/wowsg/ - World of Warships General

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Cute ramp

Dead game edition

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Good night forever wowsg

>>183880992
>Raptor isn't banned

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ded?

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MOSHEVO!

>>183883070
kamikazi is not cute

>>183883147
>that pathetic round beta jawline

Lol

Why did /wowsg/ not ostracize Rapespammer?

>>183883846
Because he bought and sent gifts to people and that somehow means he's a good guy and not a severely autistic person who gets off to spamming /vg/ generals. The fact he bribes certain people to defend him whenever someone brought it up convinced everyone it's not worth it.

>>183883846
We don't? This is news to me.

>>183883846
He literally kept wowsg alive, we should get him to spam again because we apparently can't keep a thread up ourselves

>>183886253
Thread was just created at a bad time

>Babbie
>"Kurwa Polak Polak Kurwa" speak in chat
>dies to flooding 4 minutes in
>complains about friendly DDs even though he got smoked up twice
>blames DDs for losing
>bottom of the scoreboard
Fucking wastes of oxygen

>>183886865
Yeah well the last one archived at 600 posts

I hope Luger is happy.

>>183886253
>Keeping a thread active on EU Afternoon, NA morning
>on a fucking Wednesday
Relax m8, just post Yamato or something and bump it every half hour, or complain about Naziboo faggots masturbating over their subpar fantasy boats

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Posting q-test torpedo lesbians to keep the thread alive.

Where is everyone planning to put their Yamamoto commander btw?

>>183887313
Everyone's a NEET so what's the problem?

>meet someone with [HOTEL] Tag in battle
>wow it's a shitter
9/10 times

>>183886253
>He literally kept wowsg alive

Saging and dumping images to hit the image limit = "hee literally kept wowsg alive"

How about no?

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>Trident: Epicenter
>sitting in a perfect spot in New Orleans
>Z-23-kun suddenly appears from my right side
>at only 6-8km range
>doesn't even have his torps on
>he is getting focus fired by my team and me
>fumbles in panic and beaches against an island
>desperately pops a smoke
>[Press Radar Key To Rape]

>>183883275
Kamikaze is extremely cute, and anyone that says otherwise needs a brisk skullfucking

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>that once in a hundred games chance you get to heil hitler two bbs at once

Atlanta or Indianapolis?

AFT or Manual AA for North Carolina

>>183895081
I would take AFT simply because the enemy CVs are generally not stupid enough to send their planes too close and with AFT you might catch a plane or two at the edges of your AA with your larger area-of-denial.

Manual AA if you are serious about dropping those planes though.
Both would be nice.

>>183894631
Atlanta. She makes CV players cry.

t. CV player

>>183894631

Atlanta is fun but you always run the risk of being nuked off the face of the earth early on.

However when specced right she's great for shitting on anyone. Especially CVs, since you can get your detection range lower than your AA range.

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>Brit BBs are getting a paper tier VIII
>it's a straight upgrade of their actually built tier VII and better in every way
>it even gets defensive fire AA added to its already buffed AA

>>183895432
I run manual AA since I have the AA range module installed anyway. Works really nicely.

>>183895806
its literally going to be a worse NC.

>>183896049

Is the AA going to be that bad?

>>183895806
Isn't KGV the T8?

>>183896232

KGV is the TVII going by the last leak I read, and with Monarch being a fictional upgrade.

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>>183895806
WG is trying to get the [B]rit-[B]ongers ready for Gamescom, there's bound to be notable post release changes.

They are probably thinking "better make them too good than not good enough", to attract people into trying them.
Nothing would be more shameful than spending like a whole year producing a ship line only to have it fall flat in popularity from get-go.

>>183896346
Isn't the Monarch the one with the 15 inch guns the British decided not to put on the KGV because of their poor performance?

>>183896435
yes. North Carolina's 16 inch cannons will outperform Monarch in every way.

>>183896386

The problem is that it's pretty massive feature creep to keep adding on consumables. And considering how they literally nerfed some of the AA on the higher tier ships like Lion just to justify adding Defensive Fire AA, their balancing seems schizophrenic as fuck.

Not to mention WG seems the type of company that won't remove a feature once they've added it. So even if the Defensive Fire is pointless and no one takes it because the alternative is Radar, they'll keep trying to "encourage" people to take it through ever more retarded adjustments rather than just removing it and restoring the old AA.

I'd be happy to be proven wrong but I genuinely think WG is going to make a gimmicky mess of a line with further updates just doubling down on that.

Eh, I'm gonna grind the Bong BB line anyway. Seems more fun than the Nazi BBs at least.

>>183896049
The stealth won't be as good as Monarch. It will be retardedly good with a full build.

Also super fire chance HE cus "LOL WHO NEEDS AIMING".

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>>183897159
yeah 63% fire chance with HE shells makes you wonder why you should use AP anyway when you can be an armored cruiser

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>>183897159
>>183897378

>6 63% shells fired from a bow on Monarch every time your DCP runs out

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>>183898201

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>enemy Kaga tries to Midway our Ranger by throwing everything he has at them
>unknowingly enters my Atlanta's AA range

So BritBong BB are going to have tighter turning radius than any other nation, right?

>>183899240

OVERGROWN CRUISERS

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>>183899351
That's what I wanted. Bigger Cruisers.

