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/pso2g/ - Phantasy Star Online 2 General #1305

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■ Current Update (7/26):「Heroes: EPISODE 5」Part 1
├ http://bumped.org/psublog/pso2-is-searching-for-heroes-in-episode-5/
└ http://pso2.jp/players/update/20170726/

■ Next Update (8/9):「Heroes: EPISODE 5」Part 2

■ Weekly Boost & Events Schedule
├ http://pso2.jp/players/boost/
├ Google: https://www.google.com/calendar/embed?src=pso2emgquest%40gmail.com
├ Random EQ Hourly Advance Notice (JP): https://twitter.com/pso2_emg_hour
└ Regular Maintenance: Wednesday @ 11:00 ~ 17:00 JST

■ Current Scratches: http://pso2.jp/players/catalog/scratch/
├ Tropical Summer Ocean (until 8/9)
├ Legendary Heroes (until 8/23)
└ [SG] Mother Cluster Imitation (until 12/13)

■ Current Collection Files
├ Beach 2017 (Fornis, until 9/6)
├ Phantom God (Zeinesis, until 11/1)
├ Majestic/Phantom Battleship (until 11/29)
├ Revolutio 2 (until 2018/3/7)
└ Aura (until 2018/3/21)

□ FAQs, Lilipans, Guides, (READ THESE BEFORE ASKING QUESTIONS)
├ General Information/News: http://bumped.org/psublog/
├ Basic English Patch: http://pso2.acf.me.uk/Manual/
└ Buy AC using PSO2es: http://pastebin.com/raDBtSpa (embed)

□ Database/Wiki
├ http://pso2.swiki.jp/index.php (JP)
├ http://pso2wiki.net/ (JP)
└ http://pso2.arks-visiphone.com (EN)

□ Simulators
├ Skill Trees: http://arks-layer.com/skillsim/skillcalc.php
├ Affixing: http://pso2affix.seilent.net/
└ Damage Calculator: http://4rt.info/psod/

Previous Thread: >>183871835
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>>183957072
I'm still fucking insanely mad we don't get that sword in some way.
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Leave the hero shitting in the old thread. The class isn't overpowered calm the fuck down
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Now that nude patches are not working, are ERPers finally gone for good?
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hero is fucking great
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Im really upset about how 12* units are apparently piss for everyone but me.
I just want some fucking armor that isnt from the badge shop for once.
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>>183957354
but you get it in the bonus scratch la :^)
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>>183957354
I'm still hoping they're holding out on it to put it in a future scratch.
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>>183956745
The files themselves are the same weapons as the ones from the original collection, plus the OT weapons from the original Tokyo release.

But they can be completed relatively quickly, and can all be upgraded now by trading them to Jig with Aether Fuses dropped from the new reworked version of Yamato.

The Seiga, Military themed, and Quotz series weapons in the Majestic Collection can be upgraded into brand new NT weapons, even the old OT ones with similar potentials but higher base stats. The Special Ability Factor for these weapons are Power, Shoot, or Technique VI, which grants +45 to the appropriate attack stat.

The A.I.S. and Yamato themed weapons in the Phantom Battleship Collection do not brand new upgraded versions, but instead Aether Fuses can be used to unlock new potentials for them. Also the eggs are in here if you're a Summoner.
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Where do I find the last enemy for stratos first skill point CO ?
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Reminder bow bravers just need to adapt and git gud instead of always crying about their class
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>>183958112
Anjadhu-lili? It has its own ARKS quest in Shironia Region (Harukotan).
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>>183957418
t. hero main
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>>183957878
Thanks!
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>my TE trees now have lots of points due to them giving point relief for every skill TEs need
>but because I'm not FO main, I have nothing to use those points on, because a TE/anythingotherthanFO's techs are are shit forever and masteries aren't going to fix it
>especially now that WIND MASTERY doesn't work on zanverse, a WIND TECH, because other classes were benefitting "too much"
>which also means I do effectively no damage instead of just subpar damage
>because sega would rather nerf the guys who already needed buffs, than fix the legitimately overpowered shit or how broken affixing has been for years (and instead keep making that worse)

>meanwhile, all my trees that actually were strapped for points remain strapped for points...

off to a lovely start. when do they fire this director and bring back suganuma.

>>183957354
>>183957724
the weapons she shows off have icons in the client. they'll probably be tied to the buster shit somehow. they were also being used in the showcases for the bustershit, after all.
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>>183958421
The weapons in the buster quest video are the 14*s
I don't know why everybody doesn't understand this when they literally could not look more different but they are not the same weapon.
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>>183957878
adding on to the part about the seiga/military/quotz stuff, the OT weapons that get made into NT have the bonus of coming with their cap at 35 even if you convert a brand new totally untouched one, so if you're hungry to blow the cash/fodder on grinding 13*s to waste them actually using those factors it's piss easy.
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>>183958421
>Fighters gets buffs
>Meanwhile the way to fix Bouncer was bumping up the non-weak power of elemental stance, though still lower than Bread SD.
Between shit like that, deleting bow and introducing Hero as strong as it is I refuse to believe this was accidental. You can't fuck up this badly by accident unless there was actually just zero testing.
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>>183958421
Allow me to point out (again) that "this director" was on Sugunuma's EP3 balance team
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Anyone know what C-5 of Bingo Card is?
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>>183960426
send a player a handjob
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>>183960426
send nudes
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>stinky fighters still mad at heroes for having more fun than them
Fuck off.
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>>183961284
FI BTFO by HERO hard.
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Remember when the game was actually balanced outside of bouncer and X/GU builds? Sega didn't like that apparently.
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>>183961485
Everything was btfo by hero
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IM THE STRONGEST
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>>183961782
not strong enough to be at 60fps
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>500k exp every 3 minutes in VH LQ2
The only thing Sega did right is give us easy leveling for Hero
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>>183961782
Nice fps nerd. You're not cool enough.
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>>183962034
fuk off lang

match the setting if you wanna take me on wtf is that bikini girl shit
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>no all-account stat bonus like +5 all ATK for getting hero to level 75
Boo, lame.
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>>183962126
I already logged out so I can't.

Also that's not even a bikini wow pls im not that lewd.
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>>183962237
Didn't someone just mention that it was +10 all attack and some PP or something
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>>183962325
Someone asked last thread if there was a class bonus and every reply was a different answer. It's pso2g being pso2g
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>>183961782
>the skeleton war is among us
i feared this day would come
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>>183962523
lol u mad
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If a robot wears a bikini is it really lewd?
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9 skill points left. Where should they go?
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>>183962726
depends on what robot we're talking about
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>>183962931
Increase All DEF Up

become fucking invincible
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>>183962931
victory shout
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>>183962662
At least it's not the rappy wars...
yet.
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>>183962258
either way this is a Newman-only planet

LEAVE
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>bow braver in the MPA
BAN ALL LEECHES
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>>183963454
>planet
It's a malformed extradimensional abortion in the center of a black hole
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Is Omega essentially dream zanarkand but on a bigger scale?
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>>183963660
THIS IS MY HOME
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>>183961986
What's wrong with ep5?
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>>183964058
We didn't get the sword Stratos is using in the OP
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>>183964058
mostly everything
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>>183963454
>newman only
I am dragon I do what I want.

Also I hope you enjoy your rape goblins raping all your people, both flatties and non flats.
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Why is hero sword so god damned fun? I seriously can't go back to any other classes after playing hero.
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>>183964737
They don't even have genitals. They will just impotently hump you until they get tired and bored and wander off
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>>183964737
Goblins?
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>>183964770
Because they attack fast while doing the same amount or more damage than slower classes and the weapon action is a fully stacked ilbarta.
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>>183963878
no, it's CANADA
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Does Hero need to do SPCOs to unlock the 80 cap? I've seen plenty of heroes that were above 75, surely not this many people bought bonus keys.
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>>183965371
Yes. Also, the current boosted LQs are why people are high level Hero as well.
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And the whining begins again because Sega decided to release an actually viable class instead of a weak pile of garbage
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>>183965465
Crazy, I saw 76+ Heroes this morning this too.
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>nerf compounds into the fucking ground
>make hero 100% better at casting techs anyway without even having to bother with retarded rainbow palettes
What the fuck were they thinking?
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>>183965564
Well, ticket spam and keys from last week also play a part in this. As soon as they get to SH, doing pug runs of LQ net over 1M EXP and everything melts if decently geared.
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>>183965727
You don't even need to pub it if you're well geared yourself. I started soloing it for no downtime since no one wants to ever fucking party up and it's a breeze with the scaling.
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>>183965653
You can't really properly play it like Force though, just spamming techs
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>>183965963
Sure, you don't have to but getting a group for the extra tri is nice. I mean as in you play with friends/teammates that just want runs to keep going.
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No really though this is getting fucking ridiculous. Has Sega fucked with the fun scratch or something? I've probably used over 150 excubes on this shit now and I haven't gotten a shop ticket.
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I just want to go home and do matter board stuff bros so i can catch up to episode 5 :3
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>>183966068
>150
hello newfriend
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>>183966068
You're just not getting lucky. The rate's always been low. To be honest, I'm surprised they haven't lowered the rate because there's so little reason to sub premium nowadays.
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>>183966294
>hello newfriend
Fuck off don't act like this is the norm. Shop tickets are never this annoying to get.
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>>183966564
you need 113 more
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>>183966564
They have literally always been this annoying to get
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>>183966407
I just buy premium. I was paying a WoW subscription anyway. I think its worth it if only for the convenience.
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>>183966627
I've probably never went over 40k FUN dry in my time playing this game. It's just getting comical at this point.
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>Kranos hair
What the fuck were they thinking? Why is it so hard to give males something that looks good, or hell, even mediocre at best?
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How do you run triggers using this new block system? How do I not get shitters in my triggers?
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ooga booga wheres da new redrum at
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How are the changes to Gunner? It was decreased recast time for Chain Trigger and Chain Trigger stays on longer?
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>Multi block matchmaking is broken
>Deus and Yamato CFs are broke
>No buster quests
>balance out the window
I miss EP4 already
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>>183967793
Gunner is god-tier now.
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>>183967770
44
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>>183967793
They're pretty great. Level 10 chain trigger now has a 45 sec cooldown. I don't know how much longer the chain lasts exactly but it's pretty long.
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How long until delusional herobabbies get BTFO?
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>>183968186
stay mad Fi
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what's with the EN google calendar just saying "Magisterial"
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>>183968104
When you say it lasts longer, how so? Does it stay on for longer after you pop the chain with a PA? Does it stay on longer while you're building it? I wish Sega patch notes weren't so fucking vague so the days after a major balance patch didn't have to be about homework figuring out what changed and by how much.
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what do I have to do for the second hero level cap client order?
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block 12 ship 2 TD4 trigger
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Reminder to all fofriends to drop fo and go tech hero.
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>>183968409
Do triggers support multi block matching?
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>>183968432
Everyone playing a legacy class should switch. They decided hero shouldn't have any flaws and should do nearly everything better than the old classes.
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>>183968384
I couldn't give a very accurate description but the 20 chain I put on Fang was able to stick for however long he stays up the tree for that one attack, so maybe 8 seconds? Usually a chain like that would wear off shortly after a knockdown.

