/hsg/ - Hearthstone general

>>184132585
reminder to not reply to blackstar

>>184132680
or any of the imposters

>tfw only 2 priest reveals

Reminder to stop replying to the tripfag.

Friendly reminder that the Princes have inflated draw-rates.

Real Thread

>>184132687

>>184132717
Fake black-star, the exclamation marks give you away.

>>184132585
This is so broken! I want to make this deck!

monthly reminder that allie > lleuca > cora > pathra

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>>184132750
>mfw people still won't filter

>>184132801
Yours was linked later, fuck you

What Dreadsteed nerfs are you talking about?

People are really underestimating how strong Lifesteal is

>>184133172
It was nerfed to Wild you fucking newfag

>>184133172
they make him spawn after the end of the term rather than immediately

It will be really hard getting multiple copies now

Could reno priest see play some more play? I feel like the 2 priest cards are definitely good enough to see 1-of play, and the AOE one is good healing and damage to keep you alive against aggro

Post ratings for
>Snowflipper Penguin
>Shadowblade
>Defile
>Cryostasis
>Moorabi
>Eternal Servitude
>Doomed Apprentice
>Prince Valanar
>Dead Man's Hand
>Spreading Plague
>Frost Lich Jaina/Icy Hand

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>priest gets his quest card
>just fucking forgets to play it i guess?

>>184133316
>Snowflipper Penguin
2/5
>Shadowblade
3/5
>Defile
4/5
>Cryostasis
0/5
>Moorabi
0/5
>Eternal Servitude
4/5
>Doomed Apprentice
1/5
>Prince Valanar
0/5
>Dead Man's Hand
3/5
>Spreading Plague
5/5
>Frost Lich Jaina/Icy Hand
0/5

>>184133235
Hi there.
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Now, there's no need to thank me - I'm just doing my bit to help you get used to the anonymous image-board culture!

Paladin Hero Card ability leaked
Summon a 1/1 undead silver hand recruit with deathrattle: summon a 1/1 shambling remains

>>184133316
dust,dust, dust, dust, dust, dust,dust,dust,dust,dust,dust

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why would they nerf dreadsteed just to prevent interactions with defile when its
1. only usable in wild
2. worse than wild pyro + equality in every situation without divine shields

I admit that I dont play wild but I really dont see how it would break the format in any way

>>184133789
It draws the game instantly anon

>>184133789
Because the "defile" animation would never end

>>184133789
it literally breaks the game, as in it creates an infinite loop. not just making an OP combo or anything

>>184133789
no fun allowed

>>184133789
It would literally be a never-ending loop and your turn wouldn't end. Are you retarded?

Also, how is this a "nerf" to Dreadsteed? What does it matter if it is summoned at the end of the turn? The only downside is that you can't kill a dreadsteed and then Argus it or sacpac it. The upside is that you can actually have some board space to play something else--a real issue in some dreadsteed decks.

Overall your post is balls

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>>184133925
>>184133948
>>184133956
that makes sense. please be patient I have autism

>>184133789
>>184133925
>>184133948
>>184133956
>>184133962
Why not just put in a bit of code that makes defile stop triggering if there are only dreadsteeds on the board or something?

>>184133789
their engineers aren't good enough to have the spell stop triggering once 7 steeds are on board

>>184134040
>>184134045
>>184133962
holy shit this sub is actually retarded

how is it possible to play enough hearthstone to justify spending time in a hearthstone forum without even grasping the basic mechanics of the game

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>>184134183

>>184134183
>sub

>Dead man's hand

Too bad it gets introduced when Mill isnt played

>>184133316
>Snowflipper Penguin
3/10, It's Beast Wisp. Not the worst.
>Shadowblade
5/10, might have potential
>Defile
7/10, Dreadsteed died for this, but tokens get btfo
>Cryostasis
1/10
>Moorabi
2/10, has potential based on not shown cards, but probably still shit
>Eternal Servitude
7/10
>Doomed Apprentice
3/10
>Prince Valanar
0/10
>Dead Man's Hand
7/10, Fedora Warrior's new tool
>Spreading Plague
8/10, it's good
>Frost Lich Jaina/Icy Hand
2.5/10, Extremely slow and 1 damage ping is unimpressive that late

Aside from Valanar, all can be improved with proper support.

>>184134040
A better solution would be to stop if the board is identical after the last cast.
I guess the code is too spaghetti to handle this.

>>184134040
or just not resolve deathrattles while defile is in progress

I really hope that they are going for some kind of Exodia approach with Princes of Piss and Shit and are going to reveal something that will make then at least decent, otherwise they are wasting a decent idea on free ten pack leggo fodder.

>>184134040
That's be too much work man.

>>184134349
1 mana 1/1 Legendary

Always starts in your opening hand. Battlecry: If your deck contains no other 1-cost cards, draw the other Princes.

Would it see play?