@everyone @here

>>183899240
Dunno about turn radius, that might still be burgers at low tier and IJN at higher.

But rudder shift will be best for sure.

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>instead of ever adjusting Nikolai WG is just releasing a nerfed version for Tier V

>>183901490
Stay cheeki breeki customer!

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>>183901490

>>183901490
>can't nerf Nikolai because premiums can never be nerfed
>shit all over Blyskawica because blanket nerf
Just give Nikolai the retarded finite amount of damage control parties that the other Russian battleships seem to be getting. Give it 2 to start out with or something, so at most you can only put out 4 fires/floodings. There, balans.

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>>183904923
>Russian ship is safe
>Polish ships gets shit on
is of much realism

>>183896615
Pretty stupid, when the KGV was fitted with 14inch cannons because the shells were better and they performed more consistently, but we live in WG fantasy land, so tier is settled pretty much entirely by gun caliber

>>183905904
KGV was fitted with 14 inch guns becasue of the London treaty, not because the guns were good.

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I almost feel bad for seal clubbing, but this ship is just so nice.

Those poor CVs sending their squadrons at me as the planes come raining down like meteorites. Salvos that ruin enemy players' games in one splash. Range that is basically the entire map. Concealment that lets me shoot and disappear as I please.

And after all that I had lost 0% of my HP. Just brutal.

>>183907509
It could've had 15inch guns within the treaty, but 14inch guns allowed for more stability and reduced weight, so, considering it turned Bismarks conning tower (with 14inch armour) into swiss cheese, it probably wasn't a terrible decision.
Shell caliber isn't everything.

If RN BB are just overgrown cruisers, than Vodka Marine BB will be overgrown destroyers that go 60 knots have smoke and lack citadel?

>>183908297
>Those poor CVs sending their squadrons at me
what kind of black magic are you using, whenever I play her every CV avoids my entire half of the map like the plague

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>>183908723

>>183908930
Yes, that is what you are supposed to do as CVs, but I was blessed with potatoes.

Or maybe it was just a desperate last ditch attempt since I had destroyed their entire team on the right side of the map (almost alone) and there was nothing left to stop me from reaching their CVs sitting at their base.
The were CVs trapped on that small map like between hammer (me) and anvil (the rest of my remaining team).

>>183908297
>Best-in-tier AA defense, but with the same stock short range; in fact, Texas' AA firepower is higher than any other ship in the game up until Tier VIII. Enemy planes that come near Texas are highly unlikely to make it back to their flattop.
Jesus. Americans really hate enemy bombers.

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>>183910351
>Texas boasts more than three times the anti-aircraft firepower of New York

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>>183911194
>>183910351

>>183912403
Is this.. Japanese vs American screening?

>>183879220
I'm confused.
Why would you put all turrets in front of the ship and then not make them able to all shoot forward? Wouldn't that be a kind of design that could deny the tactical advantage of crossing the T?

>>183913471
The Izumo has the same setup, putting the third turret above the second means it is so tall it is almost certainly going to be incapacitated if engaged, not to mind the stability issues of having such a heavy structure so high up.

>>183913395
Are these… the thoughts of an illiterate?

>>183913471
Also, for reasons to do it, it puts all the magazines in the one place, away from the boiler and engine rooms, so heat from the boilers doesn't heat the magazines when at full throttle.
Turns out that isn't really a big deal though unless you do something retarded like IJN Fuso and put your magazines essentially on top of your boilers, guaranteeing you problems and probably forcing you to flood the magazines if your ship is trying to evade anything.

>>183913395
American screening in 1942 vs American screening in 1944.

>>183913926
>so heat from the boilers doesn't heat the magazines when at full throttle
nah it was soi they could put a thicker single piece of plate over the magazines anmd put a slightly less thick one over the boilers. bongs figured out that hits to the magazines kill you 100% of the time while hits to boilers don't do much other than dead you in the water you can still fight back

>>183914656
Ah, are the armour thicknesses actually that different?
makes sense though.

>>183914840
its like 14.5-14.7 inches vs 13-13.5inches. not much but enough to keep her weight under control yet have thicker armor than anything produced at the time

>>183913395
I think it's early war vs late war

>>183913471
>Crossing the T
>Shooting forwards
What did he mean by this?

>>183888089
spinning abukuma in the back will never not make me laugh

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>>183913926
The Fusos (and Ises) did not really have magazines right on top of the boiler rooms, that would not even fit.

But as you ca nsee here, they had the boilers and engines seperated by turret #4 (Q turret in RN parlance)
Before they were rebuilt, they had a second set of boilers further forward, between turrets #2 and #3.

However, what this DID mean was that they had high-pressure steam lines running under the magazines, which meant that the ammo and propellant was heated up quite a bit.
This, in turn, can lead to various bad things, like cracks in the propellant or shell fillings, accelerated decay of the propellant, or even corrosion inside the shells because the IJN had rather unstable explosives and propellants.

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>>183913395
>IJN
>Screening
Anon, pls

>>183910351
>Texas' AA firepower is higher than any other ship in the game up until Tier VIII
This isn't actually true. Texas has poor antiair range so the only possible way for it to have highest AA is if the enemy manually tells his planes to stay right above Texas and never leave.