Also the chain finish skill was buffed to be 250% rather than the 135% it was before so that's nice.
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>>183968186
As soon as you get nerfed with us ficuck
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>anyone who complains about hero is fi
nice forced meme OH
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>Fi mains will NEVER EVER know what it's like to feel motivated
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>>183968432
It would be one thing if Hero damage was higher, but the thing that really makes me mad is their PP regen. TMG weapon action is an improved built in orbit and sword can rebuild PP incredibly fast while doing some moderate damage. Meanwhile force is stuck using a gunslash from episode 2 for PP regen.
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Is the game dead already?

I cant find anyone for LQ 1-4 or LQ2 cant even fill a trigger. Wtf is going on.
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>>183969267
meanwhile force is fucking dead lmao
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>>183969267
Yeah but Sega is gonna do Sega things. Just play hero and pretend it's a buffed fo, that's what I'm doing.
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>>183969326
Hope you're not using cross block matchmaking
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>>183969267
How's it feel you piece of shit
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>>183969480
huh?
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>>183969267
You had your long period of being OP it's time to move on or accept your cooldown period like every other class besides Fi for some reason.
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>>183969542
GU is really strong now as well.
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>"""""advanced""""" class
>easier to play than most of the classes in this game
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>>183969542
>affix 200+ PP
>make a rainbow palette full of weapons
>after that, finally be good
>literally useless now because hero does everything you do except better
>when GU basically had a sidegrade outside of damage cap fucking over IF-0 and FI was straight up buffed
Yeah, nah, fuck off.
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>>183969756
>lowest skill floor
>"""""""""highest"""""""" skill ceiling
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>>183969465
Is nobody using this for some reason? Felt like it took longer to get a full Yamato room than normal.
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>>183969845
It's completely broken right now.
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>>183969756
I mean I'm not going to try to act like it's hard but at least it has actual mechanics besides "spam this PA" or "rotate these 2 PAs"
In that sense it is an advanced class.
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Does doing damage with techs increase your hero gear?
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>>183969542
You're misunderstanding me. I would have accepted the force nerfs just fine if Hero didn't exist, I've stuck with force through thick and thin for years. The thing I'm complaining about is Hero. Being nerfed is one thing, but being replaced is another. It's not a meme that Hero can cast better than Fo can, so what's the point of Force any more? PP management is easier, you do more damage, and gearing is much easier. Hero is straight up deleting classes right now.
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>>183970014
>Hero is straight up deleting classes right now.
And now you know how every melee class has felt for the past episode in regards to Fi
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>>183970158
That's exactly how I felt as FI when s-roll became a thing
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>>183970158
Believe me, I'm no stranger. My 2nd favorite class was Bow Br which was slowly dying until Sega took them behind the barn in the ep5 patch. I'm just going to play hero until it's hopefully nerfed since I imagine they'll also buff other things to compensate for how out of whack things are right now. I want to go home.
>>183969960
No, you only would ever want to consider casting technics when you've given up on reaching Hero Time.
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>>183970621
>Until it's hopefully nerfed
Look I get that it has that new class effect so everybody is looking for something to cry about but you know Hero isn't even in the number 1 spot right now, right? Fi and Gu still out damage it by seemingly a pretty fair margin and the verdict is still up on Su after the changes.
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Hero TMG with EPPR Field ring is so broken.
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>>183970845
People are too busy with hero to realise that gu was actually decently buffed .
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>>183970845
My main class got replaced by Hero and my sub may as well not be in the game any more. You understand why Hero has my ire right now, misguided as it is. We were all expecting Fighter to still be bullshit, but I don't think anyone was predicting banish would be increased to be 50PP for much less damage and Hero to be a better caster (not that it does a lot of it).
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>>183970845
After playing hero for a few hours at lv 75 I think its balanced. At lower levels it is stronger than other classes sure but its end game performance is slightly above average. You lack many survivability tools that other melee classes have available.

For instance its very difficult for a hero to survive a gang bang situation where a br/hu or hu/br or even fi/hu have automate and multiple iron wills available.Its damage is high but it sacrifices for it by being somewhat squishy. I find myself having to cast resta just more often than not.
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>>183971541
That's when you whip out your techs at long range anon, let the other melees go into the clusterfuck instead.
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>Bouncer is even worse in ep5 relative to the other classes
>Can't even call itself a casting melee any more because Hero successfully did what Bouncer was always meant to be able to do
Just take Bouncer off the list of playable classes and refund everyone with a 75 Bo a 100% triboost.
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>>183971886
Fuck you I still like playing Bo. It still feels different enough than hero.
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>>183971541
>hu/br
The fact that you even list this lets me know you have no idea how to play the game.
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>>183971886
I mean any class that isn't FI, GU, HR, and FO on mobs isn't really relevant
I probably just described the entire makeup of buster quest MPAs
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>hero talis even has good PP regen on hit
>while FO is stuck with queen viera or sitting around with an orbit
>rod shoot is still complete trash
This is just a complete kick in the dick.
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>>183973032
Reroll idiot
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>Apoptosis was 2m or so a few days ago
>People bought all of them and are trying to sell them for over 100m each
This is hilarious
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>>183972240
There will always be guren dashers.
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>"oh episode 5 is out"
>exe permission bullshit
>try to patch with tweaker
>it just stops the filecheck randomly
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>>183973032
>Segac has always subscribed to power creep in some way or another
>People unironically surprised that some mary sue class is dunking so many others
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>>183971886
>refund everyone with a 75 Bo a 100% triboost
>75 BO is only worth one 100% tri
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Does rdr affect anniversary badges?
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>>183969398
the more people that levels and plays their fagballs class, the more you send the message that their gay bullshit is acceptable
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>>183975810
That's how we ended up with Hero, no one played Summoner.
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>>183975876
the false cause is strong with you
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Shooting off 999k Big Bang attacks at will is truly insane, they’re going to have to buff Esca cause even with the damage cap he’s going to be fucked if a party of 80 Hero shoot those fuckers off repeatedly before he gets up
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http://pso2.jp/players/news/20115/

They've identified the conflict with the CF gauge/drop issue, it seems to be cross-block matching, and it appears to affect all quests. The recommended workaround for the moment is just to avoid using it

A fix is in the works and emergency maintenance will be scheduled once it's ready, so be ready for that
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Is hero counter skill one of those where 1 point is best value for money or just max it
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>>183977159
What's an Esca
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>>183977303
esca ragnus
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>>183977280
Max it. It's guaranteed more damage, and the better you get at hero, the more you will be dodging and countering successfully.
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>>183976180
what does it say?
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>Fornis TMG with hero tmg basic attack
like the good ol' days of guld milla infinite fire
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>tfw Hero does more damage than an AIS
You sure this class gets balanced at endgame? I'm feeling dirty despite all this fun.
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>>183978009
hero becomes as strong as lv 80 class at lv 40 then after that the power increase slows down a lot so yes
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>Stratos's HrCube orders open at level 65
And where do I get HrCubes on such a level?
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>>183977957
you could just pop a megiverse and spam normal
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>>183979009
From other characters that leveled up, of course. You've never leveled hunter on multiple characters before?
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What's the point of one more jump on hero if you can just teleport over walls in TD?
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I WANT A FUCKING HERO CAMO
Qliphad is too ugly and old looking, not heroic enough.
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I made it!
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>>183981416
Nah, that client is probably outdated since we got new major update sized 3GB yesterday.
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>>183981593
Yes, I believe I'll end up updating almost 8gigkeks which equals around 16 more hours.
But it's a start. What's the current client size?
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>release tons of fornis weapons
>release new enemies with other weaknesses
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>>183981905
>caring about fornis released after chocoway
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is pure r-atk the way to go on hero? TMG seems so much stronger than the other weapons
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>>183982236
Just do 150 all around units, anon
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>>183971021
they just announced a nerf to this, planned in August.
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>>183982372
Why bother when using Sword or Talis is suboptimal?
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>hero looked fun and technical as fuck in trailers
>in reality you just hold down LMB and everything dies, using anything else is useless
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>lvl46
>doing vh coast exploration
>feel like im doing 0 damage while enemies all hit for 1/3 - 2/3 hp

what went wrong, braver btw
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>>183982990
too many variables, gear, shit tree, no JAs
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>>183982990
Gitgud
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>>183982952
do you have brain damage?
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>>183983268
Do you? Sword and Talis are shit
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Will sega hit elememental field ring or its safe to use?
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>>183983730
use at your own risk
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>>183983730
http://pso2.jp/players/support/measures/i_measures_20170727_3/
It's confirmed to be nerfed
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>>183983040
should i be charging sakura endo after using it when the just attack flashes? or do i just use it?
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Are the other Braver moves worth using now or is it still Sakura Endo/Guren the class?
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Does star atomizer start iframes? I think im onto something
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>>183985138
Heard Asagiri and Shunka does a loty now BUT controlling them is annoying as shit
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>>183985254
Hien-Tsubaki still not worth it?
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Any new maidoll comics after hero was released?
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>ponthis hero solo trigger
Thots?
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Should I put panic on my weapon just to farm solo pd?
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>>183985609
No comic but there's this
https://twitter.com/maidoll/status/890201180537667584
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Anyone here uses the tweaker? Is it normal that it has 4 lines of file downloading but only 2 download after the first 4 are done?
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WHY DO I KEEP GETTING THIS MESSAGE
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>>183985936
dont crossblock match
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>>183985757
Nah, it is too random.
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tfw heroes carrying me through everything feels good man
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>>183986385
>leveling techer for hero
>lq
>3 heroes
I just shifta and zondeel and let them do all the flashy moves
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Is there a way to cross block match without needing to wait for everyone in the party to hit yes?
some people are really slow
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>>183987010
I don't think so.
They need to work on this.
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How does everyone deal with overwhelmingly shitty loot that you are drowned in? Like seriously it makes me not wanting to play even, every lq or eq i get full inventory of shit that i need to clear out and manage. It also doesn't help that you need to pick it up to see what is rolled on it.
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>>183987084
i sell it
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>>183987084
It's easier to manage now because you can recycle 10 stars in the campship.
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Is slapping app soul/doom/ether/noble,ele stamina a good 4 slot for hero?
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>>183985679
It's not even S rank
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My wife Xiera is cute
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>>183989858
>tells you she is your personal handler
>secretly handles every fucking ark on the ship
You wife is a slut anon. A SLUT.
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>>183989979
I want to be handled by xiera!
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Wow, Stratos sure is tiny
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>>183989979
I want to watch my wife Xiera handle other arks!
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>>183989858
Does she come with onahole installed?
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>>183989979
Reminder that to all the NPC's you are the protagonist and everyone else is a literal who
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did ranger get nerfed hard
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>>183990872
I like that this new story really makes you the HERO
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>>183990986
Damage halved in non-jammed content.
50% more WB wars with multiple rangers.
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>>183991198
>multiple rangers
Yeah, not happening.
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Whoever thought that making cross-block matching the default option of making a room deserves to be fired.
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why isnt there a weak rocket instead of weak bullet. whats the point of not being able to pew pew because you have to save your rifle to reapply weak bullet every 15 secs
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>>183991585
>have zero problems with it
>always load in rooms with 70+ guys melting the fuck out of everything
>have fun, exp and drop
Works for me anon.
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>>183991914
I spend double time in the tunnels for some reason, so by the time I do load in, It's just me inside.
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>>183991914
FUCK YOU
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>>183991914
People with no premium and toasters are having issues. :^)
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>>183991914
enjoying your no sheet progress?
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Am I supposed to use the bottom option when re-trying a quest?
Waiting for the mpa to fill is horrible whether I use cross-block or single-block.
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>>183992159
Speaking of whichh. Emergency maintenance at 2am JST until 8am JST to fix this issue.
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>>183992176
>wait 5+ minutes to get a 2nd run
>only getting 2 runs because of this
What the fuck?
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>>183992176
They really fucked it up with that cross-block matchmaking. I fucking hate waiting for shit to fill up.
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>>183992145
>having toasters while playing pso2
I don't get how people can play like that, pso is unoptimized mess that you can only bruteforce through with enough hardware.
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>>183992686
Out of curiosity do you have expert only turned on in your matchmaking settings?
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>>183992730
pso2 isn't the most unoptimized piece of shit around my friend
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>>183992159
I can't even do sh, so no fucks given.
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>>183992934
I don't know where that is.
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im level 47 and still using a salizania nt (+10) should i be moving onto bigger and better things?
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>>183993209
Just keep grinding that one until you get a 12* and then keep grinding the 12* until you get a 13*.
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Do Izane and Emperor Rappy even spawn in Beach EQ? It's terribly boring
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>>183993108
Quest counter terminal > matching settings > match with expert players only.

