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MAMMOTH EDITION

Norsca First Gameplay Glance:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8jFCMB-eHU [Embed]

Norsca Roster:
https://www.totalwar.com/blog/norsca-army-roster/

Norsca Racepack CGI trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbrbDa9EBR0 [Embed]

Mini-campaigns are gone, 4 LL packs instead
https://www.totalwar.com/blog/early-adopter-post-launch/

Dark Elves Roster Reveal:
https://www.totalwar.com/blog/dark-elf-army-roster/

Total War: WARHAMMER 2 – Dark Elves In-Engine Trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zB6FaGBz0Lo [Embed]

Total War: WARHAMMER 2 - High Elves Let's Play
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-8RQCwevAk [Embed]

Total War Saga Announcement Blog
https://www.totalwar.com/blog/a-total-war-saga-announce-blog/

New Race Pack for TWWH1, New DLC for past historical game and other stuff:
https://www.totalwar.com/blog/what-the-teams-are-working-on-07-06-17/

Lizardmen In-Engine Trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3CmxjTFv_Y [Embed]

Lizardmen Roster Reveal:
https://www.totalwar.com/blog/lizardmen-army-roster/

High Elf Roster Reveal:
https://www.totalwar.com/blog/high-elf-army-roster/

Total War: WARHAMMER 2 – Announcement Cinematic Trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXxe897bW-A [Embed]

>FAQs and General Info
https://pastebin.com/gZ1T9VCN

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?2191-Total-War-WARHAMMER-Modifications

Last thread >>183837381

Screenshot sharing and campaign posting encouraged!
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it's fucking RESKINS
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Tilea when
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GUYS!
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fimir RAPE
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Araby when?
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LEAKS

ROR LEAKS
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LEAKS BOYS
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PULLING A DARREN
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>>183896335

Wasn't terribly amazed by Norsca desu. Seem like literally Mammoths: the Faction. Campaign mechanics sound fun though.
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REGIMENTS OF RENOWN CONFIRMED
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>Beastmen RoR
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>>183896502
source?
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BEASTMEN ROR LEAAAAKS
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>tfw I can't crush the skulls of the men of the south with mammoths this nanosecond
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R A W R
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>8 speed holy shit

also Regiments of Renown leaked
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COME, SIT, SHARE MY COMPREHENSION
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Where's boris?
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>>183896335
Saw some RoRs
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Screenshot of ROR?
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RoRs for beastmen nigga

Maybe even ghorgons?
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Beastmen RoR
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>RoR
>not taurox.

Who cares, RoR was a mistake.
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>>183896571
Steam page
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>>183896613

hell fuckin yea beastmen RoR
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post screengab of ROR bls
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THROGG
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>>183896605
Probably hasn't beaten the Beastmen mini campaign on that file
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Shit I miss the RoR beastmen leak, they added charlemagne too?
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Did anyone see what specific types of units got a RoR variant?
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>>183896605
Middeland is its own faction in multiplayer
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Did they add a new LL?
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>new toys for everyone is RoR

th-thanks I guess
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inb4 Morghur wins late.
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>>183896632

This famalamabam. If you don't mod them out you should commit sudoku
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>>183896692
Bestigors and a Gor variant.
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>>183896690
I missed it but I wouldn't get my hopes up. I'd like Ghorgons though.
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>>183896729

I want ROR gone, not more of them.
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>RoR
>No banner-men
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>>183896502
30th?
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>mfw more RoR for the AI
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>>183896789
you fed up with seeing Silver Bullets and Sigmar's Sons in every Empire roster ever?
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>Cygor vs Norsca
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>every single End Times chaos stack making a beeline for my capital
>dwarves starting shit again
>gobbos just broke the NAP
>Kemmler is 6 turns away getting his Chaos Tomb Blade
>there won't even be a glorious climactic final battle as I've been bankrupt and hemorrhaging 5000 dark magic per turn for the past 5 turns due to every single empire 20 stack raiding me simultaneously so all my troops and garrisons are at 10% strength
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They sure are making a big deal of this frostbite thing
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Where is my Kislev?
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>>183896881

Not me because I modded that shit out
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>>183897018
In the trash when it's belong
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>>183897065

Tell me your secrets
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>>183897031
>RoR Minotaurs

mein gott.
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>>183897031
>no Ghorgons or Charlemagne
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>>183897065
some of us still play Quick Battles without mods
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>>183897130
Those would require more effort than just a reskin
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>>183897130
They'd be below in the monsters dude. Could still be.
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>>183896502

It's the ROR
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>>183897031
>minotaur ror
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>>183896646
ME AM THROGG!! THROGG AM KING!!
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>Beastpoo Regiments of Renown
That means Wood Elf ROR
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>>183897031
outstanding, nice job anon
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>Have pirated copy of Rome 2 Emperor Edition
>Can't use mods on it
>Game crashes whenever I use the script file to force the mod on
Shame, Divide et Impera looked awesome
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>>183896945

She is a good girl that knows her history and lore, and hates Radious.
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Wow he killed like 5 dudes with that spell
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>>183897014
>gobbos just broke the NAP
>trusting gobbos to keep their word
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>>183896646

>55 leadership

pfffft
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>>183897456
BANG
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>>183897456
dawi are resistan to magic
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>>183897456
No overcast against dwarfs. Pit of Shades is actually pretty decent. At least in normal large unit size mp battles.
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Remember how people said the dwarf AI was a complete fuck up during one of the first gameplay videos of Chaos vs Dwarfs being narrated by Darren?

The AI is STILL completely unable of using artillery and ranged, they still shuffle their units for no fucking reason and lose their chance to fire
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>>183897271
You can rectify that very easily you jew
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>>183897246
Pasta to follow
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So DLC factions are going to get RoR but what about base game factions. Vampire content?
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>updating old factions is just adding RoR AKA reskinned units with better stats
>at most giving some of the legendary lords better skill trees
>no new subfaction for empire
>no new types of maps for campaign
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>>183897585
They should look into hiring some of the guys that made the AI for the Stalker games. That shit was crazy.
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>>183897585
are Napoleon and FOTS the only games where the ai could somewhat use artillery?
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>>183897813
B-but Anon, I don't have the shekels!
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>>183897887
>no new types of maps for campaign


River/Bridge battles in TWW2
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I would not say no to some Chaos RoR units
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>>183897881
Abhorash
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Is it true that bonus vs. X gives a boost to both melee attack & weapon damage?
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Norsca had RoR on the unit screen too
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>>183897941
>Napoleon

The AI would often shoot into a hill infront of them for the whole battle.

FOTS did ok though.
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>>183897985

Coming for TWW by way of mods at some point, which is hilarious
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>>183897031
>ungors with shields ror
>gors with shields ror
>minotaurs with shields ror

I'm going to be disappointed with these, right? Why the fucking shields?
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Empire is a joke at this point
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That mammoth sure likes Karl a lot.
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Well, Norsca looks like cancer to fight against.
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>>183898125
>which is hilarious

And good. Mods save Total War games. Wish Attila had some good mods though.
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>>183898083
I don't remember that from Nappy but admittedly it's been years since I played it so I'm probably wrong.

>>183898212
Campaign wise, yes they'll be crushed
Battle wise, not they´'re still top tier with all the different ways they can be played
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>>183898251
The Norsca army has much more value than all of the AI ones though.
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So Norsca:

Shitty infantry, okay monsters, good heroes, FUCKING MAMMOTHS
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>>183898210

because with all the buffs for minotaurs the shielded one is quiet excellent

still wouldn't take it over the other two
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>>183898251
>>183898215
How much does a mammoth unit cost?
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SKINWORMS CONFIRMED
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>>183896476
Dogs of War will be in TWW2

http://warhammerfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Dogs_of_War

Pirazzo's Lost Legion was already shown by CA to be a minor faction and El Cadavo is notorious for his incursions into Lizardmen territory

Cap that off by putting Borgia the Besieger or Lucrezzia Belladonna in charge of Tilea and it'll be all good (or do the cool thing and completely reorganize the Southern provinces so Tilea and Estalia are divided)
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>>183898251
He kept making pretty poor matchups though, not really a good comparison.
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>>183898315
>yes they'll be crushed

Not much will change with the Norsca dlc if Norsca starts out balkanized. Empire might even get better off.
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>>183898368
the one he was using cost 2000.
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>>183898251
The guy had 3 fuckings mammoths and 1 chaos dragon, he could rush 3 armys ezzy with that.
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>>183898125

Should probably back up my post with some evidence.

>>183898271

My only real issue with Attila is how the combat looks. Shogun 2s and Warhammers don't look perfect by any means but they're a hell of a lot more interesting to look at than Attilas.
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>tfw no Throgg gameplay
>tfw no Grace gf
>tfw no Dogbert bf
>tfw Multiplayer is kill after Norsca gets added
>tfw Empire is now irredeemably shit
May as well end it here
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>>183898408
hawt
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>>183897881
The Vampire content will be Kemmler getting the skill tree for Krell since that hasn't been released yet.

Hopefully the Greenskin and Dwarf and Empire content is the addition of Azhag to the Red Eyes near Kislev, Ungrim to Karak Kadrin and Boris to Middenland as playable lords at last.
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It is now July, a chill wind blows in Naggaroth but the sea of malice is beginning to thaw. From Ghrond, a messenger comes bearing word of an ancient prophecy involving the lands of north Lustria. The Hag Queens offer many sacrifices to Khaine, while their underlings train relentlessy. Meanwhile the Druchii of Clar Karond whip their slaves ceaselessly in preparation for the Witch-Kings coming campaign.
A great fleet is being assembled and the armies of the Druchii arm themselves for total war, domination by a best elf soon!
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>Minotaur RoR
Brace yourselves.
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>>183897478
Its a troll what do you expect. Its good enough trolls under him don't go absolutely droolingly stupid and eat everyone else from their own army.
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If I buy whorehammer 2 from G2a do I get norsca?
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why
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>Trying very hard to establish the tree reich
>turn 85, haven't got the big tree to L3, can't confedarate
>No one wants to be friends with us
>No amber, no money
>Stuck in a very unpleasant rut
>Fuck it, genocide the rest of the forest in 3 turns.
>Elves removed totally, forest now mine.

I wish I'd done that ages ago.
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>>183897130
Delves got the Hydra which has five heads. The Ghorgon and the Hydra being modeled and added to the game? That would be far too many charlemagnes.
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>>183898864
only if you suck enough dicks you whore
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>>183898794
>>183897881
Kemmler skill tree redo was supposed to go live with Krell, so VC is probably getting something else new.
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>>183898864
no
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>>183898794
I'm hoping they will rework the vanilla factions' skill trees a bit. Some of those skills are just a complete joke and nobody would ever get them, particularly in the blue trees.
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>>183898628
>tfw Multiplayer is kill after Norsca gets added
And nothing of value was lost
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>>183898928
>Kemmler skill tree redo was supposed to go live with Krell
Was it? I thought the fuckup was claiming it was supposed to while not being true until the update for all factions.
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>>183898884
yeah that's the way to go, I also sat on the forest for 40+ turns only to figure out what the fuck I am doing besides farming XP from raiding and killing rebels in my own province
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>>183898928
>was supposed to
>but didn't

Red Duke and Mousillon confirmed
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What RoR will Bretonnia get?
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>>183898473
They'll just be empire units and you know it
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>>183899239

Men at Arms (Maces)
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>>183899239

Jaques Peasant Mob (flying artillery)
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>>183899239
Grail Knights (female)
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>>183898628
Multiplayer is already kill from shit implementation.
>no custom colors like DoW
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>>183899239
I forget what they're called but Robin Hood's merry men
I'm rather hoping for a riff on Chaucer's knight as well.
Jesters
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>>183899346
They'd never! Bretons are too chivalrous.
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>>183897998
As nice as this would be, I would much rather have their faction/campaign mechanics overhauled.
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>>183899239
Men at Arms (female)
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Life or shadow lore for my elite empire army?
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>>183899464
Also this. CA add thm Marks of Chaos.
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>>183899464
If they rehaul Chaos warriors, it won't be until expansion 2.

