/twg/ - Total War General

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I'm a beastman.

Kislev or Araby, who first?

Can hangunners shoot over humans to hit monstrous enemies?

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beyond my comprehension...

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>>184021978
I really like beastmen more than any other race. Why so?

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I keep forgetting how idiotic the AI is

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>>184023030
We both know why.

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oh boy, gonna be great having half in my infantry incinerated in the first volley

>>184021556
Use the other thread first

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THE TRUE VON CARSTEIN

>>184024737
who is stronger, Nagash or a skeleton?

>>184022549
Kislev has at least some units in the lore, unlike Araby

>>184024268

Don't worry the AI can't handle artillery

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>so this was the big tough guy huh?
>yeah, the fuccboi wasn't so tough after getting my hammer up his ass

>>184024982
NAGASH WAS WEAK!

Sarthorael will be a LL in the third game im guessing?
Which other LLs will there be for the other chaos factions?

>Morgrim is the son of Grimnir and Valaya and Snorri Whitebeard's half-brother
>he is considered an ancestor god
>Snorri Whitebeard however is not despite being the son of Grungni and Valaya

How this work?

>9 full units of eternal guards can't kill a single minotaur in a jagged-horn tribe army consisting of 6 units of minotaurs, while being backed up by archers and orion
fuck this shit

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>>184026536

WHICH FUCKING THREAD

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Total War POKEMON when

>>184026834
Always the earlier one, which means not this one.

So basically right now we are having 3 "chaos" factions in Warhammer 1: WoC, Beasties and Norsca.
All of them revolve around Chaos Gods and their marks. Which one of them is closer to the chaos, more favoured by its powers?

>>184027086
Im guessing the one which has the champion of chaos

>>184027158
So it is WoC then.

>>184027086
I dont understand the question.

>>184027336
Silly, go back to plebbit where you can enjoy simple conversations.

What's a good skill setup for the Fay Enchantress? I can't get a hold on the Brets.

Are you guys of the opinion that it's better to use Reiksguard, KotBS or demigryphs with lances for rear charges as the Empire? To use in tandem with some halberd demigryphs who will win the cavalry engagement.

>>184027086
humans are the favorite pawns and toys of the Chaos gods currently

>>184027818
Always Demigryphs if money's not the problem.

Also, I don't think you need halberds for cavarly, Demigryphs themselves shoud cave other cavarly covered.

Possible DLC races for 2?
Skaven are most likely to be in the base game
Araby
Chaos dwarfs
Tomb kings
Albion?

>>184028190
Tilea

>>184028190
Chorfs, tomb kangz and ogres

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*jezzails your general*

psh... nothing peronsell, man-thing

>>184028503
*gasses the dwarf box formation*
Nothing personal manlets

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>I got this

>>184028880
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JD6lN9FEHao

>>184028880
>NOT THE DOGS, OH GOD NOT THE DOGS

>>184027706
I take the Vigour skill, the +10MD for Grailsters, then magic. Most of her red skill unit buffs are crap, and I just generally don't like the blue skills, beyond +10% movement.

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It is now July, a chill wind blows in Naggaroth but the sea of malice is beginning to thaw. From Ghrond, a messenger comes bearing word of an ancient prophecy involving the lands of north Lustria. The Hag Queens offer many sacrifices to Khaine, while their underlings train relentlessy. Meanwhile the Druchii of Clar Karond whip their slaves ceaselessly in preparation for the Witch-Kings coming campaign.
A great fleet is being assembled and the armies of the Druchii arm themselves for total war, domination by a best elf soon!

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>Skink tending to a meditating Slann, ca. -1650 C

>>184026290
>Sarthorael will be a LL in the third game im guessing?
>not kairos
also I'll be pissed if lords of change & bloodthirsters don't fly.

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Based Justinian took care of two Moorish stacks for me

>>184029301
That beastmen lord with wings doesnt fly either
Dont get your hopes up

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What is the best race and why is it the Dark Elves?

>>184029437
Odd way to say the beastmen

Is Europa Barbarorum II worth time?

>>184029675
The first one wasn't so no

So I tried out a couple custom games to see if big units were as OP as they seemed
Is there even a point in building anything but Arachnaroks as Orcs? They literally cannot be beaten by any AI army

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>>184029437
Because they have the best king, best mom, best babes and best hydra.

>>184030076
>is there even a point in not cheesing the game
How about having fun?

>>184030076
No anon, I'm afraid that if you do make entire armies out of your faction's most expensive and powerful units the AI will find it quite hard to defeat you.

>>184030076
They cost a lot and you need a high tier building
Not so easy to recruit

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>No Kharibdyss even though it's just a reskinned Hydra

DISAPPOINTING

>>184030157
So in other words, no, there is no point building anything else
Got it, thanks
>>184030306
>>184030293
Yeah but even like 3 of them can beat anything but the absolutely highest tier full stacks
You gotta remember there's also an Orc lord in there and so far I've never been able to get that guy killed no matter who I throw him against

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some of you are okay. don't go to the warp gate tomorrow.

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why doesn't a single bullet to the dome kill Kholek and other large things
why do only the front ranks fire as though in a line battle when you target things in the air

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>>184030157
only losers have fun, I play to win

>>184030393
It wouldn't make sense since there are no naval battles.

The Kharibdyss comes out from sea, if anything it should be a summonable like Krell.

>>184027507
Or be a dick, thats fine.

>>184030393
They look pretty cool

>>184030393
The chest hole on this thing looks dumb.