If it's turned on, maybe turn it off. I haven't had any trouble getting MPAs with cross-block, personally. Even if I join and it's 6/12 it fills up really fast.
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>>183993290
Yes both of them, at the end
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>>183993307
Yeah, I was stuck in a 5/12 for 15 minutes thanks to this retarded feature.
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>>183987670
the timer on the right is how much tmie is left, not how long has elapsed. It's a a 6:20 run.
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>>183957436
What are you talking about?
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>>183992249
>kinda tired
>decide to have a nap before deus
>wake up to find they scrapped deus and in its place is maint
fuck you sega, that's a shitty birthday present.
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>>183993490
Right I am retarded. Was thinking about XQs.
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>>183993307
This is why "match with expert players" is bad right now.
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>>183990496
I can't wait for lewds of my new wife.
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>>183994698
What does it say?
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>>183994698
Seems like people don't give a crap about expert matching anymore, or they only turn it on for content where it matters.
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>>183994704
Do you really want to see her impaled on goblin dick?
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>>183994704
Fucking furries fuck off.
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>>183995015
Speak for yourself homo.
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>>183995039
I want to see her enslaved by goblins, impregnated, and eventually giving birth to a human/goblin hybrid aka a newman
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>>183995015
I'm pretty sure it's more that since it's not enabled by default, nor mentioned anywhere, most people who could simply haven't enabled it. It explains why a td4 run i had today was so fucking bad too.

I wonder how long it'll take for 2ch to realise and set up unofficial expert blocks.
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>hm let me try this sword shift action level 2 skill out, though at 1SP it shouldn't do much
>250k
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What are the odds of sega only fixing the CF issue and ignoring matching problems entirely?
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>>183995379
Flip a coin, Sega does whatever regardless.
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>>183994698
>>183995015
>>183995285
>>183995379
>expertcucks mad
Even sega agrees that you are there to carry non experts in all the relevant content, understand and accept your place in pso2, faggots
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So... If I want to 8 slot affix something with factors, do EVERY SINGLE ONE of the factor weapons have to be 8 slots too?
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>>183995575
Why are you proud of being brain-dead?
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>>183995575
I`m filtering you out.
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>>183995702
You need to have at least the same number of affixes as your main equipment.
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>>183995830
What the fuck. It took me all day and millions of meseta and thousands of excubes just to 8 slot the base weapon.
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>>183995918
why do you think people say 7s is the max realistically possible?
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>>183995728
I don't care to do shitty affixing gambling to stay meta in anime dress up game when you can easily get by on the backs of autists that do.
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whats the fastest way to unlock the level 80 cap?
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What are you all using as Hero for bossing? Specifically parts where a core is exposed and are free to use whatever PAs you want for damage.
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>>183996682
LQ5.
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Is it just or are SEA people legit assholes? I got one in my team that always says shiet and doess some kind of "wkwkw" kind of shit.
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Was really hoping the omnibus quests had an Easy Mode like the Story Board so I could finally clear episode 3 so OF COURSE they don't
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>>183997497
Seems like you've encountered an Indonesian. Indonesian weebs are a special brand of stupid, followed by Singaporean and and then Malaysian.
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>>183996851
TMG normals all the time.
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>>183995267
You mean a newearl (male)?
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What's the transfer rate of Deus Factor? Is it 100% like fevers?
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>>183999465
30/50/70 2/3/3+escard soul.
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Should Fornis be an element OTHER than fire and light since those will trigger its special effect regardless?
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Fucking finally. With the hero class I have beaten 10th stage of second solo XQ and I regret spending time and meseta for grinding fornises. HP regen on last boss is cut so hard that only Chainsawd can keep up. From now on I will only use Chainsawd. Fuck fornises.
>>184000274
Once again, for emphasis: fuck fornises.
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>>184000274
which fornis is fire/light and why isn't it available now?
all the current ones are ass. fuck you sega.
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>join random party for lq
>jp calls me cute and keeps hugging me
>starts asking why I won't respond
>too afraid of being banned because of my kindergarten level Japanese

wat do
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>>184000586
Sword is fire/light i think
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>>184000274
I hope you got four of them. If my hunch is correct, second castle will have weakness other han fire.
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>>184000887
>the hero weapon is perfect for the new episode
oh my fuck
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Why is Hero Iron Will workig only one time out of, like, ten? 100%, my ass.
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>>184001027
Iron crutch
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>>184000586
>>184000956
Just in case you needed proof or something
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>test theory that hero is better at casting techs than force
>traces XH TA
>hero ragrants with Zein talis does 6-7k per tick on Malluda
>fote ragrants with Zein rod (same affixes) does 12k per tick
/pso2g/ is once again full of bullshit. What a fucking surprise.
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>>184000757
activate auto-run
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>>184001027
Are you trying to proc it more than once per quest?
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>>184000757
post character
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>>184001272
>once per quest
Sega, fix hero.
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>>184001163
ok
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>>184000557
someone is salty that he doesn't have fornis tmgs.
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>>184001163
Did you make sure to check that the stats are the same? The only variable you are supposed to have is the class, nothing else.
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>>184001163
>rod does more damage than talis

