/twg/ - Total War General

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It is now July, a musty air blows through the Reikwald but the Warherds have been driven away. From the mighty Ulricsberg, the Ar-Ulric bears a prophecy from the white wolf for the Graf: it is time for the final battle with Chaos. The Midden Marshals scour the land for cultists, while the Knights of the White Wolf slaughter mutants and beastmen mercilessly. Meanwhile the Graf seeks out his arch-nemesis, the one eye, in hopes that their long conflict might at last come to a close. A great army of Huntsmen and Teutogen Guard is being assembled to wipe out the forces of the ruinous powers once and for all. Middenland soon!

>>184128840
YOU FUCKED UP OP

USE THIS ONE INSTEAD

>>184128919
>>184128919
>>184128919

BLOOD FOOTKNIGHTS

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ELEPHANTS!

>>184128997
literally how

mine is older too

>>184129113
so what's up with this autist spamming random unit names?

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so does AI chaos not have infighting

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>>184128997
Fuck you

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>>184129206
aww yissss

>>184128997
>splitting the threads

nice job nigger

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qO8OtI0FQMg

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Cute cartoon girls. History.

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>>184129706
Hell yea Boi

I like how kicking the shit out of someone then demanding confederation was the only real way to confederate as beastmen, but because some people couldn't work that out (there was loads of whining that the minicampaign's long objective, requiring a few confederations, was impossible) it now has to be advertised as a "feature" of norsca. It's quite funny.

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This is one of those battles where I'll get a better result if I auto resolve.

>>184128997

>threadwarring

Literally fucking kill yourself

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>>184128840
Mortis Engine is insanely OP

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>>184129706
Always wondered whats with the German girl on the left.

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post screenshots my dudes

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THIS THREAD HAS BEEN CLAIMED FOR THE LADY, HER GRACE

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Explain this Lorefags

Goatman = real
Horseman = real
Birdwoman = real
Bullman = real
Lizardman = real
Tons of monsters demons and magic = real
Ratman = Fake

HUMAN SIZED RAT??? WHAT IS THIS HERESY WHY DO YOU STILL BELIEVE IN FAIRYTALES!

Why humans in warhammer don't believe in rats when there is so much shit exist in that world, ITS MAKE NO SENSE

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>>184130124
Wrong, bitch. Women get out of my general. REEEEEEEEE!

>>184129861
what mod?

>>184128840
at least update the links u fucking muslim

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>>184129994

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>>184130239
what u say 2 me niqqa

>>184130239
>This is 11/10 in bongland

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>>184130156
They believe in ratmen. They just don't believe that there's an empire of ratmen with superscience that live in the sewers.

Like I believe that aliens exist somewhere but I don't believe aliens anally probe people and the government's covering it up.

Make sense?

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>>184130401
>>184130124
Stop.

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>>184129994
Seleucid Elephants smashing Roman lines

How do I take good screenshots help

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>>184129994
R8.

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How did I do senpaitachi?

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>>184130532
not bloody likely m80

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>>184130239
>>184130401

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>>184129994

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>>184129994

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>>184130245
cataph's southern realms

>>184130507
I guess

But what about all those retarded memes about ratmen don't exist

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What is he thinking about /twg?

>>184130156
>Horseman, Birdwoman
N-Nani?

>>184130532
Don't feed the troll.
>>184131023
Old friends.

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>>184131023
>My feet hurt. I wish Nagash was here.

>>184131023
>Let me tell you
>about Radious

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>>184129994
raiders getting annihilated

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>>184130961
I am actually so fucked

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>>184130979
Skaven are an in-universe meme too. There are people who know about the skaven and try to warn the populace, but since there's very little evidence they're usually written off as conspiracy theorists.
So someone claiming they've seen ratmen is like someone claiming they've seen bigfoot. Even though theoretically large apes do exist.

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>>184131042
+ harpies

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>>184131315
I like open field battles in Warhammer. Too bad so many are retarded hill angles and forests so dense you can't see your own damned units.

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>>184129994
Wessex stands strong!

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>>184131315
there's no way I'm winning this one

>>184131447
Speaking of that, wouldn't there be a mod that makes maps in general flatter and with less forests? It does get pretty damn tiring.

