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This day in history, 27th of July:
1299 – According to Edward Gibbon, Osman I invades the territory of Nicomedia for the first time, usually considered to be the founding day of the Ottoman state.
1866 – The first permanent transatlantic telegraph cable is successfully completed, stretching from Valentia Island, Ireland, to Heart's Content, Newfoundland.
1900 – Kaiser Wilhelm II makes a speech comparing Germans to Huns; for years afterwards, "Hun" would be a disparaging name for Germans.
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Old Thread: >>183900954
Lets do this again laddos. This time I know what to do so I don't get raped by the religious war
Are you allowed to blob as non white men since they did not blob IRL and so deserve to make up for it in games?
>>184006331
hey mate is it just me or if you have any over extention in M&T you get no manpower recovery
This is the most beautiful Austria every created.
buetifefel
>>184006464
Overextension reduces your max manpower, so you won't recover if you're above that new max.
>>184006331
based random 30 prestige event
>>184006464
Yes, overextension reduces your manpower cap and tax income. I think that it's supposed to simulate sending an army to police the occupied provinces or something like that
BUT you can demand a fuckton of manpower from the Greater Nobility for some 5 loyalty cost
useful infopic
How to change province cultures in M&T?
>>184006747
You don't accept the cultures you want to replace and simply let the game slowly integrate them into your main culture. Posting culture map at the start of the game because I'll need it as a reference for the future when all of this becomes Persian
uhh you dont get to bring friends
I dont have friends
Reposting from previous thread:
Thinking of starting a new run in EU4 as a Native American, but with a difference. Instead of sealing off the coasts, I want to conquer only the Great Lakes states of the US (Michigan, Illinois, Indiana, Wisconsin, Ohio) and play tall, pumping lots of excess mana into Cahokia and Kaskasia (farmland provinces). I may conquer Euro colonised territory, but will carve it into buffer clients later where able.
What would be some good ideas to be taking for this, or starting nations? For idea groups, I know economic is essential, and Quantity complements it with the Economic-Quantity policy. I can probably ignore religious/humanist because of the low province count, but I might go Protestant at some point. As for nations, Shawnee starts with unique ideas, a strong position and 2 provinces, but Illini can migrate straight to farmland, and Potawatomi and Fox aren't much further. Iroquois is also nearby and has unique ideas if I feel like adding upstate NY to this miniblob, while I could alternatively cheese a migration with Cherokee and use them too, because of their fort bonus idea.
>>184006292
Why such a short this day in history, anon?
>>184006881
oh boysadly all of those provinces will turn into 100 autonomy (i.e useless) since they're far from the capital
You can go now, EU4 reddit babbys, your precious R&Infopic is dead.
>>184007132
>i.e. useless
They feed your estates money that the estates then use to build stuff, it's not a bad deal.
Reddit's favorite game is victoria 2 actually, we don't like EUIV much back there.
>WE
Is pakistan a formable nation in MnT?
If so imma do a pakistan run and make itSikh as fuck
does that make eu4... ...white and based... ...woah
First time Milan playthough here. Goal is to form Italy. What are the best ideas for the Ambrosian Republic? Im about to pick my first idea group now.
>>184007132
That was fast
>>184007356
True, but it also makes the estates incredibly powerful, which then makes the negative penalties from both revoking and giving them privileges seriously damaging. I think that the revolt privilege gives about +8 revolt for every province they hold if they go above 50% influence, which is insane if you're playing a nation with 30% religious unity like mine. I had a lot of issues with estates in my last Persia game, but they did give me two times my manpower cap when I demanded it everytime so there's that as well
>>184007690
>cropping
To:184007370
GEE SG, 12 THREADS?
>>184007690
Defensive ideas
Conquer north africa first, its easier
>combine a dozen autists each with their own brand of untried and untested austic personality disorder that makes them controlling as fuck
>surprised when everyone tries to force everhone else to use their thread
>>184006464
Here's why you're having manpower issues
Nice continent Anglo
Why's everyone playing reddit universalis?
>>184007442
You know what m8? That's a good idea.
>>184007690
Vanilla looks so small...
>>184008003
>implying overextension's going to stop me from blobbing my rightful cores
okay please stop playing reddit now
>>184008442
All of the southeast asian islands, including the philipines
Formosoa/taiwan
Sri Lanka
Madagascar
Australia and New Zealand
South Africa
Qatar and Bahrein
Japan
>>184008442
Eat Belgium, eat as much of the East Indies/SEAsia as possible, kick the Brits out of India and claim the Jewel for yourself, reclaim South Africa and go Cape to Cairo.
>>184008658
Japan is too far bro
whats fun to play in ck2
>>184008987
Try to form the kingdom of Khotan
>>184008658
This isn't EU4, you nigger.
>>184008442
See pic related.
>>184009170
I know this isnt
Git gud nigger
New Zealand, Philipines, and Australia are rightful Dutch Indonesian clay
Japan are also island niggers and must be under the dominion of the swamp niggers
The Swamp Nigger is the rightful overlord of all Island Niggers
>>184009426
>Philipines
Nice EU4 blob. Why don't you take all of China as well?
>>184009517
They arnt island niggers
So no
>>184009692
Why not take the entire eastern hemisphere?
>>184009841
Because he's not good enough at the game lmao
Is the Heavenly kingdom Catholic or Prod? I hardly think the Pope would be happy with an upstart Chink claiming he was the brother of Christ.
>>184010062
It's an absolutely bizarre form of Protestantism.
>>184010163
I mean in liqqy.
Is there a mod to get rid of this stupid fucking face from the game?
>>184010685
>not even the worst face
>>184007095
Economic, Quantity, Diplomatic, Expansion, Quality, Influence, Espionage, Innovative. Not in that order, but you'll need influence and espionage to handle big, rebellious vassals and client states.
>>184010662
Back in common sense before corruption I teched diplo tech for 30 bird mana.
Several times in a row.
I immediately went from like dip tech 7 to dip tech 23 and built a fleet of threedeckers
>>184011072
>Economic, Quantity
I second these two because of the dev cost from econ and the dev cost policy.
>but you'll need influence and espionage to handle big, rebellious vassals and client states.
You can bring their liberty desire by developing a bit in them.
>paradoax
>>184011071
So what is?
>>184011520
>are you frustrated?
>>184011520
Bravo, Johan.
>>184011685
The fat white guy. The one with 3 chins that you see just cucked you for the 3rd wife and the has given birth to all 3 of the emperrs heirs.
>>184011813
>>184011685
He also needs to be bald, or have that really bad comb over.
>>184011520
me on the bottom
>>184006497
This triggers the autist.
Can I play EU or HoI on my phone?
>>184012749
HoI4 is a mobile game.
>>184012634
t. casual gamer pro
>most of africa is "african minor"
>HPM thinks this is acceptable
>>184013083
But hes changing that
>>184013195
For fucks sake, lad, I was trying to summon him. It would have worked had you not said anything.
>>184013083
>tries to realize leopold's autistic ambitions
>goes commie
Is there a way I can act against my council during a regency in CK2?
I died during a Crusade but finally had a son with my lesbian wife when my matrilineal daughter's eldest was 13, so now I'm stuck with a 138/8 demense and a council that refuses to let me distribute any land and I don't want to sit like this for 12 more years
>>184012892
Another low energy meme. Is all this one sentence shit in here you?
grorious
>>184013337
Not really, laddo, I just need a government with planned economy that can gas.
>>184013536
t. two sentence pro
>>184013742
white men
>>184013606
Northumbria was a mistake.
>>184013781
rule the world
>>184013613
couldn't you have gone absolute monarchy and then appoint a socialist party with planned economy?didn't know the commie flag for belgium looked that good
>>184013613
>119/71
why the FUCK are you recruiting soldiers that you will kill in a decade?
>>184013456
>playing with Conclave on
First mistake.
>>184014043
Socialists can't control absolute monarchies, only constitutional and semi-constitutional ones.
>>184013613
>those flemish pops vs walloon pops
Holy shit, did Flanders get the baby boom event?
>>184013456
There is nothing you can do but look on what is going to happen as something that would realistically happen if you had a 140 domain in 12 motherfucking 42.
>>184014074
>>184014241
Well, nuts
I just wanted to release Andalusia from Umayyad control, but none of the other Crusaders could actually fight the Saracens competantly
>>184014412
Crusader states fell to bits all the time. It's a shitty thing to happen because of a game mechanic that has suddenly worked against you but see if you can get your RP and headcanon on and imagine something out of it.
>>184014557
>see if you can get your RP and headcanon on and imagine something out of it
I'm already doing that
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1syVzNITq6_ddv7zHvjuesHv4jxXepzk3AiUMTBXkp-Y/edit?usp=sharing
>>184014676
>over 100 pages
I love this general
>>184014914
I have until 1453
>>184007095
>those states
Yeah, there's farmland, but also lots of woods and savannah. Not exactly ideal. It'd be like making a tall Ireland.
Better than tall greenland though.
>>184014676
This is the sort of autism I love. Cheers for the link m8 got something to read at work now.
>>184014676
You're a good person.
>>184014676
This is what /gsg/ should be.