Who would have thought.
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Fuck off Sega, I took today and tomorrow off from work so I could play around with Hero all day without any distractions and now they are doing a fucking Emergency Maint.
Might as well have gone to work, this is absurd, nobody gives half a shit about the current CFs anyways
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>>183982372
how do i make that?
i never affix all around units only single stat so dont know whats good
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>emergency maintenance
>they aren't fixing the matchmaking or even addressing it
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>>184001163
>Not using the talis on both classes
Are you brain damaged?
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>>184002910
It's not scheduled to be super super long. You might be able to get a few more hours when it comes back up.
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Is 100/5 affixes okay on weps if i cant go any higher?
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>>184002546
>>184003330
The original claim was that hero is a better tech caster than force. It isn't. Force is still much worse though.
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>>184003886
Your evidence does not disprove this statement.
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>>184004491
where's your evidence that proves it
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>>184004895
where's your evidence that disproves it
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>>184004895
Okay so the claim is that hero is a better caster than force despite techs doing 40%-50% less damage. What makes it better?
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>>184003547
It's supposed to be 6h long. At that point I would have been home from work anyways, this shit is fucked.
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>>184005068
They might finish it early. They finish this past maint early
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What element should i make my fornis tmgs, Fire? What about sword?
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>>184001163
Do you actually have the weapon boost skills?
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>>184005859
Until we know what element not-Alexander and the new bosses are light would be the safest for now.
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>>184001163
>ragrants
kill yourself
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>>184006113
but fornis already has light in its potential.
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>>184002183
Learn to read, shitstain. I said I regret spending time and meseta on fornises. I have three of each kind and they all shit compared to Chainsawd. Try reading posts before replying to them, it will save you from outing yourself as an illiterate faggot. Oh, wait, why am I telling this to you, you can't read this post because you ae an illeterate faggot.
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>>184006723
Light is recommended for fornis weapons because of their Phrase Weak SAF, which gives a a 2% damage bonus against enemies who are weak to the weapon's element. Since all raid bosses so far except Yamato are weak to light, light is generally used for everything you can get Phrase Weak on.
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>>184006723
And why exactly should that matter? You'd be retarded to make it Fire just because it's not included in the potential. If you want to use it to kill Goblins that's a different thing, but then you should've said so and you probably wouldn't even need to ask.
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>>184006784
>ae
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>Deus Esca cancelled for maintenance
Are you fucking kidding
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>>184006784
>so frustrated he makes 2 typos in a row
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>>184007191
We are sorry that we are sorry please enjoy 100% tribooster
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>>184006784
>you ae an illeterate faggot
>you ae an illeterate faggot.
>ae
>illeterate
>you ae an illeterate faggot
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>>184006784
>you will never be this mad OR wrong
where are your fornises?
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>>184006902
>You'd be retarded to make it Fire just because it's not included in the potential.
Why is it retarded to cover a bigger variety of enemies?
>>184006898
if you're going to limit your fornis to just 2 elements because of a SAF, just get a different weapon.
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>>184006784
How hard was it to type that?
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>>184006784
man you're REALLY salty you don't have fornis tmg's, huh?
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>>184007536
If you want something to use on every enemy you shouldn't pick a fucking Fornis weapon. Just get a pair of Qlip TMGs.
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Emergency maintenance, post hero screens!
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>>184007191
>>184007301
man I fucking woke up for this shit too. Fuck off sega I need my fuses and CF progress
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>>184008004
See you after emergency maintenance.
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>>184001163
My hero using a worse weapon around level 45 was hitting 50% harder than yours does, are you sure you're not an idiot? Are you sure you're not just making stuff up?
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>>184008014
the problem was supposedly that while files could reach 100% with the eq (and yamato so was written), you couldn't actually get the drop from the eq itself, so for deus that was basically a game breaker in terms of being able to finish the file, while for yamato it was honestly a non issue.
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>>184006113
We already know the castle boss element though, he's purely fire weak.
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how do I play fo
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>>184007191
Don't worry we'll get another in 7 days :^)
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>>184008172
Could they not have just waited a fucking hour for one of the only Deus Escas scheduled this week to happen?
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Translation of Sagas's announcement
>Right now Hero is doing as much damage as all other classes combined. This is not how it was intended to work. We are performing emergency maintenance to remove Hero class.
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>>184008415
>the only one
how am i suppose to get my zein now?
What the fuck is with Sega making c-files require enemy's literally no one can get?
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>>184008415
They rescheduled it you idiot, you didn't lose out on anything. Infact it's a good thing since you wouldn't have been able to finish any CFs the way it was.
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>>184006902
>Majority of enemies in buster quest including the castle are fire weak
>Making your weapon fire is retarded!!!
?
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>>184008004
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>>184008431
t. insecure ficuck
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>>184008564
The skeletals and liches are light weak as well. It's just the ogres and gobs that are weak to fire.
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>>184008550
>you wouldn't have been able to finish any CFs the way it was.
uh except you could have if you didn't use matchmaking you idiot
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>>184008550
My schedule doesn't allow me to hit more than like 40% of EQs at best, this was one of two Deus Escas I was actually able to hit this week. It doesn't fucking matter if they reschedule it if I can't be online for it.
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>>184008564
Read his whole post you idiot.
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>>184008564
A lot of people here seem to subscribe to the "your fornis weapon MUST be light because of phrase weak!", even though a triple element fornis is more practical even if you lose 2% extra damage against one , and 16% against another.
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>>184008731
Oh shit I'm sorry for that, you should send your player ID to Sega and explain your situation. They'll schedule a deus for you with a complimentary qliph drop.
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>>184008868
>completely ignoring the bonus satk for exploiting weaknesses
never change /pso2g/
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>>184008780
the potential of fornis weeapons covers <latent element 1, latent element 2, weapon element>, so you're the one who looks like a fool here, especially when fornis tmgs already include light/dark, so making them fire is a perfectly fine option as it then works on 3 elements instead of only 2.
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>>184009042
Or you could use a different weapon for off-elements and specialize in a single one on Fornis and actually do good damage instead. It's a difficult choice, I know.
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>>184009042
If you didn't have the reading comprehension of an eight year old mongol you would understand that that's what he meant in the first place.
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>>184009259
>you could go full autism for a slight boost
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>Game is down until 7PM EST
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK
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>>184008713
>you can finish a deus c-file in one run
are you high or is their something im not being told here?
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you are arguing over nothing niggers, if fornis is the only good 13* you have just make it light you can't go wrong with that
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How the fuck do I find a Team that isn't full of autists?
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>>184009540
If you leave before the crystal breaks you get your CF progress from the results screen but the quest doesn't count as completed so you can redo it. You'd need a pretty solid premade to knock out enough of them to finish your CFs in one lockout though, it's not really something most people could make use out of even if they wanted to.
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>>184009721
How the fuck do I find a Team that IS full of autists?
The ones I tried joining were all casual as fuck and didn't even use voice chat
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>>184008004
Hero is /fa/
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>>184008004
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>>184009723
Now that is something i'd like to try. Does it only count as completed if the crystal breaks or is that just you estimating the time you have before its considered complete?
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>he doesn't listen to /jp/ anthem while playing pso2
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>>184009815
I liked her better when she was in the corner.
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>>184009850
>and didn't even use voice chat
then you must join any normie team
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>>184009723
I'm calling bullshit, going to need some video proof of this.
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>>184009631
You are fucking imbecile.
Fornis Sword already has Light in its potential.
Fornis TMGs already have Light in its potential.
Fornis Talis already has Light in its potential.
See? No need to make it Light elemental.
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>>184010063
if there was video proof, someone would show it to sega
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>>184009857
i liked so much their sidestory events, they are very cute pair
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>>184010196
post screen shots then, anything to let us here know your not bullshitting us.
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>>184010162
No you need to make it light for irrelevant content even though buster quest is mainly fire weak
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>>184010196
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>>184010162
talis is the only one you can truly make an argument for light on, because of element conversion on force.
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>>184010321
it's pso2g dude, you have to learn how to recognize people bullshitting you for fun because they have nothing better to do
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>>184010323
Correction: the first buster quest is fire weak. They are going to rotate elements.
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>>184010541
Was this confirmed somewhere? Do they really hate rainbow palette players that much?
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>>184010504
Disappointing then. I was hoping i could at lest speed up my zein caliber since deus is on its way out for shitwars.
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How much damage does the element on a weapon actually add?
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>>184010679
20 damage, 50 on weakpoints.
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>>184008004
Back to werk
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>>184010679
For non-rainbow classes, you get element/100 * weapon atk as extra atk. So for example, if you have a 1700 atk sword, you have 1700 s-atk + 1020 s-atk from 60 ele. The damage contributed by that 1020 s-atk will be multiplied by 1.2. That's the important part, your entire attack isn't multiplied by 1.2, just the damage increase given by that specific 1020 s-atk. The rest of your s-atk and the base damage do not receive elemental bonus. It's really not a big deal unless you're bouncer/techer/force for the most part who have additional element matching skills.
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>>184010162
I wasn't talking about potential you stupid monkey. Don't you know how weapon's attribute works?
If you already have Qliphad ofcourse there is no point of making light Fornis. But if it is the only good shit you have then light makes perfect sense.
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>5 hour maint just to fix a bug

what the fuck sega i got shit to do today
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>>184011394
well now that the game is down you can do those things!
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>>184008004
Ero
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Hero solo PD runs still look pretty unoptimized, they'll probably end up faster than everyone except Fi and maybe Gu depending on how the buffs work out.
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>>184011530
Do you have brain problems?
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Guys what the fuck is a Fornis
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>>184011937
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>>183977905
Dengeki Playstaion
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>>184011937
Form
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>>184008004
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>>184011937
omelette du fromage
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>>184012259
that's a pirate not a hero
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>>183991804
the "replace your normal attack" mechanic is retarded and has been since the start

that said though you still have PAs and dive roll shoot
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>>184008004
>tfw you know hero is gonna get nerfed
>tfw you don't need a hero class to be a hero
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>>184011394
they don't really care because it's the middle of the night on a weekday in japan
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>>184012416
>lolzanverse
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>>184012416
>tfw you know hero is gonna get nerfed
Fi and Gu first
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Fornis rifle is the only decent looking one in the series
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>>184012584
>implying I ever use Zanverse

>>184012636
BR too, fuck it. Just nerf every class but Hero.
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>>184012416
Hero isn't even the best class right now though. I understand why everyone hates it because half of the classes got annihilated or received no help in the ep5 balance patch and were met with a shiny new class that can almost compete with Fi. The problem isn't Hero though, even if you remove them from the equation, Gu and Fi still shit over everything else. They need to either normalize Gu and Fi or buff everyone else up to their level. Preferably buff everyone because clearing content half as fast as I did last episode and bow being fucking dead sure didn't make me look forward to this episode.
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>>184012696
talis looks good, but bow is probably the best looking one.
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>>184012385
>>184012259
that's an ugly, not either of those.
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>>184012696
to be fair, fornis sword looks really good with hero normals
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>>184012774
>Hero isn't even the best class right now though
>watch as a bunch of Heroes in an MPA wipe a field in seconds
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>>184012696
it would look good without the under blade
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>>184012832
Talis looks too generic and the others are too busy and overdone, knuckles look decent too I guess
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>>184012936
New class effect. Watching a team of heroes wipe out a bunch of mobs quickly isn't anything a team of, say, bravers can't do.
You're just focused on it because it's shiny and new when in reality the buffs to Gu made it fucking ridiculous and Fi is still as fucked up as ever.
Hell even Br might be better DPS than Hero with the shunka buff but I don't know enough about Br to say that for sure. On top of that Su still exists and it's probably still in a pretty strong position after the nerf.
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>Rikauteri in perfect situations is barely better than just casting from a wand but way less PP efficient
Why did they have to destroy Techer when Fo was the problem, fuck off. Maybe give us a fucking viable weapon so we don't need to leech off Force, Summoner and Braver for damage.
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>>184013579
Rikauteri hasn't been good for 3 years mate, you are kinda late to the party
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>>184013579
>rikauteri
are we still in episode2 or something
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>>184013445
>Hell even Br might be better DPS than Hero
It most likely is even without the shunka buff. Sakura End type 0 and Gekka is disgusting.
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>>184013687
>>184013735
You didn't use it in MPAs but it was still relevant for solo Techer play if you didn't want to play one of the other class combos, it was better than anything Techer itself had. Now there's fucking nothing left, though I wonder if you would understand because there's only 1-2 other Techer mains in this general it feels like. The last time I mentioned Te/Su I got mobbed and called a retard for that class combo so pso2g doesn't strike me as knowledgeable about Techer.
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>>183991804
>>184012402
Special bullets should be the weapon action of rifles.
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>>184013579
The biggest problem with Techer is that generally having more than one present is pointless

But I'm not really sure how they can change this without destroying the one thing they are indisputably best at
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>>184013579
>fo was the problem
>not BR, GU, FI

Kill yourself
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>>184012774
I don't mind GU and FI being top dogs on those raid bosses, but other classes need to offer something else to make runs go faster instead of just being a different gimmick/"playstyle"
But this patch basically showed that they hate support dps classes so it's w/e
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>>184011931
you too
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>>184014005
>only someone who mains Techer can possibly understand it!!!
>some idiot was talking shit about TeSu so that means all of /pso2g/ is retarded!111!!!!!!!
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>>184014178
Braver was okay but not super special.
Force was plainly overpowered at everything
Fighter was at the level of Force mostly but without rainbow shits and a good bit harder with less utility
Gunner is mostly a problem with huge bursts and I don't know why it didn't get nerfed when volgraptor that was almost never used with chain anyway did.
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>>184014178
None of those were a Techer subclass for the reason they're strong.
>>184014209
You don't need them for mobbing and they're worse for bosses so what's the point? At least Techer still offers strong buffs as long as you're the only one in the MPA.
>>184014320
I was getting swarmed by people saying Te/Su was shit and not a real class combo, not a single person in the thread was calling the 3-4 people replying to me out.
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>>184014419
>not a single person in the thread was calling the 3-4 people replying to me out.
Why bother arguing with people that are most likely just trolling?
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>>184014361
Apparently burst is okay when it's Gu main

Gu subs are degenerate scum that should be sterilized
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I wanted to make an 8s AIS sword for my hero but I couldn’t even get that shit to 6s without spending all my meseta.