>>184131551
Are those halberdiers?

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>>184131551
jesus christ I don't remember beastmen being this ridiculous

did I accidentally download a beastmen buff mod or are estalian units actually just awful

>>184131756
black watch, elite halberdiers

or at least I thought they were elite

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How is the third Warhammer game meant to work as a standalone purchase and campaign?

Everybody talks about it as basically an add on to the old and new world?

>>184130156
It's not the ratmen, it's the empire of ratmen who's size is beyond the Empire.

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>>184131869
>radious

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>>184131869
Warherd of chaos is always better than normal beastmen. I'm pretty sure they start with a full stack and advanced horde buildings. It has to be.

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>>184132038
that's the southern realms mod you sperg

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>>184131869
my inquisitor lord is making a good showing of himself, though

I genuinely feel bad for WoC. I started them now just to remind myself that they are not so bad and in terms of interesting mechanics they have only awakening the tribe and leaving a chaos ruins which spread corruption.
This is not okay.

>>184132038
and here we see a fool who proclaims every single mod which adds units radious

>>184129860

Confederating a horde by beating the shit out of them is a bit counter intuitive, don't you think?

>>184132525
Hopefully when Norsca comes out we can get mods that port over most of the units from chaos to NORSCA

>>184132525
> leaving a chaos ruins which spread corruption.
that's modded

>>184132668
Not for Beastmen. "Might is right" is their entire organizational structure, shamans aside.

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>>184132668
Khorne disagrees

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>>184132394
All for naught

>>184130593

>Everchosen Warriors
>Not Warriors of Chaos Undivided
>Not The Swords of Chaos

Poorly, take another lap.

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>>184130875

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>>184132991
We all fought to the very end

except my general and captain, who ran away because I didn't want them to die

got the enemy lord, too

>>184132829
Yes, that's because of SFO, it seems. Wait, in vanilla chaos shrines after razing the cities don't spread corruption? This is way worse than I thought.

>>184132783
Maybe they will mod it over to WoC, so they can choose the Chaos Gods as well.

>>184132913

I mean what's the point of confederating a stack you just fucked on?

>>184133269
Play them in vanilla and see for yourself, I'm sure SFO buffed them a lot

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>>184129994
carnage in the snow

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>>184130875

>>184132829
>>184133269
Chaos shrines leave corruption in vanilla too.

>>184133406
You get the buildings, the items, and the remaining units.

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I really hope dwarfs get mortars at some point.

For having a ranged-artillery-like playstyle we sure don't have a lot of ranged artillery available.

The only reason I even really want mortars is grudge throwers stop being useful the second you siege a city. And after the early-game that's essentially all you do: attack and sometimes defend cities.

Hell half the reason I enjoy Empire at all is because their mortars are so fucking useful anti-infantry harassment.

>>184133549
What's the application?

>>184133549
good shit anon, thanks

>>184133668
fotosketcher + photoshop

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>>184128840
Ok, why is Tilea given a technology? Secrets of War and Coin seriously seem to refer to Dogs of War.

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>>184133629
I bet you SFO will add them, and then we can both enjoy the new unit and laugh at the ass-ravaged autistic anon who will rant about how SFO=radious in every thread. ;^)

>>184133724
np. bored at work.

>>184133872
I mean... Is there a difference at this point?

>>184131869
>jesus christ I don't remember beastmen being this ridiculous
Beastmen armies are usually full of ungors which are worse than goblins. This one is full of top of the line troops, no wonder you got pooped on.
That autoresolve balance of power is ridiculous, I wonder if it would be feasible to just let the AI play out the battle at super speed instead of a wonky algorithm.

>>184133864
They're going to get a unique building in Miragliano

don't overthink it

>>184133872
But I want dismounted Centigors already. He's taking forever with the new content. Banshee retinue is looking dope though.

>>184133864

Because Miragliano has been considered a faction capital for the southern realms since launch. Hence why occupying it as empire, WE or brets doesn't build a generic town, it builds Occupied Miragliano.

The only special capitals not listed there are Kislev and K8P.

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>>184131023
Where is Micael Jacsen

>>184133864
Its not tilean technology though. I think you're drawing way too many lines just from a norsca technology tree. Tilea would be the last one to be added.