>>184134485
too consistent for hearthstone
instant tier 0 deck

>>184134485
probably not outside of memes

You are giving up all of your early game class cards for mediocre effects. That's not even a really good curve of minions.

>>184134485
Would be broken if that happened.

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heh, greetings

>>184133789
>2. worse than wild pyro + equality in every situation without divine shields
What does this have to do with anything?

It's a warlock card.

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>>184133789
Wait, how dreed steed was nerfed?

>>184134485
yes because drawing the 2 mana prince on 2 is actually insane and its inconsistency makes it balanced or bad rather

>>184134657
what the fuck is a tripcode

>>184134983
it only respawns at the end of the turn now

not even really nerf, just a change

>>184134983
it only brings back a dreadsteed at the end of turn
no more fun, refill the board with dredsteel combos

>>184134025
> What does it matter if it is summoned at the end of the turn?
It's nerfed dreed mayor strategy, where you fill the board with them and hope that enemy will never lucky enough to clear.

Next reveal stream when?

>>184134983
It was moved to wild

>lose 10 1:6 brawls in a row

>>184135028
>>184134689
>>184134629
How about this

Battlecry: If your deck contains no other 1-cost cards, and contains the other 3 Princes, draw the Princes

So you'd have to have no other 1, 2, 3, or 4 drops. And the 3 cost prince is bad on curve since you'd just be making a vanilla 3/3 essentially. Even though the opener would be consistent I think a deck with such a high curve would be pretty vulnerable to aggro.

I'm really scared spreading plague will make jade druid better against aggro. Jade struggles against aggro but shits on control. If it can slow aggro enough it could easily turn into the best deck in the meta.

is it safe to dust ozruk?

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> it's another to slow to be played card for priest

>>184135616
Soggoth priest will reign

>>184134485

>t1: Play a 1/1
>t2: Play a 2/2 that gives everyone in your deck +1/+1
>t3: Play a 3/3 that cant benefit from the buff because he transforms into a 3/3 copy anyway
>t4: Play a 4/4 taunt lifesteal

Someone stop this madman

>>184135580
yes

>>184135616
it might be okay if you have a radiant on the board.

How many packs do I need to buy to stop having statistically improbable shit RNG

>>184135208
December.

>>184135131
>no more mortal coil into sact pact turns

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Bladefury died for this.

>>184136048
>DESIGN SPACE

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>enemy has a full board
5 mana : Summon 7 1/5 Taunt Beasts

>>184135918
________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________git gud_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

>>184136503
this is great against token druid

oh wait

>>184135918
RNG is RNG.

>>184136503
>it's another give the counter to the same class that board floods

reminder that blizz unironically had 7 dks that no one knows about and they chose the 1 that leaked a week ago

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Bravo Brode

>draft y'shaarj
>only got to play him 3 times
feels bad, hes my new favorite card but the only deck with him is so expensive

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> play thalnos
> 2 mana flamestrike
BRACE YOURSELF
THE CANCER IS COMING

>>184136764
I predict Reddit on launch day being flooded with angry preorder cucks who opened this or the 3 mana or 2 mana one

>>184136831
It would be 4 mana.

>>184134774
>use dead man's hand with another one in your hand
>never get fatigued
Control warrior might make a come back, maybe not so much without justicar, but this could be annoying. Hell people might actually run iron hide along with bring it on and this card to constantly gain armor.

>>184136831
after thalnos dies it would only deal 1 damage. so it's more like a 4 mana hellfire at minimum

>>184136764
no wonder they stopped the dupe legendary shit, imagine unpacking multiples of the princes

>>184136841
3 mana isn't even that bad, you can setup some meme combos with it like PT+SS+BoTa into PT into FO.

>>184137002
well, at least you only can get disappointed 3 times, well for the princes at least

>>184137098
>1000+ cards
>abbreviating card names

>>184137002
don't worry you'll still open one of each

>>184133316
>Snowflipper Penguin
1/5. It's bad
>Shadowblade
3/5. It's like a Fiery war axe but worse
>Defile
4/5. Looks good in the paper and really strong with spell damage
>Cryostasis
3/5. I can only see it used to buff your own taunts or some extremly especific freeze
>Moorabi
2/5. 6 Mana 4/4 is too low, and the effect isn't good enough, but who knows
>Eternal Servitude
4/5. Looks like a good option in any most decks, Consistently reviving good minions for 4 looks pretty good
>Doomed Apprentice
1/5. Looks Useless in curve and the effect isn't enough in the late game
>Prince Valanar
0/5. Not even need to explain
>Dead Man's Hand
3.5/5. Not 4/5 because Jade druid exists. You can control what goes to your deck, so it will be mostly good cards
>Spreading Plague
3/5. Sinergy with the leggo and seems like a good defense even versus rly face decks (Innervate in Turn 3/2)
>Frost Lich Jaina/Icy Hand
3.5/5. If you already have a board you can heal like 10 in the turn you played it, If not more. So, considering you have a board advantage or both players have a board it will work to not die
The power looks good, you mostly use the ping when you know that it will die, and you get a free 3/6 lifesteal

>>184136764
>tfw this is officially the worst legendary in the game

>>184137002
and they doubled the amount of legos
HAHHAHAHHAHAHHA

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>>184137354
ahem.