What’s a better sword alternative that isn’t Qilphad because I’ve completely missed that window?
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>>184014497
They were writing fucking paragraphs dude. I mean I guess you could be right but that's a ton of effort from multiple people just to jump on someone for mentioning Te/Su.
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>>184014584
Seikaiser
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>>184014419
they're right though, te/ra is the only viable class combo now. one TERA, 11 HERO.
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>>184013747
>gekka
Why the fuck everyone hailing it as second coming? It is the most awkward shit to use, especially on bosses with how slow the upward slash winds up and you can't really jump spam it because no ja.
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>>184014654
I think people in general just wince when they see anything/Su

And casting "mains" are especially defensive of their shit
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>>184014857
lol
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>>184014857
you're a special kind of retarded, aren't you
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>>184014857
You don't spam Gekka you goblin you use it after Sakura reducing the animation lag allowing you to start Sakura faster.
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>>184014909
For context they jumped at me because I said Te/Hu wasn't good right now and they all started writing paragraphs about how it's best Te class combo and wand whacking is relevant single target while shit talking the class combos I mentioned. In retrospect I guess they might have been fucking with me but I'm not used to such high effort shitposting if that's the case.
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>Br out DPS He
>when a single fully charged hero blast does more damage than two full Shunkas
>and can be used probably 3 times before someone gets those Shunkas off
I almost chortled out my anus
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>>184014972
Wait, how does it reduce animation lag when that shit itself is the animation lag if you are not airborne when doing it? And ja circle comes after the whole shit with jumping into the air then landing which takes eternity. I honestly don't get it, is there some trick to it that i am not aware of?
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>>184014857
We've truly reached the point where its become difficult to tell when someone is actually retarded or just pretending for these hot (You)s
thanks pso2g
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What would you recommend as some starter affixes for Hero Units?
I have around 100~130m to play with but all the recipes I looked at would easily cost more than that for a single unit
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Right now Hero's weapon switching gimmick is basically useless in practice, what's the fucking point if you can just spam one pa from one weapon? Why didn't they make a conditinal skill like +% damage increase for n seconds after switching a weapon? braindead as fuck """advanced""" class lmao.
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What kind of rappy is this
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>>184015669
doesn't the gear fill faster with combos?
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>>184015519
Sakura type-0 makes you airborne anon, you really should read some basic information about your class before you go crazy like this
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>>184015739
I would fug this rappie
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>>184015669
Have you even gotten to XH yet or tried to put out good damage? You can gain hero finish so many times in a single esca, literally 999k + whatever PAs you use during every time he is downed.
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>>184015519
This general's ruined me, I'm pretty sure you're shitposting and not an actual newbie but there's no way to know for sure.
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>>184013445
Summoner is still good
>fully canided melon throwing does decent as fuck as damage and you can throw melon the maximum amount of times so you dont have to worry about blowing up your face
>maron stage 2 damage got nerfed significant but you still do decent damage regardless but you would mainly want to take marron out when theres a move like quartz dragon's torrential rain, deua's grantz missles, etc.
>shinkurou still does great DPS while not adding its downed pet = Increased power personality
>Popple still great for Ult tier mobs
>Viola still good meaty as fuck meat shiel enemies
>aero still has fuck huge single target DPS
>Jinga still there for trash cleanin
>redran still has quick mobbing
>Rappy is still okay
>dear master buff makes to wear you can die unless you are legitimately mentally challenged
Summoner is still solid but everyone pretty much dropped it after Su/Gu died and maron nerf
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>>184015370
>when a single fully charged hero blast does more damage than two full Shunkas
Hyperbole is well and good anon but there's a limit to how far to take your bullshit
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>>184015590
>people can't possibly be new and everyone must already be aware of all the obscure mechanics in this game to post in general

We are reaching elitism level that should not be humanly possible.
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>>184015669
Because your gauge fills faster when you keep your JAs up through weapon switches which lets you shit out your retarded 800k+ dmg a hit Hero Finishers that much faster
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>>184015745
It does but since Hero time fills so slowly, there's a point where you know you can't fill it up again before you're done with whatever you're doing so there's no need to play for gear gain.
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>>184015745
yes, that guy is trolling, the gear fills faster with combos and weapon switch combos even more, its outright explained during the mandatory tutorial quest you did for level cap raise
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>>184015669
Have you even tried to use comprehensive combos? You’re retarded as fuck if you think just holding down the switch into mashing the PA of the next weapon is viable. You have to actually have predevolped combos, once you get a bread and butter, spam that shit and watch your gauge raise.
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>enemy/en_ptm_nutcrkr
>enemy/en_ptm_treestar
>enemy/en_ptm_reala
>enemy/en_ptm_firelog
>enemy/en_ptm_krampus
>enemy/en_ptm_santa
>enemy/en_ptm_phaleg_uniq
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>>184015978
Still updating here but once you initiate hero time are you supposed to do pa's/normals in order to charge whatever counter it has or it works differently?
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>>184016074
fuck off lilith this isnt one of your shitty fighting games

you have to go back
>>/fgg/
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>>184015759
Well you could say that at the start and we won't have this shit going. Also yeah i didn't know that type0 makes you airborne as i don't even have it and when i read on it i thought that the swing would jut be a third grounded hit or something. Anyway, thanks anon.
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>>184015924
Shunkas is doing 670k now? Didn’t think so
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>Partizan nerfed
>Bow nerfed
>Fighter still god
Feels good to be patrician
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>>184016250
>Implying the Hero level 3 blast does
I hit 175k on Bal Rodos' body at level ~60 the damage isn't going to fucking skyrocket to over triple of that amount in 15 levels anon.
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>>184016464
Partizan is still decent thanks to the other buffs, but bow is absolute dogshit
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>>184015937
>I shouldn't have to look up basic class and PA mechanics on my own, fuck learning everyone else should have to explain it because ITS NEW TO ME
Being new is fine, being obnoxious about it isn't you incompetent babby
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>>184016483
nigger i get like 200k on the body and atleast 700k at level 60 what the fucka re you doing
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>>184016192
isn't it just any hit like katana combat
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Is es on maint too?
I downloaded the new apk through the tweaker but it wont let me log in now for some reason it just loads forever andthen puts me back at title screen after a runes pop up i cant read
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>>184016242
To be fair the english resources are fucking shit, use swiki and just google translate that shit http://pso2(dot)swiki.jp/ it'll do you a lot better than asking for advice here 90% of the time, have fun cutting shit
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>>184016483
I don’t even wanna imagine being this shitty
Let me guess you get 100k on the corrupted AIS in Magtsu too, and not 999k?
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>>184016773
Who knows? You're probably just bullshitting me because I'm not undergeared or anything. I have 120+ attack units and a +35 seikaiser with +100 attack on it.
Also if that ~700k is on Bal Rodos' face of course it's going to hit high you idiot I could tickle Rodos' face with a fucking feather and hit over 200k
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>>184016871
es is tied to the game pretty closely so yeah
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>>184016582
What reason is there to use Partizan now if it doesn't have burst any more? Or did the volg nerf cancel out with the PA buffs unlike bow?
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>>184016964
>seikaizer
>120+ units
>not 150 qliph unit sets
>not 8s qliph
lmao
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>>184016964
> I have 120+ attack units
what affixes do you have? i want to make a new set for hero since my old saiki set is shit nwo but dont know what abilities to use
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I could deal with bouncer being shit if the support side of it was at least interesting but it's just a worse Te

>crit field is a joke
>PP field is only on regular attack and only helpful for tech classes who also do rainbow shit, who are hardly ever in a bouncer range
>heal share might as well not exist
>shifta and deband applied off JBs are just a minute each
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>>184017132
Apprentice soul, Modulator, Power III and Flict Arma
Gives 120 attack on the main stat you want and 70 in the other 2 as well as a bit of PP.
I'm also using units with inherent attack like red shine rear and shit so in reality it's way higher.
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>>184017132
Astral Soul, Ether Factor, Modulator, Doombreak, Mutation 2, Elegant Stamina
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>>184016917
Cirnopedia was fairly decent when i played back in ep2, but seems everybody abandoned it since then and the visiphone wiki is both slow as shit and barren as fuck.
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>>184017350
oh lol i thought you meant all atk. that affixes is shit for hero
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>>184015859
How many hits necessary to reach Maron stage 3?
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>>184017350
>no elegants or nobles
lmao
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>>184017562
>That affixes is shit for hero
We were talking about a sword weapon action so it's well and good for the discussion.

>>184017590
Let me just shit out meseta I don't have
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>>184017652
still shit even if it is for sword. >not making all attack units
fucking shitters i swear
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>>184017763
If 120 main stat units are shitter tier I don't even want to know what you call 95% of the games population
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>>184017423
yea cirno gave up on pso2, fag still updates a GO wiki and some other pet shit regularly, pso2s eng community is just not nearly as big as its JP counterpart so things fall through the cracks, visiphone is fine but yea slow as shit, you really are better off just google translating swiki and using what moonrune powers you have to figure shit out
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>>184017132
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>>184017903
I wish I was rich too.
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>>184017883
its shitter tier because it proves you just want to leech and didnt want to spend meseta on all atk units. Fucking fashion fags
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>>184017903
Be sure to screenshot your units when servers come back up, I'm sure you actually use this affix.
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>>184017132
Not that Anon but I'm using App soul / Mod / Ether / Noble stam. These are on Izane so I'm about 145 with talis/tmg since they're Fornis but qliph sword lets me go about 175-180. I'm doing pretty alright for PP management and I can always swap to TMG for JA reload (or activate EPPR/PPC ring)
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>>184018009
Not even that expensive.
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>>184017382
How would I go about affixing this? I never really understood how to affix astral soul and ether factor and avoided messing with them. How much would this cost?
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>>184018032
>leech
(You)
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>>184018119
That would easily cost you like 300m per unit, forget about it.
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>>184018119
If you need to ask, don't even think about it. That affix would end up pretty close to a billion.
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why are people bitching about other people using specialized piece from specialized unit sets they own on hero? arent mod, app. and noble/elegant prices through the roof?
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>>184018082
yeah sure a few hundred mil isn't that expensive
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>>184018119
If you need to ask you can't afford it., it'd run you like 500+ mil for a ~70% chance of success during affix boost week.
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>>184018209
>>184018230
What if astral was replaced with something else?
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>>184018268
If you aren't dedicated you have no right to be playing hero
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>>184018454
fuck off
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>>184018119
Astral soul requires 1 darkness soul + 4 soul catalysts. These catalysts require Double, Loser, Apprentice, Persona and Elder soul and it only has a 10% chance of succeeding without any boosts. Ether requires 1 Ether soul and 4 factor catalysts. Ether soul has a 10% chance of succeeding (full vegas/Toh soul with Escarde soul, I think) but if you have it; it acts like any other soul, allowing 100% transfer with a soul receptor. Factor catalysts require a Yamato, Mother and Deus factor. Same transfer rate as soul catalyst.