>>184134301
Off with John-Boy

>>184134274

Also worth noting that Tilea and Estalia are the only two provinces outside of Norsca that Norscans can hold in full, making them a prime campaign objective.

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>>184134381
Fair enough. Still hope for Southern Realms in the second game.

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Oh boy this'll be fun, Kholek and a Lord of Tzeentch have decided to play with us and all I have is what's left of my army from the previous battle

if this goes ill, I'm gonna quick load and auto resolve

>Norsca has made the Warriors of Chaos completely obsolete

Argayon the Neverchosen btfo

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>>184134678
this is NOT where I wanted to reinforce from

>>184135015
RIP in Shrek.

>>184134950
>woc won't be relevant untill WH3

They better give us a revisied WoC for free.

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>>184135015
brave lads

>>184134950
This WAS meant to be!

>>184135223

They're at the very least getting RoR and some kind of revised campaign mechanic since Awakening the tribes is getting taken away.

>>184134507

What is Lyonesse

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>>184134950
>BeastieBoys and Norsca are better at being Chaos than Chaos is
PEEYOND YOUR COMPOOHENSION

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>>184135015
>that minimap size

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>SOON

>>184135360

Fair point, always forget Lyonesse proper is on the ocean.

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>>184135410
Reminder

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>>184135229
The enemy cavalry's taken an interest in me

>>184135459
what's your issue

Why do Chaos Warriors even exist now?

You lads think Norsca will be fun?

>>184135630
To remind us how far they have come in producing content.

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>>184135572
these swordsmen are supposed to be good, why are they SO FUCKING AWFUL

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>>184129994

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>>184135781
>having fun in 2017

>>184135781

>Having fun.

Holy fuuuuuuuuuck how do I into Bretonnian units? The infantry is dogshit as expected but I can't very well field all Grail Knights now can I.

>>184135781

>do I think shitting on everyone with an army of werewolves led by a mammoth-riding shit-talker will be fun

gee boss i dunno

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>>184135781
>playing to have fun
Take a look at this moron

>>184135781
Depends on how broken mammoths and Throgg trolls are.

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>>184135563
>y-you'll see!!

>>184135837
>armored anti-inf shock cav charges your swordsmenwho don't even have ap
>wonder why your inf get btfo

hmmm...

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>>184135837
too little too late, franz

>>184135837
>literally chaos warriors with less armor
Are those supposed to be Estallian elites or something?

>>184136010

Their basic infantry is only a hair worse than the Empire's. Just do as you do for the early game Empire.

>>184135410
Someone should add BeastieBoys to the pic peeing on Argayon.

>>184135781
Well, more fun than Chaos for sure

Looking at the Norsca I feel like CA is definitely stepping their game up for future races and campaign gameplay.

However, I don't think we're ever getting mechanics like attaching champions to units, equipping special equipment or the obvious army painter.

Which is a fucking shame cause it's going to be many many years until they revisit this trilogy, if they ever do it at all.

>no Canto LL for Norsca

Fuck this, I guess.

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>>184136118
I'll send what's left to help my allies

Kholek's army is very tired, so we might actually have a chance probably not

>>184136129
They're supposed to be somewhat better Swordsmen

>>184131880
My guess is that the campaign it ships with has a bit of the Old World without Norsca, the Dark Lands, and the Land of the Dead, where the TWW1 factions are not playable because the story won't involve them in the grand scale.

>>184130156
You try explaining to your people that right under their feet, there exists an empire spanning the globe filled with ratmen that plot your demise every second of every day.

You wouldn't even have time to explain how incompetent the ratmen are before the panic riots burn the whole city down.

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>>184136463
> no Canto
> no Egil

>>184136695
that's just a boring not!warrior of chaos though

>>184136516
That doesn't mean putting them against souped up chaos cavalry. Might as well be pissed off that your house burns down when you light the curtains of fire.

>>184136463

Who's Canto?

>>184136516
I'm gonna clean up these Hellcannons

looks like we're going to win the battle

>norsca doesn't get dragon ogres

That's a shame. I wanted a genuinely monstrous army and they'd have made a nice addition.