>>183899515
Life.
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>>183898797
It is now July, a musty air blows through the Reikwald but the Warherds have been driven away. From the mighty Ulricsberg, the Ar-Ulric bears a prophecy from the white wold for the Graf: it is time for the final battle with Chaos. The Midden Marshals scour the land for cultists, while the Knights of the White Wolf slaughter mutants and beastmen mercilessly. Meanwhile the Graf seeks out his arch-nemesis, the one eye, in hopes that their long conflict might at last come to a close. A great army of Huntsmen and Teutogen Guard is being assembled to wipe out the forces of the ruinous powers once and for all. Middenland soon!
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>>183899429
>canonically, 10% of teh most virtuous knights turn out to be women
Yeah, I bet they kept their 'vitue' intact becasue their dirty French tongues were too talented.
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>>183899494
Women at Arms (Monstrous Infantry)
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>>183899239
Peasants (Crossbows)
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>>183899612
dlet
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>>183899342
"i post warhammer stuff when i feel like it" lol my mistake
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Playing as the vampire counts, which one is easier if you want all the legendary lords? I know you have to confed the other, but which one to start as?
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>>183899698
make me
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>>183899775
s-she's fast! Watch out!
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>>183899464
This
Fucking Kislev, please CA.
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Can some1 please TLDR how to play Wood Elves for me? I've only ever played as the Empire, and TWW is my first TW game ever. I've completed an Empire normal and hard campaign before.
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>>183899742
it should be either Kemmler or Ghorst that are hardest to get.
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>>183899720
maybe some other time
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>>183899858
play durthu
go to Norsca
kill Norsca
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>>183899720
And how I can found that comment?
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>>183899239
Battle Pilgrims with Blasting Charges
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>>183898930

Well I don't feel like paying 60 bucks for an expansion
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>>183900057
That's fine, poorfags don't get to have nice things.
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>>183897478
It's his armor tough, he have 70 leadership
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>>183899858

>lots of archers but do get some Eternal Guard for the enemy to maul
>Wardancers with spears are good, the regular ones aren't that great
>Tree Kin are gud. Eagles are shit
>WILD RIDERS
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>>183899239
Grail Knights (Halberds) (Blasting Charges)
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>>183899815
Yeah, I can see her quick hands. Probably just as good with them as she is with her tongue.
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>>183900145
This is all good advice.

The Wildwood rangers or whatever they're called are also excellent though imo.
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>>183899995
is not a comment, its a page lol
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>vampire counts break their nonaggression pact
>literally have an army sitting right next to one of my settlements for like three turns; only thing stopped them is the army inside the settlement (I did chase the army off by assassinating the leader)
>their main army is within one turn's marching distance of a settlement capital of mine
>two of my armies, including my main one, are completely stuck on account of the vampire counts waiting for me to leave
>enough of this
>take their settlement
>diplomacy status lowered to untrustworthy; says that I broke a treaty

Diplomacy in this game. There's absolutely nothing about that scenario that should make any friendly faction think that maybe the military access or the peace treaty is just a scheme to take their shit unopposed. The game should take into account factors like trespassing and who actually broke the treaty.
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It seems like as Wood Elves, I can choose whether to ally myself with "Order" or with "Chaos". In the tech tree, the path down has diplomatic relations with Undead, while the path above has diplomatic relations with Empire, Bretonnia, Tilea, Estalia, Border Princes and Norscan tribes, aswell as Dwarfs and Greenskins (?) for some reason.
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>>183900249
go away faggot
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>>183900145
>>183900228
Thanks, but how about how to play them in general? I mean. It seems to me like this faction is simply all about getting as much Amber as possible, to upgrade the Oak of the Ages as much as possible? Is that it? And Amber is gained by taking over other factions lands or establishing military alliances/vassal status with them? So basically, farm as much relationship with other factions as possible to get military alliance OR focus on military and take over their settlements?
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>The Fimir Balefiend has a mace tail
FUCKING DROPPED
Only the Fimir Warriors have mace tails, the spellcasters have smooth ones.
0/10 Very disappointed.
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>>183900574
It's far less pronounced than the ones on the warriors and reminds me of dragonfuit.
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>>183900438
Conquer Varg and Skaeling and colonise their lands. No one will miss them. Get diplomacy technology and become friends with all the good guy factions. Confederate other wood elves at Oak of Ages rank 3. Face-roll chaos by ambushing with armies of waywatchers and wardancers. Ezpz.
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>>183900252

Nevermind, it looks like I actually did have a nonagression pact. I could have sworn that they broke it.

Still, obvious trespassing.
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>>183900057
>has as much content as the original game
>still calling it just an expansion

Come on now, you weenie...
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>>183900868

It's literally an expansion, it's the same game with new units.
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So am I getting this right? Estalia is not! Spain and Tilea is not! Italy/Rome?
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>>183900912
Really? It takes place in the old world?
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>>183900632
Yeah, I'm just kinda irked.
The shape of their tails is supposed to denote caste - The low caste have smooth tails and no horns, the warriors have mace tails, the nobles have spiked or bladed tails and the spellcasters have smooth tails and horns.
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>>183901025

Because expansions never added new maps, nope totally never happened.
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So, mammoth is the strongest unit now?
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>>183901089
Just go back to jerking off to the history games history fag. Most people have already pre ordered that so called expansion.
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>>183901089
How many non mmo expansions add an entire new map to the world with new factions and different gameplay goals?
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>>183899281
Right, until they sell us the Dogs of War DLC for ten dollars.
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>>183901171

Most people are idiots

>>183901184

...Most of them? I'm literally playing night of the raven right now
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>>183900912
So is Attila an expansion? Or Rome 2?
They all use the same engine with a new map you dip.
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>>183901239
That expansion didn't add in 4 new factions or major gameplay elements like the vortex.

CASE DISMISSED
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>>183901274

Attilla provided a wealth of new mechanics and totally different gameplay, Warhammer 2 provides nothing, it's the same shallow experience Warhammer 1 is.

Can't wait for ratpaths.
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>>183896476
>>183896536
Tomb Kings, Araby and Dogs of War will be dlc for the second game. I'm certain of it.
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>>183901367
>Historyfag detected.
Yeah get of here. You're kind aint welcome.
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>>183901027
No one cares about ugly rape monsters.
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>>183901027

Aren't these basically Kappa monsters from Japanese folklore

Is there anything original in Warhammer?
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What does Slaanesh look like?
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Why is TW2 so DAMN expensive and why Box version is cheaper than digital. I want Norsca but this price. It's more expensive than TW:W1. I could buy from some G2A but SEGA does not support them and I would not recive Norsca bonus.
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>>183901367

*sigh* I am loathe to see CA continue to waste time on their childish 'fantasys' crap game's. When will we ever see serious subjects like the Ottomans got covered? HIstory is you're butter and bread CA dont' forgot where your fans comed from. Dragons and mosters? Grew up.
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>>183901367
>Warhammer 2 provides nothing


We just don't know yet.
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>>183901732
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fomorians

They're more likely based on that
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>>183901732
How the hell do you get kappa from that?

They're very, very loosely based on the Fomorians of Celtic mythos, who took any number of forms. The physical designs for Fimir are completely original.
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>>183901805

I don't understand how ironic shitposting is a counterargument, Warhammer 2 IS shallow and provides no innovation to the series.

Hell, some of their lauded new features are old shit they removed, like cinematics and river battles, don't worry guys Warhammer 3 will have night battles and weather!
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New RoRs when?
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>>183901904

Green monster with a shell and beak

>>183901840

Pretty sure they already talked about the "new" mechanics and the fact they showed us 200 videos of fucking dinosaurs.
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>>183901945

It is time to nut it or shut up CA. These are your last chance, the history community will no longer abode by your insistence on making phony fantasy ''GAMES''.
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>>183902080
They still keep talking about new race features(like that dark elf name thing or whatever).
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>>183901945
>Monsters, Flying Units, Magic, Unique races, Unique campaign mechanics
You're just salty you're stupid turk game isn't coming.
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>>183902020
Confirmed in stream this morning on accident, Beastmen & Norsca RoR were in his test version. Likely we'll have RoR for all factions when Norsca drops.
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>>183900673
Alright thanks.
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>more ror spam for every faction in campaign
>more ror units ruining the variety of armies in qb by giving every faction insta-pick must-have units

RoR were a mistake
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>>183896605

Probably no mini campaingn won in the build
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>>183901765

Anything you want it to.

Slaanesh is often portrayed as a woman but that's not true, he/she/it appears in whatever form you would find most appealing, sexually or otherwise.

If you're fetish is toasters they'd show up as a toaster.
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>>183902258

Are you guys hype for the new food and disease mechanics? Only for 60 bucks!
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>>183902020
Yes.
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>Assault unwalled vampire town near Kislev
>Custom maps in campaign mod
>It's a special town map
>It has fucking towers
>Why
>They shoot the maximum level tower ammo for the vampires, those things that explode, and they take like 7-10 of my troops with every shot
>WHY
>There's like 12 of them, literally no blind spots to the town
>WHY.jpg
>Can't target them with artillery
>WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
>And their capture zones are in tight streets flooded with zombies and skeletons
>Close game, load again, autoresolve

WHO

THE FUCK

WAS THE GENIUS THAT THOUGH THIS MAP BELONGED IN THE CAMPAIGN
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>>183902193
I love their PR department. These guys can shitpost without saying anything. Love love love it. CA best company ever. Fantasy and and historical fiction living in harmony.
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>>183902651
At least they removed the old middenland fan custom map

You should probably go complain about that particular map on their page.
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>>183902693
They have like 32 "community managers" and "content creators". Quite a large Social Media presence. I think it's Darren, Grace, Joey, Craig, Tom, Leo, Henry, Dogbert, Michael, etc. I forget the rest.
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>>183902454

See Anon, I agree with you that 2 is an expansion and that a lot of the shit CA is touting is old stuff but this post would have worked better if you used mechanics and features someone actually liked
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>>183902651
nah man that map is perfectly fair for the vampire count defender since vampire counts don't get archers.

:^)

but yeah most modded maps give huge benefits to the defender since even in the best cases modders make hills massive and steep and make choke points that specifically benefit the defender.

i don't mind it, but a lot of times it cant get ridiculous.
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>>183901904
I always thought the hunched back for the spellcasters and the toothy beaks were fairly Skeksis-like.

Which I can't complain about, since I love the Skeksis designs.
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>>183902975

These shouldn't even be counted as mechanics, this shit is the basis of managing an empire.