In all other situations, the longer range superior antiair on everyone else ends up shooting more planes down before attack (more useful) and ends up killing more while they retreat (also more useful than texas)

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>>183922087
firepower =/= longest range

>>183924468
firepower =/= highest number at 2 feet away

A CV is not afraid of Texas at all, he has to fall asleep to go into the point-blank range where it kills any planes.

>>183924595
Hi anumati.

>>183925614
if it was anu he'd be complaining that any AA is too much

Do I get gold or silver if I finish weekly mission that awards tier 2 premium I already have?

>>183928369
gold usually

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>>183928221

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LIVE

>>183932514
The fog in this picture makes me want a pirate show based on a CV and their escapades

>>183933535
FUCK OFF MAKO

>>183933535
>The old citadel ribbon

Anyone else prefer it to the new one?

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>>183933048

>>183934967
No. Looks too similar to the fire ribbon.

Worth leveling french cruisers or should I just go grind the russian bias cruisers/hide in smoke like coward RN cruisers?

>>183935649
RN cruisers might get nerfed if the smoke nerf goes live.

Enjoy your Russian bias))))))))

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>>183935649
Always bet on Russia, anon.

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>>183933535
>CAsual
>Shows a CL

????

>>183935767
But the OP has an article that says smoke changes not happening?

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>>183894631
Just get gifted both lmao

>>183935129
Fuck I love fog

>>183913471
>Wouldn't that be a kind of design that could deny the tactical advantage of crossing the T?
In the magic land of Wargaming's games? Yes.

However in the real world crossing the T works basically the opposite of how it would work effectively on WoWS. In real life you want to have as much guns pointing at your targets while minimizing the capacity of your enemy to shoot back: this means that a fleet sailing in a line can't shoot forward (they risk hitting the ships in front of them), while a line of warships shooting full broadsides can shred an enemy to pieces.

WG uses the historical™ physical, or ideal (in case of napkin projects) appearance of the first XXth century's war machines to make an arcade game that has literally nothing to do with reality. They use historicity as a marketing strategy, but don't fall in the error of thinking the reality or their games have nothing to do with real life, because more often than not they're more or less opposite.

This is true for Gaijin as well.

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>>183938247

I've been away for a pair of weeks: can anyone please update me on the current state of RN BB line?

>>183938884
post WW1 broadside to broadside firing was not the doctrine of any noteworthy navy on earth.
You're not wrong about WG and Gaijin not creating games that resemble actual combat though.

>>183939616
All of their ships so far have the gimmick of behaving like the naval blunder of the 20th century.
Their Tier X is one 1mm caliber off from overmatching everything.

tl;dr - it's shit

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>>183939616
The tier X lost the mega main gun range but gained ridiculous stealth. They have radar at tier IX and X and DFAA at VIII, IX and X (in the same slot as radar for IX and X).

Nelson is no longer tech tree tier VII, that's KGV with historical guns. Monarch (A KGV with 3x3 380mm) is now VIII.

tl;dr they're still a mess of stupid gimmicks and it's likely WG have no idea of how to make them both fun and not game breaking.

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>>183883147
What's up, anon?
Need a hand?

>>183940745
>tl;dr they're still a mess of stupid gimmicks and it's likely WG have no idea of how to make them
So just like brits cruisers.
What's up with WG wanting to make every RN line a gimmicky mess? I am looking forward to CV line just to laugh.

>>183939616
If RN cruisers are oversized DD, than current RN BB are oversized cruisers, with extremely good stealth, 60% fire chance, no armor except on citadel. And lulheal+radar/def AA

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>>183941330
>CV with smoke, radar and only DBs

>>183933535
FUCK ME MAKO ~

>>183935767
>>183936357
Alright, russian bias it is. I guess there's nothing salvageable about french cruisers then?

>>183942691
Frogs are fragile, long range HE spammers with a gimmick speed boost.

You get the same thing with Bias.tm, but with radar instead of boost and better AA.

>>183942691
They're pretty damn fast in many cases. DDs will find it very hard to run away from MN CAs.

http://www.strawpoll.me/13544332

I feel like playing a CV is the surest way to make you hate everyone who plays this game.

>>183945356
playing CV is also the surest way to make everyone playing the game hate you

>>183924595
Didn't seem like it when the two CVs sent all of their squadrons at me simultaneously without managing to drop a single bomb or torpedo before falling out of the sky.
Then again I do have an extended range due to my captain skills.

What midtier DDs are worth keeping? And cruisers?
I've only kept Kuma so far.

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>players, testers and youtube press account owners keep complaining about the game being fucked up and not fun
>they keep complaining about the future changes too like they always do
>the constant attitude is "WHAT THE FUCK WG?"
>I'm just enjoying the game more than ever sans the occasional Belfast
Really enjoying my time on NC, New Orleans, Shinonome, F. Grosse, Cleveland, Texas, Nagato, Budyonny, Zuiho, Leander, Kongo, Duca d'Aosta, Farragut and Montana.

>>183947582
>DDs
Isokaze, Fubuki, Farragut, Gallant, Shinonome
>Cruisers
Cleveland, Myoko, Pensacola, Atlanta, Kuma, Indianapolis, Kirov, Budyonny, Leander, Duca, Graf Spee.

Not saying these are even close to all, but I would keep all of these and I have played them all.