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brb I'm gonna go take some cool screenshots of my campaign

>>184136939

Canto was a nobleman from the Empire who lived in the time of Magnus, and was a friend of his. He basically fell into a Chaos frat cult and as the war heated up, got told to kill Magnus to stop him from fighting Asavar Kul. He chose not to and instead legged it north wehn his chaotic connections were revealed, where he became a Chaos Warrior.

He's almost unique among Chaos Warriors, because he's completely sane. He actively avoids the God's attentions and wants nothing more than to live a wealthy life in a mansion in Tilea or somewhere.

He ends up being made in Archaon's 'bodyguard' in the End Times, which is basically Archaon trying to egg Canto into killing him, as he actually genuinely likes the guy and wants to give him a chance at stopping the end of the world.

>>184136823
Nope. That's Egil Strybjorn, bane of Brettonia, Norscan High Jarl, and Fucker of Brettonian Ladies.

http://warhammerfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Egil_Styrbjorn

>>184137048
if they had D Ogres then you would literally have no reason to play Chaos ever again

>more like cuckos lmoa

>>184137079
>male looks more feminine
fucking pansies

>>184136939
a chaos "champion" whose background essentially is he didn't kill emps magnus the pious and isn't pledged to any god in particular
he, like egil, is boring

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>>184137012
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>>184136885
It's not this specific battle, they've performed poorly in the past as well

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>>184136823
> not wanting a full plate Marauder Berserker with flaming, screaming axes named after Khorne's personal hounds
> not wanting to specifically rape Bretonnia as you promised

>>184137079
someone post it

About to start my first Crooked Moon campaign.
Any tips on how to be a sneaky gobbo?
Rushing Eight Peaks doesn't seem that important if all it gives me is orcs.

>Norscans are one of the few races of humans that can actively impregnate elves

CHAOS FUCKERY

>>184137048
I mean you already get

>trolls
>ice trolls
>fimir
>skinwolves
>armored skinwolves
>mammoths
>war mammoths
>war mammoths w/ the altar thing
>frost wyrm
>ice hounds
>war hounds

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I want to marry and start a family with the Everqueen

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>>184135530
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pF6KxS_g_MU

I'm doing a nazi run with lots of bullyable vassals and you can't stop me.

>>184135837

Maybe because if a unit doesn't have AP it isn't going to do shit to WoC?

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>>184137195
Losses... could have been worse.

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>>184137152
????

>>184137631
What the fuck is that chaos lord boi

Is that just a reskin or what? Link to the mod? I wanna play as that dude ASAP

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>>184137631
you can fuck right off archaon

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>>184137495
>Playing as Edgy Pointy Earz
>Playing any Point Earz ever
>Not dominating surface world with superior Clan Skryre.

Choke gasp on warp farts elfthings!

>>184137797
The man literally has a more feminine face.
>>184137079
Unless you swapped the labels, the left is the most femboy male I've seen for the elves.

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>>184137972
>being a rat
sad desu

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>want to play warhammer or attila
>been waiting weeks and will be waiting further for gpu's to come back in stock so I can play it at max without broblems on reasonably large battles
>autism prevents me from just playing on medium

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>>184137972
VALAYA'S HELM A GLOBADIER

>>184137840
Chaos Lord of Tzeentch from Ultimate Chaos

>>184138205
play on small
it's fun

what do you do starting out as hippy elves?

Anyone got that Karl Franz pepe?

>>184138352
Thank you very much

>>184137972
I'm more of a Clan Mors man-thing myself.

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Are you fucking serious

Archaon is fucking everybody's shit up and they do this?

fucking stunties

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>>184138194
Until Grom the Paunch gets added in to stomp da pointy earz, the only other good race worth playing isn't worth playing

>>184138572
Grudges don't wait laddie.

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>>184138353
might just give that a go fím

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So it's not just me, the lighting in this game is terrible and I don't understand why I never see it brought up here

>>184138783
It's honestly a very very different game, whether it's better or worse depends on the player
I enjoy switching to it from time to time, but there are a few things that are hugely imbalanced

>>184138353
playing small reminds me of tabletop

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>>184129994

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>>184138963
like stanks in warhammer and monster units in general along with lords and heroes?
that does sound fun

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>>184138205
Dont worry I hate to play on medium in addition I just can't force myself to play any game on lower lvl than Hard.