>>184014676
Now that's some autism
pretty disgusting desu senpai
>>184014676
noice
>>184014676
white men
>>184006292
>blobbers are allowed in this thread
disgusting
>>184006497
>Apenland
>>184015971
Give away Crimean possessions you disgusting blob cunt
>>184015971
>not taking Alexandria and leaving a bunch of trade cities in your wake as you head towards India for more trade
>>184006497
Everybody in this world is going to move to the Americas or have their children turned into Jannissaries.
>>184015971
for what
>>184016428
So, just like modern Europe?
>>184016530
Times ten. Being called names because you're a Quaker is a bit different from having your children raped.
>>184016271
found the russian
If genoa properly defended their Crimean possessions I doubt they'd just give it off when just in trade alone it makes more $$$ than most countries make ingame
>>184016397
>blobbing ahistorically through africa/asia
alexandria looks ugly af and meiou didnt think to give a little enclave city on the Egypt mainland so Crete allows me to steal all the egypt trade
I literally have 0 trade ships
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devshirme
Remember that Vladimir Tepes hated the Ottomans because he was raped every night by roaches
>>184016705
You can't complain about blobbing and hold the Crimea.
anyone tried going Tengri for their Three Mountains?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lnkJlJKoFvo
Underrated and very flexible religion, plus you can culture flip to manchu to raise banners
>>184013083
around 5% of the population in Persia is African Minor which makes me extremely mad. hopefully HPM fixes that in the next update since he's flooding Persia with Precious Metal RGOs
Why was Beornwulf the 'cursed crusader' based CK2 autist? Also what do you mean by "he defended the animals of the realm"?
H A B B E N I N
Sucks though because fuckers didn't wait for me to get in position
>>184016747
>Vladimir
It's Vlad. He wasn't a sl*v
>>184017117
I've never played a game where I didn't dismantle the Ottomans. Do they blob like this in every campaign if you leave them alone?
>>184016984
I called him cursed because he got healed by a mystic who made him hear devil voices continuously throughout his reign, so much that I stopped caring about them. Also, the voices turned him gay, but he continued to be a pious man despite all of this.
I said he "defended the animals of the realm" because when the plague reared its head, he stopped the people from throwing out all the cats because he happened to have a pet cat who was his friend.
Meanwhile, I didn't turn off fantasy events (I was fine with madmen fighting cthulu before Paradox went full ahistorical), so Beornwulf became a werewolf killed his grandson.
>>184017284
yes, main reason i play meth in texas
>>184017441
became a werewolf and killed his grandson*
>>184017117
>It's Vlad. He wasn't a sl*v
thx for the save
what was he then? i thought everyone down there a slav
>>184017675
>>184017117
His father was wallachian and his mother moldavian. Unless we are talking about von carstien and not von teppes.
>>184006331
So I got wrecked by the religious war for a third time and completely restarted once again. It seems that I was retarded all along and that you can purge heretics from the start if you don't absorb the heretic Persian provinces and reduce your religious unity below 50% by doing that. Moreover, all of the provinces I got had a 100% autonomy which made my estates seriously powerful, which lead to me having to give them all their demands and 15 corruption, which translates into +15% mana cost for everything.
Now I know that I shouldn't blob like a fucking retard and stabilize my country before doing so.
>>184016830
>holds it in the beginning of the game
>doesnt even hold mainland crimea
>alliance with russia to push the PLC out of crimea
>gave russia all the land
>blobbing
>>184017675
He was a superior Vlach.We are a melting pot of slavs, latins, thracians, a bit of germans and a bit of whoever steppe tribe decided to graze here from time to time
>still no in game calculator for the best autistic min maxing in every paradox game
>>184015113
The terrain is really not that big of an obstacle.
The most important thing is good trade goods.
The difference between development 30 and 32 is a difference of +18% dev cost.
Compared to +15% dev cost between grassland and woods.
I'm playing as Castille and wanna puppet Portugal, should I do it early on or later when they've colonized?
>planning to burn down the """empire""" within literally a year
>get to hold a banquet with the imperial reps
>all the dutchmen in Amsterdam get to be their smugest as the inferior germans as they walk around blissfully ignorant
>>184017675
Latin, like French and Italians.
>>184018724
Attack Poland so Ottomans can conquer them lmao
>>184019060
>>184018724
dude stop memeing and remove kebab
>>184019201
>Stop memeing
>Remove kebab
>>184019548
By divine right hail and kill
>>184017941
Now that's FAR better. Now I can blob my Persian cores without any consequences
WHY WON'T PARADOX FIX THE FUCKING GERMAN AI
OH WAIT I KNOW WHY, IT'S BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO FIX IT AND THEN SELL IT TO US IN A £30 DLC
>>184019894
>parakikes
>fixing anything at all
jesus fuck
>>184019894
>THEY'RE GOING TO FIX IT AND THEN SELL IT TO US IN A £30 DLC
lol no, they're going to tell us they fixed it then sell us a £30 DLC that has a bunch of new AI problems.
>>184020156
fix that shit you caused this
>>184020156
just doing my part
>>184020156
ATTACK BRANDENBURG AND POLAND SO OTTOMANS CONQUER MORE.
>>184020398
By 1900 France and NL will be Turkish. You lost the game.
>>184020156
I bet all those Proddies are happy now
[muted call to prayer can be heard in the background]
>>184020710
Deus vult my boy.inb4 the turks btfo two thirds of the entire planet on their own
oh boy
>>184022560
>retreated at 2k casualties
pussies
>>184022747
>4.2k this time plus the 6k leaderless stack about to suicide into me
Kill all the muslims
the moslems haven't even converted europe
such tolerance
>>184022964
White and based
>>184022912
>that attrition
Which reminds me to choose the defensive idea that gives +1 attrition to all my provinces as that will obviously obliterate the entire Ottoman army in the future when they attack me, as 90% of my provinces are desert/mountains
Is this redpilled?
>>184023265
Engineering and Logistics both have one and both are great idea groups since everything was nerfed into the dirt. Since you dont need to colonize it should be easy to get.
1-3: Comfy democratic Spain with just very few colonies in Africa and Asia
4-6: Christino Spain with a new colonial empire in Asia and Africa
7-9: Carlist Spain and reconquer the old colonial empire
0: Go outside
Pretty numbers: Conquer both the old colonial empire and make a new one
feels like ww2 germany desu
>retard blobs too much
>rest of the world goes apeshit and gangs them up from all sides
>>184023541
Carlist Spain
>>184023426
play m&t mp with me
>>184023541
Rolling
Odd: Tramas faggots
Even: Barcho lesbians
>>184023995
Skipping the new world it is.
>>184023426
>go for full attrition build
>europe comes and takes all land before months change
>takes over the cities by breaking walls and spamming assault
While it sounds like a good build its not that great late game.
Dubs decide which nation I play next.
>>184024640
Satsuma
Escape to rhodesia
Should Czechia be part of Germany?
>>184024956
Close my man, but try again.
>>184024640
one of the shitty African minors near lake victoria
>>184024407
>While it sounds like a good build its not that great late game.
It's really mostly as a deterrent against the Mamluk 30 doomstack or the Ottoman 80 deathstack
>>184023436
>Engineering and Logistics
I'm not sure since I haven't unlocked them yet, but didn't Engineering also give something like +25% damage to artillery? If that's the case then I can use this province (or a similar if I advance towards the Ottomans) as my main buffer fort while dumping an average-sized bait inf/art stack with a very good general which will technically obliterate pretty much any enemy unit, as the tight combat width will allow for my buffed artillery to slaughter their few front divisions constantly. An increased arty damage would truly help with those tactics
I thought that would have been harder, but the Turks avoided naval battles even tho they had like a +10 galley advantage. They lost ~45k troops by landing in Catalonia and Sicily and getting stackwiped. They got a 19k army over to Tunis in the beginning but fucked off and marched around the oasis provinces eating that attrition
>>184025572
what did you gain
>>184024956
>>184025329
Weak choices, therefore weak dubs.
cucked
Nice game paradoxards
>>184026550
>armies havent shat themselves before
Didnt Poland beat 10k russian "infantry" with 300 cav at one battle or something? I remember wastching a video on it.
>>184027034
>>184027178
I dont know how I got the numbers wrong...
second cucking coming
not cool
I just got my 23andMe back, what should I play in CK2, EUIV, or Vicky 2 in celebration?
I think I just conscripted the women and children
>>184027927
Play UK in vic2
Conquer the world
>>184027927
>north african
BLACKED
>>184027927
>m-muh heritage
you're american, aren't you?
>>184027927
>North African
>>>>>>>>>>"""""""white"""""""
play some Kongo so you can be kanz like your ancestors, darkie
I rolled this for EU4 so when Im blobbing I dont want any complaints, I rolled randomly and it wants me to Crusade for Christ all the way through Asia to colonize California. Its not my fault that you cant have a better states system where you can release people and have them be semi autonomous.
>>184027927
horrible genetics, would be ashamed to post this meself
>>184006475
What mod lads?
really makes you think
>>184027927
Play as Egypt
Colonize/annex all of Africa
>>184028295
That's one real badass general if I've ever seen one.
>>184028013
>>184028423
Good suggestions, may give it a shot.
>>184028050
I would, except it clearly doesn't say "Central African".
>>184028017
Clearly if I was black, it would say "Subsaharan African," no? :^)
just like deus vult my man
>>184028841
White people don't namefag so yes you're black
>>184028220
Still Mayo in Texas.
Should constantinople be a client free city or part of the empire?