For fuck sake stronghold had this shit, a game from almost 2 decades ago.
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>>183903091
Yeah, after I was reminded of the Dark Crystal a few months ago, I thought the same. Good thing that the Fimir don't have some weird old good halves.
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>>183896502
When is CA's birthday
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>>183903234
18th of august
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>even more RoR

Oh boy I can't wait to fight a billion fucking RoR in all of my campaigns as every fucking faction in the game now spams them out of the ass! I also can't wait for competitive mpfags to bring the same 2-3 units every battle for every faction!
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>>183903234
>>183903415
But the FLC is stated to come with the Norsca patch, which is the 10th. Early birthday present, I reckon.
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>>183898864
You could buy it from bundle stars or other sega approved re sellers or pirate the DLC
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tbqh I cannot wait for the filthly romans to come north to find all the tribes united against them
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>>183901367
>Can't wait for ratpaths
I'll hold you to this
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>>183903804

You can pirate the DLC with a legit copy?
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Ready for 19 mammoth memestacks?
>>
WHAT
WHAT'S GOING ON
DID I MISS THE STUFF?
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>>183901782
Why not buy from other key resellers?
>>
>>183903987
BEYOND
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>>183897031
>Bestigor RoR have a sword icon instead of an axe
Hmm.
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Hello does rtw work on windows 10? I did do a google search but there was a lot of bullshit and i trust /twg/. Thank you
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>>183904007
Anon
you missed all of the stuff
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>>183903987
Artillery at the ready boyo
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>>183904259
Playing videogames was a mistake. ;_;
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>>183904007
tl;dr
> Fimir Dirach is a good fighter
> Berserkers have sick tats
> Skinwolves are anti-large and 75 speed
> Frostbite units have a ridiculous slow debuff
> Mammoths have over 400 AP damage
> Throgg is horrifying
> Wulfrik is horrifying
> RoR for both Norsca and Beastmen leaked
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>>183903987
I'll make an an half-slayer, half-trollhamer torpedo Irondrake army specifically for that purpose.
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Lorewise, who would win in a 1v1. Louen or Franz. Memes aside.
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>>183904428

Louen
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>>183904428
Franz himself is the biggest meme in the setting. He wins.
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>>183904428
Louen is a grail knight so he has decades of experience on Karl and ze blessing of ze lady besides
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The norscans look so silly with those fucking plates strapped on their naked bodies, if boss of this gym saw them there would be a scuffle.

I wish they look like actual barbarians with pelts and shit, don't they feel cold?
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>>183904076
Because if I buy from "not supported" list of shops I will not recive pre-order bonus.
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>>183904428
bog standard franz, then louen wins cause he is technically a grail knight with supernatural powers and shit

end times "WE WUZ UNBEROGENZ N SHEEEEEET" Franz who is actually sigmar is a different story
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>>183904749

But Karl also has the Memehammer that gives ultimate plot armor.
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>>183904410
> RoR for both Norsca and Beastmen leaked
I'm seriously expecting AT LEAST WoC RoR's but probably WE ones too
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>>183904007
You can re watch stream https://www twitch tv/videos/162115517
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>>183904428
Grail Knights like Louen are basically like Living Saints in 40k. Franz loses.
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>>183904843
OR DOES HE?
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>>183904779
Fuck you
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>>183905174
nah fuck you buddy
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>>183897271
anon do you use a mod manager and i think if you download the mods from steamworkshopdownloader you must edit the pack file with a hex editor and delete from the beginning to P
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>>183904843
But what if they had to arm wrestle?!?!?
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>>183897881
There are Knights Panther in game files so actual new units are my guess
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>>183904946
They said "new toys for each faction" so I do expect that not only Norsca and Beastmen, but also Bretonnia, Knife ears and WoC get their regiments. The more exciting questions are what the base factions will get and whether WoC will get their mechanics overhauled into something better
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What Wood Elf units are absolutely never worth their upkeep?
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Beastmen and potentially Chaos FreeLC RoR on August 18, 2017. On the Livestream it looked like we got RoR for Gors (Shields), Ungor Spearmen (Shields), Minotaurs, and Centigors (Shields). No confirmation of Jabberslythe or Ghorgons.
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The march that didn't happen
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>>183899376
>army painter
Dis nigga knows.

I want avatar campaign custom faction
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LITERALLY
FUCKING
RESKINS
(and CA shills WILL buy it separately)
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>>183904242
I could use some help please thank you
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>>183905561
I tried to use a mod manager and after some trouble of getting it to recognize Rome 2, the game simply crashed after opening it. And I got the mod files from the modder's thread on the TW forums
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>>183906080

I got it free with TWW2 so :)
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>>183905965
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>>183901367
>being able to explore ruins for treasure and bonuses

How is this not a new feature?

Also

>equal amount of content as the first game
>should be an expansion

Why?
>>
>LITERALLY
>FUCKING
>RESKINS
>(and CA shills WILL buy it separately)
Every single previous Total War faction was a reskin of the same 6 units. At least now it's a reskin of the same 45 units. And Norsca is free if you pre-order TW:WH2
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>>183906137
make sure you have the latest version in top right it should be 16155.736913 i had that problem because the emperor edition had a couple of patches after it came out
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>>183906154

TWW2 should be an expansion costing $20

You paid $20 for a faction DLC
>>
Is it possible to become a vassal in Shogun 2? After barely defeating an invading Oda army I suddenly got war declared on me by Saika and now it really doesn't look like I'll be able to halt them, so pretty much my only hope is becoming their vassal, but the option isn't there in diplomacy.
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>>183906328

It's 4 races and a whole new map, this is exactly what we got when we got TWW
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>>183906080

The CA shills preordered the game the moment it was put on the Steam store my friend.

I mean, I know that you're /v/ermin and a frogposter and probably a third-worlder too so keeping your thoughts coherent is probably though tough, but at least TRY to think before posting
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>>183906295

The """"""""""Wyrm""""""""""" being a fucking Chaos dragon and a very specific one at that CA has for some reason decided to use as model for ALL chaos dragons made me geniunely mad.

It's not like this is a free update faction so yeah whatever, feel free to reskin/recoulor, they are SELLING this shit separately, fuck them, I'm not defending them.
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>>183906380

Yeah so what DLC factions will there be for TWW2 ?
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>>183906295
>new faction with new lords, new units and new goals
>"these units are reskins of those units so it should be free"

Do you ever get tired of being retarded?
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>>183906445
Tomb Keks as a major one like the WElfs, possible Vampire Coast faction DLC.
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>>183906501

Ancient empires when

It's a sad state of affairs when I'm looking forward to a mod more than the next "title" in the series.
>>
Does the Tricker's Shard item (-20% Damage Reduction) make everything around take more damage, or does it just negate already existing damage reduction in the shape of Wards and Physical Resistance?
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>>183906445
Tomb Kings, Araby, Dogs of War

>>183906385
I only bought it a month after they announced it. I considered getting the Lizard special edition but it didn't seem as cool as the dorf edition.
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>>183906464
Did you not read what I said or pay attention to the context of the thread, you negro? I greentexted obvious b8 so as to not give the poster free (you)'s.
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>>183906328
Well considering their current dlc pricing it should be atleast $40 anyway for 4 races.
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>>183906637
i've been completing the campaings of rome 2 but i wanna start playing attila so bad
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>>183906080
Remodel =/= Reskin

;^)
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>>183906360
Sounds like game over

>>183906501
>Carthaginese
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>>183899612
More like because the dirty French "tongues" were too short.
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A Karak was being bullied by Manlet the Bald. So I sent a throng to right some grudges.

1/?
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>>183906873
man i really screwed up that one didn't i
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>>183906992
Had an excellent starting position so I took the hill and set up the slaughter.

2/?
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>>183906436
Ice Wyrms are descendants of chaos dragons anyway.
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>>183907184
Manlet died like a grobbi. So I thought Vampire Cunts are piss easy time to sack & raze the shit out of them. And so we went to war...

3/?
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>>183906992
Half of it is zombies , not even worth Manual fighting.
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>>183906992
>Vampire Manlet not so tough after getting raped
>>
>>183906992
Why even dump what's gonna be such an obviously one-sided battle? Zombies aren't a threat to anything.
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>>183905827
>>183906170
>>183906501
>>183906712
>not posting fotosketched screen shots of TW:WH but titled as an unrelated historical battle.
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>>183907363
>>183907407
And this is where things started going wrong
>Kemmler with half a stack of renowned troops
>city garrison of pic related

>>183907503
Because it's a set up for the slaughter that I blundered in AFTER this battle. Overconfidence is a slow and insidious killer.png

4/?
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>Wood elves raid my shit build up grudges
>Attack, suffer thousands of dwarf casualties, but settle the grudges
>Raze their tree and the majority of their towns, but wait, it's Vlad, he's burning down my holds to the east
>Peace out, get an assload of gold and a non aggression pact
>Figure they can't recover from that quickly.
>10 turns later
>Orion has ended his non aggression pact with you!
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>>183907614
Took a hill but not a corner. Easily slaughtered Kemmler. And I thought the day was won.

Aren't vampire armies supposed to crumble after the Lord is dead? Neither Kemmler's army nor the reinforcing garrison seemed to even notice.

This is my very first Total Warhammer campaign, btw.

5/?
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>>183907895
So I was still swamped when the elite shock cavalry charged me in the rear. I did manage to rush in some melee to absorb the first charge but they kept cycle charging.
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>>183907793
>not wiping out vampires before wood elves

Anon no.
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Is there any mod that adds recruitment time to ROR. It's retarded that the AI just raises half an army in one turn
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>>183908203
I was playing Belegar, I was beelining for Karak 8 Peaks.
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>>183908173
So my question to /vg/ is HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU SUPPOSED TO BREAK THE UNDEAD?! They don't tire, don't route. I don't think they even noticed their lord dying. Does attacking them in the rear even do something?
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>>183908374
Once the lord is dead just run away from them unit they crumble.
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>>183908374
They take morale penalties from being charged and attacked in the rear, same as anything else. You just have to get their morale down low enough for them to crumble. Not always so easy when you're fighting grave guards and such.
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>>183908374
From that battle it seems to me that Thunderers are killing machines. If I didn't let them get tied down they would have probably slaughtered every enemy. But is friendly fire still a thing in Total Warhammer? I don't notice either Thunderers or Quarellers ever doing damage to my own troops.


>>183908527
So it's a question of time? Kill the lord and leg it?
Also
>Dawi
>outrunning anything
That's a grudging.


8/8
>>
http://warhammerfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Araby

>that Arabyan roster
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>>183908703


Also, I noticed that I can't take screenshots with the Steam overlay during any loading screen. Surely this isn't normal? I press F12 and nothing happens but obviously in all other case I have no problems taking screenshots.
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>>183908929

More like Ara-PEE
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>>183897478
>ding dong! retard here!
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Will I be able to take a dorf faction come W2 and make a campaign about removing thaggoraki that isn't some migration bullshit, either in the New World or in the combined map?
>>
>>183907895
>>183908173
>>183908374
I know it's the popular meme to hate SFO, but Vlad Von Carstein with SFO on is fucking terrifying. He literally sprints across the map in 2 seconds and kills half your infantry line with two hits, and then when you try to pick him off with ranged units he shrugs off the damage with his massive regen and unlimited regen cap. Plus, h can kill almost any Lord 1v1 with his sword and ring which the AI gets almost instantaneously. Thn, once you finally do kill his army "THE DEAD RISE AGAIN" and he scurries back to Sylvania to get a fresh stack of Elite Units and RoR. SFO Vampire Counts are fucking annoying.
>>
>>183908993

>Surely this isn't normal?

It is, actually.