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Alright, so we've got to fix WoC, and to do that we remove the Norscan units from their roster and replace them with something else.

WHAT REPLACES EM?

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>>184139321
>ever going below the equivalent of legendary

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>>184129994

>>184139128
Lords and heroes die pretty quick on small if you're not minding them, particularly ones that rely on regenerating HP
The most striking imbalance that comes to mind is orc boys on the charge typically shredding any infantry in their way that I tried, including stuff like ironbreakers
Quantity over quality I suppose

>>184139454
> we remove the Norscan units from their roster
So we remove Marauders? Okay. Didn't use them to begin with.
> WHAT REPLACES EM?
Nothing?

>>184139730
But why?

>>184139495

I have never played a single campaign in other than Legendary mode.

Because of that I only learnt the other day that some LL have intro quests / battles. You can't enable those in Legendary

>>184139454
They need to be more like Norsca, as in not horde based

they need a relatively safe position from which to murder everybody else

>>184139454
Regiments of Renown.

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>play on legendary to get achievements
>play on normal/hard for fun

>>184139802
Because standard Marauders are the only thing shared with the Norsca list and they're not worth taking in the WoC campaign?

>>184138689
From don't got shit on Lord Greasus.

>>184140030
Horsefuckers is in norscan roster aswell.

>>184140157
Well fuck, you're right
I'm so used to the endless chariot spam that I forget they have other cavalry

>>184140051
eat da ogres
food waaagh now

>>184140324
And trolls.

>>184138438

Terrorize greenskin minor settlements with walls of arrows until Thorgrim likes you. Try to nab black crag or K8P if opportunity presents itself.

Alternatively, kill/maim/burn Tilea and Estalia, get the 5X money from ports tech, and swim in your piles of free money.

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>>184139985
who top 1% here?

>>184140030
Then what the shit should be a cheap alternative to bolster that thin numbers game?

>>184139495
>legendary
>negative public order from difficulty

nah Im good

>>184140469
is that campaign any fun

Goddamn this game is a joke in terms of faithfulness to Warhammer, I don't think most people understand how fucking strong WoC are on the tabletop, their downside is that they are very expensive, but they melt pretty much anything they touch.

Generic chaos lord shit on most named lords and heroes other factions can choose from, hell a Chaos lord will shit on an old blood on a carnosaur, and those guys are pretty strong.

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>>184140545
no

but it was worth it for the achievement :^)

>>184138572
This shit happens way too often.

>>184140545

Fuck no

>>184140482

>Play on a low difficulty
>Public order is completely ignorable
>Play on a high difficulty
>Influencing the AI`s public order is next to impossible

>>184140631
>their downside is that they are very expensive, but they melt pretty much anything they touch
It's pretty much same in the game.

>>184138912
We're resigned to it. Keeping system requirements low was more important than having good lighting for CA. Hopefully, TW Warhammer 2 will have more demanding (& better looking) lighting options.

>>184137048
Norsca with WoC units mod soon

>>184140858

No, in the game they are shit and are expensive as fuck.

>>184140657
>the achievement :^)

That is just a piece of text in steam that no one will ever bother to read or give you any credit for.

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>form federation with chill neighbours
>everyone else in the world now hates me
what the fuck happend?

>>184140858
This. It's pretty esy to become a steamroller with them in the campaign. In MP, not so much though.

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>>184140631
>he doesn't roll as Kholek and solo armies

What are you doing wrong?

>>184140979
>caring about other people

What are you doing wrong?

>>184140631

Anon this is already what chaos is like. I walk into ambushes on purpose with WoC all the time because it only means my chosen don't have to walk as far before the murder starts.

>Pistoliers still able to autoresolve everything to death

>>184140946
Chosen is the strongest infantry unit in the game.

>>184141009
Confederation penalty thing has been in TW games for at least several games?

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>>184141131

Using auto resolve on anything but the most inconsequential of stomps.

>>184141053
Well, multiplayer is fine aswell, but maybe that's because I never play versus pro.

>>184140469
that achievment was bugged at release

>>184140631
A late-game WoC army is absolutely the single most elite army in the game. Chosen with Great Weapons melt whatever you throw at them.