>>184030639
A single bullet to the dome won't kill a lot of large animals either, and Kholek is a roughly 30 foot tall lightning powered monster
In tabletop cannons could fucking annihilate the majority of monsters, which is kind of what you would expect even if the target is twice the size of an elephant

>>184027050
Everyone is using this one already

>>184030639

>why doesn't a single bullet to the dome kill Kholek and other large things

Gee I don't fucking know, because it would make monster units fucking useless if a single bullet killed them?

>>184031259
Why do shields block bullets?

>>184030393
they showed concept art of the kharibdyss in today's video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Go_mpfuUn68

>>184031164
>A single bullet to the dome won't kill a lot of large animals either
that's not true at all so long as it hits the brain, name one animal that wouldn't

>>184031259
pretty stupid to make them so powerful when gunpowder is around in your fantasy world then

never 4get

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EaDlihIqPws

>>184031559
Chicken

>>184031559
Getting past the skull is the hard part smartass

>>184030639
Do you have any idea how thick Kholek's skull has to be? His bone density has to be fucking crazy to support all that weight as it is. Bullets probably bounce off his fuckin' skull.

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>>184031364
>X-Files theme plays

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>>184031364
Those are gonna be two very long months.

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>>184030393
also no medusa tits

>>184031559
they have a decentraliezd nervous system, there's no single central brain to kill them

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>>184031717
>still no standard bearers in-game
>but they draw concept art with them in it
God damn it.

>>184031717

>concept art

That's from one of GWs books.

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>>184031643
yeah it'd be pretty hard for a fucking whale, not for an anthropomorphic thing like kholek with a humanoid framework, unless his brain is in his stomach or some stupid bollocks

>>184031954
What? He said getting past the skull is the hard part
The skull is the bone part m8

>>184028190
>Chaos dwarfs
That's game 3

>>184031891
This

>>184030639
>why do only the front ranks fire as though in a line battle when you target things in the air
pretty sure all ranks fire in Warhammer m8

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>>184031754
so Kholek with his human upper body and all that is actually just a big cockroach

>>184032083
>>184031659
hitting flatter bones like the skull is easier to break IIRC, and Empire bullet velocity would have to be pretty shitty to just plink off the skull bone like that

>>184032502
Isn't the Empire basically at the early musket tier of guns? Also, what if his skull bone is so dense that it's as hard as diamond?

>>184032502
Nigger his skull bone is probably thicker than a regular human.

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>two hundred turns into an Empire campaign
>greenskins won the badlands bowl
>they declare war on me
>they're also the strongest faction
>karl and a random lord are stationed in grenzsdat, both have good armies
>7 fucking stacks appear at Blackfire Pass
>all of them have shit like black orcs, trolls, giants, doom-divers
>lightning strike them with both of my armies there, manage to drive them back
>end turn
>no more waves
>move more armies towards the Pass
>before I know it they send TWELVE (12) stacks to Blackfire Pass and another 3 towards Nuln
>mfw

>>184032502
If bears today can take hits to the noggin from modern firearms and shrug it off I'm sure kholek can take a few from muskets

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The last Moorish army. The Imperial Legions defeated two invading forces in the west some months ago, leaving two other armies to be dealt with by Belisarius. They were sieging Hadrumentum and its defending Legion when Belisarius arrived with relief forces consisting of over five thousand men.

He attacked from the south, relieving the southern section of the city as the army responsible for that part of the siege fled when they sighted the Roman force. Their mistake had been made, as they ran towards the coast and away from their allied army. The Roman force descended upon them and broke them, leaving the last Moorish army to stand alone. It tried to flee and head into the desert, but it had been surrounded by the Roman army and the defending Legion sallied out to defeat the Moors.

And now the Moorish king leads his battered force against ten thousand men, a brave act, if not a foolish one. He'll die well in battle.

>>184032747

>lightning strike them

That's a grudge.

>>184032787
they can't though, bears drop hard when you hit them and penetrate the brain, every animal would
there's a webm I had of someone doming a bear when it charged but I can't find it now, they certainly don't just shrug it off though, you'd just think that because of the relativity of the size of the bear and what kills it

>>184032860

Was it a great victory, worthy of Roman arms?

I'm new to TWWH, how do I beat large units? I'm having PTSD flashbacks to Oliphaunts in Third Age TW, but at least those tended to break morale easily

>>184033017
Penetrating the skull is the hard part, and I'm told that bear skulls are pretty fucking hard

>>184033138
Halberds/Spears and Ranged units

What's the most and least fun campaign of the five main races?

My opinion

Greenskins>Vamps>Bretonnia>Empire>Dorfs

>>184033138

Units with the Anti Large trait are good for that. Focusing ranged units can also work. I had three (admittedly veteran) ranged units focus on a Giant, he dropped in seconds.

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>>184033250

I've modded the game pretty heavily after my first two campaigns (Empire and Dwarfs) so my opinion is coloured by that:

Bretonnia > Empire > Vamps > Dwarfs = Greenskins

>>184033250
>TOP TIER
Empire
Skarsnik
Dwarfs
Vampires
Skarsnik
>MID TIER
Warriors of Chaos
Bretonnia
Wurrzag
Belegar
Greenskins
>SHIT TIER
Wood Elfs
Beastmen
Von Carstein

>>184032502
>Empire bullet velocity would have to be pretty shitty to just plink off the skull bone like that
Comparitively speaking the bullet velocity is pretty shit. Empire Handguns are the equivalent of Hackenbüchse, early matchlocks with a muzzle velocity of some 600-700 meters a second, and that falls off very quickly without rifling in the barrel to stabilize the projectile. It'll punch through a steel cuirass sure, but a giant monster with a skull thicker than most tank plating? Probably not.