>>184022964
please stay on topic and discuss the gamesGood post tho
>>184028957
Just declaring where I stand, infidel :^)
>>184029680
Give it to Russia
Rate my GROBGERMANIUMS
>>184023436
>>184023265
>using meme idea groups
you realize big powers basically have infinite manpower right?
the only good mil idea groups are those that boost your army and economy
Is Realpolitiks any good?
>>184030974
>doesn't have sudetenland
Shit/10
Also is that the Soviet Union? Ayy, why haven't you destroyed it?
the germans hunger for blood
>>184031418
Only late game. Middle and early game Ottoman are starvign for manpower which is when youll need them. Besides the idea groups are amazing in other ways. Honestly better then the others if it werent for the others leading to better idea groups.
This is gotta be one of the worst maps I've seen in a Vicky game in a long time.
>Gross Germany
>Bolivia
>Qing blobbing in Arabia and Africa (Trucial States are majority Han)
>USA-Canada border
>All of Africa
>Japan a secondary power republic
>The utter state of France
>>184031812
logistic is good only for the faster seiges, youll lose more manpower than the enemy unless you're just blobbing
ditto for leadership being good
3% attrition is peanuts
to a 40k army 3% attrition over a 12 month siege is only 14k loss, which isnt much for a 5 year war
keep in mind the attrition doesnt do anything to modify the real killer, the outbreak events which is why you want to be able to seige fast and beat thier armies
>>184032186
>qin blobbing in Africa
Empire of Dust (1915)
>>184031648
>>doesn't have sudetenland
Are you retarded?
>>184031648
I do have the Sudetenland. Are you retarded?
>got memed on by the succession event again
God fucking damnit Gigau pull your shit together
>>184032508
>tfw in Germany and still don't know where is the Sudetenland
How am I going to be able to sing with those Burschis? Fuck.
>>184032202
Engineering gives the build cost reduction. getting that and economics early lets you spam your fishing ports which is a huge help later in the game. But thats only for places like England and ERE.
>>184032601
>confusing Slovakia with Czechia
That's a quick way to piss off a Czech lmao
>>184032584
That's cool and all but now all of my provinces have devastation. And my new ruler is 34 years old
fuck
>>184025572
There's the first round of vassal integration. I'll do Souss next, and then integrate all three remaining vassals at once. I'll wait until I get some idea group with separatism reduction before I grab the rest of Tunis.
I think Tripoli's eastern most province is the farthest east I'll go in North Africa. If i go furth into Egypt it'll be client states.
>>184025572
Yellow land east of the orange and blue. Vassals now.
>>184027927
>North African
Kongo and be a kang
>>184031418
this. I only go below 100k whenI'm mass building roads
anyone got that pic of the kid giving all of europe to serbs and germany
How do you cancel a vassalage?
>>184032186
>USA
What the absolute fuck put it down
What's a good starting comfy nation for M&T?Would Portugal for pure colonization be good?
>>184036334
hell yeah
remember to take Galicia during the Castillian Civil War
>>184036334
Comfy would be Ireland. Just keeping everyone away from you. Maybe Venice controlling the Trade nodes. But I tend to go full colonist though Egypt when I play them.
>>184035662
Think you gotta revoke march. March status protects them against a lotta stuff, 'swhy they like it.
Hmm.
>>184006292
I'm nearing the end of a HO4 Italy game.
I started out with invading France and Yugoslavia, and then Greece and Romania all without triggering war with the UK. Then I turtled and built up until Germany invaded Poland and then went to war against the Soviet Union.
While that was going on I invaded Turkey and then pushed into the Soviet Union from Romania and Turkey while Germany held up most of their troops.
After annexing large parts of the Soviet Union I again built up for 2 more years until the UK declared war on me. Then I took control of the Mediterranean and invaded Iraq, puppeted Persia and then conquered India and Australia before occupying the British Isles.
I just have the US left and know I could win as I have way more factories/resources/puppeted troops at my disposal and a bunch of nukes but don't want to waste 2 or 3 more hours on a boring and anti-climatic campaign I know I could win.
Does /gsg/ have a consensus on the right settings to make HO4 a fun challenge with regards to the difficulty setting and the sliders that boost various nations?
This game was kinda easy and I would like more of a challenge but I don't know what settings strike the right balance between a fun challenge and being stupidly unfair.
>>184037432
this map looks like ass
>>184036897
Wiping out France is always to be commended since they are one of the many enemies of the White Man but not if it means the Turk gets to devour Poland.
>>184037432
There is no way to make HoI4, why won't you fucking idiots get that. The "consensus" on /gsg/ is that HoI4 is terrible, and you should feel bad for playing it.
>>184036897
Reminds me of that WWI picture of germany and Austria being erased off the map
Check out my epic one faith grossgermanium lads.
>>184038412
>Imperial Africa in Asia
Bravo,Johan.
What is the best religious idea in M&T? Playing as Georgia.
Is the anon who was going to work on the rape mod around?I didn't see you respond to >>183888685
>>184037432
Nigger, you can win against USA as Mexico or Canada by just drawing the attack line to major cities.
>>184037843
I tried getting into HO3 but the autistic micromanagement was too boring for me.
I have a social life and prefer reading to vidya and so I have no interest in taking the time to set up the command/HQ etc interface again every single time I send my troops to battle in a new area.
I even enjoy the micromanagement of dwarf fortress but HO3 for me reached the point where it was no longer fun and just became tedious.
>>184038412
Where's your capitol?
from the ashes
>>184038871
>I have a social life
Leave
>>184038887
Bermuda.
>>184038913
one of the ugliest maps I've seen here
so this is the power of elan
Johan killed my family
oh fuck
like pottery
looking good my dudes. just gotta take some more west africa. I wish my allies would stop fighting each other. I can't choose who to support
>>184041259
never cross a merchant
>>184041305
Sounds like you would be better with no allies if they keep dragging you into wars instead of preventing them.
>>184041516
it's nice to have some support in case China decides to want to rape my ass over Macau. also sometimes the Turks get involved in my wars if there's the right cascading alliance
>>184041792
>EU3
>no blobs
You using any mods?
>>184014676
Oh baby. Fuck playing games, I'm reading this today. Nice
>>184042173
yeah just some things to make borders less ugly
>>184041792
I refuse to believe that the AI managed to make such a world in EU3
>>184043096
it needs a lot of help. it's hard finding a balance between good borders and railroading
>>184044178
too bad you can't console yourself literacy, industry or undesignate the designated shitting streets
why is this happening? Is this a bug?
>>184041792
How much shit did you changeowner?
>>184044463
>not defending your own puppet
>>184044654
it won't let me, the option is greyed out
>>184032186
Neither Rylock nor HPM added anything to the what if scenario of the US winning the 54' or Fight war, so you might as well never look back at North America ever again in case they do so.
What's a good colonial nation and province name mod for EUIV?
>>184045065
Meiou, Ireland.
>>184045065
Stupidtopia
Fagworld
Semen City
Buenos Aires
Gayland
Retard town
>>184045310
You forgot California
>How autistic do I need to be to learn eu4?
Watched around 5 hours worth of tutorial videos and dabbled as Portugal and Castille for a few games but cant even keep my states profitable, let alone try and fuck with the Moores.
Im a history nut and really want to get into this but fuck me I am completely bamboozled. I watched one streamer and he is removing heavy ships and colonising from day one while another is messing with estates and prosperity meanwhile I have no money and it takes me 900 days to siege Granada whilst Morocco is hammering away at my capital.
Any recommendations or am I a lost cause?
>>184045310
Nice mods you literal manchild
>>184045310
Thanks for the mod suggestions, I'll just----
Oh wait, you illiterate chimp.
wasn't there a trading bonus/modifier coming with building the suez/panama?
>>184045896
Is it just flavor or are there some nice modifiers? Can you sail ships through now?
>>184032921
>Plague completely passed me over, stopping at my border with France and when I got the event of it appearing in one of my ports, it still passed over that province
BASED IBERIA #1 PLAGUE CAN'T TOUCH MENow that I said that I know it's gonna fuck me over next time
>>184040739
panic.jpg
>>184045896
just the prestige I think
>>184038412
Does this mean Africa has more provinces than Europe or Asia?
>>184045725
Add onto this my fucking cunt allies want favour whenever I try to remove those goat fuckers from Iberia. However, when they enter stupid wars I am bound to join and lose prestige.
Should I disable dlc until im not a fuckwit?
>>184045740
now this is a proper revolution
>>184045980
you can sail through
>>184045982
I think I had vicky in mind, still not sure though
Can someoneplease :3post a link for the Warhammer mod?
Looks like it was updated.
dismantle'd
If I use 2 "Free people" wargoals at the same time, and they overlap, how does Vicky II decide which nation to give the land to?
I was France fighting the Ottomans, and Both Russia and I each used a free people wargoal on the same space. I wanted to free Kurdistan and they wanted Syria. In the end it was Kurdistan, even on the part of the province with only Syrian cores...
>>184045725
Morroco isn't that easy to take on as PT, they have about the same force limits as you. Ally tclemen or someone if you want to fuck them over, and also Spain
>>184046683
>that yellow
Youre not done yet
not the only one with rebels up the ass for my 230% overextension
>>184046683
>Dutch colonial names when every other country is in English
>>184047617
>0 manpower
>negative income
>not even at war
>has loans
You fucked up
>>184047617
>playing EUIV
Your parents fucked up
>>184047809
It's because of my overextension. Once Peru pops out, it's back to normal
Hawaii is not a state.
