose been pulled by a viper
>Sectoids use mindspin more often
Maybe I've just forgotten what normal AI tends to do but honestly it isn't that great, I'd try ABA

>>184190085

Well it sounds logical that if you increase your squad size you shoul also increase the alien's squad size.

>>184190085
It's already been discussed above that just adding more enemies in itself unbalances the game. You'd be better to get something like ABA2 and work with a 6-8 squad size

>>184191781
I get that. I was just wondering if there was anything else I could not be thinking of.

>>184192045
I don't want to run A Better Advent because I just want to run a few different added enemies instead of a complete overhaul.

I want to try a few custom classes, so I want to increase squad size to try them all, but I don't want to ruin the balance with default pod sizes either.

>>184192687
>I want to try a few custom classes
Which ones?

>>184192967
Infiltrator, Samurai, got modable pistols so pistol sharpshooters can be useful.

Excited to try the Alien Hunter class to finallt have soneone who can use the Boltcaster without seeming like it's a direct downgrade.

Then I've already been using some Grimy's classes and Escalation's class pack. So my squads feel really small whwn I have 12+ classes/ class builds I want to play in one playthrough

Is the Plasma hunter rifle missing a graphic with stocks on purpose?

>>184193907
Get the faceoff ammo fix if you plan on using the infiltrator

>>184193907
>So my squads feel really small whwn I have 12+ classes/ class builds I want to play in one playthrough

See it more like you got more options and decisions to make for your squad.
And an opportunity to make different squads you can make and have them actually have unique strengths.

>>184194283
>Get the faceoff ammo fix

Will do, thanks.

>>184194306
Ehh, I'm not playing LW2, and I prefer to keep squads as intimate as I can for that "crack squad saving the world" feeling.

>>184194709
Ehh, I'm not playing LW2, and I prefer to keep squads as intimate as I can for that "crack squad saving the world" feeling.

Always good to have something to fallback to in case of terrible luck.

>Aced my first alien facility
Maybe I will conquer legendary before WOTC drops.
If not this run, then the next.

>>184183683
I appreciate your edit

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What are some good alternatives to LW Perk Pack? I find them a bit overpowered and I've used it a bit too much

>>184195405
Try Paragon or Shadow Ops? Honestly there isn't much class overhaul mods

What happens if you miss a VIP mission with a captured soldier?

>>184196612
The timers are pretty generous honestly

>>184196612
The timers and avatar timers are pretty generous tho.

>>184196612
>explore the content
What the fuck does that even mean? They want to go on a fucking tour around the map?

>>184196612
I honestly agree with his sentiment, but the timer is so forgiving on the Doom Clock there is no way you can actually feel rushed by it.

Forced extraction mission turn timers can fuck themselves though. If the in game explanation is "to many Advent show up," that's bullshit when your literal supersoldiers are tearing through dozens of enemies a mission already. They could have at least had them appear on the tactical layer rather than just ending the mission on turn zero.

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>berzerker
>camera earthquake bug
>annoying.jpg
>oh well I'll just ignore it
>don't feel like loading back into the mission
>throw flashbang to blind zerker
>screenshake
>*MISS*
>Zerker smacks my highest ranked ranger for 7 dmg

>>184197161
At least in Wotc they're tweaking the timers a bit so that it only starts counting down when you break out on concealment on some missions ( not sure if thats true for all mission types)

>>184197256
Didn't they say that's a Reaper faction bonus though, not default?

>>184197256
You mean the second wave option that doubles mission timers?

>>184197342
Pretty sure its for everyone, they went and mimic the true concealment mod but the only news I've seen about that was like a 3 min IGN video 3 weeks ago so I'm not that sure about it.