You have to mash the F12 button, it'll only capture the image right as loading ends so you have to be quick before it fades to black.
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>>183909017

We don't know
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>>183909017
Never seen that helmet. Got a front view?
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>>183909098
>just moved my Warhammer install to a SSD for lighting fast loading
Fuck. At least now I know that it isn't something wrong on my end. But this is definitely going into the book.
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>>183906646
I believe it removes ward saves, so it is useful when fighting other faction's lls as those usually have legendary items that grant ward saves
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>>183909274
TAKE BACK EVERY GRUDGE
>>
Does Bretonnia have no way to block an army? Fuck, these Marienburg pussies keep running away.
>>
So for the WElves achievement
>Win 10 ambush battles
do I have to manually fight them?
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>No Norsca shieldmaidens
>>
Do you think CA made any changes to the RoR system before implementing it to more factions? Or do you think we are in for more same-unit-spam from the ai/in mp?
>>
>>183903984
Yes you can with creamapi. But why do you want norsca? I don't think it'll address any of your issues with warhammer 1.
>>
>>183909246
I don't have it, sorry. The helm is in the game files and can be cheated in, but I never cared enough to do it.
>>
>>183904792
Other key resellers have it at a discounted. You don't need g2a
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>>183909813
>Norsca
>Chaos
When will this meme end?
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>>183908703
>But is friendly fire still a thing in Total Warhammer?
Still wondering.
>>
>>183906328
>TWW2 should be an expansion costing $20
I'll judge it once it comes out
>>
>>183910010
When will the "pretending 30 year old lore is still canon" meme end?
>>
>>183910034
Friendly fire is still a thing yes. You'll notice it less with Quarrellers over Thunderers though, as Quarrellers can arc their fire over your frontline, Thunderers shoot straight through.
>>
just started a bretonnia campaign for the first time, what should my first order of business be? as far as I've seen I can't deal with both middenland and orcs in the mountain, plus I've got the -20 public order from greenskin incursions

should I spread south via confederations?
>>
>>183910034

Yes, if your shots hit your own guys it'll still do damage.

If a unit believes it can't shoot without hitting your own guys it won't shoot though, it'll become obstructed and the firing icon will turn orange to indicate that it can't get a clear shot.
>>
>>183910174
You gonna use end times for reference? Yeah, didnt think so
>>
>>183906637
>"title"
What's wrong my boi
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>>183906992
>>183907184
>>183907363

>WOW GUYS HEY LOOK I TOOK MY DWARF DOOMSTACK TO KILL A WEAK VAMPIRE WITH ZOMBIES COMPRISING HALF HIS ARMY

>ISN'T IT COOL? PLEASE GIVE ME PRAISE
>>
>>183910221
>>183910224
Thanks for the info. So far I was careful to position them on hills above my meatshields but I didn't notice any friendly fire even when firing into a melee mob fight so I was wondering.
>>
>>183910384
Every fucking time holy shit. Why is it always the dwarf players?
>>
>>183910384
Fuck off faggot campaignposting is always appreciated.
>>
>>183910010

They are Chaos, even knowingly or indirectly. Retconned lore doesn't change that or make you less of a retard.
>>
>>183910384
>>183910481

Keep reading. It was just background info for what came later.
>>
>>183910384
Fuck off, cunt. I don't see you posting screenshots or contributing meaningfully to the Total War general thread.
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>>183909781
Pretty sure you don't.
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All I wanted to do was try out DeI.
Every part is stuck like this, I can download/install other mods just fine.
I've tried validating the cache, unsubbing and resubbing, restarting the launcher and restarting steam.
WTF is this shit? How do I fix it?
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how is your campaign going? went back to Attila to play age of vikings and its pretty fun
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>>183910384
>Vampire cunts butthurt
>>
>>183910010
It was relevant only in 1995, in 8th edition they are full blown Chaos worshipers who live only for murder and destruction.
>>
>>183910384

Mannfred go home, you're too short to post here. How are you even reaching the keyboard?
>>
>>183910637

You can't. You need to unsubscribe and download the manual install versions from twcenter.

Trust me I spent 2 fucking days trying to fix that shit
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>>183910010
I agree that Norsca is actually more subtle than just chaos, but I've got to be honest, that list is little better than fanfic. It has them just straight up worshipping Odin and Thor for starters.
>>
>>183910384
fuck off Mannlet
>>
In the stream the guy had his tooltips sticking on the left of the screen when he hovered over enemy units. How did he do that? nothing shows when I do it.
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>>183910638
Vandal agents are fucking up my armies and a hero managed to wound Belisarius, taking him off the army. They only have one town left in Africa and their last army is surrounded by two Byzantine legions
>>
f you stop the stream at 1:13:15 (Good reflexes or luck requiered) you can see the ROR Gor Herds Stats.
I would do a Screenshot for it but I'm too stupid for that, so here are the Stats (Spoilers).
Black-Horn's Ravagers (Gor Herd - Shields) Axe Infantry
Shielded Vanguard Deployment Stalk
120 Units
7920 HP
35 Armour Bronze Shield
70 Leadership
37 Speed
34 Melee Attack
43 Melee Defence
28 Weapon Strenght
26 Charge Bonus
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>>183910638

Doing an Angrund campaign, with Orcs heavily boosted by mods. It's fun and a challenge, not the cakewalk vanilla Dwarfs are.
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>>183910786
>>183911056

>dwarf super manlets calling anyone short
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>>183909781
I think you do. The real issue however is that unless they finally fixed it yeah right is you have to do it in one sitting without quitting the game. Easy on Beastmen because every other fight for them is an ambush, Wood Elves it's a damned hassle.
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>>183911174
seems to be a better shielded gor herd unit w/ access to vanguard and stalk
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>>183910932

Chaos are evil warmongers who are fully aware of the dark powers they're serving and what it means for the world
Norscans are tribal superstitious savages who think Daemons are benevolent deities and Chaos is magic, but they're still slaves of the dark powers.
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>>183910860
cheers trying it out now
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Holy shit Wood Elves are pretty fun to fight as.

Is stationing my archers in forests -that- important, or is it okay if for the sake of better view of the enemy/formation purposes if they don't all necessarily stand in forests, or does the accuracy bonus from standing in forests just make them so much better that they should at all times be prioritized to be stationed in forests?
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>>183910497
>>183910548
>>183910717
>>183910786
>>183911056
Fuck off people, he's right, one thing is campaign posting and another thing is Dwarf player #359 explaining in high detail how his longbeards managed to not die to a mountain of zombies coming from one direction. Shit gets old as fuck really quickly, it's literally babby's first defense battle.
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>>183909846
you need the actual DLC files though, and I don't know where you're going to get that
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>>183906295
>can't even reply to a post properly
Hi Grace!
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>>183911586

there is no such thing as Dwarf player #359
campaign posting is and has always been the essence of /twg/, in any capacity, and if you think otherwise you're a fucking faggot who should fuck off
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>>183911586
How short is your attention span? Is it BEYOND YOUR COMPREHENSION that that battle was merely Act 1 of a 3 part tragedy?
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>>183911551

It's not super important as they're by default very accurate, and you'll miss more shots than you'll gain with trees in the way.

Always put Wildwood rangers in the forest if you can, though.
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>>183911586

regular person
>see guy posting dwarf screenshots
>scroll past because it's not very interesting

you
>see guy posting dwarf screenshots
>shit your pants and cry
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>>183911586
I'm pretty sure he said 2 or 3 times already that this battle was the prelude for the one he lost right after
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>>183911804
I'm all for campaign posting, fuck I've campaign posted too, but I try to post at least minimally interesting shit. If this isn't "dwarf player posting his awesome battle against zombies with 9 casualties" number 359, then it's because it's probably number 400 or more. There's so many of these thinking it's some kind of special deal it's legit starting to piss me off.

>>183911812
How about you actually start by posting what you actually want to post instead of first going through the most unineteresting shit in the wordl?
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>>183911551
if you have them in forests at all you want them standing on the edge of the treeline firing out into the open ground - otherwise their arrows will hit trees
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>>183912069
>he's still going
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>>183912153
I'm not even the first guy, I'm just agreeing with him instead of you retards. Fuck off already.
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>>183911452
Different tribes worship different gods. Some are chaotic, like Tchar (Tzeentch) and Arkhar (Khorne). Some are not, like Ulric and Ursash. Some are debatable like Mermedus/Stromfels.

They run the gamut, basically.
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>>183912107
That leadership and melee defence is nice.
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>>183911948
>>183912115
Okay I see, makes sense, thank you. In other words, when possible to station some archer units on the edge of a treeline, do so, otherwise have them out in the open so the arrows don't hit the trees.
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>>183911105

Press i
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>>183906080
Hey the fimirs,mammoths and throgg are not reskin
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>>183912069

let me guess, you came after TWWH launched? because I swear every major release sees a wave of you faggots that complain about the same thing

get over yourself, the shit you post is not that interesting either
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>>183912107
the only advantage they have over regular rank 9 shielded gor herd is more armor/charge bonus + the stalk/vanguard. Knowing CA they will probably cost less than a regular unit w/ xp though
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>>183912569
I started with Rome 1, I was here on the first weeks of this general. YOU get over yourself and your shitty ass "HURR LOOK AT ME /TWG/, I'M SUCH A GOOD STRATEGIST I CAN PUT MY ELITE DWARVES ON A HILL AND TAKE A NAP WHILE THEY KILL ZOMBIES"

If you want to post your stupid "tragedy" just fucking post it, no need to go through 5 posts of "look how awesome I am, suck my dick" first.
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>this whole fucking argument
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I just picked up TWW, it's my first total war game, wondering what race to play.
Just going off initial thoughts i think green skins or undead would be my favorite , but the waaagh mechanic in green skins seems weird , what do I do
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>>183912107
What's the price difference?
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>>183912991

I wouldn't recommend Greenskins, their early game will be frustrating if you don't know what you're doing.

Vamps are a fine choice for a beginner.
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>>183912991
undead are the easier of the 2 and would probably be the best to play for your first tw game

Greenies have the porblem of having one of the harder early game match-ups, as most of their units have a hard time dealing with the armored midgets that you will be fighting early on
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>>183912823
Lad, where was I saying I'm awesome? Improve your reading comprehension. What I said was
>I stomped Manlet so utterly I thought all vampires are pussies
>then got slaughtered the next battle
It's a simple story of 8 posts. 3 of which seem to be the ones that make you mad. So that leaves 5 that shouldn't be a problem even for you.

Let me guess, you're a guest from Paradox general.
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>>183912982
Serious business. This is what happens when the ancient seal of taking it easy isn't posted.
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>>183912991
Dorfs are pretty easy.
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>>183912991
Start as Dwarfs
Most easy faction and if its your first total war it helps you understand basics
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>>183913056

750 compared to 500 for the non-RoR version
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>>183912107
These are gonna be the Sigmar's sons of Beastmen Infantry. A must-pick for multiplayer if their price is reasonable.
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>>183912823
Why the fuck are you so jealous dude? Jesus christ, its on topic, and isnt shitposting. Can you fuck off and let the guy post what he wants? Nobody needs your shitty opinion here anyway you brainlet
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>>183912991
>it's my first total war game, wondering what race to play.
Obviously not Dawi because that will trigger some very special anons in this thread when you finally decide to ask a question or share some screenshots.
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>>183912991
> Vamps
Comfy choice, all you have to do is just ensure you've taken over Sylvania and then wait until the Chaos invasion happens. By that point the human factions should be weakened or gone and you'll have enough vampyric corruption in their provinces (through heroes) to move your armies in and clean up the scraps.
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They weren't lying when they said that FotS siege defense was easy
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>>183910034
>this is a terrible grudge
>for it is a terrible play!
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>>183912991
>>183913087
can confirm beat my first campaing as vamp and i am a noob at tw
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>>183913087
>>183913128
Alright so which vamp lord is best?
Can I like eventually have all the rest join me? Including the ones from the faction I don't play as?
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>>183913383
yeah as long as you have the two tiers and rank fire you can last as long as you have ammunition.
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>>183911662
Then I guess I'm wrong. I just remember people saying they were getting warhammer 1 on sale and pirating the DLC. Though I could be missing something from that
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>>183913214
a rank 9 unshielded gor herd costs 45 more than the ror version, but has the same stats aside from armor/charge bonus

w/ the RoR, you pay 45 less to get better armor/cb and vanguard/stalk on the unit

>paying less for a straight upgrade
Bravo CA
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>>183913563

>Alright so which vamp lord is best?