>>184048831
No but it is part of the HRE
>>184046317
Please lads.
>>184047996
>>184047809
like this
Is Arcade for casuals, or is it a matter of convenience?
I didn't ask for this.
>>184048910
>>184046317
http://www.mediafire.com/file/84cnxn3n8wdz1sm/geheimnisnacht+1.1.0.zip
Well this is awkward
>>184049195
I know how you feel, that happens every time as England and some times I just inherit it and I dont even want that land but I can vassalize it because theyll be pissy about it.
>>184049404
why
Hey guys im currently playing Holland in EU4, I just got exploration ideias but i noticed i dont have the range to colonize. What should I do? I was thinking about conquering one of the Portuguese islands. Is this a good ideia?
>>184049195
But you have it now.
Think of it as the War of Spanish Succession, with higher stakes. Crusade forth, save your brothers in France from damnnation at the hands of the Pope.
>>184038871
No one said anything about HoI3.
>>184036445
how do u stop le english blob into you? they always come after me in the first 30 years
>>184049231
Thanks lad you're a real human bean
>>184050031
I always just custom nationed as the Pale and took over from there leaving everyone with one province as my vassal. Never had problems because I refused to deal with it. For all the shit England had to deal with for those barren plots of land I just alternate time lined that the released them.
>>184038871
try darkest hour if you can stand the UI there is less micromanaging but its not baby mode like HOI4
>>184050347
>if you can stand the UI
What is that supposed to mean? Its UI is better than nu-Paradox macfag apple gay jew UI
>>184049845
>save your brothers in France from damnnation at the hands of the Pope.
Slight problem.
Definitely going to hang onto them though, if only to prevent them blobbing everywhere.
>>184050674
>What is that supposed to mean? Its UI is better than nu-Paradox macfag apple gay jew UI
yes but the number one complaint I hear about darkest hours in the UI personally I don't mind it
Rate my epic Prussian Germania game /b/ros
>>184045982
Time for endless religious wars
>Victoria 2 is a complex ga-
https://www.reddit.com/r/cwgamedev/comments/5t4rd4/developer_update_food_agriculture/
>>184045725
>>184046002
You're a beginner, youtubers have 1k hours at a minimum. Portugal is a fine choice for a beginner if you want peaceful trade and colonisation, not conquest.
Leave dlc on.
You join AI wars because you've ticked the 'join offensive wars' box for that AIs alliance. They may not always want favours, look up how to offer land instead...oftentimes they'll be happy to join if you split the conquest with them.
If you want to conquer north west africa as a beginner, go Castille, not Portugal....and don't be afraid to take things slow until you get the Iberian Wedding....then the Moors'll not stand a chance unless they've somehow allied Ottomans....or France.
Keeping states profitable is easy: don't let them get devastated in losing wars. Don't spend too much money on heavy ships or forts you don't need.
>>184049195
ANGLO-FRENCH UNION
N O W
O
W
About to start my new Meiou game. Wish me luck against the gajin.
>>184047809
:^)
>>184051713
>Korea
>gaijin
それは日本語だよ、韓国語じゃないボケ。
>>184051885
>not taking over japan and swapping cultures
Do you even know how to play as Korea?
>>184051603
I remember when I first saw this I tried to retell it to someone but I fucked up one of the lines and it was really awkward :/
>tfw you stage terror attacks against your own people and blame Botswana & Namibia which you then annex, but that pisses off China and the rest of Africa, who then declare war on you but the U.S./South Korea/Italy back you up causing a Sino-American borderline world war to break out.
I just hope I don't getnuked.
whats the steppe wolf of eu4?
>>184053074
what is the justification for your life?
>>184053074
Vanilla
>>184051139
>Catholic England
Does Paradox itself ever do sales? I know they bump up prices during Steam Summer Sale and stuff to prevent people from buying their shit at a remotely reasonable price, but does the company itself ever lower prices on its own accord?
God I wish I could have that mod that made colonial nations stick to their de-jure provinces
>>184053261
It's Catholic or these.
>>184053743
>not being Hussite
garb,an
>>184053743
Calixtine will have to do.
>>184053743
>Not remainging catholic
end your life senpai
Should I just start over? My plans for forming Germany as not Prussia are a bit screwed now, but this entire campaign has been too much of a clusterfuck to just abandon like this
>>184053387
> I know they bump up prices during Steam Summer Sale and stuff to prevent people from buying their shit at a remotely reasonable price,
That's....not true?
There's been ~10 summer sales, that's never happened. There are occassionally other steam sales as well, and that's what paradox uses (like everyone).
>>184054197
t. Johan
>>184054057
Stay independent and colonize 90% of Africa you fucking faggot.
>>184053743
>>184051139
how the fuck do you have a completely Catholic Europe in the 1520s? the Reformation usually fires in the 1490s for me
>>184054262
Ya, it's not like that's an easily verifiable fact or anything. It's totally a matter of opinion.
Do I:
Red: Stick with what I have(Current puppets)
Green: Annex Sardinia and puppet what's left of the Netherlands
Yellow: Go full meme, violate Swiss Neutrality, puppet them, and steal Venice from Austria
>>184051603
I don't get it
>>184054426
t.
>>184054197
They just did it with this past summer sale, I was v. disappointed. It must've been the first time?
>>184054445
Is it possible to form the SGF by sphering all of southern Germany?
>>184054313
Meiou has a chance at no reformation if the church reforms itself through event regularly. Usually involves alot of Antipopes/ countries going heretics before the reformation.
>>184054663
No, only German states can create the SGF, NGF, or German Empire
based
>>184054567
>>184054771
One day I'll figure out a way to create Germany as Luxemburg, then annex France and have all the French as accepted pops
>>184054567
where's the diversity?
>>184054567
Me on the left
>>184054772
And now I hold the sole entrance to my nation which is literally impossible to be passed by an army smaller than 4 times my size (i.e 40)
>>184055110
ebin
>>184055282
>arty
Bravo, gigau.
Bravo, Johan.
>>184054057
It got worse
>>184045725
I learned eu4 by playing for like an hour while controlling the same nation as a my brother.
He declared war on Lithuania and told me to win the war.
I think you learn by doing, so keep doing and watch less tutorials.
Your states are probably profitable, show me your states.
As for problems focus on one at at time.
Then ask one question about one problem here and have people help you with that problem.
>>184051810
>trade > production > tax
Strong economy
>>184054832
HPM removes french as accepted when you form Germany/NGF
>>184055282
and his army just retreated behind my line into my provinces
truly what this guy said >>184055383
>>184055475
>play vanilla
>get memed on
Should the Northumbrians be punished for helping the pr*ssians? I
>>184055692
>tfw cant stop getting memed on
>>184056071
Epic retreat mechanics win again
>>184056071
take the loss
hmmmm so why exactly can white people still claim the congo if kongo is westernized
>>184056128
>>184056231
I salvaged what I could in the peace offer (i.e the buffed province that's about to become a level 2 fort). What's more annoying to me is that I lost 13k manpower when I should've lost only 3k, and 10k is a lot for Persia
>>184056364
but the memes just keep coming
>>184056364
>10k is alot for persia
Thats more then what alot of countries have to play around with at that time. Alot of Italian countries can only hire troops, not reinforce them. Which is why Italy is ripe for the plunder when you start.
Jesus fucking Christ
>>184055816
Did Trieste forming become a meme only during this past patch, or am I just really that unfortunate this game?
>>184056754
maybe I don't want to have colonies.....
>>184057007
I recall reading from a M&T dev that colonization is still broken / not modded completely, so I'll hold off from it.
>>184056754
Is this what people mean when they say colonization is broken in M&T or is there something else?
>>184056563
Jesus Christ lad. Texan mayonnaise just doesn't want you to play Persia successfully
>>184056563
So they sent me this offer after losing 15k to attrition
Cute, but no.
>>184006292
what was your favorite paradox jewry?
mine was when they kept pushing the "stellaris has pops" meme for marketing value. of course, these pops were just icons of humans or aliens that produced energy when placed on a yellow house or food when placed on a green field.
>>184057383
here we go again
>>184057173
https://www.reddit.com/r/MEIOUandTaxes/comments/64qkvl/colonization/
Apparently the mod was released without a rework of the colonization mechanic, so we can only hope for an improved version in the future.
>>184056754
>New Crunia
what was meant??
>>184057605
I eventually had to give in to their demands but the 1:10 ratio is far more important - they got 300 ducats for their entire army being wiped
>>184057173
I think it's fixed now, but their calculations of ideal pop numbers and fertility etc are based on the initial pop of provinces, so colonies in North America basically couldn't grow.
>>184052834
What year?
>>184054445
Yellow. Also, related captcha.
>>184057821
Thanks.
So if I understand it correctly, they aren't `broken' per se, are they?It's just a case of it not being as good as the devs want, but is it still functional?I wouldn't want to end my meme chinese colonization campaign I just started
>>184058180
I see, thanks
>>184055621
Damn
>>184058068
thank you for taking the loss
it makes the game more satisfying
>>184058517
A couple more losses like that and he's won.