>>184197232

Shaky Beserker Camera Fix mod which is by Robojumper (I think)

he also made one to fix the fucking lift sound in the Avenger

>>184197473
>>184197342
>>184197256
I thought that was just some of the new mission types

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Post yfw
>Destroy Alien Relay

>>184197256
>>184197342

I honestly use the true concealment mod anyway. It balances out those times when you can't seem to find any pod and spend 4 turns on the timer looking for them, and those other times when there's a civilian behind that corner that reveals your whole squad on your first move and you suddenly have to scramble (because true concealment lowers the base timer).

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>>184197567
>Protect the Relay

>>184197514
Thanks, *MISSED* that as well somehow.

>>184197537
I believe it's for every guerrilla op, I mean it kinda makes sense to some degree since you could set up more properly.
>>184197458
No, like true concealment

>>184197745
Fuck, I hate it when I don't read the objective and I try to blow it up but then finding out you're supposed to hack it like a dumbass.

>You move once and aggro the entire map

>>184198127
>First time using Icarus armor.

>>184198127
That's supply raid baby!

>>184198127
>You move and get revealed by a collaborator who as leaning against a lamp post

>>184194283

>Is the Plasma hunter rifle missing a graphic with stocks on purpose?

Do you mean there an "image errror" thing somewhere? Or that there is no picture for the stock? Because the answer is no to both but a picture would be useful.

>>184197537
>>184197458
>>184197473
>>184197342
>>184197256

It's all of the above as far as i know.

There is a second wave option that extends timers.
There is a Reaper thing that gives you True Concealment.
There are NEW missions where timers work differently, the existing missions aren't changed.

>>184198680
Any other details on the new second wave?

>>184198502
There is no image icon for the stock and there is no model for the stock appearing on the weapon, I'll post a picture after this mission

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>>184198989

Oh, the Stock is very, uh, minimalistic(shitty) it's pretty much just a pad stuck on the back end of the rifle.

But yeah you are right, there is no picture in the inventory, i'll fix it soonish. I'm trying to finish a secret project so i've been putting off updating the mod with fixes.

>>184198958

Don't remember, to be honest i didn't even remember that one until i read that post. I think Jake just made a passing comment about it at E3. I do remember he also said that you could choose how long a campaign lasts though.

>>184199360
Ah, I see. Looking forward to this "secret project" considering how good all your other stuff is

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>August 6th
>still have yet to activate avatar project despite liberating 1 region so far with a 2nd about to be liberated the end of September
Should I just restart? I was doing so well until I realized LW2 RNG just didn't like my campaign.

>>184199504

It's nothing big, it's a collaborative project and i was just asked to make something, the only reason it has taken so long is because i'm using it as an excuse to try some new things.

My next Advent mod will probably be more interesting, but i also don't want to say anything about that because i'm not sure i can even get it to work like i want.

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>>184199360
>>184199617
>the forward part of that gun
>open space between two rails
>has a Tier 3/Beam-like design
You making a railgun mod? Because if so nice. I don't see myself updating my railgun mod, hell I don't even see myself modding in general. Just lost interest. Good luck!

>>184200070

No that's just the T3 version of the Hunter Rifles from my Advent Pathfinders mod.

>>184200798
Got it.
>>184200605
Looks good.

What tier of the pathfinder enemies drop the new items? Chosen?

>>184201148

Research Tier 1 for Ultralight Vest and Conventional Hunter Rifle(the rest you get with just mag and plasma research)
Tier 2 guys give you nothing.
Tier 3 gives Smart Scanners and Proximity Stun Mines.
Tier 4 gives Smart Scanners mk2 and Terror Rounds.

>>184201305
Thanks, do they just drop the items or is their multiple tiers of autopsies?

>>184201397

Multiple tiers of autopsies, and the Tier 4 autopsies require that you have completed the previous ones, Terror rounds requires all autopsies. They also require multiple corpses, i might change this a bit, will definitively change in the LW2 version. But i don't have any substantial plans for "balance", but i'll probably make the ultralight vest harder to get. Maybe nerf the smart scanners a bit, i don't know.