Now, if you think that's bad enough: Doing Astral + Ether means you have to get Astral done first and then use a soul receptor during the affix for both. Best part? Astral only has a 10% transfer when using a soul receptor, meaning that using a 40% is a 50% chance of getting both.
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What's the best overall 12* unit combo?
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>>184018601
Jesus christ that sounds like a nightmare

Sega really should just overhaul the affixing process
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>>184018440
Look at >>184017903
Replace the Flicts with Doombreaks and then toss Mut2 in there somewhere, Fodder0 would be the easiest for it. Your chance of success would also be shit unless you do the entire thing with 6s fodder so don't even think about it and just drop the Mut2.
That recipe with the Flicts replaced by Doombreak would still cost you around 100m per unit with the prices right now, you could do it quite a bit cheaper if you upslot but then the chance of success is hilariously low outside of boost week.
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>>184018382
that one is like 150m tops, and really easy to make at that. Also you'd dump one of the mods from catalyst and stick on the ether soul/flict arma since ether soul is a 100% transfer rate with soul catalyst.

>>184018615
12* lq rear/izane arm/izane leg
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Anyone have that list of datamined ep5 fixes?
yeah ok some of them might be sonic fever tier but still interested
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What's the bare minimum you should have for a hero affix?
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>>184018937
>fixes
meant affixes better wake myself up
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>>184018824
They ought to do so, but, Astral Soul isn't really a typical affix either
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>>184019072
Something like Apprentice Soul / Vinculum / Mutation II / Doombreak is really easy to make and gets you 90/2 already, I'd say that's the bare minimum to not be a leech.
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>>184019265
okay not that bare minimum, I can spare a few million, that would be actual poverty
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>>184019072
if you cant do all attack units just use 100+ S atk. r atk and T atk units if you have dedicated sets to them.
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>>184019586
I haven't seriously affixed anything before, this is going to be my first
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>>184019586
That's way shittier than what >>184019265 said. You'd be an idiot to do that with how cheap it is to make a much better all atk set
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>>184019698
you're going to have to do it three times so make sure you have good money/get some 40% boosters from cube shop
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>>184018824
It's a pain and costs millions to do.

>>184019698
There's an affixing guide out there that can help you out a bunch (google for one that recently updated). The affix simulator (should be in the OP) will be your best friend when affixing.
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>>184019826
>if you can't do all attack units
>if you have dedicated sets
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>>184019831
>>184019883
I'm just not sure what the go to ability combos are for a given price point really
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Am I shitter if I'm still using +50 all atk crafted Saikis.
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>>184019983
Doesn't change the fact that it's incredibly bad and you'd be much better off spending the laughable 1.5m per unit it takes to make the 90 all-atk ones he mentioned.
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>>184019983
>tfw have 150 r atk rina arm, 150 t atk gruezora rear, and 150 S atk qlip leg
>still manage to do good damage
if you cant do All atk units for whatever reason something like this is fine

>>184020116
its really not that bad
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>>184020116
He's literally saying that's your only option if you can't spend the money required yet. What are you doing?
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>>184020228
If you have 150/x units but don't have the luxury to spare 4.5m I question your priorities.
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>>184020407
The units in question he suggested were 100+. The above poster has nothing to do with this.
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>>184020407
you can have 150atk units from years back though, not like they're a new thing or something
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So since Hero has the obvious L rings like air reversal, step jump, etc. What is everybody using for it's R slot?
Also what's up with the R slot? I though Hero was supposed to get more rings or have more R slots or something?
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>>184020167
Shouldn't you focus more on s atk instead of t atk though?
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>>184020107
silly anon, you're only a shitter if you play like shit, and frequently the people who complain the loudest about affixes are typically the biggest moon magnets
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>>184020904
They said Hero will get more skills in the form of L Rings in the future instead of them being added to the skill tree like they were on other classes so you'd have to choose and pick your specialization through your rings.
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>>184020904
I use Tech Arts JAPPS personally
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Does Hero have guard frames at the end of its shift action? I swear I see the parry effect somewhere.
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Why are people even making All Atk Units on Hero?
Wouldn't it be better to go big on S-Atk with R-Atk as a secondary while ignoring T-Atk almost completely? I don't really see the point in using shit like Mut2 or Abi3 over PowerIV and Flicts when most of your damage comes from Sword anyways
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>>184020723
people are basically sperging out that if you dont want to spend 100+ mil on all 100+ all attack unit sets or don't want to bother making 90 all atk unit set you dont deserve to play hero, you're a shitter etc. even though even if you cant do all atk units and decide to just use whatever you got from your dedicated unit sets and get by just fine

>>184021045
you can i just had grue rear because my other atk s and r atk units are on my fi and su alts

>>184021321
yeah i've seen a few people doing that.
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>>184012416
let me guess, you are new and not even capped
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>>184019265
What would be the cheapest way to make that?
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Is the battle arena fun? I;'m too scared to just run it.
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>>184022378
I heard it's offline.
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>>184022378
It's pretty fun.
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>>184022378
It's retarded fun and a salt maker
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>>184022378
Its a lot of fun on its own, it can become super frustrating if you want a high legend rank since matchmaking seems to just not exist, its worth doing at least once since getting to legend nets you something like 1100 SG for that month and regular weekly SG income if you keep up with it, super fun to murder other players too
also bullet bows suck and if you have gaijin ping you can actually work that to your advantage for sick phantom megid strats
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>>184023221
>megid
isn't foie the best tech? it destroys through walls
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>>184023221
hey i think your graphics card is fucked up there's a lot of black squares everywhere
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>>184023525
don't get me wrong foie is direct murder, but don't discount the power of megids slow homing, its all too easy to fire and forget and then it slowly chases them around a corner and hits someone else for the 1 shot, not to mention with gaijin ping you get some really bad desync and people have serious difficulty timing dodges on them as they slam into the ground next to them, overall I'd say foie is easily more reliable and I'm pretty sure I have more kills with it but megid has potential to wipe out groups without warning
>>184023576
I'll look into it
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>>184023221
>bullet bows suck

It is for the most time and if you have a shit manual aim, but bows are a sign of dread in tokyo map if you know how to use it

I mostly hang back near spawn point and snipe people or get in the rainbow zone and OHKO people with the shotgun mode

But still, bows are fucking useless on forest and volcano arena
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>>184023221
How often do you need to pvp to get the weekly SG Incoming?
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>>184024904
it's monthly SG isn't it
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>>184024904
I played only the release day and still get some.
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>>184024904
Depends on your luck more than anything really, like right there I hit 1 mvp bonus but also got support win and the juicy 200% from last rounds scratch, I could guess something like 10 wins? but thats probably way off since I just do pvp in large amounts and then just grab stuff as it comes up without checking price, win/loss and scratch multiplier you can't control much, but you can at least try for the mvp and support bonuses, you could probably knock it out in an hour or two 1 night a week honestly
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>>184024518
oh yea on tokyo they can be nasty, but tokyo is also the land of the free flanks so you probably won't be left alone long before someone comes to sword uppercut you out of existance, I've never had good luck since nemesis isn't hitscan and that bugs the shit out of me
>>184025081
you get a monthly reward based on your rank up to 2k gems for top 20, and then can buy weekly SG from arena shop
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>>184023221
Nice tip for Megid, didn't know I can use my inferior ping to my advantage. Kinda curious, how do you feel about Zonde and how would you recommend to use it effectively?
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>>184026830
Its awkward, its hitscan which is nice, its the most expensive tech which sucks, has a tiny aoe that barely matters, basicly its best used with the pp infinite at which point you become a short lived god of death since not even jbs flippy bullshit can avoid your thundercock, I've mainly found use for it peeking corners and tapping people down for somewhere around half their hp, works fairly decently against megid and ranged weapons and somewhat against foie depending on distance, you'll always hit first at least, still think its too expensive for what it is and the range leaves a bit to be desired, that said if you don't mind murdering your pp bar you can charge it up, zap someone, and then hit them with 1 or 2 uncharged which should take out most not swords on the spot without any real way for them to avoid it, its more about learning the maps honestly, but same can be said for all the pvp weapons
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>>184025847
Apparently most flanker wait me out when I'm using last nemesis because they are scared and I'm directly below the spawn point, also it is really easy to notice flanker due to their ARKS sign above their head

If you want to git gud with the nemesis, you should predict how long the arrow gonna go and aim around here like picture related, that is if they don't jump or stop
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servers down? just reinstalled.
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>>184008004
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servers up
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>>184028615
Nice try
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>>184026830
Zonde is a camping tech, meaning you will wait out enemies as they appear an zap them with a surprise attack, normally you can't kill em without getting a lv 3 Zonde but it is best that you don't hold it. Make sure you have 60pp to get a death combo since anyone beside sword user will die by a charged perfect zonde and non charged Zonde.

Also since you are waiting for a target, you better look around and behind you if someone is flanking
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>>184028696
No it is, I'm logged in now you cuck
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servers are indeed up
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>>184028242
yea being under spawn means anyone not paying attention to deaths would avoid you outright, as far as the leading shots goes they usually wind up changing direction and it misses, so I get frustrated and just reroll or try to shotgun someone if I'm not top3
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>>184008078
Is there a way to get this exact outfit and colors yet?
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>>184029023
>servers barely up 5 minutes
>blocks empty
>lobbyfags already dancing around in their usual visiphone balcony areas

Are these actually bots?
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>>184028558
I am probably retarded but does this talis pa follows the same rules as redran laser pa?
because i have trouble getting to hit more than 2-3 targets at once
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servers are up my ass
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>>184029140
The white Cast in b1 has been there since literally CBT, you tell me
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>>184029103
It's a screenshot I took right before maintenance so yes.