>>184058185
I had to settle for None of the above
Sardinia became a Great Power so i couldn't puppet them, but I stopped them from forming Italy and ended up creating Tuscany as a puppet
I also couldn't Puppet the Netherlands because they have colonies, and I don't have the right party in government to violate the Swiss
>>184055860
fucking kill the ottomemes lad
>>184057821
Since colonisation's barely started in my England game I'm going to turn colonial nations off and see what that's like.
>>184058658
Get Savoy at least.
>>184058185
2033.
Unfortunately, I think I found a gimmick in this game. When your army is so powerful the AI will lose with its smaller armies, they tend to just remain passive despite me being at war with the entire world and not having a single boat.
America/China hate me, but are in a deadlock against each other than I have no desire to end anytime soon despite China wanting out.
This is "south" Africa at the moment.every non-european/afrikaans language is illegal, everyone is under martial law, and i'm the freedom front south african political party
>>184058202
It's basically the vanilla colonization, nothing about it was reworked to fit in with M&T. Just be careful and don't conquer high pop places like Mexico, or you'll get what I got
>>184058910
Sorry I meant Savoy became a GP, not Sardinia
I will get them, just gotta wait for my Infamy to drop low enough, it's at 20 right now and puppet adds 10
>>184058993
What game?
>>184058993
Still didn't conquer Lesotho lol
>>184058993
Swaziland and Lesotho.... broo
>>184059229
Can you get Illyria in any way?
>>184059921
Illyria?
>>184059996
Fulfill Napoléon.
>>184058068
>they're back to having maxed out manpower just 5 years later
>after 40k in losses
johaaaaaaaaaaaan
>>184060139
I love how Switzerland is always left alone in real life because its a bitch to fight against that terrain but in the games you just walk in and take it over.
>>184060139
I plan to go commie lategame and attempt to blob the entire continent.
I'm just filling time until i can get a communist regime right now.
>>184060309
man they really love dicking you as Persia
>>184060309
>19k
>maxxed out
I guess they had some extra from the start where they didnt do calculations. Korea has that, where you start with like 90k but your manpower is 55k, and France starts with like 200k dont they? On the bright side next war they wont win.
>>184060397
what are you talking about, Napoleon destroyed the Confederacy and installed a Federation there
nice
(not shown is the ottomans having a 26k stack in Lithuania, while the rest of their country is being overrun by the Mamluks and pretender rebels)
>>184060528
yeah it really does seem like that
>>184060720
hmm
>>184060720
>>184060896
why are you so weak?
>>184061059
see: >>184032584
Happens every succession until you reform your government
>>184061220
weather it
you will succeed if you keep trying
nah fuck this, I'm going to delete gigau's autistic meme succession for Persia and will restart this for the 5th time tomorrow
This time I've memorized every optimal step to 1466
>>184061059
in case you're wondering why his army is so small, you are expected to beg your estates (nobles) to lend you soldiers.
>>184061702
>>184061668
quick question can you fully centralize in that mod and strip all power from the nobles and burghers?
Finally
>>184061937
Yeah, but only if you can drive autonomy to zero in every province.
>>184061937
For some countries like most in Europe, yes
For Persia, no, because all the territories on the periphery are too far from the capital and are therefor 100% autonomy (i.e fully controlled by the estates). That makes them powerful which then makes them spam you with demands for power
Kong stronk
>>184062132
Surely it's still possible to centralise as Persia, just time-consuming, costly and difficult.
>>184062039
>1580
>>184062667
>>184062667
yeah, but even if you did, for what purpose? you would get high centralization (which increases your unrest) and would have to micro the buildings, forts and roads of every single province.
better to have some nobles while still being relatively centralized.
>>184062039
hello friend. i noticed a bug in your game: portugal does not exist. i am not sure if it is simply a graphical glitch of this mapmode (in which case you should contact the developers) or an actual game-breaking in-game glitch, but i thought that i should point this out to you.
>>184062764
That shit was 2k ducats
>>184062039
>germany avoiding civilization like the plague
speaking of the plague, does it decrease population? its' effects do not show such a thing and when it passed through my land (though mildly), my population didn't decrease much.
>>184063661
you had a mild plague then
when your plague gets black, you lose between 30% to 50% of your population
What's the best mod for fantasy focused crusader kings? Does anybody have much experience with the warhammer one? How is it?
>>184064927
the best one is warhammer, go for it
if you know the lore it will be 1000x better
What the fuck. I'm stuck in the tutorial for Superpower 2 because I can't get my units to move like it's telling me to. Am I retarded?
>tfw no EU4 mod or M&T submod whereBritain doesn't get invaded by germanics multiple times and stays as a romance speaking country
>>184067394
>tfw no M&T submod where the roman empire successfully romanized all their conquered provinces and europe goes through china style fragmentation and reunification
>>184067627
>1919
>no germany
Absolutely perfect.
>>184067150
Nevermind.
page 10 lol
420 lol
fpm soon lads
>>184067394
i'm pretty sure by eu4's timeline english monarchs weren't native french speakers anymore
is this based
Is there any good reason to enable serfdom?
>>184075714
Yes, it increases your hidden w&b score
>>184075701
>greater Illinois
delet
>>184076151
>A-am I fitting in with you guys
No. You spics are repulsive.
>>184076564
It's pretty much the only name i could use
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illinois_Country
>>184076627
k-kys anglo!!
>>184076681
>spicmodder is also a known shitposter
Not surprised. Why are we allowing this?
Reminder.
vicky musicmod when
>we
>wuz
>kangz
>>184077980
Cala boca arrrombado
>allowing
>surprised
>>184078121
calado macaquito
>>184078121
1 sec too late sweetie ;)
>>184060896
>>184061668
NO REST FOR THE FAITHFUL
ONLY FOR THE BELOVED DEAD
Walk with Ahura Mazda, friend. You will see it all through. Here, have this F-14 Tomcat mech to inspire you. If you work hard, you can achieve this.
>>184075701
No, now fuck off with your Cathlocuck wet dream you fucking favela dweller. May your power be forever knocked out.
>>184064927
Elder Kings mate
It has a lot of interesting mechanics, two new government types, a hilariously huge decision list, and you can cast spells and shit
The only bad thing is its low numbers, high investment build
As in most big kingdoms have like 7k troops at most, but have the potential to be waaaaay bigger with a lot of investment.
Prove me wrong
protip: you can't
>>184016969
>My favorite unciv getting buffed
Awesome, was this a recent decision?
post your best king charles memes!
>>184082073
Also reminder that You can see German cities and shit in the 1940s
>>184082627
>forgot to crop
based
>>184082627
>germania shit
>pedo anime
i swear all white kids are chemically castrated
>>184082827
Hello robbie
Did Austria have any ambition to further expand into Italy? Also, rate borders.
>>184085350
no. they did want to keep their northeastern italian possesions, but not expand them
100% undeniable proof of where Alex "HPM" Grandi lives
>muh space marineers
>>184082627
Here, you lost your image :3
>Esta copia de Windows no es original
>dumb fuck
>pirate windows
>activation message
>spic
>anime
>probably a teenager
Hi hitlermod
>>184086641
Awww you make me blush anoni just deleted the image because it's harder to read and it tickles my autism
>>184086641
Why are spics such edgy retards?
FUCK THIS FORT SYSTEM FUCK FUCK FUUUUUUCK
Why HPM hates minorities so much, lads?
>eu4 players
>>184086779
because their countries and education are shit
>eu4babs
>>184086546
>that 1 province thick border between you and that blue Germany
God I didn't think people still did that. Christ it looks awful even if it works.
Where do I find a tool that maps my ck2 game?
>>184087792
Crusader_Kings_2.exe
S H E K E L S
>>184088024
funny
>>184088134
Just make it save the map, what's the problem?
Apart from the Czech benis, Germany is almost liberated from the mohammedan yoke
>>184088842
Good. Keep pushing the cockroaches out of Europe and hell, Africa too.
>tfw making a spread sheet with city population from 1700 to to 2075 for literally no reason
>already at 222 cities and not even halfway through Europe
What happens if you support the independence of a CN of your vassal?
Oh how a man can dream
>>184028295
Show Europe and world map. How big have you blobbed?
Heard rumours that CK 2 is going to get a price drop soon, this true? I'd like to buy everything, but for under 200 burgers.
>>184090976
just pirate it like everyone you wanker
welp
Are these "good" ethnic borders? Blue is Pasta, Red is German, Pink is Slavic (Polish and Czech obviously), Green is Hungarian and the weird yellow is Gypsy or whatever Romanians are
I still don't know what to do with the rest of the Balkans, maybe a mix ofgreek,italianandromanian
>hundreds of thousands of dutchmen in the colonies
>not one ever landed in Europe despite men at home coming to their aid for centuries
I remember it not being like this. CNs used to actually help in wars. When did they fuck it up?
>>184091292
9 Morale lads
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ez6wfJWVCeI
>>184092015
:^)
>>184091901
t. american grobgermaniums kid maymay
>>184092198
>annexes all of africa and most of the americas in 1780
>american grobgermaniums kid maymay
what did you meme by this
Can you at least answer my question
>>184092263
Stop giving that faggot attention. The sooner he fucks off the better
>>184092198
I've never made it this far so I don't know what units are the best. Fucking Gold Wills It Dutch cunts.
Nice going m8. Have you been taking every opportunity to cuck Sweden like I asked you to?