>>184201504
Make the ultralight vest a tier 2 item maybe? +3 mobility is gamechanging in the early game after

>>184201690

Yeah i'm thinking move it to T2 so you get something from T2 and make it more expensive so you don't put it on all your guys. Maybe i could also make it require plated armor but that might be too much.

And i'll probably put a longer cooldown on the Mk2 Smart Scanner and nerf the crit bonuses from the normal Smart scanner a bit.

>>184201690
>>184202290
That would make the base pathfinder not give anything remember

Do we know if WotC adds new map and parcels and such?

>>184202642

Yes, it comes with multiple new tilesets, we've seen at least 3 so far, old city, underground tunnels and some kind of alienish looking forest.

>>184202642
Yes. City parcels, factory parcels, other new parcels. I think some underground parcels? New parcels.

>>184202642
Yes

>>184202706
>>184202724
>>184202725
Nice, thanks. Guess I'll be disabling the map pack mods.

>>184136378

Hot-Damn anon, I like this a lot - is this for an early generation of the Advent Armor?

>>184136281
>>184135808

We need more classic map parcels and PCP's

>>184199360
>>184200605

Hot damn, the sooner we get more late-game guns the better. Now we have some decent tier-3 armor mods (Warden, Stenchfury and the other set I can't remember the name too) we need more original guns, we have mercenary plasma, long war laser/coil (for original, fuck long war 2) we just need more options that aren't ported from other games.

Along these lines, I wonder if the new guns from WOTC are usable by other classes? (The autopistol bullpup and stalker-rifle) because that would be awesome as hell.

Also, time to shill myself while I'm here -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tn1bkFlPMHc

In today's episode of Openxcom/XcomFiles I finally use templates, quote Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas and generally make a bit of a tit out of myself.

This is the last of my pre-recorded content so everything after this episode will be recorded the day before release (if I can get away with it with my kids being on holiday for the summer) so anyone who gives me comments and input on my play through will no longer have to wait a week to see if I finally pay attention to it.

>>184203340

>Along these lines, I wonder if the new guns from WOTC are usable by other classes? (The autopistol bullpup and stalker-rifle) because that would be awesome as hell.

They are all humanoids, so all those weapons will be usable by any normal soldier or Advent. I mean with mods of course, i'm sure in vanilla WOTC they are exclusive to their respective classes.

Is there a mod that removes the experience gate of only one promotion per mission?

>>184204105
Yes

>>184204169
Let me rephrase.

I assume there is one, but what is it called?

>>184204226
No Rank Up Throttling

Is there a mod that adds the Long War perks to the game without re-writing the base classes or adding the LW classes?

I see a bunch of custom classes that require the LW perk pack, but I don't really want all those extra classes.

Last mission in xcom 2 was easy because it had no time limit.
>Cross a bridge and suddenly enemies spawning out the ass
>Run back across the bridge and overwatch everybody
>They chase you into the meat grinder

>>184208459
Yeah, the last mission is weird. You either go forward into the boss arena, which is so big the Avatars lead you on a wild goose chase, or you go backwards into the rooms before and channel everyone down one or two choke points. Bring a sniper sharpshooter and you can plink at the Avatars safely while everyone else bombs the spawns.

I thought we were in fucking august.

I was convinced War of the Chawsen would come out today, what the fuck.

>>184197101

To be fair, some of the maps look pretty cool and some have their own sounds that you can only hear if you are way zoomed in.

In timed missions you have to rush right around them.

>>184209183
Your desires interfered with your sense of time.

>>184209183
Same thing happened to me.