ヘリオスディルア紅[Ba]
クエンディナマント[Ou]
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>>184029236
If the servers are not up, solus isn't gay.
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>>184029317
>CBT
yeah you know me
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>>184029083
Most of the time I get near misses of either too short or too late, also bow are map dependent so I jump on the walls to get a high vantage point

It's really fun to play bows in tokyo, you should practice your manual aim a lot, anon
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>>184029317
Ikachan?
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>>184029198
no, it is a straight up D.O.T. that hits up to 4 targets at a time.
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>>184029362
he's gay whether or not the servers are up regardless
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Where do you guys hang out now?
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>>184029484
>D.O.T.
What kind of mongoloid are you, literally have never seen anyone be so autistic when talking about DoTs.
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>>184029490
Seriously though, for real the servers have been up like 15 minutes now, login and get back to whatever you were doing. You should have expected it to have ended well within the given period.
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>>184029567
44
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>>184029716
yeah but he's still gay
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>>184029716
Stop fucking lying, it's not over
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>>184029967
>>184029997
Tee-hee!
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>>184030075
:D
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Regardless of how good hero is, the design still annoys me. It definitely feels like a new class in comparison to the legacy classes who feel like dinosaurs now. Hero is fast, doesn't need to bother with any clunky mechanics, has tools for every situation, has excellent PP management, etc. It's not slow and gear reliant like Hunter, it doesn't have PP issues of bow or force, it doesn't need to choose between being good at bossing or mobbing like the specialists such as Ranger. I wish they showed this kind of love to the old classes that need it instead of just telling people to move on.
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>>184031147
These things tend to happen in a lot of games sadly, but that's just the way things are. People who love the old classes for what they are will still play them.
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>>184031147
Not arguing really but we still need to see if/what new additions to the old classes sega will give throughout ep5 be it new craft pa/techs/pet evos/ skill numbers,mechanics change before we can see the full picture
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>>184031147
>Doesn't need to bother with any clunky mechanics
Weapon switching feels pretty clunky to me
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>>184031747
You get used to it. You need to know the combo route you want to use ahead of time rather than pure improv until you're familiar with it. It should end up feeling like one weapon once you're accustomed to it.
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>>184031747
get motivated or go home
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Where is everyone?
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>>184032427
cafe you nitwit
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>>184032427
Cafe, but don't expect anyone to be there right now due to maint/leveling
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>LQ3 is only a little over half the exp of LQ2 for a similar clear time
>Still better exp per minute than LQ1~4 thanks to Magatsu
I really should have hit 75 yesterday
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>>184032427
Which timeline did you come from?
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Can someone explain this cross-block matchmaking thing to me? What does it change exactly?
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>>184032676
Is LQ3 still faster XP than VHAQ?
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>lq 1-4 start 1 one shotting the dragons and exodas with spirit bullet
>Guy in party chat says "you dont need to show off"
>Proceeds to kill deus hunas with a sinfle hero finish
>Restart quest
>Guy leaves
Fucking ayyy lmao. This salt is top good
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>>184032427
Ki-rin! :D
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>>184032896
I'm making about 90k exp per minute in VH LQ3 solo using 75% exp booster and 50% tri donuts.
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>>184032992
>things that never happened
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Can everyone do the general a favor and not reply to the shitposter 4 posts above me, thanks
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sure thing, post above me
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>>184032896
Depends on how well your party is set up. For max efficiency, you have 4 players, keep a Nifta up almost the entire time during a burst, and do it on a vita block.
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>>184033306
Kys
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>>184033386
>do it on a vita block.
Why?
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>>184033549
Easier to keep burst up due to how spawn works I assume.
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>>184032992
Must have been a fighter
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>>184033549
Each burst in vita lasts twice as long (or was it 50%? It's been too long). This includes each burst on top of the next via cross bursts. This also means that since you kill so much more it does one more often too. Normal spawns however are less dense, and some certain maps are extremely thin on the normal spawns. But don't bother with vita unless you have a full party of 4.

Also with heroes and their TMGs coordination probably isn't necessary at all.
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>>184034029
Funnily and ironically enough it was
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>>184033060
aloha =)
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post hero sub pallets
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will we get any compensation for the downtime
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The rare LQ drops like coat edge, anga mag, etc. only drop on XH, right?
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>>184034415
one 25% triboost
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>>184034415
Yes, they said something was coming. Specific details as to what are pending.
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Can more people please buy the guidebook so I can get that shitty sword camo that comes with it for cheaper than 18m
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>>184034769
explain
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>>184032992
Wow just like the good ol shunka days
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>>184034863
*スカルシュトルム
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>>184034318
oh shit! damn dude hope youre doing well
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>>184034624
All difficulties
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>>184035318
>All difficulties
Since when? As far as I'm aware it was XH only.
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>>184034396
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>>184034396
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>>184036180
use something else besides zondeel by the way (talis pretty much does that), that's a placeholder
i also have shifta and deband on the below subpallette
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>>184036180
Why do you have trimate on your bar?
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>>184035454
I got a Coat Edge from Hard Mode while I was leveling BO, so at least that can definitely drop from the lower difficulties.
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>>184036304
>pp restorate

Take him to the gallows, boys.
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>>184035454
The only thing locked to XH is ardem's saber
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>>184036329
pretty much a "just in case" scenario, there's times where i'll be out of PP and not on TMG and i want my HP after heroically running away
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>>183985679
New time
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automate ring when
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>>184036493
Yup, figured as much in >>184011709
I wonder how much further it can go, I figured it would at least be able to tie the best Hu times.
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>>184036768
I'll give them a week to figure out all the best tricks to clearing faster and setting a perfect time. After that the times will become stale.
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>>184036427
WHAT IS THE ISSUE
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>>184034396
>>184036180
>>184036304
Mines is shitty
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>>184037619
>that PB
oh shit nigger what are you doing
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Where can I get the mods for this again?
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Is shunka still bad?
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>>184037938
ponies are the best
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>>184038151
ep5 broke mods
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>Hero needs to do the 21 class cube SPCOs
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>>184039005
Do you only need to do it with 1 character, or with every single one of them?
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>>184031747
I still just switch manually from the numpad. It's going to be hard to break this habit.
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>>184039005
c'mon anon, it'll take you like a day to hit 80
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>>184039447
All of my friends quit so I don't have anyone to get that fat party exp with. Even when I get pubs in LQs and I basically carry them no one wants to party.
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>>184039747
At least you are still motivated
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>>184037938
not him but I'm using that PB too. What should I use instead?
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>>184040491
Julius Nykta or Ketos Proi.
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When do you use rising slash and when do you use brightness end?
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>We're getting nearly 650 SG on August 9th
wew
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>>184040937
>Mobs spread out
Brightness end spam
>Mobs bunched together
Give them the dick with rising edge
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>>184039747
> See LQ bonus for LQ2
> Join EQ multiblock matching
> Run back to back to back
> Level 80
> Mfw, I forgot to eat.
> Mfw arms feel like falling off.
> Mfw wish I had a shit bucket.
> Tfw stomache is being deformed for being hunched over for so long.
> Mfw still haven't even started episode 5.
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>>184039747
I find actually mentioning partying up works best. A lot of people here will go full autism saying stupid shit like "YOU SHOULD NEVER SPEAK ITS AN UNWRITTEN RULE"nobody gives a fuck about some self imposed rule they give themselves, even the nips but in reality if you just say something like "Hey you should join up for the Tri-boost with a party maker down 9/10 times they'll join.
At least that's my experience anyways.
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>>184041937
I don't remember making this post...
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>>184039005
This so fucking stupid why would they make us go through this again.
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>>184043369
because literally every other class has to why wouldn't hero
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>>184043412
We are fucking heroes we have already proven ourselves.
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>>184043412
Because you need to lv75 3 different classes if you're new or if you never leveled one of the required classes which always means you already lv80d other classes.
This is just retarded.
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>>184043697
>You need to 75 3 classes in a period where 75ing a class is a complete joke and probably the easiest it has ever been to date
oh nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
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>>184043412
But whatever meng, I just hate that they didn't just make us do something else for those extra SPCOs that isn't exp related.
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>>184043832
>forcing me to play a stupid class nonstop for 12hours straight just to play hero
Fuck off. Not everyone enjoys eating shit, I just want to play the game.
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>>184044186
Then you don't get to enjoy what others enjoy, brainlett.
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>>184045153
>brainlett
nice try
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>>184045524
XD
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Post your crush!
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>>184045153
I did it anyway because I was bored of playing the great 3 melees.
Still fuck sega for making me do this.
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>>184044186
Send your player ID to Sega, they'll unlock hero class for you along with a fully affixed +35 qliphard weapon.
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Do heroes still carry in XH EQs :3 i need to get myself into XH mode asap
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remember /pso2g/ anons ACTUALLY thought hero would be shit
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>>184047064
I mean, it kinda is besides its mobility, but still better than the situation of most other classes.
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>>184047280
>but still better than the situation of most other classes.
so in other words not shit
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>>184046141
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>>184047280
>still thinks hero is shit
What the fuck is even wrong with you?
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>>184047280
It's the 2nd-3rd best class in the game depending on content and is one of the only remaining classes that can compete with Fi, what more do you want? Have you seen the crater half the other classes died in?
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>>184046141
my sodafu
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>>184046141
Ishya
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>>184046141
beho
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>>183962126
I tried, but I guess I failed. Rip quality.

Maybe I'll try recording under a different setting later but fug that too much effort.
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>>184048512
why does your character look like such shit now
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>>184048512
I thought you were a pig, not a dragon.
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>>184048512
>]
slut
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So im noob, should i take it easy or use my triboosts /xp boosts to reach 75 asap?
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>>184049180
youthful
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>>184049898
Up to you. If you're wanting to play Hero you'll have to hit 75 three times. I'd only recommend using boosts in certain cases, though, like AQs, EQs or when using bonus keys. You won't get much mileage out of them from normal quests.
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>>184049180
>now
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Is the difference in PP recovery actually noticeably different on an 8s AIS sword, for those with experience with it? I’m not exactly sure how it works
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>>184050786
You'll never 8 slot it anyways so it doesn't matter
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>>184051214
Don’t we get another boost week soon
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>>184051360
You'll never 8 slot it anyways so it doesn't matter
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>>184051439
Can you kill yourself, cancer?
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Do rangers do dmg at all now
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>>184051657
You'll never 8 slot it anyways so it doesn't matter
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>>184051665
They have been mediocre for a while, not the worst but not nearly the best.
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I quit when Ep4 came out
Is the game good yet
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>>184052265
No.
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Is the Hr skill ring worth getting?
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>>184052470
Just use eppr
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>>184052470
Effort symbol rings are all shit. Use tech arts JAPPS or EPPR.
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Is there a way to change the color of the Volcano Helmet? I see some people with silver but mine is stuck on yellow.
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>>184052529
>>184052603
>eppr
?
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Which skillrings for BRaver the katana ones all seem rubbish
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>>184052805
Ignore them, it's being fixed next maint.
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>>184052790
Some accessories have predefined colors, some will match your costume color.
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>>184052945
I mean, I don't even know what that stands for. I looked through all of the R rings and didn't see something that abbreviates to eppr
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>>184052603
Fighter uses effort symbol
>>184053015
Element pp restorate or something, it's only good because of a bug though. Personally I use TAJA ring
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>>184053232
>only good because of a but
what does the bug do?
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>>184053302
It makes it so Hero's TMG attacks restore PP, when they're supposed to drain it.
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>>184053232
Sad thing is it's not even a bug, it's an intended mechanics based on how the default attack works for HR TMGs, SEGA are just fucking retarded.