>>184033356
>>184033196
I guess spears are more of a "contain until you can shoot it to death" solution? Cause they obviously still get fucked in direct combat
Another unrelated question: What's the point of expendable units? I understand that you just build them cheap and then throw them at the enemy without giving a fuck if they die, but your stack has a max unit limit so once you get big stacks, do you just stop using them?

>>184033017
>when you hit them and penetrate the brain
>and penetrate

That's the fucking point.

There's people failing to shoot themselves because the bullet doesn't penetrate, and they're humans.

>>184032747
>greenskins won the badlands bowl
Stopped reading right here.

>>184033650
Where does Skarsnik fit on this list?

>>184033664
>but a giant monster with a skull thicker than most tank plating?
Skin, meat and bone surely doesn't protect as well as steel plate?

>>184033684

I tend to bring low tier and expendable units along in a secondary stack. I've also used shitty units like goblins for drawing tower fire during sieges.

>>184033664
>600-700 meters a second
That's low? I played enough War Thunder to know that even something like 700 m/s is more than enough to penetrate 100+mm of steel plate

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>>184033052
It was a bloodbath.

The heavy cavalry of the Roman legion shattered their center and flanks, while artillery pummeled them from afar. A flanking force attacked the king and slayed him, leaving the Moors to scatter and be cut down by horsemen.

>>184033814
Greenskins win all the time.
>>184033826
SKARSNIK TIER.

>>184033887

Fitting weather.

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>>184033842
Depends on the scale of the material. You might not think spider webs are tougher than high tensile steel but they are, it's just that they're thin, tiny, and very small compared to you.

Also, I definitely can't speak as to Dragon Ogre physiology but if they're anything like dragons their skin and bones are unnaturally protective anyway, so keep that in mind as well.

>>184033826
Skarsnik is there twice because its fenjoyableuentertainingnand cool

>>184033889
>Greenskins win all the time.
This ain't true. In my last run with Chaos, the dwarfs had wiped pretty much all of the south and created an empire. Didn't even bother wiping them out because I got bored after 300 turns.

>>184033873
Perhaps he means feet per second

>>184034054
>fenjoyableuentertainingnand cool
Are you okay anon?

>>184033980
It's kind of strange. The volcanic winter ended like two turns ago and the maps still have that effect.

>>184033889
>Greenskins win all the time.
What mememod are you using? I heven't seen thm win in vanilla in over a hundered hours of play, even when I was feeding thm money.

>>184033250
Dorfs and greenskins both still suffer from the badlands bowl syndrome and lack of decent enemies in mid- to late game.

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>>184033803
>There's people failing to shoot themselves because the bullet doesn't penetrate
because of a fault in the weapon I'm sure, not sloppy suicide skill
a close impact shot aimed right at your skull not penetrating is nearly impossible with modern rounds especially

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>>184034182
no

>>184032860
Speaking of Belisarius, how is his relationship with his wife?

>>184034105
I didn't mean they win every time, just that it's not unusual.
>>184034213
Vanilla.

>>184034223
>badlands bowl syndrome
What's that?

>>184034413
Its the lack of any challenge to either after you conquer the badlands due to the fact that no other faction other than these two can really contest it.

>>184033873
Depends on what you're firing anon

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How the fuck does monarchical succession work in Medieval II, is it just completely random?

So my king dies and rather than any of his brothers or sons, the crown passes to his 80 year old cousin with no children. Which is fine, except that now for some reason the heir to the throne is this sniveling little teenager who is the 2nd cousin twice removed from the current king and is only related to the royal family on his grandmothers side, he doesn't even carry the royal family name. The succession also skipped his perfectly alive dad.

I'm tempted to send him charging into some pikemen or too close to the walls of a besieged settlement, but I'm worried that if he dies on the same turn as my current 80 year king that might just fuck things up further.

Are there no rules to how heirs are chosen at all?

>>184033873
>That's low?
It is when your ballistic stability is practically 0 and you're firing a ball bearing from a smoothbore tube using gunpowder. That's kind of the problem with shooting them dead square in the head anyway: It can't be done consistently. Aiming for the center mass is the only realistic way to hit the fucker and aiming for his head is just begging for more than half of your regiment's shots to miss.

>>184034780
Hopefully this will change with TWWII
Not only because of the Tomb Kings, but the Border Princes will be able to take Dwarf and Orc settlements too.

Although it'd be nice if one of the orc tribes was replaced with a Strigoi mini-faction.

>>184035270
Bitch Princes aren't going to take anything other than... I was going to say green dick, but orcs don't fuck, although they have some kind of balls or whatnot to spread their spores.

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>>184035270
Soon

I own all of the gamesl except Napoopan. Whoever rolls a 7 tells me which one to play.

What's the difference between Vamps and Tomb Kings? Are Vamps basically just a small province of the same small empire the Tomb Kings once had?

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SURPRISE SURPRISEEEEEEEEEEE!
Beastman launch a SURPRISE ATTACK on the Oak early game with no possibility for me to defend it except by having a secondary army stationed at the Oak at all times but that would cost too much because Wood Elves have a shit fucking start

NICE GAME MAN

>>184035725
You shouldnt have let them come inside of the forest

YOUR OWN FAULT

>>184035725
how does one shake a grave?