The problem with WoC is their useless campaign mechanics, not the battle stuff.

On that subject: how is Norsca and WoC going to interact once Norsca DLC arrives? Will WoC still be able to awaken tribes and all that?

>>184141301
It gets highly annoying when Empire shit stacks can't be autoresolved simply due to having pistoliers. I love being forced to play battles that last 30 seconds.

>>184141702
I can't believe they still haven't fixed pistoliers in autoresolve.

>>184141141

They're not as strong as they're supposed to be and for the price ingame they suck dick.

>>184141629

There won't be tribes to awaken as they'll all be present already. Ideally we'll get the option to auto-vassal a tribe for sacking it's capital or beating it's main Lord

Isn't the hydra a big too big? Was the tabletop version even half the size?

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>>184141832
>they're the strongest infantry in the game
>THEY SHULD BE STNGR CUZ I SAY SO!!!!
>*shits pants and throws shit on the walls*

are you okay?

>>184141629
>>184141109


They are the bottom of the barrell in MP, no one gives a fuck about single player balance, we've been over this hundreds of times already, balance might as well not exist in single player you can win with anything.

>>184141962
<how to argue on 4chan 101

>>184141629
>still be able to awaken tribes
I can't see why not.
I just hope WoC somehow would be able to get norscan units from vassalased tribes.

>>184141962

WoC are a shit representation of what they are supposed to be.

They are supposed to be shitting on everything, not trade non cost effectively with fucking foot squires, this game makes me want to vomit.

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>>184141301
>mfw I use auto-resolve to win battles I couldn't win otherwise

Are the beastmen as trash in MP as they are in Single Player?

>>184141976

>Giving a shit about skirmish multiplayer in a game that gets patched every couple months at the most frequent.
>Almost all content is tailored towards single player / campaign multiplayer

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>>184142123
Get a load of this faggot

>>184141976
No one gives a flying fuck about MP. Less than 3% of all players play it.

>>184142123
I'm not arguing that Chaos is badly represented in the game, but they still shit on everything regardless. One shaggoth can solo 2-3 units of light infantry from the Empire. Chaos Spawn? You're fucked. Archaon and Kholek absolutely rape in melee and Piss-boy Sigvald is okay.

Don't like it? Wait till the third game comes out and then whine some more.

>>184141832
Ever consider you are using them wrong? Like maybe next time you should put the marauders in front so Empire canons don't grind them into paste?

>>184142232

If by fine you mean "capable of beating cheese comps" then no.

Is there a way to get an auto spectate camera in this game, like the one in LoL? That, paired with the spectator mode mod would be so great.

>>184142232
Do they have wind of death?

>>184142236

No, in fact almost all content gets tailored towards MP, the single player balance is all over the place because of army traits on lords, some have batshit OP ones like skarsnik other's suck dick.

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>>184142275
what in oblivion is that?

>>184142543
slayer dwarf with a different head model looks like, supposed to look like an ogre

>>184142369

I don't consider anything, I know if they were portrayed correctly they would shatter greatswords with 80% health left.

Chaos has nothing but its warriors, but their warriors shit on everything they touch, they don't fucking make the enemy rout with 20% enemy left, the fuck.

>>184142501
Empirically false and stated as so by CA on shittid. Go look for yourself.

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>>184142501
>No, in fact almost all content gets tailored towards MP

>>184142275
>giant shaved gwarf
Wew

>>184139495
I played a couple legendary but on the long run it's stupid this high morale penalty is just cheap "hard mode" they could have came up with something more intresting.

>>184142236
>content tailored towards multiplayer campaign

Then give me 4 Player Campaigns CA. Damn it

>>184142543
>>184142734
Either we have some newfags among us or I am not overusing the Image.

When will the Empire get a Lore of Death Wizard?

>>184142716
>>184142731

The balance in single player doesn't exist, everything is made with the balance in custom battle in mind.

There is no balance in SP when I can have 70MA goblins, it was the same in Rome 2, everything was balanced towards MP because MP is the only place where balance matters and can be balanced.

>>184142734
wouldent a giant dwarf be a regular person?

>>184141976
>Implying anyone gives a fuck about MP.