Mannfred is solidly the best out of them, though the others aren't bad per se.

Kemmler used to be the worst lord in the game, but he's recently gotten a unique summon ability that helped him a lot.

>Can I like eventually have all the rest join me?

Yes

>Including the ones from the faction I don't play as?

No
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>>183901782
pretty certain g2a gives you Norsca, it just gives you a steam key which works exactly the same as if you'd bought the game from steam itself.

I don't think there's a way to actually detach the pre-order bonus from a steam key.
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Is a very very slow start typical for Wood Elf campaigns?
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>>183913701
this is my biggest beef with RoR. they have an added ability and are cheaper rank 9 units.

I wish RoR only included the ability and had to be ranked up like any other unit.
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>>183913701

>>paying less for a straight upgrade

That's the case for most RoR, not quite as expensive as putting on 9 chevrons and with some other upside on top.

That's why they're limited to one.
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>>183913464
The little touches of humour in TW games are quite enjoyable
>Fast [for a Dwarf]
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>>183913297
I beat 90% factions on Legendary and all i can say is DAWI4LIFE
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>>183898870
What map mod?
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>>183899550
The campaign itself will have to be overhauled in some ways because of Norsca
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>>183913872
yeah but many of them already have key abilities.

If a base unit ranked up to 9 was the same cost as the RoR, then i'd be okay with it.
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>>183913715
Aww man I wanted to be manny and get vlad
I guess that's alright then
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>>183913563
Vlad is easiest. He has the best campaign abilities. He can recruit his second legendary lord from the start while most factions need to do a specific thing first (build a high tier building).His entire army has vanguard deployment meaning they can begin the battle inches from the enemy army. And one of his skills give ALL armies extra experience per turn. And the more experienced an army the better they are. He also has a cool voice.
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>>183913731
I think there is because I bought DoW3 (shame on me and my ancestors) from some cheap key site and I didnt get pre order skins and Dow3 belongs to SEGA. This SEGA supported reailers list is for a reason I guess.
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>>183913929
>Dawi gunline player thinks he's hardcore #421
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>>183902390
What if RoR comes with an overhaul of how it works in the campaign?

Also
>giving a shit about quick battle balance
until they make qb a game mode that isn't retarded it'll never be balanced.

It's currently impossible to balance qb because you always see your opponents faction and completely counter it in a lot of cases.
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>>183912492

Thank you so much that's super helpful.
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>>183914090
That artwork makes me sad that grail knights don't look that awesome in game.
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>>183914043
Damn Vlad sounds like a legend then.
I'll think more about it while I'm "working" and I'll start up tonight. Thanks for the help fellas
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>>183914090
>candleholder on helmet
Lame, the truly faithful have braziers as crowns
>2 x candleholder on shield
Now that's hardcore.
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>>183912823
>autistic screeching
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>>183913968
RoR should cost more than a max rank equivalent unit - all the RoR already have the stats of rank 9 units + added abilities, so they should cost more

>>183914145
>What if RoR comes with an overhaul of how it works in the campaign?

It probably won't, knowing CA. As for quick battles, it may not be balanced but adding in more units that are straight upgrades over their counterparts for less money makes it even worse, and ruins army variety as people will always pick the same pwerful ror every battle
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>>183914090
Gunline, Axeline , Hammerline. Dawi best. No matter what race I played bretons got owned by elves or norscans so yeah.
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>>183913929
Ok now do that with greenskins.
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>>183914482
>Candles on shield to block weapons in the dark
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>>183914043
How much effect does experience have on units? Is it worth making buildings for it?
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It is told that in their beginning the Dwarves were made by Aulë in the darkness of Middle-earth; for so greatly did Aulë desire the coming of the Children, to have learners to whom he could teach his lore and his crafts, that he was unwilling to await the fulfilment of the designs of Ilúvatar. And Aulë made the Dwarves even as they still are, because the forms of the Children who were to come were unclear to his mind, and because the power of Melkor was yet over the Earth; and he wished therefore that they should be strong and unyielding. But fearing that the other Valar might blame his work, he wrought in secret: and he made first the Seven Fathers of the Dwarves in a hall under the mountains in Middle-earth.

Now Ilúvatar knew what was done, and in the very hour that Aulë's work was complete, and he was pleased, and began to instruct the Dwarves in the speech that he had devised for them, Ilúvatar spoke to him; and Aulë heard his voice and was silent. And the voice of Ilúvatar said to him: 'Why hast thou done this? Why dost thou attempt a thing which thou knowest is beyond thy power and thy authority? For thou hast from me as a gift thy own bring only, and no more; and therefore the creatures of thy hand and mind can live only by that being, moving when thou thinkest to move them, and if thy thought be elsewhere, standing idle. Is that thy desire?'
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>>183913336
>not taking Altdorf by turn 40 and building the dark magic colleges
that sounds like the most utterly boring way to play vamps ever
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>>183914580
That's why I said I beat 90%. I cant into greenskins. They are pussies by nature and this heavy Leadership penalty is killing me. Even when I menage to beat other orcs Blitzkrieg Confederation guy Throgrim and his sidekick Grombrindal always Knock on Black Crag door around 30-40 turn.
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>>183914630
>We bring the light of Sigmar to the dark!
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Then Aulë answered: 'I did not desire such lordship. I desired things other than I am, to love and to teach them, so that they too might perceive the beauty of Eä, which thou hast caused to be. For it seemed to me that there is great room in Arda for many things that might rejoice in it, yet it is for the most part empty still, and dumb. And in my impatience I have fallen into folly. Yet the making of thing is in my heart from my own making by thee; and the child of little understanding that makes a play of the deeds of his father may do so without thought of mockery, but because he is the son of his father. But what shall I do now, so that thou be not angry with me for ever? As a child to his father, I offer to thee these things, the work of the hands which thou hast made. Do with them what thou wilt. But should I not rather destroy the work of my presumption?'

Then Aulë took up a great hammer to smite the Dwarves; and he wept. But Ilúvatar had compassion upon Aulë and his desire, because of his humility; and the Dwarves shrank from the hammer and wore afraid, and they bowed down their heads and begged for mercy. And the voice of Ilúvatar said to Aulë: 'Thy offer I accepted even as it was made. Dost thou not see that these things have now a life of their own, and speak with their own voices? Else they would not have flinched from thy blow, nor from any command of thy will.' Then Aulë cast down his hammer and was glad, and he gave thanks to Ilúvatar, saying: 'May Eru bless my work and amend it!'

Yeah it's Tolkien, but I still cri every tiem
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*Blocks your path*
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>>183914772
See? The moment you said dawi were your favorite I instantly knew you wouldn't be able to win with greenskins.
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>>183914698
I gave an easy way, not an interesting one per se.
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>>183914650
It's worth everything to give bonus experience to units.
>recruiting rank 5 Thunderers as White Dwarf
gg no re
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>Silver Bullets vs Handgunners (Rank 9)
+5range
+2missile damage
-80 cost (850sb vs 930)
+stalk
+magical attacks

>Sigmar's Sons vs Swordsmen (Rank 9)
+2 weapon strength
+6 charge bonus
+unbreakable
+90 cost (750ss vs 660swordsmen)

RoR should be like the sigmar's sons, not like the silver bullets
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>>183914884
>big fucking rock in Roman wheat field
immersion ruined
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>>183914651
>>183914835
tl;dr
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>>183914964
That's an insult ! I am gonna go and start new grobi campagin. Yeah I like Dwarfs since playing Dwarf Fortress I wanted a good strategy with Dwarfs. But my first favourite in TW:W was Empire so I am not 100% Dwarf player. Also I know it's different but in multi I was good with Greens I was surprised that it's that hard because GS was the last campagin I started after rest of the races.
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>>183914991
>not recruiting rank 9 units

you have ways to go manlet. haha
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>>183914650
A unit of blood knights that are fully experienced have 10 more leadership 11 more melee attack and 12 more melee defense. That isnt much but if it goes against a unit of the same caliber it will win.
Fully ranked handgunners get the same bonus as blood knights just with a very small +4 missile damage meaning It's actually not that useful for ranged units
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>>183914419
Oh I was wondering, what should I focus on in the tech tree?
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>>183914580

How 2 legendary as greenskins:

>Resist the urge to fight the red fangs unless they step on your turf.
>Raid black crag to farm rebels till you get a Waaagh.
>Take the Waaagh over the mountains into Karak Azul territory, or up to Karaz a Karak if you know Thorgrim is elsewhere, even if that elsewhere is West of you on the way to black crag.
>Leave a Lord behind to help with the inevitable capital defense against at least one dwarf faction.
>Wipe out one of the Dawi capitals pincering you, turning the Badlandsb owl into a one direction slog.
>Bonus points for checking in with red fangs and wurrzag every turn for confederation.

Not even hard.
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>>183915049
>Tattersouls vs Flaggelants (rank 9)
-2melee def
+10charge bonus
+more health/unit size
-54 cost (775ts vs 829flg)

>Zintler's Reiksguard vs Reiksguard (Rank 9)
+vanguard deployment
+immunity to psychology
-305 cost (1300zr vs 1605rg)

You see what I'm getting at here?
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>>183911586
This guy's not jokin'
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>>183915430
Lahmian book of blood and the one that buffs skeletons.
The other two give small bonuses to units you wont use that much while the book of blood has some impressive bonuses for everything otuside of combat and you will always be using skeletons.
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>>183909017
Queek Headtaker will probably replace the Crooked Moon rebels, so yeah as either Belegar or Thorgrim you'll be able to kill the Skaven.
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>>183915430
And since I'm OCD I'm gonna end up playing as everyone, so someone gimme an order to play all the factions in. Vlad is gonna be first, idc about the rest
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>>183915436
>Raid black crag to farm rebels till you get a Waaagh.
But Greenskins can't farm rebels because they don't have raid stance?

Raid camp gives like a fraction of the -public order.
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Give me potential new LL info senpaitachi
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>>183915779
i would say that after the first any faction goes except chaos that one is pretty hard but if you want a recommendation go empire after vlad
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>>183915775
Skaven also have a sizable presence in the vaults so they may replace the ones over there. Interested in how, if, they will include the Hell Pit. Its one of the most famous skaven strongholds but there is currently no place to put it.
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>>183909813
Norscan women/Reiklander femdom when
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>>183916040
Skaven caster is probably Thanquol
Skaven fighty guy is probably Throt or Queek
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>>183916342
New LLs for the first game?
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>>183916040
Grand Cathay's LL will be the Dragon-Emperor.
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>>183915451
>Royal Altdorf Gryphites vs Demigryph Knights w/ Halberds (rank 9)
+causes terror
-345 cost (1800rag vs 2145dk)

>Hammer of the Witches vs Great Cannon (rank 9)
+8 ammo
+64 missile damage
+Bonus vs Large
+Magical Ammunition
+25% phsyical resistance

>Templehof Luminark vs Luminark (rank 9)
-7melee attack
-4melee defence
+net of amyntok
+encourage
-765 cost (2325 tl vs 3090l)

>Sunmaker vs Hellstorm (rank 9)
+6ammo
+406missile damage (I believe this has more to do w/ the sunmaker shooting double the rockets/volley)
+fire damage
+8 cost (1950sm vs 1942hsrb)
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>>183916414
If they do Middenland, expect a fleshed out Boris Todbrigner along with the Al-Ulric Emil Valgeir. We might get Neferata and her Lahmian vampires at Silver Pinnacle when the second game gets Tomb Kings.
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>>183911247
>implying lords and heroes aren't enlarged to make them easier to pick out on the battlefield
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>>183912991
Someone post the roll sheet
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>>183913886
>mfw they stick to lore and the Infernal Guard is unavailable to the main Chaos Dwarf faction until they take Black Fortress
>tfw their line troops will have to be the old Babylonian Chorf warriors and not the stupid 40k-ish Infernal Guard

fingers crossed for that 90s magic
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>>183915779

Vlad > Dwarfs > Empire > Bretonnia > Greenskins > Wood Elves > Beastmen > Chaos

I've played all of them and this is how they felt difficulty wise. Though take that with a grain of salt, since I did mod it pretty heavily after my first campaign. Speaking of, here's some mods I feel are borderline essential: they're all cosmetic, though, since this is your first time:

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=744844351
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=690476829
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=696257540
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=700406231
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=952084679

There's also this one, that adds minor settlements:

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=883467263

There's one that makes unique settlements for the bigger settlements too, but the maps weren't created equal, some are real good, others less so, so you'll have to judge for yourself.
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>>183915338

>That isn't much but

10 attack and 10 defense is pretty huge in most situations. In a lot of melee situations that's hitting and digging 25% more often.
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>>183915451
>>183915049
i agree with you.