Frost Lich Jaina will be very powerful considering mages have no problem bullshitting their way through at least 3 ice blocks per game

It will be used as a finisher in the meme mage deck instead of medivh

Barclay #11605 [NA]

First one to add gets 80g quest.

>>184137590
millhouse is not that bad on curve unless you're playing a druid and he has nourish in hand

>>184137590
This one can be good if you know they dont have any spells or if you want to bait them.

Great against Warriors, Paladin and Druids.

>>184135278
>TGT

>>184137774
>play it against druid
>wild growth
>jade blossom
>nourish for cards
>wild growth
>jade blossom
>nourish for cards
>wrath millhouse twice
Spectacular!

>>184137656
but medivh is plain better

>>184133789
>Literally, unironicially nerfing a card so your shitty card in a shitty expansion can be played in wild versus it

Seriously suck a cock blizzard.

>>184137354
It isn't that bad there are decks that skip 4 drops, like quest rogue, control warrior or token druid on top of my head.

>>184133316
Fuck your ratings. A number is meaningless. Go watch Trump.
>Penguin
Can be considered in token druid.
>Shadowblade
Impossible to say. Looks good.
>Defile
At most 1 of in non-Zoolocks.
>Cryo
shit
>Moorabi
Utter trash.
>Servitude
The first controllable resurrect effect. It might be very good, but their reluctance to make it controllable in previous iterations tells me that the cost is tested enough for it to not be good.
>Apprentice
Garbage. If it was a 2 mana 2/2, it would be okay.
>Valanar
Hahahaha, no.
>DMH
Pay 2 mana, lose card advantage and probably the game.
>Plague
Seems very balanced.
>FL Jaina
Don't know if elemental mage will be good, but I'll try it. I really like it.

what dreadsteed nerf? link?

>>184137947
And still not as bad as being memed out of cards by the princes. The princes happen 100% of the time

Millhouse is bad 50% of the time at worst

>>184138028
kek it wouldn't be playable even if it didn't have the no 4 drop requirement

>finally get rogue in arena
>have to choose a deck that has 14 4 or lower cards

3 journeys though

>>184138243
I'd rather put a prince in my deck without fulfilling its condition than millhouse. At least a 2 mana 2/2 on 2 doesn't lose you the game immediately half of the time.

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WIIIIINDS
OBEY MY COMMAND

i just thought of a sick combo for warrior. you make a deck with a ton of spells. then you play that 1/3 that pings your minions, arcane giant, arcane giant, sudden genises, and blood warriors. then you have a 1/3 and 4 8/7s and a hand with 4 8/8s. it will probably never work but it sounds cool.

>>184138279
> what is taunt
> what is lifelink
This is how you spot the shieldbear

>>184138439
>no charge
no point anon

>>184138439
If this becomes popular then priest becomes a higher tier.

>>184138386
What are you complaining about?

It's on the heavy side, but if you have taunts and removal, it can work fine.

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> Mage got OP as fuck hero card
> Hunter legendaries still unplayable garbage
This is how you know Brode's favourite class.

>>184138974
>yfw secret hunter ends up being a t1 deck and elemental mage sees no play

>>184138879
I got like 2 removal cards and a couple of tauns, I have no way to deal with any high cost minions

>>184138439
>ping
>excuse me, you are on fire
How scary

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>>184138974
>9 mana
>1 damage hero power

It's not even close to being even remotely viable. It's 9 mana, do nothing.

>>184139043
Permanent lifesteal on all elementals is being massively underrated

After this is played you have to trade with every elemental the mage play because going face results in nothing since the mage will just heal up the damage.

>>184138974
>> Mage got OP as fuck hero card
LOL?????

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>>184138439
nothin personel kid

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why is this allowed

>>184139486
whats wrong?

>>184139486
Because twitch enables it.

>>184139486
and they won't let dog be shirtless

discrimination

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>>184138974
>this
>op
name 1 value matchup that benefits from having increased healing that mages dont already win. This is a defensively valued card with a nine (9) mana cost with an extremely situational hero power. You cant even call it strong against aggressive decks because in any game where you can both reach turn 9 and afford to make a 5.5ish mana play for 9 mana for a relatively minor long term benefit you have already won.

>>184139343
mages can afford to play 9 mana do nothing because le ebin le ice block

>>184139486
would love to see her get blacked

Someone make a picture of Valanar but replace Valanar with 400 dust

when will they reveal all the cards?

>>184139486
eh her voice is disgusting

>>184140029
Can't wait until all you retards would be proven wrong and card end up being meta defining.