>Bret campaign
>Going fairly well despite shit income
>Chaos shows up
>It's all over, barely any AP
>Kholek fields Chosen with Halberds

How the fuck is this supposed to work out

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>>184142501
I have 200 hours logged on Warhammer, and hundreds more on the other games, and I have literally never, not ONCE, played MP in any of them.

It's cool if you like it, but trust me, the devs definitely DO NOT create the game around multiplayer.

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>>184142501

>No, in fact almost all content gets tailored towards MP
>Theres actually someone ITT how actually believes this

>>184142876
nobody's saying SP is balanced, but you seem to think MP is balanced

>>184142910
It's all about proportions. Dwarfs shaped like a bags of potato.

>>184142914

No one cares about single player balance, always assume people that talk about balance are talking about MP and don't interject.

Single player champions have no say whatsoever when it comes to balance, stick to radious.

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>people actually play MP in total war

Just finished my first Warhammer campaign as Dwarfs. Never did get a chance to use that flame cannon.

Who next?

>>184142501

>Skirmish balance anything but an afterthought / total shit show since release.
>Double pot heroes
>Full peasant Bret domination
>VC death stars
>Gyro meme stacks
>Skirmisher draws
>Almost all of these were issues for 6+ months or still are today since release.

Quick battle is not a priority compared to the campaign.

>>184140051
Greasus didn't fight the elves. Not a point in your favor anon.

>>184143069
LOL

you're so fucking full of yourself dude

What magics are useful for the Empire?

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>>184143107
sk*ven

>>184143101
It seems like it would be fun to stage giant "cinematic" battles, and maybe play it with friends. But I can't imagine anyone playing MP competitively.

>>184142968

I don't care what you've done, balance is tailored around MP, because it's the only place where balance matter, ironic you post a beastman, since beastmen have the problem where bestigors don't have any army trait upgrade so they end up worse than gors, so much for single player balance lol.
>>184143132

This post doesn't make any sense, every game will have optimal builds, nice strawman though.

>>184143107
Now crush the stunty empire with the grenskins!

Let your mob crush them while you spend all your time directing flying goblins to crash into everything.

>>184143320
>balance is tailored around MP, because it's the only place where balance matter,

You keep saying this, why?

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>>184143320
>because it's the only place where balance matter

>>184142968
>I have literally never, not ONCE, played MP in any of them
Why not? Strategy games is all about outsmarting your opponent, not compete with a few lines if code.

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>>184142501
>>184143069

If CA REALLY cared about MP all that much like you guys are claiming, then where's the Avatar conquest mode?

>>184143101
>people actually don't play MP in total war
What a bunch of pussys

>>184142856
When we get Elspeth von Draken.

>>184143320
>I don't care what you've done, balance is tailored around MP, because it's the only place where balance matter

lmao you're definitely trolling

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>mfw a MP-fag unironically starts his autistic ranting about how he's more important than people who play SP

>>184143320
> balance is tailored around MP, because it's the only place where balance matter

esport shitters pls go

>>184142876

>There is no balance in SP when I can have 70 MA goblins.

Against AI too stupid to spec their Lords, sure. Another player is just as capable of taking advantage of this though, and 70 MA on goblins really isn't that great when you can get basic dwarf warriors up to like 40A/60D with just axe Lord.

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>>184143513
I tend to avoid any Multiplayer games that aren't Waframe or the Red Orchestra games. It's mostly because of misanthropy.

>>184143418

Because it's the truth?

>>184143547

Jesus why are you so dumb, it's not a matter of how much they care, they CANNOT balance around single player because single player balance does not exist, is that clear?

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Holy fuck this was an awesome and tense battle

>>184143753
how did you let the rebels get that big?

>>184137797
Get this ugly shit to the WoW general.

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>>184143753
>using ROR

>>184143887
It's probably a Lord's Army+Garrison+Another army the AI tried to recruit.

>>184137797
Those eyebrows looks so fucking stupid.

>>184143320

>Every game will have optimal builds.
>Bretonnian peasants
>Strongest all purpose build in the game for 8 months were literally placeholder units

This is why nobody cares about people who take mp seriously.

>>184143753
What are those OC units?

>>184143739
Multiplayer balance doesn't really exist either

>>184143723
>Waframe or the Red Orchestra games
Wow, shit taste.