>>183947582
>Mid-tier DDs
Very few, desu. Shiratsuyu is a good candidate if you're willing to play without smoke. Minekaze has seen better days, but still has her charms. USN DDs are in a bit of a trough at these tiers, but Farragut is solid. Haven't played VMF since the split, but Minsk looks quite similar to Leningrad aside from the torps, so she's a good bet. Haven't played the KM DDs.

>Mid-tier cruisers
There are a lot of good ones here, though MM can be cruel. Highlights include Furutaka, Budyonny and Fiji. It's a diverse lineup in this area, so you may find that some others have quirks which suit your taste.

>>183948165
>Zuiho
>Enjoying
Fuck off shill

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>>183899017
Reminds me of this day. Their Ranger just could not stop feeding me planes.

>>183949471
Admittedly I enjoyed Zuiho more before they removed the manual drops for tiers 4-5, but I am lazy at grinding the CV line since it's something I rarely play.
Maybe I'll drop her off the list once I run into enough air superiority Bogues.

>>183939616
tier 7 = KGV
tier 8 = KGV with bigger guns
tier 9 = KGV with even bigger guns
tier 10 = Warspite with biggest guns

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>have bad anxiety
>grind hard as fuck to get Yamato
>finally get to her
>start having anxiety attacks every time I fire up a match
>thought being top of the food chain would be fun
>feel like all eyes are on me to perform
>only played a few rounds but won them
>mediocre damage
>want to play ship I grinded hard to get, but don't want to keep getting anxiety attacks

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>Be Raptor
>Fly Taiho planes into a DM
>Complain about plane losses
What did he mean by this?

>>183951785
>Reminisce of fun time in Kongo and Fuso

>>183951785
Don't give up yet. Once you git gud with Yamato (which isn't too hard), you'll enjoy showing off.

"300k? Hold my beer."

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How much money do you guys think you've spent on this game?

>>183955819
How much did the basic Enterprise package cost?
60 bucks?

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>>183955819
Not to mention the doubloons I've purchased for myself and the few ships I've gifted to people.

>want to join the vg clan
>afraid everyone will hate me because I'm still sorta new and very inexperienced
life is suffering

>>183959048
I like you already.

>>183959048
I wanna join but Im bad. and everyone will bully me about my stats.

>>183959504
No one cares. Only Raptor will bring it up but I'm offering a free Graf Zep to perma ban him.

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I think I need to just stop playing this game. I want to play this game, I want to be good at this game, I enjoy it or at least I'd like to think so. But the truth of the matter is I feel like I'm just bad at the game. I've hit tier 10 and I'm still just a fucking piece of shit that can't do anything properly. I've tried to get better, I really have, but I just don't think I have what it takes to play this game well. I want to have fun but everyone here touts stats constantly and mine are shit. It doesn't matter how much fun I have, the truth is in the numbers, and the numbers say I'm bad.

>>183955819
like 50$ over 2 yrs mostly on prem time

>>183960320
no one will keep him away though, hes been through like 3 clans now and he still wont go away.

>there are people that think the Kutuzov is a bad ship

Give me a reason to play Gearing over Khabarovsk.

You can't.

Everyday it keeps getting worse. Rarely having any fun even when winning. Maybe it's time to move on.

>>183947305
post replay.
It's literally impossible for two carriers worth of planes to not get bombs and torps off even if they just autodrop them all at the same time with no manual control.

And if they only sent one squad in at a time, you're a fucktard if you brag about that. Every BB can deal with one solo squad with an antiair captain.

>>183965630
Gearing is a QTer ship.
I just want to have fun in her too WG pls don't kill her with smoke change ;_;

>>183961597
Just be yourself, bro. ;)

>>183965630
you won't develop inoperable cancer 5 years from now because of the negative karma acrued from playing the khabarovsk?

goodbye wowsg

>>183879220
Is Nelson now a premium ?

>>183970354
yes. though i don't know why they would make a shitty ship a premium ship. Usually they make good ships premiums.

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Please don't die, /wowsg/!

>>183951398
What about Nelson?

>>183976463
Premium. Since it's unique and not everyone wants to play HMS Izumo.

>>183966305
You feel it too don't you?

>>183976775
The comrades I've lost. The boats that I've lost... won't stop sinking.

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>>183960320
Make a deal with the devil, anon.

>>183976887
Its fine, we'll just sent a few boats out there to re-float them, good as new. Though that'l be 4500 Spanish gold.

>>183976550
>premium
What tier? What stats?
>HMS Izumo
Izumo has its X turret facing backwards, meaning it has the worst angles of all X turrets in the game. Also, Izumo is so big it can be spotted from the other side of the map. Nelson has all the guns facing forward, meaning it can shoot all nine guns at extremely shallow angles, and it is much more compact than WG's napkin project, thus less spottable. I'd like to play a Nelson class battleship, also because nothing can be as bad as the Izumo.

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Old memes, coming through.

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>>183980312

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>>183980525

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What should I expect from Hipper?

>>183980764
Prinz clone.

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>>183980610

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>>183981427
Whats a supertest librarian?

>>183982103
They have a library of scanned (probably pirated) history books, that they 'lend' to supertesters and a few other people (as in, you're supposed to delete it from your PC after you're done reading it). I had access but lost the login info.

>>183982270
Is your job to find potential ships?

So are carriers in this game fixed yet?

I tried it years ago and stopped after a few hours because of carriers.