>>184139486
I miss own3d.tv

>>184140323
How? There is literally no feasible way such a shit card could be good. It has worse stats than Yeti with the condition that you can't have an other 4 mana cards, every class has a vital card at 4 mana pretty much. For being unable to have that in your deck your get the ability to make this shitty stat minion heal you maybe 8 health before dying.

>beat down quest at 60/100
>figure I can do one arena match
>druid starts to heal himself
That was close. 4 more damage and I would've completed the quest. Good thing he conceded.

>>184140323
Fuck man these prince cards are so bad that I unironically agree with you. I know some pinoy streamer is going to find some broken combo with one of them

>>184138153
>DMH
>Pay 2 mana, lose card advantage and probably the game.

How so? All it does it copy your entire hand and add it to you deck.
It doesn't take any cards away from you, so how exactly does it cause you to lose card advantage?

>>184140323
Whatever meme condition that comes from having all the princes has to be absolutely renotier for the card to be worth it

As is it's only above curseblade

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>>184138974
Here, just __4you_

>>184140323
Only single way that can work is if they give us an Exodia like effect when you have all Princes in your hand or Play all the princes

Finally there are cards that are actually more difficult to evaluate. Defile is something you'd really need to see in play.

>>184132585
>people think this is bad

Card is fine desu. Grindy control mages have been a thing in the past and could be again, beats control warrior better than freeze mage at the very least.

It will depend a lot on the meta but if there's good reason to play control mage this will be in it. It'd be shit without the hero power but with it it's fine.

>>184140867
Thalnos defile is pretty destructive
But fuck discolock.
We need Handlock back
WE NEED JARAXXUS BACK

>>184140572

Only way I can see the Prince card design not being totally fucking retarded is if they reveal a legendary that has an amazing battlecry that is dependent on you playing a Prince card earlier in the game, but knowing Blizzard that probably isn't the case.

>>184140819
>8 mana Prince Arthas: If you have activated all of the prince cards this game become Prince Arthas setting your hp to 40. Hero power 2mana summon Tirion Fordring

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>>184140984
Thalnos just dies after the first tick. This here is the real boss.

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What do i pick?

Haven't played much Warlock but I'll try it out with the new set if something other that gayzoo seems viable

>>184141305
Steed

>>184141305
Steed is SSS tier

>>184140995
I feel like we're not seeing something yet. What 4 drops get run in this current meta? I think Prince Cuatro (4) might have the best shot of making it

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>>184140984
Handlock will return, it doesn't run 2 cost drops and will be greatly buffed by the best Prince.

>>184140593
Because you're spending DMH, the card itself to do it? That puts you at a card disadvantage to put cards in your deck. That's the most pointless thing ever in 99% of cases. You don't have ways to search your deck for specific cards in Hearthstone, besides some really fringe shit like Warden. It's really fucking bad and a noob trap.

>>184141305
Steed or cleaver. They're both about as good, but since frost festival shitters think weapon destruction is as good as in constructed, I'd probably go with steed.

>>184141106
i like the way you think anon

>>184141485
Doomsayer

>>184141485
You won't even have defile if you run this

>>184141485
Greenpill me on Keleseth

>>184141305
It isn't known as Rigged Steed for anything.

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They really want to make wallet fatigue warrior a thing again.

>>184141485
Doomsayer boi

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It's over. Hearthstone is finished.

how do you play this?
>enemy always have better cards

>>184136976
>Control warrior might make a come back
no fatigue deck can exist until jade druid is gone

>>184140676
>DK
Donkey Kong?!

>>184141697
with this card not only can it be wallet warrior

it can be reno wallet warrior duplicating reno and other crucial cards

>>184141697
time to play n'zoth 5 times

>>184141697
Wild control taunt warrior that now no longer fatigues with justicar and free ragnaros as a finisher
Im so glad I saved up a fuck ton of dust

>>184141802
What's the tier list of My Little Pony?

>>184132585
>The art is real
What the fuck? You show off a Jaina in the big preview that looks like a spellsword corpse with a mess of purple hair in the front wearing a fucked up version of her outfit..
And then you make a totally different one for her actual card art? What the fuck.
>The Hero Power is real
WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT GARBAGE?

>>184141697
> shuffle elisa pack
greeings

>>184141697
Nzoth Quest Fatigue Warrior
IMAGINE
THE
HEH, GREETINGS

>>184140676
Not bad, this is almost the same in Hearthstone right now. That mage lever is beautiful, why does Blizzard love mages so much?

>>184141816
Just get both your acolytes and dead man's hands with some removal in your dead man's hands. The druid will eventually be only playing only a single jade idol a turn which you execute every turn while hitting him in the face.

>>184141802
>jam session

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anzpsvfBrzw

>>184142034
>What the fuck? You show off a Jaina in the big preview that looks like a spellsword corpse with a mess of purple hair in the front wearing a fucked up version of her outfit..
>And then you make a totally different one for her actual card art? What the fuck.
Card art is much better to be honest. Promo art looks like hot garbage.