>>184035782
How the FUCK do I "not let them inside the forest"? Huh? What the fuck am I supposed to do? Am I just supposed to sit in the fucking forest with 200 income waiting until I get enough money to upgrade?

>>184035628
Napoopan

>>184035725
You can win that. It won't be especially easy but you can win it.

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>>184035657
Vamps took all of the stuff the Tomb Kangz did and made it Gothic basically

>>184035628
Rome.

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>>184035824

>>184035628
Sleep

>>184034413
>Badlands are necessary to capture because if you don't, Top Knotz will continually throw doomstacks at you.
>Badlands is a giant empty wasteland only populated by greenskins. Making it really tedious to conquer.
>Once you capture it, you've effectively already beaten the game because you now have a giant piece of territory that's geographically isolated and easily defendable.

One thing I'm worried about is that a Norscan playthrough will suffer from the same problem: You have to capture all of Norsca and once you do, you're invinsible.

>>184035896
Send the Dryads and Treeman into his infantry blob, have my archers fire at his Minotaurs, flank charge the enemy with my cav, and have the missile cavalry flank around their entire army and then harass the Cygors?

>>184035945
oh so he's a masterful tombstone sculptor? that's sweet, I feared it was something bad and pillaging-related

>>184035657
Vamps are usually aristocrats that jerk themselves off over their own power. There's a lot of them in a lot of different places and they're only loosely affiliated, in some cases they hate eachother openly. Most of them don't live in Kang country because Tomb Kangz hate Nagash and his former/current servants, which includes vamps.

Tomb Kings spend most of their time napping under the sand. Just don't fuck with their land or steal their shit from their tombs because they'll march an army of fuckin' bones up to your doorstep and drown you in them.

Basically Kangz, Vamps, and Nagash all came from the same place but there's a lot of friction between them and Vamps fucked off to lands further north, or in many Necarchs' cases they burned to death in Nagash's library because they couldn't bear the loss of all that necromantic lore.

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>>184035247

I vaguely recall reading that there is some hidden trait that the game uses to decide the heir but I could be remembering it wrong. In my last M2 campaign I had to send several generals and family members to their "tragic" deaths.

>>184035657

>small

>>184035725
the terrain heavily favors you
easy victory

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>>184035985

>>184035657
It's complicated, but basically, back when the Tomb Kings were still alive and thriving, the nobility in a city called Lahmia figured out how to turn themselves into vampires. They got cracked down on hard and scattered all over the world. Sylvannia was turned into VC central by a vampire named Vlad Von Carstein.

>>184036161
Well help me then please. I'm not only new to Total War, but I've only ever beaten a campaign as Empire. Wood Elf is very different for me.

How do I use non-shock cav? Same as shock cav? Charge in, run out, charge in, etc?

>Fay Enchantress start
>Other Bretonnians refuse to confederate
>King doesn't give a fuck, grabs them all
>Only him and myself left, he doesn't want to confederate

Great. now I have to basically attack the King if I want the core Bretonnian lands.

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I wonder how the badlands bowl is gonna look in the second game's combined map

Why is that Imperial fags are the ones that always seem to bitch most about not being the ones to get new stuff?

>>184036080
>>184035905
>>184036250
>figured out how to turn themselves into vampires
I thought the Tomb Kings were always undead themselves

>>184036350
I don't expect it to change that much until TK DLC.

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>>184036403

>>184035875
Ambush them nigga

>>184036264
do the quests they give you to improve relations

>>184036252
hold a choke around one of the hills, your army can deal with it
try to flank them with your cav and chase off the archers, while you use the missle cav to harass and pull the minotaurs
just find a way to deal with the cygors if you plan to use chokepoints

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>>184035985

I've found modding the game to give the Orcs a boost can make the Badlands bowl less one-sided at least. Pic related is the Badlands in my recent Angrund campaign, at 100 turns. Dwarfs will probably win but it's taken them a while. I've seen Grimgor take Karaz-a-Karak itself before.

Though that doesn't address the fact that you'll only be fighting Orcs and the occasional Beastmen and that one Norscan invasion. The Badlands need the Skaven and Tomb Kings bad.

>>184036414
Nah they were all resurrected by Nagash's magic but they retained their memories and shit. The ones that were entombed millenia ago woke up horrified at what they had become, and the ones that had died recently came back knowing exactly what Nagash did to them, which involved plagues and undead armies and shit.

Imagine you got promised rebirth and eternal life and instead you wake up as a fucking skeleton. They are not on good terms with Nagash.

>>184036403
They're the closest relatives to hisfags genetically, so they bitch and moan more.

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>>184036414
They are. Here's a quick rundown:

>Long time ago in Warhammer Egypt a certain KANG wanted to be immortal
>Spent his whole life trying to become immortal
>This guy was Nagash, lord faggot of death and shit
>Nagash basically killed everyone living in Egpyt (Nehekara) and made them all undead
>Later, Nagash disappears (probably to go suck some dick)
>Thousands of years later some Vampire Cunts find Nagash's literature on Undeath and the magic associated with it
>They use this to make themselves immortal and to raise people from the dead to serve them

And that's about it

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>>184036414

Nah, they were mortal once.

>>184036628
What kind of boost

>>184030639
nobody can hit him in the head cause the whole damn earth is shaking when he's on the field

>>184036403
Well, they are the only faction without an alternate starting position (except Chaos maybe? I don't have them).
And their unique campaign mechanic doesn't really do much.