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>>184209373
>>184209323
>>184209183

TIME ITSELF SHALL BEND TO MY WILL! THE BLESSINGS I HAVE BEEN FAVORED WITH ALLOW ME TO MEME YOU TO DEATH!

ded beangle
ded thread

>>184209183
>protect the relay on commander
>2 of the toughest pods spawn literraly on top of it (andromedon pod and eavy mec pod)
>only have 2 majors rest captain or lower, and only plasma rifles and warden
>still wipe 2 fucking archon pods in the first 2 turns
>ayys calls for reinforcemtn and transmitter already less than half hp
>going anywhere near the transmitter, even ignoring the reinforcments activates the 2 pods and unless i kill them ALL right there and then (with quite a few abilities still on cd from the previous pods) they just bumrush that shit in 1 turn and kill it, and even THEN i still have reinfrocments dropped up my ass
>only made it because 2 hail marry hacks/ domination on the mec and andromedon, and the relay still only had 2 hp left

That was bullshit. If any of those mind controlls failed, it would have been literraly impossible to do it, and i was at the relay in 3 fuking turns, blasting though 2 pods already

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>>184213089
>implying XCOM isn't a game of CLUTCH

>>184213089
>implying you don't play the game for situations like that

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>>184213632
>>184214051
It is usualy fun, but i'm way less salty if i got myslef into a 3 pod activation, and not forced into it

>>184207880
I'm assuming that the Long War Perk Wpack will allow that with some ini editing.

>>184207880
Grab a mod that allows you to activate and deactivate classes

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>>184213632
>Shinobi clutch build made in LWPP doesn't work in LW2 because they don't get Death from Above there

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>UFO mission
>find archon ruler inside ship
>okay he is low HP, whatever
>he flies to my nearest soldier, grabs him and FUCKING NO CLIPS THROUGH THE ROOF
>Then he smashes my soldier on the roof of the UFO
>proceeds to barrage my soldiers inside the ship

I never hit the load game button so fucking fast

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>>184215472

>>184215472
I'm about to face him now, let's see if he breaks the great wall

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Is Siege guy still here? Or is he too busy porting over more Siege stuff to give an update to his fans?

I miss you Siege guy, please import more Siege stuff. My soldiers still aren't tacticool enough.

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>>184215659
Typical Archon King, Managed to do 2 shield damage to Julian with devastate before trying to run away like a bitch.

>>184216470
Just occurred to me that incoming! from an officer would make devastate less threatening

Whar are some good map mods?

>glue an ass onto a sectoid
Why did based bubs think that was a good idea?

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>>184219806
because unlike JCLewis he has actual talent

>spiritual guide
every time

>>184153608
I just cheat there. I'm playing to have fun, not to try and wrangle with a badly implemented if conceptually interesting system hacked onto a GUI that wasn't designed for it.

>>184159051
Very situational. Useful for grenadiers and shinobi.

Kinda useful for Technicals. But Technicals should honestly be rifle-specced flamers.

>>184219806

Refer to

>>184220409

CapnBubs made the Muton Elite and the Hive Queen, you know, the ones that look good.

>>184220813
I wish he would release more accessories.

>>184220409
JCLewis is definitely a lot more competent at making low tech stuff than high tech stuff.

>>184220409
A lot of those JC did look good though

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Mod that makes random generated soldiers only roll vanilla armor pieces, colors and voices when?

>>184221290
This maybe?
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=857445962

>>184221504
Thanks, this one looks interesting
Doesn't seem to fix my main gripe however, and that is that rookies always end up with broken armor combinations

>>184221290
Getting a bunch of armless circus freaks with strange accents is the best part of gatecrasher though.

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Guess what happened here

>>184224179
Archon King?

>>184224179
you didn't break los

>>184224417
>>184224292

I agrooed 12 enemies in a single turn

One gatekeeper
2 Sectoids
9 advent units (troopers, captains and a mec)

>>184221793
This works pretty well for me, basically ensures all rookies have Vanilla armor unless you customise yourself.
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=767471263&searchtext=realitymachina

>>184225050
So 1 pod in a swarming mission?

>>184198127

>Move two tiles forward to get a simple flank shot
>Reveal two pods through the split of a door frame to another interior door frame to a distant window, aka on the other side of a building
>Get assfucked

Thanks