>>183982417
I was given access to the library because I had a book to contribute & because I was a friend of this bloke.
About the picture, I was leaking without ever having signed their NDA, so their panties were in a colossal bunch because they had no grounds to do anything about it.

>>183955819
Somewhere around €300, primarily on various ship packages.

>>183955819
Not a dime, and I never will until gold is unified.

>>183983742
Doubt. Economies are too different.

>>183983778
>Doubt. Economies are too different.
"We are working on further unification, but it’s too soon to reveal any details"
That's their official stance on the subject, on their FAQ & Customer Service section.
So, if it is too soon for unified gold, it is too soon for me to spend my dollarydoos.

About the Dunkirk collectibles; is there any point in keeping the dupes around or is the only point of them for exchanging for ones you don't have?

For example, if I have 13/16 of the collection and 15 dupes, is there any reason at all not to use the dupes to make it 16/16?

Any Kiwi or Aus-fags out there who can confirm if the connection on the NA server is any good?

Want to give the game a try but don't really want to be stuck on a fucking Asian server playing with cyber cafe pinoys.

My Aus friend plays with a toaster and gets about 100 to 150ish ping which he doesn't seem to mind.

Want a referral code? The rewards are pretty good for using one and getting to Tier 6 ships. I'm also up for doing divisions if you like, Britfag here the Americans are never on at my time.

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So, when we getting Gangut?

I saw people covering her on Youtube, but when she will be on sale?

>>183986361
I don't know about other servers, but on RU you can get it for free after completing the missions.

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>>183986361

I was fighting a graf spee in one of my own, he's firing HE so I figure I've got it easy with my AP. He causes a fire and I repair it as he's one volley away from dead. He gets one last shot off before I kill him.

He hits me with 3 shells and every single one caused a fire.

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I mean look at this shit! That's a 0.301% chance

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>>183987058

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>when you're pretty much held together by hope

>the only ships that are viable for secondaries are the Tirpitz and the Bismarck

I can't enjoy the other BB lines anymore. Secondaries are just too much fun

>>183988376
Why not Gneis?

Nagato can manage in a pinch, those AP secondaries really chew up DDs

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>>183984838

>>183984838
Your dupes turn into a small amount of cash once you complete the collection.

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>>183988095
Umidoori!!!

>>183988542
I want secondary USN BBs

>>183982732
Seeker?

Always enjoyed watching STs and mods getting buttfrustrated at your leaks.

>>183985696
You will be playing with SEApes on NA if you live in Australia because 1/3 of the population in that server are Chinks.

>>183984838
Save your dupes until the end, then convert them. There's still a chance you will get the ones you need in the remaining boxes.

>someone complains about the team being bad
>check his stats
>38% WR

HMMMMMMMMMMM

>>183989257
Only reason I wasn't doing that by default is because I'm waiting on getting the British captain.

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>>183980312
That's pretty funny, NeoRussia also did tests in the training room for several hours every day in 2015. He's been doing this for two whole years now, that's fucking dedication. Call him autistic if you want, it's true, but this is dedication. And he's still terrible at the game.

>>183956914
I'm sorry

>>183959504
It's the other way around. The shitters and autists with inflated W/R will bully the super unicums for not wanting to play with them.

>>183989449
The the Foxtrot guy also still active?

>>183989664
Most CBTfags quit a long time ago

>>183989664
https://na.warships.today/player/1002495814/47Foxtrot

He still plays and he's actually kind of good now.

Guess all that shitposting finally encouraged him to git gud.

>>183989702
I still see alpha/beta tester flags almost every day on NA

>Iowa has 10x2 127mm at 6 RPM or 120 total RPM
>Henry IV has 6x2 127mm at 15 RPM or 180 total RPM
>50% more RPM with same gun caliber on a fucking cruiser.
How can burgers even compete?

>>183990705
I fucked up :_:

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>>183989702
I'm a CBT fag and I'm still here~

Plenty of guys I played with back then are still here too.

>>183990854
You might be a CBTfag, Arlios. But I don't see it on your current account. Why did you reroll?

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>>183990938
>Implying I'm him

>>183989115
>Always enjoyed watching STs and mods getting buttfrustrated at your leaks.
Alas, they finally fixed the problem by moving supertest client to WGC, which requires authentication.

Bought the one 67% off Dunkirk container that's available in the shop and got 2x 7 of the dragon flags, is it normal to get 14 of them in a purchased crate? Because that might make them almost worth buying at the "normal" price.

>>183989702
CATfag here, I still play.

>Their team gets a Kaga
>My team gets a Ranger
Not doing that again, next time I'll just leave the match.

I wanted to give this game a spin because I liked WoT but..... this game does not want to fucking download, it just keeps fucking up and getting errors before it ever downloads! Can WG not even program a fucking launcher/downloader?

>>183989021
Montana unironically has fantastic secondaries. If you don't count the shorter range, it has a really high fire chance and pretty damn accurate even with just BFT and AFT.

>>183996817
It's nothing but a torrent, but I have not had any trouble with the launcher since the alpha.

And back then they had the .torrent file on the forums or even the TS so you could use a different client, no idea if you can still download the game that way.

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Could anyone give me some advice on playing the Yamato? I had some great matches in her but recently I've had a losing streak, so I'd like to get some advice on the topic from people who know what they're doing.

>>183998664
double click CA and see them die

>>183996817
If you're not using the wargaming game center, change the launcher_transport setting in the WoWsLauncher.cfg file to 2. That'll turn off torrents.