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>>184143753
Thankfully the terrain was on my side (using GCCM)

>>184143887
I don't know. I swear they cheated that second 20 stack because it appeared out of nowhere

>>184144072

THANK YOU for proving my point, remember how Bretonnian peasants were so strong? CA literally said they were so strong because Bretonnia needed help to remain competitive in multi since their roster was so small.

Thanks for reminding everyone.

>Swords of Chaos RoR
>base of 75 melee attack and a 120 charge bonus

Sure, why not. Why can't the devs balance?

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>>184144148
>red orchestra
>shit taste

>>184142657
Have you considered the fact that the TT difficulty equivalent is Normal, and that above that it's like your enemy is playing with free buffs?

>>184144243
Yes, it's pure garbage.

>>184144217

>Bretonnia needed help
>So we made their peasants the most effective army for it's cost period

This is the argument you're leaning on.

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>>184144340
get good

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>>184144205
Aside from a few sneaky gits who tried to get behind my crossbowmen and mortar on the cliff, they all funneled themselves into this death trap

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>>184144243
wtf reviewbrah has a chocolate lab like I do

>>184144427

Yes, what's your point? It's called balance.

>>184144440
what map is that?an imperial city with no walls?

>>184144217

>Release peasants
>Competitive

I think the point being made is they were in fact not competitive as they stomped everyone else.

>>184144217
>>184144483
Shit dude, I thought you were being serious before

8/10, well done

So why dont WE have followers yet?
They dont get items as frequent as the other factions either. Is this intended or does CA not give a fuck?

>>184144317

Chosen don't trade well with basically any armour piercing unit, since they're so expensive. It's not a matter of buffs or not. They're simply overpriced.

>>184133269
They didn't initially in vanilla but it was added in later

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>>184144440
And were slaughtered by the most perfect Burning Heads you've ever seen in your life.

>>184144621

No, the point is that you missed the point, the ACT of making them stronger than they're supposed to be because of MP is in fact, balance, it doesn't mean it's BALANCED, it means it's an attempt to BALANCE, do I have to draw this?

Anyone you proved the point for me lol, thanks I guess.

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>>184128840
Ahoy, /twg/ ye bunch o' rum munchers. I noticed many scallywags natterin' o' Vampire Coast 'n I 'ave an idea o' how t' implement them.

My idea is to put in Vampire Coast using the White Dwarf (304/305) army list but to make it but I would add to it as some units will be reskins of Vampire Count units.

I would add in the Pirates of Sartosa. These would obviously be living Pirates that the Vampire Coast 'recruits' from and could be Rogue Armies that wander the seas in search of loot. GW also has a Pirate Lord model which would be a good starting point. Pirates of Sartosa would also help a future Dogs of War list as pirates do become mercenaries in some occasions.

So, wha' do ye reckon ye landlubbers?

>No Arelf the Beastherder

CHAOS IS SHIT
SHIT

That furry fucker disappearing into the voids of the lore was a good thing.

>>184144908
That's great dude, now do it in a mod after Warhammer 2 releases.

>>184141832
>>184141962
Chosen are fucking strong. Its not games fault that in tabletop they are just powerful. It's a game and you can just focus them with artillery and handguns. But when they get to melee they are indeed strong. If you want to beef them up just send unit of maruders or something in front of them as meatshield and enjoy 100-300 kills.

>>184144928

>Be a Chaos Warrior
>take control of a herd of Beastmen
>fuck their does
>lead a regiment of Bestigors that are your own sons, spawned through chaos fuckery

Honestly, he was funny as hell, just for the Beastmen getting literally fucked into submission.

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>>184144798
You can see the line of corpses they carved through their ranks. In the end my Bright Wizard had 1361 kills. Fucking hell.

>>184144603
It's from GCCM

Why do VC have both zombies and skellingtons

don't they fill the exact same purpose of useless meatblobs?

unit variety I suppose, and muh tabletop

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>>184143101
>>184143305
>competitively
Maybe not but it's still fun to play sometimes. As the AI dosent always provide great battles. Here if you are a little lucky enemy will make some normal build and you can enjoy battle when you have to build balanced good army and command it well to win.