>>184053302
EPPR means when your element matches your targets weakness, you gain PP. HR TMGs standard attack hits so fast and with the reduction skill tree regens more than it uses for infinite usage.
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>>184050786
The AIS sword doesn't affect PP recovery. It gives -20% PP costs at 8 slots, -17.5% at 7 slots, -15% at 6 slots. I just 8 slotted mine and it was a bitch, but I'm happy with it now.
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>>184053302
Not exactly a bug, just an oversight on SEGA's part. It makes hero tmg normal attack infinite since you get back pp per hit.
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What the fuck do you even use hero talis for besides warp dashing?
>sword has best DPS
>TMG has easy damage and best PP management
>talis avoids damage easily(?)
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>>184053443
>>184053453
>>184053467
what the actual fuck that's so broken
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>>184053472
Set up as boomerang DoT then switch PA into another weapon and continue as normal.
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>>184053472
Use it for damage over time and switch back to a different weapon, or cast techs with it.
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>>184053567
Yes, now imagine a 11 HR doing it all at once on Deus due to a BO having EPPR field active lol
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>>184051657
>8 slotter
>calling others cancer
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>>184053713
Finally I can play bo as it's intended use. Hero truly living up to its name.
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>>184053453
Why would they nerf something legit, and it's not like it lasts forever.
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>>184054265
Because it undermines the "intended" purpose of the class, combos and weapon-switching. You don't see Straight Charge with infinite PP do you?
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>>184054265
Maybe they're just taking precautionary measures. Could still be abused for whatever it's worth like>>184053798 or just different heroes cycling their rings in an MPA.
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>>184054461
But it is working as intended.
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>>184054614
Not anymore according to Sega.
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>>184053453
>Sad thing is it's not even a bug, it's an intended mechanics
Source or you're full of bullshit.
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>>184049898
75% EXP is cheap as hell, so basically unlimited. You should always have it on.
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>>184054614
Not really, SEGA didn't intend for it to happen because as usual they didn't test it. The standard attack for TMG acts as I if it's a PA, but it's a normal attack, it's not intentional it's just a huge oversight.
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>>184054814
Don't forget donuts.
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>>184054881
what if eating donuts made you fat in game? would be cool
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>>184054758
How does it feel, living with a mental retardation?
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>>184054265
>>184054614
You don't see a problem with a class having 2x the PP regen of other classes while also shitting out 15k+ dps when the alternative for most other classes is left clicking, using a queen viera or running in circles with orbit?
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>>184054265
It doesn't just apply for yourself. It applies to everyone in the field radius. If you have people chaining them, it could very well last forever.
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>>184054852
It's kind of funny that Sega actually forgot about a Bo skill ring when they specifically mentioned the Br attack advance one to not work with hero.
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>>184055303
>Br attack advance one to not work with hero.
Does it not? I was actually planning on using that.
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>>184054852
How long do you think it'll take for them to fix this? A week?
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>>184055421
I have personally tried the attack advance ring. It does not work with Hero.
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>>184051665
No, they're pointless now. RIP Gavenger desu
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Why the fuck do I keep getting sent to random blocks?
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>doing cross-block matchmaking makes your drink you took in the campship wear off
Fuck you Sega.
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>>184057273
because its matching you with people on random blocks
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>>184057273
multi-block matching
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>level 79 hero doing 29k per sword swing
Really sega? Why even bother with anything else at this point?
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>>184058818
Fi and Gu are still stronger. Hero isn't the problem, it's only one of several classes that completely outclass the rest.
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>>184058952
Hero is easier to do fairly well with I feel. That's probably why people are screaming OP even when fi and gu are strong as well.
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>>184058818
HU can do that too
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>>184058818
>I forgot to get good weapon for Hr and now I'm irrelevant
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>>184059161
Not as fast as hero can, not to mention the super he's building as hes doing this.
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How do I use the camera to take photos?
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>>184059136
The problem I have with Hero is that it NEEDS to use step to avoid damage. The only other class I know that is like that is bow braver. So it's easy for me to do damage but also too easy to get hit.
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https://arks-layer.com/skillsim/skillcalc.php?12eRbCIobCIobCIobCIobCIobCIobCIobCIobCIobCIo0jdodBIbkAIkI20ib0000000doIn0000000jdoib0000000fdo0000000Io00000000ioIn00000000IbIonidA6bnHSdxdnbn00000fdoIb0000000jdB0000000dBIb0000008

This is my BrHu so far but it feels like im doing no damage. I regret not getting fury stance instead of trying to up my S-atk so i could equip more weapons
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>>184059136
>Easier to do fairly well with
It's literally the same as fighter, rotate pas. In the case of gunner, spam chain.

>>184059307
Honestly the gear is the most irrelevant thing on Hr. You're not going to get that more than once per quest.
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>>184059805
The invul on hero's step is huge compared to normal step
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>>184058818
https://youtu.be/yERDjmZpIYw
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>>184059831
You still have enough points to go for all the fury multipliers, you just need to not take defensive skills. Stop taking stat ups for the purpose of equipping weapons though.
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>>184060047
Braver but with a compound PA and tmgs
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>no class bonus for getting hero to 75
they're really fucking with us this episode
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>no Deus until Sunday
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>>184060407
I feel like it's a statement from Sega that says "you know how to level classes fast now so this isn't that great of an achievement that needs a stat bonus". I still dislike it though.
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>>184060557
I was hoping to +35 one last round of sheets but I'm going to have to settle for +32 at this point. I sure wish he ever decided to fucking drop something for me, at least help me out with a sheet or drop a unit.
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>>184060557
>deus triggers STILL not in the fucking shop
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>>184060673
They really have no idea how to get people excited for a new episode any more. If you don't like Hero there's jack shit for you to do until Buster Quests come out and honestly who gives a shit if you have Qliphad. It really doesn't help that unless you're one of the chosen few, your class fucking sucks now either through being nerfed into the ground or not receiving any meaningful buffs while the best classes just got buffed even more for some reason. Several classes a year from now will still be weaker than they were pre-ep5 patch if gear progression continues in a linear fashion. I've never played an MMO where power levels regressed this much, let alone one where it only happened for some.
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>>184060047
gg Hero
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Can you JA hero time finish?
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>>184061215
>who gives a shit about the beginning of a new episode because you already have the best gear from the previous episode
Same shit happened at the beginning of 4, where it took untl Gix weps for there to be something better than Austere. I hope you enjoy waiting fucking 9 months for any relevant content.
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>>184061476
At least bow braver existed when episode 4 launched
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>>184061648
Balance is so fucking bad right now that I'm hoping they do a mid-episode balance patch, but I doubt that's going to happen. When episode 6 comes around and they see that bow BR has sub 1% of the playerbase, they'll finally get their heads out of their asses.
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>>184062481
Katana is in a good position atm
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>>184062481
Sega's word means jack shit but they said they would be monitoring balance after launch with changes if need be. With how incredibly terrible balance is right now I would hope they notice and do a post-launch balance patch like they did in ep4 after a couple months.
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How are the dark caligula weapons? Im thinking of picking one up for a rainbow set
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>>184062823
Do you mean invade? They're terrible
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does weak attack critical only work with techs or does it work with TMGs and sword?
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>>184062904
yeah. the invade weapons.
What makes em so bad? the attack seems on par with other 13 stars and the affixes are OK
Would getting a Yoi 2 be better as far as dark coverage?

And while Im at it, what does the Earth upgrade from Zieg do? I imagine I should Max element on a weapon before converting but there doesnt seem to be a big difference
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>there are people who still think playing anything but Hero will be viable or permit them to participate in anything
>people still haven't realized that we're only seeing the tip of the Hero iceberg
A month from now every party will be 12/12 level 80 Heroes, and any semblance of skilled play will be out the window. The only thing I can figure is that by completely trashing balance like this, Sega figures they can attract and keep whales who only care about fashion, and the types of faggots who assign every autoword because THEY'RE THE PROTAGONIST.

I like Hero, it feels great, but holy shit, but after playing it, and playing with other people playing it, I don't see how you could play any other class and contribute anything meaningful from this point onward. Hero blows absolutely everything else out of the water to such a degree, and requires so much less of you to do well with it.

This really bums me out.
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>>184063183
It's complicated to explain since I take it you're new but Invade has a garbage potential and they also require a specific build just to not be completely terrible. I need help again, what weapon are you looking at now. Yoi 2 is a DB from 2016 badges, so I assume you mean the tech weapons from that series, yes? That's not much better. Here, if you want a weapon to fill out dark and your options are that barren right now I have an OG suggestion for you. Buy セイメイキカミ from the player shop. It's a 10* but the potential is 16% additional damage when casting dark techs. This should be temporary anyway so there's no harm in just using this until you can get something from a real CF like Yamato.

Earth upgrade takes old weapons (you get given the old weapons in the CF) from ep4 launch and lets you turn them into new updated weapons. They're not as good as other options but they're easy to get. Max the element before converting because then you only need to spend 20 fuses to upgrade one weapon. Otherwise you would need to upgrade every weapon you use for element grinding.
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Even after having its power doubled, Nazonde gets out dps'd by something as simple as hero left clicking with sword still. The only reason most of these tech buffs could become relevant is if they start fucking rainbow classes and making content with rotating elements.
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>>183957354
They announced on the last live stream that the sword is a 14* weapon from buster quests.
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>>184064650
Element conversion was a mistake. They should just do away with it entirely and replace it with a skill that just buffs all tech damage by 50% regardless of the weapon's element.
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>>184063464
I just want to hit a scheduled deus so I can match up my Fi with some Hero
I don't expect to be completely and utterly btfo, but if I am, well...
私和永遠に去ります。。。
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>>184064741
It makes me so damn mad. I was hoping that it would be a weapon camo that covers all 3 sword, TMGs and talis, but they lock that cool hero look behind weapons that are almost impossible to get one of, let alone all three on one account.
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>>184063183
>What makes em so bad? the attack seems on par with other 13 stars and the affixes are OK
Garbage potential, OT and insane damage variance.
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>>184063464
Fi was already braindead m9, this isn't much different, just more fluid in its weapon transitions
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>>184064741
Not even the same sword, doofus
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Do hero PAs level up?
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>>184065909
They should have leveled up through use in a true hero fashion
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can you skip magatsu gold's death animation?
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>>184066296
You can just move to the teleporter to the next area while the animation is playing and access it, which will skip it.
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I wish they could have just buffed techs directly instead of making us redo all of our technique crafts. Sure thing let me throw away my perfect charge time reduction craft to test if the new power craft is better.
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>>184063464
>made one of my three characters hero
>no longer want to play any of the others because one is force and the other is bouncer
I literally cannot go back, hero is just so fucking good.
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Whats the gift u have a chance of getting for doing Featured Quests?
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>>184068715
>>184068715
>>184068715
page 10
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>>184034769
Link guidebook I might buy 2 and give you a code dickhead
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