I faced off against an empire army that stacked all the RoRs and it was honestly larger than an equivalent sized non RoR army. didn't help that it was double net spam focus down the lord shit either.
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>>183916551
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>>183916585
Wow thanks a ton for all of this!
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>>183915934

They can't farm them as fast as other races but it's still plenty fast to get a Waaagh spawned before the dwarfs can stop you. The heavy negatives to public order for playing on legendary also help quite a bit.
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>>183916786
Changer direct me
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>>183916421
>Stirland's Revenge vs FCM (rank 9)
+4 missile damage
+ap missile damage
+immunity to psychology
+stalk
+98 cost (825sr vs 727fcm)

so basically out of all the empire RoR, there are a few that are relatively ok price-wise, being more expensive than their rank 9 counterparts to make up for the extra abilities they have (sigmars son's, stirland's revenge), but most of them are cheaper than their regular counterparts despite having abilities that make them a straight upgrade. The Royal Gryphites, Zintler's RG, and the Silver Bullets are the best examples of why the current implementation of the RoR system is flawed
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>>183916830

No problem, have fun Anon!
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>>183916941
Say hello to your brothers from me.
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>>183916585
Other anon, thank you very much!
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>>183916953

In principle I agree with you, but I never play multiplayer so I really cannot bring myself to care, minor differences in unit price are basically entirely irrelevant in campaign.
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>>183916953

Or veterancy is just too expensive in mp.
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>>183916914
they can't farm them at all, your post sounds like made up bullshit.

-3 public order from raiding makes it basically pointless and you get -100% income from your province.
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Is it acceptable to play any other faction but The Empire?
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>>183916830
Shouldnt Empire be more difficult than Bretonnia ?
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>>183916786
I've got a couple campaigns going but I might as well see if I get anything interesting
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WHEN CAN I PLAY NORSCAN SHITS
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>>183917294
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>>183916830

Actually, one more: this isn't cosmetic though, so keep that in mind. In vanilla, the AI recruitment can on occasion fuck up. You'll see an army with nothing but chariots or an Orc Warlord with nothing but Goblins. Kind of lame. This mod fixes that pretty handily, though if you want your first campaign to be "pure", you should probably not use it. Your call.

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=761596200
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>>183917295
Empire's farther from Norsca.
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>>183917294
You're stupid.
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>>183917295

I haven't played Empire in a while, so it might be more difficult than I think. Neither were super difficult, however.
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>>183916584
>tfw their line troops will have to be the old Babylonian Chorf warriors and not the stupid 40k-ish Infernal Guard
Oh fuck i really hope so
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>>183917489
Yeah but Bretonnia first 50 turns is easy. Confederation for free. Empire first you need to waste some turns to unite Reikland and even later not every province likes you like Middenheim who's really hard to confederate.
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>>183917410
Don't listen to him, he is overcomplicating stuff. What you should do though is to subscribe to the SFO (this mod does everything you can possibly need lore wise and in terms of gameplay), download PFM afterwards and disable all the shitty new units in SFO which you don't like. If you want. That's it, pretty simple.
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>>183916786
Check these dubs. Fuck kek. Sigmar compels me!
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>>183903913
Iceni is best-ceni.
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>>183917396
Well fun fact that's literally who I was playing right now. Guess it's a sign to stay focused.
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Soon
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>>183917884

All C*lts are equally shit.
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>>183917257

>-3 public order
The province will rebel quickly on legendary whether you're raiding it or not, as long as you aren't sitting a stack on the capital.
>Cuts off your income.
Most of your money at this stage of the game is the flat background 2500 a turn. If it's that bothersome for 5-10 turns of less money then delay out building the gold mine.

I'd be happy to post my year old simultaneous greenskins very hard / legendary cheevos when I get home.
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>>183916416
I fucking hope so bro.
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>>183916113
There isn't really a lord or faction they could put there, the current setup of the Skaven they seem like they're going for will have two clans in the New World map playable and the Skavenblight itself will be where the "Skaven" proper faction is and Queek is a must for the Belegar-Skarsnik threeway.
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>>183917834

>SFO

I don't care how much you remove, it cannot be salvaged. Throw it into a fire.
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>>183918079
And the Nippon LL will be the military ruler of all Nippon
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>>183916416
>>183918079
There will be no Cathay.
Last expansion only chaos with shitty demon reskin DLC.
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>>183916342
>>183916040
Skaven will have four LLs total, only two of them in the New World and the other two in the Old World.

>>183916584
Chorf warriors should be their basic infantry anyway just because their roster from Tamurkhan overall is kind of small.
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>>183917871
It is Sigvald, not Sigmar, who shall surely sunder your shameful stern with his sexual suppository.
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>>183916113

Fit it in the mountain pass North of Praag, easy peasy.
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>>183918180
ah yes the anti-SFO anon, how do you fare with those 60 unit size grail guardians hmm? quite loreful right?
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>>183918140
Of course but I'm talking about non-playable factions. How will the old world change? I would be pretty disappointed if Queek and Skavenblight are the only skaven factions in the old world.
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>>183917927
>most likely will be released in March or April 2019
>"soon"
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>>183917927
Never ever, edgy manlet.
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>>183918354
Sigvald pls... My boipussi isn't ready to be a scion of slaanesh
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>>183918298

FUCK OFF ARCH
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>>183918431
Well they could just take a hold from the Norse Dwarfs and rename it Hell Pit.

Or do what >>183918360 says and just add a little province for it. Skavenblight will probably be a small province anyway.
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PUT YOUR BACKS INTO IT, YOU MEN!
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>>183918354
Please don't give him (you)'s. He's so autistic it's painful, It's on par with THE MAZE DOLORES!
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>play chaos warriors
>make a chaos superstack with archaon
>wanna make a sigvald or kholek army
>have to start from the ground up again with marauders and two unit recruitment slots
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>Going back in the archive to last year and seeing the map speculation

lmoa
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>Those dick sucking lips
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So when playing wood elves is it a good idea to spend early amber on making your starting ciety better and/or getting one or two of the amber technologies or should I be saving to fix up the tree?
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>>183916584
Hey look it's that one faggot who hates Infernal Guard.
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>>183918591
What ? Arch ? Explain yoursefl.
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>>183917834
What is this PFM? I get to remove the shitty OC that ruined a mod I liked?
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>>183904204
They look green... Pestigor?
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>>183918807
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>>183918706
Why is a Westworld meme in /twg/? What did I miss?
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>>183919398
Are you living under a cave?
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>>183919139
Don't build the tree until you're ready to fight off some serious beastcock.
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>>183919398

You didn't miss anything, it never made any sense, it's the shittiest, most forced meme the general has ever seen.
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>>183918807
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>Beastmen AI throws half its damn army at a single Mammoth.
>They fail to even get it down to 50% health.
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>>183919476
Yes
>>183919491
That's why I'm asking, I usually manage to make sense of this shit but how does the maze fit in warhammer? TELL ME DOLORES
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>>183919656

>but how does the maze fit in warhammer?

It doesn't.

I THINK the connection was that a screenshot of map that was released with the Wood Elves DLC where the side of a rock kinda, sorta not really looked like the Maze.

Some retarded decided that this was apparently funny enough to warrant spamming it for months.
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>>183896335
>Norsca First Gameplay Glance:
>private
FFFFUUUUUUUCKKK YOOUUUUl
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>>183919821

It was reuploaded by CA and no one remember to swap out the old like for the new one.

Just search for it on Youtube.
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snow battles aww yissss
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>>183918807
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>>183919993
rip tree ._.
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Lads I need help with Kemmler. I've modded the game to all hell, and I am trying him out for the first time.

When does the ability to summon Krell appear? Is it something you have at level 1? Is it part of a quest? A skill you unlock?

I ask because I can't, I can't see anything about it on his tree. I think a mod might have buggered me.

I'm running SFO, alt starts, and a bunch of other shit.
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Are you ready for true memery?
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>>183920062
m-maybe they'll be ok
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>>183919803
Thank you for putting my mind at rest friendly anon
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>>183904204
>>183919362
I hope so.
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>>183920149
This is going to have to be updated for the new asininity.
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You guys think it will work buying TW:W2 key in russia and activiating it through VPN ? I am from EU and my country currency is shit. For 1digital pre order(why is this more expensive than box?) I could buy 2 games in Russia.
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>>183920115
Don't worry. Fixed it. Also Krell looks fantastic!
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>There are faggots in this thread who didn't vote for Throgg
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>installed that mod for southern realms
>marienburg fucked frogking
>now brets don't confederate
>turn 50, karl is almost fucked by local urks and two hords
>so its likely no one is going to confederate empire too
That's some serious shit, how am I gonna fix it as local Venice?
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>>183920115

Since you've already modded it, just the get the mod that makes him a legendary hero.
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>>183920770
He dies permanently though
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>>183920594
I didn't agree with tax policy
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>>183920594
This meme is so dumb and forced it could be from /tv/.
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>>183920594
THROGG!
THROGG!
THROGG!
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>>183920879
>>183920987
CLUB ON SKULL
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>>183920818
nope he comes back after five turns or so. tested it yesterday
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Is there any way to get TWW mods without steam ? Torrented the game because I'm a poorfag
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>>183917403
august 10th
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>>183921074
IT WAS WULFRIK'S TURN
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>>183920987
Butthurt Slaaneshi faggot detected
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>>183921137
really? It would be perfect if the AI also used him though
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>>183921184
Google for "Steam Workshop Downloader", and get a job, and stop being poor...
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>>183921293
Is there some other kind of of Slaneeshi anything?
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>>183921371
I have a job, not financially in a spot to spend like 150 bucks for TWW and all the DLC
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>>183921528
Stop spending so much money on delicious foods!!
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>attack two Chaos armies with my dwarves
>grind them to paste, kill Big Bird, heavy losses, but worth it
>next turn a full chaos stack rides from the fog of war right into my tattered army

Wipe this meme from the face of the earth
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>>183921184
1)download the mod using steamworkshop downloader and put it in your data folder

2)use a hex editor the take out everything before PFH

3) go to C:\Users\(your pc username)\AppData\Roaming\The Creative Assembly\Warhammer\scripts

4)create a text with the name user.script.txt

5)in the text put the name of the mods like this

mod "mods_skipintros.pack";
mod "mods_campaign_mappack_0.pack";
mod "mods_campaign_mappack_1.pack";
mod "mods_campaign_mappack_2.pack";
mod "mods_campaign_mappack_3.pack";
mod "mods_campaign_mappack_4.pack";
mod "mods_campaign_mappack_5.pack";
mod "mods_blackguard.pack";
mod "name of the mod file with pack";
and don't forget the simbols like ; and "
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>>183921294
yeah it's a good mod, makes me wonder why CA didn't make him a unique LH in the first place. also haven't seen the AI use him
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>>183921636
>you can pirate games
>you can't pirate food
Not him, but it makes sense to me.
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>>183921667
Thanks a ton bub
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>>183921765
no problem it took me forever to find a way to use mods without a launcher
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>>183921745
>he doesn't pirate food
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Experimenting with faction unlocker.