>>184141802
I bet it is more complex than Hearthstone

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>>184141802
I'd play it. When you're capable of playing Hearthstone you can play pretty much any card game.

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>>184142116
Mage was the third worst class in msog though.

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Seeing posts about Control warrior making a comeback due to Dead Man's Hand of all cards and that it might also be good in Reno Warrior reminds me of why I stopped visiting this several times in the past. You're all rank 20 shitters.
>a card that does nothing but put cards in your deck that isn't Jade Idol is good

>>184142323
>Renomage was bad

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I think this card has potential for fun meme decks at least. It's a shame that gadgetzan ferryman is a two drop because it would be fun to give all minions in your deck a +4/4 with shadowstep.
There has to be some sort of synergy with the Grimy Goons but I can't imagine taking out Hunter or Warrior's 2 drops.

>>184142323
>warlock

>>184142389
That card singlehandedly can destroy any deck besides Jade idol combined with Quest and Nzoth

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>>184142389
I love the rank 30 theorycrafting that you find on Reddit during reveal season.

>wow this will be awesome in control hunter
>combo lock is back baby!
>this + obscure card from 2 expansion ago + other garbage card from new expac = new meta
>muh control meta

pic related, typical Reddit user.

>>184142704
>reddit spacing

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Priest is the high IQ class. Prove me wrong.

Mage is the brainlets savior.

>>184142806
They're both basically the same thing

>>184142806
muh muh value

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> free body on turn 1
Token Druid is back, baby

>>184142651
Hahahahahahaha. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

>>184142389
It really depends on what you use it in hand with.

If you have just a legendary or whatever in hand plus this card it's a pretty cheap way to copy crucial cards.

>>184142486
t2 deck, and the only deck mage had.

Blizzard's pet class in hearthstone is warrior. Not sure how everyone managed to forget that so soon.

>>184142984
Nice try, Jaina. Warrior was never good or broken.

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SHOW ME WHAT YOU GOT

>>184142806
>still won't let us have the tyrande skin again
fucking please blizzard

>>184142958
Not an argument.

>>184142984
>Blizzard's pet class in hearthstone is warrior.
What about Shaman though? People say it was shit before, but it's been consistently up there with warrior since Old Gods (probably earlier too, but that's when I started playing.)

>>184142806
>Mage
>Hurr random mage spells

>Priest
>Hurr random everything

>>184143091
I've never seen a meta where Warrior wasn't one of the top classes. When was Garrosh ever worse than "good"?

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>>184143091
Warrior has literally never been bad, and reached full obnoxious level when dragon warrior was a thing. Did people already forget about 2 mana 3/3 with charge?

>>184143173
Shaman was really shit before, so they deserved their time in the light.

>>184142967
It doesn't fucking matter in almost all games. The only way this card does anything is if you go to fatigue or are so fucking lucky to put that 1 specific card back in your deck like a Reno for example and draw it again before you lose and granted that you haven't won yet. Cards that are in your deck and not in your hand are absolutely irrelevant. You're throwing away 2 mana and card advantage to put cards effectively in the bottom of your deck(that's how a specific card that is in your deck should be valued, by how good is it in the bottom of your deck).

I am actually running out of words to explain just how abysmally horseshit Dead Man's Hand is and am still laughing at anyone giving that card any value.

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> cast again
So... Is it +7 spells to Yogg counter?

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What is the absolute worst card? In both standard and wild. A card so bad, that having it in your deck actually makes it more likely for you to lose.

>>184143163
Good. I was just laughing at your stupidity. The arguments have already been made in the thread. If you don't understand why DMH is terrible, then you fundamentally don't understand the value of any number of cards in your deck vs 1 card in your hand.

>>184143091
>Warrior was never good or broken.
AHAHAAH WHO GOES THARR IMINCHARGE NOW
And dragon warrior

>>184143615
Majordomo

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>>184143468
I'm assuming it casts the spell maximum twice, otherwise Defile would cause an infinite loop in Wild.

>>184143645
Give a fucking reason why that is terrible rather than sperging anon.
With Quest Warrior that card has top tier possibilities

>>184143615
cursed blade

if you had a 5 mana 0/1 give your opponent cursed blade i'd put it in every deck

>>184143683
And probably even worse (at least in tournaments)

>CHARGE FORWARD
>MA BLADE BE THIRSTY
>A FIGHT, COUNT ME IN
>EVERYONE GET IN EVERYONE HERE GET IN HERE GET EVERYONE IN HERE
>I STRIKE

>>184143683
Yeah those are your big examples of broken warrior. Not EVERYONE GET IN HERE, MY BLADE IS THURST, *WW NOISES*, *smacks your face for 3 gorillion damage.

>>184143846
Not anymore with Priest quest

>>184143875
Dreadsteed just got nerfed to being resummoned at the end of the turn. No more crazy combos.