>>183998664
>I've had a losing streak, so I'd like to get some advice on the topic from people who know what they're doing.
Stop playing. Seriously. It's just a cluster of bad RNG, it happens from time to time, however if you force yourself and keep playing you'll soon start playing on a tilt. It's just better to stop playing and doing something else. Come back when you'd really like to play ships.

>>184000535
>It's just a cluster of bad RNG
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gambler%27s_fallacy#Reverse_fallacy

>EU has Mosh
>SEA has Umidoori

What do NA and RU have?

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>>183988095

>>184003924
Why are you obsessed with names, 9mm1n? Why are you especially obsessed with those two? Is it the lack of social skills you're trying to compensate?

>>184003924
Hotel and Lewis

>>184004165
Hotel_a_QT? The same Khanate from SEA? What's so cute about him? He's quite literally the opposite of "cute".
>never plays with /wowsg/
>thinks he's above /wowsg/
>comes up with terrible excuses to avoid playing with /wowsg/
>never says anything interesting, always repeats the general consensus of something
>severely autistic
>avoided playing with anyone from SEA (rightfully so)
>switched over to NA to permanently play with two random players he's never met or talked to before to the point his sleeping schedule got changed

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>>183998664
>People who know what they're doing

Probably not a good idea to ask here then, anon.

Mr. Hello, Hello is probably a better bet:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNo1aPvndqc

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>>183998664
https://youtu.be/tggHsZfcbbc

Here's a Yamato guide.

>>184005715
>>183998664
Do not listen to this poster.

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How do I get Hood on EU

>>183989021

Bit late, but Warspite has really good secondaries.

>>184006925
You can't buy it ingame?

>>184005715
>Yamato
>IFHE
This is so unbelievably stupid I feel personally offended.

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If I've had an account for 3+ months and have a Kongo already, can I still benefit from a referral code?

>>184007675

Nah, it doesn't show up on the in game tech tree for some reason.

>>184007845
What would you need it for ? You have Kongo, your life should already be complete.

>>184007994
Haven't played in a while and could use the credits/flags/xp. What are the free ships?

>>184008239
Diana and Texas

>>184008385
I want the Texas, am I still eligible? US East server.

>>184005846
>>184007842
He's taking the piss out of Notser during the whole 'IFHE on everything' debacle.

Pretty clear it's not meant as a serious guide.

>>183998664
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tggHsZfcbbc

>>184009405
You can stop shilling your video now Raptor. Thanks.

>Hotel is mad at Raptor for poking fun at his autism boat

Jesus Christ

>>184009405
>linking the same video twice
>being this desperate

>>184010791
but he's making fun of notser, not the ship

>>184010890
>expecting hotel to know about that

wew

>>184010940

Someone tell Abrach to put his boytoy in line, this is embarassing.

This is raptor's mother, please watch my son's video on this boat game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KTTrR-Od1TA

Is it just me or is the grind a lot harder than it was before?

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>coub.com/view/w9xcq
!!!!!

>>184004431
>never plays with /wowsg/
>thinks he's above /wowsg/
>comes up with terrible excuses to avoid playing with /wowsg/
>switched over to NA to permanently play with two random players he's never met or talked to before to the point his sleeping schedule got changed

Extremely true, easily one of the worst /wowsg/ers but any measure


and really
>>>>thinks he's above /wowsg/

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>realize you've been aiming just a bit too high this whole time

All these fucking citadels, jesus.

>>184014464
>not a CA or BB
don't care

>>184007845
is this you irl?
please be in yokosuka

>>184014464
Why can't we get models this good in WoWs?

>>184007845
you have to have only played a few games or have not played on that account for at least 3 months to get the free stuff

how do I farm free xp when my highest tier ship is T5 and I'm too poor to buy premium? just win and do well + signals?
god bless

>>184014697
>>>>>thinks he's above /wowsg/
but in fact, he IS above /wowsg/

all the others are either worse or sellouts who don't play with /wowsg/s anyway

>>184019728
Probably because it takes way too much effort.
I remember a dev from WT saying that making a model can sometimes take up to even 3 months.

That, and the engine would probably shit itself. Big World or whatever the engine was called is really outdated.

>>184008924
You've probably played too many games. If you're only on T5 and you haven't spent any money or won anything special it may be worth it to re-roll.

Can someone please give some advice as to how to do Dunkirk mission?

>>184020928
Play with /wowsg/

so looking at the test server looks like nelson was completely removed from the tree. it's not even listed as a premium. and all the ships now have their final xp between layout so this is now probably final.

conq now has her gun choices, but tbqh with monarch looking like such ahistoprical trash and KGV looking to be really bad at tier7 I think I'm done with the RN BB line.

So /wowsg/ whats the nect ship line you guys want released?

>>184021097
IJN CLs or RN DDs.
Anything that isnt shitaly, Italians are the most annoying group in this game with their constant demands for their irrelevant navy.

>>184021059
But how do I not suck myself? I don't want to just be carried. Well not as much carried as usually

>>184020928
Play Anthony. Go half speed or whatever keeps you right in the middle of the convoy. Use defensive AA whenever a mass of planes comes within 2km. Learn to lead on the schnellbuttes. Pray the rest of your team aren't fucking retards that sail right into the mines. Easy victory.