Where to next for the Red Duck and Heiny K,?
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>>183922105
Kill Vlad and Mannlet, claim Isabella for your own as the superior vampire.
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>>183922105
Altdorf!
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History game news when?
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>>183920398
Just pirate it with a VPN at that point, buying (and not just activating before release date) through VPN in Steam sounds like a great way to get banned.
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>>183922334
My guess is after TW:WH2 is released or on CA's birthday.
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>>183922334
Total War SAGA development is in full swing. We've brought in a pair of very talented Traditional Gaelic speakers to give this entry the grounded flavour it deserves.
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>>183922334
>History
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>>183922491
Bullying historyfriends isn't nice
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>>183922491
>fantasy
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>>183922395
My friend bought MK X like that from russia and MX X Dlc from Brazil. He said only risk is that it will not work or be deleted from my account
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>>183922676
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>>183922245
That sounds cool. Do that.
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>>183922491
>fantasy

Just remember why this general even exist newfriend
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>>183922676
I love Medieval Art
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>>183923118
Because the latest game is the most discussed and the latest game is TWW?
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>>183923167
I love /twg/!
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Guess I'm not fighting Franz this game
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>>183916416
>Dragon-Emperor
I am hyped.
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>>183898864
Considering the grace period for "early adopters" will be a week after release, I don't see why not because you're just buying a regular key at this point.
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>>183923335
Talabecland can be some real bastards
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>>183923335

>using the "its always dark in the old world" mod
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>>183923416
Grace!?
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>>183923118

>Because the latest game is the most discussed and the latest game is TWW?
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Rome roll chart where?
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>>183923167
Medieval """Art"""
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>>183923739
Roll or Die
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>>183923897
Is Rome 2 the Dark Souls of Total War?
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>>183923897
Rall
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>>183923335
So how can you see anything in this
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>>183924002
>Dark Souls of Total War?
You mean extremely overrated with cancer fanbase?
Dont think so
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>Wulfrik is stronger than Sigvald, chosen champion of Slaneesh

Is this a joke?
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>>183924079
what you're seeing is not in my LOS, covered in fog. that isn't what I normally see
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>>183924182

POWER

C
R
E
E
P
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>>183924182
Get pissed.
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>>183924182
>>Wulfrik is stronger than Sigvald, chosen champion of Slaneesh

Sigvald has regen, so Wulfrik isn't straight up better
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Behold the English caliphate(tm).

You don't want to see the state of europe
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>>183924182
>>183924304
Reminder that LLs will not be rebalanced once the final DLC of W3 is released.
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>>183924446
why not?
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>>183924361

Yeah with items, we don't even know what Wulfrik's items do.

His innate ability that shits on lords is already comparable to the regen if not better.
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So what are the chances of us getting a intro cinematic for Norsca?

Will they have one or not?
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>>183924653
Red Duke gets a similar ability.
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>>183924182
Wulfrik is a manly man who kills folk, Sigvald cries in his sleep because other people are prettier.
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>>183924720

And what's your point? Red duke is better than sigvald
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Sorry to ask this. What are the conditions for a battle marker lads?

As in the thing that lets me get better undead stuff?
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>>183924893
lots of casualties on both sides, which doesn't include the dead from reinforcing garrisons
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>>183924893
>>183924974
I believe both sides need to have at least 14 units and a total of at least 2000 casualties.
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>>183924446
Why Mousillon of all things?
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>>183924446
>Kemmler is a pacifist and a nice old man surrounded by "old friends" and "his children".
>Karl Franz is a bloodthirsty tyrant whose only friends are a religious zealot and a crazed wizard with an imposing gold mask.
Why didn't we elect Kemmler as Emperor?
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>>183925207
Red Dukie stronk.
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>>183925229
Probably because of those all human and non human skulls around him
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>>183925207
VC have always been a top tier faction and mousillon gets the red dookie
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>>183924182

>Chaos champion that has had to live as a duelist for five thousand years.
>Prancing lala homo man.
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>>183924709
You mean with the raven dude?
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>>183925360
The Empire loves putting skulls on everything. Perfect! Kemmler for Emperor!
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>>183925229
>sucks manlet's cock
>worth a damn
pick one
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>>183925875
Yeah but they are golden , silver etc. Kimmler uses real ones.
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>>183925978
Kemmlar is a chaos worshipper m8, you're thinking of the other dude.
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>>183922245
Isabella will only ever love her ugly but suave husband.
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>>183925978
Yeah... what IS the lore explanation for, firstly, how Kemmler got Necromantic powers from Chaos despite Nagash/Necromancy being the anti-chaos chaos magic and, secondly, for an extremely powerful and independent Necromancer operating in Bretonnia to suddenly drop everything and go help Manlet Von Carstein in Sylvania?
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>>183926201
Then why did I defeat Vlad and confederate Isabella?
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>>183926445
>Nagash/Necromancy being the anti-chaos chaos magic
I am confused.
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>Bros4life heinyK and the Red Duck have cornered LeoLeo. Dey be sayin ayo hol up leo.

I don't really know how to speak black person so I'm sorry about this.
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>>183926538
>"Necromancy, although usable by the forces of Chaos, also repels it; in a way the Undead are artificial Daemons made of equal amount of magic and material which flips the middle finger at the laws of physics (as much as Chaos can be said to have such laws anyway) of both."
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>>183926538
No blood for Corn
No dieseases for Nurgle
No hot wet sweaty sex for Slaanesh
No schemez
More undead, less Chaos
Vote for Vlad!
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>>183926445
CA initially thought it would be a good idea to make all the LLs have the same start pos despite the lore and the previous games show evidence to the contrary.
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>>183926625
Notorious L.E.O. would have been better now I think of it.
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Wow Norsca looks pretty OP. The Beastmen are sobbing in their forests and filth. They are just completely outclassed.
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>>183926625
WHERE IS K R E L L?
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>>183912823
>Rome 1 babbies
Everything past med 1 was a mistake
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Norsca is coming, #PrayForPraag to get a cool and unique siege mission!
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>>183926803
That poor demented old man has no idea, and here you are making fun of him for it!
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>>183926445
Kemmler made a deal with vague chaos powers to get back his magical powers after he got blown out in a fight and lost them, on the condition that he used them for destructive purposes
As for teaming up with mannlet, gameplay considerations, plus mannlet is actually pretty powerful in the grand scheme of things and would probably be one of the few leaders that would let a necromancer sit around and do his thing, given that joining chaos is ruled out and pretty much everyone else hates humans, necromancers or both
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>>183926921
Playable Kislev when? I want to be the first line of defense
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>>183926921
What an obscene thing to wish for! Lady Fortune will enjoy granting you the disappointment you deserve.
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>>183926921
New special sack/raze option with Norsca: turn it into a horrible squirming mass of flesh in the name of Chaos.
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>>183925126

14 units in a non reinforcing army on both sides, if I'm not mistaken.
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>>183926921
>ogre ghetto
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>>183926921
Did we ever learn what was buried under Praag and did Chaos get it?
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>>183927012
game 3
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>winter night battle with falling snow
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>>183926803
>Ayo hol' up
>nig nig wub wub
>niggity wah
>Heiny K and K R E L L in da house

I don't know how to stop
>>
First time playing and I'm enjoying my game, is chaos invasion supposed to drain so much fun out of a playthrough?
I was having much more fun dealing with elector counts, fighting vampires and getting in disputes with brettonia and dorfs
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>>183916786
my body is wurrzag's
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>>183916786
I want to take a break from the chore that is Gothic Armada
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>>183927983
You are Chaos Goat now, haha
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>>183928253
>most boring lord in the game


fug :DDD
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>>183927963
Chaos invasion is somewhat flawed in its current state

>ai refuses to fight you unless the odds are overwhelmingly in their favor
>burning down half of the world means that the player is usually the one resettling everything
>requiring every army be destroyed in addition to first point means that you end up with tiny armies triggering the doomtide event
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>>183928576
>not Ghorst
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>>183928576

Go full Unchivalrous, be the bad guy you want to be.
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>>183928651
Ghorst has an interesting starting pos unlike Alberic, and he's actually worth something in battle
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>>183928634
Its just got to tedious now, all this posturing to stop them razing my shit, and then being the sole shitbag to deal with the warriors of chaos armies that show up, if I had more armies it'd be a lot easier to force a fight, but that's probably not happening
I feel like this would have been a better if it was a later game thing, maybe buff them up a bit, which I guess the new DLC might for the norscan
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>>183927963

You can mod it out or delay it, but it's only particularly disruptive for empire and maybe vamps.
>>
Warhammer review:

Graphics:6/10
Audio:4/10
Campaign:3/10
Battles:7/10
Longevity:6/10
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Considering the ongoing discussion, is there a mod that DISABLES chaos invasions? I'd much prefer having Empire, Norsca, Bretonnia, Dwarf factions endlessly fighting eachother for supremacy.
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>take enemy gate
>as they rout away from the city, kill them using their own defences

Get fucked urki.
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>>183928634
>be most powerful force in the Old World with multiple lvl 30 lords and full armies of triple gold chevron elite units
>razed all the Norscan, Wood Elf, and Greenskin settlements
>just want to snowball and take over Bretonnia and the Southern Realms with the help from Dawi bros and call it a day
>have to deal with shithead Chaos sneaking up on me from the North
Just... Fuck off, Archaon.
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>>183929345
and the morality score?
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>>183929325
Thinking about it it kinda kills my desire to play empire again (they're my favourite faction) knowing I'd have to go through that shit again
I'll probably look for a delay mod, I don't mind fighting chaos but I'd prefer it be a creeping invasion that actually works rather than just the mid game mad rush it is
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>>183916786
Rolling on up
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Do all these achievements that say "playing as greenskins" unlock if I do them as wurrzag?
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>>183916786
Hoping for the best
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>>183930072

Yes.
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>>183916786
ayyy
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>>183929387
have you looked
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>>183916786
RETAKE THE REALM
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>>183930121

Neat, thanks anon.
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>>183916786
zzzzzzzzzzz
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>>183916786
I said: MUSTER THE DAWI THRONG
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>>183916786
Pray to RNjesus
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>>183929345
>Longevity:6/10
why that? from what i've been hearing it's either a 3/10 or a 8/10.
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You're in the Kharak and this gnollengrom strols up to your shapely kvinn and scratches her dongliz.

What do you do?
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>>183916786
rollin'
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>>183930142
no
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>>183930581
fetch the book
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Why is Vamp economy so fucked? If I hold the provinces of Averland, Wissenland, and Stirland as Empire I'm getting a net income of +2,500 gold a turn even with multiple full army stacks. But if I hold the same provinces as Vamps I'm bleeding -680 gold a turn with 1.5 army stacks. How do I get good at Vamp economics?
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>>183930581
GRUDGES MUST BE SETTLED
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>>183930581

Grumble loudly at my brother and refer to our marriage contract that CLEARLY STATES Wednesdays are my time with our mutual wife.
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is this a good way to have my army?