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>>184036824
>>184036806
>>184036709
I see. Thanks for the summary, bros

>>184037003
Chaos have the same start pos. no matter which lord you choose

The difference being that Chaos is OP

>>184036824
you mean they were once KANGZ?

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>>184036403
Because playing Empire is like being savagely beaten from every direction by almost everyone until Chaos kills them all and shits 4 full stack armies on top of Altdorf. Meanwhile, the Sarl and Varg are sieging and burning down everything you can't defend because you're too busy lightning striking, agent action spamming, and breaking sieges multiple turns in a row.

>>184035985
Also, don't forget that Greenskins can't confederate with the Top Knotz, meaning you HAVE to fight them, and they have a limited roster, making them even more tedious to fight.

>>184037151
They're still Kangz, that why they're called the Tomb Kangz.

>>184036874

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=892763102

Mod maker says he's "improved the way the Greenskins armies manage their fightiness, making them much more conservative on this aspect." Seems to work. However, this mod changes some other things about Norsca and the Chaos invasion (nerfs Norscan economy but boosts the Doom Tides and Archaons armies) so keep that in mind. His AI recruitment mod might also help the Orcs a bit. You could also try the Green Tide mod.

>>184036806
Reading the entire lore of Tomb Kangz was depressing as hell. Also kind of neat that they were a mix-up of Rome and Egypt

>>184036824
>even the stone giants look alive

>>184037294
Nah, otherwise the phrase would lose its spice.

>>184037151

Better. Settra was the KANG OF KANGZ

>>184037437
What?

>>184037307
I tried this mod already
It made the GS stronger but norsca was pussified, and the game was easier overall because the AI didnt target you aggressively like they usual do

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>>184036824
does anyone know the artist of these black and white warhammer fantasy images? i've been looking for ages

Can you warhammer fags fuck off to >>>/toy/ or something if you want to discuss warhammer lore that isnt even in TW yet

>>184037313
Rome+Egypt+Sumeria

Rome because Khemri is always the capital
Egypt because like 90% of it is Egypt
Sumeria because they're largely comprised of fractious city-states unified by a singular monarch through conquest

>>184037437
Cause it hasn't already?
What's next, you're gonna complain about someone spoiling the sanctity of the word cuck? Or meme?

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>>184036403
The Empire gets raped by literally everything. It's not that their units are bad, but the way their campaign is designed is really shitty and shallow compared to some others.

For example, part of the Empire campaign is confederating with the other Empire states. By the time Chaos shows up you'll be lucky to confederate with two of the states, and more often than not you won't be getting any actual provinces out of it because of the in-fighting between the states.

If you somehow manage to take all of the Empire provinces, you then have to worry about Chaos and Norsca in the north, Beastmen and Greenskins to the south, AND not having your empire fall apart from Chaos Corruption and public disorder.

There are no bonuses for uniting The Empire. You get nothing for it. Other factions get bonuses for doing certain things (Taking 8 Peaks as Belegar/Skarsnik, getting Chivalry as Brettonia, etc) but The Empire get nothing.

Again, they have really good units, but the macro of the campaign is what ruins the fun.

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>>184037629
Just can't stay away, can you?

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>>184037710
wake up on the wrong side of the bed or something?

>>184037605

There's a bunch of them, Karl Kopinski, Paul Dainton and Adrian Smith are responsible for a lot.

>>184037921
No, I just think worrying about the spice of one of the most pointlessly-spammed phrases is silly

>>184037605
Karl Kopinski, Paul Dainton, Alex Boyd, Dave Gallagher and Adrian Smith are the main ones.

>>184037715
tfw I really like the Empire campaign because of all the different threats


They should have had better mechanics though.

>>184037715
What bonus should the Empire get then?

>>184037715
It doesn't even make sense why everyone hates you other than Tod Howard.

Why are Wissenland, Averheim and Stirland at war against one another when the VC are at their doorstep?

Why are Ostland, Ostermark, Tabacleland and Hocland are at war against one another when they could easily raid the Varg/Skaeling to the north or the VC to the South?

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>bought grim and grave at release
>stop playing because of work
>finally boot the game for Volkmar campaign
>go to custom battle to look at unit detail and animation
what the fuck is this? This nigga doesn't shoot spells or even hit motherfuckers? Like seriously, what the fuck is this shit

>>184038237
Todbringer's hate doesn't really make more sense, since he accepts Karl as the Emperor basically as soon as he's elected. It was only during the election process he opposed it.

>>184038267
Hes cheering on his horsies

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>>184038237
>Why are Wissenland, Averheim and Stirland at war against one another when the VC are at their doorstep?

>>184038267
>complaining about models not having combat animations in a game with no combat animations

>>184038267
He is channeling his faith to mind control two horses, obviously.

>>184036824

As were we all.

>>184037715
Fiddle a bit with the filters man, you can't recognize anything on that sketcher.

>>184038452

Their lust for power and immortality drove them to dark magic.