>>184143875
they changed dreadsteed just for this card, it's effect only works at the end of the turn now

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Why would you reveal such bad cards when they are trying to generate hype? I can understand not wanting to blow your load early but god damn apart from defile and MAYBE sindragosa everything ranged from meh to downright terrible

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>>184143615
> Having it in your deck actually makes it more likely for you to lose.
This one, there is no need to play other bad cards like Cursed Blade, so they are equally bad for the people with a brain (and you can play them if you see the good situation).

However, this shit can kill you from 2 HP under the Ice Block, bonus points for Malchezaar giving it to you.

>>184143904
Imagine the 5 best cards in your deck. Now imagine the 1 worst card in your deck.

The 1 worst card being in your hand is infinitely more valuable than your 5 best cards being in your deck. That is one of the most basic concept of card games, and its only exception are very specific decks that combo of specific cards being in your deck. Those don't exist in Hearthstone.

>>184144181
Arena will be a mess with all those shitty cards around.

>>184143904
Not the same anon, but you're over hyping this card wayyy too much. I think it will see a 1 of in taunt warrior, but that's all.

>2 mana do nothing on board
>takes a deck slot
>you don't know if your hand will be good to put back
>doesn't draw you any cards
It's mediocre. But of course I haven't seen the rest of the set yet so I could be wrong

>>184144345
I don't understand why this card exists.

>>184144478
No one does anon. No one does.

>>184144181
Defile is neat
The druid scarab card is cool
Dead Man's Hand is cool because it enables fatigue warrior

Do you just want massively powercreeped cards?

>>184144478
stories

>>184139901
The card is simultaneously a win condition and a way to stay alive until you win with it. A slower elemental mage deck with 2x blizzard, frost nova, Ice Block, Cone of Cold, and some of the new lifesteal cards should have no problem stalling the game out until t9. Then you drop this and start summoning an army of elementals

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>>184144387
Imagine if Spikeridged Steed level card is common neutral with a bonus for being from last expansion.

>>184144132
>>184144152
First time hearing it, can I get a source on this?

>>184144478
you should have seen people trying to defend the card during release. Same way people are doing for the princes now

>>184144345
This was the first legendary I ever dusted

>>184144707
No one defends princes.

>>184144627
Boner mare will fuck people up.

>>184142215
It literally is

>>184144668
Watch the VOD from the stream.

>>184144776
>>184140323


People always like to be contrarian or that they see some secret truth no one else did. It never fails

are we still replying to trip fags?

>>184138028
>control warrior

This. My quest warrior deck only uses Bloodhoof Brave as a 4 drop, and Valanar's lifesteal makes him way better, even with the 2 less life and not activating the quest.

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>watching trolden video while playing hearthstone
>yogg highlight playing
>alt tab back
>opponent has played yogg
>mfw

>>184144914
Apparently some people haven't learned

>>184144627
Spikeridged steed needs a presence on the board.
This can be a really shitty 5/5.

>>184144879
There is a slight possibility for Talaram to be used for some kind of broken combo.

>>184144627
I would love it even more as 6 mana 4/4 +3/+3 taunt for Shadowstep combos.

>Put Barnes and something like Ysera in your deck
>resurrect your 1/1 ysera twice
sleeperop you heard it here first guys

>>184145412
Too random and too slow, but actually it'd be a full Ysera so Barnes might let you pull some crazy shit.

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>>184145412
>mfw Barnes + Y'shaarj wombo combo
why hasn't anyone thought of this??? are we on the eve of a new control meta?

t. Reddit

>>184145286
Well that's possible but that guy wasn't talking about that. Judging the card as is with all cards revealed so far it is absolutely and utterly irredeemable trash.

I think everyone is holding hope that this is some sort of F I N A L or exodia or even The Ancient One effect that people can try to pull off

The cards have some of the weakest effects I have ever seen and some of the biggest drawbacks

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>mulligan a card
>replaced by same card

>>184145771
Hi there.
You seem to have made a bit of a mistake in your post. Luckily, the users of 4chan are always willing to help you clear this problem right up! You appear to have used a tripcode when posting, but your identity has nothing at all to do with the conversation! Whoops! You should always remember to stop using your tripcode when the thread it was used for is gone, unless another one is started! Posting with a tripcode when it isn't necessary is poor form. You should always try to post anonymously, unless your identity is absolutely vital to the post that you're making!
Now, there's no need to thank me - I'm just doing my bit to help you get used to the anonymous image-board culture!

>>184145412
it'd resurrect ysera, not even if it was the 1/1 version

>tesl expansion stream giving out hundreds of packs
>200 viewers
>tgt 2, electric boogaloo stream
>100k viewers

hmm

>>184145771
> The Ancient One
Shadowstepped Talaram + Blood of The Ancient One

>>184145868
Responding to them in any way at all only encourages them. Filter and forget is the only solution.

>>184145595
How do you expect Barnes + Y'shaarj to work
Too slow

im a noob, is there a pastebin of beginner advice

>>184145835
Maybe it's confirmation bias, but this seem to happen a fuckling lot.