>>184022218
Thanks
>tfw I actually wanted to play Cyclone as it is cuter.
;_;
Oh well. Any skills I should grab for commander?

>>184020235
>3 months
It would take them a year at this speed to make cutest cruiser (Atago) model.

I hope you all realize the Dunkirk ships are a sign of what's to come.

RN DDs will have no smoke, and instead will get mandatory Defensive Fire. And because one gimmick is never enough with RN ships, the T9 and 10 will probably also have radar on top of it.

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>>184021097
>elson was completely removed from the tree. it's not even listed as a premium
It's because WG was hellbent on making it another pre-buff Iowa/NC citadel and literally everyone and their grandmother called them out on their shit.

>>184022660
I imagine it's one of the reasons they are reluctant to go bigger than CCs. That, and gameplay conventions.

>>184023084
And French DD will be just shit?

>>184023190
Any DD line outside of the Russian one is supposed to be shit, lad. Why do you think Akizuki then Shiratsuyu were nerfed into oblivion ? Not fun allowed.

>>184021413
>RN DDs
>wanting yet another DOA line

At this point I'm more interested in french anything. The cruisers are actually kind of fun so I have high hopes that the BB/DD lines will not be riddled with mandatory gimmicks unlike the RN.

>>184021413
mad war loser lmao

>>184022441
Cyclone has better AA and lacking Def AA isn't a problem if you're not a shitter who can't evade bombers.

>>184023724
It has worse turning, 1/2 DPM, worse concealment, worse torps, armor etc.

>>184023724
It's an escort mission, dipshit. The planes come in waves that are easily spaced to let your defensive AA come off cooldown. It doesn't matter if you can dodge all the planes in the world, the convoy you're escorting will pick up their torps like they're pills in pac man.

>>184021413
No navy was irrelevant as Marine Nationale.

>>184022441
The only skill you need is AFT. BFT also has some utility. If you have any RN/MN prems though, skill the appropriate captain for those ships instead and farm elite XP.

>>184023262
>Why do you think Akizuki then Shiratsuyu were nerfed into oblivion ?
>Both ~53% WR
How powerful should they be?

>>184024908
>Both ~53% WR
>meanwhile Khaba sits at 60% WR
Also, maybe nerfing them was indeed in order, but probably not completely driving them into the ground like WG did, especially for poor Shiratsuyu. Akizuki is still enjoyable, but nowhere near as good as she used to.

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>the absolute state of the kolberg

>>184025102
>>meanwhile Khaba sits at 60% WR
Someone has to be at the top of the food chain. I don't see a problem.

>>184025102
The same dataset as I consulted for the IJN DDs shows Khaba at 54%. Too high, obviously, but not completely absurd.

>>184025470
Is the german cruiser line just 9 ships of suffering with Hindy as the reward at the end.

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>>184025885
>I don't see a problem

>>184026325
honestly I have no idea, the Kolberg is where I am on the german cruiser line
the 105s make me wanna neck myself

>>184021413
Well why wouldn't you put Italy when they had a navy of their own? As irrelevant as it was, it was more of one than a Dutch or Polish navy, and the poles even got a ship first.

>>184026325
after the shitty low tier ships they're fine
Nurnburg is kind of suffering thanks to the MM but she's not too bad

>>184026325
Roon is great and I enjoyed Hipper quite a lot too.

Even Yorck is a half decent max range HE spammer.

le DD torpedo face

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>>184027873

Almost to the Pensacola.
Oh boy.

>>184026325
tiers 2 - 4 are low tier shit, who cares
t5 and t6 are logn range ships, very fragile but the guns are good
t7 is a decent HE spammer, can actually take a few hits with proper angling
t8 is all around sub-par
t9 is actually good, but requires you to essentially invert you turns because it has the guns in teh back
t10 is also strong, and probably the most aggressive of the t10 cruisers

>>184029676
t9 and t10 are as usual for all things german right now the strongest shit at tier tbqh

>>184029676
The only thing I would add to this is that the T6 is weaker at its tier than the T5.

>>184027902
I wish i could have a shimakaze gf

>>184030385
That would be true for pre-buff Nurnberg; Konigsberg is just too long and poorly armoured to be considered more resielient, especially considering she also has to face 16 inch guns.

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>>184031832
>Wanting an autistic girlfriend who dresses like a slut

>>184032339
yea but my dick would look huge

>>184031832
girlfriend (male)

>>184032426
>not already having a huge dick
embarrassment.

>>184029928
but the stas say something else
so you're actually talking about the 'alternative' strongest ships, right?

>>184032042
*Nürnberg
*Königsberg
But their armour is essentially the same? They both encounter 410 mm guns too.

>>184032426
Yeah you'd have a very cute point of direct comparison right next to it.

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>>184032440

>>184032516
no the stats currently show z52 out xping khaba indicating it's so much better on caps it's retarded.

roon was already the best t9 cruiser it's been so for a lonmg time now the massive buff it just got just calcified that

hinden is currently outdamaging moskva by alot

GK and all german battleships are dominant at their tiers inb4 muh accuracy

>>184032541
>But their armour is essentially the same?
Konigsberg get overmatched by 203mm guns

>>184020026
Hotel will never carry you, HP Lovesauce.

>>184024073
As if torps matter in the gamemode.