>>184092263
Fucking lol
>>184092451
Why would I want Him to fuck off
He's making on-topic posts, You're just shitposting
>>184092263
>most of the americas
>most
also what lies outside Europa is fair game to the white man as it is his divine duty to bring the lesser beings to heelor something like that
>>184092198
>>184092475
>e
>u
>4
>babs
>>184092529
>also what lies outside Europa is fair game to the white man as it is his divine duty to bring the lesser beings to heelor something like that
I unironically agree with this though, but it needs to be fairly partitioned between the European powers
>>184092581
>but it needs to be fairly partitioned between the European powers
'no'
>>184092641
but muh balance of powah
muh pan whiteums and basediums unionums of evropa with lebensraum for everyone
>>184091901
Balkans here
The colours are pretty obvious, purple would be some kind of Greek-T*rk and maybe a bit of Italian mix, they would probably speak some Greek dialect or maybe a romance language
>>184092984
WOah
meant to post this
>>184093102
Northern transylvania to hungarians in it's entirety.
This is non negotiable
>>184093260
kys my man
>>184093260
>non negotiable
then enjoy getting blown the fuck out by whoever draws these borders (Austro-German-Italian-Polish-Romanian-Greek Empire, Roman Empire 2.0, NatSoc EU, or whatever)
So I'm about to reform my government as a Native American (and provide an answer to the question of "what does the Fox say"), and I've stockpiled plenty of Mana. But I'm also suffering from the Rapid Collapse of Society modifier, giving +33% all power costs (which will go away one month after hitting the magic button here).
I've fully embraced two idea groups (Quantity and Economic) since I didn't tech up at all after getting to 7-6-5, and I have about 300 development (I developed some provinces with spare mana while waiting for the Euros to show up).
What should I do when I hit the magic button? Pump all the mana into fresh tech? Idea groups? Some kind of combination? Should I risk waiting for Thirteen Colonies to embrace Manufactories so I can get that institution for free as well? And what sorts of buildings should I build with my massive stockpile of money if I intend to play tall-ish? Keep in mind all of Ohio, Illinois, Michigan, Wisconsin and Indiana have all their provinces developed to at least 10, the vast majority of my provinces produce Fur, and two of my provinces (Cahokia and Kaskasia) are farmland.
Southern France (almost) liberated
>>184092475
>Have you been taking every opportunity to cuck Sweden like I asked you to?
Was a rival of Denmark for a long time so couldn't do much about it. Russia went to town with them though
>>184093102
Purple is Anatolians, Green is Catholic Arabs or something, Orange-ish is Armenians and weird blue isAssyriansor at least people claiming to be Assyrians
>>184093961
>reform to colonial government
wut
Alright /gsg/ it's been awhile since I played Victoria, so I re-installed and loaded up HPM. I like to play as the United States usually. Anyway, opinions on the costs of this event? I aim to set it up for after the civil war is taken care of. An undertaking such as this in the 19th century would be less expensive than it would be now, but it would still be insanely costly I would imagine. Also, from what I remember high militancy pops will seek to emigrate, so how much militancy should they get? Obviously it would be really hard to round up literally EVERY nigger, but I think a good chunk of them could be accounted for with a determined policy. Those that remain after deportations and flight will be negligible, at the end of it all.
Ideas?
>>184092984
>balkans here
>Esta copia de Windows no es original
Liar. Why are spics so dumb?
Can anyone explain to me how assimilation works please? The impression I have, is that European pops almost never assimilate, and so can be ignored by most European countries. Am I wrong?
fucking krauts can't keep a country together
>>184096962
jesus christ
>>184096962
Is it possible to create aesthetic borders in this game when all provinces are shapeless blobs? I'm having a hard enough time with CK2's provinces.
>>184096581
nope
>>184097537
I think Germany will turn out decent after I add Sundgau, Hamburg and eastern Czechia. A bit of a wonk with Poland, but not that much.
And Benelux looks pretty aesthetic to me. Guess you can
>>184096581
Yes
>>184091901
No.You gave hungarians the romanian part of Transilvania and the romanians the hungarian part
>>184097843
>>184097946
Thanks, that clears it up for me :^)
Direct rule from Utrecht
>>184095354
It should cost several hundred thousand £
Also have more militancy, maybe even to a part of liberals.
>>184090501
>How big have you blobbed?
heh
drove out the saracen from Germany
>>184101028
Keep pushing
>>184099034
>releasing India
why
t. hoi3 german AI
>>184099034
Where the hell are all your pops?
>>184098063
Yes but the real border looked/looks like shit
>>184101028
Your game was better when it was a test of how far the Ottoman can go while Europe bickers and jews each other.
Still though, thanks for posting man. I've had fun watching. You play fast as fuck though.
Ethiopia is done, and now the regions of Oromia, Amhara and Tigray are much better represented, as is religion. Roughly a third of the Oromo are sunni now.
I need to fix the tags. Shewa will be used as the "Oromia" tag and will stop the Oromo from assimilating in the region. I need to do accepted pops for all tags too.
>>184102143
Is this >>184085773 your house??
>>184102143
reeeing like fuck
>>184101897
Glad you liked it.
>Your game was better when it was a test of how far the Ottoman can go while Europe bickers and jews each other.
Yeah, that does sound more interesting.
>You play fast as fuck though.
It's a mix of a shit computer so it doesn't really run that fast and hitting space every few seconds
>>183991909
Province names are, by default, in English. Though localized names wouldn't be bad considering I will make an option to change provinces to localized names in the future.
>>183991220
There's not really an ETA, but as soon as I'm done with pops and testing a few things I release again.
>>184102462
What are your thoughts on event chains? As in a series of related events which take place over the span of years (at least 5) where the option you choose changes what the next event would be if it fires.
Similarly, do you have any plans to rework some of the Balkan states stuff, like the Congress of Berlin?
>>184102462
HPM why the fugg does the Chinese Warlord Era doesn't fire sometimes?
>>184103073
It has requirements too, it can end up not firing if Qing still has a lot of prestige.
>>184103056
I like them, but they are usually reserved for out-of-the-ordinary stuff.
>Similarly, do you have any plans to rework some of the Balkan states stuff, like the Congress of Berlin?
Possibly adapt a few things, nothing major.
>>184098867
yes, good idea. I'm thinking a militancy/conciousness hit to capitalists and beurocrats as well. What would be more effective for increasing the "cost", to require actual clipper/steamer convoys, or just up the financial cost (to simulate all that) ? I'm not familiar with the vicky economy anymore, it's been years.
>>184103473
addendum : i've got it at 500k money hit right now. From memory though once you start rolling in the game that's really nothing. Maybe 5 million?
>>184103436
HPM, I have a question.
How do you get your ideas?
>>184098867
What? The liberals wanted to ship them back though, it was a big plan of Lincoln and the Republicans before he got shot.
>>184102143
rough ETA on release?
>>184103745
supa de macao
the only game i play anymore is ck2 because it's so comfy
vic2 pretty much the same shit happens every time and it isn't comfy have big blobs and global superpowers being able to dominate everything
>>184097257
I guess they haven't cored a lot.
Seems like they have between 140 and 604 overextension.
>>184103436
HPM are you going to include the Chincha Islands War?
It can be represented as "Add to sphere of influence" and "Pay reparations". I think it would balance South America a little bit. It's not historical accurate that Spain keeps its GP status for that long. That war shitted Spain's reputation (so prestige in Vicky II) all around the world (they lost) an also ruined Peru and Chile's economy since they had to pay lots of money.
I know that maybe there is no need for a flavour event but I still haven't seen a single event for civilized nations to get sphered by a GP.
so who is everyone playing as right now? want to see some more screenshots but HATE those autistic reddit tier 'AARs'
prefer just seeing laddos post about their games without some convoluted story
>>184105105
I wish every single one who post AAR to have their hands cutted by Leopold himself. AAR are fucking cringy and completely stupid. At least include some stupid memes and jokes, don't try to be serious and add you shitty writing.
>>184101726
why did you not conquer jerusalem and mecca for the prestige modifiers?
wew
>>184105105
These losers have fanfic tier writing. Including AARanon. Also using a trip to write your AARs is pathetic attention-whoring.
>>184105295
Let them win and then get absolutely BTFO by based Deutschland
>>184105295
Can you check their overextension in the ledger or something?
>>184105526
621%
>>184105705
Nice flag
>>184105705
Not something you can recover from
started an eu4 run yesterday, used all 800 points on a custom nation, a new homeland for the jews in canada. with the idea of jewing all of europe out of their colonial and asian trade money
The absolute STATE
>>184106129
Finally, after 550 shitposts, a white and based post has appeared
>>184106129
siberian frontier or bust
>drive three hundred and fifty thousand chinese extinct at home
>they send another seventy thousand across siberia
>>184106129
>not madagascar
>>184105105
>>184105164
>>184105441
I prefer ''cringy'' AARs to people like you bitching about them and the multitude of shitposting in the generals.
the jews take every center of trade, natural harbor and river estuary in the americas, leaving the europeans to do the actual work of colonising and creating the wealth of the new world for the jews to then steal
>>184106280
im playing as a merchant republic so im limiting myself to just quebec area and trade centres, but still over 20 provinces
>>184106468
t. AAR faggot who thinks his writing is good because he replies to himself
>>184106468
maybe you should fuck off to paradoxplaza or reddit then? they have plenty of AARs there
>>184106534
>>184106556
I'll start an AAR fairly soon only to annoy dumb faggots like you and Robbie. What are you going to do to stop me? Spam shit telling me to fuck off? Go ahead I'm completely immune lmfao.