>>184146129
It already works in Jew Druid.

>>184146137
Pay up goy

>>184146064
this is probably the only decent use of that card in existence

>>184146137
I'm surprised we don't have that yet. I remember typing up a huge wall of text beginners guide a couple of time, but I'm too lazy to do it again.

>>184146005
Blizzdrones in their natural habitat

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> tfw shaman cucked from good KoFT cards

>>184144614
Not only that, you can run loot hoarders and engineers to play and ping. 4 mana, draw a card and summon a water elemental with life steal. Pretty good deal. It's not like rexxar's hero power, it has all the same utility plus a bonus.
Also, turn 10 pyros which heals for at least 10 if the enemy can't kill it with a spell.

>win a bunch of games by boring the enemy to death by roping while I watch TV

>>184141936
Don't know about nowadays, but when I played Blue/Yellow was unbeatable broken bullshit.
Unless you got lucky and topdecked/mulliganed the best removals with Pink or White deck, Blue/Yellow would swarm the board, take the points, clear the board and swarm it again. It was like face hunter or pirate warrior but the minions never die.

ok guys, I got another t1 deck for you: non-quest quest rogue

>prince keleseth
>shadowstep keleseth
>bounce it as many times as you want
>only 3 bounces required to make your minions at least 5/5s
>enjoy old quest rogue

>>184146470
Does that actually work though? No matter how hard you rope, if you can't actually stall the game for enough turn you just get steamrolled.

>>184146527
> playing non quest quest rogue with Keleseth
> not quest rogue with Valanar

>>184146657
It works against people with a the bad connection.

>>184146326
Hi there.
You seem to have made a bit of a mistake in your post. Luckily, the users of 4chan are always willing to help you clear this problem right up! You appear to have used a tripcode when posting, but your identity has nothing at all to do with the conversation! Whoops! You should always remember to stop using your tripcode when the thread it was used for is gone, unless another one is started! Posting with a tripcode when it isn't necessary is poor form. You should always try to post anonymously, unless your identity is absolutely vital to the post that you're making!
Now, there's no need to thank me - I'm just doing my bit to help you get used to the anonymous image-board culture!

>>184145771
It won't even work even if they had an effect like that.
You need to have 0 1-2-3-4 drops in your deck
>>184146212
Too slow for any meta

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can't believe that I went 5-3 with this horrendous deck that I made
guess it's cuz NA is bad
also, post tag for 80g(NA)

one more deck: token killer

>wait for enemy to fill the board
>spreading plague
>mark of lotus+power of the wild
>savage roar for lethal next turn

>>184147126
You probably have to go into that type of deck with classes that have a lot of 0 drops like prep or forbidden shaping and the likes

You will also probably have to crutch on target dummies that have been boosted to 1/3s

>>184142518
You can run him with 2 drops in your deck, you just need to draw them before playing him

>>184141697
This will be fucking amazing in a Blood giants deck

>>184146428
wowah so versatile

>>184147945
I think there should be more weird niche cards, basically the opposite of mage

will someone post NA battle tag for free 80g or should I just let this quest dust and go back to my EU acc?

>>184146428
After tunnel trogg and totem they don't deserve good cards.
Shaman can go another 3 expansions being nothing but jank tribal and I still won't forgive it.

>>184148074
Which region is your main? That's the one you should play in only, unless you're a streamer or a """pro player""". If you have time to play in other regions, play a better game.

>>184147347
DDthekingg#1361

I'm hammered. Go easy,

>>184145595
What does t. Reddit mean?

Thanks Reddit?

>>184148237
EU, I logged just cuz I wanted to play arena and I have some gold there. I can't do it in EU cuz I'm saving for next xpac.

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> turn 10 pyroblast into death
heh, not today mage

>>184148079
This is such a shitty mindset. You should always strive for balance. "You were good for X time so now you should be bad for X time" just leads to a constant state of imbalance where everyone just goes back and forth complaining about what's currently good until it gets nerfed, then cheering when something bad gets buffed, until you get sick of that and start crying for it to be nerfed too, and so on.

>>184148782
>it's off glyph

nothing personal

>>184148782
Guaranteed summoning quote is "Someday you'll be just like me"

>>184148317
lurk more

>>184148782
I have no idea why they make creative mage cards with shitty stats

This is unusable for 3 mana

I wouldn't even be able to use it for 2 mana.

>>184148317
to Reddit. He tells you to go back there and take your line spacing habit with you.

>>184148881
T. something is one of the newest memes in the site and you are saying lurk more
Ironic

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List of the newly revealed cards from the stream? Just came back from the jobcenter.

>>184148782
>tfw colourblind

for what class is this card?

>>184148949
People don't like cards that make them unable to do things, so they all need to be shit.

>>184148949
2 mana would make it good. You could just play it on curve or play a couple to fuck things up.

3 mana with 2 mana stats, non-defensive? Nah.

>>184149052
for mage

>>184149031
There were no cards revealed.