>>184024348
That's why smoke exists so the convoy doesn't get bombed and the planes go after you. Cyclones shred planes much faster than Anthony can.

>>184032775
>massive buff
?

>>184034480
WG changed HE penetration from 1/6 to 1/4 of caliber (basically a free IFHE) . So now Hipper+ pen everything with HE including Khaba/Moskva 50mm lulz plate.
Combine that with Hind DPM and you have on your hands very powerful combination

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>>184019846
3 months, maybe. Haven't played in a while. How do I check if i'm eligible?
>>184019632
No, sadly.
>>184020270
But I don't want to go through jap battleships again.

>>184036186
https://playtogether.worldofwarships.com/invite/9gvLOQE

>>184035005
>Free IFHE
Yep and anyone who takes IFHE on any other CA is derided as an idiot, so it's by no means a 'huge buff'.

>>184036186
>How do I check if i'm eligible?
Wait for someone to post a referral link and follow it.

>>184035005
It's not hipper+, it's all german cruisers that got the divide by 4.

The 5+6 ignore 32mm noses and decks completely (37.5mm pen) which is everything in game that matchmaking can put them against.
The bismarck nose doesn't stop konigsberg and neither ever sees a freddy.

The tier 7 then has 52.5mm penetration, so no ship won't get HE-spammed.

The only krieg cruiser not worth touching is hipster at 8, which has no redeeming qualities whatsoever. It does the worst damage with bad number of guns that do bad damage per minute each and poor fire-starting and poor range and poor armor and poor maneuverability and poor concealment and poor speed. The torpedoes are also crap with 6k range, when the hipper has no capability to survive to suicide-charge anything with torpedoes and should have 8-10km torps like kutuzov/japanese.

Save up your free xp and skip hipper entirely, don't waste any time moving a captain to that trash.

>>184037246
it's a huge buff, you fucking stupid imbecile.

The only reason ANY other cruiser ever skips IFHE is because they don't want to lose 3% fire chance and they don't want to lose 4 captain points.

Guess what? Germans pay 0 captain points and lose 0% fire chance to get IFHE. So you're a fucking moron, go back to flipping hamburgers.

>>184037731
>Stuff KM CAs can pen as a result of the buff
Khaba's armour
USN BB deck
wow it's almost nothing

>>184037161
>>184037246
Well, it seems like it worked.

>>184037553
Hipper has like 17.7km range how is that "poor"

>>184037731
German fire chance is inherently bad, and German HE damage is low.

Also, IFHE on 203mm guns is pretty much shit on a stick, see
>>184038279

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>7 GB update patch

New player here, can someone give me quick rundown on the traits of each country's BB lines?

I know japs are fast and germans and americans aren't, but that's it.

>>184041590
Germans get great secondaries as their sort of "gimmick"
Brits will have really high fire chance as theirs.
Big thing with the Japanese line is there are a lot of amazing Battlecruisers (Kongo and Amagi) that can go upwards of 30 knots with amazing guns but poor armour, so positioning and angling is a big deal.

Germans with their secondaries are built for close range brawling.

Americans I don't really play, but generally it's good guns good armour and shit speeds at low and mid tiers, at higher tiers they get a little faster too, but they are sort of the most like what you would expect from a battlship.

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OFFER STILL STANDS

FREE GRAF ZEPPELIN IF YOU BEAT ANUMATI

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>>184042859

>>184042294
Hmm, wish I had went germans then.

>>184043184
I much prefer Japs, you try getting within 10km of an Amagi in a Bismark and you're gonna have a bad time.

Kongo is also amazing fun, I don't much like the Fuso but lots of people enjoy that too.

Man, why do I akways get intimidated by North Carolinas

>>184038279
>all german battleship deck armor
>yamato deck armor
ez stay mad wehraboo

>>184043452
So I should be using my Kongo to kite? I just remember the ship before it I couldn't hit anything if I tried to maintain distance.

>>184043540
Wouldn't getting a pen there require hitting at almost perpendicular angles?

>>184043651
Just stay out of secondary range of Germans, what I do is I go bow on while their shells come in, then turn and broadside, and turn back to bow on, you can zig zag like this pretty decently in the Kongo.

You wont hit a cruiser at range, but you'll hit battleships, especially if they dont WASD

>>184041590
>usn has gud aa ok guns little else
>ijn good guns meh armor
>german ok guns good aa, great armor impossible to citadel, hydro, good he, ok accuracy

>>184043669
HE ignores angles so no

>>184043814
WASD? You mean move and dodge fire? What is the usual secondary range?
>>184043846
That makes it sound like germans are the best.

>>184032728
10/10 would fug in boipussy

>>184037246
>>184037731
You're both wrong. The reason CAs didn't take IFHE is because on 200-220mm guns the only change it gives them practically is that they can pen the 38mm decks on high tier USN BBs, it wasn't worth giving up 4 points and fire chance to do very situational damage.
The KM 1/4 change was far better than IFHE because it didn't cost anything and meant they could now pen that 38mm as well as now 50mm armor, which is far more common at higher tiers.

>wargaming charges you to change your name
Come on I made this name like 7 years ago.

>>184044662
Between about 4-8km, below the Bismarck. Kiting doesn't mean you have to be at max range or anything, you just don't want to let them get right on top of you, as long as you stay outside of their secondary range and keep angled against their shells, you just start to win the damage war against them.