>>184036806
You got your chronology mixed up.
>Guy named Settra conquers all of Nehekhara.
>Settra is obsessed with immortality.
>Establishes a priesthood to keep himself alive for longer.
>When they can't keep him alive any longer, he lets them mumify him with the promise that they'll continue working on a way to bring back from the dead in a perfect new body.
>Settra builds himself a pimpass pyramid to get his body inside. Gets his entire army put inside it as well
>This establishes a cultural fixation with pimpass burial proceedings and immortality.
>Nagash arrives, is a crazy asshole tyrant who finally figures out how to cheat death permanently (Hint: it involves dark magic).
>Nehekharans get angry and after a large war manage to kick him out of the country.
>Nehekhara continues on as before.
>Neferata, Queen of the Nehekharan City Lahmia, finds some of Nagash' old stuff.
>Finds out how to replicate his elixir of immortality.
>Couldn't quite make it work properly so you have to drink blood all the time to keep yourself alive.
>Oh well whatever.
>Suddenly all the nobles of Lahmia are blood drinking degenerates.
>Nehekharans get pissed and boot the vampires from the country. Burn down the city too.
>Vampires scatter around the world.
>Nagash comes back and casts an instant death spell that wipes out the entire Nehekharan nation. Turning it into a desert.
>This has a weird effect on the necropolises that the Nehekharan kings constructed hundreds of over the years.
>It reawakens all the old kings and their retinues.
>After a bunch of civil wars and clusterfuckery over who gets to rule, Settra comes back and sets everything in order.
>Nehekhara is now the home of dusty bones. They also really hate vampires, Chaos and especially Nagash.

>>184038204
They should get a gradual buffs for each confederation they do, and perhaps even special units/lords/heroes for confederating with certain provinces.

>Confederate with Nuln
>Get a special Steam Tank that you can recruit

Shit like that. You should also get factionwide buffs like +1 public order in all provinces with each confederation, -Upkeep, the works.

>>184038590

Shit anon wrong game. I don't know what that's from.

>>184036448
It's okay froggie, it's all gonna be over soon

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>>184038237
The same reason the skaven are always backstabbing eachother even though they're so numerous they could kill everyone in the world by working together.

When the Chaos Gods aren't breathing down the neck, or when the Undead aren't slaughtering their children, they're too busy fighting over petty bullshit and resources. Don't act like you don't covet the Nuln Gunnery School you little snake.

>>184038703
What kind of buffs?

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>>184038524
t. Van Gogh

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>>184038726

Legacy of Kain, "as were we all" made me think of it immediately.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DOKzTHaPfM

>>184038932
>You should also get factionwide buffs like +1 public order in all provinces with each confederation, -Upkeep, the works.

Nigga, can you read?

>>184039049
The second I saw this post I heard DUN DUUUN DUUUUUUUUUN KAIN IS DEIFIED in my head
I wish there was some general in Rome: TW going "Vae victis! hahahaahha!"

>>184039049

That's what I was quoting too anon but you got it wrong that's why I got confused.

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>>184038909

>tfw

>>184032502
But the bigger the skull, the thicker the bone fuckwad stop being retarded.

>>184039130
>you should get buffs
>you should also get factionwide buffs
Do you know what "also" means?

>>184039263

His contempt for humanity wouldn't really fit the Kangz, so I changed it.

>>184039426

Yeah fair enough, good catch though either way anon, you're a cool dude.

>>184039379
I know what "U" and R" means faget

>>184038959
how to do this

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>>184039272
Explain Karl Franz not dying to a full close up volley.

>>184039737

It's a video game.

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>>184039730
1. download fotosketcher
2. take screenshot
3.????
4. you are now an artist

>>184039737
He's a true alpha who can't die until he's fucked every woman in the world.

>>184033650
>von carstein that low
>beastmen that low
>WoC that high

>>184039920
too bad hes never fought wulfrik :^)

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>>184039835
Unacceptable give me another reason.

>>184039963
well all wulfrik fought were literal who's so it doesn't matter

>>184039737
SIGMAR PRESERVES HIM

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>>184040029
This.

>vote wulfrik
>all he does is show off his time in language courses

>vote throgg
>he beats the fuck out of Slaanesh's chosen and pisses on his corpse

>>184040124

*He finishes off an exhausted Sigvald who had had his hands literally cut off moments earlier by Krell

Wow so impressive

Sigmar was never my god

>>184040279
t. Sigvald

>>184025137

Araby have a lot of units from warmaster. Elephants for example, the fact that now we have Mammoths can be useful for them.

>>184039963
Literally who?

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@184040279
>Wow so impressive

unlike u LMAO

>>184040294

Indeed, Sigmar doesn't like assholes

>>184040428
Sigmar can't get enough of assholes.

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>>184040279
>He finishes off an exhausted Sigvald

>>184029384

>they will never fix the bug in the minimap

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>>184040472
stop it you

>>184040306
>>184040393

t. triggered Throggtards

Daily reminder that the election was rigged by Kislev. Not that it matters, Wulfrik will be first on the LL screen, so he automatically wins

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>>184040294
BY ULRICS WILL

>>184030393

They are like Hydra as model, but as animated for a videogame they should feel differently in my opinion.

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G O B L I N S

>>184040582
t. slayer of literally whos

>>184040582
t. piss boy

>>184040279
>Hands cut off
Nope hands mangled because the prissy bitch broke his sword, saw he got cut on the cheek and decided to beat Krell back to death with his bare hands. He then began to cry about it, forgetting that his armor grants him regeneration and all previous damage would be reversed if he just waited a second.

>>184040616
>There will never be a Middenlander faction with unique units.

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>Throgg's face when

>TWW2's campaign is about preserving/destroying the vortex
>TWW3's campaign is about the vortex being destroyed

screencap this

With all the shitflinging about a billion different events in the Warhammer canon, it occured to me; Why the fuck do GW even make up so much goddamn lore for a tabletop game?