Only dust.

>>184148849
Guaranteed because the stream confirmed that was her summoning quote?

>>184149018
Oh, ok. that's a bit odd.

>>184149052
Look at the rings around the card art. Each class and neutral cards have a unique design.

>>184149025
When you don't understand something, you lurk more. You don't ask to be spoonfed.

>>184148849
Someday I'll be dust like you!

Why are the best decks that develop continue to be aggressive archetypes? blizzard tried their dick off with development to slow down the meta and the best and most populated decks on ladder are all fast fast fast kill kill kill

>>184149193
thanks, Ill remember that, never noticed it before

freeze mage or gtfo

>>184149031
Literally in the thread you didn't bother to read you cock gobbling mouthbreather.

>>184149230
>Lurk more to learn about one of the most retarded memes ever
>>184148317
It's just a shitposting meme

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>>184149276
Because the attacker chooses how the enemy defends.

A lot of the game's problems boil down to that.

>>184147830
Seems counterproductive since you want to play keleseth as soon as possible so the rest of your cards get buffed. If you wait too long you will lose a lot of value.

>>184149493
It's not retarded. I use it when writing emails.

>>184149276
>not playing priest and removing any threats then healing back up and eventually letting your opponent die from card draws as you masturbate furiously to Valeera porn

Found your problem

>>184149334
I dont play freeze mage. Never have

>>184149276
Because you can't interact with your opponent outside your turn. The game's blessing digital card game design is also its biggest curse and it's damn hard to make cards to get around it.

Can a nigga help a brotha out with spectating a friend quest on EU? Vulenoy #2509

Please. So I don't have to play this game for at least one more day.

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>>184149276
They removed any interaction on your opponent's turn.

Originally, there were combat tricks and you could play a card outside of your turn.

But now the opponent can just flood and you can't answer.

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anyone else not play Hearthstone anymore, but still watch Hearthstone streams to remind yourself that you made the right decision to walk away?

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>he mains mage

>>184142518
First thing that came to my mind is a slow Quest Hunter. The thing is, if you can't play it early, you can play it after Queen Carnasa to have 4/3s instead and any other spare minion in the deck. There's also the hero card that is control focused apparently
It probably won't work, but it might be fun

>>184149276
Reno was the best thing Blizzard did to cull aggro decks. Priest quest isn't too bad either.

I assume they tried to do the same thing with Jade except the only thing that resulted in was killing control decks that can't keep up

>>184149846
Loatheb and more recently Dirty Rat are examples of what can be done against that, I think. There's a reason so many people were kinda serious about wanting Loatheb to be evergreen.

>>184150147
We needed Reno to get into Classic when they took those cards of Hall of Fame

>>184150118
>playing anything than a magician in a fantasy game
I swear I will never understand humans

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>>184150302
>I will never understand humans
Just who are you?

>>184150214
Fucking WRONG. Loatheb HELPED aggressive decks because it made it impossible to stop the aggression with spells.

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>Kibler will die in your lifetime

>>184150214
Definitely, although at the same time I think that Loatheb was too strong. He was an auto-include in pretty much every deck. The only decks I remember not running him were hyper aggro decks that curved out at 3-4 mana like face hunter. Even Freeze mages used to run him.

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>>184150074
> Chat
How would the cancerous game be with it?

>demonlock won't return until a draenor expansion

feels so bad

>>184150506
you don't know that for sure. some people here may die young.

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>>184150506
Thank god, I hate his fake laugh so fucking much

>>184150193
> turn 3
> +50/+50 devouring ooze
To lose 50 casual games was worth it.

>>184150506
explain plz

Pandaren expansion with Pandaren tag when

Shaman hero:

Your totems gain Deathrattle: Corrupt the minion that destroyed this card.

Hero Power: Summon a random frost totem. Give it +1/+1

>>184150261
Reno is cancer that killed fair mid range decks so people turned into aggro. He was part of a problem.

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>hearthstone can't be saved because the engine and design constrains all the future expansions
>there are core problems to the game design, going back as far as classic that only get worse over time
>blizzard's response to this is to introduce rng elements that smooth over the lack of design space

>>184150506
>>184150623
love this meme

>>184150940
What the fuck is a frost totem? Also that totem effect is hot garbage, holy shit.

>>184150193
Imagine Worldflipper X-50 and Nozdormu as maximum confusion

>>184150506
inb4 he goes out spectacularly at 45

overdose or asphyxiated by an inexperienced rentboy

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ben i like arena stop doing this to me

>>184151167
Holy light undoes a 4 mana spell for only 2 mana

Bargain!

>>184150998
Call me when a better digital card game comes out. In the meantime I'll use this to get my card game fix.

>>184151167
By the holy light!

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>>184151248
>Call me when a better digital card game comes out.
what is:
>Eternal
>Gwent
>Shadowverse
>MTGO
>Pokemon TCG Online
>Hex: Shards of Fate
>Tabletop Simulator