>>184106508
please rename your provinces to dumb shit like Jew York, Shekelburg and Goygrad
>>184106636
ooh, you're hard
>>184106636
Based
i managed to get the slave entrepot event for the natives (i guess because im high american tech group?) but got both benefits of the event somehow.
so the jews are now the leading traders of slaves in the world
>>184106534
>>184106556
Why so mad about people posting pictures and a little story to go along with it?
>>184106636
Play alone and then use the time you spend writing your shit on something useful.
>>184106709
>>184106771
Seriously though, how do you plan to stop people from posting what they want to post? If you don't like it there is an 'ignore' function and its even easier with AARnon who uses a trip because you can just filter his trip and go on without even seeing him.
>>184106508
>im playing as a merchant republic so im limiting myself to just quebec area and trade centres, but still over 20 provinces
Ah okay fine
siberian frontier is a bit cheap in the new world anyway.I will do a game there with it anyway though
>>184106821
They're just shitposting lad, don't worry.
>>184106763
it would be fine if the writing was EVER any good or the stories were in any way shape or form compelling or interesting
>>184106821
wow you're REALLY triggered because people don't like your posts aren't you lmao
>>184106468
Same.
They can be dorky, but still endearing.
And still fun to just look at the images and look at the game.
The jewish capital, which ill rename Shekelburg or something once i start playing again today, has the largest slave market in the world
>>184105164
>At least include some stupid memes and jokes
This site is for people older than 18
If you are looking for memes and retarded jokes, go to /b/
>>184106468
We all do but some shitposters like to see as their shitposting safe space
>>184105105
tlemcen in a competitive mp game
norse custom nation in two different coop mp games
manchu in a coop mp game
kono in a coop mp game
>>184106868
I know it's steamcordplaza propped up by Robbie (who is now a proud member of the last official discord)
>>184106885
No I'm just trying to look into the mind of a shitposter, see what makes you tick. I largely don't care what people think of my posts, I literally post cheat games with baby boom, autists get triggered and I keep posting and posting without anyone to stop me.
The jewish economy runs on two things: slaves, and stealing europeans' wealth
>>184105105
I'm playing MS Paint with the Google Earth screenshots mod
>>184107080
>the mind of a shitposter,
>I largely don't care what people think of my posts, I literally post cheat games with baby boom, autists get triggered and I keep posting and posting without anyone to stop me.
you're literally the shitposter LOL
>>184106945
Better off, they can go to Reddit where their AARs are filled with dumb jokes and memes.
>>184106468
Put your trip on "AARanon", you stupid hack. Keep writing about Viceroy Fizzlebottom and his adventures in India.
>>184106945
>If you are looking for memes and retarded jokes, go to /b/
As opposed to your Nobel Prize tier writing?
Go fuck yourself, there is no need to include shit writing. At least by adding stupid memes makes you laugh or not cringe at sentences ike "In this day General Thomson shouted and fought until the end, his actions were brave...".
Most of the time it tries so hard to be epic, but it fails.
>>184107330
What I'm posting is on topic though, I'm posting grand strategy games. Meanwhile you're posting tired and stale /pol/ memes and that's why you get banned every so often by the based jannies.
If Robbie doesn't like /gsg/ I'm not even sure why he comes here. He's not triggering anyone, most people just ignore him these days.
>Freedom achieved
what objectives can I set myself for a tall eu4 game? don't want to own all of africa and be "tall" by only holding a few european provinces either.
>>184103436
HPM, could you add a decision for establishment of the Bulgarian Exarchate? It was authorized by the Ottomans as a measure to help pacify Bulgarian Christians (militancy reduction) as well as divide Orthodox Christians as the Exarchate was viewed as schismatic and catering to nationalism (consciousness increase for clergymen). I hastily made a decision for it but you might have other ideas for how to implement it. I can post a pastebin with the code and flavor text if you'd like.
>>184107330
>on topic posts playing the game this general is about
>shitposting
Epic
>>184107447
>At least by adding stupid memes makes you laugh
If you are a child or have the mind of one, I'm sure it will make you laught
If you are looking for that, just go to /b/ and look for the ylyl threads
>>184107490
What's up with that wall between you and germany?
>>184107443
>>184107447
Try and stop me then laddo. Lmao impotent little cuck.
>>184107453
Why are you so obsessed with some black guy who isn't even posting now? Are you going to write an AAR about him?
>>184107575
>hurr durr please read my retarded AAR, give me more (You)s I beg you
>read my extremely bad prose that no one even reads and just care about what you are going to do next
>>184107586
Suck a dick fucker
>>184107586
>laddo
Reeeing like fuck. Can't wait to hear about General Poppington and his welfare reforms at Westminster.
>>184107447
call the cops nerd
So, playing tall-ish Fox went okay, until the 1720s when Spain and Portugal allied eachother and tore me apart.
I hate Iberians so god damn much.
>>184107738
>>184107743
So are you gonna do anything to try and stop me? Oh that's right, you can't do shit because all of what I do is on-topic. All you can do is seethe and squirm in impotence.
>>184107453
>>184107517
>so angry he replies twice
>>184107738
>>read my extremely bad prose
No one is asking you to read shit, you can just ignore the posts you don't like
I'd rather have someone trying to write something about their games than just having an image full of memes for children like this place is /b/
>>184107897
i sure am posting twice
cringe
rate my latest game laddos
>>184107841
Nobody will read your retarded AAR except yourself. The rest that actually see the pics you are posting are just going to reply with memes that you will try to accomplish in game by writing shit from wikipedia.
>>184107915
>I want serious discussions
Back to KR you fucking autist.
>>184107841
Yeah you sure showed me anon. You're a tough dude and definitely the real winner here.
Pic related, it's you.
>>184108037
>>184108058
So you gonna do something or just keep SEETHING internally?
>>184108024
you can literally just turn (You)s on and off, you aren't fooling anyone
>tfw you started a shitfest by shitting on AAR and waste your time by making other people angry, which has no value whatsoever
Kek, at least I practiced my touch typing.
>>184108037
>I don't want serious discussions
Back to /b/ you fucking autist.
>>184107586
It's a mint ice cream with a layer of syrup and a cup of melon.
Was planning to surround Benelux with a one province border made out of Oldenburg and don't get involved much in Europe, at the time, being buttfucked by the turks. But then the turks reached Padeborn, the whole world ganged up on them and I switched to liberating Europe from the mohammedan. The border thing just remained and is now supposed to protect white Europe in case the Germans go rogue.
wrong reply
>>184107579
see >>184108290
Anyone want some chocolate?
>>184108204
No I can't because I'm not using some 4chan MLG PRO EPIC ASPERGERS EDITION because I don't suffer from the autism that you have. 'Stop liking what I don't like!' Textbook autism.
>>184108232
Alright faggit, I know you are upset but remember, if you want serious discussion then go to a forum where you can't shitpost. I'm serious, there is nothing of value here other than there is no moderation.
Can you please shut the fuck up??
>>184108487
literally don't care
>>184108538
>I was only pretending to be retarded
xD
Reminder to R&I
>Finish my first game with all expansions
>Toggle "real_fathers"
>Half the tree is cuckery, including one black christian guy (yet the kid is white for some retarded reason)
>Literally started with my firstborn
>My dynasty died with me
Uninstalled, deleted and removed from steam.
>>184095354
>>184108674
>playing along with a joke is the same as falling for the joke
joke's on you bucko
post gsg memes
>>184108887
Great post friend
>>184109145
what does /gsg/ think of my empire?
I usually don't like blobbing so this is as far as i would want to go
I would've taken transylvania but brandenburg and wallachia took it before I could and hungary were either guaranteed by PLC or allied with the whole game and I was just too lazy to siege the whole damn PLC down for enough warscore
>>184110394
Lad You're suppsed to take all of Hungary
>>184110505
im allied with brandenburg, they're allied with walachia
>>184110394
hungary + ruthenia + crimea or you fucked up
also the rest of the caucasus, you need to surround the black sea
>>184110549
who
the fuck
cares
You're the ottomans, go wreck their shit, blob all over north africa and take Cordoba too, might as well go for Dehli, and Bangladesh while You're at it. Also take Wien and Rome
>>184110585
i dont want to be affiliated with caucusniggers, but sure ill try
>>184109145
My only game of DH was with the Grand Campaign mod, playing as Slovenia and trying to be the first to put a man on the Moon. I never finished it, though; after reaching the 30s, I went back to playing Vicky because it's more fun to do it there.
>>184108445
Yes please mail me some chocolate thanks
>>184110629
i might take over the iran area, and naples actually but the mountain attrition is fucking gay, its great that i have acces to so much manpower
>>184103436
HPM, why can the Congo Conference still be called if Kongo is westernized?
>>184085773
bains?
Why is blobbing so good in eu4? Do the devs care at all? Perhaps development could be tweaked somehow but it's just too cheap to conquer some tall nation
>>184110851
Rate my AI Hungary
>>184111890
>building tall
this is cuck shit real men blob wide
>>184112087
Needs all of Bohemia, then its 9/10
>>184103436
Hello HPM, could you take a look at Turkestan? The formation decision gives cores on the entire Kandahar state in Afghanistan, which I don't think is intentional. For one, it looks extremely unaesthetic and there aren't any Turkic people in any of the provinces except the border ones. The cores given on Persia and Kashgaria are only bits of provinces on the border, but the cores given on Afghanistan are much more extensive and illogical.