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>Throgg can't beat one Slayer and his boyfriend

Top kek, as they say

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>>184041048
kek

>>184041094
It's mostly shit that was tacked on during the 30 some odd years it existed. It's not like the guys wrote all of this lore with the first edition and everything afterwards was the same shit regurgitated with minor tweaks. I mean hell, the chaos gods were barely like they are now in first edition.

>>184041094
Because they've been nonstop publishing magazine articles, novels, and codexes since the 80's, and they were complete nerds when they started out, which is why current GW, which is run by sales people and suits, got rid of the lore, which they don't understand or care about.

>>184041094
They make it so people will buy their miniatures. It worked.

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>>184041094

I love Warhammer but a fucking lot of it is shamelessly "borrowed" or "inspired" by other works or real life history.

It was also around for decades and had several supplements, background books and novels made for it. It all piles up over the years.

>>184041217
>implying anyone can beat Gotrek "the Ultimate Power Bottom" Gurnisson and Felix Jaeger

>>184041078
>TWW3 will have multiple world altering victory conditions featuring: The Vortex, the Oak of Ages and key temples in important cities. Destroying these sites grants grants the destructive forces different faction traits and hinders certain order factions, while defending and upgrading them grants boons for the faction protecting them.

>Should a large number be destroyed different corruption factors seethe map-wide allowing for daemonic/mass undead summonings and other unique campaign events

My dad's son works for CA can confirm

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Are there female hydras?

>>184041078
thats a pretty safe prediction to make anon

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I'm stoked about Snow Nigger DLC. I love playing savage murder machines from snowy hellholes. The only thing I'd like to play more is a rogue liche.

Why are Grail Guardians so fucking shit?

>>184036806

wrong

>>184038667

better

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>>184041672
>Nagash still not announced

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>>184042126

>>184042126
Love this classic artstyle from the 5th/6th ed books

>>184037715

Actually Empire is easy if you turtle in Altdorf waiting the chaos. But this is an absurd, how Karl Franz can be a good emperor with this coward tactics?

Actually a campaign started as united empire would me more difficult with an early invasion.

In every case they should made more thight relations for the provinces.

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Ah hell naw.

>>184038204
No confederation penalty
Easier alliances/confederation (no Distrust Empire bullshit)
Every territory fully allied/absorbed gets you tangible factionwide bonuses for certain units and characters

Reikland = higher income, increased recruit level for battle wizards and improves their hero success chance, bonus relations with Bretonnian kingdoms, Dwarf clans, Border Princes and Kislev
The Wasteland = tax bonus, bonus income from ports, higher income, decreases upkeep, bonus relations with Bretonnia
Wissenland = improved missile units and artillery
Averland = increased growth and replenishment rate
Stirland = bonus against VC units, lowered enemy agent actions, increased reduction in Chaos/VC influence
Middenland = increased recruit level for Warrior Priests and increases their hero success chance, increased recruit level for cavalry
Nordland = bonus income from ports, bonus against Chaos/Varg/Skaeling units
Talabcleland = higher income, bonus ambush chance and detection and improved cavalry
Ostermark = increased leadership, charge bonus, increased recruit level for Witch Hunters and increases their hero success chance, bonus relations with Kislev and Karak Kadrin
Hochland = increased ammunition, accuracy and rate of fire of missile and artillery units
Ostland = increased public order, increased recruit level for Empire Captain and increases their hero success chance

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>>184041094
Honestly, for a lot of people, the wargame is (was?) just a way to be involved with the background in a meaningful way. Same with the RPGs to an extent.

The worldbuilding is the fun part.

>>184042515
>No confederation penalty
There should be a Babby Mode beneath Easy for people like you.

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>>184042674
I will avenge the elf waifu

>>184042674
The High Elves aren't having a great time of it in these trailers, are they?
At least is wasn't poor old Generic High Elf Prince again.

>>184042674

What was that madwoman thinking, exactly? It's a fucking Hydra, bring in a Bolt Thrower.

>>184042794
someone post the one with the count of skulls

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>>184042674
>high elf bullying continues
Christmas in July

>>184042904
She didn't know Hydras have grab attacks, usually you just wait for the heads to miss you and then hack them off with a Zweihander like a cool guy

>>184042674
The animation seems to play at her arms being torn off by the other heads. I wonder if they'll tear her arms off in-game? They've gone light on the decapitation in the promotional shit so far.

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>>184042674
>you will get to rescue qt elf princess waifus from nasty hydra monsters in TW:WH2
can't wait. Imma write a fapfic for this with a lot of handholding.

>>184043213
its because CA never shows blood and gore in their trailers because you have to pay for it seperately.
At least they are honest.

>>184043000
I want to Christmas in her July, if you decipher my crypto drifto

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>>184042674
>you will never have a hydra pet to feed high elven sluts to

Feels bad man.

>>184043315

What did he mean by this?

>>184043290
Ah right, this game gets so much goddamn DLC I forgot the blood stuff costs $3.

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Which games in the series do you have? Which do you not have? Why have you skipped those?

>Shogun 1
>Medieval 1

The combat looks fucking terrible.

>Rome 2 and Attila sort of, because I only have like 2 hours in it but got it on a whim during a sale

See above.

>>184043910
I love the look of the combat in Medieval 1

>>184043363
Morathi is literally the setting's worst whore. Or best whore, considering how far her whoring has taken her.