I got all the cheap/armored stuff in the middle, anti charge/large on the sides and my high dps as reserves behind them all and then ranged behind that

and my horse dudes on the side who are just gonna flank around and go behind

just gonna move up to the top of the hill and shoot down I guess
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What does it usually take to confederate as the Empire?
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>>183930581
walk over him
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>>183930713
Yeah, Undead economy is sort of weak compared to other races

Don't try to have super elite armies, mix in some bats and skellingtons into your armies
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>>183930941
The people you're asking to be worrying about their demise usually
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>>183930713

Vamp Crypts and Next Towers for money, the low tier income buildings suck. You'll get a better return on your investment building for growth early to get at the good money buildings than building the shit ones at all.
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Here you go faggots

http://i.imgur.com/6dHdLrn.jpg
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Damn, Norsca looks great

CA is actually getting better and better with races. Makes the default 4 looks like rubbish.
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>>183930941
Tender hand-holding and a romantic evening in Altdorf with the respective elector count. Elector Count dating simulator when?!
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>>183930816
lmao what the fuck is that army dude
>>
I bought this on release it was fun but I had to leave for a long ass time

Are any of the expansions any good

How do I play the vampire guys, not the vampire lords but that vlad guy and the girl this is hard to describe.
Any tips or dos and don'ts I should know?
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>>183930941

Confederation is a mix of a few things in this priority:

1. How close to getting wiped out they are.
2. How much they like you.

Keep in mind forming a defensive or military alliance directly conflicts with point one as the AI expects you to fight their battles, and that 1 trumps 2 to such a degree that a faction that loathes you will always confederate if you are starving out their last town and army.
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>>183931170
its what you get at the start of the campaign on turn 1 with a few other peasant things, it's like turn 5
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>>183931081
>reddit image host
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>>183930941
Good relations and an substantial balance of power difference in your favor
>>
Okay I've looked now and I can't seem to find any good chaos invasion disable mods. There's a mod simply called "No Chaos Invasion", but that mod has one chaos army spawn at the beginning of the game that needs to be defeated for there to be no more chaos, that's just stupid and could throw the early game off balance.

Anyone know a good mod that just straight up disables the fucking chaos invasion with no stupid shit like random chaos army spawn somewhere on the map in the beginning of the game?
>>
>>183931081
That giant looks fuked up
>>
>>183931385
Beastmen are the best horde faction experience from any total war game ever imo. Wood Elves make you feel like you have an army full of Legolas, very fun. Warriors of Chaos ar a mediocre faction but the heavy metal unstoppable infantry aesthetic is godly.
>>
>>183931519
Go on reddit if you want to be spoonfed
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>>183897478
Brave (for a Troll)
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>>183931519

A single chaos army on its own at the beginning of the game will never even make it out of Kislev. It will not change the early game in a remotely meaningful way.
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>>183931668
What a fucking nigger

>>183931712
Is Kislev strong with military units early game? I mean if what you say is the case then I guess it's a good compromise to get rid of the shitfest that is "chaos invasions"
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>>183931441
>>183931509
Thanks. I'm guessing that means I'll be retaking most of the Empire by force then?
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>>183927714
No comfier feeling.
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>>183931935

They start with the entirety of four provinces including a Marienburg tier port. The only reason they don't stop chaos in it's tracks in the vanilla game is due to their endless war with Norsca and it's bottomless economy.
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>>183932004
wtf how did you get the norsca dlc already?? (lol)
>>
Just bought a i5 7500 for total war

Did I do good?
Didnt want to spend that much but wanted to kill a cpu bottleneck with my 1070
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>>183932004
>this is what passes for a pachyderm in historical total wars
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>>183931984

Diplomatic affixes are rolled randomly at the start of a campaign. Any electors that wind up with imperial distrust will likely need to be removed forcefully. Reliable and Underdog Lords can both be reasoned with peacefully.

This is not an ironclad rule as wars will always shift the diplomatic playing field but it does help steer you early on.
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>>183931081
Thank you! *mwah*
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>>183932489
l-lewd
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>>183928778
Ghorst starts in Sylvania, how is that a more interesting start from Mannlet and Kemmler?
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>>183931081
>Skin Wolves
>Speed: 75
Wauw
>>
>>183906080
kys frog poster
>>
>>183932605
You know what's really lewd? munging

>>183932663
I was comparing him to Alberic, which has one of the shittiest starts in the game in Bordeleaux. Sylvania is much more interesting
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>>183932870
>hating on bordeleaux

you don't deserve to play as alberic anyways
>>
>>183932870

>Rival LL just across the border.
>Close enough to pick a fight with WE or southern realms.

Not really seeing a problem with Bordelaux's start desu.
>>
>>183933104
You know that's funny because I live in IRL Bordeaux and I work in the wine sector.

Maybe I just want a break from reality
>>
>>183933104
BOREDelou-x
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>>183914019
You can confederate Vlad's faction as Vampire Counts and viceversa, getting any General on the map in the deal, LLs included

But they are NOT Legendary Lords, and will permanently die if you lose them, they also need to be on the map in the moment of confederation, or they are gone forever
>>
>>183933268
I don't believe you, prove it
>>
>>183933104
>kaisersberg
that's in alsace not bordeaux
>>
>>183933268
What kind of wine should I pair with a pepperoni pizza?
>>
>>183932870

>Sylvania.
>Both of Templehofs armies can be defeated, effectively ending the war, on turn one.
>Mannlet can even capture Castle Templehof on the first turn.
>>
>>183933460
It's only wine image I had alright
>>
>>183930941
You gotta wait until chaos comes
Everyone wants you then
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>>183932354
Im CA
>>
>>183933430
Is that really unbelievable? I guess some people on this site have far more interesting jobs desu

>>183933483
red
Then it depends of where you live, but for a meal such as this you can go with a cheap one
>>
>>183933332
>But they are NOT Legendary Lords, and will permanently die if you lose them, they also need to be on the map in the moment of confederation, or they are gone forever

Neither of these things are true anymore. Legendary Lords retain their immortality, and as long as they've been recruited at some point, they will join your Lord pool, although they will still be wounded for X turns.

Pretty sure this was fixed before Wood Elves went live.
>>
>>183933842
i forgive you
>>
>>183933905
>Wait for state to want confederation
>Chaos starts showing its face
>Turn down confederation requests every turn there on in
>>
>>183933994
It's not necessarily unbelievable, I just don't believe it

where do you work?
>>
>>183934125
Bullshit, if it's the proper invasion and not part of the doomtide then you should get the shield of civilization buff, which makes negotiating with dwarf and human factions incredibly easy.
>>
>>183931081

>Marauder champions are better than chaos warriors

Fuck you CA
>>
>>183934595

Think you may need to reread that green text, champ.
>>
>>183934704
Well, their lore does state that your average chaos warrior is a dude who got memed on and is actively trying to die in battle.
>>
>>183934704
Huscarls, the rough equal to these "Marauder Champions", are on par with your run-of-the-mill Chaos Warriors in the fluff. It's fine.
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>>183927487
Google Arianka.
Also, an entity called the 'Ancient Widow' granted powers of ice magic to the first Ice Queen of the Gospodars in return for protecting the land where she was trapped in ice by the chaos gods. A few parallels can be drawn there.
>>
>>183935048
Is Chaos the source of all memes?
>>
>>183923897
pontus or death
>>
>>183935169

How does this line up with Engra Deathsword razing Praag during the great war against chaos?
>>
>>183935170
>obese neckbeard in a basement
>angry manchild raging at being unable to get girls to talk to him
>attentionwhoring trap nobody wants to talk to but won't go away
>idiot in a birdcostume going "LAWL I TROLL U" every time you turn around
Chaos is the meme.
>>
>>183935680
this, also the memiest races in the setting (beastmemes, reddit rats and cucked dwarves) are all chaos-aligned
>>
>>183935680
Forgot the two furfag, one being a Pyromaniac nihilist who happen to be a factory director abusing his underlings, the other constantly running around in his rat fursona, never wanting to wash it because "rat don't wash !!!" and who pretend to be extremly intelligent because he torture little animals in his basement.
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>>183935506
Who knows.
>>
Any advice on VH belegar? I'm stuck
>>
>>183936797
_____________________________________________________git gud
>>
>>183936797
beat up skarsnik

what's the issue, exactly
>>
>>183936797
Your ghosts are OP, rely on them.
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Is the Empire is Warhammer one of the hardest campaigns now? I keep getting my shit pushed in and it's none stop fighting on all sides.
>>
is there such a thing as differing cav speed in warhammer because I can't seem to figure out why pistoliers can't outride grail knights
>>
>>183918748
Just give Kholek your army and then rapidly build a new one with the 5 recruitment slots you have while level 1 kholek and superstack rapes everything

>people still don't get how to play chaos
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>>183937626
Charge speed is faster than regular running speed and if your pistoliers are shooting they're going to get tired quickly and grail knights will catch up to them, since grail knights don't get fatigued at all
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>>183921463
You can be hetero and still be a disgusting degenerate freak
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>>183937572
That's why empire is the best campaign though

Empire, Chaos and Dorfs
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>>183937728

thanks, but there's no light cav/heavy cav difference in base speed?
>>
>>183937120
Maybe SFO is fucking me around dunno. I can't even afford a full stack with belegar. I have 14 units including the ghosts. Skarsnik isn't a problem. The doomstack sent by mutinous gits over and over
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>>183896630
Do not lewd the goblin of schemes and tricks.
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>>183938091
Grail Knight are pretty quick for Heavy Cav, and their formation allow them to get a ridiculously high charge speed, at the price of their overhaul speed.

But things like Chaos knight, you could probably outrun them.

Also halas Pistolier are not really good.
>>
>no evil shall taint the lands bequeth unto me
>when the claryon call is sounded, I will ride out, and fight in the name of liege and lady
Bretonia trailer is still the best one out of all the TWW trailers
>>
watched the gameplay video
nice 4 minute battle
really like how FASTPACED battles are in Warhammer, feels REALLY good and REALLY drives down the strategy component of the Call of Dutyesque gameplay
>>
>>183938614
I don't like warhammer but you dumb, shogun 2 is GOAT and was as fast paced as it gets for combat
>>
>>183938856
wtf is shogun 2
>>
>>183938947

fantastic meme
>>
>>183939114
we're talking about Warhammer here
>>
>>183938856
Shogun 2 is goat now?
>>
>>183939219
>Complaining about battles being fast paced
>When the best total war had fast pace combat
Have you tried not being shit?
>>
New thread

>>183939439
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>>183939326
not him but Shogun 2 has always been seen favorably by /twg/.
Wouldn't call it goat though
>>
>>183939326
Last warning bud
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>>183918748
>replace Archeon with Kholek / sigvald
>once Archaon is back for recruitment use him to make a new stack instead
>new stack now has insane amount of growth (you did take the growth skills right & followers right?) and you can give it some awesome units
Not many people realise you can replace lords, including legendary ones, from their loadout screen
>>
>>183939407
Do you think this has anything to do with difficulty? It's about not being able to enjoy the battles as much because there's nothing to care for.
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>>183940018
No it's to do with this you silly spastic
>really like how FASTPACED battles are in Warhammer, feels REALLY good
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>>183936332

I might have to use this in a campaign.
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>>183941814
PnP?
>>
I'm bothered by Wulfric being "DU WERY BEST DUELIST IN THE GAME" because that was not what he was, neither in term of tabletop or in lore.

He his mostly a bragging opportunistic shitter, wich is why he got cursed in the first place, dueling with litteral who, because he know he would get absolutly trash by the REAL best warrior of the world. Fuck I think even Franz would bully him.

He his more supposed to act like run in your army, avoid the lord, and launch a duel to the mage, duel he can't refuse, bully him and then get away.
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