Rate my AI Hungary
>>184112282
is itfunto have Planned Economy in a country with 40+ states?
>>184112282
>no cyprus
>no sicily
>>184112405
It would be extremely painful
>>184112279
Is that their capital state?If yes, it might be so you can take it without conquering everything else first
>>184112628
Why would anyone conquer the entirety of Afghanistan as Turkestan?
>>184112510
for you
>>184112819
Well, their southern border is much more aesthetic than the Turkic one, especially if coupled with Baluchistan, and if you are going for Turaniums it's useful to conquer everything in between for better borders.
ah yes
>>184112282
>blobbing beyond the pretty Syria-Iraq border
You better at least have Khuzestan
>>184113326
mmh the fact that my spherelings and puppets still love me ruins my immersion
For EU4 would it be a fun game to play as Norway and spit out Iceland and then play as them as a replublic while also colonising the world and trying to take all the Islands?
>>184113353
These borders are literal aesthetic perfection though.Except for the lack of Cyprus.
>>184112405
It's doable, but I imagine it'd become a clusterfuck in a country other than russia or the ottoman empire. (Russia and the Ottomans can get away with it because of their low literacy, meaning that you'll only have to build 1 factory in the majority of states.)
>>184114174
>implying the same doesn't apply to Egypt
>>184114124
>doesn't have al-andalus
0/10
>>184114270
oh, I see, you were specifically replying to him. yeah, egypt is like that but moreso, cuz like, 50% of egypt's pops are in a single province, so that's the only one you have to worry about.
>>184114124
Close, but no
Any (rational) reason to use this place as the capital of north america?
>>184115763
None, RP about it
>>184115763
No, make a decision to move it Louisville
good lad
>>184116304
>Ellaca
>not Nieuw Zeeland
Lad...
>>184115763
Does the Arcadian Union include the chinks to the west?
>Vigorous rubbing motion of the multi-fingered organ located at the end of the forearm
I think I'm gonna stop here. Probably most fun run I've had in a couple thousand hours of this garbage of a game. Remember that with jews you WIN.
>>184116608
Not the west coast. Just got a casus belli against Rohnnst.
>>184116608
No, just the Hwites
How do you survive as Texas? I can reclaim all of Texas with the help of the US but as soon as they finish off the M-A war I'm fucked
>>184117103
>>184117171
Who did you form it as? You can get extra cores if you form it as either Vinland or Plantagenia in the north up to Alaska or on Lusitania respectively. I don't think the Septimans get any.
>>184117103
32 Merchants fuck me lad. I hope you were built to force limit in troops and atleast half your navy was heavies
>>184117329
Epic blob, bravo.
>>184117329
>>184117103
>>184115763
Any rational reason to build a completely new capital for the US instead of choosing one of the already established cities?
>>184117339
As septimans. So apparently no Alaska or Lusitania for me.
>>184117539
What's up with Iceland are they Danish with rebels or something?
>>184117753
revolution, comrade
>>184117356
589/757 land
46 heavies, 1323 lights, 1 galley, 171 transports
>>184117539
>>184117876
buetifel
>>184117539
>Witmanland
>Apenland
Well memed
>>184118053
with S P I C E
>>184111890
Over Extension, Coring, Rebels and Aggressive Expansion are all there to hurt blobbers. The only thing I would change is quadruple AE in HRE countries for anyone.
>>184118301
Just pump up the difficulty f a m
>>184117171
Wasn't there a Manifest Destiny decision?
>>184118240
Never played eu4, what's up with those effects?
>>184117103
Do you have Trade Ideas or Economic?
I just convert my Iconoclast Roman Empire into Catholic. Now I can appoint an antipope. Seems like a good investment.
>>184118684
1. exploration
2. expansion
3. offensive
4. religious
5. plutocratic
6. quality
7. defensive
8. trade
I want to play M&T again but I get shit FPS while playing it at acceptable speeds and it's annoying. Is there a way to improve fps in eu4? Like a flat map mod or something
I almost forgot about you Nippon. Would you like to take a moment to talk about our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ?
>>184119063
fast universalis
>>184119119
wrong screen lmao
too bad there isn't enough mana for even more shekels
>>184119247
Stop posting EUIV
>>184119348
this blob is hella freakin epic
Anglo just lost his OP Navy and the Pacific.
>>184119409
Thanks for the mem
>>184119290
Tfw Northumberland is actually Mercia.
>>184006292
I never bothered to learn tactics in ck2, so i'm curious how you kept casualties so low. Were you defending and had god tier generals or is there more to it?
>>184119541
what's the fun of blobbing with absolutely no sense or restrictions at all? why not just conquer the entire globe?
>>184119409
>>184119384
get fucked
>>184119601
I had quite a lot of restrictions, actually. Now that all Islam is gone from the world, the next down on the priority list is heresy.
>>184119601
>what's the fun of blobbing with ab
to trigger your autism
>>184119742
Spain couldn't conquer Morocco alone during the timeframe of EU:IV. How do you justify blobbing over the entire Muslim world?
>>184119725
epic xD
>>184119901
surely there are far easier ways of doing that than wasting several hours of your day in EU:IV blobbing?
>>184119580
No. It's just a fluke. I used my 25k to attack their 8k. The AI rushed in to reinforce. But when they arrive, their 8k army was already routed. They just kept putting more small stacks in the meat grinder and prolong the battle.
>>184119184
I'll check it out once i download eu, thanks
>>184119975
>Spain couldn't conquer Morocco alone during the timeframe of EU:IV. How do you justify blobbing over the entire Muslim world?
Spain got distracted by gold in the west and then buttfucked by the Brits. I haven't done either. Do you realise that this is a game and not an encyclopedia that someone has made mistakes in?
eu4 was a mistake
REMOVE EU4 FROM THIS GENERAL
h8 EU4
eu4 is better than having a ded thread
>>184120409
>it's just a game bro xD
>just turn your brain off
fine enjoy your arcade blob, idiot.
>>184120489
>>184120424
oWo what this
>>184120660
FUCKING LOL
>>184120660
enjoy reading wikipedia and then comparing it to screenshots my good friend
>>184120660
Check out Cornwall.
>>184120815
there is a wide range of options between reading wikipedia and having an empire that encompasses billions of people across all continents in the 18th century you absolute dullard. it's not a binary choice between playing completely historically and having a reddit blob that makes no sense at all.
>just finished organizing all stacks with engs and guards
>less than 0.5 avg militancy
>half of my army spergs out
>spend years fixing it
>it happens again
fuck this bullshit
>>184121023
>billions
>>184121023
N O B O D Y
C
A
R
E
S
>>184121023
Did you see Kola and Lolland? I'll give it back since The Great Achievement War of 1666 never happened IRL.
>>184121030
average militancy is not the same as individual pop militancy, mate. maybe EU:IV is more your speed.
>>184112282
>>184114124
>Islamic Gommunism
Had a giggle m8
>>184121131
>Ncares
>>184121023
This guy is going to give out (You)s all night I think so I'm digging out some EU4 screenshots.
r8 Austria
>>184121279
But you can't pass reforms to appease them if you don't have high militancy, nor did I do anything to piss off my primary culture soldiers
>mate
maybe >>>/r/paradoxplaza is more your speed
>>184121679
then maybe you shouldn't blob outside of accepted culture areas?
>>184121415
I blobbed but I gave it all back for the Authority
>>184121791
I didn't.I only have the British Isles, Canada and Australia.The Irish are the only relevant non-accepted culture but they all have very low mil
>>184121415
Vic2>CK2>>>>EUIV>>>>>>>>>HOIIV
>>184122132
Genoan Venice? Not bad. How is playing Genoa?
I got bored of trying to make a perfect Europe here.
>>184061668
Here we go again, this time without the succession memes. Hopefully without the AI bugging and retreating behind my forts as well
>>184122331
>perfect
>russia exists
WRONG
>>184122313
Vic2>CK2>>>>EUIV>>>>>>>>>HOIIV>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>DH
>>184122632
>got lucky enough to start with an inquisitor
Based RNG. Now I can purge all the Sunnis and start blobbing in just 5 years
new thread
>>184122847
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>>184122869
SAD
>>184121415
From the Baltic to the Bosphorous
>>184122860
what mod
>>184122869
>XX eu4 posts too early
>>184122632
>playing as sandcoons
>>184122860
All my heretic provinces have a large Zoroastrian minority, which means that they'll all turn into Zoroastrian once the purge is completed (i.e 1362)
>>184123024
M&T
>>184123242
what's even the point, M&T is shit
>>184122132
why are you helping the slavs
Just imagine how bad your economy would be if it was you.
>They don't have a dept
>They have 0 unrest
This is not even fun to this point
>>184120937
why the fuck would you blob that much
>>184121279
this
>>184123302
>M&T is shit
vanilla is shittier tho, just look at all the blobs ITT
>>184123410
just do what your people do and surrender
>>184123410
hon hon hon
>>184121679
are you frustrated mate?
>>184123548
At least it isn't bloated shit.
>>184123410
sacre bleau
>>184123410
I've seen then go in much more debt and still hire hundrends of thousands of mercs
>>184014676
You are a beautiful person
>>184124067
xir's right though