>>184043910
every one except shogun

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>>184043910
>warhammer II

>>184043910
>Which games in the series do you have?
Attila, Warhammer, Rome 2, & Napoleon
>Which do you not have?
The rest I guess
>Why have you skipped those?
I heard that Napoleon is overall better than Empire. I heard that FotS is good but I haven't found a good torrent for it

>>184043910
S1 and M1 were perfectly fine when they came out.

I own all of them but I still have to play napoleon because I can't bring myself to play on a smaller map than empire, and attila/warhammer because I was waiting for graphic cards prices to get lower and finally get an upgrade, turns out they got higher

So it's possible to make a mod that would reduce the HP of Lords & heroes significantly, but give them a bodyguard so they have some meatshields / elite units protecting them at all times.

This would basically make generals a lot more like how they are in other TW games and make things more realistic as a whole.

Would it be a good idea?

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>>184044501
>Malekith and Morathi can be at war
>if he kills her he becomes Malekith the Whoresbane

>>184038703
A reduce on the tax increase you get from multiple armies by confederating?

>>184044729
>laughs at you in Shyish

>>184044501
>ywn have kids with Morathi

>>184044731
do you think she grabs his smoldering dick as tenderly as she grabbed his arm?

>>184044843
>Shyish
The hell is that?

>>184040023
Blessed by sigmar and covered with plot armor.

>>184044881
Nah, she must tug at it with full force so he can feel anything.

>>184044881
I don't think she uses her hands for that ;^)

>>184044897
Wind of death.

>>184044897
The Wind of Shyish is what is manipulated into the Lore of Death.

I like your idea, I would like lords to not go head first solo into blocks of good stuff, no idea how to do it

>>184044881

Malekith's not a little boy anymore, he likes it when Mother plays rough.

>>184045046
Bitch is probably so overly proficient that she could jerk you off with her ear.

>>184043910
I've played every total war besides phoneshit and arena

>>184045006
>>184045046
>>184045351
I better get some steamy rule 34 when WH2 comes out or Im gonna be pissed.

>Malekith is Aenarion's son
>Morathi was Aenarion's wife
>Tyrion and Teclis are both direct descendants of Aenarion

That must make for some awkward christmas dinners.

>>184045169
Yeah desu as soon as I posted that I imagined what would happen in an actual battle and then I remember that in half the battles I play their lord runs head first into my battle line and get shot to shit, despite being an absolute sponge.

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mfw Malekith was suppose to be the phoenix king He just didnt stand in the fire long enough :^)

>>184045903

Did the heat get to his head?

>>184045647
Its tough because Patch 1 lord sniping was a stupid way to play the game. You definitely want characters to go in there and do cool stuff but at the same time I don't like every game against dorfs their whole army is dead and it comes down to 3 dudes vs 300 that is still in the air.

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>>184044731
Imagine being Malekith in that scene and having to be all like "damn, Mother, you fuckin' fine, all sexy with your tight body and horrific androgynous monster face. I would totally have sex with you, both as Witch King and as a son." when all he really wants to do is fuck another 16 year old in his torture chamber. Like seriously imagine having to be Malekith and not only stand menacingly in that gateway while Mother flaunts her disgusting body in front of you, the favorable lighting barely concealing her stretchmarks she got birthing you and dirty, leathery skin, and just stand there, take after take, hour after hour, while she perfected that barefoot walk. Not only having to tolerate her monstrous fucking visage but her haughty attitude as everyone on set tells her she's STILL GOT IT and DAMN, MORATHI LOOKS LIKE *THAT*?? because they're not the ones who have to stand there and watch her mannish fucking hag face contort into types of grimaces you didn't even know existed before that day. You've been fucking nothing but a healthy diet of high elven maidens and slaves and later alleged rape victims for your ENTIRE CAREER coming straight out of the boonies in Nagarythe. You've never even seen anything this fucking disgusting before, and now you swear you can taste the sweat that's breaking out on her dimpled ancient stomach as she sucks it in to writhe it suggestively at you, smugly assured that you are enjoying the opportunity to get paid to stand there and revel in her "statuesque (for that is what she calls herself)" beauty, the beauty she worked so hard for with blood sacrifices in the previous months. And then the trailer director calls for another take, and you know you could kill every single person on this pathetic little island before Alith Anar could put you down, but you stand there and endure, because you're fucking Malekith. You're not going to lose your future phoenix throne over this. Just bear it. Hide your face behind a mask and bear it.

>>184045903
Considering CAs designated lore guy said that he fell backwards out of the fire instead of forward is pretty interesting considering they said that they're not dealing with ET canon.

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fresh meme

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>>184046054
burn this pasta

>>184046016
Yeah but it should be tough to use characters, they should have a huge effect but be fairly vulnerable.

At the moment they don't have a huge effect, unless they get a monster mount, they just kind of stand their killing a few troops with each attack and getting barely dented with their hideous amount of HP.

Even in battles where I've gotten 600+ kills in Grimgor it hasn't been epic, it's just been a slog and he can't really be killed by any basic troops so he wracks up an insane amount of kills.

>>184045903
So he failed the test then? I don't understand

>>184042517
>Bögenhafen
>Faghaven
kek

>>184029231
>konichiwa, sakinku~

make the font bold or increase the size

>>184046370

Nice

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>when you stack one too many recruitment buffs as dawi and get rank 9 veterans for pennies

>sudden break in chaos invasion
>Manage to run Karl over to vampire faggots
>He backs up my warrior priests army and they smash shit
>Burn most of their lands before taking that sweet gold mine
>Blast manlet with my cannon and finally wipe them out for good
Fucking shitbag vampires